The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 585 - Peter Popoff
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One week since you looked at me,
twenty-five years in this area,
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Trajic?
If anybody's listening for the first time,
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finger. Wait, that camera pretty strong. July 2nd, 1946. Year of our Lord Jesus Christ known to the kids as J Town.
Hey, guess who is Jesus and a break dancer? Oh, that's right.
It's J Town.
Get the cardboard out.
Throw it on the sidewalk because J Town is coming in.
If it's for KJ Town.
Okay.
He's break dancing.
Peter pop off was born in Berlin.
I hope I'm saying his name right.
I didn't look how to say it.
Peter pop off.
Maybe I should look it up.
Sure.
I mean, I just assumed it was pop off.
I hope it is.
How is it spelled?
Like pop-off like you'd expect POP, O-F-F.
I mean, it's gotta be that, right?
Yeah.
Although you could see Peelving, it's poo-poof.
If it's poo-poof, that's their problem.
So this man is a German, because i feel like the last two episodes i really
i just did a lot of german i don't think i should do another
these question is
yep i got it right
peter pop-off was born in burlin and germany to parents george and garter
i'm got a to parents George and Garda. I'm Garda!
Yeah, I mean, it's a sexy name.
No.
George was a preacher.
He'd been religious since Easter Sunday in 1928.
That was when he was,
well, same thing. He was visited by Jesus as he walked home.
J. Town. J. Town came and visited. Yeah. So George was walking.
Popped up at the pop and lock. Yeah, the pop. What? Yeah, go keep going. Hurry. Hurry.
George was walking on a soccer field and he said he heard Jesus' footsteps.
On a field. And on a soccer field and he heard Jesus is a
heavy walker. People don't know that. But he's that's why
there's all that sand and footprint stuff. Well, he wears
boots. Jesus. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Heavy, heavy boots. And he's
got spurs on. I was going to say he probably has like
horseshoes. If you hear them like clomping along
Yeah, he's yeah, well there's horseshoes on the bottom of the boots
Interesting man were creating here Jesus. Oh, they think about Jesus. He always says I'm coming in loud
I'm coming in loud
So he hears Jesus footsteps on the Saga field and he turns and he sees a light.
And then Jesus said,
quote,
I choose you before you were born.
I chose you before you were born.
You shall be my servant.
Soon, an earthquake will come.
But do not be afraid because I will be with you.
Okay.
Gareth?
Yeah. Gareth?
Yeah, sorry. There was an earthquake that day.
No way.
Yes.
So, okay, one of two things happened.
Either this, well, either this is insane,
and this is just a crazy thing that happened
that Jesus was just like,
hey, I'm gonna make an earthquake later today.
You're the chosen one.
Or this didn't happen.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa't happen Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this clearly happened because there was an earthquake right
So big earthquake houses fall down and stuff
and but then you know he clearly has been spoken to by Jesus so his life has changed
So he starts he starts going to revivals after that and then he starts preaching and he goes to Bible college and
He is ordained at 19 and then soon after that starts performing miracles as you do that's the
Such as position you jump into miracles. Well
Healing and things of that nature. So sort of some Jim Jones stuff?
Well, Jim Jones is not real.
This guy's a real healer.
Pardon?
George, he heals.
He heals.
He founded churches in a bunch of different countries
and has one of the largest gospel churches in Germany.
And then Berlin falls during the war.
Really?
Talked to me a little more about that.
What's going on?
I don't know anything about that.
And then George says,
Communists came in close to church, the commies.
The commies came in, shut it down.
So now Peter is born
and George is preaching on the street
because he doesn't have a church anymore.
Sure.
And he says, one day, the KGB comes.
Oh, he's going to be like footsteps again.
The KGB grabs the whole family.
Puts them in a truck, drives them and delivers them
to the American headquarters, saying, quote,
Revolt Popoff. Sorry, did the truck go the whole distance
what do you mean the truck they they took him to like an embassy
yeah well that the the border area it's not an aquatic van is okay great
why did you think it was an aquatic but you think it's a
sound like they want to america for a minute sounded like for a minute they
went to a lot of you thought they drove to no I said headquarters. No you
My head
Absorbs stuff in a way that can be complex and difficult
Absorbs is maybe another right
Siphons
So the KGB said quote revered pop off, we don't need you anymore.
You are free to go.
As the KGB will do.
So they just kind of walk across, kind of bewildered is what's happening.
And Peter says quote, seconds later, we glance back to get a last look at the Soviet
officer. He was gone, vanished.
Are we, is this, is this KJC?
George said it was an angel and he started crying.
Okay. Okay.
And how old is, okay.
Oh, Peter's one.
Did you, that's why, that's why it's weird that Peter has this memory
because he's won.
That's strange.
It's a little, it's the, but the thing is with a story like this,
I'm only seeing one red flag.
Yeah.
Ha, ha, ha.
George said quote, God sent him to deliver us.
Praise God, praise God.
He wants us to go to America and build our ministry there.
So the KGB wasn't, it was, an angel presented as the KGB agent took George and family to
the American side, let them cross and then disappeared.
And that means that they're to go to America to start a ministry.
It all, it's seamless. disappeared and that means that they're to go to america to start a ministry at all
it's seamless
well it's just
i
personally i just hope that's what the kgb angel meant because it seems like
there's a lot of it is a little bit of figuring out going on but okay
there yeah there's some stuff that's not
there's some problematic areas a couple areas
so um... so they couldn't get a american they couldn't get to america right away because and the and and
and
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that he found a bottle with the news. George again is George is the father. What's
the kid's name? Father. Peter. Peter, okay. So George finds a bottle with a note in it.
And he takes it out. I didn't get a note out of a bottle, you smash it.
Yeah, you get a smash it, I think.
Okay.
And the notice from the whiskey bottle evangelist.
Boy, oh boy.
It's just, okay.
He's Dr. George Phillips,
who is a huge drunk evangelist in Montana.
See this, that's my kind of evangelist that I'm into.
Pretty evangelist.
Because so many people are, you know, they hide the drinking.
Yeah.
I think advertising.
You know?
We need into it.
Yeah, make it the feature.
It's a feature, not a bug.
And it's a white, little or a good Lord came.
Yeah, it is me.
We got, we are thought he died.
We are thought that Jesus was gone.
And that when he was gone,
and it wasn't even going to come back again.
But then, after three days, this motherfucker comes out from behind.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
He comes out from behind a rock.
And he's like, I'm sorry.
Did somebody order the greatest sequel of all time? because that's what I'm about to give you.
Wait. Open your Bible, page 65, so five, saw nine six and a dad's one two four.
Oh, promise.
Captives, logs, stargates, six five, one.
No. What?
Yeah, let's go from the top.
He's a big old boy.
He's a Jesus man.
He's a kind of guy.
He believes he can.
So he's like I said, he's drunk in Montana,
who is saved by the Lord.
And then he started putting tracks, I guess religious tracks, into old whiskey
bottles and throwing them in the ocean.
It's honestly sad.
And then George, so George finds the bottle in Germany and they're like, that's a miracle,
obviously, this guy.
Through a bottle in the ocean, I mean obviously didn't happen right or it did happen
Okay, so Peter quote it not only would have been impossible for a bottle to bob up the river
But to drift from the west coast of the US around the Cape of South America up and across the Atlantic to the North Sea up the Rhine
Then up the tributary the main
very so they're saying because it's of the North Sea up the Rhine, then up the tributary, the main.
Very tricky.
So they're saying because it's so impossible that would have happened.
It was America.
It was opposed to this is a crocus shit.
Yeah, it's Joseph's plates where people are like, that's insane.
That's so insane.
It's a miracle.
So months later, the pop-offs finally had for America. Nice.
They go to Ohio because their sponsors have been found for them.
And he immediately writes the whiskey bottle,
even jealous gentleman.
And he reads the letter and he invites them to Tacoma.
Uh, Tacoma Washington.
Sure you're going to tell me.
Ellis was there.
And by the way, when you go to Tacoma, you definitely think this is where a lot of religious
stuff's happening.
Absolutely.
In the city's a miracle.
Yes, really is.
Um, so he wants George to speak in his church.
Now, what no one thought of when he invited him
was that George, they, the whole family, speak German,
not English.
So four-year-old Peter explains what happened.
Quote, I'll never forget, now this is a four-year-old,
I'll never forget how the Holy Spirit came upon us.
Suddenly we were all speaking in a different language, English. We began praising the Lord,
like we had spoken English all our lives. Finally, finally, Dad stood up and began to preach.
To this day, people remembered that miracle and are still amazed.
Come on. After the meeting, people came up to us and wanted to talk, but we
couldn't understand what they said. God had given dead English only to preach the
gospel. Wow. Wow. This is. This is some weird wild stuff, man. This is straight out of the history book.
So he was, it's, but he didn't understand what he was saying,
or he did.
He was in the moment able to process his gospel.
Yeah, in the moment, he was able to say,
I was incredible.
I never thought of that song like that. And he was like, it's
like
so
Nushka plays
there are people in Germany who are so mad right now. Well listen,
Germans, tough shit. We've now you know what it was like now
yeah right you know how we all felt so so they remain in Tacoma and George
now just I guess he learns English because he's driving around preaching and one
day he picks up a hitchhiker,
and he recognizes it.
He recognizes the hitchhiker.
The hitchhiker recognizes it.
Girith?
No, another way around.
It's angel.
The KGB Angel.
Yes, I knew it.
It's the KGB Angel.
How are you?
Listen, I'm like a disguise angel.
Remember the saint? I'm like that, but an angel.
And then he vanished again.
What did he do? He was like, I'm actually just trying to go to this mall up here, hit get some subaro.
Angel's gotten sort of sad.
Yeah, he's just like you're on the right track.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Can you just drop me off at the target?
Yeah, actually, he took me to the Kmart.
I got to get some overalls.
I'm doing another angel think it's seven.
You know, I guess in retrospect, God should have just given me a car because I could try
come to you a little bit easier, but here we are.
Shit out of luck. I don't have any money.
It is weird. It is weird that I'm an XKG.
I can be a KGB agent and travel to different continents but can't get a car.
Anyway, I got a lot of bureaucracy.
Yeah, to get here, I had to blow the guy who dropped me off here.
So it's really God's plan is super strange.
It's awkward, but I've been in a truck stop
for four hours trying to get it right.
Anyway, just so hungry.
So George, sorry, Peter, when Peter's six,
he comes down with a very high fever.
I'm very cold.
I'm very cold.
Like, dangerously, could die.
Oh, it's amazing. He's gonna go meet him
During the night the room floods with light and
Jesus appears whoa the main the guy
And he tells Peter
He was now well
And he was going to be a preacher.
Quote, suddenly feeling good, I jumped and ran into my parents' room to tell them.
Sure.
And of course, they're thrilled.
Yeah. He's going to be like that. He's going to follow Dad's footsteps.
Just being a terrible liar. What?
The family moves to California, and when Peter's nine,
he gets hit by another terrible fever.
Hmm.
And the doctor's like, he's probably not gonna live.
The only thing that could cure him
would be if Jesus came to do it again.
Okay.
Peter said the angel of death came into his room.
How are you?
Hi. Hello. What's up? By the way, I just his room. How are you? Hi.
Hello.
What's up?
By the way, I just, what's you doing?
Heads up.
This is a bad sign.
Yeah.
If you see me, it's not good.
You see, I'm like, yeah.
I'm the closer.
Girith, Peter started to pray
and the angel of death vanished.
And in his place stood David Hasselhoff.
J Town. What? J Town? Jesus Christ. J Town. Hello.
Quote. He took my hand and pulled me up until I was standing on the bed. And J Town told
him to go. Let's have a pill of fire. All over the earth. Okay. And then he
disappeared. Man, just coming in and out. Just he's a cameo. The truth is he's a
busy guy. He can't, you know, maybe he's just like Jesus. You with the fever
again. Look, go everywhere and talk about me. I got to go. Yeah. Yeah, I got a
kid in a, in a, there's three other kids in this hospital that I need to do my stuff.
It's a very strange plan we've got, but we're getting it done.
So as soon as Jesus disappeared, Peter got out of his bed, he was healed. Febra gone, he's totally fine.
He said doctors examined him were absolutely amazed.
Wow.
So he goes home and he builds a pulpit in his yard. And that's where people
make orange juice, correct? That's where people make orange juice. And he starts doing
services in his yard. So kind of the back yard wrestling version of Christian. Of, yeah.
Mostly kids are coming because he's nine, right? But then adults start coming.
By the way, would be. Okay, for me, I'd be like,
I don't feel like this.
Nope.
Yeah, this is really weird.
I like my preacher's older and drunker.
Yeah.
Sometimes, George would take the family on the road
and he started bringing Peter up on stage.
And once in Wilmington,, Delaware he was preaching and all of
a sudden people started shouting and running around and they're throwing away their crutches
and the death can hear and the blind can see it's because of his it's because of Peter's
preaching.
Because he's carrying everybody out there.
Ailed.
It's.
Yeah.
Wow. everyone are there aildids. Yeah. At 14 he is traveling alone and holding meetings. He is
built as Miracle Boy Evangelist from behind the Iron Curtain. Wow. A lot of features to this guy.
It's a good name. It's catchy. Yeah. You remember it sexy. I I I'll tell you I haven't forgotten it already
Hmm
He takes correspondence courses for his education. He's traveling by Greyhound because he's 14 by dog
Wow, no the bus. Oh, okay better. Okay. Yeah
Yeah
At 16 he buys a car
at seventeen god it starts telling him that he needs to go back to you
eastern europe
i sent my angel to bring you out from communist land but i'm going to send you
back in
unfortunately my angel can't deliver this message anymore because a guy who
picked him up killed him
i was making him hitchhike to all of his miracle sessions
uh... yeah he got out of the car in the guy backed over him thinking just kept saying he's got
the guy didn't believe he was an angel so he tried to kill him and he ended up killing him
you can kill angels so
pretty sad.
So I got to do a lot more of this now since we lost him.
What happens when an angel dies?
He becomes a man.
That's a good question.
That's how we got Dr. Oz.
Hello.
So, he goes to Berlin.
He smuggles in Bibles.
Interesting.
What are you going to do?
You're just going to go there and do anything?
You cannot bring a Bible in.
I don't know exactly.
I just want to buy you.
We are propping up our own Bible economy.
You will display all of your Bibles when you come to visit.
And that way, it's like water bottles when you go to TSA.
This way, we've got more Bible money to play around with.
I just love the idea that they're selling the Bibles and they get there, supposed to just give them a few of them out of religious beliefs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very sure.
It's very pious.
Hey, we smuggle the imbibles.
It's gonna be like 500 for that.
Yeah, yeah.
What?
I thought you tried to spread the word of Jesus.
Well, yeah, yeah, but listen
Don't forget you can be pious and biased. So why don't you buy us some more of our Bible? Okay, there you go
That'll be 3999 but but I thought the whole thing about being a Christian is you're trying to spread the word
Yeah of Jesus Christ. I am
Oh, what am I?
What, what are you missing?
Well, why would just then you should give the Bible out
because you want to spread,
like I don't know why I would have to pay for it.
I wanna get,
not sure I'm understanding what you're proud,
these Bibles are $39.99.
Wait, no, why?
So how many do you need? I'm not in a special way you can get three for one ten.
These are unbelievable Bibles.
This is the sum of the best.
What?
How are they very bad?
You read them backwards, it says, Jesus is alive.
Whoa! And by the way way there's a couple hidden
Psalms.
What?
Yeah, unreleased.
One Psalms, unreleased.
Yeah, unreleased.
Yeah, couple, something that they were working on,
but they just were like, yeah, it doesn't fit the vibe.
So that's like, like what?
What?
Like what?
Like, yeah, like what? What? Like what? Like, yeah, like, like what?
If you ever heard of a
Psalm Sunday?
No.
Yeah, that's a good one.
How's that one go?
Ah, man, I'm, I'm, look, hey, I'm not, you want the milk,
you got it by the cow jack.
Okay.
It makes me think of that episode we did on the guy who stuck the Bible into North Korea.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, totally.
I mean, that's why I wonder, like, maybe you couldn't bring Bibles in.
Yeah, you probably.
Well, also, Germany was probably like...
I know they arrested me.
Germany was probably like, we just went through some major shit.
So we are really clamping down on any sort of cultist beliefs which is
no
will be what is what were listening to us
we're in a sensitive state there will be no more group meetings of any kind
three or more no
that's it
uh... so uh... so yes so he's smuggling the
Bible. When he comes back, he
enrolls in a community community
college in California and then he
goes to UC Santa Barbara. So Jesus
couldn't get him into a better, I
mean, I'm not shitting on community
college, but Stanford wasn't an
option. He didn't know. I mean, he's
he's not really, he went to correspondence
school for his high school education. So he's not really Stanford material. Dave, yeah,
you're living in the real world. I'm living in the realm where there are KGB angels hitchhiking.
Surely some strings can get pulled. It's fair. At UCSB joins a fraternity.
He doesn't really fit into the school because there's like a huge, it's like the late 60s.
There's a huge revolutionary, you know, atmosphere and, you know, all this stuff.
Let's play Blood Pong.
There's a protest.
They burned down the Bank of America there at UC Santa Barbara at the time.
National Guard called in.
So he's not really,
it's not really Peter's jam. In his third year, he does have a revelation though. Quote,
God had given me what the revolutionaries were ignorantly seeking. They chanted, we want freedom and we want it now. God gave that to him, Garith. He already had that. I'm sorry. I'm a little confused. He already
had freedom. What's happening? Garith, Christ gave him what the dirty hippies wanted,
freedom. I don't understand, but you seem passionate. He, the gave him gave half Peter freed his spirit. Okay, but he
wasn't free before that. No, he was a
child before that. No, what? Before God,
he found God. Oh, oh, you mean when he
was one? Yeah.
Okay, right.
Okay.
Peter often drives home to do radio broadcasts with his dad.
During one trip, he goes home.
He meets Elizabeth Armstrong.
And they start dating.
Now, they almost didn't make it past a day at the L.A. County Fair
because Peter wanted to go on a scary ride,
but she wouldn't go.
So Peter questioned whether or not she'd be brave enough
to cross the Russian border smuggling bibles
and they got into an argument at the fair,
because that's a good, I think that's,
but I think that's good, that's a good time to assess.
Well, she won't do the tilt Where she won't do the tilt world.
I wonder if she'll be okay with putting Bibles in her anus
to hide them.
I feel like she's not got the Constitution.
And she's just like, I just don't want to go on the ride.
Like, I don't know what this has to do with it.
It's not about the ride, it's about the pattern of how you feel about the ride. I don't know what this has to do with it. It's not about the ride, it's about the pattern
of how you feel about the ride.
You don't have the spirit.
You wouldn't fit in with the whole plan
of God's entire concept.
Don't you understand?
It's a very fact that you are saying no
to the tilt world is an indicating factor
that you do not have as a constitution, the guts.
You can't do large emissions.
Like it makes me like one of vomit, like I throw up.
It makes me sick, like I...
Of course it does, because your nerves are unable to understand exactly what we need from you.
And just think, in a hypothetical world,
you, instead of the tilt to world,
let's say we wanted to go on the ride
of where would you put 15 Bibles
inside of your offices if you were to cross a border illegally?
Have you seen that ride?
You must be this tall to enter.
Would you even be able to do that ride, darling?
Would you?
I don't think there's a person on Earth
that could put 15 Bibles in their ass. You're looking at one who has 15 Bible is inside of him right now
That's why I did that's why I got so sick on the tea cups. What
Why would you do that because I'm always in training
They would not allow us to take the Bible is that we sell for a very moderate price of 1399
And by the way the way I like to say that is $3,999! Okay.
What?
No, it's good.
I'm going to put them in my ass now.
I love you.
I love you.
Sorry, I lost my cool back there.
I've just, this whole day has been a test
So they got married in 1971
Two days later they leave on a tent crusade on a tent
Yeah, they going out tent revival you're right there hitting the yeah
Now Lee Liz has her big god moment and she has an in long beach yeah that's yeah that's shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh shhh her hand, her hands on the head. And the hand had like a, it was ghost-like, but visible. My name's Harry.
Eh.
Ah.
I haven't been outside in a couple of years.
I really like to touch heads.
What are we doing?
Are we gonna smash your head into something?
I'm just gonna break this.
Gonna break this, ladies, head.
How are we about to bust this woman's head?
One, two, two.
So, Lizah Cars is like, oh my God, it's Jesus
and a hunger for the Lord just overcomes Liz.
Sure.
So she's in.
Okay.
Bay make their first kid, Amy in 1974.
Through Saturday. They would go on to have two, yeah, the fucking and they would go on to have two boys.
Okay. Um, now the plan is to now smuggle Bibles into China.
Nice sketchy. Um, which also means George can, can join them because he couldn't do it in Eastern Europe because he was so well-known that he couldn't be a Bible smuggler.
How are they smuggling them? They're just putting them in suitcases? I don't know.
I never really looked that up. Because when I've seen on these smuggles
shows, the suitcases have fake backings and stuff like that. I just yeah
It's probably imagine
The idea of like being like looks like they got a false back on this bag
We're gonna cut it open and see what's in there that you just like are these
Bibles and what the fuck what are you guys doing? Sorry you cut us
The guy cut me up for life the guy cuts out a little bit of the page and puts it in his mouth.
No, it takes 100% of Bible.
Yeah, that's real.
So we're going to put a bit of the Bible in this tube here.
If this water turns green, then it is a Bible.
Next on Lockup Abroad.
So there I was. So, so yes, so George, George can go.
And Peter said when he went to communist countries,
people would come from all over to find him, quote,
one man traveled 5,000 miles because he
heard that I would have a Bible to give him Wow
So there are just no Bibles or they just want their Bible bullshit. This is a lie. This is absolute fucking nonsense
Our first lie
So they open a
Training Center for Bible smugglers in West Germany
Who wow training center for Bible smugglers in West Germany. Wow.
Alright.
Everyone, sit on your butt plugs. We're about to start.
Yeah, I've already online.
Okay, good. Yep.
But really, I want to open these up because we're cramming
Bibles in every little knocking cranny we could find. They are small. They are large books. Hard cover. Yep. So we haven't do it. We've got some
suitcases with the false packing. Right? Yeah. So you have those. We're looking to get
about six to seven to fifteen. And he's also inside of you.
No.
One good technique would be to put the Bible in a balloon.
Then you drink a bunch of castor oil.
And then you will swallow the Bible balloons and hold your tummy in.
And then when you get to the nation, go and you make a deposit a book deposit
so
My asshole is
I did full of footballs. Well, that's
Do I
Even wanna I love the game. Yeah, but you don't you can
Just to be clear you
You put balls illegal here, so why would you can just to be clear, you, you football's illegal here.
So why would you have all those?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So why would you, there's no point, I guess,
in, we're talking about, when we're talking about taking
bibles as a country, it's because they
cannot allow the Bible there, probably.
Yeah.
So football is not only legal here, it's very popular. So why would you put yeah?
So so popular is that I put I put lots of sums up in you up there
Yeah, I
Guess I'm still not sure on the logic of why they
Why would you do that? Yeah, because they you can buy them here
Why would you do that? Yeah.
Because you can buy them here.
I love the game.
Yes, so what is that doing as far as the love of your game?
You just do it because you enjoy the sport?
Yeah.
OK.
Well, would you?
No, no, no, no.
No, I have my own. I just, no, no, like, no, I have a,
I have my own. I just, for your safety, I would say, oh, no, no, I think,
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They I guess are the open a training center. They trained in 1978 they trained over a thousand people to smuggle bibles
But then it was infiltrated by commies who sent, quote, thugs according to Peter.
Right.
People who are like threatened people.
I'm at the point where I'm like starting to figure out what this episode is about and
it's about Bibles bubbling.
No, not really.
Okay.
I mean, that's really. Okay. Okay. I mean, that's part.
Okay.
In February 1979, Peter announced he was going to build a $1 million Bible Invasion
Center and Rancho Cucamonga, California.
An Invasion Center?
A three-story building with printing facilities, computer operations, a radio ministry, and a staff of 40.
To get Bibles out there in the places they need to be, Garrett.
From Rancho Cucamuga.
It doesn't seem like it ever happened, but that was the plan.
Another way Peter said he got Bibles in the comic countries was by dropping them into the Black Sea and north sea and letting them float ashore knowing that the flow to shore
we have people who know the currents
oh god that's like that is a trump club that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that We know which way the Bibles are flowing.
They also put Bibles and Gospel literature in eight-foot helium-filled balloons
and release them from Finland.
And what, they know the weather? They know the breeze?
Well, yeah, blows into the Soviet Union.
They release 700 balloons in two nights.
What?
With Bibles attached to them?
They believed inside, I think.
He-he-he-he-plast, fuck.
So it's like gender reveal?
Yeah.
The balloon.
Right.
The Bible.
Sure.
Balloon. It's a belief. They believe that the- from a distance, all the balloons would look like
a flock of birds, so no one would get freaked out.
Every, I mean, maybe they, maybe they don't know what birds look like.
What are we looking at over there?
It's, it's around birds.
Yeah.
I wonder, I wonder if just to me birds look like birds and those look like
balloons
Yeah, they around yeah, okay
You're doing that yeah, yeah, okay
So they just like the apparently the balloons they said landed the next day all over Russia.
It was never revealed how much the the Bible smuggling operation cost.
Oh, there's a lot.
I mean, I would be very curious to see the costs and success rate,
because my guess is these are very expensive Bibles.
Considering that you're just dropping hundreds
in the black Z.
And that's it.
So Peter is on the road preaching with his family a lot.
In 1982, he starts airing his revivals on TV.
He would put up like a uh... ask for a free book and he would send if
you if you gave your address right he he written books like demons on your door
step
love demons on your doorstep
oh so good the movie was on believe time hangs was so good
oh so good as dandy so good. As Danny Demon.
By the mid-80s, he was on 51 TV stations, 40 radio stations.
He spent $200,000 on mailers asking for donations.
He's now selling out arenas.
Oh, God.
This is the part where you just, you can't really,
there's no real way to get into the weeds of
how did this happen other than we are a very stupid country
people begin questioning some people are like well where's the Bible
smuggling where they going all the donations what's the cost and what's it
out loud saying that there is Bible smuggling, where are they going? All the donations? What's the cost and what's the going to be out loud saying that there is Bible smuggling? Yeah, he's getting, he's like, his whole thing is
like semi-donations and all smuggling preacher. Miracle 4%. Now, California law requires, if you,
if you solicit money for a very specific purpose, it has to be applied to that purpose.
But Peter's just putting it into an account.
Sure.
That's right.
So in 1985, someone breaks into Peter's headquarters
and soaks all the Bibles that are headed to Russia
with a fire hose and ruins them.
Well, holy water.
Peter, a crying Peter on camera breaks the news to his followers.
Okay.
He said, he and Liz would loan $500 to Jesus,
which they would put on a credit card.
What, sorry, they're're gonna loan Jesus $500?
They're gonna loan Jesus $500 on a credit card.
What does it even mean?
They're gonna give a loan to Jesus.
This is awkward.
You can pay it back when you pay it back.
I'm a little chance.
I get paid in two Fridays.
Yeah, I can't loan you money anymore, Jesus.
Like the last time I loaned you money, you like to...
I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand.
And I, the last thing I want to do is keep coming here
and asking you for a float again.
Bro, you're, you're like off turning water into wine
and I just hear all these fucking crazy ass stories.
I know, I know. And now you're like, can I get some these fucking crazy ass stories. I know.
I know.
And now you're like, can I get some more money?
I know.
I know.
I know.
There's a whole carpenter job that everyone's like looking for carpeters.
I know.
And you're hanging out with a bunch of bros.
You're like, roe, put it up in the desert.
And all I can say to you is that if I can just get $1,900, you're not going to hear
from me again.
What?
I just, I need it now.
It's a lot.
Well, it's two things.
One, I need to spread the word, and that
is not the cheapest thing to do.
And the other is, I just got so screwed on my car payment.
I ended up not cancelling my other payment.
This is what you said last time.
So for almost three months, I've been making two car payments. So you understand that that's crazy, right? Yeah, why would you do that?
I didn't realize I was still making the second payment. So $1900 would just go a long way with me right
now. I don't want to give you money. I don't want to ask for money. but you don't think that I'm good for it.
No. What do you mean?
Dude, all you do is hang out in the desert with a bunch of guys in Rome.
Yeah, we're going to make a TV show for MTV.
I keep telling you, look, my strategy has not been great.
I will be the first to admit that.
My message, top notch top notch my marketing dog shit
Okay, that you're not convincing me. I need the money now
We can do this the easy way or the hard way
The fuck does that mean Jesus? Don't make me do something. I don't want to do
What are you doing Jesus? I'm not gonna I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't want to do. What are you doing, Jesus? I'm not gonna...
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I shouldn't have threatened you.
You fucking threatened me, bro.
I shouldn't have said that. I'm so desperate.
I know, nobody's more upset at Jesus than Jesus.
You're the worst Jesus ever.
I am furious at you and me in that order.
Jesus Christ.
Yes, what?
I'm gonna come back tomorrow
when you've had some time to think.
Don't.
I'm not giving you any of that.
It's a tough love time.
I'm supposed to float out of here when I did that.
I'll just go this way.
Pfft!
So, yeah, Liz, they're gonna loan Jesus $500 and put it on the credit card.
Because if you loaned to Jesus, you got back abundance.
Like it comes back, you give to Jesus what comes back is amazing.
That's straightforward.
You give Jesus money and he miracles it up loan you loan
Jesus so he tells his followers to make a loan
And use their credit card if they need to quote I
Believe that some of you have something in land in cars in houses and your savings account
Money that you were going to use for something else, you're going to loan it to Jesus now.
And of course, you said it to him.
I was gonna say, that probably goes through.
It goes through him.
Yeah.
You go through Peter.
What he didn't say,
because he's crying during this.
Sure.
Right.
Because of the break-in.
What he didn't say is that the guy who's holding the camera Because he's crying during this. Sure. Right. Because of the break-in. Right.
What he didn't say is that the guy who's holding the camera
building him had just rubbed an onion on his face
to make him cry.
Because the break-in was Peter's idea.
Oh, my God.
One of his exacts paid a maintenance man and his friend,
$25 each to break in and ruin the
Bibles, but he gave him a key so they didn't break in. They just went through the door. And
then the next morning the exec exec came in and ransacked the place and then he was to
break the window to make it look like they broke in, but he threw a break against the
window and it was like made to not break. So it just didn't do anything.
It didn't make a whole big enough for a man.
The only way he could break the window
was by going inside and throwing the brick through
from the inside.
So all the broken glass linens on the outside.
Which is not how it works.
And in the broadcast, they show the window.
And it's like bulging out from the inside.
Look, it's really weird how they got in
super strange way vice works in mysterious ways is a miracle man
and and he had a camera guy rubbing on you on his face
yeah okay yes so Peter Peter showed viewers what the quote, Satan's and secular humanists had done.
Sure.
Quote, well, it really hurts to see Satan step in like this
and try to stop God's work in our tracks.
Yes, we did have some insurance,
but it will never make up for what we've lost at this moment.
And friends, time is of the essence.
What did you, like, again,
wouldn't you be like,
let's do this,
loaning Jesus $500 and Satan is just soaking Bibles,
like Satan, Satan,
the guy that you do not want to go to where he holds court.
This guy is,
that's what they call him,
your hero, Satan.
You're evil, awful,
that he just is like here, he's
like, let's make the bibles wet.
So thankfully, they had ordered new
glass for the window three days
before the break in. Wow. So
they are able to fix it really
good. What what what what what wow really
he
uh... unbelievable
uh... they send out a mailer about the van elizm that includes a water stained
peace of russian scripture
get people to mail in money
loan alone sorry loan to get people to mail in money. Lone.
Oh, loan.
Sorry, loan.
And loan is just the term they're using,
but what they mean is give.
Yeah, that's right.
So Peter had learned from his father to use ads.
As a preacher, George had put ads in, which is amazing claims.
In 1950, he had one that discussed his miraculous escape
after spending 21 days in his Soviet prison
with no food or water.
21 days without water, you're saying?
Yeah, yeah, you never heard of that?
That's totally doable.
I just feel like water, it comes into play a little earlier than, but no, you guys are
20.
But I'm, but I'm kind of looking at it in the old fashioned way of how science works.
This is different.
This is a mirror.
Yeah, this is, yeah, yeah, God was like, you don't need water.
Yeah, it's like like you're fine. In 1960, he advertised his trip to heaven, quote, here,
Dr. Pappov tell how he spent seven hours in heaven.
What? Oh, wait, is that the game when you're like an adolescent,
you go to closet with someone?
Seven hours in heaven.
I had a layover in heaven.
Seven hours in heaven. I had a layover in heaven.
I was going from LA to Connecticut
and I couldn't get a direct one.
Well, because of weather, because of the vehicle
of weather in Dubuque, I was, they took me,
I ended up going to the heaven's airport.
I don't even have a heaven's airport.
Unbelievable.
It's so good. it's so good.
It's so good.
The food is great.
You go through security so fast.
There's plenty of stalls.
It's just an unbelievable place.
It was really good.
It was really good.
Yeah, seven hours in heaven.
All right. Well, we're closing time to go.
The best most arbitrary. Seven hours.
So Peter did the same. He started putting ads in. He said he was born in a bombshelter in
Berlin and that he was an angel of God, whom ministered to the sick,
clandicured cancer, all that stuff.
At Revival's Peter dressed in a suit with as jet black hair combed back,
a journalist described his voice as one quote
that manages to be screeching,
nasi, and guttural at the same time.
Yeah, that's a horrendous combination.
It's all bad.
It's all the bad things about it.
After preaching, he'd let Jesus heal through him.
After preaching, he'd let him out.
So he'd give it to you and then he'd go and heal the sick.
Right.
He'd approach someone, and when he did did he would know their name, their address,
their illness, sometimes even their pet's name. How sparkle. So you're from Glendale, California, you're 42. Yes, I am 42. Yes. You have, oh, I'm sorry, you have rheumatism.
Yes, yes, very bad.
That's right, yes.
Yes, my hands.
And cancer.
Yes, yes.
And your dog's name, Jose?
Yes, yes, he's a...
Oh, wow!
Oh, there's nothing I can do for you.
This has been a depressing session.
Yeah, you know what?
I was gonna, and then the dog name came to me.
I think there's nothing wrong.
That's gonna racist.
There's nothing racist about it.
The dog came with the name.
So, the dog came with that name.
It's not what I'm getting.
Let me, let me, let me, let me,
let me get it.
Can we focus on the fact that I have arthritis and cancer
and that you could help that
The dog came the dog was gonna be euthanized and so it came with that name so I just kept it
I'm not doing arthritis and cancer today maybe tomorrow
I just want to be very clear that the dog came with that name so in no way is it a racist okay?
Well, that's that's fine now. why are you wearing a sombrero?
I just came from a sinko de Mayo.
And you have the, you have the drawn on,
yeah, the mustache.
Black mustache, the, yeah.
It's drawn on.
It's drawn on, yes, it's drawn on.
But the, but the, that sombrero came with the mustache.
The guy who sold me this emperor did the mustache.
It's not great.
It's fine. It's not great. It's fine.
It's really good.
OK, and let's get it out in the open.
I did a voice earlier.
It was like, it was that great.
But if speedy Gonzalez was even more racist.
Yes, but let me be very clear.
My friend is Mexican, and she didn't mind
when I did it around her.
I'm uncomfortable.
I am.
Can we stop talking?
Yes!
Absolutely.
You want me to do the voice?
No, I don't want to do the voice.
So he would order the devil out of the people and Yali is going to smite their
arthritis or cancer or whatever.
And then after the healing buckets would be passed around for people to put money in.
Buckets.
And then they make a ton of money.
They're making, they're making millions a month.
Wow.
People in the audience drop jewelry into his pockets as he walks by.
Oh my God. It's just we're so dumb. We're just like, okay, let's say you want to go to church
because of the Bible and because of your beliefs. Okay, this should be a gratis experience.
And let's say the Lord,
Doth communicate via you,
there at no point should money be entering this equation.
Yeah.
That's where you start going.
I think this might be bullshit.
Yeah, this seems awesome.
It's not where you go, hun, put your necklace
in his pocket, he's walking by.
People would slip in checks, they would put Rolex watches
in his pockets.
Like when I search after shows, people sometimes
will be like, it keep the change.
And I'm like, no, no, I'm like, it is a $10 or a Josep in.
And this guy's like, hey, whatever, I got five Rolexes.
I work for God, it's cool.
Uh, in back Liz, we put all the cash into suitcases, and then they would put them in
a limo and take them home.
Oh my gosh.
Mail was coming in in 200 pound sacks of day. Oh, you know, those are Santa numbers. Yeah.
So they live in the high life. They shop on rodeo drive. They're renting limos. They're eating at
the best restaurants. They buy a big, big house in Upland, California. Peter has four catalacts, they have a jewelry display room in the house.
An ex employee quote, it looks like a jeweler's store when you walk in, all the lights and
glass cabinets and all the gold bars, the silver and diamond collections.
And all that laid out like you walk into on Fifth Avenue.
Praise Jesus. I mean, it's just, yeah, it's absurd.
What is that guy's name?
He's the first Shothern one and he's got none of that.
Oh, such an O.
He's got that.
Yeah, yeah.
No, not Joel Austin.
Oh, not Joel Austin?
No, the guy who looks like he's more of like a puppet.
He's older and he's got that kind of like wrinkly face,
and he's been confronted a couple times by people
who are like, why do you need a private jet?
And he's like, because the Lord half made it.
So I must have a private plane.
They're like, well, yeah, but you know,
can't you just fly commercially?
He's like, no, because Jesus has to sat,
like he is no logic.
Yeah.
But Joel Austin also with like the,
there's some like dude who is like a plumber
and he was like, hey, there's $200,000 in your wall.
Yeah.
It's so crazy.
And he was just like, oh, it's just another miracle.
They had a steel armor plated vault uh... they bragged friends that two million
cash inside
and then
the committee for scientific examination of religion cser
decides to investigate peter i like this
it's led by james randy was a magician turned debunker. Hello,
ta da. Take six months. Didn't take that long. 60 volunteers. Okay. And they go to they go to
Peter's meetings in 10 cities. And they're posing as believers who need healing. And they would fill out healing cards with fake information.
Now, one of them arrives early and Liz interviews him about his ailments.
And as he would say to them, she would repeat them loudly and clearly.
She also did this as other people. Right. They also would fill out a little prayer card,
and then that would be more information for the pop-offs.
And then during the show, Peter would ask for volunteers
to help collect money to carry the buckets.
And one of the undercover guys did it,
so he'd get super close to Peter,
and that's when he noticed Peter at a little
device in his ear. So there's a revival coming up it's after Cisco and they
dress up a sound tech guy as a security guard and he goes in before and sets
up a scanner in the building. Oh, wow.
Oh, man.
And they start, and it takes them about an hour
to find the frequency that the pop-offs are using,
but he finds it.
And then he starts recording.
Liz has a hidden mic on her blouse.
And as Peter walks down the aisle, she would speak to it.
And she'd tell him where a woman was, what her name was,
her illness, her medications, that her son has a lump on his chest.
And if people arrived in a wheelchair who could not stand up physically,
they were put in an area that Peter would never
go to.
Right.
So these are the, right, the legit nonwalkers.
And then the pop-offs of rent, 30 wheelchairs and whatever town they went to and put audience
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The next city, he heals him of arthritis.
Now, he's in different disguises every time.
And he, even now, his nose will reattach.
He's so like, he plays it up.
And so his healings are broadcast on the TV show like one of
his broadcasts several times.
And then in Detroit, the guy goes and he dresses up as a woman who has uterine cancer.
And Liz is watching and talking, quote, Peter,
this one there has a beard,
looks like she has a beard.
Her name is Bernice Medicol.
She can't walk, doctors think she might have cancer
of the uterus.
Wait, she has a beard?
Yes, okay, because it's a guy.
Yeah, I'm aware.
He didn't, he didn't shave. That's so guy. Yeah, I'm aware he didn't he didn't chase that's so lazy
Maybe they were this guy was like look I'm gonna play a pirate at the next one. I feel like I'm gonna need
We just put some what do you think I'll just lift the dress up over my mouth?
What I mean maybe they were just trying to make it so absurd to see what I feel like that's bad okay whatever I can't believe she's like Peter this this the
the beard the woman with the beard there has a uterine problem and then Peter
heals her him her the idea that you're like and you're you to rent your cancer of the uterus is gone. Wow. Okay.
Like what? Okay. And then Liz as he stands up and he's healed Liz realizes
something's off. Liz quote, that's a woman. That's not a woman. Hey, isn't that
the isn't that the guy who was healed in anaheim p
that's the man who was in anaheim that you said had arthritis
the way he was let's go under the next get rid of them we don't like this
there's some some funny bunnies out there funny buddies while they're getting
like she can't even cost when it's like
you're you're you're been infiltrated your your church scams been
infiltrated all these funny but the funchicles sugar gosh started oh god
Lee Liz and another exec's wife Pam would often laugh at people once there
was a large breasted woman with cancer,
Liz quote,
Reeford's got a hot one laughter.
Hot one, hot off the press, Ruby, Ruby Lee,
she's got lumps in her breast.
Have her run up there.
Run, oh, look at her run.
Loud, loud laughter.
She's got knots in her breast, laughter and giggles. A home run, a home run.
Oh, good God. I mean, it's like the it is so depraved that you know, obviously like it's all
bullshit, but it is it is still surprising when you're like, yeah, it's not like they're like,
we sort of believe we are doing this in some way.
It's like, no, this is like,
not even a con.
Like a con and so disturbingly heartless
that these are genuinely ill people
and you're just giggling. Like you're so,
you have no humanity at all. Yeah, but which you know, but you know it's all a
ruse, but you do sort of think like, well, it is like, you know, there are
teachings within the religion that you think would maybe have seep through and they would be like,
oh, I really, I just hope the best for that woman.
You know, instead of like, look at those knackers, she's all lumpy.
Another time a guy had testicular cancer and had a melon-sized tumor.
I just the two women laughed so hard they had trouble talking to Peter on the
mic. Well, Liz quote, look at those balls. Wow, that's a record. Wow. Another
time Liz used the N word to describe a black woman in a wheelchair and told
Peter to quote, keep your hands off those tits. Jeez. So making, making fun of the sick is absolutely the norm.
It's just what they do.
And the investigators found life-sustaining drugs
in the trash after the show, because people would give
them medicine up because they're cured.
Insulin, nutric glycerin, all this stuff.
But no barbituates or tranquilizers as expected.
Because.
Just pointing out that the crew could have just taken them,
or they were taking them.
Also in the trash were checks for $10 and $15
because they were too small to deposit,
so they would just throw them away.
Man, I got probably seven checks a week ago
for one cent each.
I did too, I got 14 from Nick Swartzons Pretend Time.
You got 14 cents or one?
14 one cent checks from Pretend Time for writing.
I finally, I honestly deposited those for a long time,
but I was like, I'm not going to do
this.
I'm going to deposit them because I fucked this because otherwise they keep the money
here.
And all those ones sense add up and fuck them.
I know.
It's just like, if it's online bank, you see, like, am I actually taking a picture of this
check right now?
We just endorsed this seven times. But when I get
some that are for like three cents, I'm like, I'm doing that. Yeah, no, that's
a that's a key. That's worth my time.
So yeah, they're they're not great. On April 22nd, 1986, James Randy goes on the tonight show
with Johnny Carson and shows the videos of Peter
with the auto recordings they had taped on top.
Can I just say for a minute how great it is that we have
gotten away from the time when any of these people
would do anything controversial like this.
Like, can you imagine that pitch for the tonight show?
I know, right?
Oh yeah, this guy, but I'll be like,
actually, we're not looking to go in that direction.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Yeah, but they should.
Oh, for sure.
How great would it be if like on Jimmy Fallon,
some guy was like, we know where David miscavages wife is.
So, so he had taken his evidence of fraud to the US attorney,
who told the FBI and the postal inspector and the IRS,
but no one followed up.
So he went on Johnny Carson.
The next day, there's an emergency meeting at the Peter Popoff Evangelistic Association.
Why?
Many had not known about the earpiece and a bunch quit.
Oh, wow.
And then a statement was released.
Quote, everything amazing, Randy.
They called him amazing.
Randy is old, his old magician Wow
Everything amazing Randy has said is not true a preacher and amazing Randy having a miracle off
Everything amending amazing Randy said is not true. We were already considering a legal action
Peter pop off
uh... a v even jellistic association is being attacked
we would like to ask christians to pray concerning this attack
on all these christian organizations we believe
that god will not allow this attack on his ministry to continue yes but it's
weird that he allowed this first part too.
He probably should have gotten ahead of this,
considering he's all seeing, all knowing,
but we're sure he's going to step in and stop it at some point
shortly, for sure.
Some point because he's really testing this.
I know no way he would allow this part,
but we know that the second part will not stand
because he would be so pissed.
Ha, ha. part will not stand because he would be so pissed. The next day they claimed NBC had used a voice actress and faked the whole thing.
Ah, the death of that.
The death of that Peter admit admitted that Liz occasionally gave him the name of a person
everyone knew and no one believed he got the names from God.
This is total bullshit.
This did not happen in any way.
This is completely made up by the amazing Randy.
All right.
Now, look, we, the first parts out there, this is a lie and we know that God's going to
step in.
From time to time, I would have on earpiece so that part is okay okay
uh...
uh... uh... a pamper has been uh... left the operation months later saying they
found out it was a quote crooked and foul organization. But that made it up in the case because it may have been because Pam didn't get a ring.
After one meeting, Peter gave Liz a multi-carat diamond
and then he looked up and saw Pam's expression and told her he'd give her the next ring that he got.
Soon after, an old lady gave all of her jewelry and Peter sat
there looking through all the pieces while Pam stood waiting for her ring and then Peter
waved her off and said they'd talk later and never brought it up again.
Man, they're just, I mean, awful.
It's just, it's just straight up's just, they just criminal, they're just
just trying to criminal like that.
I mean, and that is like, you know,
it's yeah, the jewelry thing.
What, so you're just like,
fancers, okay.
Yeah.
Peter continues his meetings.
Some protesters are showing up.
He now is bringing Liz and the kids on stage.
And he's asking the audience.
Like when the politician has like an affair
and he's like, yes, my trustee will have Judy.
Well, she's like looking at us all.
And also so like, well, she can't be talking to me
on an earpiece because she is right here.
He asked the audience, quote,
is there anything in my ears as he walked through them? There's nothing between
them either. In August, in front of 4,000 people in Toronto, he said he needed
three million to send Bibles behind the iron curtain. And then at that same
show, he healed the woman who turned out to be from the magazine free and choir
He then published a piece to discredit
So he's getting hammered and a month later
He's getting hammered more than that preacher from Montana
A month later in San Bernardino he
He draws less than 100 people for revival. There we go
So he draws less than 100 people for a revival. There we go.
And after that meeting, he talked to a reporter
and said the healings were real, and James Randy had edited
the tapes.
Quote, yes, we were using a radio in that instance,
but it was for giving stage directions.
Randy twisted those tapes to pull the wall over you people
in the media. Remember, he's a magician.
We are dealing with the trickiest of tricky people.
Remember, this is a guy, remember, this is a guy who sawed a woman in half and
remember this is a guy who sought a woman in half and she lived to tell the tale this is a man who shows the inside of a bag that moments later he pulls a
bunny out of this is the same man who very opens his jacket doves fly out. I mean, you put it like that. It's really, it's
it's pretty. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't never thought about it.
They don't just call it rain.
For not musicians to. Yeah, no, he's a amazing.
Yeah, right. Yeah. So the wheels are coming off. Within a year, he's off TV.
Good. uh... so the wheels are coming off within a year he's off tv the station where he did is editing kicks him out for non-payment
sixteen months after the tonight's episode he files for bankrupts
the houses foreclosed on
pp ea shuts down
he fires tons.
Then he incorporates a new nonprofit company.
People united for Christ.
The PUFC.
With the boy. That's quite a name now.
All right, so you are going to beat the shit out of him.
And then you're also going to fight first one to tap or goes down to decision.
Ready? Go.
The P-O-F-C.
A reporter went to a revival in Phoenix in 1988.
It's in a high-residency conference room.
There's about 100 people.
It's the same.
Liz talked to Womera IV and Peter calls her out
during the show.
He heals her.
He's still collecting money to send Bibles to comic countries.
At that revival, he said God was going to tell him the name of the Antichrist and that
he knew other proficient, other, that's not proficient, that's the wrong word.
He knew other things like when World War III would start.
Like he knows, he's got predictions and...
Prognostications.
Yeah, sure, prognostications.
In 1992, a reporter for the Ottawa Citizen went to a revival and said things were turning around.
Okay.
Peter's back on some TV stations.
Jesus Christ.
But there's only 76 worshipers at the meeting
and the reporter talks to a woman who said
Peter sent her two letters a month asking for prayer offerings.
Quote, I pay because you can't expect a miracle for nothing.
I believe in him because he knew my name and knew I had diabetes bad.
Oh God.
Oh God. I mean, they are praying.
It's just with an E and not an A.
Take a second and think about...
No, I'm just kidding. Take a second and think about it. But I just think about it. And January 97, his dad dies.
There's no obituary.
When Chernobyl had happened in 1986,
a nearby priest said he had prayed,
and God turned water in a lake
into miracle water free of radiation
that was safe to drink.
Oh, God, damn it.
Oh, damn it.
Oh my god what an asshole.
What an asshole.
What?
That is horrendous.
Like they've radiated water to be like it's okay you're finally allowed to drink
this is actually as crazy as it sounds,
because Chernobyl you literally can see from over there
is still going.
You are actually allowed now to drink from this.
Excuse me for a second, but my father's eyes
have just fallen out in the pure leg.
Yes, it's like that's crazy, because this is pure God. He's got it God. He's evolving
Don't filter it for us. So this is I guess maybe after the miracle a couple more
Pits of radiation have dropped inside maybe
Garretty also said the lake had healing power. No jump in so don't only drink it go for a dip
Get in there, splash around.
OK, hey, anyone for Marco Polo?
In 2000, by 2001, Peter was giving vials of the water
to his followers.
Oh my god.
What?
What?
It's not the actual water.
Oh, OK.
It's not the actual water.
They actually just had a machine that created little patches of water when the patches came
from Costco that they filled up.
They're just making, you know, what a great time to be like, what a great time to be lied
to, you know, we're drinking Chernobyl Lake one. Now around 2000 Peter stopped targeting white people from the south and started buying air time on BET and other cable channels that catered to my norm.
Oh my God.
He would air 30 minute revivals and they would include testimonials from non-white people
and he also said he was now healing people
of their financial troubles.
Mainly me.
So he's just, he's making money again now.
He's now he's targeting the poor.
Yeah.
Like this is like, so evil.
That trajectory though, I feel like is trot. like I know herbal life. That is what herbal life did
Herbal life was like, you know, that's what they that's what happens. You're like, okay, they know
They know the deal now they figured we've got where are we not as known and we could start you know taking that money
He had a 100 number he gave out miracle Water and got people on his mailing list.
Quote, my wife and I just bought a brand new Cadillac and just six months ago, I didn't
know how we were going to pay our rent. So that's the kind of thing people are saying.
Oh, that's someone else. Yeah. Okay, I was like, he's saying that. He's like, boy, I know it's very crazy.
We have a fifth Cadillac.
He also is still doing faith healing and an infomercial.
He threw on an old woman, oh, through an old woman's crutches away.
Another one he said he cures a man of AIDS.
Cures a man of AIDS.
So donations are once again taking off.
In 2003, he makes $9.6 million.
In 2005, $24 million.
He moved to a 7,300 square foot home
owned by his church in very rich
Bradbury, California.
Bradbury's near me, it's like a crazy rich area
that no one knows about.
He drives a portion of Mercedes
and then two of his kids joined the business.
Of course.
They both have the gift, Gareth, to heal.
Yeah, of course.
It's genetic.
I like that it's genetic.
Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's passed on I like that it's genetic. Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
It's past all.
It's like werewolf.
Nick is an ordained minister.
There's also Amy.
Each gets a salary of 180,000.
By the way, if I was this kid,
I'd be like 180 thought you made $24 million last year.
I know.
I know that's so bad.
In 2006, the business merges with a small church in Texas called Word for the World.
Why?
Because churches are not required to submit taxes or register with the IRS.
So after 2005, there's no financial info
on Peter Popoff's merger.
What did that merger do?
Now he's a church.
Now he's an actual brick and mortar.
Okay, right, right.
Yeah.
So now he's tax free now, right?
Yeah, tax free.
And his home and offices tax free now right yeah tax free and his home and offices tax free nicks ranch
where he raises Clydesdale's is a tax-free in 2011 crystal Sanchez gets a job as a
donations processor for the P.U.F.C. she's very excited. She's been working for a bank dealing with charity stuff,
but you know, not the same. And now she can do that and serve God at the same time.
Yeah, it's perfect. For some reason, she very quickly becomes disillusioned.
She leaves after a year and publishes a book called The Real Truth Behind People United for Christ.
So it's housed in two big warehouse-like buildings,
and they call the company Breakroom the Chapel.
There's a wooden cross in the chapel,
and once a month Peter or his daughter Amy would come and hold chapel for 45 minutes
of there in town.
That's just the way to like play Kate, the workers to make them think.
Make them think I included.
The buildings, you can only get in by key card.
The windows are tinted.
The property is all covered with cameras and audio recorders.
There's no street address publicly known.
They don't want visitors.
Anyone who rings the bell is immediately met by security
and escorted off the property.
Occasional of follower could make it into the building.
And one day a woman came in the lobby wanting to speak to Peter. She
had sold her home and all of her belongings except what fit into her suitcase. She disowned
her family and she flew across the United States to meet Peter because only he understood
her. She had a stack of personally written letters from him
because that's what he sends out. They look like personally written letters. His
son Nick is the only one there. The only pop-off and he looked at her and said
quote, get her out of here. Get her on the next flight home.
on the next flight home. People would call at the time they'd call in and they'd just be sent to voicemail even
if they were suicidal.
If they did manage to get through to a human, they were given a suicide hotline and were
told they were praying for them.
Employees could not bring cell phones into the building.
It sounds like a cartel drug.
Yeah.
It sounds like Scientology.
Oh, yeah.
One day, Crystal snuck her phone into the bathroom
and sent a very quick private text.
And then when she got out of the bathroom,
she was immediately pulled aside and reprimanded. So the only way they could do that is they had cameras in the bathroom.
Oh my God. Oh my God. Who's got to review that footage? Anything? No, she's just taking
a shit. It's really horrible. Can you play that back? No. Put it on a loop. No loop it. We're not doing a poop loop for the last time and do
Overlay some corn the band. Oh, thank God you clarified
Employees were not we're told not to form friendships and we're not allowed to talk to each other what a religion
Sorry, what did you say?
No friends.
Don't like each other.
Do you understand?
If you spoke to someone you were warned,
it was so quiet you could hear a pin drop.
One day a woman fainted in the mail room
and an ambulance was called.
When one of the women
worked...
Oh boy. Sorry, Nick pop off said quote have them go have them go through the side door
I don't want them to see the construction so
a woman is collapsed he doesn't want the
he doesn't want the ambulance workers to see the construction yeah
so the one it's like a woman's collapse is like, oh my god, no, no, no, no, no.
Haven't taken the long way.
Other door.
Other door.
Other door.
While paramedics are working on the woman,
the other workers keep counting donations
as if nothing unusual is happening.
Wow.
I mean, that's so good.
Yeah, that's just shows you. I mean, mean that's so good. Yeah that's just shows you I mean but that's what happens
it's like you know the normalization of the insanity. It's like you look around you like is nobody
freaked out? You're like everyone else is counting money. Okay I guess that's what we're doing. I
want to see what this guy looks like real quick. They had about 70 employees in outgoing mail.
So they would just be there sending out money
asking for a good name.
Oh, I know this guy.
Yeah.
Wow, yeah.
He, I mean, he, talk about looking like the devil.
Yeah, it does.
I mean, he does look like the devil.
He looks like if like Bruce Campbell drank Chernobyl water.
So he probably, oh yeah.
So incoming mail is just full of cash. 20 women stacking cash coming in envelopes.
Her second day crystal counted $30,000.
If everyone there had made the same, that was $600,000
in a day.
Mailed.
Alumas truck came three days a week
to take away the cash.
Wow.
Wow.
Sometimes Peter would ask for gold and silver,
and people would mail it in, and then they would melt it down
and sell it.
Oh my God.
The letters they sent out use sophisticated psychological manipulation.
So they allowed Peter to detect who is naive or desperate enough.
And then further letters like deep in the psychological attachment to them.
Like that woman said, I feel like he's the only one who knows me.
So the recipient would become an active member in the process and more invested in him.
In 2016, Mark Openheimer investigated Peter for GQ.
The Miracle Water Operation had been outsourced to a new Jersey company and they were using
Poland Spring Water.
Yeah, like, how much, how much, how much miracle water you're looking to get?
We got a, what do you want?
All right, there you go.
Listen, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to buy Lita bottles of Poland Springs and that's what it is.
So Peter would send a 60-ounce bottle,
he had pre-blast, which would be mixed in to the water.
But that's not the same thing as the miracle lake water.
I mean, and his blessed water is like, cool.
Okay.
Awesome.
For years, Peter instructed people to drink the water.
His infomercials contained testimonials
of those blessed with miracles.
But in early, in 2019, or early 2020,
a notice appeared on the website, large red letters.
Note, do not ingest the miracle spring water.
Excuse me?
Do you mean the water you've been sending to everybody?
What is it?
The mailings just said now,
sprinkle the water on your wallet to increase your income.
Pour the water on your wallet.
But it's leather.
Yeah, it's miracle water.
It's like money grows.
It's grow.
It is like who knows what?
It's like what a child would be like,
okay, we got magic water.
What would you do to get more money?
You pour it on your money.
Okay, well, that's stupid, you're sick.
It's just so crazy that all,
like what the fuck happened to the water?
Oh, look, what are you,
we're not getting into what happened.
Just don't drink it.
Do you understand?
Do not drink the water.
It's like, when you go on a log ride, don't drink that water.
It's like bath.
Don't drink that water.
You ever drink your bath?
Don't do it.
It tastes bad.
Do not drink the water that's there.
Don't touch the water. You said before not drink the water that's there. Don't touch the water.
You said before to drink the water.
I know we were telling you for 20 years to drink the water.
Don't drink it anymore.
Yeah, it's long, baby.
Don't drink the water.
Did you drink it?
Why?
Yeah, I've been drinking it for years.
And I'd stop drinking it.
That's the last one I got.
Stop drinking it.
Why?
Because just trust us.
All I'm going to say is this,
do not acquire your miracle Chernobyl water
from a guy named Kenny in New Jersey.
He is not working in good faith
with the miracle water, okay?
I mean, I'd be able to think that it's not only not holy water, okay? I mean, the idea that it's not only not holy water, but it's like, you can't, this is not potable.
Do not drink it.
And then on top of that, like, you put it on your wallet.
No way, sprinkle on your wallet.
Look, don't touch it or look at it or drink it, but you can't pour it on your stuff.
You'll touch.
Today a question Peter says he used the listening device to keep in touch with
the TV crew and for convenience so he didn't have to carry around prayer cards.
So he still asked about it.
None of the recordings picked up Peter acting with the TV crew.
So that's just the lie.
The pop-offs fly to
every crusade in their private jet and book Presidential Suites and O'Telts.
Their security team is not allowed on their private jet. They have to fly
coach on a commercial airline and meet the pop-offs of their destination.
They travel the globe today taking their extended family on luxurious vacations and are making
shit loads of money.
The house in Bradbury was recently listed for sale in February for $8.2 million and
it's still available if you want it.
Okay so the source is James Randy, the faith healers,
Crystal Sanchez, the real truth bar
and people united for Christ.
Peter Pop out by in the curtain of darkness,
a new fire is blazing, and then, I mean,
a ton of articles that I will put up.
I was excited to hear the downfall.
And then, I it and, Mom,
and I did the research.
There's no, there's no downfall.
Where, who in America pays a price?
I mean, honestly, who, what Bernie,
Bernie Mannoff, because he fucked up with rich people, Elizabeth Holmes, because
she fucked up with rich people, who else pays a price?
Like how is this legal?
Like, look, I get it, religious.
But this is what we allow.
Like it's just like, yeah, okay, lift.
Like the idea of, like you cannot mix up
the idea of religious freedom and crime.
That is like, it is so, of the distinction there is so clear
that it's like, yeah.
You just, but it's, it happens out in the open all the time.
And it's just, I mean, again, we've talked about it
in a number of different ways. Like, you just, I mean, again, we've talked about it in a
number of different ways. Like, you know, if we were to just be like, we are a Christian podcast now,
and we do Bible stuff and whatever, we kind of tent, we like tone it in that way. And we start asking like because it's under the guise of God, it's just a lot easier to take advantage of people.
Just is.
Yeah.
And this is like on a level that's just and the no taxing.
It's the tax religion.
No, why?
Because he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he merged with a tiny church in Texas.
And because of God?
Like-
Because you really-
The IRS technically recognizes God-
Messengers.
I mean, that is fucking absurd.
I heard about a comic
who was trying to classify his standup as a religion.
So that he didn't have to pay. Oh my God. That's amazing. who was trying to classify his standup as a religion.
So that he didn't have to pay.
Oh my God, that's amazing.
It's just, I mean, but it is.
It's like, you know, we just are,
it is just ridiculous.
It's, but it's similar.
It's similar in the way that like, you know,
Republicans for a while have been able to be like,
where the part, like God picks us more than the Democrat.
Like, it's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, it's, it's just a fucking mess.
It's so disgusting.
It's just like the Joel Austin,
they're fine, a 200 grand in his wall.
I mean, these, these do have $30 million houses.
If you're convincing people, they're healed.
Yeah. And they're not healed.
And I assume some of them can go on to die
or have complications because they threw away the medication.
Why aren't you prosecuting those people?
Why the fuck wouldn't you?
Yeah. Yes, why? Yeah, yes, why would you not?
Murder.
I mean, he sent the, James Randy sent the info to the FBI,
the IRS, the postal service,
because he's doing it through the,
that's all illegal, the shitty's doing nothing.
Like you just get to get away with it in America.
Like it's just like, well, I mean, you know, whatever.
He's only hurting millions of people.
Well, and that is the business model of the country, so.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I just, it's horrendous.
It's also, it's like, I mean, you would just think
that the people who are getting taken advantage of would be like,
was it Jesus' message a little different?
I just, I mean, the shit you can say to just that people will buy it. Like everyone just fucking
they just believe it. They like this guy got caught. The whole thing fell apart. He went bankrupt.
You know, 10 years later, he's making $24 million. That's probably what I hate the most about
this country. The comeback. The comeback.
They're able to shake it off.
They all do.
James Baker, all of these guys, they get busted for all this shit.
They all just come back and they make millions of dollars.
Well, but it's not even just the religious ones.
It's just this country, you're just, you're never out.
We're just, it's just time.
You give it a minute, you're gonna be okay.
Yeah, and you don't have to give it a minute.
Like what's an end, Judy?
The woman who worked for the New York Times
who essentially lied everyone into the Iraq war.
Like, you know, she just went and got a job for conservative places
and she's still making tons of money.
Like you just don't, you know, like a Cuomo got fired from CNN
for the shit he was doing.
Now he's on another network.
Like you just don't, there's no, there's no one.
No one gets, it just never, the only people who do it,
except poor people, they go to jail and their lives are ruined
because they had a joint or if you're trying to call out the stuff you would go to jail for that
No, it is it's just the dumbest shit just it's just like
I don't look at Clarence Thomas. Yeah, yes fine. Don't find crush in it
Yeah, no, fine. What? Don't find, crushing it.
Yeah. No, I just, it's, you know, it's,
it's bad everywhere, but America really,
it's hard to hold a candle to how fucking dumb
everything here is.
Oh, it's so corrupt and stupid.
It's just next, like the idea, like I would say this to my dad the other day
it's like the way that people would be like like the Hunter Biden stuff and people like nobody goes
well it's not not nobody but you know people will just be like there will be like um
Ivanka Trump wait made way more money and you're just like great put them both let's go both of
them get them out of here what the fuck are you talking about not a contest
they're both awful get what fuck them excuse me I like hunter and let me say
nice penis okay well I think we're good I gotta go
Okay, well I think we're good. I gotta go.