The Doug Stanhope Podcast - DSP Ep. 488: "Movie Reviews - GGW vs. NMWG"

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

Doug reviews 2 documentaries he has a personal connection with, “Girls Gone Wild Exposed” and "Nowhere Man And A Whiskey Girl". Doug didn't actually see the latter so he used Bingo, Tracey and Chaille for the actual review. If you are having issues playing the main link try our SOUNDCLOUD LINK  - https://soundcloud.com/user-247620879/ep488-movie-review-ggw-vs-nmwg-ad-free/s-MMXTC6jJSbs?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing  Recorded April 25th, 2022 at the FunHouse in Bisbee, AZ with Doug Stanhope (@dougstanhope), Bingo (@bingobingaman), Tracey (@egglester), and Ggreg Chaille (@gregchaille). Produced and Edited by Chaille. Arizona International Film Festival - http://filmfestivalarizona.com/film-detail.php?id=1039  "Nowhere Man And A Whiskey Girl"  - Directed by Chris Charles Scott - https://www.shoplifterstudios.com/projects/nowhere-man-and-a-whiskey-girl  Doug's new book, "No Encore For The Donkey" available exclusively at Audible.com - https://amzn.to/31uwvO0 We have no idea what the future holds so get on the Mailing List at https://www.dougstanhope.com/. When we know, we'll let you know. LINKS - The World Record Podcast - The World Record Podcast is the third and final award winning podcast created and hosted by Brendon Walsh setting the World Record for the funniest podcast in existence. - https://allthingscomedy.com/podcast/world-record-podcast Stageman Underwear - Stageman Underwear is ergonomically enhanced first layer gear for men. It's innovative design gently lifts the male genitals up and away from the legs for maximum performance and comfort. Go to www.Stageman.com and use Promo Code 'STANHOPE' to save 10% on your order. Stay in the loop with the ISSUES WITH ANDY podcast featuring Andy Andrist, Brett Erickson, Chad Shank and Chaille. New episode every Friday - https://www.patreon.com/issueswithandy Need more Chaille? Check out Mix Tape Time Machine Podcast with John Norris, Matt Collins and Ggreg Chaille - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mix-tape-time-machine-podcast/id1554596023 It's FREE to join Chad on his Twitch Channel. Go the Chad's Twitter page where he has pinned a tweet with instructions - https://twitter.com/hdfatty Visit the Stanhope Store - http://www.dougstanhope.com/store/ Closing song, “The Stanhope Rag”, written and performed by Scotty Conant for Doug Stanhope and used with permission – Available on Soundcloud - https://soundcloud.com/scottyconantSupport the show: http://www.Patreon.com/stanhopepodcast

you're listening to the doug stanhope podcast hello today on the podcast we're going to be uh learning about the whiskey girl nowhere man documentary no whiskey girl yeah whatever everyone cringed when you said that. What, I said that in the documentary? Yes. Okay, the Chaley's, Bingo's here, and Tracy and Chaley, they all went up to Tucson to see the premiere

of Nowhere Man and a Whiskey Girl. I did not go. I, however, just watched most of the TNT. I can't even remember the name of the fucking documentary about Joe Francis, which the most disgusting human being I've ever fucking met in show business in my life. And I've met really. Well, you worked for him.

He hired you. Yeah. I hosted a fucking girls gone wild and uh for funny not knowing what a bag of shit that man is like what still to this day and i didn't have to wait to see this documentary they asked me two different people have asked me now to uh be part of docu series that they're doing about pieces of shit or whatever. And the first one I was going to do, it was the producer. I don't even know if this is one of those.

I know it's not the second one because that was just a month ago. Vice is doing something called Sex Before the Internet. And one of the episodes is about Joe Francis. And I heard you have a lot to say about that guy yeah i fucking do but the first lady was she did the documentary uh uh don't fuck with cats uh which is great and another one i'm like oh shit i didn't you're legit and i was i i did like pre-interviews and then fuck it, that guy is so long gone off the fucking scene. Why would I either help reanimate his name

and or risk a fucking lawsuit because he's hugely litigious or look like I'm trying to attach my name to that guy again like i just did fucking girls gone wild as a complete goof the same way i did jerry springer or a thousand other things that were so yeah now i'm watching this one going well now people are finally coming out. Yeah, he's a fucking rapist. Yeah, no one was like the whole Me Too movement. I'm just waiting for his name. But here's what fucked us is we just watched what we have of that documentary. But fuck basketball. It ran on TNT and TNT is also airing the basketball playoffs.

So when the playoff game ran late, I had it recorded. So I lost the last 23 minutes of the fucking thing. And it's just when it's getting really good. So I do on DirecTV. Hey, other showings. There TV hey other showings there are no other showings of that how can that be possible I know this is a

series like of Rich and Shameless that's the name Rich and Shameless next they're going to do the other most punchable face is Shrikelli or however you say his name. Pharma Bro.

Yeah, they're definitely both bros cut from the same cloth. Biggest pieces of shit. But I knew Joe Francis. All his fucking stories. Because I've, like, immediately

as soon as he wasn't like on stern and i talked shit as soon as i could about him i've talked shit about him in books they and i couldn't say rapist now some girl has come out and said yeah no he totally straight up fucking raped me filed a police report they didn't do shit. I always, because he's litigious, I would dance around the verbiage. Yeah, I'm fairly certain that I was one thin tour bus door between someone pressing charges. That was one of the most depressed. I remember you called me one night. You were in Mexico in some

fucking suite and everyone was downstairs partying and everything. You were just like huddled in the corner. I had to leave Costa Rica when all the Alaskans were there because I had signed the contract to do some Super Bowl back before. It was pay-per-view do some Super Bowl back before.

It was pay-per-view, like the Super Bowl halftime thing. So it's just cockamamie and stupid. And by now, I know he's a piece of shit, but I'd already contractually agreed. And my manager at the time, she got a hold of me in Costa Rica going, he'll sue you if you don't show up. And I had to get this. I had to fly from Costa Rica going, he'll sue you if you don't show up. And I had to get this. I had to fly from Costa Rica to Mexico. So I had to fly to Houston, go through U.S. Customs to get my connection to Mexico, to go through Mexican fucking customs, to go to Mexico City to get my changing flight to wherever that is a

Puerto Vallarta or something like that where then they pick you up and then it's like an hour south of there. Girls Gone Wild Island he called it. It's not an island it's fucking Mexico. And then I just got excessively drunk.

Like I remember them filming me crawling to my room on all fours at the end of one of the day's shoots. They had it set up like some kind of, like, what's that? The TV show, American Gladiator. It was like that. Yeah, it wasn't like going to bars and saying, hey, pull up your shirt. These girls were all flown in. And so they're doing this thing. We just have to host it.

My God, I didn't see my face once in that fucking thing, which I'm glad because the other co-host that was like he had done, I guess, other Girls Gone Wild videos. He had done, I guess, other Girls Gone Wild videos. I'm not even going to say his name because later on when he came up in the news a few years ago, I contacted him. He's like, I have a family now. I have kids. I am so trying to stay away from that whole part of my life. And he's all over the thing. They only say his his name once but his face is in it a lot but like when it just sprung up in the news someone tweeted me oh you're gonna be really happy i know you've been waiting for this for a long time

when this was coming out in the build-up a few uh publications the guardian for one put out how this girl is accusing him of rape and they never did anything and i'm like fuck maybe i should have done that documentary the good one i didn't want to yeah i definitely have your back but i i don't want to be a guy coming out saying, yeah, he's very fucking rapey in my eyes, but since no one else has come out, a dude me-tooing a dude all by himself.

Yeah, there was one, I remember there was one night after Mexico, that's when I had to do it. That was the second second one but the one i did knowingly gleefully because it was stupid like fucking maury povich to me there's one night like it's like an after party in his suite and he comes out of the bathroom with some girl and goes directly to the door and then fucking slams the door and locks it.

And he goes, yeah, I just, cause she seemed to be crying on that brief walk and he slammed the door and he starts bragging to everyone how he just fucked her and then threw her out. I know this sounds like a coot story. That took a while to find that picture, by the way yeah they're showing a lot of pictures from

girls gone wild island in the documentary but uh that was uh 2000 right fucking juggy kathy was on it they brought her down they have all these teams the red team and the blue team and the whatever and for the rehearsal there's one of the most terrifying moments of my life. If I wasn't shit-faced, is I was waiting for one of the girls that was at his place or wherever we wound up, and his driver was waiting for us, waiting for her because she's taking forever to get ready.

And fucking Joeis is screaming at him like where the fuck and he would just he was just this rampant fucking psychopath when he got angry just fire people everywhere and we got into the suburban like publicly he wouldn't wait till they got back home he would make sure to fire people like in front of everybody like he had the same security guy. I'm like, I thought you got fired in Texas. He goes,

yeah, he fires me all the time, but he makes a public spectacle of fucking wagging his dick. And you know who I am. It's really fucking sickening. Here's the guy. Yeah. Yeah.

That poor bastard. He's generally showing me pictures of the co-host on that thing, and he's like, I want nothing to do with that. I don't want my fucking kids to ever know I had something to do with that. Who approached you to ask you to do this in the beginning? Because I was with you, and I couldn't remember if it was that guy or someone else. We were in L.A., maybe. No, you weren't.

Oh, wait, yeah, you were in Costa Rica when I had to do it. No, but I remember someone asking you, and I thought it was in L.A., but I could be wrong about that. He was kind of a short guy. Yeah, no, that's the guy that got me to do the original one. That's Pauly. That was Pauly. Yeah, that's the guy that got me to do the original one. That's Pauly. That was Pauly. Yeah, right.

Yeah, he got me to do the original one. Hey, it's all in a fucking book somewhere. Fair enough. But yeah, it was a, hey, we want you to host this thing. And Girls Gone Wild was ubiquitous back then. You couldn't get away from it. Snoop Dogg had just done his one. And,

uh, yeah, I just got done the man show. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that as a goof. Uh, that might've been it.

Yeah. It was on the man show. So they made that connection. Yeah. Is it, is it raunchy comic? He'll do it. He won't say no.

I had no idea because he's off the radar and no one's heard fucking Girls Gone Wild in a dozen years at least. I didn't know. He's faced so many charges. I just remembered this while we were watching

that. One of the times he got tax evasion and fucking filming underage girls, child pornography, if you will. One of the times that it came up, it was after my commercial had run for my hosting Girls Go Wild so many times. And I was sicked by myself. I wanted to fucking blow my head off. It seemed funny at the time. I didn't realize the residual effects of, oh, now it's on TV after the money's long since spent. Now, you're the most annoying guy to a lot of 15-year-old boys who are trying to beat off to a fucking commercial. And then I'm just screaming, show me where babies feed or dumb drunken shit while they're trying to beat off to a fucking commercial and then i'm just screaming show me where babies feed

or dumb drunken shit while they're trying to beat off yes i would hate me too uh but uh what was my point oh yeah one of the times he had gotten arrested for something i was at a bar and fox news they have the crawler at the bottom saying, or the cry on, not the crawler, where it says. The burned in image. Yeah. Founder of Girls Gone Wild has been arrested. But the picture is of me on the cover of Girls Gone Wild video. And I'm like, that's going to be actionable.

People don't know what the owner looks like you're showing a picture of fucking me uh but yeah just the most grotesque so so we get in the suburban we're running late to get to this rehearsal for the fucking Super Bowl halftime nonsense. And I don't care. The girl's late and the guy drives and I was taking copious notes, but they were drunken notes.

But I forget the kilometers per hour that I was seeing from the backseat on his, because it was, but it was like 150 km per hour. Most, I've never been that, or I should have been that frightened. At that point, I was just fine to die. I had, you know, when you drink enough amount of alcohol, you're like, hey, I might die in this, but I'm fine.

And I had seen a cop car pickup truck on the way in. Coming from the airport, they had pickup trucks that had like the rally bar, I guess you would call it, on the top with spotlights on the bar. So we're going. I think we're going to die. I'm fine with it. These are like two lane roads, like Costa Rica roads, where he's doing whatever that was, like 100 miles an hour. In what would have been a 25 to 30 mile an hour road. It's fucking insane and at some point i see headlights coming towards

us and then the rally light spotlights come on when they see how fast we're doing i'm like oh these are cops i'm gonna be fine and he flashes his high beams back at them and speeds up and they just keep going and i asked him about it he goes yeah when you have a car this expensive she had a fucking yeah a suburban in fucking rural mexico going on 10 miles an hour they just assume that you're more important or that you're a fed where they're local and they just don't want to fuck it. Nope. Yeah. Wow.

And so we get there, they have, well, let's say 60 girls, 40 girls all like dressed up in their uniforms that they're going to have to wear for this stupid American gladiator titty games. And, uh,

he's just fucking trying to control the room and you know you know grandstanding he's just this biggest fucking egomaniac and when it seems to be wrapping up some girl says well oh good because now we can go out i'm gonna change into my real clothes i'm not wearing this out to party and he's like fuck you like screaming in a way i can't even scream because i live in a neighborhood where it would call the police at a level fuck you you fucking wear the fucking uniform fuck this girl you're fucking fired how about that even better you're fucking fired you fucking piece of shit you're fucking fired you know what send her home right now send her fucking no i want her fucking out of shit. You're fucking fired. You know what? Send her home right now. Send her fucking,

no, I want her fucking out of here right now. Like that, like continuing. No, no, don't even get her to the fucking airport. You put her on a bus.

You're going to take a fucking bus back to Wisconsin. You fucking. And I'm like, we're all standing there. Just, is someone going to fucking do anything about this? Is that how you learn to talk to women? It was so fucking grotesque that I couldn't wait forever.

Anytime his name came up for the next fucking 10 years, and then it stopped coming up. No, the worst person to this day. I've met fucking seedy pornographers. I hosted the AVNs. And yeah, there's fucking disgusting people in porn. Nothing compared to that guy. The worst.

The worst. I compare him to the fucking scene in Leaving Las Vegas where the frat guys rape Elizabeth's shoe in the hotel shower. Or no, no, it's in a hotel room. It's where she's bleeding out of the anus afterwards in her own shower. Yeah, I see that scene. I think Joe Francis. her own shower yeah i see that scene i think joe francis jesus so now he's uh evidently living in mexico i didn't see the end of the documentary thank you fucking nba most hideously boring sport ever uh but yeah he's he's racked up so many warrants here.

Failure to appears. Fucking so many charges that he's stuck down on Girls Gone Wild Island in Mexico, where he just got arrested for he did like 73 days in a Mexican jail for beating his wife and mother of his children. And she fled of his children. And she fled with the children. So, yeah, he can't come back to the States. And he's a piece of shit. But now that all these people are making fucking specials about him, I'm on board. I'm just not. My testimony in court is not going to hold up so well because most of it is, it was something like this because I was drunk, but I know he's a piece of shit.

Like that famous quote from the judge in the Lenny Bruce trial, I believe. Define obscenity. Well, I don't know what it is, but I know it when I see it. Yeah. Yeah. I know that guy's a piece of shit. He showed up. We had that place in Playa del

Rey right before we moved to Bisbee right on the beach. And we were having a party, which for us meant seven people over. Oh, I want to come. I want to come. This is when he's hanging out with fucking Paris Hilton and the Kardashians

and shit like my party might be better and he showed up with a bodyguard what came up seven other people

there yeah yeah it's just an unlit fucking patio where we're out smoking yeah

drinking beers drinking Miller Lights and his fucking bodyguard comes in first to like scope out danger. Yeah, he didn't last very long. We're all trying to figure out what to say to him and vice versa.

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I'm me. I'm Hellman. And now, a documentary about good people that I didn't watch. A documentary about good people that I didn't watch. It had to be almost two years. Was it two years? 2020, yeah. 2020, yeah.

That they came down and filmed that. Summer. We had just got the funhouse painted. Right. Because the TVs weren't even up yet. We had a barbecue. It was nice enough weather. Yeah, because they had the big screen out there to show his... The director of Nowhere Man and a Whiskey Girl.

Chris Charles Scott. Yeah, he had just released... His previous work was Class Action park about some really fucked up. It was a great documentary about a really fucked up janky seventies, eighties amusement park in New Jersey, I believe. Yeah. And so he showed that.

And yeah, then there were some, then there were some hiccups along the way, but the things out and it premier's out, and it premiered. I think it premiered, but I also got links to a website about the documentary. I think their website, where it showed it, had won awards. And I'm like, how's it won awards if this is the premiere of it? Premiered up in Tucson.

It premiered at the Arizona International Film Festival. It was their first showing. That was the first day of the festival. Public showing. Yeah. They may have entered it somewhere else. I have no idea. This is definitely a film that would enter into any festival that was happening.

This is right up that alley of something to watch in a coffee shop. Art house. Or like where we were was outdoors. Thank God the wind stopped. Oh, Jesus. That was a surprise. That was a surprise, yeah. Especially for Tracy with no coat. Yeah, you may or may not have told me some of these details, because by the time you got back, it was after midnight,

and I had started drinking at 1130 in the morning. But I stayed up for you. You did. Well, I was talking with someone else who we couldn't be there and we're like yeah i'm just waiting to see how it went like the bullshit from the beginning i want you to be the executive producer of this i'm like well her sister should be the fucking one you go through i knew them peripherally uh comparatively to the people that you need in this documentary i'll help you you know find these people i'll connect you but i don't have but a you know

couple of stories i wasn't you know hanging out like bingo was and part of their daily lives they called me lord because I was their landlord. Slumlord. Yeah. So I'd occasionally see them if they stopped up or if I stopped down to see Bingo rehearsing with them. I'm like, I'm not. No, we need you.

You're the guy we need as the executive producer. And I go, and as it went on, I go, I don't think I was ever really going to be executive producer. Did you look at the credits? Yeah, you're right on that. As a, probably not as executive producer.

They always set you off separately. It's blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And Doug Sandhoff. It's like when there's a,

a old famous library on the love boaters. Yeah. And. Featuring Phyllis Diller. Cameo by. Jane Fonda. But when your name was up, it was on the screen by itself, usually. And I mean, you were in it quite a bit.

I mean, I didn't know that you were in it that much. There was a lot of issues with, hey, who's going to sign releases on this? Because there was scuttlebutt, let's say. There were people that were told to, all right, but I want you to say this. You can't script a documentary. This is after we are all long done. They filmed down here, and then they went other places. And I'm like, wait, he had you say lines?

I'm like, wait, he had you say lines? Fortunately, by the time I heard about a rough cut, they went, you know, it's actually really good. So we signed releases at the last minute. But I was holding out until I get fucking approval from who I consider the boss. And so tell us about it. Bingo why don't you i mean i'm gonna start well first of all we didn't even know if we were gonna be in it because their website says featuring all these people and i'm like you can't really do this i mean they did doug you mentioned how like you like peripherally you were associated with them. You weren't always at their gigs and stuff like that.

There were people in the movie that were at all of their gigs. People like Floyd and Bridget and Jimmy G and Mega, Sarah Mega. These are people that were in their day-to-day lives. So there's a lot of that. And you gave context to it. And you can spin words pretty good so i i understand the value in that but i mean you were and you were very honest about it you were their their landlord and and you were jealous of the fact that they derived such joy out of being around each other and playing

music for the fuck of it and that i thought that was a that was really well represented in that, in that they really just were artists. And then the story that they wove around that, it's like they have to tell a story about a couple that's tragic. If anyone's listening to this that has no idea what we're talking about, you have to go back to the Cliffhanger podcast. 13 and 14, or 13 and 15 i think all right yeah it's way back there yeah but um yeah that came up in the movie too and that was kind of a bummer um they played part of the podcast and you know out of context it's gonna sound weird yeah you like one or two sentences of you saying something to Derek, it's going to sound fucking, uh,

crass or, uh, unsensitive. Yeah. Like, like shock value, but not if you listen to the whole thing and you, you,

and there's people that were in the movie that have refused to listen to that podcast. Cause Derek's on it. I was like, well, that's too bad because he was very open about a lot of that was going on. And he was also, there was part of it that, you know, he was very open about a lot of that was going on. And he was also, there was part of it that he was definitely not being honest about certain things and that came about.

But why the podcast or you get painted as somehow sensationalizing this is just ridiculous because this was before she had even died. Yeah. And you and Bingo and the people in Bisbee have a relationship with them that is personal. And you can't really bring that across in the movie as a director and an editor. You have to try and explain these people and their lives. And you're not going to get every little thing in a snapshot. This goes back to the whole Joe Rogan thing where we did the hours. Well, they took them out of context.

Well, it's hard to put a three-hour podcast, Rogan, into context without having to listen to the whole fucking thing. But I thought they did a really good job of putting their life on the screen and letting you see the highlights of them meeting,

their history before that, which I didn't know any of this shit. I mean, we live in the house that they lived in, and I played music with them a couple of times. But, I mean, it was very, you know, passing, ships passing. I rarely saw them. Yeah, you don't have to know someone. you know, passing ships passing. I rarely saw them. Yeah. You, you don't have to know someone when you age,

you go, Oh yeah. I know if you're a piece of shit in the first 30 seconds, or I know that you're the most beautiful human being in the world in the first 30 seconds. And they fell into the latter category. Definitely. You know,

they're great, but I'm not going down to jam with them. I have nothing to add to this whole thing. They would come up and they made every band, every drunken Saturday night before Super Bowl Sunday, hey, let's start playing live music. Okay, well, they'll come up and carry your drunken karaoke caterwauling

into a better dimension. You did, however, go down to them, maybe on mushrooms with a blanket tied around your neck like a cape, and go in without asking and, like, loom over them and wake them up. Hey, guys! Rinse due! Just so we could hang out with them. It was so fun. Yeah, no, I definitely fucked with them.

And they fucked with me a lot. Yeah, they did. I remember chasing them in a car because they threw those snap and pop things through my face. And I thought someone threw firecrackers and my fucking pets are going crazy and i ran out like the fucking old man hey kids get off my lawn who's fucking with my pets

throwing fireworks in my yard and i chased them and i got my car and chased that car around down by the corner store and they're like hey lord fucking assholes and the shit you used to throw at their house just to wake them up to beg them to come play with you oh every champagne

bottle that went off down here was aimed at their roof which was your roof if anything was going to get damaged it was going to get damaged,

it was going to be damage that you would have to take care of. But I mean, the story itself, you know, they go through everything, I thought, pretty concise. It was done kind of like a play-by-play because we were on tour and, you know, they got you for that story and and uh bingo's was pretty pretty powerful because she's she walked in and that was yeah i was disappointed in mine because everybody was disappointed in theirs no no in their own in their own yeah but why were you disappointed bingo no i just i had one of the

best stories about derrick and him using me like um a suicide note like i had a message for everybody to tell them that he wasn't fucked up he wasn't drunk he wasn't on drugs, he made a decision and how happy he was. He was talking to Amy on top of our house and just saying, I'm so happy. You're not in pain anymore. And he would tell me over and over again, how much they both loved me. I mean,

it's a wonder I didn't know what was going to happen, but I didn't, but it was such a beautiful thing. You know, I got cut down. to happen, but I didn't. But it was such a beautiful thing, you know? And it got cut down? I was... It got cut down. Yeah. Yeah, because what she just said, part of that was in.

I would have had to be drinking if I was there, and if I was drinking, I would have definitely said the wrong thing to someone. I was certain that was true, so I was glad you did not comment. A lot of people knew them in different ways and from different places or cared about them in different ways. There's still people in this town that think me or both Bingo and I are responsible for his death. I'm not going to fucking go up, be drunk around those people. I do remember that one thing

is someone when I came on screen someone yelled douchebag right to my right and behind me I swear I think it was the one of the guys because he's always trying to be funny that way so he said it loud enough

so we would hear it that's my suspicion it's not really the place for commentaries like that right well if bingo didn't snap yeah i was i was a little concerned with that because uh i didn't know what was gonna like how you were gonna deal with it because first of all you're watching yourself on screen in front of a bunch of strangers for the first time yeah and it's it's a highly charged topic i mean people are i mean i started fucking crying when the opening credits started because of course they did oh they did started

with tumbleweed the one that you listen to no tumbleweed is i cry more at the other one it was tumbleweed too i alone that's the one it was i alone the dancing one. Tumbleweed, too. I Alone. That's the one. It was I Alone. The dancing one. I Alone. Is it I Alone? No, I don't think so. What's it called? A lot of vodka with my soda root beer.

Bingo. Bingo. What's the other song? The one where they're dancing. No, I don't know what it's called. The Tumbleweed was one of them. Oh, I'm just thinking about the thing that I'm missing. The dancing one is. Yeah, the dancing one is yeah the dancing one

if only i that's the one yeah and i like the it's getting ready to start it's a little higgly piggly because they there was going to be a you know an announcement up front and then kelly and carlos sang a no word whiskey song and then Kelly and Carlos sang a No Word Whiskey song. And then I go, I got time to go get that burger. I'm going to go grab it over there. And then they're like, it's going to be 20 minutes. I go, fuck. Well, they're still singing.

I got time. So I go wait at the gate to get in because it's an outdoor thing. So I'm just kind of seeing what's going on. And they start the movie, and it starts right off with If Only I. Yeah. So I'm sitting there holding my ticket to get my fucking. Behind the gate, I see you. Yeah.

I'm getting a drink. I got my ticket to get my burger. And I'm like, fuck, man, why am I crying? It's just fucking started, man. Yeah, it's clear. But that was the other thing. All right, there's going to be people there that think that we had something to do with their death. People that think that they knew them better than us.

And people crying. I don't want to deal with any of this. And most of those people are probably people I've met and I don't remember, which is the worst. That's why I don't go out in town because I'm terrified of people like, hey Doug. I'm like, is that a, I know you and I forgot or you just know who I am

and are just saying, hey Doug, because you know that I'm Doug and I don't know how to react. It's a safe way. I go wicked early. Yeah. I thought you went for the deals. 50's a safe way. I go wicked early. Yeah. I thought you went for the deals. 50% off.

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you're listening to the Doug Stanhope Podcast. Who was in it that you go, what? I just, I think it's interesting because some of us knew them pretty fucking well. And they did make everyone feel like they're very best yeah so when headberg headberg was the same way where you go does headberg like me because i'm ridiculous or does he actually like me because he did have a gackle of like you know derrick and kenny's yeah who we do like but they are kind of ridiculous. But they would talk shit about everyone. And I love to gossip.

Yeah. And we would go down there occasionally and they would gossip about everyone. And then you leave and go, am I the next story? Shit, I don't want to leave. I'm just going to stay here. Just to make sure it's not me who was the guy in the in the beginning he was uh out on um in ob out in front of uh like roca or something older guy musician he was playing a harmonica right when it started i thought

i may have seen that differently but i that guy, they were actually filming that in Wilcox. So it wasn't Bisbee. Are you sure it was Bisbee? I thought it was. I thought it was in front of Roca, but I'm not 100% positive. Yeah, because across the street was where Claire has her shop. Okay, then that wasn't her. I don't know who it was.

Yeah, I don't know who he was, but that's one person i'm like i thought i kind of knew a pretty good like just a cursory understanding of the of the musicians in town and who they ran with but i didn't recognize that guy man amy when she played her solo wednesdays which was sometimes at the queen sometimes at the royal um man you could see it she would people would walk in and the whole night she was playing that one song for that one audience member the whole night she's constantly going every time you walk in the eyes yeah every time you walked in she played that taylor swift mean mean play for us yeah but she did that for every single person that she got to know. It was cool.

Yeah, I'm still glad I didn't go. Yeah, me too. I was really happy. You did. I would love to have a Bisbee showing of it here. They want to do it and they want you to go. They already talked to me about it. Well, I'd love to do two.

We'll do the Bisbee showing at the Royale or wherever that I won't go to. They haven't picked it yet, but the director and I talked a little bit about doing something in the warmer months. So June or July, maybe. But also doing one here. And then, yeah, let's do a second one here. Invite only. Yes. He sounded like he was down for that.

Cool. Where people don't think that i uh murdered yeah murdered i'm just fuck i'm with you on that they think i did too yeah no that's a that's a bit i was working on at some point i like, it's like that whole bit. I was adding that onto a different bit. But like, if you think that I could have someone killed, and you honestly believe that, and I've convinced other people that it's local conspiracy theory, let that rumor fly. That's way better than having a pit bull for security.

If people think that I could just have you randomly killed and the cops are going to turn a blind eye. Let's use this to our advantage. Exactly. You know, Derek, while Amy was still alive in the hospital in Tucson. He got this mask and it was some famous horror movie mask. Like scream. No, no, no, no,

no, no. It was like, uh, Freddy Krueger. Oh, it's Jason. Oh,

Jason. Yeah. So he had that. He brought it up and started scaring the nurses. And then he gave that to me. I have that mask still. When he came down. eBay yard sale.

No way, Jose. I just wish like we had about the most beautiful day together, me and Derek. And I wish that would have... Like, if people knew how happy he was. And how he kept repeating to me, are you sure Stanup's going to do this?

Are you sure he's going to put... Is it okay? I'm like, yes, he'll take care of it for me. Oh, did that come up? The me writing the Facebook thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Derek's mom was not thrilled with it on the camera. I also wanted to see if we could get our table back, but I didn't ask.

I did not ask that. I think part of, like, the backstory with her is that Derek refused to tell anyone that she had died. refused to tell anyone that she had died. So there, I think there's a lot of hurt like associated with that because they found out basically when they found out their son, her son killed himself. Derek went a little bit. Oh yeah.

No, no. He was, he told me that after Amy was dead, he told his mom that she was getting better and they were coming home. He told her that. He didn't know what to do.

He didn't contact anybody except for you, Stanil, to help him out. I don't think that came up. I don't remember. Did it? You said you talked to him about um you know just get away get out of bisbee don't be around come with us both of them that was the whole yeah

that was it get on a plane and we'll fly you to the road and you don't need to be there if you're worried about having a deal with local people just get get the fuck out. Yeah. Do you know that he made me the tater tots? I was like celebrating Amy. So I'm like, hang on for the, for the listener. Go ahead. Yeah.

She died of a blood infection at 39. And he came home that day and killed himself if you don't want to go listen to fucking two episodes of a podcast so the day he came home he had was you know forthright with bingo in that she's dead but i'm not telling anyone or you didn't know that at the time no i did he did tell me that oh he did tell me so he made tater tots but not he it was an enormous bag of tater tots and he was gonna kill himself he knew it so he made me the entire bag of tater tots so it could last a couple days if i needed it i don't know oh so you won't bug him again to make you more? Go downstairs. I need more. But he knew I was going to find him. He knew all that.

He had both. You know, it was okay. It was okay. But yeah, you spent a beautiful day together thinking that, all right, tomorrow we're going to deal with this or get the fuck out of here. I'm going to be fine. And then the next morning you wake up and he's blown his brains out in the house next door. Yeah.

Where the Chalice reside comfortably. I sleep like a baby. I did not bring my necklace because I don't know who knows about this, but I cut out the bullet hole that went through his head and through the wall. And I cut out where the bullet hole was. Through the drywall, yeah. And there was two pieces of drywall and then there was kind of this mesh thing in between the drywall. Cloth.

Yeah, this weird cloth thing. And I cut that out and I have that as a pendant and I wear it for special occasions. Yeah, you were wearing it in the movie. Yeah, I did wear it on the phone. Who were you looking for in the movie? Because I know Joby didn't make the cut. I don't know

if Chad Shank. Chad was not in it. No. Who else? That's what I'm saying. Were you looking for anyone that didn't show up? I really didn't have that kind of critical eye. I was really watching it and then yeah, just

trying to enjoy what he put together. I think what people will, I could be wrong, but I think people will be most surprised about the extent of her lupus, her illness. Yeah. And, like, she really did self-f fucking do the dialysis. I mean, she did it by herself in a van and not sterile. She did not go well. No, it wasn't a good idea. But when she was on the road, just so they could travel a little bit for music.

She was doing this in the fucking van out down by the river. She got an infection, too, because of that. So it was not. The doctor was like, what are you doing? The one that she died from? I don't think that was it. No, this was a wild one. Yeah.

And I went to dialysis with her. Yeah, I know. But she was just so fucking strong. It just didn't. It was not even a thing. Upbeat all the time. Yeah, the one thing the movie did show was how they kept it kind of under wraps, a lot of it, and then how much, like how severe it was.

Because other people were like, oh, yeah, but, you know, she has kind of bouts with it up and down kind of thing. And they were really shocked, you know, that it But, you know, she has kind of bouts with it up and down kind of thing. And they were really shocked, you know, that it had, you know, number one, that it had taken her life. And two, that it was as serious as it was. I mean, it probably made a lot of people understand that lupus can kill you. But everybody knows that she had the socks cut off like I'm wearing right now. She did that for her arm. Everybody knew that was her fashion thing.

That was only there to cover up. She had two ports, so they would stick the needles in these two ports. But what they would do is re-pick the scabs every time to put the needles in. So she covered that up with the stripy things. That's why I just stole that. That's interesting. But I have her old bands, socks. I mean, in the throes of this disease and then for years,

the dialysis and the medication. Three times a week, I think. It was uh the dialysis three times a week it was every other day three times a week for three hours that was the dialysis but in the midst of all that they were still doing gigs i know they were doing like three shows in two days sometimes it's fucking insane like in tucson and phoenix and then coming back to bisbee to do one. Yeah. And doing dialysis in between that. She was fucking crazy, that bitch.

She was nuts. The strongest person I have ever met. That would be Amy. Floyd is in it. He is. He's great. He's really good in it. And he was a in it. Yeah. He is. He's great. He's really good in it. And he was a super fan. Yeah, he was.

He was. I remember him being there before I knew them. Did you talk to people after the thing? I did a little bit. I was recognized a little bit. I don't know how they figured out who Bingo was. I don't know. Now they figured out who Bingo was.

I don't know. In fact, all the editors, three of the editors came up and they were so respectful and so kind and just wanted me to love it so bad. They were very cool people. One of them was the guy who, like, executive producer who actually got it made. Okay. Yeah. The guy who, like, executive producer who actually got it made. Okay. Yeah. So there was a point where the director himself just was burned out.

And it was just like, I can't keep doing this. This is pretty heavy. And then they got this other guy to come in and do it. And who really pushed it? He said 90% of it was done by him. So I don't even know his name, but he was there and of it was done by him so i don't even know his name but it's it's but he was there and bingo was talking to him they all said we every those three people were like we really feel like we know you and i'm like yeah i get it you've seen my face a lot

you i know you the interview you gave i stayed in the room for i'm like i needed you there christ You were nervous as fuck. Yeah, it was good. I never saw it. I mean, I told them all everything that I had dealt with and I broke down and I wasn't used to crying after they died. So,

I mean, it was a, it was a heavy fucking, that was the most heavy interview I've ever done. That was it. And I'm really happy you were there. Well, I'm looking forward to seeing this picture. In the comfort of your own home.

As well as the last 23 minutes of fucking Joe Francis. Jimmy G was in it. He had a lot of contacts to add to. I mean, he had a pretty close relationship with them, too. That was interesting. I don't really know that guy too much, so that was good to see his perspective. If I'm famous in this town, he was, for a minute, their Colonel Parker. Look it up.

Google it. I'll make the posters. He attached themselves to their wagon. Yeah, they were Bisbee famous, like I am. Yeah, they were. You're Sierra Vista famous, too, baby. Relax, you. But yeah, he said at first he didn't want to do it because he got too fat.

And then I guess he got talked into it after the fact because I didn't know he was in it. And then he showed up. Did you get to hang with Jimmy G? I did. He was like their de facto tour manager, poster guy. I would just like to add, Jimmy G thought he was too fat and he didn't want to get interviewed. I didn't want to go because I looked good and I'm fat now. I was like, I wish I was

a little bit fatter back then so you don't expect me to look good. I mean, I'm still wearing the top hat, but god damn, my hips. Shit. He shed some pounds, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Back and everything, yeah. I always liked him in a party. I love Jimmy. He was very funny, but no one I would trust as part of my career, and one-on-one, he could get really overbearing. Yeah, I used to be

a photographer. I'd shoot models. Here, look at this hot chick. This is an old fat guy showing you hot chicks on his phone is always somewhat disconcerting. But yeah, if there's a crowd of people, he's very funny. Again, one of the people I go, oh, maybe I should go see that and see Jimmy. No, because the other fucking riffraff. see Jimmy. No. Because the other fucking riffraff.

I can't imagine how I would have reacted if someone shouted douchebag. Yeah, I was very calm and collected. Yes. But if I was there. I don't think I didn't want to say something. But I was not going to.

That would have gone with Chad Shank. God, Chad Shank still has mail over here. We got to get him over here. I just assume that no one wants to leave their house anymore. If Chad Shank would have been with you, nobody would have said douchebag. They would have been like, yeah. You don't want something like that to spoil the movie. Right. Fucking some crazy. I think you should have not gone like, yeah. But again, you don't want something like that to spoil the movie. Right.

Fucking some crazy. I think you should have not gone like you did. I really do. I mean, in the best of ways. And we'll watch it here. Yes. Oh, my God. I was a little bit out of my mind today.

I went to the other street that I have a house on. Where the quiet house is. The quiet house. And I was totally medicated, but flipping out a little bit for no reason. And opened the gate. And there was this very large bird dead with blood around the head, just like I saw Derek. And I'm like, what are you trying to tell me? What's going on here? I'm trying to to take a message i don't know what's happening

and i just ran inside and got my um hot dogs and ran back out yeah that's but you were also a little bit paranoid that this is a message from someone who saw the movie. Yeah. That paranoia that can go the other way. Or a cat attacked a bird and it fucking fell. I don't have a cat over there. There's neighborhood cats all over. There's a dead bird with a lot of blood around its head.

Just like I saw Derek. Okay. I should drink more. I don't drink. I should drink more. Trace, can I? You're fine. Yeah, no, it's because I have bits now that I can only do on the road. I can't talk about on the podcast for reasons. And then there's things I go, oh, should I?

I can talk about this part on the podcast, but not on the road. Yeah, they're just bits none of it really affects us but some of it's pretty funny how you know fucking small town life that now i can't talk about that on the podcast yeah but i can talk about it on the road because local people aren't going to be on the fucking road but yeah it's it's small town conspiracies and then you have your own humor in the toilet after you don't you talk about the toilet or i can have you killed okay save it for the podcast save it for the podcast i think uh well there's meatwigs saying we're at time. Yeah. You got the Netflix is a Joke festival coming up? Yeah.

Check the dates on the website, DougStanup.com. And, of course, get on the mailing list. Don't fucking email me. How come I didn't know you were just in fucking South Bend? Well, you're not on the mailing list. I am on the mailing list. Well, did you do it when you moved from fucking reno to south bend so yeah you're getting the reno dates if you've not signed up on the mailing list recently sign

up again because we don't bother people in fucking south bend with reno dates i don't want to go to your junk folder let's send olivia's mail to this guy. I'm bringing Olivia's mail in person. Two, Netflix is a joke is the comedy festival. That's Saturday, April 30th, 2022. At the Avalon. Yep, at the Avalon. And then I go to Austin. I don't know any of the details about that.

Follow Joe Rogan for details about that because he doesn't keep me in the loop. He just invites. And then Radio Silence. Milwaukee was going to be the beginning of our fucking summer tour. But then we decided we had already booked Milwaukee. And I'm like, it's too late to start booking the rest of it. Let's move it to August. So I'm going to stay with the Milwaukee date at the Improv, May 15th.

And then August, we start having- Actually, I just posted August 29th, Buffalo, New York. And then it goes from there. But there'll be, I think it's going to start before that. Those are just the ones that are confirmed right now. Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, and Poughkeepsie. Yeah. And there may be a, like, all right, I'll talk to you off the air about this.

Maybe a couple after Poughkeepsie, because Poughkeepsie has no fucking real airport to fly out of. And I don't want to go into New York City in a fucking rental car or whatever. So maybe we add a couple New England dates. Just to get closer to a major market. An actual airport. Hartford, Burlington, Portland, Maine, something like that. I don't know.

But then I got to go to the UK and then we come back and then we start doing more shit southeast. So, yeah, get on the mailing list because we're coming in fucking strong. Bingo. Can you take us out of here? Well, I just want to say,

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