The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 597 - William A Clark - Live

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine copper king William H Clark. Recorded live in Las Vegas Tour Dates Redbubble Merch Sources   Mindbloom...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the dollop. This is an American history podcast where each week I Dave Anthony read a story from American history to a clown Garrett Thrennell just has no idea what the topic is gonna be about Should be about clowns fuck yeah Five history of clowns. Yeah, how the clowns get made. Yeah, how did they start Las Vegas? Why did they start Las Vegas? I would love to know that they were once a tribe Then the white man came yes and started killing clowns and the clowns were like we can work with you
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Starting point is 00:02:16 and use promo code dollop, take the first step and break free from your anxiety and depression with mindbloom mindbloom.com slash dollop and use promo code dollop. Yeah. January 18, 1939. You're a J Town shark. William Andrews Clark was born in a log cabin in Pennsylvania. Okay, great start. It's exciting.
Starting point is 00:02:51 What a crazy story so far. No one's heard that before. Wow, in a log cabin. A boy. Let me guess. He had brothers and sisters. They died. He did have at least one brother. I didn't put that in here because he gives a shit. Yeah His parents John and Mary were scotch Irish. Hmm That's right
Starting point is 00:03:17 He only went to school in the winter for three months. Yep. That's That's how you do it. That's why and they and I do that when I'm a kid and they call me a truant But education was important to the family so they say clearly yes So when he was 14 they sent him to Laurel Hill Academy. Great. Yeah the DeVosks school. Yeah But that was usually when farmboys ended their education. So that's when he was kind of starting So at 17 is so wait how old usually when farm boys ended their education. So that's when he was kind of starting. So at 17 is so- So wait, how old? Usually when kids turn 14 and they worked on a farm,
Starting point is 00:03:50 they'd be like, all right, that's enough of that shit. I agree with that. That's a change actually. It has, well, yeah, I mean, I'd say you're probably getting the amount of education, but just in nine months. Yeah. So at 17 is family moved to Iowa to be home stenters. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Now William wanted to go to Yale, but he decided to stay and work on the new farm. I said that too. I wanted to go to Yale, but I'm just gonna smoke weed next to his river with y'all. He he he he he he seems a little easier. But he did find time to do it. I was going to go to Yale, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:30 we should fucking try to get these frogs baked. Pfft. What? Yale was like, I'm ready to go to Yale, be a doctor. But then I was like, we should also get a bunch of fries. Have you seen been this river? Have you tried to grow weed and Rebecca's loft? Have you checked with Yale about that?
Starting point is 00:04:50 What do you mean? What do you mean? Have you asked Yale if they would want you to go there? They're going to want me, dude. What are you talking about? Why would they not want me? No, it's good. It's fine. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:05:03 No, I'm not talking about anything. Is that how it works? You got to talk to them. Bro, are you gonna hit the floor? I'm gonna die. I'm gonna... I'm going... So high! I'm your dad. Shit, be cool. Be cool. It's way past. Be cool. How can you read your thoughts? You're saying it out loud.
Starting point is 00:05:28 There's something a guy who is listening to me would say. Well, I should probably go back to Yale where I live. Dad. Jesus Christ, I'm so fucking embarrassed. Got it. Nailed his ass. So he also went to school, at the same time he was working on the farm, and then after he graduated, he became a teacher.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Okay. And he saved, and then he went to law school, and then, oh, Westlion, and then he went to law school and then, oh, Wesleyan and then graduated. When the Civil War broke out, William joined the Confederacy. All right, we've got our hero ladies and gentlemen. But he deserted the next year and joined a wagon train
Starting point is 00:06:18 headed for Colorado. Sure. He ended up in a central city. Really? Really? Really? Sir? What? Do you genuinely know about it? Fucking look at it. It looks like if Italy took a shit.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. I think he would before that picture popped up. Because that picture is... Not great. No. What should we do with all the lumber that we don't want to build the city with? Toss it in the streets, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Ha. We're going for like shit-room. Just, oh shit. We're going for like Paris, but dog shit. We're trying to do the circus, circus version. Ha. Hey, what are you doing? Don't take a dump inside!
Starting point is 00:07:07 Go scoop it out and throw it on the wall. We're painting the streets with it. I know the Quaintons helped him get a job working in a mine for $3 a day. Wow. Now, there was a gold strike in Idaho, so he headed there. That's, now what does that mean? Someone struck gold? Oh, yes. Okay, because it could also mean, like, it also sounds like, what does that mean? Someone struck gold?
Starting point is 00:07:25 Oh yes, it could also mean, like, it also sounds like, well, we're not going for gold. Oh no. We're on strike and people like, you misunderstood, there's a lot of gold. It's not. Scab! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 But he keeps going, he ends up in Bannock, Montana. So he and some other guys form a mining company, and they have some sex, some sex. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah! Hey, Todd, I found some gold inside a rolloas mine. Shall we pan it? Sorry, I'm thinking about you. I'm distracted about you. I'm distracted. Success. They had a bit of success for the claim, but then he realized that not a lot of guy's
Starting point is 00:08:16 track it rich with the gold points and the way to do it is to supply the miners. He started buying wagons and then he going get groceries from Salt Lake City and take him up to Virginia City and he'd sell them at just crazy high prices. Wow. A miner's salary was $4 a month and he charged $3 for a dozen eggs. Holy shit. That's that's like today's process. That's like imagine a time where eggs were ridiculously expensive for no reason other than someone's pure profiteering. I love when they looked into it and they were like, oh they have, there's no problem. They have all the chickens and eggs. The problem is
Starting point is 00:08:57 that we've spiked the prices and we're trying to find the culprit. Until then, it's gonna be a buck 50 an egg, everybody. Quote, I bought case after case. I knew they would be, these are the eggs. Sure. I bought case after case. I knew they would be frozen, but they were suitable for making Tom and Jerry's. Excuse me, what just happened?
Starting point is 00:09:19 You heard everything. I want to hear it all again. You heard every... He froze him? He's like a 50-year-old woman? I think... I don't know what my life will look like then. I'm freezing my eggs,
Starting point is 00:09:31 and then I'm gonna go sell them at an inflated price. Well, that's cool. I've been saving my cream. Never know. There you go, right into the filter, babe. You're gonna find this hard to believe, but there are places where outside it's really cold, and things freeze. So the eggs were frozen by the time it got somewhere?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, they're... All right, smart guy. Walk me through the Tom and Jerry. You're a dog! Walk me through the Tom and Jerry. Tom and Jerry was a drink that they enjoyed, that I looked it up and it looked kind of eggnoggy. So it's an eggy sort of drink. Sort of what I was pitching before. Yeah, but it's, but like you said,
Starting point is 00:10:12 it's winter so it's probably like a hot, you know, brandy. It's nice, a hot, right? Right. Whiskey in there, whatever. Whiskey and eggs. Yeah, like a, like a, like a... Like a... Like a... Yeah, like a scrambled egg man, Hettin'. Yeah. A tobacco shortage hits, right? And so William brings a wagonload of tobacco and he makes a ton of fucking money. And then he becomes a male contractor. He opens a store with another guy
Starting point is 00:10:41 and he's kind of rolling in it. I was gonna say, I think that's Williams, sir. Shh. You're not here to make fucking comments. I believe that your job is specifically that. You're just here to listen. No, no, no. You tried that podcast for six episodes.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Didn't fucking go well, didn't. Just some dude in a fucking closet like, and then my tyson, it went fine! Uh-huh. You know what? I think we need to take a hiatus while I do some rethinking. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha What were you doing? Kids birthday parties, but the point is, the point is. So William moves to dear lodge Montana and he sells supplies and he starts making loans. Okay. Now Goldust was used as currency, but it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Goldust? Goldust. Well, okay. But not easy to deal with, so each Sunday. It's breezy. Oh no. Hey, fuck. Oh, well, honey, we lost it all. There was a wind.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Look at all I'm... Oh, yeah. Yeah. So each Sunday, the miners are getting paid in Goldust, and Clark would stand right there and offer him cash to buy the Gold Dust. Okay, with a little cut, right? Sure. And then he started buying other businesses and he marries his childhood sweetheart, Catherine Stoffer.
Starting point is 00:12:16 He becomes president of a newly opened bank, so he's fucking moving up, right? Sure. By 1872 Gold starts drying up in butte. Now gold is still in quartz ore but you needed a mill. Quartz ore what? You son of a bitch. I got your ass. A lot of this podcast is him begging me to hit him.
Starting point is 00:12:42 guess is him begging me to hit him. So you needed a mill to process the quartz ore. Sure. Or well or well. So you just keep leaving this hanging. So William, by his quartz claims, very cheap because people are bailing. Sure. Pretty soon he owns four outright and has a part of 37. OK.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And then someone builds a mill, but then loses it to foreclosure. OK. Because he more like the foreclosure. There is nobody who nails or puns better than this shitbag. You will get your chance. Yeah. Yeah. Who nails or puns better than this shitbag? You will get your chance. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Because he has so much of the quartz that he's not going to let the mill use it, so he helps it go bankrupt. Right. And then he buys it and makes a fortune milling the ore because his claims double now that he owns the whole system. Right. claims double now that he owns the whole system. By 1877 he is the top dog in Montana. Irishman Marcus Daly then arrives in Butte to look at property owned by English brothers, the walkers. So the walkers bought a mine that Daly had recommended to him and then Daly
Starting point is 00:14:01 got to buy a fifth of it. A local called him, quote, uneducated. His grammar left much to be desired. Daily just kind of goes by his instincts while William is very educated and calculating. OK. Daily was also a big manipulator of people, and he has a really terrible temper. OK, nice.
Starting point is 00:14:22 So Daily's mind is called the Alice, and it's a really terrible temper. Okay, nice. So, Daily's Mine is called the Alice. And it's a huge silver producer. But he needs to build a smelter to deal with that. And that's when he finds out that William has bought up all the available water rights in the area. Nice. He's a resident. Yeah, he's a resident. He's rex-nicking. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:14:43 A smelter needs water, so daily is now furious, and he becomes an enemy of William, but he doesn't let William know that. That's not how it really, that's like an enemy. Yeah, that's the best. We all have other secret enemies. Yeah, no, not you. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I'm gonna cut you up. No, you have like 800 secret enemies. You're nuts. Yeah, that guy's on your shit, yeah, not you. Yeah. No. I'm going to cut you up. No, you have like 800 secret enemies. You're nuts. Yeah, that guy's on your shit. Yeah, sir, I don't know what you did. Look at yours. I mean, you're secret enemy. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He's asleep. Let me walk you through. Let me walk you through. He's on, he woke up. Let me walk you through the trajectory of this so far. Texting. loud, sleeping, backup. What a ride. And we are what? Half hour? If that.
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's like nuts. It's like, it's like the life of like a little fake pet or something like that. It's like, what's like the life of a little fake pet or something like that. It's like, what a ferbied did. You're like, man, this fucking thing packed in a half hour, holy shit. What a ride. Now it's a sleep, what now it's up. It wants to get fed? I got a fuck it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 What's happening over here? So he's got all the water rights and now he's his enemy, but he doesn't know it, right? So daily is notorious for saying very little in public in letting others kind of deal with shit. Sure. He finds another mind called the Anaconda and he's like, this is the fucking mind. Sure. And he knows William Randolph Hurst and his partner James Hagin and so he contacts them and they're in. So they buy the mind together and daily also gets a
Starting point is 00:16:34 share. He sells out, he sells this part in the Alice and jumps over this one. Okay. So in 1882 it produces the richest single deposit of copper ever. It's fifty feet wide in the anaconda copper company is formed now daily and william they're now two of montana's copper kings uh... and william is now like a big political mover and shaker he's getting
Starting point is 00:17:02 all the you know higher up but it's rich he's rich yeah that's what happens yes yeah it's like he took an interest in politics you mean he tried to control government for his own benefit exactly yes so the democrats want him to be a delegate to congress of course he's so rich but he doesn't want to until Montana's officially a state and then he wants to be a senator. Wow. Imagine waiting out statehood. Once Montana's a state I'll run, Jesus Christ. Well, that's what Diane Feinstein did. Oh, stop it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 She was our first senator. I'm going to wait until California's not just a territory, but to fine. Until then, it'll be fox-trotting, box-stepping, and molt-seeping. I'm 91! Yes, I know, I know, I know, I know. I'm 91, and I'm in charge of so much shit. I know. Is it that crazy?
Starting point is 00:18:05 I know. And then if you ask why, you're the prick. Yes. I haven't been in the restroom for over a decade. Waste is taken from me and then tossed. Like a... Ah. Like an animal? Yes. I'm the color of bleach. Can you believe they put makeup on me and that fucking crazy? I'm back. Yes, you're back. Better than ever.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah, no, I could talk. I can tell you. What are you? Yes, you're back. Better than ever. Yeah, no, I could talk. Who am I? I could tell you. You could tell you, you can't know. What are you? Yes, you're in the same. When I was a girl, you used to flick a coin and a fountain for a suitor. Things went better back then. You bought shoes one at a time.
Starting point is 00:19:00 You had no choice. And if you couldn't afford a second one, just hopped that became a big dance craze The skipping I don't want you to talk anymore. Ah Pools used to be easier too My representative is telling me to not go further into that one Representative is telling me to not go further into that one. I vote for how much we spend on war. So other people reject being a delegate to Congress, so finally William agrees to be the delegate nominee. Because he's obviously going to win because he's working with a clerk
Starting point is 00:19:45 because education is rich he's known nationally sure it's got a great business reputation of Montana share daily is a democrat and as is William so he he says he's going to support William okay but he needs a new secretary of the interior to change the timbre rules in Montana because he's illegally cutting down trees for a railroad. So he this is motivated mainly because of him breaking timber laws.
Starting point is 00:20:14 He can get, yeah, they can like better use timber. That are more than fortunate by getting totally fucked up this point. Right. The criminal crime. So he's excited to help the people. Right. Yes. So he needs a senator in DC who will help him get that done. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Now the butte inter-mountain paper. Inter-mountain. Inter-mountain inside the mountain. Inter-mountain. Uh-huh, quite a-yup. The paper helps daily with a smear campaign against William. The paper says his smelters, graveyards, and slaughterhouses are polluting the water. So this is a time when people minded if their water was ruined? That bothered people. People were motivated by that. People like whatever. Yeah. William owns the water company too.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So the charges are dismissed by experts as just being made up, but he does admit that they need more supply, water supply. So Daily's like, I will finance a new water company, but then when the election ends, he doesn't do it. Weird. A broken promise. So William runs against Thomas Carter, who is an unknown. The issue of the day was tariffs.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Sure. William wanted low tariffs. Carter wanted high. So Daly's has his whole operation. He has thousands of Irish laborers who he'd brought over from his other companies. Oh please, please give us a break. That's right. We've come here for opportunity.
Starting point is 00:21:48 There's a lot of us living inside this one little shanty here. Please help. All we only have money for hearts. Hearts. Oh, hearts. Yeah, to put it in our head, that's how we got money for. But each one of us can afford a heart.
Starting point is 00:22:03 By the way, we're all named Tom. Each one of us is named Tom. Hey Tom. Well, what do you, yeah? No. Oh, me? No Tom. All right, over here.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah, no Tom. The older Tom, he's talking to me. No Tom. Well, I think he's looking in my direction, boy, he's all hung on this one. No Tom. Oh, Tom this one. No Tom. Oh, Tom, eh? No Tom.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Ah, you're looking for a time you gotta tell him right here. We've got a feast for a time. No, no Tom. Well, boy, didn't she say so? I did. My name's actually Jeff. Shit. What do you need?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Did you say the classic Irish name, Jeff? That's right. Jeffrey, with a G. So, he paid really well, daily paid really well. The workers are super loyal. Now, he keeps it secret that he's back in Carter. Everyone thinks he's back in William. And the day before the election, Daily sends 1,000 of his workers to one of William's rallies.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But then the next day, all of his employees vote for Carter. And Schiff Boss was looked at the ballots and made sure they were voting for Carter. OK. And they would vote over and over and over and over again. Jesus. So I mean, this is really what Trump was talking about. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You've got Irish workers coming out of the Irish woodwork. Some of them voting five, ten, fifteen, twenty times. We love the Irish. We donate the Irish. We just don't. We want a fair election. Over five thousand times voted. Crooked Joe Biden. Got the Irish. So he loses, everyone is shocked. Okay, Carter 157% to 43%, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Right. William Blame the butte inner mountain paper. William's paper said the loss was due to, oh yeah, William owns papers too. Cool. William's paper said the loss was due to quote, the deepest kind of treachery among the supposed friends of Mr. Clark. His diary. His diary. So Montana becomes a state in 1889 and daily and William are now open enemies. Okay, finally. Finally.
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Starting point is 00:25:10 It happened. Yeah. The State Democratic Party offered daily the position of chairman so he could repair the damage that he had done with William. Okay. But William's pissed. William's furious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And then, and then daily just ends up fighting with all the people he got over to his William. Okay. But William's pissed. William's furious. Yeah. And then daily just ends up fighting with all the people he got over to his side. And so it's just a shit show. Right. He doesn't work. So there's this huge fractured political situation in Montana and their first legislature ends up being split down the middle. Eight state senators, 25 state legislators on each side.
Starting point is 00:25:45 So it's a total of that. Right. So Senate dams refused to go to meetings. They're like, well, this is a shit show, so we're not gonna go. They won't even go to the meetings. They don't want anything to get done. So Republicans issue a rest warrants to make them come.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's so fucking nuts because it is just like, always on this podcast where you're just like, Jesus crap. I mean literally the same shit where you're just like, what? Like we're gonna have the Democrats arrested. Like you can hear that next week and be like, okay, well that makes sense. I mean that should be happening, that makes sense, that's where we were headed. That's Oregon five years ago.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah right, that's something I'm saying. It's Oregon five years ago. They taught me that a Yale. You'll get there baby. I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like,
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Starting point is 00:26:39 I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, I was like, you were like, you were like, So it's like it's put down the middle, they're going to arrest them. They flee the state, the Democrats. What?
Starting point is 00:26:53 So we're out of here. That's right. Where am I going? So now nothing can be done. The legislature can't do anything without them there. And then the parties decide to form two joint sessions. So there's just... Dude, I'm holding the joint session. Did I fucking figure it out? This is like, we're like, five years ago, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Just held the joint session, bro. So it's just Democrats have their state legislature and Republicans have theirs. So they're just independently now solo-artisting for their... No, and there's no real benefit to it at all, right? There's two governments, well, so there is. Now they both pick two US senators, so that's fine. So now there's four senators. Okay, not fine.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Montana, right. Two Republicans, two Democrats. William is one of them. Okay. So the US Congress would now get to choose from the four weird. US Congress is controlled by Republicans. They just picked the Republicans. Okay. Sure. William is denied a seat. That is not a great. Okay. But he desperately wants to be in the Senate. So Montana just goes back to business usual. They all become, they're becoming wealthier, William and daily. William's building up political support.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And so is daily but the difference is daily wants, someone to do is bidding in the Senate while William wants to be in the Senate. He wants to be in the Senate. So in 1893 populism, there's free silver, there's a big issue of the day. By the way, the show's going great. So daily wants to make Anaconda the state capital. He wants to make Anaconda the mind the state? But no, it's a little town.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Okay. Now it's a town because I got built around the mind. Right. But that's, it's like a shitty location. Sure. Although I looked it up on the map and I'm like, what's the fucking different, but whatever. Sure. Although I looked it up on the map and I'm like, what's the fucking different, but whatever. Sure. So, and the other, and so there's other ones that are on the,
Starting point is 00:29:09 on the list. Sure. And the, the capital location is just going to be decided by a general vote. Okay. And, daily is really mad at the Butte City Council because they backed Williams Water Company. So he leaves the Democrats again and joins the republicans okay
Starting point is 00:29:29 and the democrats uh... get crushed in this election but anaconda comes in second in the state capo race and is now in a runoff with uh... is it halina or hell hell with hell that's fucking hilarious that it's like, wow, we're having a run-off. So this is the fall-up. The Senate seat is once again up for nomination. I would imagine if a senator's in that seat and they're like nodding off while they're in the seat
Starting point is 00:30:07 That would be a problem for moving forward So Daily gets eight Democrats to defect to keep William from getting the nomination. Okay So but there's votes every day until they pick Sorry Williams running now is a Williams a Republican now Daily's are public daily's are public. Okay. Got you right so So now they have to vote every day the legislature until they pick a guy sure So they can't they can't sell one it goes on for days and days and days
Starting point is 00:30:42 They're voting every day and William just needs some Republicans to back it sure so using money to influence this is going to it's not crazy but using money to influence legislatures is kind of the way things work it's a different time well sorry hold on on what what do you even mean I can't kind of process those so people would with their money who people who rich people? Oh like a leaf their money to pay off Senators and stuff try to but the senators would be like no or whatever Sure, yeah, right. Okay. I'm just trying to like figure out how that would So Congress at the time was called the Millionaires Club?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Can we bring that back? Can we not do that because I guess the Senate is hospice, so Congress could be the Millionaires Club. So journalist David Phillips called it quote, the eager resourceful Inda Futtagetable agent of interest hostile to the American people. Right, so they're just, it's Congress. Yeah, it's, it comes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Rumors flew that William was bribing Republicans. Daily, friend of the working man, hires Pinkertens to find bribery evidence, evidence, and dig up dirt on William and his supporters. Okay. So it's expected that Pinkerton's are just gonna find evidence of bribes from William, but they don't. So voting, and this is while the voting for senators
Starting point is 00:32:17 going on, it's been like for weeks. And on the final ballot, laying that six Republican votes. So he has 32, but he needs 35. OK. The guy who comes in second called the legislature quote, a band of bribe takers and bribe givers, a stench in the nostrils of all honest men, and a by word with a jeer throughout the union.
Starting point is 00:32:41 A by word with a cheer? OK, sure. It made sense. OK, buddy. Sure, pal. Fucker, you talk about that. Okay, sure, it made sense. Yeah, okay buddy. Sure pal. Fucker you talking. He was doing great for a minute. No. Yeah he was.
Starting point is 00:32:51 William could not get the three more votes, so it's over. And the result is the Senate seat is vacant. Wow. They don't have a senator. Oh man, it's called fine-stining. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. But I'm still here.
Starting point is 00:33:10 What do you mean? How should I vote? What's a vote? Even so, even though he doesn't win, William is accused of bribery. But he was... But he was. I don't know. So... Kathleen Williams, there she is,
Starting point is 00:33:33 was a local teenager and... Yeah, fuck it perverts! That's why I always hold on. Wait! Jesus Christ! It's why I always hold on, you wait. Jesus Christ. I mean, how old do you think games like that were anyway? She was a bute theater actress and then she met William Clark. He said he would send her to New York to study opera but first had to get a degree from
Starting point is 00:34:04 Montana, Wesleyan University. Around then, he also met 15-year-old Anna La Chappelle. Jesus Christ. She wanted to be a musician and singer and soon became his ward, even though her parents were alive. Like you take care of her, Like almost like a foster daughter, but her parents are alive, so that's weird.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah. No. It's almost like Michael Jack, or Ted Nugent. Hello, Ted Nugent, how are you? It's okay, I'm gonna take care of him. He got a scholarship to Neverland University. What? Don't worry, we'll back. What?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Stop talking. Dave, what's the matter? Well, that guy's a pedophile. Who? Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:34:55 This guy is too. Oh, it's a stop talking. Fucking goddammit. So William sends Anna to Paris to study the harp. The harp. Like that's fucking hard. Can I not do that? You're going to go to the best harp university of all time.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You're going to harp to fucking shit out of it. It's going to be great. And then the harp knock life. And then he would visit her often. You're right, it'd be like, how's it going? The election for the state capital is heated. Okay. It's intense. William backed Helena and daily backs anaconda. And the standard paper it said, Helena was a political hog, pretentious, full of millionaires and anti-labor scabs, Chinese blacks and criminals.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Jesus. So the whole gamut, the rich motherfuckers, like it's everything. All the people they've got there. I don't need to hear anymore. I like Anaconda. No, that's Helena. Oh. Helena supporters said Anaconda was controlled by a despotic corporation.
Starting point is 00:36:06 The side spent money on liquor and fireworks and parades anything to sway people but Helena wins. So daily is fucking pissed. Right. Historian Stanley Thomas Pitts quote, the disappointment and anger changed him and he never overcame it. Jesus, dude. God's fucking wanted it! And Akonda's the place. How could it not- Oh, fucking kill the ball! And Akonda forever! Don't a slit throats up and down this date!
Starting point is 00:36:36 God of forever. It's a good movie. So, while he's angry beyond words, William is just loving it. It's a good movie. So While he's angry beyond words William is just loving it. He throws us he throws a big party in the city He's the hero the anaconda standard called him a quote political sorehead the anaconda Stent well yet surprising editors note where we don't like him Not sure what it is they called him a sorehead and said he had a grudge against daily yeah a real sore head
Starting point is 00:37:11 yes our head how so publicans you sir are a sore head how dare you you are a scavenger! You're a bimbo! A boyle upon the anus of society. Thank you! No! What a... it's quite a compliment. Oh, good lord. A scavenger is good on the anus.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I mean, it's healing. Oh! First of all, I didn't say that. What did you say? I never mind. I don't want to do this. It's really horrible. Well, thank you for calling me a scapsum.
Starting point is 00:37:51 No. I'm a healing thing. I'm getting better. So Republicans won the legislature, and they choose two GOP senators for DC. So William's not getting at this time, but he starts organizing for the next election. Sure. Now William at this point crazy popular and he goes about running his businesses.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Historian Pits quote, daily took the defeat personally and it solidified the animosity and rancor between himself and Clark. Okay. So William just kind of live in his life and this guy's like, I'm gonna fucking gut you. Yeah, right. According to his friends, Daily fell into a deep, this is over a fucking city, not because he's a kid. But he also, Daily's also the whole,
Starting point is 00:38:34 like he's been enemies in his head with him for way long. So this has like been building up and he's like, like he got defeated by him. Yeah, yeah, right. So according to friends, Daily fell into a deep depression and never forgot or forgave the loss he spent less time in an aconda and more time at his ranch in bitter root valley bitter root man why won't anything grow his health deteriorated he had kidney and heart issues, but Montana was great.
Starting point is 00:39:06 In the next election, Republicans barely hold on to the legislature. And in 1896, prosperity returns and the populace and the silver movement fades. Okay. In 1899, William was 60 years old, and at the peak of his financial power. Boom! Guess who's back? Back again! Not in, not in, not in, not in, not in, not in, not in, not. For those of you who are listening to the podcast while on a drive,
Starting point is 00:39:37 we're dealing with something a little different at this show. We want everyone to know we've been putting melatonin in the water at this show. So if you start to feel a little sleepy, there's nothing strange about that. We've asked for those most susceptible to nodding. To please, please, please. Sit up front. Hey Teddy, could I get another double vodka soda and a cot? And I'll take another one of these guys, Tangri and Tom. Can I get some limes and also a my pillow? The greatest of pillows.
Starting point is 00:40:31 The best pillow. The only pillow that overturned an election. I love that guy's losing his hand. Here's a little tip. Go ahead, pillow guy. Hey, if you're gonna go to a show and have a little dose eight to 15 times darn it, maybe don't favor the neon colors.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Oh. Oh. Oh. Maybe we're something more in the range of some camouflage from your cabelas, your bass pro chefs. No need to worry, hey, I'm over here on some mall. Cause it might not help things? Hmm? Oh! Dave, you're at a live dollop show where we've unfortunately dealt with a new, new wrinkle.
Starting point is 00:41:33 We've been doing the show almost 10 years, and to our knowledge, we've never had someone sleep throughout it. However, tonight, we we found a new bottom. Man with the beginning of the show was willing to shout things out. But he didn't know it was a marathon, not a sprint. This little baby boy is tucking himself way out. I don't know if there's any recovering from this. Our heart goes out to our sleepy little baby. The funny thing is that we here 9.30 pm show them, we're like, Jesus, that's late.
Starting point is 00:42:15 But we're up. So William is at his peak financial power in Philips of popularity. He's now a widow and he has four kids, his wife died, whatever. Jesus Christ. Nobody cares. What she died of. She went to a comedy show and she fell asleep. She never woke up. She never woke up. She never woke up. She never woke up. So William went and lived in France because that's where the harp is. The harp fuck is technical term.
Starting point is 00:42:59 A harpy. Meanwhile, daily was just brooding over the capital loss. So William's like, so Williams like, ah man, I got so much going on and daily's like, I would have fun. Some day he would have been mine. You will rule the day for this hell and a shit. Do you want to pick out carpet swatches, hun?
Starting point is 00:43:18 I will cut your throat with the whole city of Anaconda. We'll just go with the Burber. You fucking animal. Okay. Every day I wake up and think about wearing your skin. Well, we're probably gonna do devil eggs for Easter. I'm gonna eat your fucking heart. Honey, get away from me.
Starting point is 00:43:44 While you're still alive, the last seconds, I'll pull it out. I'm fucking chew on it. Do you want to watch the live drain from your fucking eyes? At a condo! You want to come to bed? The succession finale's on. Okay. I mean, it's just you've been up for 41 days at the window. I can see him.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Well, no, I actually looked into it. He's in France. I can see France! No, no, you can't see France from here, hun. What's all the blood? I see blood. Yeah, no, your eyes have been bleeding because you stopped blinking four hours ago. Remember, you said you were done because you might miss him.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Fuck. Yeah. You know, it's been three days since I brought up succession, right? Oh, God. Yeah. succession, right? Oh God. Yeah. God damn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Cause I asleep in a show. No, look, you're a degenerate piece of shit, but you're still redeemable in some capacity. BUFFALO! So, now because his health is bad, daily goes to Europe for two years. He's gone to spa and seeing doctors. He also expands the anaconda business. Now, what? What?
Starting point is 00:45:37 God. He gets into knick knacks and stuff. Okay. Selling those little tiny snakes for drugs. Sure, yeah, absolutely. Love those. Those are awesome. And slinkies. Sure. Slinkies. And stop. Masturbation sleeps. Say that's why we say stop when we do. Thought I'd my wake them up. William came back from Europe and was told by an
Starting point is 00:46:02 advisor that Helena leaders were worried because there is once again a new effort to make anaconda the state oh wow and they want William to be the next senator gets in power stop all this shit sure but now they find out daily wants it to he wants to be senator why oh okay wants oh so he's ready to step into the spotlight for this right William uh... as told he's the only step into the spotlight for this right William As told he's the only one who can beat daily So businessmen are really worried about daily because he's sneaky and he's been taking all his mysterious trips to New York
Starting point is 00:46:37 I like that That it's her it's sn and Buffalo, welcome to the show. We've got a real competition here in Las Vegas tonight, David. Let's get ready in a remal! Two animals enter only, one will leave one actually didn't make it to the ring actually is it the dressing room so daly's past methods and his obsession with the anaconda being the capital and his relationship with her partner hagan who is a total rich guy, weirdo.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So it concerns everybody. No one's happy about that guy being involved. And then a third Montana copper king has risen. Jill Stein. Jill Stein. Ooh, who's this drink of water? Augustus Heinz. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Oh, I might be behind in the pose, but I'll catch up. I get it. I get it. Daily now decides he wants out of managing the Anaconda Company because it's gotten more complicated. It's two partners have died and the Rockefeller standard oil is bought in, which made a lot of people mad. So then Anaconda goes public, and it was called the financial deal of the age. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:15 That's what you want to get on. It's fucking a share. Uber, it's, you know, other great companies. Right, other great companies. And then stocks start plummeting, and shareholders start unloading them. And at the same time, Rich Montana guys are pushing William to run for the Senate. And his supporters start working to elect legislators who will pick him.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Okay. And the primaries go well and William's fired up. Okay. So now he wants to crush daily. And the Democrats have one big. They got 74 of the 94 legislature seats. Okay. But daily still controls a big block from two counties where all the Irish workers are. Sure. The Tom's. All the Tom's. The Tom contingent. And the, and the, and the,
Starting point is 00:48:59 Jeff's. What? By the way, you've named me a found very strange at the time for some reason. Yeah, it's not Irish name. That's why. Well, it doesn't matter. Oh, my name's Jeff. Well, by the way, if you name you found very strange at the time for some reason. Yeah, it's not Irish name, that's why. Well, it doesn't matter. Oh, my name's Jeff, so what are you going to do about it? Do you have a problem with it? What are you going to do with it? You're not going to do it? You're not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You're not going to do it. You're not going to do anything, but you're going to sit there and complain. So you are American for sure. You dad my folk in nationality, but I'm 100% on yours. I have no idea what you're saying. I'm saying that your folk can just want to put him 100% on yours. I have no idea what you're saying. I'm saying that your folk can just put him to sit there complaining to do nothing about it.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Speak the Queen's English. Speak the folk in Queen. Falk the Queen. Oh yeah, you aren't she's scandalous. Yeah, I'm going to look around the crowd for a part. You're not even wearing a folk in hot. No, I'm supposed to say this. You're not wearing a hat either.. No, where are you hat either? Of course I am.
Starting point is 00:49:48 There's no hat on your head. No, absolutely. It's a hat on my head. I'm pretending. Yeah! So am I. We both are. So William is below the needed number of legislators to be chosen because of daily controlling those blocks.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So, daily is like Sherry, he's definitely got him blocked. So 10 days before the next senator is to be chosen, daily is paper start running stories that William is going to bribe people to win. Okay. Lenspaper said the accuser was the one who would use bribes. The accused? So it's, they're saying whoever smelled the delvin. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Whoever smelled their delter. It's fart logic, but for government bribes. Way to go, buddy. So accusations are flying back and forth. And the day before the vote, the Senate and House committees each set up committees to investigate the bribes. OK. So it basically makes certain that once the vote happens,
Starting point is 00:51:00 whatever doesn't matter. I mean, it's very similar to our situation that's going to happen in 2024. And that's happened before, yeah. It's fine, it'll just be. That any definitive answer is not a definitive answer. And it won't be fine because last time they handled it well. Yeah, well and it's not gearing up for, you know, there's not been any lessons learned. So it's not going to be a better strategy this time. You know there's not been any lessons learned so it's not gonna be a better strategy this time
Starting point is 00:51:27 Thank for it. Yeah So Right, it's so it once the vote happens. They're just gonna everyone's gonna say bribery bribery so anyway everything is in place for the election to be questioned and So the votes gonna happen the galleries all fill up. It's people are overflowing in the streets they take roll, Rep stands up and says he was given $30,000 in bribery money from W.A. Clark to quote,
Starting point is 00:51:54 purchase the votes of members in this body for himself for the United States Senator. And then he pulled out four envelopes, two have 10,000 and two have five thousand. Okay, how much is that? Four hundred and twenty thousand dollars. He said it, he said he took it to quote, break up the band of doodlers that have so long infested this state. He said he didn't think William knew the details but he knew in a general
Starting point is 00:52:29 way because someone else gave them money okay quote legislators and spectators shouted cursed clapped booed threatened and sat silent uh... like that last one okay everything was happening anti-William papers said he'd been caught red handed. Pro William Papers attacked the rep, calling him a tool, and demanding he be arrested.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Sure. Just classic. The rhetoric gets crazier and crazier, and then a grand jury is called. The judge agrees it warns a trial. But the day after the rep's, like I who stood up, the money man, the after the accusations,
Starting point is 00:53:12 William picked up seven votes in the legislature. Oh shit. So he, even though the, even though the accusation happened, he still got more votes the next day. Right. But he's still in third. Then the day after that, he gets 21 votes.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So people are like, I like this whole scandal. I thought I'd let appeal. He's my guy. They're all like, right me. Or they're being. Oh, right. Other candidates start dropping out and they're replaced. So guys are dropping out and being replaced
Starting point is 00:53:44 trying to stop Williams momentum. But so they're just like last minute candidates? Yeah. This is a monkey. No, we're good. We're really. Hello, my name is Jeff. I'm Irish. I'm running. You're not Irish. I am too.
Starting point is 00:53:58 You can't be. Why? Your name's Jeff. Jesus, here it is. What is for the guy? On the fourth ballot, it's down to William and another guy. On the eleventh ballot, they're tied. Daily's people are blaming it on bribes. And hell on a citizens are telling their reps to switch and vote for Clark.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Okay. So the next day, William's up by three. And at the same time, there has been a recount happening. The guy who accused him of bribes has been having a recount of his win. Uh-huh. And this is like, if George Santos and then what's the house majority? Kevin McCarty, like it's like a combination of those two stories a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:49 So this guy is being recounted. And there's claims of bribery and then the recount is completed. And that guy loses his seat. I've got a recount for you. He's up. Wow, how does he do it?? Every time you point and turn around it feels the vibration. Any wakes up. It's nuts. It's wild. That works. That's how they stay alive and buffalo. How fucking... How fucking great would it be if after the show people realized we were all working together?
Starting point is 00:55:25 So the guy loses his seat and to say that people say, So the right guy loses his seat. And so everyone's like, this is fucking crazy, right? So yeah. So after 10 days, the grand jury says the evidence does not warn a trial. Okay Pro William papers say it's vindication against daily conspirators and On the 18th ballot William gets 54 votes. He is a senator. Holy shit. What a run Now how long did this all take?
Starting point is 00:56:01 To him to become a senator from when yes? Yes. From when? Oh my god. I mean like he's, this is decades. Okay, ten years. Okay, ten years. Okay. He, he's senator that daily papers are saying Republicans voted for William because they were brimed, right? Right. Of course. So the country's been reading about this whole thing,
Starting point is 00:56:19 the whole fucking time, right? And everyone's like, this is a shit show. And the US Senate is now thinking they should investigate sure and Daily's not done his people Say William Was never gonna serve in the Senate and they hire pickerton's to investigate to try to get evidence on William that he was never gonna Serve like he's not gonna serve. We're gonna fail We're gonna find out that he's been bribing. We're going to get evidence. Right. Okay. So the state
Starting point is 00:56:48 trade. They were like in the four seasons landscaping parking lot. We have reason to believe that they actually. So daily gets the state treasure of Montana to pay for an investigation. Okay. And daily's people in Montana are like the machines going into all those legal people and everyone's going in the right. And they do this a big investigation and they come up with this guy John B. Welcome. Mm-hmm. Sure. Can he come here John be welcome So he is the guy snort sister
Starting point is 00:57:33 He is the guy who's indicted for bribery John be welcome. He's the guy. They say hand at the cash Okay, he's a worker of clerks sure so He that guy ends up being disbarred. He's a lawyer lawyer but uh... so so the the senate that holds their investigation and it goes on for forty three days and they find shit loads of evidence okay the committee ruled quote the election to the senate of william clerk is no avoid on account of bribery's attempted bribery's and corrupt practices by his agents in a violation of laws of Montana defining a punishing crimes against the elective franchise.
Starting point is 00:58:09 But what a run. I mean, what a nice run he had in the Senate. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, what is he there? Yeah, 43 days. Well, it's like, he's not. They have to, he's sworn in. They have to agree to see him.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Right, yeah, right. So daily's like yeah yeah so the committee said William gave supporters a hundred and thirty hundred and thirty nine thousand dollars Jesus from nineteen from eighteen eighty nine to eighteen ninety nine twelve members of the legislature got what bribes and a reporter William tried to bribe the Montana Supreme Court judges but the didn't have a lot. The Supreme Court being brimed.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Now that's what they just said. Now the report's going to be submitted in 10 days officially to the Senate. So William gives a speech on the floor on May 15th, 1900. And he attacks the investigation, and the committee, he talks about daily using state funds to start the investigation. It's a political attack, right? And he listed his accomplishments and said, no one had ever accused him of dishonesty in his life.
Starting point is 00:59:19 That's, is that on the list of accomplishments? Yes. It's not a great one. I've done a lot. I've never a lot. I've never been accused of this before. That'll do. He reads a letter of resignation.
Starting point is 00:59:36 He says he's just sent to the governor of Montana. Wow. So he's resigned. Yeah. But he resigned to creative vacancy. Because if the Senate boots him, there would not be a vacancy. If he resigns, there's a vacancy and then the governor could appoint him.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Him again? So he's like, I'm out of here. And I'm back! I'm a zombie senator, motherfucker. Well there's one problem with that plan. The governor's a daily guy. Oh, shit. Well, that's a big problem.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But they've got a plan. The lieutenant governor was a William guy. This lieutenant governor's shit is always the shadiest shit. The governor's like, I'm going to go out to stay for a day. The lieutenant governor's like, I'm going go out and stay for a day, the lieutenant governor's like, I'm gonna fucking bang your wife while you're gone. Like, that is one of the shadiest,
Starting point is 01:00:31 we have many shadi little things, but that is one where it's like, lieutenant governor. Read about the idol. That's, I was living in idol. Oh, you were, oh my God. I was in idol for that year, and I was on Twitter. I was like, wait, what did my lieutenant governor do this year? She's like, they're like, she drove.
Starting point is 01:00:47 She dropped out of bars and she's like, we got a fuck pants. She drove downtown with a Bible and she was holding it and a gun and everyone was like, that's better. I was like, I got the fuck I son of a year at least for a reason. So, if the Senate boots him, there's not a vacancy. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:08 He retires there's a vacancy. It resigns there's a vacancy, right? With the vacancy, the governor can appoint William. But the governor is a daily guy, the lieutenant governor is for him. Correct. So we have to kill the governor. Well, if the lieutenant governor is the acting governor, then he's going to point William. So we've got to figure that away.
Starting point is 01:01:27 We have to get the governor out. This is like, Oceans 19. Yeah. They have to get the governor out of the state. So what? I can't believe that's what it is. Oh, sir, I've got fantastic news. They've made the largest custard right in my home, man. And they want you there for the ribbon cutting.
Starting point is 01:01:47 One month before William resigned, he writes two resignation letters. One to the governor and one to the secretary of state. So William's son Charles holds on to both letters. Any weights? I've put them both inside me, father. Fear no. No, what, no. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:13 No one will know. I stamp them both with wax. They will be unopened until it's time. That's not what we, I've hidden both. No, I just want you to. Inside me. No, just a good news is don't worry. I didn't eat them wink wink just sitting like a I just like a locked drawer I'm a mailbox M.A.L.E
Starting point is 01:02:34 Fuck I did not raise you well what you were gone so much mother did it So on May 12th the lieutenant governor goes to South Dakota for a convention. The lieutenant governor or the governor? Lieutenant Governor goes to South Dakota for a convention. Then why would the fuck would you hold a convention in South Dakota? Welcome to the motel six. The State. Then when a Williams man goes to the governor and tells him that the owner of a mine in California wants him for legal work on this valuable purchase he's making.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Well, sir, we've got exciting news. California needs you there for an exciting purchase. He says, here's $2,000 as a retainer, which is $70,000 today. And politicians. Well, at this point, William has publicly said he will not resign. So Lieutenant Governor Spriggs is in South Dakota. Another mustache tie boy. And the governor is like, okay, well, if he's in South Dakota, and William, you fear your
Starting point is 01:04:03 Lieutenant Governor where you're like, well, if the lieutenant governor's out of state, I can go out of state, these shady motherfuckers, these lieutenant governors are just like the guy who's trying to bang your wife next door all the time. Which I like is the hot white. Sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:19 So lieutenant governor of South Dakota, William has said he's not absolutely not going to resign, so he's like, well, this is okay. Yep. So. This is so capery. As soon as he leaves the state to go to California, a telegram is sent to Lieutenant Governor and it's pretty good. I'm the governor.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Weather is fine. Cattle doing well. That was the code. Weather is fine. Cattle doing well. That was the code. Weather's fine, Cattle are doing well. Pack my bags. I've got to go back. I'm in charge. He jumps on a train and arrives on May 15th, the exact Dame William resigns on the
Starting point is 01:04:57 Senate floor. Charles then sends the resignation letter and the Lieutenant Governor immediately appoints William as the newest senator from Montana. And meanwhile the guys like so uh... California walk me through this what the fuck what do you mean what the fuck happened holy shit holy shit So the daily people are pissed, the governor is pissed, the US Senate feels fucking doomed. Everyone's like, what the nuts? No one's like, that was pretty cool, like that.
Starting point is 01:05:37 It's like Indiana Jones Temple of Doom, Bag of Sand for the Idol. Most people think the Senate is going to send them packing again. The political fighting is vicious in DC. So he has to be presented to Congress and then his credentials are passed by the Senate. But they don't, they table it. They just go, we'll think about it. And then the governor appoints someone else. So both men, both of these guys credentials are now sent to the committee who, on elections, who do this. And it's a long fight, but there's not a lot of time left in the session, so they end up doing nothing
Starting point is 01:06:22 and neither guy becomes senator. So it's to stay bit so what stay but it's like a stay basically like yeah it's uh... it's a whole she it's a wash right goes back to montana and immediately begins running for the senate what the fuck what
Starting point is 01:06:43 with elections in six months what's up i oh my god so he gets together with hines and agrees to give unions and eight hour work day because they they know it's gonna happen at some point anyway and immediately you celebrate them and so very quickly as a quick sidebar, Dave,
Starting point is 01:07:06 is that why unions matter? Because when politicians decide they want to win on popularity, they'll be like, for sure, I'm a union guy now. And then everybody fucking eats. Yeah, yeah, ass. So they're celebrated. Meanwhile, daily is in really bad health. He's bed ridden at this point.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And people blame him for the investigation. Get him in the Senate. Yeah. People blame daily for the investigation that led to bad PR for Montana. So they're like, you are, you, you're the one who started the investigation in which everyone found out that Williams was bribing people.
Starting point is 01:07:49 So you're the bad guy. Right. And he had also sold his mind holdings to standard oil in the Roosevelt. So they were born out of it by the end. And he refused to give an eight hour work day like the other minds. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So William runs on an eight hour work day. My name's Jeff. I gave you the air work day and he gets the Democratic nomination. Daily's people try to create a new party to stop him but William's dem sweep the elections. What was left of the daily machine is over. A few days later, Marcus Daily died in New York. He was 58. Jesus Christ, he felt like he was 90. He looks really old.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So he died of brights disease and knowing that William would be a senator. Wow. That's sweet. Any news? Well, it seems like it's spread. William's being sworn in. Fuck!
Starting point is 01:08:46 What an amazing last word. Kill me now! Oh, there's more. Kill me now! Jesus. Hit me with a brick. Oh my god. I was way better.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I'm a fucking loser. No, listen. Spash my head in with something heavy. How about this? I'm gonna put a podcast on. You'll drift quickly. Oh my god! Don't let it be Rogan. I can't live that long.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I like Quencho really gets into it and does seven hours. William was chosen on January 16th, 1901. Once in the Senate, he did not work for an eight-hour work day. Or anything to help labor. Kathleen Williams graduated from opera school. She was 22. William was 62. That's why she's got that look. William was 62. Ugh. Ah. Ugh. That's why she's got that look.
Starting point is 01:09:47 She's got some old, old dick. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. She went on, so he gave her tons of fucking money to get training into all that shit. She goes on to become a movie actress starring in a 170 films.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Wow. I mean, to be fair, they took like a week back then. So all she had to do was she's certain fucking butte, she just had to fucking old Rich Guy, and then she lived the dream. Sometimes you got a fucking old Rich Guy. I did. How do you think I got the podcast?
Starting point is 01:10:23 Same. Once again, Joe Rogan. What? The guy I banged used to do it alone. I wouldn't call it banged. I would call it being the bangie. Bottom Reynolds. In 1901, Anna Lashapel had the first of their two children.
Starting point is 01:10:48 People noted that Anna's mom lived in a big house, a block from Clark in Butte. William visited Anna often, and she came to DC to see him. The paper said her father had died in one of William's mines, which was not true. He was actually a tailor and sold medical potions. Ah, really? I think this sport coat looks unbelievable. Do you want another eyeball? No.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Do you have indigestion? No. Would you like the hair of a witch? No. Just the suit then. Yes. Okay. Do you have anything for my eyes that keep bleeding? No. Just the suit then. Yes. OK. Do you have anything for my eyes that keep bleeding? I have a show you shouldn't go to.
Starting point is 01:11:35 In 1902, William's younger brother, J. Ross Clark, told him he should build a railroad from Salt Lake City. What just happened? What did you do? Just make a sure everyone participates in the live event. Oh, my God. In 1902 Williams-Younger Brother, J. Ross Clark told him he should build a railroad from Salt Lake City to Los Angeles to cut the transportation time of his medals.
Starting point is 01:12:09 On the route, there was a perfect spot with natural springs for water for the steam engines. The site became a way station. In the Senate, William tried to get the canal to go through Nicaragua and set a Panama to help Israel road. Okay. Other senators did not like William. The saying was quote, if you took away the whiskers and the scandal there would be nothing left. That's what they say about me. Sure. Never been right. William was known for his greed in the Senate. Imagine. I can. In 1904, Daily's Old Paper published a story about Anna and William's affair.
Starting point is 01:12:54 So William now has to come out and he says they had been married three years before when she was 23 and he was 62. Jesus Christ, there is no documentation of their marriage. His children from his first marriage learned about it all in the paper as it's supposed to be. Sure. That's island about my parents. And yours? Yes. His railroad was finished in 1905. Around that way, station with water, they created something known as the Las Vegas Land
Starting point is 01:13:38 and Water Company. And William built a town around it. Soon it's gonna be the Las Vegas land company. So on me, so they plot it out, right? They get, as we've talked about, I don't think it's been out yet, but we talked about this live one where the railroad just got property around the railroad.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Like they would just give them mass lots to build cities. Yes. So that's what this is. So the railroads are basically in charge of infrastructure. Yes. Right. So they build, they build, they, they, they lot out this town, right? They make lots.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And then on May 15th, 190505 2000 acres of land go up for sale on over 600 lots that's them actually auctioning it the town of Las Vegas is so, I can't believe Las Vegas' founder is a total fucking cult. Who knew? How can a town like this have a... Wow. After the Senate, he went back to his businesses. That year Mark Twain said about William, quote, he is as rotten a human being as come to found anywhere under the flag.
Starting point is 01:15:13 He is a shame to the American nation, and no one has helped to send him to the Senate who did not know that his proper place was the penitentiary, with a ball and chain on his legs. Man. To my mind, he is the most disgusting creature that the Republic has ever produced since it's changed. I can't believe it's still going. And I love how we hear that,
Starting point is 01:15:35 and we're like, what if we just replicated it? So that's Vegas. Fuck. He started? And how did Circus go ahead? We'll get to that. Then the clowns came. He started building a huge mansion in New York City which cost $7 million.
Starting point is 01:15:57 More than Yankee Stadium. He bought a quarry in New Hampshire and built a railroad to get the stone to New York. He imported marble from Italy, oak from Sherwood Forest in England. Sherwood florist. Excuse me, sir, we took that from the rich. Fuck off. Boom, take the whole forest down. I want the wood.
Starting point is 01:16:23 There were 121 rooms, 31 bathrooms and a swimming pool. 35 servants quarters as well as an underground railroad to bring in the coal. People fucking hated it. It was ugly and it was considered in a front to the city of New York. On February 5th, 1908, Clark County was created in Nevada and named after the Great Man, William A. Clark. He died on March 2nd, 1925 at 86, and left his kids over $200 million. Oh, fucking shitbag. His mansion was torn down three years later. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Oh, God. Good. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Sores is Western mining history, Clark's folly, how a mining tycoon spends his fortune, world history, sundries, Stanley Thomas pits, an unjust legacy, the critical study of the political campaigns of William Anders Clark, Midas of the West, the incredible curve William Anders Clark by Michael Malone, Montana the magazine of Western History, which is by the Montana Historical Society. Well, what a run.
Starting point is 01:17:54 What a show. What a time. What a new, what a night of firsts. What would you say overall? Tonight, Dave, we learned about the history of Las Vegas and how fucking boring that can really be. Is that because people, you know, just kind of not often they, or do the people pretend like my sunglasses are my eyes and they lean down and they lean down to pretend they're awake but they're not. I don't know what you're talking about
Starting point is 01:18:31 but all I'll say is tonight we had a front row seat to some interesting history about how the government really is always asleep at the wheel. And even when you feel like there are bright spots, at the end of the day, the lights are on, but nobody's home. Thank you very much, guys. We appreciate it. We got merch for sale if you want that. We got t-shirts.
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