The Economics of Everyday Things - 56. Snake Venom

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Why does treating a venomous snake bite cost as much as a house? Zachary Crockett slithers over to North Carolina to find out. SOURCES:Steve Anderson, emergency medicine business unit leader at BTG P...harmaceuticals.Nick Brandehoff, professor of emergency medicine at the University of Colorado and executive director of the Asclepius Snakebite Foundation.Sean Bush, emergency physician and president of the North American Society of Toxinology.Nitin Deshpande, business consultant with Premium Serums & Vaccines.Jack Facente, owner-operator of AGRITOXINS Venom Production Laboratory. RESOURCES:"This New Antivenom Defangs the Toxins of Cobras, Black Mambas and More," by Cassandra Willyard (Scientific American, 2024)."Perspectives on Snakebite Envenoming Care Needs Across Different Sociocultural Contexts and Health Systems: A Comparative Qualitative Analysis Among U.S. and Brazilian Health Providers," by Eleanor Strand, Felipe Murta, Anna Tupetz, Charles J. Gerardo, et al. (Toxicon: X, 2023)."Access to Antivenoms in the Developing World: A Multidisciplinary Analysis," by Julien Potet, David Beran, David J. Williams, et al. (Toxicon: X, 2021)."The Lab Saving the World From Snake Bites," by Myles Karp (Smithsonian Magazine, 2020)."Why Competition Hasn't Brought Down The High Price Of Snakebite Treatment," by Carmen Heredia Rodriguez (NPR, 2019)."Summer Bummer: A Young Camper’s $142,938 Snakebite," by Carmen Heredia Rodriguez (KFF Health News, 2019)."The Amazing Science Behind Fatal Snake Bites," (BBC News, 2015)."Southern Californians See a Rise in Venomous Snakes," by Rebecca Fairley Raney (The New York Times, 2006).Venom Week. EXTRAS:Venom Hunters, TV series (2016).

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Back in 2006, Sean Bush had one of the most terrifying experiences of his life. It involved his son Jude, who was two years old and a Southern Pacific rattlesnake. We lived in the snakiest plateau in all of Southern California because I liked it there. I like to live where the snakes live, right? My son was in the backyard, and he saw a little juvenile, little baby rattlesnake coiled up next to the water sprinkler. And he tried to pick it up and put it in a cage for me. It bit him between his thumb and index finger. Bush is an emergency physician who
Starting point is 00:00:41 specializes in treating venomous snake bites. He'd seen this situation play out many times before. I'd seen a lot of really sick people after rattlesnake bites. People coming out of the helicopter just with total body twitching and just you know this bizarre almost alien-like thing that's just very scary. Bleeding and not breathing and bruising, their whole body's swelling. Fortunately for Jude, his dad knew exactly what to do,
Starting point is 00:01:12 and he ended up being okay. I told my wife at the time, I said, call 911. I'll meet him on the helipad. And I had anti-venom ready to go. I had it in my hand. Venomous snakes bite millions of people every year, I had anti-venom ready to go. I had it in my hand. Venomous snakes bite millions of people every year, causing tens of thousands of deaths and many more amputations.
Starting point is 00:01:32 In the U.S., venomous snakes are fairly rare. When they happen, there's only one thing that can disable the toxins. A snake anti-ivenom. But antivenom can be hard to find and extraordinarily expensive. In the United States, it's not uncommon for a snake by treatment with hospitalization and antivenom to get up into the $100,000, $200,000 range easily. For the Freakonomics Radio Network, this is the economics of everyday things. I'm Zachary Krocken. Today, snake venom.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Venomous snake bites may be rare in the United States, but there's a passionate community that studies them. Doctors, scientists, herpetologists, and enthusiasts. In early June, many members of that community met up for the 9th annual Venom Week at the Durham Convention Center in North Carolina. We took a trip out there to join them. I think that's a good intro, a song about rouse and things. Hey, good morning, y'all, and welcome to Venom Week.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! This year's event featured talks on topics like rattlesnake relocation training, the economics of snakebite care in Nepal,
Starting point is 00:02:59 and really nerdy stuff, like snakebite-induced thrombotic microangiopathy in the Brazilian Amazon. Out in the hallway, pharmaceutical companies and nonprofits from all over the world set up booths. There were even a few snakes on site. I rescued this snake out of someone's yard. If I remember correctly, this is the snake that bit my neighbor and that we found.
Starting point is 00:03:24 She's very chill. She's a happy copperhead. That's Sean Bush, the emergency doctor. He's the president of the North American Society of Toxinology, which organizes Venom Week. We sat down with him after he delivered his opening remarks. Here, we talk a lot about snake bite, but we also talk about spider bite, scorpion stings,
Starting point is 00:03:49 mass and denimations by bees and wasps. Bush was raised in central Texas and first got interested in snakes after being given one as a child. By the age of 10, he was wrangling prairie king snakes, coachwhips, and cotton mouths into a special snake bag, a pillowcase embroidered by his grandmother. Today, he's one of the country's foremost experts in snake venom. He says snakes really don't want to bite you.
Starting point is 00:04:18 They use their venom to digest food, and deploying it comes at a cost. It's biologically expensive for a snake to bite a human. They got to make that venom. And that's metabolic expensive, especially to a cold-blooded animal like a snake. The last thing it wants to do is strike at you and expend venom that it could be using to eat. Worldwide, there are more than 3,000 species of snakes. Around 600 of them are venomous,
Starting point is 00:04:49 and only 200 are venomous enough to kill a human. Of those 200, roughly 20 are located in the US, and almost all of those 20 fall into two camps. There are coral snakes, which typically have black, yellow, and red stripes, and there are pit vipers, which include rattlesnakes, copperheads, and cottonmouths. Every snake breed's venom is a little different. Some contain neurotoxins that can paralyze you and prevent you from breathing. Others affect the blood, causing clots or hemorrhaging. Pit viper venom is necrotic.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It breaks down your flesh like food in a stomach. You start to digest from the inside out. There's a lot of proteolytic enzymes, a lot of things that denature proteins that help the snake to digest food as it swallows it whole. If a bite isn't treated within a few days, or in some cases, hours, it could result in amputation, kidney failure, or even death. Now, there's a lot of bad advice out there
Starting point is 00:05:55 on what to do if you get bit. Some people recommend strapping a tourniquet around the bitten area. Others sell kits that claim to remove the venom with a little plunger device. Then there's the old Boy Scouts method of taking a swig of whiskey, cutting an X over the fang marks, and sucking the venom out with your mouth. These methods do not work and can even be harmful. The only effective thing you can do is go to a hospital and get an antivenom, a drug
Starting point is 00:06:26 derived from antibodies that bind to the venom and prevent further harm. There are different antivenoms for different snakes, and making one of them is a long and complicated process. My name is Jack Ficenti, and I'm the owner operator of Agritoxins Venom Production Laboratory in St. Cloud, Florida. In order to make antivenoms, manufacturers need snake venom itself. Agritoxins is one of only a few businesses in the US that extracts snake venom. It specializes in coral snake venom, which it sells to the pharmaceutical giant, Pfizer. I think I could probably produce more coral snake venom than anybody.
Starting point is 00:07:08 At his lab in St. Cloud, Florida, Facente has around 60 coral snakes. Getting them was not easy. They're subterranean, they live underground, they're hard to catch. You have to happen upon them. So for two years I drove from St. Cloud to Okeechobee, north to Lake City and both sides from Tampa to Jacksonville every time somebody found a coral snake. I would go get it. Getting venom out of them is even tougher. Snakes can only be milked every two to three weeks and they can be pretty fickle.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You don't pin a coral snake because they spin. So you just gently take them out and reach down and grab them behind the head. Some of them come out and they're in a bad way. You run them into a clear tube, and then you back them out of the tube into your hands very carefully. Vicente presses each snake's fangs against a non-absorbent fabric stretched out over the top of a test tube. The process yields a few drops of liquid venom. That liquid is then purified and freeze dried into a powder.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Even the smaller snakes can give three to four milligrams. The bigger snakes that I've got can give 18 to 20 milligrams in one bite. It just barely covers the bottom of a 15-milliliter test tube. A six-foot eastern diamondback can give as much venom in one bite as it would take about 150 coral snakes to give. Some big eastern diamondbacks give seven, eight hundred milligrams a bite. Producing a single gram of powder might require milking 125 snakes.
Starting point is 00:08:48 But antivenom manufacturers pay top dollar for the effort. It can go anywhere from $300 a gram to $6,000 a gram, depending on the snake that you're collecting it from. Your bigger rattlesnakes and bigger vipers are down in the hundreds of dollars. A coral snake is a $6,000 snake. Generally speaking, if the snake's hard to get and hard to keep alive and gives a very small yield, that's going to cost more money. Jared Ranere Ficente says the US market for anti-venom is so small that most manufacturers only buy a few hundred milligrams at a time.
Starting point is 00:09:27 You hear the phrase, venom liquid gold. And if you could sell every bit that you could produce, you probably could make a lot of money. But if you look at the venom producers that do this full-time, they're not driving Ferraris. The only way you're going to make money with venoms is if you tie in one of the bigger contracts, one of the two or three big antivenom companies that will buy volume from you. There are only a few manufacturers of antivenom in the US. Pfizer is the sole producer of North American Coral Snake antivenom. For rattlesnakes, there are two products on the market, Anivip and Crofab.
Starting point is 00:10:05 The latter is made by a company called BTG International, which is owned by CERB Pharmaceuticals. I'm Steve Anderson. I'm the Emergency Medicine Business Unit Lead for CERB Pharmaceuticals. CERB buys pit viper venom from a private lab in Florida. But it also has more than a thousand snakes in its own facility in Salt Lake City. We have four different species of snakes. They're indigenous to the United States. The Western Diamondback, the Eastern Diamondback, the Cottonmouth, and the Mojave Rattlesnake. They all have different venom profiles that we try and cover.
Starting point is 00:10:45 The company takes all that snake venom and sends it to a lab in Wales to get purified. Then it goes to Australia, where it's injected into sheep. Those sheep develop antibodies, blood proteins that bind to and neutralize the toxins in snake venom. After around 18 months, the blood is drawn from the sheep. The antibodies are harvested from the blood and then shipped back to whales for another round of purification before being packaged as anti-venom.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And then once we have enough antibodies from the sheep, that's prepared and then comes back to the United States for distribution. Trofab is often distributed to big medical wholesalers like McKesson, who sell it to hospitals all over the country. And all that work it took to produce the antivenom is reflected in the price. The wholesale price for a vial of snake antivenom is around $3,800. That's partly the cost of production, milking the snakes, infecting the sheep, harvesting
Starting point is 00:11:47 the antibodies, and partly the cost of R&D. There's not really a super cost-effective way right now to develop antivenom. I mean, people don't realize, you know, to do one trial, it can cost a company, depending on the size of the trial, anywhere between $5 to $10 million. That high price means that, for many hospitals, anti-venom is a challenging cost-benefit decision. Sean Bush used to work at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California. There were so many snake bites there that the cable channel Animal Planet made a reality
Starting point is 00:12:21 show about it called Venom ER. Bush says that even the decision makers at a Venom hotbed had trouble justifying the anti-venom stock. They were like, hey, Dr. Bush, it sure is expensive to stock 200 vials of CroFab. That's really expensive. Do we really need all that CroFab? We reached out to Loma Linda,
Starting point is 00:12:41 and they said they always have a reliable stock of anti-venom on hand, regardless of the cost. But the same can't be said for every hospital. Smaller hospitals can barely afford to stock enough to treat one patient, and urgent care can't afford to stock antivenom. The costs are even harder to swallow for patients. Hospitals might charge $15,000 or more per vial, and a severe bite might require 15 of these vials. Hospital bills for snake antivenom often make headlines for being so outrageously high.
Starting point is 00:13:21 In 2018, a family in Illinois was billed $68,000 for four vials of anti-venom after their nine-year-old daughter was bit by a pit viper at a summer camp. That didn't include the $58,000 helicopter ride to get to the hospital. A South Carolina teenager who was bit by a copperhead a few years ago received a $200,000 bill for 12 vials. Those charges are many times the wholesale price. I think to be blunt, it's bloated costs, right? Nick Brandyhoff is an emergency physician and toxicologist based in Colorado. We met him in the hallway at the conference. I think that most physicians don't realize the cost or
Starting point is 00:14:08 uncomfortable talking about the cost with patients. In my practice, this is one of the few times I do have a risk benefit discussion with patients about costs because it's really expensive. You're talking about what could be the cost of a house when you start the treatment process. For many people, the bulk of the cost will get covered by insurance. That South Carolina family that was billed $200,000,
Starting point is 00:14:34 for instance, only ended up paying $175 out of pocket for the antivenom. But for the uninsured, that's not the case. For a while I was working in the Central Valley of California, there's a lot of migrant farm workers who get bitten in the fields. That's a very frank discussion with them regarding how much this is going to cost. It's like, do you want to financially bankrupt somebody based on this treatment? That's a wrenching decision.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Fortunately, in the US, it's a relatively rare one. There are fewer than 10,000 venomous snakebites in the US each year, and on average, only five result in death. But abroad, it's a different story. That's coming up. Globally, as many as 2.7 million people are affected by venomous bites from snakes each year. The World Health Organization estimates that those bites kill between 80,000 and 140,000 people.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And they cause around three times as many permanent disabilities like amputations. Many of these bites happen in Southeast Asia and Central Africa, poor regions where health care can be hard to find. If anti-venom is expensive in the U.S., Sean Bush says in poorer countries it can be entirely unobtainable. Right now the shortage is in resource-challenged areas like Africa, and that's because companies that made antivenom for Africa, they just pulled out. It wasn't profitable, and so they just stopped making it. In 2020, antivenom manufacturers produced around one million doses of product, well below what's needed to treat the number of venomous bites.
Starting point is 00:16:29 India and Africa have some of the highest snakebite death tolls in the world, largely due to lack of access. One company trying to change that is Premium Serums and Vaccines, based in Pune, India. Nitin Deshpande is a business consultant with the company, who was at Venom Week. We've got the top two products for Asia, which is India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, that region.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Then we got something for sub-Saharan Africa. And then we have one specifically for Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria. We are producing close to about a million and a half vials of anti-venom every year. The products that premium serums make are polyvalent. Each anti-venom neutralizes venom from many different species of snakes. This is important because India and Africa have nearly a hundred venomous snakes, including cobras, vipers, and mambas. This is important because India and Africa have nearly 100 venomous snakes, including
Starting point is 00:17:25 cobras, vipers, and mambas. And people who arrive at the hospital often don't know what species they were bitten by. The single product covers the bites of 24 species of poisonous snakes found in sub-Saharan Africa. One single product. Polyvalent antivenoms often come with a few more side effects, but they save lives at a much more affordable price.
Starting point is 00:17:49 On Indian e-commerce platforms, you can find premium serums antivenom for as little as 700 rupees, or around $8 per vial. We price our product economically for that particular region. Deshpande isn't the only person working to expand global access to anti-venom. Also in attendance at Venom Week was the Asclepius Snakebite Foundation. The mission basically is to save lives in areas that don't have almost any care right
Starting point is 00:18:19 now. Again, that's Nick Brandyhoff. He's the organization's executive director. He says it sources its anti-venom from a Mexican manufacturer, which keeps costs low. Our anti-venom, we can treat a patient for about $100 in total. A severe envenomation is about $200. And so we're able to fundraise and effectively treat patients relatively cheaply as compared to in the United States.
Starting point is 00:18:48 If somebody can't pay, we will pay for them or maybe they need four vials of anti-venom versus just two, but they can only pay for one. We'll cover the three. The organization has worked to set up snake bite centers in Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Conga Brazzaville, where local staff is trained to administer this antivenom. In Guinea, where a clinic was opened in 2019, the results have been astounding. Brandy Hoff says that among people who are bit, Snakebite mortality has dropped from 30% to less than 2%.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Advancements are also happening on the science side. Researchers are working on an antivenom pill that would be much more affordable than intravenous treatment. And there are ongoing efforts to synthesize antibodies in a lab without the need for a sheep or a horse. Sean Bush is excited about that approach. It's going to revolutionize snakebite treatment because you're going to be able to afford
Starting point is 00:19:49 anti-venoms. Right now, you've got to use a host animal. It's got to be in Australia or something with these sheep. And then you've got to purify it and all these things. So many steps. It's so expensive to make. Jack Ficente, the venom collector who runs agri-toxins in Florida, thinks these shifts could eventually render his services obsolete. The venom business as we knew it and know it today is on its way out. In the next 10 or 15 years, or certainly in the next 20, I don't think there'll be a lot of people grabbing snakes, collecting venom.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It'll be like labs where they can make their own chemical that they got from the venom. All the venoms that are being collected are being catalogued, they're being stored, you know, what's in them, and they look at the genetics and everything, and before long, they know they can figure out, oh, this protein is what I want. They don't need the venom anymore. Before long, they know they can figure out, oh, this protein is what I want. They don't need to venom anymore. But even though it could put them out of work, Vicente is looking forward to a world with more snake bite
Starting point is 00:20:53 treatments, especially after he recently got a bite of his own. It was a significant coral snake bite and used for a vial of anti-venom from Costa Rica. Worked well, but I did stay in the hospital for two days. As you get into this full-time, you realize, I don't want to get bit again. Number one, it hurts. Number two, it's expensive. And number three, you need all your fingers and hands to keep doing it. For the economics of everyday things, I'm Zachary Krakat.
Starting point is 00:21:29 This episode was produced by me and Sarah Lilly and mixed by Jeremy Johnston. We had help from Daniel Moritz-Rapson and a special thanks to our listeners Chloe Vasquez and Amanda Hartman for suggesting this topic. If you've got an idea for us, send it to everydaythings at Freakonomics.com. Thanks to our listeners Chloe Vasquez and Amanda Hartman for suggesting this topic. If you've got an idea for us, send it to everydaythings at Freakonomics.com. Does Marriott know there's snakes on premises? I didn't like super advertise but I did tell them. I did email them.
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