The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 86 - Tom Dennison and The Omaha Riot
Episode Date: June 7, 2015In one of The Dollop's darker episodes, Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine political boss Tom Dennison and The Omaha Race Riot.Sources Tour Dates Redbubble MerchPatreon...
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read a story to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is
about and this is this will come out in June and then another one in
December. Nope, I don't think that's how this works. Not Gary Gareth. Dave okay.
Someone or something is tickling people. Is it for fun? And this is not gonna come
to tickling podcasts. Okay. You are Queen Fakie of Hade Uptown. All hail Queen
shit of Liesville. A bunch of religious virgins go to mingle and do what? Fray.
Hi, Gary. No. Is he done, my friend? No.
So there might be some noise in this one because we're at Gareth's apartment and
there is a pool party happening next door where they're playing old 60s music
and then there are gentlemen banging on the side. There's a bang party. There's a
bang party outside. By bang party we're not talking about the pool party. Yeah,
no, no. The pool party didn't just turn in. October 26th, 1858. That might be a
little loud. How long do you think that's gonna go on? Okay, so we have moved. We
are away from the room where they're banging on the window. Those are huge
lemons. Thanks, bro. Holy shit. Oh, you mean those? I thought you were looking at my
pants. Oh, no, those are grapefruits. First time looking at fruit. So I already did
the date. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna get a chair and get a little further away.
No, no, no. You sit right there. No, I don't want that. Now, this podcast is a
disaster. Now I feel you're all happy with yourself. Yep, very chuffed. Your
homophobia. Excuse me. Tom Denison was born in Delhi, Iowa. Delhi. Nice. He was
the third of eight children of Irish immigrants, John and Anna Denison. In
1860, the Denison's moved to a farm in Dakota County, Nebraska. Okay, the elder
Denison remained there the rest of his life. During that time, he took an active
part in the life of his community, owning a modest but successful farm and
serving in several minor elective posts. Well, thank you for the story, Dave. It
was great to have you around. Thanks for listening. One of our best. Yep. Tom left
home at the age of 15 and returned to Iowa. Tom spent six years as a farm
laborer in Manona and Mills counties. Okay. There he once won a contest for the
county corn husking championship. What does that even mean? That what is it?
It's just removing the pieces of corn? Yeah. No, that's just taking the husk off
the corn. Tucking the husk off and getting ready for corn. That makes sense why they
call it that. Yeah, it's cleaning the corn the fast. It's writing the name.
Corn husking. You don't need to look at me like that. In 1879, Denison left Iowa
and sought adventure farther west. He worked at a blacksmithing establishment
in Kansas. He went prospecting in Colorado and railroading in New Mexico.
While living at the Kokomo Colorado mining camp, he shot and wounded a man for
any particular reason. Couldn't find out. Jesus. Maybe the guy deserved it. It
sounds like you're a little gung-ho. He then moved to Leadville and became a
floor walker at the Texas. Okay. Yeah, that's a weird. All right, so we know what
corn husking is. What is this floor walking? It was the town's largest and
most notorious gambling hall. Oh, okay. So floor walking would be kind of just
like managing the floor a little bit, keeping an eye on the floor. Yeah, making
sure no one's doing like a pit boss. The business. Right. Yeah, a pit boss. Yeah,
shittier. Much shittier. During this period, Denison showed a knack for
taking advantage of business opportunities and within a short time
rose from bouncer to owner of a quarter interest in the Texas. He then sold it
using his profits to purchase part ownership in Leadville's Opera House.
Next, he started the old arcade in Denver, which would be the first of a chain
of gambling houses in the Rocky Mountain area. In 1892, at the age of 34,
he settled in Omaha. Okay. Denison was an imposing figure, six feet tall and 200
pounds, always immaculately dressed and usually wearing large, flawless diamonds.
Whoa, that's interesting. He's a pimp. Yeah, the diamond look really just screams
I sell pussy. Straight up pimp. Yeah. Photographs of Denison show a man with
cold, penetrating eyes who often had a wry smile playing at the corners of his
mouth. He had a deep voice with a slight speech impediment that only surfaced
when he was tense. That's interesting. Yeah, that's great, right? To just be
like, yeah, I kind of don't like the way that guy's looking at me. Excuse me for
a second. Excuse me, sir. If there's some sort of problem you have with me, if
there's something you want to say to me, sir, because you keep looking at me a
little funny. I'm just wondering what your deal is. I told you he'd do it if you look at him.
Anyway, sorry about that. I didn't mean to lose my cool. It's just that fucking
asshole. What's the problem with the guy? I don't like the way that that guy
looked at me. Omaha had recently been going through an economic boom and was on
the was was the one of the new leading agricultural and meat packing towns in
the Midwest. But most importantly for Tom, the city had a seamy side. This
activity was centered in the Third Ward and it was responsible for the city
being called the wickedest city in the United States. Jesus. And a wide open
town. Oh boy. The Third Ward gained notoriety through its saloons, gambling
dens, street games and brothels. Drifters, swindlers, gamblers, prostitutes and
criminals compromised a significant segment of its population. The police,
with the exception of a rare obligatory crackdown, generally ignored the
district's activities. City fathers looked upon the area as a necessary evil.
Sounds like peeky blinders so far. I haven't seen that. Well, you're hearing
about it a little bit. Yeah, just an area where it just seems lawless and yeah,
you can do whatever the fuck you want. As goes the Third Ward, so goes the city,
was the saying. The ward gave substantial majorities to candidates in
elections. Candidates from other precincts of the city could rarely match
the votes from the Third Ward. Denison only needed to further so consolidate
and organize the ward and its activities under his control to make
himself supreme. And that's what he quickly did. Okay. A power vacuum had
recently been created when the big four, Charles Bivens, Hiram Kennedy, Charles
White and Jack Morrison, who had run the Third Ward for years, suddenly
disappeared after a police crackdown. Okay. Denison was there to fill the void.
Oh boy, Diamond Denison. In November of 1892, Denison established a gambling
house in an alley near 14th and Dodge, from which he ran a policy game, an
illegal form of lottery popular among low income classes. And within a few years,
he and his brother John had opened branch shops in South Omaha and across the
state line East Omaha. These three dens formed the most successful enterprises
of their kind in the city. During this period, Denison formed connections
through silent partnerships with other saloon casinos. Cliff Coles was brought
by Billy in Nestle house and was it was renamed Budweiser. Whoa. Jesus. A lot of
bar named Cliff Coles, which is a good name for a bar. Yeah. And he renamed it
Budweiser. Well, I mean, in retrospect, it was a brilliant name for a bar. You
know, the fucking deal would be crazy if it was before Budweiser. Yeah, that would
be interesting. Budweiser served as Denison's headquarters. By the early
1900s, Denison had established his ward machine, the key lieutenant Billy in
Nestle house became the business brains of the organization and coordinated
various vice activities from the Budweiser. Yeah, Denison recognized the
importance of minority support, made sure these groups had representatives
within the machine. For instance, he financed a black man to help him
purchase a brothel with Denison's help. He got police protection and ran that
district. If there were ever any disagreements, Denison would replace the
black man with another to run the district. So he just sounds so he gets
him all in and they vote the way he wants. Yeah, that's all good to go. Jack
Bloomfield ran the area for many years. As Denison's machine rose in power, so
did the amount of vice and newspapers began to notice. Among the rogues
frequently reported to be in the city were the John C. Maybray gang, a group
of Iowa swindlers, Patrick Crow, a train robber and kidnapper and fainting
Bertha Lebke, whose gambit was swooning in front of her unsuspecting victims and
then picking their pockets when they came to her aid. I mean, that one has
got to get old fast. I saw you faint yesterday, bitch. I saw you faint
yesterday, Bertha. Between 1905 and 1915, Omaha had the greatest increase in drinking
establishments of any city in the nation. All right, fuck yeah. By 1910, there
were an estimated 100 brothels and 2,500 prostitutes in the city. 2,000
prostitutes. Yeah, there's not that many people there. There's just so many
whores. That's great. And you know what else? Like, I don't want to be gross. Go
ahead. But they're not, you know, clean. It's the pull-out method, if anything, in
this time, right? There's not like... I mean, they did have... What did they put like
lamb skin on their fucking cunts? I don't know if they had condoms at that point, but
yeah, it's not a good... I'm not saying like going to whores now is a great
option. Look, it's not a good time to put your penis in a random vagina, nor is it a
good time to have a random penis in your vagina. Yeah, that's just... Either way,
yeah, you're gonna end up with syphilis. Yeah, oh god. And then your nose will fall
off. Welcome to reality. It was estimated the yearly average income from the
brothels was $17,760,000. I mean, we've just always loved to fuck. It just...
And the feet... It doesn't matter. We'll run out of water. Yeah. The one thing will
be consistent. We're looking to fuck. Yeah. We're a fuck people. We're fuck. We like
to fuck. On the same day in 1914 that a grand jury reported finding no examples
of harlotry in the city, a street rocker was quoted by the Daily News saying,
it's a poor girl on the street who can't make at least $5 a night in Omaha, so
it's a fuck town. So your main occupation if you go there is to fuck. Yeah. Okay.
Denison knew he couldn't have the police in a few city officials in his pocket.
He couldn't just have a few police and a few city officials in his pocket. And diamonds.
To make this work. Yeah. He needed the political machine. He would throw a
support behind any candidate from either party that would serve his needs. Most
importantly, he formed a bond with Edward Rosewater and his newspaper, The
Omaha Bee. Rosewater was a bohemian immigrant who had built a reputation as
a man who would fight rival editors both physically and verbally. That's a fun
order too. Rosewater had gained control of a large faction of the local
Republican Party. In 1906, Rosewater died and Rosewater's son and
successor Victor inherited a strong role in Republican politics and continued the
Bee policy of rarely mentioning Denison's name in print while going after his
enemies. But the Democratic candidates backed by the World Herald newspaper and
the news were succeeding as they railed against city corruption and vice. One
would have thought Denison was losing control, but he was quietly working
behind the scenes. John Denison, his brother, was appointed a sidewalk
inspector. Well, this looks good. Excuse me. I'm gonna go home. Off the
sidewalk. Excuse me. Are you walking? Eight years later, his brother Pat took the
coveted post of street department foreman. Hey, I've been watching you
sidewalk guy. Holy shit. The Denison's have controlled the sidewalk in the
street. Oh boy. I don't know which way. Anywhere you walk, you're walking in
the Denison territory. What's this town coming to? Next, Pat's son became a
police officer and Billy Nestlehouse is a stepbrother, a city commissioner. Oh
boy. Then Louis Burmeister, a third-war saloon keeper, was elected president of
the city council. The following year, Johnny Lynch, Denison's most important
ally next to Nestlehouse, was elected to the county commission and shortly
thereafter became a chairman. Lynch's election was important to Denison
because it gave him control over juries. Suddenly, no one was being convicted.
Good. So, that's, I mean, this is Peaky Blinders. In 1906, James Cowboy Jim
Dahlman was elected mayor. A mayor Cowboy? Yeah, he had a Cowboy hat and the
horse soul thing. He's a cowboy. I mean, I'm noticing a lot of commonalities
between then and now. In regard to saloons, gambling and prostitution, the mayor
adopted a hands-off policy. Which is the best. We need to get government out of
government. You're like, you dumb motherfucker. The fuck did you run for then? To get no
power? Everything ran smoothly. The machine rolled on and Denison brought in
the money until 1918 when it all fell apart. First, in 1916, Nebraska passed a
state constitutional amendment allowing for prohibition. Next, the state passed an
election law making it much more difficult to stuff ballot boxes. Good
order there, too. And finally, the military barred all servicemen from the
Third Ward. Wow. Yeah, that's fucked up. That's not good for business. Not good for
fuck business. And it's not good for the military guys. It's no. Good lord. Yeah.
All Jim Wano was a little syphilis. Just a little taste. Yeah, he just wanted to
dip his fucking, you know, just dipping the syph. He wanted to just do a syph dip. Jesus. Let him syph dip. That's horrible. What? In the 1918
election, Denison lost five of the seven city commissioners as well as Mayor
Dahlman. His political power was wiped out overnight. Turns out the people at
Omaha wanted reform and were tired of the scandals in county government, the
corrupt police department, and the sanctioning of ridiculous city contracts.
A new era was starting for Omaha. Edward P. Smith, a successful lawyer, was
chosen to be new mayor. John Ringer was selected police commissioner and was
given the task of cleansing the police department and putting a tight reign on
the city's vise. Ringer was a radical who saw his election as a moral crusade.
It's so funny when a radical is someone who's just gonna do the things
that are legal. Like just, you know what I mean? When someone's like, this guy's a
real radical. All right, no prostitution. He doesn't want corruption. No murder in
the people's. He's kind of a lunatic. Now without power, Denison looked around at
the state of Omaha and the country to fix his problem. Omaha had changed
significantly since 1900. The World War I era created a demand for labor in
America's industrial regions beyond the south. Uh-oh. Time to move. Time to
company move. Immigration was drastically curtailed during the war and close to
five million Americans enlisted in the army. They were a huge job they can
seize. A massive labor shortage was at hand. So, northern factories and
industries actively recruited southern African American laborers, often enticing
them to move north by offering to pay their train fare. News of the jobs
available in northern cities circulated via mouth and through African American
newspapers. Omaha itself had a labor shortage with upwards of 20,000
Omahaans enlisted during World War I. African Americans wanted to escape the
nightmare of sharecropping and Jim Crow laws in favor of the urban north.
450,000 blacks migrated north during what came to be called the Great
Migration. Okay. Omaha's African American population changed dramatically. The
railroads and packing plants offered a wide range of unskilled job
opportunities and economic prospects. From 1910 to 1920, Omaha's black
population more than doubled to 10,315 out of a total population of 191
thousand. Wow. At the same time, many unions were going on strike because wages
were so horrible. Many African Americans coming in on trains had no idea they
were being shipped to take others jobs. Blacks quickly learned the exact thing
they escaped from was being recreated in places like Omaha by their very
presence. Got to be a great situation. Yeah. Just a great time to be black. It's a
great time. This is probably the best time to be black. A lot of good times. I
mean, good vibes. A lot of great times. I think that's this is what the song Good
Vibrations is about by the Beach Boys. Yeah, no, exactly. Now soldiers began
returning from the warfront. They found black communities had grown throughout
northern cities, often in areas that had been inhabited once by whites. So tell me
how they calmly handled this predicament. A lot of handshaking, a lot of talks. Yeah.
Look at the guy in the eyes and go, let's sit down and talk about it. Why don't we
talk about this over a nice cold butt. That's right. Yeah, right. Economic
resentment built up as job availability became scarce for returning
veterans, many of whom resent an African Americans who occupied formerly white
health jobs and to top it off, the unions wouldn't take black members. So black
workers would just say fuck it and take the jobs they otherwise may have passed
on. Wait, what's the union time? The unions wouldn't take black members. So
then, but then they would, oh, so then it left them fewer opportunities.
Then they have no choice but to be scabs. Right. Yeah, you shouldn't
even be called a scab. No, at that point you're just a guy. A human. An
optionless human. Optionless human. Hey, you're one of them
optionless human guys I can tell by your skin color. Yes, thank you for finally
calling us that. Good Lord. So you got like no options. Although back then being
called a scab for black people was probably like thank you. That's a nice
word. Finally, usually get what a relief. You have a Packers clock. Yeah. Yeah. Bay
Packers clock like you're five. Listen, I haven't tattooed on my body too. What
do you want from me? The year I like the Green Bay Packers. I get it. I get it. It's
a great clock. Thank you. The year of the lynchings was upon us. It's not a good
start. What do you mean? That's a terrible start to a sentence. Good. This is gonna
be a great paragraph. No lynchings killed 78 black people in 1919 and increased
from 48 in 1918. Even worse lynchings. Yeah. It's almost doubled. But it's just
crazy. Yeah. Even worse. The lynchings had a carnivalesque atmosphere. Dave. What's
up? Is that a weird word to. Yeah. Put with lynchings. Yeah. Popcorn. Get your
popcorn. Cirque du Soleil presents lynchings. Sit down. I can't see the black guy swinging.
Come on. My kid has never seen this before. You're getting all over his taffy. Let my
boy watch the black man hang. In the South, violent mobs of hundreds if not thousands
gathered with advanced notice of lynchings that were often advertised in their local
newspaper. Wait, white people or black people? White people would gather in large crowds
because the lynching would be advertised in the huge show. This is not. I will say this
is not. Did you not know that we advertise lynchings in newspapers? I didn't. I guess
I didn't realize it was like a carnival. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize it was the gladiator
of lynchings near Ellesville, Mississippi. The lynching and burning of a suspected black
rapist, John Hartfield, was advertised by the New Orleans States with a headline that
read 3000 will burn Negro. Three. That was the headline. That means like 3000 people
will be there to watch him burn. Yeah. Boy, this is. Do you want some of that, Jameson?
How do you want to handle this? This is a good time to point out that America is a really
great place. Terrible. Thousands of people arrived to witness the spectacle. Mobs assembled
and attacked African Americans throughout that summer without fear of government repisal.
Mobs feared little recourse for their actions and gladly posed for lynching pictures. This
lack of punishment tag me led to more attacks and finally riots. Selfie. I'm taking a selfie
with a dead guy. There we go. This is known as the Red Summer. In most instances. Because
it was hot. Blood me. I figured. In most instances, white attacked blacks. In some cases, blacks
fought back. The first birth riot broke out in Charleston, South Carolina on May the 10th.
It was begun by sailors in the US Navy. Three black men were killed. Then smaller riots
broke out in May in Sylvester, Georgia, Putnam County, Georgia, Montecito, Mississippi. In
June, New London, Connecticut, Memphis, Tennessee, Annapolis, Maryland, and Macon, Mississippi.
Then in July, Brisbane, Arizona, where white police attacked the Buffalo soldiers of the
10th Cavalry. Then in Norfolk, Virginia, a white mob attacked a homecoming celebration
for African Americans, veterans of World War One. I mean, I like. Yeah. I mean, how do
you, in that time, at least not. Say thank you. Well, like, how do you. I mean, it's
horrible regardless. Yeah. But how does the. How do you. How do you bridge that gap mentally
for like. It's bewildering because they were marching through town in a parade and they
were like, you can't march. You black bastards can't march through our town. I've always
said I'm down for beating the shit out of people having a parade, but that is not race
related. That is just literally anybody who thinks that's a good call. Well, maybe that's
what it was. Maybe they just didn't like parades. I don't think that was the case.
There were eight more riots in July before they hit Washington, D.C. There blacks fought
back because watching people watching the watching police refused to intervene. The
rioting went on for four days. A week later was the worst of all in Chicago. The riots
there lasted 13 days. Jesus. The red summer hit 25 cities in 1919. And Tom Denison was
listening to the news from around the country and he saw the change that was occurring in
Omaha and he went to work using his friend. I don't like what that means. What do you
mean that he went to work using his friend Rose water in the Omaha B. The B was a very
bad newspaper that practiced yellow journalism. Bias news using language and tone intended
to arouse passions. Fox knows the Omaha B newspaper published a series of sensational
stories of racial incidents from late June until early September. Throughout its summer
riots coverage, the B accentuated the increasing black and white casualties around the country.
In early June, an article about a young white girl in Council Bluffs who said she was robbed,
throttled and assaulted by a black male. Next, the B reported a woman was attacked by an
unidentified man suspected as either being a Negro or Mexican. It's hard to...
I mean, that's how you know you're racist. It's one of them. The original report said
it's one of them. How can you not tell? Well, they're brown. I was in Miami once and I was
there for hip hop weekend. Unless hip hop weekend. It's a great weekend to be there.
It's a crazy weekend to be there. And it was like late at night and this black chick is
walking down the street and she put her arm around me and she goes, I need to find a fine
ass Mexican dude like this guy. And I was like, ma'am, you are shit. I was like, you drink
yourself to the point where I look Mexican. It's like fucking Irish.
Reports of alleged assaults against white women by black men dominated the B's headlines,
creating the perception that violence was a relentless problem in Omaha. In mid August,
a white mob almost apprehended a man named Johnny Moore, suspected of assaulting four
white girls between the age of nine and 14. Upon word of Moore's capture, a mob wielding
corn knives and firearms attempted to detain the prisoner themselves before detectives
whisked him away. The B reporter on August 17th, another story of an unidentified one
armed Negro who restrained an assaulted a 12 year old girl named Anna Glassman.
Okay. By the end of the month, the B reported yet another incident where a black man named
Robert King, a recent immigrant from Arkansas, was alleged to have assaulted a white woman
and was nearly lynched by a mob before police officers arrived. With growing violence, the
B then began to place blame squarely on Mayor Smith and the Omaha police forces of African
Americans in Omaha. From June 7th to September 27th, the Omaha B reported 21 alleged attacks
by black men upon white women. The B incessantly reported that African Americans were either
suspected or arrested for the alleged crimes. When police and prosecutors could not convict
any of those arrested, some Omaha citizens became even more critical to the police department
in Mayor Smith because none of them had done it. The B printed editorials on the front
page assailing police commissioner ringer for practicing tyranny and abuse and complained
that a carnival of crime is being visited upon the city with assaults, robbery and violence
the consequences of incompetent police. Then came September 25th, 1919. Milton Hoffman
and Agnes Lobeck were assaulted at Bancroft Street and Scenic Avenue as they were walking
home after a late movie. My guess is they're white. Really? Yeah. I think you are correct.
They said their assailant robbed them at gunpoint, taking Hoffman's watch, money and
billfold, plus a ruby ring from Agnes. He ordered Hoffman to move several steps away,
then drag 19 year old Lobeck by her hair into a nearby ravine and raped her. Well, okay,
sorry not to jump in, but then this white guy is a fucking little bitch in this story.
It's a weird thing to figure out how someone can do physically. I mean, oh shit, Agnes,
that sucks. Sorry about your ruby ring. Yo, I'm just gonna hang here. All right, oh boy.
Girl. I hope it's fast, Agnes. I'll be here. Jesus Christ. On Friday the 26th, an Omaha
headline read, Black Beast First Stick Up Couple. I mean, it sounds like the bee needs
to go to headline school. Black Beast. I mean, that's awful. But it's all, what's the rest
of it? First Stick Up Couple. I don't even know what that means. Maybe at the time it
meant something. It doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. I mean, maybe he was the first black
man to stick up a couple.
The most daring attack on a white woman ever perpetrated in Omaha occurred one block south
of Bankoff Street near Scenic Avenue in Gibson last night. The article states that the black
beast had assaulted the white girl. Police searched two hours joined by 400 armed men
under the leadership of James Lobeck, Agnes' brother, and Frank Rom. A neighbor told searchers
of a quote, suspicious Negro living in a house at 2418 South Fifth Street. Isn't any Negro
in a house suspicious to people at this time? I think that's what they're saying. Yeah.
So they're looking for a black... Suspicious Negro just means Negro at this time. They're
looking for a black person and someone goes, I know where a black person lives. Yeah. A
suspicious one. Well, of course he's suspicious. He's black. Well, this suspicious black man
was living with a white woman, Virginia Jones, and another black man. See. So that's where
we know where the suspicion came in. Yeah. Oh, that right. Yeah. Breaking the rules.
Yeah. Well, he's clearly hypnotized a whitey, naughty Negro.
Rom and four of his men found 41 year old William Brown at the house and held him with
a shotgun. Arriving on the scene, police found Brown hiding under his bed. They took him
to Lobeck's home nearby, bringing with them clothes found in Brown's room. So I just want
to... I just want to break this down. So there's a guy just living in a house with a white
woman and people are searching for a black guy. So someone says, hey, I know where a
black guy lives with a white lady and clearly that guy's problem. And then they go to the
house and they capture the guy and then they take him to the woman's house who said she
was raped and they bring his clothes from the closet. They bring his clothes? Yeah.
Why? Fashion. Lobeck and Hoffman identified Brown as their assailant. Agnes also identified
the clothing, including a white felt hat that had been worn by a man seen in the Gibson
neighborhood. So it's not a hat that he was wearing when he committed the crime. It's
a hat that a black guy was seen wearing around the neighborhood. Also, when your racism is
so impenetrable, what is the point of identifying? Like, it's inherent that they all are the
same to you. Yeah. You've already said that they all basically look the same. Yeah. What
is the point? I mean, any dude you bring there, she's gonna be like, that was him. He's black
and breathing. That's the one. He's got a face. I'd recognize him anywhere with those
two hands and shoes. His eyes, his brown eyes. He's blinking just like the man who assailant
assaulted me. Black hair, I told you, black hair. Hoffman identified Brown, quote, with
not the least bit of doubt, but what he is the Negro who held him at gunpoint while he
raped Agnes. Later, however, Agnes stated that her attacker was black, but quote, I
can't say whether he is the man or not. It's got to be a lot of pressure to not even like
take the side of a, I mean, obviously, it's terrible what happened to her if that's actually
what happened to her. But to have like nine foaming white dudes at your house with a black
dude with clothes, just like with hard-ons for the conviction, I'm sure at that point
you're, you know, you're like, well, yeah, exactly. This is a weird lineup, but I don't
point that guy at my living room. Out of all the guys here, the nine white guys and the
one black guy, he's the closest. Man, we know you were just traumatized by a rape, but
we're gonna bring your rapist into your house. So that's comfortable and smart. Is your
rapist? Hey, welcome back to is this your rapist? If I say he is, will you stop bringing
rapists into my house? I can't make any promises, ma'am. And no. By the large crowd of some
250 men and women had gathered around the house shouting that Brown should be lynched.
They struggled with the police and twice succeeded in putting a rope around Brown's neck. The
standoff lasted for an hour. Despite slashing of tires and beatings, the police took Brown
first to the new Douglas County Courthouse jail. There police chief of police, Marshall
Eberstein said he did not know if Brown was guilty and that further investigation was
necessary like a police officer. So think of how fucked up a time it is when black people
are dying to go to the prison with the cops. Like when that was this is the time that was
the best option. This is the time when black people were like, please take me to the prison.
Oh, my God, the police, you're the only people I can turn to right now. The levelheaded cops.
When he was taken to the county jail, Brown said he was working as a coal hustler, which
meant he would carry coal from trucks to sellers and limping because of rheumatism. A physical
examination showed Brown was quote, too twisted by rheumatism to assault anyone. An Omaha
World reporter interviewed Brown in jail and quote, confirmed by his observation, the
man's crippled condition. His chronic rheumatism meant Brown would be unable to overpower Low
Beck and Hoffman concluded Jim McKee, a Lincoln Journal writer.
Well, yeah, I'm not surprising. I still stand by the fact that Agnes should not have gone
out with such a pussy also.
Ironically, Hoffman, the pussy was also he broke a leg when he was a kid and it healed
him correctly. So he had a limp. So in all the newspaper reports, they referred to him
as the cripple, Hoffman, the cripple.
Meanwhile, the dude with the rheumatisms in jail, excuse me, who's the who's the cripple
storyline in this?
Ironically, Hoffman was repeatedly mentioned as the cripple. He denied that description
saying he had a disability because of his broken leg that never mended. Come on, I'm
not the cripple.
Yeah.
About 2pm.
Focus on the right things there, pal.
That's 2pm on September 28th. Hoffman got about 200 mostly young people at Bancroft
School to follow him to the courthouse and try to seize Brown. Detective John Dunne told
the marchers to halt, but they ignored him, their numbers increasing as they passed. By
4pm, several hundred people had gathered at the south side of the courthouse with 30 policemen
cordoning off the building. Thinking there was really no threat, a police captain sent
home 50 officers who have been summoned to police headquarters as a reserve.
And this year's shithead of the year award goes to...
What a fucking idiot.
Hey, what are you guys doing here? The captain called us down.
Nah, we're good. Nah, even though there's 200 people out there in a lynch mob, we're
calling it a slow Sunday. Why don't you guys call it? Huh? Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, come on, you don't need to work today. You don't need to call us five.
You guys, the bag's under your eyes, please.
Come on, get some sleep, gentlemen.
Come on, this'll be fine.
We got this. There's like 30 of us and 500 of them.
All right, do the math. Don't do that math.
Take care.
Inside, Chief Eberstein called... So, while that guy is sending him home, Chief Eberstein
called the Council Bluffs, Iowa, Police Chief JC Jensen for assistance. Jensen replied he
had no right to send his men out of the state.
They then asked the Lancaster County Home Guard for help, but were told the riot would
be over before they could respond.
I mean, that is like the, I'm washing my hair excuse for a date. You know you're getting
the fucking run around when you hear that.
Yeah, we're making a tuna casserole over here.
We can't find our shoes, so I don't know how we could do it.
You know what, our shirts are in the wash and our shoes aren't shiny.
God.
So, you know what, and I'm thinking by the time we get down there after the shirts get
out of the wash and we dry them and blah, blah, blah, the riot's going to be over.
My most riots go for an hour forty-five.
Where was the last place we saw our shoes?
Oh boy.
If we could figure that out.
We're going to get back to you.
I'll tell you what, we're exhausted. Good luck with all that.
When Lieutenant Colonel Jacob West at Fort Omaha received a report that a riot was underway,
he told Omaha's police chief that federal troops could not get involved unless ordered
by the War Department.
The military's-
It's a good thing there's not a lot of levels and hoops to go through.
This is when there's just paperwork at this point.
Yeah.
I mean, it's literally like everyone's like, let me call headquarters.
You know, I get that you guys are getting attacked by a giant mob, but I got stuff to
get signed.
Let me float it up the chain.
I'm going to talk to some fellows.
Please hold.
The military chain of command had to be initiated, delaying action while communication passed
from Secretary of War Newton D. Baker down to the Fort's commanding officer.
In an hour, police were confronted by some four to 5,000 angry people throwing rocks
at the courthouse.
Four to 5,000.
Yeah.
Dude, if you're in the cell, I mean, you would probably want to fucking just hang yourself
just to not give them the satisfaction but play the reality, which is that you're pretty
fucked.
You're pretty fucked.
The North Doors gave way and the police chased the mob from the building several times.
They attacked the police a little after 5 p.m.
One officer was pushed through a plate glass door.
Two others became targets when they drew their clubs.
Fire hoses were turned on the mob with no effect.
Stones and bricks broke almost every window on the south side of the courthouse.
The police tried to discourage the assault by firing their revolvers down elevator shafts.
I feel like that's not good police work.
Unless there's hundreds of people in the elevator shafts, that's useless.
The elevators aren't attacking anyone.
Well, I think the idea is that they were trying to make it sound like they were shooting out
and the only place they could shoot without hitting something was down in the elevator
shaft.
It really just shows you the disparity between the value of life of a white person and a
black person.
In order to dissuade the white people from murdering the black guy, they'll create the
illusion of violence.
Meanwhile, they're going to fucking hang this man.
Yeah.
If he's lucky.
Yeah.
The shots only made the crowd angrier.
Well, that's a crazy effect.
That's shocking.
They seem pissed.
It seems like they'd be reasonable and go home with that white.
Or at least you don't get more angrier.
Instead the crowd battered, wait, so Mayor Smith and police chief Everseen arrived and
entered the building to restore order.
The crowd then battered down a door and a 16-year-old boy on a horse, William Francis,
appeared with several men hanging onto the horse's tail as he rode through the entry
way.
I mean, that's just awesome.
Yeah.
Now there's a guy riding a horse into a building on his tail.
His tail.
He's 16.
He's not even on the varsity football team.
Yeah, he's skiing.
He's JV.
Yeah.
JV.
And halfway through his life.
With the courthouse surrounded and breached, police chief Marshal Everseen climbed to a
second-story window to speak to the mob.
He got out on the window sill and the crowd began cheering and shouting and throwing rocks.
And Everseen was forced to retreat.
Next city commissioner, Harry B. Zimmin, tried to talk to the growing mob only to be drowned
out by shouts of, Lynch the damn Jew.
Was that person confused why they were there?
I think Everseen, now they're going after the Jew.
Jesus.
Well, look.
I mean, you got a building surrounding you.
You might as well kill the minorities.
Nothing will make you ditch the, like, don't kill this black man faster than, like, and
the Jew, too.
You're like, hey, you know what?
Actually, have at him.
Yeah, let's bring the black guy out here.
Let's get him out here.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of see their side a little bit more.
Now that I'm thinking about it.
Zimmin suffered a few blows from rocks before being helped inside by friends.
But mechanic John Thomas lauded the protection of white women.
He lauded the protection of, what do you mean?
If we were saying that, you know, it's great that women, white women should be protected
and this is what we're doing here.
We're taking care of white women.
Man, this mob, this just sounds like a very chaotic mob.
Oh, it's an idiot party.
This is a giant idiot party.
I mean, for someone to just in the middle of it, just be like, you know, it's great.
We're defending women.
It's just like, dude, not now, let's not bottom line it right now.
We're all a little fired up.
Let's see the mob broke through the police barrier and officers caps, badges and revolvers
were taken from them.
Most of the police retreated inside the building by 7pm joining Sheriff Clark and his half
dozen deputies.
Half dozen, yeah, pawn shops and the Walter G. Clark and Townsend Gun Company were broken
into for revolvers and rifles.
By 8pm, the mob had begun firing on the courthouse with guns.
Mayor Smith came out of the east doors on 17th Street to confront the mob.
He asked them to forget the prisoner and allow the firemen to put out flames that were beginning
as they were starting to set the building on fire.
Good.
More emergencies.
It is, the cause is terrible, but it is, it does seem like all the shit that we get
fucked with today, you'd think we would be able to have some sort of reaction like this
to it.
I know.
Now we don't do anything.
But now we don't do shit.
Now we're just so apathetic.
Yeah.
And here it is just to kill a black guy, you've galvanized 10,000 people.
So you're saying that the heartening part of this story is that people care.
If you dig deep enough, what you can say is that people united for a cause.
Sadly, in this circumstance, it's disgusting.
It's a horrific cause.
But in this day and age, like I could never, like literally if we got rid of chicken fries
is the only way that I could see like people acting like this.
Like the, you know, the shit that we give a fuck about now, it's just, you would, to
see this, it would just, what, what would it take?
Oh, now you're right.
Yeah.
Anyway.
So the mayor's outside talking to the people.
He was then hit with a baseball bat.
Oh.
A head attack by the mob.
No, I will not give up the man, Smith said.
I'm going to enforce the law even with my own life.
The crowd took his words to heart, shouting, hang him, string him up.
With a noose around his neck, the mayor was dragged to the 16th street traffic signal.
What?
A rope was thrown, the rope was thrown over a bar and tightened around Smith's neck.
Then a man named Russell Norgaard saved the mayor's life by removing the rope.
Police reinforcements arrived with drawn pistols.
They took the unconscious mayor to Ford hospital.
I'll bet you that mayor fucking is switching positions a little bit.
Yeah.
Do whatever.
You don't have to go with the black eye stuff you guys were talking about.
Starting to sink in.
The mob rushed back, but you kind of be fucking impressed with the fucking white guy in this
day and age.
Yeah.
He gives up his life to save a dude.
Totally.
I mean.
That's very, I mean, and then we have a hero.
Well, and you all, like, I think we've been talked about this before, but like, it's so
hard to know, like, you know, how much of just the culture forms your mind.
Like to be an independent thinker, not even that this guy is doing it.
I mean, I'm sure he would be fine to hang this dude if he was proven wrong.
But the idea that you could actually, like, take a stance like that really is.
Yeah.
That's some fucking backbone.
That is.
The mob rushed back to the courthouse and the riot escalated as gasoline was thrown into
the building.
Starting flames forced the police to retreat to the second floor.
Firemen fought, firemen bought, brought hoses, which the crowd quickly hacked to pieces.
What's good is when there's a fire and you're going upstairs.
I mean, that's the one way to go.
Yeah.
Riders took the fireman's ladders and used them to enter the courthouse's broken second
story windows.
Sweet.
Good.
Like, I mean, literally, if you're in the building, you have to be like, it was a bad
thing.
The fire department came.
It was bad.
I get it, guys.
I get you had a good idea in mind, but shit is so fucked when you wish the fire department
never showed up to your fire.
While leading a charge up the stairs to reach Brown, 16 year old Louis Young was shot and
killed.
Policemen and sheriff's deputies took to the fourth floor with flames and angry men
below them.
Someone shouted, shouted, let no one leave.
Oh, boy.
The mob station armed men at every exit door.
Sheriff Clark led Brown and his 121 fellow prisoners to the roof.
But bullets fought.
That's the other thing.
All the other prisoners are like, what the fuck?
Hey, I'm getting out tomorrow.
It was jaywalking, you guys.
Guys, I'm sleeping one off.
I'm getting a little too drunk for this shit.
I shouldn't have drank all that alcohol.
So 121 prisoners are on the roof and then bullets were fired from nearby buildings
and they had to run back down the stairs.
Clark convinced the rioters on the stairs to allow female prisoners to leave.
Officers and deputies began telephoning their wives with their final words.
Sorry, that is a sentimental part.
It is funny to think of the moment when you're negotiating with these guys for them to actually
have a moment to be like, let the women go, let the women go.
Okay, ladies are cool.
What about the black ladies?
It's ladies night.
It's ladies night.
Those aren't ladies.
Black ladies aren't ladies.
Just the ladies.
You guys got the flyers, right?
It's ladies night.
Ladies night.
Okay, girls.
You coming out of the mansion tonight?
It's a ladies night.
And then at the bottom of there, there's almost like a bouncer to the outside who's like,
yeah, but two more have to come in before you can go out, ladies.
Sorry.
Sorry about that.
I was just doing a head count.
Okay.
So the cops are calling their wives and saying goodbye.
Deputy clerk of the court, Assel Steer, realizing that several large record books were threatened
by the fire, made his way through an entrance and went to his office where he carried several
district record books to a vault and safety.
Along the way, he found three wounded police officers and he took them into the vault and
then someone slammed the door behind them.
Oh, fuck.
Trapped in the blazing building.
What?
The four men broke through a wall and escaped while being shot at.
Bad vault.
That's fucking amazing.
Amazing.
Not a good vault.
Shitty vault.
Not a good vault.
It's just a door.
And we'll use the side.
Hey, you know what, let's put a big vault, a door on this closet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
10 officers in courtroom one on the fourth floor were threatened by the flames, but their
call for help was refused with calls of, let them burn, bring the nigger down with you
and we'll hand you a ladder.
From the west side of the building, three slips of paper floated down, scrawled on one
of them was, come to the fourth floor of the building and we will hand the nigger over
to you.
Oh my God.
The nigger placed against the west side of the burning courthouse and two men, one with
a rope and the other carrying a shotgun rushed up the ladder to the second floor.
From there, they performed an aerobatic climb to reach Brown and his defenders two floors
up, but by now it was dark and the automobile headlights illuminated the window ledges as
they climbed.
So the shouts and shots came from the building south side.
They yelled, Brown was in the hands of his executioners.
Sheriff Clark claimed he surrendered Brown to save the lives of the police officers and
deputies, fearing they would be killed if the struggle continued.
He's right.
He is right.
He is right.
But it's still fucked.
It's the most horrific decision you have to give up an innocent guy so that other innocent
people can live because there's insane people outside.
I had Will Brown moaned to Sheriff Mike Clark, I am innocent.
I never did it.
My God.
By the way, I am innocent.
By the way, I mean, that's the elephant in the room that probably not I've almost forgotten
about at this point is that this guy didn't even do shit.
Didn't do anything.
He was just in a house.
He's just a guy.
He had a white roommate.
He had a white roommate.
White roommate.
Yeah.
White roommate, red flag.
The day after the riot, a youngster said he read the note that urged others to come to
the fourth floor and get the nigger with two friends.
He followed the instructions and somebody handed Brown over to 30 men who had come up
the stairs.
They tied a rope around his neck and dragged him to the south side of the building.
He was beaten into unconsciousness.
His clothes were torn off by the time he reached the building's doors.
Bloody he was taken down the stairs and handed over to the waiting horde to hang him.
Several men pulled Brown's body into the air as the crowd cheered.
There he died swinging by the traffic sign.
The swaying body then became a target for gunfire.
He was riddled with bullets.
Lowered after 20 minutes, Brown's remains were tied to the end of a police car that
the mob had seized and dragged to the 17th and Dodge streets.
There he was burned with fuel from the red signal lanterns used for street repair.
Brown's tried remains were then dragged behind the automobile through downtown streets.
Nebraska born actor Henry Fonda was 14 years old when the lynching happened.
His father owned a printing plant across the street from the courthouse.
Henry Fonda watched the riot from the second floor window of his father's shop.
It was the most horrendous sight I'd ever seen.
He locked the plant, went downstairs and drove home in silence.
My hands were wet and there were tears in my eyes.
All I could think of was that young black man dangling from the end of the rope.
Estimates of the crowd vary from 5,000 to 20,000.
As it dwindled, US troops began finally arriving in response to request for assistance.
Colonel West ordered two companies to the courthouse to restore order and sent a third
company to the Black District as a precaution.
While the troops marched, Brown was being lynched, burned and his body dragged around
the city's downtown streets.
The next day, special trains brought reinforcements from army camps in Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota.
Eventually 1,600 troops were on duty in Omaha.
You want to talk about the Packer Clock anymore?
Can I just say that when people talk about horrible isises, this is not that long ago.
Yes, everybody knows.
Well, that, I mean, honestly, the problem is that, yeah, exactly.
There's no perspective.
No perspective.
I mean, if you like, I always think that about like the Middle East, like it's terrible
when somebody's killed.
It's terrible when anything like this happens, but you also have to think that like, there's
like a generation of babies in Iraq who have like enormous heads because of us.
And we like, in this period until 1930, we killed thousands of black people.
Yeah.
And we really don't.
We really just have no interest in reopening it.
How is this not taught in the history books?
Yeah, right?
It's fucking disgusting.
And you would think, like, and it just, like, it really is true that like the, I guess the
problem with racism in this country is that it is, it's like a drinking problem in a relationship
where you just don't want to talk.
You just, you don't want to rock the boat because you don't want to like not live together
anymore.
You don't want to talk about the drinking.
Yeah.
But really what you need is the therapy to be like, holy shit, we've got a lot of problems
here.
Purge them and then you can move forward because if you think about the shit with the cops
now or even the reaction of the cops now, it's the same sentiment different times.
We're still killing black people just legally.
Yeah.
Which is the fucking, yeah.
The courthouse was in ruins, completed in 1912 at a cost of $1,500,000.
The damage to the building was estimated at $1,000,000.
Tax records were burned as were land indexes in the office of register of deeds.
The county clerk's office was gutted and furnishings and equipment and other offices
were in shambles.
Plus you need to fucking, you know, fire the vault guy.
Right.
The vault guy is an idiot.
Three men were killed as victims of the mob's fury.
Will Brown, teenager, Lewis Young and H.J.
Huykel, a businessman who was walking down the street two blocks away when he was shot
in the abdomen.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
I loved it just random.
There you are, Huykel, you son of a bitch.
Oh!
50-some individuals were injured with cuts, bruises, beatings and smoke inhalations.
So think about the initial crime.
And now three people of your own race who matter are dead.
Well, two people of your own race.
Yeah.
County attorney Abel Shotwell proclaimed the law would be enforced and the rioters prosecuted.
The army began to arrest mob ringleaders on the basis of photographs confiscated from
the public.
General Wood personally interviewed several suspected mob participants.
The army confiscated photographs of the riot from the public and began identifying and
arresting a hundred men accused of taking part.
So they would all take pictures with the body.
That was like a big thing back then.
Oh my God.
That was a big thing back then.
You would take pictures.
You would watch people smiling and hanging out with the body.
It's really cool.
It's a good time.
The police compiled their own list of 300 alleged participants.
One of the names high on the list was Milton Hoffman, the cripple.
Who had worked as Denison's secretary.
Oh, fucking A.
Hoffman was accused of leading the mob from South Omaha to the courthouse and whipping
them into a frenzy.
Get the fuck.
As well as reporting the original rape and saying it had happened to him.
Denison got Hoffman out of the city to Denver before he could be arrested, where he worked
for another gambler for seven years before returning to Omaha.
50 men took the grand jury's oath on October 8, 1919.
Sheriff Clark selected a 16th, Henry H. Dunn, a Denison loyalist and former chief of police.
October-November indictments, including counts of murder with revolvers, hanging, striking,
beating, bruising, wounding, shooting, choking, strangling, and suffocating Brown, along with
arson, breaking and entering, and inciting others to the same acts.
The grand jury issued 189 indictments.
12-year-old Sol Francis was the youngest to be arrested.
12?
He had urged other writers to follow him as he climbed a ladder.
But who the fuck?
I mean, look, get all the fuckers.
And you shouldn't be listening to a 12-year-old during a riot.
Well, his brother, because the other kid who rode the horse was also named Francis.
He was 16.
So I think the Francis family is pretty fucked up.
Yeah.
But they're leaders.
They're leaders.
Look, listen, a 12-year-old could come and tell me anything right now.
I'm probably not going to listen to it.
Okay.
Okay?
Fair.
Only a few...
Come climb this ladder, mister!
Oh, woke, of course!
Only a few of the arrested were ever prosecuted, mostly on minor charges.
Two exceptions were Ralph Snyder and Claude Nethaway, both charged for Brown's murder.
From atop a burned police car, Snyder had shouted, We have showed the nigger what a
northern mob can do.
They were found not guilty after a brief jury deliberation.
Mayor Smith said he was positive that a man named Davis was one of his assailants.
Davis was charged with assault to murder to do great bodily harm, conspiracy to murder,
unlawful assembly, and rioting.
Davis claimed he was home during the riot and was not convicted.
Now, how's it home, you guys?
Yeah, it's the way you heard the guy.
He's at home.
Well, not much else we can do here.
Your story checks out.
That's pretty open and shut there.
He's got a great alibi.
Take care, my man.
Sorry about that mix-up.
We didn't realize you were at home.
Oh, okay.
Thank you.
I'll see you later.
Okay.
Take care.
Despite the presence of thousands of people, few cooperated with law enforcement.
A conspiracy of silence protected the participants.
The grand jury report said people in the mob were under the influence of liquor.
They had been fueled by local saloons.
The courthouse gang had urged the crowd- Did everybody just get shit-faced all day during
the- I mean, is that really- It was basically what would happen, right?
Well, who owned the saloons?
Of course.
But in general, it just seems like- He was giving out free liquor.
Yeah, but- What would you do if you're in a riot and there's free liquor?
What do you think I'm gonna fucking do?
Turn it loose.
I'm gonna fucking party, bro.
I'm gonna be looking for coke.
The courthouse gang had urged the crowd to drink up and spur enthusiasm for the task
in hand.
And most importantly, the accounts of black rapists turn out to be white men in black
face.
Uh, one more time?
If you're about to say what I think you're about to say.
The- All the accounts of black men attacking white women in the Omaha B were just white
guys.
They were investigated.
It turned out that they were white guys in black face.
You can't even look at me.
People on one side pointed the finger at Denison.
His supporters said he would never do anything like this.
Denison never had anything to do with that riot, they said.
Denison's stalwart William Billy Mayer denied the old man had anything to do with the riot,
but added, I don't say he didn't get a kick out of it the way it ruined the administration
that was in.
That guy should not be talking.
There was no evidence to prove Tom Denison's direct involvement in Brown's death.
But his longtime relationship with the Omaha B, his campaign to discredit the Smith administration,
his political and legal influence, and his connections with Hoffman seemed noteworthy.
Hoffman, the cripple whom was with young Miss Agnes Lowebeck on the night she was allegedly
raped.
I'm glad at least he still gets called a cripple.
Yeah.
On the night she was allegedly raped by Will Brown, it turns out Milton Hoffman was Denison's
employee.
His uncle had recommended him to the old man a few years earlier after teenage Hoffman
completed a business course.
He worked as Denison's secretary, assisting with election ballots and voting before he
was 21.
Milton Hoffman disappeared right after the riot.
He went to Denver where he married Agnes and where he worked for one of Denison's closest
friends.
There they returned to Omaha where they, later they returned to Omaha where they spent the
rest of their lives.
Fuck this.
There lived voices of condemnation were heard, but mostly a consensus of acceptance of lynching.
Even approval was typical in Omaha and other cities.
The violence did not evoke any initiatives to assuage racism or improve conditions for
Omaha's African-American community.
Two years after the riot, the Ku Klux Klan formed an Omaha Clavern.
Mayor Ed Smith was politically damaged.
Denison's machine won the next election.
During Henry Fonda's long career, two of his best movies, Young Mr. Lincoln and the
Oxbow Incident, featured lynchings as major plot points.
Jesus Christ, dude.
That's America.
That one is fucking dark.
I told you it was going to be dark.
Good God.
That's awful.
I've been avoiding the black riots and the just straight-up horrific murder of towns.
Rosewood.
Towns were obliterated.
St. Louis.
Hundreds were killed.
There's another city.
I think it was in Arkansas.
Just obliterated.
It went on for like 14 days.
But then I was like, well, fuck.
It's a history podcast.
And this is America, right?
And I think you're like, like I was saying, I mean, you know, I think you should know
that it's good to know this shit.
Nobody knows this.
It's good to know.
It's not nice to hear, but it's good to know.
No, it's not nice to hear at all.
But sorry, you guys, sorry I bummed you out.
Jesus Christ.
Welcome to history.
The next one we'll do about balloons.
Yeah.
Look at mine, man.
Give me the space to play.
The next one's a lot lighter, the one we just did.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, for me personally, the order switch would have been nice.
You would have had the other way around.
I think that this would have dragged into the other one.
Probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess if you listen to the next one, I don't think there's a right way to handle
it probably.
There isn't.
But yeah, but the next one certainly doesn't seem as tragic.
I remember some of that information, I was like, Jesus Christ, man.
You're such a fucking vile country.
Vile.
All right.
All right.
Can't wait to see it.
It'll be fun when it's time to just kill white people.
That'll be interesting.
See what happens then.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When the Mexicans commit a genocide against white people and we'll be like, how could
this happen?
Let's talk it out.
All right.
All right.
Have a nice day.
All right.