The F Plus - 339: Afterskin
Episode Date: December 22, 2020The topic of male circumcision is a contentious one, but fortunely we're able to avoid all of that by simply reading the words of dullards who are doing horrific things to their own skin while co...mplaining about their mothers. This week, The F Plus would like to remind you foreskin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin is part of a man's sex organ.
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Healy, say that joke that we liked earlier.
You guys have to set me up.
Oh, no, sorry, I got it.
Some of this talk is Reddit and some of it isn't.
That's the internet.
That's the internet. We got a new one Crazy new one
We got a song to sing
Dance when you're cold and stretchy
Don't let you stretch
You put your hands up and let your fingers fly
And you stretch
It's time to grow with the F+.
Terrible Things, Red with Enthusiasm. In the room+. Terrible things read with enthusiasm.
In the room tonight we have Boots Rangier.
Hi. I've noticed that my penis smells terrible since I have reached flaccid coverage of the glands.
Should I be worried?
Achilles Heeles.
Another option for cleaning in there is to use a water pick for cleaning your teeth set on low pressure.
Victor Laszlo.
I'm determined to keep tugging until I get rid of this turkey neck and then eventually
a foreskin.
And Lemon.
Don't even bother going to a doctor as most likely Bee will recommend circumcision.
Tell him to fuck off! Hey, FBliss
Oh, hi Lemon
Hey, only four of us tonight, huh?
Okay, okay, well we can do that
So Boots, Victor, Achilles, do you all feel like complete men?
Yeah, mostly.
Mostly?
Now, tell me about mostly.
I don't know.
Just sometimes maybe there's a little piece of me missing.
A little piece of you missing.
Have you ever thought about what pieces that might be?
Nope.
little piece of you missing. Have you ever thought about what piece that might be? Nope.
Well, now I know the secret
to your happiness, Victor. That's terrific.
Well, I'm going to ruin your happiness
in several ways, and one of them
is by telling you about the piece
of you that has
been missing.
Victor?
Victor? Victor.
Have you thought about how you don't have your foreskin?
How do you know I don't, Lemon?
Well, okay, so...
I mean, I don't, but why do you know that?
Well, okay, so, I mean, I joined your OnlyFans,
and I was the one that...
You didn't tip.
What's that?
You didn't tip.
No, no, I didn't.
But...
The tip was missing, that's true.
Well, we're going to be going
to a couple of different sites, but the first site that we're going to be going to a couple of different sites,
but the first site that we're going to here is one called RestoringForeskin.org.
RestoringForeskin.org is a very corporate-looking website.
The logo is just like...
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's what the logo is it was a very sad fish oh you can click
it oh can you yeah so there's a uh there's an animated gif of a of a dick and then it says uh
private messaging support progress pictures blogs so this is the place to find out about foreskin restoration.
On the sidebar is a Google Calendar event schedule
so that you can go to, for example,
if you are in the Dallas area,
there's a Sunday Dallas meetup
for people who are looking for their foreskin.
There's a genital integrity ribbon that you could it's like a breast cancer ribbon yeah probably getting a magnet you stick on your car yeah yeah
it's a pink on one side blue on the other uh so uh restoring foreskin is a social networking site
for those men who wish to participate in a community devoted to foreskin restoration.
We welcome those who wish to learn how to restore foreskin and undo the effects of circumcision.
We also welcome those who wish to advocate against routine infant circumcision, or RIC, and seek ways of being an inactive.
Intactivist. Intactivist.
Intactivist.
Oh.
That's clever.
We've covered that term before, actually.
I probably had troubles with it last time, too.
The public portion of restoringforskin.org includes a beginning guide to foreskin restoration.
The public portion also includes links.
You're welcome.
And general information on foreskin restoration methods and devices, including a T-tape guide and manual tugging routines.
I don't need your help with that.
Also available is a foreskin restoration calendar showing meetings for Norm and other groups.
There's some other stuff.
And we want you to create an account.
But Achilles Heeles,
we're going to start here with some questions,
which are, of course, frequently asked.
And if you'll just lead us in here, please.
So, why restore your foreskin?
My foreskin?
Foreskin restoration is a process of growing new skin to simulate...
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, I see.
To simulate the intact foreskin.
It is a long, drawn-out process that can take more than a year to accomplish.
It is natural to wonder why a man would make the effort to restore something that was so easily and quickly removed from his penis.
The following are various reasons that men restore.
I came up with this list of reasons based on my personal experience and from reading several forums and websites.
The reasons below are frequently given by many men.
Okay, and what are those reasons?
Better sex.
Face it.
We all want better sex.
And more sex.
No, we don't.
I'm very tired.
How dare you.
Worse than less, please.
The foreskin is part of a man's sex organ.
Oh, wow.
Very technical.
Having a complete sex organ makes sex better for men.
It makes sex better for women, citation needed.
And if women are happier with sex, they will want it more,
which makes it better for men.
Okay, great.
Which, as we've established, is the most important part of it.
Yeah.
And out of the dock, please, if you wouldn't mind.
Mm-hmm.
More sensitive penis.
The glands and inner foreskin are mucous membranes.
This is the same type tissue as under your eyelid.
Ooh, very sexy.
It is a very thin covering that allows the nerves to sense fully.
The glands and inner foreskin remnant are exposed when the penis is circumcised.
As a defense mechanism, the glands and inner foreskin remnant develop a calloused layer
of years of clothing and bed sheets rubbing against the tissue.
The calloused
layer is keratin.
The calloused layer insulates the nerves
under the layer from being as sensitive and
stimulated touching of the glands and inner
foreskin. To get
an idea of how sensitive the corona
inner foreskin should be, lightly run your
fingertips across the back of your hand.
All righty.
Let's do it, everybody.
Okay.
Then lightly run your fingertips across the palm of your hand.
All righty.
Yep.
Notice a difference?
Yep.
The palm is much more sensitive.
Is it?
The palms of your hand have Meisner's corpuscles,
which are sensitive, fine-touched nerves.
I knew I shouldn't have taken the foreskin off my hands.
For religious reasons?
That's the aft skin.
These are the same types of nerves
that are in the inner foreskin and corona.
Now lightly...
Hey, everybody.
Now lightly run a fingertip from the tip of your penis
towards your scrotum.
Okay, this is an unusual way to start the recording,
but here we go.
Welcome to the JOI of the end of the month.
I love the idea of a really technical JOI.
Run a fingertip
from the tip of
your penis towards
your scrotum
now run it back
is your glands
frenulum and
inner foreskin more
sensitive than the
shaft skin between
the circ scar and
your scrotum you
don't have a scar
come on if not
then foreskin
restoration can
help why the
leather face did
my circumcision, so...
Well, you probably have a scar if you've rubbed your dick against the bedsheets so much there's a keratin layer.
Wait, Victor, is that not normal? Is that not true for everybody?
Well, I mean, we were all 13 once, but...
Really? I had the rainbow bright sheets bright sheets just couldn't get enough oh i thought
you i thought you were going with rainbow dash he's older than you i'm older than you yeah yeah
fair uh this is not a very important section but why sex why sex is better for women
the answer is probably because it makes it better for men.
The Journal of New Zealand Medical Association
published a report that determined sex with a circumcised man
contributed to vaginal dryness in women being sore after sex.
That's an interesting...
Okay, I mean, is there any other thing that would cause
moisture in that channel?
I don't know. This report that I can't show you
determined that vaginal dryness
occurred more frequently as women
aged. That's just a slam
against old ladies, I guess. I don't know.
That's an unsolvable problem, though.
Yeah, right.
Mobile foreskin of intact men proved to be more stimulating for women
and prevented women's natural lubrication from being pulled out of the vagina.
I got it!
Go, go, go, go, go!
Start the car!
Many restored men report that their wives and girlfriends
notice a significant difference in sex after the men restored.
The use of lubrication
during sex decreases, and often
no extra lubrication is needed.
Women that used to get sore from
sex no longer feel discomfort afterward,
or maybe tell you about it.
Many would
report the penis feels
different during penetration.
Oh, that's different, she will say.
They can feel the gliding action as the penis glides within the foreskin.
Oh, yeah.
Woo, woo.
Can you go down to that last bolded point there, please?
Yeah.
Satisfy a sexual desire for foreskin boom sexual fetishism or erotic fetishism
is the sexual arousal brought on by any body part not conventionally viewed as being sexual in nature
that's a very narrow definition of sexual fetishism.
It's the textbook definition. It's not the
common use definition.
The one we're aware of. Yeah. Okay.
A foreskin
fetish does not make sense
because the foreskin... Sorry.
Okay. A foreskin fetish does
not make sense because the foreskin is part
of a male's sex organ. Okay. Parts of the world... Yep. By that logic,skin fetish does not make sense because the foreskin is part of a male's sex organ.
Okay, okay.
By that logic, no fetishes exist.
And that would be gay, so it doesn't exist, I guess.
Excuse me, all people have feet, soul.
Yeah.
In parts of the world outside the United States, it's recognized as being sexual in nature.
in parts of the world outside the United States,
it's recognized as being sexual in nature.
But many people who advocate circumcision claim that foreskin restorers have a foreskin fetish.
This may be because those people are unaware that the foreskin is naturally part of the sex organ and plays a large part in sexual satisfaction.
Those people are unaware that the foreskin used to be on the penis.
So just because I get off on having a foreskin doesn't mean I get off on having a foreskin.
I mean, come on, guys.
Yeah, you're the pervert.
Even still, there are those men who really enjoy foreskin.
By definition, they do not have a foreskin fetish.
But such men are motivated to restore in order to have a foreskin fetish, but such men are motivated to restore in order to have
a foreskin.
Yep.
Sorry, I just want to
rewind because a foreskin fetish
does not make sense
because the foreskin is a part of
a man's sex organ.
End of argument.
It's unsexy, you know.
And I don't think I protest.
I protest too little, if anything.
So, yeah.
So this document given to us by Mix.
Thank you very much for this one, Mix.
Yeah, thanks, Mix.
Yeah, it leads us into the foreskin restoration methods and devices
there's the manual tugging method which is tugging on the foreskin by using only your hands
manual tugging is great it was that was that jelking uh yeah it's it's it's it worked wouldn't Wouldn't we all have foreskins? Not me!
Joking's the whole dick, and this is just a small part of the dick.
Manual tugging is great for tugging whenever you have privacy and free time.
Do it when you're in the shower, every time you're in the bathroom,
even when you're sitting at home watching television.
Refer to this guide to do it.
So then there's the tape method. That's the tried and true methods
for restoring your foreskin. Some
methods such as cross taping are great for
beginners who do not have much slack skin.
Other methods like T-taping allow
an elastic strap to be
used to tug the foreskin to aid its
growth. Then there's
companies that specifically sell this
product. That's interesting. There's illustrated guides. I'm not going to click on that. growth uh then there's companies that specifically sell this product that's
interesting there's illustrated guides i'm not going to click on that
uh and then there's tugging devices they come in various configurations uh they are these are
static weighted devices such as the pud which is the penis uncircumcising device. So you pull your pud, huh? No, your pud pulls you.
So we rush on.
There are tapeless tuggers.
There are bidirectional tuggers.
And then there are tuggers devices that do all of the above.
Tapeless devices use an elastic strap such as suspenders to pull the tugger
and tension the foreskin to induce mitosis.
There's a chart you can look at.
There's a bulleted list with a bunch of links that, again, I am not clicking on.
But one of them is four balls.
Okay, I'm going to click on four balls.
Oh, it didn't work.
So, Victor, does inducing mitosis in this case just mean, like, you made it bleed and scab over?
No, mitosis just means cell division.
So you're just making more.
It's just growth.
Yes.
Yeah, that just happens.
You're literally causing growth.
Yeah.
Which, you know.
Through damage.
Through damage.
Yeah.
All right.
So that's all really good.
So it's good.
Okay.
Yeah, it's all good.
And now that we've learned and we've
been helped by... You just
naturally form yourself a homunculus of
scar tissue.
We've learned something from
our... Sorry, we've learned
something from restoring foreskin. It's time
to go to runit.com!
Yay!
R slash
foreskin underscore restoration and uh boots your name oh you're deleted you're
deleted uh but no my name my name is uh
um yeah sorry
reflection my new Year's resolution.
So around this time last year, I reached CI7.
Okay, so that is foreskin jargon.
CI means coverage indicator.
And there's an entire category.
There's charts that you can look at for your
CI. But CI7
is pretty good. He's pretty far
along. Good job, buddy.
Thank you.
I was stoked
because I knew CI8
was right around the corner.
However, a round a year later, I am not
there.
I gained much more flaccid coverage and thickness around the bottom portion of my penis, too.
No roll of the glands yet.
That made this year in reflection a success to me.
Now I have been at this for over three years.
My method is sufficient, but I think it also has to do with my size.
I am quite large, no mean to brag.
Never met a small
dick on Reddit.
What also happened
during this year in reflection
was that my red iodine
experiment was a success.
It helped
de-keratinize my
glands and inner foreskin. As as well it broke down my scar line
the sensitivity is slowly coming back now for me now they are the matters of patience and
dedication my new year's resolution is to be as dedicated as ever to my restoration
i am confident that i will reach CI8 in record time.
What is the record?
It's more than a year.
This is not to say that I am tired at all.
Not to say that I'm tired at all.
I want to utilize the time that I have
in a best
in as best of a way possible for me
looking back though I discovered
foreskin restoration in high school
I know my journey would have ended long
ago
okay had I not
knowledge of my circumcision
depress me
is that how that
okay this is red had I not knowledge of my circumcision depress me. Is that how that?
Okay.
This is Reddit.
Had I not knowledge of my circumcision depress me.
It has been very tough to live with what has happened to me,
but foreskin restoration has kept me going.
The knowing that I will be whole again has been my drive.
I do have making up for lost time partly in mind. It's the only thing he has to live for.
Being at CI7, I am surely grateful for.
The way my penis hangs flaccid now encourages me to keep going.
I am emboldened by my flaccid penis.
Yeah.
While it may be soft soft I am hard with
vigor I don't know
a mini milestone for me
erect as well
I enjoy it
I guess
I definitely want this year to be the year I reach
CI8 with enough time to make
way for CI9
let's see what this year brings
I can't wait keep on tugging guys yeah keep on
tugging i was looking at the uh the real coverage index here on restoring foreskin.org rc uh zero
that's your uh that's your uh super tight cut uh then it goes uh up into, uh, you got, you got the R the, the seven there.
That's the large size penis coverage.
So he's just telling you that he has a nice penis.
So pretty cool.
Pretty cool.
Um, and then, uh, it gets eight.
That's partial erect coverage.
Uh, skin will say somewhat over the Corona during erections, but tends to retract.
Uh, and then if you get all the way up to 10, that is docking length.
Nice.
Yeah.
Live in the dream.
We have covered that,
right? Oh yeah.
I hope we've covered docking.
I think you're talking about something else.
Yeah.
Just as a reminder,
a foreskin fetish does not make sense
because the foreskin is part of a man's sex organ.
Agreed.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense, yeah.
Okay.
Just so we all remember this.
So since Mix put this document together
and we got to it,
a whole bunch of these Reddit people
have deleted their accounts and posts,
so that's fun.
Weird. But we do still have them in the document. My name is Redarkfire, we got to it. A whole bunch of these Reddit people have deleted their accounts and posts, so that's fun.
But we do still have them in the documents.
My name's Redarkfire,
and I'm circumcised,
but I don't feel less of a man,
nor do I feel weird about it.
Why do you men feel the need to restore foreskin?
Oh, no.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't recall the pain,
so I can't say it was a horrible traumatic experience,
but I've been reading lately about men trying to restore their foreskin.
Why?
Any benefits?
And then, Victor, your genital hat?
All right.
Genital hat?
That's RI-14.
Just a goddamn perfect name.
I love it. there's nothing wrong
with me i'm not weird is a common defensive response upon learning your penis has been
mutilated that's why it's so hard to change cultural opinion because most men can't bring
themselves to admit their penis was stolen from them that their penis isn't normal the defensive response is so
strong that it even makes some men say i'm glad i was circumcised to protect themselves
being born okay yeah being born a male there are basic sexual features that should have been
promised to you bonus features unique to being male things
that let you say i'll never know what having a vagina slash clitoris feels like but at least i
have an xxxxx i love i love how reddit it is to say uh being born male i was born with bonus sexual
features the frenulum the ridge band those sexual regions are just gone you'll never
know what they feel like your frenulum is part of the male experience has been robbed from you
just like a person born without eyes is robbed of the common human experience of eyesight
being born a male but not being able to enjoy those sexual parts is like winning a trip
to disneyland but you're not allowed to go on any rides and can only visit the food stands
this is finally what i was hoping the stock would be took a while to get there this is what i was
looking for the benefit of restore what a perfect metaphor really the benefit of restoring is to try to take back some
of that penis functionality most of us don't have under mountain frenulum or ridged band but we do
have inner skin and glands even if it's cracked and dry and covered in a layer of keratin which
it's not by growing enough foreskin to cover it, it can regain its moisture and sensitivity
and be able to function like a normal penis should.
Boy, guys, I'm really anticipating the comments on HFL.us in a little while.
That's going to be good.
Anyway, what's up on Major Styles?
Hey, what's up?
Yeah. Yeah, what's up? Yeah.
Yeah, think about it.
As a circumcised man, you'll never know what natural sex feels like.
Ponder that shit for a while.
Let it ruminate.
You could travel the world, make a million dollars, win all kinds of awards.
What? What?
Those things aren't going to be rewarding.
What kind of awards?
All kinds.
All kinds.
All kinds, yeah.
And yet, the most basic human experience, the pleasure of natural sex, has been taken
from you.
Nice.
The glory of whole body orgasms,
rolly wigs of pleasure,
firework ejaculation,
gone.
You're either okay with that,
or it makes you sick to your stomach.
No, sex just makes me sick to my stomach anyway. It fills you with apathy or anger one or the other. If you like
the men on the site you won't accept it. You won't let yourself be mutilated and
casually say yeah I'm cool with that. The benefits of foreskin restoration profound and if you choose to pursue it your sex life will
be immeasurably improved my account has been suspended oh dang it that's jw's again my dick's
just too good now uh so uh while you were looking at that,
I was trying to find out what a DTR is.
A DTR is a dual tension restorer.
It's a little hard to describe other than,
I mean,
if you look it up,
there are photos and the photos do explain it and they are dreadful.
But imagine, oh God, like, yeah, imagine something that looks really, really uncomfortable.
And part of it goes into your urethra and the other part of it, like, just pulls.
Is this something I can 3D print at home, Lemon?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you sure can.
It's definitely an image that says to me
worth it.
Are you also
sticking a rubber band into your urethra?
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
I don't think you actually are.
That's the other side.
No, the rubber band is pulling your foreskin.
I get it.
Okay.
I was looking at it backwards.
It was terrifying.
Anybody that thinks they're doing that has not tried doing it.
So anyway, my name's Erie Unit, and I've modified my homemade DTR to be more comfy.
It's more comfy.
The thing that you guys are looking at there,
the picture that you guys are looking at,
I made a more comfy version of that.
I put pillows on it.
This picture.
The gripper system no longer wants to pinch the fuck out of my penile skin.
The pics are safe for work.
No, I can't imagine they are.
Isn't that the point?
Yeah, but it doesn't want to.
It still does it.
It still does it.
But it sort of regrets it.
But it says, please, please,
I don't want to do this, please.
And then the picture that I put on,
the picture that I put up, not picture that I put up, not only, like, is, has a bunch of, like, sharp plastic edges, but also it is very dirty.
Yeah.
Is that a quarter?
It's very, yep.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
So, anyway, then I put another pick up here.
This is what it used to look like.
I replaced the inner cone with a translucent bottle cap
so there's no more wobbliness on the gripper system.
And then I glued a little tube that goes over the shaft
so it can only go back and forth on the shaft
instead of being all wobbly wobbly.
Oh, you clamp the skin on it.
Oh, boy.
So you screw the bottle cap onto the skin? Is that what it is? Oh, you clamp the skin on it. Oh, boy.
So you screw the bottle cap onto the skin?
Is that what it is?
Oh, my God.
Part of it's definitely how a Nerf dart it looks like.
Yeah.
Did you notice the safety pin on the other side?
Yeah.
There's a lot of safety pins.
I don't like any of them.
And then, Boots, you're a toasty pigeon.
I am toasty pigeon.
Points for creativity, but this thing looks incredibly painful.
Nope, it's not.
It's like how everyone else describes using the actual DTR. About an hour and a half.
Oh, so about an hour.
Wait.
About an hour, an hour, and about an hour,
an hour. Yeah. So one hour
per hour. No, no. Yep. Hour
and hour. Can you do the sentence,
please? Oh, I'm sorry. About an hour and a hour
and a half at max. That's it.
Tension is how long it
takes before the skin starts to get
sore, and that's simply from it
being under tension. I can even
feel like I have something
on my penis otherwise. Now that I've modded this to where it's actually comfortable to wear.
Well, I'm glad to know it's comfortable. How do you keep it clean? It looks like a lot of
porous materials wouldn't want to get an infection. I don't clean the outer cone of the gripper.
The only thing that really collects bacteria
and dead skin cells is the inner gripper part
and the push plate.
This thing is able to be completely disassembled
like the actual DTR.
So cleaning is a breeze.
I just wash it in the shower.
He strips and reassembles it like a Marine.
Blindfolded.
It's that scene in Forrest Gump.
This is by Dick Tucker.
There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Well, good job, man.
Way to come up with a creative budget option for dual tension device.
Glad it's working for you.
Thanks, ma!
And meant to say sore
and not for, lol.
And then
he leaves your plur skeleton.
Do you follow a tutorial to make this?
Nope! I just did it!
Right off the top of my head.
Oh, good job.
A true hero of reddit okay so uh so victor um if you will take uh this next thread here is called dilemma with
talking to my gf about my restoration yes i do have a dilemma. Oh.
I mean, if the whole relationship is going to fall apart just because of your...
No, wait.
Nope, nope.
Original post.
Do it out of the dock.
Okay.
I was going to say it's...
Probably been deleted.
Yeah, it's been deleted.
Everyone's deleted.
Yeah, okay.
All right, there we go.
All right.
Cleaver name is my name
um great good uh so i was cleaved yes yes oh yeah hey everyone i've been restoring for
two to two and a half years on and off i have made some great progress, but I am just not over the dreaded hump. Now.
Sounds great.
The hump is CI4.
No, onto my dilemma.
I have recently just got into a relationship with my girlfriend and we have been together for about a month.
We haven't had sex yet, but we have talked about it.
And she asked me the question if I was circumcised.
I responded yes, and I asked her if that was her preference when it comes to guys and sex, and she said yes.
She also responded on top of that, saying she just hates the way an uncircumcised penis looks, and that they look gross to her.
So my question to everyone is, how do I go about telling me girlfriend that i am trying to restore my foreskin
i mean i really care about her but i don't want my dick to make her feel repulsed and have her
get turned off by it okay i want to please her and i feel if i continue to restore when i'm with her
that our sex life will suffer from it so please help me out fellas any suggestions oh man what
always the best move the best move is to say, Reddit, how should I talk to my girlfriend?
Abusively.
Yeah, so my name is RestoredGuy100.
If I were in that situation, I would continue to restore.
I would not let a girl's uninformed preferences dictate my behavior.
Uninformed.
You don't even know what a dick is lady.
Yeah.
You've never even been on the subreddit.
You can't even have a foreskin fetish.
Yeah.
Nor can I.
For we all know,'m not gonna scroll up
there are plenty of girls out there if this one is totally turned off by foreskins
then there are plenty of others who would appreciate the advantages for the female
partner of the foreskin i think it's the partner of the foreskin.
Yeah, I malpronounce you man and foreskin.
Just go out to the bars and tell all the ladies you have your foreskin.
The smart ones.
Please, please, ladies, one at a time.
One at a time, please.
Show them your chivos and show them your DTR.
Yeah, it may be time to tell her Goodby.
My name is Communist Festo.
Oh, fuck you.
No, it's good.
It's a good name.
It's a good name.
You like my good name.
You really like my good name.
It doesn't...
Okay.
Sex is a mutual agreement and activity.
If she so demands that you remain circumcised,
which is what she said, right?
She demanded that. Do you remember how
we can all infer that she demanded that?
If she so demands that you remain
circumcised, that is what
pleasures her.
So if she seeks to be
pleasured, then it
is only hypocrisy for
her to not allow
you to also
feel pleasure.
To her?
No, no, I have more things to say
about your girlfriend. Really? Tell me more.
A lot of fucking Ferengi here
in this subreddit.
Let's find out what other subreddits you're on.
I can read. I have a couple guesses.
I know a lot of
things about your girlfriend.
To her, your dick is a mere
dildo.
If you aren't feeling pleasure
whilst you must
pleasure her,
that is not true sex.
Ha!
Ha!
Hey, I'm
Nasty Panannis.
Yes, you are.
Almost three years.
You never seen each other naked.
I would just find a new girl.
But good luck with whatever you choose.
Okay, so yeah, everyone here can read.
Everyone here can definitely read.
Yeah, can you read your edit now? Yeah, everyone here can read. Everyone here can definitely read. Yeah, Vicar, can you read your edit now?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
So after hearing all that, I mean, wow.
So many people throwing their input into my scenario that I am in.
So first off, I would like to thank...
You guys are real good about reading into things.
So first off, I would like to thank everyone for their advice.
I truly do appreciate it.
Now, I will say some of the comments I feel are extreme to a certain extent.
I do agree with a large majority of you in saying that I should calmly talk to her about it and educate her on the issue.
Wait, somebody said that?
Somebody actually said talk to the woman?
somebody actually said talk to the woman i mean after all you all are probably right that she is simply misinformed on the topic of foreskin capital f that's how that's how you start i agree that a
relationship is about compromise but i do believe if i am unhappy with something about my body
she should support me in my decision i think you should get home close the door and say first of
all you are misinformed so when the time is right i will find a way to educate her and see where it goes from
there i will try and give you guys an update on our talk whenever that happens to be but again
thank you all for your input and as always keep on tugging uh so while you were looking at that one, Victor, Boots was just looking at a Cleaver Names sort of output.
And what else did you post?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Boots, take it, please.
Yeah.
So Cleaver Names 17 days ago posted device while working out.
Yep.
You're a CI3, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
So I'm kind of a newbie to this, but I'm working on it.
That is loose cut.
Thank you.
I don't see boot cut force.
That's what we're going to call boots rain gear from now on.
That's where boots is at.
More of a bell bottom.
Just a general question, but does anyone wear their device while they work out if so has anyone be able to withstand longer tugging sessions because of this
wait so to start off because of this yeah the blood flow oh yeah yeah i'm doing all this
oh no you've got you've got no you've got Tuggers high Listen I gotta get my gains in every direction
You can't skip foreskin day
That's the right joke Victor
So to start off I've been wanting to up my hours of device
use and i figured why not wear my device to the gym while i lift and work out why not why not why
not why not so i did it a few days ago and not only did it not slip or come off but i noticed
that i can keep my device on for longer while not feeling that burning or discomfort feeling from keeping the device on for too long.
Anyone wondering what device I'm using?
It's the Fit V2, which is a direct air device.
Okay, here I go.
Yeah, we're all googling it.
It's crazy because before I would only last like 1.5 to 2 hours.
Oh, no.
Does it have a pinch at some times?
Okay, you're going to have to hold off while I finish reading this.
Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
Oh my god.
Before I had to take a break.
Now when I use it and wear it at the gym,
I can wear it for well over 2.5 plus hours
or even longer before I start feeling that discomfort
and needing to take a break.
Has anyone else done this
or seen the same thing happening to them?
I'm generally curious.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks, and KOT, keep on trucking?
Keep on tugging.
Keep on tugging, of course.
I found an instructional video.
Victor's advice is do not try this at home.
I found an instructional video.
Victor's advice is do not try this at home.
So I'm on foreskin-restoration-devices.com.
Foreskin Restoration Devices is the home of the foreskin inflation tool?
Yep.
That's right, the foreskin inflation tool.
So you get several things.
The first thing is an alligator clip and the lid of a Nalgene bottle.
The second thing is like a like a jello mold that looks like breasts.
And then the third thing is weights.
So you're just building a apparatus that you hang from your dick.
And and then, you know, for hours while you're working out. I'm going to read the first four items in the top nav of foreskin-restoration-devices.com.
Home, products, sizing, liability waiver.
Yeah, the liability waiver is uh is really really great and last instructional video
and i'm really mad i watched it but that was my choice so one of the things in the waiver
is explicitly an agreement that there are no directions on how to use this fifty dollars this is also an impressively ugly website oh yeah yeah you know
victor everyone it's just everyone's own journey you know yes um i'd just like to read a short
line from the front page of the site it says yeah please european gentlemen please consider shopping at HTTPS forskinnedit.com That's just a page that has
an email address and a notify
me button.
Just notify me about any
sort of bullshit penis thing you
can think of. I'll buy it. I'll buy
all of it. Alright, it says info at
foreskin.com for questions. There's a button at the bottom that says
share, tweet, pin it. So I
hit tweet and it just
brings up my Twitter and it says
it gives me the option to tweet foreskin.com
so I'm just going to do that. Okay, great.
Great, great, great.
Great. Wait, is it
just foreskin.com, nothing else?
Yeah. Yeah.
There's some more threads here from the Reddit.
We've got, will futonInnerForeskinHeal
and StitchesOnMyDick.
Help, please.
But we're going to move away from
the Reddit section. Wait, really?
We're not going to do the next one?
The whole internet is not Reddit, Heelys.
Alright, alright. Take it, Heelys.
Okay.
Okay.
For those circumcised at birth,
have you confronted your parents about it?
Oh, no.
My name's Rack Salesman.
I feel like confronting my mother
about it
and telling her how much you ruined my life
and how uncomfortable about it and telling her how much she ruined my life. And how
uncomfortable
and dry and cracked
my penis will be.
Yeah, keep going.
In this one pathetic short life
I got.
But on the other hand, I think
to myself, what's the point?
Oh, do you? Do you? That sounds like
a depressed person.
Yeah. No, I'm not
depressed. I just have a circumcised dick.
Yeah, no, you're right.
Wouldn't you be depressed?
It's not going to change
anything. I'm curious
to know if anyone here has talked to their parents
about it and how it turned out.
to know if anyone here has talked to their parents about it and how it turned out.
And there's answers, but we'll just go ahead and skip those.
Sorry, I just, yeah.
I want to read just a brief excerpt of the person who did that.
Oh, okay, great.
Needless to say, this didn't go exactly as I had imagined.
That's it.
So she didn't lift you up on her shoulders, huh?
Okay, weird.
So that was the Reddit section.
There's more there.
Thank you, Mix.
But we are going to be moving on
to the Foreskin Restoration
Intactivist Network.
And my name is Violator.
Oof. God.
Boo. I'm sorry that my name is
Violator, but here we go.
So I posted some
jerk-off instruction photo from
Luscious.net. I don't know why that
relates. But anyway,
I overheard some
shit. I could use a little
support today.
I've been doing pretty
well. More good days than
bad. Still get upset sometimes
and everything, but
way better than I was a couple years ago.
Yesterday I was at a small sandwich shop.
Eating lunch.
I was at a small table.
Very close to a group of young women.
They just so happened.
To be discussing a friend of theirs.
Who is pregnant.
The subject of circumcision came up.
And one of them said something along the lines of.
I don't know why people are concerned.
Over whether it reduces pleasure or not.
They can still come. And that's all that matters.
And then another one said something like, it's a parent's choice and it's a cultural
thing, so those wackos need to stay out of it.
The crazy thing about that whole deal was that one of them who had been kind of quiet
during the convo spoke up and said that her boyfriend was one of those wackos and he'd
been stretching his skin to try to make a new foreskin.
They all laughed and seemed to think that it was impossible
but one of them was saying some super
fucked up things about how that's disrespecting
his parents' choice they made for him
and that it was some kind of huge asshole
for trying to defy them in such a way.
I was angry. And I knew that
if I said anything it'd probably be a huge fucking scene.
Yes. Yes you
would. So what'd you do?
Okay. So I finished my sandwich and left.
I know that these women, in quotes,
I know that these women,
they were just a bunch of dumb fucking cunts with a K,
but the thing they said won't get out of my head.
It's really difficult for me to cleanse the anger from my mind.
I'm a violator.
Yeah, yeah, Boots, you're parsec skin.
Yeah, that's me.
I mean, parsec skin.
Fuck them.
Those are exactly the kind of women I refuse to even think about dating.
Don't let it bother you.
They are brainwashed sheeple.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I wrote this in 2016.
People can still be teenagers in 2016, Brutes.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Oh my god, okay.
See about getting some info cards from blood-stained men to carry
around to give to these ignoramies.
Oh no!
Ignoramices. Oh, I don't think I want
to open up that tab. Oh no, we're doing this.
No, no. Okay.
Okay.
The first image that comes up is pretty good because it's just a
loving tribute of a man with his dick who got shot
with a gun, it looks like.
Jonathan Conte,
1981 to 2016.
Oh, my God.
There's a photo!
You can hand out to people at diners.
There's a photo. You can hand out to people at diners. There's a photo of a bro
like looking at
like a banana that he put ketchup
on and being sad.
The pictures
of all these people with these
white jumpsuits with the red
stains of their crutches.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a whole bunch of pictures.
There's a whole bunch of pictures of guys with white jumpsuits.
And, you know, other genders, too.
There's women there.
There's women there as well.
Solidarity, baby.
Circumcision horror, bloodstained men.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Cool.
Another documentary called The Uncut Truth. Clever. Yes. man. Cool. Another documentary called The Uncut Truth.
Clever.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Victor, you are a lady.
I am a lady.
And you want to write something from, this is from my wife's perspective.
Yeah.
From my wife's perspective. Yeah. From my wife's perspective.
I guess she's borrowing my account
because my name is Weldon Pipe.
I hope I am writing this in the correct section.
Anyway, I am the wife of Weldon Pipe
and just wanted to share my feelings in his journey
as he has told me there is not a lot
from the women's perspective
and I wanted to help fix that anyway a little about me because i'm sure you guys care i am
what i am kind of what might be considered a modern day hippie in some aspect i like things
natural and how they are supposed to be i have two kids and i extremely pro-breastfeeding and anti-formula.
It's the food we were given to feed our babies.
When they start solids, I make their baby food from fresh fruits and veggies instead of that store-bought baby food crap.
And we are saving to buy our homestead where we can grow our own food and raise our own livestock instead of eating GMO and hormone-filled food they sell at stores. So despite all of this,
it may come as a surprise I was a bit skeptical when my husband said he didn't want to circumcise
our son and also wanted to restore his foreskin. Real quick before I get into my journey,
because real quick, I guess. Yep, real quick, real quick. A couple of 95 paragraphs, real quick.
I would like to point out something.
Prior to my husband, I have slept with an intact man,
and I didn't even realize it.
Having used a condom, I obviously didn't experience the rolling action
that is described when being with an intact man versus a cut one.
But anyway, like I said, I didn't even know he was intact
because he was already aroused
and as everyone knows when a man is aroused and retracted the penis looks pretty much exactly the
same aesthetically how dare you anyway after this had happened a friend of mine who had been with
his brother had said to me isn't it gross how they aren't circumcised and i was a bit taken aback
and thought to myself he wasn't i doubt it because
i didn't notice it being any different but just for the sake of girl talk i agreed with her and
said yeah it was so gross thank you media for portraying how disgusting it is to be uncut
and make women think that and give judgment on it oh yeah no they're always doing those news
programs anyway the whole reason i am bringing
this up is because it stuck out to me that it wasn't gross and wasn't weird that thing i didn't
notice through a condom thing i didn't notice that it stuck out to me the thing i didn't notice
got it okay uh okay let's fast conversation stuck out but that. Okay, let's fast forward a bit.
At about 20 weeks pregnant with my son, I went into preterm labor and was experiencing consistent contractions.
Protocol to the hospital, they start asking you generic questions.
Are you going to be using an epidural?
Who is your health insurance provider?
Are you going to circumcise your son?
To the last question, immediately responded yes my husband interrupted
me and said whoa wait we haven't discussed this and i stopped and was confused because that's what
you're supposed to do again thank you media after the nurse left the room we talked about a bit
and i said to him all right well we can research this but bottom line comes down to
i don't have a penis so this really isn't my decision if you don't want to circumcise him i
respect that the hospital treated my preterm labor and after a night stay at the hospital we were
released okay that's great that's great uh so uh so skip uh skip to the second last paragraph like
11 paragraphs and exactly i started my own research myself
i looked up foreskin restoration pros of being intact etc who knew pinterest had so much info
ha ha oh i'm not doing that i started reading things about a rolling sensation
with foreskin restoration don Don't pin it.
And how it makes sex feel better because it's like the man's way of providing lubrication.
And I started getting excited.
I would think, wow, this all sounds great.
I can't wait to see what happens.
And my husband is about one third of the way.
And let me tell you, the experience is amazing.
Sex is getting better and better it would sometimes be uncomfortable
especially if he hadn't taken care of the hairs that can grow on the shaft and who wants sex to
be uncomfortable and i caught myself just daydreaming about his foreskin coming back
and the new sensations it was bringing this is definitely his wife writing this
my husband has said to me growing his skin back
is being like given a brand new toy
a toy he wants to constantly
this was written by a real doll
as if men need to be
more obsessed with their penis
it's written by a second hand real doll
based on the first two paragraphs
and I agree
it is like a brand new toy for me
as well there are nights when the kids are in bed
and he is doing manual tugging i ask if i can help no that's not
maybe maybe that's weird but i want to be as supportive as i can because i know how important
this is to him it's so important my skin and pull on it for an hour and a half. It's so important that one of his Christmas presents this year was the DA
hyper restore and a retaining cone.
Okay.
He was previously only using the TLC X and manual.
Look at all of them.
Restore training.
I am so excited for him and loving going through this journey with him.
I wanted to
put my feelings out there to maybe help anyone who is unsure how their significant others will feel
because like i said i was skeptical and unsure about the whole thing but i'm now 110 on board
and i'm so excited to see how much better everything is going to get so boots you just
posted a picture of a bunch of different apparatus.
Oh my God, that's a fourth grade science project right there.
That's a deluxe heroin kit.
It's better than a science museum.
There's a giant syringe attached to a long piece of PVC pipe.
A catheter tube, yeah.
Yeah, and then there's like a funnel and then a balloon and a rubber band.
And that's your Christmas gift.
Like, that's like $1.12 worth of plastic right there.
You didn't go to the website.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Levitt.
It's $70 worth of stuff.
Oh, okay.
Okay. Well, that'sitt. It's $70. Oh, okay. Okay.
Well, that's fair.
That's fair.
Send this kid a timeout because this kid blows the balloon up.
It now comes with 25 balloons.
You used to only come with five.
My name is Athrowaway.
I'm posting in foreskinrestoration.vbulletin.net.
I'm posting in foreskinrestoration.vbulletin.net I am about CI2 with roughly half an inch of inner skin
from the scar line to the glands.
Unsure of the relevancy, but it may help.
My erections are slightly tight, but not uncomfortable.
And I cannot bend it past 70 degrees without it becoming strained and then painful.
Can I tell you some more about my dick?
70 degrees from what?
70 degrees.
Okay.
If you can bend your erection 70 degrees.
No, 70 degrees Celsius.
That's friction heat. You're looking for some hot stuff this evening
um uh okay so here's a thing about uh my foreskin and not me as a human being
masturbation is more of a chore to me than anything it can take upwards of an hour to
climax if i'm not trying to rush.
Essentially, the only reason I masturbate is to relieve sexual tension.
Oh, is that why you masturbate?
That's why I masturbate, yep.
It's essentially the only reason.
That's weird.
Besides the climax, I don't really derive much pleasure from it.
It's more like scratching an itch than anything.
Sort of like, huh, bladder is full.
Guess I better go use the bathroom.
Don't get me wrong.
With my libido, I masturbate daily.
No more than once per day.
And it certainly feels okay.
Yeah, I'm not a freak.
I'm not a freak. But it certainly feels okay.
But it's just that it's not amazing.
It's not okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Okay and necessary.
Like taking a piss.
Like that Tool song.
Life feeds on life.
Yeah, so me cumming is like taking a piss.
Anyway, as I restore my foreskin and glands,
I will probably cut back on manual stimulation.
I mean, no, I won't, because I'll be tugging on it for hours.
But anyway, and simply induce lucid wet dreams for a while.
That's right.
There's actually a lucid wet dreams
document that was just put in the hopper.
Oh, good.
I don't need to Google that right now.
No, no, no.
I hope that has a similarly brain-melting
experience for me.
I want dibs.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
It's called Redditors Practicing
Lucid Dreaming for Horny Reasons.
Anyway,
okay, so I can leave my member
alone as it heals. So, what was the difference
like for you after you had it restored?
How much inner skin do you
have left, and how relevant
is it to your pleasure?
I get 100% of the physical stimulation from the corona.
Gotta say, how much inner skin do you have left is just a haunting, haunting phrase.
How much inner skin do you have left?
Fuck.
How much inner skin do you have left?
Fuck.
Okay.
What about this next thing?
Go for it.
Sure.
Okay.
Frottage.
I'm Riot1996.
I'm not sure if this is supposed to go here, but I guess it's a good place as any.
While I've not done it before, I did some research on the concept of mutual masturbation or frat as sexual practice between males. And what I gathered is what makes fraught
a more feasible method of sexual interaction
is the intact status of the fremulum
on the underside of the penis.
I'd just like to remind you that a foreskin fetish
does not make sense because the foreskin
is a part of the man's sex organ.
No, this is the scientific
idea of frot, my good man.
Um,
so, which are
stimulated by the contact
between penises during frot.
Overall sensitivity loss
notwithstanding, I'm
curious as to how feasible
frottage is with circumcised
penises. Could you
rub a circumcised penis?
I'm not sure you could.
Can it still be pleasurable?
Or is it just not
enough, so to speak?
Okay. What have we learned
from any of this?
I don't know how we're possibly skipping raw milks posts yes yeah yeah i want yeah lemon come on never mind never mind
take a boots oh no victor wants it yeah victor wants it i'm raw milk what research was this
firsthand what would be a possible way to even
determine an answer to this question get four dudes two uncut and two cut put eegs and skin
galvanometers on them have an uncut guy fraught and then circumcise him and fraud again to tell
the difference why is this even a question just rub your dick on another one see if you enjoy it
case closed the true hero all right what did we learn from any of this just rub your dick on
another one see what happens rub a dick on a dick i I mean, I don't know.
Oh my god, a yoin dip?
Yeah?
Two down from raw milk?
Okay, yeah sure.
Yeah.
I'm a yoin dip.
Is this supposed to be a G-rated response?
Then I can do that.
I'm vouching for fraudulent practice.
I was doing it right before I knew about restoration.
It was with my cousin.
Oh.
Okay.
During the good old puberty days.
Oh.
He was experimenting while I already knew what I was doing.
That's not good days at all.
We both enjoyed ourselves even though we're both circumcised.
He was plan base.
What I learned is that people will do anything to not take an inventory of their emotions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Because like all things, it starts from this thing of like,. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because like all things,
like it starts from like this thing of like,
well, you know, there's this thing
and it's like, okay, sure.
That is absolutely,
like there is a standing
with which you can say
that this different thing makes different things.
But at the point that you're like,
that ruined my life
no your your life was yeah your life was ruined for other reasons well it's it's it's always really
good to have like you know a a very specific thing to hone in on and blame for uh for everything
being miserable in your life especially if it's your mother yeah yeah yeah yeah and it might as well be your mother yeah and like i you know i get the concept of like i i didn't like okay this at the same time
like fucking get over it but uh boy i don't know and i think there's an argument to be made against
against circumcision sure yeah i don't disagree that. It just didn't ruin your life.
Yeah.
Anyway, our website, thefbl.us, our forum is Ball Pits, and let's go away now.
Bye. Stretching up your tightness, good enough that your phone grows
We are all in favor of this motion
Stretching up your tightness, time to open up your phone If Lemon's within a mile radius and you try to tell a joke, he's probably getting interrupted.
I hate how true that is.
Genuinely.
Oh no,
women's sad now.
We better restore his foreskin.
I hope tonight's
topic can lift his spirits.
I feel incomplete.
Just tug on his heartstrings and other things.
We're going to rebuild your confidence, Lemon.