The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 633 - Rupert Murdoch - Part One

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:04:52 Get a foam head. Foam Jesus finger and bring it to the show. Yep. No, is it safe to say I like Perth a lot. I do like Perth. It's just to fly from LA to Perth is, is hell? It's mind-bendingly awful. It's hell. It's hell.
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Starting point is 00:05:50 Thanks for coming. Do you what did you I don't want you to ask about projects again because I already What projects do you have coming up? I'm doing a an Indy And a Jones movie. Oh, I'm doing an Indy. doing an indie Indiana Jones right called Indy Jones and it's where Indiana Jones decides He's finally going to make a biopic about himself, but he has to do it on a real low budget Yeah, so it's an indie Indiana Jones And um and that's what I've been working on. I wrote it. It sounds I star in it bad Well, you asked me to come on this show and give you some stuff And that's what I've been working on. I wrote it. Sounds. I star in it. Ben.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Well, you asked me to come on the show and give you some stuff. And so I'm kind of helping. I was hoping it would be better. Well, you haven't seen it yet. I have. And it is in a bad spot. He dies right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I mean, the whole idea is upsetting. It's bad. It's what happens when there's a strike. It's an Indiana Jones hat on an Indiana Jones hat. It's what happens when there's a strike and you're floundering and desperately trying to get a lot of people are saying this is what causes the strike projects going. Yeah. No, I'm also doing a one about a a boat.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And I'm actually looking to see if I can sell that to a steamer. boat and I'm actually looking to see if I can sell that to a steamer. Not a streamer. March 11th, 1931, year of our lord, J-Town. Sure. Nope. What? He's coming out with sweatbands, headband combination. It'll stay on through your longboarding.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It'll stay on through all your rad bike tricks. It's all stuff that exists. All rad bike tricks, but they're Jesus, they got J-Town on the side. It just doesn't even make any sense. It's about branding, and the other kids see it, and they think, wow, you're doing an ollie? You're doing an ollie, and you have a J-Town headband on?
Starting point is 00:07:40 And they go, what's that all about? And then you sit down, and you say, let me tell you what it's about. It's dumb, and you know. It's all about and then you sit down you see let me tell you what it's done And you know It's about Jaytown. I asked If there was no Jaytown, there would be no Ollie. I just it's like where are we headed? Keith Rupert Murdoch was oh my god. Oh Christ this person we got to come to Australia Oh my god, oh Christ
Starting point is 00:08:05 We come to Australia I wanted to do this live but it's too long So this is thinking you could do a live to partner wasn't sure but no, I didn't think I do hard to market That's impossible Jesus. Yeah, so we're just gonna do this now Jesus. Yeah, so we're just gonna do this now. I should have brought some alcohol. We should order some booze up to the room for the second part. Yeah, I have gin and tonics in my room. Look at you. You're like a Murdoch.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Keith River Murdoch was born in a melamine to Keith and Elizabeth Murdoch Keith grew up poor but very well connected His father was a reverend what year is this this is 1931 that so this is this is Rupert This is yeah, I kind of fucked up with this. Oh Yes, Rupert is born but we're gonna talk about his dad for a minute. Okay His father was a reverend in, his grandfather, so. Great-grandpa Murdoch. Was a reverend in the Presbyterian Church, and after school, Keith gets a job at the H newspaper through Family Connections.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Okay. So this is River's dad we're talking about. Right, Keith. In 1908, he went to London, and he had a lot of letters of recommendation that he came with. Like, that's how we met. Was that right?
Starting point is 00:09:31 You presented letters of recommendation to me. How fucking great would that be? Marin, please take care of us to your prestigious podcast. And that included one from his dad's friend, the Australian Prime Minister Alfred Deakin. Okay. So that's pretty helpful. That's a door opener. Yeah. It's a panty dropper too. I've got to lay it off a Prime Minister letter. We could have gone without that. I've gotten laid because of a prime minister letter. In 1910, Keith returned and helped found the Australian Journalists Association, so a union. The A-
Starting point is 00:10:13 Is it wrong that I'm already furious? Ha ha ha, wait till we get into it. The AGA increases his salary just a few months later from four pounds a week to six pounds a week. Okay. So the Union working. Mm-hmm. One third higher salary. Yep. In August 1915 British commanders make a terrible strategic error and it leads to 29,000 British and Irish and 11,000 Australian and New Zealanders soldiers dying on the beaches of Gallipoli. Fuckin' me. For those of us just finding out about this, this is
Starting point is 00:10:52 shocking news. Turkey, if you don't know. I know where it is. I mean basically I believe they're trying to cut off Constantinople, Istanbul. They might be giants, blah blah blah. Yeah, the band. This is all about the band. The Australian government doesn't know, they don't know what happened because news is so hard to get out and there's censorship with the wars and all that. So imagine. They knew something had happened so they sent Keith on an undercover mission to find out what happened. Okay. And he meets there, he meets a British war correspondent who's embedded with the army.
Starting point is 00:11:30 God, if only he died. Oh, buddy. The beautiful butterfly effect of him dying. I cannot tell you how many times I had that thought reading. Just if only the guy died, if he just died. Yeah, we wouldn't be where we are. If someone just discrotemed him. I mean, there would be.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Did you say discrotemed? I'm allowed to say it, and I have said it, and I will say it again. I'm just wondering why. Well, I'm promoting the film, so I'm gonna say things like that, and that's gonna happen. So just relax, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Sit back and enjoy the ride. But yeah, I said discrotemed. If someone had just ripped his balls off, discrotum him. I'm done with your looks. What do you think? Do you think there's a guy in war with a discrotumer tool?
Starting point is 00:12:14 They all have a monkey who does it, you idiot. Yeah, but that's fair. That's fair. God. I have to explain combat to you. I forgot about war monkeys. Yeah, I forgot about war. There's a war monkey and they go and go and they train them on a peach tree and then they slowly move
Starting point is 00:12:31 that into nutbags. My favorite Ozzy Osbourne song is War Monkeys. It's a great song. So he meets his British war correspondent, he's with the army, and he said the assault was quote, most ghastly and costly fiasco. Okay. So that's bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And he also said British command was full of quote, muddles and mismanagement. What's a muddle? You're a British. So when you mash something at the base of a drink. Muddling. No, muddles is mother puddles. What? No, what? Huh? Muddles is a dog.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And he's an animated dog. He's a little bit like Tintin. But it's the British one. Oh, muddles, you've done it again! It's like that. It's like a comic strip. The sense awful It's like aesthetics. Mm-hmm so he can't write about this the the British journalists because There's wartime censorship. You can't everything has to go through the censor So he's not gonna be able to write about it how badly everything was fucked up. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:13:41 he's not gonna be able to write about it. How badly everything was fucked up. So Keith ends up, he actually wrote something and then tried to get it to England and he got stopped and it was confiscated. So now Keith writes a letter based on the reporter's views and what he saw. And then Keith throws in some embellishments of his own. Okay. It's a 25 page letter. Okay. And a lot of emotive language to really boost the
Starting point is 00:14:13 bravery and the valor of the Australian soldiers. Specifically. Specifically Australian soldiers. He puts Australian troops on a pedestal. Right, okay. They're physically and mentally superior to the cowardly and weak British. Interesting. Interesting. No? We're not gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:14:33 No, well, I mean, I think just in general, the British. A lot of people are blaming muddles. What, like, what would happen to the British if you just took away tea? Would it just end? Would be an enormous problem. If you, I mean, there's that saying that you're three missed meals away from a revolution,
Starting point is 00:14:49 you're probably two cups of tea away from a revolution in England. They love tea. It's like, on average, out of the average English person drinks six cups of tea a day. Maybe more. It's terrifying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Right, so he's talking about the, he's talking about just, the Australians are amazing. They're better and they excelled in manliness, skill, grit, and courage. And then Keith also attacked the English commander who, there was an English commander who had accused Australian soldiers of rioting in Cairo's red light district. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And the reason he accused them of that is because they rioted in the red light district. Quote, only a very few of our men had burnt some houses in which they had been drugged and diseased. So just a few Australians set fire to buildings. Right, and they were inebriated, which is why, is that what he's saying? Well, he said that they got drugged and diseased right in the so they they are out of their minds Well, they had no they had sex and they didn't like that. They got chlamydia or whatever afterwards gonorrhea Yeah, I'm really a sinner. So they burned down sure because it's not their fault. I don't know I did that But when I when I got crabs, I just that is
Starting point is 00:16:02 Buddy, yeah. Yeah when I got crabs Chinatown went up you know what I mean I'm one of the few guys who kept them interesting yeah I grew I grew the zone out a little bit to give him a little bit more of a home sure you're a conservationist yeah heart absolutely yeah yeah I hear that's being set aside as a national park There is talk of potentially making it either a state park or a national park. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean it's you know, it's There's a there's a substantial. It's substantial at this point and You know remember under the sea. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we've got a little we've got a bunch of little old guys in there saying their socks Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's bad, but it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So this Keith's narrative is the basis for the Australian
Starting point is 00:16:56 Gallipoli belief, which is basically their inability to process a disaster. Right? Right. It's taking it instead of just being like, well, what a fucking disaster that was. They were great. Our boys. It's that which is such an interesting right. We're ready to pull out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this letter goes to the British and Australian prime ministers. The owner of the Times gets it.
Starting point is 00:17:23 He passes around his like network of buddies. So the British ruling class is reading it. They have a very long tradition of turning defeat or disaster into victory to avoid any questioning of how much they fucked up. So Keith keeps cracking up propaganda for World War II, this mindless war that's happening. Basically he and the people he's surrounded by want the fighting to just happen on the Western Front and abandon that nonsense over there. So he saw the war as a quote, regenerative process for the Anglo-Saxon race. Oh my god. It's a good way to, it's good.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's good. The idea that we are known on World War II is that the whites are not. It's just fucking crazy. So at least everyone had kind of had one goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He also pushed conscription. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And he claimed the Germans were making, quote, margarine from corpses. Oh my God. I don't know if they like labeled it or if they put the ingredients. I mean, you would think they wouldn't put the ingredients on there. Is that what I can't believe it's not butter is?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah. That is crazy. It was originally called I can't believe it's not German. Right. is crazy. It was originally called. I can't believe it's not German right, but then they're like well They're on a German and then they were like I can't believe it's not Australians. That's better That's a That's quite a story. Yeah So Keith comes back to Australia a hero In 1923 he became editor-in-chief of The Herald and Weekly Times. Now, he thought people wanted entertainment. If The Herald, quote, tried for too much seriousness and
Starting point is 00:19:17 respectability, it would lose readers of the uneducated, unthinking class. It's so interesting. It, I think that watching political rallies now, I really am just like, wow, everyone's so fucking dumb. Yeah. And we've caught, you know, for a long time, like been growing and coddling the, I mean, again, I thought Benjamin Franklin was a president. I'm not... He was. Elevating with...
Starting point is 00:19:46 We've been playing a joke on you. Jesus Christ! What? That's so good! Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got everybody... By the way, I knew it. Yeah. He obviously... Where is the damn 100? He's on the 100. He's on the 100.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's pretty obvious. But it is so interesting that it's like, yeah, that plan worked so well to be like the uninformed, that's the key. But you know, it's also just thinking little of the, Yeah. Of the uneducated, like the people that didn't go to college or they just made it think, well, they're all stupid, but you could explain this shit to them if you wanted.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Well, I mean, clearly before that, it had worked for a long time. Yeah. So we're talking human interest, emotion, and sentiment. That's what they're going for with the news. So he starts a sports paper, and he starts beauty contests, and he starts a contest for the best baby
Starting point is 00:20:43 in the British Empire. Wow, best baby. See, before they get teeth. White, obviously. Well, obviously, good Lord. Um, a match. Yeah, imagine they're not entering a non white baby into that contest. Shut it down. Shut it down.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So through the late 1920s, he just expanding he's buying shares of papers papers smart. Yeah, that feels like a One. Yeah, I'm he buys shares and papers in Perth and Brisbane and Adelaide and in 1928 Keith sees Elizabeth Green's photo in a debutantes announcement and He arranges for a meeting. You know, you see a girl in a paper and you think, that should be mine. Well, I think...
Starting point is 00:21:39 Set it up! What about meeting a woman around you in It's hard and it's hard in this time to be like crazy because it's still crazy It is well, especially if you're like, I'm a journalist. Yeah, I'm an editor-in-chief Let's have a meeting but you really just trying to bang but I mean, you know if you go on Instagram You see some of the stuff men, right? You're like, I mentioned she's 18. He's 43. Well now that's news That's a bit of news. They were married that year. Oh, fuck. Christ.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. Baby Helen comes the next year. And then they immediately leave after she's born. They leave her with a nanny and they go on a world tour. That's what you do when you have a new baby. I could do that leave it He bought another Melbourne paper and comparisons are now being made to William Randolph first Magnate monopoly concern. Yeah, I wonder why I don't know You think it's ladies monopolizing. I don't know, I can't really tell. That's interesting. So Keith is impressed by this Tasmanian labor MP,
Starting point is 00:22:50 Joseph Aloysius Lyons. Wow. Lyons is very focused on a balanced budget, which is not what labor's about at all. So Keith pushes him to more conservative thinking on economics, and then Lyons leaves the Labor Party and he helps form the United Australia Party, Conservative Party, and then a year later he's Prime Minister. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:19 So he, okay, well there you go. That's how you do it. Keith, quote, felt that he was a kingmaker. Yeah, sure. So yeah. So Rupert Murdoch is born in 1931. And in 1933, Keith is knighted. Oh, fuck. Nice. So bad. During World War Two, Keith was offered
Starting point is 00:23:44 director general of Information. And that is just basically in control of the outpour of information? He can dictate and censor whatever he wants. So outlets, all the news outlets. It seems dangerous. Maybe? Other journalists are very upset by this. Wow. And in 1942, Keith becomes chairman and managing director of the Herald and Weekly
Starting point is 00:24:11 Times. He's just rolling along. The idea if you grew up in this. Yeah. It's very... Sexy. No. He spoke, uh... So, uh, wait. Oh. So Keith would talk to young Rupert about the business. And his mom was like... Do not play with my fire engines! Basically his mom's like, what are you doing? He's too young. What are you...
Starting point is 00:24:43 Gotta be careful what you tell your friends. You should be in charge of what your friends are finding out. Do you understand? Uh, Rupert went to Geelong Grammar, which was the top private school in the country. Sure. He read dad's paper each day. Just a great kid. Just a great fun kid. I wanna get a time machine and travel back in time just to beat him up. No, go further back and kick his mother in the belly.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Oh, sexy. Quote, marking it up in pen, anticipating what his father would think of it, and making comments. Can you imagine the fucking nerve? If you became the professor of information for a nation. Yeah. And then your kid is like, they've got a couple notes on your newspaper.
Starting point is 00:25:34 My you've got no fucking clue what you're off to. You get out of this fucking ass thing is what you'll do. Also, making comments such as there's an editorial on the front page, you can't do that. I mean, so he's right, basically? So he's got the right notes? I guess so. Well, I can do whatever I want, boy.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But I feel like you're misleading the public a bit. It's not what we do. I think it's rough a bit. He- What opinion I did? A school friend said Rupert was a complete loner and disdainful of the hierarchy at the Posh Private School. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:15 For the wrong reasons, probably. Yeah, yeah, for the wrong reasons. So Rupert wanted to stay in Australia and take over the media business, but daddy made him go to Oxford. Paul, just a nerd. No, you have to go to Oxford. Alexis, just the lives of these people fucking live.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I do. So while he's there, Ruben becomes pen pals with the Labor Prime Minister of Australia. As you do when you're an 18-year-old kid at college. You speak of a pen pal, the leader of your country. Ugh. Ben Shiffley was his name. They met through daddy, of course, and Rupert, however, gets into socialism and didn't like quote, Tory quackery.
Starting point is 00:27:02 This is strange. He's secretary of the College Labor Party. What happened? Edits the Journal. Is he just being rebellious? He gets the nickname Red Roupe on campus for having a Lenin bust in his room. What the fuck? What happened? He hits like in likes sitcoms when a character falls and hits their head and they become like jazz Well, he just did that was his dad freaked out his dad sure like loses his shoe Well, that's to be expected and send one of his top employees to England We've done the bids in the base, but we might have to do the linens and the star ones
Starting point is 00:27:46 This guy's name is Rowan rivet and he is to keep an eye on Rupert Wow, so he sends Because he's leaning on me guard a commie guard a commie up Watch calm block a calm blocker right calm, right? so Rivet gets him working A watch. A com block. A com blocker, right. A com blocker. Yeah, right. So Rivet gets him working at a job at the News Chronicle. Now Keith retires from the Herald and Weekly Times in 1949, but he still goes to the office full-time.
Starting point is 00:28:20 So he still doesn't. Whatever Rivet was doing worked, because Rivet gets expelled from the campus labor club. Okay. And he writes a big long letter to his dad which just fires up Keith. Keith's like, yeah. He said quote, thank God the boys got it. And then he died two days later. Seriously? So he got to die a happy man cuz he knew his son was gonna be a total piece of shit instead of a lefty Yeah, I just that could have timed out a little yeah if he had died So you're earlier was a Lenin boy. Yeah, right? Yeah Damn, yeah
Starting point is 00:29:02 So Keith had a lot of debt Turns out interesting he had no controlling interest in the Herald and the Weekly Times Yeah. So Keith had a lot of debt, turns out. Interesting. He had no controlling interest in the Herald and the Weekly Times. So Elizabeth sold the courier mail shares to pay debtors off. And at the end of the day, Rupert only had the Adelaide News.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And so he moves there when he's 23 to take it over. Poor bastard. So sad. Can you imagine only having the number one paper in Adelaide? Or it might even not be number one. Having to go to Adelaide. Your father had an empire. So he's bummed.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He's probably a little shocked. He makes Rivet the editor. Okay. And they get along very well. They're very close and Rupert would write headlines and he'd design and print. Rivet is very socially progressive. Who's Rivet? He's the guy that his dad sent. The watchman. Yeah. Right. Adelaide was under, at this point, the 26 year rule of a very conservative Prime Minister, Thomas Playford, all gerrymandering shit, right? Wait, their own Prime Minister? Adelaide's Prime Minister, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Oh, they have their own Prime Minister? Yeah, every state has a PM. This country is so bizarre. I know, PM on top of the PM. It's like if every state had a president. It's a governor. It's just the same thing, different name. No, it's not. It's the same thing, different name. No, it isn't. Uh, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:40 So, uh, so this guy's really, really right-wing. He's gerrymandering the shit out of it. That's how he's staying in power. South Australia at that point was known as the Hanging State because it was so punitive. Wow. So Rupert marries Patricia Brooker. Okay. And they have a daughter, Prudence.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Ugh, get fucked. Yeah, it's a bad one. The Adelaide News is liberal and progressive and very unpopular in the right-wing state. Sure. And in 1959, a nine-year-old girl is sexually assaulted and murdered. And then a traveling circus worker,
Starting point is 00:31:20 who's an indigenous gentleman, is arrested and sentenced to death based on a very detailed confession he gives. Soon after, a priest tells Rivet that this guy barely speaks English and there's no way he could have made a detailed confession. So the paper looks into it and they pursue the story and they find a circus worker who provides an alibi. And the Adelaide News calls for the execution to be stayed. Wow. And this is the new the new story in 1960 Adelaide.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And the PM ends up staying the execution, but he's furious that he had to. Okay. This is the classic. He's not white! Yeah. Rivet is arrested and tried for seditious libel. Kill him. So Rupert had written some of the headlines that got them in trouble. He at this point he's in Sydney. He's buying the Daily Mirror and the relationship between Rupert and Rivet starts to break down. Sure. And Rupert told him to quote, ease up on criticizing the Playford government and focus on revenue.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Sure. Sure. Sure. I mean, yeah, right. Yeah. That's what matters. I mean, you essentially drove the number one news story of the year and got an innocent guy off, but stop that. Come on. Your heart's in the wrong place.
Starting point is 00:33:07 So his trial goes on for two weeks. Rivets. Rivet would get threatening phone calls. He couldn't sleep at night. It was a total nightmare for him. Rupert never went to the trial. Okay. Didn't show up. Sure. Doesn't surprise me. How old is Rupert now? 20s? Ah, nah, you know, I don't know. Yeah, he's 20s. He's 20s. Yeah, early 20s. So, he's found not guilty in the end,
Starting point is 00:33:34 but Rivet now, sorry, Rupert now thought the campaign had just gone way too far. The, this guy's innocent campaign. Mm-hmm. I can't, I can't you go too far on a this guy's innocent. Can you go too far? This guy's innocent. Yeah. And why? Why would you be... Yeah. Because it's like, he's clearly just going conservative. This guy used to have a Lennon bust. Yeah. Mussolini used to be a socialist. So now Roberts, like, the paper's too left wing
Starting point is 00:34:05 and it's aggressive. Basically he realizes he has to repair his relationship with the establishment. In Adelaide. In Adelaide. And just the government jail. So he fires Rivet in a letter. Okay, nice.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Super classy. Rivet called him a quote cowardly little bugger. Sure. Well, the firing shocked everybody because Rivet's like a legitimately good news guy, but also like his right hand man. Sure. So Rupert expands his news empire. And in 1964, he created Australia's first national newspaper, The Australian. Such a dumb name. It was progressive and serious. It criticized the government of Vietnam. In 1967, socialist, socialist, Goff Whitlam becomes leader of the Labor Party. Right. Is that's the guy
Starting point is 00:34:57 you got? Mm-hmm. Okay. And Rupert hired Goff's ex chief of staff, John Menadue, at the Australian. So a lot of connections, right? He organized, this guy organized a bunch of meetings between Rupert and Whitlam, dinners and meetings and Murdoch papers are supporting Whitlam. And then Whitlam wins. He's prime minister. And Rupert is like, I'm the kingmaker like my dad like daddy
Starting point is 00:35:27 He expects to get frequent access but Whitlam is now avoiding him and He starts saying he's too busy. I'm just too busy. I don't have any time and then they finally do meet and After Whitlam told menadu, quote, "'Comrade, it was the most boring time of my life.'" So Rupert turns on Whitlam. And Whitlam gets removed as Prime Minister
Starting point is 00:35:59 by the CIA and the Queen. And then back right-wing coup. That's episode 532. And Rupert's papers now start an all out assault on Whitlam because now there's gonna be an election. He got removed, there's gonna be an election now. So it's a 1975 election. Well the news is meant to be personal.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yes. It's meant to be, yes. It's supposed to, yeah, you're supposed to operate your journalism out of personal emotion who fucked with me is yes Yes, right. Yeah, so you've Tony Soprano had a paper. Thank you. Thank you So headlines were changed to sound worse people were cut from photos. So the photos look salacious The Australian an Australian reporter quote, they changed a lot of my stuff. It was all totally unsubtle, very ham-fisted.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Working for Murdoch is a good excuse in understanding the politics of the media. Right. So in October 1975, 76 journalists at The Australian go on strike protesting the quote blind Biased tunnel visioned ad hoc logically confused and relentless way. Yes, Jan was reporting news Wow, so that's and okay, so that has to be this bad that bad when the journalists are like no Hey, what are you doing? Yeah
Starting point is 00:37:26 in a meeting Rupert asked what was wrong with? The problem a reporter takes out a Copy of the Sydney morning Herald to compare and Rupert screams Quote you dare show this paper to me? These people are our enemies trying to destroy us. Wow. Which is literally not how it- It just takes one evil prick in a-
Starting point is 00:37:54 To fuck it all up. To fuck everything up. Just one person who just goes, and it always is birthed out of just, it's the financial part. It's the financial part that we always say is crushing every moral, that until you get rid of that, it'll never stop.
Starting point is 00:38:11 But it just takes the one guy to break the mold, and it is a man, to break the mold, to just be like, we need to make everything about me. So, Whitlam loses the election. everything about me. So Whitlam loses the election, obviously. And they're creamed, like labor is just brutally slaughtered. And he blames, he blamed Rupert. Quote, we had all the media against us, as we always do, but they were particularly virulent at that time.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And in fact, the Murdoch papers had a strike on their hands over the degree to which the owner was intervening. Right. Yeah, so in 1968, the Carr family, who were owners of England's news of the world. Okay. Were mired by infighting, making it ripe for a takeover. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Jimmy Carr is related to that. Jimmy Carr is for money, right? I don't know. You think? He seems like it, yeah. That's Tom Downey. He knows him. Oh, does he?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah. Tom is on tour. So Robert Maxwell, the father of Giselle. Oh, does he? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tom was on toilet. So Robert Maxwell, the father of Giselle. Oh shit. Was the likely new owner like he looked like he was gonna take over the paper. Okay. The paper runs an editorial quote. It would not be a good thing for Mr. Maxwell formerly Jan Ludwig Ludwig Hawk To gain control of this newspaper, which is as British as roast beef and Yorkshire pudding. Very British.
Starting point is 00:39:48 This is a British paper run by British people. Let's keep it that way. Very British. Very British. Yeah, okay. But it's weird too when the paper is running articles on who shouldn't buy them. Don't buy me. Then Rupert comes into the picture. Oh, this paper is as British as bad teeth and cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:40:15 No one knows who the fuck Rupert is in England. What a better time. Yeah. And he pretends to support Carr against Maxwell. And he gets the support of the board. And then he took control of the paper. Fuck. Six months later, he fucks over Carr and sacks him. But the news of the world is a Sunday paper.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So he wants more. Right. And he wants a daily. And he sets his sight on the sun, which is doing terribly. What are the, like, is it, is it, I mean, are there rules in place? Clearly not. Like, you can buy every paper you want.
Starting point is 00:40:56 There are rules in place. We'll get to that. Okay. Yeah, yeah, there's totally rules in place. Speaking of rules in place, Gareth, the dollop is brought to you by Nutrifol. Oh, Dave. Nutrifol is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand with over one million people seeing thicker, stronger, faster growing hair with less shedding.
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Starting point is 00:43:16 Okay. I mean, it's a bummer. Leave me halfway. Look, as you probably know, I travel a lot. Too much? Sure. Look, as you probably know, I travel a lot. Too much? Sure, sure, that's fair. And on the road, if I ever have a choice between a hotel or an Airbnb, I always go Airbnb just because it's better.
Starting point is 00:43:34 So for instance, when I was just on tour recently, there were a couple nights where I had off and instead of getting a hotel, I would get an Airbnb because I could have a kitchen. I like a home way over a hotel. There's just a little bit more of a personalized experience. So whenever it's up to me, I really always go with that just because it's better. It feels like your home. You just have more amenities. But also, I recently started thinking like while I'm gone, can I turn my place into an
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Starting point is 00:44:29 He tells his son, he takes over the son. Right. And he tells the staff three things are going to sell the paper. Sex, sports, and contests. It's just, it's just like, it's like, honestly, what you'd go like, well yeah, but we have like a role. We have a role in society. Like this is like, we're more important
Starting point is 00:44:51 than what you're after. Yeah, but this is. But also knowing the way that that paper goes. I believe that was the paper when I would go to England where I would be like, literally be like 11 or 12 and be like, those are tits. Oh yeah, okay, you'll see. Like page six tits or something.
Starting point is 00:45:11 He said he, quote, I want a tear away paper with a lot of tit. I swear to God, I remember. Because I'd go into like, you'd go into like news agents in the UK. And you would just like, I would literally just be like, what, I don't have access to this. Yeah. The Sun told readers, it would be a quote, it would be quote, the paper that cares passionately
Starting point is 00:45:40 about truth and beauty and justice, and about the kind of world we would like our children to live in. Oh, for fuck's sake. Tits on three, baby! Like he's already said sex, sports, and contests. Yeah, but I'm, yes. Yeah, but he's-
Starting point is 00:45:55 But that's basically what the playbook is. The playbook is always to just say the thing and you're like, okay. And then just tits, contests. So he's, in his opinion, changing it and then just tit, contest. So he's, in his opinion, changing it to appeal to the working class. Sure. A topless woman on page three every single day.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Right. Or a teenager. Samantha Fox was 16 when she took photos and then the photographer talked her and they're taking topless photos. She didn't think they were gonna be used, and then bang, they're on page three of The Sun. Oy, oy, oy, oy.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And then her life was, on one hand, she's a celebrity, on the other hand, you know, it's like not for a 16-year-old. Oh, my head is just terrible. Jesus Christ. But men consider it fun and liberating, right? Because you've got... Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:50 It's like you can't let the males police themselves. There needs to be integrity in force when it comes to that sort of stuff. Because if you just put tits on page three, you're going to find very few men are like stop this Can't we're unable to do that sort of like we need someone to be like don't we don't put tits on our paper It's just not what we do. Yeah, like you don't like put like vaginas on the cereal boxes It's just it's not the thing. That's actually an idea. It's not a bad call. No, it's not have you tried vaginas No, but I will.
Starting point is 00:47:25 That's great. Yeah, so they see themselves as like the enfant terrible of Fleet Street, like they're the bad boys, right? By 1975, Rupert triples readership. Cause there's tits on Page Three. Cause there's tits. From one million to 3.5.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Caling, why'd you start buying this paper instead of the other? Oh, now love, do they not do page three? It's never inside. I don't know, but I know I enjoy it. There's a contest. Is there other stuff besides page three? There's a contest for you. Go on. I'm going to go to the Wank Shed.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And then we get to four. I'm going to go to the Wank Shed. Yes, so readership goes from 1 million to 3.5. Sure. It's now the biggest selling daily paper. And yet Rupert... But it's not genius. No it's not genius. He's just putting tits and having contests. It's not really genius. It's just someone having the low standards to do it. It's recognizing how dumb the species is. Yes. The people want boobs. Yes. And contests. Yes. Yeah. So, Rupert Still, quote, I despise all journalists. Well, that's not great. When told the reporter at News of the World had died, Rupert said, quote, Well, it wasn't from overwork. That's a good guy, at least. Journalists, famously lazy journalists.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yeah, good guy. In 1973, the Murdochs moved to New York. He's now with his second wife, Anna, and they have three kids, Elizabeth, Lachlan, and James. Ugh, Lachlan. He buys two San Antonio papers and starts a weekly trash paper, The National Star. They should just, the second that he moves to New York, the government should just be like, this man is not allowed. We are barring this man from buying any journalistic endeavor in this country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Of course, he starts in Texas. He starts his national paper, The National Star, which is gonna compete with the National Enquirer. He buys the New York Post for 30 million. Fuck. Time Magazine puts him on the cover with his face on King Kong. The idea of celebrating it.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah, but they, you know, business people love that. What a titan he is. What a great man. It's also their world. Like, they're periodical, so they're sort of just like sexi-wa! Our world's spicy! We might have tits on page nine! New York Magazine is having financial problems. The editor and publisher, Clay Felker, goes to his friend Rupert, asks for help.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Instead, Rupert takes it over. Nice. And Felker and his 40 staff leave in protest, but Rupert doesn't care. Right, yeah. He makes the post a right-wing tabloid shit show that we know today. But can we admit some of the better headlines?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah, 100%. It would be a dream job to get into that headline writing room. The Columbia Journalism Review called Rupert sinister. Sure, thank you very much. The New York Times called him, quote, an evil element. Well, first of all, go fuck yourself. You should check yourself out right now. Because you're. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Feels like he did by you. Great. The Post doesn't make money. Yeah. 1988. Rupert has to sell it due to cross media laws. Oh, wow. OK. Just too much media in one place. You can't have that much media. OK. That's all going to change when Clinton gets.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I was just going to. Oh, fuck me, of course. Because Republicans always want to do it, but they couldn't because Democrats are stopping them. But when a Democrat wants to do it, all the Democrats roll over. How close are we to the public understanding that phenomenon? It's never going to happen. I mean, Clinton's legacy is Reagan's third term. Like, that's what he was. Right. He apparently- Well, and all this stuff that Bush was like, couldn't possibly dream of doing.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Clinton got it done. All Bubba came in, he's like, hey, I don't understand. Yeah. I'm just a little guy. I like egg mcmuffins and pullin' my weed around. I don't get it. So, Rupert apparently cried when he had to sell it.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Although a reporter said it was like, quote, Dracula selling his coffin. Wow, I can't even wrap my head around that. That is crazy. I'm not even sure what that means, but it's so accurate. Like, Dracula selling his coffin. Crazy. I'm not even sure what that means, but it's so accurate. Now, part of the thing is such sweet sorrow. Remember when I said a Democrat came to help Bill Clinton? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Well, there's nothing like a Democrat in in New York or as I call them, Republicans. Mario Cuomo. Oh, God. Then lobbies for Rupert to get an exemption to cross-media ownership laws. And he's just bribed. Yeah. And he rebides The Post in 1993. I've got my sleeping chamber back.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Just fucking Democrats, man. So in 1979, British elected Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. For fuck's sake. This is all, this is so, the confluence of all this is. Yeah. Her popularity just nosedived once she was in office though. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:00 She was at that point the most unpopular prime minister ever. And then we said you ain't seen nothing yet, Mags. I mean the same thing happened with Reagan. Reagan got in. He was super unpopular. Yeah, George W. Bush too. If you read The Sun, however, you would think that Thatcher was the best thing ever. Very Churchillian, like just could not stop talking about her. And Mags and Rupert-
Starting point is 00:53:28 She also eats bacon in the bathtub. Mags and Rupert, it turns out, are great friends. Uh huh. Not surprising. They both hate government regulation. Sure. And they meet all the time. That is one of those terms that I feel like when I grew up,
Starting point is 00:53:46 I was like, I probably wasn't, until I understood what that was code for, I was like, well, yeah, you got the guy who like deregulate, you know, let it like relax. And then it's like, I don't, if only, and I can't believe they still use that terminology. Well, people don't connect it to like, Oh, the housing crisis was because of deregulation.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Just like anytime you hear, The California energy crisis deregulation. Anytime you hear it, it's bad. A nightmare, it's a nightmare, right. Freak out. Especially because the people doing it are the last people you want doing it, yes. But regulation is how like, You it. Yes. But regulation is how like you save your society.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yes, you you need we've done the deregulated version before as well. And then we regulated it. Well, the Great Depression and the deregulation, the depression of 2007. Yes, all that deregulation. Always deregulation. So so they love each other. She knows he wants to buy a respectable paper. There's your, you've got to buy a respectable paper.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Established in 1785, the Times was considered Britain's best quality paper, but it's losing money. Then typesetters go on strike. Oh, I don don't know what if we put an open vagina on page 9 On the back we'll have an anus and on the back of every paper we show a spread anus So typesetters go on strike and then the owner puts it up for sale in 1981 Rupert talks to Mags and of course, she's going to support this because he props her up, promises that the it's a pro thatcher paper.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Editorially independent. He just wants to modernize it. That's all he says. I just want to bring it up to standard. So Mag goes and urges the Monopoly Commission to not investigate and he buys an unprecedented third daily paper. What is the level of public uproar, outcry during this time? Any awareness?
Starting point is 00:56:00 I bet it's only from unions, leftists, but unions are probably the only ones Screaming but at this point nobody but it's also who the fuck is gonna be reporting on how shady this is He's bought all the publications, right? So everyone that's reporting it is just like doesn't seem too bad his arms in the right spot Give him a shot. Yeah, all the rich people say it's great because they know they're gonna have their back covered. Yeah Give them a shot. Yeah, all the rich people are saying it's great because they know they're gonna have their back covered. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And it definitely takes you a while to live, at least for me, it took me a while to live in the society of the level of whatever you wanna call it, for lack of a better term, propaganda that this country uses to be like, oh, it really is that bad. Yeah, it's really that bad. So even though he bought a third paper, Mag's government still does not refer him to the Monopoly Commission.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's still not happening. I think it's fine. It's all right. There's no problem. He's nice. Thank you, Maggath. Um, and handwritten thank you notes, Rupert called Mag's,
Starting point is 00:57:02 My dear Prime Minister, his papers supported her Falkland Islands war. A reporter quote, it was as if we were another part of the government. Imagine. When an Argentinian submarine was sunk, the sun planned the headline, gotcha. And the sub was just a cock on the pictures.
Starting point is 00:57:31 An hour later they learned 320 people had died on the submarine but- Oopsie! We're told the editor to still keep that in mind. What the fuck? Don't change it! It's a good one! What the fuck? Well you have to dehumanize your enemy
Starting point is 00:57:45 But I think wouldn't it be better. Okay, you do it a little more incrementally. Nope. I mean that is like guns out that is The Sun helps the war become the highlight of mags rain He calls her Churchillian, her leadership, they say it's what Britain needs. Churchillian sounds like a werewolf of Winston Churchill. I think it sounds like if you're much like ancient Chile. Yes, right, right. Well, sometimes if I smoke a cigar
Starting point is 00:58:16 and drink gin in the bath, I say I'm Churchillian. What do you want me to do with that? Want you to enjoy it? Because it's great. What are you doing in there? I'm just chilling. That's why I've just got bacon over my eyes and I'm pouring martinis into myself. There's no water in this bathtub.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I'm so feeling slowly. So Mag said she had quote quote made Great Britain great again, Oh Christ So so by the way, I've been some reason reading a lot of I've been reading a lot of right-wing things. Yeah, you become it's become a problem at recent but like Do we tell people your maga? Do you want to yeah Dave's gone MAGA full mags? And there's a there's repeating things like this. There's all the repeating language repeating it From like the 50s on up every every country for an authoritarian great again great again all these different things
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, Pete repeat repeat repeat well manga was reagan and nixon too was it it was definitely reagan i don't think reagan was great again yeah reagan was definitely it was American great again it was close yeah whatever but it is it's like and it is obviously very coded and dog-wisely of like boy ever since we, you know, let everybody vote, things have really gone to shit. Why are we gonna do? Yeah. Defeating Argentina, that was- By the way, that's the only time the Brits have beaten Argentina.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah. Oh, the hand of God's a pretty- Anyway. A little revenge. She's done with Argentina, and now she's like, it is time to defeat the enemy within unions fucking So Reagan II. Yeah, Megan says well, I think Reagan copied her more than she covered him. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:00:14 What was the other mag said unions wanted to quote destroy the free society? There are people in this country who are great destroyers. Many of these people are in the unions There are people in this country who are great destroyers. Many of these people are in the unions. So you've got deregulation, which is a terrible term if you hear it. And then the second you hear people saying that unions are the problem, also very easy to go, that is problematic language and rhetoric. The unions are people. You're just saying the workers.
Starting point is 01:00:42 You're saying the workers. Yes. And whenever a politician is telling you that the workers are the problem. That's because the politician is bought by the companies. Yeah the British soured on unions after this huge trash trash strike and then mags outlawed sympathy strikes Then she targeted the coal miners Which was the UK's strongest union and And she closed mines. Over 11,000- She's so closed-minded. Over 11,000 strikers were arrested. None of the mines ever reopened.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Simpest, so it's crazy to, because that is so similar to like, obviously what's going on. But the way that they say, protesting is okay, and yet, well yeah, but not like that. You can't. Yeah, not that way. Like, if you're, you can't have a sympathy protest.
Starting point is 01:01:31 You're not allowed to do that. That's crazy. What are you doing? Go back to work. Fuck. In 1985, Rupert renounced his Australian citizenship and became a U.S. citizen. The Fleet Street Press and printing were the second most powerful union in England. Labor costs upset Rupert.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Quote, We were paying 560 people in the press room every night. You could never find 60 of them at work at any one time. They were quite openly only working every second night, and the nights they were working, they were only half nights, that sort of thing. They were insisting on eight people for one position. I guarantee you that, well, first of all, like, okay, whatever,
Starting point is 01:02:19 maybe they weren't working their asses off, but I guarantee you that he walked in a couple times, saw something that was maybe not the normal and then just fucking lost his mind. Well, it's like he wants them all there. But like, you know, if you're talking about journalists, they're not at the fucking office. Yes. There's tons of things in the newsroom. Sometimes you work 24 hours and there's sometimes when you're not working.
Starting point is 01:02:42 But then the other thing is, is like, they want eight people for one position. Here's my response. Okay. Yeah. You have the money. You have enough fucking money. Fuckface. You have enough fucking money.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Rupert bought a warehouse space down at Wepping in London's East End. That's where Cardi B lives. He told his workers he was creating a new paper, the London Post, which was an experiment with computers. No one needed to worry, he said, but he was actually hiring a shadow workforce, many from Australia and the US, and all his papers were gonna be moved to Wapping.
Starting point is 01:03:21 On January 24th, 1986, he did a moonlight flit. He transferred everything to whapping overnight. The unions vote to go on strike. Within minutes, News Corp hands out dismissal letters to every person as they left. Fuck. The new site is known as Fortress Whapping. It is surrounded by razor wire. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Police and armed guards. Why? That's such an escalation. What do you need razor wire? For what? Because what? They're going to storm the facility? Right wingers are crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That is such an escalation. Crazy. Fortress. So 5,500 print workers were fired, and some journalists, they camp outside, trying to stop papers from being distributed. Thatcher calls it socialism in action and condemned all the strikers.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Thatcher calls it socialism in action and condemned all the strikers. She gave Rupert all the cops he needed. And that's before the strike was called. Before the strike was called, they were putting up police barriers. Because they knew, obviously, that they're going to have this retaliation. Yeah, he's done shadow workforce. He knows what he's doing. Hordes of riot cops protected Fortress Wapping for 13 months, costing the government millions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:04:52 The cops acted like Rupert's private army. One local teen was run over by a lorry and killed. Strikers were injured and arrested. In February 1987, the Indians admitted defeat. None of the strikers were reh and arrested, and in February 1987, the Indians admitted defeat. None of the strikers were rehired by News Corp. That's the worst. There has been no recognition... Do you also imagine doing 13 months of that to lose?
Starting point is 01:05:16 That is gutting. Yeah. There has been no recognized press trade union since. Other papers followed. The strikers were blacklisted and they never worked again. Fuck. For in the business. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:32 They lost their livelihoods. Quite a few lost their homes. But Rupert could now make super profits and he could use those super profits to fund his expansion in the United States. So it's one of those things where there is a good part of a bad part which is he now can at least grow this cancer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. He's in the lungs. Now the Sun is just horrifically homophobic. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:05 If gays were mentioned in the paper, the editor was berated by Rupert, quote, what's all this crap about poofters? In 1987, they ran a story about Elton John paying for sex with underage rent boys. The story was based on one sex worker who was paid for the story. Mm-hmm. The Sun Legal Department had tried to kill the story. Mm-hmm. They're like, this is, you actually shouldn't just pay a guy.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Someone, money, yeah, you need to have a cross reference. Elton sued the paper. Sure. The Sun keeps attacking him. So, the loss that happens, they go after him harder. Another paper finds out that Elton was in New York the day the red boy said they were in London together. The son then pays some random Scottish dude to get affidavits from underage sex workers
Starting point is 01:07:04 stating they had sex with Elton. So this dude comes to him and he's like, I know all these guys, they've all been fucking Elton. Pay me and I'll get the goods. Oh you 15 year old, have you ever had sex with Elton John for money? No I've not. What about this, I'll give you 50 quid.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah I know, I sucked his cock. Perfect. This is what we call journalism. News. Page three, tits. So after a while, the son realizes that they're just being scammed by this Scottish guy. Oh, they didn't know, they were not like.
Starting point is 01:07:35 No, this guy came to him and was like, I can get you a bunch of, and they just got worked. I find an entire shanty full of these little blokes. Nine, 10 years old they are. The paper's last attack on Elton said that he had removed the voice boxes from his Rottweilers to create silent assassins. Whoa, what?
Starting point is 01:07:58 Come on now. Yeah, here's the problem with that story. He doesn't have Rottweilers. Well, I mean, because they can't bark. Are you doing a sort of tree in the woods? Wow. Crazy. Now the reason that's the last story. By the way, the seed of the Inquirer is so evident now to be like, just go crazy. Go crazy. So that's the last story because right after the Sun has to print a front page apology for all their attacks on Elton and pay him one million pounds, which is the highest settlement ever for inaccuracy of claims and harassment.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Wow. But again, they probably made way more than that on the story. It's the same thing we deal with now. You have to fuck way higher. You can't make your fines so low where it's their profits. Yeah, you profits Yeah, you have a fine built into your profit margin as part of your budget Yeah, you have to deeply wound the business. Yes, you have to yes Shockingly the Sun is not great on AIDS Headline quote straight sex cannot give you AIDS official
Starting point is 01:09:02 The story said straight-skidding HIV was homosexual propaganda. Right, well you know all those homosexual papers. Yeah, a lot of gay papers. Yeah, propaganda. There's a whole gay propaganda thing. Well, I mean, yeah, think of all those gay papers that were perpetuating all that bullshit back then.
Starting point is 01:09:24 They had a doctor calling AIDS the biggest hoax of the century. Fucking. They just redid all these stories for COVID. I know, yeah. An article pushed exterminating all gay people to stop AIDS. That's a lot. That's a lot. The Sunday Times wrote of an academic
Starting point is 01:09:45 who claimed HIV didn't lead to AIDS. Boy, they really are covering a swath of bad opinions. Every HIV conspiracy theory they hit. Actually, monkeys came from AIDS. Not a lot of people are reporting that. If they get called on it, Murdoch papers would just claim they were challenging the orthodox establishment. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Right. In 1989 during a Liverpool Nottingham FA Cup soccer game at Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield there was a crush of spectators. 96 people died and 700 were injured. Now police action. did they call this AIDS Most likely from AIDS the cops before during and After the decisions they made led to death. Yeah, particularly before they made really fucking bad decisions
Starting point is 01:10:41 the Sun headline the truth, and an article stating Liverpool fans were responsible and then picked the pockets of the dead, pissed on cops and viciously attacked rescue workers. None of that happened. And it was the cops' fault. Greeting families and injured people spent decades seeking justice, and the paper was massively boycotted. The Sun eventually apologized in 2004. Rupert keeps expanding. News Corp bought the Chicago Sun Times
Starting point is 01:11:25 a 50% stake in 20th Century Fox. Oh, fuck, of course. Metro media TV stations, Harper and Rowe and William Collins plus magazines like TV Guide 17 and the Daily Racing Forum. What the fuck? I mean, I guess that's just for profit, but I mean, what are you even doing like Fonzie?
Starting point is 01:11:44 Is he too hip? It's just profit profit, but I mean, how do you even doing like Fonzie? Is he too hip? It's just profit. Yeah, that's all. He finally bought the Melbourne based Herald and Weekly Times where daddy had been a managing editor. So at this point, what year are we in? We're in 90, 89, 90. So this is where he is a public enemy and any rational government would say this has
Starting point is 01:12:12 to stop. This is a problem. This is whatever we have to do to stop this, we need to do it now because this is... If your party is largely made up of unions who back you and you see what he has done and you allow him in and to buy like crazy, you're putting a bullet to your head. I'm glad you brought the daily racing form though because they needed a takeover. Well, yeah. Yeah, I didn't like what was happening there.
Starting point is 01:12:43 But now they'll give a tip on a horse and also who to cross. Chucky's are just little boys. Okay, so, Labor government helped. This is the other thing. So we had Cuomo help him with the... The post and all the bullshit. The post. When he took over the Herald in weekly times, guess who helped him here in Australia?
Starting point is 01:13:11 The Labor government. See. After knowing what he fucking did, because they thought, they hoped Rupert would help give them positive coverage for the next election. So it is the very... They are so fucking dumb. Yes. It's the same people, it's these neoliberal,
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yes. Supposedly left. Well, and they also, they definitely think like, how do I win right now? They don't think, what is the society gonna look, well, they probably do, but they don't care about what society will look like in 20 years for the decision that they're negotiating with a Cobra yeah okay in 1990 Rupert created the satellite TV company sky in Europe with the aim to
Starting point is 01:14:00 take over British satellite TV it soon merged with a British company to become B Sky B. B Sky B? B Sky B. Rupert owned 40%. That's a terrible name. But the business is loaded with debt. So a few creditors came for their money at the same time and the company is close to collapse.
Starting point is 01:14:25 And then a woman who works at Citibank, comes to the rescue and convinces the creditors to wait. It's the same thing she'd done for a young real estate developer named Donald Trump. There's so many evil fucks that help these guys get to where they are. There's so many evil fucks in the wrong way. They need to be named. Yeah. In 1994, British writer Dennis Potter announced he was dying of cancer and that he had named his tumor Rupert.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Potter, quote, no man is more responsible for polluting the press and in turn, polluting political life. Rupert's second favorite son James drops out of Harvard to start a hip hop label, Raucus Records, which does well. It's got all these people you know. It's, it's, it's upsetting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 So News Corp bought the label for an undisclosed amount in 1998. Now what is the legality of that? Is that, that's fine? The legality is totally fine with me. Fine, okay. Yeah. And James came up into the warm embrace
Starting point is 01:15:36 of the family business, Murdoch in 1996, quote, for better or worse, News Corp is a reflection of my thinking, my character, and my values. And that is when he launched Fox News. Ugh, fuck me. The fact that we are just warming up.
Starting point is 01:15:56 That's the other part one. Ugh. Ugh. It is so upsetting. I think why these are so upsetting when it's in our time and you know about the person is because you just see 84 times where someone should have intervened and stopped and had the...
Starting point is 01:16:22 The worst thing to me is the parties are supposed to be for the working class. And in this particular case, Clinton and the Democrats watching a man annihilate the second most powerful union and then go, this will be good if we allow this guy to just roll. Exactly. So think about like Fox News is about to launch. Yeah. And think about if you're a fuck, if you're in power, think about Clinton. So you have Clinton to thank for the ability for Fox News to, and it's, and that version
Starting point is 01:16:58 exists. All, the total takeover of the right wing of all news, the Sinclair, took over the TV, that's all because Clinton got rid of the regulations that were very tight on who could own what. Media conglomeration. Yeah. Yeah. So, we'll take a shot of George doing the research. Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Main sources, Paddy Manning, the successor of the high stakes life of Lachlan Murdoch. Paddy Manning, Rupert, The Last Mogul, that's a podcast by Schwartz Media. And then Rodney Tiffin, Rupert Murdoch, a reassessment. Tom Roberts, before Rupert, Keith Murdock and the Birth of a Dynasty, The Guardian, Workers Liberty.org, TheConversation.com, FAIR.org, and then the other stuff is... Just crazy, just so upsetting. Everybody loses.
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