The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 621 - Chris Rufo and Glendale Hank

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

Comedians Gareth Reynolds and Dave Anthony examine right wing monster Chris Rufo and his effect on Dave's school district, Glendale United School District. Staring The Hank.  Tour Dates Redbubble Mer...ch Sources   Factor - code TPT50

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Dullip is brought to you by Factor. Head to factormeals.com slash TPT50 and use code TPT50 to get 50% off. That's code TPT50 at factormeals.com slash TPT50 to get 50% off. You're listening to The Dullip on the all thingy comedy network. This is an American History Podcast, or each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American History. Come on, we're coming up on that decade.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Everyone knows the deal. Hey everybody, it's Gareth from the dollop. I'm the guy who doesn't know what's gonna happen. That role is mine. I come into this thing cold, and Professor Dave, he's ready to teach, but I'm gonna be a little bit of a class clown. So look out.
Starting point is 00:00:53 If you love accents and learning, the Dallup might be the podcast for you. And we'll be right back after some words from our sponsor. We don't have, it's later, we're gonna do it later. This is bad. We tried and it was really a failure because we're not working together. Are we? That was a really man to work. It was a man running wild. That actually a man running wild a man running wild. That actually, a man running wild is the perfect prelude to our episode.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Oh wait, a man gone wild? A man gone wild. I would say that is 60% of our episodes. August 26th, 1984. I. You're a Lord, J-Town. 26th 1984. You're a Lord J-Town. I love when they're like that, because I'm gonna know this man,
Starting point is 00:01:54 and I'm excited, right? Gareth, I am in this one. What? I'm in this one. What do you mean? This is the last episode. I come in contact with the man gone wild. Chris Rufo was born in Sacramento, California and raised Roman Catholic in an Italian speaking home. Man. Okay. We could call this Anita Bryant Three.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It's very tangentially associated with our last two episodes. Right, okay. Chris's father, an immigrant, was involved in democratic politics. A high school teacher said Chris was very smart but arrogant. Smirrigant. His AP History teacher quote, he completely tuned me out, sat there and read a book.
Starting point is 00:02:50 He was just dismissive of everything I had to say. And then he'd ace the tests. Now, let me point out a couple differences and similarities between me and him. Sure, sure. Totally tuning out. Yes. Reading a book while tuning out. No. Right. Dismissing most of what they said. Yes. Yes. Acing the test. No. No. No. So sounds really totally
Starting point is 00:03:15 different. There's similarities and differences. Oh, here's a similar thing. And then I graduated in 2002 into Georgetown. Yeah, same, same, same, same, same. So at this point, Chris Rufo is a liberal. He's marching against the Iraq war, but then he starts to dislike elite liberals. He gets a degree in foreign service, which is servicing foreigners. Now I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I did that in France. People like that's not what it is. You know what they call the gold and shower in France, Dave? A wee wee. You are, there are people listening who have never heard this podcast and they're turning it off That's my and that's what turns me on So after that he gets a gig as a cameraman for a documentary filmmaker He didn't really know what he was doing that much. It sounds like he just kind of fudged it
Starting point is 00:04:22 Okay They don't last that long together. They part ways and the filmmaker said Rufo kept the equipment. Is that, was he, because in my experience, you're allowed to go home with the camera guy's gear. So I, not a lot of people do that job. I actually don't think that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Is that right? I think here, I, every acting gig I've ever done, I leave with a bunch of stuff. I drove a crane home once. Okay, so they part ways. Okay. Rufo keeps the equipment. He starts making his own docs.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Great, great films like Roughing at Mongolia. Roughing at Mongolia is one of... It's very good. I mean, top. Top. Top. Yeah. What an Oscar did it not?
Starting point is 00:05:09 It did not, but he went to the Oscars and went home with someone's. He starts making docs for PBS. And in 2015, he makes a doc on poverty based on three US cities. And they get the funding from right wing foundations. I have a feeling his politics are going to change further. Well, but the doc said that poverty is due to a lack of religion and two parent families
Starting point is 00:05:40 splitting up, which all the all the studies say that. It's true. Yeah. Absolutely. Rufo starts the documentary as a libertarian and at the end he's a conservative. Now do you think that is funding based or is that based on just learning some things that led him in that direction. I mean, look, when you're making Ruffing It Mongolia, you are living in a shoebox or a van.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But when you're making a doc for right wing document or for right wing foundations, you're living in a three bedroom apartment with a butler. Okay, so he's now roofing it instead of roughing it. His wife worked for Microsoft, and so they moved to Seattle. And while he's there, he starts making connections with the right-wingers. He lands a fellowship with the Claremont Institute. This leads to a role at the Discovery Institute, which is a think tank that just loves, is
Starting point is 00:06:44 against evolution, loves the other stuff. Any good think tanks? That's a good question. I like the People's Policy Project, by the way. They're a small outfit. So he starts writing for the City Journal, which is published by the right-wing Manhattan Institute. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:08 They did the Atom Bomb, didn't they? Yeah, those are the guys. It's the Oppenheimer. In Seattle. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's the... Yeah, Oppenheimer's still there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's crazy to think about. Yeah, he's fun though. He doesn't really work that much. He's just there to walk around and talk to people. I love how he moved on so quickly. I just think that's fantastic. The fact that he's just kind of put that whole thing to bed and just moved on. Yeah. Big Seahawks fan. Oh, he loves the Seahawks. He gets a fellowship with the Heritage Foundation, which if you don't know what that is, it's good. Well, if you've seen the Lord of the Rings, it's Mordor. They see him as a great storyteller, Rufo, quote,
Starting point is 00:07:54 I felt like I had the freedom to think for the first time as an adult. Oh, I can finally think. Fucking idiot. Yeah, that is a strange way of putting it. Right? Yeah, what you couldn't think before. You couldn't, because you'd always think, but will people support what you think? Well, that's the difference. But to be like, I'm finally, hey fellas, I'm thinking. So now he starts going after Seattle's policies and it's quote,
Starting point is 00:08:25 ruinous compassion for the homeless. It's so strange to me how the religious have found this compassion loophole. Like Jesus, right? Wasn't he like feed and clothes and all that stuff, but they've taken that and gone in the direction of. No, you're wrong. Right? Wasn't he like, feed and clothes and all that stuff? But they've taken that and gone in the direction of... No, you're wrong. Jesus was... He said, ruin his compassion all the time. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It was one of his catchphrases. Right. Right. Right. It's wild. I hope he does come back. They would... If Jesus came back, they would absolutely hate him. I ask. So he runs for city council, but then he drops out claiming harassment. He's being harassed. So he bails. He says there's social media. Well, it's all that thinking he's doing. Yeah. Well, it's you're running for city council. It's it's all about her. People just going to yell at you like. He says social media post labeled them as a fascist and I said his wife was
Starting point is 00:09:30 threatened with sexual assault. Podcast or Katie Herzog believes Rufo made it up to quote, make himself look like a victim of crazy leftists. Well, that's the first time that's happened. Yeah. The reason I think Katie might say that is because Rufo's the first time that's happened. Yeah, the reason I think Katie might say that is because Rufo's whole thing is he's a he's a I would call him a bullshit cannon. Dave, I'll allow me to please. So Tucker Carlson has Chris Rufo on his show to discuss lawless Seattle when the
Starting point is 00:10:08 Black Lives Matter protests broke out. Remember Seattle had that like area that the people took over and cops were allowed in and so cop freeze down. Of course Rufo Blames, right, critical race theory. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Correct. As you should. Yep. Yeah, I mean, that's, you see the connection. Yes, I always have, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So, Chris described CRT as race-centered Marxist history pushed by elites to create a myth of the innate racism of the US. I suffer from Chris Rufo theory. That's my strategy. It's where you should just stop thinking because it seems like what's coming out is not great. I love that anybody denies that there's innate racism in America. Well, I did. And you guys see the slavery thing?
Starting point is 00:11:05 I've always found it to be kind of just the one race that's thinking that. Is that crazy? It is interesting. That is definitely. It's excuse white. It's excuse white. So.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Imagine having this country's history. And being like there's no other way. And trying to skirt it. OK, CRT is actually an academic and legal framework that examines how racism is embedded in institutions and laws. So Rufo takes out of context examples of CRT which isn't taught in schools
Starting point is 00:11:52 and He takes it from elementary school curriculum. So out of context from elementary school curriculum, which doesn't teach CRT It's not taught in K-12 schools anywhere. It's not, that's not a thing. So he lies and says in Oregon School District, curriculum states whites are born racist. This is not remotely true. Right. Is that an issue for the fact? All it does is it tells the teachers to examine their own possible races, like look deeper.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Right. Which again? Enough I think we all have and it's fine. Thank you. It's working great. That's why we solved it So his hysterical interpretation gets him on News Mac and it's pushed by please some respect Andy, you know Okay, Jesus Christ and it's pushed by Andy Nyo. Okay, Jesus Christ. All the boys are coming together. Well, that's, shall I call him the third rail?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. Rufo named specific educators and scholars. He points people out out he's naming people uh... word he says doing the c r t thing uh... which leads obviously to harassment of those people and again this is not grounded in reality you know what he did he says that there's this uh... professor who wants to
Starting point is 00:13:22 seize land for redistribution along racial lines. And the professor just starts getting hate mail and then she's like, what's happening? And then she figures it out. She says, quote, I've never said such a thing. It's not what I'm what he's literally making stuff up. He'll tell you to find a quote. Any isolated quote he can use will be like, that's the one. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:47 From the intelligence or quote, he takes CRT as a concept, strips it of all meaning and repurposes it as a catch-all for white grievances. So as I would call it, anti CRT. It's also like you already can tell that it's in the one of those fucking things where you know these People just go where the heat is. He's just going where they he's like this is the heat. This is where my action is He's actually making the heat so he's all the CRT stuff, you know now. This is starting it But again, it but it's motivated by you're getting a little bit of a spotlight by doing this.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So you it's like that's why that's how Brexit happened. Yes. It's just idiots who are like, oh, fatties spotlight. Well, actually, Brexit was good. I do. I'm saying, yeah, it was really great. It was really. I mean, just look at the. It's yeah, it's flourishing. You know, Brexit's good because you can get a cameo
Starting point is 00:14:46 from Nigel Farage for $65. So that's how you know Brexit worked. Like a lot of people are like, give me evidence. I'm like, right there, boom. Brexit didn't work, but come on. Yeah. So Rufo's Scarebongering launches him into the conservative spotlight. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He says his anti-CRT campaign was an amazing achievement that took CRT from obscure into a catalyst for conservative rage. He's saying this in a... He's talking negative, right? No. Chris Rufo... Oh, he's saying this in a... This he's he's he's talking negative, right? No, Chris Rufo. Oh, he's everything he does. He says what he's going to do It is evil and crazy and then he does it He's like the Babe Ruth of bullshit Quote I've unlocked a new terrain in the culture war.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Rufo formed the Stop CRT legal coalition. That is a crazy statement. That is such a crazy thing. Like that's kind of given the game away a little bit, right? Because you'd think that you would frame it more as I've unlocked a terrible systemic issue that is taking, but he's like, like bragging about a culture issue is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah, it's really, really nuts. Hey, I found a useless thing we can argue about endlessly. He forms the stop CRT legal coalition. Part of that legal coalition is the Piv Torak law firm of Los Angeles. I love them. So in the summer of 2021, in the Glendale Unified School District in Glendale, California, the school district of one Finnegan Anthony, whose parent is Dave Anthony. This is a very meta episode.
Starting point is 00:16:59 You. This guy pops up in our online school board meeting But he is not discussing What all of us are Which is keeping students safe keeping teachers safe and online learning doesn't sound very cultural this guy This guy suddenly comes in and he is talking about CRT, and we don't know what's happening. I expect considerable time reviewing the social justice standards, and today I would simply like to quote passages that are taken directly from the latest edition of Teaching Tolerance
Starting point is 00:17:41 Magazine. This is a teacher resource that Glendale Unified has officially sanctioned. The term white supremacy, for example, appears 60 times in this edition alone. Additionally, there are multiple explicit calls for teachers to adopt a lens of critical race theory. The following are direct quotes. We are here to create better engaged citizens and humans of the world. It's a lot about interrogating and deconstructing the white Eurocentric norm of the classroom and expectations of education That's what professional development is based on that and building on background knowledge about critical race theory intersectionality and anti-racist theories Hey, honey, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm reading this thing and counting every time it says white supremacy. Cause I'm normal. I just can't even imagine like getting up and saying that. Weirdo. Okay, so I think the idea, like you're saying, it's like a record scratch moment when this dude stands up and just starts saying that shit but it's also like the first time you do stand up you know you're just like gonna bomb like he must know he's going out there like he I mean the shit he's saying is obviously just very
Starting point is 00:18:57 bullshit he basically admitted that it's bullshit so he's just going out there like saying bullshit you think he believes? I think he believes it. I we will go through this. I okay. I think he believes it. I think he I think he's not that bright. Okay. Yeah. Take that into account as I go through this that he might not be that smart. Well, I've seen I know who this guy is. And it's you've seen him. Yeah, and it's never come across as like, bright mentally, but just like bright as in like, Jesus Christ, get away, like someone puts a flashlight in your eyeballs and you're like, stop.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I've been telling parents recently, go look at his videos and every single parent that I tell that to, they go look at his videos and they go, oh my God, I can't believe how dumb that was. Every single one. And how annoying and, I can't just like upsetting. He is to see after two meetings. I realized this guy wants to be a famous right wing personality. But he's not savvy enough for that. So what a sweet spot. Yeah, he really he like Chris Ruffo is a genius of mini but media manipulation. This guy is the opposite, right?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Seeing how he wants fame, okay, because I think anybody outside of our district should not talk about him Within our district we can talk about nobody else should talk about this guy Henceforth, we will call him the Hank Okay, so I'm good. Sure So the Hanks from Indiana, from what I could tell his grandfather was a Methodist reverend, but the Hank is a Mormon.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He said he grew up feeling ideologically different. So the Hanks never had that stank. Okay, I don't know. What? It's, Take my hand. I don't know. It's... Take my hand. I don't know. So he says he grows up feeling ideologically different.
Starting point is 00:20:53 There's only three other Mormons in his high school. He has a great child that he says. He goes, water skiing. Always has had a job, he said, since he was 13. He worked at McDonald's and painting and golf courses and just tons of places. During a recent interview, the Hank said, quote, it gave me a perspective of what it is to be a working class, salt of the earth, normal person without much help from your parents or some fund somewhere. Shots fired.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Well, you just described me and no. Yeah. This is what he wants. He wants to be like, I'm the normal one. You're not. It's like any politician when they're basically running on the campaign of like, I'm just like you. And it and it's like no the fuck you aren't no No So that's yeah, that's what he's doing here
Starting point is 00:21:53 From so from this he takes away an anti government Ideology you don't need the government. He's also an Eagle Scout So he goes to the University of Michigan and he gets a degree in music. He also studied English literature. Now I'm gonna read something from a student with the same name as the Hank who was at Michigan University at the exact same time. This is in the Michigan, Michigan Daily, the university paper. There are three pieces written by this name, the Hank, in October 2004.
Starting point is 00:22:29 The first one is titled On Trust, and the second one is called Honey Suckle. It's from the perspective of a boy during a typical summer vacation. And it's just having an enjoyable with his friend summer vacation and then a strange man moves into the neighborhood Now the pros is very flowery and sort of wildly detailed Sure, and then he goes into how the strange man sexually assaulted him under a honey suckle bush Jesus Christ I'm never gonna say that didn't happen I would never say that about anybody who... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But what I am gonna say is I showed this to two psychologists who were experienced with clients dealing with sexual assault and both had the same reaction and that was, yeah, no, that's not how people write about this. The takeaway by the two psychologists was whatever happened created confusion and he's been putting memories on top of it and detailing them. It's written, the reason that they both said it's not realistic for someone who was assaulted was that there's a lot of... it's like titillating, it's like the way it's written is like almost... kind of...
Starting point is 00:23:51 okay. quote, the legs neared the bush and as they came into my vision I was shocked to see the faded overalls of Mr. McCormack hanging over his old work boots. Fear began to swell inside my throat when he stopped and began to crouch to his knees. I moved swiftly away from him and slamming into the outside of the wall of his house. I began to move upward against it.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So it's not, it's very... It's a bit, yeah, it's a little Diane Steely. Right? So I don't know what happened. I just know this is really fucking weird. Why would the Hank write a thing that was... What is the upside to writing this? I don't know. I mean... I think he's working through some shit.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Okay. I would question... Vity might have some confusion about, and I think that he's dealing with that in strange ways. So you might suggest, you're sort of soft suggesting that a man who was raised to believe that God buried three golden plates that nobody could ever see might have an issue with truth to himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Interesting. And then there's the honeysuckle part which he was really over focused on the honeysuckle and how it smelled and all this other things. Anyway, so whatever, whatever that is, we don't know what it is. Yeah. There's nothing definitive that we can say, but... Could be real.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Could be real. I think all we can take away from it is, boy, that's fucking weird. Yeah. The way it's presented and the way it's all done. Yeah. And psychologists are like, eh.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Okay. Okay, so after Michigan, he goes and gets a master's at music from the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Hey. He hits him. Yeah, terrible, terrible place. Badgers, let's go. Terrible place.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Badgers, coming on State April 4th, 3rd. At some point, he marries Elise, who is also a musician. She plays the flute. Now she is very good. She goes to Michigan and then to the Manhattan School of Music, and then she joins the LA Philharmonic in 2012 as second flute. So she's out here now. They're out here now. I mean, she's doing well.
Starting point is 00:26:28 She's doing great. In 2015, in LA, Hank started working as a composer at No Relations Studios, which makes original music content for giants like The Guardian UK, Kodak, and Tillamook Cheese. I don't know if people have heard Tillamook Cheese's last single, but it's really good. I love what Tillamook's doing. Have you heard Tillamook's new album? What is that spread the music spread the cheese? Yep, it's great. You know Tillamook's been working in singles for a long time Sometimes they just yeah, don't
Starting point is 00:27:22 Okay, don't even mm-hmm. Okay The Hank quote the medium is the message in that world the quality of the work is paramount Okay After three years he gives up on music and decides to get a master's degree in Landscape architecture from Cal Poly Pomona. Nice. I guess working with the cheese music isn't as fulfilling as you would think. I don't know. Have you ever heard the new Black Cheese album? I do and I actually really enjoy it. Oh, it's not? I like it.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah, okay, good. Yeah. It's sharp. Oh, fucking yeah. Oh yeah, okay, good, yeah. It's sharp. Oh, fucking yeah. You wanna tell me? Yeah, nice. Oh, buddy.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So, remember landscape architecture is what I said? Remember the Honey Suckle Bush? Yeah. Working it out, working it out. He still works at night for no reason, studios, through school, and I assume with companies like Farmbox, who no relations worked with, came up with some great tunes for
Starting point is 00:28:38 what's in the box, oh my God, it's an eggplant. That's a farmer's hand. It's an eggplant that's a farmer's hand At Cal Poly he reads he has to study or read educational theory Quote I was very shocked at what I was reading. It was by an academic named Apollo theory the Hank said He was one of the this thing he read was one of the most influential pieces of literature and it is causing many issues today in American schools. And Fieri was a Marxist.
Starting point is 00:29:12 So the Hank gets his, gets a landscape architecture internship with the city of Los Angeles. He's still working at No Relation until 2020. He also starts getting work doing sound design for movie trailers, or as he calls it on his resume, whoosh, bang. I don't understand. Whoosh, bang, you know, movie trailers. Don't say it again.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You get it. It's great. It's fun. It's fun. I'm not sure. It's fun. I've not had fun for a while. It's who. It's fun. It's fun. I'm not sure. It's fun. I've not had fun for a while. It's woosh, bang.
Starting point is 00:29:49 If you say it again, I will find you. So then he's hired on officially as a landscape architecture associate for the city of Los Angeles. He checks plans in his permitting. Now, he and his wife live in Highland Park. Some of this is murky. Some of this is just the narrative. People say different things about where
Starting point is 00:30:12 he lived and where he didn't. But he's not in Glen Hill. So Highland Park, which is part of the LA school district, heavily Latino, Hank is not. The closest non-LEUSD district is Glen Nealeuphold School District. So they have a kid and the timing here, like I said, a little off, but maybe there's a second one here on the way. And the pandemic hits. Anti-mask groups pop up on Facebook, of parents, right?
Starting point is 00:30:50 The I... I'm in a pro mask Facebook group. There's a big divide between us, obviously. At the same time, Chris Rufo is still doing his CRT thing. Nice. In January, 2021, Rufo tweets, quote, we have successfully frozen their brand, critical race theory, into the public conversation
Starting point is 00:31:14 and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic. As we put all of the various cultural insanities under the brand category, the goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think CRT. I'm quite intentionally redefining what CRT means. It's just why it's so... Like, who puts the ingredients on the front? He always does. It's just like crazy to like I
Starting point is 00:31:49 Appreciate the transparency. It makes it very simple. Oh, okay It's like what Bannon did Bannon was like it's very Oh no in 20 May 2021 Steve Bannon said on his podcast His podcast which is probably called yay Hitler or something. It's called a Bannon on Quote the path to save the nation is very simple. It's going to go through the school boards He highlights CRT. They've been coming for that has been there. I mean sort of to what you were saying about the Anita Bryant stuff. Like it's... It's the same.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah. It's that's, that's the grid. That exact month that Steve Bannon says that, the Hank shows up at his first online GUSD board meeting, which as I said, I am on. And it's jarring because we're discussing COVID and safety and all the stuff. And then there's this guy talking about CRT that makes no sense. Why people been through enough? It's clear he has no idea what Marxism is.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's the best. That's the, that I think that's becoming my fetish. What people are defining things like, when they mis-applied fascism or whatever, it's just, it is delicious. It's tantalizing. My nipples get hard. They call Biden a communist.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You're like, I can't even, I don't know. Jesus, you do all these leftism. You're like, stop, don't. That commie Nancy Pelosi, you're like, I don't know what's happening. Fuck, give me it. My brain hurts. You've ruined two worlds.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So, essentially, this guy, the Hank, is like a walking, talking spawn of Chris Rufo. He's everything that Chris Rufo talks about in wants and pushes and this guy Chris Rufo is like openly right trying to cause chaos in public schools and here's Hank who just just moved To Glendale two months before and Like most people who do not have a child in schools He immediately joins the GUSD Committee on Culturally Responsive Education. Of course.
Starting point is 00:34:09 So our district's curriculum has gone through this long review and pilot process, and all of us parents were allowed to have a say. Everyone got to comment, everyone got to, it was a huge community process, and we came to an agreement one year before. that you would hate white people in school. Yes. And guilt them. So we catered this agreement one year before the Hank comes. It's literally a community process and everyone is happy and has agreed upon it. Enter Hank. He is a human chaos bomb.
Starting point is 00:34:50 But when I started looking at the materials, the curriculum, the frameworks that Glendale started to adopt, I kept on seeing similar things to what I had read at Cal Poly. And it's really unsettling once you understand where that ideology is coming from and what they're trying to do. And it's essentially the government has adopted a point of view where they're trying to influence the fundamental consciousness of children. And that really should be the right of the parent informed by the child's upbringing,
Starting point is 00:35:27 their values. And the government should really take a step back and respect that boundary between the privacy, the private and public life. I don't fucking understand. Have you looked around this country? Do you really want these citizens being... Like, you need the other institution. Stop fighting. Like, it's just fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's just... it's fucking nuts to like be at the point where people are just like subtly and then not subtly being like, schools need to stop. If schools aren't gonna indoctrinate in the way we want, we need to be done with schools because I'll just do it in my garage or the map. Right, so this is a guy who thinks that, you know, God should be in schools.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Oh, but you don't want, wait, what did you just say? You want God in schools, but wait, you just said you don't want, wait, what did you just say? You want God in schools, but wait, you just said you don't want to dealing with the consciousness of what? Yeah, right. Now, well, it is, it is completely like, it's no, no, we got to fear indoctrination in the wrong way, do mine.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Now, Rufo has put out a list of words that are red flags that he says means CRT is being taught. Oh, this is exciting. Some of them are whiteness. By the way. Oh, you fucking loser. You little white loo, you little white pimple. White?
Starting point is 00:37:11 Now hold on, I heard whiteness. Yeah, bitch, stop. White privilege? The level of white privilege to try to get white privilege removed. Oppressed? Well, come on, we shouldn't be saying that considering... You imagine being a teacher and being like,
Starting point is 00:37:35 and I gotta be careful here to how I've got a tiptoe around defining slavery. It was horrible internships. Yeah. Intersectionality, systemic racism, and my favorite, my favorite of all, equity. Oh my god, watch out. You know what that leads to? Oh man. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You imagine telling a white person demanding to censor the term white privilege is the whitest privilege around. Gareth, the dollop is brought to you by Factor. Factor, baby. Dave, I love Factor. What do you want me to tell you? It is basically pre-prepped home meals that they deliver to your home that you can either heat up in your oven or your microwave, and they are fricking delicious.
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Starting point is 00:40:19 Like me. Heat and eat. So, head to factormeals.com slash dol50 and use code doll 50 to get 50% off. That's code doll 50 at factormeals.com slash doll 50 to get 50% off. Okay, so learning for justice was founded in 1991 by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The SPLC was created in 1971, legally to go after white supremacists. It classifies hate groups and it promotes tolerance. Obviously that's terrible, right?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah. Feels like they're treading on my whiteness. These things really upset Hank. Yeah. He cannot believe a school district that he moved into knowing exactly what was in the curriculum because he became scared of Paulo Fieri years before had this curriculum, especially because the curriculum pretty
Starting point is 00:41:23 much matches the state curriculum. Right. It's in most public schools. Why would a school district want information from a group that fights white supremacy and teaches tolerance? That sounds crazy. What school district would want that? It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So the SPDLC provides free educational materials to teachers and they have a collection of reading lessons called Perspectives for a Diverse America which common sense org calls quote an invaluable teacher tool to help reduce prejudice and encourage tolerance in schools as well as within society as a whole. Oh, I'm getting mad. Well, Dave, it is teetering on the white privilege chat, which I don't love. How do they? That's my term.
Starting point is 00:42:14 So the Hank at the board meeting does his thing and puts the video of his comments on social media. He's posting in the anti-mass groups, and then in August he speaks again, he's more upset about Marxist indoctrination of the children at the school where he does not have a child. Other GUSD parents now realize
Starting point is 00:42:40 this isn't just happening in our school district, this is happening around the country. this isn't just happening in our school district, this is happening around the country. So the Hank puts his little board meeting speech up on YouTube. He seems to be spending a lot of time during the day attacking and harassing people who don't agree with him. In his own account, some people think he had sock puppet accounts. He creates an anti-CRT Facebook group. He claims GUSD is keeping secrets from the parents. He's now recruiting in the anti-mask, now anti-vaccine, anti-lockdown, anti-coward production groups.
Starting point is 00:43:18 He says learning for justice recommends a book to teach children how to masturbate. Have you ever masturbated? Yes. Wow. By the way, I'm not saying I had a home run on the first time, but you don't need to be taught how to masturbate. It's like walking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's gonna come to you and on you. But if you're a guy who thinks that you do need to be taught, then there's a reason why you'd go. Of course, yeah. Yeah. All these weird issues. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Like, can you imagine? Listen, if they were hitting up books on how to masturbate, you would know. Yeah. Oh, I would know. Believe me. And they do make books on how to masturbate. They're porn mags. That's what I... Yeah. Oh, I would know. Believe me. And they do make books on how to masturbate. They're porn mags. That's what I... Those are the books that taught me how to masturbate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 He says another book tells teens to write down sexual fantasy and turn turns on quote, should a public educator be talking to students about wearing strap-ons, lesbians with penises and earlobe blowjobs? Why did the board approve this? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa So an alien has taken over a man's body and just said what he like that's basically chat GBT like suggesting what it thinks porn is yeah, this is a guy who doesn't know what sex is You're low blow jobs. Yeah, that's right what Come on. That can't be real. How have you never had one that makes a neat a Bryant look like she does porn It really does they're doing a blowjobs and nostril fucking. And it's all over the place.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So he's like, why did the board approve this? Well, he didn't. They're finger-picking eyeballs. They didn't approve, the board didn't approve this. That's why they, that's why they did, he's like, why did they approve this? They didn't, Hank. I got my clip.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's total nonsense. Remember Chris Ruffo taking out a context curriculum with the stated goal of creating chaos? Well, that's what Hank is doing. Yep. And Ruffo did distribute how-to instructions. We don't know if that's what happened, but... In late September, the Hank posted a video from FairForAll.org
Starting point is 00:45:54 saying it is an alternative to GUSD's community-agreed-upon-anti-racist material. I was just saying this guy should come up with a school curriculum. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Cause I wanna, I'm, I'm, I'm, Dave, I'd like to see a school where they're not teaching each other how to masturbate and do ear lobe blow jobs with lesbian strap-ons. I'm sorry, did you say ear lobe blow jobs?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, you know when a dick gets sucked by an ear lobe. Hmm. Yeah, you know when a dick gets sucked by an ear lobe Hmm what you never been to the porn factory mr. Man? No All right, if anyone here has never seen a dick gets sucked by an ear stand up Lobe Yeah, yeah, lobe. Yeah the lobe lobe I care if it's actually worse than What you're imagining.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I don't think I'll be honest to you. It's not going to get worse than an ear-low blow job to me. No, OK, that's fair. But Fairforall.org has been funded by great people like Nazi memorabilia collector and Supreme Court Breiber, Harlan Crow. Man, it's Clarence Thomas's boy. So he wants to get rid of a decades-long program that has been created by one of the
Starting point is 00:47:16 great anti-racist organizations in American history and he wants to replace it with a curriculum funded by a Nazi memorabilia collector. Alright, first of all, I'm gonna jump in real quick. Just because you have a bunch of Nazi stuff doesn't make you a collector. Okay, that's fair. You have a mug type. Boy, that is... Man, this is honestly like... It's's starting to get it's gonna get so much
Starting point is 00:47:47 worse this is nothing this is the happy part Chris Rufo is on the board of half for all org it was started by Barry Weiss so it's just a collection of monsters fair created its own ethnic studies curriculum and sent it out free for all schools to adapt. And it was vapid nonsense, not remotely a curriculum. Sure. Is that a problem for a curriculum? A fair volunteer in Oregon. This is a guy who was part of Fair and volunteer.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Quote, Fair was basically virtue signaling for the anti-woke. It was not an organization designed to actually do anything. Sounds like they've got their tag. We're an organization designed not to do anything. They mostly just talked about stuff. They held Zoom seminars for geniuses like Hank on school parental rights. The same month that Hank posted the video from Fair,
Starting point is 00:48:52 Fair was imploding as the internally feuded. Rufo left the board when a member said he was bringing in reactionary hysteria. Soon he went on Megyn Kelly's podcast to talk shit about fair. That doesn't seem fair. Today fair is gone. Wow. That's a no. That sucks. So Hank is now fully focused on the angry anti mask anti backscratt. He starts having his posts translated into Russian and Armenian to target immigrants who don't speak or read English. Right?
Starting point is 00:49:30 Easier to manipulate because you're just, you're one of the lone voices they're hearing. He then tells people to remove their students from GUSD and push them into homeschooling or private religious schools. The idea that you are gonna... Unvetted homeschooling as your solution doesn't seem well thought out to me. Yeah. So he begins holding weekly Zoom meetings for the people who are following him, you know, creating like organizing and what they're going to do. Online, he posts quote, this is not about teaching accurate history. This is about teaching through a liberal or Marxist lens. Okay, buddy, champ, chief, liberal and Marxism could not be more disparate ideas they are not even really crazy what are you talking about it's I know it's like termicide it's just so
Starting point is 00:50:34 like my brain breaks how in the year 2024 do you not fucking know the difference between liberalism and Marxism because Because you don't really need to. Yeah. Because it's so easy to just conflate them and be like, see? And people are like, that's bad. It's like, dude, please do not insult my Marxism with that. He now expands. Liberalism.
Starting point is 00:51:00 He now expands as a tax. He starts going after social-emotional learning, LGBTQ programs, and of course, women's studies. A lot of this is just online posting. His anti-gay and trans rhetoric starts greatly increasing. You know who else is doing exactly that? This guy named Chris Rufo. So he does a video and he goes through the Learning for Justice by the SPLC. So this is what, this is a thing that GUSD is like, you can use some of this and people all over the country use it.
Starting point is 00:51:40 It's a very good resource. And so he goes through it and he, and it's called best practices. So he keeps saying these are the best practices for teaching, which includes teachers just informing themselves. It's not just stuff for teaching. So this is, this is what he says about best practices. The best practices for serving LGBTQ students is literally two clicks away from this official GUSD training document. And I want to stress that learning for justice calls these pornographic and offensive materials
Starting point is 00:52:21 best practices. Make no mistake. Best practices means this is the best thing that learning for justice could possibly recommend on the subject. Okay, so I'm just gonna say this really quick. That's not what it fucking means! Jesus Christ, Wikipedia it! Just go to Wikipedia, you stupid asshole.
Starting point is 00:52:44 What the fuck? It is not what best practices means you dipshit you fucking animal my god Pick up a fucking book when you're talking about something learn what it fucking means Wikipedia the best practice is a method or technique that has been generally is a method or technique that has been generally accepted as superior to other known alternatives because it often produces results that are superior to those achieved by other means. Or because it has become a standard way of doing things, a standard way of doing things. Learn the fucking definitions of what you are fucking talking about. Holy shit. You don't have to.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I mean, my God, it is so stupid. My brain is dying. You're killing my brain. Dave's so mad his camera can't focus. I mean, fuck dude, you're making a video. I know. Take the care to make yourself not seem like a complete fucking idiot. Just look up the definition on Wikipedia, my bro. But that wouldn't be helpful, right?
Starting point is 00:53:59 That would hurt his dick. That would hurt the argument, Dave. Sometimes you gotta fence out facts. I don't think you've thought about that. It's a combination of him not understanding anything he is talking about and also taking it out of context. It's like a great... Honestly, a little difficult to do.
Starting point is 00:54:21 It's incredible. It's really amazing. But what do you know? You're one of those liberal Marxists. So learning for justice. You're one of those capitalist communists. That's right, I am. I'm a capitalist Marxist. Yeah. So this, the learning for justice, this resource he keeps saying is the best and is what Teaching for Tolerance tells you to use in classrooms. Now that's what he keeps saying.
Starting point is 00:54:54 He says it over and over again in his videos. Unless of course, you fucking read the second paragraph in Appendix A at the very beginning of the Learning for Justice document that you put up and link to in your video. The second paragraph is, the whole page is white. The second paragraph is highlighted- White.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Highlighted orange. So you will see it. Trump. Yeah, but nobody reads the Appendix. This is what it says. Note, this is intended as a resource and all books were chosen for their reported value in providing diverse perspectives and representation of LGBTQ characters. But teaching tolerance has not read every book in this catalog. Educators should vet any chosen books carefully before using them in the classroom.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It's not... He's saying to everybody, all his followers, these are what are, this is what GUSD is picked to beat and the actual thing he's linking to at the beginning says, take it or leave it, man. This is just a list of things we hear are good. So you really have to vet them and check it out yourself. It's becoming impossible to live in a society that continues to be motivated by private interests to ruin institutions or things that were pretty good only to break them to pitch
Starting point is 00:56:22 a version that makes the private interest more money and then just has a bunch of idiot foot soldiers out there doing the bidding because it gives them some sort of gains as well. You just, it cannot, it's at some point something has to fall apart. Here's another example of that a context from our boy. Math, including math education, is absolutely political and has been used in violent ways to subjugate or... I should say he's reading this. He's reading this from document... this is from the documents that he's saying that G.O.S.D. is using. Math, including math education, is absolutely political and has been used in violent ways to subjugate, harm, and even kill. Okay, so that's from Justice...
Starting point is 00:57:21 That's from... For Justice, he's reading it. Okay. He can't believe what he's reading. What he doesn't do is read the next fucking sentence. It's a lot of words to read. Which says, the use of data science to identify suspects or sentence people to prison has been widely criticized for bias and the legacy of
Starting point is 00:57:45 racist ideologies can be found in the use of data and mathematics today. We did an episode about this, episode 166, The Racist Record Keeping of Virginia. That is fucking math shit. It's the same fucking shit. He made it seem to parents like they are talking about algebra killing people. That's what he was doing by reading out of context. It definitely gives it a little bit. I'll be honest, I heard that I only heard his part and it was a little scary. I'm picturing, you know, prime number suspects, Murderous equations. I can't get past the fact that it's so stupid to take something out of context,
Starting point is 00:58:33 but not something more convoluted. Like, I can just look it up in the document you uploaded to show people and just read the next sentence. I can read the next sentence. It's lazy and stupid. It's lazy and stupid. It's lazy and stupid. It's a level of lazy and stupid I just did not expect. Well, let's listen.
Starting point is 00:58:50 There's no bottom. There's no bottom. So in October, the Hank publicly names publicly names for GUSD teachers, what they teach, what their schools are, because they had at a meeting disputed what he was saying, because he's talking absolute nonsense. So now he's having them targeted by his people. He says they're engaging conspiracy theories and that they're corrupt.
Starting point is 00:59:20 In January, 2022, Hank starts a super PAC. In February, he announces he's running for Glendale City Council. He then deletes all his tweets and posts made in his name, erasing his just crazy stuff. This is when we learned that the right wing across the country, since Rufo started his thing, have been filing Freedom of Information Act
Starting point is 00:59:43 public record requests on school boards across the country. Fuck. And GUSD, some come from the conservative, conservative, Mackenac, Mackenac, what is it, the Michigan Mackenac? Mackenac. Mackenac, I think, center in Michigan. It's just, in Michigan, there's like a woman in this center, this right-wing center,
Starting point is 01:00:07 asking for FOIA requests from the school board in Glendale, California. So Hank is very active with these requests as are quite a few other people. If only he pursued actual information the way they pursued the information few other people. If only he pursued actual information the way they pursued information on these people. Like they want the idea that they're after freedom of information. Well the reason the way that the parents found out about this is then they requested free of
Starting point is 01:00:40 information act request about people who had requested free of information act request about people who had requested free of information So the Hank request private text messages between school board members. Hey buddy, you're not a cop You know, you're not a discontent. You can't actually do that. It's private communication Sounds like he's weaponizing numbers Okay sounds like he's weaponizing numbers. Okay. At one point, the Hank asks for board emails with the words LGBTQ, CRT, equity, whole child, panorama, Fieri, Marx. He's just, he's doing word searches. You're low blow job. It's just, it's just word searches.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah. Dude, this is so bad that across the country schools are now diverting staff to deal with the requests. Ah, schools that have so many so much staff just not doing anything. Yeah, yeah, already. Yes, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Um, so now Hank's crew then gets these district emails and posts them on social media. And they highlight certain things and they go into a frenzy. They make false accusations against staff. Any comment in the emails about trans people leads to just, they just lose their minds. The district investigates because they have to,
Starting point is 01:02:05 and they find nothing wrong with anything that's said. It's literally just these people, they don't, it's like Anita Bryant or Phyllis Schlafly. They don't want gay people or trans people to be in the world. They want them in the closet and not out there. So anytime a teacher or a coach or an administrator is discussing how to handle this trans situation which has to be carried carefully, you know, delicately handled, they see what they're doing and you're like, right,
Starting point is 01:02:34 they're trying to figure it out. I know. It's so amazing always the level of insistence upon freedom and yet the forcing of constriction of that when you have either decided whatever the rationale is it's like well what you want it or not yeah no they don't it's like I know they don't yeah no they don't but then they they're it's like they're advertising for how much they do yeah while doing everything they can to stop them. Everything.
Starting point is 01:03:08 But the investigation reveals nothing. Around this time, Hank has to issue a public correction because in campaign literature, he said he was a landscape architect. He's not. He's an assistant. Oh. Whoops. Well.
Starting point is 01:03:23 But I'm still the Tillamook DJ. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha This is one of them. You'll see all kinds of families and I think you're the one that no one else has looked aside to show us your mind Every family's different and that's just fine God damn it! What was that? What was that? People are different? Is that what we're saying? Are we teaching our kids that people are different? It really does upset you because I think back to being a kid, it's the shit like Mr. Rogers would teach you. Like it was just like, be kind, be empathetic,
Starting point is 01:04:34 be understanding, be a good person, express love, help people, be good. And what that is really saying is just like, it's just like, look, this is normal, this is okay. Be accepting, be kind, and everyone's life is different, and that's all right. But to target that as problematic is so fucking problematic.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And by the way, Ketchy. Another video is by a... Sometimes a man will try to fuck a... Yeah! Yeah! I mean, seriously, I wanna see it. I just wanna know what happens. Buddy, listen, I got a new band name.
Starting point is 01:05:24 We are, you're a little blowjob. So most of the video, the most of the videos, or the three of the videos are like that. And there's one video. It is, it's a Canadian TV personality named Jesse Creschink. And she's talking to four kids around eight or whatever, nine, eight or nine. And this is what happens.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And Judy Foster is a woman and she made me question my sexuality when I was a child because I liked her so much. And she was nude in the film now. Not that I remember watching it several times as a child. Wow. Guys, I'm so impressed with you. Remember, what are we to the gay community?
Starting point is 01:06:05 We are gay icons. Sure. I'm an ally, maybe I could be an icon. I mean, everybody should aspire to grow up and be a gay icon. That's what Pride Day is all about. Great. See you at Pride, everybody! Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:06:21 That's so great. Okay. That's so great. That's so great. If I found out that video was played for my kid when he was nine, I would just fucking laugh. I'd be like, that's, you know, because you know what? You can't turn my kid gay. Like, he is going to be what he is. There's not a video that's going to do anything. Like, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Like, it's just... That's the idea that it's like watching an industrial when you're hired up Barnes and Noble. Here's how to be gay By the way, you're low blowjob. Yeah, even porn hubs like nope Give a blowjob ear lobe tucking. Yep Nope now I will say this about that video with everything that's going on, maybe not the best idea to play it at this point with all the hysteria and stuff. Um, she did run it through like the guy in the administration she's supposed to, and he was like, um, yeah, they're okay.
Starting point is 01:07:20 The one I maybe really look at, but yeah, they're, they're like, she went through the, the one I maybe really look at, but yeah, they're like she went through the teacher, went through the motions. Yeah. Board meeting, people are losing their minds. Yelling. Of course. A parent says a teacher is holding a sexual orientation class for eight year olds.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Other parents are coming down and going, no, it's great, she's creating a safe environment. Gay and trans students come and plead to the parents for acceptance. One student asks the parents if they will please stop playing politics with her life. So the teacher who I talked to an insider at the district and they said, great teacher, really great teacher.
Starting point is 01:08:09 She's removed from the class for her own safety because she's gotten so many threats. The board and mainly the superintendent, really I would say don't have her back at all. That's never really happened that they remove, they don't usually, like I read like nobody does that. Like you don't just remove a teacher for this. And it was like not punitive, but also like not helpful.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Like they just didn't back her the way they should have. And in this circumstance, when you're dealing with blatant fascism and... By the way, she's gonna be a gay icon. She's gonna be a gay icon. But if you're dealing with fascist attacks and you're dealing with Christian nationalism attacks, you have to step up and fight it instead of just sitting around and being milk
Starting point is 01:08:55 toasty about it. And the videos, the videos I'm talking about, they didn't just happen. They were shown six months before during online schooling, and nobody cared at the time. Nobody cared until the Hank did this request and found it. So it happened and went by, and then he went back and caused what is essentially hysteria for something that nobody cared about at the time. One threat to the teacher came from far away is Victorville, which is now in 30 minutes away. Gorgeous shithole.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I would also add wanting to remove a teacher from teaching during the pandemic online is fucking abhorrent Because the kids needed normalcy. How about this? How about when you point out the problem and your solution is Whatever it is. There's also an effect and you need to help like Okay, you can't have abortions. All right, what should we do with the kid? Hmm? Exactly It's the same shit. We're. All right, what should we do with the kid? Mm-mm. Exactly. It's the same shit.
Starting point is 01:10:07 It's the same shit. We're just like, well, what is, what is, okay, then what? Mm-mm. Yeah. There's good rid of it. Kids were sending the teacher emails saying, please, won't you come back?
Starting point is 01:10:19 Please. Congratulations, right wingers. You made kids suffer. So the LA Times, for an interview and the Hank refuses unless it could be live streamed on his YouTube channel. I just can't. I can't with this guy. It's just absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Jill Simonian, who is an ex-KTLA media host and now a PragerU propagandist who makes really hilarious and incredibly stupid videos for children, joins the fight. She lives in the nearby town, La Cognata. That's where her money can in Dennis Prager lives. And Jill promotes far right anti-public school agenda on PragerU and also on OAN news network. So the Hank now appears on OAN at some point. PragerU does a five minute video on GUSD and that creates massive attention. In June 2022 the Hank is soundly defeated in his city council race. He gets 9.5% and more left candidates are elected because of blowback.
Starting point is 01:11:32 The Hank and his followers then begin making connections with online hate accounts and extremist right-wingers. The Hank is now yelling at board meetings. He edits an old board meeting video removing the contest and then rages against it. Sometime in early 2023, the Hank is arrested at Kaiser Hospital for refusing to wear a mask. He then starts a crowdfunding page to raise $8,000 for a lawyer
Starting point is 01:12:02 and to maybe sue Kaiser for what is a misdemeanor. Well, it could go to the Supreme Court, so you got a lawyer up early. He only raises $585. There is a board meeting in which they pass a Holocaust Remembrance Day and a remembering the Armenian Genocide Day. Those are both approved. At that meeting, a fifth grade teacher holds up a swastika over rainbow colors and the hank is sitting beside him, grinning.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Holy shit. A swastika at a board meeting in which they have just said they will remember the Holocaust. Holy shit. Jesus Christ. And Hank is grinning. Don't you, even if you were into that, wouldn't you want to rebrand? I mean, he's saying that the trans people are the fascists. I mean, it's honestly like, it really is just a matter of trying. Like, I can't remember who said that, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:13:13 you know, when you don't have, when you can't win your argument, just bang on the table and make a lot of noise. And, you know, just that, that is essentially the MO. I mean, that's really... Yeah. Yeah. So the teacher had just been removed from the classroom that week for making anti-trans comments, and that was... That's why he was in the board meeting. After that meeting, there's threats and harassment of parents, board members, and administrators. Please have to escort the board to their cars. Later, the Hank is arguing with someone on Twitter and says,
Starting point is 01:13:41 quote, hate speech is still protected speech. That's always good. All the right wing media attention now brings in the Proud Boys and January 6th writers to fight for the Hank's cause. We're not sure, but just garage schooling. This is also having other schools in LA, an LA, a U.S.D., North Hollywood Elementary School has protests, someone burns a pride flag, goes in the classroom at night and burns a pride flag in a classroom.
Starting point is 01:14:11 There's some fights breaking out, then that leads to a homeless man being attacked. They hand out shirts that say leave our kids alone. Loka, Loka is born. There's similar things happening in Temecula, in Chico and other places. Now before the next meeting, I read that the Proud Boys and all these violent fascists are coming from all over the state to come to our board meeting. So I'm like, okay, I'm going.
Starting point is 01:14:37 The reason they are descending on our board meeting is because the board plans to approve a district pride month. So at the meeting I'm outside, PragerU is there filming. I would describe the Proud Boys as human predators constantly seeking violence. They probe, they scan, you feel it. It is a fucking darkness.
Starting point is 01:15:06 The Hank is there with a bullhorn and he's wrapped in a US flag. Oh, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ. Many of his people are not GUSD parents. Like, oh, the Hank. Police barriers are put up separating both sides. Proud boys search for entry points to get around and into the pro LGBTQ side.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Some wear box cutters on their vests. Some have bare mace. They try to flank the side, but are held off by antifa. Some are wearing earpieces so they can communicate and coordinate their attacks. I see Hank casually talking to a proud boy from Pasadena who once struck a woman journalist on the head with a metal water bottle full of something like sand. I also saw the Hank whisper in the ear of another proud boy from the Imperial Valley who was given a 32 month
Starting point is 01:16:04 sentence for making terroristic threats to a cop. He might have been sucking his ear, Dick. I'm just, I just, just as a light pitch. But the Hank seems very comfortable talking to these guys. It culminates with a fight on the street. That was started by a fascist. I see an older woman get punched by a man. The only arrest I saw were LGBTQ people defending themselves.
Starting point is 01:16:31 The brawl of course makes national news. That's the street brawl that people saw about the board meeting. After the Hank leads, the Proud Boys, the G6 guys, the Locas, mostly all dudes on a march. And at the end they stop and then he says into a bullhorn quote, tear this school down. Gareth, I mentioned this is over Pride Month. Oh, shit. Jesus Christ. For the next board meeting, it's kind of the same. Bib, the right-wingers it's kind of the same.
Starting point is 01:17:05 By the right-wingers say they plan on coming, parents are not too scared, so they write letters and send support to the board. It's the same environment. It's tense, there's cops, the right-wingers are doing their thing. They had planned performances by students, but they have to scrap it because of safety concerns because the police are like, we can't have kids around here. What point is your exercise in trying to overthrow or tear down the schools, probably having a worst effect on the students than the cause that you're claiming to have? Think about what you're doing with the kids.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yeah, it's also so obvious to try to posit questions, but it's like, it is just when you are devoid of love for other people, you don't want anyone to have it. And so, you know. Well, and also like Anita Bryant, the Hank always says, I love them. I love everybody. I love you all who's he saying he loves gay people Trans people of me He loves everybody how the fuck can you do that? It's something you learn in psycho school so fucking
Starting point is 01:18:22 This is dark man. This is this is the very yeah, this is when it gets dark. I mean now now you Now we've gone from rhetoric. We were just supposed to look back on goofy times I mean They smelled in the way their teeth were and now we're at the point where we're like literally Dolloping our doorstep. I mean I guarantee you other people are listening to this going, this is what's happening in my school district. Oh, well, this, this, I mean, even when you like, it's getting worse. But even when you go back, like when you look at charter schools and shit, like it's all
Starting point is 01:18:56 been the machinations of the, the ability to just have your version of control for the wrong fucking reasons. And at the end of the day, they want to destroy public schools because they want the money that they pay in taxes. And other states, red states specifically, have now, no, worse than that, they have now passed laws where you get like $12,000 to send your kid to a private school, which is what they're after. And I mean, you go, you like, this is, it is just the evolution of this shit.
Starting point is 01:19:28 I mean, George W. Bush was fucking cheerleading all this shit when he was president. Yeah. Okay. So, um, at the next board meeting, Hank gets three minutes to give you, to give you time based on what you're going to talk about. Like if you're talking about a subject no one else is, they give you more time. So Hank thinks he comes up with a topic no one else is talking about and they're like, you get three minutes and he demands five and they're like, no, you get three and he
Starting point is 01:19:59 spends his three minutes demanding five and really doesn't say anything. That's smart. He's like a fucking abin' Costello. He's talking about murdering math. A few days later Hank... I demand five. You'll get three. Your time is going.
Starting point is 01:20:24 I'm not going to waste any more time. I'd like to crack the pause please. The time is going. I demand five. You'll get three. Your time is going. I'm not going to waste any more time. I'd like to crack pause please. The time is going. I demand five. Here's why. The reason why I need five is because your time is almost up. Oh, God damn it. During a Twitter exchange, a Hank supporter says, quote, just give us our $13,000 per
Starting point is 01:20:40 pupil check per year and we will be on our merry way because that's the goal, as we just said. That's crazy. Yeah totally they just they just say it sometimes. The board now because so many people have been bringing in signs and standing around they say no more signs in board meetings. So... the Hank can't handle that. So he makes a poster. It's a it's a it's a painting of a nude guy. And he puts it in his pants. So it's so it's stuffed into the upper part of his pants. So it's covering his torso like wrapped around his torso. And part of pants. So it's covering his torso like wrapped around his torso. And what, what, what, at what point are you like, bro, you're not, what do you try? What are you going for
Starting point is 01:21:34 now? And what are you doing? And he, and so he tells, so there's two GEOC employees and cops there. We need to watch out for gay people. So you have a nude painting of a man in your pants. They're coming for all of us, sir. So he says, so there's like a bunch of cops there and two boys, and they're not letting him in. Like even like the brown boys like buddy, buddy, hey, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:22:02 This is a little murky. They won't let him in because he has a poster. And so, so he argues with them for like 10 minutes and he keeps saying it's a tire, not signage. It's a tire, it's part of my fashion. It's... Oh my God. Dude, you're gonna be a great dad
Starting point is 01:22:37 Okay, why a naked man I don't know but Here's what I left out. He painted a fig leaf over the genitals. Oh, my God. What is he going for? It's just like opening carrot tops bag. I'm like, I want to know what it means to him. It's just. What was he going to do? I mean, he was going to do something. He was definitely going to be like they're teaching.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Yeah, he's definitely going to be like, this. This is an art. It's still whatever. This is what they're teaching. This is what art will become under. Or like he had shown all of these things that he said were being taught in or used as curriculum. But they're all graphic. I wonder if we legalized glory holes how that would change our society I don't know what just happened Gareth pitch yeah I don't know how to tell you this glory holes are legal all right we need to we need to actively start putting them more places We need to actively start putting them more places.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And we need to get all minders who are into it with benefits. And I just think these guys like this, I just feel like if they could just like, you know, just, you know, it's just like it's a little. I know what you mean. Come on. He I think he was I think the poster may have been, I'm my guess, this is a total guess, but. Something he found in a school or something he. Something he found in the justice, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:12 the teaching for tolerance. One of those things, one of those books in the list of like, hey, check this out, but you really gotta vet it. He probably found something in there because one of the things that he found was like a graphic novel about a trans, a teen trying to figure out there are sexuality and all this other stuff. And at one point there's a, there's a illustration of someone getting a blow job and he had taken
Starting point is 01:24:33 a black marker and put over the penis before he uploaded it for all of his followers to see because none of his followers have seen a fucking penis. Right. Right. Okay. They think you could suck a dick with an ear. So he finally is allowed in, but he can't bring in the poster, but he argues for 10 minutes about his attire. Cool guy.
Starting point is 01:25:00 The next month, Hank announced he was running for the school board along with fellow right wing banana Anita Kripakian. She also scrubs her social media to appear to not be bananas. I had an online exchange at this point with the Hank. One point he made trying to make points about math and I cannot emphasize this enough. It was incomprehensible, completely made up and astounding that a human being would say it. But maybe you didn't solve his equation. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:25:35 So after we have this back and forth and people like do a dollop on him, I was like, yeah, I'll do a dollop on him. He decides to look up my charitable donations. I've seen some of this shit. And then he tweets, quote, Dave Anthony, anti-capitalist Hollywood comedian, donates 500 of capital to the LA LGBT Center, which operates a pharmacy for transgender youth. It appears he supports minors taking the same drugs that are used to chemically castrate repeat sex offenders
Starting point is 01:26:07 Okay, bro. We don't do that anymore also That's that's a medicine that is used for something called endometriosis you fucking psycho He's trying to turn you into a gay icon. Well, all that happened was is all By people who listen are like, oh, that so fucking cool you, like everyone, like there's nobody that's like you and i'm gonna imagine. Yeah, so he tried, this is his way of trying to get his his followers to attack me. In November a restaurant hosts a 250 a plate fundraiser for the Hanks school board run. It was co-sponsored by a personal injury lawyers
Starting point is 01:26:46 and a chiropractor who treats car accident injuries as Jesus. Ambulance chasers. As Jesus would want. One of those guys with the numbers 66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 in December on the bros and bros podcast The Hank says he worked 80 hours a week when he was 14 What does he live in 2024 80 hours a week at 14!
Starting point is 01:27:30 He also talks about, he didn't allow his wife to get a vaccine booster, even though she was pregnant and needed one to work at the LA Philharmonic. And then he talks about his parenting. So I live in that era of parents where it shunned if you applied physical discipline to your child, even in my own relationship, my own parenting skills, we really do try to be more positive about that. But it doesn't work. My son, like two or three nights ago, he's flashing my one-year-old. And now if he does something like that,
Starting point is 01:28:12 I will discipline him physically, but I make it very clear. You do this one more time. I will splash you in the face with the water. And he did. And he really freaked out. And he got in his eyes and I was like, Hugh, you're gonna be okay. I would never really hurt you. While he's screaming, I would never really hurt you. It's weird, they've never been punished in their lives. We were really just- Dude, I remember seeing this clip and just being like. And he'll learn. No, the water burned his eyes and he started crying. Like what, buddy?
Starting point is 01:28:55 Like, this is, by the way, just for the record, this is not what always happens when bros have beers. Sometimes it's just enjoyable. Sometimes it's just pretty simple and we're not talking about how to mace your children with bathwater. What? What about just taking the kid out of the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:29:12 What about like talking to him? He talked to him? So... He would be happy if this kid is gonna grow up fucked up. Oh boy, you know, here's the other thing about this kid and I feel really sorry for these kids, because they've now moved up into the hills, like kind of over in my area.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And it's a lot of liberals, and he is enemy number one. You mean communists, Marxists? Yeah, Marxists. He's enemy number one in the school district. He has created such a limited number of children that his child will be able to play with. You know what you should start doing is jar bathwater
Starting point is 01:29:49 and start throwing it into his eyes at every meeting he shows up to. I mean. And then your kid learned a lesson. No, no, the water burned his eyes so much that he started crying. And I said, look, you're gonna be okay. It's just dirty human water.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Daddy would never hurt you, you just hurt me. Man. I mean, damn. It's gonna be the hell of a doctor, Phil. Honestly, go to some parenting fucking classes because you shouldn't be telling the school district how to do anything fucking clean Oh, my god. I mean he just homeschooled this kid with bath water and it didn't go great
Starting point is 01:30:38 So regular Fox news guest and lawyer David Fox News guest and lawyer, David Torkin, who member he is one of the guys who joined the coalition at the beginning, is representing the teacher who held up the Swastika at the board meeting. They filed a first amendment to lawsuit against GUSD. He has also raised over $30,000 for the teacher. That's what I'm saying. If it were not a Swastika, you would have like such a better, like people would be a
Starting point is 01:31:07 little more confused, but it's just like, dude, the swastika. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the, I don't know what the, well, it'll be interesting to see, but it's great. It's great. You're suing the school district because we have tons of money. It's rumored, there's rumors that Elise, his wife, has retained the same lawyer as people
Starting point is 01:31:28 are trying to get her pushed out of the LA Philharmonic now. In early February this year, the Hank deleted his Twitter account to get rid of his long record of saying horrifying, completely unhinged nonsense. The election is March 5th. The candidates I recommend are Alex T, TSE, and, oh boy, that didn't come out, hold on. Ferret is the other one, her last name's Ferret, the first name's not there. It says Ned, her name's not Ned.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I think it's Nared, it might be Nared. Those are the two you should vote for. Here's the thing. The Hank creates chaos. That's his, that's what he does with his life because that's what he's comfortable with. I don't know what his childhood was or what the fuck happened, but- His dad probably splashed him in the eyes of the bathwater. But he is a chaos creator.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Everywhere he goes, there is a storm around him and it is largely due to what he has done and said. Do you want that, even if you believe in it? Even if you believe in what he says? Do you want that on your school board? A person who was always creating chaos? Eh, maybe think about things. GUSD policies of allowing students to select their own gender pronouns and use the restroom
Starting point is 01:32:50 of the gender with which they identify are in line with state California laws, which are there to protect the kids. A lot of this stuff is just a lot of this stuff he was talking about and getting upset about it's state stuff. It's not like there's this giant variety of things that GUSD is doing. No, but again, it's just like, it's all helpful to make yourself,
Starting point is 01:33:17 you know, known. It's just, it's right. I mean, how much of this is actually, I mean, eventually I know their long-term strategy is to fucking you know destroy schools do what we're talking about yeah but but but it's also he's elevating his platform as they all do but you know they're just trying to get the hateful rhetoric spread as much as fucking possible doesn't need to be based in reality right why buddy you the interesting is you can see the the arc as it gets more and more as fucking possible. Doesn't need to be based in reality. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:45 But the interesting thing is you can see the arc as it gets more and more disturbing, it's getting more and more dangerous. It's over time, as he doesn't get what he wants, the desperation, it increases. We're just gonna miss how simple things were and they were already complicated. Yeah. And, but this stuff is where it's like next level shit.
Starting point is 01:34:11 And, you know, the idea of to endlessly target children who are already complicated enough and make them feel shame when they're asking you for understanding because because of your own self-profit you're sacrificing the lives of others for the profit of yourselves and for the notoriety of yourselves and it is probably as dark a decision as you can really make. I think there's something even deeper and darker going on here. These are people who were raised in church organizations, the Mormons, the Catholics, the Southern Baptists, the, all of them, who had years of molestation in which they protected the molesters and moved them around. And so you have these organizations
Starting point is 01:35:05 that are their most important organizations and an inability to come to the grips with the devastation that was done, maybe to you as a child, but also to so many people that were not protected by your organization, now you're angry and you're lashing out at something else. Get your fucking shit in order.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Clean your fucking house. We already dealt with your bullshit Mormons when you came here and tried to make fucking gay marriage illegal with your fucking millions of dollars you poured in. We dealt with your shit. And now we're getting on an individual level. Go fucking deal with your bullshit.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Your churches, your fucking Baptists, your Mormons, it's fucked up. The molestation is off the fucking charts. Get your shit together and then come talk to our fucking school boards. Cause you guys are fucking monsters. The shit you let happen you're fucking monsters. Anyhow. I don't agree but I know man I mean it when you actually do think
Starting point is 01:36:16 of it like that it's like sorry what are you afraid of oh yeah yeah well Well Like what what you know didn't that what happened in your brand for a day? You saved space a century place. We take your kid every Sunday. What's going on with that? No, no, you're worried about trans people. Okay, maybe you should be worried about the fucking priest, bro. I Mean that's what it is at the end of the day This is like a this is is like a generational long trauma coming out to play on our school boards because they didn't fucking clean up their shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Someone comes over, shits all over the table, and then talks about how you gotta put a cork up your ass. I mean, I don't know what just happened. I think I bottom lined it pretty well. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 01:37:03 Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. the uh... sources uh... uh... mbc news uh... the new yorker uh... the real horton the real jordan henry dot com the gsd parents republic schools dot org uh... gsd for all twitter account uh... gustyparentsrepublicschools.org, gustyforall, Twitter account, also Twitter, Protect Glendale's,
Starting point is 01:37:27 another account, the LA Times, the Daily News, those are most of the sources. I think that's all. And then, you know, New York Times, Fox News, and then the, the, the, the, the, the, The Learning for Justice, and so on and so forth. Oh, shit. I said the New Yorker, right? New Yorker, forth. Oh, shit. I said the New Yorker, right? New Yorker, Fox. I stopped listening.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Chris Rufo is fascinating. And now we have little Rufos everywhere. Little Rufos. Didn't Disney just pick that show up? All right. Well, this has got to end at some point. Yeah, I guess. Fuck. Fuck, man, that was crazy. One slight correction, the original version said the fifth grade teacher was retiring
Starting point is 01:38:21 at when he went to the board meeting he was not retiring and they have filed the lawsuit due to that.

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