The Fighter & The Kid - A Powerful Bunch | JFK Files Released | TFATK Ep. 1073

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

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want to say hi? The JFK files have been released guys. 80,000 pages is it or something like that? But this is what the smart people do. Way smarter than me. You put those files in the chat, GPT, and then you have them give you a summary. There you go. And that's what I did. You did. Very smart. I believe that there's nothing that's here. Israel. What? It's not Israel.

No, it's crazy. You can't believe it. But there's nothing in it about Israel, is there? Oh, see, you know what you did? I didn't do anything. Oh, you haven't looked into it? No, I know. I don't have a side here.

I don't. The man's dead. It's terrible. Yeah. But it's just confirmation for the hard cores that the CIA, the Israel, and the mafia basically all work together to get this done. That's what it is. Is there a smoking gun there? There's really no smoke. It's just they're all in cahoots. There's a lot of evidence, especially in facts, that they were behind it.

there's a lot of evidence, especially in like facts, that they were behind it. What, give me, I need, I'm going to need something, sir, that I can point to. You're going to have to give me something. Well, this one's interesting. Go to, so the CIA requested that redact all the Israel talk in there. It was mentioned so many times. Oh, interesting. But that one's whatever. Now, the reason why Israel's important, because remember at the time, JFK, he had a meeting, right? And they wanted to go to war with Cuba.

They wanted to give missiles to Israel. And JFK was like, hold up. He saw all the money. It was just this business, like warfare was. He's like, I'm not doing any of this shit. Realized CIA was lying to him. He was like, no, I don't want to be involved with any of this.

And he wanted to shut down the CIA. That's where they're like, oh, we tried to play nice. He definitely knew that the CIA was behaving extra judicious. They were doing things on their own. Yeah, and he was like, no. So he was trying to expose them and basically shut it down. The CIA went, okay, say less. So then Israel wanted nukes. He's like, that less. So then, and then Israel wanted nukes.

He's like, that's not happening. We're not giving you nukes. That's not happening. And so, and then also in Cuba, the, the mafia had big ties into the gambling out there. So they want to take out Castro and the CIA is like, yeah, we got to go to war with Cuba and JFK is like, no, that's not, that's not on us. They already tried with the bad pigs before. Correct. Bad pigs was a huge disaster.

Which he didn't support. Right. Which he didn't support, remember. So, I mean, the Israel, you know, trying to take out the, before these files got released, they want to redact all the mentions of Israel. That's very interesting. Yeah. Israel is literally the only thing they're requesting to be redacted.

And it's all over. I mean. And it's all over. There you go. That makes sense. That's why they never made them public. Because this was pointing to Israeli collusion. Wow.

Mossad. Wow. Mossad might have assassinated an American president. It seems like it was, but it's... That's why Israel couldn't have that outfit. That's a disaster. But there's no smoking gun that's just one guy. Well, all Jack Rubenstein Jack Ruby. His last name is Jewish. Yes Yeah, and now he was afraid that the jews would be blamed for it. That's what he said

Yeah, but Jack Ruby Rubenstein also met with Lee Harvey Oswald a week before the assassination which is Nuts. Yeah, so he knew him. Yes, they knew each other. There's something here. Yeah, no shit I gotta look more into it. It's it's fine. I think it's it's fun. You can't change anything. It's fun Well, wait a minute at this point. It's fun But that also be a legend met with Lee Harvey Oswald at a nightclub weeks before JFK was killed. Yes What's that tell you and then then Jack Ruby was he wasn't high up in the Jewish Mafia? But he was he was like, uh, he was in the He actually had connections to the mob. Oh, he ran planes for them sold plane equipment in in texas

Rubenstein was a massade Asset low level they didn't want the the but the what's interesting about Lee Harvey Oswald is the ci Was tracking for like four years before he did this so So he didn't really have any, it doesn't seem like it. I haven't read through all of it. He didn't really have help, but they intercepted his mail before it came to him and knew he was playing this and just didn't stop it. But wait.

And now I know you're gonna go off on this. I think similar to the Trump assassination, I think they're aware that there was an attempt and they're like, okay, good luck. If it happens that I don't like would leave I know you Also, I think they were tracking for years. Yeah, they're very he's a communist right supports Russia went out to Russia We're tracking him for four years before all this. Okay. He was on the radar like a motherfucker He never got taken off. They intercepted his mail, was well aware that he wanted to take out JFK. Okay, so he did.

Yeah, and then they went, okay. Okay. So they didn't help him. They didn't stop him. So here's the theory. Which is basically helping him. Here's the theory then. Is the theory then that they knew that they had this guy who wanted to kill JFK? He was an American who went to Cuba and I think the USSR and all that. Okay. Is it possible since he met with Jack Ruby that Ruby was working

on behalf of Mossad or Israel and Ruby said, we want you to kill the president. We're going to set you up here, do this, that and the other thing. He kills him and then Ruby knows he's going to kill, then he has to shoot Oswald to keep him quiet. Yeah. There's that. And then, and then Ruby was, you know, because obviously Ruby had to kill him because he knew he was going to be fingered on this. Yep. Now what else is interesting? Do you have that other article I sent you, Chin of that? There's a CIA operative who, um, that, uh, which one's this? Um, that's the Israeli intelligence. Um, Oh, so this one's interesting. This is super interesting.

So this is from Charlie Kirk. He goes, Charlie Kirk goes, I think this is the most interesting thing out of all the documents. So this is from the files. This is, I'm not, you know, just bullshitting here. So he goes the day after the assassinations, Gary Underhill, who's a major character in all this Gary Underhill, Washington, the hurry, Gary on the day after the assassinations, Gary Underhill, who's a major character in all this, Gary Underhill left Washington. Look up who Gary Underhill is after this. He works for the CIA. Late in the evening, he showed up at a home of a friend's in New Jersey.

He was very agitated. A small clique within the CIA was responsible. And he says, a small clique was responsible for the assassination. He confided. And he was afraid for his life. ready for this would probably would have leave the country. Less than six months later, Underhill was found shot to death in his Washington apartment was ruled a suicide. The coroner ruled a suicide. Wow. So Underhill had been an intelligence agent during World War II, was recognized as authority

on limited warfare and small arms. A researcher and writer on military affairs, he was on a first name basis with many of the top rats in the Pentagon. He was also on intimate terms with a number of high ranking CIA officials. He was one of the agencies on people who performed special assignments. At one time he had been a friend of Samuel Cummings of Inter-Armarco, the arms broker that numbers among its customers the CIA and ironically ironically clients sporting goods of Chicago from whence the mail order Carcino allegedly was purchased with a gun. Yes. Oh

Shit from dude. Listen, come on. I'm sorry. I I hey guess what I Want to apologize to everybody because I've always been skeptical you have and now I 100% believe the CIA was involved or but now with the small clique in the CIA which was working with Israel. Assad, yeah, Israel and then also but also the Chicago mafia which is Jewish. Wait but then that's high treason because it's not Israel though right? It would be the small clique within the CIA unless the small clique in the CIA is Jewish and they were actually double agents was for Israel. It seems like those three corporations were all involved in making sure this got done.

Because Kennedy was against war, against the nukes to Israel, was trying to shut down the mafia. This is wild. Cuba, yeah. This is wild. It's interesting. It also makes sense as to why the, um, why this has been kept secret for so long. Cause Israel has a

lot of sway over American politics and for that matter, probably, um, everything. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it'd be, and one of the reasons for that is APAC and, and, you know, again, I don't like these conspiracies and I'm not saying anything anti-Semitic or anything else, but it is true if you are a politician, if you don't show loyalty to Israel, you're going to have a hard time because there's a lot of money that comes from those channels that keep people, you know, as Sheldon Adelson before he died, you were not running, you were not going to be a Republican senator

or congressman unless you kiss that ring. Pete I mean, you got to give it up to Israel. I mean, the power from that small area. Jared Well, let me just, yeah, for all you guys out there who don't like Israel and don't like Jews and all that, let me just please say a couple of things about that. When you are a tiny minority in the world and you're responsible for also all the things you guys enjoy, like, I don't know if you like Hollywood, if you like all the stories, half the songs Elvis sang,

they were written by a Jewish guy who I knew, we can keep going if you like stainless steel, if you like the Geiger counter, if you like virtual reality, all these things. If you look at the contribution that this tiny minority has given us as innovators, they also knew throughout history that they were always the scapegoat. They were always the one that were going to be killed. Always, always, always. They were blamed for Christ's death and all that stuff. So at the end of the day, if you're-

And they might be guilty of some of that stuff. If you're okay to say that they did some bad things, they're involved in some bad. But if your survival depends on, you know, if your survival depends on something, and you're surrounded by everybody who wants to kill you, you're going to figure out a way to game the most powerful country in the world for your own survival.

Sure. And that's always been the case. And if you didn't do that, you did what? You went back to the ovens of Dachau and Treblinka and Auschwitz. So we can keep going with that, but I see there's a lot of anti-Semitism in the world right now and there's a lot of blaming Israel. This ain't going to help. Yeah.

You know? Yeah, it's not. No. It's not. It's just a, it's just a, it's a, know? Yeah, it's not. No. It's not. It's just a, it's just a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a tie. They're a powerful bunch. You gotta show a little respect. Well.

Powerful bunch. Creative, innovative. Powerful bunch. Over half the white volunteers during the civil rights movement in this country that were, that were there to march for black liberation. Over half the white volunteers were Jewish. How about that? Powerful bunch. Yeah, great innovators, but.

Bad athletes. Probably not the best athletes. As my friend, his son is Jewish. Powerful bunch. His son is Jewish, he's this great, my friend's son is Jewish, really athletic kid, kicking ass, obsessed with basketball. His dad goes Jewish, he's this great. My friend's son is Jewish, really athletic kid, kicking ass, obsessed with basketball. His dad goes, listen to me right now.

Listen to me right now. We're Jewish. You're not ever playing in the NBA. It's not happening. But have fun. Have fun. Yeah, they're in hustle. You could probably own a team.

Fantastic. Powerful bunch. Anyway, this is not good for Israel. This is tough. Well, you got to show a little respect. It's pretty. A lot of respect. To be able to pull that off.

Powerful bunch. You know? Throughout history, super powerful bunch. Right? Very small group of people. Right. Right. Powerful bunch. So let's take a little break.

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Let me explain something to you. The Middle East doesn't need Israel to be at war with each other. Look at the Sunni-Shia divide. Do a little history. They have no problem being tribal and fighting with each other. And neither does the world in general.

Nobody Russian, Taiwan and China don't need the Jews to be mad at each other. Mm-mm. That's a bunch. All right. I was feeling kind of. Keep being around the bush. I got to speak up for the Israelis and for the Jews.

Yeah, you're a little off. It's all right. Yeah. I just, we live in a time. I'm going to have myself a magic mind. Do it. This episode, sponsored by this episode of the JFK files and the inconvenient truth of what's going on.

I took them forever to release it. You buy magic mind. Woo. So what else are we going to learn? I mean, it is interesting. Well, the more stuff keep coming up. You got me all in now. Yeah.

When you're like, there's really no swung down. I'm like, God damn it, dude. Well, there's ton of stuff, but now, now I believe now. Yeah, when you're like, there's really no spoon gun. I'm like, god damn it dude There's ton of stuff. But now now I believe now chat GBT They're gonna miss some stuff and like grocks gonna miss some stuff. You're gonna get guys like Charlie Kirk and like That Wallace cat who's gonna go page by page and more Yes, and you you'll get the the nitty-gritty on it powerful, but Charlie Kirk is so smart He's 31 years old. I listen to him.

No college degree. He's so smart. Did you hear him absolutely dog walk Newsom? Oh my God. Best thing Newsom can do. I can't get enough of it. Best thing Newsom can do. Oh, I get into the belly of the beast.

I think it's a Hail Mary. He's lost all notoriety. He's trying to do his thing. The only thing he can do is go, hey guys, I was wrong. I'm a Republican now. That's it 100% we'd be like you know what you won't you and I would be like you know what not a bad guy if you admit you were wrong I can't you admit you were wrong and that you sucked it at what

I just don't trust them yeah even if you did that like what's what's his agenda here just he's a lifeline politician yes sleazy sleazy, sleazy guy. Yeah. 80,000 files. Yeah, I don't have enough time. There are 6 million pages in total I read. No, 80,000. But a lot of them have already been made. It's 80,000. Yeah, this is a big-

A lot of them are hard to read. Yeah. I started going through them like, ah, this is above my pay grade. I'm not smart enough to- Yeah, but you're gonna have people that are gonna parse through this shit. Oh, Candice Holmes is probably halfway through yeah I love her dude 100% this

is really interesting because he clearly I think he probably did it but he was put up to it I don't know if he was put up to it he also like someone made this point like if he was a CIA like you know intelligence or whatever he's working with him he was doing a bad job you know intelligence or whatever he's working with him He was doing a bad job of laying low like he would do Protests for communism he'd go on radio shows. He'd do all sorts of media. That's not what those guys do Yeah, yeah, and and you talked to anybody that knew him like he wasn't a very smart guy No, of course not now, but it does feel like he's a CIA thing not an Israeli thing

Right. I mean well, but I'm saying, but there was a tight group within. Of course it feels that way. It wasn't a tight group, it's mainly all of them. Okay. Yeah. Well, in the CIA, there's a small cabal of people that were like, the CIA within the CIA. By small, you mean all of them, but then there was a group that actually did the action.

Yeah. And working with the mafia. Well, they got a guy, they got a Patsy, a guy who was not that smart, who was ideologically actually did the action. Yeah. Then working with the mafia and then working with also working with Israel. They got a Patsy, a guy who was not that smart, who was ideologically bent. Lee Harvey Oswald. Easy escape goat. Yeah.

Like what he did. Yeah. They set him up there. Jack Ruby got him the gun. Jack Ruby was working for the CIA or Massad. Jack Ruby was in the mob. Okay. But low level mob.

So, but what Low level mob. But what I'm saying is that when you talk about Israel being involved, doesn't make a lot of sense though for the CIA. It does, because they want, well, they were all working together. They all wanted one common thing, to get rid of JFK.

They wanted nuclear bombs in Israel, which JFK was against. They wanted to go to war with Cuba, which JFK was against. And then he wanted to shut down the mob. And he was also against Vietnam. Like he, he, he saw how much money, the, how opportunist the CIA could be in warfare.

And he's like, nah, man, I'm not doing this shit powerful bunch. Interesting. Yeah, man. Dark, dark, dark, man. Dark. Dark. Dark. Real dark. Dark. One document described how the CIA was tracking a Cuban national named Amfuna, one who was sent to

Cuba in 1961 before establishing a network of at least 20 people who helped drop over 50 reports. Oh, what else is interesting? We found out that the mob was helping train Cuban. Got people on American soil to overtake Cuba. Yeah, that's right. I knew that. Yeah.

But it's good to see an official documents like, holy shit. Oh, I'm the weird conspiracy guy. Now we're yet now Brian. I'm right. I'm right with you. I'm right with you. I'm right with you. I'm right with you, dude. I'm, I am so, there is clearly CIA involvement. Wow. Dude. So, it's interesting. And the warrant commission had all the sort of like, yeah, all the people that were working behinders. So they're behind it.

Yeah. It's like did he, you know, looking for evidence. Trump's going to go down in history as a man who really disrupted the world in a good way. He's doing work. He's doing work. I mean. See, Elon talking about how, uh, the deep state

wants to take him out cause he's uncovering all this fraud. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. But of course powerful bunch. Yeah. It's getting scary, but he has enough money where he could, you know, figure it out.

Wow. Roughly 98% of the files have been made public. Whoa. Dude. What's the 2%? And then I want to see the Jeffrey Epstein. What's the 2% they're hiding? Well, see the Jeffrey Epstein thing. What's the 2% they're hiding? We'll never get the Epstein list. Why? I think there's current government officials

on it. Yeah. On both sides. Well, that's- On both sides. Yeah, but Epstein's a Mossad agent. There's no doubt Epstein was working for Israel. Yeah. But I'm just saying that the names on that list will compromise both sides. So I think the one thing both these sides agree on is not releasing that list. That's so interesting. It's not good for you, it ain't good for us, right? We both not release this.

They probably destroyed all the pages or something. Yeah, yeah. What a scandal. What a fucking scandal. But they told us to come out, and then someone pulled the cord at the last second. No, no, no, no, hold up, hold up, hold up. Wow.

Not happening. Remember? Tomorrow at noon it's coming out. Because this was a honeypot. And it was all over Fox. So release Ghislaine Maxwell. Release her. If she's the only one in jail, what's going on?

How come we haven't heard from her? Well. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're going to put, the cheese in jail and nobody else is interesting. Nah, it's either all or nothing. What's scary is why, what's the 2% they're not releasing. That's probably the smoking gun. There's probably more than one shooter.

I mean, I'm amazed that they were able to keep this a secret for so long. I'm amazed. They didn't, they didn't, but they are, they're also, if you go through it, they're also very aware on how skeptical America would be and they're worried about it. Like, fuck. Well now. Oh, even before.

Now I want answers. I want answers. You know, you got your answers. You just gotta read through 80,000 pages. Well, they will. I'll wait for Candace to do it though, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's the way the world works.

Let me ask you guys, why do you think they're releasing it now? Like, what benefit is to? Well, they will. I'll wait for Candace to do it though, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's the way the world works. Damn. Let me ask you guys, why do you think they're releasing it now? What benefit is to- I think Trump is just a disruptor. I think Trump is a guy who is like, you know, I want to know too. I think he's not from their system and was like, hold up, hold up. Let me show you how crooked the government's been in the past and tried to put me away

for life. Yeah. Other false pretenses. They tried to kill him. Yeah. And they tried to kill him. So he's like, this is, this isn't new. Yeah. Like this has been done before. This is what animal I'm dealing with. The government's done this before. The Democrats try to do it to me. Check it out. You guys want to raw, raw rally, you know, fucking Biden, all this shit shit. Also what's interesting is JFK Was saying how Biden even back in the day was a piece of shit that's in those documents Well, well, by the way, I don't think Biden was actually in power. That's JFK didn't say I'm sorry Not JFK the the son who died in the plane crash. That's in

John F. Kennedy, Jr. Yeah. Yeah. So so one of the things To keep in mind is that Trump, when he was in office 2016 and 2020, the one thing he figured out very quickly was that people in government on the Republican and Democratic side did everything they could to sabotage him and called him a moron and a dummy behind his back and did a lot. And so he also didn't know how government worked. He went in there and they assigned him people that he realized were not behind him.

So the second time he went in, he got Susie Wiles, a Washington insider respected on both sides there, a complete badass Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, a badass, and respected deeply in Washington by everybody. And Suzy said, I'm going to take care of you. I know what to do. And so then he, then he said, I'm going to get loyalists in there.

I don't trust any of these motherfuckers. I'm only going to get people like, you know, cash Patel on these guys. So that'll come with its own liability. He's a little underwater in the economy and inflation, but at the same time, you know, when you want to disrupt shit, you're taking money out of the mouths of some very powerful people. And you're taking power away from some very powerful. Yes, which they don't like and, you know, And the only way you're going to ever disrupt a Leviathan,

like the United States government that only keeps growing is with a guy who's on the outside, who comes in and goes, you know what, just for you guys, Biden's own accounting office in 2023 did an accounting that's Biden, a very preliminary audit of the 70 government agencies that had programs. There was $236 billion of irregular payments and outright fraud. It's the way they've always done it. $230 billion. This shouldn't be surprising.

This is how they've always done it. So you have an outsider going, hold up, this is insane. I just get, whether you're on the left or right, how do you not support this? People are starting to say- Maybe you can hate Trump, whatever, I can understand it, I can hate him. But just from shared fact as an American, like, hold on, our tax dollars are going to what? And they want to cut down on the budget with all this fraud, all this bullshit, all this, all this

crap. The truth is really inconvenient sometimes. The truth and the truth. Bro, but the, the, the, you know, gas prices are down, but in certain areas, if you don't pay attention, like I filled up over here in Calabasas, where, you know, most people don't give a fuck whether a dollar, I'm filling up my Hummer, right? In diesel, dude, it was seven, it was seven 78 per gallon.

Wow. Oh, I get to 175 dollars. I went, what? Cause I didn't notice. Cause diesel is usually $5 here. Yeah. In my neck, the woods, it's $5 because you're in Calabasas. Yeah. But lower than what it was when Biden was president.

And then 85 is $3. But depending on the area you're in, I just figured it was the same everywhere. I get to $175. I'm like, what the fuck? I look, it's only 22 gallons. You know, trucks have to run on that. That's why a lot of trucking companies go out of business. When the price of diesel goes up, my friend's company went out of business. Yeah, oh, this ain't good. You know, trucks have to run on that. That's why a lot of trucking companies go out of business. When the price of diesel goes up,

my friend's company went out of business. Yeah, it's wild. Wow. Let's take a break, B, because when it comes to college, basketball, and March madness, March mania, one thing is for sure, nothing's for sure. Upsets, buzzer beaters, Cinderella advancing,

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But it's going down the most part, but depending where you fill up at, but. Crazy dog. It's going down the most part, but depending where you fill up at, but crazy dog. It's crazy. Oh, this is very interested. Yeah. But you got a real disruptor and in both Trump and Elon and people are going to hate it. But I believe that if the goal is to shrink

government, create more accountability, get better infrastructure in terms of technology there. Be more efficient. I think that's a good thing. How can I support that? That's a good thing. government, create more accountability, get better infrastructure in terms of technology there. Pete Slauson Be more efficient. Pete Slauson I think that's a good thing. Pete Slauson How can I support that? Pete Slauson That's a good thing. Pete Slauson Also, the hate on Elon, whatever, I get it. But –

Pete Slauson They've always hated on him. Every time he talks about something. Pete Slauson Of course, he's too rich to hate. But then, and then also weird. And then, you know, the 14 kids, but all that being said. So, those people stuck in space, you know, Biden could have rescued them and decided not to. I don't know about that. Those things I don't really pay attention to, because those are a little more complicated. I think that was a little bit complicated. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think I look into it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

It's not Biden go. Nope. But his cabinet, they could have done action, got him out there. They decided to wait. A good way to criticize Biden is to look at his 39 years in office. I don't know if you can. Well, if you look at his 39 years in office, he's typically been on the wrong side of the foreign policy debate. He's been on the wrong side of a lot of things. That's probably a good way to look at it. You can make that argument. It can't really criticize him after these last four years, because I don't

think he was there. I don't think he was just a mask. You can certainly criticize the mainstream media and all the people around him, including Kamala Harris, who knew the truth and decided to hide it from the American people. How about Charlie Kirk? If you want to talk about fake news and you want to talk about lying to the American people and you want to talk about not being honest, let's start

with the fact that everyone in Biden's immediate circle, including the mainstream media knew exactly what they were dealing with, which was a man who was cognitively impaired. Go up though, Tim. What's the headline there? Stranded assets confirmed, Biden shot down Musk's offer to bring the pair home. So this was also confirmed. And that's a real liability.

That's a big, that we don't know what exactly. To get them down? Yeah. We don't know how serious it was. We don't know how possible it was. I think. Now, now Elon said this on Rogan was I did the same offer to Biden's cabinet as I did Trump's. He goes, I can get them down.

And Biden wanted to wait. Did we talk, did we talk about the, no, you got to acknowledge that B. What's that? I know you want to defend all the shit. Because you can't, because, because when a private citizen with their company says I can get them down, that's an offer that we don't know if that's for publicity. It, I think NASA probably said it's a lot more complicated than that.

It's not a good gamble. Brian, he did it. He didn't do some part with NASA. You don't even got him down yesterday, bud. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Oh, he brought him down? Yes. Okay. Same exact offer.

Okay. You don't know what you're talking about. Well, I mean, I don't know the details. I don't like headlines because those are things I leave. Maybe you're right. No, I'm telling you I'm right. I had Chin bring this up. I'm telling you you're off on this.

Okay. Elon's literally on Rogan was, I'm too off, I can get them down. But he was like, I couldn't even, he's not there. You're dealing with these people. And they wanted to wait on it for some political reason. And Rogan goes, that's insane.

He goes, that's what I said. Let's just get them down. And then you can announce them if you want. How about being stuck in that Capsule how long were they out there for? Oh My god way too long over a year, right? Oh my god. Oh my god now now now by the way How about this? Did you how about the the? They're in the top of the Arctic Circle where the winds are a hundred miles an, and it's a minimum of 25 degrees below zero. Do you know about this?

Yeah, you're in space, don't you? No, no, no. This is in the Arctic Circle. Oh. And there's a guy who's going crazy, and they can't, yeah, nine months. Fuck you. No thanks.

No thanks. Do you know how long that is? Yeah, I do. It's nine months. In a capsule? And he got him down? I can't even hate on Elon, but you gotta give it up here.

You don't have to do this. You know how expensive that is? You know how much resources that took to get those people down? Wow. So Biden didn't want to give Elon Musk any. Ah, I see. But Elon's whole thing is like,

who gives a fuck with our relationship? There's American people stuck up there. Let's get them down. He's like, Nope. Wow. Okay. And then Trump went, Trump went, I don't give a fuck. Get them down. Yeah. So, get them down. So, um, the, the, it's all political. Go bring up, bring up. This is awful. Now think about this. They've been there, this team of scientists have been stuck in the Arctic Circle and you can't go outside even for fresh air because well it's too cold. So they've all been in this cabin. Do you have to wait until how long?

When's it chill out? Ten more months and there's a guy who's going crazy and threatening to kill them with an axe. Oh wow, that's not good. teen assigned trapped in isolated Arctic base for 10 months One of them just attacked and threatened others. He's very sick of this shit. Nobody can get to them. You can't go outside. They're stuck And when I say attack fellow colleagues while they were stationed in isolated base in Antarctica They have a deeply disturbing manner because he's going crazy. Cause he can't get out. He's going crazy.

Remember physical and sexual assault, as well as threatening to kill somebody. And over, uh, overwintering team consists of 10 members almost entirely cut off from the outside world at, at South Africa's Antarctica base, harsh winter. Yeah. I didn't know Arctic base in South Africa. Yeah, I didn't know. Arctic base in South Africa? Well, no, they're South African. Wow. It's South Africa's Arctic base.

Oh, I see, I see, I see. Come on, Doug. Last month, a team member sparked concern over sending an email about a person's egregious and deeply disturbing behavior, accusing them of- Oh, I'll tell you who it is. Roll down, I'll tell you who it is.

The guy with the weird hat in the back. This guy there? Yep. That's him. Dude. That's him. That's hilarious. That's him.

That's what they're all there and they're all, they're all there. They're all stuck. I mean- Keep going down. Um. You gotta just take that guy and I guess hold him down. Yeah, there's 10 of you, beat his ass, keep going down. If he has an ax, it could be crazy.

He might've just punched someone in the face, you know? Threaten to kill. Yeah, but it could be one of those things where if I, he's like, I'll fucking kill you. You don't actually mean kill you, you mean like whoop your ass. Could be that. Or he's batshit crazy and he's stuck in Antarctica. There's also that.

Yeah, or these people are just not used to that kind of, also they're going crazy. I mean, I'm sorry, the journey from Cape Town is approximately 2,485 miles and takes around 10, 15 days. Okay. Oh look, oh look, temperatures in the air are ranging this week from around five degrees Fahrenheit to around seven.

But when they got there, was it a chill weather? I don't think so. No. So get out. Well, they can't, nobody can get to them and they can't get out because of the ice and the wind. No one thought about this? Yeah, so you're stuck there and you have to be inside.

Get Elon on it. Wow. I mean, why? And you can't take a chopper up there. That's how they get an emergency medical evacuation to the neighboring German base. Emergency medical evacuation. So they can do it. But the weather is probably just too crazy right now. So wow. And by the way, the threatened to kill thing, right? Bren, when you say like, some people just say that.

Imagine this work environment and at one point I go, I'll fucking kill you. That doesn't work. You can't say that shit. You're crazy. But he's also going crazy too. That means he's going crazy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's not something people would just normally say like, oh, I'm just saying I'm gonna kill you because I'm pissed off. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know man. Sasa sent me a voice message yesterday and it was just him farting. I go, I go, what the fuck? And then I just got this. Sorry. Um, yeah, well, yeah, we get them out. Yeah. I just don't do that though. What are you researching?

Don't do that. I'm, I just don't know how some sciences can do that shit. I'd be like, you'd see a, the research climate and it's a very, very lonely place. There's very little interaction with humans or animals. So if you're in a camp or a research center, you're with those people six months, if not a year, Yeah, no, thanks Everything becomes heightened. It's all white. There's no color. No noise and nothing you would see as normal So everybody's behavior including your own gets magnified and the little things become the big things. Oh

Look at this Yeah, this guy went crazy with an ax six years ago. Kind of tore up his whole place. Yeah, don't go up there though, you know? I'm not interested. Sounds like they'd be all right, they just gotta lay low. It's not like you're in space. You know what they say about Alpine,

when guys who climb mountains, like they try to get to the top of Everest, you know what they call that? The art of suffering. Fuck off. Nah, not for me. Yeah. Yeah, but don't do that. No. What else you got to?

Um, let's start with this real quick. Have you guys heard about this, uh, chicken bone shooting thing? No. So someone got in a fight over a chicken bone and here's the thing. And that person got shot the person that I'm gonna let this play because it's way better I want to know your thoughts on this after we hear this Army veteran, Army veteran. He just got off work at a nearby business when he and his coworker bought Safeway's Monday night cheap chicken deal.

We're eating in a car parked outside the grocery chain. I was throwing my chicken onto the ground outside my window so I didn't get any mess in my coworkers car. That alone what do you think? Littering. You don't deserve a shot. No, it's not littering. That's not littering.

That's not littering. It is. I think it is. How's it littering? It's actually littering. Damn it, Brandon. What's the definition of littering? Throwing a chicken bone out.

Even though it's biodegradable, you can't really show it out. It's biodegradable. But that's still littering. No, it's littering, yeah. It's littering. Okay, so anyway. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You got to take a breath.

No, hold on, hold on. If you throw an apple core out the window, you guys can see that. I any food out the window. It's actually still littering actually. Yeah. Technically. I wouldn't throw any food out the window. Cause if you throw an apple core and you throw your chicken bones out. It says yes. It's still on the ground. Littering is generally defined as-

You'll get a fine. Oh no, I know the gay rule. I'm saying in here, if it's biodegradable, are you thinking you're making the planet worse by throwing your bones on the ground here and there? Let's throw chicken bones. Well no, we're not outside, Chin. In a parking lot, you can throw chicken bones.

Hold on, Chin, when you're camping, do you, the chicken bones, all the fat and stuff. Different, different. Even though it's different, I clean up everything. The stuff I don't clean up. And you're expected to. No, no, so if I, if I fillet a fish, got a fish, I'll throw it back in the lake.

Yeah. The, the, the. No, no, no, listen, in a parking lot, you can't throw your chicken. Yay. That's just fucking. Oh, I don't get. That's not cool. It's just not cool. It's a law. And there's no, I get the law in a parking lot, you can't throw your chicken. Yay, that's just fucking. Oh, I don't get. That's not cool.

It's a law. And there's no, I get the law. There's not a gay law. You don't want to be walking around with chicken bones. I agree. And apple cores. But one guy? Well, let's keep listening.

This is so funny. It's fine. Another driver parked next to them and accused Grant of throwing chicken bones at the vehicle. He opens up the car and steps onto some chicken and she's like, what the f**k is that? Why is there chicken on the ground? Um, and she looks over at me and is like, are you serious?

Maybe you're throwing chicken onto the ground. And I'm like, who cares? Leave me alone. So this is where the shooting happens. The argument escalated when the other driver took scissors and tried slapping Grant's tire. Oh wow. I jumped out of the car and I tackled her to the ground and I put her into the

citizens of citizens arrest. The chaos captured on his coworker's cell phone. Oh, so you can see her gun right there. Grant says he didn't even realize the gun he seen pointed at his head in the other driver's hand. She was gonna shoot him in the head? I just wanted to stop her,

restrain her so the cops come. He didn't see that gun. Judy is on the phone with 911. Like, none of them see the gun Grant is shot in the leg. Oh Another woman is seen coming but apparently not to help great Oh Hey coworker quit shooting and help I mean mean, quit, yeah, videotape. I just want you to know. I have a mother and one that lives in our house, so I have to get back to work as fast as possible.

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Three hundred thousand three hundred thousand. I hope a lot. I bet you he's at like seventy K max. So the the goal was twelve thousand, I believe. Thirty dollars raised. So the the goal was 12,000 I believe $30 raised I There's only been three donations. I'm giving I'm giving money. No, come on. I mean Okay, first of all the guys it not obviously doesn't be deserved to be shooting No, no shit, but just don't throw chicken bones out and that girl's obviously crazy. No, no, no

He's he's got no if he doesn't have money, I can't believe how caught up you guys are on him throwing chicken bones. Dude, I got shot. I'm not even remotely worried about it. He got shot. No, but if I saw someone throwing chicken bones out of the car, I would probably be like, Hey bro, come on, dude. Yeah, but it doesn't matter.

Why? I wouldn't say anything. I would turn my head so slow and go, don't be a pussy and then roll my window up. That dumb piece of shit tried to slash his tires too. It's like, I think wild. That woman's absolutely crazy. She shot a dude in the leg over a freaking chicken. Obviously she's out of her mind.

That picture ain't helping him though. It's not helping. That picture makes you not want to donate. Put some glasses on. Act like you're passed out. He's looked like he has some chicken. He looks sad, so he did that on purpose. But whatever.

It's not the best pic. Poor guy's trying to get a discount meal. It's just funny when he says that through chicken. That bitch is crazy. She doesn't look very like stable. We know she's not stable if she's slashing her tires through chicken. That bitch is crazy. She doesn't look very like stable. Well, you know she's not stable if she's slashing her tires over chicken. She's definitely like a...

And should get like put in jail. Dude, I'm not going to say the guy's name, but when I was training for the NFL, when I was getting ready for the combine, I was driving this very famous football player and he would just eat fast food all the time and would just take the rap we'd be driving take the rappers just throw it out the window I'd be like hey man it was just litter non-stop like what are you doing like paper like glittering like that I'm like what the fuck are you doing didn't give a flying fuck I've never seen anything like seen that just cans whatever just out the window didn't even think about it just out the window. Don't even think about it. Just out the window.

I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of that. And New York is the craziest that way. After certain parades, like all due respect, the Puerto Rican Day Parade in New York City, I love Puerto Ricans. Love Puerto Ricans.

Is there a lot of trash? But after that parade, the trash is so crazy. It's so crazy. Well, I'm sure it is, not just during Puerto Rican parades, even the New York time. 100%. Like during the fucking New Year's celebrations, all the confetti.

If you're from New York, if you're from New York, you'll know what I'm talking about, because Puerto Ricans right now are laughing, because it's like crazy. What else you got, Jen? Actually, scratch that, take that out. out. What are you so worried about Sam? When you miss such a so soft? Because you said Puerto Rican parades. There's a lot of trash. Yeah, and that makes me think I just got reminded of us It's a lot. What are you doing?

The fuck is going on No, so tell me how you would react to this. Because you're used to fish, right, a lot? So there's a place called Miles Grove Park. It's like a little park in Santa Ana, California. I saw some guy catch, you know what bluegill are? They're little sunfish. Yeah. He would catch these fish, and then he didn't want

to take them off the hook with his hands, so he would slam, boom, boom. He would kill them? Kill them. Okay. To get them off the hook. He did it multiple times and guess what I had I was like What the fuck you doing? We got an actual physical fight over that. Would you say something about that?

Well, hold on chip, but it's is he eating the fish. No, he's just throwing them away. Oh, no that killing him That would drive me nuts. I Don't know if I'd say anything Dude, I literally ran over that how many was he killing like Jeffrey Dahmer style? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw at least three That's fucked up. Yeah, I don't know if I'd say it depends out if he was right next to my bike Dude, you're just gonna kill the fish and this thrown back in like that's not what we do He was like shut your fucking mouth like fair point. We literally got an actual fight over bluegill. Yeah, but anyway, just wondering what you would have done Yeah, but anyway, just wondering what you would have done

Chins like Captain Sabre. Oh, man. I just you know for me like I don't know if I'm gonna get in a fight No now would not do shit. I know if I'm really gonna go I'm gonna go because I'm afraid of a knife or a gun Now yeah, I'm gonna fucking go like I feel you're younger. You know, you don't know it's yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's fucked up catching the fish killing them then just toss them because he didn't want to touch the fish like what a yeah what a bitch yeah yeah and why is this like this is like people that um like grab cops that start wrestling with a cop put their hands on a cop you know like don't that is the craziest shit you could ever do because that cop has no idea first of all there's a gun in the situation the craziest shit you could ever do, because that cop has no idea. First of all, there's a gun in the situation.

The cop's already assuming you're gonna go for his gun. There's a gun in the situation. If he gets knocked out, he can die. I don't know if that's like a whole problem, Brian. I don't know if a lot of people are wrestling cops. You see people do it, resisting arrests, and they start fighting with the cop. It's like, dude, you are gonna get shot,

and if you don't, you're lucky. Well, if they don't, they cry racism, and it's like, okay, you had no responsibility. No responsibility. You thought fighting a cop was going to work out for you? Why did you have to turn into a black guy? I didn't say that. I said it was just if you, there are a lot of people

that grab the cop. Sure. I didn't say anything about it. I'm just going by numbers. Hey. What? There are a lot more white, actually, people that have wrestling matches with cops, actually,

believe it or not, than black people. Do you know that statistically? Really? Yes. Yes a lot more a lot more white arrests and population numbers also So yes and more unarmed white people are shot correct. That's correct. Yeah, so I don't know about why'd you have to turn it? Why'd you have to go there? Black cop. Yeah, the black guy. Yeah there? But it's a black cop. Yeah. With a black guy. Yeah, problem. Maybe it's a black cop or the white guy.

Could be. You know what I'm saying though? Yeah. People go crazy and they put their hands on cops. And it happens actually so much more, so much more than people realize. And I think when you do that, you have to understand.

My father was a cop, you know, for 30 years. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Look at my face. What else you got? Yeah. You know 30 years sure yeah Yeah What else you got yeah But yeah, I'm with dude now that I'm like obsessed with these dashcam and body cam videos cop videos oh My god the amount of people that rush cops and kill them is so insane It's like I'd rather not as soon as they run pop up. I would just shoot

Cops are thinking worst-case scenario. They want to go home to their family. Yeah. But a lot of cops are like, they don't try to, they do this stun gun thing, which it works, but it's like 60% or something like that. Unless if they're on a TCP or math, the sun goes big. They don't work. Do you know in court when there is a shooting, the courts take into account how long the cop's been on the job, because rookies tend to be, you know,

they make more mistakes. Quicker draw, yeah, because of the pressure. Veterans have been there for a long time, and they'll be like, you know, you'd rather have a veteran who's really had some gunfights under his belt. But on the other side of that, I remember seeing this one recently,

there's a cop that literally, the guy's near a church, and he's like, put your hands up! And then he does's like put your hands up and then he does this put your hands up start shooting him and apparently that cop has killed five other or shot five other people killed four people before some of those cops are just like you know maybe some it depends on where he works depends what that is like the video see it it depends where he works did the guy have a, like if you can find the video for me to see it. It depends where he works. Did the guy have a gun on him? Yeah. So there was the call came in that I think from his sister said my brother has a gun or he bought a gun yesterday. Okay. And it could have been suicide by cop, which hold on. Here's another thing too. That's

your dad. It should have had, he goes, he wanted to kill cops or some shit like that. Okay. Well, and so the cops know damn it. And the guy lowers his arm to reach for what they don't know. Yeah, I'm shooting that guy. Whether it's a cell phone or a gun. And I'm the cop and I have three kids. I'm shooting that guy. I'm shooting your ass. Me too. Yeah.

What should he do, Chin? Wait. Do the guy get the hold of the guy? Chin's obviously anti-blue and I don't know what to say about this. No, I'm kidding. Man killed by police outside a church. No.

Yeah. There are a lot of people. This is a bad example, but. There are a lot of people that are looking to die. It seems like they call the cops in, this guy wants to kill cops and he has a gun on him. He shot him, you believe that? You know, it's a terrifying job.

As you reach for his gun, you gotta get shot. Yeah, when you're a cop, it's a terrifying job. Think about that. You're running toward the violence. Oh no, I'm with the cops. A hundred percent. Well that's how I get you in. No, no, not at all. And I'm 20 and in 2025, this whole notion of defund the police and cops through the enemy,

you know, fucking stupid you have to be, you know, hard their job is. Yeah. And when you're, when your house gets broken into, who's the first fucking person you call? You want to fund them? You don't want to support them. And when shit hits a and when shit hits a fan then you're crying. You're crying They didn't answer the call fast enough. We know how dumb that was. What's this now? No, no, no I'm trying to find the video. Damn it. You know, I'm gonna have to go through my library The cops that run for you shoot people We do say that sounded like agent

Just keep talking well, I'm gonna find this damn thing. All right, what else you got? Well chin tries to defend his Yeah, it came out John Jones once six months to prepare for Aspen. Oh, I think that's fair Yeah, what do you feel about that? What do you feel about that? Yeah. What do you feel about that? What do you feel about that? It makes sense. You get ready for him, prepare for him. Who would you put your money on?

And that six months would put, let's see, January, February, March, April, May, June. That puts us right at June, July, summer. Where do you put your money? I would not bet against John, but I do think he should be an underdog in that fight. Damn. That's when I was young in his prime.

So. John didn't look great, I don't think against Steve Bay didn't look great against Cyril Gahn. Yeah. We don't know. There's so many question marks on John, you know? Yeah. Yeah. My money would probably be on Aspinal,

but John's the greatest to ever do it. So you don't want to count them out. I would say John should be like a plus 120 because there's question marks. You don't want to count them out. I would say John should be like a plus one 20. Cause there's question marks. Wow. Yeah. First time ever. He'll be an underdog.

I think. Damn. Aspen also a big boy. Very, very skilled. And he has, he put, he has some holes, his defense, a little, well, he's also got holes in with John grabs that black belt and you did is all good But if John grabs him puts him on his back That's a possibility too. Oh, yeah, that's right his best bet because he's not gonna knock him out

No Let's move on to you don't have to defend yourself. No, it's not defending. I want you to oh, this is there I think Nope, that's not it. Okay, that guy has a hostage. Yeah, that's a hostage situation. Let's just move on. They deal with some shit, huh? Just take the L, dog. No, it's not about the L.

It's like, I want you guys to see it because it's very intriguing. It's super intriguing. I can't find the damn library. The cop shot him, yep, bad guy, yep. All right, damn it, okay, let's go ahead. Yeah, nice try. Oh, Metallica.

Yeah. So, I thought this one was kind of cool, guys. So, Metallica is doing like a big Mexico City show and they partnered with Apple to use their Vision Pro glasses that, you know, everybody bought in the beginning to have like a live VR experience there. So, totally just a different avenue now for shows. Like, we've seen people stream things, but now you're going to like feel like you're there. But you have to have the headset?

Yes. I don't have it. So. Wait, is it the better thing? The Apple Pro Vision goggle. Is that guy on the right, the lead singer, seven feet tall, cause he looks. No, those guys are smaller.

He looks huge. James Hetfield. James is pretty tall, but. Dude, I was so excited for him to go on Rogan, the Mataukas are my favorite bands of all time, I was so excited for him to go on Rogan. The Mataukas is my favorite band of all time. I was so excited for him to go on Rogan. He talked about bees for two hours. Oh no. I wanted to blow my fucking brains out.

Well, and he lives in Colorado. I'm like, dude, this is a home run. Yeah. Talked about bees to a new road and you don't give a fuck. He was entertaining the beat talk. Like, dude, those guys are tiny. Aren't they? I don't know.

There's so like, that's like a Mick Jagger. So tiny. He's like tiny. He's the size of Lady Gaga. I was like, dude. Those guys are tiny, aren't they? I don't know, they're so talented. That's like Mick Jagger's so tiny. He's like tiny, he's the size of Lady Gaga. I was like, what? He's in shape though. He's a skinny little thing. Those boys rock though. I love me some Metallica.

Yeah, it doesn't say what it's priced at yet though. I thought that was kind of interesting. I'm wondering what it would cost. Well, those virtual reality goggles from Apple are expensive. 3,500. Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah.

My son has the one where you play the games on it. What's that? I don't know. You don't know. He has like the, you have the controllers in your hand and you put the thing on. Whole box and sweat his little ass off. It's not from Apple. That's, I don't know what it's from.

The oct, that's a ocular. Yes. Ocular something. Yeah. That's what he he has not the 3000 one. He doesn't have that. Here's the 500 the meta quest. That's what he has So that doesn't work to watch concerts Not that I'd put that on and what they teamed up with them three-hour concert while everyone else is like, what are you doing? Right No one else can enjoy it. Just sitting there, go touch grass motherfucker. What else you got? Uh, this video is wild.

So it's of a man in Peru who basically got really drunk and then passed out by the train tracks and still survived. After the train came. How close is he? Close. Oh, his head's like on the track. It looks like it's chopped. Did it, oh, why did it blur it out?

Did it actually cut his thumb off? No. Why would it blur that out if he didn't get ran over? Well. What the? Yeah, I don't, I mean, it looks like the train literally goes over his head, but. He's fine. Yeah, he's bleeding.

It might have ran over his hand. I don't know. Yeah, he's alive. Functioning. Yeah. Yeah, not fun. So I don't drink. Yeah. Next one. I have so Bryce Mitchell, you know, he's fighting in UFC 314, but he's saying like, he's having a hard time sleeping and he thinks Silva's

sending demons to like mess with his brain. I don't know anything about this. He's a wild boy. Is he? Unless you just run with the flat earth stuff. Now it's getting kind of weird. Bryce Mitchell says he hasn't been able to sleep since UFC 314 press conference because demons, hold up, his eyes do look bloodshot there. Hasn't been able to sleep? He's

fucked for the fight. I was picking him to win. God damn it. I think there's a lot of pressure on him. I think he's been attacked. Conferences because demons and beautiful women are attacked crying me a river Attacking him in his sleep. He also believes his opponent Silva is possessed by a legion of demons. Okay. Well, this isn't good. You want to hear what he's sure Good morning, I think all my Christian warriors to pray for me that I will have peaceful sleep. Every single night since the day before the press conference, I've had demonic dreams. Legions of demons are attacking me every single time I sleep and not one time have I seen any peaceful sleep since that day. These demons surround me and they try to fight me and provoke me to anger and then the dream

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And he started barking like a dog and chanting F-U-F-U-F-U- I like it if it's... You think this is... You don't... No. You think this is real? Yes.

I was hoping it was WWE stuff. No, no, that'd be a bad promo. Um, he's not well. No, that's what's scary. This, this is CT. He's a good guy. Uh, I don't know, bud. I don't know.

We chalk up CT too much stuff and maybe we don't do it enough. Yeah, there might be that. Yeah. Um, not everybody's head can take that kind of sleeping. Uh, could you let us know before I bet on the fight because if you haven't been sleeping for six weeks before a fight I will bet on the other guy. Yeah Sleep is the most crucial. Yeah the night before the fight you can get away with not sleeping That's happened to me. But the night the Thursday the most important sleep is Thursday

Now if you're not sleeping that whole week, let your boy know. Cause I'll put some money on Silva. Now, cause I think he can win this fight. You think he will? Yeah. Uh, if he starts sleeping, he can win the fight. You need some sleep. I need to know before I lay down a bag.

Um, yeah, I don't know what's going on. It's not good. It's more sad than anything. Cause he's actually a good kid. I'll see, you know, he has some strange views. Yeah, but he's a good person. Well, he's, you're some strange views. Yeah, he's a good person Well, he's been he's been indoctrinated in the wrong things

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911 because her brother has been sending her text messages that he just bought a gun and that they need to watch out for to see what happens next and this guy has been in an officer safety bulletin and so officers recognized him because he has made threats to officers He said he the only good cop is a dead cop. Okay. Already, yeah, I hear you. Okay, just so you guys know, now pause this for a sec. Now, I want you guys to think about this.

You're a cop. You're driving around the street looking for a guy who is dangerous, he has a gun, and has expressed several times his intent to kill cops. So you know as you're driving your car, that you're gonna be in for something, very possibly a life and death situation. And you're driving your car. This is your death.

Just so you guys know. One hundred percent, I agree with you. Just so you guys know. The officers have been called in this area, they've been looking out around this church for this guy. The officer here who's badgaming, we are watching, is looking around and is going to see him kind of over his right shoulder as he comes around through here. So you can see him looking over to his left. He's actually here in a little while.

We're going to see this guy ducking between buildings on the right and a confrontation is going to ensue. That's what he's been told. That's what he has to see. Let's listen in on the camera. Where's the guy at? Right there in front of the church. Hands up. What's he getting though? That was a good shot by the way. That's a long way away. Yeah, that's a long way away.

Yeah, that is not close. Very good shot. You can't be reaching down like that. No. The guy's still alive? What do you think, Bren? I think this is what you do as a cop in a life of death situation. Yeah, so far I don't have a problem.

That guy has a gun. You can't see his head. Hold on, hold on. I sped this up simply for the sake of time. The officer's shots proved fatal to this man. Officers did not find a gun unseen or on the person of this man. This is the officer's fifth officer-involved shooting, the fourth fatally. It is still under investigation

we're going to talk about this one a lot and that is where the lessons from today's video ends what's the problem i mean so we see it differently then oh man if this guy has uh marketing going around the only cop is a dead cop no no when all that's look here's the problem for me when he has his hands up he like like put your hands up, but they pose hand down Right. This watch this trip, but they pulls hand down, right? You know, you know this guy's maid said I'm gonna the only good cops a dead cop and I'm gonna kill cops and Sister calls says he has a gun. So you're driving a cop. You're driving. Yes now watch right? I you see a guy here. You don't get me you've never been in this situation. So you don't get me.

Have you been shot at? No, you don't. You have no idea. I've been shot at. What are you talking about? You still have no idea what it's like to be a cop. You have no idea. No, but you're saying I don't know the situation.

I know what a situation is being shot at. You don't until you're in that situation. You have no idea. I promise you. I've been shot at, Brian. Have you? But go through your thing, Chet. Go through your thing, Chet.

So now watch this. Hand here. Show me your hands. Whose responsibility is that, Chet? Right now. You want to rewind that again, dude? Right now you're getting shot. You lowered his hand, Chet, show me your hands. Whose responsibility is that, Jen? Right now, right now you're getting shot. You're getting shot. He lowered his hand, Chen. You're getting shot.

Hold on, watch the sequence, watch the sequence. But you, it's so crazy. Let me ask you this, Jen, what should he do there? Now, here's- Well, not shoot right away. Hold on, hold on, here's where Chen is. By the way, he's shot from the get go, from the get go he shot. Should he wait till he gets shot at? Here's where Chen has from the get go. From the get go he shot.

Should he wait till he gets shot at? Here's where Chin has a point. Hold on. The point is this, there may have been, Chin, to take your point in hand, there may have been an ability to get cover and talk to him at a distance. What are you doing?

What's going on? What it looked like here is he shot him from a distance. What are you doing? What's going on? What it looked like here is he shot him from a distance. He was squeezed off like five rounds before that. So let's just watch this again. I don't know if this is the beginning. But it's hard to see too, right? You can't really see. So where should he cover though?

But that alone. Get on the ground. He didn't go on the ground, he just shot him. So that's the first thing. So I can't see where that guy is. I know, I can't see what the guy's doing. So I do think that that was a premature shooting. So do I.

From where I'm at. How could you not though with the information you have? Wants to kill cops, has a gun. Looks like he walks and then gets behind a bus. So he said, get on the ground, run around in exactly one second later. He's fired off rounds. But we can't see what the guy is doing.

No, look, his hands are up. I don't think he's hit. But what's he doing there? Because he's already shot. Imagine, like. Show me your hands. Church, west side of the public. But what's he doing there?

Show me your hands. Put your hands up. Yeah, you got to shoot him there. Show me your hands. Put your hands up. Yeah, you gotta shoot him there. Hold on. Put your hands up. Put your hands up. Put your hands up. He put his hands up and then he shot him.

Yeah. Come on, dude. That's bad. And he had no gun on him. And then plus just knowing his priors, like he shot it, how many times, do officer involve shootings? That's trigger happy.

That's what I'm thinking here. It's trigger happy. He's in trouble. That'll be, that'll be, that'll be. I mean, yeah. My thing is that he engaged right away. He said get on the ground and he went bop bop bop and started shooting.

What area is this in? That's my issue. Modesto? Modesto, California. That's California. If that's my brother, I'm going, you didn't give him time to fucking even comply. If that's my brother, again, I'd probably be pretty upset.

But then also, you should've got him help. You should've got him help. Because, hold on, you're saying my brother's posting only good cop is a dead cop, and then the sister calls the cops because you recently got a gun, and then you're upset that the cop, and you're gonna see what I'm doing, and then you're upset the cop responds

in aggressive manner when he shows up. Well, there's no doubt that you understand why this guy shot him in a lot of ways because you're nervous, you're running toward the guy, you see the guy, you know, I don't know what he saw, I can't tell with that camera angle. But if you see a guy, if you go get on the ground, if you see a guy get on the ground,

and you see the guy do this, if you see him get on the ground. But I do think in that situation, you probably could have said, hey, how you doing? What's going on from cover? And talk to him. Just talk to him. Yeah. That's what I think.

I think there are cops that would have been able to deescalate that in a heartbeat. But my main thing was like- He wasn't breaking the law. No, my main thing was like- He wasn't breaking the law. No, my main thing was like his prior, like five involved, you know, officer involved, shooting four fatalities. It's a lot, it's a lot.

It also depends what those four priors are. That's very true, Brent, but I mean- He could just be doing a good job. There's also that. But I mean, just for me watching the video, I feel like he just, he went a little too far, too fast. So do I. Yeah. So do I, I agree with you. I feel like he just he he went a little too far too fast So do I yeah, so do I I agree with you. I Look at I think the cop wants to go home. He deals with a lot of bad people

There's a way that there's a way to do that where he didn't have to escalate kid this so a couple things The kid was not breaking a law He was also But he was just just acquired a gun and his number one goal is to kill a cop his sister has to be some responsibility by that guy putting that energy out there the way to do that is not to do this get on the ground bang bang bang yeah and plus he didn't have any weapons on him time to get on the ground he didn't get him time to i'll give you the argument on the first shots like all right you're kind of far away can't see the second one when his hands are up in there but then he

reaches his hand down i'm with the cop but then when he said put your hands up he was putting his hands up But then he put it down, but no he did he originally did that and then he put it down chin Watch it again. No, I'm chin you're off. No, I said you're off No, no, I'm not. No, I'm not he goes put your hands up. He puts his hands up Like you're saying twice Amy lowers his hand twice He reached down twice he reached down twice if I got a gun on me, I'm doing this the whole time. You gotta hear my hands, I'm not gonna do anything. This guy wasn't really there. He wasn't all there.

Shit, I can't fucking focus. It's really sad. It's fucking sad, man. It's sad. Let's watch the whole thing again. This is my issue, watch this. This is pretty quick. I can't tell what the guy is doing there though.

He's walking. He's walking and you can see the last shot hits him down. Yeah, but I can't see. Like was he bending down? Was he grabbing something? Hold on. Let's look again. It's hard to tell. It's like the Bigfoot video. Let's wait till It calms down here.

It's too blurry. Yeah, it's still blurry. This is the questionable one, because the guy is still alive there. So let me see if I can... See, one hand's up. So both hands up and watch this. And hand down, grabbing something. Hands up. And then right here, watch. Hand down, in the pocket, in the pocket.

That killed him. But then he was putting his, you know what I'm saying? Twice, twice he brought his hand down. In that situation, as a cop, you're trying to shoot. You can't see his hand, he's reaching, there's all this stuff. I want to go back home to my family, fuck these scumbags.

My larger issue is that there might have been a way to be like, hey, what are you doing? What's going on? And you take cover and you talk to him. There's a way to handle it. This guy though. Real quickly.

This guy was obviously dealing with somebody who said, in his mind he goes, this guy's got a gun, he's gonna do something bad. And I can't let him. And why do you think he does that? Because he's got a history of it. There you go. There's a long history of it.

And so maybe I'm more triggered by the fact that. Remember he was on the cops watch list. Yeah. For making threats to cops. Yeah, and by the way, so let me just say these two things. So I was, you know, kinda like, when he was walking away and then shooting him, like that's, that already tells me this cop is trigger happy. Secondly, how do I feel personally about people that make threats to cops saying they should

die? What do you think I think? Yeah. I think they should go to jail or die. Well, so here's the thing. And that's what happened. I think what you're saying is that I think this cop is trigger happy. I will give you that.

That's, yeah, that's the main. I'm not willing to to say sure gaping unless I see the four cases that he was involved in so no There's an investigation with this so we'll see what happens with this this one for sure There's been an investigation the other four. I don't know Well, this is this family's gonna win money because he's unarmed But again, he's behaving Prior to me with his prior issues. I don't know. Clearly not there. He was not all there, man.

This kid wasn't all there. The kids obviously messes with things like that. It was also two years ago. Is there no update? It's f*****g sad, man. Oh yeah. Look up there. Thank you.

Update. Trevor Siever. Oh, it's Joseph Lamont's show. That's weird. Cause I just Googled it and there was another Modesto one that just happened. Modesto might be popping off too. So he's in a war area and so he's probably trigger happy, man. He's also doing his job.

So ex Modesto cop sues DA, charging him shooting. So apparently he must have been fired. Modesto cop,es da charging him shooting So apparently he was he must have been fired Modesto cop so he got fired Yeah He got fired for that. He was 2020 remember so former Modesto police officer was charged with voluntary manslaughter in a fatal December He was cleared suing prosecutors. He never had been charged civil rights were violated Yeah, yeah shooting of Trevor Siever. That's the guy we're talking to. Described the product from the use of force.

The shooting was justified. That's where retired, uh, wrongly charged. So now he's suing them. I want to see if we can find out as priors. Keep going down, Chin. Several family members said they were concerned about him. So he believed Siever was armed and intent on killing his family. Once he got to the church,

everyone had said he believed Siever was trying to ambush him. He also was aware of Siever's dead cop wishes on social media. He texted and he said he perched a gun and called his mother to tell her that he was coming to the house and they needed to leave and to call 911. Okay, 911. So now you're your own mother. You're going to, you know, this is, he believed that Severs armed intent on killing his family. Once he got to the church, Lamontia said he believes he was trying to ambush him. So he was cleared in the three previous ones. He said he had death cop it wishes on social media. Keep going down chin. They paid severs family 7.5 million.

So, you know, now that I'm like looking at this more and more, like since we can't see right that clearly from the, if the video was more clear, but to me in the beginning, when I first saw it, I was like, Oh, he's trying to shoot this guy regardless. Complicated. Yeah. But then, and then when I saw the arms drops and then going up, it's super complicated. Yeah.

And then I said, but his prior suit, that's what made me his priors. He's on social media saying he wants to kill a cop. His mom is like, Hey, he has a gun. He told us to leave the house. It's a bad situation. You're a cop going in. Are you gonna assume he's gonna be a nice guy? And he did think he was being ambushed probably.

Yeah, dude. Again, it always goes back to this. Unless you've been in that situation, I was just thinking about it. He's gotta go look for a guy who you know is definitely dangerous and has said he wants to kill his own family. He wants to be a cop killer.

You are, yeah, you are, your adrenaline and cortisol levels are so high and that is like, all of us go, the minute we hear about somebody having a gun, we get the fuck out of there. We run away. Those guys are paid to run toward it. Not to mention, now remember too, remember too, he's going into it thinking this, thinking that he's going to try and him. And he has the information that the mom's like, this dude has gun to us get out. So he's going into it with that mindset, you know? Yeah. I'm glad you brought this up because this is

interesting. This gives you an idea of what it's like to be involved in those things and how it works. That's why I use throwing stars. And yeah why I use throwing stars. And yeah, I use throwing stars or poison darts. And also here's the number one thing. This guy getting shot, he has to take accountability. Now why was the cop in a heightened sense of for his life? Did you post that you wanted to kill cops?

Did you acquire a gun? You did? You did? Or he's saying he did. But either way, same thing. It doesn't matter. post that you wanted to kill cops did you acquire a gun you did you did or anything and did but but either way same thing doesn't believe that it does believe that your own mother is reporting so let me get this straight your own mom's reporting your own family called the cops you've said you want to shoot cops and now you want to sue the police officer because he answers a call Okay, and the cops the bad guy What fucking world are we living in right? No this whole the whole thing got started when I was like I'm with the cops and then I said like even if since I'm watching these dash cams

So even watch I watch these body cams and dash cams I said even if someone's literally a cop has his gun out and someone runs up to threaten, I say shoot, just shoot. Of course. Shoot to kill. And I said there's some instances where I saw videos where it's like, it's weird, so this is one of the videos that popped up.

But when you find out the background, you go, oh, of course the cop was like that. I do think it was. Now, if I just saw this, if you didn't tell me any of that stuff, you're like, this dude was just Roman, and the cop, and you show me that video, I'm like, you're like this dude was just Roman and the cop and you show me that video I'm like, holy fuck that cop was trigger happy. Yeah, but when you give me when you give me information He threatened cop lives. He acquired a gun his family called the cops on him

Okay, there are there are cops that would have said would have taken cover and said hey, how you doing? What are you up to bud? They would have given them a chance. There wasn't any talking. Oh, I hear you, bro. Yeah, so there's different styles. And I think that that was also something that maybe a more experienced cop or a different kind of cop would have actually done. And I'm not surprised this guy's been

in five fatal shootings, but that's me. And here's another thing that I just wanna bring up. But the other ones, there's no charges. So who knows, those four or five other, the four other ones that he was not convicted of, they must've looked into it. Now he's doing his job. So let me ask you this real quick.

So I do know people, close friends that have autistic kids, right? They say crazy shit, they do some wild shit. So I'm also thinking like, what if this kid's just like, just saying dumb shit. Very possible. And that he would never kill someone, never shoot a cop's just like, just saying dumb shit. Very possible. And that he would never kill someone. Never shoot a cop. Just doing that, yeah.

It's very possible. So it's like, I don't know any autistic kids threatening cops' lives. And acquiring guns. Autistic kids can be very influenced by it. There are plenty of people who are not there mentally. I think we're going to, in 10, 20 years, we're going to go, wow, we didn't know that this is how your brain works.

It is what it is. So I think this could have been handled better, but I understand what you're saying. Where, dude, this person said that, you know, play stupid games, good cop is a dead cop. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. What are you doing? I'm looking for my wallet. Yeah. If that's my father-in-law, I'm like, thank God you got rid of that guy. You know, that's in front of you. All right. Yeah.

Anyways, I thought it was an interesting thing to bring up, but good way to see. Good way to end this. Yeah. All right, B, where are I thought was interesting thing about but good way to see good way to end this Yeah, I'd be where you're gonna be pal I'll be at wise guys Friday Saturday Las Vegas, Nevada get your tickets wise guys And then I I'm right off to Philadelphia March 28 29 30 Looking forward to that and then Norfolk you're all over pal. I'm all over. All right guys. This is the fine kid. We're out