The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 591 - Richard Jewell

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine bombing suspect Richard Jewell Tour Dates Redbubble Merch Sources   Mindbloom  

You're listening to the dollop on the all things comedy network this is an American history podcast work each week. I Dave Anthony read a story from America history to a guy with a hat who looks like a bonnet. It looks like he has a kind of a bonnet on it froze on me did you hear what I said no you look like you were you I said this guy it looks like he's wearing a bonnet it looks like you might have a bonnet you can see how you can even look more like that yeah uh Garrett Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about that's a little loud you go relax a little bit and just make it more conversational.

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Oh, no, we didn't. I forgot. Bloomington on the 7th of October and then we're in Chicago Madison and Milwaukee right after that. Dalapagas.com. Bam! All right, are you excited? No. So we're doing one that we previously did that got lost. No. So we're doing one that we previously did that got lost. Why did it get lost? Bad recording. Where was it? Where did we do it?

Was it Atlanta? Atlanta, yeah. December 17, 1962, year of our Lordy, he's increased the Alcinoan's J-Town. Yeah. By the way. Best friend, man, he's so great. I've come around. Right? Now that everybody's like, put, yeah, now best your best friend man. He's so great. I've come around right now that everybody's like put Yeah, now that everybody's shown pictures and yep, he said he's doing a lot of stuff. He's putting together a band

Deadlift and painting he did a lot of you really shown me the way he set off a lot of fireworks on the Fourth of July like Jesus Firework he was like running on the road shooting Roman candles of people like he was full He was one of those guys. It was like running on the road shooting Roman canals of people like he was he was one of those guys it was like four days of fireworks. He got arrested. Shirtless. He did it all shirtless. He got arrested. He got arrested. He was thrown in jail for four days. He's J. Town and to tell you what the kids love it more kids are finding Christ all the time because of it so it's good. Yeah, no, that's awesome. No, this turn has been normal and make sense and yep yep Richard white was born in denville Georgia

his mom right as mom bobby was an insurance claims coordinator and dad robert url worked for chevrolet nice love our people are happy to nice. Far from America. Far from America. Yeah. But Robert liked to have sex with other women, and so they divorced when Richard was four. She's one of those women who takes issue with that.

Oh, yeah, I don't know. You fucking other people. You don't play that. Cry baby stuff. Yeah. She's like your wife. I believeably rude about that. Yeah. Bobby then met John Jewel, and they got married, and then John adopted Richard, so hence the name Jewel.

So he's our Jewel, isn't he? Isn't he? Right. He's our little Jewel. Nope. Stop it. Richard was his mother. Richard's mom were very, very close, and and when he turned six they moved to Atlanta.

Hotlana as they call it. Down there. He wasn't really popular. He helped the teachers. And in high school he was the school. He's like a teacher helper kid. You know, I know. Yeah. And then in high school, he was the school crossing guard. So that's like, I never want to kiss a girl thing. Yeah. I think I told, I don't know if the thing about redoing any of these is I'm like, did I say this? But it's so weird.

The guy who I'm about did I say this but the it's so weird the guy who I'm about to tell the story about his brother came to my show two nights ago randomly and it was great to see him but his brother what his name was Andrew Seaman and as you can imagine when you were like in sixth grade and a new kid comes to school name Andrew Seaman bad That's bad. That's bad. Yeah. But his brother was the crossing guard. And his name was Chris. And in the yearbook, his name, because I think his middle name was like, Patrick or something, the name he had in the yearbook

was Chris P. Seaman. That's bad. Yeah. It's bad. And it was like, he was the crossing garden. So when I think of the type, I'm like, yeah, it's just, you know. It's him. Yeah, crispy.

Yeah. Yeah, it's not great. Yeah. So he's the crossing guard. He also ran the movie projector. He wanted to be an athlete, but he wasn't good enough to be an athlete, which is right there. It's 90% of people. One teacher said Richard was very genuine. A good kid and he was always willing to help. After high school, he enrolled in a technical school in

southern Georgia to become a mechanic Okay, but just three days in his adopted father skipped out on Bobby Quote, hmm he left the note saying that he was a failure and no good for us Okay, you buy you could do so much better if you're gonna do like a dear John Yeah, that's a bullshit. You can just be like yeah Yeah, like no it's me it's not you it's me it's me you can do so much better than me and you won't uh... so Richard moves back home

and uh... he gets work at a car repair shop and then when he's twenty two he gets a job as a mall clerk, sorry, a mail clerk, at the Small Business Association, the SBA, which you're very familiar with, and there he meets lawyer Watson Bryant, and they become friends. Okay. And at this point, Richard's dream now is to become a policeman. He really, really wants to be a cop. And all the lawyers really like Richard. They nicknamed him Radar after the mash character because he was efficient.

And I'm sure it definitely did with him not getting laid and being like a boy, right? Right. Sure. But let's pretend like it was for efficiency. Yeah, Watson said, quote, you could say, I'm hungry. Right? Right. Sure. But let's pretend like it was for efficiency. Yeah, Watson said, quote, you could say, I'm hungry and suddenly this kid would be by your side with a snickers bar. No, I said, I'm hungry.

But so it's like, and that's, and he's on his way to becoming a cop and he just, everyone likes him because he's kind of like a little, he does everything for people. Yeah. Kind of kissy assing. Yeah, this is very kissy assing. I mean, if you told me that if I said I'm hungry, a guy chose up a Snickers bar, I'd be like,

I don't know, I want you. It definitely, I think Snickers stole their campaign from this, by the way. From, yeah, I mean, it's actually- Hungry-wide way. Yeah. by the way from yeah I mean it's I'm going to wait yeah so Richard next gets a job as a Marriott house detective which is it someone stayed in this room which is a great show come on boys we're going in you just get the black light on oh

god oh god everything's come oh there's so much Chris P. Steven. There's so much Chris P. Steven. And I'm gonna get in every fucking world. What is- What is a Marriott detective? Yeah, I don't really have an answer with that one. I- What is- what are you possibly doing? Hey, because it's not- they're not saying security guard. They're saying house detective, so he must have-

So what, he shows up to solve like, if someone took hangers? Marriott crimes? I- Who doesn't make any sense? must have. So what he shows up to solve like if someone took hangers? Married crimes. I don't know. Doesn't make any sense. So after, uh, after he, I guess gets fired or finds a job in 1990, he's hired as a jailer in the Habersham County Sheriff's Office. So he's moving. So he just loves authority. He's getting closer. city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's a big city. He's

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Right. One night a couple was making too much noise in the hot tub, and he could front of them, and it led to a physical confrontation, Richard handcuffed the guy, and arrested him for drunk in public. Which is not a great, which is not great. Is he allowed to do that? It's an apartment building, so I don't think so. I think he's just a...

So what, it's just like it's own country to him? Well, he felt like he really wasn't charged with the apartment building. Sure. So that didn't go well with the local police and Richard ends up getting arrested for an impersonating an officer. Oh, my only wish is that it happened at the scene.

Like, why I was like, you have the right to remain silent. You have the right to an attorney and someone coughs him. It's just like, actually, you have the right to remain silent. You have the right to an attorney. You're not able to do that. So, phrase, you're under arrest, too. So, we got a double arresting. Can I still keep him arrested, though?

Yes. Since he's been placed under arrest, you can arrest him. Actually, an officer that you actually did not read the Miranda rights properly, therefore, you are also under arrest. Oh, shit. We have a congal line of arrests today at this apartment complex just outside the city of Atlanta. that? So he gets, so he, he hat at the time, the reason he gets arrested, because he has on a hat that says, have her some county sheriff, so he's wearing his, so he's making it look like he is, but he's not, he's impersonating an officer, but he probably just like to hat,

like, okay, but he gets arrested. So he worked, he worked for him as jailer, so he's not... He's a personating an officer. But he probably just liked the hat. Like, okay. But he gets arrested. So he worked, he worked for him as jailer. So he's like, well, it's my other job hat, whatever. So over 70 people in the apartment complex sign a petition in support of Richard. So people like him. He ends up pleading guilty to a misdemeanor and had to seek psychological counseling.

Right. Because he's a hot tub cop. That wasn't, you know what I mean? If you have a hot tub cop, that guy needs to go to counseling for sure. Yeah, yeah. Have you, did you ever see the, you didn't? But they, you remember that show, celebrity rehab?

Yeah. So there's one season where they had Gary Busy on and he wouldn't admit that he was a patient. He kept pretending like he worked for the staff to help other people and like and like they had to pull it aside be like Gary you are here for drug addiction too. But he would be going up to people and he'd just be like hey look we're trying to we're trying to make sure that you understand that we got to get you sober. We have to help you figure out You have a problem. You know, you have like cocaine on his nose and they be like Gary You're not allowed to do that. No, no, I'm helping shot him helping you. I'm trying to help you Sean

This is how we can't see here at the re-efficiency leverage That's amazing Richard Jules kind of like that's amazing. I'm your inside guy and they're like no, you're actually not a cop That was the thing Dr. Drew hosted, right? Yeah, yeah. But he went off as fucking rocker, huh? I don't know, great. Uh. Oh, my God.

So he, um, he still in 1991 was moved up to deputy from the jail, uh, in the jail department or whatever. So he graduates in the upper 25% of his police academy class and he's finally a cop. Okay. He gets engaged briefly that falls apart. He gave another woman a large wooden key with a sign that read, this is the key to unlock your heart.

That also didn't work out. Wait, he gave a woman a key, a big wooden key and then it had a sign on it. And the sign that said, this is the key to unlock your heart. Didn't work out. Yeah, it's not great. No, it's not great. He dated a local girl and became very close with her family. He has a lot of friends in town

When OJ was on trial Richard would hang out with other deputies and they talk about the trial and how the LAPD Fucked it all up. You can imagine Sure But things start to come apart on The job in 1995 he saw a car pulling out from my building and thought it looks suspicious. So he takes off after it. And he...

On foot? No, in his car. Oh, damn it. And he crashes the patrol car. OK, no problem. But the sheriff doesn't really believe that's what happened. And Sir Richard gets busted down to guard duty in the county jail and Previously he did not like working at the jail and so he quits

It's so strange to think of a time where like if you crashed your car like cops are like you're not fit for this Dude, I was in I was in Pittsburgh yesterday and I was standing in a parking lot and and Hey, what are you doing? And I go, I'm talking on the phone, and he goes, yeah, we'll get out of here. He goes, you're not allowed to be in this parking lot. I go, I'm not allowed to be in this parking lot. And he goes, not if you're gonna lean on my commander's car. I'm like, what? I guess I like, I like leaned on like this truck, like for a minute.

And I go, why does that mean I can't be in the parking lot? And he goes, because it's disrespectful. And I'm like, oh my god. And I was so close, but I just didn't leave. I just stood there and then he went back into his car. So I was just like, I was like, get a life. Oh, so good. So he gets fired. So that's, or quits, that's that.

So he gets a job at Peemont College. It's a liberal arts school, it's got about a thousand students. College police only have jurisdiction on campus, but Richard keeps. I like, I love the setup. I love the setup. I mean, that's just the given, right? It's like, like yeah, you just that's how it works. You're a college cop That's you have an area

But Richard keeps giving people speeding tickets on the highway He's like Elvis You have an audio while pulled you over you're on a golf cart He also keeps riding up really long detailed reports from minor incidents and suggesting undercover operations on campus. Wow. You know what? I can go. So you like spots like 21 Jump Street basically. Look, so I can go deep into dorm room 27.

What? And I'm going to, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to hang out in the closet. Closet. I'm gonna here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna hang out in the closet I'm gonna see what mean what they're up to because I hear a lot of noise in there I hear a lot of stuff going on. What kind of noise? So I had a noise. I had deep in I see what? Richard. Yeah, what kind of noise? What is the investigation? Probably drugs if there's noises drugs I Don't know if that's the case and again a lot of times when you sort of pitch yourself in these kind of cases it seems like you want to watch some of the the college students born a cave. Hold on. Hold on. We're

gonna speed around on the highway. I'll so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. like Richard Jules watching. So he worked on a volunteer rescue squad and was named Citizen of the Year also. Okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, he got something. I mean, there's some science here. So Piedmont.

Sure. Piedmont has a no drinking rule and Richard would tell the kids, quote, I know y'all are gonna drink, don't do it on campus. And then he starts raiding dorm rooms. Not okay, right? And busting them. No, you should never, if you're a can't rage, it should never be a raid in a gym. Drinking. Yeah. Drinking.

Drinking. Everybody on the floor. Well, by the way, if he wanted them to drink off campus, he's also trying to bust people off campus. Yeah. So it's kind of just like well dude you're everywhere yeah uh... so this makes them a lot of enemies and uh... the kids started a complaints that he asked Richard to resign and so Richard does. Now, okay. The Olympics are coming to Atlanta. So Richard moves in with Bobby and gets a job working security at the Centennial Olympic Park at the AT&T Pavilion. Now, Dave, as far as the Olympics go, you always, you're a big fan, right? Love the Olympics.

They're so great the way they bankrupt every city and bring in an authoritarian, draconian coppers. Why, why, why do we, why do we do them? Is it just because it is, I know we kind of covered this already, but is it purely because it is a scheme for these people to make money? Yeah, it is. Is it really is?

The Olympics are 100% agrift by a certain group of people. Number one, it's the people. The Olympic committee running it. They're making money and then also. It's like a world cup, but it's, yeah. Also the town in which it's coming like a Los Angeles There's a bunch of grifters taking money off the top. So it's just a giant grift Let's go and you think the Olympics will be happening here. You think that'll go through. It's they're not gonna

There's they're just absolutely not gonna stop them and it's gonna totally fuck over Los Angeles anyway Yeah So he like I said, moves him with Bobby. He's doing security at the Centennial Olympic Park, which does music shows. So anyone can go into the Olympic Park without a ticket. It's designed to be like a big hangout place. On Friday, July 26, Richard arrives at the Pavilion at 530 to start his 12-hour shift.

By the way, the Olympics are a horrible labor, like the way they treat workers. It's just like, you're getting the privilege of being part of the Olympics and then they don't pay him. Right. Right. Now, here's the problem with the 12-hour ship Richard has diarrhea and he's pretty sure he's pretty sure of some of Bad Burger. So his stomach cramps are getting worse.

You imagine like you being involved in a moment in time so important that people know you had burger diarrhea. Look, sir, sir, I need a break. I have what I would call Olympic diarrhea. Like, I have, I have, I have, I have meddling bowels right now. I tempi and it takes a break and he goes to the bathroom. And when he comes back, he sees a group of drunk kids near this bench. Uh-oh. And he tells them to leave. And as they do, he sees a large olive green military-style backpack out of the bench. So he reports it.

Then he and an officer clear a 25 foot square area on the backpack and Two GBI agents looked at the backpack and they see that it's a bomb a big bomb Like the main not like the kind Richard had been driving the stall. I'm sure Richard was like this is a different bomb than what I did My bomb was probably worse. At least this one has a clock on it. Mine just went ever at once. I mean, yeah, it's a clock, but a different kind of clock. The clock is like how long am I going?

I doesn't have wires you can cut. So the bomb goes off. Okay. Richard quote, it was hard to describe the sound. It was like what you hear in the movies it was like kaboom it smelled like a flash yeah he made the yeah it's really making it sound like he like went to it smelled like a flash made it smelled like the burger I had the day before all the shrapnel was inside the package kept flying around. It like got under the bowl and the seat, all the shrapnel. And some people, some of the people got hit from the bench and some with metal.

Okay. Okay. So the bomb, uh, it's sophisticated. It's lethal. There's a V shape to send the shrapnel in a specific direction. So it's fairly very well planned out. Sophisticated. But only one of the three shrapnel canisters blew because someone had moved the backpack a bit. So most of the shrapnel ends up going into the sky. So dodge the bullet. Sure unless you're birds. Right. If you're birds, you didn't dodge a bullet. You're dead. A bird, you just fly through the area.

Like, Gungad is a lot of holes. The V formation is, they're like, that's exactly how we do it. Yes. Okay, so the FBI takes over the investigation. And they start looking up suspects, including a guy who was called, quote, the drunk in the bar. That guy, so my dad was involved. He'd been making...

What was your dad's first name again? Mike. Okay. I'm doing a separate thing on the side here, so I just want to get that right. What do you mean? Huh? Go ahead. Okay, it just seems low.

He had been making junk threats the night before. Quickly word leaks to the FBI as a suspect. Lewis Free, director of the FBI, was personally monitoring everything, and there's a lot of pressure to catch the bomber because, you know, Olympics, there's a lot of pressure to catch the bomber because Olympics, it's a big deal. But when an FBI Atlanta agent tells free the junk guy was not the bomber, he loses a shit and belittles the agent.

Free quote was quote abusive condescending and dismissive of the agents in Atlanta. Okay. He's probably losing it because he had been going around FBI headquarters, crowing, quote, we have our man, but it was just a drunk kind of bar. Man, every institution and government works in the way that it's like your biggest fear. Yeah. The study's just like, well, all right, we can go four day weekend. It's almost like there's a bunch of people and they're all working and then at some point

they go, all right, well, let's give all this stuff to the head idiot. And then the head idiot does the head idiot thing. Yeah. So, free then handed the case to a former Cold War counterintelligence unit named division five that was trained in observation and rarely worked a criminal case. Definitely what that's where that's how it should go for sure. Give it to them the ones who have no clue how to do that. You guys don't know what to do here, right?

Absolutely not. So you're in boys. I need someone who thinks outside the box. It's either the drunk or Gorbachev. I knew it. I knew it. I said we have our guy. Now we have our guys. Yeah. They all see us in intimidation and manipulation instead of gathering evidence. Sure. Good. Good. Good. Good. So Watson Bryant comes home to a message from Richard. He said someone told them he might get a book deal. And Watson, as the lawyers, now doing real estate closings, but he does pro bono stuff for friends. And he calls Richard and said a book contracted sounds pretty far fetched but you know don't sign anything

about seeing him first. Far fetched because essentially he just saw a backpack under a bench. So that's not generally a book, I mean, that's a great page. I call it the backpack under the bench. Okay, so what's the... The Richard Jewel store. So what's the arc under the bench. OK, so what's the Richard Jewel store?

So what's the arc in the... Well, our main character, let's call him Ricky Jewel. OK. We start at him. He goes to, he goes to a water burger. And he gets a burger. And when he's sitting in his car and it's parked and he's thinking about eating it and he smells it

and it kind of smells off. It smells old, it has a sour sort of smell to it. But he's paid the $1.75. So he takes a bite and it is sour. But he's got to get to work because he is so far. I'm sorry. I'm just going to. So he eats the rest of it. Are we going to move on to the rest of it?

Okay, so this is a lot about the burger. I just the rest. Yeah, he eats the rest of it. Chapter two. What are you laughing about? No, not I just, I'm enjoying the, I'm just thinking about all the books we're going to sell. Oh, because I just want to need to sell it.

Oh boy. That it smells. It gets stink, do it. I want to talk about it. the books were going to sell because I just went to say how much oh boy how did it smell it gets stink to it I want to talk about it. So CNN really really wants an interview with Richard they made quote 20 or 30 calls and a lot of shoe leather to finally get him through AT&T. The AT& in the department i love that i love that because there's the olympics and then there's a theater kind of place right where they do and shows and at tt sponsors it

so a security guard c-bomb that goes off and now he has to deal through at tnt because they about like it's so stupid. It's so perfect. It's so perfect. Like what is AT&T doing here? Buddy, come on. They're there. They're the company. Don't you get it? Everything runs to the companies. So AT&T, the publicity department, sees an opportunity to get their brand out there using Richard.

They tell Richard to wear a security shirt with the AT&T logo on it. This is so stupid. Ah! Ah! This is just like, it is just like, when I'm driving everywhere right now, when you go to a gas pump and they're advertising

at the gas, you're like, how did we get here? It's shit like this. Yeah. It's shit like this where it's like, ooh, where at ATT shirt. So he's nervous, Richard's nervous. He doesn't think he's a hero. He just thinks he was doing his job.

And from the beginning, I'm just a guy who is short. From the beginning, the public sees Richard as like a hapless dummy, like a forest gump type of guy. He speaks low. He has a Southern accent. He's super, super accommodating, but he's also hard to like read. And the president of Piedmont College,, sees him on CNN, and calls the FBI hotline. And he's like, look, this guy loves the spotlight. He loves attention. And he said Richard's erratic and almost too excitable.

Which is what I get a lot. Yeah, no, yeah, for sure. Everyone thinks how about you. It's so strange okay it's a very it's a very strange call yeah well it's uh... it's a personal grudge call isn't right okay

on monday a friend of richards who was a gb i agent called and asked about the bombing and richard invites him over for dinner called and asked about the bombing and Richard invites him over for dinner. And they talk about the bombing and his friend, it turns out, is wearing a wire. And Richard talked about being on the today's show the next morning and Bobby asked him, sorry, he talked about being on the today's show the coming morning, he's going to be on there the next morning and bobby asked him to get tom broca's autograph because bobby loves tom broca like who who doesn't you know what i mean

it's tom broca like you want that autograph that's right for sure that's time for you to out who should i make this out here here's how i make this out bobby to your body to Bobby Bobby what happened You like us made after Bobby. What happened to Tom Broca? I'm sorry. There's just I want to make sure that I get them to him right today

He did but I did you did Tom Broca have a hair hair spot It's a stroke or something that he had there's been is a bad I've been through hell and bad my dear here is Bob I've been absolutely hell and bad do you know talk about it a lot it has been a long road but here I am all of all of the sudden all of the sudden, all of the soke, among the precipice

of a ridiculous comeback. There will be a lot of things, and I hope you seriously, seriously, homeroom. So, uh, after the day show, Richard gets back home to his mom's apartment and there's just a bunch of reporters outside. And one asks, quote, do you think you're a suspect and Richard laughs? As the day keeps going, more and more reporters are showing up and hanging out. And his boss calls and said the news is saying Richard is a suspect and he shouldn't come to work work what is it coming from why why that guy called the fb i

uh... the fb i always picks the wrong suspect like that's almost their job that feels like the more of winning a winner of the two and so and you know the head guy wants it don't want someone picked what even if even if you the FBI though you wouldn't want the press to know that right want your main suspect to know he's a suspect it's too big of a it's too big of a right yeah everybody wants this story we're actually actually all of us are reporting on it so two FBI agents knock on the door quote they told me they wanted me to come with them to headquarters to help them make

a training film to be used at Quantico. Richard didn't question it. It just sounded, yep, they're all law enforcement, right, all of them. And as they drive, they, four cars are following, which is a common FBI intimidation tactic, a bunch of cars. So he's interviewed on camera for the so-called training video, and after an hour, an agent gives Richard a waiver of his rights to side, and Richard knows that means

he's a suspect. So he calls Watson. But Watson is at Centennial Park waiting for Richard to come on duty. And then he sees the headline in the Atlantic journal constitution that said FBI suspects hero guard may have planted bomb. And all of a sudden Richard's face shows up the quote, you idiot, you are suspect, get your ass out of there now.

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Yeah, totally. This is my usual saying. That's one of my catchphrases. The catchphrase. Yeah. You idiot, get out of there now. They think you're a suspect. So the journal, the journal's become like a joke

in the newspaper business. It featured what the managing editor called, Chunklets. Mm-hmm. Newspaper, Newspaper. Yeah, for shark stories. Newspaper business. Talk, Chunklets.

Short bits of soft news. Yeah. You're listening to short bits of soft news. So dumb. your listening to short bitches off news uh... so dumb every i mean it's only worse but everything is so dumb uh... so done clinton uh... st use no unsourced news sources which led to like declarative senses which

are known in the business as the voice of god so with no references to source the paper seems like it was making all-knowing statements. So it's not saying like, and then so and so said, it's saying, it's just declarative. Right. So here's a, and now with the bombing, the journal wants to get in front of the story, right? It's their hometown, they're the paper.

And a police board gets a tip from a cop friend about Richard. But because of the voice of God's style, the journal makes a flat-out statement. Richard Jewel fits the profile of the lone bomber, the next paragraph. This profile generally includes a frustrated white man who is a former police officer member of the military or police want to be who seeks to become a hero

so that doesn't come out as like a bit of this guy's opinion that comes out is right total fact not an op-ed it's like an actual yes it's ridiculous yes so so across the country one of the two men who had developed the crime personality profiling that was used by the FBI is watching CNN and he said quote they were talking about an FBI profile of a hero bomber and I thought what FBI profile there's no such classification as the hero bomber.

It occurred to me that there was no database of any bomber who lived with his mother. Was a security guard and unmarried. None of it made sense to him. They hadn't even had enough time to come up with a profile. So they're making it up. So a guy said this to a police guy, whoever it is, said this to a reporter.

The reporter writes it up as fact in the journal, then they start saying it on all the news channels, but it's not based on anything. Some guy just said something, and now they're acting like it's an FBI profile, but it's not. Yeah. Also, the claim that Richard had no friends was completely wrong.

He had a ton of friends. It's also so stupid. It's so outside of... It's so scandalous. Yes, it is. First is like, you know, an attempt at like trying to actually do journalism. Yes.

A journal in turn published another story with a false headline quote Bomb suspect had sought limelight press interviews which he had not at all Seeing that it chased him down AT&T had wanted it to happen Actually, I had actually hired an autograph to his mother. Who are you? This is me. Tom Broca. Okay, because it seems.

And I had a written, a written reply to the autograph to his mother Bobby. Are you Tom Broca with like a bunch of like potatoes in your mouth? Because it's hard. I have a lot of trouble lately. Breathing? Yeah, it's talking and breathing.

I still am able to find a harder way after you. Bobby, you too. All right. But you are Tom Brookle. You're not some weird East Coast guy that lives near Lake. Yeah, you're Tom Brookle. OK. Tom Brookle.

Because it sounds like he might be up in. And it's the nightly news. It might, it sounds like he might be up in. And it's the nightly news. It might, it sounds like he might be up in Maine and you just don't see a lot of people and you walk around a lake. Yeah. No, I'm absolutely not anywhere near a body of water. Okay.

So 18T had also called the journal and all this is easy to verify, but that wasn't done. Right. uh... called the journal and so all this is easy to verify but that wasn't right at home Richard uh... was watching nbc with his mom and tom broke all said quote they probably have enough to arrest him right now probably enough to prosecute him but you always want to have enough to convict him as well there are still holes in this case

i mean it's like the second part is the part. Instead, there's terrible. It's so bad. I regret what I've done. Bobby's mom starts crying. More reporters come. The next, Bobby starts crying. The next morning, every paper in the country

except the New York Times paper in the country except the New York Times uh... runs with the security guard bomber story you know things are bad when the new york times is your like straight man the new york times is like look we actually think there's not enough to print uh... it's the olympic so there are,000 reporters in Atlanta. So this is the story. 40 FBI agents come to the apartment and they have a search warrant. Quote, they had all my pictures, all the stuff that was in the drawers, my personal things.

How would you like to know that 12 different guys had been in your underwear, laid it on the floor, probably walked on it, and then folded it back up like like nothing happened and put it in your drawer. Okay, just straight up. Confession. Yeah, that's that's that's that's I'm actually super into that. It's cares kink like that's I love when people do stomping on my underwear and then they put it away. Yeah, that to me is like that's hot. Sometimes just to get him going for a podcast, I'll go over to his house and I'll walk on his underwear and then we get going. Can you stop making that noise?

Sometimes I'll put, sometimes I'll put a big stack of them and I'll just kind of live in them and I call it a box or four. Richard was still a cop. He had read Georgia Law Code for fun in his spare time. I'm going to say that sentence again. He read Georgia Law Code for fun in his spare time. Now I want him to go to jail just for that.

If that is actually, what's a jail for being a weird little pussy? Quote. When they were searching my apartment, I was like, take everything, take the carpet. I am law enforcement. I am just like you guys. Take whatever you're going to take because this is going to prove that I didn't do anything.

Listen, we want the innocent man to remain free, but Jesus Christ. I mean, it's like, they're building a case where i'm like fine whatever do whatever he said a couple of them were looking at me like i was crazy yeah well yeah probably yeah sure uh... so what's in uh... goes on cnn for an interview and uh... the president of cnn asked the money thinks of their coverage

in what's in furious and he says quote who the hell are you and the rest of the media to make fun of how Richard Jewel and his mother live? Who are you to make fun of working people who live in a $470 a month apartment? Is there something wrong with that? Who are you to say that he is a weirdo because he lives with his mother? So it's amazing how long CNN has been malpracticing journalism and has just been allowed to live in that lane comfortably the entire time. Yeah, you know, because, you know, there's only a couple games in town.

At no point have they done, yeah, I mean, like Wolf Blitzer has been on air for so many travesties. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the situation room is just unbelievable. It's just the nightmare. So the media is just going nuts trying to find out anything they can about Richard. In the town he was born, Danville, they pour over. Tonight, we interview some of Richard's diarrhea. They pour over records. We interview some of Richard's diarrhea. They pour over records.

They find nothing there. The local paper headline was, quote, suspects linked to Danville still a mystery. Reporters, mused, quote, did Richard, Jewel, ever sleep here? The mayor held a press conference and reporters asked him whether the city could live down the infamy if Richard were charged for the bombing. And the mayor said, quote, if the man left Danville at age six, we could not be accused of having nurtured him. I don't think so, Danville, you're part of this. You're a terrorist. You know, you're like doing well when like a city's like, he's not

our fault. Yeah, he's not our guy. He here. We do some baby a city renounces you. Yeah The journal prints a story with the headline a bad man to cross on his beat And it's about his time at Piedmont College I was gonna say and it's all students talking shit and and it's all students talking shit. And Bobby and Richard just hold up in the apartment. A neighbor brought them a honey baked ham and they lived on ham omelettes for a few days. I just wanna put out there,

there's other stuff you can do with ham. Name one please. Sandwich. With an omelette? When you mean omelette bread no okay yes just ham and ham and bread like cheese tonight we interview the ham oh my god I got to go Richard is just watching CNN or he's watching movies outside. There's 200 media people.

Okay. They have a guy up on a hill with binoculars watching the apartment. And Richard sees that they have a high intensity zoom lens with a sound dish. And he thought that they could hear everything he's saying so they start writing stuff down if they didn't want anyone to know. FBI agents are sitting near the swimming pool in the complex and one time he goes out and he tells the agent quote I'm wearing a bright shirt so y'all can see me easier. So he's still a cop. Well, what he's trying to do is look,

whether or not this guy sucks, what he's trying to do is he's trying to show that he has done nothing by being like as open as he possibly can. And even though he sucks, it's still totally wrong and not okay to put a guy under a microscope when you really don't know anything yet. Right. So he's trying to just basically be like, guys, look, it's all good, I'm fine.

But it's like, yes, he's a kiss ass, but it's also like, well, he's like thinks that he's going to be put just, he's the main suspect in an Olympic bombing. Yeah, it's very complicated for me because he's a dick cop, right? He's the fucking dick. Like the shit he does, he's not, he's not, he doesn't sign the kind of guy, although it could be, that would shoot someone, he sounds like he just loves to be like the stern guy fucking, well, no alcohol, like I don't know how far he goes with

the other stuff, but he's. To be fair though, to be fair though, the shooting has become so much more, yeah, absolutely, and since then. He doesn't, he very, I guess, I guess I'm saying he doesn't strike me as the overtly violent type as much as the type who likes to be in charge of the room but he's the guy who like helps you cover up the shooting not do it that's right yeah and that's a nice guy and that would be who he would be yeah so so but I also feel bad for him because he's clearly just being railroaded here. So it's a complicated, it's a, yeah.

So he's trying to help him at the same time. So the phone is just ringing constantly. Someone had found his phone number and posted it online. So everybody's calling, they're getting 100 calls a day when... I'm gonna get your key boys. Howard Stern. Hello, yes, my name is, I'm actually the Olympic bomb. Hi. Hi. I was hoping to talk to my best friend, Richard Jules. Hi, bomb, this is Richard. Hi, who are you?

Hi. Yes, I'm gonna bring all my shoes and my glasses. Okay. I'm gonna put them in a big pic, then need the part. Can you tell the police who put you there? Yeah, and oh my god. I'm recording this. Buh if they walk out of the apartment, it's just, you know, a cameraman yelling of synodies

to get them to look over. Richard said they would yell, quote, you should both die. So they just want to get a picture of them upset. So that's what our media does. They're yelling stuff to get them mad. So the FBI comes down and take Palm Prince and a voice sample and hair samples.

And Watson is furious at this and he yells quote, I am his lawyer, you know you can have this. I know you have a search warrant, but I'll tell you this. If you were doing this to me, you would have a fight, you would have to fight me. You would have to beat the shit out of me. Okay, well they'd be happy to do that. Yeah, I think that's right. We'd actually rather that.

That's kind of our thing. That's awesome. That's awesome. Apologies if I you're guys. That's great. That's great. So the FBI comes, so they ask them to take a recording saying, quote, there is a bomb in Centennial Park, you have 30 minutes.

So Watson tells them to get out. He thought they could use it to falsify evidence. So the FBI leaks to the journal that Richard had parts of a fence that had been blown up in the explosion. So he took a souvenir. Sure. Which I, again, it's a little strange,

but it's not like he had pieces of the fence before the bombing. Yeah, no, it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, it means nothing. A reporter questions Watson and then misquotes him and said he confirmed Richard had a sample of the blown up bomb. So I just want to point out right now the media doesn't look great so far. The story of you can tell. The reporter would later apologize but obviously too late that story goes nationwide.

So now everyone thinks he has a sample the bomb. When asked about it the next day Watson said quote oh man it's not a bomb part. he has a sample of the bomb. When asked about it at the next day, Watson said, quote, oh, man, it's not a bomb part. It's a piece of the damn fence. So it had been given to Richard by other guards as a gift for doing a good job. Well, strange still, but again, it's like it's it's so what? Well, let me ask you a question. Your buddy, your buddy spotted a bomb. It blows up. Some people got hurt.

What do you get from his gift? What's your what's your gift? Oh, you know, pieces of the people are the fans. Yeah, right. Pieces of the people. What if you can't get pieces of the people because they're working on them? Just some of the debris.

Yeah, fence. Sign it like a get well soon people because they're working on them. Just some of the debris. Yeah. Sign it like a get-well soon card. Put a ribbon on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, put a little ribbon on it. Put it maybe put it on it like a top of a, like an ice cream cake or something. Yeah.

So Watson realizes that he's in way over his head. He doesn't have legal staff. He doesn't have any context in the press. He has no history in DC. So he calls, he calls't have any context in the press, he has no history in DC. So he calls, he calls the best criminal lawyer in the state who comes on board and has Richard take a lie detector test and he passes everything with the highest possible score. At this point, the criminal lawyer believes there was clearly no evidence against Richard and there isn't

uh... the local federal prosecutor was actually disturbed by how little evidence there was and he was the one who wanted Richard to take the polygraph it's a little some product the federal prosecutors like hey guys is doesn't look good uh... you actually have to know what nothing is this is nothing So he asked him to take the polygraph and and Watson and said no and the prosecutor assures Watson the conversation would not make its way to the press but

FBI Director free comes a town The press immediately reports Richard had refused to take the polygraph. So this is why Watson has to step aside because this is clearly free, right? This is the head fucking FBI guy who's fucking all this shit up. It's like policy to leak on this story. Yeah.

So on top of everything else, two of the bombing victims sue Richard. So he has to hire two more lawyers to deal with that. It's happening so fast. Yeah, it's happening really fast. Richard is getting annoyed that the press keeps describing him as overzealous. That's what his issue is.

But that's what he is. Like that's actually completely that. The one thing, the one thing that makes him mad is the one thing that's true. Yeah, is the. Yeah. And that is, it's also, it just shows you. It really is like, it's, he's such an anti-hero because here's just like, he's such an anti-hero because here's just like, he's totally getting fucked over

and I hate the media in this story, but then he is also just so unable to sit in the position of like I, it's very hard, he's a very unsympathetic yes character in his own right yeah yeah uh so he he considered I mean he's like the main suspect in an Olympic bombing and he's like you think I'm a little weird there you well he considered himself very detail-oriented so much so that when he watched movies he would pause the VCR to study props in the scene Ever by the way I just found the worst I just found the worst guy to watch movies with in the history of movies We pause it again positive again. Can you pause it again? Yes, what yes, what?

positive again. Can you pause it again? Yes, what? Yes, what? Hold on, I just want to hold on. I don't want to count. Richard, different vases. They're on in the back. Oh my God. Richard, I don't even know what's happening in the movie anymore. It hold on. Seven pictures. And look at the way they're kind of tilted. I feel like that light there, that light. Do you see that light that's reflecting off the side of that frame there? I feel like that's not an interior light. I feel like that's one of the grip lights. Then interesting. Okay. No. There's six magazines on the table, seven picture frames, and three vases. It's not interesting. Press play. Okay. Pause. So eighth frame. So he hated what everyone's saying about him.

He reads description of himself as like a man child, the mom's boy, I want to be cop. The New York Post had called him a quote, village Rambo and a fat jailed former sheriff's deputy. Jay Leno quote had. Hey, let me tell you, I hear the bad news, Richard Jewule character. He said he had a scary resemblance to the guy who whacked Nancy Carigan and asked

What is it about the Olympic Games that brings out big stupid fat guys? I just want to point out that that's a joke That's someone's that's J Leno's jokes age Real good. Yeah, Like Jaleno. Real good. Yeah. God damn. It's so fucked up.

It's like, I think maybe, like, we make fun of people, a shitload on this podcast, but it's like, we know what happened. The way that everyone's jumping down the throat of this story so immediately yeah and you can just picture that audience like pissing their pants laughing yeah yeah and what what do you do about the Olympic to bring that big guy dumb fat guy get it because it's the Olympics is that get it

because it's a physical impediment. Meanwhile making fun of his voice. Right. Yeah, there you go. Well done. The journal star columnist compared Richard to Atlanta serial killer Wayne Williams because he also lived with his mom. So the FBI then took their factless theories to a new level. Someone called in a warning

about the bomb at 12.58 a.m. and Richard was seen by many people next to the bomb at 12.57 a.m. so there was no way he could have walked to the phones four minutes away. Wait, what? What does that mean? Someone called in the bomb a minute after Richard was seen next to it, and they said it's a four-minute walk. So you can see there's a three-minute discrepancy. So the FBI is now going to theory that Richard was a copading homosexual and had been helped by his man lover. and had been helped by his man lover. Okay, so because the call happened so soon after, so they thought they had to be someone else involved and he could only be having gay sex with him.

Do you not understand the law? Oh my God, it is so dumb. I love that they got to this point and someone at the FBI was like, what if he was gay and Everyone's like holy shit So I don't know how we how do you how do you how do you uphold the media and these institutions? I don't know after the level of catastrophic

catastrophic fuck upery that has gone on my entire life that has gone on my entire life. Hold on. Leading to wars, leading to just endless death and shit. Just cat, and we still. Trump is the result of media. Like it's all media. And then you still have the media interviewing the FBI. Well, the best is now on CNN.

They have X FBI as paid analysts, which is like, you don't even need the media to ask the FBI anymore. They're right there to tell you. they have xfb i as paid analysts which is it's not uh... you don't even need the media to ask the fb i anymore they're right there to tell you uh... we got to get some paid idiots in here liars worse so the fb i thought Richard plant in the bomb and then is lover called nine one one with the warning

what is is this serious they seriously thought that? Do you know why? Because of the rumors the students had started at Piedmont. That he was gay. I know let me just say I never saw the Clint Eastwood movie. But this is a Cohen Brothers movie. It's a shame it was handled by someone like Clint Eastwood because this is actually a dark comedy that we're reading. You know what's that?

It's one Heather's type film. It's, you know what's funny is that my buddy is the guy who plays Richard Joule and all of the guy who played Galooki in the Tonya Harding movie. Yeah, so Jay Leno's joke it is like they did Oh, yeah, they got this guy Maybe that's how we got hired because someone remembered that and we're maybe he is amazing. Yeah, he's great. He's a great actor So that that's the going thing. In mid-August, three FBI agents questioned a video store employee who was a senior at Piedmont

and friends with Richard. Quote, they asked me if I was a homosexual, they asked me if I had access the internet. The grilling went on for an hour and a half and after being hounded for a while, he agreed to take a polygraph test, which he passed, and he was cleared. Wow. Are you gay? Are you gay? The number of times, and it's amazing, because this is, you know, 90, what is a 95?

Um, this is 96, yeah. This is 96, and it's still where it was in the 80s. It's still are you gay. Yeah, yeah. And if you're gay, you must be bad, right? And it will probably get back to that at some point Shit if it ever stopped. I mean, you know cop cops or cops Not that if you're listening you're a cop you're great. Let's see other ones kind of we like.

So meanwhile, Richard is a total wreck. He starts to get paranoid. If he watched a show. I don't know why. Oh yeah, I don't know why either. If he watched a show and a character is talking about blowing something up, he'd get where the FBI was listening and it would make him look guilty.

So he just starts watching cell-boppers and put on workout videos. Uh, he can't... This might be the worst part of the story that he has to sing home and just watch soap operas. He's just watching chas or size. Oh my god. Well, he's eating ham omeless. Just watching people work out.

He can't sleep, probably because of what's going on, but also because there's so many reporters outside with lights and sounds and the building manager is now threatening to kick them out of the building. The manager's son keeps taking pictures name online and finds 10,000 stories. This is three weeks in. Most journalists are super accusatory and they write like his guilt is already predetermined with there's no almost no exceptions to that it's just pretty much all journalists Richard drives up to the habit from county uh... drives up the habit from county to

visit his ex-girlfriends family for a break and three fb agents follow cars sorry not agents cars when he drives into town he sees white ribbons everywhere. The town had put them up to support him. And when he drives back he drives back with his buddy Dave. Dave was an extract driver. He has long hair and a panther tattoo on his forearm. Yeah. Well I don't know what else you're going do. Like, if I'm Dave, and I live in Georgia, that's what I'm doing.

Daves are cool. You gotta panther it up. That's like, you know? Yes. Yep, it's, yes. On the ride back there, there are no FBI cars. And then Richard realizes that's because he's being followed by a plane.

I was gonna say chopper. God, I didn't even realize he's being followed by a plane. He just figured it out. Jesus. Wow. And he loses it. Like, he can't fucking take it. He totally snaps.

It's trying to ditch a plane. This is actually really, it's hard. A week later, Dave, I don't know if you remember Dave, but he has long hair in a panther tattoo. Yeah, Yeah Panther Tech, cool guy. Coolest Dave I've heard a lot. Yeah, he's driving with his fiance to Tennessee when the cars surrounded by FBI agents and they take Dave and they grill him for hours. They think Dave is Richard's lover. Oh my God, it's crazy. So Dave decides to come clean.

He told them when he was younger, he and one of his friends set off pipe bombs. Quote, I told them he'd like to throw pipe bombs down gov'er holes when we lived on the West Virginia, which is just Saturday. That's just a Saturday. Yeah, that's every West Virginia kid. Watson talks a day on the Watson talks a day on the phone and he asked what happened. Quote, I hung up and I was thinking I cannot believe that I even know anyone who throws pipe bombs into go for holes.

Yeah, but that has for the I'm guessing the FBI is like this is a link. 100% Dave Dave taught him how to make pipe bombs because he was doing the crazy training at this at this age. I'm gonna say most of us were blowing shit up when we were young. Oh my god. I cannot explain to people it was genuinely worried. Yeah, no, I had M80s going off all the f- I was building shit constantly. Yes.

We were shooting Roman candles at each other. Dude, we would shoot Roman candles at each other constantly. Yeah. So, so he, so Watson also knows this is just going to drag out the investigation longer. and I told my used to make pipe onto the kid, why it's almost been like, God. Jesus. Are you fucking kidding me? It's so irrelevant, but no. So irrelevant. But no.

And then, you know, at this point, the FBI's going and talking to the kid, who the guy who was like, yeah, I did that when I was a kid. Like, it's, you know, the whole thing. I'm sure. Did you suck Richard Jules Dick? What? I don't even know who that is.

And yes. Oh, i don't even know who that is and yes uh... uh... so it's so the lawyers then decide bobby should hold a press conference during the democratic national convention which is but i think you should

she wants they want her to make a direct plea to President Clinton to end the nightmare that's going on. So she does it and she cries during the press conference and it works. She's super sympathetic. You know, tons of interview requests, there's a hundred calls a day is coming in. Oprah Winfrey, Sally, Jesse Raphael, TV producers, flowers are coming, baskets of Godiva chocolates, the

cheese and crackers from network people are sent. They all get sent to the lawyer's offices, and then the lawyers give them to a children's hospital. What a dumb. Yeah. Can we not find the middle ground where you just leave them alone?

Instead, you're getting edible arrangements from Sally Jessie Raphael. I mean, she cried. So once you cry, they're like, get her on Oprah! Oh my God. Do you know a valuable someone is who can cry on camera? I'm very. It's very valuable.

Whether the person's an actor or whether that person is a reality TV person. So, Attorney General Janorino had seen the press conference and she was moved and not happy about the FBI tactics. Director Free didn't want to let it go More than one agent thought Richard had done nothing and Richard's lawyers Agreed to let the FBI interview Richard to clear him and And Richard says he'll do it if the FBI would issue a public letter Clearing him if they're satisfied

So he goes to FBI headquarters on October 6th, and they have a whole list of questions. There are aerial photos of the park. They had an actual park bench in the room. I can't. I just... It's just so dumb. Like you hear? Yeah, it's just, like I... I like a set.

I like, I can't imagine working at the FBI. It's gotta be so hard because it's so fucking dumb. There's just so many dumb people. And... Yeah, but it's like when you're in the dumb club, it's like you're in a frat. I mean, you know, when you're in a frat and you're like making everybody drink beers out of dirty shoes, it becomes normalized. So when you're... It's like everything else. When you're there long enough, you're like,

yeah, but there's still, there's still going to be smart people going, well, this isn't what I thought. I didn't think there would be so many dumb people here. Yeah, but we've had this conversation before they don't last that long. No, they don't. They could they get out of there. They get out. They become, they do something else. It's said, because you're, you're just keeping, you're sitting there and some guys says, hey, we decided we're gonna make a park bench and in the interview and you're like, okay, so I'm quitting, because...

Yeah, well, it's even beyond that. It's when people are going like, I think the park bench actually, like when they're richer, joling the background and they're like, I think the park bench actually had an extra rung on the top there. So can we get that? Where you're just like, honestly, dude, do I need to give two weeks or how does

this work and I just like resign right now uh... so the park bench the questions are good just go on and on Richard very much wants them to know that he's not gay it's just so hethers also so one fb i read it's one FBI agent becomes irritated because Richard couldn't remember times He didn't know when he went to the bathroom Richard said he didn't walk around looking at us watch all the time quote when you have the runs You are not really concerned about what time it is you are concerned with getting to the bathroom I like that that sort of shot in the mission impossible.

Like, that's right, Mr. Hunt, like low angle, like where the guys like, what time did you go to the bathroom that time? And he's just like, when you have the runs, you don't keep track of what time you're going. No further questions. It's a six hour interview. As they walk out, the lawyer realizes the FBI has absolutely nothing. Nothing, because he didn't do it. Right. On October 26th, the Justice Department gave Richard a letter announcing he no longer was a suspect, barring the discovery of new evidence, but they did not put his name on it.

Dear sir, maybe dear sir. Yeah, what? To whom it may concern? A press conference was called for October 28th by his lawyers. This was the first time Richard would speak since getting the letter stating he was no longer a suspect. Sorry, I have a question. Oh no, who are you? This Han Broca, and the C9. With the potato mouth, Broca? It was a curious.

Any other than that. Potato? Potato? If I have a letter, simply because it has to hit me. It's hard. Well, we're on is that it's definitely that Richard's rule is not itself right you have a specific evidence of not a Richard's rule I was on break out and it's

in high point is on him is being long- uh... so he read a statement quote i hope and pray no one else is ever subjected to the pain or deal that i've gone through the authorities should keep in mind the rights of the citizens i think god it is ended and that you know what i have known all along i'm an innocent man as far as correcting their mistakes to the media, are you gay?

Louis Freese Chief of Staff said the FBI has no responsibility to correct information in the public domain. Why not? Why the fuck don't you? Yeah, what were you talking about? Why? Yeah, what are you?

What are you actually talking about? Oh, justice and then murky shit. What are you talking about, dude? They didn't offer an apology for their horrific investigation. Watson said, quote, they don't have the guts to apologize. The next day, the journal printed seven stories dissecting everything about the case, except the part where the journal started the media lynching. Always.

The lawyers said they would file damaged suits against NBC and the journal and others. And after the press conference, bookers from Good Morning America and the today show, pressured Richard to do interviews. Watson said no. The JMA Booker began to cry, quote, I'll lose my job. He said, you think, why do you want that job? God, it is amazing who like the race to the bottom of the toilet Olympics is unbelievable.

It, you never really know where to get the angriest because it's like those with power and fury eight but those that don't do their job to tell you what they're doing are kind of worse. The, the most abused people I've seen in Hollywood and obviously I've seen a lot because we see a lot of you know shows and stuff. The most abused people are talk show producers because they line from the Dr. Phil's to the people below them, and they are fucking tortured and abused human beings.

I worked with a woman who came back nine days after giving birth. Oh my God. Must be nice. Because she had to get the story to break. Watson asked Richard to talk to a USA reporter, USA Today reporter. Richard said, quote, they can all go suck wind. Bam.

Bam. Then Bobby said, quote, I would like to go home, put on my outfit and walk in the woods. Richard, we are leaving. She, Gareth, Gareth, she's putting on her woods walking outfit. That's what's going on. Well, it's time to get normal again. I'm not sure if she's just just put on a just an outfit

and she just when they go home an ape just starts putting clown makeup on see you all later when they get home there's an ABC van there and they got into an argument and threats were made Dave took his stun gun off his motorcycle and waved it at the ABC van nice they called Watson who told them to stay cool. Bobby was crying and yelled, quote, they are going to destroy me. The lawyers decide to cancel a plan trip to New York for TV appearances. The jewels are broken at this point. This should have been the best day for Richard, but it turns out to be the worst.

His notoriety had tainted the triumph. Everything positive was negative. Quote, I was in despair. So he stays in the apartment with his mom. As he did before, he was cleared. Watching himself lead the newscasts on all the networks. That night, Jay Leno apologizes

for calling Richard on the unidufus. Jay Leno, you should apologize for your shitty fucking jokes and sense of humor. You don't have to apologize for using names and calling people things. You have to apologize for the low denominator of humor you inflicted on the American people. Well, he also, I mean, the, like, it's amazing to have lived through some of the stuff and, you know, I mean, I was, I don't even know,

I was very young when the Monica Lewinsky thing went on but it was like, I mean, he was like calling her a whore. Yeah. And like, people were laughing and it's just like, do you, it's so weird. Do you remember? I always think about that. It was like Letterman, it Letterman ages so well.

Like, obviously he had behavior, like, there was stuff that like, but as far as like, what he was drilling, like he would have a Riley on his show and just like laugh at him and call him a clown and and like let know was like happily just like it's the same thing with Johnny Johnny Carson ages really well now he's a monster behind the scenes but Jay Leno does not age he didn't age at the time it was bad now fuck is comedy I know someone it was bad I know someone who's like a comedy development person and worked at NBC and they asked her to go watch the tonight show for a month and report back

and she went into meeting with all the big muckety mucks and they said tell us and she said it's terrible it's a really really bad unfunny television show and that heads just hung their heads and went yeah that's what we thought and she said, it's terrible. It's a really, really bad, unfunny television show, and that heads just hung their heads and went, yeah, that's what we thought. Well, you know what a lot of it was to, and you see this in stand-up a lot,

where laughing, if you laugh, it's like going people to think it's funny. It's like, why the laugh track was a thing. And there was a lot of that. There was a lot of him laughing with Kevin U-Banks and they were laughing and you were laughing at them laughing, which kind of is prompted. The other people who laugh at their stuff and they're breaking and that's funny. It's just like, no, what's funny is like comedy.

Is it funny? Does it stay on its own merit? Comedy is telling a joke and then sitting there and looking at the audience yeah and getting them to last without you prompting yeah totally 100 percent uh... so jaylenna said quote if jewel wins his lawsuit with mbc he will be my new boss this is the greatest week in trailer park history that's's Tully the J. Let us sent you humor right there.

Yeah, that same night on Crosifier Bill Press said quote, the guy was seen in a homemade bomb. The guy was seen with a homemade bomb at his home a few days before. CNN has to apologize the next day because that's blatantly un-fucking-true. On February 2nd, 1998, the FBI announced has to apologize the next day because that's blatantly unfucking true. On February 2, 1998, the FBI announced Eric Robert Rudolf, a Christian anti-abortion domestic terrorists was a suspect in the Olympic bombing.

In October, he was formally charged. Richard went about looking for a new job. He studied hand-riding analysis at the police academy, but no police force in the entire state would hire him. Which I'm okay with, I mean, honestly. He got a job in construction. The FBI had moved on to the theory that it was a member of a militia group. In December, the agency announced a $500,000 reward for anyone who could lead to the Olympic Park Bomber. A year later, Richard's life was one of torment. He went to an Atlanta Braves game

and a group taunted him and yelled, quote, are you going to blow up the new stadium, too? Richard was no longer the same guy. So many of his friends had talked to the press. He was angry and didn't trust anyone. Watson said, quote, he lost his innocence. He used to trust people. Now he's cynical and paranoid.

A few months later, he was offered a job by the chief of police in a small town in the Luther'sville. The chief believed in second chances and thought what happened to Richard was wrong. People in the town came to really like Richard. He was known to go out of his way to give people the

benefit of the doubt. He also said to choking baby's life during his first months on the job. Richard sued and maybe actually said in the Andy saved Jay Leno. I wonder if this actually

made him a better cop. Well, one would think, I mean, but you also could think that it would, you know, that it would make someone want revenge. I mean, it would go one of two ways. It would either make you a much more empathetic person or it would make you a much more callous person. I could see it going

either way Richard suit NBC and Pee Montgomery College Tom Brokos oh no we're about I just you guys just you guys hit us loss what did you say who are what do you lost it has heard that Richard Rural it seems like these jewels are I'm sorry I don't know why are we talking to an old guy a lot of vacant Maine. We're in a lot of hot water. OK. NBC is in a lot of hot water.

Abhung, Abhung, Abhung. His statement costs the network $500,000. Piedmont College, CNN in the New York Post, settled for undisclosed amounts. The Atlanta Journal Constitution, owned by Cox, was the only one to fight the lawsuit, Richard bought a house, and bought Bobby a condo. The rest of the money went back and is suing others. The phrase, the Jewel syndrome, now meant a rushed to judgment in newsrooms and first

amendment forums. The FBI's investigation became known as the Epidemi of False Accusation. The case became an investigative catastrophe revealing longtime resentments of many FBI career pros of a director of freeze style and attitude. The Office of Professional Responsibility conducted an investigation. Several agents gave sign statements insisting director free was responsible for oversight during the crisis. They were shocked that the director himself wasn't charged. Free sent an unusual memo to all 25,000 FBI personnel saying he

would not be stepping down and he wasn't fired clinton kept him on he was let go when bush came into office i mean you the idea the idea that bush was like uh... i don't think this guy's not good well this is a great one so he's a terrible terrible terrible fby director democrats don't fire them but Bush wants someone who's like, I need a guy that'll really fuck people up.

Like, you want someone worse than bad. Well, they always want their own fucking shit. Yeah. And if they keep the shit head, you know it's a really, really shitty shit head. You really shitty shit head. So Eric Rudolph is captured in 2003. He played guilty to the bombing.

Richard lived the life of a small town cop and got married in 2005, 2006. He received commendations from the governor who publicly thanked him on behalf of the state for saving lives at the Olympics. He died on August 29th, 2007 from complications due to diabetes. He had just been diagnosed six months before and had gone downhill rapidly. Sources, CNN, spokesman, Atlanta magazine, LA Times, New York Times, CNN, and Atlantic, the Lake, Lakeland Ledger. Yeah, I mean, we've kind of already touched on it. I mean, because obviously there's still stuff that always will surprise me because you don't

remember everything, but overall, I mean, it really is just, you know, it's the story of the feeding frenzy. It's the way that these places, they are bottom feeders. And, you know, they're held up as the authoritarians on, you know, they're the voice of reality, and they're just not. I mean, we've talked about it on, I think one of our Patreon things,

where it's just like, you know, this, they, these are the people right now leading the charge on what is happening with our climate. And all they'll do is tell you that it's really hot, and they won't bother to give you the reasons why it's why we're there. We're there. Yeah. Yeah, there's a story. And Wolf Blitzer has been doing this. Like, how do these people, and again, there's a story. And Wolf Blitzer has been doing this. Like, how do these people, and again, it's, they're just a wing of it. It's the politicians are fucking horrendous and we all know that.

But I almost am driven more insane by them because they have these tactics to make it seem like what they're telling you is crucial when it is completes, it is a business model based on selectivism that is another way to make money. And this is another good example. I mean, you know, Jay Leno, like, yeah, fuck that. That's bullshit, you know, but at least that guy is is supposed to be a big dumb clown. You know, these people who sit there at these fucking news desks with the graphics telling you what's important,

what's happening, what's a developing story, what's breaking news, you know, they're just so full of shit. They're just fucking actors. I mean, they really are just actors sitting there reading the scripts that corporations pay them to read. Yeah. And this is another prime example of that sort of bullshit. And it's also such classism here, like that's just not examined, but these are, you know, a bunch of Ivy League people working for these shitty networks, acting like they do something amazing and they're just fucking shitheads.

Yeah, and the FBI has this prestige to it where it's just like they are, you know, they are super important. I mean, it's, it's when, you know, the problem a lot of times is that, you know, you, like, you see these fucking people on the, like, the extreme lunatic right who are now saying, like, we need to get rid of the FBI and that then puts the liberal left on their heels going, like, get rid of the FBI, we need the FBI. And it's like, you know, you're not, that's fucking, you're fucking crazy. I mean, the idea that these places are really doing the bidding of us and our safety

is just totally fucking crazy. And it is. It's when you watch like the news networks and they have these who like when it says former FBI current CNN analyst, it's like don't listen to that fucking person. Yeah. You know, that's just how it should be. Our go-to should be to not trust the bullshit coming out of these fucking places. It's so frustrating. I'm on the road, I watch. I put CNN on all the time because it is comical. Comical.

I mean, I just remember, like I haven't, I don't watch it like every once every two years. I'll put it on. I definitely watched a lot of the Trump press conferences during COVID, but yeah. But it was, I don't watch it like every once every two years. I'll put it on. I definitely watched a lot of the Trump press conferences during COVID, but yeah, but it was, uh, I remember watching it. I hadn't seen it in years and also in the religious, like, six people sitting around talking and I'm like, what the fuck is this?

You just, you just had a bunch of rich people sitting around, like a bunch of rich journalists sitting around talking. They're totally distance from reality. They don't know reality at all. And it's, it's not like they're bringing on people who work in these, right? Whatever the story is about. They're not bringing in these experts outside.

It's their in-house people who are approved to tell you what they think, but what they think is approved. It's, I mean, when Noam Chomsky says to that guy when he's doing a press for manufacturing consent and the guy is just like, so you think that I'm like a liar and that I'm making stuff up and he's like, well, no, but he basically is like,

you wouldn't be sitting there unless you would give to it. Like, you're basically a pawn and the guy kind of has this recognition of like I'm upon Like you are just kind of a useful idiot, you know, you're useful idiot. Yeah Man, I mean Like I've said this before but you could do a podcast just on the FBI fuck ups like you you do hundreds of episodes on just I mean we did that we did the one about The Fort Dix five and there's yeah dozens of stories of them just framing

Muslim people for terrorism like they're just they're just the keystone cops were created Because nobody thought the cops were any good. And then after that came Dragnet and other shows, Coppaganda came and trained everybody to think that cops are actually smart and good. The reality is still keystone cops at the end of the day. Well, and it is, I mean, it is so alive and well now.

I mean, the Jack Ryan series or whatever, like we still do this whole thing where we're, you know, the Jack Ryan series or whatever. Like, we still do this whole thing where we're, you know, I mean, I grew up on it. I grew up like, you know, on movies, making me think that, oh, yeah, the bad guys are the guys with the drugs and the good guys are the guys who have the badges. You know, you grow up indoctrinated into so much shit

that it's really hard to break because it's, you know, it is infotainment. It is, it is, it's copaganda and that like, you know, that, that is really hard to shake out of. But like yesterday was a really good example when I'm standing in a fucking parking lot and a guy, a cop tells me I can't stand there. Yeah. It's just like, what are you doing? They really are just you know, they're supposed to have a better level of, they're supposed to de-escalate. They're supposed to-

And it's so funny to imagine that. They're supposed to de-escalate, but if you think about the job, then think about the people who are drawn to a job in which they can do- Yeah. And then I talk about bullies, right? So it's not that's not what happens. Yeah. Yes. No, it isn't. It is it is full. If you're if you're gonna if you're gonna make it to like, you know, the the chief of police, you've had to do a lot of fucked up. A lot of fucked up shit. All right. There you go. Well, we sign cars. Gobble, gobble. And cats. We sign cats also.