The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - Governor Evan Mecham - Part two

Episode Date: October 26, 2021

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I sleep done, my friend. No, no. Ronda, Ronda, in the car. Anything else? We were talking about an American icon. When you left us last. Evan Meacham. Do you shout a new date now?

How does it work? Well, we might just do that. Yeah. Yes, last episode, part one of Evan Meacham, Governor of Arizona. It ended when things were finally coming out of chaos and a new light. That's right.

That's right. August 15, 1987, year of our Lord Joseph Smith. The Green Bay Packers played the Denver Broncos. Packers, let's go, Broncos. You suck it. You suck, Broncos. My high, nice try. Let's do this.

But it's just a pre-season game. That's right. But even in the pre-season, we're going to pre-win. What? I don't know, man. I really went all in. Did you? Yeah, I went all in on celebrating it.

And then you said it was pre-season and it's from the 87. I was going to look at the score and I totally forgot, but now I'm going to try and do it. Come on. Well, let me think. I'm going to go ahead and guess that the Packers lost. 1717 tie. What?

Someone went to that pre-season game and was like, I got a tie in the pre-season? That is crazy. Shitty sports bingo. That is really, yeah. I mean, I guess that's pre-season, right? I mean, there's ties in pre-season. There's ties in the regular season.

Oh, that's right. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, it's a great. It's always a really good feeling. OK, so they played in Tempe for a pre-season game and Governor Evan Meacham was asked to toss the coin. Oh, God. As he walked off, he was yelled at, booed,

and a security was pelted with ice. Head's approval rating just dropped after this. 70,000 fans chanted, recall, recall, recall. I think they want me to do the coin toss again. Evan said he had not heard a thing. That's how it always works. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't hear that.

They were all booing and they were shouting, recall. You didn't hear that? After he was screaming it, there were signs. I didn't hear anything. There were signs. They were holding them up. They were shouting it at you. No, I think the way out.

And the guy said, I represent everyone here and we are going to recall your ass. No, I don't think that happened. I think you're not hearing correctly. We were everyone was mostly focused on the coin toss. What did you think they were saying when they were going boom, boom, boom to the state? You're a boon.

You mentally have gotten yourself to the point where you think they're saying boon. Yeah, oh, for sure they were. Yeah, they love me in this state. I'm the governor. If they didn't like me, they wouldn't have elected me. That's how governing works. Right, OK.

Some people say I'm like a double governor. What about when they were all saying, fuck you, meet him? I don't think that's what they were saying. What did you hear when they were going boon, and then the guy started throwing beer at you and he goes, fuck you, meet him. What did you hear when that happened? Shucks you.

Shucks you. Shucks you, meet him? No, I wasn't meet him. Meet him. Shucks you, meet him. I think that's a player. It's probably his nickname. I'm looking at the roster right now.

There is not a player, but there's not a player on here that even sounds anything near Shucks you. Nickname, though. Nicknames are nicknames. But they were so good. It makes so much sense in the moment for them to be saying that fuck you, meet him instead of. Why?

I'm the governor. They love, they voted for me. Right, OK, OK. I'm doing the people's work. Where's the coin? We can't find it. Don't worry about that. What?

Don't worry about that. OK. But afterwards, he had meetings to boost his bad boost as he left a meeting with black community leaders. My best friends. He told Donna, quote, that was a good meeting, wasn't it? They're almost like real people. Oh, how, how, how, how, how?

God damn it. Wow. It's so painful. How did he say it? But they're saying, how did he, how did that, how is it possible? They, they are, and it's like now in America, they're saying, they're saying the stuff out loud

that they've always said around their friends, but just not at like work. Right. And like, now they're like, oh, we're in power, so everybody likes this. Are we not in the clubhouse? Everybody likes this. So the recall is gathering steam.

That is a real, and she at this point is like, oh my. Yeah, and she's a terrible person. Right, and she's awful, and she's going, this guy's a shitbag. Yeah, right. The recall's gathering steam, any, any time signatures slowed, Evan would say something and they'd pick right back up.

Right, that's good. Ed Buck started consulting with a psychologist to figure out, so Ed Buck's the guy who's running the recall campaign. Right, he starts. He went up against Kip Shippy. That's right, and he starts consulting with a psychologist to figure out what to say that would make

Evan respond like an idiot. So he's going to a psychologist to be like, what can I say about this guy that'll make him pop off? You know, I don't get a lot of patience to come in with this particular issue. So we're just going to kind of pitch? God, he wrote up a list. He also met with a fisherman.

He wrote up a list of reasons to recall Evan and announced he would hand it directly to the governor. OK. But Evan refused to come out of his office, and of course, the press loved it. Right. It got more airtime than it would have if the governor had just come and taken the list.

And Buck now was constantly getting death threats. Evan also hired private investigators to watch Buck. In August, a New Times writer who grew up Mormon wrote a book explaining Evan wasn't acting like a car salesman. He was acting like a Mormon bishop. OK, which is good. Quote.

Good, very good. Right. So it's good to hear. Quote, there is no other upbringing on earth so perfectly designed to transform someone with weak wits into a monster. Mormon boys are told that when they are older, they will have direct power to act for God on earth.

I don't think that's their mission. It doesn't sound applicable here at all. At 18, as a right of passage. OK. Ministers got no psychology training or preparation for power. They think they can handle anything like Evan. She thought they were good Mormon men,

but there were also a lot of Evan Meachems. Right. Sure. It's like anything else. Yeah. It can take a already fucked up dude in terms of the. Yeah, and just, yeah, morph it. In September, the Dunesbury comic strip

began focusing on Meachem. And brought up his using the word picketing. Oh, God. Evan responded, quote, I don't use the word, but it isn't bad. Here, let's, I mean, can you imagine re-digging into the argument? I mean, really, the bait is so simple.

It's so simple. You don't even need, you just, it's like, here's where people, I remember when I was a kid when I just, like, I was, I wasn't fishing, but in my head I was fishing and I would take a piece of string and tie a piece of bread around it. Like that would be effective with him. Yeah.

You'd be like, whoa, there's a lot of fish here. I mean, he's just into anything. He, and he just, I don't use the word. I don't use the word, but it isn't bad. It's just the craziness. So why don't you use it? Yeah, if it's fine, then use it. Yeah.

He also said, I'll call them whatever they want to be called. Oh, good God, dude. What about people? Oh, my God. What about people? Or not they, they. Evan never took. In their culture, they also enjoy compliments.

Isn't that odd? Evan never took the recall seriously. He thought it was just gays and dems attacking him for being God's governor. So it was immoral and anti-constitutional. I mean, if you get to the point where you feel like you're God's governor. Yeah.

It is time for blowdarts. I'm sure there's several governors who think that they are God's governor. I think they're leading as such. 100%. Yeah. He kept saying they would never get enough people to recall him.

And his staff argued gays were being bust in to sign petitions. The old classic bussing in gays to sign a petition. It's the dumbest. They're on a rainbow bus with a unicorn horn, and they're coming here to undo all the good you've done, Evan. They're bussing them in.

But just imagine bussing people in. I think there's a pipeline. They're pushing them through a pipeline into voting lines. But just imagine bussing them in a vote makes sense. Bussing them in to sign a fucking petition is the dumbest. Evan appointed Horace Lee Watkins as deputy director of the Department of Administration, which gave out prison contracts.

This good. This guy's this guy's good, too. This is bag man. If you don't remember the first episode, Horace is the guy who got him a credit line. Yeah, I got him credit through these bad developers, secret $600,000 loan. Evan had made Horace head of his new drug force,

but he resigned in under a month. And the drug force then never happened. Cool. Feels good. So now he's going to be the Department of Administration. Quite a force. This guy. Now the message of being a reported Horace

had been convicted of armed robbery and served 14 months. OK, sure. To get more information. Right. Well, OK. I mean, at what point are we just going to get over the fact that this guy's terrible? That's the tip of the iceberg.

In the Navy in the 50s, Horace was arrested for theft and going AWOL. In the 70s, a business partner asked for accounting on funds and the business was burned down. Well, I just, I mean, that's. Don't you ever ask for your accounting again. I'll burn the whole fucking thing down. This is on you, Jimmy.

This is on you. You said, what are the numbers? Yeah. You said, what are the fucking numbers? You might get on it. So I had to burn the goddamn thing in the fucking ground. Or maybe the numbers? No, fuck you.

That's not how this works. OK, but it seems like potentially. If you want to open the books. Yeah. I'm punching the whole fucking thing. Well, why can't we get the books before? No business for anybody. Can I see the books before?

That's accounting, motherfucker. I don't think it is. That's how we do it in the OC. We're going to lose a bunch. Oh, yeah, we lost. Exactly. And it's your goddamn fault. I really just wanted to help.

Well, you asked questions, didn't you? My keys were in there. Yeah, I lost a lot of shit in there. Yeah, you have a lot of stuff in there. A lot of stuff that's now in my truck. Your truck is on fire. OK, I got a little out of control. I like fire.

Sure. I like accounting. Well. I went to accounting school. This is what I learned, a two-day school. I saved one of the books. It's right here. Have you heard of Jimmy Rizzo's accounting school?

Yeah, those are the ads that are really weird. Yeah. Right. Two days would take care of your issues. Right, yeah, I remember the slogan, yeah. If you're an idiot and act like a fool, go to whatever. Your name is school. Yeah.

Yeah, that's the guy. It's great. Yeah. Great. Jimmy Rizzo, you said? Yeah, Jimmy Rizzo. OK, sure. So he burns down that.

He gets into politics. He's living in Orange County. But he was upset. But he upset all the Republicans in Orange County because he spread rumors that a woman candidate had been a sex worker. So the opposing candidate, he's like, well, she's got to be a whore.

And they were like, even for us, that's bad. That's now they'd be like, great. Yeah, now they're like, perfect. After this, he moved to Arizona because he had so much debt. He wanted to get away from the, I guess, local debt. What brings you to town? I'm just running away from everything. This was Evan's guide to oversee the prison contracts.

Good. Yeah, this guy gets it. At the end of the month, Evan's office sent out a fundraising letter nationwide stating the governor was under attack by militant homosexuals. Oh my god, by militant. I mean, what's, it's just, again, I mean, I like. Yeah, the reality.

Can you tether things to reality a little bit? Is it possible? This was a pretty, from the 70s on, Anita Baker and all these people, starting in like, 76 has really ramped up this gay militant. Well, they figure it's working. I mean, it's also the time of their kind of like, you know, the erosion of the wall between church

and politics is also gone. So it's like, the floodgates are kind of open for these, you know, cultural wash issues and just, like, really, these wedge issues where you're just like, look, we're going to fuck you in every way possible, but you don't want gays to have houses, do you? Quote, this was in the letter. Quote, without your contribution,

I will risk being crushed by the millions of dollars the militant liberals and the homosexual lobby planned to spend against me. And he was asking people to move to Arizona. Like, we need more conservative people like you. They're blessing and gays to sign petitions. Well, I'm moving straight to him. Reporters asked who had sent the letter.

They're like, where'd the, so you sit down a letter about? Yeah, yeah. And first, Evan said the staff wrote it and a signature machine signed it everyone after he approved it. I like that that, okay. Well, I mean, isn't it crazy though? Doesn't that make you look more incompetent?

Wait, minutes later, Evan denied approving it and said he wanted to find out who authorized the signature. So he's just getting asked questions and he's backing off of what he said at the beginning. A few minutes later, Evan said he had approved the letter. A reporter asked him which version of the story was true and Evan lost his shit. He got in the reporter's face

and told them never question his integrity. And this is all on camera. And this is the first time the public had seen Evan lose it. The video was all over the news. Worse was that in his rage, he said, quote, don't ever ask me for a true statement again. There's your political slogan. You know, it's funny, I watched the video

and he doesn't seem compared to what rage is today. Right. It's just minuscule. Right. But back then, I think it was like, oh my God. Well, yeah, we've normalized all that stuff. But that is, like, if you're saying, if you're furious that someone's like,

which one of your things you just said is true, I mean. So good. So it was believe the chief of staff was suffering from early Alzheimer's. That's good. As the letter situation was spinning out of control, the new press secretary, so the old one left after what, a few months.

Yeah, what was that? It was terrible, though, yeah. So the new press secretary goes to try to talk to him in the bathroom. But he, quote, was standing in front of the mirror, sweating, folding and unfolding paper towels. He opened his mouth a couple of times as if he were going to speak out, but said nothing.

Wow. So he's. So the chief of staff is going into an Alzheimer's situation, and like, it's already a fucking mess. Yeah, I didn't know paper towel origami was one of these. Well, I think they do things they remember, and it's probably just a, oh, I fold paper. Where's the chief of staff?

He's folding paper towel in the shitter. But it feels like a memory sort of thing, right? You get like a loop almost. It's not good at a time of crisis to be like, no. He's folding towels. No. He's some, he's really, he's making a lot of little triangles in the bathroom.

And I think we should probably just leave him in there. So what was the question? I think he'd be better in there to be totally honest with you. More Republican legislators now bailed on Evan. Some started openly calling for him to resign. Now more people were pro recall than against. Now, do you think that the gay military has some sort of, I guess, bug they're putting in people's heads that

are making them kind of act this way? Because it's just, there's no reason for them to be turning on him. I'm just wondering what kind of, you know, in their DARPA development world that they have. I don't know what they call it in the gay military. But are they sort of, I guess, rocketing these dumb thoughts into people's heads

with their sort of James Bondi and gadgetry? Yeah, they probably have a machine that can fire out gay stuff. Look, if you can make a machine that can do a governor's signature, you can make a machine to do anything. That's right. Gay machines are terrifying. Pretty straightforward stuff.

So Barry Goldwater calls for him to resign. Barry Goldwater never really liked him. But he's like, people don't know Barry Goldwater. Barry Goldwater is like, you know, a god of conservatives. And he's from Arizona, so he's like a god of conservatives. It's like Conor McGregor telling you to calm down at a bar. The business community starts bailing. The Republican Party chairman has a second meeting

in his house on October 15th with all the higher ups. And Evan comes. This is actually about you, not for you. Well, they talk to him, and they try to talk him down from all the shit he's doing. And at the end, they think he understands. They're like, oh, he gets it. Which some people have just right.

Oh, he gets it right. But hours later, he was talking shit about Barry Goldwater on the radio. OK, so he gets it. He also said the media was out to get him. And that same day, everyone's out to get. Yeah, I mean, that same day, the Recall Committee announced it had 300 and 2000 signatures, which

is well over what's needed. OK. Now, this is the first. This would be the first governor to get impeached, I believe. OK. I think. I could be, or Recall, no.

Recall? Recall. No, that can't be right. Whatever. Forget everything I've said. This is the first time that anyone has ever been the governor. Good.

Great. OK, go. Meacham believed most of the signatures are fake. He's like, well, they're gay signatures. Well, the guys, they're not of that. By the way, at this point, it's time to sort of abandon the sexual division in here and just acknowledge that you're fucked.

But instead, he's like, a lot of those are from gays, so I feel like you only got 100,000 signatures. Real. And then 60 minutes ran a segment on Evan. After it was over, Evan thought he had done well. Evan, pretty good. I feel like that was pretty good. And everyone's like, no.

Really? It was not good. What show were you watching? That was pretty good. They got most of my stuff right. They got really, really. Yeah, it's not good. Because I'm watching it.

I'm going, bye. Yeah, it's a fluff piece. Because he sees himself saying this shit. And to other people, it's crazy. But to him, it's like, yeah, look what I'm doing. I agree with this guy. This guy's great. They should just call this show our.

We're now so many governor stories in the republic and Gazette each day that both papers had a table of contents just for Evan Meacham stories. Wow. So they're like, we need another paper. The Meacham Times. Special section, Meacham. But isn't this what happened with Trump?

Like, they just take over the news. And it is assaultive in the way that at some point, you're on the ropes, and you can't really absorb anymore. You're like, OK, it's the worst. But it's also why it's so frustrating when the media would inflate stories about Trump that were not really real. When there was so much meat on the bone

of terrible abysmal shit that you could just have a field day with. Because then it does give cannon fire to your opposition who's going, yeah, well, they missed report. You can cite this one thing. You do, that is why when you are a journalist or quote unquote journalist or whatever, it does matter the validity because it comes out at some point.

And then it just validates the one side that's fucking crazy. Yeah. So Nightly Newscasts created a Meacham report section. So each night they're doing, this is the Meacham stuff. And that brings us to the Reacham Meacham Hour. Reacham Meacham, how I'm broke out. He did a national media tour. Arizona was the time.

You know, the problem is, you're not out there. Arizona had now lost $14 million because of his MLK decision. So not that much, but enough. Yeah. Donna then finds a note on Eman's desk that described the illegal campaign loan, and she's freaked out.

She's describing. So imagine leaving that on your desk. She's a part of it because he had them, he had all of his staff sign a piece of paper saying, like, I'm responsible for $30,000 of this loan or whatever. So she now realizes, like, oh my god, I'm actually implicated in this because we all signed. They signed.

Yeah, I couldn't really understand it the way it was written. But it was basically like, yeah, they each signed like a promissory note of some sort. Well, that was not smart. Yeah, it was very strange. And she resigns on October 30th. OK. She and she worked with the district attorney who

opened an investigation into the governor. But so Donna told a reporter about the loan and the story was printed. It's all very obvious that Evan broke the law. Right. I mean, you can't just leave post it notes on your desk. Yeah, but they're fucking idiots. I know, but even then, it's like the bar for idiots

is higher. To Evan and supporters, this was a Democratic Party conspiracy. And the Dems had gotten Gay Ed Buck to register a Republican and start the recall. That's what he thought. Wait, say that again? The Dems had gotten Gay Ed Buck to register as a Republican

and start the recall. So he's like, it's got to be the Gay Dems. I understand. But I just was confused as far. Right. The switch, yeah. Right. So the press was involved.

Boy, this Ed Buck is really versatile. The press was involved, too, and lied that Buck was a conservative businessman when he was actually a communist trained in Yugoslavia to be an agitator spy. Why would they cover that up? Why would the media not give us the real shit? It's just so perfect. Makes sense.

Everything is crazy. It's a borderline narcissistic personality thing where they just think there can't be a reality. The reality can't exist because it's against what they need to be true. To think that you're that level, it is. The ego is just bonkers. They also believe Buck was fronting for the gay rights

liberation movement, whose goal was to turn Arizona into a homosexual sanctuary. Oh, man. It's just, it is, it's biblical catnip. It's just, it's Christ, it's just, I mean, it's ambrosia. It's just how, like, if you believe it, then, yeah, you're really, it'll work. But in order for someone to believe it,

you need to be like, what fucking planet are you standing on? Also, what in what fucking world do you think the gay people want to move to fucking Arizona? Or not only Arizona, this idea that there's like a gay state, it's just all so like. Well, I lived in San Francisco. It was a gay sanctuary of some sorts. It was great.

A sanctuary, yes. But the idea that this is like, that your lifestyle is going to be a state, that the goal is not to just like have an existence. No, no, no. It is to have a castle overlooking the subjects of gay town. But how great would it be to have a gay state?

Well, anytime someone is like that, that's why you're like, yeah, you know what, make, I want it. Yeah, I want the gay state. I want your Arizona. But turn it to like someone, like turn Iowa into the gay state. Like do it like a crazy place. Oh yeah, that'll go down great. Oh yeah, right, exactly, right, right, yeah.

So he thinks the Democratic Party is giving funds to Buck and his homosexual infiltrators. Sure. So Donna, so I go through the Donna stuff. So when the campaign loan story breaks, Evan says nothing, right? He's silent all day. OK, fine.

And papers start immediately calling for his impeachment. OK. The speaker in the house hired a prosecutor to investigate. And within a week, the prosecutor thought Evan should be impeached on these three different issues. Sure. Evan's chief of staff resigns.

Sure. Evan tried to hire a new one, but no one wants the job. This happened with Trump. Remember, people would bail. And then it was just like the pickings were slim. It's now a stuffed owl. More and more people, Republicans are saying you need to step down.

Like, people are turning on him. Right. As far as the loan, Evan said, quote, I'm not going to be paying it back. First of all, I don't owe any money. I didn't borrow any money. The campaign borrowed the money. I don't owe the loan.

I won't be paying it back. He then called the guy a loan of the money and said for sure he was going to pay it back. OK, so I mean, that distinction is also very crazy. Yeah. No, it's nuts. Yeah. My campaign, like, it has nothing to do with me.

It's my campaign. Yeah. The Recall Committee now had 343,000 signatures. Like, we're good. So people are just signing. We're good. They keep signing. We're running out of pens.

On November 3rd, the day before delivering the recall petitions, Ed Buck got a death threat, as did a state legislator. So the Recall Committee actually had the petitions in a safe house because there were so many rumors the right wing religious group, Posse Comitatus, Comitatus, would attack and destroy them. I've considered doing one of them Posse Comitatus,

but they're fucking scary as fuck, but basically, like, real Western, terrifying, religious fucking nuts. Like, really scary murders. Isn't it like, I can't even figure out what that means anymore because it is all so. It's why we just, I would say they're the ISIS of, like, they're really genuinely like, let's kill.

Right, right. OK. The Recall Committee. Thank god it's in this country. We'd have to invade it. So the Recall Committee, on the day they're going to turn in the petitions, they decide to have a rally at 2 PM

right in front of the capital building. And then after the rally, they were going to deliver the petitions in an armored car. But they got worried about this group. And so instead, they dropped them off in an unmarked van at 1130 because Buck thought Evans supporters would do anything to stop. To basically stop the petitions being delivered.

So were they riding in the gay military's tanks when they were dropping it off? Yeah, they have big, at this point, pink tanks. It's not rainbow color. Thank you. Pink tanks. So Planko's cops are now watching Buck to make sure he's safe.

A reporter thought there was a good chance Buck would be killed. Like, he talked to a reporter, a reporter's like, yeah, there's people that really want to fucking kill you. Cool. Thank you. The energy was already a bit worrisome. But I appreciate that. The day of the Recall rally, over 100 of Evans supporters

held a counter rally. And they're holding signs like the best governor in Arizona. The best governor there. Yeah. Oh, ever had, sorry, the best governor Arizona ever had. OK, OK. I didn't read them. Meacham's an honest man that scares them rats.

So it's just all that kind of shit. Yeah, real honest. They believed Evans was wildly popular. And these zealots were overturning the elected governor. So they really think like he's popular, and these are just a small group of. It's just never going to end. At the Recall rally, a Loomis truck

came with duplicate petitions. So now they're just doing the Loomis truck for show. Oh, OK. Right? Oh, so these are the prop petitions. Yeah, yeah, it's a prop thing. Sure. And to see, OK.

I mean, I would have just announced, hey, we already turned in the petitions this morning. They're doing this because it's just like a symbolic thing? I think it's to show, I think they want a visual picture for the cameras. Sure. You know, let's see all the petitions. But people believe these are the real petitions.

Yes. OK. Just setting the scene for what I'm hoping is a fine, fine moment. The plan was to take them through the old. So there's a new capital building, and the plan was to walk through the old capital building. But the old capital building's like been.

It's like almost a museum now. It's been like sealed off. And it's just like this is the way things used to be or whatever. You know, they've got older stuff in there. Well, look at that. They used the separate church and state. Bongers. And then they would get in the building

and give them to the secretary of state. All for show, though. All for show. He's already got them. But capital security had locked the museum doors because of Evan supporters who they're scared of. OK. So Buck is blocked from getting in.

OK. So OK. And he starts to lose it. Buck does. Yeah. And they start fighting to get in through the door. OK. Security's holding them back.

Were any of them dressed like an elk or anything like that? No one's dressed like an elk, but it's a good question. OK. Anyone have brave heart face makeup? No one has a brave heart situation at all. It's just normal. Anyone take the speaker's podiums? Nobody took this.

OK. But those are good questions. I don't know why you would ask them. That is just strange. But remember, these are the pro recall people. Yeah, I know. They're fucking beating down the door. So the security guy in charge at the door is a black guy.

And Buck is getting more and more upset. And as people are fighting to get in, and he yells, quote, this baboon won't let us in. Yikes. Who to root for? Who to root for, gay, racist, or racist? I just. Everyone near the door all of a sudden got super quiet.

Oh, yeah. And some people just walked away. Holding up your placard, you're like, nah, maybe she was. This got weird. Want to go get a sandwich? Again, it's all pointless. The petitions are already inside. Yes, it is all pointless.

So Buck leads his group around the side to the House of Representatives. And he tries to run around security, but he was stopped. So he sprints to the Senate building. And as he runs, everyone's following him. What's going on? He's just so fucked up from all this, I guess. I don't know what's going through his head.

Because the outburst is terrible. But he's still like you would, I don't know, this compulsion to get these fake petitions inside there. So he's a little attached to the theater. I think he wanted the PR of him handing over the petitions, which he had lost out on already. Buddy, you're getting some PR right now. It ain't great.

So he's running. There's a crowd running behind him. Capital security is terrifying because they don't know what's happening. They have no fucking idea. Sure. So they militarized them. They get into the Senate building.

And finally, a senator is like, come here, Buck. And he takes him into his office and hands him a glass of water and is like, calm down, dude. It's fine. The duplicate petitions are delivered to the Secretary of State. And Buck would later apologize for losing his mind. The Secretary said it looked like one of the best

most legal petition drives she'd ever seen. Now, that same day, Evan told the guy who made the illegal loan that he didn't have any money to repay him. And the loans now do. Yeah. And the guy was like, well, that's not good. Damn, Governor.

Yeah. Governors don't pay back loans. No, I'm going to be like, I'll tell people. I think I'm a god. No, not a god. Not a god. Oh, what the fuck? Was that lightning?

Did lightning hit you? No, I thought you were going to throw something. So you're just sort of, what? Yeah, I think I'm hitting you with lightning. No, you're not. This happens to a lot of people who are religious. You think that you can shoot the Street Fighter 2 electric ball from your hand.

Yeah. You can't. That's for Ryu and Ken. Maybe I just don't. Maybe I just don't have enough faith. No, that's not to me the fireball hand thing. That can't be it. I'm not saying in the way that you are, though.

You sign most faith. OK. I was voted most faith in high school. In grade. Good. Well, it's a shame. Who was voted most likely to produce electrical currents from their fists?

Bob. No, nothing yet. Close. At this point, everyone is getting tons of death threats, including Evan. He got five times more death threats than previous governors. And you're all acting like, I don't know what I'm doing. Number one in death threats.

Reporters were told by police that someone was looking into their background seeking dirt to attack their credibility. So he's now investigating reporters. Imagine. They were given photos of PIs who were investigating them and a reporter ID'd one at a table next to him that evening at a restaurant.

That is the greatest. I mean, just for a PI to be out with a fake nose and like priest collar, you know, or whatever to just be like, hey, and I know that you're a private investigator. So what? What? Can I get mine to go? Excuse me?

I am not a private investigator. I am merely a Parisian priest. What have you? I'm so confused. What is a private investigator? Where we call, I come from, it is not called a private investigator. Or maybe it is because I'm so, the term is nebulous

and I'm not sure what it is. So why don't you speak? The man who's accused moi of being a, what is it again? A rival in a private investigator? I have a picture of you right here. Bob Jenkins is your name. Bob Jenkins is not. My name is Pierre Roteau.

I am a my ID in France. We don't have identification. That's not true. Yes, it is true. No, you do. You taste the man's finger to know where he's from. Here. Suck my finger if you want to know who I am and where I'm from.

Put my finger in your mouth. Put a few of curiosity about. That is my identification. Why don't you suck my middle finger? I believe that means fuck you here. Private investigator. I'm merely a man who has come to an oyster bar to try to have oysters.

And yes, I'm a priest. Yes, I'm a man. Yes, I'm a man who's a cloth. What? What? I'm a priest. You feel. You're such a stupid man.

Your accent goes in and out. My accent goes in and out. My accent goes in and out. You suck my recipe. You suck my. My accent goes in and out. What? You suck my accent in and out.

You're not even making sense. You suck my accent in and out. I'm never in and out. Can you actually say something in French? I suck my accent in and out. What do you have to hear me say? You're American. You know what to love about Americans?

Say it. You know what to love about Americans? Say, I like boats and I like to climb tall mountains. I like to climb tall mountains and I like to climb tall mountains. I like to climb tall mountains and I like to climb tall mountains. What?

I like to climb tall mountains. So are you a river, river? I found a river. It is a river in the river where you can find a あらほんの魚の雀 のギリの魚の雀 I mean, snitched. I mean, should we do go to the AG?

I guess that's a snitch. You go to the cops. It is, but it is. I mean, she reported a crime. And the same way that whistleblowers are snitches. Horace's friend, it turns out Horace's friend approached, sorry, Horace approached a friend of Donna's in a government building and said, quote,

Donna is a whore. She has a big mouth and there are some friends of the governor who are very angry. If she does not keep her mouth shut, she will take a long boat ride and never come back. We won't do it until spring or possibly summer. I don't know why you put the last part in there. Or that's what I was going to say.

Look, here's what I'm saying. It's going to be nice weather. The weather's going to be better when we fucking ice her. When we fucking ice her, she can wear like a nice summer dress. I think what would be nice, OK, is to obviously kill her. Yes, fuck yes. But let's make sure she has a good vacation at the end of spring flowers.

Exactly. So let's just hypothetically say we get our tickets to a show. We get her like some great. We just get great food. Shoot her in the back of the fucking head. Well, at the end of the week, when it comes Friday, good night, sweetie. But up until Friday.

But up until then, let's make sure it is a fantastic trip. I mean, the last thing we want to do is just make her scared. So there are actually some great resorts there. Sonora? Sonora is a great pitch. It's very nice. So that's great. So here's what I mean.

First of all, I cannot wait to rid ourselves of this fucking cancer. But Sonora is lovely. This snitches get stitches. They also get they get pool service. And they're going to get, I would say, room massages. Room massages. I would even argue that there should

be some sort of personal chef. Let's just think of, first of all, a big bath and a big. And by the way, she better enjoy it because boom. Goodbye, lady. I'm right in the fucking head. But are you relaxed? Boom. Yes.

I think it would be really nice to do something calming. They have these. Do you know what a float tank is? I do. Yeah. I think we could do something like that for her. Here's what we do. Here's what we do.

Here's what we do. Let's find out what she likes. Yeah. And we'll put a list together. Yeah. She's going to have a dream vacation. She's going to love it. Then we're going to kill her.

And I don't even know if we kill her. OK. I think at the end, at the end of the day, I mean, I think if it's a holiday, if it's a holiday, it's a holiday. Yeah. So we're not good at this. So Donna.

Let's just say she swims with the fishes. She's snorkeling. She's on a snorkel day adventure. We're very excited. The resort is magical. So Donna's go, Donna goes to the PDS, which is the state troopers. OK.

And they, they're in her position because they guard the governor. And now the governor's guy is making a threat. So they're like, well, go tell the governor. Sir, people are trying to kill. So Evan, she tells Evan and Evan's like, I'll take care of it. And oh, sorry, this is Donna's friend.

And so a few days later, she's no longer cooperating with a legal authority. So this woman. Who Donna's friend, right? She's, he goes, I'll take care of it. And then she's not changed. Right. OK.

The death threat situation is complicated because she'd first gone to the PDS who are in security and they didn't want to be involved as witnesses. They're not supposed to be. They're supposed to protect him. They're not supposed to be involved in the. The day to day. Right.

Evan ordered the head of the PDS. I want his head. I don't want you to help him get me. Don't tell the attorney general anything. That's why they don't want to be involved. Oh, my god. Because it makes for a very complicated situation. And what?

I mean, you're just like, dude, my job is really not like this. And Evan also told the head of the PDS that he didn't think Horace was a violent man. And Donna wasn't in danger. Although 22 years before Horace Watkins had been convicted of assault, which actually was a rape. So he was actually dangerous. That's convincing.

Evan did a live interview but said he didn't want to talk about the death threat on air. And then, of course, they asked him about it. And then he denied knowing anything about it. One of the PDS officers, Evan, had now transferred away, was watching and was pissed because he was like, no, you fucking, I watched the whole thing play out. And he's saying he didn't know anything about it

when he watched the guy. So they're in a terrible position. Yeah, it feels like at some point, there can be too many lies. Yes. On November 23rd, the governor told Hollis Horace to return to work. Horace's lawyers had him take a lie detector test.

Which is always good when you're coming back into work and they're like, first thing's first, let's just. The press knows how bad he is. So they're like, take a lie detector test to say you're not involved in this stuff. So his lawyer's like, OK, take a lie detector test. And then he goes on and tells the press that he passed the test.

Sure. And he's not lying. Can we put you on a lie detector about taking the test? Well, no, they were like, can we see the results? And he's like, no. And then they're like, who can we ask you the polygraph examiner was? And he goes, no.

No. Can we know what the questions were? And he says, no. No. So it feels like in a lot of ways you didn't take one. Maybe he didn't pass it? No, no, I passed. Can we see the results?

Yeah. OK. Yeah. But they're sealed. OK, so once they're unsealed. Well, who sealed them, though? It's just you and Horace that said this all the time. No, no, there's another guy, the sealed guy.

He came in. This guy, I don't want to peel back the curtain too much. But this guy, he's a real dickhead when it comes to sealing. Basically, we had it done, and we was about to bring it out. Then this guy comes in, and he prematurely seals it. Now legally, we got to leave it sealed for another six years. That's not a thing.

And then we'll take it out, assuming this guy doesn't reseal it, which I hope he doesn't. Just because a guy seals it doesn't mean he can't just open it up. This sealing adhesive he has. There's not anything in our science or physics that knows how to undo it. So basically, this guy has put the results, which

are very positive. Obviously, there's not a lot of lying going on in this place. I can tell you that. But this guy, he's put a force around this envelope that we can't even put like a laser tru. So this whole thing is not as guys. He's opened it from the side. The side?

He put on the side of Wizards curse. This guy had a staff. Look, he says, can I bring my staff? I think he's talking about five or six people who work for him. He ain't. He's got one of these big skulls and these eyeballs in the skull. They turn their rubies, but they turn real purple

laser-y when he's doing it. And he does that on the side. So he's got that force field on the side, and then he's got that impenetrable force up the top. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I know, it's when I said to the guy, go, buddy, I go, I got to take this outside. A bunch of people are going to take a full of shit.

He goes, I don't want to tell you. Then this fucking kind of big fiery hole opens in the wall. I know. I'll tell you. If I hadn't seen it with my own fucking eyes, I wouldn't be bringing it up. You know what I mean? So this kind of like this big hellish hole opens up.

And then I just kind of get a quick glimpse of it because he's walking through there right away. He's got a bunch of like skull dogs following him. And it kind of just looks like it's a path. And I'm like, where the hell does that guy? By the way, I don't have answers as far as where it goes. But so then it closes up. And I'm going, all right, where's the results?

Guess who fucking took him into the hell wall with him and his skull dogs and his staff? Well, I don't think I need to tell you twice. It's that same guy, the guy who did all the sealant stuff. Now, my hope, best case scenario I think for everybody, is that in six years, this guy comes back and then we get our answers. Until then, I think Horace is willing to go without him

as long as you guys aren't going to be dick shits about it. Well, have you just taken another one? Well, I mean, I don't even want to get into it, but the guy took the whole thing with him and he goes the whole apparatus. And then he goes, Yeah, well, you can just get another one. No, this is the thing.

We all die if we take another. Yeah. He just had so many stipulations, it was fucking wild. That makes sense. We're just gonna, as reporters, we're just gonna write up that he lied. Well, I think in six years, you can do that if you get,

once this guy comes back to it all, fireball. So in six years, he can't. So that's what the tests revealed then, because you know, in six years, No, no, they'll be unsealed. No, he'll be vindicated. I know, but you said in six years, we'll know he's lying. Buddy, buddy, buddy, I just was dealing with,

I basically a skeletor from a hell wall with skull dogs. Okay, I'm sorry if I didn't answer you. He passed the lie detector. How do you know? Because I was given a disc with the information that I ate. Okay. You're a... A doctor.

I gotta go. I gotta go. So in late November, a jury ruled against Evan in a private trial over a solar invention, a man had brought to him. This was like years before he was governor. It was supposed to go on mobile homes to reduce bills. And so Evan got investors and then he sold his 51%

in the business to his own company and then fired the inventor. Can you imagine a time when the right was after solar panels? No, I love that that's what you take away. No, it is amazing. So he basically screws him completely and then is on trial. So the guy sees him and the jury

awards the inventor 864,000. Wow. Now the New York Times... Does he owe that or does the campaign owe that? Because that's quite a distinction. He does. Okay, because the campaign is a completely separate entity from him.

The New York Times now learns that Evan has been sued 36 times. So every time they look into him, they just find, you know, just tons of shit. Uh-huh. In an interview, Evan... It's a lot of times. In an interview, Evan promised he was going to quote,

lay it out in its entirety about the campaign loan. Finally, some answers. Then he refused to answer any questions about it during the interview. Finally, some questions. But he did blame his brother. Finally, some answers. An answer.

Kids around the state started saying Willard did it and a bumper sticker with the same phrase became popular. Willard did it? It's his brother. Oh, Willard did it! I'm going to use that. Oh, I want to get these bumper stickers. Willard did it.

Uh... Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You're treating your body like a playground up there when I walked in to fold your t-shirt. Willard did it! Yeah. Yeah.

Evan stopped talking to the press. His press secretary threatened to have... In a lot of ways, he's already stopped talking to the press years ago. A long time ago. Yeah. His press secretary threatened to have reporters who got too close to him arrested.

I mean, the term press secretary feels a little loose. It's enforcer. When he did try to explain the loan, he constantly changed his story. Oh, God. Evan refused to cooperate with the house's investigation and refused to turn over any documents. Is that going to be tough?

On December 13th, during a speech to a conservative men's Jewish group, Evan was asked about calling the US a Christian nation. And he said it was. Here we go. He said it was and quote, if that's a problem for anyone, then that is their problem. And some men got up and walked out.

He's just really good at connecting with his audience. It's amazing. It's just this, the Christian way is the only way. And he sees nothing else in his... He just has no political understanding. Like, he fucking is governor because the other guy just blew all his money on consultants. And then it reigned and like...

Well, it's also, I mean, it would be one thing if the stuff he was putting forward were like, if he was, you know, legislating like that, it would be one thing. But again, it's just complete chaos. It's like, it's not like it's all criminal. So it's like, I mean, I don't know at what point criminality trumps religion, but at some point it has to.

No, why would it? No, why would it? I guess you're right. It's a good point, Dave. He does this speech and the Anti-Defamation League called him insensitive and Evan responded that he wasn't insensitive and that he had a Jewish lawyer. Jesus Christ, wait.

Hey, no, I can't be, I got a Jew, I got a Jew guy. Didn't that happen recently? That has happened so many times. You know what that happened with was, what was the name Roy Moore? Oh, Roy Moore. Roy Moore's wife was at a thing and she was like, our attorney's Jewish. And everyone was like, oh, our apology.

Oh my, here we are thinking that you subscribed to tokenism. The Atlanta constitution ran an editorial calling Evan a national embarrassment. Now it's the Atlanta constitution is like this fucking other state. Yeah. Well, we've run out of bullshit here for a minute.

The loan situation went to a grand jury and Evan went in and was questioned. And in front of the grand jury, he said he had not disclosed the loan because he'd paid it off before the end of the year. And he had not listed it because it had gone to the campaign and not his personal debt. There it is again.

And it was his personal debt and he lent it to the campaign. And the loan didn't have to be reported as a personal debt. So he didn't have to pay it back to the end of the year. So the jury couldn't follow any of it because it was all fucking contradictory and nonsense. He just kept saying shit. And then Evan also attacked his enemies in the grand jury. Good.

Evan and his brother were indicted. Okay. Oh, no. This is what it is. Willard. He's the first Arizona governor being indicted. Okay. Congratulations.

That's huge. That's great. Good for you. That night, supporters held signs at his home like great job, Ev, and we love you. He was called Ev. That's what everyone have. I don't even want to get into heaven.

I just want to get into Evan. Wait, hold on. We're going to rebrand our slogan one real quick. Okay, great. Boy, if heaven feels this good, Evan's got to feel better. Please let me leave. We need a week to think and regroup.

And we'll come back for the cause. Kill me? We will figure this out. Reporters from all over the country now descended upon Arizona. The house investigation continued, and someone broke into the office at night and tried to burn all the documents of the investigation

in the litigation file room. But who can't commit arson? Well, they did. They burned them all, but the documents were on a table in the conference room. They just burned a bunch of other documents. I'll tell you what, it got a little hairy back there, but we got the job done.

That's what matters. Now remember, we don't tell anyone about this ever. We still have all of it. It was in the other room. We burned the room that you guys talked about. Yeah, that's the file room. Yeah, we burned the file room. There's no more files.

They had everything just spread out on the conference table. But you didn't say anything about a conference table. I just thought you'd look around. Well, how close is the conference table to what we just burned? Oh, it's like three feet. Great, so then it's gonna catch for sure. No, it didn't catch.

So here's the deal. We never tell anyone. It's, the fire's out already. They put it out. It's not, everything's been saved. It's fine. Well, I'll tell you what. I don't know if you've ever seen people put out a fire.

The hose one gets all over everything. So my guess is that they hosed it up. So let's get out of here, and we never talk about this again. Why do you keep zipping your jacket? I really would like to go because I feel like the mission is accomplished. It's not.

And you're kind of wet blanketing everything. Well, I'm not really, really wet blanking as much as I'm saying anything. Okay, great. So we're agreeing that the, but they definitely got it. If you've ever seen a fire extinguisher go off, it fills the room.

It's like chemicals and stuff. So surely some of that got on the signatures and the ink and the paperwork. Why do you keep it? I'd really like to go. I just, I'm ready to roll. Stop zipping. Just, we're not.

Well, the mission's done. And I'm not gonna put my jacket on until you admit the mission's done. It's not done. Well, I would love to hear you say that you think it's pretty close because again, these firemen. Why are you zipping?

I feel like we're on the path to a... We're not going anywhere. All right. You know what, take off your shirt and then have the jacket on. We're in a lot of trouble. Okay, take off your shirt and have the jacket on. Okay.

I love that look. What is that? Where are we if I'm doing that? I think we're going dancing. Okay. I'll take it, honestly. I need a win. So, I think they,

someone tried to come back the next night and they saw like the same mysterious guy that was in the building. Hey, we re-burned the same room on accident. So Evan also had to give his state of the state address. Okay. And his staff... He's been going pretty well.

Yeah, and his staff and he were preparing and as they did, he broke down crying when Willard's name came up. Quote, how can they do this to my family? To my brother. He is innocent. He didn't do anything. He just got caught up in a political campaign.

He opened the account to fucking launder the money. He committed a crime. An innocent victim. Are you telling me you've never accidentally opened an account for someone that's not you and that's for something nefarious and didn't know about it? Yes. You're saying that that's never happened to you.

I've never done that. My mokidoki. Well, must be nice, must be nice. I did that last week, twice. You shouldn't say that out loud. Last week, I opened a bank account for a dog and for Nixon. Okay, don't. And I didn't even know what I was doing.

So Evan's all upset and he walks out into the lobby and is packed with reporters and spectators and Evan spoke, quote, it was a sad and tragic day for the state of Arizona and the nation to have to bear witness to a heinous travesty of justice committed by political opportunists in the Attorney General's office.

He's resigning. He's resigning. He's resigning, unbridled and flagrant abuse of the secret grand jury hearing. So now he's attacking the Attorney General. And again, it's just, how many different ways can you not be wrong? It really is culpable contortionism.

He attacked the Attorney General and ended with, quote, there is a God in heaven who will meet out eternal justice to all in the hereafter. I thank you. Can you imagine if there is a God when he meets Evan? He's like, what dude? Hey, man, I listened to every, I did exactly what you said to do, man.

Yeah, I did. No, literally. I destroyed my enemies. I didn't want that. I influenced people to hurt marginalized communities. I scapegoated. I lied. I fabricated.

None of this is in the body, I said none of this. In order to carry out your message. It's not my message. Sure it is. Get me in powerful positions and I'll, but I believe it in you. So whatever I do is right.

No. Yeah, have you even read the Bible? It's basically your biography, dude. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? What's wrong with you? I've been waiting to meet you my whole life. You're a fucking idiot. You're a fucking idiot.

I'm the one who's down there doing exactly what the Bible said in the Bible. And I quote it, do whatever I can to be in positions of high authority. That's not a thing. When if inside really do a bunch of crazy bad shit, cause fuck them. You're why I invented tigers.

That's an honor. No, to fucking kill you and eat you. Oh my God. Well, they're not getting the memo. They're dealing with gazelles. You see, you're a flawed architect. I mean a flawed architect. I mean, you're a flood architect.

By the way, this whole place seems a little outdated. Okay, get the fuck away from me. I would just say, maybe put up some curtains or something. Have you seen any of those curtains that you can put up with an electric thing, like a remote? Get some of that.

It's like the flamingo. All right, now seriously, where's the party? I'm ready to really cut it up in here in heaven. Don't I get a bunch of virgins and all that thing? No, no. That's- I definitely get to bang. No, no, banging.

Can I jerk off here? No, there's a pegging room. There's a lot of stuff you didn't get right, but there's a- You're cool with it? Super independent. Because I've always really wanted to try it. Super independent.

Thank you, all right. So he gives us state of the state address two days later. Things are good. Very upbeat. He's very upbeat. He doesn't bring up any of the stuff. Sure. The next day, while speaking-

And then after he was done, where they like, boy, that was a real leadership moment, but I think he finally arrived. I'm sure. Today's the day he became governor. The next- Someone wrote words that he said. Yes.

The next day, while speaking to the Phoenix Kwanines, he named three reporters and asked if they jumped off the Valley Bank Building, which would hit the payment first. His answer was who cares. It's a good riddle though. A day later, he accused another reporter of being gay. When discussing a recent trip to Asia, Evan said he had told Japanese businessmen

about all the golf courses in Arizona and quote, suddenly they got round eyes. Oh, my God. I mean, is he doing it on purpose? No, I think it's just- He's surrounded by people who talk like this. He is just that level of- It's just, it's very-

It's a bubble. He lives in a bubble. It's an insulated world. Yes. Later to defend this comment- Like he lives in what the good witch in the Wizard of Oz comes down in. Yeah.

Okay. To defend this comment, he said, quote, some of them are having plastic surgery. I don't mean here, but in Japan. Ha ha ha. Dave, I'm about to home alone, Macaulay Culkin style this moment. I mean,

oh my God, it's almost like if you could, if you could bring in someone to teach him to not answer follow-ups. Yeah. You're a big battle would be won. No. Because it's when he clarifies a lot of times that you're like, oh my God, don't help, don't help.

Yeah. It's always worse when he clarifies. Yeah, always way worse, yeah. 65% of the state now wants him to resign. I mean, it really begs the question, what's happening with the other 35? The state Republican leaders get together again to discuss how to get him to quit.

And Barry Goldwater comes this time and he sits down and tells them stories about Evan, story after story. And when he was done, everyone realized he didn't have the integrity of Nixon and would not resign. Right. The impeachment investigation continues.

Most Republicans in the house supported it, but a solid group of Mormon legislators oppose it. And Evan met regularly with them. The Democrats mostly thought he should remain in office because it would destroy the Republican party. Well, I also hate that. I mean, the Democrat logic of, give us shit, we'll look better is the worst.

On December 16th, the director of the Department of Administration came into Rep's office in the legislature and took apart his phone looking for a bug. Okay. A loyal senator met with Evan and the whole time the governor kept a radio shaped like a Coke can playing and he said it was to thwart bugs.

It's gonna be a very reassuring meeting where you're like, cool. So still their plan is like play music. Yeah. And it'll be okay. Evan wrote a three page apology letter in the Arizona Republic. Whoa. In the Arizona Republic.

He said he should have hired a campaign accountant and didn't handle the MLK day thing well. The same day he sent legislators a letter saying he'd done nothing wrong. Okay. Good, good. It's like they don't know that leaks exist. Yeah, I really, I mean, it's so sloppy,

but it's also not like it's, you can be a sloppy piece of shit and remain in office if you get power. Senator John McCain and a representative John Kyle met with Evan to try to talk him into retiring. There are others in the meeting, but Kyle spoke the most. McCain just stared at the floor.

Evan was furious. His lawyer had to step in between them. That's good. As they left, McCain said, quote, let's agree to a no comment meeting. So they're not gonna tell anybody in the press. Nothing happened. And they all agreed.

Great. And then that night, get your pinkies in. That night, McCain went on the radio and talked about the meeting. Good. There we go. Classic McCain.

He's a maverick. Jerry, what did you expect? Such a dick. Horace resigned from his job in charge of prison construction when it was discovered he had not listed his assault conviction on his application for a state insurance license.

I'm starting to, I'm starting to worry this Horace guy might be bad news. It feels, yeah. It feels that way. Slowly, but surely, if you listen closely, the devil's in the details. Evan said, quote, he was doing a good job. Yep, of course.

Heck of a job, Brownie. On January 15th, 1988, the investigator presented his report to the house. There were three main allegations, the loan, the death threat, and Evan taking money from a public fund and using it for personal reasons. Okay, they feel very strong.

Yes. The report was very damning. Impeachment hearings began. The Arizona Republic printed a story breaking down Donna Carlson's time in the administration. The public learned how scared she actually had been by the death threat. One of Evan's staff explained, quote,

I think that Watkins' advice to Donna was good advice and the best that I can remember it came something like, tell your whore friend Donna to shut her mouth if she could suffer harm, all right? I consider that a warning. I mean, like, what are you talking about? He's saying, like, he was just telling her,

like, I heard bad stuff. I heard that she might be killed. I mean, how else are you supposed to put it? How are you supposed to say, like, tell that whore, because they're all calling her whore in the office now, right, because she left, she walked away, she spurned them, so she's Judas.

So now they're like, well, he was just saying, watch out, the whore might get killed. Don't let her say, you guys are taking it out of context. Listen to the power of the word. It's not a threat, it's a warning. It's what we call a horning. A horn, a horn, yeah. A horn warning.

That's what they call horns. That's where horn came from. Now let's talk about horns. Evan went to the Phoenix Forum Breakfast Club and he was talking to a friend and people overheard him say, quote, do you wanna know why I had the radio on at home? Whenever I'm in my house or my office,

I always have a radio on. It keeps the lasers out. And the guy said, what lasers? And he said, the lasers for eavesdropping, there are eavesdropping on me, they're shooting lasers through the windows. Tonight on Maddow. I mean, wow, listening lasers.

Who told him? Oh, there have been rumors for a while. I mean, that is so crazy. There have been rumors for a while that Evan. Like, okay, tell me everything is bugged, but you can't unleash like. Lasers? Laser eavesdropping technology on us,

just casually. You know, they're listening to me with lasers. And they're recording all my thoughts through glass. What's like, one of the right wing reps said the Jews shot lasers from space to start the fires or something, remember that? Well, but to be fair, if memory serves, the Jews did come out and claim that they had done that.

Oh, okay. Eventually, yes. So right, there had been rumors for a while that Evan thought local papers or the attorney generals were using lasers to listen to his private conversations, but now they actually, a bunch of people heard him say it, so they're like, no, he actually fucking thinks that.

That's a real thing. I mean, so someone told them about listening lasers. Yeah. He thought the laser was on top of a newspaper building. And it wasn't just Evan. A staff member was crawling through the ceiling on the ninth floor looking for a bug when he fell and broke his leg.

I found it. They shot a laser at his femur. Evan used money from a public fund to pay people to sweep his office for bugs. One staffer kept telling people to whisper in the office. Has he ever thought about legislating? Like maybe a bill? I mean, they have all lost their fucking minds.

I mean, bug sweeps for laser bugs? That's how you know you're not getting out in the real world talking to other people enough when you're like, absolutely, we'll do the noon sweep for the laser bugs. So the superintendent at the state liquor department began closing his office blinds. He asked an employee to get on a chair

and look for bugs in the ceiling. He stopped a meeting with attorney general staffers because he was worried they were being bugged. And he took them outside into a parking garage and then finished the meeting with everyone standing beside cars. The lasers won't be able to get us. Everyone remember, we're near B3.

This is where we come when the lasers are hot. You know, sometimes I worried the closing the blinds isn't enough and that's when I come down to basement parking. Now, lasers cannot penetrate the no wall car port. They, lasers have a difficult time with concrete. Blinds are iffy, that's why I put them down. But you know where the string of the blinds

goes through the side of the blinds so that you can open the blind or pull the blind up. There are little pinholes through there where the string goes. And my worry is that lasers, they're gonna come up with blind lasers that they'll be able to shoot through that little pinhole. So that's why we're meeting down here.

Okay, so budget. I was just thinking about how Superman could shoot lasers with the eyes and then what are gay people doing? Well, we've got a lot of feelers out to Superman. So, but let's talk about budget. That's what we're bringing. Who's gay now?

Right, that's what we're here to talk about. Yeah. Great. Okay, good. Great, so. We want to pass a bill that makes Superman not gay. Makes Superman straight. Right, because you're worried now

that in the new Superman. Problem, he's gonna make everyone gay. Right. With his powers. Right. I don't think that's what it is though. I think so. When Evan was arraigned, reporters asked him

if he was confident and he said, quote, hell yes, I'm confident, I'm guilty. I'm not guilty. I'm not guilty. Doesn't that give you some understanding that I'm confident? Oh, all that work. Of course I'm guilty.

Not guilty, shit. Fuck. His driver then drove him the wrong way down a one way street. Good work. And he was like, it is a one way street going the way we're going. No more lies.

The prosecutor wanted to call Evan's ex-chief of staff so he got on a plane and flew to Australia. Okay, wow. On January 26, 1988, the Secretary of State informed Governor Meacham she had certified the recall signatures. He had five days to retire or face the recall. Evan responded by announcing a tax hike.

What sort of play, what? I want to be more unpopular. His budget was $100 million in the red. Wow. He'd been all about tax cuts. He's a regular Republican. But now he said a tax hike was needed, which is what Reagan did.

Yeah, exactly. And he would not resign. He told business leaders, quote, this is a little cleansing we have to go through and I think it's good. I really think this recall election will be good. Amazing. But that is what Reagan did, right?

Reagan's whole thing was, was to- No taxes, no taxes, no taxes. But also then to take the money that comes from social programs and put them towards the greater good somehow and then right away, he's like, ah, we need to start taxing. We need to tax more.

We need more tax cuts. Yeah, he cut, yeah. He was, well, he just agreed. The Democrats were like, dude, you need to raise taxes because it's a fucking shit show. He did. So Evan's lawyer advised him not to appear

before the impeachment committee and he did. He did appear or did not? He did appear, good, good, good, good. The entire state tuned in for it. Oh my God. Can you imagine? I would be like, man, I would be pausing it now. I'd be like, I just wanna wait a little.

So great. Quote, I have always told the truth. Integrity is the number one issue. That's what it's always felt like with his leadership too. Yep. He said the legislature shouldn't decide who is governor and to leave it to the voting public.

Outside, an old woman who was an Evan supporter hit Ed Buck over the head with an umbrella. Oh my Lord. That night, Evan went to Mesa's Sentinel Hall and met 2,000 cheering supporters. There we go. So he's leaving his impeachment hearings and he's going out and people are like, yeah.

It's definitely a time to celebrate. He told them, he saw hope in the hall. Quote, it is important to have. Hope's a friend of mine from high school. It is important to have. I think we're pretty fucked, to be honest. It is important to have a God as a co-partner in all governmental acts.

A co-partner. A partner, God. You're not even like necessarily below God. Co-partner. You and God are sort of, you know, yeah, kind of stocked and maloned. Yeah. Yeah.

The questioning in the house was brutal. Tapes of interviews were played contradicting Evan's statements. Okay. So. Is this back in a time when things like that mattered? Yeah, they did. Yeah.

So they thought they were going to wait until Monday to vote, because this happened on a Friday. But then Evan gave his concluding statement. And as he did, he became more and more angry. Good. And he attacked a house rep for a horse racing thing that he'd been cleared of years before.

So there's some sort of weird horse racing thing. You drugged a pony! They investigated it and it was like, oh no, he didn't do anything wrong. But Evan brings it up and starts attacking the guy, because he thinks he will win by attacking and discrediting the opposition. Every person slowly but true.

But the house reps are the ones fucking voting. So you're attacking. So all the house reps are now pissed. I was going to vote to a quid, but fuck you. Well, yeah, and they were, and they were going to wait until Monday, but now they're like, well fuck this, fuck this guy. So it caused them to hold the vote that day.

One rep is a devout Mormon and a huge Evan supporter. And as they go to vote, someone saw him in his office and he's in the dark and he's holding his scriptures. He's praying and he's shaking and he's on the verge of tears. Is he trying to convince himself to vote? Well, he knows what's right and what's wrong. He's like having a fucking breakdown.

Yeah. Because he's got to vote against his God. Oh my God. They hold the vote on Friday. One rep, like I said, he's like losing it. As the voting started, Evan was- Are you eating your Bible? Yeah.

Why? Is that not? It feels like- That's what we do. I'm trying to figure out how to vote. As the voting started, Evan was leaving his office to go to Lake Havasu City to meet his supporters. So he's literally like-

Right, let's go to the Campion Valley. He walked past his crying staff and touched them one by one, telling him it would be all right. He said he'd get to tell the truth in the Senate. The vote was 46 to 14 to impeach. That feels tough. The governor heard during his speech in Havasu. So he hears when he's there.

Right. Where he got- He's getting standing ovations. Okay. He was the first governor to be impeached on live TV. People loved it. 96% of people with a TV in Arizona watched. Of course.

Yeah. The Secretary of State- You want to watch the people's court or the governor go under? The Secretary of State became the acting governor. Evan vacated his office and his staff stripped the offices. Even the telephone books were taken. Sure.

In the Tucson office, an aide took everything, including the flags. Wow. He ripped the state seal off the wall. Oh my God. He's like, take this picture of Evan's. There we go. Now let's get the seal.

On the radio, Evan said, quote, if we give into these kind of powers that really are working to perform a coup in Arizona to replace a constitutional elected governor- Oh my God. This country is going down the tubes. Oh my God. That's the worst.

The person yanking the country down the tubes going, I'm worried we're going to go down the tubes. Yeah. 1,000 people came to a fundraiser named Bash Formicham Picnic to raise money for his defense. Who's hanging in there? The Mormons. I know, but I mean, really at this point,

the vibe at the picnic has to be kind of down. It's gotta be. Well, I don't know. Evan told the Senate he wanted an immediate trial to get back to governing. Sure. He kept touring a rural Arizona saying a few people in Phoenix had impeached him.

The Texas, sorry, the Arizona Senate convened for the trial. One of Evan's loyal senators said, quote, I don't care if Evan Meacham is guilty of having sex with a yellow dog in the intersection of McDowell and Central, I won't vote to convict. Well, it wasn't that intersection, but. I just want to see the pictures. What a weird.

A very strange place to go. Yeah. Very. I wouldn't care if he was dog fucking downtown. This guy's a friend. He could do anything. He said it was because the governor was pro-life and anti-tax.

There it is. Evan fired his lawyer and two new guns came in. Boy, getting that case must be exciting. Well, they had to fire the old lawyer because he couldn't afford to pay him anymore. Right. And the new lawyer said he would get the impeachment trial continued, which is not a thing.

Right. Okay. Right. Also, I mean, it sounds good because it's like a delay, but you're like, is that what anyone wants? It's also not. A long impeachment.

It's also not how it works. You just can't do it. It's just not a thing. Can I get a continuance? It's a fucking impeachment trial. Objection, you said it. I would like to delay this by like six weeks. I'd like to submit into evidence, exhibit, wait a while.

Wait a bit. Please. It's not a thing. His second lawyer. Can we call for a brief recess? His second lawyer was already one of Evan's insiders. And he was going to assist in the defense, even though he was supposed to be a witness

with the death threat. Wow. That's what I mean. He's like, can I wear different outfits? Okay, now I'm going to sit in the chair. Okay, now we'll do this part. When the trial began, Evan's second defense lawyer had the flu.

Okay. And his voice was high and terrible normally, but now it was fucking horrendous. Okay, so hold on everybody for a second, because I do need to contextualize a couple of things very quickly. I have a bad virus, and it is making it difficult to present in my normal voice,

but I think with some maturity and understanding and empathy, we will be able to get through this. Now, my client is, oh my God, my client. Are your balls going to drop? My balls have dropped, asshole. I have regular low balls. Okay.

Your honor, your honor, permission to go on for a while. Can you know? No. I have a bunch of stuff here to read. No, you're allowed four words. I don't like that. Thank you, you're done.

I want more words. No, sir. Did you mean four? You're being held in contempt. I can't, contempt. Ah, that's six contempts. Each word you get a contempt. Permission to approach a bitch.

Okay. Approach a bitch? No, and I said twice and it's more contempts. Hey, meet the bench. What's your deal? Hey. What? Stop talking.

I'm trying to get through to you, asshole. That's like 12 contempts. I can't just talk in four words forever. That's like 20. You're not talking anymore. Your voice is horrendous. Sometimes. No, say it.

I worry. Yeah. Quote, more than one present found craft's voice to be nauseating. Once. Can we get another bucket for juror six? Once as he questioned a witness, the chief justice told him to keep his voice down.

I'm trying. And the gallery cheered. Why don't you cheer for that? I have a flu. Have you guys never gotten the helium bug? You people. Those who live in glass houses. Okay.

What? Stop. Jesus. As far as the recall, 106 candidates were now running for governor, including Alice Cooper. It's also the same. Nothing ever changes.

Evan kept calling senators and discussing normal state issues. And so the Senate president had to ask him to stop until the trial was over. Oh, okay. Oh, you feel like we should put a pause on it? I want to talk about that new interchange. We're building out in Tucson.

Well, the problem is that, seems like you're politically fucked. I think we should talk about adding an extra line. Don't call here. Anyway, the one cent tax. Mrr. I'm making the hang of noise. This, so.

Fuck. Oh, the Senate president asked him to stop until the trial was over. The second lawyer was horrendous and often would drive home the opposite point of what he wanted to make. So this guy's just. The lawyer?

The lawyer. The lawyer, the high voice is also, I mean, it's like Trump's lawyers, right? The only people who will now work with him are fucking Julianian in that poutlet and they're just horrendous. Right, right, right. It's the same deal.

So you're telling me that there's a strong chance that me, Jim, was doing those things. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, well, well. I think that'll wrap up your testimony. Ladies and gentlemen, the juror box, please take note of this. No further questions, Your Honor.

I think that went pretty good. Evan's lawyers also kept attacking the Senate for getting the Senate was also the jury. The Senate is the problem. During the trial that was revealed, Horace Watkins had failed the polygraph test. Okay, so listen, we just got weird word. Weird word.

The governor now testified and. This is as, I mean, this is like as good as it gets. The two prosecutors bet which of them could get Evan upset and out of his chair first. Oh my God. So they just know he's angry. Right, he's just gonna pop. And Evan was a disaster.

This is what we all wanted with Trump. But. During the impeachment, senators kept bringing up their impeachment books to have him autograph them. Oh my God. Oh God, we are just, what are we? I mean, if you were to visualize our government, it would just be a body with its head so far up

its own ass, it's almost a new body. It's just so fucking crazy. Now in the middle of the. Can you imagine Arizona having shitty politicians? I can't. In the middle of the impeachment trial, Evan sold his dealership to raise money. Okay.

As the Senate voted, hundreds of Evan supporters held a mock funeral outside. There was a coffin labeled the Arizona Constitution. Oh my God. The Senate voted 26 to four to convict. Okay. Jan Brewer voted not to convict. Jan Brewer.

She becomes the governor. Oh, right. Jesus Christ. She's, I think she's the one that like wouldn't shake Obama's hand or something. And isn't she the one who also put in the, basically pullover, you can basically just stop anyone and ask if they're illegal?

Oh, I think so, yeah. Evan was shocked that he was convicted and he was almost in tears. They did not vote, however, to bar him from holding office again. They could have easily, they could have easily done that because I bet in the Democrats wanted to run again. It is this, it is terrible.

What a dumb, I mean, what a dumb desperate playbook you're operating from. In a private room, Evan cried and said quote, well, they don't like my politics. What buddy? Nobody knows your, I mean, you're just, you're not even, what are you? You're a tornado of hatred.

You are not a, like. We finished a political trial. It's as simple as that. Ah, well. Well, they just don't want a revolution, I guess. They hate God. It was April 4th, 1988. You know, God worships me in some ways.

That's true. It kind of looks up to me in a couple ways. Yeah, sure. He bows at my feet. God, I wish you'd just shut up. Say, every time you're going to say God, say Evan. Dear Evan, please shut up. Something like that.

It was April 4th, 1988, the 20th anniversary of the assassination of Martin Luther King. After Evan was tried in court with his brother, they were acquitted. So now in the actual trial, they get acquitted. I think it was like six counts. After the verdict, his lawyer asked

if Evan could address the jury. And the judge said, no, it's a court of law. You don't get to do that. Can he give a state of the union? No, it's not a, no. Can he? He just got, he got what happens. He's not guilty.

Can he leave him in a round of square dancing? No, what the fuck are you doing? It's not. If you have to say no, you have to say no. No. Simply ask. No to all of that. May he take them all out for a big meal?

I mean, I guess they can ask them. Will you come? No. Can they pay for the meal if I don't have the money? No, why? You can't ask people out and then not pay for it. Can the people decide to start a new trial if they enjoy the dinner and we go Dutch?

No, no, that's no. Yeah, it just feels like- You were acquitted. Why do you want a new trial? Oh, right. Yeah. No, I'll just take them out to dinner. That's better.

No new trial. I don't want to get convicted. Ha, ha, ha. Well played, your honor. If that is your real name. Ah. So he went back home to Glendale where all of his cheering supporters were waiting.

The next day he announced he was starting a pack called Forward Arizona to primary incumbent Republicans. There it is. I mean, it's just crazy. He was going to get rid of corruption and the quote, obsessed attorney general. I'll be drowning myself and the obsessed attorney general, yeah.

At the Republican State Convention in 1988, Mishim supporters joined up with Pat Robertson supporters and took over the party. Oh boy. Long time Republicans were booed and Evans Mishimites got ovations. At the end of the- Mishimites is a great,

it sounds like they make biscuits. At the end of the convention, they passed a resolution declaring the U.S. a quote, Christian nation, a republic based on the absolute laws of the Bible. Oh my Lord. Not a democracy. Oh my Lord.

Feels like, and like founding fathers hands come out of the grave, like. A reporter who covered Evan almost daily for two years said, Evan believes God talks back to him. In a bad way. Like a bad child. Hi, I'm God.

And State Senator Sam Steger said quote, his total agenda is vengeance. Wow. But there's obviously no way he's done if that's the case. And he opened an office in Glendale and called himself the governor in exile. Oh boy. Evan served as an at-large delegate

to the 1988 Republican National Convention. Of course he did, because he's taken over, they've taken over the money. They need him, right, yeah. He ran for governor again in 1990 and got 24% of the vote in the Republican primary. And he joined the Constitution Party National Convention and got no traction at their convention

around for president. So he ran as an independent against John McCain in the Senate and got about 10% of the vote. Voters finally approved an MLK day in 1992 after not approving it in another election. Until then the boycott continued to cost the state hundreds of millions. In 1995, Evan became a chairman

of the Constitutional Networking Center, a group that wanted to run candidates who supported a strict interpretation of the Constitution. Not his. Yeah, right. He kept trying to start his own newspaper, but could never get investors. Oh my God.

Oh, the getter times. In 1999, Evan published a book, Wrongful Impeachment. Oh, good Lord. A fiction. In 2004, it was reported to Ada Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and was put in the Arizona Veteran's home. He died on February 21st, 2008. Oh, is there more?

Ed Buck switched to the Democratic Party in 1988. He moved to West Hollywood in 1991 and he served on the Stonewall Democratic Club and donated tons of money to Democrats. Over $500,000. Hillary Clinton, Ted Liu, Adam Schiff. In 2007, he ran for city council and lost. In 2017, a young man named Jemma Moore

died in Ed's apartment. He was a sex worker. There were drugs. The district attorney declined to charge him though, and everyone said he'll do it again. In 2019, another man, Timothy Dean, died at Ed's home. 50 civil rights organizations called on law enforcement to do something about the guy who kept ending up

with dead black sex workers in his home. He was arrested nine months later after another man overdosed in his apartment, but this time survived. Fuck. He had injected others with meth who had survived. Oh my God. On July 27th, 2021, Ed Buck was convicted

of nine charges including two deaths. Activists say he was not charged for years because of his wealth, his political ties, and his race. You're, you don't let us have heroes. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Shit. Oh my God. I, I, I, ah, fuck.

I mean, it is, it is, is there a more appropriate feeling at the end of something like this than this where you're just like, it is just so, you know, and I mean, we've talked about it ad nauseam, but how, how do you root for politicians anymore? Ooh. I mean, after all that, like obviously that is crazy

and such a foundational story of, you know, it just, it is what keeps happening, which is that the edge moves further and further. The line is further and further. And so it feels normal because we're not moving that far away from it because in many ways it is kind of erosion versus acceleration, but it is like, we're at the point now

where it's like, there's just nothing. There's no good. There's not a, it's not like you're, I'm not pinning my hopes on anything. There's nobody, there's no person, there's no sect. There's times where there feels like there's glimmers, but it's so easy to extinguish and the powers that be are so in fucking control

that it would be amazing if our biggest problem right now was religion in our government. When it is the religion of the government is money and corruption. So where do you go? What do you? I mean, we have to, I mean, the more the mansion and cinema stuff occurs, I'm just like,

well, we have to shut everything down. Yeah, at what point are you done? As the people we have to go, we're not gonna tolerate this. And the other way to tolerate it is to bring the businesses to a screeching fucking halt and go, you're not gonna make money unless the system is fixed. And part of the system is like, take care of people, give them Medicare for all,

pass them for a fucking sort of new green deal so we can actually survive. Like you just have to grind it all to all. We have the power, we just have to do it. They're not gonna do anything. Well, even watching the mansion stuff play out because it is, again, I mean, it's not like to say that, I mean, there are corrupt politicians up and down

in both fucking parties, but the right out in front of daylight corruption that is going on with mansion and cinema, I don't know how people are able to go, you know, the party that houses those two should also be viewed as problematic. So here's the problem, the people who, right, the people who Meacham kicked out of the party,

right, the other Republicans. Who wouldn't fall in line. Who wouldn't fall in line. Well, they went to the Democratic Party. All of these people who are, and then these Meacham type people, well, they're Reagan Republicans, right? Well, now there's a bunch of Reagan Republicans

who aren't on board with Trump stuff. Yeah, right. And they're going to the Democratic Party. No, I know. The Democratic Party is swelling with right-wing assholes and they take more and more control. The less power the left has, and the left is the only answer to what is happening,

which is we need less private business. We need to take care of people. We need to fix the climate. No one else wants to do that. The centrists want to do it slowly, which isn't possible. Right. So the more crazy the Republicans get,

the more they slice off people who then come, David Frum, right? A great example. He's a fucking right-wing piece of shit. Well, now he's a Democrat. Well, yeah. Like, they're all doing that. And this doesn't reverse.

Like, as you can see, this took root. And then this kind of person, they took over the whole Republican Party. And they've just increased in numbers. It doesn't go backwards. I think that is the thing, is that I think this all the time. Like, the idea that someone who worked in George,

I don't even say and watch like cable news, but it's like, if you do like MSNBC, which is considered like the liberal one, the left one or whatever, there's someone on there who worked in George W. Bush's White House and has on people like Bill Crystal. And they talk about how bad they're,

it's like, at some point you have to recognize that they're not the ones changing, you are. You're moving your moral compass for them because they hate the same person you hate. But my question would be, since we're at a point now where nothing is promised or nothing is really given, and the only thing that you live and vote for

is to have things not taken away from you. So nobody really, like even Biden promised stuff, but doesn't deliver on it, but it almost seems irrelevant because it's just if you hate Trump, you're good. And if you like Trump, you're bad. Well, that's like the blue no matter who thing isn't a political ideology.

It's the opposition to fascism, but it's not answers. The answers to fascism aren't blue no matter who. The answers are a better politician. Yeah. Fuck anyone who's allowed. Blue no matter who, and you end up with cinema and mansions and then you get nothing done and then the bad people take over anyway.

Look, the real problem is, is I see people, so I'm like, we gotta get rid of cinema and mansion. Yeah, we did this. We did this Joe Lieberman, we've done this. They do. The problem is, is that particularly cinema is creating a new model for politicians, which hasn't been seen yet.

Politicians have always been like, I'm gonna say one thing and do another, but at the end of the day, they still wanna get elected. And so they do care about the people, right? They care, they go, okay, I'll bend on this issue. Because I'm gonna be re-elected. There's so much. Well, she's a new model and she's the model

of the NCAA men's basketball programs, which is one and done. One and done is for years, for years, college basketball players would play for four years and then they'd go to the NBA. And then they started realizing, well, I can show how good I am in one year and get drafted in the top 10 and I'll make tons of money.

And some coaches went for it, like Kentucky. Kentucky's a program that started setting up one and done. One and done is they get in, they play one year, they make money. Kristen Sinema is one and done. She's a new model. So there's no, yeah, exactly. She's a new model in that she's transparent about it.

And she's done. And she doesn't care. And there's nothing you can do because anyone who's saying vote her out. And so she's leaving. She's making a model for come out, lie, lie, lie, lie and get voted in on more left policies. And then go, go fuck yourself.

I'm gonna make a bunch of money from a hedge fund. The system is officially being obliterated and one of the people most obliterating it is Kristen Sinema. In the Democrats. Yeah, I mean, she's said. No, I mean, this is happening in the party that you think is the alternative to the terrible shit.

Well, you can now the most popular things are gonna be leftist things because most people want Medicare for all. Most people want the climate change. Most people want everything. So you run on them and then you go, which they've always done. They've always run on stuff.

And Obama's a great example. He ran to the left and governed from the center. Well, now they're just gonna run from the left and then go fuck you. I got six years, suck my ass. And I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna work for a fucking hedge fund and you can go fuck yourself.

That's what they are. That's what this model is. It's the worst thing that's ever happened. The corruption is on the level now where it almost feels like it is. Didn't care. Well, it's also like you send people in to fix it. It's like when someone keeps leaving the room

in a horror film to go check on the others and they don't come back. So eventually you're just in a room alone. Like, I guess I gotta go. It is just, again, I think that what you're saying is right because it is like we're not voting or tweeting or calling and leaving voicemails. We're not gonna be able to do that and get out of this.

They're not listening. They don't give a fuck. They're owned. They're not owned by you. They don't give a fuck about you. Nobody, you know, they operate. I mean, and again, you have to also, I think to some extent recognize that a lot of this

is theatrics that is put on for the sake of the real owners which are corporations, which have taken over the fucking government. And so people, you know, it is helpful if you don't wanna get shit done because you're owned. People like cinema and mansion are fantastic. Yeah. Because they are self-villainizing.

And I think mansion actually cares about getting reelected and things he can win. I don't think she cares. But he also, even if he doesn't, his worst case scenario is that he set his kids up with tons of shit. He's rich as fuck. Doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. I mean, if he loses, he loses. I mean, it's okay. He's already rich. He's way rich. He's rich as fuck. He's gonna be defended. She's gonna be the higher private security.

You know, whatever it is. And look, the stuff that's in the bill that he's saying stop the climate change stuff, that's the end line. Yes, it's over. What's in the bill? If this doesn't pass, that's it. It's over.

And so if it doesn't pass, we need to come up with an alternate solution. We need to shut everything down. Like, there's no other choice now. You don't get to fuck around and go, oh, they're gonna fix this someday. That's it. You're out of, all the fucking,

all the, this sent you some shit. All the let's do it slowly. It's fucking over. It's done. That's it. Enough with your fucking bullshit. This is it. This is the line in the sand.

If they don't pass it, we the people have to fucking stop it. And not only stop it. Do what nobody has ever really done, which is totally transform it because the roots are always there. It's the second you make a big change. They're, they're just working so hard to take it back.

Yeah. So it is this. I mean, it is right now almost like it's the end of the movie. It's the three, two, one clock. And we're dribbling the ball with zero. I can guarantee you, there's tons of people going to bed right now going,

do I, should I do something really bad? Yeah. Is my, is the future of my kid, do I actually have to do something really bad and illegal now? There's a lot of people going to bed thinking that. And, and again, it's like, we've had people in our country go through that.

A couple, you know, general, I mean, you know, for the generator, like for my generation, who really was never thought that there was anything terrible going on until like, you know, the last 10 years or so, it was pretty charmed. And then it's like,

at some point it does fall on your fucking back where you need to make sacrifices. Yeah, and look, these people. It's so hard because, you know, there's just people, how do you not think day to day about your existence? They've gotten people to the point where you're so low on wiggle room

that fucking skipping out on work. You know what I mean? Like it, it's very, very precarious. Yeah. Oh yeah. Super precarious. That's what they love. Okay. Anywho. Boy, I'm standing up.

I'm ready to fucking punch you. I don't know. I'm going to kill Aaron. Come on, your side. I don't care. Nobody's on my side. Oh boy, here we go. Nobody's got my back. Here he goes.

Well, thanks everybody. This has been fun. And gosh, just, yeah. Woo. Want to go to the bar? Yeah. Well, eat a guy. Eat a guy.