The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 560 - Rodney King and the LA Riots

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Rodney King and the Los Angeles Riots.  Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch

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had it with the we make sometimes we make gravy and I'm not I just said sometimes I don't even mean to. But maybe what we should be doing is like giving a good toss to it you know like so like what do you and sometimes we make gravy on accident and I'll go well that's the dollop for you and then we go to the intro something like that. And called it quote his jam patch. Jam patch? I'm the fucking hippo guy. Okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it far fine? And this is not going to come to tiggly pod. Okay. Now hit him with the puppy. You both present sick arguments. Actually part. No, I see done my friend. So we just got away and we're back. Oh okay. Well that's the dollop for

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stuff. We do Q&As. We do lots of stuff. It's pretty cheap. So you can join that. Is there anything else to say? We can't make the announcement for the other thing yet. I don't think. No I don't really have anything to say. I just I love everybody and I've got more. Congrats to Elon Musk for his triumphs. Yeah it's awesome. It's pretty easy to lose half a trillion dollars when you think about it. Dave my special England weed and the rest is available for another week on moment. You can go to moment.co slash Gareth Reynolds. It is a stand-up special. So go check it out. A lot of people are saying. And my rebuttal

is up on YouTube. I'm not allowing you rebuttal. That's not a thing we're gonna do. I'm not it's not how it works. It's not like I'm giving the state of the union and then we cut to you to do like a quick sort of like here's my problems with some of the stuff. I have an hour rebuttal of Gareth special. I don't want that to exist. Especially while mine's like going especially like one week into mine. I'm not into you being like and check out like what an amazing move that would be. I do rebuttal hours. Every time the time I went on Marin the podcast and I you know we talked about my dad a lot and then my dad listened to it and sent

Mark an email demanding that he be allowed to have a rebuttal. Oh my god that's like when Eminem's mom released an album. Oh my god. Oh my god that's hilarious. Well sounds like we're ready to dollop intro. April 2nd. No no no not done yet Dave. I also I what the hell was it. Oh yeah. I will be in Hartford Connecticut at the funny bone on January 30th and at West Nyack Levity Live in New York on January 31st. Go to Gareth Reynolds.com for ticket information. So watch my special and then get ready to see some crap. Yeah it's half baked bullshit. April 2nd. I'm talking about this special Dave 1965. That's part of my rebuttal. It's bad. Rodney

Glenn King was born in Sacramento. No. Oh my god. Oh gosh. Oh good Lord. This is going to be this is a follow up to our Olympic episode to our what the Olympic episode right Olympic episode led into how the cops changed during the Olympics and this is our boy. I knew this one. This is this is on my like list of 10 I know are coming. So he was born in Sacramento California soon after his family moved to Altadena which is right near me. Where his parents it's about me where his parents worked as house cleaners and medical custodians. OK. Dad was an alcoholic who beat his kids with an extension cord. Come on do some funny

stuff. Yeah. And that sounds like we're ready to Tala. Rodney later wrote quote the first person I ever hated was my father. Oh my god. Me and Rodney King. We are his dad right there in the letter. Dad brought Rodney and his brother to work to wash and buffer floors at the Pasadena Medical Center from 7 p.m. to 2 a.m. most nights. Wow. Jesus Christ. That's just you know we have kids. It's 1970 something. So why not put him to work as if it's the 1800s. Yeah. Well why else have kids if you're not going to have them buffer floors at a medical center. Are they are they working or they're just like

hanging. Well he's making them work. OK. Interesting. Sorry. I was doing those just in the camera but that's right. It's what we call illegal until now. For some reason Rodney started to do poorly in school. What do you think it was lack of motivation. I think it was working till 2 a.m. every night. Interesting. I'd love for people to email some other theories. He was getting maybe an hour of sleep every night. Holy shit. Is that good. It's bad to a cult. Bad. Bad. So teachers assumed he had a learning disability and they put him in special education classes because he's tired. He like gets a good night because he's

working at night. Now he said we've really rehabilitated him. He's like no I slept. My dad goes sick last night. Work. So this led to him being bullied. It also meant he could not play for the baseball team. The only part of school he really enjoyed. Man when there's a comedic window on this I am going to jump through it like I got. You've missed so many. I don't know if there's a lot of plays left on the field so far. So far this has just been just a treasure trove of hilarity. So he started drinking and smoking weed at 11 years old. Which I did too. I mean. Well I remember he was on celebrity rehab. He was on that show.

Oh was he. Yeah. Yeah. In high school a teacher went to bat firm and got got the school to let him on the baseball team. Then that teacher molested him. Do some do some comedy stuff kid. You're the improv guy. I know I just I am. No I'm trying to. There's something. There's something. I had I had a moment where I thought the teacher went to bat for him. Well let me help. Let me help. He was also molested by a cousin. As a senior Rodney was working a lot. Okay. This is senior Rodney was working a lot as a valet. A tree chairman of McDonald's Cook. He was also drinking a lot. Drop that at school then. Married his girlfriend.

A few months later he was arrested for reckless driving and then beating his wife. Okay. So he pled no contest and he got probation. You know no contest is a weird option. What's the other what's what's the other option. I'd like a contest and then you have to sort of compete with with the judge or the prosecution. I've always felt that kind of funny to think of it like that. Like how do you plead guilty not guilty. No contest. I'd like a contest. I'd like to hula hoop the judge. I'd like to have a hula hoop competition contest against the judge. All right Dave. This chair is driving me crazy. It's squeaking like a

squeaker. So he gets at 24 he gets into an argument with a shopkeeper in a convenience store in Monterey Park. Okay. Now there were language differences. Sure. The guy said Rodney tried to rob him and threatened to beat him up and Rodney Rodney says he was drunk and hungry and just trying to buy gum and food stamps with food stamps. Well I mean everybody has their thing. Sure. It's not gonna that's that's the opposite. Have you tried it. Yeah. I've been hungry and I've had gum and I'm like oh my god my stomach's now like. All right. Food's coming. Have you tried to eat the gum. I used to swallow gum. Yep. What. Yeah. Yeah. I used

to swallow gum all the time with teacher. I remember I had a teacher who was like bro what are you doing. I was like that doesn't matter. And he's like nah it's like terrible for you. I was like buddy I'm 14. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just throw it out. You know sometimes you're like garbage is all the way over yonder. You're like my tummy's kind of a garbage can that the Lord put inside me. I was tossing in that. You can eat a lot of stuff and treat it like trash. So they get into an argument and the shopkeeper hit Rodney first with a tire iron. Jesus Christ. And Rodney threw pies at him. What kind of

rebuttal. That's terrible. That is when you're not ready for the fight. I'll bet it was some of the well I mean it's kind of like vaudevillian but I would I would imagine it's those little cherry apple blueberry pies. Yeah I would think so. But it'd be amazing. It'd be amazing if there was just a shelf of lemon meringue. I mean that's what I mean. It's just like a chaplain movie where it's just like well I've got a bunch of pumpkin pies done and a few cherries. The tire iron kind of throws some of the like comedic timing off. Yeah I mean that's less funny. Yeah. So Rodney runs away. I'm ready to move on. Rodney he runs away

and ten days later the cops come to his house and Rodney told them he's like yeah I'm guilty of stealing and he said later he was just he was just really embarrassed the cops were at his home and he just wanted them to go away so he said that. So his lawyer is not happy that he pleaded to a crime that he didn't really commit like it was clearly a difference of language and then you know whatever was going on there. So he gets a year in jail. Well okay. He gets out he gets a new job. He celebrates. Oh boy. By drinking a 40. Okay. And getting behind the wheel. Okay. And he's driving with two friends. Police try to pull him over

and he takes off. He started speeding through LA streets doing about 65 miles an hour which is pretty standard in LA. Yeah. I remember when I moved here I was like so you just like to like fly down these streets. Yeah there's no back in the back in the day they used to really not like like now there's like more speed traps like I've gotten a speeding ticket you know but it's like back in the day there were never cops like just straight up like that just was more of like other parts of the country thing. Yeah. So when he stops his car he gets out shortly after midnight on March 3rd 1991 at Lakeview Terrace again right

near me just right over the hill. I don't think we should write the Rodney King story about you. That's okay. It's about me. He's drunk. He's had 140. There's no drugs. Yeah he may have had more. He had a 40 with him. Okay. There's no drugs in his system. He's unarmed. There's no weapon in the car. CHP officer Melanie Singer approaches. She has her gun out. Sure. And she tells him to get on the ground. Why wouldn't you have your gun out? A guy. A guy was speeding. Yeah. He gets on his hands and knees and she takes his I.D. and she's about to put him in handcuffs. What another cop Sergeant Stacy Coon tells her to back up. Did she have her gun

trained on the other cop? Back up. Get back. You back up. Then a few cops swarm Rodney. One kicked him in the head and another slammed a baton into his lower leg. Yanni Rodney yelled to singer quote they don't have to do this tell them they don't have to do this which is not something cops care about. Yeah. The whole time they're probably shouting stop resisting. Or just not anything. Yeah. George Holliday a 33 year old rescue router manager so he does he does toilets. Yeah. So toilet drains. We call them toilet men in the business. Yep. He lived across the street and he had just bought his first camcorder and he sees

the police helicopter spotlight shining down on Rodney's white Hyundai and it's surrounded by half a dozen police cars. So he starts filming. Two cops. Sorry. Two cops beat Rodney 56 times in 81 seconds with their two pound 24 inch solid aluminum mononuck PR 24 batons. They used what are called power strokes which is when you use all the force you can muster and wield the baton like a baseball bat. Any other story to have a joke for that but I thought you're better than this. Yeah. The batons have a diamond shape groove in them that cuts the skin with every blow. Which seems like why. I know. So I. OK. So you're so you're so

you're it's like we have it's like you're all designed by an evil Q. Right. You like you're you're giving police. Why. Batons that are meant to cut. Yeah. Why not. Like what are you going for. Draining them. Well. Yeah. I mean you're trying to make them bleed. Yeah. But the goal should not be the goal. I mean I'm not. No. I'm not lobbying on half a half of aluminum bats. But the goal is to incapacitate not to. Supposedly. Yeah. But if you have diamonds then it's not to incapacitate it's to wound. They actually are. They have chambers and bullets inside of them. They're very similar to guns. Our new our new baton

has spikes. Yeah. The video showed Rodney on his hands and knees struggling twice impaled from wires with a Taser gun rising and falling while the officers beat him about the head neck back kidneys ankles feet legs. The electrification for the Taser was made worse because his clothes and body were soaked with his blood. So it causes it so much so that he thought he had pissed his pants. That's how much bleeding he was doing. A third cop stopped stomped Rodney and about 10 cops watched with a few of Georgia's neighbors. 23 LAPD cops responded. Now it's just so it. I mean again it's

like obvious and it's not any better but it's like you know it's just absurd the amount that respond to shit. Oh my god. So we had a high speed chase and right a block and a half away about a year or so ago. And then walk down there. Just a look. There's about 60 to 70 cops standing around and they do so for about an hour. And it's like imagine any other job. Yeah. Yeah. And we're getting and we're getting more hang out more. Yeah. It's not like we're going like that's pretty stupid. We're like that's not enough standing around cops. So 23 cops four cops were directly involved in the use of force. Two were above and

helicopter 10 on the ground watching some portion of beating seven. Check came and checked out the scene and then drove away four uniform cops from two other law enforcement agencies. The Highway Patrol and the L.A. Unified School District were also there for no purpose. Tell me. Yeah. Tell me why the school cops are there. Yeah. I mean yeah. Well they're there because like man it'd be great to get to your status someday. I can't beat the kids at school. Yeah. It's it's I mean I mean just even thinking back on the tape of it it's like I mean it you know it is obviously absurd. Yeah. So Rodney DeWittie Dunson's childhood

he took the beating until he blacked out and then an ambulance takes him to the hospital. They broke his cheekbone his ankle a limb bones at the base of his skull damaged facial nerves knocked fillings out of his teeth. He had over 50 broken bones including a fractured leg. God damn. I mean the pictures post-beating are obviously like they're absolutely insane. I mean he like. So the next morning Rodney's brother Paul goes to the police station and asks about the procedure to make a complaint. Like we're not really doing those honestly. What do you flag it. I guess. Yeah. What's your what's your deal. We followed procedure.

It's not like there's any evidence of what we did. No. No. I mean look we followed all protocols. No problem. Your brother drank and drove so we can do whatever the fuck we want. There was 150 of us. He's broken. Yeah. No. We are pretty good at our jobs. That's not what. I got to take this job is. Okay. There's nothing. Uh-huh. There's there was no ring. I am aware you're a banana but yeah I'm just waiting for this dude to get out of here. Just give me shit. Don't understand how we operate. Still looking at me. Idiot. Hold on. I'm gonna pretend like kids to go. Hey this is my superior my supervising officer. You need to get

out of here. What. Yeah. I'm gonna finish this call under my desk. Okay. Thanks. I think we're good. Yeah. You seem to understand. I can hear you. He says he can hear me but I feel like if I wait long enough he will take off so. God he's stuck. I could see his feet. I'm looking under the part of my desk where there's a little gap. I can hear you. He's like literally shouting. Sucks. This is the worst part of the job. You're a cop man. I'm gonna pretend that I'm in a helicopter and I'm leaving under my desk. What. I gotta go. I'm in a chopper. Get out of here for your own safety. I hate this guy. Sir get out of here. I'm gonna

okay. I'm going. I don't this is like dealing with a four year old. Force year old. So the front desk cop tells him to wait and after a while a sergeant comes out and gives Paul a bureaucratic hard time and then he leaves the room for about 30 minutes and when he comes back he asks whether Paul has ever been in trouble. He told Paul that an investigation was ongoing and that Rodney was in big trouble and Paul should try to find the video. Paul should try to find the video. Yeah so they know there's a video at this point. Does Paul know there's a video? That I don't understand. I think he's saying. So the

cops know the video probably because like they've probably seen it like somebody probably sent it to him or something. Yeah no I think oh I know why okay so so no the cop doesn't fill out any complaint form right so George Holiday had called the station to offer the videotape to police okay and he told the desk officer he'd witnessed the beating by the cops and asked about the driver's condition and he's told the LAP doesn't release that kind of information and the cop seemed so uninterested in George's information that George then calls channel 5 KTLA and sells it to him the next day. So they

knew and they told him to find the video. That part I don't really understand but that's how it went down. Yeah I mean it might just be their protesting. I mean I guess they probably wouldn't be too freaked out because they're cops but they might also just be like just find the videotape. There's videotape. But why not find the video. Why not take it. Because they because they they did not care. They really thought it wouldn't be a big deal. They just were like yes so we beat the shit out of someone. Yeah okay. It's Friday. Friday so it is broadcast on Monday night against Monday Night Football. CNN then gave it

national and international exposure and the beating of Rodney King became the lead story for several days on all major networks. It was at the time the most explicit and shocking footage of police brutality ever seen on TV. Yes. At least in America. Certainly not in South Africa. But LAPD Chief Daryl Gates did I compare our cops to South African cops during apartheid? Well that's weird. How could I possibly do that except one time a South African guy sent me a message on Twitter a fan of the podcast and he said your cops are exactly like our cops were during apartheid. LAPD Chief Daryl Gates called it an aberration. That's

why they were so worried when the brothers showed up. Yes that's why they calmly. Oh boy we lost our cool last night. Oh. It wasn't. Most who had lived in South Central in places like Watson, England and Compton knew that it was pretty common. If it was uncommon you would see other cops out of those 23 cops who showed up. Yes. You'd see some of them try and interject or stop not leave. Yeah not not watch this show. Yeah and I'd be like all right man it looks like this is over. Over three years 4,400 complaints have been filed against the LAPD for misconduct excessive force wrongful death false arrest negligence

and civil rights violations. In 1989 LAPD paid 9.1 million to settle lawsuits in 1990 11.3 million. No changes were made to oversight or budget of the LAPD in response to the lawsuits. I'm guessing they got more money. Yeah well you got to fund them to stop the the beatings. Yeah well you now need cops within the cops to stop the cops. The worse they are the more money you have to give them so they can figure out how to not be bad. Right you pay them to be better. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a more bloated budget. More month yes. The way to stop a bad cop is to give him more money. Cash. Cold. The

best way to stop bad cops is to give them a tank. Yeah yeah and allow them to use swords on anybody. Anywhere. Every piece of judged ready and equipment you can dream up. Yes. A couple weeks after the tape aired at L.A. County grand jury indicted LAPD cops Stacy Coon Lawrence Powell Theodore Brezano and Timothy Wind for felony assault. They all pleaded not guilty. By the way. Wind was a rookie. The gumption too. And we didn't do it. No what do you got. I mean guys it's pretty bad. I'm pretty fucked here. I mean what do you feel like. It seems pretty incriminating. Oh yeah that's me.

I mean there's no way we can get off. I mean it's just they got it on video. I know we're cops in America but come on. This is bad. The LAPD fired the rookie while the other three only got suspension without pay. Nearly half the liquor stores in South Central were owned by Korean immigrants drawn by the cheap rent and not really needing to speak English and a stock that doesn't go bad. So they set up shops in neighborhoods not understanding that crime was at an all-time high and the police presence was heightened and black community they feel like they're under siege because they're under siege. Two

weeks after the Rodney King beating all this what's now been years-long conflict between blacks and Korean immigrants in South Central it comes to a head. On March 16th in 1991 in the morning about 9 9 30 in the morning 15 year-old LaTosha Harlins walked into Empire liquor market in Compton and she goes to the back and she grabs a bottle of orange juice and maybe just not thinking about it she puts it in her backpack with the top sticking out and she goes up to the counter with two dollars in her hand to pay for it that's the cost of the juice. And the cashier soon Jadu the owner's wife she because of the way LaTosha is

dressed thinks she's a boy. Okay. So she sorry there's a mosquito here. I wish everybody could see how you just handled the mosquito. Bad ass. How a kitten would deal with it. So soon did not see the money and she accused LaTosha of trying to steal the orange juice. She grabs LaTosha's sweater drags her over to the counter trying to pull her backpack off. LaTosha fights back because she's being dragged over the counter while she tries to pay for something and she knocks soon to the ground behind the counter and then turns around and puts the OJ on the counter five feet away from soon and walks towards the door. Soon takes out a

gun and shoots LaTosha in the back of the head killing her instantly in LaTosha's hands. $2.00. It's all on security cameras. I think I've seen some of this. Soon argues in court that she didn't remember the shooting. You know something's so easy. Is she a cop? That's such a cop excuse. So look. Even cops are like look you're being a little ambitious. Say she had a gun. Every time I shoot someone in the back of the head I just don't forget about it. You know what I mean? It's one of those things it's like it's so easy to forget. How do you remember stuff like that? How do you not come up with a better like if you're gonna go that direction. How do

you not come up with a better like that is like oh god they're gonna ask about the shooting. Yeah Adam that you have to be a little more specific. I don't yeah I don't that I don't recall. Remember that. I think you said Wednesday. Remember. You're saying I killed someone on a Wednesday morning. Just not. It does not ring a bell. No. All right well good to see everybody. She said she also said she didn't know the gun so she she doesn't remember shooting. She didn't know the gun was loaded and didn't know pull the trigger was how you fired a gun. So let's let's she doesn't remember shooting but she she does not know it's loaded. The gun

she doesn't remember. And on top of that didn't know pulling the triggers how you shot a gun so she didn't know it was loaded also didn't know how to shoot it also doesn't remember it. Right and at this point is her lawyer just kind of like nodding his head like we got this. Well this is nailed. I'm glad I'm glad we practiced. These are three of the worst excuses. I'm glad we did a run through together. On October 11th. On October 11th 1991 she was charged with voluntary manslaughter not murder. She shot a 15 year old in the back of the head as she walked out of the store. Voluntary manslaughter what I mean

that's basically just like I was indeed making a gesture of violence towards this person but without intent to kill basically. Yeah I believe so yeah. How the fuck if you should just went in the back of the head how is that how are you able to even be like yeah but I I wanted like I was just a warning. I was trying to shoot up in the ceiling and I don't look come on I want to go outside. Judge Joyce Carlin gave soon probation what the fuck service and a $500 fine no prison. Okay is that just because of the level of disregard for the people of Compton. I mean is that really what it is. Yeah that's just straight up saying a

black life has no value. That's all that's all it is 100%. So black and Korean community leaders denounce the decision. 26 year old Korean immigrant Brandon Sheen had just got 30 days in jail for kicking his cocker Spaniel. Comparisons were made between the cases. Herschel Hunt wrote to the LA Sentinel quote suddenly everything was very clear to me in my mind at this moment a black person's life is not worth as much as a dog. This is the part of the Rodney Kink stuff that people don't put together usually. They're always like the Korean because the videos and they're like the Koreans are on top of their

stores with guns protecting them it's like yeah there's a reason that that wasn't a random thing that was happening. Mayor Tom Bradley the LA Times CBS LA Senate Judiciary Chair Joseph Biden three of LA's most powerful congressmen at Senator Dianne Feinstein the LA Law School faculty and columnist George Will all called on Chief Daryl Gates to resign. If you can imagine someone being under pressure for just blatant racism in Los Angeles and refusing to resign. Well I'm also like when you hear like like if Feinstein and Biden in that era are like get out of here like yeah you gotta go it ain't

looking good. You gotta go. He refused quote I will never leave when there is a controversy I will leave when I choose to leave. Wow it's like they don't even know they're saying the quiet part out loud they're just like this is the loud part. Yeah we just had this with our sheriff. I know yeah. We just we just voted to change the law to be able to fire the sheriff because he was like fuck off I'm not going anywhere. What an emotional retirement though. It was so great to see the sheriff cry. The board of police commission commissioners put Gates on inactive duty pending an investigation into the apartment and he

was furious and refused to accept it. Wait Gates one of the officers who beat Rodney. No the police chief. Oh okay okay. So he refuses to accept the board of police commissioners decision. No this works. He appeals to the city council and suing the board for illegally convening and overstepping their power to remove him and the city council reinstates chief Darrell Gates the next day. We have the best city council in America. Don't ever forget it. Look all that happened. It's just so fucking yeah like it's monstrous. Yeah and it's all I mean again it's all you know I mean it is it's just this this farce of like we're

you we're your city council. Get this guy out of there. No. Bradley appointed deputy secretary of state and former FBA director Warren Christopher to lead an independent investigation into the LAPD. So 10 member independent commission known as the Christopher commission interviews over 50 experts 150 community reps and 500 cops and then puts out the Christopher report which exposed a systemic lack of accountability and leadership failure. The commission recommends 85 reformative changes the department should make most of which never happen. If you can imagine. Can't. Shocking. The report exposed the LAPD's

racist use of the canine units. There was a wide disparity in dog bites and attacks in black and Latino neighborhoods. That's that that's like it's just that's all that's that's that's old school slavery shit. That's like it is it's like when it's just like to empower dogs to be racist is so like hard to process you know like I know the dogs aren't making the decision but to be like these dogs are biting more black people than any like it just is yeah this this should be on the list of things that shows your society is totally fail. Yeah although some dogs are racist gray hounds are insanely racist. Well

that's because they race so much. Thank you. So the Christopher report it tells Gates to step down. Bernard Caimans is a judge who first presided over the cops trial but then a new judge is brought in Stanley Weisberg and he grants a change of venue. So it's supposed to happen in LA but he's like man you can't you can't yeah you can't have it here because too many people know about it. Yeah so where are you gonna move it where people don't know about it. Yeah I love that is an amazing one too. Yeah where do they move it. He reset the trial in Simi Valley in Ventura County. Simi Valley is semi rural super white has a black population of

2% and cops called Simi Valley and its sister city Thousand Oaks quote cop heaven. Wow. More than 4,000 active cops lived in those areas. I mean that's the other thing is like you know we've gotten so far away from the idea that you police the neighborhood that you live in like that adds no stakes to doing a good like if you're just like I just police in this town like you need to have some yeah they need to live in your town. Yeah and then you know and look I've my experience with Simi Valley is through baseball because my son has played baseball against Simi Valley teams they are the worst ugliest cheating run by

fucking asshole teams and they're all fucking cops and cops kids and there is a there was a guy there was a guy who was teaching a 12 year old to cheat as a pitcher teaching him to cheat how throwing off throwing off the people so there's only one umpire so he can't tell which way the pitchers foot moves so the picture would make his foot go forward a little bit which is a buck and then the runner would start to go and then he stopped and throw the runner up just blatantly illegal and so we play in this game against his team and it turns into this whole controversy and it turns out the coach is a cop ex cop who had been

fired for beating up a 13 year old now he is coaching 13 year olds how to cheat that is fucking Simi Valley in a nutshell orange crush that's name the team fuck you orange crush all right all right I mean you should have to call the team the cops seriously yeah oh why would you let a guy who got fired for beating up a teenager to fucking result team is out asshole he gets results so right so it's cop heaven and that means you're not gonna find a person in the on the jury that is not related to or knows a cop it's just not a thing that's gonna happen or is this white now the judge also barred the attorneys from

holding press conferences which leads to misleading media coverage mm-hmm right it's Mars highly speculative yes the child begins on March 4th 1992 there's 12 you can believe this 12 white jurists I mean oh but they all said one Asian and one Latino wait for fuck's sake you can't like wouldn't you just for optics let's placate let's play placate okay okay let's have a placation wouldn't you just be like just for the sake of coverage retrospectives wouldn't you be like we should have a black shirt you would think so you know like what is like not enough it's not a representation of society or any of but

still the yeah the balls yeah no it's insane it's insane I mean there's never been a bigger setup and like it's just Coon and Bruce Breseno try to pit themselves against the other two cops to make it seem like pal and win were the only ones are used excessive force okay so they're like boy these guys really got out of control we probably shouldn't have done something I when I taste him I was trying to taste the other guy I taste it I thought I thought I was hitting Powell when he was on the ground it turned out it was King but I was I thought I was I thought that was you get what I'm saying yes yes I thought I was beating

up another cop but it turns out yeah I don't even remember this that's a great that's actually that works in the video Breseno was kicking Rodney and Breseno's lawyer argued he was protecting Rodney from being beaten by pal and win by keeping Rodney down with his foot I mean that that's just like just the most garbage yeah you see here I am pushing his head down with force to protect him from getting beaten I mean if someone doesn't know how like because we're we were alive for this if someone doesn't know how I mean he was the the pictures of how badly he was beaten are upset it looks like he has elephantitis like it

is insane so like nobody was preventing anything from going on it is his face is as I mean again that's partially why it like struck such a cord was a there was the video and B it's like I mean he he was I mean when you saw the after effect of the video you were just like holy fuck I mean you know yeah like it is crazy yeah so Kuhn testifies that he was in charge during the incident and said it was quote managed and controlled use of force I gotta be honest I really did think that they kind of like tried a little bit more to equate you know what I mean I thought they played ball a little bit more I

did not realize they were just like whatever go with it he beat us they didn't get once the ground they basically moved the trial into their backyard department office like they it's like having a trial in a fucking police department that so once that happened they could say whatever the fuck they wanted right yeah and they're thinking a community standing he couldn't say he was following Ellen let's never forget this name is Kuhn it's the craziest it's the craziest part of this that the guy's name is a fucking slur like it's fucking it okay and he was following LAPD policies and training he said he also

tried to stop the baton blows according to him he is the one who had tasered Rodney also let's not call him batons anymore that's what cheer captains have those are for parades they are fucking bats with diamond cutters yeah the diamond bats now during the 1984 Olympics as we covered in the 1984 Olympics episode the police had put a computerized communication system in in place for the Olympics it captures every call and everything so Kuhn had sent a message calling the beating quote a big tiny use of force okay Powell said quote I haven't beaten anyone this bad in a long time but they reported only minor

injuries contusions and abrasions it's just 20 minutes 20 minutes before the beating Powell wrote quote sounds almost exciting as our last call it was right out of gorillas in the mist what is that part right what gorillas in the mist what do you mean what is he saying it was right out of gorillas in the mist it's just insane racism is it that I guess I you're not you're not I was hoping I was hoping that it was like I'm missing a okay great so they're amped up to go beat him so they had just been to a call right and whatever the call was it dealt with black people okay and he was calling his last call sorry

okay sorry not you were confused as he's not talking about the beam this is before yeah yeah 20 minutes 20 minutes before he beats up Ronnie King he has described a crime whatever situation as gorillas in the mist this so that that was a call where he went to a black household that's what he called it his lawyer said this wasn't necessarily racist let's follow where let's follow the thread here well let's give him let's hear him out here I'm out because there's I could see I could hear up could be a bunch of different reasons well there could be a guy like me who's like I haven't seen the movie sir what happens

in sir sit down okay just thought that I was the DA said this this showed motive and bias yes good was charged with assault with a deadly weapon use of excessive force under color authority falsification of a police report an accessory after the facts he was looking at a max seven years in eight months I mean fuck off like fuck off like deputy DA white repeatedly showed the jury the beating video to make his case he did not call Rodney to the stand because he was worrying worried having suffered all these skull fractures he might not remember the details correctly and could contradict one of their witnesses said

or what the videotape said so you know he has fucking brain damage I also would be like I would I would use I'd be like look at ladies gentlemen they beat this man so badly that you know it might get a little difficult you know maybe but yeah yeah I mean he also probably like I also understand the move of being like no question John I just like to play the video again please yeah so testimony about what happened was just insanely contradictory the Christopher report and LAPD internal affairs had big differences of opinion on how Rodney acted during the pursuit and after he got out of his car so the Christopher report and

then the cops who investigate cops so you know how cops do bad stuff sure well the best way to handle that is to have other cops I look in and here's the cool thing is now on TV if you're watching a cop show the bad guys are the cops that investigate cops that's how normal our society is is that the cops that oversee cops to see who's a bad cop what do you mean any fucking any procedural police show that you watch internal affairs are always the bad guys always they're always busted chops and fucking getting up in the rest and accusing him of shit they didn't do so that's how far had that's how crazy we are into this cop

society no we are we are so far gone I mean enter cops as entertainment I mean I've thought about this like my brain was poisoned about yeah cops are through movies that I saw when I was a kid and you're like it's propaganda I watched diehard on the plane when we were flying somewhere recently and you know it's like he I this apartment that's just like you watch these movies now and you're like how the fuck was this okay like he's on the plane first scene he's on the plane he's like getting his bag and they see the gun and the guy looks at he goes it's okay I'm a cop and I'm like fire that now I'd be like yeah it's okay I don't feel

a lot better at all honestly a little more nervous yeah so so the CHP officers who first tried to stop him said he fled at 110 to 150 miles an hour it was 65 well the problem with that is that those speeds are actually 20 miles faster than his Hyundai could actually go so did they check his car for a flux capacitor some of the officers said Rodney showed superhuman strength and resisted arrest now that's a classic black racist fucking trope that they throw out there there's no justification you could be like lightning was coming out of his fingers it's like look he wasn't he he's not

moving he's not moving I'm gonna actually disagree with you if lightning I mean he's not moving so he's not gonna I think you I know but lightning you okay it's that's a problem just could just let it go let let it go by the way that's I mean that's what he if they're in Simi Valley they should have gone with that yeah and he was getting ready to shoot the lightning bolts so the jury's just nodding yeah okay I mean I've never met a black man so I'm not sure they also said Rodney resisted resisted arrest when he got out of the car which is totally false he got down on his hands and knees and was about to

be cuffed yeah also okay yeah okay okay then he stopped explain why his heads broken could said Rodney had not responded to a massive number of blows sorry whoops leading Kuntafir he would have to shoot or choke him I cannot imagine being the jury even like interesting well this sounds very scientific this is interesting good insight yet at least two cops watching said they saw no need for the beating officer Melanie Singer of the CHP said he was trying to comply with commands quote King did not aggressively kick or punch the officers he was merely trying to get away from the officers officers

Ingrid Larson interesting that the two cops who stood up are women officer Ingrid Larson who was out of the police academy five days said quote King did not appear to be combative but merely used his arms to block the baton strikes yeah she's a rookie sir yeah she's done no five days in she doesn't know what's going on I know that we're supposed to beat people sir yeah she'd give her time give her time she's gonna come around paramedics said he was coherent and not acting violently Ted Koppel interviewed a juror the juror said the fact that Rodney did not take the stand made the jury think the video was weak evidence

what what in the fuck are you talking about what I'm here's my thing I'm looking for a way to not convict so I'm making here's what that is here's what here's what that juror is saying it was just 12 white people in a room talking oh you I'm gone I can't hear you fuck what the fuck there now you just came back I did talk yeah oh weird oh it says my internet okay here to me here's what she's like here's what is really being said in that interview is look it was just 12 white people in a room what do you want from like we got to talking we started saying some crazy shit because there was

nobody there to referee us yeah it's really bananas the juror also complained that the video was shaky and blurry I'm sorry you're so I've seen I've seen main streets and like you watch so you watch mean streets and it's all in focus and I can see all the crimes and the stuff that's going on but when I watch this actual beating of a human being that was taken through the window of a house with a brand new camcorder in at night with light shining on it it's not it's not as you're under it doesn't look like mean streets look there were no credits how are we to know who's who that's right he's right I wasn't I

wasn't on this but now that I hear yeah I didn't understand I was lost he's white he's very white so any who but we're gonna listen to more evidence yeah oh yeah yeah yeah we're not done oh fuck this is what the juror said quote the cops were simply doing what they had been instructed to do they were afraid he was gonna run or even attack them a lot of those blows when you watch them in slow motion were not connecting when you look at King's body three days after the incident not much damage was done he had 50 broken bones and permanent brain damage here's

what's remarkable about that this reminds me when I was in fifth grade and my teacher goes asked a question about the reading from the night before that I'd done I'd read it and I put my hand up and I gave an answer and my teacher goes now you know what Gareth definitely did the reading because he raised his hand but I know that the answer is wrong so he didn't read properly and I was like huh and that's the same thing with this this person is so believes this because they're willing to go on record as thinking this is what is real which is almost yeah more scary what it's it's so it's it's what you know again those

cops family families probably got cops in it but to say that they followed procedure like to be like I mean yeah okay okay okay okay yeah so far everything looks above board okay it looks fine I don't say anything wrong a bunch more cops show up okay okay sure on April 28th 1992 the jury began deliberating it would be five days they would deliberate the LA Police Commission had its weekly meeting at police headquarters and a police commissioner asked Gates about his contingency plan for what would happen if the cops were acquitted and Gates said he had a plan to take care of it but that was not true another

commission later said quote nobody believed those officers was going to be acquitted so we never asked to see the plan he said he had in writing he assured us that everything was in hand but it turned out it wasn't so even they were like I mean look we're cops I mean there's no way but even this but I mean come on I mean what's I mean it's even see me valley yeah even see yeah we've teed this up as much as possible but come on I mean come on what's it like the the guy who coaches the orange orange crush all right why don't we just let's that's out of a bitch let's leave the orange crush team alone at 10 a.m. the court said the

verdicts would come that afternoon Chief Gates did not issue a tactical alert LAPD's 1,000 detectives were allowed to clock out and go home at 2 p.m. many field captains who are the critical ground-level operation decision makers were not in Los Angeles they were 40 miles away at a seminar smart smart to have that that that's smart right all the guys who would give orders yep yep assistant Chief Bob Vernon was on leave pending retirement Chief Gates and Mayor Bradley had now not spoken in 13 months oh my god what what why hasn't been fired how have you not talk to him hey man that was crazy fire him yes

fire him but also what what the fuck taught you haven't talked who I mean imagine that being like I hope he's doing all right on April 29th 1992 all four cops were declared not guilty the charge they couldn't agree on was Powell's use of excessive force they as a hung jury Cops and station houses across Los Angeles cheered as the Vic verdicts were announced hip hip hip hip at foothill station officer crena Smith pumped her fist in the air and told the LA Times quote I'm elated absolutely elated it's like this sick feeling is finally going away to to to find a way to victimize your occupation in this

story it's amazing it's she it's it's like it's their it should be studied it's not possible it's amazing that they think like oh they're innocent so everything's fine yeah or like oh no we won yeah it's if I think that's what it's a frame it in such a binary way where it's just like like it should the you're you're the law enforcement you should be like how do we we need to learn from this but to be like boom got them much as what they are yeah they're it's us against them yes another said quote I feel the truth came out I mean look they were fucking Nazis we you can anything get people to believe anything

consensus consensus at LAPD headquarters was that they still had enough community support to head off any significant protests so they could now get back to business as usual beating people beating the shit out of people but Chuck D a public enemy said quote it was like throwing a match in a pool of gasoline well that's right in South Central people ran into the street screaming Rodney King Rodney King a crowd began to form bringing LAPD patrol cars to the scene when two cops tried to make an arrest they were circled by a crowd throwing rocks and bottles and chanting fuck the police

the lieutenant on scene ordered his cops to retreat and hundreds of people now were either watching the show or part of it drinking beers sipping coax and mailing about like it was some kind of urban beach party one snarled into a TV camera quote fuck y'all we killing another said quote cops gonna die it is I mean it's like how do you you know I don't know how you what the fuck do you expect by the way by the way a cop this just happened recently a cop that works in South Central was followed by a gang they learned where he lived where his kids went to school they learned everything about him and then they

followed him up to Santa Barbara because he was working as security for one of those party bus things and as he was at the back door putting people on the party bus one came up in front of them and tapped him on the shoulder he turned around and then two other guys attacked him with baseball bats and they beat the living shit out of him and almost killed him and had to be dragged off like that's crazy yeah targeting like specifically targeting but I mean yeah like it's when you when you never try to solve problems things are going to compound yeah no but that that seems like a natural offshoot of what's

happening of course this yeah the violence leads to violence I mean so yeah if when the jury had like found them not guilty that cop had said fuck really feels like it's time for some deep introspective reflection I'm happy that the people that I work with are going to be okay but I really feel like there are systemic problems that allow people to feel like this is all right this can never happen again instead yeah at Florence of Normandy young men dragged a white truck driver Reginald Denny from his 18-wheeler one put a foot on the back of his neck as others took turns slamming an oxygenator into his back

pounding his head with a hammer and smashing a concrete block into his face TV news helicopters circled above broadcasting that just after 6 30 p.m. on April 29th that the 1992 Los Angeles riots had begun congratulations everybody yeah and I'm lucky and and and when that happened white people were like holy fuck like that you know what's amazing is I was in Santa Barbara in college and while the trial was going on I would be like hey to my roommates hey we need to watch this and they're two girls and there was something very important happening on a soap opera and they were like no and I'd be like this

is like one of the biggest trials in American history like if this goes wrong it's like gonna be insane and they would let me watch it but it just shows like how distance people were from reality like just like well it's a trial it's the same same same now basically yeah there's this this is over and over again and people have either they've just probably gotten better at burying this shit other unlucky white Asian Hispanic hey what what what what is what is cat doing explain what cat is doing I don't want to explain what cat is doing hair keep going what kind of hair is keep going he's eating his hair

stop keep going you have to yell at your cat not to eat hair my god that cat needs to eat he's eating himself just look it he's so what we've hit a new level just shut up he's eating himself he's not eating himself stop saying that god damn it other unlucky white Asian Hispanic drivers crossing the intersection duct concrete rocks bottles and baseball bats that shattered their car windows groups of young black men surrounded cars pulling up indoors dragging people out robbing beating them downtown a large angry mob many who were white including people from the progressive labor and revolutionary

communist parties masked in the downtown Civic Center 300 marched down the Civic Center streets chanting no justice no peace throwing rocks rolling over and setting on fire an LAPD patrol car and demolishing a Rolls Royce okay and so far okay okay what's and torching small cheap coffee shops and taco stands god damn it leave the taco stands alone if there is anything innocent that should never be involved in any violence it is a taco stand well yeah that is that is like hollowed ground that is in in the movie Highlander you can't kill another guy in a church that's what we're done with Highlander references no more keep

bringing it back to your impression well they smashed display with those looted looted a bridal shop a radio shack and shattered every ground for ground floor window of the LA Times building yeah other stated Parker Center which was the LAPD headquarters facing off against a line of cops in riot gear they threw eggs bottles and aluminum cans of cops who held their positions as they were hit protesters screamed in their faces a kiosk in front of the Parker Center was set on fire that's kind of cool flaming kiosks sure an American flag was stomped on and burned as dusk settled in protesters started throwing rocks through

the windows above the center's entrance floor so now they're just attacking the police station yeah which is how it should be that's actually where your violence that really is that's like because because it's so easy to fog the stuff that you're doing that is why yeah like because when you think about the the Black Lives Matter protests everything gets framed as government property and damage to like businesses and stuff and so you do need to be very targeted with like what you're trying to do with violence it's obviously very difficult when you're enraged and also what you have access to and what's

protected and what's off limits but that's how they like watered down the message is by yeah but it doesn't matter I know if you don't do it they're gonna do it yeah if you don't do it they're gonna do it to their own property but it's better they'll set you right yes it doesn't matter they did the cops there's footage of the cops in the BLM yes but it's like so that's actually not but if you shouldn't but but you're saying it's a better instead of a taco shop to go at the fucking cop shop yes that's ideally but that's off like you but like there's no there's no like no it doesn't even it doesn't even matter because it's

not like reality gets reported by that side anyway like it right that's a relevant because the stuff you even the stuff you read now is just like I mean January 6 was caused by Antifa like it's totally the reality doesn't matter but that is obviously like you know I mean ideally like in Milwaukee when they burned on the police station yeah they did a poll and the majority of Americans were like yeah okay yeah yeah you're not I mean and we'll never I mean we'll never we'll never get back there because it's so propaganda is now and yeah it's I mean you know but that is um yeah so 50 sergeants got on a bus and headed to

make a makeshift command center in south south central in a metropolitan metropolitan man they only knew there was a sergeant bus oh sergeant bus that's the movie sergeant bus trying to get through the riot oh my lord and people being like this is full of sergeants like guys it's not great so what we're gonna do now all the sergeants on the bus we spray painted sergeant bus on the side little white sheets of paper up front that says bus of sergeants so that people will move we got to figure this out guys yeah we can get you through there fast the the bus yard is just chaotically overflowing

with more and more cops and and fire trucks and everything several motor homes arrived to serve as central dispatch dispatch stations but no cops have been dispatched right command level officers this is like die hard with a vengeance yeah it's really insane they're there but no one knows who's in charge it's just a mess because all the guys are right 40 miles away at a seminar the LA Times quote for 10 miles between Santa Marco Boulevard in Hollywood and Manchester Boulevard in south Los Angeles a vast area had become a holocaust of fire-gutted buildings and shattered glass apartment

buildings beauty salons mini-marts liquor discount and clothing shops and storefront churches were going up in fires the next day at a news conference chief Gates Gates said quote one of the things that overwhelmed us was the number of fires that occurred and the attacks on the firefighters it simply became impossible for the firefighters to go out and do their jobs without police protection our resources were engaged with the fire department and protecting the fire department I like that of course was oh sorry a complete lie well even yeah it's like this like was very difficult for us to

strategically figure it's like bro this is all a reaction to all the missteps that there's not one proper move that has been made so far by the police yeah no it's a total disaster but in in reality he so he says this right but in reality the fire chief had requested police escorts to fight fires but the LAPD denied the request and told the firefighters it was quote not a top priority so he uses what he uses the excuse that they are out there protecting the firefighters when in actual reality they told the firefighters he shouldn't even be in the position like he's been basically fired it's so

like it's so it's so impossible and it's only worse but it's just like it's just so fucking impossible yeah the riots moved out of South LA and snaked along the Wilshire Boulevard quarter into Korea town up to Hollywood Boulevard looters are ransacking the the tourist shops and other stores including lingerie in pouring in Fredericks of Hollywood yeah I mean that's great look get your lady something yeah you know what I mean whatever grab a hot mannequin grab a hot yeah grab hot mannequin the rioting club went into Baldwin Hills home of many of LA's middle-class and wealthy African Americans

in the southern suburban communities of Culver City Compton some Pedro Long Beach commercial streets are being plundered same thing in the north and east El Monte Pacoima Pomona so it's just that this is a massive area that I'm that I'm describing it is extraordinarily large yeah the LA Times quote during the day the crush of looters trying to get into an out-of-store parking lots would create gridlock in many areas of the city right right like looting traffic do you do the chopper traffic look yeah yeah if you if you're gonna be looting Fredericks of Hollywood we recommend you come in from the north

and I would definitely it is like having to have chaos rules like guys please respect the enter exit zones you know what we just got too many people here at the circuit city if some of you guys can back up or do two lanes it's don't steal the validating machine we all want to park for $1 over the next five days there were 3,600 fires 1,100 destroyed buildings 4,500 businesses were looted damaged and or destroyed half of those were creanoed but now you know why yeah and a billion dollars in damage was done hundreds of thousands of residents lost electrical water phone service bus service lex was closed the mayor

declared a state of emergency he called on the state to send troops and he instituted a citywide curfew sunset to sunrise president George HW Bush told the nation he would quote use whatever force is necessary to restore order right because it's what a fucking crazy thing to say what got us into this is not for us so let's use it took 20,000 cops and military forces to stop the riots there were 16,291 arrests half world Latino a third were African American many of the targets of violence were Latino immigrants or perceived immigrants and Korean shop owners shopkeepers so that's the other thing

like that's another aspect of the the race problems in Los Angeles I think they're a little bit better but black Latino really issues especially like massive school-wide brawls like you know pretty serious issues over 7,000 National Guardsmen and over 3,500 federal troops from agencies like the FBI SWAT US Marshals Immigration and Naturalization Service ATF Bureau of Prisons mobilized to help the local cops mass arrests and criminalization of the city's black and brown residents of course local officials and the Bush administration blame the violence on gang members and criminals not the

inciting incident the cops who beat up the guy yeah so mass arrests targeted areas that had been punitively punished by police since the 1970s so that's what you do right you crack down on the the people who were lashed out in anger at the mass beatings they had been experiencing yeah yeah yep that's how that's how you solve a problem yeah that's exactly yeah between 1987 1992 California increased criminal justice spending by 70% oh fucking hey again I mean it's like who I never I mean it's what we deal with me it's what we're just actively dealing with but it's like who's this and some people do but it is

just like we need more well this is that that's before that's what led up to it oh that wait that was before it yeah at least 25% of black youth in South Central had some sort of criminal record by framing the uprisings as lawlessness criminality illegality officials justified more punitive responses of aggressive policing because they keep they're always able to report crime is a problem and and white people fucking are like oh my god they always that's actually the sound that's the natural sound of white people oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god I just like so sick of having

to fill my tire oh my god oh my god I just it's been it is supposed to get here yesterday it's been two days oh my god oh my god I keep getting this guy's mail oh my god it's just a nightmare and I call it an uprising because it was an uprising I mean by fit my I used to work at the comedy cell or a lot and the owner who's now the owner I referred to we were out drinking and I referred to in his uprising and he lost his fucking mind he'd lot he was it's that's a fucking riot it's not a goddamn a it was like oh so you're crazy racist so the LA riots ended with 54 deaths 2,383 injured 41 were killed by gunshot there

were tons I this is there were tons of drive-by shootings like I think it was like 65 people were shot just walking down the street people were just out shooting at random people like it had it was not targets they were just like a guy walking on the street of injuries 198 gunshots 57 stabbings and over 400 broken bones concussions and serious cuts an Inglewood blood told journalist Mike Davis who RIP one of the best quote Rodney King shit my homies be beat like dogs by the police every day this riot is all about the homeboys murdered by the police about my little sister killed by the Koreans about 27 years of

oppression Rodney King just the trigger Dale Gates was forced to resign in June 1992 what do you mean forced to resign why the fuck wasn't he fired do you not how do what the fuck just happened that is it is really ridiculous well I mean the difference would be right that there's probably some benefits or something I don't like I benefit I don't get he I know he's a total fuck up like you don't fight you don't fight me it's that you know what that is one of the seeds that we see flourish now where people just aren't going they just aren't there's no they're not resigning in shame there's no more admitting wrong

doing they just wait it out and that's what you do you just say now I'm not gonna go now no no yeah we have we have a we have a situation here where we have you know the three three city council people caught being super racist the one one bailed she had to she was like really racist another guys his his terms almost up and then but the other guys just like I'm not gonna go and everyone's like dude you're a crazy racist asshole is like yeah but you know I've learned a lot I like it yeah if I did some soul searching and I like it here so follow pretty much what I'm supposed to do I think so so oh my god

did you guys hear about the guitar World Cup in 1993 Stacy Kuhn and Lawrence Powell were found guilty of violating Rodney King's civil rights so the feds went up right they got 30 months in prison and did not return to the LAPD the other two officers Timothy Wind and Theodore Brasino were both fired by the LAPD which even now I mean that that now doesn't you know that shit doesn't happen yet that often now well yeah and then I actually didn't look into this but what then what then which police department did they end up on it's not like when you get fired from the police department you should never be able to

be barred like they fucking like what about like you have a credit report if you don't pay your fucking bill then you can't go buy a fucking car why that doesn't work for cops at Burger King and they fire you you're gonna have a pretty hard time getting another Burger King job yeah they're probably I know you pissed in coffee Rodney King was awarded $3.8 million in his settlement all went to his lawyers and medical bills for reconstructive surgery he bought a modest house for his mother and one for himself in the suburb of Rialto he occasionally spoke with at-risk kids at the request of police let's just say he

was a super nice guy I mean he was obviously had a fucked-up childhood and in his younger years you know that that's what leads to crime is when you don't have a future but he was like that's that's like saying that he's you know the other thing is that like we do this thing where like remedy said can't we all just get along yeah and like he was like saying that as like a plea and it became like a punchline it was like in people would say that as like it was like it was one of those sort of like cultural callbacks that was used as a punchline and yeah it like you know like there's so much of that but that one is

really fucked up because you know it just shows how you know like nothing was learned really because that was like a guy who's like you know had his life taken away by this and had the maturity or I guess like it's almost absurd to just call for peace in that like that is such a yeah amazingly it's just such an amazing gesture and not only did nobody take note of it he probably fucking regretted saying it because it was like a thing that was like used in like movies or sketches or stand-up as like a you know like it became a punchline so it's like not only do we ignore the message but we mock the messenger yeah yeah so he

continued to struggle with sobriety he was engaged to be married in June 2012 when he died he was a skilled swimmer and surfer but he was found unconscious at the bottom of his swimming pool his optops autopsy showed drugs and alcohol in his system he was 47 reach research was done by Sarah June sources blew by Joe demonic the contested murder of Natasha Harlins by Brenda Stevenson above the law by Jerome Skolnick and James Fife the riot within by Rodney Glenn King policing Los Angeles by Max Felker canter the Atlantic the LA Times NPR documentaries LA 92 on National Geographic LA burning any burn mother

fucker burn on showtime yeah I mean I I've known we were gonna do this one and it's like it is so you know it's just I mean you have to do it yeah of course but it is like you know it's just awful in so many ways but it's it's I mean it's easy for a fucking white guy to say it but it is particularly awful because it's like could have been a moment nothing nothing's changed it could have been a moment to learn you could have you could have in some way it could have so was 9-11 so was the housing crisis like those are all moments yeah we just it's like we've been given we've been given every single big problem in our

society right cops 1992 as when it blew up but that's always been a problem finances 2008 our foreign policy 2001 nothing we don't do any we as a matter of fact we don't want the wrong shit we double down the wrong shit yeah it's all that I mean that's that's that's 2000 election that every single every single fucking chance we had to correct this and do something right we've done nothing and now we are where we are no it is totally true it's and and it it's it is you know yeah I mean you think like I occupy Wall Street like there are these like you know they're the embers of but it is true they they just

wait you out they are just wait they're able to wait it out and until everyone is just I mean fuck you know or a crime bill but Biden's crime bill was in 1994 so we so that opposed to like yeah the other way and now the other way the most incarcerated people in the world and now and what's the response now put a hundred thousand more cops on this one money for cops yeah no there was never there there was no you know people it's just so fucking ridiculous it just you know people don't ever really learn the lesson and it's because they do a very good job of I mean beyond that the show cops flourished and it became a

huge show and it did embolden you know mental illness as a highlight like someone answers like a drug addict became a criminal a you know the stuff that is stuff that should not be viewed as criminality people who need help like I I have situations in my family where it's that's what cops should be called people who need help yeah yes but there there are when you you you and it's so easy to give people a criminal record and then they're in your system like that is not that hard to do and when you do that you are make you are declaring war on a class of people that we want you in the system and it's so obvious why you

want people in fucking jail it's not to help them it's because you want free fucking labor and you you know I mean this is it's when you watch when you see all like the web of it all you just get people in the system it's harder for them to get out you make them poor this leads to crime this leads to free labor this is why we build prisons for profit and this is why we have the the nightmare system we have there is no yeah there is no I mean what what is what what else can you do except just try to like take care of yourself and that's what everyone is doing yeah but I don't know that guy's life is so sad it's so sad it is I mean

it's a great example of like you know he'd had no he had no chance yeah he didn't have a chance like he it just there was nothing there was no one there to help him or save him from the beginning there's one teacher that helped him and and then turned out to molest him yeah that's yeah it'll never at least at least I'll never be right again because yeah no I mean yeah all right whatever I'm gonna shut the fuck up thank god eat my own hair pizza out pcs I forgot to