The Doug Stanhope Podcast - Ep. #286: Remember November with Morgan Murphy
Episode Date: November 21, 2018Doug, Morgan Murphy, Chad and Hennigan get fired up over deleting tweets and all the shit you ever said on Twitter. Email your questions for the podcast to stanhopepodcast@gmail.com Black Friday Mer...ch Sale Starts Nov. 23rd and runs through Dec 17th to guarantee on time holiday delivery (Domestic orders only). THis year we are featuring a never before sold online item - **STOLEN HOTEL BIBLES, Signed and Personalized (while supplies last).**Also, we have a new Podcast Coffee Mug and the last of the VHS copies of “Popov Vodka presents Doug Stanhope in the Funhouse”. [http://www.dougstanhope.com/store/](http://www.dougstanhope.com/store/) Recorded Oct. 29th, 2018 at the FunHouse in Bisbee, AZ with Doug Stanhope (@DougStanhope), Morgan Murphy (@morganmurphy), Brian Hennigan (@MrHennigan), Chad Shank (HDFatty), & Ggreg Chaille (@gregchaille). Produced & Edited by Chaille This episode is sponsored by [Robinhood.com](http://www.Stanhope.Robinhood.com) – Robin hood is the investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks, ETFS, options and Cryptos - all commission free. Robinhood is giving our podcast listeners a FREE stock like Apple, Ford, or Sprint to help build your portfolio just for signing up at **[Stanhope.Robinhood.com](http://www.Stanhope.Robinhood.com)**. [LiftMode.com](http://www.LiftMode.com) – Liftmode L-Theanine capsules and dozens of other supplements are available on Amazon, Walmart and Liftmode.com. Use coupon code **STANHOPE** to save 20% off your first order. [BlueApron.com](http://www.BlueApron.com) - Blue Apron guarantees the freshness of all your ingredients and delivers them in an insulated box right to your door. Check out this week’s menu and get your first 3 meals free at [www.BLUEAPRON.com/STANHOPE](http://www.BLUEAPRON.com/STANHOPE). [Twitch.tv](http://www.Twitch.tv) - Interact with Chad Shank while he tries to conquer video games. Go to [Twitch.tv](http://www.Twitch.tv), search **@HD_Fatty** and subscribe. If you have an Amazon Prime account it's free. Instructions are pinned up top on Chad's Twitch page. LINKS - Hennigan suggests picking up “Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder (Incerto)” by Nassim Nicholas Taleb - [https://www.amazon.com/Antifragile-Things-That-Disorder-Incerto/dp/0812979680](https://www.amazon.com/Antifragile-Things-That-Disorder-Incerto/dp/0812979680) We like what they are doing over at [FIRRP.org](http://www.firrp.org) - Check it out Support the Innocence Project - [http://www.innocenceproject.org](http://www.innocenceproject.org) Closing song, “The Stanhope Rag" (Instrumental) Written and Performed by Scotty Conant - [www.soundcloud.com/scottyconant](http://www.soundcloud.com/scottyconant)Support the show: http://www.Patreon.com/stanhopepodcast
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click someone make this lady a drink what are you drinking morgan murphy
no no it's not listen this is an evergreen. This might be coming out Thanksgiving week.
When this comes out, it is Remember November,
meaning we still drink, but we don't get blackout drunk.
We remember. I remember. I didn't get that drunk.
Remember November.
So this will be airing, but I haven't seen you in a long time.
It's been like a month, over a month.
Not here.
Where did I see you?
I don't know.
I don't know either.
You haven't been here when I was here in a month.
I know.
It's been a while.
You said over a month.
I said it's been at least a month.
Hold the mic towards you.
You don't have to go too far.
Okay.
I forgot how things work.
You're a porn director.
Pull it towards your mouth.
I just got off the car.
A little water would be amazing right now.
Tell Gump, you know.
That's off-brand.
Yeah, I just got, Doug, I wanted to take a shower.
I wanted to settle in.
You had a hat on. That's why we didn't hug you when you came in.
We wanted to, but we heard you didn't shower.
You got a hat?
Wait, you just drove from the airport, not from LA?
No, from Los Angeles.
Oh, Jesus.
I have left you two messages, and you didn't call me back,
but you liked my tweet, so I knew you didn't hate my guts.
I didn't hate your guts.
Because I always worry I hate my guts.
I gave you a shout-out the other day on the old Twitter about your nationalism bit,
and it's more relevant than ever.
That's true.
Thanks.
I've been ignoring Twitter for sober times.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll tweet, but if I read more than three comments,
there's someone who pisses me off where I want to drink and smoke and kill them.
I think I'm now only on Twitter to comment on Twitter.
I think I'm only on Twitter because I feel like
I know I shouldn't be on Twitter.
My life isn't any better for it.
That being said, I feel like I should be aware
of things that are going on, even if they're awful,
and that's one of them.
Wait, he's supposed to be forcing yourself to live in the atrocities.
I'm forcing people to see, like, if the country is going to shit,
I just want to see how
and why, and like,
I feel like it would be,
I could live in a
sort of ignorant way and not know,
but I feel like I'm supposed to know.
You know what I mean? It's like knowing what kids are listening to and stuff.
Everything you're describing is why I've muted
almost everybody that I follow on Twitter.
No, I follow people who hate me
on purpose.
It's so awful. I never on Twitter. No, I follow people who hate me on purpose. It's so awful.
I never get to a place where I
can figure out if it's okay to follow
Trump until I realized
I don't watch him in the news
so why would I care what he says?
I've never followed him. I don't follow any big
I don't follow the
Kardashian, whoever's got the most
people. I don't follow Trump and I have never wanted to, I see his tweets I don't want the Kardashian, whoever's got the most people. I don't follow Trump, and I have never wanted to.
I see his tweets.
I don't want to yell back except the World Series tweet, because I thought that's my thing, and you don't take it.
All right.
Morgan, you haven't been down in quite a while.
Right.
And I really missed you.
It was just your birthday.
Yeah. And you went to was just your birthday. Yeah.
And you went to Vegas, I heard.
Uh-huh.
And I left you a message.
I go, hey, it's Morgan Murphy's birthday because I saw someone tweet it.
And then everyone from Gump to the ex, Mrs. Gump.
And, oh, yeah, we already called.
And then I left you a message, which is really even...
Joby is here.
Yeah.
He sets his birthday on Facebook to April Fool's Day
because that's the day that a million people you haven't heard from in 20 years...
Oh, I hope you have a happy...
But then it's the Dodgers, and you're a Dodgers fan with a Dodgers tattoo.
And we hate the Dodgers.
No,
I believe me.
I was very not like Joby was kind enough.
And for most games to send me some sort of fuck you text about the world
series.
Yeah.
Which one of my,
you know,
which one of the people on,
on my team was going to be awful.
You know, like one of the people on my team was going to be awful.
Well, Puig is the worst.
He fucking licks his back.
It's as disgusting as Steph Curry dangling his fucking mouthpiece out like he's a raver on fucking...
It worked, though.
It worked.
It's not like you get up here and say,
well, it's like Kenley Jansen, if he licked his ball,
maybe it didn't.
He did well.
I thought it was a metaphor for like, I'm going to stick this in your ass.
Before I go on stage, I jerk off on the opener, but I kill every night.
It works.
You know what?
Louis C.K. didn't kill every night.
But I did because I jerked off on the opener.
Point being,
I missed you. And then I said,
the second night,
when it wasn't your birthday,
I contacted you again saying, I think your birthday
in Vegas is kind of
hurting our relationship, because I can't
talk shit about the Dodgers
in the World Series.
Well, I'm sorry. I should have
called you back. If it was the bad news bears
playing. I should have considered your feelings.
I should have called you back. I should have thought about you.
I forgot that you're in a place where... No, you've been calling
fucking Gump and everyone else
in my social circle. Full disclosure,
I was like, I don't like to call you
when I think you'll remember it and I thought you weren't drinking.
Fair enough.
That's fair enough.
Point being, I missed you.
And at some point I thought...
That's nice.
Because I know.
More than anyone, I bust your balls and I pick on you a lot.
Not more than anyone.
More than anyone, really?
Yeah.
Well, I noticed that I hadn't picked on anyone more than you in a long time.
And I realized I miss you.
And I really did and do, even if it's just to pick on you.
Aw, thank you.
That's so sweet.
So welcome home.
Thank you.
How long are you here for, Barker?
I don't know.
I had an old gump over there and stuff.
I had a bed. This is a fun
story. I had this extra bed, so
I thought I'd drive it out instead of buy one here.
So I just thought, I'll get the
bed out, and then I'll, you
know, see when I need to be back.
Now the bed's here. Where's the
dog? I didn't
bring the dog because I didn't know what my trip was
going to be like, And the dog is only
registered as an emotional support animal
on one airline right now because everyone needs
new paperwork. So I
was worried I wouldn't be able to get him back.
It was a whole thing. So you drove out your
flying bag. Yeah, I drove out
flying bag. You got
a one-way rental? No, I have it in my
truck that I keep in Arizona, but I
drove it out last time so I could bring furniture
back and save money by not
buying new stuff. You have a truck?
Yeah, I got a truck. She has an Arizona
truck. Are you not listening?
I have a truck that I keep in Arizona
because I love it.
Rub it in his face.
I didn't want to rent a car every single time I was
here and I didn't want to drive 10 hours every
single time I wanted to be here. You are the perfect dominatrix for Hennigan right now.
What?
You own what?
He wanted a truck.
Only because I like trucks, and I want one.
Look at my truck.
Look at it.
Envy it, you filthy fucking uncut Scotchman.
I just, like, shove my purchases in his face.
Only if they're truck-based.
It doesn't help that his chair is, like, a childlike level below us. I keep wanting to lift Hennigan up. Oh, no, they're truck based it doesn't help that his chair is like a childlike
level below us
I keep wanting to
lift Hennigan out
oh no they're
at the same
they're at the same
level
they're at the same
level
his feet are swinging
big woman
and a short
short man
Hennigan you cannot
if uh
if Doug has a
um
a couple phone books
you could drive my truck
and just try it out
oh that's kind of you.
Thank you.
Thanks very much, Scarecrow woman.
I feel like Scarecrows have a very ideal body type, actually.
I don't think we've talked to you on the podcast since I destroyed our careers.
What would you do?
I did Roseanne.
Oh, yeah, you did Roseanne.
And you wrote for Roseanne.
I did.
So I did the final episode. You did the last ever episode of Roseanne. Oh, yeah, you did Roseanne. And you wrote for Roseanne. I did. So I did the final episode.
You did the last ever episode of Roseanne.
And you wrote the last ever episode of Roseanne.
I wrote one like five before that.
But, yeah, I wrote.
Yeah, I wrote.
It's been a fun year.
I wrote on Roseanne.
I opened for Louis.
I opened for Doug.
They didn't invite you back to write for Killing Roseanne?
No, I have a really...
Honestly, everyone there was amazing.
The people who moved on and did that show were great.
Did you have an opportunity to work on the new corners?
Yeah, I did, but it was a very amicable...
I had other things going on.
And also, there was, you know, I...
You're on with George Lopez.
Oh, I did a pilot.
I was doing a pilot when all the shit went.
I hadn't been there.
I hadn't been there for three, four months when there was, like, K.I.
Because we wrapped the last episode December of 2017.
So people don't, I think, realize that we started writing, like, May, June of 2017.
So it was just, it was, and the country changed.
It was just, there was so much chaos around it that I was, you know,
I had other things that were less chaotic.
But it was unfortunate.
It bummed me out, because, I don't know, you know why.
Yeah, you can't talk about it openly well it's not even
the stuff i can't talk about openly doesn't even matter at this point the stuff that i you know
for me like personally like when we were there it was a really positive experience and then it
it's weird to be gone from something and then see chaos ensue
and sort of not know what to do with it.
And not be, I'm not, I wasn't, I was there part-time.
As a woman who enjoys giant black basketball cock,
you can attest to,
Roseanne is not a racist person.
She's an insane person.
Beautifully insane.
Functionally insane.
I don't know anything anymore.
I don't know.
I feel like I got...
I'm speaking for you.
You just keep denying.
I'm going to speak for you.
I just feel like I was very...
It was like every time something chaotic happened,
I was adjacent to it.
And it felt...
There were a few months where I just didn't...
I needed to kind of hide.
You're talking about her crazy.
I'm talking about everything kind of going on and like comedy and feeling like I had,
you know, uh, you know, the Roseanne thing was, everything was crazy.
And then there's just also, um, you know, stupid things that just seem to be blowing
up that where I see more of my friends getting sort of
in trouble when I understand
people who do sort of egregious stuff
and being punished for it but
it's just a lot there's a lot right now
on every spectrum
yeah on every spectrum and there's no way to
really talk about it
other than in the sort of context of like
a friendly conversation with friends or
or not on the air or whatever but yeah green room conversations yeah not just green room conversations like not recorded conversations no you know like i feel like uh people you know just print interviews everything's reduced to uh clickbait now it just it kills me because i want i fucking hate Trump. I want us to win.
It makes me mad from a
person on the side of, let's just
fucking get him out.
And then stop yelling at each other.
Where I was going to write a thing
when the Louis thing came out.
And I had several
incarnations of a Me Too
bit, but then the Me Too thing
kept going.
This is an over.
It's like if 9-11 kept happening and another building dropped
and another building and another.
I gotta wait till it's over to write the bit.
Well, the crazy thing is I wouldn't even know,
and I feel like I can sleep at night
knowing that the thoughts in my head
are of sort of some moral integrity.
But I wouldn't know what I'd be allowed to say out loud that wouldn't offend some subsection, some group of loud people.
I don't know who it would be.
That's such a shitty position to be in when you're trying to work.
It's hard because chances are if you think it's wrong, I also think it's wrong.
And if you think it's good, I think it's good.
Occasionally I disagree.
But the stuff I just can't stand right now is that I'm –
They would take a piece out of the sentence and say she said this.
Just like –
No, exactly.
That's –
Political ads where they're, oh, yeah, you want to hire this for a governor?
He said – and they give you three words out of context.
Well, the problem, too, is, you know,
I feel like I tweeted something.
I try to, it's hard because I don't want to be on Twitter,
and yet when I'm on there, I sometimes feel like,
oh, I have to say that even though I know
it does me no good personally or professionally.
Or otherwise.
Or otherwise, but, like,
there is stuff where I just go,
I just think,
I think the one thing that people really need to do is be like,
everyone needs to be just,
first of all,
the,
the far right white nationalist fringe.
I'm not even including that in like the everybody.
I just mean like regular people,
a little smarter about what information you sort of regurgitate back into the
world.
Because like, I think journalists are kind of doing a great, I've read a lot of articles that are great. little smarter about what information you sort of regurgitate back into the world because like
i think journalists are kind of doing a great i've read a lot of articles that are great
and then the headline is sort of as sort of tells you what the article is and then the tweet about
the article is so completely not remote remotely reflective of the article. And I just, I feel, like, I feel bad for,
I feel really bad for, like, reporters and journalists
because it's, I always, like, I was thinking about it.
Like, if I wrote a great show, maybe one day that'll happen.
If I wrote, like, a great script and then I handed it in,
they were like, love it, it's going to go on the air.
We're going to call it, you know, like, you know,
Fart Nazi or something.
And I'm like, please don't call it Fart Nazi.
I worked really hard. It's about a doctor. I please don't call it fart nazi i worked really
hard about a doctor i just don't think that would be like it would just and then everyone would go
don't watch fart nazi it looked if fart nazi that's a terrible thing i go no no no no please
read the script like please please and that's how i feel about like i've read i have been tricked
by clickbait into reading some great articles where i click on it and i go oh this is going
to be bad and then i oh, that was a very
kind of
philosophical take on that
issue that I didn't think. I thought that was just going to be
I think that's just called being tricked
by clickbait.
The problem is clickbait
used to be
kind of
reserved a little bit more for trash
subject matter.
Salacious.
You wouldn't understand how this child star looks now.
Now it's all trash subject matter.
Right, but now it's like legitimate stories are sort of reduced to that.
And I understand the financial motivation behind it,
but it's like I'm just trying to get a story.
You and I would have conversations throughout,
even at the beginning of
Me Too, and Me Too encompasses
a lot of stuff. Someone
said something racist, someone said something
shitty, someone was caught
on, you know,
fucking TM shit.
But we would talk where you would say
Well, don't say what I would say.
Well,
I'm saying where you go, I could never go public with this,
especially on Twitter where you can't make it a succinct argument.
But I think you learn with certain people who've gone public just with their stories.
And it's just there's no right way to say anything.
And I don't think any of my life stories are personally that fascinating or important
no no no we don't have a lot of requests for you what you guys are talking about just happened
right now I don't know if you guys are like veiled referencing it but I've been listening
to a lot of Howard Stern this week and Sarah Silverman did an interview with Howard Stern
and then they took a sound but they took a sound bite of whatite of what she said and not in context.
I tweeted about that.
And it's like, I know it's funny because I know the friends of mine or maybe former.
I don't know if they, it's weird when you write something and you go, I know that somebody I care about is going to not like me for this but i also feel like if anytime i've tweeted something like hey guys x y or z is not
the enemy something along those lines it's been a broad spectrum of people from kathy griffin to
kurt metz whoever it is like who i feel like if if i see something happening to somebody and their
words taken out of context in a situation all all I think is, okay, I could definitely be in their position,
and I'm only doing what I hope to God another person, a peer, would do for me.
And it's almost like OCD guilt.
It's not like being a good person.
It's like if I don't say something,
then no one's going to stand up for me when something's being misinterpreted.
Well, two things.
One, you talked me out i was going
to write an op-ed piece right at one point with the louis ck i think it was yeah and you told me
you complained about all these people that are writing op-ed pieces just to get their name
involved in the movement no i think, I also think people genuinely think
that their op is important.
That being said, it's often...
Sarah Silverman is important.
Sarah is important, but...
She's not committal as much as she should.
But what she was talking about was...
The problem with all this stuff is that female comedians,
especially, can't avoid being asked about it.
Specifically, like, I guess my generation, a little bit older, like anyone who's worked with anybody who's been sort of like me too to whatever.
And at some point it's like, I don't know what you want me to say anymore.
Like I if I said I that what I literally I was about to say
if I said
something hypothetically
and even that
I feel like
you know what I mean?
Like hypothetically
Let me make this about me
because it's the Doug Stano podcast
being pigeonholed at all
where I
fucking Hennigan
has to shake his head
when I have to do
and you're very controversial and is there any step you won't where I, fucking Hennigan, has to shake his head when I have to do,
and you're very controversial.
And is there any step you won't,
is there any subject you won't talk about?
I'm not, you find, so getting pigeonholed at all. You're controversial, but you're not.
You're answering the same questions.
Right.
What does it feel like to be a female comic is my,
is there any line in the sand?
I've been getting the what's it like being the female writer, the female comedian.
Haven't you always got that, though?
I have, but I also had the sort of fortune, misfortune of starting.
This was 18 years. I i started and then for a
while and i'm not defending this i i mean it certainly wasn't in my power but i was for many
shows the only female on the staff so i got asked about that a lot and i just like i don't i don't
know what it's always the same questions right so no matter how you're pigeonholed, you get the Ralphie May
talking about,
oh, hey, you're a really fat comic.
What's it like to steal
everybody's jokes?
Okay.
Yeah, no, it's fine.
I'll talk about it,
but I don't know what,
I don't know how to,
I don't know what people want.
Well, again,
the problem is,
I think it might come down to the audience is always wrong because,
uh,
worst part of comedy,
but yeah,
but in the sense that,
I mean,
uh,
inside baseball in the last week,
was it five days?
Jen Friedman's little,
uh,
Twitter screen where she talked about a review of a show she did.
Oh, Kirkman, yeah, where they brought up him
in her review.
Jen Kirkman, basically. And the review was basically
she didn't talk about the
subjects I wanted her to talk about.
Well, no, it was, she got pissed because it was
that she's been, you know,
it's funny because I had Kirkman and
Sasha Leggero and Meryl Marko and
Bonnie McFarlane over the other night. We had like a ladies' comedian day.
Hang on.
We have an over-under name-dropping, but you have to name-drop people our listeners.
Well, no.
I was kidding.
It was like a great women in comedy hang, and Kirkman is, you know, we've had very different
experience in the past, but she's's, she's gotten in trouble for not
saying enough, for saying too much, for not doing, you know, and, and they won't stop
asking her.
It's like, it's, you're only giving opportunities to make people other people's enemies who
aren't the enemy.
Like, I don't know what.
This is what I need to know as much as my listeners.
This is what I need to know as much as my listeners.
When you say gut into trouble and people are asking, who are the people and what is the trouble? It's so funny because I always, now when everyone says, yeah, everyone's saying this or people are saying this,
I'm like, who?
And now I'm guilty of doing that.
Good.
I just mean, well, for the most part, if I say people, then it usually refers to social media.
Right, which is not representative of people.
No, it's not representative.
Who was the coach yesterday?
They were asking him about, what do you feel about people on Twitter?
And he was like, Twitter, I don't give a Twitter.
He just goes, ah, people sitting at home with bills unpaid.
That's true.
Twitter.
Twitter.
Like the playoffs.
This is what I wish.
They are who we thought we were.
I wish I could talk about Twitter with the attitude of like a 70-year-old football coach
who just like is like, I ignore it.
I don't care.
I move on with my life.
But yeah, no, I felt awful for Jen because it's the same thing.
Kind of a similar way.
It's just like stop making other people responsible for somebody else's choice and don't give them,
don't put them in a corner where they have to,
where they have to somehow think of the magical four words
that will please everybody.
No one will right now.
Things are too contentious and,
when everybody's allowed to voice their opinion.
I felt awful the other day for Stan Hope
because I listened to that Howard Stern interview
and she, Sarah Silverman was I listened to that Howard Stern interview.
And Sarah Silverman was talking about this.
And Howard Stern says, have any other comedians ever pulled their dick out in front of you?
And she said, um, no.
And I went, oh, that is so disrespectful. For the listener that's not on Twitter, when that came out,
I have a picture of me pulling my dick out in front of Sarah Silverman, P. Waits,
Hennigan's neighbor,
my old flame for a minute.
Yeah.
I thought for sure it was going to be the next sentence
going to be, Doug Stanholm has done that.
That's what we
would refer to as green room comedy
which really was
a mental conflict when trump said uh that's just locker
room talk and you go well you know what any honest comedian would go we're way worse in a green room
except that there's the funny thing is i always felt like i could kind of say for the most part
what i've seen what i've witnessed what i've experienced like tell my story
because in my head i go well nothing i've never done anything egregious or awful or evil or even
kind of been a part of it i mean i've been part of stuff that's like edgy or dirty or whatever
that's like yeah in the context of a party setting and now i look back and i go i guess you don't like
i was 22 and somebody was like naked in the bathroom I'm just talking about the explicit level
of completely inappropriate jokes.
Right.
Retard, faggot.
Everything goes in a green room
because we're all comics and we're jaded.
So I'm not talking about
finger-fucking you in a green room.
You haven't said it in a long time,
but you said it before on a podcast
and I always thought it was funny. It's comedians are
better people. Oh, no, I've said that
on stage. I've recorded
that. We're better fucking people.
I don't listen to your
podcast about working at
UPS Graveyard.
That's the thing is that a lot of,
also a lot of people have been like, oh, that person
does this and that person does this. I go, you're talking about
some of the best human beings I know.
Like, that's, I think, why I got a little mad about the Sarah thing is I go, this is not just a person who, like, didn't commit a crime.
This is a person who is, for most of the people who are upset, an ally to them on a daily basis, politically and socially, and trying to do something good.
And that's where it kills me.
That's where, coming from, I'm like,
I'm such a borderline socialist,
and people are yelling at me,
like, don't say that word, and I'm like, I'm on your side!
The problem is that
we, when we
repeat this, give credibility
to whatever media
outlet is saying,
the world is angry at Sarah.
No. Two people on Twitter
were angry and they can create
this problem.
There's no one
fucking angry. Show me the person
that's fucking angry. Well, the people that were angry
were some comics and the people I was talking
to were kind of the same comics and I know it's like
a bit of a subtweet to a group,
but, you know, and there were people who didn't know who I was talking about when I said Sarah's not the enemy. I just don't think there's any way to win right now.
We talked about it a lot as we age, a lot of our friends get.
We used to just be partying, fucked up on ecstasy.
What was in your ass?
I don't know.
Was that yours?
And then as we get older, people are professional.
So you can't talk.
So the same way you can't talk about some things that might lose you a job, you can't take a stand.
Yeah, I can take, yeah.
But I'm saying on a personal level, we also run into those problems,
like just podcasting.
Yeah, that's our neighbor.
Yeah.
Last month I was talking shit about some lady who used to run a restaurant in town
and I saw her living as a
hoarder and she was a dick to us just as a restaurateur she was a dick to us and i was happy
and i like i have to obfuscate this story so much because i don't want someone local knowing i'm
shitting on a lady who's probably really down on her luck. I was just, for a minute, I had schadenfreude.
But when it gets to a place where you go, I can't say that out loud.
It's also not just saying things out loud for the now.
I think that people, I think even five years ago,
I don't think there was an immediate awareness of how things last on the Internet.
And I think that people now are aware in the moment
that it's happening, that it will exist forever.
And that's why it's hard to have a wildly concise,
articulate thought, an improvised thought
that makes sense, that makes people happy.
Yeah, it's... I don't know. an improvised thought that makes sense, that makes people happy. I, yeah,
it's,
uh,
I don't know.
I hope that in the future people take all that shit with the grain of salt that it should be taken with.
Is it? Well,
that's the thing too,
is that the place,
the place of the countries in right now is like,
that's the reason that you,
that's everyone is,
you know,
everyone's on edge and everyone's waiting.
Because everybody has an outlet to say something.
They do, but.
And they never have before.
And also, my daughter was asking me, we were talking about politics the other day, and
I said, politics has become like sports.
Wrestling.
But for people who are too dumb to understand sports.
And they just want to look at memes and then claim that their side is winning
based on the memes because that's that's the only outlet they have to learn stuff so it's
nobody voted for trump they voted for someone they hated in the office or voted against yeah
but the reason they but the big thing is nobody voted look at the percentage of people that
actually voted it doesn't matter Let's take a break.
Let's get a cocktail on this.
I need a cocktail.
This poor woman just drove in, and we put her immediately on the microphone, because we're done with it.
We have sports to watch.
She has a shower to take, and we're all going to shower her in my brand new shower.
So we'll be right back after these messages.
Please hold.
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No shit.
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letter is completely indecipherable. The next one is a little less indecipherable,
but still indecipherable.
Then the third letter, in perfect printing,
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So to make a point, he sent three letters.
I thought it was from three different people.
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I can't fucking read this either.
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No fucking way.
Is that real?
Or who's dubs,
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So,
uh,
yeah,
that second one,
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Yeah.
Well done.
So that was Ukulele something.
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I can't tell.
I got to get to the third.
Go to the legendary one.
Will, Ukulele 1.
Which is not his Twitter.
I looked him up on Twitter.
But very creative.
You put a lot of fucking time and effort into that just to be a fucking dick.
His script reminds me of
Hedberg's. Yeah. When Hedberg had that. Bingo.
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Yeah.
Didn't I?
Caramelized.
It's not like eating an onion like an apple.
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It wasn't the onions as much as the radishes.
I don't think I've ever eaten a radish in my life.
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I eat them like grapes.
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Just the whole bowl.
No, I don't.
Terribly gross.
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The first time I ate a radish that I prepared was Blue Apron.
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Nothing.
I didn't personally find
anything that was
bad. I just was like,
I don't know what I said when I was 28
in a bar in New York.
I didn't find anything that was bad.
No. Hang on.
Henneken, get on that fucking open mic.
Go ahead. Talk some shit.
We're talking about deleting tweets and shit you said on Twitter.
Again, I am a...
What's the word?
It's not sacrosanct.
I love that word, but it's not right.
But I'm impenetrable to an extent.
You're fireproof.
Fireproof is good.
I stole that, by the way, from Nassim Taleb, the book Anti-Fragile.
Everyone should read it.
Wow, good plug.
Smartfuck Magazine here.
It's funny because I was going to delete.
I was going to see if there was anything bad and then delete it,
and I couldn't find anything.
So I just pressed some delete all button.
I almost didn't think it would work.
It was very impulsive.
And then all of a sudden I had no tweets, and it felt good.
But also because at the end of the day, I almost didn't think it would work. It was very impulsive. And then all of a sudden I had no tweets and it felt good. But also because like at the end of the day,
I never made a nickel off Twitter.
I don't particularly care.
I don't find it to be art per se.
It wasn't like, it wasn't like, oh my God,
I'm burning down evidence.
I just was like, ah, it's not, it's not worth it to me.
If I said something at 28, 29 that I don't remember that could be misconstrued
because I feel like I can
again, I can like morally
defend, like I go, oh, well I clearly didn't
mean anything awful because I don't know if I've ever
really meant anything awful. That being said
is it worth it
at the end of the day?
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I said that.
But you always have the fallback
of you can say, oh, I did tweet that, but I'm just a girl.
Here's the worst thing about that is that still exists somewhere.
So that at some point, if somebody wants to bring it against you, what they'll also bring against you is that she even tried to delete it.
Well, that's why.
I have it, and she deleted it.
I could also say, hey, I deleted links to t-shirts,
and I deleted a picture of me at a concert.
I deleted everything.
But they wouldn't print that.
They would just print, yeah, I deleted it,
and they would skip the butt.
You would be reduced to that sound bite you talked about earlier.
But it would also be like keeping clips.
If I had a website and if I had clips of myself doing stand-up,
it would be like keeping old clips where I go,
I didn't really like that material and it's not me anymore.
Why would I leave it on there?
The people who, let's call them judges,
the people who are judging on the internet
are treating every thought you've ever had and put out there
as if you had it tattooed on your forehead.
It's like these are just ephemeral throwaway moments
that I just went,
and that was it.
Yeah, I mean,
I gotta say,
there's stuff that I tweeted
that I didn't want out there
that was very benign,
but it was just like,
there were a handful of years,
or a few years probably,
at the beginning of Twitter
where it was just like
a live watching,
even making fun of like
celebrities on the red carpet,
which I gotta say,
like,
it's funny because we always say like the maturity of comedy is like, I used to do this, which I got to say, like, it's
funny because we always say like the maturity of comedy is like, I used to do this and I
used to, I don't do this anymore.
Like, I don't find that to be that interesting anymore.
I don't like, I used to be like, oh, that person looks stupid going to the Grammys.
I don't, I'm just like, oh, it's a real person.
Like I can't do it anymore.
So even that kind of benign bullshit, I was just like, who cares?
Yeah, I did.
I did. But if I love the stuff, I wouldn't delete it anymore. So even that kind of benign bullshit, I was just like, who cares? Yeah, I did.
I did.
But if I loved the stuff, I wouldn't delete it. Well, you know why people don't do minstrel shows anymore?
They don't sell tickets.
If minstrel shows and blackface were fucking huge ticket sellers on Broadway,
yeah, people would still be doing blackface.
They don't do it anymore, not because they're racially sensitive.
They just go, that's stupid.
Oh, really?
I think racial sensitivity has a significant piece in it.
But I don't know.
No, that's just a different audience.
If you could sell out a theater doing a minstrel show, someone would do it.
You could sell out a Trump rally.
No one would go to it.
Because Vaughnville was awful.
You go back and watch it as a...
Hey, that's a kitsch.
Is kitsch the word?
I don't know.
Do you find at all, though, that these new kind of rules or whatever they are, I do find the only silver lining to me is it makes me think 10 times over,
is this smart enough to be better than it is edgy or offensive?
Good point.
I find myself going,
yeah, no, that's not worth posting
or just finding a smarter version of it
in the
attempt to not offend but also
that tends to lead me to a more
unique place.
Beautiful point.
I have a fan base
that tries to mimic what they
think is my comedy. So I will get
email
subject, nigger cunt retard baby and then i open it now
that i got your attention and then it's just some i want to do comedy yeah well people you know
point being yeah do you have if you're going to say something that you know people will find offensive, yeah, you better back it up with substance.
You can't just subject line nigger, cunt, retard, baby.
What's the joke?
So, yeah, it does make you.
All right.
Again, I don't use the word faggot on stage.
But in the fun house, we still, just like a green room use every offensive term and we
try to find more offensive terms
because that's what we do as a
comedy culture
but when it's on stage yeah
you have to
I can defend I mean there's some
bits
just like everyone when you
said Morgan when you're a kid
you said I wouldn't say it the same way now,
but I can defend the point.
Right.
I can't defend it yet.
That's it.
If you can bitch about the language or...
Well, that's what it's about.
If it's obviously a joke, then it's obviously a joke.
And it depends on how the crowd feels about you,
but there's a reason, and I think you hit it on the head.
You can defend...
You have jokes about raving a dude on a football field
and you have jokes about finger-fucking the Duggar daughters,
but where are you most prominent right now in social media
is plastered all over memes about nationalism.
That's a long time ago.
It's random.
I don't think there's a rhyme or reason to why people will pick the target that they pick.
They just want to feel better by bringing somebody else down is all it is.
It's random.
Go ahead, Brian.
The one area that I do think that I think, I know Doug, I think, does well, I think,
and somebody like, I always hate to invoke her because it often comes across as like a fucking love fest because I think she's great.
But Laurie Kilmartin is, they will always remember their comedians first and foremost.
And when they're making a point, they make it funny.
And I don't like when comedians are just like everyone else and make a tweet like this is wrong no make
it funny yeah or i mean i think also make things there's so much of the same noise now that like
to find the origin that's what i mean by like kind of this this new place of what can i say and what
can't i say is like is actually i'm writing less but i think the stuff that's coming
out might might be a little better because i you know there's when someone yelled at me about uh
i think we were having like a james gunn discuss those ages yeah you know was yelling at me about
that like it i don't know i i don't even get into that. But like... We started...
What was the impetus
for what became my Me Too material
was Andy.
After we got done with Andy
and tracking down this pedophile
and then we got sued
and we had to fly back
and then we had to go to court
in ill-fitting suits
and
then the next night we did a gig
and I did a bit
about Andy's
whole thing. He had already talked
about it but I talked about
people
who are capitalizing
on this. It was before
Me Too even came out,
and I've just retooled that bit over and over
because Me Too is now kind of in the same family
with the Black Lives Matter.
They're all the same, and you can't.
They've co-mingled
coagulated into the same
fucking argument
on some level
I forget what my point was
I was following you
until you said you forgot what your point was
it's like a distraction
of the month
I find
validity in like every
cause that tends
to stem from the left and
sort of against things that are
bad but
I also it's weird to
be kind of
what I think is
at least like in many ways
and in many parts of my life to be like sort of a feminist
and to be a very far left to be all these things and then also go yeah i think also this and
recognize bullshit right but then also then then people scream at me and i'm like no no i'm saying
that like why are you screaming at the person who disagrees with you the least like why are you
taking that little sliver where we disagree
and deciding that I'm the enemy?
Because you have the biggest voice.
That's why.
If you call bullshit,
I call bullshit,
oh, yeah, he did the man show,
which was derogatory to women,
and he's got a whole fucking career of being...
If you say it,
oh, now it has weight,
but everyone's fucking
afraid to say shit because
yeah, it's fucking
everyone's career when it is
bullshit. And bullshit
draws... Go ahead.
I was going to say that in terms of
fucking everyone's career, I mean,
I don't know, I mean,
A, it's quite clear that Louis C.K.,
if he wanted to, could be touring theaters right now.
I said that on stage.
I know you did.
It happened.
Yeah.
I go, yeah.
Yeah.
His career is over.
Yeah.
Unless he decided to do stand up and it played across the street and you wouldn't be here because you'd be at Louis C.K.'s show.
T.J. Miller has a very active touring.
His calendar is filled for the rest of the year.
No one gives a fuck.
Well, the problem is people, it's, we're listening.
I mean, you can't even have now the conversation about, you can't have the who did what.
There is no sort of like nuance, but I also understand where that comes from
because people are so upset
because this is something
that's been sort of ingrained in society for so long.
I mean, Meryl Mark, do you know Meryl Marko?
I think she's a genius.
She's a deaf lady?
No, she was like the original.
She's a deaf lady, I'm thinking of.
She was like the original.
Marlee Maitland.
She was the original letterman.
She came up...
She invented the top ten list.
She's brilliant.
And she wrote a book recently
that just came out as an audio book.
I'm going to plug it,
which is...
It's just the story of women
from the beginning of women till now.
Like Eve?
I think it's like the beginning
of people who had homes, maybe. I don't know i think it's like the beginning of like people who had homes maybe i don't know
but uh but it's it's you know she's been telling me a lot of stuff where you just go yeah people
are rightfully mad like that being said we we are in such a horrific place right now that picking
your battles has never been more important and correct i don't you know i'm still upset there
are like kids in cages and in shelters in this state.
That was a couple weeks ago.
And no one's talking about it.
It's like, you guys, like, that was so much worse than Sarah saying anything on Howard's.
That was 17 distracting news stories away.
It really kills me because I feel like I try to be a good person
and maybe I just get so upset
when someone comes at me and tells
me that what I'm saying is
not something a good person would say.
I don't care about anything else
but being mischaracterized as a
person who's evil
or unkind or anything like that.
That's what upsets me. Let me ask you a question.
Why do you read replies to your tweets?
That's my problem.
That's my problem.
And that is why I could never, ever, I think,
ever be any more known than I am now,
which is like 10 people consistently telling me to go away.
But like, I don't, I don't think I could handle,
I don't think I could handle any kind of even like the attention on roseanne the show and the attention on things around me
i realized how anxious that stuff made me and i was like oh i will never try to
get more attention in that way if that makes sense sense. It actually is kind of a good lesson
because I can't handle it.
I'm under tables.
I can't.
I have a sincere question too.
Okay, so as far as your career
and promoting yourself,
which is really what Twitter is about
to anybody that has to do...
You know that your career
is more writing than stand-up.
Yeah.
Just making sure you know that.
That's why I'm going to ask.
So like being beneficial,
because I understand it's beneficial to certain people's careers,
but as far as being beneficial to your career,
is there a percentage you'd say,
besides just making you miserable and benefiting your career?
Not really at all.
Yeah, you should bail on it.
No, no, no, but it's not because I don't think, whatever,
it's not because people hate me.
It's just that I started on Twitter.
It was just a dump for stupid jokes.
I mean, I was writing monologue jokes at the time,
so it was a lot of stuff that I wasn't getting on shows.
I have a follow-up question to you.
Silly, silly, silly stuff.
But I don't tour for a living,
so it's not like having a bunch of Twitter followers
is going to help me
get more money for my script.
Do you know what I mean? It just doesn't work in that way.
In the current climate, it could actually
lose you the job because,
oh, that's that girl that said this.
Who's vocal about something.
It's kind of like, why am I there to see
what's happening? You guys keep talking.
Okay, my follow-up question would be...
I'm calling Roseanne to see if she answers.
No.
Once you get...
What?
I'm calling Roseanne to see if she answers.
Oh, sorry.
Once you get a certain amount of people who are following you on Twitter,
as insignificant as that really may be in real life,
do you feel like you kind of have an obligation to say something positive
when there's things going on?
Because you do have, you know, like you reach a lot of people.
Is that one of the things that would hold you there maybe?
I'm trying to think about, because if it's not beneficial to your career and it's only making you miserable, you should bail out on it.
I should soon.
I'm getting there.
But I also like, you know, I do my dumb little podcast and that stuff.
Hi, Roseanne.
This is Doug Stanhope.
I love you.
I was trying to get
you on a podcast on speakerphone
for a minute, but we were just talking
about how much we love you. Bye.
That'll go in, like, variety
as a... Roseanne Ryder
loves Roseanne.
No, I said it, not you.
No, you know, it's
all so fucked. I'm so, like, it's been a weird year. You should move. Sound bite. No, you know, it's all so fucked.
I'm so, like, it's been a weird year.
You should move to Bisbee.
Oh, wait, you have a place here.
You just don't show up.
You wait on purpose until I miss you.
Wherever she walks her dog, that's her home.
I miss you so much that I go, if you come back, I won't make fun of you.
It's funny.
You know, Pete, there are people who, there are people like, what do you do there?
You gotta die,
die,
you gotta drink in.
He's the mayor of Bisbee,
I heard.
He can do anything.
It's funny what people think
is here
and then I kind of explain like,
I don't know,
if you like the vibe,
like you can be,
it's,
I don't,
I don't,
I do one,
I do smoke pot.
That's my one drug.
I smoke a little pot.
People really think I'm like, oh, you do mushrooms and you get ecstasy.
And I'm like, no, I wrote 20 pages.
Is your asshole okay?
I like to talk to people at the coffee place.
We're all like 90, and I bought an old brooch, and it was lovely.
Like, what do you want me to say?
I got some noodles.
I don't go other places in Bisbee, but I describe this, the Funhouse, as a... Imagine if you like to go to a bar,
but you don't want to go to a real bar,
so you can go to a bar where whoever sucks,
everybody will collectively know it
and push them out immediately.
That's like a fantasy bar that doesn't exist
is where we hang out in Bisbee.
All right, we're We gotta wrap this up.
Don't rape women.
Don't pretend that you got raped
if you didn't.
Don't try to jump on bandwagons.
It doesn't matter
because we're comics
and we're gonna keep talking about the shit we talk about.
Fuck you.
Let me ask you a question.
Fuck you! And me ask you a question. Fuck you!
And be a nice
person. Yeah, be a good person.
Can we go back to the plot? If I can do it, you can.
Can we go back to the plot of Fart Nazi?
No, we're going to
take her into a shower and shower her.
I get a new shower.
Us too. It's a new hashtag
he's working on.
I love you, Morgan.
Welcome home.
I feel your love, and I'm going to return it soon.
That's unsexual, and I'm going to take it as that.
Everyone heard it.
You heard it, people.
You heard it here first.
She came on to me.
Okay, let's get in the shower
everyone get in the shower we'll see you next week
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