THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Given a 1% Chance to Live – Matt Long’s Incredible Survival Story
Episode Date: February 4, 2025Would You Go Through Your Worst Pain Again? Imagine facing an event so catastrophic that doctors give you a 1% chance to live. Now, imagine coming out the other side not only surviving but running a m...arathon just three years later. That’s the reality of today’s guest, Matt Long. Matt was a firefighter, an athlete, and a man in peak physical condition when life threw him under the bus—literally. A tragic accident left him with devastating injuries, five months in the hospital, 43 surgeries, and a battle not just for his body but for his will to live. There were moments when he questioned if it was worth it, when the pain and uncertainty nearly broke him. But it was in those moments that he discovered something most people never will—what he was truly made of. His story isn’t just about survival. It’s about rebuilding, redefining what’s possible, and finding purpose in the pain. Matt didn’t just fight his way back—he made his tragedy his testimony, using his experience to inspire others to keep pushing forward. Whether you’re facing loss, failure, or adversity, this conversation is a wake-up call that you are stronger than you think. Matt shares the brutal truth about what it takes to fight through life’s hardest moments and how he found the strength to start dreaming again. And at the end of it all, when asked if he’d take the easy way out—if he’d let that bus miss him—his answer will leave you speechless. Key Takeaways: How Matt found purpose in his pain and why it changed his life. The one conversation that reignited his will to live. Why setting new goals—no matter how impossible—can change your mindset. The real reason why your hardest moments might be the best thing to ever happen to you. How to rebuild yourself when life hits you like a bus (literally or metaphorically). You’re going to walk away from this one with a whole new perspective on what’s possible in your own life. If Matt can come back from this, what excuse do you have? Let’s go. Max out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So you know when I do an in-person interview something big is about to happen today and so the gentleman to my right had a
99% chance of not being here today and I don't mean in our studio, I mean of
still being on earth and being alive. A significant event happened in his life
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He has a book that's been out now called The Long Run and you're going to figure out just in about
10 minutes here why it's called The Long Run. So my guest today is Matt Long. Matt, welcome to the
show. Ed, thanks for having me man. Thank you. Really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for being
here brother and coming in in person too. So let's kind of go back to December of 2005,
and you had a pretty good life going at that time.
Yeah, I would say so.
I was a New York City fireman for 12 years at that point,
an athlete my entire life,
and I had just completed the New York City Marathon,
qualifying for Boston.
I'm 38 years old, and I'm in better shape
than I was when I was 21.
And that was the big goal.
You did the New York because you wanted to run in the Boston Marathon, right? Correct, 100%. I'm 38 years old and I'm in better shape than I was when I was 21. And that was the big goal.
You did the New York because you wanted to run
in the Boston Marathon, right?
Correct, 100%.
Boston is that unique statue where you meet someone
that ran it, you say, where'd you qualify?
When you meet someone who finished New York,
you ask them how fast they ran.
Did you break four hours?
But Boston is like, you gotta qualify to get there,
at least back then, and that was our goal
In the group guys I was running with when you were prepping just so I understand the whole genesis story
You had left like a wall street job. I think right and then become a new york city firefighter. Is that right? Am I right? Correct?
Well, I was an accountant of all things. So it wasn't even as sexy as wall street
Okay, I was an accountant that wanted a big eight accounting firms
And um, I knew that wasn't for me,
so I wrote it out for two years, the best I could,
and got involved in bartending and in the restaurant business
and then became a New York City firefighter when I was 26.
So you're doing this profession that everybody now
looks up to and understands the heroic nature.
By the way, just with the fires recently in LA,
just watching those guys made me think of you
because I knew we were gonna be doing this interview.
And so sometimes you look at those guys,
you think they're supermen, but they're men, right?
And so were you, and we can all be hurt and injured
or have tragedy enter our life.
So here we go, everybody.
So let's take them through what happened
in December of 2005 for you.
All right, so in New York City,
the Transit Authority went on strike.
So it basically crippled the city
during the busiest time of the year.
We have eight million people that live there,
another eight million people come there for the holidays.
Transit Authority goes on strike.
No buses, no trains, nothing.
The mayor put in these travel restrictions,
and I lived in the heart of Manhattan.
I lived in 48th and 3rd,
and had a small one bedroom apartment.
My firehouse was up in Spanish Harlem,
and I was at this point an instructor at the fire academy.
So in order for me to get to work,
I could have driven my car,
but then I wouldn't have got back to Manhattan by myself
if the strike was still on.
So 18 degrees with a wind chill probably of 10,
probably about eight, nine degree day.
And I'm not a foul weather athlete,
maybe running but not biking or anything else.
I'm like, you know what, it's done for the day.
I got on my bike and I tried to ride my bike to work
and I got four blocks from where I lived.
Oh my gosh.
And I remember driving up North,
a third avenue north, and this big white bus
just coming from all the way to the left.
And I'm like, what's going on?
Like it's getting close, it's 5.30 in the morning,
it's pitch black.
And I'm like, holy, and I'm like, holy shit.
Like he's turning.
Now he was turning down a narrow street,
like a one way street in Manhattan,
that a bus would normally never turn down,
maybe 57 to 34th, the double two-lane streets.
Boom, right, he gets right in front of me
and I couldn't stop.
And for whatever reason,
I didn't bounce off the side of the bus,
I got sucked underneath.
Oh my gosh, so I knew it.
So everyone, I knew he got hit by the bus.
You went under the-
I was under the bus.
And the bike, the bike and me became one
basically, you know, I don't mean to be too graphic, but it's
the only way to tell the story. And so the bike basically split
me open, like a can from my anus to my sternum. Oh, my gosh. So I
was crushed, bone fractures and stuff like that. But the worst
is I was bleeding to death. Out in the street.
Out in the street. In the cold.
Are you conscious of what's happening?
Or have you fallen unconscious or in and out?
I'm in and out.
I'd like to say I was semi-conscious.
But I think the mind,
we all underestimate the power of our mind
and our thoughts, right?
So I think that the mind immediately said, he
doesn't need to remember any of this. Because if he lives, he'll
never function again. So I started, I blacked out, like
pretty much, I don't remember anything. The last word I
remember hearing the fireman, the firehouse was right around
the corner. Now I've told you, I was in the bar business, restaurant business, I knew a lot the fireman, the firehouse was right around the corner.
Now I told you I was in the bar business,
restaurant business, I knew a lot of firemen.
And once they cut the hood off my head,
I heard one of the firefighters say,
holy shit, it's Matt Long from 43 Truck.
Oh my gosh.
So at that moment I knew I was in good hands.
Not that we would not take care of anyone else
any differently, but I'm a brother.
You're a brother, yeah.
And extra care goes into that.
And the first life-saving act was from a police officer,
you know, our friendly rivals,
but a police officer said, he's a firefighter,
and instead of putting on the blue glove
in that cold weather, he just reached into my groin
and held my femoral artery.
You're literally bleeding out.
Bleeding out.
This man saved your life then. He's the first order of business, saved my life. Physically literally bleeding out. Bleeding out. This man saved your life.
He's the first order of business, saved my life.
Physically with his hand.
With his hand.
Oh my gosh.
Now I know he wouldn't have done that to an average person
because there's too much at risk.
Too much risk.
He took the chance because he knew I was a firefighter.
Wow.
And then that's all I remember.
Before we go to the next step,
are you in physical pain? Maybe that's a naive question. Or are you
such in such shock you're not feeling anything? Total shock. Didn't feel a thing. Okay. I
know I was screaming because they told me I was. Anything I could tell you now, anything
I've told in the past is what recounts of other people's interactions with me from this
moment on. What were you screaming for? Do you think? Pain or fear you were gonna die?
I probably pain and, you know,
I don't think I knew the magnitude of what was happening.
It was probably pain.
You know, the fear of, or the thought of death
didn't come into play probably till six or seven weeks later
when I was awake and realized what I was going through.
You know, the pity parties that we'll talk about.
I wanna just first just stop and think some you're going to bleed to death in
this street. Yeah. Cause the part of the story in every story,
when someone has a story like yours, there are other heroic things,
kind of even like the fires in California that I'm referencing,
like of all the tragedy there and if there was arson involved,
but then there's all the heroic things, not just the firefighters,
but the people that are donating and showing up every day.
So this man, do you know who he is?
I have his name, but we've never met.
I tried to go a couple of times
when I was fresh out of the hospital
and the comeback was on top of me.
The comeback was happening and I wanted to make sure
all those people that did something for me knew that it was happening. That's awesome. The comeback wasn't for
me only. Yeah. Well it won't be for you only today either. There's gonna be millions of people are
gonna be inspired. First things first everybody let's just step back for a second. I know you're
thinking you're having a bad day or a bad week or a bad month. You're going through a bad time.
I would just say this to you and you you may really be, but compared to what?
And if this man can go through what he went through to be sitting here today on
the other side of this, and
successful speaker and author, great family man, because we're going to go through this
journey,
if he can come out from under this bus crushed, bleeding to death, split in half,
about to die, tell them
one percent chance to live, you can certainly come back from what you're going through.
You can certainly survive this time.
And God is in your life as well.
Okay, so let's walk through what's next from there.
What's the next thing you remember
or the next things that happened?
So the next thing that happened was they stabilized me,
slowed the bleeding and got me
to New York Presbyterian Hospital.
There was two options, right?
They could have made a right turn down Second Avenue and take me to New York Presbyterian Hospital, there was two options, right? They could have made a right turn down Second Avenue
and take me to Bellevue,
or they went to First and made a left
to New York Presbyterian.
So I think that was the first,
second order of business that saved my life.
I'm not-
Why?
Because it was just the right hospital
with the right doctors,
and at the right time.
I've gone back to tell my doctors thank you
for what you've done for me.
And one of them was brutally honest with me.
He says, look, we didn't save your life.
He goes, everything happened.
Everything was in line.
Like you weren't meant to die.
And I was like, what?
What do you mean?
He goes, your accident happened at 5.38 in the morning.
He goes, if it would have happened at 6.38 in the morning,
all those operating rooms would have been booked, done, ready to go. And you would have been waiting
in that emergency room for another hour and died. And died. Oh, my gosh. He says, so the fact that
you got here before everyone else, everyone else got bumped, and you went from room to room to room
until we had you stable. You know, that makes me think ironically, one, how blessed you are,
but that was the case.
And it was destiny that you're here.
But the other part of it is,
just to what struck me when you said it is like,
this is, tragedies are happening daily.
To the point where there's not even enough beds
and we just go through our day thinking,
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that I didn't get on Instagram
or said something bad to me or cut me off in traffic
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It's just the things we make a big deal in our life compared to the actual big deals.
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You now are there, you've gone to the right place. What ends up saving your life or when is the decisions made etc etc?
What what are you faced with?
So so in the first like five or six hours of the ordeal they gathered my family.
All right, so I'm one of nine children. I'm the second oldest, seven boys, two girls.
There's three firemen and the rest of different jobs,
Wall Street, school, teachers, whatever.
So they gathered my mom and dad, I was single,
so they got my mom and dad,
they got all my family members to the hospital.
And this is when the percentage was given out.
I always feel for doctors is they have,
in this situation, an ER doctor
has a tough job, like they have to go outside to a family member and give them hope. But
there's a line between false hope and actual like something's going to be positive here.
So I don't know how they do it. But it's part of their profession. They know how they do it. Doctor goes out to tell my mom and my dad
that this is as bad as it gets.
We're gonna do everything we can,
but he has about a 1% chance to live.
And he only went out, now again,
I'm still friends with him as well,
and he only went out because the nurses begged him
to stop wasting blood and to let me expire.
So he said, let me go out and talk to the parents and I'll be back in 36 to 60 seconds
and we'll see what happens.
So my mom, this is this is a very pivotal point for my in my journey that I teach the
strength of my mother. And she basically stubborn Irish Catholic woman.
And she told the doctor flat out, do the best you can.
He's running the Boston Marathon in April.
And the doctor was like, now he was a runner
who just finished the same marathon,
but an hour and a half slower than me.
Are you kidding me?
So he said-
An hour and a half slower.
He's like, what?
He's running Boston? So he ran back outhouse. Yeah, he's like what he's running Boston
So he ran back into the room looked up at the monitors and my heartbeat was down somewhere
29 to 31 beats per minute. Oh boy, and he said
Keep working
We're not dealing with a regular person here. His body is trained to go through insult keep working
Oh my gosh, and ten sixty eight units of insult. Keep working. Oh my gosh. And 68 units of blood in 11 hours.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
So that's why the nurses are like,
hey, we're just pouring blood into this guy.
I was just going out.
I was like a sieve.
Oh my goodness.
But they finally got me to interventional radiology
and a doctor there, sealed up all the veins that were cut.
And they finally took care of it.
And I stabilized over the next five to six weeks. What was your, do you remember your first thought sealed up all the veins that were cut. And they finally took care of it.
And I stabilized over the next five to six weeks.
What was your, do you remember your first thought
when you woke up or what you remember from that experience?
Oh, I wanted to get the hell out of bed.
Like as soon as I woke up.
Did you not understand the magnitude?
I had no idea.
So when I talked about the mind earlier being so powerful,
I forgot things before the accident.
So when they come in to do like a cognitive test
to see how bad their head was hurt,
and they would ask me if I'd like to travel,
and I'm sitting there with like,
I had like maybe a fireman in the room with me and my mom,
and I'm like, uh, nah, I don't like to travel.
And my buddy goes, we just went to Puerto Rico together.
We had a big, I went, oh, yeah, yeah,
we went to Puerto Rico.
So when people told me things, they came back.
And I think that was just part of the mind saying,
this guy doesn't need to know what happened to him.
Wow, it's God's way of protecting us somehow.
Exactly.
Okay, here we go guys.
And we're gonna pull apart some lessons from this as well.
I'm just, it's interesting,
when you hear stories like this, you read it in a book,
it's powerful, I recommend everybody read the book.
Or if we do a podcast and you listen to it or we do zoom
It's different when you sit right next to someone this has happened to I just can tell you even my own personal experience
Listening to you. It's very different being three feet away from a person who has gone through something like this
You just feel something from them something about their spirits a little bit
Tougher, I don't you know tougher is what I would say about you.
Also just listening to you, you're a real person.
You know what I mean?
Everyone can hear your family background
and where you come from and what your career was.
This is a real human being.
I think we always think superheroes are like six, eight,
can reverse windmill dunk.
You know what I'm saying?
Or can sing like Adele.
Everyday people are heroes.
You can't measure the heart of a champion, right?
You can't.
So after all of this sort of settles out
and now you are alive,
then there's this idea of like walking, right?
That would be nice to be able to do again.
What was the prognosis on that even happening?
Nevermind ever running
again or running a marathon again. What about walking? I'm just curious,
was that in the cards from the beginning or was there a concern about that?
No, that was in the cards from the very beginning. I think because of my
personality, once I woke up, I was like, okay, how do I get out of here?
What's happening? What are these pieces of metal coming out of my abdomen,
my leg? What's on my neck?
I was on a ventilator, I had a feed-in tube.
I'm like, I need to go.
So, and the doctor was like,
my brother Jim and I are the closest of the nine,
he's only like 13 months apart, younger than me.
But he had to be there and say, hey, listen,
you were run over by a bus. And I'm like, what? He's like, that, you know,
you need to listen, you're in a good place, and the doctors are
taking good care of you. And you need to listen what he has to
say. So I sat there, well, I was laying there. And the doctor
said, Listen, you're going to be here for quite a while. And I said, Okay. And well, what's next for me, doc?
He's like, Look, let's not go down that road right now. Because
you have a lot of surgeries. We have a lot of things to fix.
And he goes, we're gonna do the best we can. Because but I can't
guarantee anything.
You'd be lucky if you're walking with a cane
or a crutch the rest of your life.
Wow.
It's amazing.
You literally sometimes will say to somebody
kind of joking like, well, what if you got hit by a bus?
Yeah, what would you do if you got hit by a bus?
You were literally hit by the bus.
Now you shouldn't have probably lived.
You end up living metal stuff sticking out of everywhere, ventilator, and probably shouldn't have probably lived. You end up living metal stuff
sticking out of everywhere, ventilator and probably aren't gonna walk. I'm gonna
give you guys a spoiler alert just so you're about to know the lessons. This
dude ran that marathon three years later. I just want you to get this. So from that
right where we are and the reason I give you the spoiler alert, so we're gonna
fill the gaps in with the lessons but But from that bed, three years later,
he runs that marathon.
Just so you know.
By the way, that's bad ass and you're a stud.
Yeah, you're a stud.
I mean, I know it's your story,
but maybe sitting here hearing yourself,
like I know you've told it a lot,
like is that not freaking ridiculous
that three years later you end up doing that?
Is that not?
Yeah, it's insane.
It's insane.
No, and I accepted the fact that it was insane.
I don't think I knew how bad as it was.
One day when I was rebuilding myself,
I would go from different gyms where I lived
and I'm training and some guy came up to me in the gym
and he said, are you, you the guy that got hit by the bus?
And I was
like, yeah. And he goes, Hey, you got your 1%. And I'm what he goes, No, he goes, the
stuff that seals are made of the stuff that Rangers are made of those special military
people that made us that's what you're made of. And you know what? Something's interesting.
I think you'd agree with me on this, because are You won't ever know that about yourself in life until you go through your biggest valley in your life
Would you like a seal figures out I made of this stuff because they went through
Seal training right they know that most of us will never know what we're made of unless in some strange way
We're given the gift almost of the toughest moments of our life.
Would you agree with that?
100%, I may say it all the time.
God doesn't give weak people hard things to do.
God gives hard things to do to strong people.
And I've said this a thousand times,
and I got this from my mom,
but I was chosen because I was strong enough to do it and
Maybe my story
Being told by you or John our friend or through the book will help someone not as strong not give up
I love that by the way
That's a lesson for everybody else what you're going through right now
And then your your test becomes your testimony your testimony can help the weaker person go through what they're going through and that's why you need to get through it. Man, I'm loving
this right now. Just so you know, this is kind of why I did the show. What we're doing
right now, I do a lot of topics but if we're gonna go to kind of the core why I did the
show, it's this right now. You used a term a minute ago that I caught which was rebuild
myself. I want to talk about that. Take us through the different surgeries you had, how
many you had. But this idea of rebuilding yourself, I think a lot of people need to hear real close
what you're about to say, because I think a lot of people, they may not have been
hit by a bus. And I don't mean to be too goofy here, but metaphorically,
something's hitting them like a bus right now. Their business gone away, their
relationship went away, their friends, you know, hurt them in a way, or someone
stole or lost a loved one. Exactly.
And life's hit them by a bus and they're going to have to rebuild themselves.
So what did that look like? How many surgeries? What did you start to do?
And what about this rebuilding yourself thing?
All right, so we'll go through the hospital. I spent five months in this hospital.
I did my rehab there and everything after,
but I spent five months in the hospital had about 43 surgeries in that
period of time 43 three different surgeries most of them
were internal. Look bones heal they put bones back together but
I'll start with the left foot up broken foot. Every fracture was
compound meaning the bone came out the skin. Tib fib compound
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Yeah, I don't know what to say about that.
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What about your mind that When you say that I thought
of, you know, any PTSD or your spirit in your mind just like
going why this you had to had some moments of why this happened
to me or I don't want to this isn't fair. You must have had
some of that.
I had a lot of it and it didn't get really bad until I left the
hospital. So when I was in the hospital, oddly enough,
I wouldn't want to be in hospital five months, but it was there was a safety factor there.
I had that little button. And if I needed anything at night, I hit that button. In the
next few minutes, a nurse was coming to see me. When I was sent home, I was still in a
wheelchair, my younger brother moved into my house, put his life on hold, and he lived on my couch. And I didn't have that button anymore. So what I did have it was a side table about the
best big is that one in the middle here, with about 19 different medications on it. And night
after night, I rolled over and looked at them and said, is it enough? And I the fight with myself was,
well, you just got ran over by a 40,000 pound bus. I'm not sure
it's enough. What do you mean by is it enough to kill me? I
thought that's what you meant. But I wanted to make sure was
it enough to take? Wow, That would make me go to sleep and end this.
And jokingly, my personality and my grit
that I didn't know I had,
this will not to give up that I didn't know I had,
or maybe some stories in my life before
should have gave me a warning that I have it.
But I said, well, if a bus didn't kill me,
I'm here now and I take all those,
what happens if it doesn't kill me?
What am I, a vegetable?
What do I do to my family?
Am I brain dead?
What do I do?
What am I doing?
What if you would have,
was there ever a moment there, Matt,
where if you knew it could have taken your life,
you knew it would have worked,
would you have partaken in taking it, do you think?
Was there ever a moment like that?
Yeah, I think if I knew for sure
that I could stop the pain and the doubt
of what my life was going to be like, the unknown,
I would have done it.
Wow.
Yeah, if I knew for sure.
But I didn't.
And I'm glad I didn't.
I'm glad you didn't.
Couple million people are glad you didn't.
Thank you.
Well, more than that probably.
Do you think, wow.
Ed, my moments of pity,
I call them pity parties, right?
So I allow myself a pity party even today.
But I don't want the pity party to win. And my moments of pity were not why me,
why did this happen, why am I hurt, why I'm in pain.
My moments of pity were one question, why did I live?
And I remember having a conversation
with a family priest about it.
And he had asked me, he came in to visit me and I was very angry.
I was still in the hospital. I was very angry at the time.
And my parents had let Father Jim go in and talk to him.
So Father Jim came in and I was rolling my eyes a little bit like, here we go.
You know, God has a plan for me, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, OK.
So this first time I remember lying to a priest.
I'm 38 years old, I felt bad about it.
He asked me flat out if I was angry with God.
And I should have said yes.
And I didn't.
I said, no, I'm not angry with God.
I said, but Father Jim,
I don't need to know why this happened to me.
I need to know why I lived.
And he said, that's between you and him.
And that was the end of the conversation.
Are you convinced that part of the reason you lived
is like what we're doing right now?
Like you writing the book and us talking about this
and the inspirational part of it?
100%.
100%, I believe that the first 38 years of my life
were great.
I was a happy-go-lucky kid running around Manhattan,
firefighter, chasing women, doing everything I could, jock.
The first time I had the opportunity to tell my story,
I didn't think anything of it until I got an email.
Then I got another email.
Then I got another email.
Then I'm getting texts, and someone's following me
on Instagram, but someone's doing else,
and they're saying thank you yeah for not giving up yeah
well thank you for not giving up I can tell you that today this moves me FYI
like it moves me I want to go back to this not knowing thing you got me a
little bit today bro I'm a little bit emotional on this one you was that as
hard as the physical pain I think a lot of people listening to this, like, they're like, Hey,
you know what I'm most struggling with?
Isn't even so much that this stuff's happened to me or that I'm in this spot.
It's that I don't know what's next. I don't know what's coming.
How hard was that part of it? And, and what did you do about that?
Just put your head down day by day. Or what did you do?
The mental part of it was the worst, right?
So so that says a lot based on your injuries and 47 surgeries.
Correct. And it is it is.
And it's probably that way for everyone, no matter what that what we talk about,
whether it's the loved one that they lost or or a diagnosis they got or,
you know, lost their job. The mental side of it is the loved one that they lost or a diagnosis they got or lost their job,
the mental side of it is the worst.
And I remember talking to my doctor one time
and I was kind of sarcastically saying,
I'm like, hey, well, thanks a lot.
I still had a colostomy bag.
I was still in pretty bad shape
and I was hoping to get rid of things.
I didn't want the colostomy bag at all know, at all. And I said, so he
said, I said to me, I appreciate your hard work, but you fell
short. And we had that kind of rapport. And he said, Listen,
our job is not to worry about the quality of life. It's about
saving your life. We saved your life. I said okay, because the quality of life is up to you.
So that was the first like little smack I got
from someone outside family,
but pretty much family now is a doctor.
And I took a long time for that to set in.
Like what does that mean?
Like what, the quality of life is up to me.
I mean I'm in a wheelchair part of the day,
I have a class of me bag.
I went from 178 pounds, 12% body fat,
to 122 pounds, no muscle tone,
and I look like my 90 year old grandfather.
I said I don't understand this.
And that and the conversation with my mother
that really made me change my outlook
about what was happening to me.
Okay, adversity, right?
A lot of us in this business or talk that have stories
we talk about the adversity we overcame, okay?
And I know for a fact, just from talking to you earlier,
that you haven't overcome your adversity
from your baseball accident.
You live with it. So I adversity from your baseball accident. You lived with it.
So I had to accept this accident.
I had to accept all the injuries.
I had to accept the new body and say,
what are we gonna do about it?
What quality of life am I gonna get back?
Because I can't go to a doctor for it.
So I started plugging away.
I'm just picturing you because now I'm doing the math.
So if you're two years with a colostomy bag, you're a year out of that and run the marathon, right?
Correct. Yeah, that's bananas.
So was part of, obviously we would spend hours on the physical pain of physical therapy and going through the surgeries and the mental pain of waking up with it every day. It's one thing to hear a story
It's another thing like Monday was this way for you Tuesday was this day Wednesday the next Monday the next it's every day
Any of you that have even had the flu for eight days?
Imagine years of surgery pain physical therapy
You can no longer also do what you used to love to do which is to be physical and be active
Was part of what got you through or were you not envisioning this setting the
goal to go run this marathon again? Was that like, I got
something to look forward to? I've set a goal. Did that help
get you through or it wasn't till years later? Like, maybe I
run a marathon.
It wasn't to a moment in in in the journey. So So no, that is
not what got me through. What is it that got you through?
So the catalyst to get my human spirit fired up
and all the burners inside me to start working again
was a conversation with mom.
And I had said to my mother in a nutshell,
I just said to her, I'm glad you prayed and I lived.
I wish you prayed for me to die.
And that's something you don't say to your mom,
and especially the Irish Catholic stubborn mom
who told the doctor he's running a marathon in four months
after this, get patch him up, put a bandaid on. Right.
She and then she said to me, enough's enough.
She said, you're not the only person in this world that is suffering.
You are not the only one going through a tough time.
Because we have not left your side for five months
43 surgeries everyone has been here
If you want to be miserable s OB
The rest of your life do it by yourself
End of conversation some tough love. Mm-hmm
Now that was the spark that I needed to hear it took about two weeks before I got over the pity parties
and started to say, my mom was right.
There are other people, and I listen to the people
you have on here when you bring in the real life story,
like mine, and I'm like, you know,
the woman you had on recently lost her limbs.
I'm like, she's 10 times worse than the life I have.
So mom was right back then, she's right today.
I started plugging away.
That's when I put my head down.
That's when I said to myself, all right, Matt,
what were you doing in your life when you were happiest?
What was driving you forward as a kid?
The dream to play high school basketball.
You played high school basketball.
What was your next dream?
To make it to the college level.
I didn't care where I played, I wanted to play college.
So I always had a goal, athletic, pushed myself,
the Ironman, the marathon, because I was confused
and I didn't know what I could do next.
I knew nothing else but to push my body to its limits.
So I said I want to close the chapter
on Matt Long, marathon runner, Matt Long, triathlete.
I wanted to go back and do those two things
and then figure out what's next.
And I knew they wouldn't be the same
because I've accepted this new body,
I accepted this adversity in my life.
So I came back and did that marathon three years,
it took me seven hours and 30 minutes.
You finished it.
I finished it.
Yeah, it's interesting when you're in person with somebody,
your whole physiology spirit, you just see that Stephen Stephen completely changed once you talked about your mom's conversation
Like by the way and your intensity level and you leaned in and humans are awesome when humans flip that switch
They're the mind the spirit. They're capable of so much one because your whole bro
You're your whole being was different and then the gold actually run but it's
like did you see that Steven too like in person the switch in you same guy like just different
just a it's like a switch and my mother did that for me i when i talk on stage and we're
i'm probably a little older than you but if you remember back in the day the the old stove the
white stove i think if you touch the middle of the stove,
there was a pilot light that always burned.
It's not electric like today.
There was always a pilot light.
And my story is that analogy is that's the human spirit.
We all have this pilot light burning inside of us.
How do you get the four burners going?
And my mom did that for me.
She lit them all up. And
anything is possible when they're firing up.
Bro, that's awesome. What was finishing the marathon like?
Finishing was awesome. It was it was a it was an emotional finish finish line, my family, the fire department, guys from
my house, and all my doctors. Well, not all but some
of my doctors were they there. My one doctor, God rest his soul
is not with us anymore. But he he had just had a baby during my
ordeal. So he missed a lot of his things with it with his
third child, third daughter. And I crossed the finish line.
Everyone's you know, super static for me, congratulating me.
And he pulls me aside, and this I loved.
He pulls me aside really quick.
He said his wife, and we took a picture,
and he looks at his kids and he goes,
girls, this is why daddy misses Christmas.
And we have a bond to this day with that family.
But I was like, like that was another story
within my story, right?
Here is a guy who sacrifices his whole life to help people.
The sacrifice comes in his children.
He operated on me on Christmas, on New Year's,
and in time after time after time.
And this was a reward.
That's why I did what I did to run that marathon,
let them know that their sacrifices did not go
on unfinished, unpaid back, you know?
Yeah.
Bro, your story's bananas.
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lessons out everybody. Why did you call it The Long Run? The book. The book is a spin off of a story
they did in Runner's World magazine.
I know.
And it was called The Second Life.
Which is what I really liked.
But we can't do that again.
So the running magazine world,
the running community,
we needed to have something about running.
It's not only about running. Of course, not very little about running the long
run, the journey. And I jokingly take people back to who I was
my personalities as a kid, overconfident cocky kid from
Brooklyn, I get it, not for everyone. But but, but when,
when hit the fan in real life, real time,
it might, it could have been 10 years
for me to run that marathon again.
It could have been longer.
Or the truth of the matter is that even though I wrote it,
even though I did the marathon, did the Ironman
and I'm living a pretty good life, still wake up in pain.
I know you do.
I still struggle and have pity parties. So my run
is not over. Brother, I love that you're being honest about that. By the way, just the idea that
2005 you're under this bus on a freezing day bleeding out guys holding your artery, your
femoralis, so you don't bleed out that three years later, you're crossing the finish line of the
it's the New York City Marathon, you finish that thing, right? It's just bananas. It's just, it's just unreal.
And, but it should give everyone hope.
Like by the way, it's a long life and a long run,
but the turnaround sometimes feels long when you're doing it,
but it may not, you may be one decision away,
one new relationship away,
but you can also be one event away from your life changing.
But to your point of your today,
I want to say
something to you that I noticed when I came down the stairs to greet you. You turned around
and I was a little bit struck. You look great. Anybody watching YouTube will see this. But
you do still struggle to some extent physically. We both were talking about our ailments coming
in here. I missed our interview when we were scheduled guys for a root canal and this guy
survives being pulled under a bus.
So there's two caliber of men sitting here today.
He was gonna joke about it. I said, well, someone needs to bring it up.
I literally had to reschedule our first interview for a root canal for a dude who was dragged under a bus.
The caliber of toughness here is not equal.
But you do still have the remnants of this,
because sitting here and hearing you, people like, OK, he's past it.
It's over. This guy must be just perfect.
But not true, right? You still struggle.
That's it. I still struggle.
Like like I said about my right leg not being functionally attached to my body.
A lot of the muscle never came back.
So I like to joke with my wife, if we're walking down the street, I say,
could you mind standing on the other side so you can put your hand on my left
cheek because my right cheek is mush and it makes me feel bad that you're touching something that
I can't feel. And we have a joke, a laugh about it, whatever. So I have like my stabilizing muscles
on my right side of the arm so I can't stand on my right leg alone. And that's
that's easy. But to be honest, you know, being having your rectum and your anus torn apart
and being in a classroom bag for two years and a doctor saying we can put you back together.
But we don't know how long it we don't know if it's gonna work. You have to train, I told John about this
and I don't openly talk about it,
because who wants to talk about it?
Like, you need to.
I had to train my rectum to operate again,
because it was doing nothing for two years.
So before the doctor could take the classmate bag out
and put me back together, he had to know that
I wasn't just gonna walk around crapping myself.
Everywhere, right.
So what I went through Ed, the word dignity was gone.
I had to enlist a friend to come in my apartment
and squeeze cream or wheat into my rectum.
And as soon as he was done, I kicked him out.
And then I had to record how much was in
and how long it stayed in.
My goodness, bro.
And I did that for seven months months twice a week for seven months and
It worked my gosh, you know and the doctor knew my mentality and he said to me you trained for marathons
You trained for I am ends. I need you to train to get home
And I did it and I mean when he told me and I left that doctor was like no way
No way And I did it. And I mean, when he told me, and I left that doctor, it was like, no way, no way, but I did it.
I don't eat premium wheat anymore. I'm sorry, she's in a commercial food.
But I think probably nobody is, but after that,
but I'm glad you shared it because the real details of a comeback,
it's easy to hear in a story. Oh, he was in pain. Oh my gosh, he had surgeries.
By the way, that's a good friend. Yes. It's pretty damn good friend
Goes down anonymous. Yeah, go go
But still that's that's a brother right there. Gosh, what could you come back from that are listening to this?
Are you hearing what this man went through? I'm sitting right with him
And by the way, I had the highest regard and admiration for you, but you're just a man, right?
You're just a man now
I really believe this.
You can't tell from looking at somebody
what they're made of.
And I think most human beings don't know
what they're made of until they face it,
until the bus of life hits them, right?
And then you're defined as a man or a woman.
We're all gonna get hit by life's bus,
whether it's happening right now or not.
They can reflect on this later
if it's not happening to them.
What would you say to that person,
it's just happened, if they ran into you at Starbucks,
my husband just left me, I just lost my dad,
my business just failed, I'm totally lost
and I don't have a dream in my life right now.
You go, well, I know a little bit about that.
What would you say?
What I would tell people is, or that person, is two things. I would say one, what I said earlier,
that God doesn't give good people easy things to do. Your journey doesn't have to be a bus,
isn't my journey. And where I would say to start is to look back in your life
and figure out, because a lot of times we go through life
without, oh yeah, oh remember, Ed, we had a good,
you had a great time on your football feast.
Wasn't that awesome?
Yeah, it was awesome.
Right, so you look back at things and you're like,
I, sometimes we just go through life
and forget those things, right?
I had to do an inventory check on my life.
When I was in the worst mental state period,
I had to do an inventory check,
look back in the rear view mirror,
say what was Matt Long doing when I was happiest?
And the answer kept coming back, I was dreaming.
As a kid I was dreaming, and dreams are goals, right?
You set the standard, you set the habits,
you create the plan, and you make sacrifices. It's still a dream that you want to bring to
fruition. So that's what I would tell someone who's going through a hard time right now. Okay,
take a deep breath. One, my mom says it, you're not the only person going through it.
Two, God knows you're strong enough to succeed. Three, go back. What
were you doing when you were happy? Figure it out. And we do
it. Repeat it, start dreaming again. That's the way I would
approach adversity on a blanket conversation. I love that
answer. You know, in the Hebrew, my understanding is the word
dream and health are very closely correlated
or almost the same word.
It was just, Chris Hodges has become a friend of mine,
runs a very, very big church,
and he was discussing dreams and health,
and he was saying, and I'm saying this too,
is that the happiest I've ever been in my life
is when I'm dreaming, when I've got a vision.
It's also like, dream and vision can kind of be a cheesy word, but imagination is another word for that.
Like when you're using your imagination, you're imagining your life.
Like God gave you this imagination. And when you're a little boy or a little
girl, one of the reasons I think kids are happy is they're full of imagination
and dreams. And, and, and so that is a direct connection to health and wellbeing.
You know, you said God a couple of times, but I'm around, you know,
I'm around the, some real God, God guys, you know, you know, some of these guys
are that are friends of mine.
And I guess I'm, I'm told that I'm that guy a lot too.
I'm wondering in your case, you're not one of these guys that runs in
praise God, praise God.
You know, you're, you're a quiet man that way,
dignified in that regard.
But I'm wondering how it impacted you.
Did it make you believe in God more and less,
got closer to God, not connected at all with,
just overall, you can't go through that
and not have some consideration of God and life
and dying and what it means or where you'd go or any of that stuff.
We're at and raised Irish Catholic church every Sunday
with the family same pew, blah, blah, blah. I believe I'm a man
of faith. Do I go to church every Sunday? No. I would like to try to do that better with my family and my kids. There are some things my belly is not acting right today to start part of my
adversity and I just say I'll watch online or so you have to church.
But I do believe.
That he put that bus there.
I do believe that this was something
I was meant to withstand, to go through.
I do believe that conversation with Father Jim
when he said, my purpose will be known when I'm ready.
You know, I'm lucky enough to be able to sit in platforms like this and tell my story, and I'm lucky enough to be able to sit in platforms like this
and tell my story, and I'm lucky enough to get on a stage
and get paid to tell my story, but whether I'm paid
or sit here in a conversational space,
the real reward comes in the email
that will follow this podcast,
the email that will follow this podcast, the email that will follow a speech.
And when I talk, like yourself, you're on stage
and you're talking to adults, right?
Professionals, some that are high net worth,
successful professionals.
And then you have time for Q&A
and it's like they're back in high school,
they don't wanna raise their hand, no one raised their hand.
But before my plane lands from West Coast to East Coast,
I got 16 emails in my box.
And you could see the tears in the email.
Like, thank you, thank you.
I'm going through something here.
I didn't want to raise my hand.
And that's, that I believe was divine intervention.
Like, okay, I'm not the smartest guy in the world.
I may have been the toughest, mentally toughest guy,
at least in my circle, but I was chosen for this. To help others.
I love that answer. By the way, it's honest. It's honest, which
is what you are. You're good, man. You're good, man. Thank you.
How's it changed you?
I'm still cocky, confident type of guy. And I'm, I try to do
things. But I think it gave me a little more empathy
towards people that might be going through things,
maybe a little more empathy, especially to my kids
and my nieces and nephews, a little bit.
You know, I'm still a tough uncle
and I think I'm a tough dad.
But I think, especially to my family and my kids,
and I joke with them all the time,
but I'm like, you know what daddy went through,
you know what daddy went through,
it's gonna help you.
You're built the same way.
You come from this.
Yeah, you come from this.
You come from the same cloth,
and my 12 year old doesn't get that yet, but.
That's okay.
But yeah, she will.
She'll get it someday. You know what they do? my kids. I think a lot of things with kids. I've said this before is caught not taught and
Usually what they catch they're not aware of until they leave your house and then they very much are aware
I've noticed that just with my kids as well
And they're catching a bunch from you brother
And by the way, millions people are catching a bunch from you today, too All right last thing I want to. And by the way, millions of people are catching a bunch from you today too.
All right, last thing I wanna ask you,
by the way, this has been remarkable.
I mean, I'm really honored to sit with you.
And so am I.
Well, thank you.
In your presence, it's great.
You're a tough dude.
You're a tough dude.
I mean, Root Kanell took me out,
but it's the perfect metaphor, by the way,
that you were the interview I had to move for the Root Kanell.
I think it's pretty hilarious. You know, as I sit and listen to you, I asked you, you know,
how it's changed you. And then I wonder, I've had life incidents, I'm going to push you really hard
on the last question here. I have life incidences where I've taken a lesson from it in the moment.
And then I've taken another lesson a little while later.
And then I've kind of given answers on shows about something.
And then I've really changed my mind about something.
And so I wonder how much of what we talked about today was like how you felt then compared to now.
And if you could go back.
If I can go back 19 years ago,
would I have the bus miss me?
No.
Wow.
And the first time I was asked that question, I paused.
But then I thought about the things that I have now in life.
You know, my children, my wife,
the people that have emailed me, thanking me for surviving, thanking me for
writing my story, thanking me for not quitting. All that will
go ahead. Now, that's a lot to put on a person. And I wasn't
ready for that. I mean, I got emails from people that were 10 times worse than me.
And I didn't know what to say to them.
But keep fighting, brother, keep fighting, sister.
You got this.
And I would go away. I'm like, oh, my God, I just got an email from a guy
who they told me is quadriplegic.
What am I going to do?
He's over at Christopher Reeves. He wants to meet me.
I'm like, this is not good, I'm gonna walk in there.
And this is, you know, I'm not gonna tell him,
I can't, this is not what I'm, I can't handle this.
And you know what?
He's walking.
And we're friends.
That's awesome, man.
So all that would go away.
That is unreal.
And I wouldn't want that to happen.
So you would not have the bus miss you.
But bro, this is an all time conversation right here.
I do it again.
This is my producer never gets emotional.
Like that's incredible.
Ah boy.
If you guys don't share today's episode,
I have no idea why we're doing this.
Cause this is just one of the most remarkable
conversations ever.
Matt, I'm really grateful we did this.
I'm grateful to John for introducing us.
I want everybody to go get the long run.
You can hire Matt to speak.
You can follow him on social.
Where should they find you?
So LinkedIn is the best.
Matthew Long, matlongspeaker.com is my website.
And matlongspeaker at Gmail, any questions.
I love taking emails and if it's just
for a word of confidence or a boost you need shoot it out
All right. All right, everybody. I hope you enjoyed today like I did
Yeah, gave you a perspective did everything I told you to give you perspective make you emotional and give you key takeaways and insights
That's why we do the show here. This was just perfect today. God bless you everybody max out
This is the end