The Doug Stanhope Podcast - Ep. #267: The Men Are Talking Podcast
Episode Date: July 18, 2018Doug takes over the World Famous Comedy Store's podcast studio with Brian Hennigan, Brett Erickson, India Pearl and Ggreg Chaille. Shhh, The Men Are Talking.Recorded July 10th, 2018 at the World Famou...s Comedy Store in Hollywood, CA with Doug Stanhope (@DougStanhope), Brian Hennigan (@MrHennigan), Brett Erickson (@IBrettMyPants), India Pearl (@NantucketHseWif), and Ggreg Chaille (@gregchaille). Produced by Erickson, edited by Chaille. Get on the Mailing List at [www.dougstanhope.com](www.dougstanhope.com). This episode is sponsored bySTANHOPE MERCH - NEW! Chad Shank T-Shirts, “Popov Vodka Presents” VHS Tapes and the NEW KILLER TERMITES T-Shirt now available at [http://www.DougStanhope.com/store](http://www.DougStanhope.com/store)LINKS:COVERT Podcast - [https://audioboom.com/channel/covert](https://audioboom.com/channel/covert)Soccer Marmalade Podcast - [https://player.fm/series/soccer-marmaladethe-podcast](https://player.fm/series/soccer-marmaladethe-podcast)“Failure Is An Option: An Attempted Memoir” by H. Jon Benjamin - [https://amzn.to/2mpnCQg](https://amzn.to/2mpnCQg)Chad Shank Voice Over info at [http://www.AudioShank.com](http://www.AudioShank.com)Support the Innocence Project - [http://www.innocenceproject.org](http://www.innocenceproject.org)Support the show: http://www.Patreon.com/stanhopepodcast
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You're listening to the Doug Stanhope Podcast. I'm not going to a musical instrument oh are we doing the segment
with the Collins
are we recording
you can't tell me that we're recording
after the
I've already said too much
hey we're at the
world famous comedy store
you can come in and out
just because it looks professional
doesn't mean it is
yeah you guys can come in and out. Just because it looks professional doesn't mean it is. If no one's coming in, we can just leave that door open.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys can filter in.
Not having ambient noise is more disturbing.
This is the men are talking podcast because all of our gal pals are here.
You have a stand in with India Pearl.
But yeah, none of them want to talk on the podcast.
So let's make it our idea. Yeah. Pearl, but yeah, none of them want to talk on the podcast, so
let's make it our idea.
And as
we were mentioning earlier,
in respect to Sean Rouse,
he was, for both of us,
the first person... How do you get a fucking
cell phone reception?
We've made some improvements.
Morgan Murphy.
Nobody tell her that I just dismissed her call call because she doesn't listen to my podcast.
It's like a World Series of Poker player who doesn't watch the final result where he's like,
he bluffed me out with a fucking seven and a two.
Oh, shit.
I just realized they can see that.
Yeah.
Now they see it.
No, because the whole thing is them like they don't turn the cards over and they do it.
Then they could.
Oh man.
No wonder you guys watch that.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
In case we ever play Phil Hellmuth for the championship.
Anyway, go ahead.
Sean Rose.
How dare I?
No, it's totally anyway sean rouse yeah how dare i no it's all right uh sean rouse is the
first person that i'd ever heard use that phrase quiet men are talking and apparently same for you
and in the same place yes edinburgh 2006 honey honey shush men are talking. And then that, like I heard it all the time later on,
like Brendan Walsh with Bromance.
He's the first guy I heard use Bromance.
Really?
Yeah, 12 years ago.
I mean, everything has to start somewhere.
And Fat Upper Dick Area.
The FUDA, which is, you know,
there's a play on the, whatever the ladies version was. The Gunt. FUPA. Oh, FUDA, which is a play on whatever the ladies version was.
Gunt.
The Gunt.
FUPA.
Oh, FUPA.
Yeah, but it was Gunt first.
I'm always surprised more people.
The thing that you say that I thought would become more used is, please hold.
Oh, I stole that from-
An operator
No
Captain Rowdy's wife
Kimmy
Did you ever meet Kimmy
No I never did
She's an adorable one
She lived for Disney World
I think she's working there
Still for decades
And she would always do that
When someone called for Rowdy
Please hold
Oh yeah
So I absolutely stole that From him and she would always do that when someone called for Rowdy. Please hold. Oh, yeah.
So I absolutely stole that from him, from her, from an operator.
So we are at the... In the belly of the beast.
The world famous comedy store.
Yeah, Rogan's going to be here.
There's roast battle tonight,
which I don't know if I'm going to stay awake for.
Morgan Murphy's here. Yeah yeah she's obviously here yeah she's on the marquee yeah and so is rogan because
you're gonna i don't know what she's doing but he's doing roast battle and uh is he a judge on
that tonight wow i don't know you invited me to be a judge. I invited you and you refused. I said, I don't think I can stay awake.
Don't talk off mic, ladies.
If you fucking want to talk.
Joe's not listed as one of the judges.
It's the Sklar brothers and Sean White and some other people.
India Pearl, you want me to break the bad news to her today?
I mean, right now.
What?
Well, if I had better management, this is the Scotsman here. to her today? I mean, right now? What?
Well, if I had better management,
this Scotsman here, you know,
Brian Hennigan, have you met before?
Yeah, we've met a couple times.
Why don't you introduce the table?
Brian Hennigan was supposed to book my
openers for Wednesday, Thursday
here at the Comedy Store,
and he got
Brendan Walsh make sure
he was in town he's flying back from
Amsterdam and then I told him the
other one and he did not reach
out to you thankfully
because he confused
you I said well
can you get a hold of Olivia Grace
and he thought India Pearl and
Olivia Grace they kind of alliterate similarly.
Yes.
So yeah, you were going to be opening for me.
If I'd been a better manager,
you'd be opening for Doug tomorrow night.
Thankfully, I'm not.
Yeah.
I will never forgive you.
Well, you should change your name to Olivia Grace.
I know.
With a weird Sade spelling.
If there's mentioning
that we do have
Brett Erickson here
Erickson runs
this fucking joint
yeah
we're using
their equipment
so is this
a swap cast
I don't know
how it works
oh wow
because the
comedy store here
explain it Brett
well the comedy store
has a podcast studio
in their basement now
so we podcast all the time which like their public toilets anyone can use Explain it, Brett. Well, the Comedy Store has a podcast studio in their basement now.
So we podcast all the time. Which, like their public toilets, anyone can use.
Yeah, well, as long as you're homeless, yeah, you're invited in.
So, yeah, we record tons of podcasts here.
So it's not really a slot.
Does the Comedy Store still have their own podcast that we did through some fuzzy memory?
Rick Ingram and Eleanor Kerrigan.
Yeah, yeah.
It was all bare drywall.
It may have even been a door on sawhorses.
It was really very, they had just like broken the wall and brought equipment in.
The thing is that they said it was like Polly's unsold T-shirts and shit down there.
That was not me saying that.
That was a guy that works here.
Oh, really?
The important thing is that Brett Erickson is now the Mr. Big of the operation.
He's the king rat.
Yep.
He's the Greg Chaley of this joint.
Yeah.
Oh, it's much bigger than that.
Much bigger.
Slap swords, kids.
Slap swords, kids. Slap swords.
If I had one third of the knowledge Shaley has, I would be comfortable.
You'd have almost a third of knowledge.
But you seem to have the 100% of the beard that every other comic manager, everyone else I see.
Things have really started happening
for me since the beard came in.
Trivial
Hursuit.
I just read that word in a book
and I still don't know what it means.
But it's funny because it's familiar.
What word?
Hursuit.
It was in H. John Benjamin's book that I read
yesterday
I don't think I've ever heard
that one can you tell me what it means
no I just said hairy
hair suit hairy
a B minus on the SATs
and I still have no idea what that meant nope
H.I.R.S.U.T.E
having a lot of hair
like a wool sweater no like having a lot-T-E Having a lot of hair Like a wool sweater
No, like having a lot of hair
Like having a lot of hair
Having a lot of hair is hair shoot
Just show them your back
That way they can notice the word by the picture
Like a McDonald's
I want that
I want the number three
Hold on, Tracy, what does hair suit mean?
Hair suit means hairy Wow Doesn't hairy mean hairy? I want the number three. Anyway. Hold on. Tracy, what does hair suit mean?
Hair suit means hairy.
Wow.
Doesn't hairy mean hairy?
Wait, hair suitism is like a syndrome?
Yeah, but it didn't make the joke work any better.
Jesus, why are you belaboring this?
He had a joke where hair suit worked.
Oh.
Hairy wouldn't have worked.
Yeah.
Trivial hairy?
I don't think so.
I like it.
I don't want to start this.
I'd rather talk about you.
I got here.
I got to L.A.
Some problems. Hold on.
We dropped you off in Tucson, and then we drove to stay in Palm Springs and then all shipments
An hour out of Bisbee
it's about two hours to the airport
an hour out
I realize I don't have my phone
Did you say foam?
He didn't even do it right
I know
It's a Brendan Walsh old thing Hey I can't find my phone He didn't even do it right. I know.
It's a Brendan Walsh old thing.
Hey, I can't find my phone.
You seen my phone?
Did you say phone or foam?
Oh, you have to do the both?
Yeah.
And he would do that to the point anytime someone said, Hey, have you seen my phone?
You go, oh, fuck, that's in my head.
This is sticking i was watching a phillies game the other day because i bet baseball now i wish fucking walsh bets baseball
and they they put home run with the logo of the phillies in front of the home so it looked like foam run. P-H-O-M-E.
Foam run.
You motherfucker. That stuck in my head
for what, 15 years now?
He was doing that?
Yeah, I lost my
I forgot my phone at home, which
you know what? Hey, fuck you.
An hour away.
How long would it go before you
noticed your phone
not phone missing?
Everyone else is clicking away.
I wouldn't have made it out of the neighborhood.
Chaley's driving, clicking away on his phone.
Were you driving? No, I wasn't.
But see, I drive, so I've got ways just to check
for cops. Yeah, I would notice as soon as I get in the car.
Yes, but you like when somebody else
is driving from Bisbee because it gives you the chance to stare
at the window. Well, no. When he's driving, his phone is from Bisbee because it gives you the chance to stare at the window.
Well, no, when he's driving, his phone is the most important because that's what we listen to.
Oh, hang on.
Let me plug this quick because it's fucking great.
What's it called?
Covert.
Covert.
This podcast.
And they're like hour-long episodes of covert shit.
of covert shit.
This was about in Sierra Leone where these British officers
were taken hostage
and the British SAS had to come in
on this, it was called Operation...
Certain Death.
Certain Death.
Part one and two.
I had to pause it
and then we had to gamble, of course.
Is there going to be any death
in Operation Certain Death?
And I went, it seems like no.
And he went, nah, probably one guy.
He hit it accurately.
Wow, okay.
Like the most beloved dude on SAS.
But only one guy.
He picked one guy.
So, yeah, his phone is the most important.
Hold on.
Covert is on Audioboom.
We don't have a fucking sponsorship.
We've sponsored them, but I'm just saying this.
But they're our server.
Oh, all right.
Our company is Audioboom.
Oh, Audioboom.
They help us out with all this.
I don't know nothing.
Covert is it.
I know.
Once I had to talk about Covert, we listened to a few minutes.
I go, okay, I could sell it.
Then we actually listened.
It's fucking great.
It's good.
You almost started that Mumbai episode.
And I go, no, because you're going to drop me off in 20 minutes.
And I'm going to sit there wondering for a week until you pick me back up.
But after New York, the second one will drop.
And I pick you up.
And we drive back to business.
There we go.
Continue on.
All right.
So you've forgotten your phone.
Yeah.
So I'm going to call the gumps.
Did you say phone or phone?
Oh, Christ.
Hairsuit.
Hairsuit?
Oh, I guess it's obvious what a hairsuit is.
You live in one.
Show your back, Hannigan.
This doesn't have video yet.
There's no point just looking at me.
There it does.
It's rolling.
Oh, really? You don't remind me. There's a camera right there.
Don't remind me of that.
I forget my phone. We came up
a day early to stay overnight at
the airport, so I call the Gumps,
hire them to drive my phone
up. Yeah, we have Gumps.
They do Gump work.
One day you'll have Gumps
in the apparel. They're like
Epsilons.
I can only hope.
Yeah, they have nothing to do, and they have no ambition, and they live next door to us in a trailer or camper.
Well, no.
They slum it around.
They leave their vehicles elsewhere, and they live at another house.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
So they drive the phone up.
The next day, I bring a bag because I'm going back to stay over at the same airport hotel that I stay in on the way out.
And I bring a bag full of booze to have a bar at the pool at the airport with my wet swimming trunks and I go I'm going to leave this bag
because I'm coming
back in a week to the same hotel
so I can leave this bag
I can't travel with
big giant bottles of booze
you had a handle of vodka
you had big bottles and I'm like
and mixers and everything
you ought to have seen our UK tour fucking packaging
so I go I'm going to leave this bag and then I said Yeah, and mixers and everything. You can't. You ought to have seen our UK tour fucking packaging.
So I go, I'm going to leave this bag.
And then I said, because I stay there often enough, but if there's a new person, they might say, no, you can't leave your bag here.
You weren't going to leave this bag full of half-empty now booze in the room,
get to the airport from the shuttle, and then call and say,
hey, I left my bag, but I'll be back in a week.
Yeah, because then they can't say no.
Exactly.
You're also testing your juice.
And I also have one bottle of whiskey and one bottle of vodka, so I wrapped them in a pool towel so they wouldn't
clank together and bust when the
clumsy guy from Lost and Found
fucks it up.
So they either figured it was a plant or you
tried to steal towels?
That's the problem.
Oh no. So
I go to the airport. I leave
the bag. I go, bingo, don't let me forget to call the hotel until I, quote, quote, left my bag.
And we're at the bar.
And, oh, no, we just checked in.
And then I went out to smoke a cigarette before we go through security.
And I go, fuck, where's my backpack?
I left my backpack in the room beside the green bag
that I was going to pretend to leave.
That's a good thing you called.
Then I had to call and explain to her,
we're literally walking distance from the hotel
if it wasn't 117 degrees in Tucson Arizona so I just called and I said hey listen I left my bag
in the room can you have the shuttle driver just bring it over rather than send the shuttle driver to me to make it a double trip.
Just have him send my red backpack because the green bag,
and then I had to explain how I was going to leave that as a goof.
And then I realized, oh, there's stolen hotel towels in there
that I wasn't going to take.
I was going to leave them behind.
And you have to expose the entire plan. in there that I wasn't going to take. I was going to leave them behind. And...
You have to expose the entire plan.
I'm saying I wrote
a Curb Your Enthusiasm
script.
They're going to think I stole the
towels. I wasn't stealing the towels.
I just wanted to leave a bag.
What's wrong with that?
I was using the towels to fool you guys.
Nobody believes that those
episodes are based on real life, but
it's things like that that make it into the
show. Oh, that was
another curb
beat. Yeah. That was
where I had wrapped the bottle
so they wouldn't bust together, but
Bingo's friend Kelly
came by that morning,
and we're drinking right up until we have to go to the airport,
and she takes the bottle of vodka.
So you go, oh, I didn't want the bottles to crash together.
Oh, there's only one bottle in there, sir.
This is going to crash into your wet jock strap.
your wet jockstrap?
God, it would be so easy to write bad comedy if your life
was as boring as mine is right now.
You only have four gigs left.
Yeah.
And
how many
more games of the World Cup
here I go
I know but what about
the isn't this a many been evergreen
yeah but
this goes out next week when he's in
well he's finishing up New York
it'll be
decided then yeah be a World Cup champion
They'll be celebrating in
Shakhtar
What? Is that where
Don't ask
Is that fucking where Croatia lives?
Is that where Croatia lives?
He said don't ask
That's all we need
Yeah the Croatia should win
Hopefully
Well now that I'm out
I don't give a fuck
oh look at the
cynicism
who are you
oh I have
England in a pool
yeah
no you had
England and
I'm Croatia
this is what's left
is Croatia
England
France is definitely
in the final
and now it's
so I
fucking hate France.
Just everything about it disgusts
me. Starting with the language.
You got pretty good bread.
I'm also against
England
because I stand with Hennigan.
It is great to see.
Over France, yeah. Fuck yeah.
I'm all England if it comes to France, England.
It's so interesting that you hate England so much,
yet some of the English players play for your beloved Manchester United.
So you cheer for them.
This is why I wind this up while I have to go get a piss.
Because they are honorary normal people
when they're playing for Manchester United.
Because Manchester United is
in effect a Scottish club.
Oh, right, because it's in Manchester.
No, because it was basically
created by Matt Busby and Alex Ferguson.
Are we inserting a little
soccer marmalade here?
This is basically a trailer to an enormous
announcement.
Check out Covert and perhaps soccer marmalade? This is basically a trailer to an enormous announcement. Check out Covert and perhaps Soccer Marmalade.
You guys were talking about that last night.
I was like, are they making up?
We're going to bring it back.
Are we putting Sam and Diane back together?
Is that what's happening here?
Maybe more coming wide.
I look more like Kirstie now than
Diane.
Yeah, soccer marmalade is going to come
back. Yeah. For real? We're talking about it.
Here's the thing. So much demand.
Here's the difference. Here's the difference is
that Hennigan is adamant that we
keep the name soccer marmalade. Of course.
I love it. I can't wait to do a t-shirt for it.
And I want to change the name no come on did you say phone
how about this for a name for a soccer podcast because this is a soccer term
this is what they call a person who just hangs around in front of the goal
trying to poach a goal is that called a goalie goalie? No. No, that's the defender. Is it Sokker Tapenad?
Yeah.
A player who does that
is said to be loitering with intent.
And that would be a good name for a podcast.
You'll put the appropriate crickets there, wouldn't you?
Well, now I guarantee you
some lazy podcaster will use that name.
Exactly.
Yeah, you've just ruined it for yourself.
Oh, no, you're here.
Lazy podcaster.
That hurts.
Oh!
That hurts.
That hurt me.
Ow!
Anyway, the main thing is the fan can rejoice jubilantly.
The fan?
The fan.
Maybe we should ask the fan
if the fan wants the name to change.
Fan don't know.
Fuck the fan.
You can't listen to the fan.
That was a trick to see
if this was actually
Brian Hannigan.
Yeah.
If he wanted to go to the fan,
I would say this is not.
Pull off the mask.
This is a fake Hannigan.
So are the episodes still available?
Oh, yeah.
They're still out?
I think I'm still playing premium double plus subscriptions
so I can do lots of content analysis on where it's being downloaded.
I noticed that on my credit card statement.
Oh, you still have that?
I'm still paying Podbean for the Brechel podcast
that never went out once.
Never went out once.
So controversial.
It never aired.
Job creators, man.
You guys are doing it.
It's our relationship or the podcast.
Good.
I just met some fans in the toilet.
They have new toilets here at the Comedy Store.
Was this a period?
I know we don't have an ad break
in this special, but hey, Comedy
Store, they have new toilets
in the back there.
Like, it used to be just a single
toilet that was unisex.
Right by the door.
Yeah, Coke toilet
at One Cedar, where if they are
doing coke in there and you really have to
piss, you're gonna have to wait till they're done doing coke and possibly fucking depending on the quality of the coke.
Now it's the actual men's and ladies with the fucking three urinals and two dudes that know you and want to talk to you.
And one of them says his last name is Stan Hope.
And I go, I need to see ID.
But I just got these guys talking about soccer so I could come up and piss quickly and I don't have time and I don, I need to see ID, but I just got these guys talking about soccer
so I could come up and piss quickly,
and I don't have time, and I don't care.
Marshall Stanhope, here's to you.
What were we talking about?
Marshall?
That's what he said.
He said his name is Marshall Stanhope,
and he's lied to people forever that we're cousins.
Are the toilet seats still black?
This is a urinal, Tony.
Not now.
Men are talking. No, no is a urinal, Tony. Not now. Men are talking.
No, no, no.
I have a theory that all the toilets in this place are black
because you can see your Coke line better on the toilet seat.
Have you ever done Coke?
No.
Not on a toilet seat.
I was going to say, that was the follow-up question.
I thought you were going to say they felt they were all black
because they had to stay down during the national anthem.
Oh!
And I got crickets for my
loitering with intent. Oh, no, change the
put in thunderous applause.
You're pushing the button now.
Yeah. If you did
coke off of a toilet
where you had to use the toilet
seat, that means
you're in an establishment
where there's no toilet tank as an option.
Like someone removed the lid off the toilet tank.
I used to do the coke up here, but now we're down to the seat.
We take the tank lid off so no one can hide a gun in there.
Yeah.
That's like the kind of place where like the walls, there used to be wall underneath, but
now it's just magazine cutouts and Sharpie.
Like the toilet tank is definitely gone.
Yeah, that's a really disgusting place.
No, no one does it on a toilet seat, India.
All right.
Yeah.
Look, I watch a lot of HBO.
You're using the wrong part of the toilet.
Apparently, HBO seems to think that people do a lot of using the wrong part of the toilet.
HBO seems to think that people do a lot
of coke on toilet
seats.
This was not my
knowledge.
You mean Marshall
stand up like Marshall's
the store.
I was thinking
Marshall like the
French soccer player.
Hey maybe we should
pretend to take a
break.
Maybe.
Then I'll look at
each other and go
who's talking about
what here. See. Yes. Someone look at each other and go, who's talking about what here?
See, someone look at your
watch. This is supposed to be a short
podcast. I have shit to do.
Oh shit, I didn't set
a timer when we started. I have to
do two full
shows on the Wednesday-Thursday
here, and then I have to do seven
shows at once
by doing Joe Rogan's podcast.
And then get to New
York where we still have
tickets left.
Wait, no. By the time this airs now.
Fuck you.
It was sold out.
It's over. After I sold out. You missed it, losers.
By the time this is.
Well, yeah, after I do Joe Rogan's podcast, the few tickets I have left in New York, but Skank Fest is going on.
And I remember thinking I was going to die doing Skank Fest during promotion.
We're promoting a book or something.
Two years ago.
At least two years ago.
And it was just chaos.
And we left early. And I've read
stories about
Skankfest
is trying to one-up itself
like the Desert Party used to do.
And it's getting
fucking weird. And I can't do
this, that.
My New York
shows, Skankfest,
even for fun, and Rogan, and not die. Wait, is Skankfest in New York shows, Skankfest, even for fun.
Wait, Skankfest is Rogan and not I.
Wait, is Skankfest in New York City?
Yeah, it's in Brooklyn.
In Brooklyn.
It's all like in the scene.
It's during your shows, though.
I mean, you would have to.
Well, it's Thursday.
It'll go on after my shows.
It'll go on like the desert party.
Oh, okay.
You go, oh, the desert party.
Do you?
Oh, I have my show then.
I have to do an hour and a half.
I'm playing stovepipe wells.
I'm going to miss everything.
No, that shit seems to go on.
I should have asked Ari more about it last night.
That's Big Jay Oakerson and Dan Soder from the Bonfire.
They talk about it.
Yeah, I think it was in Terra Bang where
I was looking where they just
released like a hundred
comedians are gonna be there
in the
three four days it starts
but they haven't released a
schedule of shows because it's
that close it's like the desert party
where yeah these people
are gonna be there it's gonna be fucked up
there's three or four stages and they do some weird shit ari i remember reading stories about
ari last year stuff i wouldn't do in my in my heyday i'm like all right i think there was blood
and fucking maybe feces or vomit or i don't know. There was a line I remember reading where I go, yeah, I probably wouldn't have crossed
that line, but the line hadn't been drawn, so I didn't need to.
That's the most important part.
Yeah, just pee is enough.
Well, Ari and you had kind of a little...
Yeah, it was just pee.
Tip for tap in All Things Comedy podcast festival.
Yeah, I think I peed on them.
I would say I drew my... All Things Comedy podcast festival.
Yeah, I think I peed on them.
Yeah.
That's another thing with the skank fest,
and it's a terror that I've repeated,
but I don't think people...
I read the 100 comic lineup,
and I'm like,
all right, I know that name,
but I don't know if I know that person
or if I've just heard that person's name.
And when I get into a social situation like that where do I know that person or if I've just heard that person's name. And when I get into a social situation like that,
where do I know you or do I just know of you?
Did I pee on you?
Did I pee on you?
Oh, Danish and O'Neill.
I'm sure we met Danish and O'Neill.
At the All Things Comedy.
Yeah, the All Things Podfest.
I think they were at Skyfest.
Oh, I'm sure I didn't meet him until.
No, no.
Not until All Things Comedy.
Because we had just listened to him on Chrysler's podcast.
But for a second.
The marathon.
When I was reading that this morning in bed, I'm like, I'm sure I met them.
But what if I'm wrong?
What if I'm wrong?
We were really fucked up.
And I peed on Ari Shaffir.
And if I pee on Ari Shaffir, that means I'm too drunk to remember the details of whether I met new folks.
And it's a panic situation of do I look like a fucking like I can't wait to morph into like the Bukowski I want to be.
If I'm maybe I'm already there where people just know he's not going to remember you.
He doesn't.
I remember reading a Bukowski biography where they
prefaced it the biographer
saying
understand at this point in his
life he his
his memories not clear
and so
you know this is to the best of
his yeah I want to
be that guy where they go hey
hey old Mr. Stanhope
Jägermeister
maybe you should keep a piss journal
I wouldn't trust you
that's the dream
is to have an excuse to not remember
people that's like see like my name's India so like everybody's That's the dream is to have an excuse to not remember people.
That's like, see, like, my name's India,
so, like, everybody's grandmother since the third grade
has remembered who the fuck I am,
and I am terrible with names.
And I used to work at Flapper,
so I used to see hundreds of comics a week,
and, like, I just, I never remember anybody,
and they always remember me.
Yeah, except for the guy that was going to book you for tomorrow night.
India, Pearl, Olivia, Grace.
Yeah.
You get to a certain age and you're not close to it.
It's a good try.
All right.
Yeah.
All your teachers remember you
no like
people I went to school with
people I used to work with
boring people
I never know
boring people
whatever
give me another example
I'll say boring people
well comic
like most comics in LA
boring people
boring people
alright whatever
no
I'm not saying you're boring
I'm saying India's not
that yeah no i'm just saying
like i get the anxiety because i feel like an asshole have you read h uh john benjamin's book
it's called it's a great title failure is an option yes yeah you just started that and then
i saw it was there something twitter between you two going on last night?
Oh, no.
We went to the same high school a year apart.
Really?
What?
Except I quit.
Yeah, he went to Doherty.
How did I not know that?
That's hilarious.
Yeah, and he talks about all this Worcester shit where I tweeted that.
I said, I'm so glad H. John Benjamin, who I don't know, again, I have a memory
of maybe talking
to him for a second somewhere
or that might have been a
dream or an imagination.
So I don't know if I know
him, but he's talking about growing up
in Worcester where we grew up.
And it's like, I'm just,
I tweeted, if he was sitting next
to me, I would so annoy him with my own stories of Worcester.
And there's even like specific names.
You get into a, well, you wouldn't, you're too young to remember the Dream Machine Arcade.
It was the video arcade, the Worcester Galleria.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
I know the gallery.
Yeah, we would.
I remember some fucking bullies.
He's talking about being beaten up there.
And I go, in 1982, I go, that could have been me,
but I always lost all my fights too.
But I remember some punk kids when I was smoking cigarettes.
You could smoke in the mall back then.
I was smoking outside the Dream Machine,
and some fucking 16-year-old punks came up and said,
hey, can I get a drag of that?
And I said, sure.
And they took it.
And then they fucking stomped it out in front of me.
And I couldn't do anything about it.
I was fucking still.
I still.
That still burns?
Yeah.
Fuck yeah, it burns.
It's the fucking man's me too.
You don't fucking get over that shit just because you're 50.
You remember
when you couldn't fight back.
We were at an arcade
me and BBJ
who's a guy that
we ran around in high school with
and we were leaving the arcade.
First be his best.
The rest spells itself out.
We were leaving the arcade and
some guys were crossing into the arcade, like across the street.
I got my dots in 510, and they did that, like, oh, slow down, guys,
and reached in and fucking punched BBJ right in the face as we're leaving.
I stepped on it, but I had this horrible engine leak, like oil leak.
So I just belched out a bunch of smoke, and we just kind of put it away, like oil leak. So I just belched out a bunch of smoke,
and we just kind of put it away, like limping.
And I go, fuck, man.
He goes, go to my house, go to my house.
And he goes up, and he grabs a gun from the closet.
And he goes, we're going back there.
It's a pellet gun.
But we go by, and I go, so what do we do?
And he goes, just drive by.
And we drive by, and then I do this step on it once again.
It's just a belching sound.
And I do this weird big circle.
And right when we go by, he's out the window with the pellet going,
motherfuckers!
But there's not even a tink, tink, tink.
It's not even loaded.
There's nothing in it.
And I'm like, what was the point?
Those guys are gone or they're playing Q-Bert.
They're not, there's no one here.
And it was just, it still burns me
because it's, you're 50, I'm 52.
And you still, those are the things I think.
I don't think about.
But they weren't still there?
They didn't even see you guys drive by?
Who the fuck knows?
I couldn't even ID the guy.
It was smoke everywhere.
Yeah, no, like you're like hunting down some idiots in John Candy's car from Uncle Buck.
Listen, we have to do these things as men to prove that we can't get put over.
When I was 18 and I moved to Hollywood to be an actor, that girlfriend, Dragon, was
her name on the back of my moped.
I just bought the same moped, by the way, that I owned in 1985 in Hollywood.
Someone was selling one on Craigslist and Bisbee, so I bought it, and it's just sitting there doing nothing because I don't want to ride it.
But it's one of those, yeah, for 500 bucks, I'll chase a memory.
Yes. And I had her on the back on Sunset Boulevard East,
past on the other side of La Brea,
going down towards that Denny's.
And I'm in the side lane at a red light.
And as soon as it turned green,
the people that were beside us,
a couple of dudes staring at us,
giving me shit,
mock.
And as soon as it turned green, it started going.
They go, something probably faggot.
And then tossed an entire, like, big gulp.
Yeah, Sprite.
I knew it was Sprite.
Like, I could taste it right in my fucking face.
The thing
it has pedals on it. You have to give
it a go. And it was so weak like
just alone to go up a hill
you would have to help by pedaling
Pedal assist. And so with her
on the back she had a decent
sized keister that
slowed down
like
dripping with fucking 44 ounces. Sound sounded like the moped was crying
fuck you too late they can't hear you
yeah that's some fucking me too shit that sticks with with you. That's why fucking people die in hells of gunfire years later.
What was the catalyst?
Was it his job at the post office?
No.
No.
This is like 30 years ago shit.
Was it some deep state conspiracy?
Manchurian candidature.
He got too close to the truth.
Guy threw a Sprite in my face in the 80s.
Sprite, dude.
He did it for Sprite.
There's so many people I would love to track down from my youth that you just can't find.
All I remember was her nickname was Dragon.
I have pictures of her, but she doesn't look like she looked in 1985.
A, because she's aged.
B, she's aged like a woman.
Who's named Dragon?
I bet she still has a sizable keister.
Yeah, was it D-R-A-G-G-I-N?
Dragon.
Blah, blah, blah.
She lived in North Hollywood,
and I would have to drive her up Highland to the last bus stop
because you can't get over the fucking Hollywood Hills on a push.
No, not unless you're gonna go through like
Pedal helped
Pedal assist
That's what I was looking for
Yeah, there's no way I would ever find
her and I'm never gonna be famous
enough for her to go, I think I fucked
that guy in the 80s
He liked Sprite
Yeah
Were you actually going to the Denny's? He liked Sprite. Yeah.
Were you actually going to the Denny's?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I just remember there was a Denny's down that way.
I have other weird memories that I've...
Yeah.
Is she like one of the top three that you'd want to contact?
No. You've talked about this.
Oh, no.
There's a million people. I you'd want to contact? No. You talked about this. Oh, no. There's a million people.
I don't want to contact you.
I want the ones that I don't even remember to contact me.
Oh.
And, you know, hey, remember whatever.
And fill your brain with some random memory of, like,
something incredible that you probably did.
That's how you wrote the book.
That's a lot of stuff you would never remember
unless someone brought it up and you're like
holy shit we did do that yeah do you have a lawyer i need a lawyer
oh why don't we take a break and get some drinks why i don't i don't know if we need a break oh
i don't know i didn't i didn't check time. About half time?
Half an hour.
Really?
No, I bet it's 37 minutes.
I'm going 37.
I'm going 48.
What's that?
It's about 41, but I started it recording before we were even close. All right.
So 37 probably is actually short.
On the nose. Let's just wrap, that's 37 probably of actual show.
On the nose.
Let's just wrap this up.
The Men Are Talking podcast.
India Pearl's here.
India Pearl piping in
with bullshit.
You'll never forget her.
Well,
how long,
how long have you been?
I want to,
I want,
do you have any awful
Hollywood stories
since you are,
you're basically my kid.
Okay.
Yeah.
Your,
your mother was my first girlfriend and now you're basically my kid. Okay, yeah. Your mother was my first girlfriend, and now you're here doing stand-up comedy.
Yep.
And you've been here, what, two, three years?
Four years.
Four years. Yeah.
Do you have any wretched stories of having sprites thrown on you?
Having sprites thrown on me.
Do you have a Me Too story yet?
Yeah, well, kind
of.
I don't want to waste material.
I want to darken up the mood, but
I did when I first...
Darken up the mood!
When I first moved out to LA,
I was
just trying to get
advice from any comics that I had met.
And I met this guy.
He was like 40.
And I won't say his name because I don't want to like whatever.
Well, first of all, you've already shunned us by acting like 40 is way too old.
No, no, no, no.
No, I'm just saying.
It's crushed all our boners.
Anyway, so I met this guy.
He was a comic.
And I met him at the improv and i and he was really
funny and i introduced myself and i was like hey like i'd love to just take you out for coffee
and like talk to you about comedy and whatever because i'm new to town and he's like you said
i said this to him so and he's like all right cool hang cool. Hang on. I was going to suggest that we don't have pens, but we can play honest poker.
You all write down in your head and then write it with your hand, even though we're not on video.
Or yes, I guess we are.
But yeah, fake write it on your hand who you think this comedian is or you know what we're not gonna
know who it is because we don't know anyone that young that's the sad part but just like who the
comic that you're thinking of doing this that's it it's not a it's not a wager but think of the
comedian that you comes to mind when you hear the pitch that we're about to hear.
Go ahead.
So he'd never seen me perform, and instead of taking the coffee date, he's like, not date, but whatever you'd call it,
he's like, yeah, do you want to, I actually, most of the time I'm living in San Diego,
I'm at the Comedy Palace next month.
Do you want to open for me?
And I was like, sure.
And I'm thinking it's going to be great.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I have a guest room at my apartment.
You can just stay in my apartment.
And I'm so stupid.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This sounds totally normal and fine.
And I went down there.
I was going to do two nights opening for him.
And the first night night we get back
to his apartment he'd been kind of like drinking a bit and he starts like coming on to me and i was
like oh shit i'm alone in a city that i don't know anybody and i've been drinking and here's
and i'm like in this guy's apartment and now he like expects that i'm gonna sleep with him and
i'm like oh this is kind of like maybe like my fault, though. Like, but I just didn't know what to do.
So I and like, yeah, this is.
But I hooked up with him because I didn't want it to go bad.
I was scared.
Did he pay you?
No, but he let me open for him the rest of the weekend.
No, for the opening for the weekend.
Like, did he?
I think so.
All right. I don't remember. It was years ago. did he? I think so. All right.
I don't remember.
It was years ago.
I think he did.
Yeah.
All right.
But I still, I always felt, like, really weird about it.
I was like, if I had said no, like, would it have gone, like, wrong?
Like, would something horrible have happened?
Okay.
Let me share this with you.
I was doing a gig one nighter in my youth thief river falls okay minnesota
shit small town and it's one of those where you do they do comedy early and then it turns into a
dance club and so there's a girl that had been at the show and now it's all dance clubby shitty
awful no and she had a lot of accoutrements and a hat and a thing and she looked very hot and
we're in a the one of those gigs where the hotel is part so you just leave it's the gig is the bar
of the hotel yeah so i was drunk and i just i i did one of those bold moves where I go, listen, if you want to come back to my room, it's just for sex and I'm not going to see you again.
And she went, that's great with me.
And we went up to my room into the light.
And the joke about beer goggles and all that.
No, she was in a darkly lit.
She had camouflaged herself in a bar so well that now we're in the room and she's taking off.
And it just gets worse the more she takes off.
she takes off and then on her shoulder or not her she had a tattoo a prison tattoo that says lot of product had come out of her so it was uh
like rolly like the michelin tire yeah she was a 20 year old girl who had four kids probably
that kind of yeah and it was just and i had to fuck her because I had made such a production out of listen, you come to my room.
It's just for the fucking.
And I feel the same way where I kind of got raped.
You me too.
Not raped.
I shouldn't say rape.
It's like it's you're not.
It's like it's you didn't really want to. But you felt like you had. Well shouldn't say raped. It's like you're not, it's like you didn't really want to, but you were like, well, I'm here.
I feel like I brought this on myself.
I walked into this.
I did this.
I'm at fault.
Yeah.
How could you if you don't have an erection?
Well, because I was young.
I was like 25.
Yeah.
And with a beast
like that they smell fear you want to be careful by the way india pearl hennigan how could you
he's the guy that notoriously in a similar situation on a one-night stand where he got
her back to his room left because she had a giant nipple hair.
Oh, boy.
How could you?
He could because he's an evil prick.
Oh, my God. So you know what?
Sometimes she was her suit.
Her nipple was.
That's a good throwback.
Good throwback.
All right.
I want a drink and I want a cigarette and we're in a basement where we
have no drinks and no uh ashtrays and we can't smoke so uh that's a that's a goddamn podcast
thanks for uh thanks for wrapping up the uh men are talking podcast thank you for having me i
thank you for allowing me to speak uh brett erick, Greg Chaley, Brian Hennigan, and myself
would all like to
help you with your comedy.
So if you want to
come back to our Airbnb.
If you want to open for all of us.
We could really
workshop some stuff. We got the room for another hour.
So we could really just take a little
break and then maybe some notes.
I don't have an apartment in San Diego.
And all our wives can watch through the plexiglass
from the producer's booth.
And when they bang on the window,
we'll go,
shush up, ladies.
Men are talking.
Thanks to the Comedy Store.
And to Sean Rose for giving us that phrase