The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 619 - Anita Bryant - Part One

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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Just rad, full on. Rad J town. Yeah. Just stupid Anita. Jane Bryant was born in her grandparents' farmhouse in Barnsdale, Oklahoma to 18 year old Lenora and 19 year old Warren. Nice. OK. They could have been called the war and not

Kind of their couple name. Should we should we start over? Yeah, we should do one more take just to have it a Safety so when when the needy came out the doctor said well, she's dead. Oh Is that into the podcast? That's a horrible, is it a boy or is it a girl? It's irrelevant. This is the shortest dollop. This is not here.

So the grandpa said, quote, if you don't bring my daughter and that baby around, I'll kill you. Wait, what? The grandpa's there. What do you mean? It's in the grandpa's house. The grandpa looks at the doctor and says, if you don't get this baby alive, I'm going to kill you. Oh, shit.

It's called grandpa. Grandpa, yin. Sure. Yeah. So the doctor dips the baby's head in ice water and she starts breathing. Jesus Christ. What? What?

Was it Wim Hof? Um, what a, I feel like it's amazing for a doctor to be like, all right, now I'll try. I guess. If you're going to kill me. Well, okay. Not, well, now that my life's on the line, let's see. Um, so Anita's grandparents then gave her coffee and whiskey until she vomited out a big black mess soupy

What what? You know, I think I could be a I always set the bar so high. Hey, man. If you want to hear my Our birth story. It's on my album shame chamber that you can buy What I tell the story of Finn's birth, you should know that. I don't remember, I've listened to shit. I have listened to shit, I don't remember your story. I don't remember anybody's bits either,

I don't remember your bits either. It goes in one ear and out the other, unless you're Norm MacDonald. So, now this is all what Anita said about her birth, so we only have Anita to take for it. But her... Oh, wait. I do remember your...

Okay. I do vaguely remember yours. So... Go ahead. I'm ready. Anita's parents divorce when she's two, and then they remarry when she's three. Her... What, a year, though?

Yeah, great year. So her grandfather immediately starts pushing her to be a singer. And when she's two, he has her singing, Jesus loves me. Which she sang at church when she was two. And so then she's in love with the stage. And as a child, she's in a high school play as the only kid in the play. And she told her parents, quote, I'm going to be a star someday. She was the only kid in the high school play or she in high school was in a play. She's a child in high school. Oh, child child. OK.

Did I ever tell you that I my first play was Fiddler on the Roof? And that I my friend Caleb and I, we had, we had one line each and his was, my name is Jacob and I said, I am Shalomie. Why would you tell me that you were ever called Shalomie in anything? Think about what you've given me, Shalomie. Dave, it's over for me. Anyway, at this point, it doesn't matter. But I was a kid in an adult production. Shalom.

So. Her parents are really not religious, but her grandparents are. At eight, Anita commits herself to Jesus Christ. She is a Southern Baptist. Much like you. Much like you. She's a Southern Baptist for those people who don't know. Oh, I can doodle.

She. Yep. They're, yeah. Yeah. Christians are like, relax. They're just another great religious organization that hides child molesters. Yes. She keeps performing and getting roles.

They move, they move to, um, closer to Oklahoma city. So she can be a part of the local, um, entertainment scene there. She's on TV shows. And then she gets her own 15 minute show on Friday nights on the local station. Yeah. What? How old is she? This is you're talking about kid Gareth's dream.

There's a big that would be like, I'll do it. I would have been, I would have joined a religion to be like, have a 15 minute show. Well, that's what Scientology is. At 13, her parents divorced again. Now, this time it took. Now, Anita was singing at weddings and civic luncheons just anywhere she could. She, she makes her first record called Somebody Cares, and it does, it does well. But she said the record labels rejected her because they couldn't believe this big

deep voice was coming from a 13 year old girl. I don't know if I buy that sometimes you need to say stuff you might want to not really believe it. Sure. Her mom remarries. Yeah, like we have what we call principles in the entertainment business, dear. Watch it. Well, how could we possibly sell a amazing voice coming from a child? I'm afraid not.

It's a pass from Sony Music. So Momrie Marys and they moved to Tulsa. She starts appearing on TV in Tulsa. She has a small hit when she's 16 and she uses that money to buy a minx stole. A minx stole? She's 16. What is a stole? I know a minx. Oh, so it is one of those shawl, like it's like a shawl, a minx shawl basically. It's a pelt. Yeah, it's a pelt. It's a neck pelt. So, yeah, that's what you do when you're 16.

You get a mink. Absolutely. Next stop, Dalmatians. Now, she's invited to New York to be on a TV show, and her pastor questions if she can maintain her her testimony for Christ in a city like New York. Oh, will she succumb to the pressures of the big fucking and suckin will she get one piece of pizza and all of a sudden she's you know gonna be going into strip joints and having gin. of a sudden she's, you know, gonna be going into strip joints and having gin.

So she prayed and she cried on it. And after that, she knew God wanted her to go to New York and be on the program. Very similar to your story. Very, very. So her mom sets her up in a Greenwich Village Women's Hotel run by the Salvation Army. Hmm. And at 16, she goes on tour with Ricky Nelson. She signs a recording contract with MCA, so she's just blowing up. Jeez.

Yeah. She then goes and enters and wins Miss Tulsa. Ugh. And then. Everyone's great. And then she wins Miss Oklahoma. Okay. And then she's. That's legit.

She's the second runner up at the Miss America pageant, also known as third place. Wow. You know, you don't want to win Miss Oklahoma necessarily because everyone refers to you as Miss, okay. So then she's runner up in Miss America? No. Look, I need a minute. That's what I've got myself.

Runner up in Miss America. And look, this is when this is when beauty pageants are huge. They're literally everybody would watch them like they were massive. So and very strange in retrospect. What what what was done? The bikini is so it's so weird. Very weird.

Do you want to be our favorite woman? Yes, we'll pretend like you're smart and ask you questions, but walk around in the skimps. And the Italian. All right, now show us another thing you can do. Chop, chop. And then back to the bathing suits. Good cleavage.

Can you spin a baton? So she wins a college scholarship and goes to Northwestern in Chicago. And there in Chicago, she gets another regular spot on a TV show, the Don MacNell Breakfast Club. That's a great show. Great breakfast. Yeah.

She thinks about joining a sorority, but she goes to a party. A little worried about the temptation over there. Thank you. To be quite honest with you. She goes to a party, quote, there was lots of beer drinking, girls sat on men's laps, and everybody's behavior,

I thought, it seemed too free. Yeah. Yeah, I think that sounds like a. Absolutely. I mean, imagine seeing a woman sitting on a men's lap. Yeah, I was surprised. I feel sick just thinking about it. Yeah. So instead she goes to church and she shames out the families from the show.

She's on, uh, the music musicians and stuff. She has a new song. This one charts at number 30. So she drops out of college. Hmm. She goes to a Miami convention and there she, Jesus. She's really, she's picking some towns to be a Pious pious child pious young lady. She meets disc jockey Bob Green

I Need a quote my spouse. No him. No, I need a quote. You need a quote. How about this? It's one small step for man one giant leap for mankind Should have called her Baker. Or Bryant, I mean. Yeah. I need a quote. He was known to be a swinger with the girls. You know, he was a real dreamboat.

He drove this neat white T-bird with his name on the side. He wore these silk suits. He came on real strong. He just sounds like a jish. It's one of those things where it's like, are you complimenting him? Because so far it sounds like a real pervert. Yeah, he sounds terrible. He was a swinger. He had a car with his name on him. He wouldn't take no for an answer. Oh my god, he was so cool. He had his name on the side of his car. This guy was as cool as it gets.

So he keys into Anita and he goes after her hard. She'd be like, leave me alone and he'd fly across the country and show up at her house. Now, this was a time where that was considered not crazy as much as just like, boy, he's really after her. Well, that's rapey. But now that's scary. That's scary. But she doesn't want to get married yet. And he just keeps after her.

She's like, I'm too young. She's 19. She's like, it's too much. But then, you know, it just keeps going on. And then she meets his parents. Like, he just pursues her. And then she gives in and then they're hanging out all the time The first time she goes to meet his parents

quote As the meal progressed I gradually relaxed then bob reached under the table and began to hold my hand I really didn't appreciate that one bit His parents had never met me before. What kind of girl would they think I was? I tried to pull my hand away. Bob held firm. And there was nothing I could do about it

without being obvious. At last, he released my hand. On the proper finger of my left hand, Bob had placed a ring with a large, beautiful, heart-shaped diamond. Everything is very stupid right now. It is like hand assault, first of all. Assault.

And then she is touched by the... I mean, she's touched, but she is... She likes the ring? Yeah. I mean, I do feel like he just wedding forced. Non-consensual, fianced. You know what I mean? It's not like, yes, yes, yes, exactly, exactly.

Yeah, she says yes. Like you can't do that, you can't, it's not like, it's not like tagging an animal. Well apparently it is. Like whoop, I got the ring on ya. So you're in my zoo now. I mean she says yes, but also like how are you gonna say no in front of the parents?

Take it a bit awkward. But so the parents know the parents like oh. They're there, they're at the table. Yeah, but I still, I thought it was all under the table. No, but then he put the ring on and everyone saw it when her hand came up. And everyone's like, whoa. Yeah. Look at that.

My boy's getting married. Man. Wow. And she's like, well, it would be rude to say no. So I guess this is my husband. So Bob isn't religious. And as the wedding gets closer, she's getting more and more freaked out that he wouldn't be saved. But then on the eve of the wedding, Bob accepted Jesus Christ.

He definitely was thinking about fucking. I think so. Yeah, she was like, I can't, he's like, all right, fine, yeah, I love the guy, come on. The radio station KAKC named their wedding day Anita Bryant Day, and then at noon, after they exchanged vows and were married, it was changed to Miss Bob Green Day.

She kept the name Anita Bryant, by the way. So what? Okay. So they moved to, they moved to Miami Beach. Bob becomes her manager. She's torn in the country. She's, uh, they, then she finds out she can't have kids. And so they adopt. And then she gets pregnant soon after that.

So they have two kids and then four years later, they have twins. Oh, Jesus. I got a buddy, he listens to this show. He was like, I'll do one and he had twins and he was like, no. I got a worse one. I know someone who had. He was like, I'll get I'll do one and he had twins and he was like, no. I got a worse one. I know someone who had one and then like, let's have one.

Three and had twins. Yeah, they got rid of one though. You can sell the second stop recording. This is on the air. We're still live. You can sell the second twin. Dave, what? Randy's sclar was sold off and they didn't get back together after high school. No, a lot of people don't know about the third school or Teddy Teddy sclar.

There's a third school. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so she becomes the spokeswoman for the Florida Citrus Commission. I knew I knew the name. So she's in ads, lots of ads. She's in ads for Kraft Foods and Holiday Inn and Coca-Cola and Tupperware. She's like an ad lady now. Like she's just, and she's well known for it at this point. Okay. like she's just and she's well known for it at this point. OK, they even had the family on TV for an ad. They go start going on TV shows with Billy Graham and Oral Roberts.

She and good. She and Lauren Grain get the coasting gig for the Orange Bowl parade on TV every year. Oh, good. She starts touring with the Billy Graham Crusade. So dreams come true. Oh, good. She starts touring with the Billy Graham Crusade. So dreams come true. Oh boy. In 1968, she was at both the GOP and the Democratic National Conventions singing Battle Him of the Republic.

Hmm. Okay. She, she's well known for Battle Him of Republic, like she sings it all the time everywhere. She goes to Bob Hope on USO Tours 1971, she sings at the Super Bowl halftime show. She's Lyndon Johnson's favorite singer, she sings at the White House a bunch of times, she sings at his funeral. All right, so very, very, she sings at Lyndon Johnson's funeral. Yeah.

Battlehame of the Republic. Well, but that also doesn't show fandom. You don't get to come up with that lineup. But I mean, it's OK. Rock and roll and really moving, very popular. I mean, I know the name. I just don't remember the specific. She's making 500,000 a year, which is a lot of money back then. Whoa, it's a lot of cheddar.

They get a gardener, a nurse, a housekeeper, a handyman, two accountants, three secretaries. Bob's parents are looking after the kids while they tour. They publish books. All together they publish nine books. Topics are like, have a good marriage through faith in Jesus, raising your kids through faith in Jesus. It's all that.

There's a cookbook with stories about their family and their faith in Jesus. It's all that. There's a cookbook with stories about their family and their faith in Jesus. There's a cookbook with stories from their family. A body likes me love. By the way, that is like truly, I love to cook. And man, I gotta tell you, I don't know what's going on with people who post recipes. They need to get their shit together

and realize we're just there for the recipe. The amount of times where the recipe comes with this emotional baggage up top, it is so bad they had to come up with a skip to recipe button that sometimes isn't even there. Because someone will just be like, raking leaves has always made me ponder what a good apple pie.

When you're like, where's, can we hurry? Please? The ingredients anywhere? It's crazy how many recipes are like that. It's so annoying. Yeah. It's just like a life story where it's like my wife used to love pasta, but then we decided we were more of a bean peep. You're like, please, please, please. Before I get to the recipe of Potatoes O'Brien, let me tell you about a friend of mine, Sheamus O'Brien.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the perfect mashed potato? Why that comes with a story about my dad's life. So the books sell over a million copies, mostly in religious bookstores. Sure. Anita says she is quote, not a newspaper reader. Hmm.

But she has opinions. In 1969, she was in the Miami Youth for Decency rally. The Miami Youth for De- it's just nerd patrol. So they were protesting a disgusting performance by Jim Morrison in the doors of Miami. Well, he took a slung out. Well, he never did though. If you read about it, it's all he didn't take a slung out, but they're still acting like he did. He was arrested for indecent exposure.

Anita is also an outspoken supporter of the Vietnam War as Jesus would want. Ugh, that's one thing I never get. Such a pacifist. Yeah. Like the way that that mess is like, it really is amazing. She joins Phyllis Slothly's attack on the Equal Rights Amendment. Our girl, our girl, our girl.

None of this seems to affect her public persona. Like there's no negative backlash. In 1974, her grandfather and two friends die, and Anita had a, quote, nervous collapse. But she wouldn't go get psychiatric help because, quote, I thought it would be denying Jesus. And I knew that a lot of psychiatrists tell you things totally contrary to biblical teaching, such as in order to get along with your husband, go out and have an affair or something like that. She totally gets what psychiatrists are.

You know what, so, Anida, I hear your story and I know you're going through... How great would that be? You're going through a grieving period and I was thinking yes strange Yes, no, I am you need to get This is what I was afraid of cock in you and I'm gonna say this from from a medical perspective all holes You promise you're a doctor that you die should? Yes, I have a degree. Cock is the way. Yep.

And I'm going to give you this book. Gosh. This book is called Cock is the Way. Here you go. Read that. Oh gosh. Good lord. Of course it's a hard cover.

Oh wait. Now I know what you're doing. You're the guy. Yeah, I knew it. You're the guy. Yeah, I knew it. You're the one, two. This is terrible. This is basically how I got married. So she becomes addicted to Valium.

And that's quite a little okay. Well, she's dealing with the nervous. You know, when you have a nervous... Oh yeah, right. They used to prescribe it. They're like, it's super's doing with the nervous, you know, when you have a nervous. Oh, yeah, right. They used to prescribe it just for life. Super easy to become addicted to it. Was it was basically just like you're a housewife. Yeah, basically.

Board, here you go. Husband, the words, here you go. So she does kick it, though. But then she comes dependent on sleeping pills and she's drinking wine with the sleeping pills. She starts thinking about suicide, which could have saved a lot of people, a lot of problems. But instead, she goes to a Christian counseling center in California for a very short time.

So it's in, in, in, uh, what the word I'm thinking of. You go in, right? You live there for a little while. Oh, neither one of us could think of it. People in a patient people are screaming. Stop screaming at the radio. You're in your car. Dave, I think you think this is a radio show. This is a radio show.

We're on K.A. F.C. in South Dakota. K. on KA, FC, and South Dakota. Okay, Dave, I just don't think so. So, you're listening to the smooth history of the DALAP podcast, DALAP radio. Coming at you with all the stories from history, making people think, relearn, relisten. Coming up we got a beautiful podcast. We're going to hear a little bit about some funny baseball antics. That'll be at the top of the hour. About eight minutes, we're going to cover the weather and get you down to Dallop Disco.

But before we do any of that, let's get you going here with a little bit of Anita Baker. That's pretty good. So they keep this quiet that she's in this inpatient Christian counseling center because they want to maintain her Christian public image, right? So after she gets out, she goes back to show business working again. By 1976, her income is over 700,000 a year. is over 700,000 a year. She has two stage shows. One is more pop and she'd sing her orange juice commercial song at every show.

What a crazy thing to hear, okay. I hope she does the orange juice ad. That one's so good. The other show was very religious, witnessing to the Lord. There's organ music. I didn't come to this orange juice concert for all that Christianity. Oh, oranges come from trees in Christ. And Christ in Christ in Christ.

Oh man, nice try. Come on. So she's now pretty famous. America knows her from the orange juice commercials. Nice try. Come on. So she's now pretty famous. America knows her from the orange juice commercials. I think she's in like 200 oranges commercials. Like it's something crazy. She would end up putting out 50 albums and had three gold singles. So she's.

This next one's called says Sumer. By 1976, she's been a star for a number of years and specifically religious right star, but she's also pretty known with people who aren't religious. It's amazing that she's... Okay, because I was going to say it's amazing. Like, there's probably people who are just like, I'm not going to drink fucking orange juice. I'm going to screw this. She and Bob and the kids live in a Spanish style mansion

on Biscayne Bay in Miami. It's right on the water. They have a big heart shaped jacuzzi. They have a waterfall and of course on the Neeta Bryant bust. Okay. When they're not on tour, they... Heart-shaped hot tub. I think I need one of those.

Just for me. Just a sad little man drinking. I should just always make it look like I just lost on the bachelor. When they're not on tour, they would call the kids together at night, every night for time that was devoted to God. Like we do in the hotel on the ground. Anita had a kneeling cushion with words and needle point that Billy Graham had spoken when he came to dinner at their house.

I'm ripping off everyone. This is good broccolini. Yeah. Her booking agent asked Anita to support his wife, Ruth, who is running for the Dade County Board of Commissioners. So Anita does and she donates. She does radio spots for Ruth. But she never asked what Ruth stood for.

Is that important? This shows that she's a deep thinker. Ruth? I know I've done that. I've thrown my support behind a lot of people and then I'm like, what do you think? Oh my God, Federman. What are your policies? Ruth, Ruth Wins.

A couple months later, on December 7th, Ruth introduces an amendment to protect gay people from discrimination. Oh my, I'm sorry Dave, I'm gonna need a minute to barf. Yucky. And she's like, no. that's not what we do. They a big barred from employment or kicked out of their apartment, things like that, right, kicked out of their labor union. So Anita's pastor finds out and tells the flock it would give, quote, special privileges

to homosexuals. Dignity and security. What, are we want them feeling okay that they that their world can be crushed in a moment? Good lord, yeah. So the commission agrees to have a hearing and a vote the next month. Now, this isn't like a crazy idea. It's really more of a deafing. Okay, what this isn't like a crazy idea. It's really more of a death thing. Okay, what? This isn't a crazy idea.

Laws like this have been passed in 36 cities already. Right. But now Anita feels responsible to all these church members who voted for Ruth because Anita endorsed her. So she betrayed her. She goes to Ruth and she asks, quote, but what about my civil rights? Flunting homosexual teaching in private and religious schools violates my religious beliefs. I believe I have a constitutional right to protect my children from knowledge and practice God calls an abomination. What if one of your daughters influenced by a schoolteacher were to become a lesbian? Okay. And yeah, Ruth was like, no, I totally understand.

Like that would be like, I'd be like, oh, I understand. You're gay. Sure. Okay. It is also amazing to completely ignore the civil part of rights. Very easily. It's really astonishing how much they can make themselves victims when they're the oppressor. I'll constantly... Never stops. So Ruth's answer makes Anita quote overwhelmed by sadness and dismay. She doesn't know what to do. Can you imagine feeling so down and alone and abandoned by the system? Gosh. Imagine if only she could put herself in a position where she would understand how that feels and how much you want that resolve so that you could just be

who you want to be. I understand what you're saying. Be who you are. So going public would cause a backlash, but she also doesn't want... She's so hooked on that orange just funny. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. She's like, I can't lose the orange, you cash. She's like, yeah, damn it. But she also doesn't want her kids to know that gay people exist.

So a few days later. Anita is almost in a really bad car accident, but is spared. And at that point, she knew God had saved her because he wanted her to speak out against gay rights. Jesus Christ, how much more clear do I have to make this? Start saying you hate gays. Do you think I made that truck almost hit you for no reason? Oh my God, I'm alive, yeah. I'm alive, I'm alive. Gaze of bad

Life is so important and valuable. Let's make these people feel like they're not part of society So Anita writes a letter to each commissioner saying the law would law would infringe on her rights as a citizen and mother Wow, and then Anita declared war on evil. And we're also brought to you in part by Airbnb. Dave, I love staying at Airbnb's. I've told you this before, my buddies and I get together twice a year and we always find some amazing spots via Airbnb. So the other thing is maybe you've stayed in Airbnb before

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Oh my God. They will use money, drugs, alcohol, any means to get what they want. This is a battle of the atheists and the ungodly on one side and God's people of the other. Imagine reading that letter. You're a commissioner. You're like, what? Oh, wait, what's what?

What are we doing? They're trying to freshen their ranks. You know how the gays are. So crazy. Children, before we get to social studies, my fresh meat, let's never mind. She hits the radio. Publicly, she.

I know if she came on, I do the same. Publicly, she introduced herself as a mother and Sunday school teacher, not a famous singer. People called and wrote the commission. They're against the amendment two to one. So she's whipping people up. Fear sweeps through churches all over South Florida. And so for the hearing on January 18th, chartered. Can you imagine how much time could have been saved

if Jesus was gay? Oh! He hung out with 12 dudes like he was clearly gay. So for the hearing on January 18th all these churches charter buses and there's just tons of church people coming. Now gay sex is illegal in the state and that's not gonna change. It's not something that's up for anything here. This act just bars discrimination. Okay.

It's amazing to try to... Yeah. Okay. So, the hearing is just filled with religious types holding signs like, God says no, who are you to say different? That's just... You could poke holes in this argument like nine different ways. It's so crazy.

Well, it's also just like, wait, didn't he create everything? All right. But they don't believe that the gay people were created. They think that they're... It's a choice. Oh, well. But then... Okay. They think that they're there. It's a choice. Oh, well. But then, OK.

Because who wouldn't choose to have a bunch of people hate you and. Yeah, right. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, again, it's like, yeah, it's like you could you could keep going. They'll be like, because I want to have illegal sex. Because you hate me. So. Because you hate me? Uh, so they also had signs like, don't legalize morality, protect our children. They're very loud.

They boo the first pro-ordinate speaker. A gay activist named Bob Koonst said, they just want to be treated like human beings. Quote, we are your. That's the problem. Quote, we are your children and then the religious crowd booze and the mayor threatens to shut the hearing down if there's any more booing. So.

They don't think gay people need protection for worker housing or anything. I think we can all agree that that is the case. They think they need protection from the people. Yes, which is right. That is the way it should be. The Reverend Todd Allen said, quote, we cannot endorse them. What are you talking? We're not going to endorse the gays.

Oh my god. Oh god. Of the nine anti-amendment people who spoke, everyone read passages from the Bible to show how immoral gay people were. And it's like, yeah, no, we get it. You have your little fake book, your little story time. Okay, now I'm gonna read from the Hobbit about why gays are cool.

Like, what are you talking about? I'm gonna read from a cookbook. Yeah, you read from your little fake book. Okay. All right. So Anita speaks, she's also holding a Bible. She was quote, choked with emotion, according to a Miami columnist. She explained how she was okay.

If only a little more emotion, maybe she'd have passed away. She explained how she was okay with gay people, but not okay with gay people. Quote, as an entertainer, I have worked with homosexuals all my life, and my attitude has been, live and let live. Now I believe it is time to realize the rights of the overwhelming number of Dade County constituents. And she said Christians were the actual victims in all this. And this is a violation of their rights. Now her speech is because she's needed.

Brian, this speech is on the news, the local news that night. Do orange juice. Orange you glad you read the Bible. So the term homosexual is not one we use anymore, but people who hate gay people use it. It's still right. Yes. And you know, it's has a I think at this time, you can see the people who are using it are right. These people. So yeah, yeah, no, it feels like a it's our take term now. And because it kind of makes it seem like this. It's like

a separate species. You know, it's just kind of like this. Yeah, it's not a separate species. You know what I mean? It's just kind of like this. Yeah, it's not a kind or human sounding word, right? It's like, it's othering. It sounds othering. Yeah, right. So a lawyer representing the archdiocese of Miami

said the amendment would be like allowing a fox in the chicken coop. An ex major league baseball player and manager held up a Bible and said, homosexuality was an abomination of the Lord. Coral Gable's city commissioner, Robert Break, said, quote, homosexuals are becoming too militant. They are saying, we want you to like us. Imagine having that thought in your head and then letting it go. He wants you to like us. I mean imagine like.

Imagine saying that. Imagine having that thought in your head and then letting it go. We want you to like the fucking dirty, disgusting. Oh my God. How dare they want us to like him? Wow. They've declared war on friendship.

What? That is remarkable. We want dignity and respect just like everyone else. I don't think you're gonna get that read the Bible He then said they are perfectly free to go into their closets Do you know what free means they essentially I don't know if you remember this in the philis slothly episode But she at one point said they we don't want to have to see it or talk about it. So that's what this is. They want a world, they're like, okay, you can be gay,

but never say it out loud. Do not act like it's happening. But then gay sex is illegal. Gay sex, yeah, I mean, there's that. But also like... Be yourself and hide it and don't let us know and you can't have sex. But also like so it's better if you, so you're worried about your kids so you'd rather have a covert gay person as opposed to like it, none of it.

And by the way, that's why we're putting so many gay teachers in your schools to freshen the ranks and you're not cool with that. I don't know what is going on in the litter box right now, but it could only be described as a war. Is Luke in there or is it? I'm hoping there's someone else in there, because if it's just Jose, I'd be genuinely terrified of what's about, what's going to come.

I feel like five cats are going to come out. So the vote, the vote is held. Okay. Big moment comes when commissioner William Oliver, who is a 42 year old carpenter union leader and a born again Christian. Carpenter, I mean, giveaway. And he said, quote, if God meant for all men to be equal, he would have made us all white.

He ref... No, that's a good thing. He's saying... You understand what he's saying, right? Yeah. So he's saying God didn't just make white people, he made all people. Right, yes. But that's also kind of like the argument we're saying before, where it's like, wouldn't

explain to me why do gay people exist in God's world? No, but that's what he's saying. Yeah, right. No, he's saying that God people exist because God wants them to exist. Yeah, right. Right. So he refuses to condone discrimination against any human being and noted these with exact same arguments people used against black integration. They must just be sitting there just like, wait, you're a born again.

Sure. Wait, what's going on right now? He said, quote, I vote yes. So they have five votes and they win. And the religious that the. Okay. Right. They release crowds are chanting recall, recall and.

And but discrimination is now illegal in Miami. For for sexual orientation outside Robertink said he would be launching a campaign to get this on the ballot. And he asked Anita to lead the campaign to repeal the law. So Anita holds a big meeting at her mansion. There's Baptist, Catholic, Orthodox, Jewish leaders. And they need 10,000 signatures to get it on the ballot. And so they form an organization. And the Lord told Bob Green to name it Save Our Children. Anita's made president.

So... How's the orange juice company doing right now? They're like, Anita, you are on some pretty thin ice right now to be quite frank with you. You might be surprised. So this is the first time anyone has mounted a huge campaign against gay discrimination laws. Right. A couple weeks later, Anita holds a press conference. And she's standing in front of signs that said, save our children from homosexuals.

God damn. This is about people not getting fired and kicked out of their houses. people not getting fired and kicked out of their houses. Right. Yes. But the reason... Yeah, right. It is a bit of a leap, I suppose, sure. The reason they're focusing on children was that polling showed women in the area supported the amendment 2 to 1. So they wanted to convince those women that gay people were a danger to their children. They wanted to convince those women that gay people were a danger to their children. It really is amazing when you think about the, I mean, very blatantly inventing your cause.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they've totally just... You know, it's not that there's... They know they need to manipulate facts and people in order to use fear as a cudgel. So they focus on the kids to convince the women. Anita, quote, some of the stories I could tell you of child recruitment and child abuse by homosexuals would turn your stomach Can we

Can you do one that actually happened no return your stomach, so I don't want to well Let's hear it. I mean just literally one cuz some people I know are saying that there's none I might talk about one of these might get sued Return and then I'd get blamed. I'm okay with it. Yeah, a lot of us didn't eat, so we're ready to hear it just so we have a specific. My lawyer said don't say it out loud

because I can get sued. Well, that's a crazy thing for a lawyer to say. Just one story, it'd probably go up really long way. Are you trying to recruit? Just one story, probably go a really long way. Are you trying to recruit? No, no, no, we're all totally heterosexual. We just believe that everyone deserves dignity. Which again is really what this bill is.

So can we hear one of those stories? Yeah, just literally like even a quick one. Hey, your pause is crazy long! Recruitment. Child recruitment is an amazing word in this too. Thanks for stopping by the booth. Let me walk you through some of the benefits of this alternative lifestyle. I mean, she just keeps making the point that they're trying to recruit high school kids to be gay.

She continues. Like it's the military. By the way, how about throw a little fucking weight in that direction if you're so worried about high school recruitment. Yeah. Now Anita had a TV show in the works, but now it is canceled because of her anti-gay stance,

which gives her more victim crit. Right, so. Right, she's under attack. Anita now says, speaking out, has killed a dream. She has had since she was a child, but it would not stop her. We have got to be, we're so dumb.

It's just like, it's the fact that, cause all this is so reminiscent. And I mean, we just are really asking for it constantly. So take some one month to get 60,000 signatures. They only needed 10. Good Lord. So now the board votes to allow a public vote in June. So now the campaign officially begins.

It's not. Okay. Oh boy, I bet this is really like sensitive. Senator Jesse Helms sends staff and funding. Jerry Falwell made visits to help. Bob Vowde, a needed would fight these same laws in cities all over the country saying gay activists waged a, quote, disguised attack on God. Anita goes on the 700 Club and the PTO Club where she gets $25,000 in donations.

Ronald Reagan comes and speaks at her 37th birthday event. Now Bob Coons becomes the face of gay rights movement in Miami. And he's seen as a radical in with gay rights activists. He thinks gays should live on a bash lives, just out and be who you are. But other gay leaders push for a restricted approach and not to make it about being gay, but to make the campaign about human rights. Interesting. Yeah, probably. And then, but Coons thinks that's idiotic because then it concedes all of these arguments

to the bigots. Like now they just get to say all horrible things about gay people and you're not actually counting it. You're talking about human rights. Well, we don't talk enough either about how, you know, bigots are people too. I think that's, yeah. And so we need to give them a dig, the dignity that we are offering to others. This podcast is about. Bigot Lives Matter. Thank you. So meanwhile, Anita's entire game is to just shame gay people. She goes on the Today Show,

she goes on the Tomorrow Show, everything in between, and says things like, quote, if homosexuals are allowed to change the law in their favor, why not prostitutes, thieves, or murderers? Thank you for coming on the today show. You make really- It is 7.45 AM. She helps save our children, raise $200,000. And they say if the ordinance stands, quote, Miami will become a haven for homosexuals. Which that kind of does happen.

Yeah. Well, it's a, I mean, it's, yeah, but it's, it's a great town. Yeah. She argues that if gay people were a minority, then so were nail biters, dieters, fat people, short people and murderers. What an amazing. The list. What an amazing just an incredible list you like fat people now to yeah, what? What about sure nail what gay gay people like short people is that what you want? Yeah, I mean honestly nail biters though. What? She just hates nails because of the crucifix People send her hate mail. One had a photo of two men having sex, which she called, quote,

the most hideous thing I have ever seen. Just filth. A man. So good. I just want to be there when she opens up. So great. The mail is. Well, because you got to throw a kind of like you got to like you got to kind of throw her for a loop and be like,

my brother and I are Christians going door to door. Enclosed is a picture of us and she's, oh Christ, no. Sucker. Bob would help explain things to her about sex and what people did because she's just so sheltered. She's so, she has no clue what she's so terrified of. Yeah, right. She credits Bob for teaching her a lot about sex.

Quote, he was born... Oh, it's so good. It's called felching. What is it? Well, when a man finishes in the air, oh my God. Bob, how do you know all this? Quote, he was born in the Bronx, and I was raised in the Bible Belt.

Oh, so he's like, I've seen it all. He's fucked down. Yeah. Anita has a meeting in her backyard during which she has a slideshow. It's grainy photo after grainy photo of men with men and boys with boys, some naked doing things, inappropriate things. A cop speaks and he describes cases and evidence.

Her her son would later say, because he snuck downstairs and saw it. So he's the one who told people this happened. He was like 13. So she's essentially showing her son gay sex. 13. So she's essentially showing her son gay sex. Yes. And she's like, they they are using images like this to recruit children. Mom, oh, sweet God. Save Our Children makes a commercial. And it compares

Miami's Orange Bowl parade with the San Francisco Freedom Day parade. And this is the commercial. Oh fuck. My boy. The Orange Bowl parade, Miami's gift to the nation, awesome entertainment. But in San Francisco, when they take to the streets, it's a parade of homosexuals, men hugging other men, flirting with little boys, wearing dresses and makeup. The same people who turned San Francisco

into a hotbed of homosexuality want to do the same thing to Dade County. On June 7, vote for the human rights of your children. Vote for repeal of Metro's dangerous homosexual ordinance Boy they are Yeah, it's just this Men men in dresses just how's that just I mean

Men hugging men. I've been to the I've been to a few gay parades and oh yeah shocking stuff but oh my god I we one time we were shooting something and we our van got caught in the gay pride parade. It's amazing. And I mean the amount of of naked, like, I mean, you just, it's it's definitely like you're definitely like that's a lot of penises on bikes. I never thought I'd see. But at no point were you like, this is my life.

And also, I don't think I doubt it's that extreme, like as it became years later. It's right 73. So it's just kind of newish. So it's also gives up. Obviously goes out saying. But these people are shocked by anything. So, yeah. So, yeah.

So they use that as their basically saying like, guess what Miami will become. So and there were like a lot of people in Miami like that's. Yeah, that looks fun. So a couple of groups formed to fight back. One was backed by an activist millionaire who owned a national chain of gay bathhouses. So volunteers would go door to door. They wrote in vans labeled gay hounds and trail gaze. Oh, I mean, that definitely didn't help her fucking and trail gay.

I mean, that definitely didn't help her fucking phobia or night. Like gay house. Oh my God, they have vans. Gay celebrities came to Florida to help. The campaign was called Operation Come On Down. Activists all over the country are raising money. Someone threw a Molotov cocktail through the window of the Gay Rights Coalition in Miami.

One gay activist had a shotgun pointed at his head. Ruth Schach was followed into a department store dressing room where a woman slammed her against a wall and spit in her face. People called into a gay activist radio show to say all gay people should be deported. Others said they should be executed. An activist had his car set on fire. So these are the supposed good people doing all this stuff.

These are the religious ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You imagine if your kids fell in with the wrong crowd. So Coates calls for what he called a gay cot of orange juice. A gay cot. I love it.

Moderate gay leaders, however, said gay people were not in a position to make threats and they should be sensible about this. So they did not endorse a boycott, so Kunz then quits the coalition and goes ahead with the gay cot. Well, what is it Martin Luther King Jr. said about the moderates? I think it's thank God for Jr. said about the moderates? I think it's thank God for them. That's the way to do it.

They do it slowly and barely. That's the proof. Yeah, just incrementalism is our friend, I believe is the quote. Lesbian groups. We have a plausible thought that's in the speech. A lesbian group also bails because there's so much sexism in the coalition. But now so gay bars start replacing screwdrivers with the Anita Bryant cocktail, which is made from vodka and apple juice.

Celebrities like Barbara Streisand, John Waters, Mary Tyler Moore, endorsed the boycott. Barbara Streisand, John Waters, Mary Tyler Moore endorsed the boycott. Merch is made with slogans like Anita Bryant, Sucks Oranges. A New York group called the Gay Grillas starts puncturing orange juice cartons in grocery stores. Oh, that's great. But the boycott does not impact Florida's citrus. Dade County's Democratic Party Leader said they supported the ordinance, quote,

but we're not going to make a full out effort. Classic. It's so classic. Always. Yeah. The Democratic. We believe what you believe. Just by our not enough to do anything please so the democratic governor of Florida opposes it and said quote I do not want a known homosexual teaching my child I want an unknown homosexual teaching much will you hear me out I want the the gay person teaching

my child on a misg want my child not to know. None of it makes sense. The Democratic, is the Democratic governor? Jesus Christ. The mayor is against it. Gay opponents wrote songs like, I don't need Anita by the Four Swallows. Gay opponents? Wait, you mean opponents of her?

Yes. Yeah, right. OK, right. Weeks before the vote, 10,000 people from 75 churches packed the Miami Beach Convention Hall for the Christians for God and decency rally. Jerry Falwell and other religious leaders spoke. This old girl loves the Lord. She has a precious family and she has a love for your children. Somebody had to lead the battle. Somebody had to raise up the banner. Because I want to tell you we're dealing with a vile and a vicious and a vulgar gang.

They kill you as quick as look at you. I had no... Wow. They kill you. It's like, what are you talking about? It is, it's just this escalatory language that is used. I mean It is just always as usual it is always shocking to see that escalation go from bullshit to what is happening

Yeah, they want to kill you. No, they just don't want to be fired from their jobs. What are you talking about? Yeah, they just don't want to get fired. I mean, they're trying to kill you. Bob Koontz worked for a Miami soccer professional club and once left a pamphlet on his desk that was like from a gay something and someone walked in and saw it and fired him on the spot.

I mean, by the way, maybe it's pamphlet is a little, you know what I mean? That's that only helps. That's a little in your face. How to be a gay. This is what they're handing out. No, it was like a pamphlet for like. Yeah, right. Well, what a camp or some shit. Like it was like a pamphlet for like, yeah, right. But what a camp or some shit like it was like a getaway kind of right. Not Dave not helping. Yeah. So Anita at this gay camp, she's like, exactly. Anita at this convention, saying two songs. The president of World of Life International said, quote, if this bill passes in Dade County in favor of the gay crowd

It would be the end of the United States of America Calm the fuck down calm the fuck down. We the strongest. What are we what tell me again? What we are what we are the most resilient the best strongest country in the world unless the gays are allowed to not be fired unless Okay, sure really just feels like a very slippery slope around the San Francisco America will be over done The San Francisco sheriff and Psychologists what do you. What took down America? The gays.

They let people be gay. They were not allowed to be fired anymore. Yeah, not even yet. Not allowed to be fired. The San Francisco Sheriff and some psychologists were flown out to counter claims that gay teachers recruit children through molestation. Ed Asner. And the idea that the church is doing this.estation. Ed Asner. It's the idea that the church is doing this. Oh, of course.

Of course it is. Ed Asner makes a TV ad saying if gays lose their rights, Jews might be next. Anita then tries to appeal to Jewish voters by going to a rally for Soviet Jews and there her kids wave the Israeli flag. On Mother's Day, Sabar Chuljan takes out a huge ad in the Miami Herald, almost a full page. It has a collage of headlines about men molesting

children and explained what homosexuals want, quote, repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent, teaching in school that the gay lifestyle was a healthy alternative and more just goes on. And it added that, quote, homosexuals who keep their sexual activities and the privacy of their homes face no discrimination. That. I just. It's just. God damn.

At what any point does anyone go, how do you know so? It's just god damn. I have any point. Does anyone go? How do you know so much about what they're doing? Well, we have a Friday night grainy photo get together at Anita's house. Yeah. The media doesn't help, if you can imagine. Yeah. The media doesn't help if you can imagine.

By the 1970s, there was overwhelming scientific research that showed gay men were not predisposed to be sexually attracted to children. But the media cannot stop pushing the lie that being gay and pedophilia are connected. And Anita also said the Dade County ordinance would protect the right to have sex with beasts. It's, it, have I said this? Someone needs to step in and just. Have I said this yet? It's about not getting fired.

It's sex with bees. Hey, what if I, what if I, what if I can say I'm gay at work and I don't get fired? You're gonna fuck a cat. But beasts also, beasts also like frames it as like, it is so revelationsy where it's like, was no one like, what is a a beast we don't have those I know

but just imagine they're gonna be banging them too save our children put out a document in their press kit with the title why certain sexual deviations are punishable by death. Jesus Christ. The problem with making the opposition campaign about human rights instead of a gay issue was that they didn't defend themselves against these attacks. And especially the attacks on how gay people would harm children.

They're just letting them go unanswered. Right, Right. Days before the vote, Anita and Kunst debated at the Kiwanis Club. For six of her allotted 12 minutes, Anita sang the battle hymn of the Republican. Oh my God. It's just... Republican. Oh my God. Just the irony that the anti gay side is the one turning it into a musical. I mean, you're just like

rebutt rebuttal. I'm sorry, I don't know what the fuck. I don't have a song. What just happened? I guess my role as buttholes. I'm sorry, I don't know what the fuck. I don't have a song. What just happened? I guess my words, buttles, I'm gonna sing Xanadu? Yeah. Ha ha ha. She's a grand old flag, she's a high fly and fly.

What is this again? Is a debate, right? Having to jump in every like couple minutes on that. 30 seconds. On June 7th, 1977, Dade residents voted to repeal the anti-discrimination ordinance two hundred and two thousand to ninety thousand. The New York Times reported Anita was quote dancing a jig at her Miami Beach home.

Bob kissed her in front of photographers and said, quote, this is what heterosexuals do, fellas. Oh boy, oh boy. God. Anita, quote, all America and the world will hear what the people have said. And with God's continued help, we will prevail in our fight to repeal similar laws throughout the nation, which attempt to legitimize

a lifestyle that is both perverse and dangerous. State legislators in Florida use the momentum to pass legislation banning gay marriage and adoption the next day. The governor then signed both bills the day after the vote. Now. Something had happened, though. Anita Bryant for the gay rights movement, the Beast Coalition was.

Oh, God, she became Satan to that. And what she did by saying this shit and being this monstrous was she galvanized the gay rights activists. Koons quote, she gave us every access to world media. We had over 50,000 news clippings. This was the turning point where gay became a household word, and we opened up the entire debate on human sexuality. And that's the end of part one, and next week, Anita will get the rewards for her bigotry and being a fucking monster as her career dies.

And then it is fun what happens to her. So man, this is no different than what's happening to trans people. It's the exact same playbook. It's the exact same playbook. It's the exact same arguments. It's 60 fucking years later. JK Rowling is fucking needed, Bryant. These are the same fucking people doing the exact same shit saying we need to get people out of schools.

It's kids again. It's all the same fucking shit. It has not changed one bit. The same fucking monsters are doing the same fucking things. No, it is. You just and by the way, Florida, Florida again. Yeah. It is just like, you know, a country that.

like, you know, a country that predicates its brilliance on pure unadulterated freedom that is constantly worried that letting people live how they feel and want is not okay. And yet we still get high off of the same slogans. And it is, it's like, yeah, I mean, it is just the same shit. Same shit, exact same shit. Yeah, so next week, ooh, it's fun. It's tasty. Is it, can we still drink orange juice or is that orange juice doesn't come out of this looking good. Orange juice gets worse as this story goes on.

Christ. I mean, you imagine juice. Juice, juice being like, well, well, sorry, unfortunately. You know, we here at Orange. We don't want our kids to be seeing beast fucking. Enjoy your juice. As the president of Oranges. Which I guess is Trump.

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