The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 601 - Elon Musk with Karen Kilgariff - part two

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

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This is an American History Podcast for each week. I, Dave Anthony, surfer, read a story from American History to a man. Who has a lot of questions about you in your little surf life. Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. And they want a beach. In your head.

No, I'm not a beach. And quiet, Dave. And we're on part two of Elon Musk. We're musking. And what? She can't talk until we mention her name. Who? The guest.

Oh, we have a guest. Great guest. She's the teal to our musk. Yeah. Karen killed Gareth. Thank you for joining us again. Pulling my face back. Yeah. I haven't seen him. You guys, is it really fun? I'm just copying Gareth's back. Yeah, I haven't seen him you guys. Is it really I'm just copying Garrison?

Yeah, no, it's not good. Well, he's doing a whole their whole thing now of like harvesting. Yeah, the baby blood I mean, it's only they're right now. They're like 18 year olds, but you know, and they're it's really going to They were I think there was yeah, I don't know how real this was But I read something about there being a lot of signs in Mexico that were like, are you a teenager? Do you need money? We need your blood and like, teal's like, that's mine. Yeah.

You mean like those painted signs that are up are like a job, call this number? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Guitar lessons, too much blood. I love that billionaire or multimillionaire that's very famous for trying to look younger. And he absolutely looks like the weirdest.

He looks like a medical school teaching doll. Totally. He looks, this guy who is... The guy that he's like, he keeps, and also... He's taking his kids' blood. He's like, I don't know. Oh, I know you're talking about that. He's always posing with no shirt on.

It's like, it's more than just Ab's friend. Yeah. Yeah. Not into this look of yours. It's not working words. Like it's more than just abs friend. Yeah, not into this look of yours. It's not working. No, it's not working. You maybe look a little younger, but nobody wants to be around you. It's really like you like,

oh, and this is what happens when yoga goes wrong. Yeah, right. It's like, have you met downward facing dog the man? Ah! Also, the only point of that is that he wants to fuck high school girls. Right. Yeah. It's just say it.

You keep asking for press and that's the real story. Oh, yeah. I feel like we'll be comfortable with that headline in 10 years in this dystopia. I want to fuck head like her. It's like, man gets younger to try to bang high school girls. Yeah, or nay. It's okay. Bill Marks.

Hot or not. Oh, but three question marks afterwards. Bill Marks. Bill Mark. Bill Oh, but... Three question marks afterwards. Bill Mar. Bill Mar. Bill Mar is a little glasses and a little podcast. She's what it does. What's the name of that podcast?

Unwatchable. Stoner and a little shed. No Mar. Unwatchable. Please no Mar. I mean, just imagine if I had kids and some kid had to be like, God, that's my dad. Like, it's really the most embarrassing old guy stuff. Well, there's a real...

He's real proud of himself. No matter what thing. Yeah, I am. With good reason. Okay. Brutal. So bad. Just getting stoned, and then he's just like, but why do we even need no really? Why do we even need the poor?

Just get a job Yeah, right. Yeah, harkening to the arrow when it was way easier. That's like what I mean That is like what happens in England right now where people are like well You should just get to house in a job like I did. It's like, no, that doesn't happen anymore. What I really love is, and this is something I've seen on TikTok, is like they keep having these, like, what look like American town halls, but they're British. So everyone in the audience is insanely smart.

And they open it up. And then a young woman who looks like she's 23 stands up and just eviscerates a panel of people. Or she's just like, the thing I think those people, that era of people don't understand, is that the Gen Z, late millennial Gen Z and beyond are hyper-educated about this shit in a way that not only were we not, but it wasn't quote

unquote, cool to be. Right. Yeah. And it's like becoming, I mean, they're, they're smart enough to be like, yeah, this is desperate. Yeah. So that's why I know this stuff. Yes. And you're killing us.

Yeah, killing us. Yeah. And they're like, just work hard. Yeah. It's really like talking to a lemon, you just like this, I can't actually have a conversation with this. A lemon? Yeah. Old people, you're just like, why am I talking to a lemon you just like this. I can't actually have a conversation with this Old people you're just like why am I talking to you? I'm not much of a lemon

I'm not that limiting a lemon with an overfire I'm spizz my skin looks a bit like a rhyme By walking off. It's in a ceremony. That's great. That's great. It's in a ceremony and there's like an old, it's for an old, a military guy, very old military. Even the old guys.

I think we're supposed to stay here, bring the president. He just walks off and walks, doesn't like walk the back door like he's supposed to just walk through the crowd and everyone's like, what's going on? Yeah. He just leaves and then the music starts playing and the guy just standing up there low. What's happening? Uh-huh. He's like, look, I gotta go.

My dog is biting someone. Yeah. I gotta get out of here. I'm outta here. Oh, music. Try the theme though. And called it quote, his jam patch. Jam patch?

I'm the fucking hip-hop guy. Dave, okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Is it far from? And this is not going to come particularly quite, though. Yeah. guy! Dave, okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it far-fine? And this is not going to come to tickle you, podcast. Okay. This is like an-

I'm not a five-part proficient. Come on, Rob! Now hit him with the puppy. You both present sick arguments. No, sleep down, hip-hop. That's like an hip-hop. Actually, part of it. I can't be-

No, and I see that, my friend. No, every day. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha my friend. Oh, every day. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Big Silicon Valley guys are investing in Tesla. In July 2006, the Tesla Roadster was revealed at an event. Celebrities did little five minute drives of it, like Schwarzenegger, only five minutes out because it could overheat.

So. God, the hot in there fast. Get the wheel going very quick. My back's burned. The price was set at $90,000. So to be ready in a year, it was not. Engineers said Elon's ideas led to delays, like he wanted a carbon fiber body,

which meant a specific paint, a paint which is toxic. Employees preferred the CEO ever heard over Elon, because he was a genius engineer. That toxic paint, by the way, the government regulates levels to protect workers, which Tesla regularly exceeded, but we don't know by how much,

because Tesla did not keep the required records. Okay, and where the government steps in, or is that when that, what government? Oh, right, yeah, he got me. What are you going to say? Well, I just guessed because I have a Tesla. And it's so is it toxic? Should I not be leaning on it? No, no. It's fine.

It's more when they're spraying it. You're doing a lot of leaning on your Tesla. I mean, I pull into the grocery store parking lot. And I pull out, right? Yeah. My desk free rag. Yeah. And I just lean and see? Yeah. My dust free rag. Yeah.

And I just look and lean. See, cool comes up. Hello. Do you like podcasts, I say? Is they walk by? Does this voice sound a little familiar? Hey, what's up? Do you recognize that voice?

Yeah, podcasting. It's from podcasting. No, it's just when it goes into the air when they're spraying it. Oh, cool. So there's manufacturing issues. No, it's just when it goes into the air when they're spraying it. Cool. So there's manufacturing issues. Elon brings in a fixer to watch over Everhart, because Everhart's the CEO. The fixer to watch the guy who knows what he's doing. Yeah, he's going to like check things and make sure that he's, and so he concludes they

had kept worker costs down, but the software to track material costs was a joke. The rose just supposedly cost $68,000 to make, which would net them track material costs was a joke. The rose just supposedly cost $68,000 to make, which would net them $22,000 per car, but in audit revealed that each car was actually costing $200,000 to buy, which is more. And they're selling it again for $90,000. And just, Dave, I don't know much. I mean, sure, I've seen Shark Tank a few times. That's not a good margin. It's more right. Yeah, so you're losing money by selling it.

And it's one of those things where you're selling it cheap and it's costing so much, but you want to seem like you're a good business and you're doing that take on the chin move. That's right, smart, it's cool. A third of the cars they made didn't work. Is that an issue? It's a decent amount.

The cars you don't want. Sure. Yeah. Why did he want to do carbon fiber? Just because he like breaded in it. Incyclopheia. Yeah, I guess all of his ideas are like that. It's just like, you know, they just had to keep.

I never mentioned that in Britannica 1973. It's just like he has the volume go to 11 because he, yeah, it's that shit. Because he had a cool voice. It was crazy. Like all that stuff. The fart noise. it's crazy. Like all that stuff. The fart noise. What's going on?

Oh, that's right, when you hold the part. You have a fart noise and you're, no, you're not the fart noise. And it's a, you can hit a button and it makes a fart noise under someone sitting in the back seat if you want. Or any of this. So it just says, you can tell it. Which seat to make the fart noise on and it goes fart.

I know where you could shave a little bit of the budget. There's also full on karaoke. You can have karaoke and karaoke lyrics scrolling on the screen. That's good. That's good. He announced that he's going to allow people to Twitter on there, which is good, because that's... You X. Sorry, sorry.

It's just respect. Twix. So Elon uses all of this stuff to push Everhart out. Everhart was made the president of technology and then he quit. Yeah. Because that's not a thing. Right.

Elon gave a speech to employees, this is from Vance, quote, saying, we would work on Saturdays and Sundays and sleep under desks until it got done. Someone push back arguing that everyone had been working so hard and they were ready for a break and to see their families. And Elon said they will get to see their families a lot. Well, they will get to see their families a lot when we go bankrupt. Okay. All right. So will that be in like June?

It's pretty. Can I actually plan a vacation? So will that be in like June? Yeah, it's pretty June, huh? Can I actually plan a vacation? Yeah. One employee missed an event because his wife was having a baby. Elon emailed him, quote, that is no excuse, I'm extremely disappointed. You need to figure out where your priorities are.

We're changing the world and changing history. Any of you commit or you don't. God. Yeah. What a prick. Just the worst. It's completely insane. But this is, this goes to Karen's point in the last episode of like this guy wants to go into space alone.

Yeah, right. He doesn't give a shit about any of this. No. Like if there's one thing you get a day off for, it's your wife giving birth. If there's one thing you'd want to give a guy a day off for. Like it's like he's saying, he's admitting it's offensive to him

that people live separate from. They have lives Living for him. Yes. Which is just, it runs through daily television, but it also is just like that is a weird, like if you're 20, it probably works. But like with people with families and clearly a lot of abilities to be able to get a different job,

you'd just be like, okay, I'll go somewhere else with my engineering degree and my big brain. Yeah, he's also just like it's like since he's a loser, he doesn't understand why anyone would want anything. Right. Right. So if you- He doesn't have surfing. If you grow- if you grew up without friends, if you grew up with the mean dad and everything else, then you're just like, well, life isn't good. Right, right? But on Mars. On Mars. On Mars.

On Mars. On Mars. On Mars. They call it, they've wouldn't be. I vote Tom again. In 12 Steprooms, they call it a geography. When you get up and you move, thinking that'll make everything better.

All right. Which is what he's doing with the planets. With the planets. It's not going to be more happiness on Mars either. That's the best. You're still going to be more happiness on Mars either. That's the best. You're still going to be stuck with you Elon. But also that grindsett mentality thing of like,

yeah, put in fucking 18 hours. It's great. It's such a scam. So they built a toy. When I got out of college, I was offered a job as, it was a computer cartography was happening. So it was all that it was like mapquester one of those companies it was starting out and my buddy was working there and he's like yeah I can get

you in here it goes it's just the hours are like 12 or 14 hours a day and I was just like no. What if I get a shitty job and don't do that. Yeah. But then you could have yeah. I mean I could have been in on it. And if that was, because there were only two companies at that point competing, if it was one of them, and then they probably merged anyway, I could have made money, right? Stocks and everything else. Maybe.

But also, like, I don't want to work 14 and six hour days for four years and then not have anything. You put directions, even directs. You put directions. You put directions. That's like, what a gift. Oh, come on, bro. You can be working in directions. That's like, what a gift. Come on, bro.

So at the end of 2007, Tesla is running out of money. In 2006, two of Elon's cousins founded a company called Solar City. It was a solar company based on suggestions by Elon who became chairman and helped fund it. The idea was to control the entire process of going solar from sale to installation to drive down costs. This is what everybody does now.

I don't know what was going on then, but I think that people would buy the solar panels and then different people would put them up and then you, like, like what I did my panels I had an electrician come out and do it I think that this is all yeah one thing right which is I guess a revolutionary idea it's really not it's just like what is in there what isn't we just have all the same guys doing that yeah but that but that's that's the basic idea so over the years he and Justine had five kids but two, they had twins and triplets.

So, that's idea. Weird semen, that's what it says to me. Three little semen there, two to three. Just working extra hard for no reason. Yeah, yeah. Look, the sperm that gets into the egg is the one that's going to. All my sperm get in.

The long one. I'm the Alpha sperm. You've got to really bang on the egg to the one that's going to... All my sperm get in. The long gipsy. I'm the alpha sperm. You've got to really bang on the egg to make sure that it works, you know? We're going to send a sperm rock at GoHeadKaren. Sorry, Elon. I just wanted to... No, no, it's kind of good. It was going off the rails early.

I just imagine getting the news as a pregnant woman that you are about to have mother-fucking triplets. Well, after twins, at least I would just give one this time. Oh, yeah, seriously. Triplets. And their e-lons. Oh. Oh, gummy.

That's what I was staring. This one came out with a kindle. He really is. He was like Swedish fish without color. Yeah, yeah. Uh, but Elon was never home. They had nannies, but he was never there. Uh, because he's fucking working agent our day, sir. Yeah, yeah. But Elon was never home. They had nannies, but he was never there. Because he's fucking working agent our day.

That's fair. But just think they can still fix the marriage. So they start counseling and write when they start counseling, quote, he gave me an ultimatum. Either we fix the marriage today, or I will divorce you tomorrow. This is good. That's part of counseling.

I'm looking to close the deal. Yeah. They tell you to do that, Gansley. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's your first day counseling, it's time for ultimatums. The counselor, like, I'm actually gonna help you go through this little bit, it's like, no.

She says she's not ready to divorce. Quote, later that same morning, I tried to make a purchase and discovered he had cut off my credit card, which is how I also knew that he had gone ahead and filed for divorce. He didn't tell her, he had someone else tell her. Still praying out with triplets?

No, the babies are there. I'm so upset about the triplets. Yeah, as you should be. Oh, shit. Okay. We raise them together, we put them back in. What? That's not fair.

Yeah, figured out. We have places, we have the right paint for this. What? That's not fair. Yeah, figured out. We have places, we have the right paint for this. So a friend takes Elon to London to cheer him up. A club promoter brought... I know you're sad because you cut your wife off. Yeah, like he's the beast into the tough spot. He's so upset.

Oh, Elon, man, when are you gonna catch a break? You're doing to yourself another tough, man. Tom, or guy? A club promoter brings some attractive women around, including 22-year-old up and coming actress Tolulu Riley. She's 14 years younger. They go out a few times. A few weeks later, she comes to visit him in California. And Elon said, quote, I don't want to leave.

I don't want you to leave. I want you to marry me. And they shook on it. Well, because they did what on it? I read this. Ribbon cutting. Oh my gosh. They shook.

Put her there, wife, maybe. And then he slapped her on the shoulder firmly. Yeah, yeah. Oh, welcome aboard. Welcome aboard. It's very quick. I think it's like a couple of weeks or something. It's the very first piece.

Where she was like, I was on so much Ambien, I don't know what I'm doing. Oh, am I? So SpaceX bid on NASA contracts despite not having successfully launched anything. Nice. Fuck. There's several failures, but finally, after six years, SpaceX was the first private company to put a rocket into orbit. Elon, quote, well, that was freaking awesome.

Mm-hmm. Terrible. I'm sorry to ask you this. Do you have what year that is? Was that like, I don't have a- I really thought a surf question was coming. No, only because- It's a wrap 2007, 2006.

Oh, okay. Why? Because there was a year at a silver, a series overman roof party where we saw a SpaceX rocket. Oh, wow. But it looked like a gigantic jellyfish in the sky. And I was absolutely positive that we at the aliens had like landed. And it was so funny. Because there was like only five people. I can only get like five people to even interact about it with me. Everyone else is just pretending it wasn't happening. Or I'm like, it's right there. Have you seen

those? No. No. It looks, it truly looks like a jellyfish is swimming like in one direction. So there's this weird, it's like a circle and then there's a weird tail to it and it's really freaky looking and you've never seen anything in the sky that looks like that or that is that big. It's gigantic and they don't ever tell you or warn you or anything. So I was like, holy fuck look at this. And like, I'm sure it was Chip Pope was

with me and like one other comic that we're like, holy fuck this is it. This is like it when we were freaking out. And everybody else, I was like, look, look up there. People are like, mm-hmm. I don't know. I'm like, this is so. You trying to art a joke, dip? So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, them. You can put that story anywhere in this that you actually made it. I don't think it went there. Put it in two or three times. I said, after each one of you surf answers, would you surf in the sky? Yeah. Okay. But would Graham? No. Weirdo. So the rocket goes up. That space tax is still in financial trouble though. Tesla is not doing much better. A Tesla employee wrote that they were laying off staff

and only had nine million in the bank. Quote, we have over 1200 reservations, which means we've taken multiple of tens of millions of cash from our customers and have spent them all. Meanwhile, we only delivered less than 50 cars. Oh my God. Fuckin' A. That's some stressful shit. Oh my God. Fuckin' A. That's some stressful shit.

Oh my God. There's a, I think it's unwide-common error, but there's a software guy. Someone put all the pictures up on Twitter. And on Twix. And I read it a long time ago so I didn't see it, but it was basically a guy who was in some sort of just forum for these kind of guys, and he was describing

what was going on at Tesla, and it was just like, fucking crazy, like the way the cars are being made and the shortcuts that are being taken, and all the shit, it's just nuts. Like everyone's like, this is fucking nuts. Like he just went through and explained everything. So it was like a miracle, any cars got made at all.

I mean, basically, yeah, it was just cluster fuck, roadblock after roadblock, and asking people to do something, can't be done, and just shit, and really unsafe, and yeah. I still can't figure out how to open my glove box. You never will, that's one of the features. Don't worry about gloves. It's like that drawer with its fake in the kitchen.

It's just there. It's just what it could be. It's ornamental. You keep yanking on it. Yeah. So, there are losing tons of money and it's problem. So at the end of 2008, Elon emails his rich friends asking them to invest to help cover payroll.

I like how when you're rich and you need to borrow money it's called investing. Yeah, that's way better. Tesla employees even wrote checks to keep the company going. Oh my God, that's just crazy. That's great. Yeah, but yeah, it's for real. At the last minute before it all blew up, SpaceX won a NASA contract, 1.6 billion for 12 flights to the International Space Station.

And Philly was really, really, he was really close to losing both companies. Damn it. Former SpaceX employee, Brogan, Bam Brogan. You served with him? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh, okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Said quote, Elon, as always been optimistic, that's the nice word. He can be a downright liar about when things need to get done.

He will pick the most aggressive time schedule imaginable, assuming everything goes right and then accelerated by assuming that everyone can work harder. Everything he does is fast, he pays fast, it's like a fire hose. He's fast. Three seconds and out. That's not pee. He's not. That's pee. He three seconds. Just because you can't do it. It doesn't mean Elon can. Well, I'm going to pay for you all to have your rethers widened so you can do the last and out. Get back to work. The least satisfying pee of all time.

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We're here to help with Garrett and Jake. I don't remember how we did it, but either way, fun, half hour comes out Tuesday, August 22nd, and episodes will be out every Tuesday and Friday. We're here to help. Tesla went public in June 2010, raising 226 million shares, went up 41% in a day.

That's business, baby. That's business based on what? None matter. Good word, phone calls, different phone calls around town. It's great. I remember these two when the cars are coming out and like, parts don't fit together, like it's like, like I remember just seeing the videos

and like the cars are just crazy. Especially with like car heads and gear heads and stuff where it's like the whole thing of everything being aligned. Yeah, right. It has to be happening. Right, yeah, and it's not. Yeah. Yeah, it's not at all.

So in September, Elon and Tallula got married in Scotland. They divorced a year later. In Scotland? I'm just a romantic one, because God says. I just love that, yeah, bookend. Do you want to go back for our divorce? Yeah, please. Well, let's go to the same castle and end this.

Elon announced their divorce in a tweet. They got married again in 2013 in a medieval themed wedding. Sorry, again? Yes. They went back in. They went back in. She's like, you know what? I admit it, you're the alpha.

Yeah, you're ready to give it up. I want to call our marriage X. Soller City only going up. The workers were told they were going to change the world. That's what you told me when we started this podcast. I did. And it's gonna happen. You guys, you have, you have.

You promise? Yeah. Dave surfing. How different is that? It's kind of creepy, but okay. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I did. And it's gonna happen. Guys, we have you have. You promise? Yeah. Dave surfing. How different is that? It's kind of creepy, but okay. But to install and lease solar panels with home owners paying over time, that means you have to have a lot of upfront money.

So basically, they're like laying out a plan to make monthly, take monthly payments for people over like 20 years. As you were talking about when you lease a solar roof. So, it's zero upfront. They're not making any fucking money. Is that a problem? Yeah, a little bit of business. So they always have to keep asking for investors, right?

They need investor investor. So, it's getting pyramid schemey. And now they're starting to be mounting complaints about bad installations and misleading sales tactics. In June 2013, Tesla launches their second car, the Model S Sedan. That's your baby, right? I don't think so.

I think that's what you have. Is that mine? Featuring a non-functional glove compartment. I don't think you have the three. It's not a sedan. It's not a small one It's not a car. Can we take a Tesla break? Is it the Y?

Go and inspect your car. Am I crazy? You have the Y? Doesn't it have a computer? She's reaching, she just reached for a glass. Does anybody have a computer? Um, glass of water. Bring up my car details.

This car? You really don't know which one you have? I know, it's not the X is the what. He named the other thing the X. I know. He keeps really doing it. I think he's just trying to get a porn website going. He really is.

He just loves porn. He loves the porn. The one with the wings I don't have. You don't have a winged car. There's a car with wings. He has a winged car. Yeah, he did a McLaren thing on one of his cars. And what's the, that's bad, right?

That's just aesthetic? Yes. I mean obviously I haven't seen a flying. Is that you driving that? Yes, that's me and Tahoe. That's what I thought. No, no. Mine's the one that has kind of like the smashed back.

Smashed back. It's a Y. Yeah, you have a Y. Oh. A Y. The Y's done. I think early ones have the wings and then they stopped doing it. No, no. I made sure. I made sure. Because I kept saying, my cousin has the one with wings. And he was like, you got to get this car.

And I was just like, I could never get out of that car. I would be so embarrassed. Yes. The doors go, woo. So like, that one. Oh, that one. We go to like CVS doors go woo. So like, that one right there. Like CVS, it's like, look at it.

Yeah, every time. Yeah, in the same. Just these skittles. You're like a weird man, you understand that, sir? Just the ramen and a sunkissed. That's me, by the way. That's mine over there. God, David, so what part of the driver's side?

I gotta go. I'd like to point out that the whole time We're talking about this Garrett was picturing actual wings. Well, I was picturing like yeah Like little wings you could pull out just for like to be cool. That is what I was picturing 100% I was actually picturing the band Palmer Carton is always Come on, get in. You're having a drive. Linda Calma, I keep it.

We've got Veggieburg. So the S is launched a couple of catch fire after collisions. It gets a terrible view in the New York Times. The review ran out of charge on a highway. Years later, a Reuters investigation showed Tesla was quote, rigging the range estimated software. The directive to present optimistic range estimates came from Tesla CEO Elon Musk.

Optimistic range estimates is the most enrani term ever. Optimistic, like that's not what I want out of a range estimate. We're really just, we've a little, a good attitude will get you a far more mind. It's more about the vibe than it is about the child. Hey, believe it is. I mean, I'm in the Mojave Desert. Come on, deep, frappin' them. For real.

For real. I mean, it doesn't do very in detail. Like, some people came out and said what they did, but they just totally fucked with the software. But also, when you, the EPA doesn't have just like one test and they go, okay, this is how we're gonna do mileage. You get all these different ways you can do it. And the way it was explained to me about a car guy,

because I rented a Tesla just to see what it was like. And I was like, oh, the mileage is not even remotely better than my car, even though it's supposed to be way better. And some guy said a car guy was like, no, that's because you get like different versions of estimates you can use and like Porsche will take the lowest estimate.

So when you drive you like, well, this gets better. My car, we have Hyundai and there, and it's just exactly what you think it would be. And then Teslas is like the way top one that is not what it ever is going to be. So they can advertise, it gets 300, 50 miles, but it's like it's 260.

Well, it probably fucks with the mileage when you got the wings out too. Arrow dinam, I mean. Yeah, it depends if you go down a hill, it takes light a little bit. I mean, if you're flying, yeah, come on guys. Yeah.

Guys, come on. Come on guys. So yeah, so that's how they, you know, they rigged it, whatever whatever it's all out now Even on dresses a people down in public sometimes with personal attacks if there are typos in an email He sometimes can't read the email as he gets so annoyed That's cool. That's fine. That's normal stuff That's not throwing down his name. You know what you you're fine

You don't need to work on the this shit with your dad Yeah, you know you need to go to therapy. It's all fine. It's not a controlution. It's not at all. Like there's no, yeah. There's nothing going on here. X musk employee quote, Elon's worst trait by far in my opinion is a complete lack of loyalty or human connection. Many of us work tirelessly for him for years and were tossed to the curb like a piece of litter without a second thought.

Well, who's tossing litter on that? I mean, what is it, 1967? And then we're back, baby. We drive around and see it. We're throwing garbage all the time. Let's go, garbage. Yeah, you like it. That's fun.

We'd rather not have eye contact during that statement from now on. I also feel like that was very much surf day who is now super into equality, right? He's never known who tracks for. The fact rings did the turtles. The turtles? Yeah, they get caught in it, man.

Come on, I know a paper straw is hard to say, but every time you see a tortoise with one of those plastic straws nose and out yes my car broke down out here it was about to surf so I had another 40 fucking miles to the ocean it sounds exactly like you do you ever listen to the song wipe out and lament it please don't let this happen to me, Graham. Why is he laughing so much, Graham? Can you get a surfboard built for two, and if you could, would you and Graham write it

together? Yeah, thank you. So Elon, at this point, has rabid fans. We're not sure which we all know. Yeah. Are you gonna explain that at all? I can't, because it comes from this whole thing, everything he's setting up with all these companies

is I'm saving the world. I'm saving humanity, I'm saving the world. I'm a genius. I'm a successful genius. It's very much that. People are looking for an answer. There's no solutions to any of these things because there's no government doing anything.

So you latch onto this guy who is like, a philosopher king type and he but he's who is like, you know, a relic scene. A philosopher king type and you, and he, but he's all, it's all bluster, you know. It is and then he has like, he has a parent, like, you know, he's seen, like, people, so many people are like, he's like Tony Stark. I think we're just idiots. That's a, that's a message has been propagated.

That's a PR thing. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, people like, he's like, Tony Stark. Yeah, I mean, they had him in one of the movies. Except so just likable. They had him in one of the movies. Robert so dislikable. They had him in one of the movies. Robert Downed Jr. came and like hung out with him and like it's all done on purpose.

It feels very though parallel to Trump, where like, you know, Trump being in like so much entertainment as like, I'm the rich guy where it's like, meanwhile, he's like not paying anybody, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, me and my wife, a painter's like, you owe me $45, he's like, I never agreed to give you $45, like, two. I was like, do you have a gold toilet?

I do do get out, you liar, you sack of shit. He's in home alone too. So he's got the right advance in 2013, Elon unveils Hyperloop. It's the fastest way to travel ever, 800 miles an hour. It's like a giant. It's like a giant. It's a hot wheel.

Remember pneumatic tubes from like movies where they'd put the paper in the tube and shoot it across the office and so that's the idea. That's what it seems like. It's underground. You're going in a tube in a little pond or whatever. You shoot across to LA. Yeah. I love it. Where do you get it again? Because it feels like it should be out by now.

Finally, you can be like money from the bank in this in 1978. The tube shoot. He says he wants to build one from LA to San Francisco. Shhh. No, that's a tube. We don't need that. It would take 30 minutes to get there. Oh my God. Five years before voters had passed a bill funding high speed rail between the two cities.

Quote, it makes sense for things like LA to San Francisco, New York to DC, New York to Boston, over a thousand miles, the tube starts to become prohibitive and you don't want tubes every which way. You don't want to live in tube land. What? Who said this? He said this. He said this.

At some point, someone, a guy who just starts talking and doesn't know what he's saying, you should be able to stuff out. I mean, you don't actually sound like a Trump quote. Yeah, that does. You don't live in tube land. Trust me. It'll tubes. Elon told Vance the Hyperloop idea came from his hatred

of Californians proposed high-speed rail. Oh, for fuck, god damn it. He hates it. He hates it. He hates how slow the train would be and how much it would cost. I did that. He hates it. It also is going to compete with Teslas. Right. It's also real.

Yeah. It's real. It can actually happen and it's better than what we have. Yeah. But it's proven. They do that all the time. That's like the government's rules. Is where they're just like someone will pitch and they're like, well, no, but if we're going to, we want the best healthcare ever. And it's like just fucking get something going. Yes. Well, I'll prove it later. Yeah. It's funny because people like, you could fly there in 45 minutes instead of two hours on the train. I'd be like, I'd rather not go near an airport. Yeah.

I can't fly there in 45 minutes because the 45 minutes is when the plane takes off at lands, the other two, three hours is not. Oh, yeah. It's, yeah. But Dave, you don't want to live in two bland. What are you, a hamster, Dave? Don't be crazy. You got to be in two bland and I think you'll love it. Vance wrote that it seemed like Elon just introduced the idea to get the high speed rail canceled.

Quote, right now, this is- He hates canceling, though. Yeah. This is Elon. to get the high speed rail canceled. Quote, right now, this is- He hates canceling, though. Yeah. This is a lot right now. I can't take my eye off the ball at either SpaceX or Tesla. So he's like, we're gonna do this.

I have to do this. But one time, Amulet. But not right now, I can't. But he's really just trying to, he wants to kill this train idea. Because of Tesla. If there are high speed trains everywhere, he's a transportation guy.

And at the same time, you know, in the time that all this shit's happening, China has built a complete massive gigantic speed rail. They put Brad Pitt in one for good. All over the country. Yeah. In early 2000s.

I love that movie, High Speed Rail. That's great. Yeah, that's really good. In early 2014, his assistant of 12 years, M.B. I remember him. And the person hanging there that long. Cause she had an alcoholic dad. Yeah, you're right.

So she has some co-dependent thing. Anyway, she give up her social and family life to match a schedule. She's working his schedule with him. So if he's there for 20 hours, she is. If he's there for 48 hours, like sometimes he'll sleep there. If he's there, she's there with him.

She's got no life other than this. But she's also like crazy integral to the success of the business. She protects him from all the bullshit. She protects workers from his raging idiot stuff. Vance credits her with a lot of success at Tesla and SpaceX. So she goes to him and she goes, I deserve a raise. I need to, I should be paid as well as the executives I'm doing so much here. When she asks for a raise, he tells her to take two weeks off. So he can do her job to see if he actually needs her. And she comes back and he fires her. Oh my God. He gives her 12 months' severance and they have never spoken since. Oh. Dickhead. According to Esquire Magazine, in 2013, Texas passed two new laws to Laura SpaceX, reducing the liability for nuisance complaints and closing public beaches for space flight activities. Oh, sure.

Instead of Texas, Dave. Oh, my God, you would hate it, Dave. You would not be, you would not be, imagine that. There's no surf there. You've there. You'd better not be, you'd imagine that. There's no surf there. You've been a big day of surfing. You guys pack your sandwiches. No, I'm not a tech-surf. You got your picnic ready for post-surf.

And then you find out the beach is closed. There's some little lunatic once the launch of rockets so we don't live in two bland. Jeez, buddy. You and Graham not being able to eat egg-salad sandwiches together? Drink some of that Martin's fake champagne that you buy at Vons. You really made surfing terrible.

What? It's really all right. Buddy. Just say it. Surfing slash picnic. Yeah. Would you make a day of it? I see your handshakes, I'm sure, right?

In 2014, SpaceX bought a land in Brownsville, one of the poorest US cities. SpaceX promised 500 local jobs, and they said thousands, like 15,000 would come each, and watch each launch. Being at tourists and money. Meanwhile, Karen was at a party where nobody would even look at it. And it was happening.

Screaming at the top of my life. And people like, hey, hey, whatever. The site was near Boca Chico, which is on the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge. Nice. That's perfect for nature. Awesome. Before SpaceX, it was just a dozen houses, mostly retirees, an empty during the summer.

The nearest store is 30 minutes away. There's no fresh water. It's prone to hurricanes. But it's one of these people who are very poor could afford a retirement vacation. Yeah, yeah. It's like, they're really, there's not worth very much. But to these poor people, it's like, that's all I could get.

Elon said this site was perfect because, quote, we've got a lot of land with nobody around. And so if it blows up, it's cool. Oh, Jesus. Which really pissed off the people living there. Yeah. Right next. I mean, you literally see,'s a street with houses on it and there's the SpaceX thing. Not you guys. Yeah, to me. But it'll be cool. It's someone who blows up. So after they were pissed, right after that, residents get a letter saying they have two

weeks to sell their houses, which SpaceX would buy at three times the market value, which is a hundred forty one thousand dollars. Wow. That's three times the market value, which is a hundred forty one thousand dollars. That's three times the market value for their house. Oh shit. So it's the force, the land evacuation shit or whatever, like where you have to abandon. Well, it's not eminent domain yet. It isn't no. No, but Texas is just saying, this is your only chance to get more money than you would

get. Yeah, no one's going to buy it. No one's going to buy it. Yeah. And then you know, you can't take that and go buy another vacation house. No. That's it. Right.

Yeah. So, I live in two bland. One retired couple, quote, we were floored. It made you feel that if you didn't accept this offer, eminent domain would be the next step. We felt under duress. We were caught off guard. In 2005, SpaceX temporarily lost its launch pad at Vanneberg Air Force Base because

Lockheed Martin was concerned SpaceX's rockets would explode and damage their infrastructure. I mean, listen to the list of heroes. And Elon Musk was furious. Quote, somebody else builds a house next to you and tells you to get out of your house? Like what the hell, that's just fundamentally unfair. Uh, uh, uh, no, Dave, come on, Dave, please. Ha! Ha! He's like, can you imagine if something like, you bought, hey, asshole!

Now you was good to me, but imagine if you had a place and he was yours and someone forces you out. That's such a classic, uh, whatever that is, narcissism or whatever, where it's like, it's only bad when it happens. Yeah, it's only bad when it happens to me. That's right. Like, he's horrified.

But, but to him, it's like, I'm doing something cool. Those people are just, they're just, they're in the way of something cool. They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness.

They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're in the way of coolness. They're just, they're just, they're in the way of coolness. Yeah, yeah. And for Lockheed Martin to be like our hero. Oh. Oh. Oh. Maybe I want to start following Lockheed Martin. Yeah, pretty good. Oh, god. Just going to interact and defend them when people take a step. Well, they have heat.com, which is their social media. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah, you're heating. Yeah. Yeah, I got reheated earlier. Thank you, Mr. Johns. Yeah, I put out a good heat. Nice. Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we got a bunch of them. We got Blue Sky. We got Th didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we got a bunch of them. We got Blue Sky, we got Threads, we got X, and then... Will you send me a heed? Yeah, I need a light. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get you. We'll get you a heed. I don't know, I'm not sure.

We don't need it all powered up with your little water talk. Yeah. What seems to be truly unfair was Elon's achievement of workers at the Fremont Tesla factory. According to the podcast Land of Giants, the Tesla shockwave, Elon set huge goals and expected perfection. He would tell them to go, quote, super hard core or ultra hard core. I know that language works with you, but most of it, it's even imagine hearing, like,

I just be like, I will kill this man. I'm so sorry, I am gonna kill this man. You're just saying your office working and some guy pups is in it. You're going super hard-court in anybody. Yeah, I'm going super hard-court, you love. It's hour 14. Yeah, super hard-court.

Who needs a monster? Huh? $1 each. This led to quote, extremely long hours, unsafe working conditions, harassment, scandals, fines, lawsuits, and above all, a fear that one false slip would lead to termination. Yeah. Working at Tesla was all-consuming. Engineers worked weekends.

They worked until 8, 9, 10 pm. Employees slept on floors after 12-hour shifts. They fainted from dehydration. A man's leg was crushed on the assembly line. Sewage pipes burst and the workers had to wade through shit. The Tesla factory had three times as many OSHA safety violations as 10 other US car factories combined. Combined. So they are the best.

It's one of the worst factories in the country as far as, you know, violations and injuries and stuff. But that's hardcore. It is super hardcore. It is very hardcore. And they're going so hardcore. Yeah. Also, just thinking of like picturing at a factory line for making cars, those, it's so fucking dangerous. Oh yeah, yeah.

Just the idea, yeah, it is. Yeah, and so now you're fucking exhausted and you're working higher. Yeah, right. Right. Jesus Christ. Tesla was repeatedly misclassifying an under-reporting injuries.

The intelligence are, quote, company officials labeled toxic exposures, muscle strains, and repetitive stress injuries as personal medical issues, or minor accidents requiring only first aid lowering the official injury count. They kind of are the Southwest. Yeah. Sort of.

Yeah. Elon doesn't like yellow. What is this? What is this song by Coldplay? He hates it so much. He hates it. It's kind of pretty, but that's the same thing over and over. He hates yellow.

Yellow is the caution color. Yes. That's why. So they cut back on it in the factory. Which is standard for safety signals. Instead, they were painted different shades of gray. So he's trying to kill people. He doesn't care.

He doesn't care. I mean, that's, that's, he does not fucking care. The, it's about him. I mean, what about narcissism? I don't want her. Yellow. Yeah. He, for, I mean, it's like X. Like when don't want her. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow.

Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow.

Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow.

Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. Yellow. all down to your level with that much ease. It's all just this, I don't like yellow. But also like why can't then if that's so important, replace yellow with red, which is also a scary color that would make people kind of stop. The idea of pretty gradient, gradient gray,

is saying I want to cut your fingers off myself, but I can't, so I'm gonna let the machine cut them off. It's fucking crazy. Tesla denied all this. myself, but I can't. So I'm gonna let the machine cut them off. It's fucking crazy. Tesla denied all this. They said that's not true. Oh, okay. There you go. I think we got ahead of ourselves.

I almost sold that car. Yeah. The article also said Elon didn't like having quote, too many signs. Or the beeping on reversing forklifts. Oh Jesus Christ. Get out of the biz. Yeah, what?

The fork wash. What is that safety noise? He's so on the surface. He doesn't work down there, right? Yes, he does. He's all over the fucking place. He would, he would, I want to be diving forklifts.

He would sleep in the office of the factory forklift camp. Go down there and yes, he's all over the fucking place. He's a control freak. Of course he is. He's probably of the factory. So the first for a cliff kill. Go down there and yes, he's all over the fucking place. He's a control freak. Of course he is. He's probably walking the floor. He thinks it's graded and intimidates people

while he's walking around and going, come on hardcore. And all it's doing is making people scared for their jobs because he's watching. Like that's what this is. Oh my god. Take down that sign. Yeah.

You guys are ignoring a gray siren again. Why is there a sign that's just stop here. Get rid of it. We don't stop. Do we need the lights and the factory? Yeah, I hate the lights. Very upsetting. Let's just put cheats over the workers like their canaries.

She says, uh. An ex-safety lead at the factory said, quote, it's just a matter of time before someone gets killed. On top of that, there were accusations of rampant racism and sexism. Co-workers and supervisors were accused of using racial slurs. Melvin Barry, quote, my supervisor, called me the N word right in front of other co-workers. And when I heard it, I had to make sure I heard what I heard. Dozens said they heard supervisors and managers use the N word. Black workers were given more physical work and discipline more

There are also references to slavery and offensive graffiti. Oh my god That any other business would have been closed down and Melvin would have owned that business Karen, they're saving the world. Yeah, I think I disagree He does the follow-up was, did you say the N word? What did he, did he double down? Was it? I don't know. I know, I know. I'm not sure.

Well, it sounds like a culture where it's like supported. I did. That's fine. All right, let's go. Super hard court. Oh, man. There's another color he hates. So, a musk people, the musk defenders would be like,

those were black people saying the N word. Like, that's what the story is if you want to counter the racism, but it's like, how the fuck would you know? Well, because, who nobody fucking knows that. Because I'm delusional, and I'm typing about it. This is what I heard. It was on a Tesla forum.

Come on. It's crazy, the excuses people will make for this shit. Also, can you imagine having a, having like a favorite company or a favorite CEO, and then getting online to defend? No, I can't. No, I can't. I can't.

Well, it's the same people. It's also like, whenever you see like the blue checks get a pushback and they're rationale, they're just like, yeah, but it's, I need it, because now I'm able, there's never any reason. It's just that they're just like, I want him to like me. I want him to like that.

That flip of the blue checks immediately, meaning nothing was one of my favorite, like that made me believe in society, because everybody that used to have a blue check, there were no very few people that were in between everyone understood immediately oh we can't have these anymore. Yeah no it's it's been no and now it's terrible sign. Yeah it really is just so it's so ridiculous the way he's the whole thing of like when he was

just like me I want my eight dollars you're just like bro fuck off. He's like I'll take it away. And everyone's like, that would be great. Cause then we can delineate. Yeah. Who's who? And you still can. I mean, yeah, he's. Everything he's doing with Twitter

is what the engineers said he did at Tesla to delay and make problems. Yeah. It's all the same shit. It's all the same shit that that guy that I said was on Twitter with the screenshots of the forum of the engineer guys. It's all the same shit that that guy that I said was on Twitter with that screenshots of the forum of the engineer guys. It's all the same shit.

These are his decisions. This is what he's always done. So you have a good feeling about Twitter. He can't have a grand idea of like, you have to give him credit for like, he pushed the electric car quicker out. Now we have electric cars. That was largely because he pushed it so hard.

But he also didn't invent Tesla. Other guys invented it. He came in after and took it over and pushed it. And the reason Tesla became successful wasn't because Elon Musk's idea, it was because brutal labor conditions. Right, yes. There's no other reason that Tesla became successful. It is brutal dehumanizing labor conditions. Right, yes. There's no other reason that Tesla became successful.

It is brutal dehumanizing labor conditions. And because of the electric car and that he made fart noises, people like those guys in jeans. It's just a prank. I will say my, my child was 13 when he rode in that car and he did consider that to be the greatest thing that ever happened in a car.

Well, is that the demo for a vehicle? It might be. Kind of is. But also, I have to say that before the Twitter takeover and all the things when we started realizing what was actually happening, I got a Tesla and the way that car goes from zero to 70 miles an hour. We have electric cars, it's crazy. It's my favorite. I thought it would be. We have electric cars, it's crazy. It's my favorite.

I thought it would be the inverse for electric cars. Yeah, no. Oh, but too. And learning everything about it, and just being like, oh, I can get any electric car, it'll do the same thing. Yeah.

Is great. Well, that's the thing about electric cars, is you get them when you drive, when you go, oh, gas cars are fucking like the dumb, they're dumb. They're dumb lame things. Yeah. Oh, I go to gas station still and I'll pull my car up and then I'll take the thing out and I'll go,

I don't even need this. I really show them. I do a lot of show-bonding. Ha ha ha. Okay, so Solar City decides they need to make panels because China is slowing down the export of panels. They're gonna start using panels for their own, you know, right? This is the C story in this.

Yeah, it's so funny. Whenever you see the shoulder city, I'm like, oh, right. So it always got the cousins. It comes back. OK. So now solar cities, like, they have to like start making panels, which is not what they do. An industry executive, quote, it's like a car dealer saying, it's suddenly going to make cars. Oh my God.

Elon Musk was chairman. Oh God. Big swing, right? So he's taking one of his big swings again. Solar City bought a panel manufacturer. Then New York State got in, because Cuomo was very excited to have Elon Musk as part of this thing and promised $75 million for a new factory in Buffalo. So

Solar City gets a 10-year lease for $1 a year. They just had to provide jobs, a specific number of jobs, and then they were going to, they said, well, spending like five billion over the 10 years in the state. The debt, however, because again, they're leasing. The debt of solar city is just increasing. Goldman Sachs said it's the worst position company in solar. Oh, no. Goldman Sachs is a quiet of me.

The company then offers something called Solar Bonds. You want to be part of the future by Solar Bonds. No one buys them because they're fucking nonsense. So SpaceX buys 255 million of Solar Bonds. The best. We're looking for a roob. My other company, a lot of them. I'm a roob, I'm an idiot.

I'm Elon's other company. We're interested. We actually love this musk guy. Elon puts in $75 million. He has to take out a big line of credit to do that. So he's got these big debts going on. Elon borrows against Tesla and Solar City stock. Space X and Tesla and Solar City are all supported by huge government subsidies. According to LA Times, at this point,

in the story, in 2015 and cars, making cars. It's renewable energy, but the car thing is huge in subsidies, because all of these states have tax credits and stuff, and we'll get into that a bit more. But yeah, they're getting better. They're getting better. You're not doing anything better. Wait, I have to.

You're here all night. I have to. You're here all night. I did eat dinner. I bought four. I bought four. I bought four. I really get it in a part four. I get it in a lot of it. We save in the world, Karen.

So what was said, he stocked punches in February 2016. They are burning through cash. They burned down. Burned through 659 million in the first quarter of 2016. That's mostly red vines. Yeah. Yeah. Burnt through 659 million in the first quarter of 2016. That's mostly red vines. Yeah. Yeah.

What are you guys doing with all the red vines in there? I don't know, we're just stressed out. We use them as straws when you bite the shot up. Stop telling me the straws. Save in the turtles. Jesus, call my god, this guy again. Elon then suggests to the Tesla board that Tesla should buy solar city.

Oh, interesting. If you guys heard of this plan. Yeah. We're very aware of what's going on. Well, he owns 20% of both companies. We need to get those glands back in his head to see what that does. He also has tons of friends on the Tesla board obviously.

Some who own solar city stock, but the board says no. And they say no twice. But the real problem here was Elon always has to be a success. He's the brand. A failed solar city can really be a dang and used against him. And in May 2016, Tesla agrees to buy solar city can really be a dang and used against him. And in May, 2016, Tesla agrees to buy solar city taking on $3 billion worth of debt. Oh my God.

That's so much money. What the fuck? $3 billion worth of debt. This guy could just have cashed out at some point with such ease. He had $180 million. I mean, even after that, wouldn't he have been able to make it worth more?

I mean, maybe, I don't know, this is all very... It's like, he's like, it's like if Bernie Madoff had Bernie Madoff as a client. Like, he's just like, he keeps pyramid scheming himself. He's like the Dr. Death back surgeon that just kept doing back surgeries when he didn't know what he was doing.

We're just like, one more, give me another shot. That's how that vibe. We're just like, human carnage, I don't care. Yeah. Elon doesn't tell anyone that the solar modules made in Buffalo are gonna cost 20% higher than any other solar company. In a good way.

So they're selling a product that's gonna cost way way more in a good way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he still has to get shareholders to agree. So he holds this weird media event on the set of desperate housewives on the universal lot. What? You cannot tell me Mark Charisen on this. He would never. Oh my god. He wouldn't be that I thought he was. So everyone says, the people who are in the field, and everybody who watches this, says it's one of the most bizarre things you'll ever see.

It doesn't make sense. Well, it's a bizarre setup. Is it being this show? No. It's on the set. It's just on the set. In front of the houses, like these houses. Oh, it's like summertime, they're off season.

Oh, okay. Everyone's gone, and they're like, we can go in that. So now it's time for Desperate C. He talks about global warming, and says the houses by name have a new revolutionary product called Solar Roof. Are you talking about the set of the fake world Desperate housewives? They put them on the houses.

So they're shingles. Who? I mean, it's not you know he has no real friends. He was like, and then we can go to the city of desert people like, for sure. You're saying, sorry, Elon, I just want to bottom line this before we actually sign off on this. You want to put solar city panels on the set of the Desperate Housewives houses to hold that event. You know, that's right.

Great. Just want to make sure I, that's awesome. That's a really good call. And then we take them back off because the studio says we have to return everything to exactly the way it was before we started shooting. Because you can't all of a sudden do. Because they don't live in Solar City now.

Yeah, they're not making a deal with the studio that makes the show. To say, will all these houses city now. Yeah, they're not making a deal with the studio that makes the show. To say, will all these houses have solar? Yeah, right, right. Like that's the deal. That would be worth. Yeah, that's, I mean, yeah, there's a tie in. That'd be cool.

They're not real houses. Oh, stop. Stop. Well, the inside of the ones on Warner Brothers are because, yeah, that's true. Yeah. They're like little, they're just offices that look like houses. They just live in a one of those. What happened? Huh? Just got screwed

me. We'll talk about it later. It's just was the live in the water. He stole all your podcast money. Yeah. But it didn't deserve it. Yeah. He's five boards. Five boards. My death, I bought. So he comes out and he says, these shingles will make it. So it's not, you see solar now, you see the panels right with the big panels. Well, these are actual shingles. I remember they came out and I was like, that's actually a good idea. But insanely expensive. Like you can't afford it. That's a problem for me. I can't. Like it's like $70,000 compared to like you know 20 or 30 years. Yeah. Right. I like to be more for my shingle. I've always been. I got the back so I'm not going to get them.

Elon says they will be cheaper than a regular roof. Sir, just honestly, sir, it's so Trump. It is so Trump. It's just say anything. Yeah. He says a lot of stuff, but it's just fucking bullshit. It's just like people who watch this like this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. One exec who has spent years in solar is watching this and said, quote, I was flabbergasted. I was convinced in the moment that the shingles were fake. He goes and starts a Twitter handle at Tesla charts, just ripping apart and exposing the non-sense of Elon. That begins a movement. There's now these groups online. I think it's called Tesla charts Q or something, and they just tear apart anything that he does and

break down why it doesn't work. It's a huge deal. Tulumelon get divorced again after three years. I made it three this time. First time is one, so they're getting better. So maybe next time. Four tunnel, four tunnel. Yeah, I mean, in other times it'll be six or whatever. He loves. He loves it.

He loves it. He loves it. In December 2016, Elon tweeted that he hated traffic and was going to build tunnels. Then he tweeted, quote, I'm actually going to do this. And he launched the boring company. Go for boy. What?

Boring company is in boring tunnels, but also clearly he's having fun with the name. And we're all having fun. It's so funny. It's really funny. It's really funny. It's the kind of common I wish I could achieve. Yeah. That's great. So he's gonna dig tunnels. Hold on. Let me catch my breath. All right. Now he tweeted in July that boring had quote a verbal government approval to begin building a hyperloop between DC and New York. The media goes fucking nuts. I mean, the way that the government is just funding this madness.

Oh, hold on. Oh, no. Soon after, he tweets, quote, still a lot of work needed to receive formal approval, but I am optimistic that will occur rapidly. That's not happening. You don't wanna live in tube land. At representative Maxime Waters,

like he's just trying to get a hold of some governmental somebody. He just made it up. Yeah. That's so good. Love to hear from you Tommy Tuberville or whatever that's it, isn't it? You don't want to live in a world of Tuberville. They bought a secondhand boring machine. What? I'm sorry? So this is the revolutionary thing. They bought a secondhand boring machine. What, I'm sorry?

So this is the revolutionary thing. They bought a secondhand... Boring machine? Yeah, a tunnel boring machine. That's the gigantic drill you draw forward. Yeah, they bought a secondhand one. Keep going. Why did they sell it?

Yeah, that's a good price. Oh, that's a good price. Like, you don't want one of those, it's kind of broken. Yeah, yeah. Someone's gonna buy it. Yeah. Put it out in the yard. Oh, it's crazy. Two billion? Yeah yeah. Someone's gonna buy it. Yeah. Put it out in the yard. It's crazy.

Two billion. Is it a gross sale? Yeah. What's that thing over there? That'll take you to the center of the earth. But also we have some ash trays we don't use anymore. So whatever you're after.

They named it Godot. Waiting. Oh, we'll get there. The title character from Samuel Beckett's play about a man who never shows up. Governor Hogan of Maryland jumps on this. Come to L.A. visits, takes a look. A few months later, Maryland has a permit for the tunnel and can pay for it. They are ready to go.

Boring just needs to get to work. Boring the company just needs to come out and start working. It's all ready to go. And they waited for good. You cannot tell me that is an accident that they named it that. No, couldn't be. There's no fucking way in hell they know what they're doing. So it's just all all for sure. It's ways to take money from the government in a fake way. Obviously those agreements are about something else. Well, if he's actually getting money, if you are going to pretend to build the tunnel, what's not being built? Uh, the hyperloop or the light rail, yeah, light rail, which is again, so, so,

wow, fucking, so it's just too Fuck the average person over. Yeah, so he can make money for He hates public transportation, right, but what's the Maryland governor whoever agreed to that because to the government it's real cheaper It's cheaper than light rail and they believe it quicker. It's easier. This guy's getting it Get all done. You really thought it was real. They all think it's real. There's tons of people doing this There's tons of places that have bought on with the boring company

Quote boring quote pledge to solve soul destroying traffic It could design tunnel boring machine so fast that it will drive down costs and shake up the industry When a city planned light rail or some sort of rail, suddenly boring company was there to underbid the project. Cities jumped. Chicago wanted one, Ohio to downtown, the Ontario airport in California, Hollywood to Dodger Stadium.

These were all projects were supposed to happen. But Elon hates public transportation, calling it a pain in the ass, not wanting to be on in a tube with other people. He doesn't to be on in a tube with other people. He doesn't want to be in a car with other people. He doesn't want to have anything to do with other people. He says it's gross. What he wanted was tunnels with fast individual electric cars or pods.

It's a rich guy's idea of public transportation. Oh, it's like the subway if you got your own car. Yes. Little, yeah. And pod. Completely inefficient, not what is needed. And specifically, Mr. I'm going to say the world from climate change.

It's the exact opposite of what is needed for climate change. We need trains. Also, it's like reading one science fiction book and then being like, here's my idea. It's a borrowed, boiled down dumb person's's version of that, of good science fiction. We're individualized pods underground. Why don't you have them float in the fucking air?

Yeah, it's like stupid trunks. We'll just sling shot them underground. In 2017, Jose Moran, a Tesla factory employee, went public that he was leading an effort to unionize Tesla. He said workers were constantly getting hurt due to working long hours on unsafe machines, and they made less than other auto workers. Quote, I often feel like I am working for a company of the future under working conditions of the past.

The harassment of Moran and others began the very next day as they handed out leaflets at the factory. Soon Alon was discussing moving Moran and his guys with him to management so they couldn't unionize. Oh, I would think he'd be pro-union. That is some dry wit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha In 2018, Elon became the richest person on earth. It's just so fucking gutting that this fucking guy, it's just that's why the system of favoring money as far as your worth or your intelligence is the dumbest.

Yeah. Because it really just favors the evil being the worst. Yeah, it just gives the worst. It favors sociopaths. It really does. And then they get to redo their image. I mean, Bill Gates is the ultimate example of this sociopath who then spent, was a villain in the 90s

and then spent the next decade redoing his image and now he's like, he's great. Yeah. Well, not my QAnon friends who know for a fact. I know what's right about him. Yeah, that's Epstein's inside of that guy. Yeah. Well, I guess in that way, sure.

I didn't mean it like that. Oh, okay, not in that way. So he became the richest person. I went to Times, leave me alone. He became the richest person. I want you to tie him, leave me alone. He became the richest person when he got a $50.9 billion pay package from Tesla. Some shareholders sued, quote,

what the fuck? Musk exploited his control of Tesla and the board of directors to secure the compensation to fund his personal ambition to colonize Mars. It's just, I mean, these are all things that you sort of, you know a lot of this, like the cliff notes, but this is whole thing. Like the fact that we're normal,

it's been normalized now that it's like, he's gonna try to colonize Mars. Like he's just, he's just a fucking idiot. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. It's so wild and it does all, it's does all, it's like him naming everything X, where it's just kind of like this same thing over and over. Yeah, right, over and over. It is too world of weird, weird way.

Yeah, it really is. He took us to Tubli. Yeah, he really did. You see the same, now you see the same pattern. Yes. When you, when you list it out, it says a bold thing, then gets money to try to achieve it, doesn't, but he somehow makes money

because the grift is pretty good and he's a fucking shithead. It's like what he did calling CNN to say come watch me by this McLaren, where it's like, what do you talk, like we were so confused at that part, where it was like, why would that ever happen? And it's like, because he knows he has that rich people's education. He knows optics, it's all about about optics who gets the story out first,

who says it loudest, who gets so-and-so to repeat it. All that weird shit that people who are raised by civil servants are like, huh? What is this? Yeah, right. What's going on? Yeah, totally. It's fucking, wow.

So shareholders sue. Now the shareholders are like, I believe, I might be wrong about this, but I think it's like, you know, pensions and stuff like that. Like, oh, so whatever people don't know that stuff you need. But he wants friend with board members.

He vacations with the board members, plus Kimbles on the board. Elon tweeted, quote, nothing stopping Tesla team at our car plant from voting union Could do tomorrow if they wanted why pay union dues and give up stop auctions for nothing our safety record is two times better Then when plant was UAW and everybody already gets health care Soon after he was ordered to delete the tweet by a judge. Oh my God. That is, I did not know that was possible.

I did not know that a judge can be like, look, delete that. Look, man. The jury finds that you have to delete the tweet. It's that bad that you have to delete the tweet. We sentence you to, you got to get rid of the tweet. It's just so wrong. It's just such bullshit. What are you can't lie that much on Twitter?

Yeah, basically. You understand what it takes for someone to tell you that your tweet is too full of shit. You legally have to delete your bullshit. It's that bullshit. God damn. Like Trump's on there just like, yeah, don't worry.

Obama, he's a Muslim. And the legal system's like, I mean, they do go ahead. It's free. I mean, easily. I have. You can't tweet that. Well, there's really strict rules about union and what you can do.

Well, the National Labor Relations Board found that Tesla unlawfully interrogated workers to try and get unionized, threatened them with loss of stock options illegally fired one and disciplined another one over union activity, and forbid workers from talking to the press. Tesla, besides deleting the tweet, had to back pay pay, rehire the worker, remove disciplinary records, and put up a notice of Tesla's labor violations at its California plant for workers to read.

Well, the whole thing there, too, is like that basically has become the model of how you break unions, of how you break like union organization. I mean, that has been replicated over and over again by like Starbucks, by Amazon. That's basically the model. Well, I don't know for sure, but probably immediately called up the Pinkertons or Raven and they came in and did their shit. Like, this is what it sounds like. But what's really cool and not to sound like a dipshit, but it makes me very happy how

young people know about labor law these days and union stuff in a way that like in 2008, no one gave a shit, we were on a strike for four months, it was unpopular if not just like your problem, whatever. And these days, and I think it's absolutely beautiful, like young people would know those labor violations. There's a lot of people who know, especially California labor law, which is so fucking intense and so powerful, like everybody is getting hip

to all this shit and it's amazing. Yeah, it is. It changes every time. We're still going to have to cut his head off. Yeah, we're going to cut his head off. I mean, huh? What? I mean, one of them allegedly, allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly. So SolarRoof starts finally being produced in 2018. Again, I see a story. According to Vanity Fair. I'm like, all right, this plot. Yep.

According to Vanity Fair, sales are terrible. MIT technology called SolarRoof a flop. It was discovered New York had quietly rewritten the requirements for the $750 million Bonanza. Now the far fewer jobs are required of Solar City and also worst jobs. Exactly what happens when you do like a Foxcon or something like that where you just basically you because to save face because they got conned, they're not like, look, just, they could look okay.

Yeah, they look like a dumbass. Or you were reluctant. And then several of Cuomo's people at his offices were convicted of, it's fraud behind the scenes for all the Buffalo builds and all that stuff. Yeah. Do you ever listen to that song by the Beach Boys Co. Cuomo

when you're surfing? Some, that works in like four different bad ways. I know, you're terrible person. Yeah. Some Thai school kids, this reminds me of you. Some Thai school kids and their coach got stuck in an underwater cave. Elon say I don't sound like you. It doesn't sound like you.

Hey, let's go figure out what we're, how far does this kid go? We're getting the part about you. Oh, okay, well, this is the aquatic part which reminds us of you. Us, we unionized. Oh yeah, we're together. Yeah.

Elon said that. Elon said he could save, send a submarine to save them. A rescue diver, Vernon Unsworth, said Elon's idea was a PR stunt. So Elon called him, quote, a peto guy. Now we're over to you. That's me, what's behind the peto guy?

Yeah. You got nuclear, yeah. We're just poking fun at you, little sandwich, sir. I'll wear a peto man, I'll have a peto. He's gonna full cue and on on me. You got to leave that tweet. What are you eating babies? Really quick though, sorry.

That originally was a tweet, right? So Elon's tracking, this terrible story that everyone was tracking on Twitter as we used to do back then. And he was basically like, I'm gonna be a part of this. Yes, and not only a part of it, I'm gonna be the hero. This is how you can do it. And all he's really doing is just siphoning off

attention to again make those sick of fans be like, oh wow, he's just the best. Look at him again. Where it's like Tony Stark. He didn't do anything. No, he didn't do it. He didn't look at the guys, the divers are down there that like,

it's really complicated. You gotta go between rocks and it's like, it's not that thing isn't gonna work and he's just up there blessed. Have you thought about building a tube down there? The boring company will take a meeting with you now. Well, we can definitely dig through there. Elon then sends Buzzfeed an email claiming unsworth

was a child rapist living in Thailand so he could marry a child with absolutely no evidence. Oh my God. Holy shit. Jesus Christ. That's what you just did to me, by the way. Yeah, that's true. But you're a petto guy. Stop God. Holy shit. Jesus Christ. That's what you just did to me, by the way. Yeah, that's true.

You're a pedo guy. Stop it. That's true, too. Stop it. I like to play both sides against the middle. God damn it. Cause I'm Peter Teal in this situation. God damn it.

Uh, unsworths, soos for libel. Oh, one more crown. Even. Come on. Yeah, he's just joshing. Yeah. Have a little funbel. Oh, one more grounds. Elon, come on. He's just joshing. Yeah. Have a little fun. What's your guy?

Elon claims first amendment rights and that it is obviously an exaggeration to the absolute shock of many the judge agrees with Elon. No. I mean, come on. The judge's such a self. I mean, come fucking on.

That's a softball. I mean, he didn't retire. He retired soon after the judge. The judge did. But come, fuck it, really. Yeah. Really? He called the guy, you know what you do in this case?

You just pay it off. Yeah, right. You pay it off and you make it go away. Yeah. What the fuck is this? There's no way. So you get to call someone a petto and send a libelous fucking email

to BuzzFeed to try to get them a write up a story on the guy. Okay, but that over all that does is that fuel that makes, I mean, he's like, well, okay, cool, I can do this. That's not what the first amendment fucking is. Yeah, we're both. No, yeah. Anyway, he won that. So I guess we're all wrong. Mm-hmm. That year, 70-year-old,

Errol Musk had a child with his 30-year-old ex-step daughter, Janna. Buh. Buh. Let's take a pause on that one. Buh. Ha ha ha ha. Things got weird.

Wait. Things got weird. What happened? One more time? Now we're back on Elon's side. Yeah. 72-year-old, Elon's side. Yeah, 72 year old. Elon's dad, Errol Musk, had a child

with his 30 year old ex-step daughter, Jana. Oh my God. Have we heard from Jana? Jana's had some issues. Jana's had some drug addiction problems. She's definitely had some hard times up until now. Well, I don't know if up until now. I mean.

He's known her since she was four. Oh, sweet, fantastic. Oh, I jam it. He was married to Janice Mom for 18 years. Oh, my God. When he talked to the press about this, he said he could barely remember Janice Mom. Well, that doesn't help me.

Oh. Error. Now the deal with the deal with Elon and Error this one is when he got them I think of the hundred and he may know it must have been the first money. Anyway, he brings Error and Janet out in 2002, sets them up in Malibu. They leave. But I think it's the whole group of them. The whole family. I know it's there. And then, they bail in 2003 and Arles was like,

I had to do it in secret and get my passports without anybody knowing and bail in the middle of the night. Like he made it seem like they had to get out because they're being controlled. So whatever the fuck is going on here, it's completely bizarre. And Arrell is clearly worse than anybody in the fucking story. Yeah. Yeah. He's a monster, an absolute fucking monster. Arrell said the birth led to a follow-up between him and Elon. Good. But also like, buddy, that had happened a while ago, but this was just like, this was like,

I hate you to, oh my God, what are you? Yes, yeah. Apparently Elon doesn't approve the relationship and thought it was a bit creepy. Good for some reason. That's good. Yeah, it's strange to be like good for him. It is an interesting point to get in this story

where it's like it all goes back. It's a line. It all goes back to the source. And it's coming from somewhere and that somewhere is an unknowable terror. Yeah, that's someone who had a terrible father but then got a lot of fucking therapy. This is what happens when you don't get therapy.

Yeah. That's what Elon is. And if he has gotten therapy, he's got a very bad one. Yeah. But he hasn't. He hasn't because you can see, hasn't because he, when he goes on and on, it's an omission of failure. But he also starts crying.

He almost starts crying when he talks about it. He would, you did an interview with Rolling Stone, and he just starts crying with the interviewer. He's talking about his dad and it's like, yeah, you haven't gone to fucking therapy, dude. You haven't worked this shit out and now you're working it out on the fucking world. Well, and also that it's very much all those dudes

that are like, I'm the alpha, you don't have a voice, blah, blah, blah, all the same thing. And it is like, you, that is all, you can't have gone to therapy and be talking like that. It's childish, kind of, and rotate pretend world of like all those, all the phrasing even is like, this is just what 13-year-old boys

are saying to each other online. You as an adult should not be, like believing in a red-pilled system or whatever the fuck you're doing because you have, adult should not be like believing in a red-pilled system or whatever the fuck you're doing because you have, it's not about the outside world. You need to go in or... You need the Robin Williams Goodwill hunting hug.

Yes. It's not your fault. He's like, you're the one who's the best. Yeah. Come here, Will. That was a little point in a very bad story. Oh, yeah, that's really really difficult.

It really is. It was really, really. Yeah. Elon settles with the SEC over a tweet in which he claimed he had funding secured to take Tesla private part of it because you can't fucking say that. Right. If you're a public company, you don't just get to blurt shit like that out. Yeah, it's bullet manipulation.

Part of the settlement requires him to get pre-approval from lawyers for certain tweets. So it's totally bad. This is, I mean, I don't want to keep doing it, but it's so Trump. Yes. I mean, just the level of like, he just says it to bullshit you. And that's... Because he's already done it with like a car company where he he's walked on the floor and gone take away all the yellow and they did it and people got hurt and nothing really happened and he still he

still gets fifteen billion dollars so like yeah then he's like people are like say stop doing those tweets and he's like we'll see yeah the existence of a guy like this or I mean truly is a governmental failure. Yeah, this is a governmental failure. He is a governmental failure. Also, he Tesla said he didn't get rid of the yellow paint. Oh, my apologies. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Right. So after he tweeted about maybe selling a large portion of his Tesla shares, the SEC subpoenaed him for violating the agreement. And Tesla's stock dropped sharply after the tweet, leading to an investigation into insider trading because Kimball had sold 108 million shares the day before. Oh. Well, come on. Transcendence guy, relax. That happens all the time.

Yeah. Yeah. He happened to our Congress. Well, come on. Crisis is guy, relax. That happens all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Happens to our Congress. But this is the point where I get to the point. I'm like, okay, so that's bad, but that's what Congress does. So what in the fuck do you want me to do with this?

Yeah. Like this is when you're like, why? Who gives a shit at this? Well, they can't do anything. They're literally just insider trading all fucking day and night. They can't. So why do you doing? Yeah.

No, they've all decided instead of trying to bring it up to the other person, like, shut the fuck up, just keep doing it. You do it, too. We're all doing it. But the part I don't understand is, I mean, sure, that means he had this tweet planned a day in advance, which that alone is very sad. But you're doing a tweet that's going to highly negatively impact your own business. It doesn't make sense.

Well, it doesn't make sense. But like I said, it's just blustering and nonsense. He's not thinking clearly when he does this. Except for the plan part. Except for the plan part, but also like, again, pensions. So when it loses that much value, it's taking money away from people's retirement, like at the end of the day.

And that's part of the plan. No, it's just him being an idiot. So, oh him collateral. Yeah, just collateral damage. Got it. Elon accuses the SEC of a harassment campaign restricting his right to free speech. Oh, fucks.

And that's when these idiots are like, Exactly. Yeah, but it's just like, dude, you are in charge of a fucking company. Yeah. There are rules. Oh, I'm sorry there's rules, but you don't get to you are in charge of a fucking company Yeah, there are rules. Oh, I'm sorry. There's rules But you don't get to say whatever in the fuck you want why because the stock just dropped you dumb asshole What if a fucking pension company had had to sell a bunch to fucking meet something the next day? Oh now they can't you're an idiot. You're an asshole. Yeah It's like a you're talking a meteorite. Yes.

So mad at you right now. I know. He's really. When COVID hit, Elon tweeted on March 6, 2020, quote, the coronavirus panic is dumb. I remember because it was March 17th, I were on the road and I was like, we're not going to make, we just wanted to get to the next shows which were Seattle and Portland and the whole time we were tracking it and I was like, yeah, it's not going to happen. Yeah, the beginning of March, I was like, this is all going to get shut down. We might get to do a couple more shows, but it's going to be fucked. I told Bert Christch was like, what? What? What?

Bert Christch was like, what do you mean? And I was like, you're going to cancel your world tour and he's like, what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? But remember, the things you were saying, most people are like, what are you talking about? Like, I was like, sure, buddy.

Anyway, do you have the hotel in focus? I really want a bit better, you know? So I knew what was going on. He's smart enough to know when the fuck is going on. It wasn't that fucking hard. And then, sure enough, people start dying all over the place. And he changes his tune. There's a huge shortage of ventilators, like 20,000 short for what is needed.

The Washington Post reported an Elon's report. Washington's on purpose. The Washington Post reported an Elon said on Twitter that Tesla would make ventilators if needed and he shipped a Thousand ventilators that he bought from somewhere else to hospitals But they turn up to be the kind used for sleep apnea not what is needed for COVID so we thought all those people died Thanks for nothing that is insane Some of them are just props from Top Gun. Yeah.

We're not sure what happened. That is insane. I remember seeing that. I mean, that's like so dumb. I remember seeing that tweet and being like, oh, thank God, someone's doing. Right. That was the early days where we were all wiping down

our cereal boxes. Like if you went to the grocery store, God forbid. And everyone's so scared, no one knows what the fuck is going on. It's like people are going into the hospital and not coming out. And then he fucking sends this tweet of like, I'm on this, I'm getting these respirators. And they were fucking- They were asleep after you, Michigan. That's insane.

You know, it's very, what it really is, it's like when a news organization or a paper had promotes or prints something totally incorrect and then puts their retraction on page 24. Like because you hear that and you remember that and then you don't know that part. You don't know that what he actually sent were useless machines. But people go, he's such a magnanimous, generous individual.

Look at him, so he's giving. Or they'd go, there's people that were snoring on the fourth floor of Los Angeles. Those people never slept better. They'll never slept better. Blue Jack, I booked some month. People slept so good. There were some people that were,

oh, they were useful because they can help you get a little bit of air in, but we're talking about people who needed to breathe in for them. Right. Esley Fafnian machine does not do that. Sure. That's not what it is. At all. And he got into an argument,

like, they were like, those are two intrusive. Like, these are the non-intrusive ones. Dr. Steeves, do you? Dr. Steeves, you don't need intrusive, like it was that kind of showing on. Right, right, amazing, to get on the weeds of that. I give him a bunch of chloroceptic.

Like, Jim and Ford immediately jumped into, they immediately made government contracts to make ventilators, so they went in and got money, and Elon said he would do it. He said, Tesla would open a factory in Newark to make ventilators if needed and it never happened. He's like a co-cat. Well, I mean, he says that we'll just,

we'll make a bunch of ventilators and we'll open solar cities. Maybe another. I mean, you try to get into the psychology of it. So it's this kid who never had friends and nobody liked him and all this stuff, but he had, he read in Cyclopedias. So that's really what he is still.

He's the kid coming in going, I can fix this. I know how to fix this still he's the kid coming in going I can fix it I know how to fix this yeah like everything that happens. I know how to fix it like when it's like when it's like the extreme hyper crazy example of when A woman explains their problem a man tells her how to fix it as opposed to just listening and going okay I see where you're at. I'm sorry. You're going through that right? That's what that's like the difference that happens. And this is like the hyper crazy example of it to the whole fucking country.

The alpha example of it, really. Yeah, yes. To any problem that comes up and also it's the danger of social media because right then when you guys did that little play, I was like, oh, those Elon Musk, people who are for him and advocates of him, they're really just like kind of like hopeless optimists and they just want this to be real.

So they're kind of like, I see the good in this. I see what he means by this. I am also smart and I see what the intention is and why he keeps getting like attacked for it. When it's like, but you're actually missing the correction, which is it was the wrong machine. And I'm sorry because the label of genius is keeping you from understanding that that isn't,

as book smart as he might be, it's not happening in that way. You see it too when you really are reading the blue check defenses of these. It's not happening in that way. You see it too when you really are reading the blue check defenses of these, like, they will not concede. At all. Ever. You know, they will just, they're like, they will carry water for him endlessly.

No, Matt, they'll carry so much water, Dave will take Graham to where they have to go. Ride some sick, some sick, some sick ridgies or whatever you call them to. But yeah, they really do. They like, and then they'll get, and there's always the thing that's so funny is when they get owned, then they're just gone.

You're like, well, that's good. Which actually sounds like a bot. I mean, there's gotta be bots. If he has that much money, there's definitely bots out there taking up for him in that way. There has to be. I can't imagine that there wouldn't be. I mean, yeah, you have to gain the system.

I wonder, like he's never gonna, we're never gonna find out that shit because Twitter will just go away and we won't. They'll have him killed, yeah. What the fuck? Okay, so, it's just this whole story is just miserable. It's motivating.

It is not even good. But it's, anyway. So he, he, I feel good, right? I feel great. Yeah, it's a good. Yeah, he then starts downplaying COVID quite a bit. Getting the sport of Trump and other right wingers on March 19th, 2020, he said by the end of April, cases would be close to zero. He praised Texas when Texas opened up in April 2020 by the, you know, all the right-wingers

screaming about lockdown. Oh, yeah. They should actually read, I don't know, some sort of newspaper or something because they did not fucking lockdown. Anywho. Sorry about your month, you fucking cry, babies. When California was locked down, he threatened to move the Tesla factory to Texas or Nevada, even though he continued with expansion plans in California.

Then he defied the law and reopened the plant. An Alameda County caved, even though many workers said they didn't feel safe and protested. Between May and December, there were 440 cases at the plant that we know of. They didn't feel safe before COVID. Right. Yeah, it's just worse. Business is usual. Well, just think about that like you. And they have ventilators now that they can use. I mean, sure, they might be taking little maps. They can snap them right onto their bill buckle. Why are you guys sleeping so much? their bill buckle. Why are you guys sleeping so much? But yeah, if you're working on unsafe plant and that now you need the plant to be made safe from COVID, that's not that's not the

guy. No. In June 2020, Musk and Grimes had a baby, which they named X-A-12, or as we remember from the technocracy uh... one x one eight zero nine x five six oh my god fucking talk about shit repeating itself whether it's conscious or unconscious or whatever the fuck it is oh my god Jesus christ what is fucking happening with this god damn story no that part that is crazy oh my god that is crazy i mean i saw the name and i was like, that ain't a good idea.

But I didn't think like, oh yeah, that's a technocracy call back. That's a little salute to grandpa, great grandpa, and his fascist leaning. Yeah. Fucking A. Jesus. Elon believed smart people should have more kids to keep a quote replacement right.

And but smart, he means white. For sure. Yeah. Guess who also believes in having children? His dad, who had a second kid with his ex-step daughter in 2012, which he called, quote, completely normal. The only thing we are on earth for is to reproduce, which is now what Elon Musk is fucking saying.

He's saying, we're having a negative population thing going on although we need to reproduce it's fucking dad go to therapy. Also the negative population thing is it's straight out of white supremacy handbook it's wildly. Their reproduction is not anybody but white people that's not what they're talking about. Yeah they're not worried about the planet. Well there is some good news. In 2021, Hyperloop Vegas opened.

Oh my God, yeah, the casino, right? It's 2.8 mile one direction tunnels with their wings of the Las Vegas, they connect wings of the Las Vegas Convention and visitors actual wings are we what kind of wings? Connects the last two Connects two parts of the not actual wings. This is not real wings. They're the wings were doors These are just tunnels that I can go in the room and when there's actual wings to talk about I'd like you to let me know

Individual Teslas are driven through tunnels just inches wider than the cars and each ride is just under two minutes. So hyper loo! And there's colored lights. Have you been in it? Not yellow. I just saw pictures of the no yellow. I saw pictures, I think it was in the LA times.

What the fuck? And that was where that thing where I'm like, I kept reading it because I was like, what is it? But it's not, the car isn't pulled through the tunnel, like magnetically so that it's not using any energy, it literally is just a tunnel to drive through. And people wait and buy tickets. Yeah.

Oh my God. A boring company has a 50 mile contract to sell the tickets. Oh my God. Sorry a 50 mile contract to sell the ticket. Oh my sorry 50 50 year contract. So they so it it's just it's the fakes version of it's essentially Las Vegas's version of the Christmas light show that they do in Griffith Park you know yeah it's like brought to you by so Cal Edison or whatever and it's just like a reindeer that kind of moves. It's like one of those but it's called a float.

Right, oh my God. Exactly. It's just like well used lights. And then people are like, yo, what are they gonna get on the future machine? Yeah, I mean, they did it in Vegas because desert land is the very easiest to build. Right.

because desert land is the very easiest to build tunnels in. Boring says it can dig seven miles a day of tunnels and they will revolutionize tunneling. Wall Street Journal quote, veterans of the tunneling industry note that tunnel boring machines have been electrified for decades and neither continuous construction of the tunnel lining nor digging in from above ground is new. Diggittunnels is not about speed, it's about the complexity of what's underground. And he just decided because he was mad at traffic and he fucking tweeted that. And now this is what's happening. Also, you know, I'm going to base this on cartoons, which I think he does too. Sometimes there's skeletons underground, sometimes there's treasure. Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff.

Sometimes there's, you know, like an album. An album or a karaoke, too. You're trying to, yeah, you're seeing it. You're going to get yourself into quite a little predicament if you're not careful, Bunny. You're going to get yourself into quite a little predicament if you're not careful, buddy. Good O never came to Maryland. In 2021, boring just deleted the project from its website. Wow. Oh.

It appears to be a company just created to stop rail projects. But just last year, VC firms invested $675 million into boring. It's valued at $5.7 billion. For Diculous. None of the projects have started. Just ridiculous. Did I mention that he hates public transportation? Yes, ridiculous.

But the value, I mean, that's crazy. It's like we're finding out in this two-part dollop that what Elizabeth Holmes did was conservative and reasonable and basically standard. She didn't name high enough. She didn't and she didn't go for it in the way that all the boys are doing it in Silicon Valley because basically everything is Bitcoin and cryptocurrency and NFTs and it's all. Well, to Sarah. Yeah, right. It's just a bunch of lies and cryptocurrency and NFTs and it's all. Well, I would choose Arrow.

Yeah, right. It's just a bunch of lies and bullshit and getting some bros to give you some of the money. Money for your dumb thing. I mean, this is what business has always been. I mean, if you go to the DAW, but it's like guys acting like a mine is worth a ton and it's nothing. Like it's just over and it's just a grift.

It's just building people of fucking cash. But I guess the mind thing though at some point you go in the mind, you're like, oh it's bullshit. Like this feels like you never get to see the inside of the mind. I just feels like eventually this will just go away. I mean if it was real they would have started building it in places like Maryland. They would have started building it. Of course. One place. Just one place they would have started building one place, just one place they would have started. Cause they have contracts like Chicago

and all these other places, it's not happening anywhere. But the thing I think is amazing about the tunnels and the boring company is that it is just a single car tunnel with no space. So if there's somehow an accident in this tunnel, with a car that catches on fire. With these cars and half.

Like, it's a half. Oh my god. You just be like farting, like, help, help, help. Hit the fart button. Help, help, help. Someone's in trouble. Help, danger, danger, danger. You're just a serious stuff farting.

It's serious. I can't stop farting. Guys, where are there's a fire down there? Get the fireman down there. Fire. Oh god, dammit. I just wish I could stop the farting. Here, open the glove compartment.

It doesn't fucking open. I don't want to karaoke right now. OK, come on, everybody. We need to start the fire. It was all, oh my god, Keith's on fire. Keith is now on fire. Also, the thing about those electric cars, I don't know if you read about it,

but they're like, they fucked shit up. Like, they're having a hard time putting out the fires. It just gets so crazy hot. It burns through the road. Like, it's a total shit show. So, you can do that in a tunnel. Okay, like, it doesn't make any sense. Does for Vegas somehow.

It makes sense for a guy. Yeah, I'm not for Vegas. It seems to make sense. I mean, he really sold the idea like Los Angeles would just be a whole town of just tunnels and we'll all drive in tunnels. And everyone was like, But imagine, but that's only electric cars.

Are you gonna drive down there in a fucking regular car with all the fumes coming out? It's just for electric cars. It's just for electric cars. It's just for electric cars. Well, how could you do it in? There's not vents for a regular... How could you do this with... With hotbox the middle of the air.

How could you do it? Anyway, it's a one-way fucking tunnel. It's a one-way tunnel. It doesn't take your electric car into it and then, oh, we're going to use magnets to pull you in and make you go. It's just you driving in a tunnel. Yeah, it's really. Beer cats do it better. I'd quicker.

In 2022, Elon offered to buy Twitter for $44 billion, then tried to back out. So Twitter sued, and he counter sued, saying he was misled. And the $44 billion was an inflated rate He claimed Twitter didn't do enough to weed out things like fake spam Bought accounts and their verification process wasn't thorough the CEO tweeted details of how they police spam accounts And Elon replied with a poo emoji It's so funny to think of him flagging their verifications.

Right? Yeah. Right? Like, that was one of his gripes. That was one of his gripes. And it turns out it was the only thing really working really well. Oh, and then he's just, oh, he's given all these idiots. Oh, it's amazing. He lost. He had to buy Twitter. It's like a sitcom pilot. You really don't have to buy Twitter, are you idiot? It literally is, because now I want to skip to

and I steal this line from you. His day one at Twitter when he walked in holding the kitchen sink. Oh, yeah. Like I'm pretty disconnected with many things intentionally. And I remember seeing that and my whole spine, the cringe that I was doing, it just wouldn't end. And I'm like, you didn't do it Karen, you're fine.

You're here in Los Angeles, you didn't do that. And it was just like, so I was like a natural. It's like, oh my God. It's like when your friend, your study on comedy, your friend has a really big fucking showcase. They get let him on over and they go up and they just tank and they're eating it and you're just like, that feeling of just like dread

and horror, that's what it felt like watching him walk in. It was really that. This is a guy embarrassing himself on a level he doesn't understand it. He doesn't understand it and he doesn't, he thinks and believes, which I know, I'm sure he's read about all this at this point, but it is that innocence of like,

I got my money and I'm gonna do this now and you're gonna fucking love it because you've loved it in the past and I've gotten away with it in the past and it's like, it's not the fucking past and this is like a new level. It's the public, it is so public. So public.

And, but it also is such a perfect, if you really had to kind of condense it all down into a photograph of what this experience, it is like that is basically what the experience has been. Yeah. A shit head with too much money walking in with a dumb joke that doesn't work and making everyone feel uncomfortable. And the plan to ruin all of it. Like now you just don't get to have this one fucking thing that got you through like COVID or whatever. Like, well at least there's these smart people. And I can at least I can read.

I can follow, I can follow it. And the indicator to myself. Yeah. Tesla was fined $275,000 in 2022 by the EPA. Tesla is a repeat violator of air pollution limits. In 2019, the EPA fined Tesla $31,000 and they had to pay $55,000 to the Fremont Fire Department for at least four fires that happened in the Tesla paint shop. Oh, and in 2021, Tesla was fined $1 million by the Bay Area air quality management district for 33 violations.

Oh my God. Tesla has been issued 42 environmental violations between 2017 and 2020. By the way, he's saving us from climate change. Yeah, I mean, all the good vibes of having an electric car. It just doesn't matter. having an electric car. Right. It doesn't matter.

It's absolutely erased. Yeah. Last month, the US Justice Department announced it is pursuing SpaceX for discriminating against refugees in its hiring practices. Elon said in an interview that the US should quote, get rid of all federal subsidies, just delete them all. Environmental regulations require car companies not meeting emission standards to pay fines or by credits from other companies that are complying with the rules.

No one had more credits to sell than Tesla. Between 2008 and 2019, sales of regulatory credits brought Tesla over $2 billion. Tesla would not have survived without government credits. It wasn't until the second quarter of 2021 that Tesla reported more income than it got from regulatory credit sales. Well, that's great. Tesla wouldn't exist without this credit plan

to try to push companies to build more electric vehicles. So he's just buying the credits of companies that are not doing that. And he's acting as if he is reinventing the wheel and doing all this shit. Well, it's essentially just Ben up and tell, 2021, a gift. He beneditated from COVID more than any fucking human being. His company would

be totally fucked without all that shit. Without working through COVID and... Without the Tesla took off during COVID because I also don't know why what exactly the reasons were, but during COVID, the whole fucking company just skyrocketed. Not X-rocketed though, because I don't want to cry. It's not extra-rocket. But yeah, so the company exists because of government like regulations and then he's up there saying get rid of all federal subs. It's what he's making money from. Yeah. And so he's basically saying he's

trying to pretend he wants small government like he's trying to be the classic. He's doing whatever that political stance. He's saying private companies can do better than anybody else. Private companies are the answer. Subsidies aren't needed while just existing because of a government credit for EVs. Sorry what's the I don't get that idea where you can buy credits from other companies. Well it's a bullshit capitalist answer to climate change. But it's... So then, and do they still count if you buy them, if he buys them from Hyundai?

They buy them from Tesla. So he has made a certain number of Teslas. And Toyota has made none. Well, Toyota now needs 200, as if they sold 200,000 cars under that, under EV. So now they have to go to Tesla and go, can I buy 200,000 credits from you?

And now they're okay. It doesn't do anything for climate change. It's absolutely bullshit. No, but I mean also, why is it allowed? Or like how is that? Because it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, trying to force that other company to start making EVs. They want to force the company to start making EVs.

They wanna force the company to not make EVs to make EVs. That's what it's about. What, wouldn't just finding them do it? Or you kinda can't do that. Sorry, I don't know. I honestly, no, it's not. It's a good discussion to have. But this is the kind of stuff where it gets into like greenwashing and are these policies

actually doing anything? And you know, you would say no. Like it's not like- No, it's just giving Tesla extra money because people are gonna buy those Teslas anyway. Like Tesla just got money from other companies. That's how they survived. Right.

Of these government credits. Like they're, it's, you know, a version of welfare, you know. Wee. It is more? It is. It's more? According to. Stop.

Sir, no more. According to the information SpaceX has earned 15.3 billion from the government since 2003. So they're just mostly government contracts and stuff that they get to just, you know, he doesn't like the government and subsidies at the same time. He's just getting government contracts from the government that are largely always over-blown. It's the government. They always pay too much.

His ownership of Twitter has been a mind-boggling disaster. Gobs of people were immediately fired, violating labor laws in different countries. CNN explained why workers on foreign worker contracts, HB1 visas, were especially vulnerable. Quote, they have a limited window of time to find a new employer, adjust to another visa or leave the US.

The 60-day grace period starts from the last day of employment. So those people couldn't go anywhere. Other people can quit Twitter and go find another job, but they're fucking stuck. And so those are the people who make for 18-hour days. He's converting offices into rooms for people to sleep in, the city had to come in and say, no, you're absolutely not allowed to do that, that's illegal,

but he's wanting them to sleep in the offices and work, and that's who he can do it to. Because they're fucked if they aren't working. Does it remind you any sort of government that he grew up under? No. Oh, shit. Well champoning free speech, because they're all fucking from like, you know, you go look at them, they're not white guys. All those faces you see the pictures, then all these people he's doing it to their own. And then he's like, look at my diverse work for. While champoning free speech, he has suspended leftists like Chad Loader. From MTV? and it left us like Chad Loader.

From MTV? Yeah. Oh, look her, her. Oh, goddammit. Chad, if you're lucky that I'm a bigger nerd, it was close for you. Chad is a Southern California reporter and cyber security expert who goes by day, right wing activists

pretending to be journalist Andy, I don't know, Sandy. You know, and Gio? Yeah, I don't know. I'd probably, I would think. Andy and Gio, who has ties to violent right wing groups, began pointing out to Elon, who to suspend. Loader has been very active in identifying and exposing the actions

of Southern California Nazis. After Angayo pointed out loader, an internal Twitter message was sent out regarding loader's account, quote, suspension, direct request from Elon Musk. This was the beginning of Twitter becoming a right wing cesspool using free speech as an excuse to allow hate and getting rid of leftist,

smart voices. Twitter suspended accounts were unsuspended, including ones like blatant fascist Nick Fletes, Connie returned for a bit to yell about the Jews, etc. on and on, advertisers flit. Because they don't want to see like the Jews are bad next to like, by a Toyota. Right. As did users, Twitter stopped paying rent on its San Francisco offices. In July, he threatened to sue the Center for countering digital hate, a nonprofit

that conducts research on social media, accusing them of making quote, a series of troubling and baseless claims that appear calculated to harm Twitter generally, and it's digital advertising business specifically. As of this recording, Elon has said he will sue the ADL for trying to get advertisers to leave Twitter. This should happen, though. This absolutely should happen because discovery would allow us to see how truly fucking stupid he has been with his ownership of Twitter. Right.

So which means he won't do it, which means it's probably a Trump thing. He can't do it. He literally cannot, he cannot slew the ADL. The idea of suing the ADL over what they've said about it, it's just... So it's going to lead to very bad things, so being the ADL. Yeah. I think the ADL is a monstrous organization Yeah, right. They're the one who attack people are like pal city and should live. Yeah But they also are a pretty strong voice against anti-Semitism

So what happens immediately is On rising I think it was yesterday the the day before, so rising is, is Bionic, Greyjoy, is leftist, and then this fucking piece of shit. We are the libertarian shit. The libertarian guy, and that guy, for 20 minutes, just starts explaining why the ADL is done all this shit, and made up all this stuff. And it's shit, you're watching it, and it's just teetering on this gross, anti-Semitic, explanatory fucking garbage. But it was fucking gross.

It made my screen call skin crawl, like nothing I have seen in a while. And that is what happens when guys like this do this. Twitter isn't fucking failing because the ADL is pointing out to advertisers. Twitter's failing because you have fucking hate speech all over the goddamn site. Attacking trans people, attacking, you know, gays,

fucking anybody, they're just attacking people, they're fucking fascist pieces of shit. On top of all this, Elon has a trans kid who has written them off, and part of that is why he's swinging right. Like he's got all these anti-trans opinions now because he has a fucking trans kid who swarms off. But he also, I think, this swinging right option that we've seen lots of people do in the last 10 years,

surprisingly, where it's like, it's such a weird part of our culture now that it's ratcheted everything up so intensely, where like online discourse, it doesn't exist anymore. No, it's garbage. Like, the idea that there is any of it when there are these, like everyone's just taking these camps and a lot of people are just picking like the camp that, like, their bros are at

or the camp that they think will make them feel better or something. And I mean, I think when you're like, when you look at the entertainers who go there, I mean, having been, like having all of us been in this business and struck, like they just are going where the heat is. Yeah. Like he's, they're just like, this is where I get the follows, the likes, the clicks, the engagement,

the money, all that stuff. And that really just always does come down to this. It is. It's just the dumbest system when it's like, if you have the most money, you win. Yeah. And I always think that because I'm like, there's no way, I mean, I feel,

it's sometimes so hard to tell what to these people actually believe and what are they simply doing just because it's especially with comedians. Yeah, comedians have become, I mean, you know, I'm sure we've all seen it like, you were looting to like over and over again where you're just like, what the fuck are you doing? Like this whole, there is this whole thing of like,

you're getting canceled for what you can and can't say. But it's just like, that's not true. Right. Like you're really pretty much able to say whatever you want. If people are opposed to it, well then yeah, but you instead, you're like pretty much able to say whatever you want. If people are opposed to it, well then yeah, but you instead, you're like, I'm in the crosshairs. I'm fighting for your fucking freedoms. And it just seems to be so effective because sort of what you were even saying before about those blue checks who support him. There's just this thing that's missing. And it's been taken away.

thing that's missing and it's been taken away and it's just it's this whole and they're figuring out ways to fill it with to justify it to kind of rationalize it and to basically say no I it's not that I am completely I have no self-reflection no self-accountability yeah it's not that I have a huge father wound or a mother wound that I can't acknowledge or whatever. It's that I'm a hero fighting for your right to be able to be racist publicly. Which is like, it doesn't add up. It isn't a smart way to go. And it also is perfectly like sinks up with the then exposed bad behavior of like say any of these comedians we could be thinking about right now where it's like then it is exposed that they were dating a 15-year-old or whatever fucked up thing and

it's like and we're right back to how like our our rights now I'm being canceled can you believe this shit and it's all working it's in a way that's it's is it working it's like well it kind of is I mean it feels like people are It depends who it is. Yeah, but there's certainly a number that I can think of who you're like we don't you don't like It shouldn't exist. Yeah, and yet it seems at times to be thriving in ways. I don't know. Or it's just where we know now where there is contention and anger and like fighting that is where attention goes. Yeah, totally. It's like we it's either the cutest kitten in the world or two people starting a

fist fight in a parking lot. Yeah even when you watch news or something, it's all falling under that idea of point, counter point, where it's like, well, yeah, I don't really need to see a guy who sympathizes with Nazi's debate, a person who's just a little more rational. Like that doesn't, I don't need that opinion out there. And you never, it isn't ever a debate because no smart person would ever engage in it. It's always the people that are like, I have the right to not wear a mask and scream in your face and take over

the school board and all these different fucking things. And that, that is also in my opinion, those people, home alone, retired, divorced, kids don't talk to them, only getting one feed of like fear and anger all the time, and then go, they're basically going out into the world going, I don't know what to do anymore. Like I'm my last, you know, I'm on my last leg, or if it's the comments we're talking about, it's like I'm not relevant anymore and I can feel it and I can tell the difference and the kids don't like me and young people don't like me and young girls don't like me and now you're going to pay.

And that's, it's the same vibe across the board where it's like look, everybody normally does this slowly and at their own pace and whatever, some fucking fucked up thing happens in their life, you'll get your therapy when you, you know, have that like horrible fight get your therapy when you have that horrible fight with your parents, or you have that divorce or whatever. But these are entertainers who live as Peter Pan lives for so long that they never have to do it.

So now they finally, it's just the reckoning of time where it's just like, that's, this is where we're at. Like, you can't deny it anymore, you can't cool your way out of it, you can't scream your way out of it, you can't write your way out of it. And so, and suddenly, you don't realize that you're one of the proud boys,

you don't realize you're at fucking January 6th. You're just fucking there because you wanted to be where the people were who were making you feel like you used to feel. Yeah. Yeah. And then he, a musk, is such a perfect encapsulation of all that kind of like forced into one person. Yeah, because it's like he wants to, forced into one person. Yeah, because it's like he wants to, he knows the trick is that, you know, I have the right to say what I want.

You can't, you can't step on my rights. It's all that while he's, that's all he does a step on. And he's got, he's at times the richest man in the fucking world. Yeah, I mean, we could, this, this episode could be eight hours long for all the shit he's done. Well, it in the fucking world. Yeah, I mean, we could, this episode could be eight hours long for all the shit he's done.

Well, it is. I put you in. You told Karen, right? What happened time is that I've told you my own podcast at five o'clock. Oh, you're fucking bad news. Really? Yeah.

What time is it? Six. Are you fucking joking? Yeah. Who we shit? Uh, uh. I was like, it's 430. I gotta get out of here.

So, uh. I'm so nervous. Research is done by Charlotte George. No! I was like it's 430 I got to get out of here Research is run by Charlotte George Oh, no, no, that's great and reading Crowley Elon Musk Commission to save the world. Business Insider, the Guardian, Esquire Magazine, Vanity Care, Washington Post, Fortune Magazine, CNN, Mercury News, reveal news, Young Turks, Wired LA Times, the Hill, ABC Australia, Adalo, Roiter's, MSN, political, a Mama Mia, the Canadian Chiropractic Association,

Matthew Sweet. Stupid text again? No. The Canadian Chiropractic Association Matthew Sweet Stupid text again? No News interactive I think that's it I said S. Quarer Electric dot Well and Dave

AP News Washington Post And Dave, why don't we thank people as well who have come with us on a journey of 600 episodes of the total fucking. I mean guys. And thank you for joining us for this truly. I'm so... did I really just end it like that? I'm so sorry. It's great! Congratulations! 600 episodes is really huge. You've been podcasting for quite some time. Ten years. We're doing our anniversary.

Ten year anniversary, like in April. Next, so we'll probably do something about the girl. Oh my God, where are you guys gonna go? We're gonna go to the ocean and I'm gonna surf. I'm gonna surf. Baby doll is gonna surf. Anywhere where there's water, he said.

I'm like, really? Why should we stand on here? He's like, oh, the sea life. And then I'm like, he's just out there surfing with the boys again. Not even paying attention to me. Good Lord Well, I hope you're happy the ceviche is cold. The ceviche is always cold. Don't change the subject But thank you truly. We thank everybody and thank you. Thank you Karen. Thanks. Thank you Aaron. Thank you Elon Thank you Elon Karen. Thanks. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you, Elon.

Thank you, Elon. You are a hero. Gareth, we are returning. This is two weeks, a week and a half after we recorded. Yeah, it's probably about a week and a half. No, I think it's more like two and a half weeks. So I had mentioned a book that was coming out and the book came out and the book is not as good as I had been told because apparently the guy is kind of a stenographer

for Elon so it's a lot of fluffery, bullshitty stuff in there. We did however have a couple of really great things that came through. Where in a part 2.5? Right in part 2, part 2.5. Yes, the first one being he has a third child with Grimes. We have to bring it up because it goes all the way back to the technocracy with is it not it's not like another XB14215 It's almost worse the child's name is techno Mechanicus

Mechanicus at this point you can no longer just be like well He kind of has a little bit of a thing for his grandfather. This is now weird. No, he's now. This is full on grandfather shit now. The, all the naming shit, that it's completely fucking bizarre. Well, yeah, it's not even being like subtle. It's not even remotely subtle. There's nothing. He's naming the quiet part out child.

Pfft! Pfft! Pfft! So more information about his grandfather, Joshua Holderman. More confirmed, like sort of the way it seemed. Like he went to South Africa at this time, and that was very odd, and we don't have any proof, but obviously that leans one way, right? So from this article in The Atlantic, An examination of Joshua Alderman's writings

reveals a radical conspiracy theorist who expressed racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-democratic views repeatedly over the course of decades. A record I studied across hundreds of documents from the time, including newspaper clips, self-published manuscripts, university archives, and private correspondence.

Haldeman believed apartheid South Africa was destined to lead, quote, white Christian civilization in its fight against the international conspiracy of Jewish bankers and the hordes of colored people they controlled. Oh my God. So that's Gramps. That's why Gramps went to South Africa. Just straight up full on 100%. Checking every box of supremacy possible. Yes, all the boxes. He's in a box

of white supremacy. He is. Yeah. It's, quote, instead of, no, stop. I'm trying to handle this. I know we're just doing a little baby add-on, but this is like a lot. Instead of the government's attitude keeping me out of South Africa, it had precisely the opposite effect. It encouraged me to come and settle here. He told a reporter for the South African newspaper, Dye Transfaler, shortly after his arrival. The far-right African newspaper treated Holderman's arrival as a PR victory for apartheid. Oh my God. The headline was, praise's action of nationalist party regime,

Canadian politician settles in South Africa. So, for anyone who's like, because we've been seeing like, these people kind of coming out of the woodwork on Twitter and stuff, and who are going like, what are you talking about? Like, this is as transparent as it can possibly, it's trans-grandparent. It's trans-very trans-grandparent. And this is what you're raised in. I mean, yeah, this is pretty bad if you're raised in this,

especially. Dude, if a part, if an apartheid state is like, big win, getting this racist. Ah! Ah! Ah! It's like, ah, you know what I mean? Hey, we got one of the best racist. You know what I mean? We got one of the best racist.

Yeah, if like the Nazis are trading for your free agency, not great. If you couple that with the thousand other things you mentioned. The thousand other thing, you know, the stuff on Twitter that Elon now says is incredibly white supremacists. Don't give you one example, which is, he always talks about the birth rate going down that we need to have new babies. Now that's always been a very, your alarm bell should be ringing because that's a very African or sort of talk. We need to make more white babies is what he's talking about.

And if people say no, no, that's not true, I would like to now tell you to go to Elon Musk, Twitter feed, and I'll read his thing saying there are millions of immigrants pointing across a Southern border. You wouldn't be worried about birth rates if there were immigrants coming in because that actually counter that that counters that issue of not having a children that you're bringing up. So it's the brown ones that you're actually concerned about. That's what you're saying. It's the brown ones. That's all you're bringing up. So it's the brown ones that you're actually concerned about. That's what you're saying. It's the brown ones. That's all you're saying. It's like you just went up to the chalkboard with chalk. Yeah, you're just giving yourself away.

That it's just pure 100% racism. There's that. Now, I didn't talk about neural link because we had too much to cover. And also, like, it's a little bit complicated to dive into, but the basic thing about neural link that I, in my in my research was it's kind of bullshitty. He is essentially when he came out with it a lot of scientists were like, again, that's 20-year-old technology and we've been people have been working on that forever and the stuff that he's saying is not groundbreaking

at all and there's actually other companies that are further advanced with this kind of brain sort of implant-y stuff. One of the guys who's further advanced is a guy who used to work for Elon at Neuralink and he moved on and is in another company that he's leading that's way ahead of Neuralink. So he's not advanced in this shit at all. He's doing what a lot of other people are doing. What is Neuralink? I know it's a brain shit, but it's going to be something.

Okay. So here's what it is. It's something you put in your brain that then that then Elon has lied about and said it's going to do all this shit that it's absolutely not going to do. Like it's just a fabrication factory at that point. But Neuralink is something that they're talking about putting in your brain and maybe can help and do certain things. And it's just anything.

It's a bit matrix. It's a bit do certain things. And it's just anything associated with your brain. It's a bit matrix. It's a bit matrix. So, but it's such bullshit. Well, he's testing it out on monkeys. Well, no Dave, not just any monkeys. Okay. So, people were like, what are you doing testing it on monkeys?

And he said they're terminal. He also said no monkey has died as a result of a neural link implant. A neural link has now just this week announced that it's going to be doing human trials. But don't worry, they're terminal. So, a wired magazine broke the story of the horrible things that are happening to the monkeys. Of course, it's live animals that are being used. Also monkeys are very fucking smart, so this is torturous beyond words. Like no one should ever be using monkeys

for fucking anything, I'm sorry, they're too smart. Wired notes in a December 2019 experiment outlined in one of the documents saying one monkey had to be euthanized after a piece of Nurelinks brain implant broke off during the surgical process leading to infection. Oh my god. Another, I don't know how to say this, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca, maca,aca, maca, maca, maca,aca, maca, maca, maca, m the floor for no apparent reason. Days after receiving the implant and her condition only went downhill. Lost coordination, she would shake uncontrollably when she saw lab workers and after months they decided to euthanize her. She had bleeding in her brain, the neural ink implants left parts of her

cerebral cortex, quote, vocally tattered. So anyway, that's him saying monkeys and not died. Here's two that definitely have. And that's just two. You know, and's him saying monkeys and not died. Here's two that definitely have. And that's just two. You know, and he says they chose terminal monkeys. So if you're understanding what that means, that means if your grandmother goes into hospice, then he's fine with torturing them. I mean, essentially, that's what we're talking about.

When an animal is terminal, that's actually when you don't fuck with it the most. It doesn't mean they're disposable. It's a fucking monkey anyhow. That's my speech. It's like the caveat of the creepy. Yes. It's like the island of Dr. Moran. Ah!

Ah! Just because something's not as well off, doesn't mean you get to fucking stick shit in its brain. They shouldn't be doing this. I'm sorry. None of this is fucking needed. Anyway, an anonymous former employee is like, that's not true. Quote, shown a copy of Must remarks on X about Neuralinx animal subjects being close to death already. A former Neuralin employee alleges to wired the claim is ridiculous. If not a straight fabrication, we have these monkeys for a year or so before any surgery

is performed. The ex-employee who requested anonymity for fear of retaliation says up to a year's worth of behavioral training was necessary for the program, a time frame that would exempt subjects already close to death's door. So he's just fucking lying about it. It's just lies. He's just lying. But we already know his lie.

Yeah, he's a liar. So the last thing is Twitter, which I haven't blocked. I hadn't looked at his Twitter stuff in a while, but it's really, it's very Tucker Carlson. It's just straight up, this man doesn't live in reality. And he more, he's just taking stuff off of a Fox News level garbage pipe and just throwing it up. He just writes interesting under the craziest bullshit. Yeah, he's just talking to the craziest right wingers and being, oh, yeah, that's interesting.

And they're saying absolute fucking nonsense. So I didn't go out of the trans stuff. And the reason I didn't go out of the trans stuff is the reason I didn't go to the trans stuff is because He has a daughter and that's where this is coming from and I don't think it's right to That gets an actual person that's an actual human being and I just don't want to you know sort of get into that That shit that he has said stuff, but now he blames a school in Los Angeles for brainwashing her into being a communist and hating all rich people and apparently this is why he bought Twitter. He bought Twitter as a

reaction to this. Now the school is Crossroads. I'm friends with a teacher at Crossroads. He said that Twitter, sorry, that Crossroads taught his daughter to hate rich people and then all rich people or evil and stuff. And if you don't know what that means, that means that a school in which the richest people in Los Angeles, the Spielbergs, people of that note send their children to hate rich people. Just take a moment to think about how fucking stupid that is.

It's like saying Harvard is teaching kids at Harvard to hate rich people. It's so fucking dumb, it makes my brain hurt. It didn't, no one taught, you know who taught? Your daughter to hate rich people, you motherfucker. Well, no, it's not even that. She just hates you. Your daughter, your child just hates you because you suck.

You're the worst. Because you acts absolutely fucking suck. Because you're just the worst. So he's blaming his daughter for becoming a full communist and thinking rich people are evil. That's why he apparently bought Twitter. So she doesn't want to spend time with them. She's done with him. She's written him off.

Yes. I think having a couple of weeks in between to reflect and be on Twitter and watch him also has just made me be like, the guy is a major issue. He is also talking about how he's gonna start charging for Twitter, for everybody. And if that happens, I think you and I agree that would probably just end it in the way

that it sort of has been, even as we've been sort of drowning in the bullshit of X and all the dumb stuff he's been doing, we're not gonna pay him. I'm not gonna pay him. I saw Peter Kalmas, the climate guy, tweet out how he was gaining, you know, 20,000 followers a month, and now he has gotten 36,000 over like,

since he went bought Twitter. Like, it's very clear what he's doing. If you don't buy the blue check, he's trying to make you buy the blue check by making it so that you just are hidden or you don't get followers or he keeps bought purging or whatever it is. It's very clear what he's doing.

I know it's also not how bots work and he knows how bots work. Bots work, they're not gonna change if you charge because a lot of those are just off of stolen credit cards and it's just a revolving stolen credit card operation. Yeah, that's not how you stop bots. Bots aren't going to be stopped by this. It's it's so it's blaming every blaming everything on bots. He's doing all this to stop bots. All this to stop bots.

There weren't as many bots on the site as there are now like when he before how stop racing. Yes, but use your money to stop that's why he bought Twitter because he said conservative voices were being suppressed. Yes. And then he immediately started suppressing leftists, which is why every time someone argues that he is a free speech champion. That's actually a different episode. Like we could do a full hour on how he suppresses full speech. Not just on Twitter going after people have written about Tesla.

Another thing is he is a tax free speech. He thinks like any other rich guy. They say free speech and they're doing something else. Like that's what it always is. Yeah So that's kind of the update. That's kind of all. I mean I just want to tag this stuff on. I think I think I Think since in the week and half we've learned a lot more about why he bought Twitter

It's clearly because he's a right wing reactionary now and he's mad that his daughter is expressing herself for who she is and he can't fucking take it. He sees that as some kind of failure when it's not, and he's got to blame anybody but himself. It certainly can't be him. It has to be the school she went to, the Ridgegit school that she went to. Yeah, it's just, it's absolutely bullshit. And he is destroying Twitter and and blue sky exploded when he said that like now blue sky I go over there and I'm like oh this feels

like this feels like Twitter now like it's actually like it's actually moving and there's people on there and it's legit like it's he's done. Blue sky is just going to copy everything Twitter was. It's going to become better than Twitter because it won't have all the dumb assholes that exist on it. Like, Twitter is now just like, it's like going into a room and having just a bunch of people. You don't like screaming at the time. It's just not pleasant. Let me see if I screen shot at the way this person put it.

Well, why are you looking that up? I will read Tesla, Tesla Namix tweeted out, trust me when I say this, you don't want to be Elon Musk. The way he has on his shoulders is unlike anyone has ever felt. When the future of humanity relies on you and your companies, the opportunity, cost, and stakes are extremely high. And Elon replied, I often do not wish to be me.

He's not, yeah, guys, he's not saving much like in planet. There's nothing happening. Yeah, I can't find it, but this person had such a good, just a rant, you know, you just scroll through and there's this random person who is just like, because of, we have to now scroll through the racist idiocy or whatever of blue checks to get to actual parts that you would find maybe interesting. It's completely upended it, and it is minor.

I think in the experience of Twitter, the blue check part is like, just, it's a dumb step towards the major problem, but it's 80, it's death by a thousand cuts what he's done on Twitter. It's like it's just he's ruined it in every way possible. He's the worst. Remarkable, a remarkable piece of shit. In a world of pieces of shit, Musk is such a remarkable piece of shit. Yeah, that's a good way to summarize it. Really?

That's a good way to summarize it. All right, we did it. There you go. All right, enjoy it.