The F Plus - 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference

Episode Date: January 1, 2019

Since 2004, the International Conference on Advances in Computer Entertainment Technology (or ACE, confusingly) has tried to explore the forefront of the intersection between humans and computers.... But some changes in the steering committee and a surprise keynote speaker set forth a chain of events we simply must explore. This week, The F Plus needs you to refill your smell cannisters before we Kissinger you again.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 Where else would it go? Not that that's going to be a spoiler or anything. Not that that's going to be a spoiler or anything. So today, I want to bring you a document provided to us by a fella by the name of Lemon. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much, Lemon, out there listening. Long time listener, first time submitter. First time in many years, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Long time listener, first time submitter. First time in many years, yeah. So I found a while ago this site for a conference called ACE. ACE in this particular case stands for Advances in Computer Entertainment Technology. So it is a, you know, they held it once a year at different places. It moves locations every year. And ACE 2018 was going to be the 15th conference,
Starting point is 00:04:21 the 15th ACE conference. Now, my understanding is that this is more of a, this is more of an academic conference than a, like, a consumer ACE conference. Now, my understanding is that this is more of an academic conference than a consumer product conference. Yes, absolutely. These are just academics. These are free thinkers, people that have thought experiments. And sometimes fund money. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Just not like PAX. We're going to go here to the Ace 2018 site, and you're going to see a picture of Black Block. And the only reason why Black Block is the hero image is that two months ago, that hero image was Nazis burning books. If you see that in the Wayback Machine, Nazis burning books used to be their image. Now it's Black Block. Yeah, so, Lou, if you just take that homepage right there, I'd just like to learn a little bit about Ace 2018. Could we learn something about that, please? You just want the closure of conference? Oh, I just want to learn something about the conference.
Starting point is 00:05:25 That's all. Yeah, we went to the page. We want to know about the conference, what's happening there. Here we are on the homepage. Just tell me what's happening on the homepage. During the Advances in Computer Entertainment Technology Conference. Okay. Well, the ACE 2018, the 15th International Conference on Advances in Computer Entertainment Technology, becomes the first academic computer science conference in history to be shut down by fanatic left-wing anti-free speech protests.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Oh, dear. In a tragic moment in the history of human civilization and the trampling of academic free speech, an academic conference, ACE 2018, the 15th International Conference on Advances in Computer Entertainment Technology, which was to have been held at the University of Montana, USA, has been forced to shut down by anti-free speech groups comprising of mainly academic
Starting point is 00:06:15 researchers who have been acting in a fascistic manner. Okay. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. The anti-free speech. The anti-free speech. Let's hear them out, Lemon, who's hearing this for the first time. I'm hearing this for the first time.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, I can hear you out. The anti-free speech, quote-unquote, fascist-style mob have been led by Yoram Chisik of Universidade de Madeira. Leif Opperman, Fraunhofer Institute of Applied Information Technology, FIT, and Joseph A. Brown, Innopolis University. Their vicious anti-free vendetta started off with a hate-filled anti-Zionist attack against Dr. David Levy. Okay. All right. So now they're anti-Zionist too. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Sure. The ACE steering committee member. Next, they attacked the ACE 2018 keynote speaker, Mr. Stephen K. Banning. Yay! On what grounds? On what grounds? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:07:28 There's a lot of names here. Yeah, you can skip those now. You skip those names. The words they were using in their email and their social postings about Ace committee members and the Ace 2018 keynote speaker include sicko, child abuser, tool. As in the pedophiles. Pedophiles. P-D-O-E-philes. People are really into mushy peas.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yes. Fraudsters, scammers, criminals, horse shit, monkey, prick, Nigerian 419 scammer, droof trafficker, pig, twat, scumbag, six millimeter nano penis, con man, fraudster again, monster, creepy, hag, criminal, et cetera. Et cetera. That's where you add the et cetera. There were also significant racist attacks on our esteemed committee members.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Prince Anekoale Ojomo, a highly qualified world economic formal global leader and awardee of the highly prestigious U.S. President Volunteer Service Gold Award. Simply because he is an African and Nigerian. Those things are the same. The anti-free speech group is hostile to the idea of free speech at academic conferences. They are hostile to the entire foundation of Western civilization. And then the next sentence. Ancient Greeks
Starting point is 00:08:50 were pioneers of free speech in Western culture. Their literature and education, blah, blah, blah. The ancient Greeks. So the ancient Greeks expanded West. Out of the horse's butthole. So you want me to read this however thing?
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you take however. However, the Ace Committee will not back down to the angry anti-free speech mobsters. Although almost all papers were withdrawn because the mobsters mentally violently bullied the authors with threats and black emails and social media posts. Black emails. What? You know, that commonly used phrase.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah, when I want to threaten people, I turn Gmail into night mode. Whoa. It's an option in Office 365 now. You can flag it as important or as threatening. Oh, it says, this is important. We will still carry on with our keynote speech by Mr. Stephen K. Banning. We will carry on in
Starting point is 00:09:51 an academic free speech forum and debate with our keynote speaker, Mr. Banning in the true sense of the Athenian forum. We will never let ourselves become burned like Nazi anti-free speech book burning. Oh, it's a metaphor. It's a metaphor with a metaphor on top
Starting point is 00:10:08 of it. Metaphorical book burning and then metaphorically we are the metaphorical books being burned. We subscribe. I'm going to skip some of these things and then their heroes are Socrates, Erasmus and so on. We subscribe to the Freedom Manifesto of the quote-unquote Free Speech Now
Starting point is 00:10:28 organization. No, actually, I'd only just skip that part. Okay. Yeah. Alright. We will never let ourselves be, where was I? Oh, our commitment to free speech is mighty and unbreakable in the spirit of famous free speech heroes such as Socrates, Erasmus,
Starting point is 00:10:44 John Milton, Voltaire, John Stuart Mill, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Professor Timothy Garten, etc. So the etc. there means that you're saying free speech heroes such as Socrates, Erasmus, John Milton, Voltaire, John Stuart Mill, and Steve Bannon. Like, that's your list, right? And Steve Bannon, of course. Okay, yeah, yeah. We subscribe to the Freedom Manifesto, the free speech now organization.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Freedom of speech must never be restricted. No state bans, no hate speech legislation, no libel laws, no restrictions of the press, no mob pressure on people to conform to modern orthodoxies, which is what the mob is all about, for attacks on freedom of speech do not only commit the bad enough offense of preventing someone from saying what he believes, they also reduce the rest of us to the level of children through blocking our eyes and ears, degrading our moral autonomy, stifling truth-seeking, and elevating stupidity over enlightenment. This is honestly the first time I've ever seen somebody explicitly demand the right to commit hate speech.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yes. It must be nice to be Canadian. No one must restrict the right to hate speech. So as a little bit of an explanation here, because I have researched this, and so the act of censorship that happened here
Starting point is 00:12:13 was that this conference had a whole bunch of invited speakers that were going to go to this conference in Montana and speak about their various subjects. And then they hired the keynote speaker of Steve Bannon, at which point all of the speakers dropped out.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So that is a violation. They were bullied out by Nazis, obviously. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they dropped out. It wasn't like the venue shut them down. They dropped out. Their speakers dropped out, which was a violation of free speech.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah. Now, did Steve give his speech? No, the conference never happened. So the conference has been. It's yet to happen. Well, no, no, no, no, no. The conference has been canceled. But then, Lou, if you'll just scroll down to that bold part there.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Oh, all the way down here. Okay. Due to the condition of the force majeure specified in ACE terms and conditions, and furthermore, all funds have already been expended for deposits, fees, marketing, etc. Ace has made a huge financial loss and no refunds are possible. And then, yeah, so then they have a terms and conditions, which was clearly written afterwards, which says, in the event that the conference is prevented from carrying out its obligations as a result of any cause beyond its control, such as,
Starting point is 00:13:46 but not limited to, acts of God, substantial protests, people being babies. Yeah. So, if you start a conference and then charge a bunch of money, and then don't hold a conference, and then hire a Nazi as a speaker, and then charge a bunch of money. And then don't hold a conference.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Hire a Nazi as a speaker. Right. And then say, no refunds! Then you get laid. That's a brilliant business model. Yeah. Fucking kudos. It's better than that Firefly EDM festival that guy got in trouble for.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So can we assume that this was all just like a weird misunderstanding and like and like that you know maybe a bunch of the other people involved in this are sort of responsible and good people well i think that's uh definitely a theory that may prove out um okay and so in order to find out can't wait to find out yeah whether if we're gonna find out whether or not uh the people involved in this thing might also have uh suspicious um uh motives yeah so uh so steve bannon of course was the uh invited uh ace 2018 speaker um the invited um uh keynote speaker uh for 2017 a name that that showed up earlier.
Starting point is 00:15:05 As a steering committee member. As a steering committee member, which is then the guy that should deliver the keynote. So, yeah, so he's a guy by the name of Dr. David Levy. Come quats up. If you can tell me just a little bit about Dr. David Levy. Can robots and humans make babies together? No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:15:28 The answer's no. Oh, well, okay. That's a good keynote. Good answer. I don't know. That apparently is what the internet wants to tell me about Speaker Dr. David Levy. Hi, I'm crazy. Here's my opinion. I mean, all
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'm picturing is like, you know, that video of like the ketchup bottle with the arms that spin around that squirts the ketchup onto the plate like that. Under the hot dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. That. But mostly under the table.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. Yeah. That's I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about. Am I reading about this? Yeah, tell me about Dr. David Levy. Dr. David Levy graduated from St. Andrews University, Scotland in 1967, and then taught practical classes in computer programming at Glasgow University for four years, before moving into the world of business and professional chess playing and writing.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He wrote more than 30 books on chess, won the Scottish Championship, Great, great. And then never played chess again. And it was 21 years before he was defeated in a match by a forerunner of IBM's Deep Blue program. Since 1977, David has been involved in the development of any chess playing and other programs for consumer electronic products. Unrelated to that, he fucks Barbies. I mean, does he fuck the computer while he's played chess with it? He's created many fuckable chess programs. play chess with it? He's created many fuckable chess programs.
Starting point is 00:17:06 David's interest in artificial intelligence expanded beyond computer games and other areas of AI, including human-computer conversation, and in 1997, he led the team that won the Loebner Prize competition in New York. He won the Loebner Prize again in 2009. His 50th book, Love and Sex
Starting point is 00:17:22 with Robots, was published in November 2007, shortly after he was awarded a PhD by the University of Maastricht for his thesis entitled Intimate Relationships with Artificial Partners. Since then, he has continued his research into this subject and other aspects of the future of robotics. Ah, the future. future um david is president of the international computer games association and co-chairman of the international congress of love and sex with robots yes yes they fuck under robert's rules of order co-chairman they need to it's called a threesome baby his hobbies include classical music and playing poker, not chess or robot fucking.
Starting point is 00:18:09 He lives in London with his wife and their cat, not a robot cat to have sex with. Doesn't specify. So that's that talk that Dr. David Levy gave in 2017. Here's another speech that he did. Kumquats, I'm just going to paste that title in. So this is something I just found on YouTube. Kumquats, what's another
Starting point is 00:18:33 talk that he gave? Sex with robots? Yes! I assume the band. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So another thing that Dr. David Levy has done is this Indiegogo campaign. Oh, no. So it's an Indiegogo campaign where he and his uh raised a quarter of a million pounds this was this guy
Starting point is 00:19:10 no a half a million pounds oh sorry sorry sorry sorry half a million pounds oh my god to to create a uh handheld version of the uh zx spectrum um so yeah it raised a total of 512 uh 790 uh pounds um and so those people that uh funded that project um then received nothing at all i i heard about this i didn't realize it was a robot fucker I didn't realize it was a robot fucker. He likes to fuck robots and also fuck people's dreams of playing this device. A Steve Bannon worshipping robot fucker. Oh, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, like, if you just go Google around for, like, worst crowdfunding debacles of all time, this is high at the top of the list and also he fucks robots uh yeah i also found uh i think i i hope i have it uh but uh somebody did a uh a um petition um to uh theresa may uh to arrest dr david levy oh yes uh yes uh we want to see uh this was a change.org petition um that says we want to see suzanne martin david levy and and floggle prosecuted for fraud and theft uh it has uh 500 signatures um so theresa may hasn't yet acted on it i don't think she has anything else. She doesn't have a lot on her plate these days. No, no. I think, I mean, well, but the thing is she could probably use the PR.
Starting point is 00:20:51 You know what I mean? She's too busy using her VX or ZX Spectrum Vega to play all those awesome games. That's true. Okay. So that was David Lee. We're going to learn a little bit more about some of the other speakers. So one of those is a guy by the name of M the Movement. So Boots, I'm just going to post this bio here.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Sure. M the Movement spoke at ACE in, I believe, 2015, perhaps. Can you tell me a little bit about M the Movement? Sure. Ooh. That's a tough start on this one. Mm-hmm. Simplicio Michael Luis Aziz Herrera, a.k.a. M,
Starting point is 00:21:41 known simply as M, Simplicio Michael Luis Aziz Herrera, was born in Manila to a Chinese... He's known as this thing anyway, the other name. ...was born in Manila to a Chinese-slash-Spanish father and a Spanish-slash-Filipino mother. Due to his own cultural diversity, M. recognized the importance of creating harmony despite differences. M. believes you can wrap your body with the fabric of thought. That's in quotes, fabric of thought. That's cheap.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And has therefore chosen fashion as the platform to communicate his philosophy. Beginning shortly after graduating from FIDM in 1996, M became the head graphic designer for Carl Connie Jean, the godfather of hip-hop slash urban fashion. Okay, if you said so. I mean, that's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Okay. Yep. Where he traveled to China and coordinated production and development, simultaneously instructing fashion and graphic design at FIDM for three years before he relocated to Germany, where he was offered creative director position in 2002, designing and managing for a team of 10 designers. Is this all one sentence? Well, no.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It pretty much is. Catering to corporate brands such as Puma BMW. Wait, Puma BMW is one brand? Yeah, it's Puma hyphen BMW. They had a hyphenated marriage. Yeah, make rubber cars and fast shoes. Hyphen BMW. They had a hyphenated marriage. Yeah. Make rubber cars and fast shoes. For the Formula One racers.
Starting point is 00:23:11 In 2005, M began the movement. The movement. Yep. The movement. Okay. A luxury designer streetwear line for men and women and denims, cashmere sweaters, fashion knit tops, shirtings, intimates, and accessories. Somebody feel free to make fun of me for thinking shirtings is funny.
Starting point is 00:23:35 With an emphasis on eco-friendly fabrics with humanitarian efforts, his clientele have included Britney Spears, the Black Eyed Peas, and more recently, Carly Rae Jepsen, singer of hit Call Me Maybe. Oh, excuse me. No respect to your audience. Bobby Brown. Oh, boy. Famed rapper Tiga. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:57 The movement is now the hottest eco-friendly designer streetwear brand on the west coast of the United States. Today, at 39 years of age, M has received a plethora of press. Several awards was included in several Best T-Shirt Graphics 2004 and Best Fashion Trims 2008 and How to Run a Fashion Company 2008. Oh, that M-Movement. Yeah, that M-Movement. Does he know that means poop? Do they know? Bowel and the movement. I'm pooping a movement, dog.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Industry Books and is currently serving as a member of the advisory board for the Bachelor of Business program at FIDM Los Angeles. The journey doesn't end there. Stay tuned. So, Kumquat Sop, here I am on M the Movement's website. Can you tell me some of the products available on this website? Oh, yes. I'm on the product category. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. We've got seven. Seven results product category. Oh. Yeah. We've got seven. Seven results for products. We've got a cashmere scarf for $150. Fair. We've got an eco gold
Starting point is 00:25:18 pendant for $3,500. I don't know what makes it eco. Maybe it's free-range gold. We've got a guacho-style belt for $65. Oh my god, you're right! which as far as i can tell looks like um a bunch of poop with an m in the middle appropriate um we've got movement watch skeleton series which might be the only clever named thing in here i guess um we've got yeah and that and that is Inquirer for Price.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Oh, yes. We've got the Movement Travel Jacket for $80, featuring a fetching fellow giving us a look. We've got the scarf button-down. I don't know if that's a scarf with buttons
Starting point is 00:26:22 or if it's... Tie scarf button-down. Maybe a shirt is's a scarf with buttons or if it's really one of those shirts. Tie scarf button down. Maybe a shirt is just a scarf that you wear. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Look at it. If you look at the product, the scarf button down is a shirt with a built-in scarf. Oh, it's like a dickie. It's like a reverse dickie.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. It's a shirt that has its own scarf on it. It's attached. Wow. If you click on the picture, it just goes to that has its own scarf on it it's attached if you click on the picture it just goes to that picture alone it does you don't have to lose you don't have to lose your scarf yeah i mean it's like for all of us you know missing our umbilical cords it's also if you read the description it's made for any occasion that's adding a little extra any you can wear this to anything yeah that's absolutely true and then we've got my personal favorite
Starting point is 00:27:08 the python zip high tops for $2,200 which seemed to be a black snakeskin sort of high tops with a zip yeah sort of a Chuck Taylor like with zippers on it yeah and then they say
Starting point is 00:27:24 they have the signature face logo, but I think that just means it says the movement on them. On the inner soul. Yeah. They are great for the night out or for some urban exploring during the day, which means you walk around a city that says poop on it. a city that says poop on it. So before we move on, I checked out the form you have to fill in to inquire for
Starting point is 00:27:52 pricing on their watch. And it asks for the standard fields that one would ask for personal information that you need to provide when just asking for a price on a product, which is your first name, your last name, your email address, and then your Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook IDs.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So I have a question. Did you look at the T-shirts that they sell in the Love More section? Oh, no. I think it has a picture of the movement on this shirt, the Love More Classic Edition. Oh, that's brilliant yeah yeah i'm gonna sell t-shirts with my face so this looks like saddam hussein with a mullet well uh hey lemon so i have a new idea for some f plus merch yeah um i think you should just have t-shirts with my
Starting point is 00:28:40 face on them yeah okay that sounds good that sounds good yeah just that and then yes hello underneath it yeah it'll be two thousand two hundred dollars so i have a question are are we sure that m just isn't short for will i am i mean it might be like an elaborate chris Gaines kind of alter ego kind of thing, I suppose. Because this sounds like something Will.i.am would do. Well, I think, I mean, as somebody that loves brands, which as you know, I love brands. Yeah. That's how I introduce people. I'm a brand beast, I think is the term.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Oh, brand beast. Yeah, I just love brands. And I think that one of the things that's important in a good brand is the sort of partnerships that they have. So if you'll scroll down to the bottom of this website, what are the partners of M the movement? Oh, we've got we've got House of M like a German house. I presume that's his burgeoning designer sausage line. House of M. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It was a really good Marvel crossover series, too. We've got mtheuniversity.com, which I don't want to know about. We've got mthemovementkings.com, which presumably it's who took the biggest poop. A rate my poop site? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah poopernot.com um and then we've got kings.com slash sg which is singapore singapore yeah uh well that sounds right yeah i think so i think so um which it looks like Kings is, oh, man, I don't even, I don't know. It's just a bunch of stock photography. I have no idea what's going on with this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. It's a website with no features. Yeah, so that's another innovator in this. We're going to learn about another one. In this, we're going to learn about another one. So I was looking at some of the speakers, and one of the speakers invented a product called the HugV. So if you'll allow, I'm going to just tell you a little bit about the HugV. Please do. Great.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Please do. Great. So Advanced Telecommunications Research Institute International, or ATR, because, you know, has developed a human presence transfer media called the HugV that enables users to strongly feel the presence of remote partners while interacting with them. Through research and development of other robots, such as the Telenoid, which we'll get to in a second, we have found that hugging and holding these robots during an interaction is an effective way for strongly feeling the existence of a partner. HugV is an epic-making communication medium that can strongly transfer the presence of interaction partner despite its simple shape. The recently developed HugV is a hug pillow
Starting point is 00:31:42 type of communication media for talking in a hugging state. It's a communication media for talking in a hugging state. Is that like a dry state or a wet state? Well, it starts out dry. Oh, good. Its body is mainly a cushion that is formed similar to the telenoid and elfoid to effectively convey a sense of human existence. While holding it close to the body, users
Starting point is 00:32:10 speak to people in far locations through their cell phones, inserted into a pocket in its head. Moreover, it is equipped with a vibrator inside that generates vibration. Okay, now I'm on board.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Okay. All right. Now I get where it's at. For reproduction of heartbeats that can effectively convey the human likeness and human emotions, these heartbeat vibrations can vary in synchronization with the partner's tone, strengthen the presence feeling originated by the voice. For example, when the vibrations of the heartbeat change in line with the voice volume of the This thing looks like Pit Pat. It sure does.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It does look like Pit Pat. Yeah, so the product product is for those of you not by the way the document is available on thefpl.us the product is a sort of formless kind of oversized cabbage patch doll
Starting point is 00:33:19 it's like a thalidomide baby oh yeah but then you hug it and then you feel Thalidomide baby. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But then you hug it. But then you hug it and then you feel close to your partner, which of course is exciting. Who is also hugging a thing. You're feeling the same experience somehow by doing the same thing. Yeah. And then there's a product that was similar to that that has a problem in funding.
Starting point is 00:33:47 They had a funding problem. It was called the Telenoid. Is that like remote dominoes? Ha! Yeah. Avoid the Telenoid. Yeah. The Telenoid was
Starting point is 00:34:05 basically yeah exactly the telenoid was basically the same idea except for instead of being a formless pillow oh god it was a it was a little legitimate no no no
Starting point is 00:34:18 no no no this looks like that thing that's like oh no I scrolled down. No. Is that a video? No. You know what I'm talking about? This is the greatest flowchart I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Oh, God. Oh, internet is involved. Tellanoid R4. Tellanoid R4, are you looking at? So, the Tellanoid R4 just flowchart. Jesus Christ. You've got your oval and it says intranet. Yeah, it says intranet and it points an arrow at the horror thing.
Starting point is 00:34:53 There's an arrow and a picture of a lady with it propped up on her groin while she's lying down. To be fair, that is the most accurate diagram I've ever seen explaining the internet. So there's that. And then a picture of a dude playing Dota on his laptop. That is the most accurate diagram I've ever seen explaining the internet. So there's that. And then a picture of a dude playing Dota on his laptop. Also through the internet. Jesus. Sorry, League of Legends.
Starting point is 00:35:22 No, I don't work there anymore. Okay. Fucking Dota. Good. I'm glad you don't uh yeah there's uh uh there's also uh unrelated to this another speaker at this thing um had a uh pillow it was a a pillow that would um uh cure autism um but anyway um okay okay but anyway we're going to be looking at uh another speaker uh and uh sort of thought leader and uh he is a guy um by the name of uh wait it was a guy by the name of uh adrian chiok uh so i'm going to tell you a little bit about uh, so we're going to go to his page on the Imagineering Institute.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Um, and, uh, Adrian Shiok, uh, I'm assuming that's the right pronunciation, but I don't care that much. Um, uh, Adrian David Shiok is the director of the Imagineering Institute, uh, Malaysia and chair professor of pervasive computing at Citi University of London he is the founder and director of the Mixed Reality Lab in Singapore he was formerly full professor
Starting point is 00:36:34 at Kaio University Graduate School of Media Design and associate professor of National University of Singapore he has previously worked in real time systems soft computing and embedding computing in Mitsubishi Electric Research Labs in Japan. He has been working on research covering mixed reality, human-computer interfaces, wearable computers, and ubiquitous computing, fuzzy systems, embedded systems, and power electronics. He has successfully attained
Starting point is 00:37:02 approximately $20 million in funding for externally funded projects in the area of wearable computers and mixed reality for Media Development Authority, Nike, National Oil Well Varco, Defense Science Technology Agency, Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Communications and Arts, National Arts Council, Singapore Science Centre, and Haojiang Primary School. The research output has included numerous high-quality academic journal pages,
Starting point is 00:37:28 research awards, keynote speeches, international exhibitions, and numerous government demonstrations to government presidents and prime ministers, broadcast television worldwide, broadcasts on his research, and hundreds of international press media articles. So this is... He's surprisingly a little less open about the fact that he's the other co-chair member of the Love and Sex with Robots Committee. He is.
Starting point is 00:37:53 He is. But he's got some products that he wants to tell you about. And one of those products is the Kissinger. Lou, can you tell me something about Imagineering Institute's Kissinger? Oh, I'd love to. Great. The Kissinger, the world's first mobile kiss messenger. Plug into your phone and give your loved one a kiss over the internet.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Kissinger can sense your kiss and transmit realistic kissing sensation to your partner in real time. You can also feel the force of your, on your lips. When your partner kisses you back, share an intimate moment with your friends and families while chatting with them on your phone. Experience the internet kissing. Kissing is the most direct and effective way to express your feelings and love. With Kissinger, you can kiss your loved ones even when you are physically apart. How it works. High precision force sensors are
Starting point is 00:39:06 embedded under the silicon lip to measure the dynamic forces at different parts of your lips during a kiss. The device sends this data to your phone, which transmits it to your partner over the internet in real time. Miniature linear actuators are used to reproduce these forces on your partner's lips creating a realistic kissing sensation. Kissinger provides a two-way interaction just like a real kiss. You can feel your partner's kiss on your lips
Starting point is 00:39:35 when they kiss you back. You definitely won't put your dick up against this thing. I don't know if you would. I guess what won put people put their dick up against kissinger ios i think it's only on ios sorry android why would they call it kissinger i mean because when you think of erotic kiss you think of henry kissinger i mean but that in in the in the in the same way of like sort of spontaneously retconning or inventing
Starting point is 00:40:07 a term like Santorum, that's a pretty good one to, like, associate Kissinger with. Like, if this thing goes big and people assume that, you know, that's pretty good. But this is, this line here is, chat with your friends using the Kissinger app and send them a kiss to let you know they miss you. Instead of just being like, hey, I miss you. Here, put your mouth up to your phone. Well, no, no, not put your mouth up to the phone. So what I would say is, you know, Lou,
Starting point is 00:40:33 we don't live in the same state. We live apart from each other. I miss you sometimes. Sure. So what I would say to you is, Lou, I miss you. Please attach this flashlight to your phone with a giant silicone pad on the front of it. Yeah. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Press your lips up to the silicone pad. I will do the same. And it'll feel like... You might want to wipe the dog hair off at first. It'll just feel like we're mushing our lips together across the internet. Yeah, like I'm a person on the go. Like I have a thing to attach my phone to my motorcycle handlebars when I'm working. Right, of course. So presumably I would put the flashlight case on my phone and then put it on my motorcycle. And then if you needed to message me on my way to work, I could make out with my –
Starting point is 00:41:21 Reach down and kiss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's convenient. It down and kiss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's convenient. It's... Yeah. It's convenient.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I want to see this thing working. Well, so, Lou, I have a follow-up question there. How did their Indiegogo campaign go? Oh, let me just open up my Indiegogo campaign, because I invested quite a bit of money on this. Are you sure? I don't know if you did. Oh, I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:52 This campaign was not great. There's one update. So the amount raised, they were trying to raise $500,000. It was a flexible goal. $500,000. It was a flexible goal. It was a flexible goal. Flexible. They're located in Malaysia. Sure. Great
Starting point is 00:42:12 place. And they raised $0. They're in prototypes. It looks like this actually means they refunded everybody that did donate. Oh, okay. Oh, really? That seems off-brand. Okay. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's really off-brand for these guys. This is a good... Oh, this gif... I have to save the gif. Yeah. The gif of this woman kissing is the right reaction.
Starting point is 00:42:44 She's like, bleh! It looks like the world's shittiest vape. Yeah. A vape that delivers kisses? It sounds like a no. Yeah, but if you want to learn more about it, you can go to the Indiegogo page. You can watch a video of a lady showing that there's...
Starting point is 00:43:00 You open this thing up and there's three things inside it. Oh, I didn't know the... Did we read this? The Imagineering Institute is a quantum step research lab with a mission to invent the future of the internet. Oh, well, they're doing that. They're doing that with products like this one. Boots, tell me about the Moody Hoody. You mean the Moody Hoodie? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Tell me about either the Moody Hoody or the Moody Hoodie. It's the Moody Hoodie. It's the Moody Hoodie. It's a homonym, but not a homophone. Sort of. No, it's not. It's a visual rhyme. Yeah, I don't know how you... whatever. Moody Hoodie. Moody Hoodie.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Moody Hoodie. It's a hoodie that can emit fragrance from the device inside it. I have one of those already. It is a combination between fashion and technology. We mounted a scentee module. What? S-C-E-N-T-E-E
Starting point is 00:43:58 inside the vest section. Scented? Yeah, I'm the center, you're the scentee. A scentee. Now lay down. Inside the vest section of the hoodie to emit a scented vapor on demand by pressing a button that located in the pocket of the hoodie. Very inconsistent about whether we
Starting point is 00:44:18 capitalize the ancient hoodie when we're just talking about the word hoodie. When you press the button you can see vapor emitting from the vest of the hoodie through the Scenty module. Scenty is the world's first phone attachment that produces scent on demand by using an app smartphone in parentheses for no reason. The main objective of this project is to lift the mood slash spirit of the
Starting point is 00:44:41 person who wears the hoodie and the people surround as the scent vapor is coming as the scent vapor is coming out from the hoodie. Previous studies show that certain fragrances can influence people's mood and emotions. From the application side, this hoodie can be used for aromatherapy. Further,
Starting point is 00:45:01 further, when you want to attract someone, you can wear the hoodie. Now we're spelling it H-O-O-D-I-E. Well, now it's the JavaScript Database API. Okay. Wow. Hey, we got a nerd in this podcast. Yeah, you do. You can wear the hoodie with a nice scent that can make people feels good when
Starting point is 00:45:25 they are near you. The colors of the hoodie and its inner lining was specifically chosen to create some form of mood for this person who wears the hoodie. Now with a Y again. In the future, we plan to make moody hoodie a whole lot slimmer.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Wait, how bulky is it? Whatever. We won't talk about how bulky it is now. It's just fucking bulky. Attaching an array of much flatter scentees. All the wiring will be replaced with conductive threads. We also want to make the hoodie connect through Bluetooth to the smartphone. Yeah, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Why not? Sorry, to the smartphone. So the person who wears the hoodie could always activate the release of the scented vapor through the smart phone. Wait, it's not connected through Bluetooth to the smart phone right now? It sure isn't.
Starting point is 00:46:16 No. We also want to... So it's controlled by the app. Like serial port. Oh, right. Of course. Yeah. RJ-11. We hope that it will be able to bring the clothing industry to a totally different level and become a very profitable, marketable product in the not-so-distant future. I do like the idea that the scent-ee could be controlled
Starting point is 00:46:46 by another person. I could have my smell slave be going through a day wondering what's the next thing that she's going to smell. And pancakes!
Starting point is 00:47:03 So I give pancakes so so i i give i give this hoodie to lemon and he wears it around and then i like send him a text message and he yeah like by kiss smells like something like so there's like a there's it's like one of those sharper image like aromatherapy things that's like in the pocket that like squirts out of his hoodie uh one of the other things uh uh listed in the uh projects of the Imagineering Institute was uh this project right here also by uh Adrian David Shiioke, of course the sort of founder and chief Imagineer of the Imagineering Institute.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Boots, what's this project called? Oh, this project? Yeah. The project is called Robots and Intimacies. Love and Sex with Robot Series. This is a project.
Starting point is 00:48:05 By Chamari Idarisinji and Adrian David Chiok. When David Levi first introduced the subject of love and sex with robots, he became a provocateur of a conversation that spread from morality to the rights of robots. What? To be fucked. With the rapid development in artificial intelligence functions, love and sex with robots is expected to be a reality in the near future. However, the question remains, how much humans understand and accept intimacies with robots?
Starting point is 00:48:43 We argue that perceptions of human-robot interactions, HRI, have a certain impact on how individuals comprehend intimacies with robots. We are proposing a series of studies to determine female perception and... Do they even see? I don't know. Do they even see? I don't know. And physiological responses to intimacy with robots. In the first stage, we will conduct a qualitative study on a group of females aged between 20 and 40 years to understand the perceptions of topics on HRI. The second stage will measure their physiological responses when touching an
Starting point is 00:49:25 asexual robot intimately. I'm here for the focus group. You're going to be... We're going to send a rover to establish contact with the group. Notice females. And study their perceptions. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I'm just touching an asexual robot intimately. What does that mean? Well, I don't want to know. Well, you know, it's a robot from being asexual. It's a robot that uses Tumblr. Using the electrodermal activities In the third stage The study will concentrate
Starting point is 00:50:11 On a qualitative study Where perception Of a certain Of What? Where a perception Of certain phenomenon Related to HRI
Starting point is 00:50:19 Is examined Vague It's a big secret Very secret This is I would give money To this Indiegogo Yeah examined. Vague. Very secret. I would give money to this Indiegogo. How much money would you give? Well, it depends on if I get a t-shirt or not.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, so we're just going to... Can we get Comquat to read just like a handful of the titles, the projects of the Imagineering Institute? Oh, that sounds great. Yeah, there's the whole projects page. And boy, Dr. David Chiok really, Adrian David Chiok, really has started a lot of projects. He's Imagineered a lot of projects. Kumquat, do you think you could read some of those
Starting point is 00:51:06 projects, please? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why, hello. We've got a picture book for visually impaired children. Yeah. Sure. We've got AI team projects. We've got augmented reality project. We've got
Starting point is 00:51:22 a digital smell interface. Oh. Probably part of the moody hoody breakout group. What's right after that one? What's right after digital smell interface? Well, that's Dr. Robot. It was his second
Starting point is 00:51:43 breakout game that had the robot throwing pills at things. We've got – Wait, wait, wait. I just want to tell you just a tiny little bit about Dr. Robot, which is – because Victor should be worried. He's about to be unemployed. Physician-patient ratio in low to medium income countries as low as uh one uh to 3,500 right that's not great you need a better ratio than that so why don't you get a cheap robot that does literally everything a doctor would do oh my god the doctor robot is a project based on
Starting point is 00:52:21 a deep learning algorithm for medical diagnosis based on the past 500 livers i've seen this is a project based on a deep learning algorithm for medical diagnosis. Based on the past 500 livers I've seen, this is a liver. We've definitely learned that deep learning AI is really, so far, really successful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like your spleen will come out looking like a deep dream JPEG. I put in all my information and now I see a dog face.
Starting point is 00:52:50 And yeah, we, we've also got the electric taste interface. Yeah. I love that part of the Muppets. Yep. We've got in dash visible island uh in that's where you go to be in a visible island in the visible in in dash visible island colon shareable multi-sensory mix
Starting point is 00:53:20 experiential reality okay so it looks like a boring board game. That looks great. Uh-huh. I'm interested in this magnetic dining table and magnetic food. Yeah. We've got, yeah, we covered Kissinger. We've got Meeting Points, Ubermensch, and Magnanimous.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I remember the day that Ubermensch met Magnanimous It's a whole dinner with Andre kind of thing It was the downfall of the King of Monsters movies We've got Robot Teacher That's
Starting point is 00:53:57 gotta be a good one You can teach the Mr. Robot Doctor We've got Smell vs. Pain Fight! Mr. Robot Doctor. We've got Smell vs. Pain. Fight! A battle as old as time. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:16 We've got, you know, what most of the internet is about, is sonic metaphors. Yeah. Great. And we've also got the Yoda Teacher Bot Project. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I had a section in the document where it was some tweets from Adrian David Chioke, but it's basically just like angry Bannon retweets and general right-wing trolling.
Starting point is 00:55:03 So we're just going to skip past all that because I want to loop back around to the ACE 2018 website where if you go to the papers, the papers section is broken into two sections. The first is a orange table, and that is a list of accepted papers. Then underneath that is a significantly longer red table that is withdrawn papers, which are all of the proposals that have been withdrawn after the Steve Bannon thing. that have been withdrawn after the Steve Bannon thing. But there's an interesting link there that you might be interested in. So there's one that says co-located conference. Lou, if you'll just click on that link there in the header of ACE 2018 and tell me about the co-located conference. Oh, co-located conference. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:46 International Congress on Love and Sex with Robots. Yay! I mean, okay, that's a clever title. Like, that's just... I like the graphic is awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fourth International Congress of Love and Sex with Robots will be held at the university
Starting point is 00:56:06 of montana 13th and 14th of december 2018 that was yesterday i know i wonder if it happened uh the past few years have witnessed a strong upsurge in interest in academic discussion on the personal aspects of human relationships with artificial partners. This Congress provides an excellent opportunity for academics and industry professionals to present and discuss their innovative work and ideas in the Academic Symposium. That sounds great. That sounds great. So you'll see that there's a link to loveandsexwithrobots.org. Go!
Starting point is 00:56:44 So you'll see that there's a link to loveandsexwithrobots.org. Go. Lou, if you just click that link to the Fourth International Congress on Love and Sex with Robots and tell me. Let's see what their web design looks like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go to their website. And if you'll tell me just a little bit about this conference, get us excited about wanting to go. Okay. Well, the number one uh piece of information
Starting point is 00:57:06 is postponement of conference we very much regret that due to force majeure circumstances beyond our control has been necessary to postpone the fourth international congress of sex and love no no that's not what you did the fourth international congress on love and sex throwouts what what you did to the Fourth International Congress on Love and Sex with Robots. What did you do to the Fourth International Congress? Oh, we pot... I'm sorry. We necessary to pot poncy. Yeah, you pot poncy. Pot poncy the Fourth International Congress of Love and Sex with Robots. Hey, S, why'd you get all the way over there?
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's a very specific form of bad accounting. Pot poncy something. Oh, man. Hold on. The Congress had been due to take place at the University of Montana in Missoula alongside the 2018 Advances in Computing Entertainment Conference, ACE, when it was announced
Starting point is 00:57:54 that one of the keynote speakers' talks at ACE was to be given by Steve Bannon on the subject of employment opportunities for minorities in the computing entertainment industry. Because who better to speak of that? Because he felt they were too many. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Somebody who was both a minority and involved in the computing entertainment industry. Right, right, right. It was necessary to cancel the conference. Oh, well. Since the arrangements were being made for both conferences were inextricably intertwined, we've had no alternative but to postpone the Congress for Love and Sex with Robots. The fourth International Congress of Love and Sex with Robots will now take place just over 12 months later in Las Vegas. During the period of the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo in January 2012.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Well done. It's where it belongs. We finally got a happy ending. Yeah, exactly. I think this was written by, of course, Dr. David Levy. Oh, Dr. David Levy. But, you know, these are a group of people that will not give up. They will not be down-trodden. They will not be pot-ponced.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They will not be pot-ponced. They will not be pot-ponced by the snowflake liberals. And so that's why they started the Athenian Parisia Free Speech Forum. That's right. The Athenian Parisia Free Speech Forum. It is a forum about free speech and how wonderful free speech is. speeches um and it's got speakers such as uh well organizing chair or sorry organ glides gling chair uh adrian david shiok um it also has the exact same wordpress templates as the other two sites we're looking at today it sure does um and uh and uh the keynote speaker a guy you might be interested in, the keynote speaker is a guy by the name of Stephen Bannon.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Wow. So, yeah, so this is going to be a really good conference. I know. I know those other two conferences didn't go well. And Dr. A and David Cho. Third time's the charm. Third time's the charm. Wait, wait, wait. So this is taking place in Athens?
Starting point is 01:00:34 It very well might be. I don't know where the location is. Where is this taking place? It's being held in Montana, the University of Montana. Oh! Oh, it is! Oh, it is, actually. Yes, you're right. It's held in Montana. The University of Montana. Probably. Oh! Oh, it is! Two days ago. Yes, you're right. It's held in Montana. Yeah, so the Atheism Parisia Free Speech Forum.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I'm real excited about this. I know you had a bumpy road to get here. But, Lou, if you'll tell me about the Atheism Parisia Free Speech Forum. Where is that? Sorry, it's right here. Just that front.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Just the beginning of it. Yeah. Just the very beginning of that. Just tell me about this free speech forum. Postponement due to the unavailability of Stephen. Mr. Stephen Bannon. This avail is postponed until further notice.
Starting point is 01:01:20 God. Oh, no. Then the. So now he's unavailable well there can be no free speech without Steve Bannon obviously everybody else speaking about it
Starting point is 01:01:34 is not having free speech just you know if he's not free to speak then there's no free speech you can't do the conference because Steve Bannon's. You can't do the conference because Steve Bannon's there. You can't do the conference because Steve Bannon isn't there. Steve Bannon
Starting point is 01:01:53 is single-handedly responsible for ruining all of the events this last week at Montana, at the University of Montana at Missoula. It's true. It's true. Somebody please. The other thing that I like, so you scroll down, like I said,
Starting point is 01:02:07 you get to hear a little something about the speakers. But I think my favorite quote on this site is talking about how great this free speech forum that Steve Bannon is speaking at. And the quote is,
Starting point is 01:02:24 Is Cornel West saying nice things about Malcolm X? Huh? Yeah. Well, so it is. Okay. Yep. So what do you think we learned from this, F-Plus? I learned that I'm really excited to uh go check out what ace hardware
Starting point is 01:02:47 has i related want to know more about this telenoid yeah yeah uh yeah we were uh i saw as i was reading uh something else uh that there was uh some pictures of the Telenoid going around. Once again, thefpl.us. In addition to some other things, we'll have some pictures of the Telenoid. Including one slightly doctored by Lou. It is very terrible.
Starting point is 01:03:17 There's video. I found... It looks exactly like that claymation thing of the guy being like, are you looking at my butt? That's okay. Like that weird, you know. It's bad. It's a bad time.
Starting point is 01:03:34 It's horrifying. Don't put faces on blobs. Just don't do it. Now, back to the magnetic table. Yeah. Did you see the theory of the magnetic table is that by being able to dynamically change the weight of your utensil makes you enjoy the food better. What? Sorry. One more time?
Starting point is 01:03:58 What? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What? It says, it has been revealed that dynamic changes in the weight of cutleries influence the user's perception and enjoyment of the food. The heavier the weight of the utensil would enhance the flavor. In line with that, we present a new multi-sensory dining experience called Magnetic Dining Table and Magnetic Foods. Yeah. That makes sense. magnetic foods. So if I just put a spoon onto a kettlebell
Starting point is 01:04:26 and then my soup will be that much better? Well, you'll appreciate it more because you put so much more work into getting it into your mouth. Plus you're pumping iron. I tend to make my fork heavier by putting spaghetti on it, but
Starting point is 01:04:41 I don't know. Maybe that's too lo-fi for you. I don't know. I like the idea of being able to... I mean, the magnetic force is so strong that I can't even pull the utensils off the table. It's a form of weight control.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, now it's a workout. Now it's a workout. Well, I like that. I think I a workout. Well, it's a workout. Well, I like that. I think I'm going to go with the kettlebell instead. Our website is always THEFPL.us. We've got some merch and some pictures of really silly things. We've got a Twitter account for what it's worth.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Probably, probably shouldn't. Well, we'd know nobody should Well, no, nobody should. Nobody should. Nobody should. But you know what? I swear to God, every time I sign into my Asadon, I'm like, okay, we're going to...
Starting point is 01:05:34 Oh, God, this is boring. I don't want it to be, but it sure is. Maybe if you made your mouse and keyboard really heavy and put them on a magnetic desk, you would appreciate tweeting that much more. Well, just imagine if you put like metal thimbles on your fingers and then your table is magnetized. So the activity of typing would be so much more pleasurable that way. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:05:56 What I do is I built a little JavaScript app so that every keystroke there's like a particle effect so that it sort of just looks like I'm etching words into stone. Makes me feel very powerful and productive. That's all we got. Have a good whatever you're doing. Have a good... Whatever you're doing, have it good. Signing out.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Have a good job with the robot. Bye. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Sex robot. Sex robot. Coming to your town. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Sex robot. Sex robot. Do you want to get down? Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. Sex robot. I'm just obsessed with this sending smells to people. It just seems like a, like, oh man, you gotta smell this.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Like presumably that also, that also means growing out with technology. Yeah. It also, it also means like the per the person... The possessor of the phone, it's up to them to, like, restock with smell juice. Right, right. So if I send Boots fart smell once a day for a year
Starting point is 01:07:17 and then his phone, like, ran out of fart smell, he'd be like, oh, shit, I'm running low on ink toner, but ink toner fart smell. And then he had to, like, go refill I'm running low on ink toner, but ink toner fart smell. And then he had to go refill. I'm low on brown. Yeah. Well, so hopefully the machine itself would have master smells. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Or maybe you could have an umami. Whatever the CMYK of Otis is.

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