The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 74 - The Past Times with Dave Holmes

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

Dave Anthony picks a newspaper from a day in history and reads it to co-host Gareth Reynolds. This week they are joined again by writer, host, podcaster and many other things, Dave Holmes. Redbubble M...erch  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Look, as you probably know, I travel a lot. Too much? Sure, sure, that's fair. And on the road, if I ever have a choice between a hotel or an Airbnb, I always go Airbnb just because it's better. So for instance, when I was just on tour recently, there were a couple nights where I had off and instead of getting a hotel, I would get an Airbnb because I could have a kitchen. I like a home way over a hotel.
Starting point is 00:00:23 There's just a little bit more of a personalized experience. So whenever it's up to me, I really always go with that just because it's better. Feels like your home, you just have more amenities. But also I recently started thinking like while I'm gone, can I turn my place into an Airbnb? And the answer is yes, it can be as easy as putting your place up and then having a little more scratch generated from someone staying at my place while I'm on the road. So whether you could use a little extra money to cover some bills or for something more
Starting point is 00:00:51 fun, your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at airbnb.ca slash host. I have dollop tour dates to announce for the year 2024 of our Lord J town. We have our 10th anniversary show coming up in Los Angeles on April 27. Guests are Karen Kilgareff and James Adomian. And then we are going to Australia starting on May 13th in Perth, May 16th in Sydney, May 18th in Brisbane, May 20th in Canberra, May 22 in Melbourne and May 24 in Adelaide. You can get your tickets at dolloppodcast.com. All right, everybody, welcome to the pastimes podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Each week we go through an old newspaper from a random date in history picked up by Dave Anthony. I'm Gareth Reynolds and I've never seen it before and neither is our guest this week. Dave Holmes. Hey guys. Who, despite what I just said, also has a podcast. I do. A new one.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I do. It's such a coincidence that we all three of us love one. It's weird in this day and age. You know, when we started the dollop in 1991, it wasn't a saturated. But yours actually sounds very interesting, which is rare. Yours is called video killed the radio star. Who killed the video star? Who killed the video star? But it certainly relates to what you just said.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And it is the right. It's basically well, why don't you explain it? Because you have such great insight into this world. Okay, well, I mean, you know, I had a good seat for a lot of it, but it's kind of the story of MTV and how it, you know, how it started in the early 80s and how it became this this massive pop culture brand that sort of, you know, defined mainstream youth culture for decades, which is sort of difficult to do. And now it is sort of this zombie linear cable channel
Starting point is 00:02:54 that shows Skype fail videos all day long. Teen moms and- It's ridiculousness. It's mostly just ridiculousness. It's mostly just ridiculousness. As a matter of fact, I counted, as I was writing the most recent script and for the next six days I went through the whole MTV programming grid and for the next six days, as far into the future as I could go, they are showing ridiculousness 149 times.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And the show just got picked up. This is a bit of a spoiler, but we find out, cause we talked to Rob Dyrdek and to Shane Nickerson, who is, you know, a guy as well, who's one of the EPs. Shane is also a fan of our stuff, I should point out. He's great. Yeah, Shane's great. Yeah, he's a great guy. And they just got picked up for like,
Starting point is 00:03:39 I want to get this number right, like 2,352 more episodes. Holy fuck. to get this number right, like 2352 more episodes. Oh, because they do. They do like coming on 300 a year, like 200 something close to 300 a year. And they got picked up for five more years with an option for two more after that. It's crazy. Importantly, most importantly, they are now unionized. Yes. Yes. That's for a while. And I would I would I work in the same building as Shane and I would get in the elevator.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'd be like, how those residuals and he just be like, well, yeah, like, well, when you do 9000 episodes at that point, I feel like you're like, yeah, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. Well, the dry, dry, dry, whatever his name is, he has like a whole plan of just like being crazy rich, just leaving out the plan of taking care of people that work for you. It's going great.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah. I mean, he has got a plan for world domination. You talk about somebody who can say the word scale 15 times in any sentence, that Rob Dyrdek is. Like we talked to him and he's a fascinating guy and he's obviously very smart and he's like, he's self-assured and he's got the world on a string. But he's one of those people who just talks in this sort of young business guy jargon
Starting point is 00:04:58 that like, I really wish I knew what you were saying. Because yeah. It's weird when you feel like that. You're like, well, it seems so easy now that you're talking about it. Exactly. And the first video that MTV showed, video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star by the Buggles, famously. What a crazy little twist.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And people can get that wherever they get podcasts. Wherever they get the podcasts. Only it's exclusively at Target. That's the best place. But you also are, like I said before, I mean, some of the stuff that you write on Esquire and you are just a great follow. So people should follow you at Dave Holmes on the socials and all that bullshit. Yes, please do.
Starting point is 00:05:39 On TikTok, I'm officialJewsNewton. That's the only thing I'm not. I'm actually not going to encourage people to go there just based on. I've never posted anything. I maybe post a picture of my dog, but I haven't. I'm afraid of it. I don't know what to do there, but I feel like I should have, you know, some. Well, well, thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And Dave, I believe you did this last time, but we like to guess the year that the paper Dave Anthony has picked out. I'll go first because I'm the guest in my head. I'm gonna guess that the year will be... I'm gonna say 1926. Okay. Dave Holmes, our guest, Dave. Better day than never.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I mean, this isn't far enough in the past, but I do dream of a time when we come on here and we're looking at a newspaper from 1984. So I'm going to say that. That would be great. Oh my God. I was so close to doing that. Damn it. You know why? Because I was like, Dave Holmes would be best at like the more recent history.
Starting point is 00:06:40 He would probably kill it. But I couldn't find. But Dave didn't want to put you in a position to succeed. Right. He went with a paper from. 1888, which is similar. It's just a hundred years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That's that's when Michael J. Fox and Doc Brown were cooking in the old west. I for those of Mary Steenburgen, they came up with the Jules Verne train. The time traveled in part two, two or three? Well, three, but there's a lot. It really two and three are just one movie, in my opinion. I see. Yeah. I didn't come to those until much later. And you should have because I'll tell you what I look, however old I was.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Those came out. Boy, oh boy. Did I want to be Michael J. Fox more than anything. Can I tell you something? I like the be Michael J. Fox more than anything. Can I tell you something? I like the show, like our, this isn't even a timely reference, but like our Queen's Gambit, our, you know, whatever the show is
Starting point is 00:07:34 that like everyone's watching, our version of that in this house at this time is Family Ties on Pluto. Wow. We are binging the shit out of Family Ties on Pluto. There's a whole channel devoted to it and you can just hop in at any time. Pluto, just great stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Pluto is the best. Is Pluto good? Is it really? Oh my God, are you not up on Pluto? I'm not up on Pluto, but I'm looking for new things. Well, let me tell you something. They have hundreds of choices for you. It's free to add to them.
Starting point is 00:08:02 You're getting some of this. I'm not, I'm not. But can I tell you something? I wanna work for them so bad. I wanna curate a channel for them so free. You're getting some of this. I'm not, I'm not. But can I tell you something? I want to work for them so bad. I want to curate a channel for them so bad. Who knows, maybe. You know, Scott, Scott Gimple and I did do, we like took over their Instagram for a night
Starting point is 00:08:15 and we like played a night of 90s movies on their 90s movies channel. Oh wow. And like, and we're on their Instagram live. I mean, you getting a Pluto channel is a no brainer. Wow, you know, maybe this is how we start, but it's so they have, they've devoted to a bunch of old shows,
Starting point is 00:08:30 Family Ties being one of them, Three's Company, you know, things of that nature, Dynasty, The Love Boat. But then there's, you know, just old bad dating shows. There's, you know, old nineties and eighties game shows. They have studs on demand. They have two seasons of studs on demand, which include the one that Ron Goldman was a contestant on. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Wow. What about having that guy? Yeah, well, that's a bit of a story. That's what takes some explaining. Been a recent twist as well. There has been a bit of a twist, and which, you know, is, it is it's official will never know what happened No, no
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, no, and he spent his whole life trying to find out who did it and just mm-hmm. It wasn't someone golfing That's what we know. No, definitely not wasn't a good. What's your skin regimen right now? Because we got to get into the podcast tight. You're glowing. Okay, we got to get into the pod. You're tight, you're glowing. Dave, we gotta get into the podcast. Seriously, what are you doing? Is it peptides? I don't know what a peptide is, but I do know what retinol is. Nobody knows what a peptide is, but I just, but you would, okay, are you doing retinol?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah, I'm doing retinol, yeah. Great, and oymets, a lot of oymets? A lot of, I basically, I'm with an apothecary, and just, it's a lot of, you know, bird feather mulch and, you know, poo masks. It's a whole thing. This is actually a lot of, yes, absolutely. Yeah, you know, I have, yeah, I even have a cauldron that I'm working with a real bubble
Starting point is 00:09:57 bubble toil in trouble. But Dave, we're not here for that. Okay. Dave, why don't you read from your silly paper, whatever this is. I forget what show this is. Dave, your skin looks great too. It's just, Dave, don't do this. It's not as it's not as well. Maybe the difference, maybe you just always been tight and so, you know, it's, it's just look good. Dave's loose. Uh, well, you know, just carrot, you know, if you just, you look good. So I'm saying, Steve, stop it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Thank you. Don't mean to indicate that you looked bad before, but it, but it is what Dave, when we were startling, when we were hanging there, I definitely things were, the wheels were falling off for a while. There was a lot of drinking. Well, I mean, it was, we performed in a bar. It didn't help things. Did not help things.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Did not help things, certainly didn't. Well, speaking of drinking in bars. Yes. Hey, Vance, sorry. No. Chicago Tribune, Sunday, November 4th, 1888. Great place, in 1888, Chicago. I spent a winter there in 2015,
Starting point is 00:11:04 trying to get a draft of my book done because I wasn't doing anything here and I was like I need to go somewhere where I don't know that many people and it's deadly to go outside. So I spent a couple months in a friend's attic apartment in Logan Square. It was great. I loved it. Have you lived there? I never lived there. No. Dave? From Milwaukee. No I spent I spent some time there like on tours. I would always sort of end up in Chicago for a couple of weeks breaks and stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:31 So, yeah. OK. But I love it. You know, I'm not buying it. Go ahead. Anyway, Southern Democrats alarmed. Well, this could go either way. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is 1888. You don't want the Southern Democrats alarmed. They're still alarmed either way, right? Yeah. It is 1888. You don't want the Southern Democrats alarmed.
Starting point is 00:11:47 They're still alarmed, by the way. They never stopped that. They are still along and trying to be like, we will just give us a chance. A sudden but unmistakable cry of alarm comes from the Southern, sorry, the Democratic camp in South Carolina. The situation there appears so serious
Starting point is 00:12:07 that the Charleston News and Courier and its political leader in yesterday's issue says, quote, the political situation in South Carolina is serious enough to challenge the attention of every honest and patriotic citizen and to arouse every Democratic voter to the fullest discharge of his duty to the party and the state.
Starting point is 00:12:30 It's always the end of the world, isn't it? It was always the end of the world. It's like, it's always unprecedented times. Also, I don't think arouse is one of those words that you just, it's over. But arouse means one thing. Someone's getting hard or someone's getting wet. It's one of the two. Yeah just it's over. But Rouse means one thing. Someone's getting harder. Someone's getting wet.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It's one of the two. You throw a discharge in there and you cannot be throwing tossing discharges around when you're talking about a rouse. No, no. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I mean, and this is the 1880s. So you write those two things in a paper. There's a good chance a guy was jacking off to those two words.
Starting point is 00:13:01 That was enough. That was all we had back then. That was you looked at the word arouse. You look at the word around a discharge. You're like, all right, I'm going to that house for a number four. Oh, wow. A deep, a deeper cut. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:18 God damn. It's easy. This does, it does seem like, did you see this show years and years? No. Is it on Pluto? No, it's on Apple. Probably. But it was on, yeah, it was on Apple or HBO or something.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And it's, you know, it's a tough watch. But one of the characters in it says something to the effect of, we were all born during a pause. Like it's just, the world's always fucking falling apart. But if you're around our age, if you came of age in the 70s and 80s, in America, certainly, you could sort of feel like, oh, no, everything's actually fine.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But no, it was just a little bit of a pause. People were, you know, clearly the end of the world would continue a pace. I mean, I always, I always say that the 90s was like a Coke party that everyone was just having fun and going crazy. And then 2000 hit and all of a sudden the sun was up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And then ever since then, it's been not. It's been, yeah, kind of the way the world is. And the solution is more coke, I've learned. Yes. Yeah, that's probably. It'll become night before you know it. Plow through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah. Shovel that driveway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As it were. The spell that has seized upon the people must be broken. If we would hold our place in the democratic ranks and preserve to our children the priceless benefits of good government. Well, there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I will note that we don't know what's wrong yet. We don't. True. Fair, fair, fair point. There is a danger in the air. The Republicans, with a vigilance that knows no sleeping, are on the move. They intend, yeah. They intend, if possible, to capture at least two of the congressional districts and to pull their full strength for the Republican electoral ticket.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Wow. So this is like literally could be printed now. Yeah, today. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Because they're not saying anything specific whatsoever. No, but I am scared. I am already like, boy, we can't let those Republicans do that. Yeah. Although this is 1888 and so a southern Democrat is probably.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah. Like racist as hell. Oh, yeah. No, they're this is this is when they're about to sort of end any reconstruction like possibilities. Yeah. Yeah. They intend, if possible, to capture our said that they have taken. Heart of our indifference, our divisions or our overconfidence. And there is good reason to feel that they will pull a heavier vote next Tuesday than any election since 1876.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Surely the Democrats of South Carolina have caused to be alarmed. I think it sounds like the most important election of their lifetime. Absolutely. It sounds like democracy. It doesn't. I think it might be. I think it might be whichever specific way this is. Yep. So it is a Democrat saying that there are people within the party who will work with the Republican party.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. The, the Democratic party they're saying is divided and infighting and also what might work with the Republicans. If you can imagine that happening. Right, who were at the time the more progressive of the two parties. The Republicans, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's hard to, it's just hard. It's real. It is hard. That switch is wild. It's like vice versa. Like they just like held the vase during a lightning storm and we're like, but you wish you had my party. Yeah. We got to where we are now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 The clothes don't fit. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The newspapers of the state, almost without exception, realized the danger and warned the people with no uncertain sound of the urgent necessity resting upon every Democratic voter to cast his ballot November 6th. Yes. So the people aren't going to turn. I mean, that's basically what they're saying is like the our candidates
Starting point is 00:17:35 suck and the people aren't going to turn out. This is the usual, you know, that stuff. Yeah. Classic. Yeah. How did it turn out? Do we know? The 188 election. Do you want me to jump in and handle this, David? You want to look at that? Nope. You want to? Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Let's. Okay, go ahead. You got it. Go ahead. If you got it up. But I could just tell you otherwise. Oh, go ahead, Garrett. I can't, dude. My whole.
Starting point is 00:18:01 My. Benjamin. Benjamin Harrison, the Republican crushed Gro Grover Cleveland, a Democrat. But then again, this is when the, you know, you've got the Grover Cleveland is from the North. He's from New York and now we're talking about Southern Democrats and the whole thing's just untenable for them to work out their issues. Okay. Yeah. And this made it all the way up to Chicago. Yeah. We're talking about all the way to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Oh, yeah. The Lord gives and takes away. It's a funny follow up. Yeah. Yeah. Is that I feel like that's is that the comic strip? Yes. I just want it to be like the hand of God with like some command some stone tablets in it. Yeah, it's what it's a single panel. Yeah, it's a single man.
Starting point is 00:18:54 There's just one guy like Phil. He's like, oh God. Oh, reports the death of his child. A man named William Schussler came into the West North Avenue station the other day and reported the death of his daughter, two years old. She's just so nice. This happens, Garrett. This I know. But it happens a lot. Yeah, that's why I'm like, why are we highlighting this? Like, I would imagine every train someone's like, well, my boys are dead.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's the accent. Death Sergeant Patton expressed his regret that the doctor had not been able to save her. The doctor exclaimed Schussler, there has been no doctor. I will never allow a doctor in my house again. Fair. I think we're seeing the problem. The problem is now apparent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Well. It was a Christian science kind of a situation. The problem was apparent. Thank you. Bing, wordplay. Thank you. Is, was there a religious objection to, um, Madison?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Let's see. They are, uh, well then they were all kinds of objections, uh, and some of it reasonably. I was just gonna say like doctors like, let me get a little of this horse poo on my hand and then I'll put it in your stomach. Oh, right. Right. Okay. We're past leaching, but we're not, we're not, we're not out of the woods.
Starting point is 00:20:23 This is when they still were like, you want germs in you that helps. Okay. We're past leeching, but we're not we're not we're not out of the woods This is when they still were like you want germs in you that helps. Yeah They are of no use in any case and I know it sir from my experience I once yielded against my wishes and my reason and permitted a doctor to enter the room where one of my children was sick. He wiped his bald head with a handkerchief, looked wise and prescribed one of his nauseous drugs. I gave my child some and immediately grew worse and died. Never again will I interfere with the Lord.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Oh, you know, you're right. It is a Christian. Yeah, it's a Christian. Okay, two dead kids, that's rough. It's rough for sure. But I don't know why we got to bring the guy's bald head into it. That seems a little out of line. Well, that's a sign of...
Starting point is 00:21:12 He's freshly hurting. Yeah. But that's also a sign of like, I am very, very elite. You wipe your head with the... Yep. Okay. You know what? I don't...
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'm sure this is all from memory. This is all like somebody telling the story the way that they remember it and whatever, but I don't, I'm sure this is all from memory. You know, this is all like somebody telling the story the way that they remember it and whatever, but I don't like, OK, so I walk in somewhere to tell you that my child is dead. Are you honestly going to say, I am sorry, the doctor couldn't save her? I mean, that's it's a weird first thing. And then for him to be like the doctor. Yes, it is a strange stilted.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It just doesn't feel like it got punched up for the time. It does. It does. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It just feels unlike most biblical stories. This one feels a bit off to me a little bit. Yeah. Apocryphal, perhaps. Yeah. This has this has a little like my five year old said that democracy is the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:22:11 My daughter walked into the kitchen and said, Ruth, Conda forever. Conda forever. God almighty. Did that make me want to move to a non English speaking country and live in a tree? It was it was the greatest. I actually remember checking her Twitter recently and it's still private. Oh, wow. Not ready yet.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh, no, no. Nor will she ever be. She shouldn't be. No, no, no, no. Ruth, no, the best, the best. No, it's the best tweet ever. No. The only thing worse, it's the best tweet ever. No, the only thing worse than then like inventing that scenario is the idea that it might be
Starting point is 00:22:50 true. I don't even like if what a creepy way to raise a horrible job you've done. If that happens in your home, if your five year old knows who Ruth Bader Ginsburg is, fuck you. Sorry, Ruth. No, no, it's it might be what Twitter was its best. Yeah. Oh, man. You know what?
Starting point is 00:23:13 When? Oh, well, OJ dying. That could that had such potential to be a great day. It was still pretty good. It was good, but it was like, if he won. I mean, he won. He did it. Yeah. Yeah, he did it. Yeah. Yeah, he did it. You know, Ron Goldman punched it in again. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I can't take that away from you. I can't wait to see it. I will watch that. Never again will I interfere with the Lord by great by the grace of God. The children are born and when he requires them, they die. Of what use are physicians? Yep. Good. Good. Good. Again, I don't buy this dialogue. I agree. It's a bit.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yes. And this feels like a one panel comic. You're not wrong. Yeah. To Lord Giveth. Oh, did you see today's Lord Giveth? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Barn cubicle. Real good. Real touching one. Funny as hell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Real funny. Good stuff. Uh, what do you, sir? I want you, sir. Physicians. No doctor shall enter my house. Never, sir. Never, sir.
Starting point is 00:24:15 While I have power to forbid. Schussler is a laborer and lives at number 904 Northwood Street. An officer was sent to the house and the dead child was found there. From appearances, from appearances, she probably fell a victim to diphtheria. The coroner's request was held Friday and the usual verdict of sudden death was found. So she died of death. Yeah. She death got her. That's the dip theory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That she the death cooker. And I guess why would you need a doctor? Honestly, so far from what I've heard, I'm almost on his side. Yeah. Doctor to me doesn't sound like there was much going on. Right. They would be like, OK, so I'm thinking heroin and cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. Here, let's give you five year old some vomit tablets. Well, that's the end of that.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Oh, boy. Yeah. Enjoy the rest of the train ride. That should be a bit weird. That's a shame, though. It is a bow. Yeah. Did he have other kids? Did 100% of his kids die? I'm I'm going to get another kid die.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah, I'm going to guess he had other kids, too. Back then, I like eight or nine. You just that's how you went. You wanted to keep three or four. You had eight or. Yes, exactly. Yeah. And then every now and then someone would be like, God damn it. They all lived. We're poor as fuck. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's Lord.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's the Lord. You give us. And sometimes you wish he would take away. I mean, that'd be nice if this guy would take us. Yeah, that's the that's the collection. Sometimes you wish you would take us away. And like in the main guy is like is like take it away. That's a Pluto show, right? Sometimes I wish he would take it away.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Well, we gave him a bunch and now they can't make lunch. That's it. Lord better take it away. Oh, wow. It's starring a young Norman fell. Look, as you probably know, I travel a lot too much. Sure. Sure. That's fair. And on the road, if I ever have a choice between a hotel or an Airbnb, I always go Airbnb just because it's better. So for instance, when I was just on tour recently, there were a couple nights where I had off and instead of getting a hotel, I would get an Airbnb because I could have a kitchen, I like a home way over a hotel.
Starting point is 00:26:41 There's just a little bit more of a personalized experience. So whenever it's up to me, I really always go with that just because it's better. It feels like your home, you just have more amenities. But also, I recently started thinking like while I'm gone, can I turn my place into an Airbnb? And the answer is yes, it can be as easy as putting your place up and then having a little more scratch generated from someone staying at my place while I'm on the road. So, whether you could use a little extra money to cover some bills or for something more fun, your home might be worth more than you think.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Find out how much at airbnb.ca slash host. More soup meat is recommended. Oh, fuck it, eh? What a great one. More soup meat. Already a great headline. Yes. is recommended. Fuck it. What a great one. More soup already a great headline is recommended. Yes. OK. OK. The October the October grand jury was discharged by Judge Collins yesterday acting on the recommendation of the judge. A committee of jurors visited the House of Correction Friday and Saturday.
Starting point is 00:27:47 In its report, the committee spoke highly of the clungliness of the workshops and the manner in which they were heated and ventilated. Interesting start. Yeah. The discipline was found to be excellent and the conduct of the officials was commended some disfattas dissatisfaction was found among the younger prisoners as to the quality of the food, especially the soup and the meat. Imagine this time when prisoners were people like,
Starting point is 00:28:16 well, we should probably give them a little bit more instead of now. We're like, you'll eat shoe rubber. 100 percent. And you go one another. Yeah. And each other, yeah. So wait, so it was more soup, meat is recommended? Soup, yes. Oh, the comma's big there. No, especially the soup and meat.
Starting point is 00:28:35 No, it's just soup and meat, there's no comma. Well, but they're still, they're not saying meat up the soup. Yeah, they're saying meat up the soup. They're saying meat in the soup. I think they're saying meat up the soup. Oh, are they saying meat up the soup. I think they're saying meat up the soup. Oh, are they saying meat up the soup? The committee recommended more soup meat.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Wow. OK. So they really are going with the weirder version. Yeah. Why not give them their own meat and let them decide if they'd like to include it in the broth? How about a soup course and a meat course? I think that's very nice. Yes. But instead, they're just like, no, you put it all together. Yeah. And more meat and more meat the more wet meat. Yes
Starting point is 00:29:09 hot wet meat Yes The only industries from which revenue was derived were found to be brick making and cane Seeding what so they're so they're the prisoners have to work to crank out money. Well, yeah, that's why they need more meat in their soup. The cells were reported as overcrowded and poorly ventilated. Weird up above they said that it was nicely ventilated, but okay. The committee recommended that boilers be immediately placed in the new addition so
Starting point is 00:29:43 that it may be occupied. Okay, there you go, that's the story. Okay. It sounds like the end of the Pink Floyd song, The Wall, where it's like, how can you have any soup unless you go to have more meat? You just do whatever it was with your canes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Okay, long ago, I took a cooking class in like in Hollywood. You know that old building that looked like the Hamburglar on La Cienega? So I took a cooking class in like in Hollywood. You know that old building that looked like the Hamburglar on La Cienega? Yeah. Like this weird black and white stripe building. I took a cooking class in there. And during one of my classes, they were like, if you could stay after a TV crew is coming in,
Starting point is 00:30:18 like the whole class, they were like, you know, they want to like a TV crew is coming in. They want to talk to like people in a cooking class. And so they did. And it was, I think it was Fox News. And so they came in and they were like, we're doing a segment on neutral loaf, which is like the new it food in Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:30:36 It's like, it's got all the nutrients that you need and whatever. All like, the young celebrities are all in neutral. Eating neutral loaf. Woody Harrelson only does neutral love. Only neutral love. And so they like served it to all of us and got all of our thoughts.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Wow. And in my head, I was like, this is not as it seems. There's gonna be, they're gonna do a switcheroo. You know what I mean? Like this is not as simple as they're doing. Whatever. So I was like, nah, it's not my thing, whatever. There was an older guy in the class and he was like, this is not it.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I'll tell you, this is never going to be it. This food is not it. I've been around a while. This is not it. And so whatever, he fucking went on forever. And then, and then of course the switch route did come. And what it is, is that neutral loaf is actually what they're feeding prisoners in certain prisons because it is a loaf that just Gives you the bare minimum of all the nutrients that you need like taste to it. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:31:33 No, we've we've got back to the 1800s. That is what that is. Yeah, the fucking explorers would take out It's exactly like we've gone all the way back. That's what they used to feed them Yeah, and so so they so they then went around again. They're like, does that change how you feel about it? And the guy next to me was like, well, it's not, this isn't it. This is never gonna be it. Like he was like a dog with a bone.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I was gonna say, whatever lesson you've taught in that has been overshadowed by I don't. Isn't it, man? Yeah, I don't. I don't know that they. Isn't it? This is not it. It's not it. A mother's pathetic search for the remains of her son. He's right. Leave her alone. What that ex-sirge?
Starting point is 00:32:22 What an asshole. This is from St. Paul. A touching scene occurred at the Sherman House before the Indians left. Oh, crikey. What a time. Miss Catherine McLaughlin of Galesburg came to St. Paul a few days ago to await the return of the Indians. Miss McLaughlin lost a son in the Custer Massacre, and her earnest desire is to recover his remains. OK. Yeah. Well, I mean, we empathize.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But and and we know that every every child that the white people killed was given back to the Native Americans. So it feels like it's only fair. Yes. If her back, she won her remains back. Give them back. Yeah. They gave it to her. She's like, this ain't it. These are not. This is not. Oh, you something. OK, so so the Indians left.
Starting point is 00:33:24 She particularly. particularly coming back. She particularly desired to question Sitting Bull, whom she regarded as directly responsible for. We get in the fucking sit down with Sitting Bull Lady. What you that's not how this works. That's like it's like maybe like I want to talk to Biden. This is this is the Cindy Sheehan of this general custom. Wow. What general custom. Wow
Starting point is 00:33:47 What a pull Wow The Indians were seated in a row waiting for the time to arrive Wow, I maybe it says something else. It's kind of blurry You've been drinking a little bit haven't you I have been drinking also To arrive when they should depart with the exception of the bull who stood with his face between his hands. Sitting bull? Pressed against the glass.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Crying bull, different. In one of the doors gazing out upon the street. Okay, so he's just looking out the window basically. Okay. Sitting bull is. Yes, it's sitting bull. We call him the bull? I guess they call him the bull.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Wow. But that makes sense. It's like Nightcord. That's kind of fun, I like that. Nightcord on Pluto, by the way. If he was an Australian, they'd call him Bully. Bully. It's like the page six calling Monica Lewinsky the portly pepper pot.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Like, was that like a... Oh, Christ. Yeah. This newspaper has fun little nicknames for the newsmakers of the moment. Jesus Christ. Alex the Bloviator Baldwin, they call him. I'm actually down with that one.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I'm okay with that one. Wait, what is the Monica Lewinsky one again? The Portly Pepper Pot. All through that scandal and beyond. Any time she was mentioned in page six. Sometimes they wouldn't even use her name. that scandal and beyond. Any time she was mentioned in page six, sometimes they wouldn't even use her name. They would just say the Portland Pepperpot and you wouldn't know. Terrible?
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah, terrible. We're the worst. Oh, the worst. Oh, God. As Miss McLaughlin approached the hotel, she caught sight of him, and though she had never seen him, immediately identified him with the remark,
Starting point is 00:35:28 there he is, that is the man. Wow. She walked, however, directly to John Grass with the passionate appeal, where is my son? Grass gazed at her in amazement. Her entry was sudden, and her question was incomprehensible to him, both from its language and its import.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Okay, so it's a Native American dude, doesn't know what the fuck she's saying. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like yelling at him. She repeated her inquiry just as interpreter Priemu came up. Her companion explained to him the object of her search. Grass could give her no information. So she turned away and walked up to the bull
Starting point is 00:36:10 with the same question. Wow. Bull understands no English and looked at her staldedly. Staldedly? Okay. She repeated her cry, bursting into tears. Bull only shrugged his shoulders and walked over to another window,
Starting point is 00:36:26 resumed his former attitude. Wow. He's like, yeah, I don't care, crying white lady. You guys are destroying our land. Yeah, destroyed our land. And yeah, he was very much like, I mean, I don't understand her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah, that's fine. What's he supposed to do? I don't know. Yeah, he doesn't know what to say, but he's not going to comfort her. It's the enemy. Yeah. I mean, he's a portly pepper pot. He's a portly pepper pot. Sorry, my dogs. My dog just got activated by something very strong. Do not worry. There are many times on this podcast and our other podcasts
Starting point is 00:37:03 where Dave will have three dogs losing their shit. So it's built, feel no shame. Okay. It's a thing. It's a thing here. You are an unfeeling brutal murderer, exclaimed Mrs. McLaughlin and sadly left the hotel. Aw. I mean, it's sad, but it's also, he doesn't speak English.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Right. Yeah, this was not, this was doomed from the start. Let's make the point. Doesn't care. Like these are the people taking away the land. He doesn't. Oh, come on. I listen for a minute. I was on his side. But get over it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 We said we said how many times do we have to say we're sorry once? Well, we can't do that. Well, we're never we won't. So we can't over it. Yeah. Get over it. Yeah. Yeah. How about zero? Yeah. How about zero? How about zero? Apology for being such pricks about it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, come on. You're telling me we're the ones who looked at this beautiful land
Starting point is 00:37:56 and saw all the Arby's potential. Yeah. Crying at the litter. Yeah. Feel bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crying at the litter. Yeah. Feel bad. Yeah. Yeah. I'm starting to get pissed. Yeah. She will call on Major McLaughlin today. The latter remembers her son as a member of the seventh. Calvary, his remembrance being strengthened by the fact
Starting point is 00:38:18 that his name was the same as his own. I remember that guy had my name. Wait, it was the same as who? Major McLaughlin is the same as McLaughlin. So that's why he remembers the guy. He's like, I remember him. That's my name. She's like, that's not helpful. He says, however, that there is no possibility of her identifying her son's remains as the unfortunate victims of that terrible affair were in most cases so mutilated
Starting point is 00:38:45 that identification was impossible and the bodies were buried in a common grave. Well then just show her a few arms. I want someone to explain that to her calmly as she's, you know. Miss, miss, what you're not understanding is that even if we got the remains of your son here, you wouldn't be able to identify him.
Starting point is 00:39:01 He was brutally beaten and chopped into so many pieces. Died in such pain. They and the word to a million pieces before he lost consciousness. And they went ankle up. So he felt everything. Mm hmm. He's he's soup meat now. Yeah, he's not he is now he is now. That's what we should do.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I OK, so this is something that like if if my if a family member of mine dies, I'm just upset they died. I don't know your daddy. I don't need the body. I don't need the body. I agree. I don't want that part. I want someone else to do that part. I remember when my grandpa died for whatever. I just it was suddenly I was like 13 or 14 and suddenly I was looking at his body and
Starting point is 00:39:48 I was like, why did this happen? Yeah. It's not you. So I wakes are probably not something we're going to do. I don't even like the term wake. Yeah. Unless if they stay dead, let's call it what it is. A sleep, a gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'll be right back. I like actually awake, but I don't want my remains to be there. That's right. I like wakes. I think wakes are awesome. But what's going on? I go to wakes all the time. I just, I crash them. They call me the wake-crasher. No. And I'll just crash wakes. Also, you can get like a wake border. Dave, the wake border.
Starting point is 00:40:25 He does like the water. So this works. It goes right on board awake. I believe there's a Pluto channel for that. Dave Anthony is the wake border. That ran on spike for a few years and they do. They do have the rights to that. So that you have 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yeah, I don't. It's that shit is real spooky and weird and I don't like it's, that shit is real spooky and weird and I don't like it. And no one ever looks like they looked. No. Like, you know, like when my dad had his wake, he looked like Milton Berle and it was like, and now I'm bummed out a different way,
Starting point is 00:40:55 which I don't really need to be. You don't want the last image of someone you love to be incongruent with who you loved. And that feels like what those things do. The mortician is fighting an uphill battle to, I mean, they don't know, they didn't hang out. No, no. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:12 And it's just, yeah, it's, you know, that is a, I'm happy to see that sort of fall by the, that industry kind of fall by the wayside. The wayside, yes. The wayside, exactly. Thank you. Thanks, the skin looks waxy, it's just, I don't. You're talking about mine, right?
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's the- No, yours looks absolutely dewy. Thank you, thank you Dave, good luck. Charged with being a common scold. Do you know what this is? It sounds like someone's guilty of rapscallionism. Yeah. Maybe I'll do a dollop about this. Philadelphia, George Dean, a wiry old fellow
Starting point is 00:41:53 with a decided brogue pleaded guilty in the new courthouse to blasphemy. Dean is also under indictment as a common scold. Sentence will be imposed when the other charge is heard. What does any of that mean? What does a common scold. Sentence will be imposed when the other charge is heard. What does any of that mean? What is a common scold, Dave? Okay, so I'll look up the precise definition, but basically it was mostly a way to, okay,
Starting point is 00:42:16 it's a person who constantly nags, argues, or complains in a loud and annoying way. And so they were punished as they made it illegal, like disturbing the peace kind of person. But mostly, obviously you can understand how this would be used against women, right? Yes. Sure. And like most things, I was like,
Starting point is 00:42:34 oh, that's good, you get rid of assholes. And then quickly like, this could be the wrong hands. This can be horrible without question. Yeah, it's never gonna be the worst scolds who get punished for being scolded. Actually, it's probably the worst scolds who are in charge of it. Yes, yeah. It's never gonna be the worst scolds who get punished for being scolds. Actually, it's probably the worst scolds who are in charge of it. Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:49 When McCarthy was just like, we got a lot of people who hate America. It's like, no, you're doing the, oh fuck. You're, yeah. Oof. I have to hold myself back at all times from being a grammar and punctuation and spelling scold. Yes, I do too, are you are very good.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I do that. I mean, there's nothing my favorite thing to do. And Dave Anthony and I go back and forth on this. But if someone is a lunatic and they give you the wrong, you're I just am like, no, allow me to end the debate with a double. Yeah. Oh God. Just two asterisks and a Y-O-U-R, you mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:34 How, how has, how, how don't people know that? The only reason now that you need to do it is it's just the easiest way to get ownership over an online argument. So you just should. I think people just I would imagine most people know, but I think it just auto corrects or whatever to the wrong you're and they don't notice it. I'm afraid I'm not accepting that.
Starting point is 00:43:56 No. Yeah. Look at what you are putting out into the world before you put it out in the world. I'm sorry. Your name is on it. Yep. And it's again, if you're having an argument where you're trying to sound intelligent and you go at the wrong, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:44:06 or the log there, I'm afraid I will come at you with that. But it's, it also happens like in written, you know. Yeah, yes. Like when people would write notes and whatever, it's just they don't know it, and I just don't understand it. Like that's a really basic thing. When I used to be on dating apps,
Starting point is 00:44:24 a turnoff would be the wrong yore. I'd be like, oh God. I don't love this. Oh no, that's, basic thing. When I used to be on dating apps, a turn off would be the wrong yore. I'd be like, oh God, I don't love this. Oh no, that's- I mean, I'd still go out with them, you know, on the dirt bag, but you know what I mean. You get it. Yeah, that's immediate dismissal. Like, and in fact, you know, even in just texting,
Starting point is 00:44:39 where it is kind of, you know, low impact communication, misspellings, it's like like I hold onto it, man. Well, we are true, Dave, you and I are on a text chain where there's someone we follow and they don't know that we follow them and we really love to criticize their grammar. Oh boy, do we ever.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, what a nightmare. The scenario that we are in, I mean, the guy who it's about, boy, do we ever. Oh, what a nightmare. The scenario that we are in. I mean, the guy who it's about, fuck him. Fuck. And right here. I'm right fucking here. Oh, hey, man. It's that white guy. Oh, shit. Wow. But that is my worst nightmare. You know, it's so he deserves it. But it's I know.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I know. And I and I really do think we probably all are the subject of a group text. Maybe. Oh, yeah. But I don't think that I would hope that I don't have what this is. Because we are it is the pylon brigade. It's oh, but you know, there are group texts about me and my pronunciations. Like, you know, it's probably maybe. I'm on a couple about you. They're great. Oh. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I mean, you know what I mean? Because the one where we talk about the surfing is fun. It's a fun one. And I get that. It has its own notification set. That's a fun one. So it really is great. And the guts sometimes I just dip in there for a good gift for another group. But we've really get the shit out of that room. It's the gift that keeps on. I won't.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Go ahead, Dave. another group, but we've really get the shit out of that room. It's the gift that keeps on, I won't. Go ahead, Dave. Martha Secaris, a charming young lady who won the first prize in the beauty show of Spa has received within the last week, no less than 100 and odd offers of marriage from bankers and young scions of English titled aristocracy. There are 10 marquises and a dozen counts and viscounts.
Starting point is 00:46:35 What's a viscount? In the field. What? Viscount. The S is not pronounced? Yeah. Or is it? Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Viscount, what is a vicount? I don't know, but I know it's pronounced like that. I never heard that. I'm gonna fake pile on and say duh. In the field for the ladies' hand. So this lady won a beauty contest, and everyone's like, oh, take that one! What's her name? Martha Sucrits.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Martha Sucrits? Who cares, might be Sucrits. It's like a British Baron, basically, a Viscount. A Viscount is like a British Baron? Or a Viscount. Is that less than a Baron? I don't know. I'm not comfortable with dipping it in.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I don't know the rankings. I don't like you pushing back pretending now like you're going to be like, is it better than a... Dave, you don't know anything. What is a baron? Do you know what's above a baron? Yeah, polar bears. Okay, we're good.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And okay, so this is classic man. Just a woman is attractive, wins something, and then every guy just like... It's very much like Planet Earth. When you'd watch Planet Earth and like four birds would be competing for the one bird is looking for a mate. So that's essentially what it is here. These guys are just going, well, I have access to a vault.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And she's like, oh, my God. Yeah, it is. It is sliding into the DMS. I mean, yes, it is. I'm a tar magnet. Yeah. What was the pageant? A. It was a page magnet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was the pageant? Uh, it was the pageant of spa. I said the pageant of spa, which doesn't really.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's great. I don't. Yeah. I don't know. She maybe just got made over. I whatever it was that we know that you couldn't reveal much. And we know that that didn't matter because men were so horny. Right. Yeah. Horny and lonely. Horny and lonely. And wealthy. And some are wealthy, yes. And like we said before, probably whacking it to discharge
Starting point is 00:48:32 and arousal in the newspaper. Okay. Alright. Let's try... I'll tell you what. My nipples are hard. Okay. Well, nobody's else. Well, I'm just saying. You don't know that. They are a little bit, actually. Yeah. I don't think you're allowed to just sort of assume Like Dave said he's got a little he's showing his turkeys his turkeys cooking as we like to say
Starting point is 00:48:55 Chest turkeys are yeah. Look, he's got a couple bites showing with the boys are having a little fun Dave Good Lord The lunatics of Great Britain. Is that a bad? That's guilty. Great Britain is worrying about the rapidly increasing number of its lunatics. Well, this could apply to today as well. Yes. Yes. No doubt. It appears that those supported by the government alone have grown to seventy five thousand. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Oh, so lunatics are locked up. They're locked up. Oh, right. OK, right. Right. They're wards of the state or whatever. Right. Yeah. It is attributed to the hurry of modern life. Those who attribute it to that have doubtless never seen Chicago or any other live American town where everybody hurries in a way that the Englishmen have no idea of. USA.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Where few are insane. USA, baby. Oh, so this is an editorial. Yeah. About how we're better. Yeah. Because we're busy. We shake it off.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah. We give a fuck. Oh, are we mentally ill? We don't care. We're going to go right to work. Whatever. Ever been to Chicago, dickhead? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Is it mentally ill to work a couple of hours a day? No. Yeah. We push it. Our kids die on trains. Is that so wrong? Brothers held to the grand jury, August Spruce and Charles Spruce, the two brothers who attacked Edward Dreaks in the hallway of the house at number 1050 West 20th Street Friday evening. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Were each held to the criminal court in thousand dollar bonds. Wow. Dreaks received a cut on the hand, four inches long, and a stab, which broke the bone in the head. Holy shit, lead with that one first of all. That's the, that is the star. That's the one. They cut through his skull and they're like, the hand was really gushing.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Also his brain was punctured. Whoa. Broke the, bent the blade, bent the blade of the knife. Holy shit. Well, that's what we have the skull for. It's really, you know, the brain shield. That's rough. I like that it's, they've just used his full address
Starting point is 00:51:13 just in case anybody wants to go and wrap this job up. They always did that. Oh, until the 1970s they did it. Do you guys know about the eveninging World in St. Louis? No. It was a newspaper that started, I wanna say in like the 50s or 60s. Yeah, the world.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And for a while it was the St. Louis World Examiner, but then it was just the evening world. And it was black owned and it was kind of pro cop. So it was like, it was stories of crime that were going on in like majority black neighborhoods of St. Louis. And a lot of the stories were written in rhyme. And, and like, and the addresses were always used. And so there was a whole section for domestic abuse. It was the wife beaters and sweetheart mistreaters section. The rhyming is...
Starting point is 00:52:14 It was crazy. I'll send you like, there's like an archive online, but you know, on the 2400 block of bus, they did Fume and Fuss. Oh, that guy was like, Jesus Christ, I'm really punching this murder up. This is dark. Yeah, it's something else. You might read it. It looks like they might lose their daughter, but that's life when you're dealing with manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:52:37 How are we? Yeah. And then sometimes the ones that weren't written in rhyme, it would tell the story of a crime that wasn't rhyme. Wow. But it would tell the story of like, you know, a shooting on the 2400 block of, you know, King's Highway. Oh my. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:56 It would just say, oh my, in the middle of the story. They're like, we gotta get moving. There is some valuable information we gotta get out. So we'll just go with an oh my. How now? There was a lot of how now as well. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a classic Yeah, also, I'll send you a link to the world archive the next time you're on Dave sneak that in. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah
Starting point is 00:53:13 An artery in his throat was cut and his left arm was badly bruised Here comes here comes ready. They cut his throat and hit his skull and this guy led with hand Ready for it. They had all been drinking. Oh, well, sure. OK. Well, I thought we had a problem for a minute, but of course they were. It's just lunatics. Yes. Did they say what did they say for how long was? No. And the guy did the guy die.
Starting point is 00:53:41 No, he's alive. Wow. And a. Good for him. Thirsty. Yeah. Yeah, it was three guys party and they got into an argument with the brothers and then the brothers are like, wow, let's kill him. Yeah. Detective Lowenstein still alive.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Jesus Christ. There's a lot of like near death. That is another one panel comic. Detective Lowenstein still alive. It's like it's like a Brenda star. But it's one panel at a time. You got to be very patient with Detective Lowenstein. Still alive. Like it's a curse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:21 He only wants to die. Yeah, take me. Oh, fuck. Jacob Lowenstein, the detective who was shot Friday by his wife and reported dead in yesterday's papers, is doing well and will. Wow. Wow. Well, let's not. I mean, we came out with that pretty early. He made it. Yeah, he made it. The bullet has not yet been extracted from his head
Starting point is 00:54:47 because the surgeon's fear of further loss of blood would be dangerous. Should we even be talking about, I mean. That sounds bad. Yeah. That doesn't sound great. Yeah. And I wonder if he is an ancestor
Starting point is 00:55:02 of Evan and Jaren Lowenstein. Do you remember Evan and Jaren Lowenstein. Do you remember Evan and Jaren? No. Of course. They were a pop duo. I did Evan and Gareth, I did stuff as Evan and Gareth. Oh, no, see that's Evan and Gareth.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Evan and Jaren was very on our radar. Oh, of course. But yeah, we were like, no, we're different. We do, goddamn them. Evan and Jaren were this like super dreamy duo. They were like, you know, guitar pop, early 2000s. And then, and then it was like them, they're Orthodox. I mean, they had always been Orthodox Jewish, which is like rare in the, you know, dream guitar pop world. Yep. And then, so Jaren is still,
Starting point is 00:55:40 I think in the music business, Evan, do you know what Evan does? No, Gareth. No He may not be anymore but up until literally within the last couple years and maybe still the manager of Kevin Spacey Wow I'm gonna guess that he's changed his career Maybe yeah, I think I think it's safe to'm going to guess that he's changed his career. Uh, maybe. Yeah. I think it's safe to assume he might.
Starting point is 00:56:07 At least he has another side gig. Maybe. I don't know. Is Kevin Spacey going to come back, Dave? What do you think? Probably. No, he's done. Do you think?
Starting point is 00:56:15 I bet he will. I think he's done because I think that he... I don't think people see him as enough of a value, but maybe. I don't think maybe, maybe not to movies. Yeah, Mel Gibson's active. Yeah, I bet he will have a, he will do some big Broadway show that will. Something.
Starting point is 00:56:35 It'll be, yeah. Something, so he'll be in something. Yeah. I just remember I always used to go to the Jones Cafe and he would be in that corner table and always with a super young dude and I would just. Oh, always. That looks too young dude. And I would just be like, that looks too young for a place.
Starting point is 00:56:47 He was a big brother, asshole. Can I, oh my God, can I tell you guys a story that you may cut out? We won't. Okay, so one of the first people I knew when I moved to LA was this guy who was like, you know, handsome, young, jacked dude, straight guy. He was, he had been a Marine and he was like working as a personal trainer, but he had for a while been Kevin Spacey's assistant. And, and I was like, okay, tell me
Starting point is 00:57:18 everything. And, and a story that he told me was that they went to whatever the Sony lot to see a screening of Saving Private Ryan before that movie was released. And this guy said in the middle of the screening, it was kind of just the two of them in the middle of the screening, Kevin Spacey took off his jacket, put it on his lap and jacked off in Saving Private Ryan, which is amazing. Amazing. Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah. So then I literally told that story to everyone. Even people I didn't meet, just like people on the street, I would stop. If there was a don't walk sign. Oh my God. Can I take you with a sandwich board, walking around? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. Knocking on people's car windows. Hi, could you get this down? All right, so then, you know, a couple years later, I meet another young guy, hot, ripped, straight young guy who also for a time worked as Kevin Spacey's assistant. And I was like, oh my God, let me, this is incredible. I get to tell you this story.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So I told him the story and he was like, I don't actually, I don't think that's true. And I was like, oh my God, let me, this is incredible. I get to tell you this story. So I told him the story and he was like, I don't actually, I don't think that's true. And I was like, oh, why? And he goes, you know, I don't, it's not like he never jacked off in front of me before, but I just feel like he would have more respect for the cinema than that. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And I said, that's an amazing thing to say. Can we back up to, it's not like he never jacked off in front of me before. And he was like, well, yeah, and there were a lot of road trips. Like he, but it was just so like the, you know, the way that people like that operate is just like to this guy who was otherwise very sensible. It was like, it made perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Like he has to sit in a car for more than 90 minutes. What's he going to do? I mean, David, I drive to a lot of shows and we're definitely masturbating. You gotta jack off. No, if the car rides to do? David, I drive to a lot of shows and we're definitely masturbating. You got to jack off. You got to jack. No, if the car rides more than three hours, I'm. Yeah, you have to do. What are you supposed to do? Hold it in. It's like this.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Have to. You have to. How else are you going to stay focused? That is amazing. And I still hope that he jacked off during saving private ride. I do, too. I do, too. I want to. I choose to believe I choose to believe. I feel like it was Ed Burns that did it. That's what I was like the voice.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Right. Fucking jack off. I like the knife was going in the chest. No, sure. Yeah. It's a hot scene. Yeah. It's dark. It's pretty dark.
Starting point is 00:59:43 It's it's not great. So it's a moment of real emotional intimacy between two men. And I may I'm going to I know Adam Goldberg, so I might send him a message and just say, like, hey, I heard this. And I think it's about you. Yeah, yeah. You want to know that seems like the thing to do here. You want to know you want to know information. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:05 OK, back to Jacob Lowenstein, who has been shot in the thing to do here. You'd want to know. You'd want to know. Information, yeah. Yeah. Okay, back to Jacob Lowenstein, who has been shot in the head by his wife. Sorry, I kept thinking he was jacking off. Okay, go ahead. The bullet has not yet been extracted from his head because they think it's gonna lead to blood loss. Okay, he slept much of the time yesterday. He's dying.
Starting point is 01:00:22 He's dying. He slept great. He got a bullet in his head. If you got shot in the head, you're not sleeping. He's dying. He slept. You got a bullet in his head. If you got shot in the head, you're not sleeping. When he's sleeping, koala hours, we're talking 23 hours a day. This guy's conked out. Let the man snooze. Good Lord. He's tired.
Starting point is 01:00:36 He was at no time delirious yesterday and saw his brothers, Moses and Lewis. Wow. Naming kids, Moses. That's fine. Miss Lowenstein is detained at the or Mrs. Lowenstein is detained at the East Chicago Avenue Station Monday. She will be arraigned. She refuses to see reporters. Miss Lowenstein's Mrs. Lowenstein's friends say the papers have done her an injustice.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I agree. They say she was industrious and a saving housewife At the end The quarrels between miss Lowenstein and her husband they say were caused by her belief in his unfaithfulness Okay Not by his unfaithfulness, but by her belief her belief on faithfulness belief. So he was fucking around sounds like a unbelievable He yeah, I mean his his salary they claim went to buy luxuries for other women and when he
Starting point is 01:01:40 Coolie said he intended to leave her she shot him in despair and anger. Okay. Yeah, that's why, that's why just do it. Don't start DMing women, just do it. If you want out, get out. Just go, just leave. And by the way, let this be another example to you, Great Britain. Our lunatics are busy and unfaithful and heavily armed.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Activated in a fun way. Yeah, that'll never change. All right, Dave, you wanna cap her off? Yeah, oh, you wanna do another one? Oh no, no, that's fine. We can do one last one. Bang out one more real quick. How the girls haze.
Starting point is 01:02:20 A gentle form of hazing is that to which the fresh girl entering the women's college at Bryn Mawr is subjected. Two bundles of books are hung around her neck and she is required to ascend an inclined plank that is slippery when after many slips she reaches the top she is given a lamp which she is told to keep full and the wick well trimmed as to not to be caught like the foolish virgins. Oh, my God. I'm glad we got one more in. That's good. That is wild hazing.
Starting point is 01:02:57 That is how long does the lamp have to do the lamp? Maybe forever. I don't know. For the rest of her college. Wow. Wow. Locking up a slippery plank with two things of books around your neck. Just slipping bundles of books, bundles of books, slip, hitting you in the face and stuff. Body flailing. Yeah. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Is she does she have the lamp to keep it lit so she doesn't get banged? Is that banged? Well, the foolish versions as not to get out like the foolish versions. Are they saying? Well, when we're talking about someone plank dropping a lot, banged is the wrong word for fucking. OK. Well, I listen. I know when I go home late at night, a lamp keeps me from getting banged,
Starting point is 01:03:42 which is why I always blow it out. Dave Holmes, bless you for joining us. What a pleasure who killed the video star Yeah, the podcast where you can get it anywhere It is a podcast for can get anywhere, but everything that you do go on that But there is a limited edition version is only available at Target. That's right. Sorry. So please get there if you can. That's great. And follow Dave.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Thank you. Your third appearance. So we have to thank you now. You're officially. This is big for you. Thank you. Thank you. Get ready.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Get ready. What a pleasure. What a pleasure. What a pleasure. Thank you, Dave. Better Dave. Get in my car and jack off. Thank you. I was actually jacking off through the story about Kevin Spacey jacking off just to be
Starting point is 01:04:28 clear with everyone. Great. It's hot. It is hot. Oh, thanks, Dave. Look, as you probably know, some of these days. Look, as you probably know, I travel a lot. Too much?
Starting point is 01:04:50 Sure, sure, that's fair. And on the road, if I ever have a choice between a hotel or an Airbnb, I always go Airbnb just because it's better. So for instance, when I was just on tour recently, there were a couple nights where I had off and instead of getting a hotel, I would get an Airbnb because I could have a kitchen. I like a home way over a hotel. There's just a little bit more of a personalized experience.
Starting point is 01:05:12 So whenever it's up to me, I really always go with that just because it's better. Feels like your home. You just have more amenities. But also I recently started thinking like, while I'm gone, can I turn my place into an Airbnb? And the answer is yes, it can be as easy as putting your place up and then having a little more scratch generated from someone staying at my place while I'm on the road. So, whether you could use a little extra money to cover some bills
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