The Fighter & The Kid - Jeff Dye | TFATK Ep. 1025

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Comedian Jeff Dye is back and the guys talk the Chimp Crazy TV series, old school pro wrestlers including Jake The Snake Roberts and Macho Man Randy Savage, Eddie Bravo conspiracy theories, P.Diddy ge...tting arrested, Umar Nurmagomedov vs Merab Dvalishvili, Jeff still being sober after quitting alcohol and much more! DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code: FIGHTER True Classic - Go to https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER and unlock big savings when you bundle items sitewide #trueclassicpod #sponsored JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yes we did, cause we back at it again, it's the fighter and the kid This is really the fighter and the kid It just got a lot better looking in here It did get a lot better Feeling good Thanks for having me boy No wasted space, sober Dude just 100% American male in here
Starting point is 00:00:18 That's right dude, look at you Everything's gay now so I'm trying to balance this out I understand We went to the mall yesterday, everything's gay. Everything's gay. What is going on? We just said that about the coffee shop. Everything?
Starting point is 00:00:29 We were in there and we were like everybody, it's my joke, if a Prius, they're all built like what a Prius would look like if it was human. Yeah. Oh yeah, Barista's very grumpy. Very, yeah, very grumpy. That whole coffee shop, I told Brian I said I could lock the door. Oh, you'd kill everybody. And kill everybody. For sure.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Or just enslave them. It's like everybody's gonna do what I'm gonna do. Yeah, like everybody if you want to live to make some coffee. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm alive to work I don't know where the machine I'm like kill everybody. Yeah, but no everything's gay We went to the sunglass hut all the pit all the glasses in front were these like little like Bright colored things that like you'd see Kurt Cobain wear like in an old video or something Like we we walked by the Banana Republic, the male models dressed like a woman, like just everything's gay. If you feel safe and you have plenty of food,
Starting point is 00:01:13 you're gay. And you're just, you just. All these zoo animals go to gay. You have no defenses. You know how they looked, they did this study, it wasn't that scientific, but they were like, why are the men in prison? Why do they get so jacked? And they eat carbs and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Well what they think is that... Careful now, don't be calling all these prisoners gay. No no no but the constant threat to your life, just being around dudes and always... They gotta build armor. Your testosterone spikes naturally. When there's a threat in the air all the time, you're gonna, your test is gonna spike. Could get shanked at any moment. So then you start lifting and it's like being on TRT.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And then when you're free, you get a little cuss, you don't have too many worries, get confused about your pronouns. You can tell on somebody and they get on truck. Suck a dick on a Thursday, not a huge deal. What is gender? Yeah. So safe.
Starting point is 00:01:59 That's what Sammy the Bull said about the mafia. He goes, you could never be, you can never operate now. You pull a hit, 15 people have their phones on oh yeah for sure you know you can't do anything So people are crazy dude. I started watching that You definitely watch it you might have you kind of hip to it chimp crazy. I'm watching it right now chimp crazy I'm on my third episode. How's that about dude? I'll talk about Brian in his 20s episode. What the hell is that about? Oh dude. We're not talking about Brian in his 20s. Dude, what is it? It's a documentary on HBO. Oh I'm excited about this. This lady, so it's like Tiger King. Hell yeah. It's Tiger King but for monkeys. This lady's bat shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yes she is. And I'll say this, I wish anyone, dude I wish anyone loved me as much as she loves these chimps. Yeah. Does she sleep with the chimps? 1000%. It's the elephant in the room. There's a whole thing where women, there are a lot of women that will adopt a monkey or an ape. Not a lot, right? And it becomes their child.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Never careful of words, not a lot. As it becomes their child. And that whole world is crazy. Remember Travis the Chimp beat the shit out of that lady who went on Oprah? Oh no, he ripped her face off yeah poor jaw off tore hands off yeah what does I said beat the shit out of that lady beat the shit was loose of a terms the chip went crazy well the woman who owns Travis the chimp took his side yeah and was like well you know that's what happens and then the police came
Starting point is 00:03:24 and shot my monkey it's her fault that's how was like, well, you know, that's what happens. And then the police came and shot my monkey. It's her fault. That's how she turned on her friend. That's episode three, though. On that, they go into it because that chimp came from the sanctuary. Oh. And there were signs. And apparently, that lady was trying to back up the chimp so much.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah. Her best friend was like, yeah, she would hide all the bruises. The chimp was beating her ass. Every day. Crazy. Every day. Look, I mean, at the end of the day, those, they're great. And then their balls drop.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Then they get to be adolescent adults. And once their balls drop, they become what's called unmanageable. And that would mean that sometimes they might bite your nose off or worse. And so if you notice people that grow up with the chimps, they're always interacting with them behind glass or a cage Well this crazy lady where she's like it's so mean what they're doing the chimps are trying to take him from me I'm like, yeah, I love him. We have such connection my whole time. I mean my wife watching go. Okay, if he's that cool Go in the cage. Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:20 Sweet you're such good friends. Have you loved you so much go in the cage? Yeah, go hang out Yeah, go go try to feed them go ahead and you can you can you can there's a chance you can raise a chimp alone If you have anyone over including the kids that it grew up with yeah, he's gonna go um nobody to kill you How far are you on that? So that there's you're the problem. They're saying you can't. You can't do that. You can't. Don't tell me. Don't tell me. What's like anything? You might get lucky for a week. Yeah. Because once you get to adults, it becomes a hierarchy. That's what they're saying. They're saying like the whole PETA and usually PETA is fucking batshit crazy, but in this they're right. PETA is saying like, no, it's not safe. Yeah. And like, it's also not natural. Like what you're doing, they're in like their bedrooms 24 hours a day. Like it's not normal. Yeah. And like, it's also not natural. Like what you're doing, they're in like their bedrooms 24 hours a day.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Like it's not normal. You don't get to get a bobcat and go, oh, the bobcat, we love him. He's hanging out in the house. It's like, it's a bobcat. Ask the bobcat, let him go. It's so stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Also the Travis the chimp lady was given her monkey, was given Travis antibiotics. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Antidepressants. Prozac. Which that's, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:05:27 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Travis, the gym. How many units of Botox is that? We got anyone that wanna know?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Oh, it's in the episode. She's getting Botox on her lips. How many units is that? That's a lot of units. It's called a lip flip when they do that. Yeah? Yeah, they get it right above the lip to make your lip pop up.
Starting point is 00:05:54 So that's her when Travis was chill. Yeah, that's the one they tore the face, that's the owner right there. Yeah, that's the owner. It tore a door. He would drive. The cop said it tore my door off. The cop said it ripped my cop door off. Dude, the cop shot him five times and he still didn't even go down. Oh, of course, he's the owner. It tore a door. He would drive. The cop said it tore my door off. He drove. The cop said it ripped my cop door off.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Dude, the cop shot him five times and he still didn't go down. Oh, of course. He's like, dude, I'm a giant pissed off monkey, dude. Yeah. You know, the cops, they don't deal with chimpanzees. You know what, I'm back on the monkey side. He's wearing a yellow sweater.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You said he drives. I like this guy. Yeah, he loves to drive. Is he having sex with that blonde lady? Yeah. Dude, the day he took that lady's face off. Look at him right there. The day he took that lady's face off, the with that blonde lady. Yeah, dude the late the day he took that lady Look at him right there the day took that lady's face off the lady that came to savor cuz she was having issues them She's so aggressive. Yeah, she's like I can't leave the house yet. He keeps want to go on it
Starting point is 00:06:34 You love like car rides. She goes he keeps taking my keys. I can't leave so she goes come over and help me She comes over he loved Elmo. Yeah Like an Elmo and he's like cool Elmo very cool I'll take your face and draw them right and then you hear it all on the phone I'm surprised those in the documentary because I remember the tickle me Elmo those Sesame Street people they're like made them not put that part in the in the news they're like don't make it sound like tickle me Elmo set this monkey off there was was probably the anti-depressants
Starting point is 00:07:06 and the age of the monkey. It's just chimps being chimps. Chimps being chimps. Hey, Chin, look up PSI bite force of a chimp, and then look up PSI bite force of, I don't know, pit bull. Check this out. PSI bite force. I didn't even know that was a term.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, that's 1,300 PSI. OK. So that would be a person 162. That's 1300. Pitbull? Yeah. Oh yeah. Pitbull is 235. What's that? What's the alligator though? So a pitbull. No, but think about this. So that's the bite force of a bear, a chimp. Right. They can bite. They can bite harder than anything. 2000.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's the hardest. That's the hardest bite of any animal. I just want to see where they're at. But think about that. So when it bites you, everything's coming off. How many PSIs I got? And that's pounds per square inch on a tiny little... Yeah, how many do we got? Me and you. This one got all angry and bit us. What would she bite at? 250, 260.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Dude, but human bites fricking hurt. T, remember, Bostie, I was feeding him chicken nuggets. Oh yeah. And I was looking at him, I'm like, here dude, just eat. And he bit my, he didn't know, and he's like, huh, dude? You ever bit your own finger, like had a fry or something?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, bro. Why am I biting a fry that hard? Dude, it hurts so bad. Oh dude, you can, yeah, it's not. Your finger was all red. Yeah, it hurt. Oh, look, he's proud of it. Look, now he's proud of it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I yelled out so loud, I was so embarrassed. He's proud of it, he's gone, look, I took down the giant with the chicken nugget. They're laughing so hard. Him and his brother laughing so hard. It is funny. I went, what the fuck? In the middle of the restaurant, it hurts so bad.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I think I bit my finger off. Yeah, man. Humans are 162, what the fuck? In the middle of the restaurant. It hurt so bad, dude. I think I bit my finger off. Yeah, man. Humans are 162 by the way. Bossy's 200. Half of a chimp. Wait, what's the chimp one I already forgot? 1300 pounds per square inch. Well, he was using his hands mostly on that lady.
Starting point is 00:08:57 That's a polar bear. That's a polar bear. I thought it was interesting she would wanna go on Oprah. She wore a little veil. She had a hat with a veil. But what are we doing? Why is she going on there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:09 To defend the champ, that's what's wild. No. All these people are bat shit crazy. She could have been defending the champ. Well, more importantly, don't own them as pets. Yeah, you shouldn't own any. There's a great documentary called Elephant in the Living Room, which is a play on the no one wants to talk about these.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But the guy that does the documentary his his rule is you get a cat you could have a dog or a goldfish that's it no other animals because what are we doing also the other part is like let's say all these animals were friendly which they aren't but let's say they were people run out of money and what's the first thing that happens when you run out of money you can't afford to feed your pet tiger 70 pounds of steak every day so what they do is they say oh I got to get rid of this tiger it's too expensive forget the danger and the risk and the terrible lifestyle for this tiger but look I just can't afford it the zoos are full they got enough tigers and they
Starting point is 00:10:00 can't just release it into the neighborhood so what they end up doing most case scenarios just taking them taking them out somewhere in the woods and shooting it. Tiger King style. So they'll find corpses of tigers and lions all over the place because people just can't afford to keep them. But also, in that Chimp Crazy Doc, they're saying how much they love chimpanzees. If you love them, you can tell they're miserable.
Starting point is 00:10:19 There's sanctuaries that are dope that have, they can climb the trees and they're in the open basically, just enclosed. But it's all, they get sun natural sunlight this they're basically they're in this studio with the doors closed 24 7 because you like them so much you want to just be like oh, I love Jeff No, like well, let me out of the room like yeah There was a dude here. I want to stay here. He loves me. Yeah My friend I feed him three times today. What more do you want for me? Then why wouldn't you go to give him food? He tries to stab you. I don't do be cool. He's my friend. I feed him three times a day. What more do you want from me? Then why would he go to give him food? He tries to stab you. I don't do be cool. He's like that
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, he's free playing around there's a guy in the Bronx I had a tiger in his apartment and he was he was a chickens up like what's he doing? He's just like well, hey, you know my buddy Scott He was telling me about his in Baltimore or Maryland somewhere He his there's this family in the neighborhood that had a pet deer They just like had in their house and so Occasionally deer would get out and shit But it was domesticated for the for the most part and one time
Starting point is 00:11:11 The neighbor came and had like the deer in a headlock and was like guiding up to that say hey, you know Crystal got out or whatever and they're like crystal died a few months ago. that's just a wild deer. They were trying to get the thing in there. Crystal's in me. She's not herself today. She's foaming. She's foaming. It's pretty crazy though. But that's another thing, it's so stupid. I know we like animals, that's really great, but just enjoy
Starting point is 00:11:38 animals being animals. What's Disney and Pixar, it's like just cause there's a Lion King movie, does it mean they're cool, man? And even Lion King, they're free. They're in Africa. Yeah, yeah, they're chilling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's very silly. Let's take a little break, because- Hey, real quick though. Oh, fuck. Before we head to Indiana, I'll be there this Friday, Saturday. You know what I'm saying? That's it, man.
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Starting point is 00:13:30 Me a snake, Burmese python. What happened to it? Those live forever. Would you get rid of it? Yeah, it got too big. It's still alive. It got too big and I had to give it away. They do live forever.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Got too big and I had to give it away. It got to be 14 feet. 14 foot, Burmese python? Yeah, somebody in Connecticut got it. And they brought it to the kindergarten. It was like a 14 foot snake. Good night. Burmese Python.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And it got too mean. It got too fucking mean. I had him in college and he would be like, I'm going to try to bite you. I was like, I don't like this guy anymore. What's the PSI on a Burmese Python? Why did you have it? I got bit by it. So the snakes are the stupidest animal to own.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You don't do anything with them. You might take them out once a month. There's no bite force with a snake. I don't really think most people, I don't know anyone that's like, Oh dude, that guy's a snake guy. He rules. Like, I don't know anyone that. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:14:13 The guy at the fair with snakes or a parrot on his shoulder is not a guy where things worked out. Yeah. No, that wasn't his goal. Yeah. It's like, all right. I've had everything. Part of the crazy thing I've owned is what I have now that those arowanas and I have a catfish what's a what? Arowana bring up a or while I had my cause you shouldn't own those I didn't know birds
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah, one of sounds like some guy you talk about in UFC that yeah They're gonna win a fight or some arnibus fish. Yeah, that's a what so I have two of those in a tank And they're getting so big now that color. Yep, and'll pocket is to and the job that you have to have a heavy Glass on top so because the jump out jumped out twice on me. It's terrifying. That's crazy, but they're getting so big I have to create a pond in my backyard now. That'll be cool. Yeah. Yeah, I had McCall's I had to Some I have to something the worst thing I ever did was having two McCall's Because they are smart as shit. They should not be pets They came out and said it's like owning a chimp. They're so smart. They'll just they'll take your table apart with their beaks and
Starting point is 00:15:13 Right there. That's what I had. I had a red one and a blue and gold right there That's exactly what I had to that one the red one might mine was a calico was called I called her Jezebel. It was great. She bit the fucking great I know all that came into my house. It's great with a red tail. Nope. It was gray. She bit the fucking shit out of any girl that came into my house. Was it gray with a red tail? Nope, it was that. It was kinda gay, huh? No, they're this big.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Is that from your house? That picture of red one again? They're smart as shit, and they wanna be with you all the time, and they would just randomly bite my friends, badly. It's pretty funny. Randomly bite the fuck out of my friends, and my dogs, and my dogs, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:43 They would scream at my dogs and start eating their food It was nuts the craziest thing I ever owned we only owned for like a day It was called look up a wind scorpion a wind scorpion bought it from the pet store We're like we never seen anything like that and he goes yes on my rocky troop came. Oh, that's that's a fucking We call those camel spiders. Yeah, they're real quick. They run real fast. We had those fuckers in Saudi Arabia. Nick could kill a dog if they got enough venom, but those what? It's actually not true. They say that. And you guys had one?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Fucking kill a dog? You guys had one in your house? They tell you that. That's a lie. They tell you that. Well, I didn't lie. No, no, no. They tell you that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 That's what they told me. I know, I know. Camel spiders will bite the fuck out of you. Show how big it is. Right? A camel spider. Is it the same as a potato bug? No, no, no. A camel spider big to camp lighter and make it now just so you can see how big now. They're huge. That's a camel That's a camel spider. We used to have giant ones and put a camel spider big or something. There you go
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah, the wind's corp is just a slang for me. See how big that is. Yeah. Oh my god Yeah, so we had one of these things It wasn't as size troopers and we bought it from Pestor the guy had to sell it to us like kind of like he's like Don't tell anyone where you got this. We took it. No, we took it from the pet store. The guy had to sell it to us, like, kind of like, he's like, don't tell anyone where you got this. Was it expensive? No. We took it on like a little tour. I took it to my work. I was like, check out what we bought.
Starting point is 00:16:51 They're like, get that out of here. And we showed it to a few other friends. We took it to our friend's house. His parents were like, get that out of the house. And then we had to return it, because nobody would let us just keep it. Spiders are another one that is wiped by a spider. Yeah, it was gross.
Starting point is 00:17:02 We just thought it was cool. Like, you know when you want to scare people like look at this thing Yeah, I think we didn't hold it or nothing. It was just in there. You can show a guy getting bit by one I want to see if it hurts. Oh, yeah, let's see. It's scary. I force on a camel spider. It's like a gym It's all I care about what's the macabre PSI force? Peterson got bit by one of those camels spider coyote Pierce camels I wouldn't type in Coyote, just someone get bit by Kyle Peterson. Camel spider bite.
Starting point is 00:17:27 This is gonna be awesome. Yeah, troops would like bet on them fighting, put them together. That show on A&E got canceled because they were doing it so much. Oh, there it is. Oh, there you go. Yeah, it's him.
Starting point is 00:17:38 This is what I love about the internet. Two, three. Yeah, it's his thing. Ow, ow, ow. Oh, it's even piercing the skin. Nah, that's it. Three. This is his thing. Ow. Ow. Oh. Oh, it's not even perched on the skin. Nah, not bad.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It's like a massage. Oh, a massage. It hurts like little tiny needles going in my. And he's beefing that up for the camera. Yeah, it's a little bit natural. Really? You went, oh. You guys are like experts in animal bites that you like.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Oh no. Dude, chin. Oh, that's nothing. Chin, bring up him getting bit by a. A tarantula hawk? A shark. A tarantula hawk. No, what? Right there, stung by a tarantula hawk. Oh no. That's nothing. Chin, bring up him getting bit by a shark. A tarantula hawk. No. Stung by a tarantula hawk. When you get stung by a tarantula hawk, you'll see what pain looks like. Oh dude. Show me Coyote Johnson or whatever his name is getting bit by an alligator.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Oh, that's scary. Coyote Johnson sounds like a porn star. This is so nuts. Here we go. Dude, if we really cared about views, we'd have to start doing this. This kind of stuff, yeah. go. Hold on her dude. I like if we really cared about views We'd have to start doing this kind of stuff. Yeah, you just like swelling up. We got Jeff in her day a stinger bite Give bit by a cheetah This what he does You can't play this guy fine audio you can is he gonna squeeze this guy No, you just put it on skin cuz the thing wants off
Starting point is 00:18:42 I don't know But how's he not pinching it to death with those tweezers? Do you remember how chilly he was with that banana slug he likes? This would suck so bad. Banana slug. Look, watch. See the pain of this?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Then that potato bug you're talking about? Potato bug? Brings him to his fucking knees, dog. Yeah, this is like peacemaker. Dude, this goes on for like hours. Yeah. One of them, they have to have like an Epi pen. I would argue he's hamming it up for this one
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's what I think I think the other one was him being always tough in real season six You know it's no big deal to him no more He goes I don't want to look like a pussy all the comments are calling me a bitch from that No There was a show similar son I think was that Amy or the history channels two bros like they would be like you and I do It's gonna get they were doing the similar thing and you can tell They ran higher and ah, no you get tell they ran out of ideas So the last episode they get a giant python they catch it in the Amazon or whatever and they're like
Starting point is 00:19:34 I guess we'll do this and he has his yes They got canceled after this. Yes his arm like this guess we'll do and the things like backed up and his buddy He's like you know, he's like you want to go first? He's like, yeah, I'll go. Just kind of let's see how it goes. Dude, he's holding his arm there. Dude, it shreds his fucking arm. Like blood's everywhere. I love it. And then, and then I was talking with the guy cause I love the show. So I was DMing back forth. It was, yeah, man, one might have been too much. I think we're getting canceled. They got, they never, I've never seen them again. So when we were kids, at least my age, like wrestling was so funny because you just had
Starting point is 00:20:09 a bunch of bodybuilders, right? Pro wrestling was just, this will make sense in a second, was a bunch of like muscular bodybuilders. Like the warrior. Yeah. Macho man, Ultima warrior, whole coach. Jake the snake. These are just bodybuilders.
Starting point is 00:20:21 They're not actors. No. And then they're on heaps of supplements, steroids, then they party so they're hungover or they're drunk or they're on cocaine, right? And then they had to do improv on Saturday morning television. They're not improv guys.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And so then they would, for children. So it was a bodybuilder on drugs and steroids doing improv for children. That's what was very funny. One of the characters' whole shtick was that he just had a snake. It was called Jake the Snake Roberts. That was his whole game.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He brought him out on the bench. Yeah, every match he'd bring out a snake. People were like, oh, that's the man with the snake. For whatever reason. And then he'd like put it over your body after he got you out. That makes him a good fighter cause he had a snake. He was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:20:58 There was an episode, you can find the YouTube video where Macho Man, he ties Macho Man up in the ropes and he just has the, did the snake bite bite Macho Man's arm on Saturday morning television for really and we're off and we it was for money without YouTube video you're just describing because they were just like yeah just have him bite Macho Man and look at the snake on live TV that's actually a king cobra oh let's see this first it was real Cobra crazy can we get a little more respect for fucking Macho Man Randy Savage? How cool is that? You got it.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Look, they're booing the bad guy. Macho Man's on a fave, dude. Look at him. Uh-oh. Can you imagine being eight years old and watching this on TV? That's a real Cobra. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:40 That's not good. They take the venom out. Yeah, but still. Still. Also, it's all scared from the fans fans. Yeah, the Cobra's like I live in the desert. I've never seen so much white trash in my life Dude that's crazy. Here's my thing. They must have taken the fags out. And you think UFC fighters are low-paid What do you think Macho Man made that night? That's a fucking king What do you think watch a man made on Saturday?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Real Cobra though. Yeah, I mean you keep saying that I know but it's got no fangs I guess it must have taken the fangs out. They got fangs. Well, I say they don't pick it out amount That's a really milk it. Well That's what you can't get it loose. Oh Why cuz it's not a shake it. Come on. Why? Because not a snake expert. Get it off.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Snake's not a snake expert. I also heard this great thing too. I don't feel bad saying this cause I think it's somewhat public knowledge, but I guess this is way before Peta was ever a big known thing. So like these guys, you know, like I said, they're party animals and drug addicts
Starting point is 00:22:42 and they're on the road and they travel more than comedians and this is before GPS. So they would get to wherever their destination was and they'd take their props, which is a parrot for Coco Beware or a snake for Jake the Snake, and they would just take them off the bottom of the bus or out of the trunk of their cars and the snake would be dead and they're like, crap, we gotta find a pet store. So there was like tons of different parrots for this one restaurant tons of different snakes it was like in the budget like we're probably need about like I am 30 snake this man's like god damn it another one man I store I wanted to like garden should have been temperature control that you told me
Starting point is 00:23:16 the cargo hold would be would be fucking parrot friendly stop for lunch I forget to leave these AC on just kill a boa constrictor or a cobra Jake this name gonna dine over the snake They're gonna die to me dude. What are what a wild life that is. What a good time No, that must have been great a lot of a lot of them. Oh, did you did you see that? You love wrestling. Did you see that a movie with Zac Efron? Yeah, I didn't like it Wow I thought best movie I've seen in five years really so here I was saying I'm not a big pro wrestling guy there was moments right so like the very end scene was that guy from when he's crying So I cried that I mean too
Starting point is 00:23:49 And I think that that scene stands alone like that was such a powerful scene about sons and brothers You know the history of that family yes, but the history of our family so bad They have to cut it down. They left out a family member Yeah, they think that cut it. They died. Because the family had so much tragedy and they were so cursed, they had to dull it down for the audience because you would watch it if they put the real family story in there and go, that never happened. Well, that's also why I didn't like the movie because I already knew the Von Erics very
Starting point is 00:24:17 well. I knew the story. But here's the thing about the movie was there was no real hope. So what's the message? Zac Efron's a great guy and ended up being a good dad and being a great brother and misses his brothers. What's the point? The other issue with this movie that a lot of people that know the family said they didn't show
Starting point is 00:24:37 how bad the dad was. They almost made him like, oh, it's the kid's fault. And the vaun acts they consider cursed. It was his obsession. It was his obsession with making with more than his kids were an extension of his ego But there's nothing good about the movie use a mom is frigid and cold The dad is a dickhead who only cared about wrestling so less brothers were all selfish. I mean the whole movie You're just going what is the message? Well, so the message though that's it that's the definition of a tragedy where the the they don't learn their lesson
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah, where you keep it's like she was like So the message though, that's the definition of a tragedy where they don't learn their lesson. Yeah. Where you keep... It's like Schindler's List. It's true. But it's also... It's like Schindler's List. That's like Moby's Dick. Yeah, why do we keep telling that story?
Starting point is 00:25:10 No, but Moby's Dick, Ahab won't give up on the White Whale. He won't. Yeah. He won't. He's like, I'm going to get this White Whale. And then what happens? He gets just taken in with the White Whale. He harpoons it.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It gets wrapped around his leg. Yeah, but let's punch it up. You know, these are movies. Let's give us a jet ski on fire some titties, baby I'm right that's a story house, bro. That's a story. You're right No, what I will say is I feel bad for these wrestlers because we let them be You know this crazy thing like Ric Flair was get got to be Ric Flair and we loved how naughty he was and inappropriate He was he'd be on airplanes waving his wiener around
Starting point is 00:25:46 and like hassling flight attendants. Now he's doing that at Denny's. People are filming. Yeah, but here's the thing. And then now we go, shame on him. That is terrible what he did. And then he's going, wait, what? That's why I feel bad for all these celebrities.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Like even Jack Black. Jack Black and Kyle Gass, they've been patted on the head for the last 20 years Oh, you guys are so good. Keep saying fuck Trump. Oh every time you say fuck Trump Well, you get more money from Hollywood you get more love from us. Good job Good boys keep keep saying fuck Trump and then someone tries to murder Trump They make some offhand remark, which is what they've been patted on the head to do for after those. Yeah, but then they go Can you believe what they said? Itded on the head to do forever. The day after those, the issue. Yeah, but then they go, can you believe what they said?
Starting point is 00:26:26 It's like, you turning on them now? Yeah, and they got canceled. You rewarded that kind of behavior from these fuckers forever. Same with Roseanne. They had to cancel their tour. We let Roseanne be an animal for 25 years and was like, that's what Roseanne does best. And then she just does a Roseanne-like tweet
Starting point is 00:26:41 and everyone goes, can't, that's too far. She didn't even know That woman was black she was Yeah, but they they just love to cancel what I mean the what about the mainstream media who hasn't even Literally is equating another assassination attempt on Trump. Yeah with what with the with Springfield, Ohio. Yeah, it's like hey guys Hey, I'll do it for the fans dude. You are so off on the assassination What do you mean? Which one? The golf one?
Starting point is 00:27:06 Why? He was there for 12 hours, in the tree. A lot of it was off. They caught him 50 miles away. You said there was a shot fired. He didn't squeeze off a shot, I guess. No. But that's the only thing I got wrong, actually,
Starting point is 00:27:15 because he was in the tree for 12 hours. They caught him 50 miles away. Yeah. All of that's true. So it's like, to me, it's like, how are you, and what they said, the Secret Service is like, well, we told him not to golf. No, dude, dude secure the perimeter there was an area where they were taking pictures Yeah, they can take pictures. Well, they didn't get him they caught him
Starting point is 00:27:32 I'm sure 50 miles like the Democrats like if you know, I'm so worried about assassinations. You just shouldn't do rallies It's like no what I know, you know what I caught that's your soul I feel like people's bias is crazy But it's it I used to think is crazy then I started thinking about it because people go it's CNN and Fox News If you only watch CNN you think this and if you only watch Fox News you think this but I've really started thinking about it It isn't Fox News versus CNN. It's Fox News and then Disney ABC NBC CNN So like you wonder why everyone is so one-sided because that's your whole it's because the world is becoming an echo chain
Starting point is 00:28:07 So it's like if you don't kind of like measure your own things it isn't 50-50 But it's also not fair like for the average person like they're busy man So you know I'm saying so it's like go once you look into it's like dude. I got four kids I work in a five my son's in baseball like I just turn on the news I assume they don't know, they're like, I assume they're telling me the truth. It's like, oh my God, Trump's this villain. It's a dictate.
Starting point is 00:28:30 It's never been different. And you're like, oh fuck, you're so crazy. But I always remind people it's never been different for Republicans. If you're a Republican, the press was always against you. Remember when Reagan. They never had more power than Nautilus because of social media.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yes, but when Reagan was shot, when Reagan was shot, there was a lot of celebration on college campuses. I remember it very well. In fact, I did a play and one of the lines in the play was, I haven't been this excited since Reagan was shot. Wow. So I did that. I remember that. So, you know, you got to watch it. But now it's a little different because they can control the narrative when back then they really couldn't. Back then actually, be honest with you there was no new media so there was no pushback. Well I used to think Ronald Reagan and A.C. Reagan were stupid
Starting point is 00:29:09 idiots for being all like aggressive about drugs and now I'm looking at all these crackheads on the street, there were people shitting everywhere and I was like maybe these Reagans were on to something. Yeah, yeah. It took me a little while but maybe they were right this is kind of a problem. It's literally their whole thing they rail on. Yeah, yeah yeah say no to drugs um yeah it's very very tricky but I was I was just bringing that up because it's like it just feels like if four years ago you would have said fake news you like what are you these crazy conservative conspiracy theory right-wing crackpot and now the left will say oh well that's that's not real or that's fake or that's just about like now
Starting point is 00:29:47 Both sides are doing the exact same things. They're calling each other crazy Do you put with I'll never forget one the worst times in my life podcasting? I was getting to it with Eddie you know Eddie's always about conspiracy. Yeah, and he goes where do you get your right by the way? He's Eddie Bravo. Okay. He's the best he's best. So Eddie goes, what do you get your news? Like we're like arguing over September 11th or something. He goes, what do you get your news? I go, CNN? And he goes, you could tell he's about to have an aneurysm. He goes, CNN?
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Starting point is 00:31:33 George Bush won, beat Al Gore, the hanging Chad controversy, okay? They were up in arms. When Hillary Clinton lost, they were like, she won the popular vote. They were freaking out about that. Fraud. Georgia with Kemp, I mean, it goes on and on.
Starting point is 00:31:47 No, it's everything is backwards. Yeah. Like, not backwards, but everything is, the liberals are having the biggest identity crisis ever. Like as far as like, they say, oh keep your laws off our body, but everyone has to get vaccinated. You're like, well what is the laws on our body?
Starting point is 00:32:04 They'll say, hey, come on. Women should be able to do whatever the hell they want with their bodies, but also vaccine mandates. They'll say January 6th was like an abomination. But then they'll be like, oh, but all the black lives are matter riots and damage to property. That was great. It was justified.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Bout time. You're like, wait, what's happening? Everything is so reversed. Black lives matter, riots and damage to property. That was great. Most peaceful. Just about time. You know, you're like, wait, what's happening? Everything is so reversed. But you know when people are like, you know, you always feel like you're in the craziest time that you're living in. We've seen this before in the 70s and the 60s. I'm like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I don't think it's much crazier than this. Well, I would say it is. This feels crazy. 1968, I was going to give you a real quick stat. I was 40. 1968, when I was 40, I was actually one years old. In 1968. I was in college. How many, how many domestic bombings did the United States experience? This is crazy. Who knows? 1100. Okay. 1100 bombings. Can I just do a fact check so we don't get shit online? That's a fact. 1100. How many? Don't worry, you guys never get shit online domestic bombings well I was right about the the only I didn't know is that he didn't squeeze off on the round and they
Starting point is 00:33:12 saw that's a big you saw a glint that's a big note though no shots fired they saw a glint of his rifle or how about this it people aren't allowed to work if they say Sandy Hook was suspicious or whatever, right? Well, in 1970, Brian, there was 468, bud. Still a lot. I said 1968. Yeah, I typed in 1968, but that's what it's popular. In 1968, there were a lot of hard-fought decisions.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It says 45 more rows. Let's hit that. You're going to trust me? A total of, go back, a total of. Oh, there you go. Go down, go down. Ay, go chana. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Sorry, we're yelling at you. It won't go to 1968. It started at 7 here. Oh, the 45 yelling at you. It won't go to 1968. It started at seven. Oh, the 45 rows went up. Look at that though. 21,000 total? That's a lot of bombings.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I would never have thought that. That's another reason I'm upset. Never. Besides the fact that someone's trying to kill Donald Trump, CIA, FBI. But besides that, I also, it's very scary. The reason people should be upset about this, even if you might hate Trump,
Starting point is 00:34:07 the reason you should be very upset about it is, remember when there was no school shootings? And then all of a sudden school shooters just became like of every few month kind of thing. This repeat kind of stuff. So you can say, oh, I don't even care. Trump brought this on himself and that's a terrible thing to say.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But you like your person? You like like Kamala Harris you like your guy How do you guess what you think that this isn't gonna happen on the other side? I know you don't want this pattern to start It's a very very on the left doing the shootings yes, they're just as crazy on the right correct It's crazy the writer way more armed. I'll tell you that than the way better shots Yeah, crazy, crazy. So, you could be, when people go, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee,
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Starting point is 00:35:17 what let's try to murder whoopi Goldberg so close it rips her fucking ear off watch how fast people care being sued by Tucker Carlson. She should be for You know that mmm. I was surprised. I was why what's a big deal? That's a big deal when you say I'm gonna sue you and Tucker has the money Yeah, but that's like when you feed cuz your lawyer will say you have to prove malice. Yeah, what she said about it's a big thing I don't know man. Oh, yeah says something about I don't know. I just saw it. Yeah, I don't know man. Um, hell yeah. It says something about I thought Sean was on the news. I don't know. I just saw it. Yeah, I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:35:50 You sure about it? You see it on TikTok? Uh, no, I saw it on the news. I saw it on my feed. Kyle Rittenhouse suing Whoopi Goldberg. LeBron James and Whoopi. I don't know if he's gonna win that one. There. In the tour across the news plan suing. Wow. No. It is a weird world we live in. I don't know if you can win that one there
Starting point is 00:36:08 It is a weird world we live in just in general We even take that headline Kyle Rittenhouse versus LeBron James right people gonna go fuck that Regular kid and they're gonna identify with a billionaire who plays basketball Yeah, that's who they're on the side that we're not on the side of like working-class cops in Florida We're on the side of Tyreek Hill. Hey, that's terrible that this football player. Even better, you're racist. That's terrible. You're racist.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Those nice Hispanic cops that make $14 a year are pieces of shit. You're like, I don't know, maybe I'm on their side. They're more like me than Tyreek Hill driving a sports car like a jackass and then rolling up his window and acting like he's, what, does he get special rules because he plays in the NFL? Because he's fast. Yeah, like what happened?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Why does he get special treatment? Oh, cops don't care. Oh, I work here, fuck you, we don't know that. Does he really have 12 children? I don't know. He's 28 or whatever. Well, I like a dad, it's good to see that he's a dad. Dude.
Starting point is 00:37:07 But I just think it's very funny that that's become the narrative. B, do you think you got tricked by fake news again? Seven. You gotta be careful of social media. Yeah, but it was on my feed. That's the problem. Really?
Starting point is 00:37:17 The relationships he'll have. Literally on my news. On my Instagram feed? No, on my news feed. On Apple News? Yeah. Three kids. Let me see if I can find it.
Starting point is 00:37:24 No, seven. Oh, seven kids On Apple News? Yeah. Three kids. Let me see if I can find it. No, it's seven. Oh, seven kids. You're so good with sports numbers. Seven kids. That's so weird. Yeah, I mean, I got nothing against Tyree Kill, but that whole narrative of like, look,
Starting point is 00:37:36 look, it's happening. They were so excited to be like, look, look, a cop mistreated a black guy. Isn't it exciting? Share it on all your stories. A police officer, he's doing something bad to a black guy. Isn't it exciting share it on all your stories a police officer He's doing something bad to a black guy isn't this exciting, but I like you what during the same like week as that debate That's happening in a presidential election. I think it's good. It really didn't catch Feet did it people good people like he was acting like an asshole also the whole racist thing those cops weren't white right? It doesn't feel like unless they're white
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, but you can see how black men is treated by cops like no no black white Latin if anybody acts that way exactly dealt that way Do you remember during BLM? That a lot of people were doing their little slam poetry speeches to whatever college campus would listen to them and they'd say Every black person had the same conversation with their parents that when you get pulled over You just we were so afraid get pulled over you just we were so afraid of cops that we that we were taught that you that could be the last day of your life if that was really a conversation every black parent had with
Starting point is 00:38:37 their black kids then why every video do I see they'd be like I know my rights and you don't like they're filming them or they're rolling up the window and be like I'm not doing shit you can't do this you get like that is in that what that what does that do like it in drums up bad before before cops had had cams body cam yeah you were treated differently but maybe you don't know that you can say that with all the conviction that's not fair it that's not fair so so that's that's you're talking about the exception I'm saying their behavior doesn't doesn't
Starting point is 00:39:07 Fit the storyline that they're terrified their their behavior doesn't look like they're scared of cops It looks like they're not afraid of cops at all. They're provoking the authority which has a gun and power You're all you guys are off on this when you in the night So in the 90s and so before cameras in the nineties, let's just take, I'm sorry, but if you were a black motorist, you and two white cops pulled up on you, there were a lot of reasons to be nervous. So I've just talked to-
Starting point is 00:39:35 Wait, wait, for the- I've talked to- Mike, so falling on a cop for 30 years. So hold on. There's a lot of reason to be nervous for the cop. Do you know the stats? I do, I do. What I'm saying is that, so with Rodney King, when those riots happened- Great guy nervous for the cop. Do you know the stats? I do. I do. What I'm saying is that so with Rodney King, yes, when those great guy by the way, when those riots happened,
Starting point is 00:39:49 they should create nothing wrong. It wasn't that it wasn't that uncommon. I don't think that's why the Watts riots happened. But Brian, do you believe that I'm saying all cops are correct? No, no cops make bad assessments. But Brian, do you believe that I'm saying all cops are correct? No. No, cops make bad assessments. They're afraid for their lives. I'm not saying cops are virtuous and perfect. What I'm saying is this whole narrative of like, I was so terrified.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Well, you're not behaving terrified behavior. All the behavior I'm seeing isn't terrified. That's you being like a punk. You being like, I'm putting this on it. You're like poking the bear. And it like you're like let's put it poking the bear and it's a goddamn bear back but also how do you think it's gonna go no no no because back in the day the history of being black in a redline neighborhood was to be policed by white police officers what I'm saying is that
Starting point is 00:40:39 in any community like that you back before you had cameras didn't have a lot of recourse. Okay. But where are you getting this information? Like in what world? From the history of my country. That is not, there's no historian that would argue that being black, they wouldn't. They would being black in say Watts or Crenshaw. And yes, there was a lot of crime. Where you are being policed by a predominantly white police force. But why were the police down there so much, right? And the reason that they have now, because of the Watts riots,
Starting point is 00:41:10 because of the Rodney King riots, and the list goes on, because there were just too many examples, the reason that they started using black police officers, figuring out a way to get people of color like Hispanic, into the force, into the force, into the force, right police those neighbors was to feel a little bit more like They're part of the hundred percent. That's all so then how does 20 jump to 2020? Well now so now hold on so now that's a function of social media that highlighted the few examples when it's true When ra George Floyd that year nine out of ten arrests, only nine unarmed black men were shot.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Correct. It is true. Policing is pretty amazing. You don't get better than that. Right. So why was there this big swelling up and uproar in 2020 with the narrative you're speaking about for the 60s and 70s and 80s or whatever before cameras. And 90s. You're speaking to these historical,
Starting point is 00:42:05 any historian worth his salt, it used to be the history of my country, which is quite a leap. Yeah. To 2020. That's a factor. I think some of it is just, you know. Emotions and feelings.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Pent in frustration. I think it's history. I think social media, so they've done this too. Around 2012, 2013, when everybody had an iPhone and social media really started taking off, that's when you started to see the fracturing and the echo chambers develop. And all of a sudden now all I'm getting on my feet
Starting point is 00:42:36 is racism stuff and these examples. So now, people who are young who have no perspective go, we live in a racist society, when in fact it's the least racist it's ever been. Correct. Like I always say, you guys think you know racism or homophobia, try growing up in the 70s and 80s like I did. I remember it, like try being in Brooklyn
Starting point is 00:42:54 and wearing a shirt that looked a little gay. This poor millionaire can't even drive his Ferrari 50 miles an hour through his work zone, racist. It's like that's insane. But you're just talking about the twisting of truth, right? Yes. So of course. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Of course, of course. And also, I identify a lot more with a hardworking police officer who's just trying to get to the bottom of why a jackass is speeding to the football stadium while people are crossing a crosswalk to watch that billionaire or millionaire. Nothing drives me crazier when I see people treating a cop with a lack of respect like that.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Just provoking a cop. Like the guy pulled you over, okay? You're obviously doing something. He's checking out, trying to make the world safer. And some cops are assholes. Yeah, sure, but the black people are assholes too. But that's what people forget. Remember they're human, so they want to go home to their face.
Starting point is 00:43:40 They're afraid. So when they pull over a cop full of black men and they know the stats, they know the odds of them getting shot are much higher, they're gonna be a little more on guard. Let's put it this way, when you're a cop and you've been on the force a long time, you develop something called pattern recognition, right? And you go, there's something going on in that car. That's racist.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Why do you hate black people? Could be white trash dudes, could be whatever. How dare you piece of shit. Yeah, and you go, that looks, I've seen how that ends, that story ends. Yeah. Now it's rare.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I was hoping they'd shoot him because he's a dolphin. I just don't like the dolphin. I get it, I get it. They took two out. You could take out one of the white players, I don't care, the point is. Dolphins are screwed. Dolphins are screwed, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah, two is out. Yeah. Anyways, I'm sorry I drummed all that up. I just wanted to get some of this off my chest It's worth talking about four years ago. I wasn't allowed to I had to say no Full of my friends. I know that's what's funny, right? I'd wait four years I said in my basement. Yeah. Hey guys, thanks for coming to the meeting. Yeah, I go guys guys I'll do the show here Women are fucking crazy, right? That's how I start and then we end with some race stuff
Starting point is 00:44:49 and I make a door deal. All right, what do you got, Jim? I just wanna chime in real quick with the body cam stuff. I've been obsessed with watching body cam footage for the last, I don't know, about a year. Nice. And pattern recognition. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Every time the cop has to become a dick is because the person is being so fucking wild. So you agree Yeah, so if I'm getting pulled over me personally and I'm like not I don't show you my idea I know I'm gonna get fucked with yeah, exactly. You're looking to be provisional. Why was I pulled over my favorite part? Why am I you've got to tell me? Koreans you know my favorite my fight favorite part when people defend that well, you've got to tell me why you're pulling me over. Oh, you're racist against Koreans? You're racist against Asians? No, my favorite part is when people defend that. Well, he didn't have to roll down his window. I'm like-
Starting point is 00:45:29 I know. No, you don't. Technically, you don't. Cooperation is going to go a lot better. Your life's going to be so much easier if you're just fucking cool, man. You just made the point a lot more articulate and less emotional, which I appreciate. I was only trying to say that, and in accordance to what you just said, is that if you really are so afraid of the police
Starting point is 00:45:49 as you're claiming, then it isn't in your best interest to say these kind of questions of, well, you're just pulling me over because I'm a fucking black, and they're like, no, no, I'm just asking you for your ID, we pulled you over, you don't have to throw, I know my rights and I'm in law school and like, oh I saw that too. That's a bunch of people who are looking to be oppressed because it gives them some social
Starting point is 00:46:11 clout that they can put on social media. I think that's a little like ridiculous to also co-align with the narrative of like, we are all so afraid. It might be the last day. It's like, that doesn't look like afraid behavior. But don't you think every time I hear this, don don't think we're all being gamed on either side like you and I we're all being We're all victims of our algorithm, right? So we see these examples and we're like these fucking assholes and I just feel like all of us are being
Starting point is 00:46:35 Just literally cordoned off into our own little corner without even realizing it and we're like and another thing about these woke Motherfuckers where most sort of I feel like I've managed it pretty well as of like recently. Really? Yeah, like I know where I'm being, you know... Influenced? Well, yeah, and I can go, I don't agree with that. You're being... It's really easy to just look at the stats.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. That's not a big deal. Or just go like, I'm sensitive to what people believe. Like if you're a gay person and you everyone is or a trans person and you genuinely have been taught that everyone's out to get you or treating you different Or thinks that you should be better off dead if you really believed that you'd be like you would be in a kind of a constant state of Man, I'm a woman Yeah, I mean like I've I whenever I go to a coffee shop, and there's a trend
Starting point is 00:47:23 That's where I see all my trans people. I'm very nice to them, and I'm sensitive to like oh, mean like I've whenever I go to a coffee shop and there's a trans that's where I see all my trans people I'm very nice to them and I'm sensitive to like oh, they're gonna be very triggered by words and so I'm very very kind about say but same with like all my conservative friends if you believed That every time someone got an abortion that a baby was dying You believed that that our country has made it legal to kill babies. Now I don't feel that way, but if I would, I'm sensitive to someone thinking they're literally murdering babies.
Starting point is 00:47:51 They're gonna be freaked out. So they're gonna be in a constant state of like, that is wrong to me. Like I, so I'm sensitive to what people believe is their truth. It's how you're educated to your point. There are a whole generation of young women coming out of colleges that are told
Starting point is 00:48:04 that they live in the Patriarchy which means I'm sensitive to that want to kill you they want to rape you Yeah, it's rape culture and so men become the adversary and then so that jacks your your your Anxiety way up. Yeah, and so men are considered to be tyrants and you never see how about the other side of things men as protectors providers Yeah, gentlemen all those things their lens It's their lens, yeah, yeah. So I do think that education... It's also a waste of energy too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:30 It's not true. Who is it when Trump goes, two plus two is six, yo. Cool? Well, and that's why I'm always going back to the, like, what do I believe? I always go back to that, like, well, where am I being kind of, like you just said, sanctioned off into my own belief system? But it's like liberals used to be anti-war. Yes liberals have become pick a side in the war Right. Oh, I'm with Ukraine on this or I'm with Gaza on or whatever
Starting point is 00:48:57 The fucking thing is when we didn't used to do that. We used to just say war is bad Can you guys not war? You wouldn't just pick a side of a war and then get mad. And you're vilified if you don't side with that. Right, and then not talk to anyone who doesn't side. That is not liberal thinking. My father's coming in town. We don't agree politically.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Usually it's like two Siamese fish. If it gets brought up, it's fucking on. We both like to argue. But then I was just like, as I'm getting older, again, he's busy, he just watches CNN. So I'm like, that's his perspective. It's not worth arguing. He'll say something, I'll go, cool.
Starting point is 00:49:33 What about the fact that you're not allowed, what I was saying is I'm not allowed to tell the truth. So for example, if you want to talk about what the problem is in a lot of marginalized communities, what the real problem is, where the real issue is, is 73% of the kids are born out of wedlock. So there's no father in the home.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Maybe. How about that? Can we talk about that? That's a good diagnosis of what might be the problem. But you're not allowed to say that. It's definitely not helping. You can say that. But you're not allowed to say that.
Starting point is 00:49:57 It's not helping for sure. It's not the sole problem. I would argue that if you just taught every young person that there's no nefarious society that's out to get you. There's no boogeyman around the corner that is prejudiced against you because of your looks or your race or your class system or the money in your bank account
Starting point is 00:50:17 or your parents or your culture. If you just said, hey, we're all different, every single person has its own issues, its own things, and it's up to you to fix. There's no Superman coming either. There's no boogie man, there's no Superman. Just be- There's no handouts.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Work your ass off. But how about this? How about a radical idea, ready? Some cultures work better than others. Did you read Hillbilly Elegy by JD Vance? That's what put him on the map. No. Hillbilly Elegy is his family were hillbillies.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And his family- They made a movie about it. His family was all about violence. That's how you solve your problems. Education was at a very low family, his family was all about violence. It was, that's how you solve your problems. The education was at a very low premium and it goes on and on. And he said, it's not just a black thing. It's a white thing. It's a white hillbilly thing. Well, I've read many things like the Thomas Soule is great books about these kinds of
Starting point is 00:50:56 things. But what I was saying is if I was to teach a kid a thing, I would say, listen, dude, sky's the limit for you. If you just are polite and you work hard, instead of teaching these kids about rights and privileges and saying, oh, you know, you're in a bad position because you're a woman, or you're in a bad position because everyone's out to get you. And this is how I've taken responsibility, is that I often will find myself feeling like a victim
Starting point is 00:51:22 because now they're out against straight white guys. But now I'm doing the same thing I hate when other people do. I know, but you're right. I know, but I can't leave an audition and go, dude, probably not going to give it to me because all the woke people are against straight white. I'm now guilty of the same thing I get mad at people. It also doesn't help anything. It doesn't help.
Starting point is 00:51:42 How may I give you that role with those boots? What you teach everyone, yeah baby, I'm a cowboy, but I. Dude, I love those. What I teach, what I would, young people should know, is just work hard and be nice, have a good attitude. Don't worry about the rest. Sky's the limit, nothing's out to get you, don't look at the system, you hit the jackpot,
Starting point is 00:51:59 baby, you live in America, everything could be fine. If you're sad because you're fatty, lose the weight. If you don't like your tits, get a tit job. If you feel gross, eat better. If you're not in Moscow, get on tier 2. At the end of the day, it's on you. There's a great Rumi quote where he says, Yesterday I was clever so I wanted to change the world, but today I am wise so I will change myself.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I love that. And it's brilliant. I love it. And that predates the Bible because the only thing you can change is you. So quit crying about the patriarchy, or cops, or racist ideologies, or the Republicans, or the Democrats. Just work on yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Get to work. Yeah, get to work. It's so simple. And the world is beautiful, and people will like you if you just change your fucking attitude. Give me one law, just give me one law, wait, that if you're a marginalized person a woman a person of color Give me one law that's against you. Yeah, just just one. I don't know anyone
Starting point is 00:52:53 I mean, I don't I don't worry about you about my government I don't wait for the government to fix the homeless problem I don't want to give more of my money to the government to fix they don't fix anything No, no So it's like that's another thing that an old liberal used to say that now a new liberal would be like, no give all the money to the government. They'll fix our problems.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Hey the government knows your body more than you. Fauci knows your body. Trust your government. If you're based on the government figuring things out or making things better for you, you're on your fucking own. That is not a liberal idea. They've completely lost their minds.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And now the new rule is. That's why we should storm the Capitol. Alright, what do you got, Jen? Wait! Oh, I was there, baby. Me and Chin, we were at the January 6th. I can't imagine you- Tell everybody. Chin gets shot right away, just so tall. I'd have brought her, but she didn't respond. But me and Chin, we were there, baby.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Chin just so tall with a giant head. Look at what Israel's doing right here. Hold on. Look at what Israel's doing. Blowing up pagers? Blowing up pagers? No, hold on. That's a different story. Okay, I'm sorry. We're talking about P. Diddy. Sorry, let's go to P. Diddy. Yeah, so let's- We got speaking in, guys. Sorry, sorry. And Judge is holding him without bail. He came out this morning and his team was like, what if you release somebody promises not to speak or see any women? And the Judge was still like, no. Yeah, that's not how it works. But this is not how it works.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Judge was like, no, because he fucked a ton of dudes actually you know I know yeah that's funny yeah they're really they're really trying to make it a gender thing too like they don't want it to be like you know they got 50 eyewitnesses that they've brought in 50 yeah you know if he was a female by the way they would let him out for that reason they would go go, okay, he should be able to, as long as she doesn't talk to any boys or men. Because like, I remember there was a, this is Canada though, Canada law.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Some woman murdered a guy. It's in a documentary called Dear Zachary. And the judge let her be out with no, like, until court, like just until she had about tri-threats. Because they go, well, she killed all the people she's mad at. And you're like, that's not how this works. And that's kind of what he was trying to do.
Starting point is 00:54:50 He was like, hey, I'm not gonna see any young boys. I think he's so screwed. I think they have a bunch of stuff. They took all his shit, remember. You got him on video beating up a lady, don't they? That didn't matter though. It's because of statute of limitations. You'll never live that down.
Starting point is 00:55:03 They got 50 apparently famous eyewitnesses. And it says like he has a 15 year minimum if he gets caught buying bars, probably up to life with the sex trafficking sticks. But you know what else they found when they were raiding the house apparently was over a thousand bottles of lube. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I heard about this. Some of this stuff is. What a weird, well, cause all the guys, you know, their butts can't get wet. You don't know. Vaginas can get wet, but a butt, you got to lube up. You know what I mean? You got to lube up.
Starting point is 00:55:30 What, if we're going to talk about it, I don't know why you're shaking your head over there. She brings up 1,000 bottles of lube, then I explain it to her, and now she gets all queer on me. But lube, yeah, it might be lube parties, but you cover your whole body in lube. Oh, yeah. Have these day-long sex party. That's crazy
Starting point is 00:55:45 Can we also do you guys agree with this if I was a king of America? I'd get rid of the statue of limitations. Yeah makes no sense. Why is that enough times past like it never happens? You don't have evidence cuz you people because what if you do have like that's like When they when they made that law, they were thinking of cell phones and body cams. Yeah, well that would be different, right? But I think a lot of it is a lot. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:56:10 We have a video of him whooping her ass. Because when witnesses are interviewed with enough time that passes, stories are not really happening. But Brian, it's on video. Video is a memory. In that case, yeah. No, that's statute of limitation.
Starting point is 00:56:22 That's why we're saying they need. Like, if it's actual busy. If someone in Polanski raped a woman's mouth, vagina and butthole. No, no, yeah. That's actually limitation. That's why we're saying they need. Like, if it's actual busy. Cronman Polanski raped a woman's mouth, vagina, and butthole. No, no, no. A child. A 13 year old. Gave her wine and quail eggs,
Starting point is 00:56:31 raped every orifice of her body. 13 years. Then left to a different country, comes back and they go, that was a long time ago. And you go, what do you mean it was a long time ago? I don't care how long. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 You know, the P. Diddy thing, it's not that long ago, and it's pretty good footage. It's the best footage showing up. And they're like, bad. I didn't know that there was a statue. Let's get rid of this statue. I got news for you. They probably don't need that.
Starting point is 00:56:54 They got enough of other shit. Oh no, we're saying different things. You're talking about murder. No, 100%. Bombings. Yeah. Sex trafficking. What about the poor woman he hit?
Starting point is 00:57:02 She wants justice. She already got her money too. Well, you realize that everything she said is true, right? When you see that you go, oh, everything she said is true. Think how much she got paid. But she is a woman, Brian. Could everything she said be true? Well, when you see that... I don't think everything.
Starting point is 00:57:16 When you see that... Yeah. That's my thing. When you see a monster and then you have it on video, if you're capable of doing that, like beating the crap out of her, you're capable of doing that. But also, there were signs. Did you not watch Making the Band? How mean he was till he fucking gets it.
Starting point is 00:57:31 He pulls up at one morning and goes, I need my favorite cheesecake. Y'all watch. You got two hours. Wait, what is this Making the Band thing? What is this? On MTV, Making the Band? So he was searching for a band called Making the Band.
Starting point is 00:57:43 He put them through the worst shit ever. Everyone's like, this is so good, go Diddy. Dude, he made them walk through the fucking hood in New York for four hours to get his favorite cheesecake. And I heard he fucked them all in the butt. Probably. Listen, you never know, but he's an awful person. Especially that guy top right, he looks devastated.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah, if we talked to that guy on your podcast right now, he'd be like, yeah, Brandon man man, fuck the cheesecake. He fucked my ass. I don't mind the whole cheesecake walking through Harlem thing. I was doing that before the whole ass stuff. Did any of them ever make it? It was all that Looby put on. Did any of them ever come out of like? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:58:17 No, no. One of them did, I think. The girl group did. Yeah. Danity Kane. He did Danity Kane making the band with that. But then like Aubrey. That's not this.
Starting point is 00:58:24 So there's making the this was the Kane making the band with that, but then like Aubrey... That's a different... That's not this. So this was the first making the band. I think this guy Choppa was probably like the most successful. Oh yeah, low... And Dylon, Dylon, Dylon is from Deja Bell's game. You know what is fascinating? How the fuck did P Diddy make it through the Me Too movement if this is all paid? I know.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Payment, payment. What in the hell? Payment. It was also, it's a different community. Everybody keeps their mouth shut because that guy had people that could kill you. They were afraid of him. He had, Kid Cudi, apparently that's true
Starting point is 00:58:54 that he got his car blown up. But hear me out, do you feel like maybe, this is real deep, this is Eddie Bravo stuff here, do you think that maybe every time there's an election, it's like they have a big filing cabinet and they just look through some things. They go, oh, we could do this P. Diddy one, an election's coming up.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's almost like all these things magically, like now we're talking about this. Or we're, you know. It is weird. You know, when Hunter Biden was being investigated and then Donald Trump got arrested, magically everyone's talking about some submarine explosion that happened in the... Like, there's these things just kind of pop up out of nowhere that catch everyone's attention.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Epstein? I'm with you. The whole Epstein stuff, just take your focus on what's going on. Sure. I just don't know still why we don't see that. It's crazy. I mean, why are we talking about P. Diddy butt-fucking band members when there's an election happening and it's also and people and the CIA is trying to kill a former president. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Well, this is the least of my worries. I'm like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Try shooting Trump. Shut up. Don't talk about that. A thousand Lou. You're saying you're saying we're trying to take our attention away. There was a, there was a 18 year old with no social media that got eight shots off at our president. But look at P. Diddy, though. He almost blew our president's head off on live television. They go, did you know P. Diddy butt fucks kids? You go, what?
Starting point is 01:00:14 And they never mention it. I'll come back to that. They don't mention the two assassination attempts. Can't you do this in the slow times of the news? Why is it happening now? It is strange how this stuff starts to boil up. Kind of curious. Yeah, that's right. That submarine, the Titanic, like know? Why is it happening now? It is strange how this stuff starts to boil up. Kind of curious. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:00:26 That submarine, the Titanic, took it by storm. And I was, what happened in Ukraine? What's going on here? What happened in Ukraine? The news. Where are those on the news cycle? Americans are boring. I want that filing cabinet just full of things
Starting point is 01:00:39 where they're like, all right, this is the one now. Because that's what it feels like. I wonder if they call Diddy like, you're a buddy. We need you, buddy. Well, remember, don't worry. Don't worry. I think they found a bunch of shit and they're like oh we got our thing now let's go. Here we go. Here's one I came across this. I already like it because it's John Boy. It's called the most dangerous sport. It's called Red versus Blue. Oh yeah. To play the clip. It's like Red Rover. It's crazy. So this is Red versus Blue. Oh I have seen this. Front lines They just box each other and do mix more bare knuckles. They're gonna
Starting point is 01:01:09 Try to get the ball into the other end, right? It's all sand. It's a 50-minute match It's tied up seven apiece and we're an extra time now because of 50 minutes has expired that guy gets tackled He loses the ball and you see that that's why you want to have the upper ground when you're pinning someone down So he's gonna get so so he can get the ball throws the ball backwards and that red dude is that blue dude? So he's able to punch it out of there because he's got him pinned down some Italian games Medieval stuff that they still do now He's got an open lane next goal wins because we're in extra time.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And he's just going to throw that all the way down. Blue's got a beat on it, but they just hold him back. It goes into the end zone and red win. You've never seen this. That's pretty awesome. Doesn't it feel like that's what I picture the yard is like in prison? Me too.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Like those are the games they play in jail. That's what I picture. Supposed to emulate medieval fighting. MMA and rugby. Yeah. Which team would you be on, red or blue? I'm not answering that. It depends if I'm a Crip or a Bluff.
Starting point is 01:02:13 That's what I'm saying. Which one? You'd rather be a Crip or a Bluff? I'm not saying. Oh, this is how they should solve the whole presidential debate, dude, Democrats versus Republicans. Good old fashioned knife fight. Let me know how it goes.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I'd be red all the way, dude. Look at me. I didn't wear boots today for nothing. Team red. Yeah, you guys, I want your opinion on this one. So a lot of fans are coming out and ripping apart Sean O'Malley's coach for some of the stuff he was saying in his corner.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Because at one point he even said, we're almost done with this. And it was clear O'Malley wasn't looking good in that fourth round. So why would you even say that? I don't know. What does that mean? Like he was saying like, we're almost done with this.
Starting point is 01:02:51 What do you think he means? Like what is, what are they implying that he means? That he like, he just wasn't his night. Like he wanted to get out of there. We're almost done with it. Those two are best, best friends. Best friend. So, you know, whatever Tim was saying,
Starting point is 01:03:03 he's trying to help his friend out. they have matching tattoos look at his neck so far that that duo's done a pretty damn good job I say in MMA yeah they've done great it could be an issue though because they're so close sometimes you don't want your best friend giving you advice you know I'm saying where coach you respect so much I'm sure that he respects them but you know you're not scared of them like if you're my coach and you tell me this, I'm like, yeah, I got it, dude. You know, it's like, it's a different relationship.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I should ask you this. Should we be hearing what they're talking about in the corner? No. Usually you do. It's none of our goddamn business. You should have. You're doing boxing though, you're doing.
Starting point is 01:03:37 That doesn't mean it's right. I know, but we don't need to mic the coaches in Major League Baseball. No, I don't think we should mic them up. Has it ever been different in the UFC though? Oh yeah, oh yeah. This is new. That's not true. When did they give coaches mics?
Starting point is 01:03:50 I mean I remember hearing... Say it one more time. When did they put audio to corners? It's not that when they have a camera on you, you hear it sometimes. I know, but why... I think to myself, we shouldn't be hearing what they're... Oh, they have audio? Okay. Guys, what fight was it where the beginning, I think it was Herb warned one of the fighters,
Starting point is 01:04:11 do not talk to the coach like that. He was like, let me do my job. I don't know. Well, that was when, I think, what's his name? Tim was yelling at Marab. Yeah, and Marab was chirping at him. I think the coach was getting more shit, his coach getting more shit because he was yelling at Marab and Marab. Yeah, and Marab was like chirping at him. I think the coach was getting more shit, his coach getting more shit because he was yelling at Marab, which is a little unprofessional. Like I'd be embarrassed as a fighter
Starting point is 01:04:31 if my coach was yelling at my opponent. I'm like, hey, what are you doing, dude? That's interesting. But they had beef in it, I don't know. There's a better way to like search it, but I just looked for when they start miking corners, nothing's popping up. Probably in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I feel like, yeah, in the beginning, I don't remember hearing it. They didn't do it, no. Yeah. Well, I'm just wondering if it's really for me to hear. It's just like, I don't think I really need to start poking in on, wow. It's fun for fans, like a supplemental thing they add to it,
Starting point is 01:04:59 which is fun for fans, but it's not necessary at all. Yeah. No, I think it should be private. No, I think it's interesting for me. No it's interesting as fans. I like it. They got like outfielders with microphones in Major League Baseball and they're like they're goofing off and then all of a sudden he's like he starts running to get a fly ball and I'm like let him focus. I'm watching the Dodgers 2 out and they got mic'd up last night so in high school he's like yeah you know in high school and he's going through those stories like in high school they're like oh dude! Yeah. He catches the ball and he's like, yeah, you know in high school, and he's going through the whole story, he's like, in high school, they're like, oh, give it, give it, give it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Catches the ball, he's sort of like, woo, that was close. Can we just wait till he's off the goddamn field to interview him? But this is my whole thing with the UFC, with all this, and Brian's like, I like the comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 It's not for you. Yeah. Like, if the fighting is not enough. Yeah. If the baseball's not enough, if the football's not enough, go somewhere else. What if every time I punch, I've got to say a homophobic slur?
Starting point is 01:05:48 You know? I don't want that mic. Watching the coach say it in real time is interesting for us. Like, that's part of the fight game. Right? It's still part of the game. But you don't have to have it. You don't have to have it. I love Brad and Angelina Jolie. Why can't I hear what they talk about when they go to sleep? Why can't I subscribe and hear them mic'd up all day? I want to see if the coach says try this, this and that and then he does this, this and that. But no other sport does that. Can you imagine how often the coordinator was mic'd up?
Starting point is 01:06:19 Oh, yeah. And Brian's like, I just want to see what they're doing on offense. The strategy. Yes, I do, but you're giving away their game plan. That wouldn't work., why would it might be the similar if you're educated enough on football? I would work No, that's what I'm saying that that one's in because the other team would hear it. They'd figure out how it is in this live So yes, yes, this is live so they could have like a little thing It's easier to control you can't do that with the NFL because they if you're gonna tell them what their offensive coordination is They're gonna be a little long time planning. Yeah. So for this, it's like, I don't mind it. I mean, if you said we can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:06:48 I don't like it either because also you can see the way the communication between the coach and the fighter for the future fights. That's why Mark Henry would do certain code words and he would change it every single fight because he knew they were miked up. And they would download his codes and he'd have to change it every single fight because he knew they were miked up. And they would download his codes and he'd have to change every single fight. I was wondering how long playbooks last in the NFL because every time, if a team goes to the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 01:07:13 they almost inevitably lose their defensive coordinator or offensive coordinator to become a head coach for a different team. Which means now, I know the whole defensive scheme for the team I just played for last year, you have to just change everything every year? But they usually get a guy so that you know, it's like it's like good old boys club So if the guy comes from say Mike Shadahan's tree of coaching like it's a Westin
Starting point is 01:07:34 She's no they have a similar system. So they might have different names with these guys can understand the concept So you'll see a guy that comes in usually somewhere along that tree Yeah, so cuz if say it's a new offense coordinator for say Dak Prescott You can't just put in a fucking brand new guy teach him all new shit He's gonna have to come in and have some sort of background interesting Well, so wait, is there audio this cuz I'd like to know what you guys think he meant by we're almost done I still don't know what it means, but they need some content. I definitely remember. It's also price taking on contents He might be like, hey, we're almost done with this.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You got one more round. We're almost done with this. Give it everything you got. Oh, yeah. That's what I would assume. I haven't seen it. I have no idea. I remember watching it, and when he said it, there was no follow-up after that.
Starting point is 01:08:17 So it was kind of odd for me because it was obvious Shaggy wasn't doing great at that point. And I would have thought maybe... No, this to me is like... is people reading in but again like people shouldn't be having a mic like that close this is somewhat related do you think Sean O'Malley is attractive you're the only girl in here yeah he looks like a crazy person you think so sure that's Wow. That's what I thought about looks. He looks crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:46 If I was a chick, I would look at that guy and go, Jesus, what is this, a SoundCloud rapper? Like if I was a chick, I would not be my type of guy. Sean O'Malley. Nah, he's a unique. As a bro, he's my type of guy. I'd kick it with that guy every day. I'd hang out with him.
Starting point is 01:09:00 But as a- Yeah, Max Cuddy was my type. You asked if I thought he was good looking. Yeah, attractive. He's cute. And you said yes. A lot of people are good looking.. That's what now you're trying to wiggle out of it Sean Sean. Yeah, he has a unique look He's like he's like yeah, he's a peacock. Yeah a different look amongst fighters. He's a unique. He's an original Oh, yeah, looks like you're looking dude when you let my he's out for a while if you let my nephew do whatever he want
Starting point is 01:09:22 Oh, yeah, yes, that's surgery. He's a hip surgery. Yeah, how do you feel about him saying that afterwards? He said it was ten weeks before the fight with Marab. So you give him crap for like having to say I don't give him crap for anything. For saying what? Just saying that he had an injury before the you know the fight because he lost Oh, interesting. Probably did but but also everyone does but also the coach could always like we're almost out of here That could also be like his hips. Oh, yeah, it could be a bunch of things I just didn't know what the hell where where where he's injuring it more So he's like dude just get to us just bite down on the bullet get through it cuz we're almost out of here I know your hips about to fucking fall off me one round. Yeah, man
Starting point is 01:09:58 Or maybe he was talking about the conflict in Ukraine. We're all done. You know what? Yeah. I never thought of that. Yeah. Dude. You know, he's just giving him a little content in the corner, yeah. I think he looks cool there. Just, you know, it's always like, for me, it's like you watch this duo that has done so well
Starting point is 01:10:17 against so many odds. When you get to the top of the game and you hold the belt for that long, and then you lose to a monster wrestler. We didn't hold the belt that long, bro. But long enough. enough. It's a long time. No, you wouldn't say long How long has he been champion? How long pretty long time how many times you defend the belt chin twice Sean? Yeah Twice right? I think Aljoe beat Cheeto Aljoe. Peter. Yeah, so go down chin. Yeah of water either way
Starting point is 01:10:44 I mean, you know. We're almost done, he says. To get to the top of the food chain like that, and then now they're like, well, you know, his coach was this, it's like, shut up. No, but you wouldn't say he defended the belt for a long time. Long time's like Jose Aldo, John Jones, like that's- Who's the goat?
Starting point is 01:11:00 John Jones. John Jones is the goat, thank you. So look, he won the belt from Al Joe He defended it once against Cheeto and then lost so he had the belt under a year 18 and two is pretty good He's a great fighter not that's not impressive be bomb say you wouldn't say he defended for a long time. That's incorrect Correct would be like Joe's's alto could be GSP like
Starting point is 01:11:25 you're talking like years that I'm about to be the go-to I'm gonna learn this stuff you'll see it's the toughest it's the toughest thing you do in the world especially at the lower weight classes it's impossible to do what would Jeff's weight class be wait till I get in there that's actually be a one you'd be a 185 er okay yeah I mean there are guys your size that are 170, it's hard. Yeah. I'm like Bamboo, baby. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:11:48 Dallseem from Street Fighter, you know that guy? Dallseem. Yogi in the day, ass kicking at night. How much do you weigh right now? I'm 210. I mean, that's- 170, 100% then. Yeah, there are guys that suck down.
Starting point is 01:12:00 With your length? Yeah, height. Neil Magne. Neil Magne, yeah. And Darren Tillman. I'm gonna start going to John Jacques Machado's school. Nice. That's a big time school, bud.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm excited about it. It'll be cool. Just wanna meet some people, learn how to- Those legs? You're gonna love it, dude. Yeah, I'm excited. I've heard it's like a community. It's like a brotherhood.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Nothing better, yeah. And that's why I wanna do it. I bet you get addicted to it. I want to, yeah. I get really into things. You know, like I learn a thing and then I just They do gee there right I don't know you should do learn I met a guy at the cigar lounge and he was The buddy that I took to the cigar lounge my buddy Jonathan Mitchell shout out to him
Starting point is 01:12:39 And he was like he's been doing it Maybe not at this school, but a different one. And it's like changed his life. Because he's kind of this hipster-y guy. He's never had like masculine men like in his life. He never really cared for that. He's a really nice guy. He's got two kids. He's got a, you know, a great wife.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And then he started going to this and he's like, dude, it's great. I've met like other awesome like honorable men. He's made me a better dad. He deleted all his social media. He's like, he just really like, it's really put him kind of on this little narrow. And so then we met another guy who knows this guy and he's like, you should go to this guy's.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And I was, so now I'm going. That's thing for a boy too. That's one of the best schools. Yeah. Muchado is legit. Good for you. Close to here, ain't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Yeah. Now very quickly, don't get as great as Marab. Congrats. Awesome. Don't get too, don't get too used to him being at the top. Maybe we don't know Who we talking about think that you're gonna see my bra Mar is going to Snatch that belt right off. You all said that sugar would be Marab, you know His name is Marab. I think who Mar is gonna I think Rob's
Starting point is 01:13:43 Good here with who mark. I think you'd be surprised really? Yeah, and I think Umar is gonna, I think Marab's wrestling is no good here with Umar. I think you'd be surprised. Really? Yeah. And I think Umar is a way better striker. What's Marab's bite force PSI? That's the question! No, Travis the Chimp versus Marab. All of your respect to Marab, he's awesome. You know Marab outstruck Sugar. Not even close. Well, shut out. He was shutting him, he was basically bop bop bop and closing distance. Okay, whatever you want to say. It was all wrestling, it was all wrestling. Yeah. It was wrestling, it's not striking, it was wrestling.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And he's now gonna have his, I'd love to put a wager on, you don't want to bet against Umar, right? I'll tell you what, I'll bet you, name two fighters Umar's beat. Well, the two guys I've watched, I don't know their names, but I mean, I've watched his fights. No bets. But they're all tough guys. Until you do some research on Umar, I won't bet you.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Besides Corey Sandhagen. Besides Corey Sandhagen, who did a great job against him. But the only name that, you know, because Umar was number 13, then jumped up. I know. You know? So the only guy he's fought who's amazing is Corey Sandhagen. If I think the guy's full of shit, I bet.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Now the other fight is Corey Sanhagen and Shawn, which I think is gonna happen. No, it's not happening. Sugar's out for a long, long time. He's hurt. But I'll bet you when you can do some research on Umar and tell me who else he's fought. No, I-
Starting point is 01:14:56 Just say that, because you can't base it off the Corey Sanhagen fight. But you're right. I don't, he hasn't fought names that you would know right now, right? So Umar didn't fight anybody in the top- He's had tough competitions though. But- what you would you would you but it's just because this can be the narrative and it's not I'm not taking on you the
Starting point is 01:15:10 narrative is umar striking so good Marabas have so many problems with him my answer to my rebuttal all that is cool who has he fought where you learned that it's a period no it's a Sanhagen sure okay sure it's a parroting thing though. Because if you do the, if you look into it, his striking is good, no doubt. Better than Marab's. Well, Sugar's is light years ahead of Marab's. He loves Paris.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And that didn't go well. I understand. But you're going to say his wrestling. And my rebuttal of that, now you and the rest of the fan base, you're going based off the wrestling against Corey Sandahagan, who is not a wrestler. No, I'm going against his wrestling in general with his fights. Okay, again, name what fight impressed you with his wrestling. Well, I mean, his ability to stop takeouts.
Starting point is 01:15:52 This is my whole point, you know what I'm saying? It's no different than politics where like, Kamala this and this, it's headlines. No, no, no, no. But when you look into it. But Umar has really just, Umar's wrestling, so he's got two Olympians in his camp. They train all the time. Wrestling, even though Umar started as a striker, Umar is steeped in that wrestling, right? So in terms of what you're saying-
Starting point is 01:16:14 And you're saying Umar is? He has three world champions they train. Three. But guess what? Guess what? I think Umar and Umar wrestling-wise are going to cancel each other out, and now we're left with striking. That's what I'm saying. And same height pretty much, it's a little bit different.
Starting point is 01:16:28 It's gonna be, and I think now, what's the X factor? It's gonna be a lot tougher fight than you think. For, well, cause Murab's a monster. Of course, anybody fights can be bad. This is what else you're leaving out. What happens in the fifth round when Murab has the best cardio we've ever seen? I haven't seen Umar, his cardio is not in question either.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Right? Again, what fight do you see where you represent? One fight. You have one sample size. That's so significant. No it's not. Because he's not going against a wrestler. But Corey, you want to talk about a guy who was such a pain in the ass for Umar.
Starting point is 01:17:02 That doesn't matter. Nothing harder than wrestling. Yeah, but Corey was wrestling with him they spent a lot of time again your sample sizes one fight going his cardio is fantastic and one when you got the number it's not though cuz Rob has 11 we cannot name off against four world champions with great cardio and he beat all of them I understand but you're going off one fight I understand so so so he's that not weird do you though no No, it's not because...
Starting point is 01:17:25 Eleven, we have eleven sample size. Umar's wrestling is going to be just as tough as Marab's. So I think they're gonna see... According to when he beat Corey Sandhagen. According to all his fights, dude. That's your sample size. Again, what fight are you regarding? You watch one fight?
Starting point is 01:17:39 I didn't just watch one fight. You're full of shit, you told me that. No, I've watched a bunch of his fights. Umar. Oh, come on. What do you mean? I've watched, I don't know the names, I've watched his fight. I've watched him fight. I watched. You're full of shit, you told me that. No, I've watched a bunch of his fights. Umar. Oh, come on. What do you mean? I've watched, I don't know the names, I've watched his fight.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I've watched him fight. I've watched on YouTube Umar fight. Umar's wrestling is ridiculous. It's good. It's not good, it's ridiculous. It's good. And his, and not only is his wrestling good, his gas tank is without question.
Starting point is 01:17:59 And then. You think his gas tank's as good as Umar's? And then he's front kicking you, he's kicking your legs, he's punching you. His striking is high level Muay Thai shit. High level. Right? Way higher.
Starting point is 01:18:10 So you'd agree that Umar's striking is way higher than Murab's. So with sugars though? And we saw how that worked out. Yes. Wait, Hon, you think Umar's striking is better than sugar's? I think Umar's striking is definitely as good as sugar's without question. I think Umar's striking is as good as anybody's I seen I think it's course and Higgins it's as good as Cori Sannich okay now maybe okay maybe I
Starting point is 01:18:31 haven't seen a fight anybody who can dislike two plus two six okay but he beat the fucking he beat he beat Cori Sannich all day do you think they're gonna start calling the rear naked choke the diddy no striking too that's a huge endorsement. Okay. Right, but you gotta give it up. I'm going based off 11 case studies of Marab. I'm sorry? Was Corey three round or five round?
Starting point is 01:18:52 Five. Yeah, five round. I mean five round. Five round. It's four of the right titles. It was five. It was five. Title eliminated.
Starting point is 01:19:00 That's significant. Put, like, that should be a big enough endorsement. And he came up from what was his ranking 13? No, like, you know, he was all the way down there and there's a reason they bumped him all the way up I got a fighting question for you guys. Why wouldn't they go? Oh, he's the Undisputed champion and I was pretty fucking disputed a lot of disputes over this Like what are you talking about? You're right. I don't know why you're going bad on Umar It's the same thing the entire fan base does they jump on a guy and I was going nobody's jumping on
Starting point is 01:19:32 I'm not sure you're all over no. I've been talking about Umar. I've been talking about Umar for about a year now I have I have because you're talking about his brother or his brother's a monster Umar is a monster I'm saying I can't wait. Okay. Those guys were talking about. I can't wait. Okay. Those guys were talking about. My whole thing is, name your favorite five Umars. I'm not jumping on him. Name your favorite five Umars.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I'm not jumping on him. Beside Corey Sanhagen. I'm not jumping on him. He's undefeated. He's never lost. I know. What's your favorite fight from. That's significant. What was your favorite fight in my court?
Starting point is 01:19:59 He and his brother are totally undefeated. For sure. And not only that. Hey, what was your favorite fight outside Corey Sanhagen? All of them. I've watched a whole bunch of them. There you go. All of them. Yeah, I love all of them. 135. what was your favorite fight outside Corey Sanhagen? All of them. I've watched a whole bunch of them. Yeah, I love all of them. 135.
Starting point is 01:20:07 What's your favorite Malcolm- They've been talking about- The Lab World book, all of them. Wait a minute. They've been talking about Nerman Gimenoff, the Nerman Gimenoff brothers. They've been talking about him for two years. I know, you've been all over it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Since day one. But I have. I've been- Okay. You're saying I only knew about Umar. I was talking to you about Umar. What did I say to you? How long ago? Well, you can probably look at it. I mean months ago months ago where I was like you're gonna see Umar
Starting point is 01:20:30 No, I'm gonna get him out off be a champion. I said that at 31 said that that's what I'm saying I know it's not a mistake Said this guy doesn't lose he's got he's all everyone I go what's your favorite umar fight? We were so impressed outside Cory Sanhagen Watching that guy watching that guy strike and wrestle and beat everybody is all I need Do I need to know their Russian names to tell you that no the UFC fighters? They compete against so you know how he's gonna compete against morale So what you're saying is that we haven't seen him fight anybody in the top five
Starting point is 01:21:05 Besides Corey Sandhagen hundred percent. You know, you haven't seen him fight. You haven't seen him fight personally For long maybe some clips on YouTube more than Corey Sandhagen's what I'm saying. I've watched his fights But you can't name who he fought. I don't remember the names But hey, but you didn't though dog. What do you mean? You didn't watch UFC fucking Noches. And you're watching Umar's history fights? When I started hearing about Umar, I looked at his brother and I looked at his brother and him and I went, who are these guys? And I saw these guys kicking and punching.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And so you sat down and watched all six of his UFC fights on UFC Fight Pass? I watched, no I watched a lot of his fights. I watched his fights before he was in UFC and I watched his fights when he was in UFC. On Fight Pass? No, I watched him lot of his fights. I watched his fights before he was in the UFC and I watched his fights when he was in the UFC. On FightPass? No, I watched them on YouTube. I watched them on another thing called M- Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:51 So, you know, you're saying- I'm talking bullshit. I think you watched some of it. I don't think you watched all his fights. Did I watch every single one of Umar's fights? No. There's a reason I was mentioning Umar. Umar-
Starting point is 01:22:03 Everyone was though, B. you don't get a fucking But that's here it for that but what I'm saying is that there is that's an educated when you say Umar is gonna be a champion I'm speaking from an educated point of view. I'm not saying it as a fan Who only watched one fight and got excited? That's not what I'm doing You're gonna find other people who are offended right now because everyone's fine But so I don't understand your argument. You're saying I'm saying it because I saw him being important. It's crazy to say Umar is going to steamroll Marab.
Starting point is 01:22:32 It's not crazy to say. I didn't say steamroll. I didn't say steamroll. Don't get too attached to Marab being a championship because your money should be on Umar for this fight. Yeah and you say that striking is way better, his wrestling is way better and I say what about his cardio? Striking is better and his wrestling is at least as good,
Starting point is 01:22:45 from what I've seen. Yeah, that's fair. But, okay, so why are you giving me a hard time for saying that Umar, you're going, ah, this is what all the fans say, and you're saying. No, because I know you, and I know you haven't watched all his fights, that's all I'm saying, and I'm saying that's all good.
Starting point is 01:22:58 No, it's not all good, because I've watched a ton of his fights. That's bullshit. When? When, dude? When I was talking about him three months ago before he beat Corey Sanhagen. All right, then I'm wrong. You watch tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:23:08 I was talking about Umar. I've been talking about Umar for four months, five months when I started hearing about it and I was like, who this Nurmagomedov guy? Because I heard somebody say the best 135 pounder on the planet right now is Umar Nurmagomedov. And I went, huh? Oh, his cousin? And so I went down that rabbit hole. You know why? Because I'm on the road with time to spare. I watch that. I
Starting point is 01:23:28 believe you. Yeah, but that's all I'm saying. All right. So that doesn't mean... Then we'll bet. Let's just stop all this. We're arguing stupid shit. Then just bet on it. Oh, I'd love to. Let's bet on it. On the Marab? Yep. Umar? Money. Now, now hold on. I'd like to get my money back. Yeah. Now, now hold on. He's striking so good, the bet has to be he knocks him out. I never took that bet. No, now hold on, his striking's so good, the bet has to be he knocks him out. I never took that bet. No, I'm just offering you the bet. I'm saying you're saying his striking's so good.
Starting point is 01:23:50 No, I'm saying he's gonna take the bell. That's what I'm saying. But put your money, his striking's just as good if not better than Sugar's, so let's bet, it's up two to one that he has to knock him out. So then he'll knock him out. His striking is as good as anybody's in the UFC's. That's so stupid, so then he'll knock them out. So then he'll knock them out. His striking is as good as anybody's in UFC's. That's so stupid, so then he'll knock them out.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Well he won the last two by decision, the last three out of four by decision. Those guys are smaller, it's harder to bet on smaller guys knocking somebody out. He's only knocked a few people out. He only has one knock. At 35 that's typical. It's harder to knock people out. So that'd be a shit bet. They don't have the kind of power to do that.
Starting point is 01:24:26 But he will pepper the shit out of you and he'll win fights. I think he's a bitch. Look at his record. It's so crazy. I think he sucks. Look at his record. Now again, he's fought guys I don't know, most people don't know,
Starting point is 01:24:39 because it's all Russian dudes and all that. He hasn't had any really tough tests. All right. I mean. Who? I don't know these guys. Sergey Morozov. It's fair.
Starting point is 01:24:52 He's not battle tested. All I'm saying is he's not battle tested. He's battle tested, but he's not battle tested with the top guys. You're not battle tested unless you're UFC battle tested. There's battle tested and you're fighting in Russia doing your shit, then there's UFC tip of the spear battle tested. Yep. Morob is fucking battle tested and you're fighting Russia doing your shit. Then there's UFC tip of the spear battle tested. Yeah, Rob is Fucking battle tested. He's a bad motherfucker. Not as bad as Jake Paul. I Know
Starting point is 01:25:15 Jake Paul can fight. Can you believe Jake Paul and Mike Tyson are still fighting? That's great. That's a real thing No, nobody just nobody wants it gonna happen. Yeah, they just had a press conference another one Yeah, but it's just taking forever. But nobody wants it. Is it going to happen though? They just had a press conference. Another one. And I love Jake. Jake's my boy. Let me guess. Or let me just explain how the world works. Netflix decides what people want.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Netflix just tells people what they want. No one wants this fight and it's just like, it will happen. But even like Jake posted something like they're at the Dallas Cowboys game, like posted like a video of it and has like, you know, Jake has, I don't know, 42 million followers, it had like 100 likes. Like no one's like, oh dude, I can't wait for that. You're gonna find another old guy. I don't get the upside.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I don't understand why you're doing it. Netflix just will tell us what we wanna watch, and then we will. Well, do you still think it's bullshit, or do you think it's gonna happen? I think it happens. I call bullshit. I mean it's gonna be an exit malarkey going on. All right. I got a piece so bad Let's talk about your wiener Brian. I go I was at the gas station. I took a bunch of those pills Oh, no, dude. I know do you crazy side effects? I had put in a door jam and slam it, bro
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Starting point is 01:27:31 No cuz he said he felt way better after he stopped drinking my life's gotten way better Yeah, I think you said you stopped for a second stuff like a couple of you stop for a couple days She's an up hard liquor. Yeah Drinking chins always got alcohol. I an alcohol. Hard liquor. Hard liquor. Do you want to stop? Hard liquor but also drinking. Chin's always got alcohol in his system. I enjoy alcohol. You have a good life, so that's why it's hard to stop. When you're like, life is good. I think you'd be so much better off stopping, Chin.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Like stopping completely? I stopped completely. My life got exceptionally better. You stopped? I haven't had a drink in a year. As an old guy, can I say something? Not a year. I haven't since, when's the last time we did a companion here?
Starting point is 01:28:04 Nah, he stopped. I know, but I'm only 11 months, and I think you had a whiskey, can I say something? Not a year. I've been since, when's the last time we did a- Nah, he stopped. A companion here. I know, but I'm only 11 months and I think you had a whiskey like when I was on here. No. No. It wasn't since the Rampage Fight Companion. I don't even know if you went to that night.
Starting point is 01:28:14 But you feel better. Either way, you only did like a little bit if we did a Fight Companion, but still. Even then, I mean, yeah. That's great. I'd say, Chin, as an old guy, your drinking is going to stop you before if you don't stop it eventually So that's kind of what happens with any kind of thing that we love that's sort of an addiction
Starting point is 01:28:32 It and everybody has food sex whatever I just I just don't stop you even with that You know, I don't think you're in dire whatever but I do think It's just it's not gonna bring any value like you're aged in. Like sometimes to me I just feel like we gotta grow the fuck up a little bit. Yeah, 100%. No, that's how I feel. Yeah, I know it's fun.
Starting point is 01:28:52 I know it's fun. So like all the exterior things, my skin's better, my hair's better, my dick works again, like all the- You look better, like your face is skinnier. I feel better. Yeah, I'll wake up and I'm like, oh yeah, my face isn't all puffy and shit, I don't feel and also look now you're doing jujitsu
Starting point is 01:29:09 Like yeah, just get more shit more time like I wake up at 5 a.m And there's like I'm ready to fucking go Yeah, all my relationships like the comic clubs are like you're so much better now that you don't drink and I go Oh, was it a problem? They go no, no, no, like they did they were like, yeah No, we loved having you here and it was great it's just you're a lot more sharp and you're a lot more professional. And they're noticing in a way that you don't have to villainize old Jeff or your old self and be like, I had a problem and it's so dramatic.
Starting point is 01:29:38 It doesn't have to be like that. But just everything is infinitely better since I've stopped. That's a- Yeah, okay. I'm telling you I've changed my life in all aspects. Every single aspect got better. Let me ask you this. Jim, it's like trying to, what are you gonna replace it with?
Starting point is 01:29:53 And you're very attached to the feeling it gives you. No, time is 100% the biggest thing. Working out. Yeah, you'll get so much time back. Yeah, but I mean, so when I write, when I do music stuff, I honestly cannot channel the lyrics as well as when I'm having wine or a beer or something.
Starting point is 01:30:08 So my comedy's gotten exponentially better also. That's what's crazy. It might be a crutch though, because when's the last time you tried writing? It's a crutch. We're almost done with an album. What you're saying is not true. No, but I'm saying, do you think you can do it right?
Starting point is 01:30:19 It is true. It may feel that way, but. I take notes after drinking, right? I'll take notes of writing, and I'm like, how the fuck did I come up with this? How much are you drinking? Yeah. It might, I don't get drunk. It might shut off the heart of your brain.
Starting point is 01:30:30 No, but it's like, yeah, but I do like to sip. But also if you tell yourself that, Jen, yeah, that's going to be the fact. I mean, that's, that's what I've seen so far. I guarantee you could figure it out if you weren't drunk. Well, I used to think that I was more creative with whiskey. I would say when I'm trying to organize, I would really believe this because I read it somewhere, that like if I was trying to organize my material in my bits, I would have coffee and sit down. But if I was trying to like think of something that's funny, I'd be with my buddies and we'd be drinking.
Starting point is 01:30:57 But the truth is, it's not the drinking, it's the hanging with my buddies or having like a conversation, like the environment. Because I would still be drinking every goddamn day if I couldn't still go to bars, couldn't still watch my sports, couldn't still hang with my boys and do all this stuff. So once I learned that I could do all that stuff and not drink, I was like, I'm in on this not drinking thing. Because you can still do all those things.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Yeah. Thank you very much, Jeff. That's very, very powerful. Yeah, try it. You'll be so happy you did. It's like your best self is waiting for you You know, I don't know anybody's ever drunk a lot and their best self came out, you know I'm not saying you can't handle it. You can be a high functioning alcoholic and I know I've known I was very high
Starting point is 01:31:35 I know I think I was to me. I'm I feel like I was like or Jeff was like my same page Yeah, but very high functioning. But also like imagine being more productive, but maybe imagine being more productive than you already are. Like you're getting so much shit done. But Jeff, think like, just, and I love seeing it, like look how much better your career has gotten. Yeah, it's been much better.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Like once he stopped, like Jeff's everywhere, man. Like your TikTok, your Instagram, like everything's blown up. And to me it's always been like, I've had this guy on the street, I'm like, I don't get it, because I see you do stuff, I'm like, how is Jeff not a household man? He's so fucking funny. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:32:12 You know I love you. It means a lot to me. I'm like, I don't understand. I said it. And then you stop drinking. Yeah. And then it started to happen. I see you on social media, I'm like, god damn, this thing's getting a lot of views.
Starting point is 01:32:22 You post another one, like, holy shit, this thing's getting a lot of views. You're going to be huge. Thanks, shit. Yeah, you're gonna be holy and that's Yeah, cuz you're a professional well It's like and I think like all those little things cuz I'm sure that we're similar in the way that like you feel good at The end of the day like oh I checked all those things off I got this much done now not drinking like you're gonna get double that done you got and you got more time you don't feel Shitty waking up this might sound weird and because I have kids too, like I go to bed, I can't wait to wake the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:32:47 I go to bed at nine a.m., or eight thirty a.m., I have butterflies going to bed, because I can see my kids, I can't wait to go to the gym, I can't wait to come in here, I can't wait to leave here, go to Tiger's Baseball for three hours, like my life's fucking awesome. Yeah, it's way better. I don't drink, I don't do any of that shit.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I think, Chin, one last thing on it. That's good to hear, man. Is alcohol can make you feel like it's all good. And alcohol can make you feel like there is no problem here. And there isn't, but there is. Like ultimately, I'm telling you, when I say it's gonna stop you, I'm not talking about death.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I know what you're saying. I'm talking about just, your life will not be what it could be and that's- But also when I was drinking at my heaviest and I had a problem. Think how much chaos I had in my life. Yes. I was on the road.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I had this and this. Pull me, I was doing 17 different shows. Not connected to anything. Nothing. I was spiraling out of control trying to get everything cause I, and I wasn't even sober. The whole I'm drinking, I'm getting drunk on the shows. Yeah. Remember people make fun of me of you drink at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Like yep drinking here here here every shot do three chosen day hammered when I get home Oh, so they say like alcohol doesn't make you braver. It just makes you not care about the consequences, right? So it's like so many times. I would just like fire off something I don't give a shit like that's how I feel about the subject or I'll just text this chick that I don't even really like That much and then I'd wake up the next day like you idiot. It's not you I can't believe I said that I can't believe I texted that I would have never done those things like if I if I wasn't Six whiskies deep at the chimney's we I'm a better dad I'm better person better friend better employee better boss like it just it was out of control man. Also
Starting point is 01:34:25 it's just a little weird one that I probably shouldn't say on camera but you can also use it if you stop drinking like for like some sort of past relationship that was there you can be like hey I do want to just say like sorry I was drinking a lot but and then they go oh that's nice that they admitted that like like it does fix those kind of things like man, man, I really burned that bridge being a drunk asshole at that place, they're gonna see this as growth and they're gonna go, oh, well that's nice. Because it is true, you can put it on the alcohol.
Starting point is 01:34:54 I did a lot of things because of the alcohol. My thing's a little different because I'm still a nice person regardless. I'm more relaxed when I drink. That's why I think you don't need to drink. You're one of the few guys, like your personality is great, whether you're drunk, not drunk. You know what I'm saying, when you're drinking, you're like, drunk's triggering word for you, so that's a red flag. But anyway, so, but when you don't need it to have a good time.
Starting point is 01:35:15 No, I don't use it for a good time. I can't even tell when you're drinking. Alright, so here's another one. I know I'm really harping on this shit. But like I started to believe, or not started, my entire life I kind of believed that it's cool to be that. Like society or social media or whatever you want, it's a reality, really glorifies it. They make it seem like Tom Waits is the coolest guy
Starting point is 01:35:41 in the world, he's got boots and he's at a bar with the whiskey and he's about to punch a guy out. All the cowboys I love are drunks. We never, I know, that's the thing. We should be talking about how it's okay to have your shit together. It's okay, I don't know why we glamorize a comic book on stage, she'd be like,
Starting point is 01:36:00 so I was smoking weed and then the whole crowd claps. We should be talking about how a lot of my friends shouldn't smoke weed. They're fucking losers One of the reasons I saw dude, I really didn't drink at all. I started doing stand-up Yeah, and Rogan before I was at the time so I never forget he goes you seem nervous have a shot with me I'm like, yeah, I had shot had a good set like guess I'm gonna start drinking I need it for comedy and I gotta be dark and emo whatever so I started drinking a ton Yeah, that was my identity doing that and it seems cool. Everyone makes it seem like it's so cool and it's okay I don't want to villainize drinking or drugs, but I do want to say like it's it's okay to like be worse
Starting point is 01:36:37 You know what? I like when people are nice. I like when someone's professional like when someone's kind when you're on the road drunk people I'm so allergic to drunk. I like when I when someone's sharp and they're good at their job I bet I can text him what you know I'm up so fucking early There's a few peeps few amount of people on my hand I could text at 4m like what's up, dude? Yeah, they're lines like me. They're up to doing shit at these coffee shops and barber shops and shit I've been putting these stickers up to say like so bright is cool because they have like all this drug stickers all these weed companies gummy companies and they got all the Jack Daniels and all that stuff and I'm like putting these stickers up that say like sobriety is cool. Because they have like all this drug stickers, all these weed companies, gummy companies,
Starting point is 01:37:07 and they got all the Jack Daniels and all that stuff. And I'm like, you know, it's okay to also, it's pretty cool to have your shit together too. Like it's okay to like be sober. Like it's not gonna affect your music. It's not gonna ruin the art. I say what does help your art proven, or like a lot of great books were written on nicotine.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Oh yeah. And like a lot of great books were written on nicotine. Oh yeah. And songs a lot. Nevermind. Different thing. Yeah, but it's another substance. Cigarettes are bad, but I mean, I can't say that a lot of great writers, but no. Well, outside of AA is just like,
Starting point is 01:37:38 one time I had a girl come up to me after the conversation, she goes, you were talking about being sober and you're out here having a cigar. And I was like, have you ever been to a Just like chain smoking cigarettes and drinking black coffee while they're talking about though. They haven't seen their kids for years Yeah, so it's like if they can't lump it all is the same and then where you at the point now we're Like alcohol you not even like do you still miss it? Yeah it rears its
Starting point is 01:38:06 head sometimes but it's very different level. I'm now like you know some with the baseball dads a lot yeah so after the end like oh let's get a beer I'm like oh oh interesting. Oh I feel like that like I don't want that lifestyle back and I got I used to always say people go you seem fine and I go yeah you weren't with me in the morning. Like between my ears, I would wake up and be like, like I'd have to coach myself that my life is okay. And I've got a great life.
Starting point is 01:38:33 What would you do? How much were you drinking? Uh, I was drinking about a bottle of whiskey, like one of those big ones a night, a night, and it started that, that pattern started during COVID cause it was just so much time. I was about a bottle of tiger thick every single night. Cause you're a big guy. I'm a big guy and the tolerance, your tolerance gets so high.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And we were watching, you know, fucking, um, we're watching Yellowstone. I'd wear a cowboy hat and I thought it was fun to get drunk. And my wife wouldn't drink. And then she was like, Kate, like probably a month went by. She goes, Hey, you know, I've drank a bottle every night? Yeah, same. And I was like, yeah, but isn't it fun? She goes, for you?
Starting point is 01:39:09 You're having fun, I'm not. I went, oh, fuck. And so I was like, oh, I won't do it at home. I'll only do it at the studio when I'm on the road. And then I'm like, I gotta get my drinks, and then I'm like. I love this for you, this makes me happy. Then I'm on the road, getting drunk, all doing my thing, and going on stage, and then...
Starting point is 01:39:25 You can handle it too, cause you're big. I can handle it, but I can't, but I'm like, you know what, I can't. You can't, nobody can. And also, why? Nobody can, you think you can. What's the point? We like you, we don't, it's just useless.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Nothing, unless you, you know, want to. No, I don't need it. I'm an outgoing person, like I don't need it for anything. Yeah, yeah, I just made all my worst decisions drinking. But also like, in the the mornings, I would like, because it's a real chemical imbalance, I'd wake up and just be sad. And I'm like, I have no reason to be sad.
Starting point is 01:39:52 And I'm just like, so that has to be what the alcohol is doing. And this is so good for you, Jeff. You're getting older. Wait till you have kids, man. You're going to be such a good dad, because you've gone through this expansion, disciplined dude, and you're a good person. You need to have kids, because we need more Jeff's in this world
Starting point is 01:40:06 Oh, thanks and for my kiddos. It's like yeah, I got sober for them. Yes, and it's like I gotta be on my shit, dude Yeah, the way look at me like superman is a superman was always superman's not sleeping in like my kids They know me now. They know me now before they get up, dude. I've been up for three hours. I went to the gym I ran three miles. I come back. What's up, dude? Yeah, I go in the room every morning with my shirt off like this. I go What's up? What are you guys doing? Are you just waking up? You just waking up lazy? But can we feel like you go ahead and feel them good soak it in I love that see something like speak up Every morning every morning. Yeah, that's great. That's the Love that I didn't know you're doing that
Starting point is 01:40:43 That's like dad's a beast and then they really saw it when there's some dude tried come for my wife and kids and I was Up the street. Yeah, and then I pulled up and fucking threatened the guy and they're like dad's Batman Damn right see kids tomorrow No, I love that. Yeah Yeah, anyways, I just think it'll change your life in a good way. I appreciate it. I wish you would give it a shot, Chin. Cause I'll give it a shot for more than two weeks, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:09 No, no. A shot means three months, big dog. A shot of giving a real shot after three months. If you're like, oh man, I'm just not the same. Alright, you gave it a shot. I guarantee you at three months, I'm like, dude, I'm kind of fucking feeling good. I'm on my shit, man. Well, it's easy to be like in a ditch be like, stop being drinking, it helped my life.
Starting point is 01:41:26 But you should know that even if your life is fantastic, it just gives it that more of a bump, better. When you don't drink. Yeah, but not drinking. Because I guess even if the guy's homeless and he's always, and then I gave up drinking, and now I'm doing better, that's a better story or whatever. But my life was already pretty great.
Starting point is 01:41:42 You got to get to the why. You got to come up with why, Chin. Because you're so talented Chin like grab the fucking lice by the fucking horns dude. You don't want to be compromised when you grab that fucking bull by the horns. You want to be fucking strong as can be because the fucking ride dude. You could make the argument sometimes we make like human beings do weird things like they don't want to Take responsibility for being as good as they could be so they'll drink It's a good excuse I was gonna say where it rears its head is like I'll be at like a
Starting point is 01:42:13 Dodgers game and a guy will walk by me with a cold beer and I like that's when I like just have this thought like Oh, that would that's that looks pretty good right here was beer your thing, too Yeah, just the drinking culture is really culture. That's yeah, especially at baseball games. I think the kid was baseball game. I'll see Yeah, but in the now I just do it for the kids like dad You're not drinking on like I got shit to do man, right? I love that. Yeah, I don't see it I don't think that poison man. Love it. And I go who do you like there with Tom Brady? Oh, he don't drink. No, she like LeBron. He didn't drink. Well, she's like who else Juan Soto doesn't drink He might Donald Trump doesn't drink. No
Starting point is 01:42:46 You didn't work out don't you so many beats in your heart? You can you can eat if you don't drink your body's got a battery in it. You'll use so many beats I love that Mike you're right What do you get to all right? Let's end on this Vince McMahon trailer and on this one, whatever you want. So the headline is trailer for Vince McMahon Netflix documentary has been released. Here's my question. A lot of these docs, the guys that they're doing the docs on, they're executive producers. I don't know if that's true for this.
Starting point is 01:43:15 So they can decide what stays in, what stays out. Oh wow. They can control the narrative. So it can be like a rah rah story. Right. Or like in Tiger King, homeboy the gay dude fucking the Tigers whatever he didn't have control of that you know and it royally fucked him he ended up in prison I don't think that Vince is the EP we should
Starting point is 01:43:32 look we should check says Bill Simmons is the EP for this he also did Tiger King I don't think it's involved at all in this I saw I watched I see I but no one you know Vince McMahon he's such a control freak I know I watched I see I but no one you know Vince McMahon. He's such a control freak. I know I would highly doubt Well, that's I don't I would highly doubt Vince McMahon would sign on for this that having zero creative control at all wrestling There's a great and then look who else is in it all everybody's in it Sold them out. That's why we just can't play it on here. I like them. I like Vince too, but he's a hate We just can't play it on here. I like him. I like Vince too.
Starting point is 01:44:04 He's an idiot. Here's the thing too with Vince McMahon, we all love UFC. There's no UFC without WWE. So Dana White's number one, even more so than Trump, his number one North Star, his unicorn is Vince McMahon. So every move you've seen the UFC made, WWE did it 10 years before. It's the same big time. Vince Mcmahon helps them out. It's meaning like he gives them advice and stuff. Doesn't fund anything. But all I'm
Starting point is 01:44:35 saying is everyone's like Dana this, Dana that, all good and he deserves his flowers. Vince Mcmahon did it all way before and is way tougher.. Vince sent the blueprint for Dana to be successful. Everything he's doing is Vince McMahon. The cool thing about Vince is that he's always just done whatever he wants. I hate that everyone's turned on him because it reminds me of the George Lucas thing. George Lucas ruins Star Wars. Bitch, there is no Star Wars without George Lucas. Your little C3PO princess Leia, both that, he did that.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Yeah. And that is Vince. Vince got a little too old and he got kind of set in his ways. Started shitting on girls, whatever. Well, so when young wrestlers would be like, I want to try this. He'd be like, we don't do it that way. We've done it this way. So he was kind of like stuck in this old formula, which made all the modern wrestling fans be
Starting point is 01:45:23 like Triple H is the best and we got to get Vince out of there and I get all that. But like we shouldn't forget that he created this thing we all love. Yes. Yeah. Pisionary. Yeah. There's one good scene in the doc. I saw the first six episodes before they did the re-edit because he got cancelled twice.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Since I haven't seen the new cancelling that they've added. Oh is it out now? It's out. Well it's coming out but now they've added episodes since I've seen it. But there's this one part where Vince is like, they're like, are you really the way you're portrayed? And it's like, he's like, no, this is a character. It's it's me turned up 10 levels. I'm not really like that all the time. This is this is a character, if you will.
Starting point is 01:46:03 And then they just show every whole go go. That's really how he is. The rock is like, that's how he really is. They're like 40 wrestlers in ruggles. That's me. That's me. Like it's just hilarious. The edit. Yeah. He's intense. But also, also, you know, anyone to take some to that level. Yeah, man, there's gonna be some demons. He's gonna have some demons. He's gonna be, he's gonna have a bad boy side. And that's actually what is the knock on him.. Is the knock on him, he's a pervert though? Was he just doing a lot of? He's a power hungry guy. So like any of like he's-
Starting point is 01:46:29 You wouldn't wanna be a female wrestler back in the day. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But also, yeah. Here's the thing that they always talk about these men of power. Let's quickly address this before you guys make me leave. They'll always say like, oh, these guys abused their power.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Oh, P didn't use his power on these girls making them dance. He, oh Vince was inappropriate with the girls that worked under him. And there's this power structure, everyone needs to be concerned. Do you know that that power structure has nothing to do with gender? Mitzi Short used to make all these cute boy comics fuck her all the time if they wanted to get past. Like there's plenty of, like, when women, it's just a power problem. You start getting all that, you go,
Starting point is 01:47:08 alright, I'm daddy now. Now, like, yeah. You think Ellen's awesome? No. You think Oprah's a fun time to hang out with? No way. Who else you wanna name? It's just a power thing.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Once you get that powerful, Hillary Clinton's just killing people left and right, no one says shit. Talk to Kamala Harris's staffers. She's had the biggest turnover, and you never hear that in this. She cannot hold on to staff. Dude, I had a conversation, I won't say who it is,
Starting point is 01:47:32 with one of the guys who used to be the head of Newsome's security. He's like, he's the worst. I believe that, yeah, for sure. He's just like, shit, man. Yeah. It's just part of it. Guy came to one of my shows,
Starting point is 01:47:42 and was like, dude. Like, told me all this shit, and he's like, but don't say anything. I won't say his name, he's like, he's just part of you know on my shows it was like dude. They get like told me all this shit He's like, but don't say anything. I Won't say his name is like he's awful Just like fucking peasants. Yeah, I believe it. It's just a power thing. Was that it? Did you have something good Sinaz? Um, you know, the only one other one I really had that I liked was you guys remember fire fest? Yes that whole documentary Mm-hmm. So Billy McFarland's out of jail
Starting point is 01:48:05 and he's doing another one. Who's out of jail? He got out of jail. Who's investing in that? That guy was such a scam artist. I don't know. Remember that one guy was like, if we need water, I was down to suck dick for water.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Yeah. Oh yeah, that guy was amazing. I need that kind of employee. That guy's the best. He's out looking at me, he looks great. He looks good. He looks great. They talk about these guys in the documentary
Starting point is 01:48:23 where they're like at one point, they shut all my bank accounts down and I didn't have any money and they were all like out to get me and I literally had $20 in my pocket. But then he's in like a $4 million loft. I'm like, how is, how did these people do this? Well, he's now, he looks great. He's 32, jail is good.
Starting point is 01:48:42 He's got a foot down, stopped drinking. Yeah, he got detox. He's got, you know, good he's 32, jail is good. He's got the house, Dr. Higgins. Yeah, he got detox. Yeah, he's got, you know, good hair. So he was sentenced to six years, he only had to do four, and he has to pay like a $26 million, like, what's it called, like, restitution? That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:48:55 It's gonna be tough to bounce back. But he's like, I really am confident that people are gonna wanna come to this. And it's like a tiny island off the coast of Mexico. He's delusional. But he won't announce who's there, like, there's nothing behind it. In that doc, he was like guilt, so they obviously talked about the Fire Fest, but they also like showed that he's done a scam like seven times. Yeah. Like that Fire Fest was just the most famous one, but he just constantly is scamming people.
Starting point is 01:49:20 And the funniest part, you remember that cheese like sandwich burger that went viral? He actually says we will be having cheese sandwiches at this one, but it will be the most expensive item on our menu. Hilarious. That means that all the other food is going to be shittier than cheese sandwiches. It's fantastic. Well, he's still kicking. Good for him. What a weird shot.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Jeff Die. Sober Jeff Die crushing it. Come see me. JeffDie.com. Those are all my dates. I'm doing Skank Fest in Vegas. Oh dude, we did it last year. It's such a good time.
Starting point is 01:49:48 This Low Love Beer in Pittsburgh is next week, but I might be canceling it. I'm not sure just because I don't know how ticket sales are and the guy's being a little squirrely but you know if you guys watch this and want to see me in Pittsburgh, go to that. But then Skank Fest is going to be awesome. My first Skank Fest ever. You have so much fun. Comedy loft in DC, go to Colorado Springs I'm pretty much everywhere so just go to JeffDow.com and I got a lot of dates. You're always on Fox, I love when you're on Fox. Yeah Godfeld's been good to me it's been awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:14 That's awesome. Guys this weekend Four Way in Indiana, Four Way in Indiana oh yeah yeah it's gonna be good. What's the club called? It's called Summit Comedy Club in Four Wayne, Indiana. It actually does well, it's a good club. Come by, I'll be there Friday, Saturday. Yep, it's gonna be good, so. Ice sealant is bad. Yeah, and then, yep, yep, yep. I'm excited, I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Ice sealant is bad. All right guys, love you, we're out.

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