The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 620 - Anita Bryant - Part Two

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:04:48 I think we tried that version originally and you needed to bring someone in. It was weird. June 7th, 1977. The citizens of Miami voted to discriminate against gay people. In the workplaces. Boy, you really not pull at punches when it comes to your bias, huh? In the workplaces, they're homes and they're unions. They could now be fired, kicked out of their apartments, or kicked out of their union for being gay.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Anita Bryant had led and been the face of the movement. She was, she now said, however, that her singing career was ruined and that she lost 70% of her bookings. Good. Conventions could not book her, quote, I did a grand total of two state fairs in 1977. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah, we are happy with this. Yes. A company dropped out of sponsoring a weekly variety show. She was replaced by Rita Moreno as co-host of the orange bull parade. Oh, she's lost it all. NBC said it wasn't because of her crusade against gays or that there were threats by gay activists to protest the parade. It was just that Rita Marino was very successful and no one was locked into the job. Sure. Also...
Starting point is 00:06:22 Bullshit, by the way. Yeah, she was being a monster and read a like everybody loves Rita Moreno. There's no one who does. I mean, she's such a horrible monster. She should be scaring people that that's what's going to happen in the streets if gay people are allowed dignity. Gay activist Bob Coontz said, quote, I told NBC there was no question that there would be demonstrations at the parade. So funny to be like that's a threat. There will be demonstrations at the parade. Yeah, a parade is a bunch of demonstrations. But the Florida...
Starting point is 00:07:00 We'll show up at Barnum and Bailey. That turned that place into a circus. We'll show up at Barnum and Bailey that turned that place into a circus. But the Florida Citrus Commission said they received 85,000 letters. I can't believe there's another FCC and they're all so crazy. 85,000 letters backing Anita 3-1. Okay. Yeah. Although a minister in Missouri said it was a thousand to one. Facts. A poll. So the Florida Citrus Commission does a poll.
Starting point is 00:07:36 They do a study and they find that 89% of orange juice buyers weren't bothered by Anita's crusade. Can you just get your orange juice buyers weren't bothered by Anita's crusade. Can you just find, get your orange juice. But what do you just get a different person? You shouldn't be having to go do this much like street vetting to be like, hey, what is so, how, how effective are you by the gay discrimination bill? Well, I mean, I'd still drink. So look, I think we can retain a lot of our oranges.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Just get, you do not need her. She is not queen of oranges. They lost 11%. You just get a different, what? You shouldn't lose any percent from your spokesperson. You should know percent. Yeah, you should be like, look, we're taking out a lot of water right now.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah, you should be like, look, we're taking out a lot of water right now. They kept Anita as books. Well, I mean, of course, we think we can weather the Anita storm. Her book sold better because of the controversy. She put out two books in 1977. Fort Lauderdale, Gainesville, Palm Beach and Austin had all proposed banning discrimination based on sexual orientation. Those were all defeated now. The Department of Housing and Urban Development had just put a new rule in place allowing unmarried and same-sex couples federally financed housing that was reversed. God damn it. Although some cities did pass gay rights laws, Aspen, Iowa City, Wichita, Eugene, so not all.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Okay. Save Our Children's Success led to similar groups forming in other cities to fight similar laws. And then Bob and Nina would go on the road and help them. Soon, St. Paul, Wichita which Don Eugene overturned their ordinances. Oh, Christ. Anita's campaign led to, if you can believe this, increased harassment of LGBTQ people. Hmm, weird. Weird how that works.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah, that's odd. Strange. On June 22nd, two gay men in San Francisco were attacked by four men. One of them was stabbed 15 times and died, and one of the attackers said, quote, here's one for Anita. Ugh. You almost got to thank that guy for being that fucking stupid, but that's horrible. Just one idiot.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The dead man's mother filed a $ million dollar lawsuit against Anita and save our children for their campaign of hate. But a US judge would dismiss it because the jurisdiction, Florida, California, a week after the murder, three hundred, what? She couldn't file a lawsuit Because it took place in California against them because because I think because I don't know exactly why but I think because the
Starting point is 00:10:36 the act of the attacking gay people happened in Florida while This happened in California the this happened in California. The murder happened in California. That seems strange. It was something about, yeah, the things taking place in both places. But I can't be sure.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm sure a lawyer is pulling on his hair right now. So a week after the murder, 300,000 people walked in the annual Gay Freedom Parade in San Francisco. It was three times larger than any previous parade. Now, because Anita had used the film clips from the parade in that commercial, organizers asked everyone to dress conservatively at the gate parade. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:28 What an interesting vibe. Can you imagine? No. Hey, so this gate parade is all suits? What's going on? I think it's a Christian parade. Just looks like Mormons. Yeah, so that absolutely did not happen.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Right. And the mood was super festive. Imagine. A cop spoke and said, quote, this is not just a parade. And it's more intensity than most parades. It's striking back. They seem interested above all and letting people know they want human rights. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. Harvey Milk gave a big speech. She's calving. So it's milk versus orange juice. Milk Milk gave a big speech. Mm-hmm. She's got my people. So it's Milk versus Orange Juice. Milk versus OJ, yeah. So she's, you know, obviously more people are now active, right? Yeah, right. Now, Anita says she and her family are receiving crank phone calls,
Starting point is 00:12:20 death and kidnapping threats. The idea that she is like, where is this coming from? What? What did you think was going to happen? What do you tell like, nope. I mean, I'm sure there are people who feel bad for, but it's just like, yeah, no shit stupid. Yeah, right. There are bomb threats.
Starting point is 00:12:40 None of these are documented. She just says it's what happened. But the family has now has security at all times. Bob later wrote, quote, our family endured years of bomb threats, boycotts and violent protests at our bookings. A typical one was in Chicago where we started with the usual bomb threat on the airplane.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Three SWAT teams has escorted registering at a dummy hotel while under guard at another location, being driven on the floor of an unmarked police car, the audience was barraged by human waste, verbal abuse, and disruptions at the non-issue-oriented concert. You almost shouldn't say any of this is happening because even just hearing it now, I'm like, awesome.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, no, it sounds fine. Oh, cool, people threw shit at you? That's awesome. That's great. Good, you had to pay fine. Oh, cool. People threw shit at you? That's awesome. That's great. Good. You had to pay for two hotels? Good. I mean, if anything, it gives you the idea like, oh yeah, we should be throwing shit
Starting point is 00:13:33 at them. Yeah, we should throw more shit at them. Oh, bags of piss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bags of piss. Anita records a song called There's Nothing Like The Love Between A Woman and A Man. Oh my god. What the fucking asshole?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Oh god, it's just intolerable. It's just intolerable. It's just, it's so, yeah. It's just the worst. Just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst.
Starting point is 00:14:00 It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just the worst. It's just, it's so, yeah. God. It's worst. Just the worst.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But, no. By the way, you don't know? You don't know? None of you know that? Yeah, you don't know that. You know what? Bob doesn't know that. Anita, I can guarantee you that a woman goes down on you better than any man ever could.
Starting point is 00:14:22 That would be great. Certainly better than any man ever could. That would be great. I needed to figure this out, allow me to suck Bob's dick. But no record company is willing to buy and distribute the single. They don't go near it. Why? I don't know because they don't like Christians. It's so strange. Anita said gay people were blacklisting her. Bob quote, we just want to get back to leading normal lives.
Starting point is 00:14:56 This is no fun. Hey dipshit. Hey dipshit. Hey huge dipshit. I mean, yeah, what'd you think? You thought you'd win and that's it? The idea that they are like, we just want to be able to live our lives in public with dignity.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah. Hey, is there any sect of the population you're relating to? We just want to get back to leading normal lives. This is no fun and games. The homosexuals are haunting us wherever we go. Bro, you, what a fuck, it's remarkable. It really is. The victimization of this, listen,
Starting point is 00:15:42 we just, where is this coming from? We're just nice people trying to control the lives of people we've never met. Late night talk show hosts like Johnny Carson were regularly making jokes about Anita. On October 6, an interview with Anita was published in the Des Moines Register. She said if she knew what was going to happen, she quote, would probably have dug a hole six feet under for myself, but I'm willing to pay the price. I think it is worth it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 She's saying what, that she would rather die, that doing this. Maybe she should have just killed herself. Not sure. But she's been strange. that doing this, maybe she should have just... Killed herself? Not sure. But she's... A bit strange. She's willing to pay the price. It's like as much as she's complaining and crying, she's like, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:35 No, she's, yeah, no. It's worth it. Yeah, you gotta do the double down. She said gay people were flaunting their homosexuality and demanding to teach it in high school as a lifestyle. It's just, man. This, this, this whole, it's just nuts. It's nuts.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Hey, who do you have for gay? Who's your teacher for gay? I have free period. Then I have math and then gay and then it's lunch. Shit. Then I have math and then gay and then it's lunch Shit The next day a rally for decency was held at the Indiana State Fairgrounds a Human rights group said they would pick it quote because she represents a force of evil and persecution She should not be allowed near any land that is distinguished as fair
Starting point is 00:17:25 Anita and Bob held the press conference. She said the usual, gays are sinners, like murderers. There's a national conspiracy to ruin her career. It was so bad that journalists walked out while she was talking. You know, she's doing the thing which happens and which you still see a tremendous amount, which is that when you have no real evidence, you need to keep elevating your language. And at some point, even to those who have maybe been listening a little bit, it starts to take on a bit of absurdity. You cannot be that disconnected.
Starting point is 00:18:10 They are murderer. It's like, lady, what are you talking about? Are they fucking beasts or are they killing people? Meanwhile, one of your guys said this one's for Anita when killing someone. Yeah. And meanwhile, at Orange Juice headquarters, they were like, look. OK, just hear me out. I think if she why don't we make her the pulp free person
Starting point is 00:18:35 and then we can maybe get back to basics with the calcium enriched ones. So about 7000 people came to that rally. There are about 500 protesters. The next week, Anita was speaking at a Des Moines press conference when activist Tom Higgins stepped forward and hit her in the face with a pie. Newsmen were questioning Ms. Bryant about her national crusade against gay persons when four self-proclaimed homosexuals from Minneapolis interrupted today's proceedings. If we were going to go on a crusade across the nation and try to do away with the homosexuals,
Starting point is 00:19:18 then we certainly would have done it on June the 8th after one of the most overwhelming victories in the country. But we didn't. We tried to avoid it and went into a place called North Fort Virginia. And we're met with protest and all kinds of problems. And every. Oh! Three against three.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Let him stay. Let him stay. Well, at least it's a fruit pie. Let's pray for him right now. Anita, let's pray. Anita wanted to pray. That's all right. Father, we want to thank you. Bryant burst into tears as the pie ran down her face. A little while later, Bryant's husband found the four pie throwers in a parking lot talking with newsmen.
Starting point is 00:20:03 The four still had a banana cream pie with them, and despite his earlier plea for non-retaliation, Brian's husband took it and threw it in one of the pie throwers' face. To more authorities say no charges will be filed in connection with today's incident. Dennis Golden, News 5. Oh, I can't, I, as I was like starting to listen to that, I was like, man, I wish there was video. That is extremely satisfying for audio Yeah, it is it really and also this rambling the scrambling of like, let's pray. Let's pray. Let's pray right now. Let's pray So it was like he it was like she wanted to clean herself up But he made her pray because yes that would be and then again like you
Starting point is 00:20:41 rightfully reacted to the beauty of someone crying through pie. Having a pie cry. And trying, they really like scrambled horribly because she's like, she's like, at least it's fruit pie. We need to pray. Now she's crying. Now he's gonna go throw a pie at one of them They did everything wrong basically And and she when she started praying she first asked God to deliver him from his deviant lifestyle And then she started sobbing As Tom was taken out Bob yelled quote, you know saw you you do that this man is from Rolling Stone and pointed at a reporter who was with him. And the reporter went over and started wiping the pie off her face.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh my God. Because Bob isn't doing it. Oh my God. But also, surely a Rolling Stone reporter is not like, I'm on your side. No. And he was also'm on your side. No. And he was also gay in the closet. No one knew he was gay at the time. So, so, Bob's like, well, they're gonna hear about that
Starting point is 00:21:53 in this Christian rag known as the Rolling Stone. Meanwhile, the Rolling Stone reporter's like, it was hilarious. She was crying through pie. She had pie eye. Well, in actuality, he was doing a piece for Playboy. Oh, so this guy, oh, so he right. The reporter was Ken Kelly. He had joined them for a tour across the Bible Belt.
Starting point is 00:22:18 When the pie was thrown, a glob of pie landed on his suit and he threw it back at Tom while muttering insults. on his suit and he threw it back at Tom while muttering insults. So after the Pai attack, Ken is in the limo with Anita and Bob and she still has meringue in her hair and on her clothes and was quote, quite distraught. And then Ken told them he had found the pie box. It was quote, a banquet banana cream and the prices, let's see here, 69 cents. Now, Ken was one of the few people who was able to really get close to see their relationship and it was not a good relationship. Now Bob says, after Ken says that, Bob says it needed, doesn't know what 69 means. Okay, so it is that. I was wondering, you left a, I'm like, she's the one claiming that heteros have the best sex and she doesn't
Starting point is 00:23:27 know 69. She she then starts confronting Bob and asking, well, tell me what it means. And Bob just ignores her. So Ken takes out a piece of paper. Oh, I didn't see he doesn't need to draw it. And draws two stick figures in the 69 position. Ah. Quote, Anita looks, understands, Anita gasps.
Starting point is 00:24:00 The round brown eyes, her emotional scoreboard, tilt back in their sockets. Is... Is that what it means? Bob looks out his window. Anita looks out her window. I look straight ahead. I feel like a child molester. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Oh man. Man, oh man. I mean, there are so many. It just shows you the level of derangement. You don't get to tell me how to live if you don't know what 69 is. You don't get to claim that your sex is better than the other sex you've never had when you're not using the full arsenal at all. Oh my lord. Good golly. Oh, the joy of him. When he was drawing that, he was probably like,
Starting point is 00:25:00 this is gonna be awesome. This is gonna be amazing. Oh, god. Yeah, he was doing it all for the story, right? He knew what he was. Yeah. So October 28th. That's a penis and that's a.
Starting point is 00:25:11 No, I understand of a giant. I get it. The, so the penis goes in the mouth. I know I understand. And then the other stick figure Tom comes out and goes in the vagina. Yes, I understand. I ended up.
Starting point is 00:25:24 The clown, the click mostly. Please stop. Stop. No, no, no, no, no, not the click. And then I am a stay in it. The clon, the clit mostly. Please stop. Stop. No, no, no, no, no, not the clit. Stop talking. Please. Often they'll try to work it so it both happens at once. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:34 The same time. What happens? No, I don't even want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. Don't tell me. Well, that's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And then he shoots in her mouth. Stop. Stop. Sir, please stop explaining to her what the 69 is. Please stop. Please. Am I winking? Yes. Yeah. Please stop. Apologies. Look, look, we've been through. Anita, it's pretty obvious. It's giant mouth cock face. Yes. Yeah, please stop. Apologies. Look, look, we've been through Anita.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It's pretty obvious. It's giant mouth cock face. That's all it is. Same time. Just imagine two cart cart wheel and sexual bandits into each other. Her new book is giant. Wheel.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Cock face. Tell me. Cart wheel. Cock mouth giant head. So on October 28th Anita held a concert at Notre Dame University and only 500 people came. It was a 10,000 seat arena. She led them though in prayer for gay people on what couples live in together and divorced
Starting point is 00:26:43 couples. So she's praying that they'll be saved. Saved. And now it's like the expansion of alternative lifestyle for lack of a better term. Oh yeah. Straight like people. Like even if you were like, yeah, I get what she's saying. Like, well, yeah, but if you're not married and you're like, you're like living with someone that's, wait, what? Yeah. What's going on? Yeah, so now you're weird. You're not okay.
Starting point is 00:27:14 The next month, she had a show in St. Petersburg, Florida and protesters caused it to sell out. Like more people heard about it. It sold out. 400 protesters showed up and Anita's fans could not believe it. One man quote, they are repulsive, sickening. Another woman said she would pray to them. One woman held a sign that said Satan loves fruits. So dumb. I mean just so dumb. A small group of men wearing Ku Klux Klan t-shirts and carrying a Confederate flag exchanged angry words for the protesters.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Dave, one of the Klan members, quote, I'm here because I believe in the Bible and these people go against God's name. Listen, I don't mind what they do, but the idea that they're out in public wearing funny outfits and prancing around with their little oddities, you can believe what you want, but keep it in your house. Yes, that's right. I'm wearing a sheet and letting you know that only whites should have rights. That's God. That's why God told me through a book that was written by a guy
Starting point is 00:28:28 that was translated repeatedly. And written it under years after he died. And was kind of based around a guy who wasn't white. In May, 1972, an interview by Ken Kelly with Anita was published in Playmoy magazine. She had changed some of her positions like she now thought gay people should be punished. But I'm going to read a different part of the interview that doesn't have anything to do with that because it's amazing and just let me get all the way through it. Playboy, didn't your biggest shock about homosexuals come when you realized that male homosexuals
Starting point is 00:29:07 eat each other's sperm? A Miami reporter briefly quoted you as saying the reason God calls homosexuality an abomination is that homosexuals eat spermatozoa, the building block of blood, so therefore, homosexuals are swallowing and presumably digesting the essence of life? Bryant, I did not, um, I did not say that to any reporter, not, I'm not that stupid. Playboy, did you say it to anybody? Bryant, I was overheard talking to a reformed homosexual on the phone, and I had no idea our conversation would ever get printed. It was a very personal thing and I never dreamed it would get printed. The reporter deceived me. I was very naive about the media then. Since then I've been trained.
Starting point is 00:29:53 At that time I was like a babe among the wolves. Playboy, but you did say it. It was a personal thing. I don't want to talk about it. You could take this opportunity to explain yourself rather than let it stand as an overheard conversation. Well, I was witnessing to this guy and I didn't let on that I knew he had been a homosexual. And I threw the question at him because I wasn't sure myself and wanted to find out.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I had read about the phenomenon, but I wasn't sure it was true. See, I was at my desk one night and I was reading and studying. It was about one in the morning when I read about, so she goes on, playboy, you mean swallowing sperm? Brian, yeah. When I read about it, I about fell oh my God, this can't be true. That was the first time I really knew. I mean, I had seen and writing before what they did in bed and so forth, but I never knew they ate the male sperm.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I just wanted to fall off the chair. So when this guy called, I wanted to really find out if what I'd went was true. So I just wanted to find off the chair so when this guy called I wanted to really find out if what I'd read was true. So I very casually I, oh by the way do you know that homosexuals ate the male sperm? What did he say? He said yes. And? And I still couldn't believe it. Why not? Well throughout the Bible particularly in the Old Testament men are referred to as trees even in the Garden of Eden when even when God returned to the Tree of Life he was talking about the whole
Starting point is 00:31:37 spiritual salvation of men and so forth and in the New Testament it says Jesus was called the fruit of the womb, which is very interesting because even the homosexuals know this, did you know there's a group in Seattle called itself the fruit loops? So? Why do you think homosexuals are called fruits? It's because they eat the forbidden fruit of the tree of life. God referred to man as trees and because homosexuals eat the forbidden fruit of the tree of life. God refer to man as trees, and because homosexuals eat the forbidden fruit, fruit which is male sperm,
Starting point is 00:32:09 there's even a jockey short called forbidden fruit. Very subtle. Did you know that? Playboy, no, we only heard of Fruit of the Loot. What? Oh my God. Boy, there is a ton being revealed there. Holy fucking shit. I mean, like... Wow. And obviously Bob never got his dick sucked.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Never Bob never got his dick sucked. Never. I mean, it just... Not by Anita anyway. Yeah, right. No, he was probably, yeah, finding other places but- But she, she did not blowy and- And she can't imagine that, like, she truly, I mean, look, no brainer, right? But she clearly is in no position to be legislating against any sort of sexuality when she has no clue what it is. She doesn't know 69, she doesn't, I mean I wonder if she even know that cum comes out of a dick. Seriously she has like what-
Starting point is 00:33:25 She knows that because it's the God's, Jesus' fruit or whatever. Sure. Let me tell you something. Here's how I learned about sex, okay? It was the 4th of July and we were down by the lake in Milwaukee, a bunch of us. I was probably 6 or 7 years old. I was being me like a little fucking character weirdo, right, make it some jokes. And I made a joke, I said something about sex. And people laughed. And someone goes, what is sex?
Starting point is 00:33:54 And I go, that's where the man puts his penis in the woman's butt and he pees. And everyone laughed, right? True. It's probably close to what she thinks. You might have known more. I mean, honestly, what is she thinking? She didn't know what a fucking blowjob was.
Starting point is 00:34:18 She thinks it's only a guy. It's remarkable. It's fucking amazing. The best question in the article though is so Yeah, I Mean she's like she's like fucking 40 right now. Oh, yeah, and and leading a crusade against Acts that she doesn't she she has no concept of. No concept.
Starting point is 00:34:47 She didn't know what 69ing is. No, it's incredible. What does she think? It would be so, I would love to just sit there and like, just lead, just like, I would love to just lead weird, just give her weird questions. I mean, I'd love to fuck her and put a finger in her ass and watch her face. The poop one.
Starting point is 00:35:11 The poop one. Now you put a digit in me. Me. Me. Me. me. Me! Me! Me! Me! Me!
Starting point is 00:35:29 So a month after that article came out in Playboy, Anita was the keynote speaker at the Southern Baptist Convention. Two thousand people pick it outside and that was one of the first times an organized group of straight activists joined an organized group of LGBTQ activists. Well, they probably read that article and they were like, it's... This woman doesn't know what a blow job is. She doesn't know what cock could go in a mouth. She's not one of us.
Starting point is 00:36:02 She's not one of us strengths. Yeah, we're not claiming this woman. I cannot. I Dave, I cannot get over that interview. That is on like he must have been like whoever was like writing it was like, did I get this writer wrong? No, no, that's right. That's word perfect. In Playboy.
Starting point is 00:36:29 In Playboy of all fucking things. That readership was like, what? What the fuck? Lady, I've got come all over this magazine already. This magazine's been eating mine for years. This is like, what are you talking about? Take your weird non-come ideas away from the come rag. So despite all this, she is voted
Starting point is 00:36:55 Good Housekeeping's most admired woman of 1978. And then she would get it for the next two, the two years after that, too. But in 1978, ladies home journal poll, students picked her as the woman who had done the most damage in the world. The man they picked was Hitler. Oh my god. It's great to thank you. Oh boy. Am I supposed to write an acceptance speech? No, no. Okay, yeah. Am I supposed to write an acceptance speech? No, no. Oh, okay, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:39:58 So televangelists are better at raising funds for their anti-gay crusades. So Anita and Bob go back to Miami and opened the Anita Bryant Ministries. It shared an office with the staff of Protect America's Children. Oh, did I mention Save Our Children was forced to change their name because there was already a group called Save Our Children in Connecticut who actually helped children. And so they sued and they had to change their name because there was already a group called Save Our Children in Connecticut
Starting point is 00:40:25 who actually helped children and so they sued and they had to change their name to protect America's children. So her ministry sends out mass mailings asking for gifts of love to fight the fight against gay rights. Anita and Bob are fighting constantly at this point. Her health gets really bad and she would attribute to her relationship, quote, underneath Bob had a hate, a contempt for me. Who can withstand constant rejection, no respect, no trust, no affection, no love life, no recognition as a worthwhile human being. Something's got to give.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's really difficult because you kind of want to trace where does this compulsion come from? Obviously, some of it is just, you know, religion and all that shit. the fact that she's in an unhappy marriage. Yeah. And is thinks that dictating to others that this is the only way to, it's like. And she's praying for divorced people and living in a shit marriage.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And so it's really like, what in a way you do think that it kind of has to just be again amidst a swamp of ludicrous delusion that happiness is also her enemy to some extent. Yeah, yeah, totally. I totally yeah. She thinks she doesn't deserve it. And that's like, yeah. So she has severe headaches. She has chest pains.
Starting point is 00:42:15 She has a hard time. It would be so great to dress up like a doctor and just prescribe semen. There's actually homeopathic. This is called the homeosexual solve. It's homeopathic and gay. I think you should try it. She's a hard time swallowing.
Starting point is 00:42:33 She has arthritis. She has no shit yet. A hard time swallowing, Dave. We learned that from the interview. Good Lord. During a tour of the Holy Land, she collapses and is hospitalized with 24 hour neck down paralysis. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Come on. What the fuck? I mean. The paralysis, no. Nope, nope. I get you have a bunch of stressed up going on. You know what it's called Dave? A long sleep.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Her body is dead. She's still breathing but her body won't be moving. After this, she became addicted to sleeping pills and and mixing with wine and all the good stuff. She doesn't care if she lives. Anita Wee. Yeah, Anita later. Quote, he looked, she's talking about Bob, he looked like Robert Redford and he was the first man I ever slept with.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I was lonely and needy, very naive and unhappy, which clouded my ability to look at what you should look at in a man. I had such doubts about getting married and I was depressed all through the honeymoon and our problems never ended after that. And yet you still went out there and lied and said, you're happy and heterosexuality is the way for happiness and the plan. It's just dog shit.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So they get marriage counseling. Oh, fuck, that counselor was like, boof. No, it was from a fundamentalist minister. Oh, Baptist fundamentalist minister. So he, the minister starts now taking a role in the ministry. And then pretty soon he's running. I'm going to need a bright ministries. OK. So he's now.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Have you thought about having me run the entire operation? You know what would help your marriage? If I was in charge and I took a larger salary, I thought you were going to say blow jobs. Oh, good Lord. God gave every man a straw and a milkshake. Okay, so this guy's running up on. How great would it be to be the blowjob preacher? And the Lord did decree that his cock shall be sucked like the serpent in the garden. So they've lost their income because she's not touring. So Bob wants a large salary, but the ministry is running at a loss, even though they get two million dollars in donations a year.
Starting point is 00:45:19 So employees start quitting. The marketing manager sees enemies everywhere, and when they get a questionnaire from the Better Business Bureau, he refused to disclose anything and wanted to send a counter letter demanding they verify there are no gays in the Better Business Bureau. Buddy, I don't think that's going to go over great. So did they send back their paperwork? Just send us the thing that said no gays, right? Yes or no?
Starting point is 00:45:53 Wow. So again, truly, obviously, but the idea there is that if clearly there's an animus because you are gays and you are evil, well, they are just a criminal organization, probably, to some extent. Yeah. And the better business bureau is just setting out a random questionnaire about stuff. It's not like an attack. It's just like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Right. Yeah. Doth protest too much. A big part of the ministry's was counseling to turn gay people into straight people with the help of God. Which, by the way, I think no matter where you stand on this issue, we can agree that that is effective. Oh, very.
Starting point is 00:46:36 So a reporter goes undercover and does the counseling and then he publishes a series of articles about the experience under an alias because he is not out also. Sure. The ministry buys a building that had been a religious television station. So it's going to be the headquarters and the whole operation and then it has a recording studio and there need a recorded 30 minute long song and guest shows that they would sell to radio stations. So the marriage counselor minister guy insists that Anita submit to Bob in all decisions.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He's the man. And then she realizes that the minister and Bob are conspiring to basically take over the ministry. God, I was so hoping they were going to be banging. So Anita decides to leave Bob. And in May 1890, there is a meeting. Sorry. And in May 1890, there is a meeting. Sorry, in May 1980, there is a meeting of the Anita Bryant Ministries Board. And they tell Anita that she has to stay with Bob or she will be excommunicated. Maybe this is 1890.
Starting point is 00:48:01 My slip. I mean, I, uh, good God. Otherwise, we put a sack over your head and send you out of town on horseback heretic. We're going to see if you float. Yeah, truly. Ken Campbell is a Canadian Evangelist and anti-gay advocate and at the meeting he reads a five-page statement. He said the ministry is at stake and she would damage the cause of Christ more than Hugh Hefner. Larry Flint and all the pornographers in the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It must be so weird for her to be getting this treatment from this organization of people and realizing what you're saying is actually just enormously expanded threatening language based on something that is not as big of a threat as you're saying it is. I wonder if at any point she was like, wait, no. So Campbell says the ministry was at stake and she would cause more damage than Hefner, Flint, and pornographers. Quote, you send countless souls to hell because of your rejection of morality and you will embarrass Christ. Ha ha ha ha. Come on, come on. Stop.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Stop speaking for him. So Anita leaves the meeting fucking pissed and she tells them, quote, good luck with Bob Green Ministries. Cause she knows without her, the place is fucked. Yeah, but she also must just be like, wow. Yeah. So, in the press, she accuses Bob and the staff of conspiring to control her.
Starting point is 00:50:12 She tells the Miami Herald, the marriage has been bad for years. But I thought that this straight marriage was so awesome and that was, wasn't that what we were protecting? I mean, she was just like a year ago praying for divorce people. Yeah. And now she, yeah. Yeah. I mean, whoops. Hey, that's weird. She tells the ladies home journal Bob constantly accused her of being unfaithful. She said she wasn't totally innocent because she had fantasized.
Starting point is 00:50:48 But her fantasies must have just been like she would have no idea what to fantasize. Her fantasies is getting fucked under a sheet with a hole in it. Yeah, seriously dude. It would, it all in it, exactly. It's just like, I'm in a dark room under a theater curtain and something quickly goes in me and we have a baby. Ooh, my sexual fantasies. There's no way if you're straight and you hear about blowjobs
Starting point is 00:51:17 that you aren't wondering what it's like to suck a dick. Oh man, you've got to just be. There's no way. Can you also, I mean she probably... I'm about to be fucking gross, so... Oh. You know, hit the skip ahead, but a couple... But like, after this, she probably did give a blowjob
Starting point is 00:51:34 and that guy was probably like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! The hell's going on over here? Aren't you like 45? What the hell? It's like a rake. What are you doing? Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Can't believe you said that. Now, their kids learned they were getting divorced because they heard it on the Today Show. Florida Citrus now drops her as Spokeswoman. Florida Citrus, I think I speak for everyone when I say, your ceiling is bizarre. Because the divorce is... What?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Everything she said, divorce. Wait, by the way, this is the craze. I cannot believe that I have been, smoked so much pot and remember this, but Bert Reynolds ended up becoming the spokesman of Orange Juice. Did he? Is that why he lives in Florida? And then they dropped him when he got divorced
Starting point is 00:52:37 from Lonnie Anderson. No, are you kidding me? I'm like 95% sure. Oh my God. So Orange Juice is just like like they're like Nazis, well, well, but if you get divorced, that's where we... Oh, that's crazy. Christian radio now stops playing Anita's songs.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Wow, they dropped her. And since she is an image being too controversial for Christian radio. Like within her realm of thinking, they're like, sorry. It's a bit much. You. Since she isn't out crusading, papers stop writing about her. So she just kind of, Anita Bryant disappears. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:27 She says she's blacklisted. Sure. She moves with the three youngest kids to Tulsa. Her oldest kid, Bob Jr. stayed with his dad because he was worried Bob was going to kill himself, which is a great burden to put on a child. Absolutely. Oklahoma has a child. Absolutely. Oklahoma has a drought that summer.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So Ken Campbell, the preacher who read the five page statement, points out that since Anita arrived, it had not reigned. And he urged her to return to Bob and he promised if she did, there would be, quote, an outpouring of showers. If she renounced her wickedness. She. It's just delicious that she's getting this treatment. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:54:16 Yeah. You're getting every single fucking thing you did. Yeah. Yeah. Every single thing. So what you want to do is considered not okay and get ready to become the enemy because of it. Yeah. She does not go back to Bob. Bob still wears this.
Starting point is 00:54:35 What's crazy is it hasn't rained in Oklahoma since. It has never. Bob keeps wearing his wedding ring and he publishes an open letter in the paper to Anita. That's how you do it. I mean, that's how you do it Stating he still considered to hers his wife in the eyes of God He told the friend quote no, I'm not doing well. I am grieving Good Anita and a partner open a dress shop in Tulsa and they create a line of designer sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Eyeglasses, sorry. Which the business totally fails. She goes through her savings. She runs up her credit cards. She now has to sell her jewelry to get by. Man, such a shame. Then she meets and falls in love with a very rich guy. Damn it. And she moves to Selma, Alabama to marry him.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Oh, boy. And then he dumps her for a younger woman. Oh man, he called quote the one who gave blow jobs. So Anita then moves to Atlanta and she gets a weekly segment on a nightly news show. She's gonna do opinion stuff. Uh-huh. Her debut got so many angry calls that she was fired after her first show. Wow. Are the ratings in?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Goodbye. I mean, this is what you believe in, right? You believe in angry mobs forcing people to do things. Well, welcome to it. Well, it's different when it's me. Anita Bryant Ministries, because she's not there anymore, is renamed Crusade for Morality. And Bob sends out a letter to the mailing list, which is how they always got their donations. And he asked for money.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Now when they did this, they usually brought in about 2 million. But the results this time were, quote, disastrous. So with that in mind there, why would you give to Bob Green? There's no juice. There's no juice. There's no juice. So they drop conversion therapy and just start holding seminars for married couples on how to live, you know. I mean, again, it's obvious, but the amount of times that they are out loud screaming,
Starting point is 00:57:18 we are a racket. Yeah, just totally. But those seminars are very successful all over the US and Latin America, but Anita is upset that they dropped the conversion therapy. Let it go, lady. In 1988, after 10 years, Anita returns to singing. She has to borrow money to make an album. It's called Anita with Love.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Not even Christian record companies would produce it. And she goes on tour. Quote, I'm paying my dues again. I shouldn't have to yes I was not I was not treated fairly. Oh Nobody ever sold more orange juice than I did Excuse me get out of earth What? The that's what all the great singers said. Walk me again through the barometer?
Starting point is 00:58:27 Nobody. We're so thankful to have here, Tony Award winner, Grammy, Egot Holder. Five, number one hits. Six platinum albums. No one's ever sold more juice than. No one's ever sold more juice than. No one's ever sold more juice than. No one's sold more juice than me. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:58:53 What a pathetic little existence. Pathetic, pathetic. Oh, Gareth, but listen to this. The tour is 20 shows at mobile home parks. 20 shows in 10 days, two shows a night, never at the same mobile home park. She's doing two mobile home parks a night. Who even comes up with the idea of a mobile home park tour? Oh, and who is? Dude, to a night. The Indian. If any audience could come to you, it is the mobile homes.
Starting point is 00:59:44 The Indian Creek Mobile Park show was sold out. 500 gray hairs in polyester pants sitting on folding chairs in the rec room. There was an adjoining laundry room where a woman with curlers in her hair did her wash. Oh, she was just like, Jesus Christ. Oh, you can only do white loads tonight. The opening act was a juggler, Barnaby. Hello. And then Anita burst onto the stage and she was like,
Starting point is 01:00:22 who, uh, so who am I open for tonight? Have you heard of Anita Bryant? Who? Anita Bryant, she's the orange juice lady who was. Oh, I love orange juice. I juggle oranges. Oh, do not let her see. Hi, what are those? I juggle oranges.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Oh, God. Nobody's sold more orange. Oh, God, what? Oh, no. A juggler. Did you hear what I said after that? No. After the juggler, Anita burst onto the stage in a shimmering gown.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Oh my God. She is wearing a shimmering gown at a mobile home park where a lady is doing laundry with curls in her hair. To the laundry room off to the left. Ladies and gentlemen, how great was Barnaby? I can't believe he got all four of those going sort of. That night, a reporter asked Anita about Bob Koonst, the gay actress from Miami. Anita about Bob Koonst, the gay actist from Miami. Anita was shocked, quote, I have to be honest, this disturbs me. Why did you talk to Bob Koonst?
Starting point is 01:01:32 Are you going to give him equal time? How do I know there isn't a group of militant gays in Orlando that will pressure your newspaper to tell lies, to go against me? I don't wanna judge this up. I really don't want to dredge this up. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. You don't want to dredge this. This is your legacy. She made this. This is you. Right. You don't get to turn it off after you open the can is like yeah, you started this yeah
Starting point is 01:02:07 this is it and Gareth then she goes on to tell the reporter nobody is born gay and That AIDS meant God is proving her right that the gay lifestyle is a death style So did Reagan hire her for the cabinet? Boy, oh boy, that's quite a line to just have in your back pocket. In 1988, Anita Bryant is inducted into the Florida Citrus Hall of Fame. Dave, I'm going to just stop everything for a minute so we can just... Dave, what is in the name of...
Starting point is 01:02:57 Oh my God, what the fuck are you even talking about? The Florida Citrus? It is. I uh, oh man, I could have got my whole life without knowing that the Florida Citrus all fame existed and been fine. The Florida Citrus, What the fuck? I would not just let anybody in here. Oh, we are. Oh. I'm looking at it right now. Florida citrus Hall of Fame. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:03:38 It's a you can donate. There's supporters. There's a bunch of inducted Ben Adams, Dudley Warren Adams, Benjamin Albrighton. Oh, my God. Just Sam Banks. Yeah, I am seeing them. I'm really great here.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Anita Bryant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She is the only one. I like that they're standing by that one. She's the only one you would recognize. Also, she might be Geareth.
Starting point is 01:04:08 She might be the only woman. As we scroll through, it is pretty safe to say that another one. Nancy Gernet, Nancy Gernet Hardy made it. But there's like awful. There's like a hundred dudes and like a couple of ladies. It's and you're not going to believe this. Pretty much all white guys. Oh, dare we say all white guys? Oh, my God, it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:04:40 All this. I don't know. It's all white guys. It's all white guys. It's are you looking at cooked. It's all white guys. It's all white guys. Are you looking at it too? Yes. It's all white men, except for her. And I don't even see the second woman. Oh, there she is.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Lena Smithers Hughes. Yeah. Yeah. It's a real thing. She looks like a real treat too, by the way. I gotta recommend, just stop the podcast. Go to florida citrus Hall of Fame and look at John F. Nelson if you're worried about the uh I mean oh these guys it's it's like it's each one of them looks like
Starting point is 01:05:17 they were behind the Kennedy assassination I have my favorite Bert Edward Roper. Yeah, I know. So I totally know Roper Roper. It's tremendous. I really recommend you stop. I'm also a Norman Todd fan. Yeah. So good. Oh, Christ.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Sure. Heard of all. In 1989, she was in Michael Moore's documentary, Roger and Me, because the Flint Chamber of Commerce brought her to town to help revitalize the economy and raise people's spirits. Oh. spirits. She told the unemployed in Flint that today is a new day and invited them to quote, be thankful for the sunshine. And then she quoted Margaret Thatcher saying, cheer up America. Hey, yeah, Christ. Oh, what are we? What really?
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah. What is our cultural identity? It is absolute horse crap. She gets married again in 1990 to ex NASA test crewman, Charlie Dry. Well, I bet he's going to get used to that last name. And they moved to Eureka Springs, Arkansas, where she opens the Anita Bryant show. It's six days a week. It's a mix of gospel, Broadway and country music.
Starting point is 01:07:04 So there's these towns like Branson and Erika Springs. They're like, we're retired, like you're not famous anymore, but you had a career. So they, they just like these theater towns and all these people go to shows. So it's six days a week. So at six days a week, the first year is successful, and then she moves to a larger 1000 seat theater. And her big plan is to open a big Anita Bryant complex with the museum. There's a religion. You're not frozen, you're just shocked.
Starting point is 01:07:43 No, I'm just like, I'm just totally like like literally hanging on every word at this point, I think. There's a, there's some religious people in Eureka Springs, but in 1994, People magazine named it the gay capital of the Ozarks. Oh, wow. Now there's, I mean, come on, there's no way there isn't somebody on staff at People Magazine who is like, let's fuck with Anita Bryant. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For everywhere she goes. That's not an accident. I mean, it's crazy because it leads the country in gay bars. What? Anita tells the AP that Branson had tried to lure her away, but quote, I like the life here and more importantly, God has called me to Arkansas.
Starting point is 01:08:33 No, he didn't. No, he didn't because the next year she is performing in Branson. Sorry. God just was talking about last year. Now go to Branson. But she does a contract with the Eureka Springs Theatre. So she agrees to share payments from the Branson shows with the theater owners in Eureka Springs.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Then she doesn't do that. the theater owners in Eureka Springs. Then she doesn't do that. She also refuses to return clothes and costumes, the theater own that was worth over $10,000. So the owners sue her. Anita writes a new book, a new day. She goes on talk shows like CBS This Morning and Maury Povich. Why are they still having her?
Starting point is 01:09:25 I don't know. Maybe because they think she's controversial and people will watch. Yeah, but even like orange, oranges fired her. How the fuck you still getting on like the Today Show? Now, she really thinks that if people understand that she loves gay people and only hates the sin of the gay act that nobody would be mad at her. I'm a little confused as to what, like, it's such a very, it's, it's, I support gay people until they are gay.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Yeah, I mean, this is exactly what the guy at our town does, Jordan Henry, who is, you know, our Anita Bryant. Yeah, right. That's exactly what he says. I love trans people, but also I don't want them anywhere. They can't have a life. So after a few seasons in Branson, Anita files for bankruptcy. To Miracle.
Starting point is 01:10:30 In 1998, the Miami-Dade County Commission in a seven to six vote banned discrimination based on sexual orientation. A repeal drive did not get enough signatures. So 20 years later, it took, so for 20 years, because of Anita Bryant, gay people getting fired evicted from their houses and other 20 years of damage. Yeah. So Anita and Charlie move to Tennessee now. I can't remember the name of the town, but it's the same thing. It's in Tennessee, right? It's like a little theaterish town. They buy the music mansion theater.
Starting point is 01:11:18 But as soon as Anita takes over, the crowds vanish. It's a miracle. Uh, she sang songs in the fifties and sixties and then she would preach. That was the show. Oh, Christ. Can't believe people didn't want to go to that. Yeah, what I'm so surprised people weren't into this. On the best nights, the theater is 25% full. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Some nights, the manager would have employees sit in the audience to boost the cast morale. No. I'd be like, I will not. It's a two hour variety show. Oh, yai. So when the 60 employees would get their paycheck, which didn't always happen, they would rush to the bank to cash them before they bounced.
Starting point is 01:12:08 So they're probably all trying to get ahead of each other because someone down the chain is not going to be enough money for all of them. Yeah. I need to and Charlie promised them for months that God would bring in new invest investors. For sure. Because that's what God does. That's yeah, it's a really weird role. But yeah, it seems like he's doing a bunch of, yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:27 but he's also like a business guy. Yeah, he's part banker. Yeah, without question. Workers start to have their cars repossessed and they're being evicted. Some start stealing candy and popcorn from concessions. And X manager of the theater has his credit ruined because when he worked there, he had signed for deliveries. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:50 You are in a bad spot when you consider free popcorn theft. Popcorn is the cheapest shit in the world. Meanwhile, Anita and Charlie are leasing a $350,000 home in a gated community and the rent is always paid on time. Must pay the hash. Some male dancers in her show are gay and they just mock Anita behind her back. Yeah. In August 2000, an Irish dance troupe
Starting point is 01:13:27 performs at the theater while Anita's on tour. And Charlie refuses to pay them. And that leaves them stranded. So locals donate food, and a hotel puts them up for free and then they raise money So they can have enough money to travel back to Ireland I mean like how much hypocrisy are you after? Church groups who had paid in advance to see Anita's show would sometimes arrive to an empty locked theater.
Starting point is 01:14:11 So other theaters would give them free tickets so that it would help the town's reputation from being destroyed. Wow. So the theater closes in 2000. In December 2001, they filed for bankruptcy, but that is dismissed because you need to still be operating when you file for chapter 11. Okay. So she can't get rid of her debts.
Starting point is 01:14:36 So Anita owes thousands in taxes and wages. Charlie tells the press he didn't need a plan to make good on all their debts by buying back the music mansion and making it part of a Christian conference center with a new Marriott. Sorry, what's that? Where's the gym? What's that? What is that? What is that? A vote is held in Miami-Dade County in 2002, and the human right ordinance was affirmed with a 56% vote in favor. Pretty small margin. I was just gonna say, still a little too tight, but okay. Yeah, way too tight, but yeah. Anita moves back to Oklahoma and gives up show business for good. She now says she volunteers for charity and runs.
Starting point is 01:15:38 By the way, show business gave up on her. Yeah, you were performing at mobile home parks. Yeah, and that was when you were on an actual comeback. She runs Anita Bryant Ministries International. In 2005, she was honored by Barnsdale, her birthplace. A street was named Anita Bryant Avenue. a street was named Anita Bryant Avenue. In 2008, a circuit court in Miami ruled the Anita Bryant inspired ban on adoption by gay people unconstitutional. That took a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Bob Green died in 2002 at 80 years old from heart and kidney problems. The Miami Herald Steve Rothes wrote, quote, for more than 30 years, Mr. Green lived quietly, alone and resentful. Good. Good. Right. Good. Yeah. Recently, Anita's granddaughter, Sarah Green, came out to Anita as bisexual. She was 21. And Anita told Sarah that homosexuality is a delusion invented by the devil, and that
Starting point is 01:16:59 she should focus on loving God because that would make her realize she's straight. Sarah later told the one-year podcast quote, it's very hard to argue with someone who thinks that an integral part of your identity is just an evil delusion. She wants a relationship with a person who doesn't exist because I'm not the person she wants me to be. Sarah got engaged in 2021 and wasn't sure if she would invite her grandmother, Anita, to the ceremony. So Anita Bryant is still alive. Damn it. Man, she.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I think she's like 80 years old. Let's see, she's 83. It's just so... It's just so fucking crazy. Again, this idea that this country promotes freedom on the level that it does, and then movements like this fester for so long and cause so much damage. You know, it is. It's just like we don't... we really don't... like she... all this shit that you profess, the love and the, but it's not for everyone.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's just the limitations on the way that these edicts are supposed to, what these values are supposed to be and what, it's just remarkable. Yeah, the hypocrisy is off the charts, but at the end of the day, they just want what they want and they don't want anybody to do anything that they don't want. And that's all they are. They always become the victim. As well as they always want the fucking money. I mean, they want the fucking money.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And I think about that when I did the Timothy Leary story. It was like, he was so about, this is going to change the world. But when it kind of fell apart, he kind of just was a guy who wanted money. He started doing weird shows and all. And so it is just like, you say all these big, bold things and you have this crusade or whatever. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:19:24 you're just trying to make fucking money. They just want money. Yeah. You know, they want to control a lifestyle again for some bizarre reason. Part of it is scripture, but part of it is also clearly that she was extremely unhappy,
Starting point is 01:19:40 kept saying she was going to take her own life and he was going to take his life, but heterosexual marriages are the best, but she doesn't know what a blow job is they end up getting divorced She's doing shows and mobile home part like You ain't shit Just leave people the fuck alone and and seriously instead of freedom this country should be proud of how we mind our own business Yeah, well, I mean, thank God she like it all fell apart for her. That's just tremendous.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Yeah, as well as like, you know, she's alive just, yeah. Just keeping rich and being an asshole. Yeah, just living a fucking, she basically lives at Hogwarts at this point Sources well first Anne Momoney did the research Sources main sources Anita Bryant mine eyes have seen the glory I'm so sorry that Anna to read that Cliff jar Anita Bryant startling reversal and a lot of articles in the Miami Herald. Other sources, Ken Kelly, the Playbury Interview with Anita Bryant, Chris Bernard, Taking the Gay Cure, a bunch of Anita and Bob books.
Starting point is 01:21:00 The AP homosexual's mother, Susanita Bryant for his murder, a censor examiner, the Globe and Mail, the Tampa Bay Times, the Orlando Senate, Florida Magazine, and a CBS documentary called The Homosexuals. The Miami Herald, but sometimes you got to do that to goose the excitement, I guess. The one-year podcast Anita Brad's War on gay rights. Yeah. I mean, I just, you know, it.
Starting point is 01:22:13 This really is like an American story. This these are these are the. Yeah. You know. And again, we're going through this right now. This is the cloud. This is what they did. This is the exact shit they did to black people. This is the exact same shit they did to Chinese people.
Starting point is 01:22:36 This is the exact same shit that they did to gay people. And now they're doing it to trans people. It's the exact same thing. Yeah. It's the exact same thing. Yeah, you just... Yeah, it's just it is truly insane what we fixate on and what we don't fix. It's just crazy. I mean, they're literally saying the same thing that you know, trans...
Starting point is 01:22:59 Yeah. ...that trans people are going after our kids. It's the same fucking kids. Going after kids, like they are trying to indoctrinate some sort of weird army. For what purpose we have yet to really understand. Just their strength in numbers, there's, but what is it?
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah. I mean, yeah, the constant fear mongering of all this shit that isn't happening while the terrible things that are. But Steve Bannon said in 2021, the way to take over the country is through the school. So a lot of this is, you know, it's astroturfed, it's Steve Bannon and his other right-wing assholes using these religious people to gain control and upset people and take over. It's just remarkable when, you know, the, yeah, just the amount of hate that goes and spreading this kind
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