The F Plus - 339: Afterskin

Episode Date: December 22, 2020

The topic of male circumcision is a contentious one, but fortunely we're able to avoid all of that by simply reading the words of dullards who are doing horrific things to their own skin while co...mplaining about their mothers. This week, The F Plus would like to remind you foreskin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin is part of a man's sex organ.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Healy, say that joke that we liked earlier. You guys have to set me up. Oh, no, sorry, I got it. Some of this talk is Reddit and some of it isn't. That's the internet. That's the internet. We got a new one Crazy new one We got a song to sing Dance when you're cold and stretchy
Starting point is 00:00:32 Don't let you stretch You put your hands up and let your fingers fly And you stretch It's time to grow with the F+. Terrible Things, Red with Enthusiasm. In the room+. Terrible things read with enthusiasm. In the room tonight we have Boots Rangier. Hi. I've noticed that my penis smells terrible since I have reached flaccid coverage of the glands. Should I be worried?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Achilles Heeles. Another option for cleaning in there is to use a water pick for cleaning your teeth set on low pressure. Victor Laszlo. I'm determined to keep tugging until I get rid of this turkey neck and then eventually a foreskin. And Lemon. Don't even bother going to a doctor as most likely Bee will recommend circumcision. Tell him to fuck off! Hey, FBliss
Starting point is 00:01:34 Oh, hi Lemon Hey, only four of us tonight, huh? Okay, okay, well we can do that So Boots, Victor, Achilles, do you all feel like complete men? Yeah, mostly. Mostly? Now, tell me about mostly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Just sometimes maybe there's a little piece of me missing. A little piece of you missing. Have you ever thought about what pieces that might be? Nope. little piece of you missing. Have you ever thought about what piece that might be? Nope. Well, now I know the secret to your happiness, Victor. That's terrific. Well, I'm going to ruin your happiness
Starting point is 00:02:15 in several ways, and one of them is by telling you about the piece of you that has been missing. Victor? Victor? Victor. Have you thought about how you don't have your foreskin? How do you know I don't, Lemon?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Well, okay, so... I mean, I don't, but why do you know that? Well, okay, so, I mean, I joined your OnlyFans, and I was the one that... You didn't tip. What's that? You didn't tip. No, no, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:02:55 But... The tip was missing, that's true. Well, we're going to be going to a couple of different sites, but the first site that we're going to be going to a couple of different sites, but the first site that we're going to here is one called RestoringForeskin.org. RestoringForeskin.org is a very corporate-looking website. The logo is just like... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, that's what the logo is it was a very sad fish oh you can click it oh can you yeah so there's a uh there's an animated gif of a of a dick and then it says uh private messaging support progress pictures blogs so this is the place to find out about foreskin restoration. On the sidebar is a Google Calendar event schedule so that you can go to, for example, if you are in the Dallas area, there's a Sunday Dallas meetup for people who are looking for their foreskin.
Starting point is 00:04:09 There's a genital integrity ribbon that you could it's like a breast cancer ribbon yeah probably getting a magnet you stick on your car yeah yeah it's a pink on one side blue on the other uh so uh restoring foreskin is a social networking site for those men who wish to participate in a community devoted to foreskin restoration. We welcome those who wish to learn how to restore foreskin and undo the effects of circumcision. We also welcome those who wish to advocate against routine infant circumcision, or RIC, and seek ways of being an inactive. Intactivist. Intactivist. Intactivist. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's clever. We've covered that term before, actually. I probably had troubles with it last time, too. The public portion of restoringforskin.org includes a beginning guide to foreskin restoration. The public portion also includes links. You're welcome. And general information on foreskin restoration methods and devices, including a T-tape guide and manual tugging routines. I don't need your help with that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Also available is a foreskin restoration calendar showing meetings for Norm and other groups. There's some other stuff. And we want you to create an account. But Achilles Heeles, we're going to start here with some questions, which are, of course, frequently asked. And if you'll just lead us in here, please. So, why restore your foreskin?
Starting point is 00:05:45 My foreskin? Foreskin restoration is a process of growing new skin to simulate... Okay. Okay. Oh, I see. To simulate the intact foreskin. It is a long, drawn-out process that can take more than a year to accomplish. It is natural to wonder why a man would make the effort to restore something that was so easily and quickly removed from his penis.
Starting point is 00:06:16 The following are various reasons that men restore. I came up with this list of reasons based on my personal experience and from reading several forums and websites. The reasons below are frequently given by many men. Okay, and what are those reasons? Better sex. Face it. We all want better sex. And more sex.
Starting point is 00:06:38 No, we don't. I'm very tired. How dare you. Worse than less, please. The foreskin is part of a man's sex organ. Oh, wow. Very technical. Having a complete sex organ makes sex better for men.
Starting point is 00:06:57 It makes sex better for women, citation needed. And if women are happier with sex, they will want it more, which makes it better for men. Okay, great. Which, as we've established, is the most important part of it. Yeah. And out of the dock, please, if you wouldn't mind. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:15 More sensitive penis. The glands and inner foreskin are mucous membranes. This is the same type tissue as under your eyelid. Ooh, very sexy. It is a very thin covering that allows the nerves to sense fully. The glands and inner foreskin remnant are exposed when the penis is circumcised. As a defense mechanism, the glands and inner foreskin remnant develop a calloused layer of years of clothing and bed sheets rubbing against the tissue.
Starting point is 00:07:49 The calloused layer is keratin. The calloused layer insulates the nerves under the layer from being as sensitive and stimulated touching of the glands and inner foreskin. To get an idea of how sensitive the corona inner foreskin should be, lightly run your
Starting point is 00:08:04 fingertips across the back of your hand. All righty. Let's do it, everybody. Okay. Then lightly run your fingertips across the palm of your hand. All righty. Yep. Notice a difference?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yep. The palm is much more sensitive. Is it? The palms of your hand have Meisner's corpuscles, which are sensitive, fine-touched nerves. I knew I shouldn't have taken the foreskin off my hands. For religious reasons? That's the aft skin.
Starting point is 00:08:36 These are the same types of nerves that are in the inner foreskin and corona. Now lightly... Hey, everybody. Now lightly run a fingertip from the tip of your penis towards your scrotum. Okay, this is an unusual way to start the recording, but here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Welcome to the JOI of the end of the month. I love the idea of a really technical JOI. Run a fingertip from the tip of your penis towards your scrotum now run it back is your glands
Starting point is 00:09:12 frenulum and inner foreskin more sensitive than the shaft skin between the circ scar and your scrotum you don't have a scar come on if not
Starting point is 00:09:20 then foreskin restoration can help why the leather face did my circumcision, so... Well, you probably have a scar if you've rubbed your dick against the bedsheets so much there's a keratin layer. Wait, Victor, is that not normal? Is that not true for everybody? Well, I mean, we were all 13 once, but...
Starting point is 00:09:42 Really? I had the rainbow bright sheets bright sheets just couldn't get enough oh i thought you i thought you were going with rainbow dash he's older than you i'm older than you yeah yeah fair uh this is not a very important section but why sex why sex is better for women the answer is probably because it makes it better for men. The Journal of New Zealand Medical Association published a report that determined sex with a circumcised man contributed to vaginal dryness in women being sore after sex. That's an interesting...
Starting point is 00:10:21 Okay, I mean, is there any other thing that would cause moisture in that channel? I don't know. This report that I can't show you determined that vaginal dryness occurred more frequently as women aged. That's just a slam against old ladies, I guess. I don't know. That's an unsolvable problem, though.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, right. Mobile foreskin of intact men proved to be more stimulating for women and prevented women's natural lubrication from being pulled out of the vagina. I got it! Go, go, go, go, go! Start the car! Many restored men report that their wives and girlfriends notice a significant difference in sex after the men restored.
Starting point is 00:11:06 The use of lubrication during sex decreases, and often no extra lubrication is needed. Women that used to get sore from sex no longer feel discomfort afterward, or maybe tell you about it. Many would report the penis feels
Starting point is 00:11:21 different during penetration. Oh, that's different, she will say. They can feel the gliding action as the penis glides within the foreskin. Oh, yeah. Woo, woo. Can you go down to that last bolded point there, please? Yeah. Satisfy a sexual desire for foreskin boom sexual fetishism or erotic fetishism
Starting point is 00:11:52 is the sexual arousal brought on by any body part not conventionally viewed as being sexual in nature that's a very narrow definition of sexual fetishism. It's the textbook definition. It's not the common use definition. The one we're aware of. Yeah. Okay. A foreskin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin... Sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Okay. A foreskin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin is part of a male's sex organ. Okay. Parts of the world... Yep. By that logic,skin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin is part of a male's sex organ. Okay, okay. By that logic, no fetishes exist. And that would be gay, so it doesn't exist, I guess. Excuse me, all people have feet, soul. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 In parts of the world outside the United States, it's recognized as being sexual in nature. in parts of the world outside the United States, it's recognized as being sexual in nature. But many people who advocate circumcision claim that foreskin restorers have a foreskin fetish. This may be because those people are unaware that the foreskin is naturally part of the sex organ and plays a large part in sexual satisfaction. Those people are unaware that the foreskin used to be on the penis. So just because I get off on having a foreskin doesn't mean I get off on having a foreskin. I mean, come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah, you're the pervert. Even still, there are those men who really enjoy foreskin. By definition, they do not have a foreskin fetish. But such men are motivated to restore in order to have a foreskin fetish, but such men are motivated to restore in order to have a foreskin. Yep. Sorry, I just want to rewind because a foreskin fetish
Starting point is 00:13:34 does not make sense because the foreskin is a part of a man's sex organ. End of argument. It's unsexy, you know. And I don't think I protest. I protest too little, if anything. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So this document given to us by Mix. Thank you very much for this one, Mix. Yeah, thanks, Mix. Yeah, it leads us into the foreskin restoration methods and devices there's the manual tugging method which is tugging on the foreskin by using only your hands manual tugging is great it was that was that jelking uh yeah it's it's it's it worked wouldn't Wouldn't we all have foreskins? Not me! Joking's the whole dick, and this is just a small part of the dick. Manual tugging is great for tugging whenever you have privacy and free time.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Do it when you're in the shower, every time you're in the bathroom, even when you're sitting at home watching television. Refer to this guide to do it. So then there's the tape method. That's the tried and true methods for restoring your foreskin. Some methods such as cross taping are great for beginners who do not have much slack skin. Other methods like T-taping allow
Starting point is 00:14:55 an elastic strap to be used to tug the foreskin to aid its growth. Then there's companies that specifically sell this product. That's interesting. There's illustrated guides. I'm not going to click on that. growth uh then there's companies that specifically sell this product that's interesting there's illustrated guides i'm not going to click on that uh and then there's tugging devices they come in various configurations uh they are these are static weighted devices such as the pud which is the penis uncircumcising device. So you pull your pud, huh? No, your pud pulls you.
Starting point is 00:15:27 So we rush on. There are tapeless tuggers. There are bidirectional tuggers. And then there are tuggers devices that do all of the above. Tapeless devices use an elastic strap such as suspenders to pull the tugger and tension the foreskin to induce mitosis. There's a chart you can look at. There's a bulleted list with a bunch of links that, again, I am not clicking on.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But one of them is four balls. Okay, I'm going to click on four balls. Oh, it didn't work. So, Victor, does inducing mitosis in this case just mean, like, you made it bleed and scab over? No, mitosis just means cell division. So you're just making more. It's just growth. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah, that just happens. You're literally causing growth. Yeah. Which, you know. Through damage. Through damage. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:19 So that's all really good. So it's good. Okay. Yeah, it's all good. And now that we've learned and we've been helped by... You just naturally form yourself a homunculus of scar tissue.
Starting point is 00:16:31 We've learned something from our... Sorry, we've learned something from restoring foreskin. It's time to go to runit.com! Yay! R slash foreskin underscore restoration and uh boots your name oh you're deleted you're deleted uh but no my name my name is uh
Starting point is 00:16:52 um yeah sorry reflection my new Year's resolution. So around this time last year, I reached CI7. Okay, so that is foreskin jargon. CI means coverage indicator. And there's an entire category. There's charts that you can look at for your CI. But CI7
Starting point is 00:17:27 is pretty good. He's pretty far along. Good job, buddy. Thank you. I was stoked because I knew CI8 was right around the corner. However, a round a year later, I am not there.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I gained much more flaccid coverage and thickness around the bottom portion of my penis, too. No roll of the glands yet. That made this year in reflection a success to me. Now I have been at this for over three years. My method is sufficient, but I think it also has to do with my size. I am quite large, no mean to brag. Never met a small dick on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:18:11 What also happened during this year in reflection was that my red iodine experiment was a success. It helped de-keratinize my glands and inner foreskin. As as well it broke down my scar line the sensitivity is slowly coming back now for me now they are the matters of patience and
Starting point is 00:18:36 dedication my new year's resolution is to be as dedicated as ever to my restoration i am confident that i will reach CI8 in record time. What is the record? It's more than a year. This is not to say that I am tired at all. Not to say that I'm tired at all. I want to utilize the time that I have in a best
Starting point is 00:19:05 in as best of a way possible for me looking back though I discovered foreskin restoration in high school I know my journey would have ended long ago okay had I not knowledge of my circumcision depress me
Starting point is 00:19:22 is that how that okay this is red had I not knowledge of my circumcision depress me. Is that how that? Okay. This is Reddit. Had I not knowledge of my circumcision depress me. It has been very tough to live with what has happened to me, but foreskin restoration has kept me going. The knowing that I will be whole again has been my drive.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I do have making up for lost time partly in mind. It's the only thing he has to live for. Being at CI7, I am surely grateful for. The way my penis hangs flaccid now encourages me to keep going. I am emboldened by my flaccid penis. Yeah. While it may be soft soft I am hard with vigor I don't know a mini milestone for me
Starting point is 00:20:09 erect as well I enjoy it I guess I definitely want this year to be the year I reach CI8 with enough time to make way for CI9 let's see what this year brings I can't wait keep on tugging guys yeah keep on
Starting point is 00:20:29 tugging i was looking at the uh the real coverage index here on restoring foreskin.org rc uh zero that's your uh that's your uh super tight cut uh then it goes uh up into, uh, you got, you got the R the, the seven there. That's the large size penis coverage. So he's just telling you that he has a nice penis. So pretty cool. Pretty cool. Um, and then, uh, it gets eight. That's partial erect coverage.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Uh, skin will say somewhat over the Corona during erections, but tends to retract. Uh, and then if you get all the way up to 10, that is docking length. Nice. Yeah. Live in the dream. We have covered that, right? Oh yeah. I hope we've covered docking.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I think you're talking about something else. Yeah. Just as a reminder, a foreskin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin is part of a man's sex organ. Agreed. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Just so we all remember this. So since Mix put this document together and we got to it, a whole bunch of these Reddit people have deleted their accounts and posts, so that's fun. Weird. But we do still have them in the document. My name is Redarkfire, we got to it. A whole bunch of these Reddit people have deleted their accounts and posts, so that's fun. But we do still have them in the documents.
Starting point is 00:21:49 My name's Redarkfire, and I'm circumcised, but I don't feel less of a man, nor do I feel weird about it. Why do you men feel the need to restore foreskin? Oh, no. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't recall the pain, so I can't say it was a horrible traumatic experience, but I've been reading lately about men trying to restore their foreskin. Why? Any benefits? And then, Victor, your genital hat? All right. Genital hat?
Starting point is 00:22:19 That's RI-14. Just a goddamn perfect name. I love it. there's nothing wrong with me i'm not weird is a common defensive response upon learning your penis has been mutilated that's why it's so hard to change cultural opinion because most men can't bring themselves to admit their penis was stolen from them that their penis isn't normal the defensive response is so strong that it even makes some men say i'm glad i was circumcised to protect themselves being born okay yeah being born a male there are basic sexual features that should have been
Starting point is 00:23:01 promised to you bonus features unique to being male things that let you say i'll never know what having a vagina slash clitoris feels like but at least i have an xxxxx i love i love how reddit it is to say uh being born male i was born with bonus sexual features the frenulum the ridge band those sexual regions are just gone you'll never know what they feel like your frenulum is part of the male experience has been robbed from you just like a person born without eyes is robbed of the common human experience of eyesight being born a male but not being able to enjoy those sexual parts is like winning a trip to disneyland but you're not allowed to go on any rides and can only visit the food stands
Starting point is 00:23:51 this is finally what i was hoping the stock would be took a while to get there this is what i was looking for the benefit of restore what a perfect metaphor really the benefit of restoring is to try to take back some of that penis functionality most of us don't have under mountain frenulum or ridged band but we do have inner skin and glands even if it's cracked and dry and covered in a layer of keratin which it's not by growing enough foreskin to cover it, it can regain its moisture and sensitivity and be able to function like a normal penis should. Boy, guys, I'm really anticipating the comments on HFL.us in a little while. That's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Anyway, what's up on Major Styles? Hey, what's up? Yeah. Yeah, what's up? Yeah. Yeah, think about it. As a circumcised man, you'll never know what natural sex feels like. Ponder that shit for a while. Let it ruminate. You could travel the world, make a million dollars, win all kinds of awards.
Starting point is 00:25:05 What? What? Those things aren't going to be rewarding. What kind of awards? All kinds. All kinds. All kinds, yeah. And yet, the most basic human experience, the pleasure of natural sex, has been taken from you.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Nice. The glory of whole body orgasms, rolly wigs of pleasure, firework ejaculation, gone. You're either okay with that, or it makes you sick to your stomach. No, sex just makes me sick to my stomach anyway. It fills you with apathy or anger one or the other. If you like
Starting point is 00:25:52 the men on the site you won't accept it. You won't let yourself be mutilated and casually say yeah I'm cool with that. The benefits of foreskin restoration profound and if you choose to pursue it your sex life will be immeasurably improved my account has been suspended oh dang it that's jw's again my dick's just too good now uh so uh while you were looking at that, I was trying to find out what a DTR is. A DTR is a dual tension restorer. It's a little hard to describe other than, I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:40 if you look it up, there are photos and the photos do explain it and they are dreadful. But imagine, oh God, like, yeah, imagine something that looks really, really uncomfortable. And part of it goes into your urethra and the other part of it, like, just pulls. Is this something I can 3D print at home, Lemon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you sure can. It's definitely an image that says to me worth it.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Are you also sticking a rubber band into your urethra? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I don't think you actually are. That's the other side. No, the rubber band is pulling your foreskin. I get it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I was looking at it backwards. It was terrifying. Anybody that thinks they're doing that has not tried doing it. So anyway, my name's Erie Unit, and I've modified my homemade DTR to be more comfy. It's more comfy. The thing that you guys are looking at there, the picture that you guys are looking at, I made a more comfy version of that.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I put pillows on it. This picture. The gripper system no longer wants to pinch the fuck out of my penile skin. The pics are safe for work. No, I can't imagine they are. Isn't that the point? Yeah, but it doesn't want to. It still does it.
Starting point is 00:28:10 It still does it. But it sort of regrets it. But it says, please, please, I don't want to do this, please. And then the picture that I put on, the picture that I put up, not picture that I put up, not only, like, is, has a bunch of, like, sharp plastic edges, but also it is very dirty. Yeah. Is that a quarter?
Starting point is 00:28:33 It's very, yep. Oh, my God. Yeah. So, anyway, then I put another pick up here. This is what it used to look like. I replaced the inner cone with a translucent bottle cap so there's no more wobbliness on the gripper system. And then I glued a little tube that goes over the shaft
Starting point is 00:28:54 so it can only go back and forth on the shaft instead of being all wobbly wobbly. Oh, you clamp the skin on it. Oh, boy. So you screw the bottle cap onto the skin? Is that what it is? Oh, you clamp the skin on it. Oh, boy. So you screw the bottle cap onto the skin? Is that what it is? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Part of it's definitely how a Nerf dart it looks like. Yeah. Did you notice the safety pin on the other side? Yeah. There's a lot of safety pins. I don't like any of them. And then, Boots, you're a toasty pigeon. I am toasty pigeon.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Points for creativity, but this thing looks incredibly painful. Nope, it's not. It's like how everyone else describes using the actual DTR. About an hour and a half. Oh, so about an hour. Wait. About an hour, an hour, and about an hour, an hour. Yeah. So one hour per hour. No, no. Yep. Hour
Starting point is 00:29:50 and hour. Can you do the sentence, please? Oh, I'm sorry. About an hour and a hour and a half at max. That's it. Tension is how long it takes before the skin starts to get sore, and that's simply from it being under tension. I can even feel like I have something
Starting point is 00:30:05 on my penis otherwise. Now that I've modded this to where it's actually comfortable to wear. Well, I'm glad to know it's comfortable. How do you keep it clean? It looks like a lot of porous materials wouldn't want to get an infection. I don't clean the outer cone of the gripper. The only thing that really collects bacteria and dead skin cells is the inner gripper part and the push plate. This thing is able to be completely disassembled like the actual DTR.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So cleaning is a breeze. I just wash it in the shower. He strips and reassembles it like a Marine. Blindfolded. It's that scene in Forrest Gump. This is by Dick Tucker. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Well, good job, man.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Way to come up with a creative budget option for dual tension device. Glad it's working for you. Thanks, ma! And meant to say sore and not for, lol. And then he leaves your plur skeleton. Do you follow a tutorial to make this?
Starting point is 00:31:19 Nope! I just did it! Right off the top of my head. Oh, good job. A true hero of reddit okay so uh so victor um if you will take uh this next thread here is called dilemma with talking to my gf about my restoration yes i do have a dilemma. Oh. I mean, if the whole relationship is going to fall apart just because of your... No, wait. Nope, nope.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Original post. Do it out of the dock. Okay. I was going to say it's... Probably been deleted. Yeah, it's been deleted. Everyone's deleted. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:00 All right, there we go. All right. Cleaver name is my name um great good uh so i was cleaved yes yes oh yeah hey everyone i've been restoring for two to two and a half years on and off i have made some great progress, but I am just not over the dreaded hump. Now. Sounds great. The hump is CI4. No, onto my dilemma.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I have recently just got into a relationship with my girlfriend and we have been together for about a month. We haven't had sex yet, but we have talked about it. And she asked me the question if I was circumcised. I responded yes, and I asked her if that was her preference when it comes to guys and sex, and she said yes. She also responded on top of that, saying she just hates the way an uncircumcised penis looks, and that they look gross to her. So my question to everyone is, how do I go about telling me girlfriend that i am trying to restore my foreskin i mean i really care about her but i don't want my dick to make her feel repulsed and have her get turned off by it okay i want to please her and i feel if i continue to restore when i'm with her
Starting point is 00:33:15 that our sex life will suffer from it so please help me out fellas any suggestions oh man what always the best move the best move is to say, Reddit, how should I talk to my girlfriend? Abusively. Yeah, so my name is RestoredGuy100. If I were in that situation, I would continue to restore. I would not let a girl's uninformed preferences dictate my behavior. Uninformed. You don't even know what a dick is lady.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yeah. You've never even been on the subreddit. You can't even have a foreskin fetish. Yeah. Nor can I. For we all know,'m not gonna scroll up there are plenty of girls out there if this one is totally turned off by foreskins then there are plenty of others who would appreciate the advantages for the female
Starting point is 00:34:20 partner of the foreskin i think it's the partner of the foreskin. Yeah, I malpronounce you man and foreskin. Just go out to the bars and tell all the ladies you have your foreskin. The smart ones. Please, please, ladies, one at a time. One at a time, please. Show them your chivos and show them your DTR. Yeah, it may be time to tell her Goodby.
Starting point is 00:34:48 My name is Communist Festo. Oh, fuck you. No, it's good. It's a good name. It's a good name. You like my good name. You really like my good name. It doesn't...
Starting point is 00:34:58 Okay. Sex is a mutual agreement and activity. If she so demands that you remain circumcised, which is what she said, right? She demanded that. Do you remember how we can all infer that she demanded that? If she so demands that you remain circumcised, that is what
Starting point is 00:35:15 pleasures her. So if she seeks to be pleasured, then it is only hypocrisy for her to not allow you to also feel pleasure. To her?
Starting point is 00:35:32 No, no, I have more things to say about your girlfriend. Really? Tell me more. A lot of fucking Ferengi here in this subreddit. Let's find out what other subreddits you're on. I can read. I have a couple guesses. I know a lot of things about your girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:35:47 To her, your dick is a mere dildo. If you aren't feeling pleasure whilst you must pleasure her, that is not true sex. Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 00:36:03 Hey, I'm Nasty Panannis. Yes, you are. Almost three years. You never seen each other naked. I would just find a new girl. But good luck with whatever you choose. Okay, so yeah, everyone here can read.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Everyone here can definitely read. Yeah, can you read your edit now? Yeah, everyone here can read. Everyone here can definitely read. Yeah, Vicar, can you read your edit now? Oh, yeah. All right. So after hearing all that, I mean, wow. So many people throwing their input into my scenario that I am in. So first off, I would like to thank... You guys are real good about reading into things.
Starting point is 00:36:42 So first off, I would like to thank everyone for their advice. I truly do appreciate it. Now, I will say some of the comments I feel are extreme to a certain extent. I do agree with a large majority of you in saying that I should calmly talk to her about it and educate her on the issue. Wait, somebody said that? Somebody actually said talk to the woman? somebody actually said talk to the woman i mean after all you all are probably right that she is simply misinformed on the topic of foreskin capital f that's how that's how you start i agree that a relationship is about compromise but i do believe if i am unhappy with something about my body
Starting point is 00:37:18 she should support me in my decision i think you should get home close the door and say first of all you are misinformed so when the time is right i will find a way to educate her and see where it goes from there i will try and give you guys an update on our talk whenever that happens to be but again thank you all for your input and as always keep on tugging uh so while you were looking at that one, Victor, Boots was just looking at a Cleaver Names sort of output. And what else did you post? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Boots, take it, please.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. So Cleaver Names 17 days ago posted device while working out. Yep. You're a CI3, by the way. Oh, yeah. So I'm kind of a newbie to this, but I'm working on it. That is loose cut. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I don't see boot cut force. That's what we're going to call boots rain gear from now on. That's where boots is at. More of a bell bottom. Just a general question, but does anyone wear their device while they work out if so has anyone be able to withstand longer tugging sessions because of this wait so to start off because of this yeah the blood flow oh yeah yeah i'm doing all this oh no you've got you've got no you've got Tuggers high Listen I gotta get my gains in every direction You can't skip foreskin day
Starting point is 00:39:02 That's the right joke Victor So to start off I've been wanting to up my hours of device use and i figured why not wear my device to the gym while i lift and work out why not why not why not why not so i did it a few days ago and not only did it not slip or come off but i noticed that i can keep my device on for longer while not feeling that burning or discomfort feeling from keeping the device on for too long. Anyone wondering what device I'm using? It's the Fit V2, which is a direct air device. Okay, here I go.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, we're all googling it. It's crazy because before I would only last like 1.5 to 2 hours. Oh, no. Does it have a pinch at some times? Okay, you're going to have to hold off while I finish reading this. Sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Oh my god. Before I had to take a break.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Now when I use it and wear it at the gym, I can wear it for well over 2.5 plus hours or even longer before I start feeling that discomfort and needing to take a break. Has anyone else done this or seen the same thing happening to them? I'm generally curious. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Thanks, and KOT, keep on trucking? Keep on tugging. Keep on tugging, of course. I found an instructional video. Victor's advice is do not try this at home. I found an instructional video. Victor's advice is do not try this at home. So I'm on foreskin-restoration-devices.com.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Foreskin Restoration Devices is the home of the foreskin inflation tool? Yep. That's right, the foreskin inflation tool. So you get several things. The first thing is an alligator clip and the lid of a Nalgene bottle. The second thing is like a like a jello mold that looks like breasts. And then the third thing is weights. So you're just building a apparatus that you hang from your dick.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And and then, you know, for hours while you're working out. I'm going to read the first four items in the top nav of foreskin-restoration-devices.com. Home, products, sizing, liability waiver. Yeah, the liability waiver is uh is really really great and last instructional video and i'm really mad i watched it but that was my choice so one of the things in the waiver is explicitly an agreement that there are no directions on how to use this fifty dollars this is also an impressively ugly website oh yeah yeah you know victor everyone it's just everyone's own journey you know yes um i'd just like to read a short line from the front page of the site it says yeah please european gentlemen please consider shopping at HTTPS forskinnedit.com That's just a page that has an email address and a notify
Starting point is 00:42:13 me button. Just notify me about any sort of bullshit penis thing you can think of. I'll buy it. I'll buy all of it. Alright, it says info at foreskin.com for questions. There's a button at the bottom that says share, tweet, pin it. So I hit tweet and it just
Starting point is 00:42:31 brings up my Twitter and it says it gives me the option to tweet foreskin.com so I'm just going to do that. Okay, great. Great, great, great. Great. Wait, is it just foreskin.com, nothing else? Yeah. Yeah. There's some more threads here from the Reddit.
Starting point is 00:43:06 We've got, will futonInnerForeskinHeal and StitchesOnMyDick. Help, please. But we're going to move away from the Reddit section. Wait, really? We're not going to do the next one? The whole internet is not Reddit, Heelys. Alright, alright. Take it, Heelys.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Okay. Okay. For those circumcised at birth, have you confronted your parents about it? Oh, no. My name's Rack Salesman. I feel like confronting my mother about it
Starting point is 00:43:42 and telling her how much you ruined my life and how uncomfortable about it and telling her how much she ruined my life. And how uncomfortable and dry and cracked my penis will be. Yeah, keep going. In this one pathetic short life I got.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But on the other hand, I think to myself, what's the point? Oh, do you? Do you? That sounds like a depressed person. Yeah. No, I'm not depressed. I just have a circumcised dick. Yeah, no, you're right. Wouldn't you be depressed?
Starting point is 00:44:16 It's not going to change anything. I'm curious to know if anyone here has talked to their parents about it and how it turned out. to know if anyone here has talked to their parents about it and how it turned out. And there's answers, but we'll just go ahead and skip those. Sorry, I just, yeah. I want to read just a brief excerpt of the person who did that.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Oh, okay, great. Needless to say, this didn't go exactly as I had imagined. That's it. So she didn't lift you up on her shoulders, huh? Okay, weird. So that was the Reddit section. There's more there. Thank you, Mix.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But we are going to be moving on to the Foreskin Restoration Intactivist Network. And my name is Violator. Oof. God. Boo. I'm sorry that my name is Violator, but here we go. So I posted some
Starting point is 00:45:19 jerk-off instruction photo from Luscious.net. I don't know why that relates. But anyway, I overheard some shit. I could use a little support today. I've been doing pretty well. More good days than
Starting point is 00:45:38 bad. Still get upset sometimes and everything, but way better than I was a couple years ago. Yesterday I was at a small sandwich shop. Eating lunch. I was at a small table. Very close to a group of young women. They just so happened.
Starting point is 00:45:53 To be discussing a friend of theirs. Who is pregnant. The subject of circumcision came up. And one of them said something along the lines of. I don't know why people are concerned. Over whether it reduces pleasure or not. They can still come. And that's all that matters. And then another one said something like, it's a parent's choice and it's a cultural
Starting point is 00:46:09 thing, so those wackos need to stay out of it. The crazy thing about that whole deal was that one of them who had been kind of quiet during the convo spoke up and said that her boyfriend was one of those wackos and he'd been stretching his skin to try to make a new foreskin. They all laughed and seemed to think that it was impossible but one of them was saying some super fucked up things about how that's disrespecting his parents' choice they made for him
Starting point is 00:46:32 and that it was some kind of huge asshole for trying to defy them in such a way. I was angry. And I knew that if I said anything it'd probably be a huge fucking scene. Yes. Yes you would. So what'd you do? Okay. So I finished my sandwich and left. I know that these women, in quotes,
Starting point is 00:46:52 I know that these women, they were just a bunch of dumb fucking cunts with a K, but the thing they said won't get out of my head. It's really difficult for me to cleanse the anger from my mind. I'm a violator. Yeah, yeah, Boots, you're parsec skin. Yeah, that's me. I mean, parsec skin.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Fuck them. Those are exactly the kind of women I refuse to even think about dating. Don't let it bother you. They are brainwashed sheeple. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I wrote this in 2016. People can still be teenagers in 2016, Brutes. Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. Oh my god, okay. See about getting some info cards from blood-stained men to carry around to give to these ignoramies.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Oh no! Ignoramices. Oh, I don't think I want to open up that tab. Oh no, we're doing this. No, no. Okay. Okay. The first image that comes up is pretty good because it's just a loving tribute of a man with his dick who got shot with a gun, it looks like.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Jonathan Conte, 1981 to 2016. Oh, my God. There's a photo! You can hand out to people at diners. There's a photo. You can hand out to people at diners. There's a photo of a bro like looking at like a banana that he put ketchup
Starting point is 00:48:30 on and being sad. The pictures of all these people with these white jumpsuits with the red stains of their crutches. Yeah, yeah. There's a whole bunch of pictures. There's a whole bunch of pictures of guys with white jumpsuits.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And, you know, other genders, too. There's women there. There's women there as well. Solidarity, baby. Circumcision horror, bloodstained men. Okay. Oh, man. Cool.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Another documentary called The Uncut Truth. Clever. Yes. man. Cool. Another documentary called The Uncut Truth. Clever. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, Victor, you are a lady. I am a lady.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And you want to write something from, this is from my wife's perspective. Yeah. From my wife's perspective. Yeah. From my wife's perspective. I guess she's borrowing my account because my name is Weldon Pipe. I hope I am writing this in the correct section. Anyway, I am the wife of Weldon Pipe and just wanted to share my feelings in his journey
Starting point is 00:49:41 as he has told me there is not a lot from the women's perspective and I wanted to help fix that anyway a little about me because i'm sure you guys care i am what i am kind of what might be considered a modern day hippie in some aspect i like things natural and how they are supposed to be i have two kids and i extremely pro-breastfeeding and anti-formula. It's the food we were given to feed our babies. When they start solids, I make their baby food from fresh fruits and veggies instead of that store-bought baby food crap. And we are saving to buy our homestead where we can grow our own food and raise our own livestock instead of eating GMO and hormone-filled food they sell at stores. So despite all of this,
Starting point is 00:50:27 it may come as a surprise I was a bit skeptical when my husband said he didn't want to circumcise our son and also wanted to restore his foreskin. Real quick before I get into my journey, because real quick, I guess. Yep, real quick, real quick. A couple of 95 paragraphs, real quick. I would like to point out something. Prior to my husband, I have slept with an intact man, and I didn't even realize it. Having used a condom, I obviously didn't experience the rolling action that is described when being with an intact man versus a cut one.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But anyway, like I said, I didn't even know he was intact because he was already aroused and as everyone knows when a man is aroused and retracted the penis looks pretty much exactly the same aesthetically how dare you anyway after this had happened a friend of mine who had been with his brother had said to me isn't it gross how they aren't circumcised and i was a bit taken aback and thought to myself he wasn't i doubt it because i didn't notice it being any different but just for the sake of girl talk i agreed with her and said yeah it was so gross thank you media for portraying how disgusting it is to be uncut
Starting point is 00:51:37 and make women think that and give judgment on it oh yeah no they're always doing those news programs anyway the whole reason i am bringing this up is because it stuck out to me that it wasn't gross and wasn't weird that thing i didn't notice through a condom thing i didn't notice that it stuck out to me the thing i didn't notice got it okay uh okay let's fast conversation stuck out but that. Okay, let's fast forward a bit. At about 20 weeks pregnant with my son, I went into preterm labor and was experiencing consistent contractions. Protocol to the hospital, they start asking you generic questions. Are you going to be using an epidural?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Who is your health insurance provider? Are you going to circumcise your son? To the last question, immediately responded yes my husband interrupted me and said whoa wait we haven't discussed this and i stopped and was confused because that's what you're supposed to do again thank you media after the nurse left the room we talked about a bit and i said to him all right well we can research this but bottom line comes down to i don't have a penis so this really isn't my decision if you don't want to circumcise him i respect that the hospital treated my preterm labor and after a night stay at the hospital we were
Starting point is 00:52:55 released okay that's great that's great uh so uh so skip uh skip to the second last paragraph like 11 paragraphs and exactly i started my own research myself i looked up foreskin restoration pros of being intact etc who knew pinterest had so much info ha ha oh i'm not doing that i started reading things about a rolling sensation with foreskin restoration don Don't pin it. And how it makes sex feel better because it's like the man's way of providing lubrication. And I started getting excited. I would think, wow, this all sounds great.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I can't wait to see what happens. And my husband is about one third of the way. And let me tell you, the experience is amazing. Sex is getting better and better it would sometimes be uncomfortable especially if he hadn't taken care of the hairs that can grow on the shaft and who wants sex to be uncomfortable and i caught myself just daydreaming about his foreskin coming back and the new sensations it was bringing this is definitely his wife writing this my husband has said to me growing his skin back
Starting point is 00:54:06 is being like given a brand new toy a toy he wants to constantly this was written by a real doll as if men need to be more obsessed with their penis it's written by a second hand real doll based on the first two paragraphs and I agree
Starting point is 00:54:22 it is like a brand new toy for me as well there are nights when the kids are in bed and he is doing manual tugging i ask if i can help no that's not maybe maybe that's weird but i want to be as supportive as i can because i know how important this is to him it's so important my skin and pull on it for an hour and a half. It's so important that one of his Christmas presents this year was the DA hyper restore and a retaining cone. Okay. He was previously only using the TLC X and manual.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Look at all of them. Restore training. I am so excited for him and loving going through this journey with him. I wanted to put my feelings out there to maybe help anyone who is unsure how their significant others will feel because like i said i was skeptical and unsure about the whole thing but i'm now 110 on board and i'm so excited to see how much better everything is going to get so boots you just posted a picture of a bunch of different apparatus.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Oh my God, that's a fourth grade science project right there. That's a deluxe heroin kit. It's better than a science museum. There's a giant syringe attached to a long piece of PVC pipe. A catheter tube, yeah. Yeah, and then there's like a funnel and then a balloon and a rubber band. And that's your Christmas gift. Like, that's like $1.12 worth of plastic right there.
Starting point is 00:55:59 You didn't go to the website. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Levitt. It's $70 worth of stuff. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that'sitt. It's $70. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:56:06 That's fair. Send this kid a timeout because this kid blows the balloon up. It now comes with 25 balloons. You used to only come with five. My name is Athrowaway. I'm posting in foreskinrestoration.vbulletin.net. I'm posting in foreskinrestoration.vbulletin.net I am about CI2 with roughly half an inch of inner skin from the scar line to the glands.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Unsure of the relevancy, but it may help. My erections are slightly tight, but not uncomfortable. And I cannot bend it past 70 degrees without it becoming strained and then painful. Can I tell you some more about my dick? 70 degrees from what? 70 degrees. Okay. If you can bend your erection 70 degrees.
Starting point is 00:56:56 No, 70 degrees Celsius. That's friction heat. You're looking for some hot stuff this evening um uh okay so here's a thing about uh my foreskin and not me as a human being masturbation is more of a chore to me than anything it can take upwards of an hour to climax if i'm not trying to rush. Essentially, the only reason I masturbate is to relieve sexual tension. Oh, is that why you masturbate? That's why I masturbate, yep.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It's essentially the only reason. That's weird. Besides the climax, I don't really derive much pleasure from it. It's more like scratching an itch than anything. Sort of like, huh, bladder is full. Guess I better go use the bathroom. Don't get me wrong. With my libido, I masturbate daily.
Starting point is 00:57:57 No more than once per day. And it certainly feels okay. Yeah, I'm not a freak. I'm not a freak. But it certainly feels okay. But it's just that it's not amazing. It's not okay. It's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Okay and necessary. Like taking a piss. Like that Tool song. Life feeds on life. Yeah, so me cumming is like taking a piss. Anyway, as I restore my foreskin and glands, I will probably cut back on manual stimulation. I mean, no, I won't, because I'll be tugging on it for hours.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But anyway, and simply induce lucid wet dreams for a while. That's right. There's actually a lucid wet dreams document that was just put in the hopper. Oh, good. I don't need to Google that right now. No, no, no. I hope that has a similarly brain-melting
Starting point is 00:59:00 experience for me. I want dibs. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It's called Redditors Practicing Lucid Dreaming for Horny Reasons. Anyway, okay, so I can leave my member alone as it heals. So, what was the difference
Starting point is 00:59:18 like for you after you had it restored? How much inner skin do you have left, and how relevant is it to your pleasure? I get 100% of the physical stimulation from the corona. Gotta say, how much inner skin do you have left is just a haunting, haunting phrase. How much inner skin do you have left? Fuck.
Starting point is 00:59:42 How much inner skin do you have left? Fuck. Okay. What about this next thing? Go for it. Sure. Okay. Frottage.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I'm Riot1996. I'm not sure if this is supposed to go here, but I guess it's a good place as any. While I've not done it before, I did some research on the concept of mutual masturbation or frat as sexual practice between males. And what I gathered is what makes fraught a more feasible method of sexual interaction is the intact status of the fremulum on the underside of the penis. I'd just like to remind you that a foreskin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin
Starting point is 01:00:41 is a part of the man's sex organ. No, this is the scientific idea of frot, my good man. Um, so, which are stimulated by the contact between penises during frot. Overall sensitivity loss
Starting point is 01:00:59 notwithstanding, I'm curious as to how feasible frottage is with circumcised penises. Could you rub a circumcised penis? I'm not sure you could. Can it still be pleasurable? Or is it just not
Starting point is 01:01:18 enough, so to speak? Okay. What have we learned from any of this? I don't know how we're possibly skipping raw milks posts yes yeah yeah i want yeah lemon come on never mind never mind take a boots oh no victor wants it yeah victor wants it i'm raw milk what research was this firsthand what would be a possible way to even determine an answer to this question get four dudes two uncut and two cut put eegs and skin galvanometers on them have an uncut guy fraught and then circumcise him and fraud again to tell
Starting point is 01:01:59 the difference why is this even a question just rub your dick on another one see if you enjoy it case closed the true hero all right what did we learn from any of this just rub your dick on another one see what happens rub a dick on a dick i I mean, I don't know. Oh my god, a yoin dip? Yeah? Two down from raw milk? Okay, yeah sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I'm a yoin dip. Is this supposed to be a G-rated response? Then I can do that. I'm vouching for fraudulent practice. I was doing it right before I knew about restoration. It was with my cousin. Oh. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:52 During the good old puberty days. Oh. He was experimenting while I already knew what I was doing. That's not good days at all. We both enjoyed ourselves even though we're both circumcised. He was plan base. What I learned is that people will do anything to not take an inventory of their emotions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because like all things, it starts from this thing of like,. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because like all things, like it starts from like this thing of like, well, you know, there's this thing and it's like, okay, sure. That is absolutely, like there is a standing
Starting point is 01:03:36 with which you can say that this different thing makes different things. But at the point that you're like, that ruined my life no your your life was yeah your life was ruined for other reasons well it's it's it's always really good to have like you know a a very specific thing to hone in on and blame for uh for everything being miserable in your life especially if it's your mother yeah yeah yeah yeah and it might as well be your mother yeah and like i you know i get the concept of like i i didn't like okay this at the same time like fucking get over it but uh boy i don't know and i think there's an argument to be made against
Starting point is 01:04:20 against circumcision sure yeah i don't disagree that. It just didn't ruin your life. Yeah. Anyway, our website, thefbl.us, our forum is Ball Pits, and let's go away now. Bye. Stretching up your tightness, good enough that your phone grows We are all in favor of this motion Stretching up your tightness, time to open up your phone If Lemon's within a mile radius and you try to tell a joke, he's probably getting interrupted. I hate how true that is. Genuinely.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Oh no, women's sad now. We better restore his foreskin. I hope tonight's topic can lift his spirits. I feel incomplete. Just tug on his heartstrings and other things. We're going to rebuild your confidence, Lemon.

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