The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 566 - Phyllis Schlafly - live

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine right wing monster Phyllis Schlafly. Recorded live in St Louis. Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch     Notion Mindboom...

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Starting point is 00:08:33 Phyllis McAlpine Stewart was born in St. Louis, Missouri to a middle-class Catholic family. McAlpine? McAlpine. Her mother, Dady, a... Baby? Dady. Dady. Even worse.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Or daddy. Daddy. Oh, my lord. That's how you got to do it. Her mom. I'm mommy. And I'm daddy. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Dady was a college graduate and she pushed the importance of education, cultural refinement, and family. Okay. So that's nice. Sure. Dad Bruce. That's Bruce. He, when the crash happened...
Starting point is 00:09:12 Okay. Yeah, the economic crash. He lost his 25-year Westinghouse job. Uh-huh. So he has no pension now. He's 51, he's unemployed, and he has two kids. But he refuses to go on the dole because he disapproved of, quote, Roosevelt's war on the free enterprise system and the welfare state he was building.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Oh, man. Yeah. Well, to each their own. I mean, I've always been a fan of that sort of stuff, but I guess... Oh, not dying? Yeah. Kids have shoes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's some kids out there who don't even have pants. He got a lower-paying job, however, and then Dady had to get a job as a librarian. Okay. So St. Louis is a... Did you just say you're a librarian? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, shh. Boo. Boo. Book lady. St. Louis was a democratic city, democratic party, mostly. Is that still like that? Did you guys switch? We're not sure what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:10:18 We don't know for sure. We're all kind of lost in this murky life. They all seem to be trying to fuck us. So the Stuart family are staunch Republicans, especially Dad. So Dady makes a deal with a local Catholic school to work as a librarian once a week, and then her daughters could get a free education there. Okay. So now she's working seven days a week.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Oh, shit. But don't go on the dole. Two librarian gigs. Okay. Relax, buddy. Even with this, Dad still controls the family, and his decisions are final. Okay. A classmate of Phyllis, quote, she never went through that silly giddy stage as a teenager.
Starting point is 00:11:01 She was always sort of 17 going on 35. So an asshole. Those aren't good people. Those are never good people. Hey, do you want to have fun? I'm going to read. Fuck you. Well, but wasn't part of it that it was like depressed?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Like her parents, like her mom was always in the library and she was like, oh God, we're stressed out for, I mean, I don't know her like you do, but clearly. Well, we're going to, you're going to know very soon. Well, I'll forget about it. It's because there's something wrong with her. Phyllis graduated as valedictorian in her class. Why are you mad about that? Of 10 women, white women.
Starting point is 00:11:41 You'll see. Yeah. I mean, can I get there? And yeah, you're going to get there. What happens? And left believing with hard work that she could achieve anything because she graduated as valedictorian of a class of 10 fucking white ladies. I'll be all right.
Starting point is 00:12:01 You're going to get there. Trust me. Well, I'd like to get there. Some of them are already there. Well, let us get there. So far, I think she's great. She felt that people who failed were not victims of racism or sexism. They were lazy and undisciplined.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Well, I'm moving closer to where you are. She got a scholarship to Maryville College, but she decided it wasn't challenging enough. So she went to Washington University, even though she said she had to pay. I mean, she lived at her parents' house. So back then, if you live at your parents' house, college costs fucking dick. Like it's like a $20 fucking tuition to go to fucking college back then when you live with your parents. When I went to school, it was nothing. You live with your parents and pay like 900 bucks.
Starting point is 00:12:51 A year, you see, I'm from the 30s. Okay. I feel like I'm at your one-man show. You are. It's not good right now. You're going to have a hard time. I'm only... I'm not even close to...
Starting point is 00:13:06 Have we done this one before? No. Oh. I'm not even close to... I'm going to start thinking that. As angry as I'm going to get. So it's during World War II, so she gets a job of test firing guns because she's testing ammunition. Nice.
Starting point is 00:13:23 She's working eight-hour night shifts. Of just shooting? That's nice, Phyllis. Yeah. Way to go. She's going to school during the day. I'm so exhausted from shooting all night. Me too.
Starting point is 00:13:34 She was paid less than the men, but she was fine with that because they had to lift heavy stuff. A quote. She got a master's degree when she was 20. Okay. A professor offered her to get her help find a government job, but she passed as the government was cheating and overburdening the taxpayer. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Absolutely. Yep. That's right. Got to save the money for the rich. Yep. Yep. Then she went and got a job at a right-wing think tank called the American Enterprise Association.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Nice. Nice. And she started writing speeches for congressmen about how great the free enterprise system was and is. You're living it. Writing speeches for congressmen and trying to bring organization to different conservative groups, trying to bring them together to hate like one thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Focus. Yeah. Focus it. What about trans people? You got to focus them. Yeah. Right. She lasted a year and then she decided to go back to St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Okay. Well, that's like how that's sad. Damn. She came back. That sucks. So she, because she was doing speeches and working with congressmen, she becomes a campaign manager for a guy running for a U.S. house seat for about a year and he doesn't wait and then she goes to work at a bank.
Starting point is 00:15:20 She's also a librarian at the bank. Because, I don't know, it's not as interesting as I think it could be. You know, it's like, it's just quite a wild existence. Got any stories? No. Nope. Not anything, honestly. She was also a speechwriter for bank officers.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And then she started writing the company newsletter one little, I'll just take a little sentence quote, before the meaning of freedom was debased by neo-liberals, freedom and responsibility went hand in hand. The left wing rejects Ron's responsibility as too harsh. She was 24. Nice. Fucking awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And to this day, to this day, if you're young in your 20s and you write stuff right wing, you get success. Yeah. No matter if you're writing in a newsletter or for your school paper. The 39-year-old rich lawyer, Fred Schlafly, I seriously, what's his name? Fred Schlafly. Fred Schlafly. Schlafly.
Starting point is 00:16:30 That's right. Oh, did I hear a murmur of understanding? People opening their wrists. So he reads this newsletter that the bank is sending out and he is fucking, who did this? He is like, this is amazing. I'll just rip through my lawyer suit. And he lives in Alton, Illinois and he drives all the way to St. Louis to meet the dude who is writing this amazing stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:05 That is fucking crazy. Where are you going? Shut up. I'll be back in two weeks. There's got brilliant. Shit, I can't see the road well at all. I'm on the lawn mower. And it turns out he is a she and it is love at first sight.
Starting point is 00:17:29 They start sending love letters back and forth, which are filled with political talk, hating on liberals and fear of communism. As you do when you're in love, I want to get the red menace away from your pussy. There is a pill for that now. I mean, we're just starting, Dave. We're just starting. I don't know. We're just starting.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You're going it hard. I mean, you're really... I am. You're in the paint right now, going. We've never been here. I've literally saved this topic until I came here. And we're never coming back. So, they get married nine months later.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Nice. She leaves her job, quote, Fred rescued me from the life of a working girl. So they lived in Alton, Illinois. Now, I've run into it a couple of times. Is it just a rich asshole area, Alton? It's not? Is it liberal? What the fuck is it?
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's conservative. Oh, it's boozers and heroin addicts and baby fuckers. You're starting... Nobody's making half of the gestures you just came up with. I know, but I can feel it. I feel the vibe. All of those... What?
Starting point is 00:19:03 All of those... Yeah, okay. See? Baby fuckers? Yep, baby fuckers. You're co-signing. Okay. I believe if you drive into Alton, it says, welcome to the town of baby fuckers right
Starting point is 00:19:14 there on a big sign. I'm pretty sure I've never been there. Okay. Well... I could just be making it up. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that's what it feels like to me. So they would go on to have six kids.
Starting point is 00:19:27 So the four boys were... She raised them to be very high achievers. She really pushes them as she was pushed. The four boys were taught that career is the most important thing. And the two girls are taught that career comes second to family. Right. As we all know. Sure.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yep. Phyllis soon becomes one of Alton's civic leaders and in 1951, the local Republican chairman comes to the house to try to get Fred to run for Congress. Okay. And Fred's like, I don't want to do it. I don't have any interest in being in the government. And the very frustrated Republican chairman says, what about Phyllis? And Phyllis is like, yeah, I'll run for Congress.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Okay. So she runs for Congress at the age of 27. Wow. She's the first woman to ever run in the district. Oh, boy. She crushes the other Republican in the primary. And the St. Louis Globe Democrat writes, quote, the attractive Alton housewife and political scientist deluxe scored an impressive triumph in the story.
Starting point is 00:20:44 She was pictured in an apron frying an egg with your brain on Democrat. With the caption, Miss Phyllis Schlafly cooks her husband's breakfast Wednesday morning after winning the nomination. She doesn't let political successes interfere with her wifely duties. Oh, good Lord. Good God. I'm going to be a Congresswoman. Where are the eggs?
Starting point is 00:21:15 It's never happened from here before over medial. God, shut up. Let me tell you something Phyllis, if you win tomorrow, when I get up at 6 a.m., I better have a goddamn plate of bacon and eggs and toast. Or so help me God. I will fucking kill you and all of these children. Oh, classic us. Of course it'll be ready.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Good Lord. Love you so much. May I feel something tonight too, darling? No. Okay. How dare you. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Just. You'll go to your grave without knowing an orgasm like God intended. Even if you went inside, I still would too, huh? In the general election, she made headlines around the country. A 28 women are running in the country, but she is young and a housewife. The five-term incumbent, who's a Democrat, Melvin Price, initially does not take her seriously. Quote, Phyllis is a smart girl, but perhaps a little immature.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Dick Nixon comes to speak at a rally. Super. She is. Could I get a Continental? No way. Three-eyed goblin. She's super anti-communist and wrote that the atom bomb is, quote, a marvelous gift that was given to our country by a wise God.
Starting point is 00:22:46 By a wise God. By God. Here you are. There you go. So she loves nukes. Nice. She loves love. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:59 She's a huge supporter of Joseph McCarthy. Nice. She's great. Loves his anti- Relax. Wisconsin hometown hero. Guys, awesome. Loves his anti-comy hearings.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Phyllis hated communism and said if it kept advancing the way it was, the U.S. would be communist by 1970. Ugh. Fuckin' A. Wish. God, if only she'd been right. And that Price didn't see how dangerous communism was. At the end, Price would not go on stage with her or shake her hand because he hated her
Starting point is 00:23:30 so much. Wow. And he wanted a landslide. Okay. Later that year, she was the keynote address speaker at the Illinois Republican Convention where she got a standing ovation. Of course. She was now a new voice for the right.
Starting point is 00:23:49 In 1957, Phyllis and Fred created a Catholic anti-communist organization because the existing Christian anti-communist crusade refused to admit Catholics. Wow. I mean, how, like, you're like, look, you're close to right, but you're still off a little bit. Just your, your God's a little crazy, honestly. We got it right. So good.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah. So they, you sound crazy, God. So they created the Cardinal Minzinti Foundation educating Americans why communism was against God's wishes and how to fight it. Yeah. And really, God gave us the nuke. The what? The nuke, the nuclear, the atom bomb.
Starting point is 00:24:37 That's right. God gave us the nuke to stop it. Yeah. God was like, here you go. I was resting for a while, but here's a new thing. Yes. Yes. You know, use it as a baby and a big boy.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And Cardinal Minzinti, I think he was a Hungarian. Cardinal who got tortured and murdered by communists. What's happening? What? Tortured and murdered by communists? Who? The Cardinal? The Cardinal.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah. That's why they named it after him. Look how bad communism is. I'm sure he was up to something bad. Yeah. Come on. Catholics, relax. What if communists hurt anybody?
Starting point is 00:25:12 She made speeches as the national defense chairman of the Daughters of the American Revolution. If you don't know if the Daughters of the American Revolution are, they were an organization created by the Confederates losing wives to establish that they weren't that bad, that they were all good. So the PR. The Confederate PR. A PR machine to make it so those ideas never went away and they didn't, and now that's one of the reasons why we are.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Wow. That's so cool. So on the, when she was not giving speeches and stuff, she was very often nursing one of her babies. Phyllis said, quote, I would always find a woman who would be glad to watch my baby in a buggy rather than listening to speeches. Wait, what did she say? She said she was always able to find a woman to watch her baby instead of listening to
Starting point is 00:26:08 her speeches. Okay. Like saying that's more important. Right. Just giving the. Right. And then T foundation grew after JFK one and now it reached, they reached 10,000, tens of thousands of people with their reeducation camps, known as seminars.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Wow. She was moving up the ranks of the Republican party and was elected to the Illinois Federation of Republican women Federation. It's like Starfleet. Jesus. What's going on here? That's her given a speech to try to. Why is she wearing cow inseminating gloves?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Don't worry about that. How big do those need to be? What the fuck is going on? Like, there you go. All right. Nice. Good Lord. What is she handling the nuclear materials?
Starting point is 00:26:54 I hope so. Republicans at this time had a liberal wing and a conservative wing in their party. Conservatives were the minority and liberals were the majority. Wow. I believe that an elite cabal of liberal GOP members were controlling the party and forcing liberal candidates on them constantly. And then they'd lose because of that because she wants to move the party to the right. She believes they were fighting for four freedoms.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Freedom to keep our religious heritage, freedom from obscenity, freedom from criminal attack, and freedom from communist conspiracy. Isn't that basically what it is today? Yes. It's fucking amazing that it's still like, look, they're coming for us. Well, look out. Put on your inseminating mittens. In 1963, the St. Louis Globe Democrat named her as its Woman of Achievement.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Wow. She quote, stands for everything that is a made America great. Oh my God. And those things which will keep it that way. Absolutely. Yes. Yep. She can fry an egg.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah. She was also a huge fan of racist Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. And she wants him to get the nomination in 64. She's pushing for it. She has a bust of Barry Goldwater at home in her living room. She has a bust. A bust. I thought you were saying a bust, first of all.
Starting point is 00:28:40 There's a bust. Holy shit. She's like, Barry Gold, she has a Barry Goldwater bust. In her living room. Fuck. Like a fucking... Like an idol. Like a...
Starting point is 00:28:50 Like that is just a psychopath. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, no. Kids, we're all gonna go look at the bust. Come on now. All right. Rub Barry's head and then we'll go eat eggs. For good luck.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So she writes and self-publishes a book called A Choice Not an Echo. It is about the Republican liberal king-makers and the GOP who are choosing candidates that are too similar to Democrats. So that's... So she's... Right. If you can imagine in America, a party, choosing candidates that are too similar to the other side and they keep losing, that's what she's talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:31 If you can imagine something like that happening... To be fair, then... If you can just help give $15 today... It sells 3 million copies. Oh, fuck. No advertising. It's all word-of-mouth. Oh, good lord.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Sounds like an echo. Mostly ministers... Mostly ministers passing it out at church and stuff. And the John Birch Society passing it out. So people like that, they get it and they're all passing it out. The U.S. press rips it apart. The Minneapolis Tribune, quote, anyone who sees so much duplicity in her fellow man, so much evil in the hearts of national leaders, so many plots of conspiracies, must be a sorely
Starting point is 00:30:14 troubled, unhappy person. But then right at this time, I mean, that's basically what plays out in the Republican nomination with the Rockefellers, basically someone has to drop out late and then they kind of have to pick someone and it turns into a shit show and she's like, see? And so it happens and more people read the book. So because more popular and also more people are like, right, she's right. So she is a big part of why, writing this book, why Barry Goldwater gets the GOP nomination. Smart, too.
Starting point is 00:30:46 But then she's not given a job on the national campaign because once he wins, his Arizona people want him to appear more moderate and get away from her. So he gets crushed, so that's good. So she burned a lot of bridges during the Goldwater campaign. Not a lot of people in the GOP like her and they want to get rid of her. They want to push her out. Nuker. But she had become, yeah, but she has become the VP of the National Federation of Republican
Starting point is 00:31:16 Women and she's brought a bunch of women into the party with the book and now she wants to be president. Nice. Holy shit. That was fast. Usually it's a totally uncontested race. Like it's just, oh, this is the most popular woman or we'll give it to her. But the Republicans don't want her, so they put up 63-year-old Gladys O'Donnell to run
Starting point is 00:31:38 against her. So she's like connecting, like, Phyllis is like connecting with, and they're like, here we go. Go, win. Yeah, what about this? Gladys was often described as mild and accommodating. That's right. This is my mild friend, Gladys.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Hello. What would you like a snack? So they ask Phyllis to drop out for party unity and they also start writing articles telling her to drop out and Phyllis says, it just all plays in her hands. She says the party men, quote, no, they can control Gladys O'Donnell and they know they can't control me. Oh, stop it. So the party has closed door meetings to plot against Phyllis.
Starting point is 00:32:22 They move the convention date so they can promote Gladys more and get more people to know Gladys. They move the actual convention from Orange County in California, where everyone loves Phyllis, to D.C. They rule the new president has to live in an apartment they bought in D.C., which is a one bedroom, and Phyllis has six kids. Wow, that's an amazing one. Well, I just have the cats.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Won't be tough for me. Oh, you've got the six kids. Well, unfortunately, you won't be able to pass that threshold, will you? I only have the 18 cats. Yeah, that's right. In my hat. Tats and cats, that's my deal. Shouldn't have fucked so much, eh?
Starting point is 00:33:16 You liked it. You wanted to do it Republican style. Yeah, that's right. So there's the, they have a convention, this group, the Federation, whatever, the blah-blah-blah women. Federation of Republican women, which sounds like Starfleet sort of. Yeah, it really does. And looks like an alien from Starfleet a little bit, if you...
Starting point is 00:33:38 Be made out. Now, Phyllis delegates are denied entry. They like check their IDs and kick them out. Wow, fuck. No, it is. I mean, it's just so reminiscent, but it's like... It's not. I mean, unfortunately, that it only makes these people more appealing in a way, you know what
Starting point is 00:33:57 I mean? Right. The Washington Star wrote, there were, quote, riotous scenes of booing, weeping, and teeth gnashing. Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. Oh, fine, you can come in. Settle down. Gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Relax over there. Have some nice table cheeses. Phyllis said the voting machines needed to be tested by auditors, an independent auditor, and then they shut down the machines before the guy could audit them. Wow. guy running and grabbing the court. No, it's fine. Yeah. And we still use the same machines today. Yes, we do.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Jesus. Gladys won. Oh. Phyllis frames it as men controlling the party while women have to do all the work. After NFRW's membership fell by half. Okay. Phyllis now started a newsletter, the Phyllis Shloughley report. Oh, what a great name. Many who had left the NFRW signed up for her newsletter and then Shloughley clubs started popping up around the country. Shloughley clubs.
Starting point is 00:35:28 She began training right-wing women how to affect change. No, boy. How to get your message across on tv, how to launch effective letter writing campaigns, how to testify at public hearings, etc. She also held workshops on what to wear for tv. Oh boy. She encouraged physical fitness because quote television puts 20 pounds on you. She presented a daily workout routine for women to do and gave prizes to the woman who lost the most weight between conferences. Oh boy, wow. Well, the weigh-in must have been awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I mean, okay. You stand over there in the pie line. What? I lost 20 pounds by taking my head off. You will notice today that all of the blonde republican women are always very skinny when they go on the news. Yeah. Or even when you watch the news. It's the same fucking model. All the Tory, whatever her name, Tory, the ass clown from Wyoming. What's her name? The ass clown from Wyoming. That's so hard. What's her name? Tory Tawney. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But that's all. They all have the same
Starting point is 00:36:41 sort of come out of the same model. So Phyllis runs for Congress again in 1970. Now, the reason she runs is because she thinks Nixon is liberal. Well, to be fair, by today's standard, honestly, yeah, I mean, we've got to protect the environment. You fucking commie. We're all, I'm like out of my mind, but we need a planet. Shut the fuck up, psycho. Like I'm a lunatic, but come on. And she hopes her campaign will help drag him to the right. The dem was a seven-term incumbent who refused to debate her.
Starting point is 00:37:21 She ran ads. That's, I mean, that's also so fucking stupid. Yeah, I think so. She ran ads by Gerald Ford and John Wayne. I mean, it's always so funny. You're always like, yeah, this is an evil woman. And then the media is like, yeah, she's a woman. Fuck her. Like it's always like between this place. I'm like, right, she's a woman, but then don't. Oh God, you guys are fucking assholes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's always, it's always the same. Like they just picked the worst picture and woman stirs hopes of just random
Starting point is 00:37:55 woman doing bad things out there. Woman. Uh, the, the, the, the, her demoponent labeled her an egghead, labeled her an egghead of quote, all her degrees and breeding and books. I mean, what the fuck? Why can't you, that's just, there's like better ways to beat her than to just be like, she's just reading a lot and having babies. Sacco. He once said, quote, who thinks my Harvard educated opponent ought to quit attacking my foreign aid votes and stay at home with her husband and six kids?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Jesus Christ. Hello. She did it again. And this is the campaign. She did it. She took another fucking picture of herself in front of a fucking stove. She lost. If she had won, we might be better off. The Eagle rights amendment is proposed, uh, is a proposed constitutional amendment that would guarantee equal rights for all Americans. It was first introduced to Congress in 1923. It has been reduced every, reintroduced every year annually, but not past.
Starting point is 00:39:07 In the forties, the labor labor unions opposed it, saying it would end protective legislation for women. But in 1970, a new push began and Richard Nixon supported it. Poll showed most Americans supported it. So at past Congress in 1972, only three-fourths of the states had to ratify the ERA in seven years for it to become part of the Constitution. And many did. Sometimes debate in a legislature would be just 10 minutes. 30 states ratified it in a year. It was really, really popular. Only eight more states were needed.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Here we go. And Phyllis had very little interest in it. She thought the ERA was innocuous and mildly helpful. And then a friend came to her and asked her to debate a feminist about it. And she said, I have no idea what it is, but I'll read up on it. Uh-oh. There goes that reading again. Quote, I knew from the start I had found enough seriously wrong with the ERA to stop it. Uh-oh. Well, here we go. Mixing ingredients,
Starting point is 00:40:17 sure, for a cake. But races for equality? I don't think so. The ERA, by the way, would only apply to government jobs. It's not for private, it's just for the government. Phyllis quickly created the stop ERA movement. Stop was an acronym for stop taking our privileges. I don't, I don't think it's okay for the first, for your acronyms, first word to be the acronym. I think that's an acronym, faux pas. I know there's more going on, but to be like, stop. It stands for stop taking, wait, what's the first?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Stop. And the acronym? Also stop. Did you work a little harder? This isn't me. No, we tried a bunch of shit. Stop made the most sense. Stop. It stands for stop. We're in the stop era. If you start walking down the street, you'd be like, oh, I'm a little confused. Look at that earnest face. We just need to keep it real white. I'm sorry. Stop. Yeah, the first word stop. Quote, the family is the basic unit of society, which is ingrained in the
Starting point is 00:41:52 laws and customs of our Judeo-Christian civilization, and is the greatest single achievement in the history of women's rights. I mean, it assures, yes, it assures a woman the most precious and important right of all, the right to keep her own baby. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm making words up. What is she saying? I'm just saying shit. What? Didn't she say she just read a bunch of learned like how she's like, look, they're trying to take your baby. Excuse me? I have to go.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Can I ask you a follow-up? Stop. They're taking your babies. If women are being paid the same amount while they work for, when they work at the DMV, how are you gonna keep their babies? Next thing you know, you're just working for the government and then you'd have no babies. It's pretty clear. That's what equality will do. Stop. It stands for stop take, stop. God wouldn't have made the family if he wanted you to...
Starting point is 00:43:07 Stop. Stop. Stop. This country was founded upon, we were the first ones here, stop. What God have allowed this country to be founded on the owning of other people if he wanted this? Fuck. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. God damn it. Stop. The family is a thing that you used to be able to buy and separate. You could sell the kids. Hold on. No, no, no. Fuck. You make babies and you sell them for profit down the river to other fucks. Stop.
Starting point is 00:43:44 God damn it. I got pregnant six times without assertion by wearing an inseminating mittens. Stop. Stop. She said, the ERA would force women's colleges to admit men and women's protective labor laws, which she really fucking cared about. Yeah, for sure. What she's talking about is a thing from earlier about men having to lift up heavier things. Right, right, right. That's what she's talking about. She's saying,
Starting point is 00:44:27 women will all have to lift. Now you'll have to lift. You'll all have to lift heavy stuff. Okay, imagine that. Is that what you want? Can picture it. Your backs will hurt. End of the traditional family. That's it. It's equal. How? How? I think... No, no more men and women marrying. Everything's equal now. You have to marry someone with a vagina. It's equal. How does that even... Families will literally stop existing.
Starting point is 00:44:55 How? Stop. Now, listen. Shut the fuck up. No. No. End alimony and child support. There'll be no more alimony. Why? I didn't stop. I'm not answering any more questions. Just shut the fuck up. Catholics would have female priests. Oh, no. Oh, God. Oh, dear. Who will molest the children? That could lead to adult fucking. Oh, good lord. We'd have to come up with a whole bunch of new silly hats. Gonna be a fucking nightmare. Stop. You imagine women around these fucking
Starting point is 00:45:42 Catholics? Oh, dear. Hasidic Jews would have men and women sitting together? I like... I like that she is staunchly Christian and she's like... Men for the Jews who are super wrong, super way off place. They'll be sitting together. The people who killed Jesus will get to sit together. Imagine. They'll be his sitting Jews. And there's a bunch of these, but my favorite is one she said to Barbara Walters. Oh, God. In child custody cases, quote,
Starting point is 00:46:29 the mother and father would each get half of the children. Oh, my God. What? Split them right down the middle. King Solomon's Court. I guess for this one I'll take the legs and the junk. Oh, I'd rather just go down the middle. Like a grilled cheese. The middle. Yeah. Yeah, sandwich style. Okay. There we are. I didn't think about that. We each get a leg and an arm. That's perfect. Look at that. Lovely. We'll split the kids. Now those aren't even the parts of the bill that upset
Starting point is 00:47:10 her the most. Oh, fuck. She was very upset that women would now get drafted. Same-sex couples could get married. Gays would have the same married rights as heteros, including adoption, unisex, bathrooms. If you pass the ERA, the bathrooms are all going to be the same fucking thing. Men will know we shit. It's all going to be urinals. Men will finally know we're shitting in there. Is that what you want? We've covered it up for this long and we should keep that going.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Nothing comes out. And if it does, it's like bunny poo. You can eat it in a pinch. You foolish people. This is a Pandora's box. Most importantly, legalized abortion because women would have the same right to not be pregnant like men. How dare you? My uncle was a big anti-abortion guy right here in the state of Missouri and weirdly, he didn't come to the fucking show.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It would be so great if he was like, I did. Fuck you, Ted. Oh, Dave, come home, buddy. We love you. Remember when you gave $10,000 to a televangelist and then had to live in a tent in your mom's backyard? I've paid to live in a tent. Good job, Ted. You fucking genius. Those are some of the best years of my life in that mom yard. That was awesome. And you know what we did? We solved the problem. What was the problem?
Starting point is 00:49:17 That there were too many men named Ted with homes. Ted tents are popping up all over. Ted tents. It's a Ted city. So all of her arguments are fucking garbage. Right. Yeah. Make no sense. And she's saying that to Barbara Walters and she's like interesting. What an interesting take. The New York Times explained Phyllis's opposition, quote, it would take away the special protection of the Christian tradition of chivalry offered women for fucks. I mean, it is so fucking.
Starting point is 00:49:53 It's just this fucking religious. It's just good God. Like, look, it's fine. If you want to read Snow White in your house, go fucking do it. Enjoy it. But you cannot be fucking legislating. Like, you know what I mean? Like you. It's got to stop. At what point are you just like, look, you can believe in the man up there who looks like old Matthew McConaughey and Mandels and Tivas and is eating gorp all the time and created all the animals. You can do that. But when it comes to how we're going to live as a society, shut your fucking
Starting point is 00:50:26 mouth. You have no. I have to because he's up there telling me to do it. Yeah. Well, shut the fuck up. I don't know about that. He made me cash me outside. That's what you just got to say. Yeah. And that's yeah. That's the other part of what a horrendous part of Christianity and everyone has to also join. Oh, okay. You know, I'm trying to save you so you can go to the penthouse. I just want to see you up there with your friends and family. We're going to brunch forever.
Starting point is 00:51:09 It would take away the special protection, the Christian tradition of chivalry offered women the right to be supported and protected by men. Oh my god. What a right. And by the way, this is an era where men are just such a shit. I mean, not that that has ended, but men are shitbags. What are you talking about? It's not like it's just like, without you, where would we be? They're like, this supper's cold. I'm drunk at four. Oh god. Do you remember the era when men were the era when men were ship ass? If we're not careful, men will turn evil on us. Shut the fuck up in there. Sorry, hon.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Assume the Republican position. I'm coming in. Oh, well, not. He means the room. That's it. A letter. That's the lamp, hon. That's the lamp. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. We need a new shade. Blah. A letter sent to Ohio legislators said professional women pushing the ERA could get whatever they wanted. But, quote, we, the wives and working women, need you, dear senators, and representatives to protect us. Please hold us back. Please save us from ourselves. And Phyllis said true freedom for women
Starting point is 00:52:23 came from, quote, the American free enterprise system. Absolutely, baby. Like in slavery times. She tried to frame liberation as the real form of bondage and said traditional gender roles were actually freeing for women. Quote. Yep, that's so true. Yeah. Women livers view the home as a prison and the wife and mother as a slave. The women livers don't understand that most women want to be a wife, mother, and homemaker and are happy in that role. Oh my god. Oh. So the first date, the Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:53:05 legislature voted against the ERA and then Illinois and then Ohio. Man, oh man. And then Nevada. Oh boy. And then Louisiana. Fuck it, hey. In 1975, Phyllis created the Eagle Forum to oppose women's lib. The Eagle Forum. It's just so fucking, like you said, it's just dumb. It's dumb. This eagle, like if you love the eagle, shouldn't we like preserve nature? Ah, fuck you. Nature's for oil rigs. Yeah, like what will, what will happen when the bald eagle goes extinct? What do we, I mean, what do we have like
Starting point is 00:53:42 three and we'll be like, look at them. Beautiful freedom. Shame they can't breathe anymore. Just with oxygen tanks, like let freedom ring. Drink from your oil river like it's Wonka water. Oh yeah, you like freedom, huh? Can't go outside between nine and nine, but oh man. Whoo. So remember, she had been training all these women and so now Stop ERA branches were everywhere and they were running themselves. They're running their own actions. They had their own leaders. They
Starting point is 00:54:22 were making their own decisions. She would because because it's so vacuous, it's like you could kind of do whatever the fuck you want in a way, like whatever, right? Yeah, it's a very like you can also just make up, like that's what I mean. There's no thing where someone's like, you can't say that because it's all fucking whatever works. You could just be like, yeah, it's jazz, baby, like whatever's working. We'll figure it out once the people start smiling, baby. They would go to state legislatures with baked goods.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Oh, for fuck's sake. Well, I don't know. I did believe that we were all equal and then I had this delicious pecan nut cookie. Well, whatever. I guess you're right. We need to stop what we're doing. Home baked bread. Quite a cake. Ah, fuck it. Home baked bread with the slogan from the bread makers to the bread winners. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, god damn it. Ugh. Do you see? We like white bread the best. Feminist portrayed Phil as followers as, now this is where the left always fucks up.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Feminist portrayed Phil as followers as impressionable women being led astray. Instead of just they're also fucking evil. Yeah. They're all bad. But many were educated and believe God had ordained women to care for the family while men earned money. Others were tired of all the change of the 60s. So Phyllis starts testifying in-state legislatures against the ERA. Thousands are coming to her rallies. Nobody knows how she's doing it. But she's already set up this huge infrastructure, this huge system.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Put stuff in the baked goods. And so she can reach out to tons of women at once. Email. And all the politicians are like, how's she doing that? Facebook. Twitter. So the tide turns against the ERA. In Arkansas, the bill was heavily favored and then Phyllis testified afterwards it was defeated. So people are just like, you're the worst. Her arguments are absurd. Feminist.
Starting point is 00:56:31 So feminist can't argue with her because the shit she's saying is batshit crazy. That's like the James Brown lyric. You don't know karate, but you know crazy. We're like, I can't defend what you're doing. Like, yeah, kick a punching machine. You're like, I'm trained in martial arts. A booklet was put out trying to tell feminists how to debate Phyllis. Because again, she just says shit and you don't know what to do. And she says it with a confident manner.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And you're just like, what? I'm sorry. And the pamphlet said, quote, don't sound antagonistic or hostile. Realize that disruptive audience behavior works for her rather than against her. She is cool under attack and she's good at it. She knows all of her answers. Feminist Betty Friedan debated Phyllis in 1973. So Phyllis said there weren't more women in Congress
Starting point is 00:57:28 because they didn't want to do the work and were too busy having babies. What is going on? She's just saying shit. I mean, yeah, it's nuts. Too busy. Friedan snapped, quote, I consider you a traitor to your sex. An aunt Tom. I want to burn you at the stake.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That's the problem. Overcooking is usual. Man, that is great. That comes out. You're like, man, it felt good, but probably not the best. And she's 100% right. But that's the irate anger that they bring up in you because they are fucking batshit crazy. Phyllis calmly looked back at her and said, quote, I'm glad you said that
Starting point is 00:58:22 because it just shows the intemperate nature of proponents of the ERA. And that's how she won that debate. But man, it would have been fucking great to just follow it up with action. Yeah, oh, burn you at the stake. So it's not like you accidentally like let a word slip. You're just like, now you are a witch woman. Burn her. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 So because because she seemed cool and collected and feminists are getting upset because they have a righteous anger, she seems as though she's the cool calm one and she keeps winning. And now the feminists... So nobody's listening to anything she's saying. They're just like very calm. Well, the feminists, because they're acting up, right, are looking like the extremists now.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Which is what you should be in a situation with a psycho. You're having the correct response here. So Phyllis still holds in America her views are extremist and the feminist views are mainstream. Phyllis is 100% in a massive minority at this point. She doesn't like minorities. So she hates herself. Now this is where this picture comes in.
Starting point is 00:59:48 If the media had ignored her, the ERA would have passed. But instead, they had to give equal time to this opposing viewpoint. Always. Well, that's rational. Now let's hear some crazy bullshit. What do you got? Well, it's nuts.
Starting point is 01:00:03 But here we go. I'd love to use my three minutes to talk about recipes in God lore. Fucking bonkers. Well, there we go. You decide what the fuck. This is nuts. Right. So she's a huge minority of you and they treat her.
Starting point is 01:00:20 It's just it's exactly like climate change. Yeah, right. Very rational. Now the person who thinks he's a car. Thank you. So Phyllis becomes a huge media star. She's regularly on TV. She goes on Phil Donahue.
Starting point is 01:00:36 She's on all the talk shows constantly. She's making the same points and the same speeches over and over again. And it's just free television time. But it's also is it also what we do now? Which is like you're just I mean, you're good for because we all you elicit a reaction. You're good for ratings, basically. Yes, but I would say it's different. Phil Donahue would actually sit down and have a long conversation with you.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Now they would say what are your four beats and you would spew them out. And then they get somebody yell at you. So it's like been reduced. But yeah, right. But even then it was still the same. She was saying her same speeches. Right. He's very feminist at this point.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But he is letting her on the fucking show to talk. Spreading her because it's media. Right. Right. It's just a shit show. Right. So Phyllis got a five year radio deal. National radio show.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Good Lord. Having a strong leader made it seem like the anti-ERA movement was organized and unified more than it actually was. And Phyllis is also framing her side as the little guys fighting the establishment, which is essentially she is because she's in the minority. Her rallies would have skits and special effects and refreshments. Skits. Like they had like a congressman jump up just up as a gorilla.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It's all this crazy shit. What? I don't know. She's also, she's on almost every fucking literally every national TV show, every radio show. She speaks at 500 colleges like in two years. Wow. She usually started with quote,
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'd like to thank my husband for letting me be here tonight. I always like to say that because that makes the lips so mad. I mean, it really is like the platform is triggering. Yes. I mean, it really is just like my husband allowed me to be here. That pisses them off. That's the goal. They're just fucking trolls.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Exhausted. We're going to hand out towels in a minute. You can wrap them around your necks. Then there's going to be a Gatorade break where we can all hydrate. She told her audiences, the ERA was an attempt by lesbians, radical and federal employees.
Starting point is 01:02:53 What the fuck? We don't know how they met up, but they did one fateful night in the forest in darkness. Letters sealed with wax. Get this to the lesbians and the federal employees. Hurry, go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You may all remove your hooded cloaks.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. Lesbians, federal employees. Welcome to the council of pushing through the ERA. The goal is to shit together in unisex bathrooms, shower like in Starship Troopers. We will reach our goal. Oh, God. It's just, it's just, if she had said this and then everyone just laughed at her,
Starting point is 01:03:50 it would have all ended. You know what I mean? Yeah. If she said, if she said lesbians, radical and federal employees, and everyone's just like, it would go away. Yeah, instead people are like, they are meeting. Very interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:05 An attempt by lesbians, radicals and federal employees to create a constitutional cure for their laziness and personal problems. Like what are you, I mean, what are you even saying? It's just been said for so long that it's like, right. They do think, you know, capitalists like this believe that people who don't work are lazy. They also believe that socialists aren't lazy, are lazy. The funniest thing was I made a crack at Mark Cuban on Twitter
Starting point is 01:04:36 and he said, well, you need to just get a job. And then I said, why don't you fucking go Google my IMDB page? And then, and then he just deleted his tweet and moved on. But that's what they think, right? Socialists don't work. No, there's a fucking ton of us that work, bitch, and we're going to work harder and then mousy tongue. So, I know people are like, the more this goes on,
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'm like, they had some pretty good ideas. Dude, hit this and Mao was right, dude. Hold it in, dude. Fucking dude. Do you want to go to a forest meeting cloaked in shadows tonight, dude? No. Dude, we're going to go meet some fucking lesbians and federal employees. Get up this covered wagon, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Let's go. So it's like the Warriors, radical. So because this was an issue of the right, the issue of bathrooms rose up. Much like they said during desegregation, that black men would be committing sex acts on white women and children in bathrooms, now the integration of bathrooms would lead to sexual violence against white women and children because of the Equal Rights Amendment. Or as we call it, the same thing they are doing with trans people now.
Starting point is 01:06:25 This is an actual page from one of their pamphlets and it says, making all facilities co-ed question mark at top. And if you read the bottom line, do you want the sexes fully integrated like the races? So they're just putting out there who they are, straight up. So there are cartoons of gay and lesbian marriages, images of men dressed as women or women dressed as men. So these pamphlets are just all full of this shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:57 A reporter asked Phyllis what she would do if one of her kids turned out to be gay. And Phyllis said, quote, that would be impossible. Her son, John, came out as gay in 1992. Amazing. And then you have six kids, the odds of one, pretty good. That must have been pretty difficult. I'm sorry, I didn't understand you. Mom, don't kill me.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Seriously, don't kill me. I don't like women. I'm not attracted. I don't like women either. That's OK. That's a bad, right. I agree. We're on the same page.
Starting point is 01:07:56 OK, that's a bad way to start this. Have a muffin. Don't say anything else. Eat this muffin. Put this muffin in your mouth. I have put muffins. OK, that's two. I've put two muffins in my mouth and a loaf.
Starting point is 01:08:11 What I'm saying is I don't like women. OK, me either. Yeah. The way you like men. I like men the way you like men. I don't really like men either. OK, that's true. I don't like anyone.
Starting point is 01:08:30 That's true. I don't like me. OK, that's bad. I really like men. I want to fuck them and cuddle with them and I want to go to the beach and roll the hands. You're a doctor. I'm just going to cook a bunch of eggs real quick.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Who wants pancakes? I do believe I didn't read too much up on it because I don't care, but she did accept it. She didn't cast him aside like you would think. So she, yeah, OK. Hold on to that because we're going to get to it at the end. Put that in your pocket and see if you want to bring it out later. So shockingly on the left, the people fighting her,
Starting point is 01:09:07 there's division and friction. Two main groups, National Organization of Women now, and ERA America, now wants to link the ERA to larger issues, abortion, gay rights. Their organization is ERA America? ERA America. But I'm calling it ERA America. It's a bad, it doesn't work in my brain when I read it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Urm, urmica. Aramica. Aramica. ERA America. Nice. Urmica. So they want to bring in all the issues. ERA America wants to just focus on specifically the ERA, just fight for that.
Starting point is 01:09:53 So now rejects working in the patriarchal system. ERA America just wants to change the minds of these old white guys in charge now. So, yeah. Yeah, on top of all this, in 1975, Phyllis decided to go to law school, because she's a fucking asshole, because she can, because I'm sure there's someone taking care of her fucking kids, and she's got all these people working for her now, and she acts like she doesn't have time, but she does have fucking time. She's just doing a fucking interview here and there.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I mean, that's what's really fucking happening. Whatever. In seven... Sounds like you don't like her. Does anyone else give it that sense? People who have all the privileges in the world and the fucking money in the world that act like it's hard to go to school, compared to someone who is actually, like, fucking has a family, they're taking care of working and trying to put themselves
Starting point is 01:10:49 to school. It's never the fucking same thing, but they always act like it is. Born on third and acting like you hit a triple. I don't know what that means. The catcher's taking care of the babies at home. So, in 1977, Ford lost to Carter, and basically, if you read... You should read Rick Perlstein's books, but he recently... The recent one comes out, it's about Reagan taking over.
Starting point is 01:11:15 It's when the right takes over control of the GOP. And in 1977, the International Women's Year Commission holds a conference. So, women decide they're going to have this massive conference of fucking women and come up with the most important issues to women and present them to leaders. Unfortunately, they decided they were also going to invite conservatives to this. 1400 delegates are going to formulate a national plan of action to promote equality between men and women, which they would then present to Jimmy Carter. Tons of famous women are there, feminists expect it to be a huge role-changing moment
Starting point is 01:11:53 for the planet, except the invited conservatives. Phyllis rallies her troops to come with the intent to block any important measure. And they make up about 25% of women. As it goes on, it devolves into bitter arguing. Phyllis had organized an alternative conference across town to go after they would walk out publicly in mass, knowing they knew what was going to happen. They had it all planned. So, counter-protests are also a very common tactic of hers.
Starting point is 01:12:31 When there's a protest, she always has a counter-protest. So, this is her way of doing it on a much larger scale. The NWC had 10,000 supporters. Phyllis had 15,000 mostly middle-aged, church-going white women. So, thousands are turned away. The venue's not even big enough for all the women that come to Phyllis's thing. Clay's mother, who was a Texas Republican rep, was cheered as he spoke and called for, quote, victory over the perverts in this country.
Starting point is 01:13:04 I want the right to segregate myself from these misfits and perverts. It's the same. It's the same they're doing now. I know, but it's so... what? What are you talking about? Perverts are like an organization. Allow us our freedom. Well, never forget that they're doing this and they're like, the Catholic Church is cool. Yeah, right. I know, yeah. It never gets out of my mind.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I know. It's amazing to pull that off too. To be like, you perverts, didn't you molest kids and cover it up? Shut up, perv. And it's not just the Catholic Church. It's the fucking Mormons. It's the fucking Baptists. They're all hiding fucking molestation. Right. They're professional molestation hiding groups.
Starting point is 01:13:55 So, Phyllis takes out a half-page ad. In a Houston paper during these conventions, showing a little girl asking, Mommy, when I grew up, can I be a lesbian? Oh, my Lord. Wow. And my answer is... Just how it always played out, too. But my answer is, oh, yeah. Yeah, you can. Mommy, may I come out of the darkness with the flowers?
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah, it's so funny, because if a kid came to me, I'd be like, yeah, fuck, yeah, go for it. Yeah. To them, I'm like, oh, my God. What if she asked that? Well, then you go, fuck, yeah, I mean, go at it. Have at it. What do you want to do? What? Oh, what an amazing scenario. So funny. Mommy, when I grew up, can I be a lesbian?
Starting point is 01:14:51 Eat the banana bread. Eat a bunch of it. But right here, it says... Oh, God, the fine print. I can only imagine what that fine print says. For example, their proposals to legalize homosexuality would allow divorced homosexuals custody of children, thus creating homosexual role models for perceptible children. Yeah, that's right. Now, just how it works. Just how it works, for sure. Like, it's just all this fucking crazy shit. It's just the same fucking crazy shit. Homosexual...
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah, fuck you, baby. Of course, her rally, because it's a counter-rally, gets a counter-rally, gets fucking massive media attention. Of course. Fucking A. And the next three months, the IRA was rejected by Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina. Florida refused to debate it. Well, there we go. Indiana ratifies it by two votes, the 35th state to do so. So only three more states are needed.
Starting point is 01:15:47 This is down to the wire. Congress extends the... So there's a seven... Remember, there was a seven-year deadline. Congress extends it by four years to 1982, but no other states ever ratified it since. Phyllis already knew it was dead. In, I think it was, yeah, 79, she had a massive celebration with 1400 prominent Republicans in D.C. There was a wreath draped with a black rest in peace IRA ribbon. Fortunately, someone called it a bomb threat, and the room had to be evacuated and searched. All part of God's plan.
Starting point is 01:16:32 So basically, Phyllis had brought together a bunch of desperate conservative groups used the backlash from Roe v. Wade being passed to kill the IRA. And the victory built up their confidence. This was two years before Jerry Falwell founds the moral majority. Damn it. Arthur Marjorie Spruill believes that Houston, the Houston weekend was the actual birthplace of the Christian right and its influence over the GOP. Few issues of this size have had one person who so influenced the outcome.
Starting point is 01:17:08 It would have been ratified in 1976, if not for Phyllis Schlafly. Fucking nuts. There are very prominent, there are very prominent evil people at times in history. And right now, the biggest one is Steve Bannon. Critics and supporters both attribute the defeat to Phyllis. And of course, God. Yeah, it's so specific for him, by the way, to weigh in. I don't think that we should have equality for government employees.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Sorry, what? Yeah, sorry, I don't mean to put my big old God thumb on the scale here. But when I was sort of plotting this all out, as I did, and then I sort of decided to let you all figure it out, I'd never, for the government that I figured we'd all end up establishing in this specific country in this specific time. And that's why I picked this woman who doesn't blink to sort of shepherd it, if you will. I figured she'd be a perfect little liaison. A supporter quote, we had women praying all day and night.
Starting point is 01:18:29 We asked God that if this thing was not in his plan that he would see that it was defeated. So, okay, let's say he's, let's say he is out on the ERA, right? So he's out on that. Why do you have to pray influence all night? What a fucking waste of your life. That's how it works. It's just like, what, you got to be like, all right, it's what he wants, but we must use the power. Please, please, if he doesn't hear it, if he doesn't hear it, pray once, leave a message,
Starting point is 01:19:03 he'll get it. Yeah, but it's like doing stand up online. Like you can't hear people laugh and you're like, I don't know, is it working? What am I doing? So now you're making it about Garefs, you son of a bitch. I am, very much so. Now, and ERA America begin using her grassroots tactics, but it's too late. Attacks on her increase and one guy actually hit her with a pie in the face.
Starting point is 01:19:29 You like baked goods, huh? I got a recipe. You're facing this pie. So they were now, you know, getting arrested and stuff that maybe they should have done before. I mean, who know, you can't go back in time, but Phyllis, of course, was not done and back to foreign affairs, she went. She now became concerned that handing over the Panama Canal was proof America was retreating as a global power and handing the world to the communists.
Starting point is 01:20:00 It's really gotten a little bit crazy, Dave. Now I talked to God and it's about the Panama Canal. What? Yeah, he might have been drinking. You know, the whole thing is the Panama Canal. This point's a big concern. Thank you, Lord. Good thing I prayed online.
Starting point is 01:20:16 You have answered your answer. God wanted us to dig a giant thing through the middle of the earth to get boats through. Yes, a whole concern is the boats at this point. The anti-ERA, anti-abortion wing and the Republican Party dominated the primaries and supported Reagan. Phyllis was on Reagan's defense policy advisory board during the election. Oh, good Lord. Once seen as a religious extremist, Phyllis is now the normal one and pro-ERA women are seen as the zealots.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Wow. Right, so this is when feminists became a dirty word, where it wasn't before. In 1981, she testified before a Senate committee investigating sexual harassment in the workplace. Oh, for fuck's sake. She made it about why women shouldn't be in the military. Oh, for fuck's sake. And how feminists were trying to outlaw motherhood. She said people making a big deal out of, quote, the problem of bosses pinching secretaries
Starting point is 01:21:23 while they promoted women being drafted was playing political games with a term sexual harassment. Oh my God. Who's pro-boss pinching? Go on. Mary Lou Retton, not a joke. And quote, non-criminal sexual harassment on the job is not a problem for the virtuous woman. Oh my God. Jesus, what?
Starting point is 01:21:53 That's amazing. I mean, holy fuck. It's your fault, obviously. Well, she comes from, she believes, I think. In teeth. Men can do whatever they want. Right. So a man is supposed to augul, pinch, grab, say shit.
Starting point is 01:22:12 That's okay because he's being a man and you're not supposed to take offense. Right. That's what these type of people believe. Yeah, yeah, you change. Yes, except in the rarest of cases. When a woman walks across the room, she speaks with a universal body language that most men intuitively understand. Men hardly ever ask sexual favors of women from whom the certain answer is no. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Finally, some sense. Yeah, for sure. Well, okay. Sorry, I misread that. This fucking piece of shit was brought to a fucking congressional hearing. Yeah. To fucking spout this garbage. She said it was actually about the chemistry that happens when men and women work together every day,
Starting point is 01:23:06 which has aphrodisiac effects. Oh, now she believes in science, huh? Well, I mean, I... Okay, when I go into work, I release a shitload of pheromones. Your work is podcasting with me and I've asked you to stop it. And I won't. Yeah, enough. I get it.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Quit bringing that jar with you. My pheromones. An actual sexual harassment is done by feminists because they want women out of the home. Oh, yeah. Well, that's totally... Yep, for sure. Bingo. Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:50 That's sexual harassment. Again, the fact that you can say that and everyone doesn't just laugh at me. Yeah, everyone's like, hear her out. Of course, she had a solution. Oh, no. Bread? Quote. The best thing you can do for mothers, fathers, singles, and children is to cut taxes.
Starting point is 01:24:12 What the fuck? It's un... I cannot fucking handle this. Are you fucking... What the fuck? Like, all right, go with your crazy shit, but now you're like, and I talk to God, easy. Listen, you need to cut some taxes for the 1% again. Really?
Starting point is 01:24:31 It's called trickle down. It works, I think. Please, please. It's not just cut taxes. It's cut taxes, cut spending, and let the great American private enterprise economy create the jobs and solve the problems which government is inherently incapable of solving. It's intertwining. I mean...
Starting point is 01:24:53 It's a cult. They are cult members. Nuts. Nuts. That's how you get to the... I mean... Yes. It is...
Starting point is 01:24:59 This is no different than you would hear someone in North Korea talking about that fucking guy. Kim, whatever. What's the guy's, the leaders? How dare you? Listen, what's his name? DeLong? DeLong. Sanchez?
Starting point is 01:25:18 Kim Jong-il. Kim Jong-il. But it's that, it's that amount of just brainwash and fucking gobbling good nonsense. No, that is one of the best things about this country is how we're like those poor North Koreans. And then they say shit like this, you can solve sexual harassment with tax cuts. I was like, man, we have to tell you the best country on earth. They're like, man, are you sure? Seems like it's not going great.
Starting point is 01:25:41 All right. An episode of Cagney and Lacey had been written with an anti-ERA leader who had mannerisms like Phyllis who received death threats, but then John Lennon was assassinated and there was an attempt on Reagan and CBS pulled the episode. Right. Damn it. Was that for the Reagan not... Okay. When the Surgeon General finally managed to put out an AIDS education program in 1986,
Starting point is 01:26:11 Phyllis was horrified. She said it seemed like it was edited by a gay task force and that he wanted to teach third graders the rules of safe sodomy. Oh, fuck sake. This is what they... This is the same shit as today. This is the same fucking shit. She was upset.
Starting point is 01:26:28 She now had to talk about condoms in public. They don't want to have to discuss it. Yeah, come in the lamp like our husbands. So they get to be victims. Like they... Now they're like, I'm the victim. I have to talk about condoms. I'm just like, people are dying of AIDS.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Yeah, but think about me. I know. It's very difficult on us. Now we have to talk about preventative measures. Phyllis did three minute radio commercials that aired on daily. Three minute daily. Can you imagine a three minute radio commercial? Jesus fucking Christ.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Also a couple more things. It's going to be a while. Turning the dial. I'm here too, motherfucker. Now listen, listen, listen. You know what AM radio is like? A dog could get a show on here. Now listen to me.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Listen to me. Three minutes daily on 600 stations. Oh fucks. She had a weekly call on radio show on education from 89 to 2016 on over 100 stations. I'm sorry. What? From when? From 89 to 2016?
Starting point is 01:27:35 She did weekly television commentaries on CNN from 80 to 83. She pushed for stronger anti-abortion stances in the GOP. She campaigned for H.W. Bush and when the issue of Willie Horton. Oh boy. A prisoner who had committed rape and murder while on furlough came to light. Phyllis made a documentary with interviews with Horton's victims and victims of other violent crimes while Massachusetts Governor Dukakis was in office. She said it showed, quote, how Dukakis was more compassionate toward murderers and rapists than their victims.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Soon after George H.W. Bush put out their insanely racist Willie Horton ad. So she's the fucking source of that shit. Wow. And that, I mean, that is like a. It's the most racist ad campaign in history. And start, I mean, really did sort of open it up to like, oh, we can do whatever the fuck we want. Yeah. Yeah. In 1994, Fred Schlafly died.
Starting point is 01:28:42 It's very fair. Phyllis moved to Ladoo. Ladoo? Ladoo? What just happened? Is that a bad place or did I say it wrong? Oh, money? Rich people?
Starting point is 01:28:57 We got a course she moved to where rich people are. Rich white people. That's where she's like. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,하, ha, ha, ha, ha, h, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, gated community. Yeah. So it's a St. Louis suburb. She remained involved in Republican politics in January, 2003, CPAC held a 3,000 person banquet to honor Phyllis as the confer conservative movements founding mother.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Oh fuck. Mother fucker. She was praised as a woman who opposed, quote, every evil that threatened our children. except the Catholic Church. In 2004, the Equal Marriage Debate inspired fellas to write her 19th book, The Supremacists, the Tyranny of Judges and How to Stop It, an argument about how unelected judges couldn't
Starting point is 01:29:53 have so much power. Of course, she supported Donald Trump. Oh, Jesus. Well, thankfully, she never got to see him elected, because she died of, I assume, very very painful, painful cancer, hopefully, on September 5, 2016, at the age of 92. Oh my god, 92.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Her gay son, John, was by her side. He is an attorney and a member of the Board of the Eagle Forum. Oh, fuck. And he said his mom never hated gay people. Oh, fuck. We remember he's gay, sir. Someone somewhere.
Starting point is 01:30:37 I was like, good, he's gay, remember, from before. I'm sure somewhere, somewhere, calls a Uncle John. Fuck, fuck. Another son, Andy, is a founder of Conservopedia. Conserva, what, for pedophiles? It's a Wikipedia for conservatives. Oh. You've never seen Conservopedia?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Oh, it's fucking crazy. Like, just go have a gander. You have no idea. And then another son, Roger, is just a full-on white nationalist. So they are still spreading. Eagle Forum is still alive and well. The day she died was the release of her final book,
Starting point is 01:31:09 The Conservative Case for Trump. Donald Trump spoke at her funeral. And I don't fucking have it here. But he goes up and he gives a thumbs up to everybody. And they're all clapping. He's like, it's great day, it's great day. Oh yeah, I got to talk about the lady. What a great day.
Starting point is 01:31:25 What a lovely open casket. So good to see her one last time. Shave her head and just stick it on mine. She's going to be cremated. Set it to 375 degrees. That's more of a bake, it's slow. I'm going to braise her nicely, falling off the bone, as good as it gets.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Make her into a stew. I guess I'll stop. Research was done by two women, Anne Momone and Charlotte George. Man, fucking A, man. The bibliography is fucking massive. But I'll say a few. Donald Critchlow, Phyllis Schlafly and the Grassroots
Starting point is 01:32:27 Conservatism, a Woman's Crusade. Eric Miller, Phyllis Schlafly's Positive Freedom, Liberation, Liberating Equal Rights Amendment. And then Carol Fessenthal, the sweetheart of the Silent Majority, Lynn LaPlante, Allaway, how Phyllis Schlafly turned me into a radical feminist lesbian over dinner. What? That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:33:00 What? So fucking good. She fucking almost turned me into a radical feminist lesbian fucking reading this shit. That's an amazing quote. In a dinner, fuck it, I'm in. We meet in the forest as soon as the sun shits by fire. Judith Warner, she changed America.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Tim Marchman, Phyllis Schlafly, finally croaks in dead spin. Jane O'Reilly, the night Phyllis Schlafly went over the rainbow and the baffler. There's a bunch more. I'll put them up online. Jillian Frank, Phyllis Schlafly's legacy of anti-gay activism, whatever. She's just a fucking, these are just all.
Starting point is 01:33:54 I think I get why you were angry to begin. I mean, I have always fucking hated her with a passion. And, you know, some people, if they had died, the world would be a better place. Like, if this person had gotten hit by a bus, we would all have a much better world. Or a bus. Or a very, very simple.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Yeah. So, you know, yeah, some people should not have lived. 92 is bullshit. She's a fucking terrible, terrible, terrible human being. Their ideas are so fucking backwards and stupid. It's like listening to monkeys chatter. You can't believe what they're fucking saying. And you can't retort it.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Because you're like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then they keep saying it. And you're like, what's, why am I in a board meeting talking about, I'm in a school board meeting talking about communism right now? What the fuck is happening? We have people in our fucking school district doing this. And when it's a very fucking liberal school district, and I had to
Starting point is 01:34:52 stand up in a school district board meeting and go, you know, people who talk about this like communism generally are fucking fascists. Like I'm saying that at a fucking board meeting. Because they are fucking fascists. It's crazy. And they're everywhere. And then you're in fucking school boards.
Starting point is 01:35:08 And they're trying to take over your school boards. So you got to fucking fight them at all these places. You got to fight them at the city council meeting. You got to fight them. Take over your fucking water board. Take over every little fucking thing. Because they are. So you got to fight them everywhere.
Starting point is 01:35:23 They're out of their fucking minds. Like Dave said, water board them. Like Dave just, you heard Dave, water board them. He's on record. Water board them. Thank you so much, St. Louis. We appreciate it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Thank you.

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