The Fighter & The Kid - Jelly Roll | TFATK Ep. 981

Episode Date: April 5, 2024

Jelly Roll joins Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen and the guys talk Jelly's skyrocketing success in the last few years and how he's handling it, him being on American Idol, being greeted by Taylor Swift, winning multiple awards and being nominated for a Grammy, speaking in front of Congress, meeting Paul McCartney and Jon Bon Jovi, gambling with Dana White and much more! DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code FIGHTER Nugenix - Get a complimentary bottle of Nugenix Total T plus a bottle of Nugenix Thermo X FREE when you text FIGHTER to 231-231. True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and get up to 25% OFF @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER ! #trueclassicpod #sponsored JOYMODE - https://usejoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order Fieldcraft Survival - https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/fighter Use code: Fighter20 for 20% OFF Training and Product

We got a special one today, B. Who's that? I sent out a thick Jelly Bat signal. Did you get Jelly Roll? Grammy nominated Jelly Roll? Your boy Jelly Roll, who I talked to a lot, a lot, especially for the level of celebrity this man's at now. The man who's touched by God?

The man who is the most famous person in country music right now, who won the CMT for how many awards? He's up for a Grammy. Our boy blew up. He only does arenas now, but he still hasn't forgot about your boy. He's coming into the studio. Your boy is coming here in less than two minutes.

I'm excited. Now you can go see Jelly. He's all over, touring all over. All over. You can also see Brian Callan. I'm glad you mentioned this. Before we get to Jelly, where can we see Brian at?

Well, look, I mean, I'm gonna be, think Jelly's going to be over at Coachella or something April 19th and 20th. Stagecoach. Coachella's over, right old man? If you're not in Stagecoach, hey hey, don't call me dumbass now because I'm a little careful now. Now, because careful, because I was going to say Coachella's part of Stagecoach. No. Right, Chin? No. He said it, the only reason you're saying this is because it's like, he said it. It's like Coachella for Coachella is what I meant. It's like, stagecoach is the Coachella of country. It's what I meant. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right. I'm 57. Now here's the thing guys. If you want to see, I'm not going to sing, but you want to see comedy, Bray improv, a brand broad brand, California, April 19th and 20th, and then Bricktown comedy club, April 19th and 20th and then Brick Town Comedy Club April 26 and 27th Oklahoma City Get some Bray and brah Brian Callum dot-com for tickets And they're going fast and there he is jelly rolls in the studio. Let's do this big dog This is really the fight in the kid

This is really the fight in the kid Chin I go loud man. I've been seeing you as long as I've been seeing shops So seeing you makes me just as happy as seeing shop Your song What's it like dude, how long way to the top if you want to rock and roll boys that Bustle with the boys yo fucking on fire son when they drop is looking at him going I like your podcast yeah it's crazy you know when they had you on will text me he's like dude you remember when

you and Theo came and you're like telling us you gotta have jelly on you gotta do you brought me with you yeah you were like yo just take me over there you can meet him now. I was like, fuck. Yeah. I was telling you, man. Yeah. Now you're the biggest thing in music. I think it's fucking wild. I think, uh, the clip with me and bunny was the most, one of the most viral barstool clips, not even just busting with the boys ever on tick tock. Agree. Well, I don't, I didn't see that. You ready, Chen? Let's just start. What, what, uh, you know what I love about y'all? I didn't see that. You ready, Chen? Let's just start. Let's go. What, what, first of all. You know what I love about y'all?

I figured we were going. Yeah. I know, that's how we do. I want to thank you for, for not forgetting about us. Stop, dude. Get out of here. Jelly, Jelly's one of the only guys. I love him.

And we've been in the business a long time. Where, you know, guys get busy, they blow up, they get busy and we don't hear from them, but it's whatever. It's what it is, you get busy and we don't hear from them, but it's whatever it is you get busy Jelly I heard from jelly went after he won all his country music awards. He'll text me literally that night I'll hear from jelly. I mean literally the biggest like you're like what that is yet They anytime I'm in LA if I can't get with y'all I still hit shop like yo, I'm in LA I know you're not coming out of Calabasas motherfucker

Where the rest of LA is. You know what I'm saying? Every time. I hate Calabasas being a homebody. You can't get out. You can't, no matter what. I don't know what this says about me. Out of all the crazy shit you do, you know like your household name now,

out of all the crazy shit you do, nothing gets me more excited when I see you on American Idol. Oh! That's my shit. You wait till this, you know I'm doing a guest mentor this year. I'm aware. Dude.

You went to Hawaii, right? It was so awesome. It was the coolest experience and the talent. Have you seen, you've been watching this year? I don't miss it. It's my favorite show. I cry every Sunday. That kid from Alabama.

That kid from Alabama. The 15 year old? Where him and his mom were homeless? What? That dude can sing. Man, from his soul he sings, dude. How much of that is training and how much of that is just raw talent? That kid is raw talent.

That kid had no training. Completely untrained. Zero training. Dude, he's from a little town in Alabama, dude. Grew up homeless in a small podunk town. I mean, when I say a, like, as a Southerner, Alabama is already Alabama. Yeah. Imagine a small the biggest town in Alabama, right is country shit Yes, imagine a small town and out and his at his accent

Great and be his accent makes jelly rolls sound like a white girl from the valley. Yeah He's got the deepest so cuz what I want to I old enough to remember, like now when you see people sing, it's so obvious that they've been watching amazing singers and then they've trained the right way. So they've got these pipes, crazy pipes. But it's, you can tell that it's almost like they grew up watching the best of the best and you know how one generation

kind of mimics the next generation. It's like they just keep getting better and better it doesn't necessarily mean that the um their musicality is better it just means their voice is better you gotta watch American Idol right there's some kid like there's this girl on there from somewhere in Utah they have like tvs and shit and her family they because they're just not out in the world and they're not on tiktok and so they don't know how good she is yeah and they bring her and they're not on TikTok. So they don't know how good she is. Yeah. And they bring her and they're all like, man, I hope she makes it. Bro.

And like. So real. They have no frame of reference. Yeah, and then Brian's like, that's the best voice I've ever heard. And the mom's like, really? Because they've never left the house. They don't know.

Was it the best voice because it was unique or the best voice was just pipes? By powerhouses. Yeah, you hear this stuff, man. When the brother's like crying. I'm a unique guy too. Right. I am too. That's what you have something about like, it's a uniqueness. And this kid is that's why you'll like them. Yeah. But 15 bro. But he sounds like Merle Haggard. Wow. It's like Waylon Jennings.

It's Waylon Jennings. But he had to grow up because he had to be like the man of the house. Cause the mom, I think homeless drug addict, so he had to grow up fast. And you can see that at 15. You know what they say, maybe, they used to always say that the black jazz musicians, like Louis Armstrong and John Coltrane, because they grew up in the 40s, 50s, 60s,

they had no way to express themselves. You couldn't speak as a black man, in the South, certainly, you get in real trouble. So the only expression, the only way they could speak was through their horn. And sometimes I wonder if somebody's poor without a voice like that, maybe it informs their musicality.

When I hear you sing, like that fucking, what is that song I love so much, I listen to it all the time. Save Me? Yeah, man, dude. All I hear is emotion. Like, your voice is great, but you have that thing where it's like, it's just all feeling. Yes.

And you can't, that's just artistry. Yes, man, that's, and I felt it probably more than I've ever felt it singing at this, at the Heart Radio Awards Monday. Because we're in a room that doesn't know us, because we're from country music, so me and Laney are like, we look like we just got out of a deer stand compared to everybody there. It's like, SZA, Glowrilla, you know, people are like, sometimes out of a deer stand compared to everybody there. It's like is a Glorilla, you know people are like sometimes like your state Yeah sometimes country people like super country folk will be like jelly's not country music and then I come to like an LA thing or Do like the Grammys? Yeah, I do at heart radio awards and I was like you can't convince one motherfucker in this room

I'm not country, you know Grammys wild or what was crazy. See you Grammys. No dog No, no The coolest thing that happened to me at the whole Grammys was the way we were sitting, we were kind of like in this corner corner. We were there, but barely. Like the people behind us bought a ticket.

You know what I'm saying? Like we were like barely there. So we like the real celebrities were over here. Like that real A-list celebrities. And I was telling my wife, like I want to go over there and fraternize a little bit. But you know what I'm saying? I was like, I don't know if I can you know

I just I felt it up with some of those I was insecure and I sat and sure enough by like this third commercial break Taylor comes over and says hi Oh damn and I was like get the fuck out of here and she was so sweet and just poured into me and then Kelly Clarkson Comes and then Jay-z walks over and I'm like, yeah Welcome You get invited Clarkson comes and then Jay-Z walks over and I'm like, yo, we're welcome. I was like, this is it, dude. Do you get invited to a dinner party after that? I'm introducing myself, I'm like, I don't like, they don't know who else. I'm like, hey, my name's Jason Jelly Roll, I'm from Nashville. And they're like, man, that's why the fuck we're over here, dog. We love saving people. That's so cool. That's so cool. I was like, what? What did Taylor Swift say? She was just cool. She came, she's from right outside of Nashville called Hendersonville.

And my daughter went to school in Hendersonville. So we played in a park that she bought 20 years 15 years ago damn she's about yeah no Franklin's other side so this is north Franklin one city Brian knows yeah I know that's not really yeah they're both really nice yeah but uh that's so we talked about that she just came on something like I just want you to know we're cheering for you. SZA said the same thing to me about that. My thing with you, Jelly, it's like, we've known each other for a hot second.

It's like, even when you weren't at this level, when people meet you, I don't know who's not cheering for you. So I think now it's on a global scale. I'm like, yeah, bless you, bitch. He should have been an agent, because he picks, he can see talent about five years before it happens.

Before it's full blown. He saw it with Theo, sees it with you, sees it with so many people where he's just like, that guy's going to blow up. Yeah, no. Me and Berm were talking about this last night. Yeah. Literally. He would always, he'd always just be like that guy I'm telling you.

Talent scout dog? Even before Jelly was big, if you went to Nashville, you had to check in with Jelly. So he was a superstar before he was a superstar. Like some dude, I forget, I think I was like, we were going somewhere and I left my watch in your truck. I was like, man, my watch in your truck. They're like, don't worry about it. If anybody did anything, we'll have it back by tonight.

What? That's a true story. Some dude stole his truck, was gonna go take it to the chopping block and then found out it was Jelly's, returned it. This is a true story. Before the police found it. Yes. Like some kid got it and when he pulled up to the chop shop they were like that's Jelly Roll's truck you gotta take it back right now. That's called having long arms. It's called being the octopus. Nashville octopus. Bro you gotta go to Nashville with the Soho house. The city won't open. city wall brother so how's weird we started at that dive bar first

though yeah we went from the shitty dive bar to Soho wow it's like the diviest of dive while transition and then jelly brought all these shots there's only three of us i'm like who's this four who's this for who are all these four you just hand them out to everybody. Godfather. Yeah, bro. The King is here. It's gotta be worse now. It's gotta be crazy. Yeah, it's fun. It's really cool. We just had it happen at the Rainbow Room again Monday night.

We went there after we won that award. That's your spot. I love that place, man. It's just so dirty. It's just so my style. Is it becoming harder to write songs now just with all the distraction? Let's take a little break, buddy.

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Texting enrolls you into a recurring automated text message consent not required to purchase message and dates rate date data rates may apply number one doctor recommended brand by primary care physicians based on an independent survey conducted by IQ VIA 2022. No I'm actually man I'm actually probably it's probably getting easier Wow yeah cuz I'm like dude I probably wrote a hundred something songs last year most songs I've wrote in a year and forever. How do you write songs? Because you're less stressed? Yeah I was on the bus I probably wrote a hundred something songs last year most songs. I've wrote in a year and forever I was how do you write haven't how do you do it because you're less stress? Yeah, I was on the bus I had a lot I did you know a hundred dates last year or something I tore rock and roll style

So we'll do four or five shows a week And I was like you know I just got in a real rhythm of writing on the bus And I've been so much more open to collaborative writing where like I used to be really really very Private about my style now. It's like if they're like, hey, this guy is such and such, he wants to write with him. I'm like, send him. Kim and Sean. How do you guys write?

Do you guys start with a tune? You know what, the best way to describe it, I know sometimes people hate when you compare fields. But it's like, imagine y'all workshopping a joke backstage, right? Like you've got an idea, and you went out there and presented this idea to the people, and then you come back and the homies because I've seen this happen a lot. Yo, that was dope Let's punch it up. What about this and you're like, I didn't think of it Yeah, and I start watching a little mini workshop happen around a bit and it makes the best

Yeah, it starts coming. It starts adding every day like I'll massage it. I'll go I know it's an idea There's a whisper an idea and then I'll go for a walk and I'll keep thinking before I know it it becomes a song Right like cuz every bits a song in a way because it's like there's tempo. There's rhythm. There's an whisper of an idea and then I'll go for a walk and I'll keep thinking and before I know it it becomes A song right like cuz every bit is a song in a way because it's like there's tempo. There's rhythm There's an economy of words. Yes, you got the perfect amount of words trying to create a feeling. That's it There's a moment. You're looking for a moment. Oh, there's a crescendo. There's an up. There's the big moment It's all I compare them all the time. That's why I love comedy Yeah, that's why I have more comedian friends and I do musician friends. You know what I mean? It's like I understand that,

and the collaborative nature of it. It's also like boxing kind of, like you gotta go out and fight by yourself, but you can train with everybody. You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of, yeah. Best of the best, or this guy might be really good at this. Exactly, you can spar with this guy,

mits with this guy, work with this guy, and you know who's who, but you gotta go fight by yourself. But just like fighting fighting or even comedy, a lot of those guys, it's an ego thing and they don't wanna ask people for help or they think they know everything. And I feel like those guys have a certain ceiling. Because you're gonna need some collaborative effort.

For sure. But as Jelly was talking about touring, I saw, he posted, this dude was selling out arenas on a Tuesday night. Tuesday night. It's crazy. We're playing the garden, we sold the garden out, we're playing on a Tuesday night. It's crazy. We're playing the garden. We sold the garden out. We're playing on a Thursday.

Come on, bro. Thursday, bro. What? What? It's crazy, bro. You sold out the garden? Jesus Christ. We sold out the United Center on a Tuesday.

Oh my. He posted one thing and I touched on like on a Tuesday? This is fucking rude, dude. Dude, that's what you get when you're that talented. Rock and roll, dude. That's what you get when you're that tough. Rock and roll, dude. That's what you get when you're that tough. But you also grab, what I love is like when I see you doing all this stuff,

you're also grabbing it by the nuts. Because hopefully you have a 40 year career, you know what I'm saying? But get it, dog. For sure, if I only have a three year career, I'm gonna be okay. And be set. You know, so I really do think, I'm not a music guy,

I don't know much about music, but I I do know I know what authenticity is and I and I know like the difference between Somebody who's an artist and somebody who's you know, like people write songs and there are tricks and hooks And that's why like it's really interesting to me. Okay, so so when you hear something like I don't know What's that song like a pop song drop drops of Jupiter. When you first hear it, it's catchy, man. You're like, that shit's catchy. Damien, how about from 12 years ago? But just, the point is like, it's catchy. And you're like, oh, I like the song.

After about seven or eight times, you go, I never want to hear that fucking song again. And I think it's because- That shit slaps, though. It's not honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't mean to put them down. I'm just saying it just doesn't,

there's something about it where I feel like I'm being a little bit manipulated with the sound. When you're singing, you're telling a story. So I'm hearing about a human being. I don't know, man. It's, that is the, I don't know how to, but you can't measure the difference. I don't know how to quantify the difference,

but I know it when I hear it. You like his music, man. I know what it is. It's a feeling is what I say. Right? It's like certain music really evokes a different feeling. And any music that's ever made me really feel something, I can hear it. It never makes me feel any different.

Every time I hear it, I still get that little goose bump feeling. You know what I mean? Like Van Morrison, right? Like if you listen to his voice in a vacuum, it's not a great voice, but that motherfucker does something to you. You kind of remind me.

The greats are like that though. Willie, Waylon was probably the best singer of the highway, man. Johnny, even Johnny, Johnny has such a low, I mean he was a great voice, but he wasn't a quote unquote, in this generation they would not consider any of those. No, Springsteen? Dylan?

Springsteen, Dylan? Wow, I'd say Johnny Cash ain't getting a record deal right now. You know what, Springsteen. You know what I mean, yeah, Springsteen? Dylan? I'll tell you, Johnny Cash ain't gonna get a record deal right now. You know what, Springsteen. Johnny Cash ain't walking in to get a record deal if you didn't know who he was in today's world. Those vibes. He sure as fuck ain't going to Hollywood on American Idol. I'll tell you that right now. But that storytelling, it's just something about it made you feel something.

Like when you hear Folsom Prison, it's like there's something about it that, dude I was probably 18 before I realized he didn't shoot a guy in Reno. I believed it. You know what I'm saying? I was like how's this dude out making music? You know what I'm saying? When he did that sandwind now?

Wait, he didn't shoot a guy? Yeah, right. He shot a man in Reno. Yeah. Just to watch him die. Didn't you perform in a prison? Yeah. Didn't you go back to where you were in Costa Rica?

I went back to the jail I was in, and they let me do a full show. It was crazy. It was unreal. My dream is, and we've been talking about this behind the scenes, my dream is to do The Yard in San Quentin. That'd be sick. That'd be the first time it's happened since Cash. It'd be the first time it's happened since.

But you know, by the time. Are they open to it, or are they booked, or? Can I or no? We're working on it. OK, we're working on it. I'm allowed to say we're working on it. That means it's happening. Yeah, I you know, but I- Are they open to it or are they booked or? Can't are enough. We're working on it. Okay, we're working on it. I'm allowed to say we're working on it. That means it's happening. I'm allowed to say we're working on it.

That means it's happening. Who else they gonna bring in? You know what I'm saying? That's happening. I can't say that, but it is. We partner with Onsight and Miles Adcock and their company that does mental wellness stuff. And we'll go in and they'll do a thing

and then we'll come in behind them and do a show. Can you sell merch there, Brian? Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, I'd be a big hit. But what you really wanna sell and do a show. Can you sell merch there Brian? Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, I'd be a big deal. Fuck, what you really want to sell there is hot chips. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you want to make money sell coffee.

Yeah, little Debbie cakes and shit. Yeah, coffee. Fucking coffee, we'd get rich in there, dude. Snacks. Yeah, I'd get coffee. Your merch is all snacks. When you testified for Congress, that could have been in a movie and it would have been the culmination of the fucking movie.

It was so dramatic But so real and so good and every one of those fucking senators was just at attention It was like schools in session. I got their attention. Oh, bro. I'm about to talk to you about Dramatic, and it was just like I bro. It was so good. Did anybody what they do after you did that? Did they come up to you dude listen I Have a sermon man. I never It's funny how God works And I'm sure y'all experiences the things you like when you expect something in your career to do incredible it always just does okay

Yeah, it's the stuff that you don't even think about like I didn't know this was when I sat down I looked and I seen the c-span camera and at that moment I was like oh this isn't a private thing I'm this is like a thing like I'm on TV right now like I remember being a kid I remember C-Span like yo this is government this is free TV yeah I told them earlier I don't know what it is but when I'm on free TV I take it real serious yeah I know free TV might not be a thing anymore. Dude, when I was a kid, it got no bigger than being on free TV. Got no bigger. You know what I'm saying?

I'm like, I'm on free TV. And then I've never, I had no frame of reference for what was going to happen. I was prepared. I knew that I had a lot of information that I was trying to get out in five minutes. But what I wasn't prepared for was I thought I would get, you know, I thought, I don't know, I was hoping that this dude would have started. When I look at him, I'm like, you ever done one of these? He's like, oh yeah, every week I have to come talk about something.

That's what they do. I was like, all right, what about you? The lawyer guy was like, yeah, all the time, you know, I'm a do-da-da-da-da-da, and I was like, cool. And they go, all right, Mr. D. Ford, we're gonna start with you, and I'm like, fuck, I would have loved to have seen what I was supposed to have. Can I get the rhythm here? Yeah, let me see what the timing is. Let me touch the water now, good. That's when you realize you've been performing, you've been in front of audiences forever. And I knew, man, I went there, and this is real, my spirit that day was only to confront Congress in a way that was like, hey man,

I would like to believe that y'all don't know that 200 people are dying a day from this drug. Because I would like to believe you don't know that because I'd like to believe if you did know that the human in you would be doing everything you could to change that. So I'm just going to assume y'all don't know. And I'm just going to speak very sternly

about something I think y'all are ignorant to. You talk to him like we all want to talk to our politician. For sure. I think that's why it resonated with everybody. Yeah, it was real. Because we'd all love to get up there and stare at the politician like, what the fuck are you doing? Straight up ass. What would you say you do here? Yeah, it was real. We'd all love to get up there and stare at the politician like, what the fuck are you doing?

Straight up ass. What would you say you do here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But his voice was so grounded too. I like he goes, I know what I mean like like there's a town meeting like literally there's a town meeting is a serial killer all of them just go like this that's it I'm done thank you so much I can pass the bill and get the fuck out of it no they did nothing well I met all the senators came and talked to me after they were all nice but behind the scenes thing that was cool was when we sit down they're like, you know, this should be like an hour These things are like really fast

They just kind of brush right through them and I was like cool. No, I was like, I'm just I flew to DC for y'all Whatever, you know and I got in there and I was nervous because when I walked in I was like, yo This is a courthouse and they was like, this is not a courthouse. It's a sentence out I was like I've been to a fucking courthouse This is the ultimate courthouse walked into the room and I was like, this is a courtroom courthouse, it's a sentence house. I was like, I've been to a fucking courthouse. This is a courthouse. This is the ultimate courthouse. We walked into the room and I was like, this is a courtroom. They was like, no, this is where they have their hearings. I was like, like courtrooms, this is a fucking courtroom.

You could tell you were a little nervous. I was super nervous. I could tell you were a little nervous. Yeah, I was petrified, dude, my butt was puckered. You were more nervous there than when I saw you perform at whatever award show. I didn't see any nervous. My butt was puckered.

I was sitting down and I was just like, dude, what is happening here? You know what I mean? But they were so, but normally it's like when they sit down, it was three or four senators and they were like, I was like, is this all the senators that are coming? They were like, yeah, yeah, for sure. And then what happened was the C-SPAN feed was in everybody's office. And after I spoke, every senator on that committee came in, like all 30. It ended up being a three and a half hour hearing. Damn. Wow. For real, it was crazy.

And they thought it'd be an hour. They thought nobody would want to speak about it. I'd just say my piece and leave, but there was so much traction. You know what I mean? You should have just ended it with a song. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I should have just sung Save Me,

Bring the World Together. You know what I'm saying? Cease bad, right? Check this out. Do I get a stream for this? We got a guitar? The world is never the same. Dude, I gotta I gotta tell you how much I missed y'all man It feels home. Yeah, here's like it's cool

It's really glad it fucking work out of out of all the things man out all the stuff you're doing Is there was there ever a moment like holy shit? How do we get here man? So many dude, I don't even know where to start. All of them? Yeah, all of them. It's like, it's been, every time it happens, I'm like, well that's, there's no, you know, it can't get no bigger. And then it gets bigger. And then you're nominated for a Grammy.

You wake up and you just won New Artist of the Year at the Country Music Association Awards. There's three awards in country music. I've never talked about this. For fans that don't know, I wanna clear this clear. There's more than three, but three, the big three are the Country Music Television Awards which are this Sunday in Austin Texas. I'll be with our cowboy friends I'll be down there Monday. Kill Tony for sure already hit Hinchcliffe and then there's

the ACM's which is a very prestigious industry award it's American what is it the Academy of Country Music the Academy of Country Music which is like it's the black it's the Oscars of country music. Yeah it's a big deal. It's the black tie joint, it's the Garth Brooks hosted joint, it's a big deal. And then they got what they call the biggest night in country music which is the CMAs, the Country Music Association Awards. Love them. So I did the CMTs and I went three for three. I swept last year, it was unreal. It was fan voted. So I mean it was special for me and it was what a way to introduce me to Critical Mass

by letting my fans bring me there. You know what I mean? Like that's the rocket I rode in on. It felt great. And then we go to the ACNs, we weren't even nominated but they let us perform. And we debuted Save Me with Lainey Wilson. So it was like a moment,

I was like I don't know how this is gonna go. That went viral. And Lainey too, like both you and Laney were like, it couldn't do. We were just talking about that. And when you sing a song in front of all those people that you've grown up listening to, how nervous are you? One of my worst vocal performances ever was at the ACNs with Save Me because I was so nervous because Luke Combs, Stapleton, Dolly Parton and Garth Brooks were sitting in the three rows.

And I'm like, these are some of the greatest voices, and these are the people, and then Dolly and Garth, like I grew up on Dolly and Garth, dude. And I was just immediately rattled. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yo. Garth Brooks? Garth Brooks?

Garth Brooks? I gave Chris Gaines? Listen, I was so happy when I met him, I gave him a hug, and I picked him up when I get really excited I always do that I mean to and I kind of swung him a little bit so his little feet were shaking Garth is like, he thinks, well there wasn't much of an altercation Yeah, he just took it You know what I'm saying? He just went for the ride

The best part was it went crazy on the internet I felt so embarrassed but Garth was so the next time I see him he's such a good sport I go see his opening night in Vegas and he invites me back so the next time I see him he's such a good sport I go see his Open at night in Vegas and he invites me back after the show and I go to him and he comes in he goes give me a Hug big fella. I love it, but take it easy And he's still he's still crushing dude. He's still Stadium Garth man so many That was a moment Then I go to the CMAs and I win best new artist and I have that speech that goes viral and I'm and I'm I'm I'm doing the

Shop thing. I'm not on my phone. So I'm not even realizing I'm having like the most viral moment of my brow Right the best way to do it Yeah, and then I wake up the next morning and I was nominated for two Grammys and I was like no way and then We go to the Grammys and we come up short, but I was excited, you know being there for the win You can die. Yeah know what I mean? It's like, I can die tomorrow. I'm Grammy nominated forever now. That's how they'll, you know,

I'll never get introduced any other way. Also the Grammys aren't fan voted. No, no. Fan voted, that thing you win by a landslide. Yeah, for sure. Me or, yeah, for Noah too. Noah Conn, man, I thought he had it for the new artist. I'm glad Victoria got it because she's so talented.

Not me, man. I thought you should have got it. Yeah, I love you. Harry Connick. Do you know Harry Connick Jr.? Yeah, I never met him. The fuck you know Harry? So he was, he was, he had to perform for some, I think it was, I can't remember big, big awards, and Frank Sinatra's right there. And he was so fucking nervous. He was so nervous. He had to sing Summer Wind. So he had to sing Sinatra's song. So he starts and he forgets the fucking words. And he stops and he sees Sinatra go like this. No.

Like yes, Sinatra goes, oh geez. And he goes, oh, and he goes, sorry, ladies and gentlemen, I'm just so nervous right now. And he just acknowledged it. Yes, oh jeez. And he goes, oh, and he goes, sorry, ladies and gentlemen, I'm just so nervous right now. And he just acknowledged it. And then we're back, he sings it again. And he's done, he's just, he's messed up. He gets in the elevator with his wife. Sinatra comes on with his wife.

And they hit the wrong floor, and Sinatra's kind of mad about it. And he looks at Sinatra and he goes, Mr. Sinatra, it's Harry Connick, I just wanted you to know I apologize for screwing up your song. And Sinatra looks at him, they get to his floor, the door's open, Sinatra looks at him like this,

looks at his wife and goes, you are beautiful. And kisses her right on the lips, he goes, mwah, like like that and steps the fuck out. He's a gangster. He's a gangster. Harry was like, all right, see you later. He's a gangster. Yeah, and Harry was young and up and coming and shit.

It was like, you know, it was fucking awesome. Jelly, how was it? I got to meet Paul McCartney. That was a big one for me. You're talking about crazy moment. Oh my God. I didn't just get to meet Paul McCartney. I got to meet him and John Bon Jovi at the same time that's a

lot I got the picture dude it's hungers I'm hung on my wall hell yeah afraid that and the best part was I hear his manager whisper in his ear he goes Paul it's a young man I want you to meet his name's jelly roll and Paul goes he doesn't see me because I'm behind him and Paul goes I know Jelly Roll and sir guy from fighting the kid this is unreal look at John Bon Jovi they were honoring him that night for music carers he picked me to sing bad medicine it was so cool I got to us and Sammy Hagar John Bon Jovi Michael Trotter from war and treaty this night was crazy Oh, that's insane. It was music wild

Every time I'm in Sammy we got drunk that night. He was feeding me tequila Sammy Hagar is a savage He's a savage dog. He's still running around with a flask of uncut tequila like love him. Yes Love and it's always some new stuff like this right here is a new batch. We're trying this one I was like, all right fucking I expect that from me. Yeah, just all the way Sammy. You belong there, bro I feel let's take a little break cuz I'll tell you what's bothering me What we have our boy jelly roll in and neither one of us are looking very good right now And you know, I said my wife. Oh, I wish I'd buy two classic on the first day I'm not wearing true classic because who knows these but who knows this dude's Grammy nominated

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cause they were like, they were sending me a song and they were like, Mr. Bon Jovi wants you to sing Bad Medicine. And I was like, huh? They were like, Mr. Bon Jovi wants you to, he picked Bad Medicine for you. He picked the artist that did the Music Cares to honor him. They gave him a list of artists, he picked the artists,

and then he picked the songs for them. Damn. That's how much he knows voices. That's wild. And it was crazy because everybody he picked, like Melissa Etheridge did Dead or Alive. That's a great song. He healed it.

Crushed it. And it was like, I was thinking like, Melissa Etheridge on this, and then she comes out, and I was like, this motherfucker's still a genius. Oh yeah. I, I was like he still hears it because as soon as I heard bad medicine, I was like, oh that's The note up from saving Medicine yeah, you know, I mean I was like he gets it like just still that sharp, dude And when that happens, do you run in the room and tell your girl and she freaking out to her? She's losing her shit.

Bunny and me, that's why I love my wife. You know her real well too, you know her. Is we're still like jump on the bed excited like kids. We're still like pillow fight about good news kind of stuff. You know what I mean? We still have moments where we're pulling up to the CMAs and I broke the Lincoln out, we're pulling up. And I look at her and she's a little teary eyeyed and I'm a little teary-eyed and she's like

Can you fucking believe this and I was like not at all? Let's go house like I'm not at Yeah, you know the man. I was it's a fucking fairy tale I'm like this is and we're so honest about who we are from day one to now. There's nothing high You know somebody posted there was a headline the other day Jellyrolls wife former sex worker. I was like you're fucking five years late to that head You know what I'm saying? I was like we've been owning that 17 What we need to talk about is her having a top five fucking podcast Wow, the headline should say yeah fucking former hooker has top five podcast on Spotify.

Yeah, man. That's what that headline. Well, how about the fact that she was there for you when, before all this shit popped off too. Period. Oh, yeah. Financed it, everything. It's such a, I love that too, because now that we're like new

to people, some people, they're like, look at that gold digger. I was like, I was the gold digger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go fuck yourself. Have you guys had any time to Sell it. I mean been on the road. Yeah took some time. She's been traveling with me. It's been really cool, man Have you got her own bus? She wrapped a pink bus on the last door. It's good girl little bunny brigade She did her own meet and greets. She's sold more merch than everybody on the tour, but me

There's a hierarchy with music too, right? When you're, cause it's not really that way with comedy, but when you're with an OG, when you're with somebody who's been doing it a long time, younger musicians tend to be very reverential. There's a whole pecking order, or am I wrong? Yeah, well there's just like, I think that we're very, we know that we're all accumulations

of every sound we've ever heard. So knowing that, I look at all these people and we all do kind of like one way or the other we were inspired to some degree. You know what I mean? By something these people have done before us. Even if you didn't dig the music sometimes like the human or that kind of stuff will stick.

So we're like very, very, it's no very very especially in country music country music's the most respectful genre I've ever seen of just it is the epitome of the opposite of the crab in the barrel yeah there's no I don't hear be trying to grab people and pull them oh yeah awesome only be I mean Georgia Florida line they beef right there too but that's it that's that's not even completely so no yeah individualistic the But that's it. That's not even completely. Comedy's so different. You know how that shit. Yeah, who does? Comedy's so individualistic.

The people that do it are very, because it's not collaborative. You're not playing with other people, you're not listening, it's more just you, it's like you alone. It's a really different kind of thing. Yeah, you know what's funny though? I've heard stories from y'all about

how toxic it can get in that community, but it's so weird because I was blessed to come in through y'all and to y'all's community which is the most genuine group of friends I've ever seen yeah you know what I mean like they're like real friends so of course that's cuz you've met like you have to go through you know the you're meeting the squad I came right into your circle I came right into Theo's circle by extension you introduced me in Burt circle me and Bert are fucking Have the bromance of all bromance of course half decade now was with him last night took me to the Comedy Store

He'll me him Porter and Polly Shore love it Polly showed me the Comedy Store. Yeah, it was fucking Chris is killing This is he had a 6 a.m. Flight. So he's grumpy Chris a little bit at the end of the night He looked at he looked at Bert and he's grumpy Chris a little bit at the end of the night. He looked at Bert and he said, I don't wanna go. I'll see you next week. And Zach Morris was with us from Shinedown. He's like, I'll see you in two weeks. And he looked at me and he said, fuck, I guess I gotta go.

I was like, yeah, motherfucker. Did Bert give you some of his new, was it tequila or something? No, the Porosos? Yeah, I had some with him at the, so we were all out there Super Bowl week together, all working the circuits. Yeah. And me and the the boys busting with the boys Yeah to the went to his show that night and then me and Taylor went out gambling with Dana. I hit for like 70 Yeah, but Dana White stories of gambling is real. Really, you know, it's not urban myth

No, you know, he's back. You know, he's banned from the palms. What cuz he's such good. He's such good gambler They banned they person that. They banned him? Listen, me, him, and Hunter Campbell. It was so cool. And Hunter is big. No. Hunter Campbell is basically the matchmaker for the UFC. So any big fight you see, he's the man behind the scenes.

Dana do like, if it's an Izzy fighter, like a huge name, that's Dana. Everything else is Hunter. Beast. Hunter's the man. And he's a Vegas native. What's your game? Yeah.

A blackjack. So I fit right in, dude. Me, him, and it ended up being me, him, and MGK. How much technique is in that? Who's sitting there just racking, and Taylor LeWan kicking ass. I don't know, I was following Dana and Hunter. Yeah, Dana Taylor.

I was lost, and I got to, have y'all heard of this kid named Exposed, his name's Cody? You should check him out, he's like a live streamer, and he's a professional gambler live streamer, but he is the most, him and Nick Merckx, who I watch play Call of Duty all the time. You should check him out. He's like a live streamer and he's a professional gambler live streamer But he is the most him and Nick Merck's who I watch play Call of Duty. I love Nick I love Nick Nick's them I went gamble with them first and won like 20 25 or something crazy and I'm just sitting there following them, too I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm at the table. I don't know either one of them

I'm just a fan of Nick's and I sit down all nerdy with my little money like I don't know what I'm doing I don't fuck your game up and we ended up running it up and Dana help you out, right? You like Taylor was saying he was down big time and Dana was like no just what? Listen to what I tell you to do. You're gonna make your money back Dude, there are stories of Dana waking up out of a sleep to go help the note boys at like 4 a.m Went back a hundred and fifty thousand dollars where they like woke Dana. I was like you gotta help us We're down a quarter and Dana's like I'll be there in 20 minutes They like woke Dana up, like you gotta help us, we're down in quarter and Dana's like,

I'll be there in 20 minutes. You hear the story about- It just shows up like poppa poppa, just cleared the fucking table. There's a story about Dana where he got, he doesn't drink now, but he got all drunk one night and gambles nonstop. And he went back to the hotel,

I think it was like the Tropicana or something like this back in the day. And he woke up and he was like, oh man, I just wanna stay one more, he like called Dana, he said I just need to stay one more night and then what'd I owe you guys, like 30, 40 grand? Like sir, you're in the hole for three million last night.

He's like, oh shit, didn't remember any of it. He's just a wild boy. That's when you have a lot of money. No, we had a ball, dude. We sat there and man, it was crazy and fine. The only reason we stopped gambling is because I was up so much, Dana looks at me on the counter and goes,

look, I'm not telling you what to do But if I came in here for $70,000 that fast I'd fucking get off the table. He's like we'll hang and we hung We just quit gambling. Yeah, it's dope It was awesome. That's all I need now you're doing are you any New things you're into you are you spending the money? What are we doing with all this money? No, no, man We're saving and putting them, you know, the same frivolous kind of you know me I love a necklace and a watch about a couple of old schools. I did I bought me a 64. Oh, yeah, Lincoln Continental

Okay, I had the 70 something Cadillac about a 51 roadster fully built everything ready to go. Yeah, there's a shop in Nashville Yeah, there's a place called Elite Customs. His name is rich. I love you rich. Thank you so much I'm gonna shoot this clip to you. He did he's done every car I've ever had and he uh, I let him brainchild this 64 I don't know there might be a clip of me pulling up. Please. There might be a clip of me pulling up in it to the CMAs And in on there, uh, I don't know if it'd be on there. Yeah, probably you don't fully built Yeah, this is round up though. This dude he built he built it there goes my Lincoln right there access roll down How do you restore the pieces the restore? This is me. It's my blue one Dog that interior is wild. Yeah, what engine is that? Look at that crazy?

I forgot what he put it's like like a Mustang engine or something crazy. He put the big boy in it God dog. Yeah. No, he completely redid everything. It must be how about that that car didn't run You can see it right there too next to the truck in the middle. Yep. He uh That thing is so sick. It is so it didn't run. He just took that from it didn't run Do we had to get I had to get it? Shipped from Utah to Nashville. I mean didn't have an engine in it at all How long did it take to get that? Didn't have a bumper. How long did it take them to do that? It's about a year-long project

We put a year in it. But as a builder, how dope is it for him for you to be like, build this the best you can, because for those guys, like, say last. Dream come true. You know what the best part was? He surprised me. See, look at the engraving on the handles.

He had engraving, I'm sorry, that was my fault. It's all good. I'll send you pictures. I mean, he did engraving on the handles. Shob, you would come if you'd seen this thing. I'm coming right now. It's crazy. This would be... That thing is so dope.

He's wearing his cum pants. No, those are... So you just whip around in Nashville in that so you got some whips. I still got the big boy truck though, the one I've always had. Big boy truck. I still got that truck. I'll never get rid of that truck. Damn, that thing is filthy. He had the engraver engrave my logo in the steering wheel. It's that kind of detail that he got to do to it.

How much free time? I didn't pick a color. You didn't pick a color? Dude, I literally shipped him the car and said- It's smart though, because this is all he does. That lipstick orange. That's like him coming to you giving you advice on your album cover. Literally.

Like, no, no, that's what I do I've gone to him my wife about some details Look at that just little sad that that was that lipstick orange. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So awesome sex is what I call Yeah, it's gold sex, but you don't even you're touring so much. You don't have as much time to spend money, right? Yeah, I was gone about 300 days last year. This year has been a little cool I took March off and I went to a place called on site in Nashville It's like a mental wellness place. And I spent a couple weeks up there kinda getting my head straight.

Did you need it? Yeah, I just needed to breathe. Well, I wanted to make sure that I was anchored into what God's given me. You know what I mean? I found myself suddenly having a platform. The Synod thing did it for me, really, when I was like, yo, I wanna make sure that I...

You realized the power. The power. I wanted to make sure I had a really clear head. I just needed some outside thinking. Remember got you here. Exactly, right? Yep, just go anchor myself because like I know my mission is so much bigger than music at this point and that's your responsibility So I I would assume you checked in there just kind of yeah sure you connect. Yeah, it's great. It's great I just love their program. They've helped a lot of people. What do they do there? It's like you do like like intensive therapy work

But it's also like a lot of like practical living stuff And I got with the guy miles adcocks that owns it and kind of do like a mental coach thing Just I want to make sure that this what I was telling my wife. I got with Gary Brekka I'm down 70 pounds this year already I'm doing that 5k with Burt and I was like I want this year last year was an incredible year for me man This is so cool to talk about y'all, with this, with y'all, because I hadn't talked about this with nobody.

I was like, last year was an incredible year for me, but I ended the year fatter than I've been in 20 years. I ended the year tired, exhausted from carrying that weight, exhausted, just over. And I was just, I wasn't a great husband last year. Not that I was a bad husband, I just wasn't present. I was on 300-something days, I wasn't a great father. And I was that I was a bad husband, I just wasn't present. I was on 300 something days, I wasn't a great father. And I was just like, in the middle of all this,

I wanna have the best year of my career in 2024. I wanna be the fucking healthiest I've been in 2024. I wanna be the best husband I've ever been in 2024. I wanna be the best father. I wanna be the best mentor. I wanna be the best mentee. I wanna be the most financially responsible. I wanna be the most present.

You know what I'm saying? I went and I was just like so I looked at March I was like we're gonna take March off got my teeth redone. I've been in the dentist for 20 years They know who's saying when got my teeth Me and Joe exact same back is same thing the time off for yourself. You're getting you looking great. Yeah The best decision you get off the road get off the road what as a brother, whether y'all use this or not, friends, don't miss the blessings. Don't just sit at the house. No, you know me, bro.

Go talk to somebody, go take walks, go get with some outside thinkers, you know what I mean? Like take this opportunity to read a book you've been wanting to read. Like I did all that in March, and I felt, when we got on the plane to come here, dude, I've never felt more inspired. It's a way of reaching beyond yourself.

Cause what happens when you're as busy as you are with this fame stuff is you start becoming the center of your own existence. And it feels like you have to do that, but I think the most important thing in how to manage anything like this, or in your life in general, as I get older, is you have to reach beyond yourself.

Reading books, like reading a great novel about someone else's experience, someone else's life. It sounds like a little thing. It's so fucking important. You'll learn more about life. But I think too, Jelly, where I connect with you, like we're on the same vibe, like same thing last year, just hustling, hustling, hustling.

And I stopped and I was like, I don't like who I'm becoming. Because everything, and I don't know how to balance it. Like I didn't know what to do. I had to call my manager Lex, you know, who's been with you for 17 years, I told him, I said, I don't know what to do, Doug. Like I'm always been a good dad,

but I can be a much better dad. I'm a decent husband, I can be much better. I'm a good podcaster, I can be much better. And my car stuff, the merch, the stand up, I was like, I'm about to husband, I can be much better. I'm a good podcaster, I can be much better. And I get my car stuff, the merch, the stand up, I was like, I'm about to break, Doug. I don't know what to do. Spread too thin. Spread too thin.

Spread too thin. It'll get you, man. So I just pulled back. I was like, let me chill for a second, and then analyze and try to figure this stuff up, and then get back to it. And since I've been off the road, like never been in better shape,

never been a better dad, like I coach my son's baseball team, football team. Oh yeah, he's on spring break. Like I've never been happier because it's just to your point, and yours is on a much grander scale, so I can only imagine.

But even with me, like running the business is all the business I do. I just call my manager and he knows me, like I don't say shit, you know this, pretty mentally tough, you know this, and I was like, I'm call my manager and he knows me like I don't say shit I'm you know this pretty mentally tough you know this and I was like I'm about to break dog. I don't know what that means but I need help. Dude I'm telling you man you ever want to come out to Tennessee and hang out in that cabin for a week dude it did great for me. Yeah. It was incredible for me dude and it's man I'm

you're doing the right thing man it's important and it and you're gonna have a renewed sense about it. Yeah. I'm ready for this year now. I was telling Miles that I'm going to start doing a month of just self stuff every year. I'm going to take a month every year and just deal with the dentists, go see the doctor. I didn't have a doctor. I've been three years into traveling and realized that I've been like still men at clinic and out here. You know what I'm saying? You're like, I need a doctor.

I was buying medications off the dark web. Yeah. I just got a general doctor. Me too. To give me a checkup. Dude, I got a general doctor in March. I went and did all that stuff. Like went to the cardiologist. Same. Like, shit I've been avoiding. Some grown up shit. Yeah, I just adulted for a whole month. Picked my kid up from school. You know what I mean? Taking that time off, I think it informs your art too. It makes you a better writer. It makes you a better musician. Because we're constantly going, it's tough.

You got to live. The great jazz musicians used to call it woodshedding, where they would go, literally they'd stop, and they'd just go into the woodshed. And they would just play and be alone, and come out with a whole new sound. And that idea, it's a really cool thing. It's almost like this aesthetic, ascetic sort of idea,

this principle of almost meditation. Yes. You know, you was talking about getting outside of your own head. That, man, that struck with me, Brian, because that's another reason I hang out at comedy clubs. Yeah. Because I'm not, it's not a music club.

My favorite thing to do after I perform is to listen to musicians. Yeah. It's so weird. My favorite thing after I've had like a night if there's a live band anywhere I'll go and watch that. Yeah, I want nothing else. It gets right out of your head. Yeah, it's not a joke no more It's like for me. It's the same when I get back there. I'm just watching a bunch of homies that do their thing That's so different than my thing. It's so disconnected from what I do and it's not about me Which makes it even cooler because even last night I was just a part of Adam Ray's Dr. Phil. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't about me and that's just so cool when you walk out there and you look around and I'm just like half

He's motherfuckers don't even know I'm a singer. Yeah, who the fuck is this fat dude? Adam Ray's bringing out He's gonna tell a joke, you know And the community is good, especially the guys you like the whole community is good too and supportive first So it's like an outlet that besides music and I've also I do stand up though Have you ever thought about I don't know man. I maybe one day of later, but it's not here's the question I would you need to he just like that Is you're flirting with yeah, I'm you're spending that much time I feel like you're flirting with it cuz I just you know, I love it cuz it's I think I like it

Because I don't want to try it. All right, cuz I'm well maybe later But for now, it's like I'm afraid like anything else my concept is once I tried it It would be a thing if I liked it. I don't need another thing. You want to be I go there to not have a thing I'm telling this why we're brothers. You know the exact same because if I start something, yeah, it's all in You're like god forbid I get a laugh in there. Oh, fuck, my manager would hate me. I canceled tours. I'm fucking living in Austin.

That's a fucking work in the fucking little boy room. You're welcome in my life, dude. I didn't start with him. Why don't you get on and tell a story? Next thing you know, I'm headlining something in Australia. I would push him out there. I go, just tell a story. He goes, what?

I was like, we had like how many people? The first time you ever got on stage, 2,100 people in Seattle. And he was like, we had like how many people? The first time you ever got on stage, 2100 people in Seattle. And he was like, I mean that's a lot of people. And he goes, what am I doing? I go, I'm going to pretend I'm late. You go out and just tell a story. He's like, what story?

I go, the one you fucking told me the other day. And I would just push him out there and he'd tell a story. And then we did that probably, I don't know how many times, 12 times and then he goes and I said you're gonna start doing stand-up now he goes but I don't know I go that's what you've been doing yeah yeah like you you better be careful where you point me yeah you know I'm saying cuz I'm like no I just bought a race car yeah I'm full blown right now what let's kid I know you've talked about it too much no what do you got brother we got I just bought a race car. Yeah. I'm full blown race car driver. I know you've talked about it too much.

No, what do you got, brother? We got to talk about it, even though off camera. What the fuck was you doing when you flipped your truck, bro? No, dude. That is the wild, I'm on social media and 30 people sent that to me like, check on your boy. Yeah, wow. I was like, fuck.

Bro, wild. 1200 horsepower in a Dodge. That's the end. Yeah, 1200 horsepower and I turn off the traction. Here's the wild thing is we built the whole truck, you know, and whatever, 1200 horsepower, and we're out at this famous like off-road place in Johnson Valley, and everyone like my boys

at King Shock, Super Professionals, BJ Baldwin's the best race car driver in the world for off-road. Ryan at Kibbe Tech, all these guys have 30 years of experience. They're like, we'll come with you, man, because it's your first time. But you know, I was impatient. I was like, fuck that. Got one of my producers. I'm like, let's go.

We're going today. No. So we drive down there. And I'm there for four hours doing my thing, tearing it up. We're getting all this dope footage. And then we're about to leave. And my producer's like, dude, we need one more, like a dope shot. Are you doing one more donut?

And they're just driving off in the sunset and that's the last shot. We get the drone out. And the drone out when it happens. The drone is out, yeah. I'll show you the other shit. Yeah, I haven't seen that footage. So I was like, dude, I'm tired, man.

I gotta get back, my son has baseball. They're like, just one more shot. I'm like, all right, say less. That's what I had. Boom, boom. Ruin my whole try. The traction control kicked on, which it wasn't supposed to. So Raptors, this gets in the weeds here. The traction control kicked on which it wasn't supposed to.

So Raptors, this gets in the weeds here, Raptors are, you can shut off four wheel drive. The Rams, the TRXs, you can't. It's always in four wheel drive. But the, like around the water cooling the forms, like if you hold down the traction control button for 10 seconds, it will shut it off. So it did say it was shut off.

My problem is I have so much horsepower. While I'm doing the doughnuts that wheels spinning like crazy The cars computer went no we need to lock up. We need to set this traction control So that's why you see go from zero to hundreds Mmm, and then you know the fighter in you though came out immediately Me and my wife watched like four times a bit and because I knew you were okay. We were just laughing No, it's hilarious. It was good. Yeah, but the best part was I kept Slowing down to look for you have the oh shit I fucked up moment and you didn't do cold as ice all the way to the moment it flip out

You that's why what's unbuckle yeah, let's flip and I was like out you made one little grunt You had one little sigh You had one little sigh. He got concussed too. Flash knocked me out. Yeah, and then I was sitting there, I'm cussing as the video's going on. I'm like, fuck, fuck, and it's my truck. In case he comes out and he's like, man, you all right? I'm like, yeah, man, my goddamn truck.

And I was just staring out into the freaking desert for like 10 minutes in case he's like, bro, you're concussed. I'm like, from what? He's like, the fucking car crash. I was like, I don't think so, man. And then, you know, I've been knocked out like from what? He's like the fucking car crash. I was like I don't think so man and then you know I've been knocked out by some of the best dudes in the world. I've had concussions from everybody. Football, Big Big Dog, Roy Nelson, nothing messed me up more than that truck crash. As far as then that's a whole other subject but mentally your boy's messed up. About

three months. God, dog. Like just my brain, my words were flubbing and I talked for a living so I knew it too. Well, you're still fucked up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just getting over it. Due to a lot of help, Aubrey Marcus helped me, Bradley Martin, Rogan, like, you know, told me some stuff I could do,

but you like, in UFC or football, you get a concussion, I was fine. You got hit, you can see it. You got hit like your head goes. I think it's age and and I've you know, I've had a lot of concussion So this was the one where God was like a dumbass. Yeah, slow down. Yeah, it was the last shot fuck The day what don't put us on the map My producer goes dude as your friend, I'm glad you're okay as a producer. This is gold My producer goes dude as your friend. I'm glad you're okay as a producer. This is gold

When you have the GoPro going I want to see the aerial though. I got you it looked fucking gnarly. That's wild Yeah, how long you know if we leave tomorrow we fly to Austin. We'll be in Austin for the weekend We're doing I might go to 300 actually go support Jamal Hill My guys doing the chef chef and form so I think I'm gonna go see him No, we don't are they doing it? Where's where's 300? 300 in Vegas, that's a big boy card. Yeah, it's a big car, dude I hit hunter and he was like anytime anywhere. So come on if you just want to go to and I'm off Saturday is the crazy part I want to see max too bad. Oh, yes I'm off Saturday is the crazy part. I want to see Max too.

Bad. Hell yeah. Love Max. And then we'll be CMTs on Sunday, the Country Music Television Awards are Sunday. We're back up for three again. It's a big night for us. I get to perform.

Damn. ABC, Hulu, thank you. Monday, going to kill Tony. Fucking with Hinchcliffe, baby. Going to see my boy. Killing it. We have become really close, man. Like, I've been in Austin so much and I just always hang with him.

And he's just such a good dude. He is. Tony's been at that for 12 years or something. I don't know, 10 years. I tell you a true story. I don't sing the National Anthem. Biggest live podcast in the world. Yeah, I don't sing the National Anthem because it's just made for artists to fail. You don't win.

Is that right? Dog, unless you're Whitney Houston or Stapleton, nobody, you only fuck it up or nobody talks about it. It's never, nobody goes all that, you gotta like, and I'm neither, so I just don't do it. And I was drunk at the, and y'all know I'm famous for saying drunk stuff

and doing it. That's like a thing for me. And I was drunk and I kept telling Tony, I was like, Tony, I'm gonna come sing the national anthem at your first arena show when you do it down here for your podcast. And you crushed it. I was at Tony, I was like, Tony, I'm gonna come sing the national anthem at your first arena show when you do it down here for your podcast. And you crushed it.

I was at that show. Yes, and I went. And the best part was, I think I hit Tony like three or four days before Tony hit me, it was like, yo, was you, question mark? And I was like, the Jets book, dog, I'll be there. He was like, you're shitting me. And I was like, swear, dog,

it's been on my calendar for eight months. Flew down, got to see him and Dr. Phil, it was the best show ever. Where was that at? Austin, when he did the HEB Center two nights in a row. Tony's going to fucking crypto in Madison Square with it, dude, crazy. It's been the coolest thing ever to watch.

And I was, dude, you know this about Tony, but I've met few people that know more about music than really I didn't know He's a I didn't know that how many Rogan dog. No, we know a lot about it How much Rogan knows about something? Yeah, but music knowledge is what blew me you ever see him draw You see so Rogan can Rogan can draw. Yeah legit draw legit draw He's a he's a really good pool player. Wow, you know. Legit draw. He's a really good pool player. Wow. You know, he knows music.

He knows jazz. He's a great hunter. Yeah, he's a great hunter. Yeah, he's a great hunter. He knows his cars like a motherfucker. Because when he gets into something, he gets into it all the way. But music, like there are certain, very few things

that I'll bring up to him. Like it could be like some, like a philosopher like Alan Watts or whatever. And he's like, I've been listening to him for years. Or just, we talked about jazz one time and he knew a lot about jazz. And I was like, how the fuck? It's crazy. You know, even cars, you got this new car and you know,

me and him always talk about cars. And he sent me the car he got and the car he got, I won't say cause he hasn't announced it, but I don't know if he is, but the car he got is my brother's favorite car for like 20 years. And he got like the pinnacle of it. I know this car in and out. brother knows it better than anybody so I know that car

Spin off these facts that you'd have to be like a real Gear had to know all these specs and he just called out. He's like nah, man, you're off on that But I'm like god, how do you have the time? Yeah, like even I didn't know that shit We're he's like, oh no, and then he just because he's inquisitive because he gets wild weeds If you say some shit if you if you're if you're convenient with something you said like a fact he'll go wait a minute Hold on what? Explain that because how did this wait you said this and you're like, oh fuck man You're not it, you know, you're you're lazy when you talk sometimes and he's like, I don't understand what that means I got with him. No, you're gonna I want to take a little break and talk about like you know your dick game.

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Yeah. And him to be able to retain this information. I don't remember a motherfucker I met seven minutes ago's name. Yeah, but he's also- And Joe Rogan will remember the fucking life story. He's also crazy disciplined though. Like we went to Felix. Felix at the time, which is a restaurant in Venice,

was the best pasta in the world. They get their flour from Italy. They have a pasta maker who studied in Italy, okay? So it was considered the best, one best pasta in America, some shit. So when you go to Felix, you're gonna eat pasta. And Joe had just decided he was only gonna eat leaves and meat. Yeah.

And I go, but we're in Felix and they were bringing out these crazy pastas. And I go, just try it. And he goes, it's not happening. It ain't happening. And all he had was a piece of very rare meat. Like he'll stick to his fucking guns. And then I said to him, I go, you know, you're the only person I've known him since I was 27. And I said, you're the only person we probably talked to still probably twice, three times a week. And I said, you know, you got this big deal again. So now he's got all the money, all the fame.

And I said, I haven't seen you changed even a little bit and I haven't, he hasn't changed even a little bit from the guy I knew. If anything, he's got more peace of mind, more's more peace of mind, but he hasn't changed fundamentally. I said, what do you think it is? And he said, well, I don't know, but I work out every day where I want to die. And I think it reminds me that I'm a bitch and I'm human. I was like, okay, whatever your fucking methodology is.

Jail, you just went on there and then he hung your platinum record. I brought him a plaque man. I felt weird doing it I want to bring some and I was like fuck maybe just might be one thing you hadn't got You know what I'm saying? That's how I knew it was important because think of me people bring him all sorts of shit And then cuz I want there sure took a picture down and hung it up right then dude Cuz it was the coolest and everybody who's played it sent me that like all my music homies But when they go now, they send me the picture of the plaque and it tickles me I knew it was a big deal because I was there shortly after you doing it and I saw your The album the platinum album like holy shit. He likes it. He's dude Rogan was like

He reminds me I didn't see why y'all have been friends for so long He reminds me of y'all's whole group of friends When something good happens in my life, whether it's Gary Brekka announcing I lost 50 pounds or me winning an award or getting a Grammy nomination, I can count on you, Rogan, Diaz, Hinchcliffe, they'll beat every music artist in America to say, congrats, this is fucking awesome.

Keep kicking fucking ass, dog dog You know what I mean? Just just he'll don't shoot the link or whatever wherever they say that to me and it's just that's just fucking and I judge I don't want to say I judge people on that but it just shows the character a little bit means Yeah, they're giving up. They want you to win. Yeah, it's an immediate kind of thing. You know what I mean? It's just like it's I'm with you. I can count on yeah Yeah, I can know I can look at that phone when I get it and I know that you know The top's the most recent. I know if I scroll to where the last blue bubble is it'll be one of these five names Yeah, sure. As you said that I was like if I ever if I get Jelly's number

I'll have to do that, but now I feel like a phony. Yeah Jelly, congrats buddy I try to beat all of them How much longer we have Jelly? I know you guys have a hard out. We got like 10, 15. 10? All right. How far of GPS are we to the studio?

It'll be about 45 minutes probably. About the same distance. Cool, yeah, we got about 10, 15. So you're working with- I'm finishing the album. You are? Breaking news, I'm finishing my album today. Wow.

I got the studio books, big day for us. Damn. And you're working with Gary Brekka. What's he doing for you? Gary came in and really got my blood work straight That's that's the his magic power is he is searching for the stuff that people aren't is Gary the same guy that works with Dana Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I cold hit him too was the best part I'm such a fan of what he did for Dana and Dana just lives by it and everybody

I know I talked about it and then I listened to him on Joe's podcast and I was like man It still really sounds like you know deal talking about So I just cold hit him and lucky for me his wife Sage who is just one of the sweetest humans ever her and her Daughter love country music so they were interested like oh, we know who jelly roll is yeah Look, whatever we can do that Gary was the guy that just no hesitation was like whatever I can do to help So how does it's a lot of media is it tough? No, it's been really easy Yeah, the diet part was the obvious part But I did a lot of work on the therapy side for that too,

because I've been obese my whole life. It's an emotional thing. Yeah, there's a thing like, I try to explain this to people, and this isn't like trying to defend obesity, but it's just trying to give people knowledge that when you see somebody that's over a certain weight, we're past the discipline issue.

Yes, that's right. It's more than that. Yeah, there's something, there's a misfire here. You know what I mean? It's kind of like how some people have different relationships, how you can go have a cocktail and not drink for three weeks, but if I drink tonight, I might go on a seven week vendor or I might completely go into full-blown alcoholism. It's very similar and it doesn't make it right and we need to address obesity on a master scale and I don't condone it at all. It's horrible, but it's a form of a thing, so it's like I did a lot of work to figure out why.

I had this relationship. Yeah, there's some trauma there, right? A lot of it's trauma you're building. For sure, I've had a bad relationship with food for 37 years, 36 years, that I had to figure out. You know what I mean? Because I've done diets and lost a lot of weight, gained it back, and I just wanted to do it

in a more sustainable way, but Gary, but the diet's been the hardest part, but I'm into that now, because I fucking feel great. Yes, you know what I mean? Like dude, I woke up this morning. We walked three miles 30 minutes in a Infrared sauna six minutes in the cold water of it doing it every morning as soon as I wake up I've never felt better. I'm probably I think I've drank twice this year Album too because also, you know being that focus ladies focus and you feel better probably, I think I've drank twice this year. That's so good. I bet that's what's gonna be your best album too, because also, you know, being that focus,

latest focus and you feel better. You know what I'm saying? So the work's easier to do. Yeah, remember something, I just wanna, you're a huge inspiration too. Like you're a lightning rod for that, and I don't wanna put pressure on you or anything, that's silly, but whether you like it or not,

your example is really inspiring, and your example kind of like, lets everybody know, everybody, that anything is possible. You know, if you're a good person and you're, and you've been working as hard as you have for so long. I mean, remember I know you before any of this and you were always so gracious. Like you would just show up. You came and did me and Steve and I were doing a podcast at Zany's and you just showed up. And, and I don't know know man, it's like. Shout out Byrne by the way, I love you Byrne.

He's the best, Steve Byrne is one of my favorite people on the planet. One of the best comedians. Oh hilarious. The only guy that called me every day, he would text me or call every day when my daughter was in the hospital. I don't know him that well.

No, that's who Steve is. He's one of the funny, he's such a good comic, he doesn't get his due, because he's such a funny comic man. I've always said a dream scenario for me would be a tour where Helm, Schultz, and Ross just did crowd work. Oh man, he's so good at crowd work.

You know what I mean? He is so good at crowd work. Yep, he's amazing. Savage. But yeah, you're an inspiration. You're an amazing example, and you did it the right way. And I think what happens when we see you, like if you're testifying in Congress

or you're singing a song, there's something that brings us back to the way things should be in a weird way because everything is so confusing. It's really hard to predict the future, fucking the blockchain, AI, all the shit that's going on. And you always keep it so- I think Jelly makes it normal, B.

Yeah. Like when I see you at the Grammys or American Idol, like I've been watching American Idol since it's been around. It's been my favorite show. So when I see you on there again at the Grammys or whatever, it just makes it seem like normal. If that makes sense. It's crazy. I'm like, that's Jelly with Luke and Katy Perry and Lionel Richie. You did it the right way. That's crazy. That's my guy. That's a purity. They're all great. Luke's my friend and Nashville's my favorite. Luke's my favorite. My favorite.

Katie is so sweet. We just seen her at the I Heart Radio Awards. She screams at me and she runs up to me and then she goes, get out of my way and goes and hugs my wife. She's so hot by the way. Am I wrong? She's so talented.

She is so, everything about her is awesome. You can see why she's like a straight up mega star. She's a mega star in every way. And her personality is infectious whether you're like working with her, and then hanging out with her behind the scenes, sometimes that's not the same person. Not that they're meaner behind the scenes,

they're just different, same person. Same thing with Lionel. Soon as we get off set, same dude I was on set with. I know Luke, so Luke is Luke all the time. Luke's the man, huh? Yeah, Luke is the dude. Luke is. I knew it.

And he just loves this shit. Like he don't really care about anything. He just loves country music. Yeah he seems fun. People, he's just a hoot. He seems like the boys. He's the dude that you'll accidentally start day drinking with and won't realize it until you're like

seven margaritas in and he's like hey we're having fun. I was like fuck. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Luke. He took me to Mexico to play his Crash, was it Crash My Playa? Crash My Playa Festival to Mexico. And it's the first time I got to sing on foreign ground. Was it cool?

Yeah, it was so awesome. It was funny because I was performing for a bunch of Americans. But it wasn't. Do you have plans to go overseas? Yeah, we're working on it. I'm still fighting. The felony, son. He's like, calm down, UFC. Is that right? Yeah, we're working on it. I'm still fighting the Felenies.

He's like, calm down, UFC. Is that an opposite? Come on, man. Call the Justice Department. Come on. Give them a pass. Are you really a threat? You know what I'm saying?

Seriously, it's jellied. God, it's like I'm a. Don't kill the music. Yeah, we're huge in Canada. We're huge in Australia. We're huge in New Zealand. Where those tours would be wild. Bro, you would crush.

If Trump wins, I guarantee he's going to give you a pardon. We're going to go straight into arenas in Canada, Australia, and the UK. Of course. If Trump wins, he will definitely give you a pardon. Yeah, first time. Pardon him. I like his music. Here's the problem.

We got a, I got a state felony. So the shitty part is, even if Biden or Trump agreed to pardon it, my governor has to. But I have a meeting with him. He's been very receptive to that. I bet, yeah, I assume. He's also a really good dude. Our governor mentored at one of the jails I was in,

the last time I was in jail. Oh, that's cool. So I knew him before he was a governor. He just owned a big business around town, and he was famous for hiring felons. So he would come mentally to jail. Yeah. But also what a better message to all those people

that have felonies, like look, yes, you made a mistake. Look at Jelly Roll. Like look, he's figured it out. All you gotta do is be as talented. Why you gotta do is write songs like Jelly Roll? And you too can write. You gotta be nominated for an Emmy. Just get nominated for a bunch of shit.

This is easy, this is so easy. Just write 100 songs in a year and you know. Don't rush, it might not be till you're 40. Yeah, song like Save Me, good luck trying to do that. I just won best new artist of the year for country and pop at the I Heart Radio Awards. That's all. And I'll be 40 in eight months.

That's awesome, so you got 40 years. The other nominees were so good. best new artist of the year for country and pop at the heart radio awards. I'll be 40 and eight months. Yeah. The other nominees were so there was a 19 year old in the category. I'm like, I was old enough to drink when she was born. That's so good. That's when they showed all the other ones. You're like, you already come over there with crow's feet. Tattoos on your face already. It's just these young kids. Like TikTok and there's jelly over here.

I'm up there talking about God and they're like who? Oh man, what a joy man. I'm so glad you made it brother. I love you brother. I would never miss it man. Shob, thank you for everything. Right here I want to make sure I give you your flowers because we talk about it all the time.

But really, I think it was, me and Theo your flowers because we talk about it all the time, but really, I think it was, me and Theo were just talking about when I did this past weekend, I think it was five, six years ago, I did King and the Sting for the first time, it was the first podcast I'd ever done. At Theo's house? And then, yep, yep, at Theo's, that little house

he had close to the comedy club at the time. With Hannah Baron, yep. Yep, yep, with Hannah Baron, who I still love to death to this day. And I'm going fishing with her next month, me and the wife are going to go down there and go fishing with Hannah. So that's been cool, but yeah dude, thank you man. Your friendship has been a lot.

It's kind of like I tell Dwayne, DJ, that he posted my stuff in 2016 and I anchored my shit around this early thing where I was like, yo, if these comedians are seeing it and the biggest fucking movie star on earth's seeing it, I'm onto something. You know what I mean? I was like, I'm onto something. And I love you for that, bro. To be here for this shit to have happened

the way it happened for me, dog, and every time I'm in LA, we'll link it. Every time you want to do the pod, you know I'm always in. One of y'all can't make it, need a motherfucker to step in, zoom me, baby. Let's do it, dog. I'll co-host this bitch anytime. It's good to give him his props,

because I always say if people knew how much Brennan does for people, and sort of anonymously and quietly. He's a connector. He's a connector. And he takes care of you. Brennan's the guy that you hit and go, hey man, can you link me with this guy?

And he doesn't respond, because he just throws you in a group text. Yeah. That's who Brennan Shobb is behind the scenes. And I tell people that all the time about you. I was like, y'all don't know who Schaub is. Not anymore. I was like, this is playful Schaub.

I was like, Schaub is like the dude that if you really needed some shit done, Schaub's the guy that'll get it done. He's the most loyal motherfucker. He's a dog. It's like my buddy Nick Simmons' comic, he meets Schaub, he goes, he's so fucking nice. He goes, he can kill me, but he's so nice.

Yeah, I know. What are you reading the fucking internet? Shut the fuck up. But, Jelly, we love you, brother. I love you, brother. Thank you, man. So glad to be here. So good to finally meet little Tiger Man, too, man.

Yeah, T was cranky. He was a rock star, dog. He listens to your song, Wild One. Yes. With, what's the- Jesse Murph. Yes. It's on replay.

We're proud of that song. That song's number 25 on pop radio. Yes. Yes. It's on replay. We're proud of that song. That song's number 25 on pop radio this week. I got things slapped. Save Me's 23 with Laney and Me and Her 25. Shine Down's between us at 24, so that's a cool moment,

because they're Tennessee boys. We love you brother. Love you, bubba. Keep it on big dog. Love y'all out there too. Love you, Chin, baby. Love you, bro. Chin!

Chinny chin chin! Yeah, let's get a picture.