The Doug Stanhope Podcast - Pt. 09 - 10 Minute Podcast in Daytona Beach, Florida
Episode Date: March 29, 2016Pre Order Doug's book "Digging Up Mother: A Memoir" on Amazon and Barnes & Noble Doug, Andy Andrist, Chad Shank and Chaille review go over highlights of the Comedy Killers show in Daytona Beach, Flor...ida.  Doug is in Daytona Beach, Florida during Spring Break 2016. Doug decided to keep drinking and do 10 minute podcasts throughout the day.  Recorded March 26, 2016 in Daytona Beach, FL with Doug Stanhope (@dougstanhope), Chad Shank (@hdfatty), Brian J. Weiner, Andy Andrist (@andyandrist), Junior Stopka (@JuniorStopka), and Ggreg Chaille (@gregchaille). Produced and Edited by Ggreg Chaille.  LINKS: Pre Order Doug's book "Diggin Up Mother: A Love Story" on Amazon and Barnes & NobleAll Stanhope Merch available at DougStanhope.comSupport the show: http://www.Patreon.com/stanhopepodcast
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Who needs the jacket coat? That's you?
I got it.
What do you need?
I'm good.
You're good?
He's sober.
Wiener, the wiener is six months sober.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the wiener brought Hennigan to Burning Man.
Hennigan, who doesn't do any drugs at all.
Oh, no, I don't.
Oh, I would never.
I smoked. I used to smoke hash. I used to do,, I don't, I would never. I smoked,
I used to smoke hash.
I used to do,
what do they call it,
hot knives?
He did hot knives
when he was a teacher
in China.
A hot hit.
So now he's
fucking 50 years old.
He's going to Burning Man.
He wants to go back.
He was drinking
a lot of Icelandic vodka.
I think it was
Icelandic vodka.
He was passing out.
He was like,
this is artisanal vodka
and he was handing it out to people. That's how you got him to drink it? Yeah. You think it was Icelandic vodka. He was passing it. I was like, this is artisanal vodka.
And he was handing it out to people.
That's how you got him to drink it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said it was special?
No, he brought it.
He knew it was special.
He's a vodka connoisseur.
And he's like, oh, this is very special.
When he drinks, he drinks.
Oh, yeah.
He cracked his head the first day he was out there.
He shot and roused it?
I guess he was getting something from his car, and he hit his head on the car, so out there. He Sean Rousted? I guess he was getting
something from his car and he hit his head on the car
so he had a band-aid doll.
I was out
when I first got there. I think I was
working at the DMV at Burning Man and I got there
and I heard he was there and he was like, got this big
band-aid. I'm like, what the hell happened to you? And he's like,
yeah, I cracked my head.
He's got the shift pod and he set it all up.
The tent.
First of all, you're speaking at a rate that you go,
ooh, 10-minute podcast.
I've got to get a lot of shit in at a speedy rate.
No, you're fine.
I'll slow it down. You did that earlier when we announced the 10-minute podcast.
I was like, are we all going to have to talk real fast during this?
And then Andy got on the mic.
Well, we just did acid.
Chad Wiener and I did acid.
It's a microdose.
Small amount.
Microdose.
Just now?
Medicinal.
Microdose, yeah.
It's microdose.
Medicinal acid.
Equivalent of one-tenth of a hit.
Wiener's been doing acid.
He's been sober for six months now.
He's been doing acid every day for mental health.
Microdose.
Like for the last five days.
I'm totally familiar with it, yeah.
Yeah, it's big in Silicon Valley and stuff like that.
There's a lot of things to take over there.
I've read about it. It makes sense to me.
Based on my experiences with acid.
The jury's out on that.
Because there are
the study that I listened to.
One guy flew out a window.
He thought he could die.
It was the brown acid, of course.
Don't eat the brown acid.
It is that
after a certain number of doses...
How many have you done?
This is five days.
Five days?
Yeah, so after more than five days,
they did it for two weeks, I think.
And then there was a point of diminishing returns,
which is interesting because this was one person.
Right.
But it was their experience,
which I thought was very interesting.
And I love the idea of trying things out like that.
Right.
On a level that's not going to...
I'm journaling every day about my experience.
I'm doing this kind of methodically instead of just kind of like,
ooh, let's do drugs.
I actually want to see what it does for me.
We're old people.
Yeah, I don't know if you ever heard...
You have to have a write-off.
Yeah, no, it's a scientific experiment.
I'll do a one-man show.
You know what nootropics are?
Nootropics are this
class of chemicals that
are designed to increase your brain plasticity.
As we're getting older, we get a little
duller than we used to be.
I'm used to being pretty sharp, so being dull
is a scary thing for me.
I'm trying to do anything that I can do.
Being dull is what I strive for. I went'm trying to do anything that I can do. Being dull is what I strive
for. I went the opposite way. I want to feel
everything, man. I want to be an open sore.
We're still drinking, though.
And we saw last night's show.
I want to be an open sore.
All the pain, all of it.
It's fucking glorious. It changed.
It changed my whole life, that whole perspective.
It's messy.
I've been following you on Facebook.
I've seen some of the things you've been going through and stuff like that.
And as much as I don't think that that's for me
to put everything out there,
that, yeah, you doing that is...
I'm a pretty open book.
Yeah, you definitely are.
Good, bad, I don't care.
I try to be open about it.
You're very open about that it's bad, too.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
When it was dark, like at Christmas time,
it got real dark.
I broke up with the girl I was seeing for a year,
and I was in a really funky place, and I was like, wow.
And there's this concept called the dark night of the soul.
I don't know if any of you guys have ever heard of it.
It's this time in your mid-40s or mid-life
that basically you feel disconnected from the source, whatever that is.
Well, when we hit 40, we'll tell you if we find out about that.
Yeah, well, I know you guys are younger, so I didn't think you would hit it yet. Sure, sure, sure. So I was trying to tell you when you get disconnected from the source, whatever that is. Well, when we hit 40, we'll tell you if we find out about that. Yeah, well, I know you guys are younger,
so I didn't think you would hit it yet.
Sure, sure, sure.
So I was trying to tell you when you get there.
So yeah, the Dark Knight of Sol,
and basically you feel disconnected.
And when you come out of that darkness,
it's a whole different place, man.
It's like a rebirth, and it feels pretty decent.
I think Chad's afraid of coming out of his darkness.
You cling to it.
I've come out of my darkness a couple of times before,
but like what Chaley talked about,
the point of diminishing returns when you're doing stuff,
I call that just seeing through the next level of bullshit.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's all fucking the same thing.
But it is all bullshit, right?
But it's accepting that and saying,
what is my role?
What can I do for that?
What responsibility can I take for myself in that?
No, I think, hey, I'm just going to go with negative and happy nihilism.
Yeah, it all stinks, so let's just get drunk.
Wow.
Let's not steamroll that.
Happy nihilism?
Happy nihilism.
I was trying to think today how
to describe you to someone.
That's a fair one.
Happy nihilism fucking nails it, dude.
Happy nihilism is the name of our cult, should be.
Because that's...
The name of the ranch.
Without having the words for it, that's what I'm trying to do.
The old 70s smiley face,
orange smiley face
with a gun to its head.
Yeah, that's...
By the way, that's yellow, not orange.
I'm just spitballing.
No, it's good.
It's an open table.
I'm good with happy nihilism.
No, I like it.
I mean, we don't have any idea of any meaning.
Any meaning we apply to ourselves is just kind of like a subjective...
Well, there's not.
I had already given up on everything, and then I got hooked up with these guys,
and now this is fun, but it's all still stupid.
Don't blame us.
No, no, it's something to do, though.
I think the key is just to have...
But people love you for doing it.
And I also see where that takes a toll on you,
where you can't accept that people love you.
Manageable, manageable.
Well, I mean, I have a problem with it, too.
You do, too.
Yeah, I was going to say. Oh, you changed my life when youable. Well, I mean, I have a problem with it, too. You do, too. I was going to say.
Oh, you change my life when you go,
what, I was drunk and yelling at people.
Just trying to get to the bar.
Was it the kick-fucking-a-midget joke?
Yeah.
What turned you around?
I think that's just being an asshole.
I can't possibly imagine anybody else
caring what I have to say,
because I don't give a fuck
what anybody else has to say.
I think most people are...
I think most people are lemmings.
Like, honestly. Like, they're looking
for somebody to tell them what to do
and looking for somebody to save them
and they don't want to take personal responsibility
for their lives.
Absolutely. To a
fault where...
Sorry. Someone else talk.
I would say I feel like
it should be the opposite. I take absolute
responsibility for everything I can.
Because
I'm the only thing I know that exists.
If I'm a solopsist, I
believe that maybe you guys are figments of my imagination
that I created for some type of
learning exercise.
I would have dropped the mic at solopsis.
Yeah.
What's a solopsis?
Solopsism is the idea that you're the only thing that exists.
Solopsism.
Solopsism.
Oh, I know.
I just saw that fucking word today for the first time.
Isn't it weird how synchronicity works like that?
I actually created these.
Are you a witch?
I am a witch.
That's what I refer to as ethnocentrism,
is where you just only view things from your own viewpoint.
That's different, though. Well, ethnocentrism is
based on your own cultural identity, so
it's very close, but solopsism is like
you guys don't even exist, right?
I've created you for some purpose
that I need to learn from you.
That sounds familiar.
Bingo!
Bingo's bad trip
is that we are all fake,
and she has created us, and that's her...
She's a solopsist.
Well, solopsist, we can't necessarily disprove that, right?
That's what her and I have had those conversations.
I beat her once.
I beat her once.
I go, really?
If you invented all of us, this is the me you would invent?
That's pretty weak.
She creates you as the heaven vision of you.
The best possible specimen.
Really?
Smoking and drinking.
Sometimes I think.
You would base it on your own self-worth.
What do I deserve to get anyway?
I'm nobody special.
Why do I get somebody special?
We're all special, right?
Think about it.
No, nobody is.
No, I disagree with you.
I think that we're all special, right?
We're not divine.
We're not like some gods,
but we're all special, right?
You're the most significant thing
in the universe to yourself, aren't you?
And if you're not, that's weird.
See, I'm not just suicidal.
I think everybody else should be suicidal,
and they just haven't figured it out yet.
Okay, so I had a good acid trip one time, right,
and it stopped me from doing acid for 10 years.
While you're ahead, kids.
Now you're doing it every day.
Go ahead.
Different, because I learned,
and I learned how to ride the dragon better.
You gain experience.
But what I would say is this,
is that I thought that the whole purpose of life
was to kind of get back to this comfort of the womb,
to get back to this connection to the everything.
Claustrophobia.
Yeah, in a way.
And so I never had thought about suicide my entire life,
but in that moment I did,
and it scared the shit out of me, right?
Because I was like, I love myself.
I've created this character of Wiener, and I'm associated with my ego and my id
like I have attachments to this thing and I was like I'm gonna throw it away because like it's
all just this kind of mental masturbation of some deity like so we're here we're masturbating keep
masturbating man like keep masturbating like right now like like we all are I'm sorry
I kind of think that's the whole purpose of the universe
oh I'm sorry I was masturbating Chad
I was wondering why the table was shaking
I was wondering why the table was shaking
go to the left
everyone back up and go to the left
switch
it's because we're both using our left hand
so guys this is the Dutch rudder
you grab your own dick and then I grab your wrist,
and I move your wrist around.
So it's the Dutch rudder.
The Dutch rudder.
The Dutch rudder.
And if it's females, it's called the Amsterdam assist.
DJ name, wasn't it?
In college, yeah.
In college.
The Dutch rudder.
Had I known you were going to do this,
I would have got boom stands for the first time.
Or maybe some covers.
My apologies.
Free up a hand. Hey, let's get
Andy Jr. and
Stopka over here to hold our mics.
Hold my mic. We're jerking each other up.
Let's get Rousey here. I want to do the cheese grater.
Oh, God.
It's a callback to the last one.
It's good for wart removal, right?
Wart removal.
Next.
Yeah, you missed a podcast.
You'll see Shawnee tonight.
Oh, geez.
We still have two hours, but I think we might be up.
I'm feeling all right.
No.
Right on.
And we have Adderall to kick that micro-dot in.
I might need to talk to you about the Adderall.
Maybe a half.
I'm just going to save it for tomorrow.
That's fine, too.
Because tomorrow, that's when we can actually cut loose.
That's right.
Chad's staying an extra day.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Excellent.
What's the time?
We have time, right?
We're at 11 minutes now.
Fuck it.
I'll cut a minute off.
We'll do a 20-minute, 10-minute podcast.
That's right.
No one's going to complain.
It's supersized.
Question.
Tracy, we have a town hall meeting here.
I have a question.
Why micro doses of acid?
Why not mushrooms?
Actually,
psilocybin is also one of the things that you can do
this with. Some people try it with ecstasy
or MDMA as well, but the results
from MDMA seem to have been a lot
poorer.
The diminishing returns seem to hit really fast.
Acid?
I don't know.
MDMA has changed and fluctuated in quality since the first time I did it in 1989 88 and it was the best oh my god
cleanest experience so different 95 I remember doing we got bingo on the phone
you can plug her in we have to call her if we're Hang on, we got Bingo on the phone. You want to plug her in? You going to plug her in? No, we can't.
We have to call her if we want to do it.
Yeah, no.
Put her on speaker.
I'll put her on speaker.
Hey, Bingo, you're on speakerphone with Wiener, Chad Shank, and Greg Chaley.
Oh, excellent.
Hey, Bingo.
Hey, Bingo.
Hi, guys.
Hi, guys.
We just did a microdose of acid.
Wiener is doing a...
Are you serious? Yeah a microdose of acid. Weiner is doing a... Are you serious?
Yeah, microdose.
It's already been explained, but it's a very small dose
that for mental illness purposes, Weiner has been doing every day.
And Chad agrees that it's good for mental illness purposes.
Well, let's give me some.
We're going to guinea pig Chad first and see where it goes,
and then we'll take care of you.
You have responded differently to hallucinogens than other people.
You don't have psychosis, right?
Oh, yeah, I do.
Now we're in trouble.
I have good control over it.
I'm out of lock trouble. Let's try some Alamo. I have good control over it. I'm Alamaca.
Let's go.
I just had a dumb computer question, so I'll call you back later.
It's not been interesting.
All right.
Well, say hello and all the thank yous you've been telling me to tell.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The staff was even getting frustrated with me during mail time,
because they have to go through all your mail before you get it.
And I swear to God, hundreds of letters came.
It's so great. I shit on my fan base because I don't know how to take thank yous.
But, yeah, we thank you a lot, everyone.
And they're still going to send shit.
And you're going to be a legend there.
She should be a legend.
She's awesome.
Well, that's fantastic.
Yes, thank you so much to everybody who sent stuff.
And I have, like, a bag full of cigarettes, too.
Like, a whole bag.
They gave you cigarettes to go?
Well, they were mine.
People sent them to me, and I can't give them out.
You can't give anything to another patient.
So I just
brought all my smokes home, but I've got
much worth of cigarettes here.
We'll find out if we
can send just
random smokes to people at
Valley Hospital in Phoenix.
Just go, hey,
this is just for anyone who needs smokes, and we'll find Valley Hospital in Phoenix. Just go, hey, just... Yeah, just, hey,
this is just for anyone who
needs smokes. And we'll find out
if we can do that. And if we can't,
we'll fucking crush them and sue them into
oblivion.
Okay, that sounds good.
Okay, go on with your
thing then.
Alright, I love you, bye.
I love you too, bye.
Yeah, no, she not only got her outfit.
When we visited her, she was in prison scrubs with no shoes.
And her prison scrubs six inches past the end of her toes.
So she was mopping the floor, walking in.
And just so adorable.
And I go, keep those.
Because we were going to fly her directly from her mental hospital here.
But when they cut her loose immediately after 10 days, seeing no doctor.
And starting her on new meds.
Yeah.
That's rough.
They just sent her home.
She couldn't have dealt with figuring out how to get a flight.
She went to the mental hospital with reusable Safeway bags.
She had just a bunch of shit that she couldn't have...
No, none of this you can have.
I'm confused.
You said she basically, and the whole time she was there,
she had a meet and greet with a doctor.
Never really had a diagnosis.
Then the second day, a longer meet and greet
where they go, no, the real one's going to happen tomorrow.
And they changed her meds or they switched up?
Changed her meds before she even got there.
In Bisbee at the emergency room?
Yeah.
How do they know what her meds should be?
They don't.
That's a fucking nurse practitioner.
That's what I'm trying to establish here.
It's like she never got to see a doctor,
and yet they were fucking with her meds from the start.
Well, maybe micro doses of acid.
Maybe.
When we've done acid for fun or mushrooms for fun,
oh, she can spin out horribly.
Yeah, I would be careful.
One of the counterindications is psychosis.
It can be psychosis.
It can be psychosis, like psychotic breaks from reality.
Yeah. So it's different from just having deep depression
and other things. Oops.
Yeah. I was going to say,
you may have brought that up before you
touched Chad's tongue with
the microphone. No, I have
good control over my psychosis.
He's actually thrived on hallucinogens when we've done hallucinogens.
Oh, we did a podcast while you were gone.
Mushrooms.
The Mushroom Podcast.
I still get emails about that one.
Good.
He's a good guy.
Yeah.
You know, they say psilocybin can cure a lot of things.
They actually say it's the closest thing to a religious experience. People have
the same people who do the talking tongues
and all those things. Don't sully it with that kind of
description.
What I think it is is it activates certain parts of your
brain that those things activate as well.
It's an addiction, like religion
is, because it activates this feel-good part
of your brain. That's interesting. Generally,
the later in life I've
done it, all I
focus on is how hideous
my body's falling apart.
Which is probably something I should focus
on.
It's never too late.
You can turn it around.
My gurgling lungs, my fucking
wayfish chicken legs.
He says as he draws from the cigarette.
Yeah.
We all
have to fit a bill.
I smoke a hookah every day, like five bowls of hookah.
What's a hookah? Shisha?
Syrupy tobacco.
Is it a tobacco product?
It is tobacco.
It was like three times
with the wieners.
I still to this day didn't remember
your first name.
And I'm like, because I just introduced you as the Wieners because it was funny.
But once you split up with your wife, then it was just you're a Wiener.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I don't give a shit.
I go, I still don't remember his first name because I spent so long, so many years calling them the Wieners.
It's funny.
Hey, these are the Wieners
and that's Chad Shank.
Brian and I are going to start our own podcast
called Shank and Wiener.
Shank and Wiener.
We know my actual initials are BJ Wiener.
So that's really true.
BJ Wiener.
And Greg can verify that.
No wonder you know how to fight.
I was a boy named Sue. It's a boy named can verify that. No wonder you know how to fight. I was a boy named Sue.
It's a boy named Sue, motherfucker.
That's why I travel everywhere with knives.
I'm ready to go.
I was a seaman in the Navy, right?
It's B.J. Wiener.
Before that, he worked at the Cummingo down in the corner.
It was the Cumminswallow, but whatever. A come and go down in the corner. It was the come and swallow, but whatever.
Guy has to make some living somehow.
All right.
That's more than 20 minutes.
We're going to set this down.
We'll have another 10-minute podcast that might last who knows how long,
but we'll set this down for now.
All right.
Keep tuning in.
We're here for another 36 hours or some shit.
Chad Shank changed his flight.
He's like, fuck this.
I'm not leaving in the morning.
I'll do the duration.
I'm already here.
I smoked on the beach.
He's a diplomat, and he's a long timer.