The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1033

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub talk Donald Cowboy Cerrone coming out of retirement for 2 more MMA fights, Brendan's thoughts on the UFC not taking care of Shane Carwin the way he believes they should..., Bryan and Chin get into an argument, current events around the world and much more. True Classic - Fall is here. It’s time to step up your game. Right now, you can unlock big savings when you bundle packs. Just go to my exclusive link https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER #sponsored JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yes, we did because we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Here we are. We're back. Back, pal. We're back.
Starting point is 00:00:12 And a lot to chat about. A lot to chat about. A lot to chat. We got the Middle East on fire. We got the election. We got Diddy. There's a lot to talk about. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:23 None of those were on the top. Yeah, I knew, I know that. That's why I said it. Cause I was like, this is not like a news show. Well, the Middle East. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:36 What's going on with you? What's happening? Just got done with the interview with Damon Martin. You jumped in on there. I've known Damon 20 years. Wow. Long time, huh? One of my first friends in MMA. Fuck. He's at MMA fighting now.
Starting point is 00:00:47 He was at Fox forever. He was all over. He's like one of the staples as far as legit journalists in the game. He does the pod with Matt Brown, who I love. I talked to cowboy before I came in here. He announced, I'm sure it's the current events, but he announced he's coming back for two fights.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Yeah, I love it. Here's what's crazy is, you know, he's on TR for two fights. Yeah. Love it. Here's what's crazy is You know, he's on TRTs on peptides, you know Comm slash Brendan Chob if you want to get on those if you want to look like cowboy and me, that's all we do That's all we do transcend company comm slash Brendan job save some money get thick Swole be healthy fixes injuries. We can't was been doing that thick, get swole, be healthy, fix his injuries. But Cowboy's been doing that.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah. Nice to go off all that, pee clean, and then he can compete. Yeah. So he's in the protocol for six months. Yeah. He, he, so I ran into him at the UFC and I said, you know, how do you feel? And he goes, I want to fight again. I miss this. And I was like, oh boy.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And you know, I'm sure his body feels great with all the stuff he's taken. He's got a full head of hair. He wants to fight at 85. He's walking around about 220, which is a big weight class. And what do you think when you come off of that stuff? Are you allowed to be on peptides? No. You're not?
Starting point is 00:01:59 No, God, no. You're not allowed to be on growth? None of it. None of it? No. None of it? Growth? There's no exemptions?
Starting point is 00:02:04 No. Absolutely not. You're off. None of it. No, none of it. No, no, no. No exemptions. No, absolutely. You're off. Yeah. So your body, you know, when your favorite fighter got shrunken down, you saw it, it's gonna be like that. Yeah. So like there's guys that, you know, get out of the game and they move on, but they're not on TRT and peptides and then come back. Yeah. Which is all good. Getting shaped. Do your thing. But when you're like Cowboys against the odds, even more so, like to be on, to feel that good, heal your injuries, do all that, and then go completely off and have to train
Starting point is 00:02:32 and get back into camp, like. I wish you wouldn't. He's against the odds. I said the same thing when I first saw the headline, I'm like, oh, Cowboy, what are you doing? You talk to the guy for five minutes, by the time we had done the combo, I'm like, I can't wait for this.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah. He's the man. Yeah. Okay. He's a fighter. Also, I don't feel as weird about him because he doesn't need to do it. Yeah. And he just wants to cause he's exciting.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Now let me ask you this. Who would he fight? Who would you pick for him to fight? Would it be at 85? Yeah. Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I think 70 right now would be hard for him.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I think he's like an 85. Well, remember Brian? He's getting off TRT and peptides He's not fighting 85. He's okay. Well, he's shrink down though, or will it have a lasting effect? No His body's gonna be completely different really? Yeah, you ain't fighting 85. Oh, that didn't happen. Okay, I'll fight it 70 Let's go through No, we won't go through the top 15 then I can see I don't think he's getting something like that He's not okay. No, because also these guys are big. Those guys are fucking big big. He's not fighting 85 dude Okay, well, there's not even worth talking about. No, that'd be insane. He's gonna fight a 70. You're gonna fight a 70 catchweight Nobody 70. Yeah, you know, there's no catch weights. All right, it's two fights. All right 85 is not happen um 70 yeah, you know, there's no catch weight. All right, it's two fights. All right. Yeah, 85 is not happen
Starting point is 00:03:51 He'll fight at 70 but hopefully they give him a matchup and he's one of Dana's favorite if not his very favorite fighter of all Time, you know Dana loves him and they're still there's still in business together at 70 I'm gonna throw out a name, you know, I'm gonna throw out Let me look at Wonderboy. No, I like that but no Kobe Covington well No, so what they're not gonna do is toss them a top like three or four guy. No, no What they like them? Yeah, why would you give them a wrestler? Yeah, Kobe's a fucking that's a terrible matchup No, they'll give him something, you know on the feet like Michael venom page cowboy if venom page gets through Ian Gary
Starting point is 00:04:25 That's interesting. You know, you could do something like that or not. Ian Gary and Gary beat him Yeah, Michael man page has a fight coming up Who's he fighting chin? Oh look, I'm with you on Steven Thompson. I think that'd be a great matchup for a cowboy. Oh Here's one for you. What if what if Nick Diaz beats Vicque? Or even if he loses? Cowboys lost a bunch of fights. Well, Nick Diaz. Because he's not fighting for a hot second. Talk about late next year. Cowboy fought his brother, why not fight his... Yeah, what about Nick Diaz?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Nick. Why not? I'd like that. I'd like him to fight somebody who's a little long in the tooth. And they'll take care of him. Yeah. Get's a little long in the tooth and they'll take care of him yeah, get somebody a little long in the tooth and And there you go Yeah, I'd be fun Be fun. Yeah, nothing solid as it yet. Well, there's something out there. What'd you type in? Michael Venom patient X fight Hmm another good person friend to fight would be Rose
Starting point is 00:05:25 Nomogenes. I think that'd be an interesting fight. I also like that. You know what I mean? Get them in there. Let's move them around. Kayla Harrison. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That would be fun. Kayla Harrison. No, but like, but that, you know, Nick Diaz, something like that, but they'll take care of them. They're not going to throw them. Kobe can't be thrown with a fucking, that's a terrible idea. Do you not like Cowboy? I just think there's a father forever. I think Kobe and it'd be a high-profile fight
Starting point is 00:05:50 So I want it for both of them money wise no, but cowboy once fight twice to get to 50 Yeah, so you don't have cold. He's a nightmare. He's a nightmare. He's also content. Kobe's not taking that fight. Yeah No, yeah, he's just you know, I don't want to see him fight somebody who's young and explosive. I want to see him fight. They won't do that to him. They won't. No, they'll take care of Cowboy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah. Michael Van and Paige. Mighty Mouse. Yeah, Mighty Mouse would be fun. Wonder Boy Thompson, that'd be fun. Yeah, Wonder Boy, yeah. Do you see Dana's comments about it? He said, I hate it. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Love him. Hate that lamented Dana White as he expressed his concern for the legendary fighter who's looking to ride back into battle. He retired for what? What's left to prove. If you want to make money, let's figure something else out. I hate it. When guys retire, they retire for a reason.
Starting point is 00:06:38 They retire because they know it's over. They know it is. It's not over though, if you give them the right matchups. That's my problem with the UFC. Like Nick Diaz shouldn't be fighting Vicente Luque. Right. He should be fighting Tony Ferguson. Tony Ferguson should be fighting freaking Nick Diaz.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Tony Ferguson should be fighting no one at this point. But if he's gonna fight, match him up accordingly. Like don't give him these monsters. Like look at Tony's last eight fights. It's the creme de la creme. Can we get a break? Wonderboy thompson a lot older shavkat muhammad
Starting point is 00:07:13 Monsters do no buckley this young lion. Like what are we doing? Yeah, no So but but cowboy's different than all those guys cowboy is one of danis favorites. He will be taken care of And also there's only here's when I say that, taken care of, there's only so much they can do. It's the UFC taking care of me. And here's Nick Diaz with Shayna walk in the park. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Nate Diaz for a rematch. Nate's not on their contract though.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. Well bring, bring Nate back in. We all love that. Yeah. You're asking a lot. Am I? That's a good fight. That'd be a good fight. Donald's got unfinished business. I don't think Nate, no, if Nate comes back, the only fight they would do would be Connor. So that's not happening. If Nate comes back, really? Yeah, that's the only fight they would do. Man. He might have one left.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I'd like to see it though. But wouldn't you rather see Connor? Of course I would, but I don't think that's ever going to happen. Oh, well, guaranteed. Really? Yeah. Guaranteed. Between him and Nate.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah. That'll happen. Might've happened to UFC, but I get to see Connor fight again, but if Nate were to come back, they ain't wasted it. And this is no disrespect on Cowboy. They'd give him, uh, Connor, cause that fight only has so long to go, you know? They'll take care of Cowboy as much as they can. There are guys at 55 that might step up You know
Starting point is 00:08:32 There guys at 55 that would step up to 70 to fight Donald. I don't think so. I think you know off on this Yeah, you're really bad takes today. Yeah, I want to see my 85, you know, I bet guys at 45 a jump up Hey, man. Hey man, hey bud. Hey bud. What do you mean? I'm just saying, I could see, you know. Is it Max Hallway fighting this weekend? Hey man!
Starting point is 00:08:54 You want it. If you're gonna jump in the pool. What about Alex Pereira? Put your shit on. Would Alex be good? You know, he just, no. Kudos to him though. You know, he just, no. Kudos to him though. It's just gonna build everything he's doing.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You know, his nitro race circus, all that stuff. It's gonna build all that. Yeah, I'm just so curious how he's, I can't imagine going off TRT or peptides. TransAidCompany.com slash Burn Shop. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Really? I can't imagine go off it and then compete
Starting point is 00:09:27 God that it's already tough enough and you're older. Yeah, and you've had help I mean, you know you're older but you getting off the hell. I bet you his injuries are all cleared up He probably feels fucking great. Yeah, but that all they go like yeah, the injuries are healed at this point Can I see his hair? Can you bring his hair up for a sec? I'll show you that transcend video so you can see yeah Yeah, he's walking a juicy 220. I Mean come on that schoolboy hair right there That looks crazy come on bro, come on bro, that's a little much he looks fantastic Where's the helmet all the time to huh? He wears a helmet all the time. Yeah, that's a that's a hair job right there
Starting point is 00:10:07 That's that's some straight-up hair See how it stands straight up dude. Do you know why dude? That's that's how it grows. Dude 50 UFC fights 50 it's so crazy 50 it's so crazy most wins wins in UFC history, most finishes, most bonuses. I don't know if that ever be broken. Most walks to that cage. He is amazing. I support him.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah, that's my guy. He's amazing. That's my boy. I love that dude. Love him. I love him. 50? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 God dang. He's saying steroids, but he's on TRT. He's not on steroids. Yeah, he keeps saying steroids. On steroids. Trans-Sed can't like that. That makes it hilarious. You're on peptides and TRT. But this goes to my point play the play the car one thing chin, you know pause it real quick
Starting point is 00:10:50 Hold on. Let me so I didn't know like, you know Tim brought up about the antitrust law see all this stuff and then Shane has an affidavit in there I haven't spoken to Shane in some time, you know, I know he's struggling last time I spoke to him I didn't know any of this. this is all real first I'm here what I'm reading is from Shane's testimony go I think recently came out car when he was you know like a brother to me and Shane struggling man he's that's my main training partner bring up what Shane said despite having a degree in engineering from Colorado School of Mines I've been unable to maintain adequate focus to hold down my engineering job. I face serious challenging meaning basic
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah, former world champ I champ. I face challenge in the meaning basic everyday expenses for food, shelter. How do you not just go, I get it dude, boom, 10, 15 mil, you're troubles. Can we be human for a fucking second? Could you just be a fucking human being for a second and go, here dude, here man, we know, we know. You don't have to do it publicly. Just from fucking human to human, man. This guy put his life on the line.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I've seen it, dude. I was with him every step of the way from day fucking one He's such a good person. How can you not just go? Here you go. Don't worry about it. That's pennies to these guys You know Shane recently came out car when he was you know, like a brother to me and shit They see that and then cut then cowboys coming back but Cowboys different where it's not as bad cuz Cowboys set, you know, Cowboy has money. Well, you spent so much time with Shane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I met you, first time I met you, you were Shane, you know? Yeah, that was my guy. And he was great. And I remember you telling me about how you guys used to spar and you guys would throw up. You were getting, you were concussed all the time. I was telling a story on the shop show where we used to spar and get in the car and call each other.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Cause we didn't know how to get home. Fuck. All the time. Seriously? And then I would, yeah. Then I jump in his truck and he'd be like, you hungry? I'm like, I'm starving. I didn't have money.
Starting point is 00:13:17 So I'd be like, I'm gonna buy you dinner. And then I'd go, let's go to Chipotle. We wouldn't know how to get there. We used to laugh so hard at it. Cause you were, you were that brain damaged. You were that concussed. No, I mean, you were sparring with the guy with the biggest... You were sparring and going full hard with the hardest
Starting point is 00:13:35 puncher in the UFC. That's what made him a former world champion, made me top 10 in the world. Like that's what it took. Yeah, well, that's insane because his fists were so big. I remember he squeezed me He picked me up and squeezed me and you gotta remember he was 285 pounds way bigger than Brennan Oh, not even close. His hands were so much bigger. He had to cut to 65. I had to sit in a sauna with him and I'd have to get out because I didn't want to lose weight because I was already skinny for heavyweight. He would have to sit in a sauna and make 65. He squeezed me and he goes, and I was like, I started tapping. He goes, that's 30%.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I was like, I'm a grown man. And I looked at Nate Markwell, and I go, because he did that to you. He goes, if I let him, he could squeeze me until I tell him. Like, he was so weird strong, had the biggest hands, and hit, I think he hit harder than anybody. He was the hardest hitter, I think, top three of all time. I mean, I can't get him.
Starting point is 00:14:22 But it's all this, the reason why this one hit right like I know I could. Well it hit for a lot of reasons. Yes but I could list off a ton of guys I know some of them from CT and it's their own battle unfortunately you know there's not a lot of help out there. But then I step back too from business sense from the UFC like let's say I had problems right. I think God I there's none that have shown I, you know, I did buy two hummers and it's insane. That's probably something to do with it. Let's say I had like really bad problems. If I'm the UFC, I would go in that there was a loss.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I'd go, didn't you start playing tackle football at six? I go, yeah, I did. Okay. And how long did you play for? I was in my twenties. Okay. Well, it's about whatever it is, 18 years of football. So do you think he got it there?
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't know. Now you fought, and I fought more than Shane. Shane only fought, I think, six times the UFC. I fought a lot more than that. I fought over 10 times, right? Including Ultimate Fighter. So I had more fights than Shane. Not to mention all the training. I played football longer than Shane. So if I'm the UFC, it's like, how do you know you got it on our clock? On our watch, yeah. Yeah. How do you know you got it on our watch. So it's like this one, it's close to home. I wish they'd take care of them to Dana's credit. I'll turn there and, and I've tried to help Leaster bowling and change is a much better place. From what I hear talking to Leaster about this, who was our head coach, you know, and his son wrestles that I won. Leasers, one of the best
Starting point is 00:15:41 humans on earth, complete bad-ass by the way, But I digress, but least, or you want to, when he called me with these issues, we got on the horn and we were able to reach Dana and to Dana's credit, he put Shane on a private plane, flew him to the Apex center and tried to get him help. So it's not like Dan was like, nah, it's a very difficult problem. It here's the other thing too, and this surprised me too, is if you look at the majority of the comments, the majority of the comments go,
Starting point is 00:16:11 why don't you help him, Brendan? Why don't you pay his bills? You can't. So it's my, hold on. So wait, hold on. I do all right. You think I do well enough to- No. To support a whole other family? To support another family? No. And also all his treatment
Starting point is 00:16:25 and his lifestyle and his cars and insurance and health insurance? No. No, no, no. So hold on. You want me to cover his entire bill? So, but again, it's all like, if I'm the UFC, like again, I'm not the face of this antitrust lawsuit. I, you know, the UFC's done nothing wrong to me, you know? So it's very difficult to untangle this web. It's very difficult. Well, I was going, hold on, Brendan, you just said,
Starting point is 00:16:52 you guys, you spar so hard. Yeah. You couldn't even drive home. Yeah. Was that on our clock? Right. I would say this. I would say that if you, if you were a champion,
Starting point is 00:17:03 if you were a UFC champion, that, that's pretty cool. And, and they're a lot to the sport. And I, I think that maybe there are cases and I'm sure there have been with Dana and with the brass where somebody needs help and there's a lot of help given behind the scenes. I know for a fact they felt that.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah. They help a lot of people behind the scenes that you don't know about. And so hopefully, hopefully Shane gets that help, right? It sounds like he needs literally in-home care. I know he's doing better. I know he's doing better. Yeah. I know he's doing better. Yeah. It's tough, right? Because also- There's a lot of tough things that go on here because from my experience, I'm not saying this about Shane.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I'm really not. I'm not. But there are, there are a lot of athletes who, when they are done, and this is not Shane, I'm, I'm not saying this about Shane. I'm saying there are a lot of athletes when they're done fighting and they could be legends. They've done a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:02 There are other extracurricular activities and substances that play a part a lot of time in their downfall. Now that could be a function of- But that's a function of CT? Like addiction to opiates or alcohol, that's a function of CT? You and I both have been around like pretty famous people and I'll say something to you like this, man, that guy's breathing was different. And then you go, yeah, dude, it's called pills. And I'm like, what? And when you get into the nitty gritty,
Starting point is 00:18:30 when you get behind the scenes, when you pull the curtain back on pro sports, especially contact sports, it's not all roses. And especially when the music stops, there's a lot of shit you're dealing with. People self-medicate because they're going nuts. 110%. But then also too, if I'm the UFC, it's like, you got to be a little crazy to be
Starting point is 00:18:52 a cage fighter in general. So the wiring already is a little different. So if I'm, my argument from the UFC is like, did you do a brain scan when you're four? Were you cool then? Like, did you have all your shit together then? Cause you usually don't start finding grown men in a steel cage or underwear if everything's great at home. So on that point, I was talking about, I was talking to some tier one-
Starting point is 00:19:15 Especially when we start. Now it's a little different, it's more of a sport. When we start, I had no other options. Yes. And I was talking to some tier one guys, you know, those top commandos, those guys were like dealt to all those guys. It was really interesting. I said, I watched a couple of clips of some people, I don't know, and they seemed like they were having a really hard time.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I know one of our guys was having a really hard time with PTSD from the war. And I was like, damn, and then I talked to the guys who've been there, who've done it. And it was very interesting, because and then I talked to the guys who've been there, who've done it, and it was very interesting, because they all said the same exact thing. They were like, well, hold on. How do you know it was from the war?
Starting point is 00:19:53 And I go, I don't. And he goes, exactly. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they got into this extreme lifestyle because they were already dealing with demons? And I was like, fuck fuck I never thought of that Yeah, I don't know if that's the majority The origin if I'm the UFC and I let's say I hit them with antitrust lawsuit. I'd go hold up
Starting point is 00:20:13 You're on record saying start playing tackle football at six motherfucker. Yeah, we had nothing to do with that Yeah, and you played into your 20s. How many concussions you have University of Colorado and we're gonna front the bill Yeah, what about you sparring? We didn't tell you to spar like that also the other the other argument for the UFC is Every other league doesn't make money They're the only league that's exactly right out the business model to profit. They're the only yeah profiting Combat sports league of all time.
Starting point is 00:20:47 They've done an amazing job. The best. And I got something else to say. Well, that's why people are coming after him. So when you go, Oh, you got to pay him whatever half, whatever you want the MLB, you know, half or 55%, whatever the unions do with these other leagues, it's, it's, it's fighting. It's fighting.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And they do make stars. They do make stars. For sure. And they do, but. They do make stars. For sure. And they do. But here's the other thing that's really interesting. They had these new gloves. And these new gloves keep the hands tight so you don't poke as much and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:21:17 For whatever reason. Knockouts are down. Knockouts are down by what, 11%? I read that article. Yeah, it's not good. And that's not good for viewership, right? Because us viewers want to see knockouts because that's good for ratings. Knockouts are very bad for your brain.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Knockouts can change careers forever. Knockouts do change careers forever. Knockouts end careers. And yet we as the bloodthirsty audience, that's what we want. So your favorite fighters knocked people out. Correct. Correct. So the game is already a zero sum motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And so, you know, sometimes it's like, if, if you care about, if you care about Shane and people like that, then everybody here who watches the UFC should give a dollar to a go fund me Give a dollar. It's that Conor McGregor pay for you. We're paying 1.2 million. You know, they're making all that money Give it to let's let's say forget the UFC Let's set up a go fund me and if you're a real fan of the UFC's and you really care about fighters You really care about this don't be sitting there laughing with blood in your mouth Help someone out before you criticize Dana before before you criticize the UFC, before you have
Starting point is 00:22:26 something to say, what are you doing about it? Because the audience that gets the most out of this, that wants knockouts. Yeah, because to your point, if the audience wanted grappling and they care about fighters, they boo. So all you guys are boo. The UFC is doing what you're asking for. And then you're getting mad. You're all, I'm me too. But again don't I don't there's no solution to this
Starting point is 00:22:49 There's no solution. Maybe it's a crowdfunding thing. No, no, no, no, no, hold on. There's no solution Yeah, it's it's it's just a game a fight game It's the game and also I'm coming from a different perspective where I'm okay, man. I'm always so far. I'm okay I have a career. Yeah doing other things. So I have a different perspective where I go. Yep man. So far I'm okay, I have a career, doing other things. So I have a different perspective where I go, yep, part of the game. Now you talk to another guy who's probably not doing one, he's like, no, hold on, dude, it's not part of the game.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I didn't know what I was getting myself into. So there's that side and then there's my side, right? So each case is individual. Have you ever talked to a lot of football players that played forever and they're older now and they're fine? Like Kimbo Kamper and stuff I know CT is a real thing in the NFL. I'm not saying it's not I'm not but I'm saying that there there are also a lot of guys The majority of fun they nobody talks about this but the majority are so my dad was saying I think in about 20 years
Starting point is 00:23:38 Football will no longer be and I'm like you're crazy. You're crazy. Just great first of all Again, the juice is worth the squeeze. First of all, football is an amazing sport. It is part of the game. Everybody plays with an injury, but you don't outlaw it. Oh, no. You let people like that. The juice is worth the squeeze.
Starting point is 00:23:53 You have to see us here to stay. Of course, it's never been bigger. But then also, like I got into it with this mom the other day. She's like, her son's really gifted in athletics. She's like, I still know about tackle. We talked to our general doctor. He said, it's probably not healthy. I went, yeah? How many years your general doctor. He said, it's probably not healthy. I went, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 How many years your doc, your general doctor play football because he's never played. Of course he says that. Of course he says that. Yep. I know a ton of people that played football since they were six like me and they're fun. Who would you be without football and stepping in that octagon with those, without those years? Really?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Probably, probably be white guy for Kamala Harris. You worry about your fucking head all the time. I know you do. No. I know the forefront of your brain is when you see Shane, the truth is in your heart, you're like, that could be me someday. I know you feel that way.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Oh yeah. And, and I don't think you would trade that for a million years. It is because when you walk in the room, you know, and everybody else knows that you put yourself in the fucking belly of the beast, and you lost and you won. And very few people do that.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And there's a pride to that. And there's an identity that comes with that. And there's a benefit to that. There's a reason we look up to them. And there's an understanding about life that you can share with your kids that you wouldn't have had otherwise. There are a thousand benefits that outweigh, or at least mash, the damage you take. Yeah, it's very difficult. It's very difficult
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Starting point is 00:26:10 My mother, when I was trying to be an actor, it's not a great comparison because you don't take damage, but she was like, you want to be an actor. She goes, do you know how many people make it? Do you know that you could be a, you could be literally a waiter the rest of your life? You know that you could fail and be a small.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I was telling my kids. It's worth the fucking. I was telling my kids I don't believe in odds. I don't either. Yeah. I don't believe in that. I don't either. I believe that if you set your mind to something, you can get it done.
Starting point is 00:26:36 The only odds that matter is the lottery. Yeah. Because you have no control over it. But I believe in setting your mind to something. If it's in your control, tell my kids odds don't matter. But dad, they say baseball, one in six million, don't care. You're not one of those six million.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You're different. That's right. And you're different by saying you're different sometimes and just showing up every day. How many people do that? If you have that mentality, oh man, only one in six million. Now what the fuck you doing?
Starting point is 00:26:58 If that's what you're thinking about and you're not thinking about the other things, then okay. Yeah, I agree, 100%. So, yeah man. Yeah, I agree, 100%. Yeah, man. Yeah, I wonder if it'd be worth setting up a GoFundMe for Shane and having the fans put some money in.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Give it a dollar. I don't know what the answer is. I would do it. Does that help? Like if, and I heard he's doing better, but it's like, does that help you like if yeah, I heard he's doing better, but it's like You know, does that solve the problem now you're putting band-aid over, you know, I Don't mean to change there's but I'll tell you what I do do for my brain
Starting point is 00:27:36 Magic mine well should the UFC just give fighters magic Well, I I mean if you want to cure some issues. Not CT though right? Not CT. Can we make that claim? I don't think so. But this is a mental performance shot. I'll tell you that much. If I want to get into a sense of flow. I mean. I'll tell you what you know what I do if you know what I do right now? Yeah. If I'm worried about CT and I'm worried about all this stuff. Yeah. I go to TransSaintCompany.com slash Brennan Shop. I get on TRT. Yeah. Peptides. Yeah. And then for the old nog, which they have peptides for. You want some neutral benefits.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yup. You go to what? I take those peptides and then I also go to magicmind.com and I take both of those. Dude, you will solve cancer. Get some mental clarity, decrease some stress, feel present, get you in a flow state, takes away distractions. I see Brian, I wish Brian took that before we start talking fighting because he thought McFarland was fighting this weekend and he thought Donald Cerrone was
Starting point is 00:28:25 fighting middleweight division. And I was forgetting stuff. Yup. Yeah. Watch this. Boom. Now you get your facts right. Dude, I forgot Alexander Volkanovsky's name.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I couldn't even remember his name yesterday. And I didn't remember, it didn't come to me. Oh wow. I had to look it up. It's tough. That's, that's an issue. Yeah. Oh wow. I had to look it up. It's tough. That's an issue. Yeah, you have CT.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah. So, yeah, I've got some brain. Would you let your kids, Sonaz and Chin, would you let them fight or play tackle football at a young age? Go ahead, Sonaz. That's a tough one. It depends on how they're built. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 If my kids were built like Tiger, I would. My son's not built like that. My son's built like Brian Kellan. I mean, having worked with athletes. He's built for kicking, dude. Remember, your son's built for dancing, you said. My son's built for dancing. Dancing, too.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Now, a guy like me should be dancing. A guy like me should not be running into other Samoans like that. What would you do, Samoans? Let's say you found a man, and he was a big dude, and your kid came out, and he was, you know, thicky. Yeah. You'd let him play.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah. If he had the body for it. And if he really wanted it. I mean, I've worked with athletes so long. I've seen CTE. I've read the practice, like pros initiative. I see all of that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I do think at a younger age, let him tackle, but update the pads, update the helmets. Yeah. Something. It's different now too, like there's a lot of regulations in play. They're not hitting like I used to. I had a really interesting experience,
Starting point is 00:29:50 I thought about you, about how there are levels physically in men. No, there's a guy I did some rolling with, and he's a black belt, and he's so strong to me, and he's so fucking tough. And then a guy we talked about who was a fighter squashes him like a bug, which I can't, I can't even believe, but that guy's about his size.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But I was like, he does? Cause you squashed me so hard and you feel so strong that that guy does that like crushes you. And then I remember that my friend, Brendan Schaub squashed that guy. And then I said to my buddy, the guy, I go, you know, I saw Schaub absolutely murder him, like tap him like every 20 seconds. And he goes, what?
Starting point is 00:30:37 I go, yeah. He goes, are you serious? I go, no, I saw it with my own eyes. I was there, you were in the room. And he goes, that dude is, and I go, no, he's 270, and there's a huge difference, but when you're skilled, and that's funny because if you look at guys who are super strong, or people talk about Conor McGregor,
Starting point is 00:30:55 I don't think, as good as Conor McGregor is, I don't think people realize what would happen to Conor if he tried to roll with you. Be tough, yeah. Not tough. No, not be tough, it'd be a murder. And it's awkward for you, but it's so interesting to me because I know really tough guys
Starting point is 00:31:11 who feel really big and strong to me, and then I always forget, it's like, oh yeah, but- Your boy. Yeah, my boy. Your boy. My boy at 270 or whatever, especially now on TRT. I'm 240 now, yeah. Are you 240?
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah. 250, but like, they forget. I forget. It's because I bullshit all the time. You bullshit all the time and you're super sweetie sweet, but it'd be a murder. It'd be a fucking, and I know current fighters now who don't want that smoke because if you get a hold of them, it's gonna be a very bad situation for their necky poos. Because you're going for their, I think you're going for their necky poos if you have to.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Right? There's gonna be some cranking going on. That's a problem. Sometimes you gotta pull that card out. I pulled it out. I pulled it out because the guy was waxing poetic on the guy and I didn't want to say anything. And I go, I gotta mention something.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Oh yeah, real quick everybody. I know somebody who put a dress on that guy in a wig. Well yeah, I had this, I didn't even debate arguing with this guy and my DM's about off-roading and he kept like sitting, you know, just poking the bear and I was like, oh man, guy, and my DM's about off-roading. And he kept like, you know, just poking the bear. And I was like, ah man, you keep saying dumbass, dude. You say, I'll see you at the race. We feel the same energy, let me know, dude. We can figure it out.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Why are you doing this? Because I'm going to grab you, and all of a sudden I'm going to get all bam bam on you. Yeah, please don't. I'm going to get, all of a sudden you're going to go, oh no, oh, oh, it to go, you're going to go, oh no. Oh, oh, there's a, it's just, you're, you're an actual real heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You're a, you're a big boy. Through and through. You couldn't get down to 205. I was, I was with Anthony Smith and I, and I'm looking at Anthony, I go, dude, you're in such good shape and I go, what are you weighing? It goes about 235. I go, there's not a lot for you to get down to 205.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's gotta be very hard. He goes, it is dude, because I'm 235 and I'm fucking, like he's just couldn't be, and you couldn't get down to 205. It would be an impossibility. I would die. You would die. I would be shaking under you guys.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I remember you trying, you were playing with the idea. I got to 226. And that was like. And you had to eat a piece of cheese because you were about to faint. I ate lettuce and then I literally did jitsu six hours a day. Yeah. I could not do 26.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And it just didn't work. I can't do it. I can't do it. You were shaking. Not cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah. It's interesting. It's interesting to walk around like that. Yeah. Yeah. To the guys that I look at it who are, you know, just absolutely very, very strong. They're, they're, no,, just absolutely very, very strong. They're, they're, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah. I got to, got to, got to wrap them up a little bit. Just change the subject. Grappling especially for you. Yeah, I got it. Who, who did you have trouble with grappling? Like there, there were guys, cause I know you rolled with some, I know you did some, you had some heavyweight, those guys, those guys are a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:34:02 But I know you had, I know you, you you you you you gave certain gold medalists in the Olympics who were judo guys? I know you gave them the what for deal what for and they were heavyweights You gave them the what for I know for a fact you've given Olympic alternates who were Big broke him. Yeah, I know that you gave them the what for. Broke them where their wives told me to take it easy on them. Yeah I know. I know you've done some of that.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I know you've done some snap down cranky cranks where they were like, fuck, and they were out for a long time. Wait, what's your question dude? This is not something. Have you had any, who gave you the what for? Who gave you, wrestling wise, took you down, beat you up? Oh yeah. Carlin was tough.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Wrestling wise, Carlin was tough, Bobby Lashley was tough. Carlin was tough in the beginning because you hadn't gone down the jujitsu rabbit hole. Yep, and then we separated for a little while and then we got back together and he shot in and I tapped him out. Yeah, yeah, because you fell in love with Jiu Jitsu. Loved it, yeah, still do.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And your arms are, you don't have T-Rex arms, you got some long arms, you got some anacondas on you. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you, you fell in love with it. And your arms are, you don't have T-Rex arms. You got some long arms. You got some anacondas on you. Yeah. Yeah. They're made for choking. Made for choking. I've like this weird dent in my forearm. That's like perfect for Darce jokes. That Darce is awful. God went, let's give him the Darce. Yeah. The old Darce is awful. Not so much brain. Give him the Darce. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Darce. Ohst and oh hold on Darston big black dick. Yeah No, no, not kidding. I'm just ours. I can't give you that. I'm giving you a lot of love for your cranking
Starting point is 00:35:32 I appreciate it. You're jiu-jitsu, but that's it. Uh, dude, how about I put on? What's his name? I Freed that forget the character's name off monstersers Inc. Randall. Randall. I put on a Randall costume this morning. Yeah. I went to the gym at 5 a.m. Then I rushed back to wake the kids up as Randall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I thought it'd be all exciting for him. Basti was scared shitless. It did not go according to plan. And he joined up to take a picture because I was like, watch this. And when I went in the bus, he's like, oh my god, it's a big purple My god, he's like, oh my god. I'm like no, no, it's dad. It's Randall and Tigers. Okay. I'm like, hey, man Everyone be fucking my two and a half year old doesn't like when I wear my wife Peter like my tank top Yeah, no one does. Yeah, he's like he's like I don't like that shirt
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's like a dog that's been abused by somebody who smokes and you come in with a cigarette and they growl my son's like I don't like that. I can take that off. What the fuck is with this like it? Yeah, he just doesn't like this Randolph It's lit math. I was surprised my brush back. I'm all sweaty. I do it. They were not Scared the shit out of oh, it was a disaster. Yeah, it's not the way they want to start off their Wednesday morning No, I thought be fun. Noall, dude, Monsters Inc. But I'm 6'4". I'm enormous and then you put the suit on, I'm even bigger. You're enormous.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Oh, my baby was like, holy shit, there's a giant lizard robbing our house. It's in my story. Look at Bossy's face. Also, why do you have black paint on your hands? That's what you came in as? Yeah. Oh yeah, that's what you came in as? Yeah. Oh yeah, that's scary. Look at Bossy there, trying to be cool for the pictures mom took, but not thrilled.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Not thrilled. Well that's a little scary, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're like, that guy's coming in to eat us. That's T, I was trying to calm him down, but I was like, it's dad, man. Why, he got scared too? All of them, it's everybody. Joy and I was scared, it was a disaster. I also came in the house at 5 a.m. Dressed as a lizard, you know from the gym is disaster
Starting point is 00:37:29 But I've paid all over my hands cuz I'm doing my garage. Look at my I look like a legit fucking oh my god Yeah, no, everyone was terrified. It was a disaster. I was actually scared here. Oh, dude. He was that's me calming him down Like no, dude. It's all good. It's your dad is Randall Yeah, he's bedridden my monster ink and I don't know how to do his voice either. You know, so it's a disaster I took good. Hey everybody. That's so funny. Oh disaster Give tiger a year probably beat me up. No, he's so big tiger. Look at him. So big Yeah, we're at my ways about as much as I do. Yeah 100-some 102 pounds 103 pounds hundred three pounds. What what?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Hey At eight there's dude his ass and legs. He got from his mama. They're fucking he that's where all his power comes from baseball He's gonna he's John Kroc. He's gonna have to he's big poppy. I need to put my keto but He's got him in Basti. I gotta give bunk beds for his birthday. They can't share a bed cuz he's so big His mom was out of town. I let him sleep with me. I'm like, well I got to give him bunk beds for his birthday. They can't share a bed because he's so big. His mom was out of town, I let him sleep with me. I'm like, well, I had to leave. I'm like, hey dude, it's you and me sharing a bed. He's star fishing, he's big legs.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I'm like, no dude, we're both running hot. Well, I'm so used to grabbing my son and my kids. I grab him and I'm like, I got my hands full. I got the old hands full. I mean, tickle him, he was like, ah, he like throws his elbow. I'm like, ah, what the fuck. He went to the, we're at this birthday party. They're all in the pool, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:50 And I just look over and there's like seven kids just on him. He's just going like this with the ball, walking through the water. I'm just okay. Just, yeah, we got the meat head. Yeah. It was so funny. My, my son was, uh, there was a kid in our neighborhood, it was like this, who was built like a tank
Starting point is 00:39:10 and just never got cold, rough as shit, and just stronger than everybody, back muscles. And my son would be sitting there, it's just like he'd been in the pool for a little too long, shaking just like his dad, and with his long neck and stuff, and this kid just fucking watered. Come on, let's go!
Starting point is 00:39:27 Oh my God. Just hurting you by accident too. Just then started throwing the ball at people's faces like at 100 miles an hour. He hurts his brother all the time. Like, hey, hey, hey, fucking, hey Lenny, can you chill out on the four year old? Yeah, hey Lenny.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Like they were playing football, they played tackle football in the backyard, and bossy's like, T here and fucking hey Joe, Montana Can it yeah for Boston, right? Yeah, but Boston's gonna be his own monster. But like T. Yeah T who's bigger is Boston gonna be very no T although bossy's foot is same size as these now his foot's the fucking like this. So we'll see then you got some couple thickies Yeah, well, I'm T. Hit his first home run. I looked at John. I went we'll see. You got some couple of thickies. Well, I'm T hit his first home run. I looked at John, I went, we got one.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I just walked over to her and went, we got one. Cause you know, I don't sit with the team. You're a baseball dad. Oh dude, nothing better. Kevin, Kevin is always like Bren's turning into a major baseball. Yeah. Yeah. I love Kevin.
Starting point is 00:40:19 He's the best. He sent me bats for the kids. He's the best. Absolutely. It's great, man. Kevin's got those guys that he never calls you for anything. You know, he's just always offering help. Great guy. He's the best. He's got a, he's got, and Kevin's got a great, he's got a great baseball like program. Big time. Yeah, I love Take Tiger Town. He's got huge people too. Oh yeah, big boys. One of his
Starting point is 00:40:38 guys right now is playing for the Yankees. Oh yeah. Anytime the team's in town, he's like, you want tickets? Two of my guys are on the team. Yeah. Oh, Chin, remember how you're telling me about stories about pit bulls attacking kids and stuff? Yep. So I was like, hey, Chin's not wrong. He goes, I've owned pit bulls. He goes, Chin's not wrong. Sends me this article from a few weeks ago, this four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's the exception. Pit bulls are great. This four-year-old, yeah, the pit bull. Since a puppy had been with a girl, she's a four-year-old girl, was in the pool. Parents went to go get a towel, and the pit bull hit her in the been with a girl, she's a four year old girl was in the pool. The parents went to go get a towel and the pit bull bit her in the armpit, killed her. Oh God, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:41:10 They're like, you just want, you might want to chill out. But they were also saying, this guy's a breeder. He's like, he's like, Cal's a hundred percent right. Like I get why you want to miss the whole puppy phase. He's like, you gotta be careful when, if they didn't come up around puppies. He's like, they're gonna be fine for a while. He's like, you just never know because when they're puppies,
Starting point is 00:41:28 they can establish the pecking order. But when you just input them in and they're that strong, I just don't feel comfortable with it. I'm the same way. I've been telling you that. I slept on it, I know, I slept on it. And I think what he's a breeder and what he's saying is, there's this thing.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Has to be a puppy, he said. But I just, you know, you're always like, ugh. He goes, he goes, Six month old is fine. Like if it's six months, I don't mind. If they're young enough, but he was saying, he goes, if it wasn't a bully breed to a certain point, he's like, if it was like a lab or something,
Starting point is 00:41:57 yeah, you should be fine. He goes, but I know you like bully breeds and tough dogs. If you can do that, it has to be a puppy. Let the kids grow up with the dog and they're gonna have fun with it. He's like, it has to be a puppy. Let the kids grow up with the dog and they're going to have fun with it. He's like, it has to do that. He goes, otherwise you bring in this fucking psychopath of the street. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:10 You know, he's like, he goes, shit happens. He goes, and he goes, and it might be fine for four or five years, but when it does happen, it happens, dude. Yeah. Um, I said, you ride dog. Yeah. I think, I think his, you know, if I'm going gonna do it, I gotta bite the bullet and get a puppy. We'll get a four month old, five month old,
Starting point is 00:42:29 six month old, so that you already know, and then, but it's still a puppy. It's a facility. Or you get a 14 month old. I mean, 14 year old, who's on its last leg. Yeah, just an old, old, can barely walk. Kids are like, this dog sucks.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Both my sister's dogs are that way. Both my sister's dogs, one's a bullmastiff. He's got the worst arthritis. They gave him a bunch of cortisone shots because he's done, but he can barely walk. He's just like, he's literally a cripple. And then she's got a 15 year old blind pit bull. And she's, yeah, she's just like. So many people have reached out, which shout out to everybody
Starting point is 00:43:00 help, trying to help out with the dog. This guy reached out from the UK, he goes, dude, check it out, mate. I'm going to breed it. You can have the one of the first puppies. It's the biggest dog in the world. It's 188 pounds. Bull Mastiff. This thing's so big.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I'm like, no, that's not first of all, they live about 15 minutes. Yeah. About eight years. And then they have so many problems. But there's, there's micro bullies. There's a mini bully. Like there's so many cool dogs I haven't even heard of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Dope shit. Our boy AG, right? AG, Gregory Favone, Toehold. AG is breeding ball pythons. Dude. I'll give my kid one of those. Bro, he's got, I used to have ball pythons, but they have so many different colors now.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And it's just unbelievable. They're the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life. But you don't want one. No. The fuck you doing the fucking do it. Sorry. Get your kid a pet snake No, I want tiger got bit by a snake at the pet store. Yeah, the guys like it Tell you the cat pad the guys like yeah, sure Boom tag goes. Oh shit. My friend got bit by a tarantula right in front of me stung by one No, I guess bit it got bit. Yeah hurt bit, hurt. It's like a bee sting. She said I was like, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:44:06 But they don't do venom. Well, it just depends. It was a giant hairy tarantula. You don't worry about the hairs. Yeah, no thanks. I don't like that shit. So, Chin, you were right about the dog, buddy. No, no.
Starting point is 00:44:19 My point about the pit bull is like- It's better to be safe. Yes, that's it. It's better to be incredibly safe. I literally said- Even if I want to get joining an avenue, okay It's the chief fucking someone sent her that story. I'm fucked. Oh, yeah, so I'm like, ah But I said on the last episode. I'm like, I've never been bit by a pit bull never never I've been bit by German Shepherd Yeah other dogs a bite, but I'm saying if a pit bull bites me
Starting point is 00:44:41 That's enough enough for me to like, if I have kids and I know your kids are kind of squeamish around dogs sometimes, just don't risk it. People think I hate pit bulls. Like no, I've never been, they're lovely to me. You could get a, they'd be the best, pit bull is the best dog in the world to me. But any bully breeds the best dog in the world. If you get as a puppy and it comes up around the kids, dude, you are, no one will touch those kids.
Starting point is 00:45:12 When King Corso's puppies and they grow up with them, the family, the loyalty, the protection, the love, it's nothing better. Pete Slauson You know what dogs are like that are the Anatolian shepherds. Those dogs, those mountain shepherds. Jared Slauson Anatolian shepherds. Pete Slauson But they shed, right? Pete Slauson Yeah, I mean, bring it up, but that's – Jared Slauson See, I got a checklist, dude. They can't shed everywhere. That's why I like bulls. Pete Slauson You can't have one. They're giant. Jared Slauson Yeah, I mean, bring it up. But that's- See, I got a checklist, dude. They can't shed everywhere.
Starting point is 00:45:25 That's why I like bully breeds. You can't have one. They're giant. But those dogs are- See, I like giants. See that dog? See that dog? Oh, he's cool. No one.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Take a look. The one all the way. Go to the right. That thing right there, no one is going near a kid. That's bossy. That kid scared me. No one's going near a kid. And I would trust those dogs.
Starting point is 00:45:39 If you've grown up with them, I trust the shit on you. You don't look like you shed too much. Those are amazing dogs. You have to get the right one from the right breeder, but they're amazing. These people, like, Utah hit me up, North Cowl, like so many micro bullies, all sorts of shit. Look at that thing. Look at that thing. Yeah. It's a horse. Big ol' dick on him. You know what I just thought of right now?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Those two guys, the Las Vegas... St. Friggin' Roy? St. Friggin' Roy. With the lion or the lion, they raise him as little cubs and the Tigers get a tiger though what I'm saying exactly so even someone even said that or someone like researched it and said they was trying to save him from something but he just no rip was that what happened was he apparently fell in front of it yeah and when you fall in front of a tiger so the instincts kick in the mistake I guess the make he made was not letting the tiger take him somewhere.
Starting point is 00:46:27 But here's the problem. When a tiger bites you in the back of your neck, that area is, you're not living from that. Yeah. Yeah. But he survived. Yeah. So there we go.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Pros and cons. And he was a survivor. But I think if I got a puppy, again, it's so much work on me. I just got to figure out what the time management of it, but if I'm going to do it, I, it has to be a puppy. I don't have a kid. I don't even have a kid. So I don't know the love you have for your kids.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I'm sure it's the most love that you've ever felt in your life. But just imagining me having a kid, and even if I have a little pit bull as a baby, I'm not doing that. Not even a baby? No, no, no, no. I disagree. I would have a friendlier dog in the beginning, so he understands how to treat a dog. I see what you're saying, Jay. I've been, no, no. I disagree. I would have a friendlier dog in the beginning so he understands how to treat a dog. I've had pits my whole life.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Me too. And how were they, Brian? Great. There was no issues at all? Zero issues. Zero. But as long as they're a puppy. Now, you get a rescue.
Starting point is 00:47:17 You get a rescue. You don't know the trauma they've been through. Certain things might trigger them. And maybe it doesn't happen the first year or the fifth year, but when it does, you got problems. Yeah. So Brian, you had an issue with a dog before that. I remember this. My dog was, my had a rescue dog that was a problem dog when I rescued.
Starting point is 00:47:29 What kind of dog? A little, little, little mix, like a corgi mix, but he was so awesome. Corgi? Corgi is hilarious. He was the best. He was the best. But he was a problem dog. Like he, he, he would bite people all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah. But he'd be like, like he just had a lot of self respect and if you gave him crap, shit. You don't want that though. But he was a little guy and he was the best dog. Those dogs are awesome. I'd love one of those. What about like a shepherd?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Like an Australian shepherd? They have a lot of energy? I grew up with an Australian shepherd. My dad has two of them. Bring up this dog. I like bully dogs. Bring up Australian shepherd. No, those are stupid. No, I'm sorry. Bring up Australian this dog. I like bully dogs. Bring up Australian Shepherd. Nah, those are stupid.
Starting point is 00:48:07 No, I'm sorry. Bring up Australian Cattle Dog. That's the best dog you can buy. These are good. That's the best dog. That's the smartest fucking dog on the planet. I mean, those are, and they'll protect your house. Like you don't even know.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I mean, you get a good male, but they need a job. They're like blue healers, right? I like his ears. They are basically like pit bulls, but shepherds type in micro bully you ever seen those dogs, bub Yeah, they're cool smart. I like their eyes. Oh my I go in there one color maze two different colors. Oh Dude, this is so many genetic issues. Yeah, they do their bread there. Oh my god That's how you get See that teacup micro bully. It's so funny. Look at its arms. They have issues. Yeah, the runs mate and that's how you get them. See that teacup micro bully? It's so funny. But look at its arms. They have issues.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah, they have a lot of problems. Not a good dog to have. Yeah, we don't want problems. No, you don't want that dog. But that right there is adorable as hell. Cute though. It's cute, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:59 It's like a pit bull and bulldog. Man, I like that Australian Cattle Dog. That's my favorite dog. I want a male. See, I like Mastiffs. I like, you know, I like all that shit. See that That's my favorite dog. I want a male. See I like Mastiffs I like you know, I like that shit You know strong bear. They're so strong They they can do everything they can do everything
Starting point is 00:49:14 Badass little fuckers. I tell you what you can borrow Ichabod for a weekend. It's too small. I Worry about Ichabod cuz he's so small that if I was stepped in a certain direction I'm also like step on his leg and break it. But if I stepped on him, he would die. He's too quick You guys can't step on him or Barnabas. Don't worry you bar them Yeah, man. I don't know. It'd be great. What do you got Jim? Oh Let's just go with Sinaz's But yeah This just got released guys Mike Perry got arrested for an apparent
Starting point is 00:49:46 DUI and he was using some slurs. This is the most Mike Perry headline ever. I was gonna say yeah he was calling the cops gay slurs. What? What? The guy uses the n-word freely? No, not anymore. No. Is there? There it is. but he uses it not in the prejudice way You know the speed limit through there Okay, when you come off of a 50 on the citrus tower it's 30, you know how she were doing? Yes, so that little stretch till you get the hooks is 30. I'm not trying to argue with you about it, but you're telling me you didn't know. So it's six minutes long. Do you want to just get to the, do you know where it's at? Do you hear me? Mike's not answering. Something going on? We can just read what he says. Yeah, he basically says they're effing mad.
Starting point is 00:50:48 F this. F blank couple of blanks. He was drunk. He was drunk. Listen, Mike Perry is Mike Perry. He knew no wrong in my book. The kids weren't in the car, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:04 No, I think it's just his girlfriend, but he did refuse to do the field sobriety test. Yeah, that's smart What did he call him not and see it the effort but for gay derogatory backward, yeah But you're here They know exactly. I am they're effing mad F these F these maggots maggots, maggots. Yeah. I mean, uh, he was drunk. I, I give Mike Perry a pass. I think Mike Perry's, uh, not a bad, he's not a bad guy. He's all right. Go easy on him. Not a bad guy. Oh, the guy who's the face of bare knuckle boxing uses the F word. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:42 He's just a little, what else? Mike's a little salty when he gets drunk little salty when he gets drunk you know the bigger offense is probably like getting in car and drunk and you can't do that and glad he got stopped and he's not why she didn't drive she might have been more white girl he was vouching for him so it's vouching voucher no he's fine officer okay well we can't I'm this is a tough one after a six-year I think it was hiatus guys the Victoria's Secret fashion show came back last night yeah yeah still fatties well
Starting point is 00:52:12 I'm gonna let chin show you this is good you know because because they they had the best-looking women in the world they used to have the angels the best of all time you to be a Victoria's Secret model you had to be. Not anymore though. Like Sports Illustrator, Victoria's Secret, it's now.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I know, yeah, I know, because there's no such thing as beauty. Let's not conform to toxic beauty standards. But they're selling so much more magazines, right? Okay. Yeah. Listen to me right now, guys. Can we take a break, Brian? Because, dude, you're ignorant about your wiener, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:41 You're taking those gas station pills, you're taking prescription pills, you got all those side effects, you're ignorant about your wiener health. You want that thing those gas station pills. You're taking prescription pills. You got all those side effects. You're ignorant about your wiener health. You want that thing firm. You want it healthy. You want it backed by science. You want it all natural. I'm talking about joy mode.
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Starting point is 00:53:35 That's tryjoymode.com slash fighter for 20% off back by science all natural. Your wiener will thank you and so will your girl. Later. Kay Moss, looking good. How old is she will thank you. And so will your girl. Later. Kay Moss looking good. How old is she now? Still got it. My age? I don't know. Saw her in LA.
Starting point is 00:53:51 She's taller. She's tall. Saw her in Venice and I was like, damn, you're a tall woman. She's still doing it. Looking like a dusty angel. She's still, still a little dusty angel. Still doing the damn thing.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I'd like to see some. Any more pictures? I've gone down. Yeah. Uh, you know, Gigi Hadid came back, Cher performed. Hey, can you slow down a bit? Well, she wants me to go here. No, no, I want you to keep going down.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Gigi's cool. Further than this? Yep. Yep. Who's that? Oh, no, she's cool. She's the plus size model, but she's banging. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 So see what I mean? But also not Victoria's Secret worthy. No. So that's the big debate, right? It's not a debate. Yeah, no, no, this is no debate. Yeah. No, this is two on 24. We have eyes. That's not a debate. She shouldn't be up there. Now. Is she attractive? Absolutely. Is she Victoria's secret angel attractive? Absolutely not. There's a criteria. You don't meet,
Starting point is 00:54:42 doesn't mean you're not attractive lady. Yeah. We're not trying to hurt your feelings. Just like if you put me in a lineup, I'm not Mr. Olympia. I shouldn't fucking be up there. I don't have what it takes to be up there. She doesn't have what it takes to be up there. She's cool. She's hot. You ain't Victoria.
Starting point is 00:54:59 It's Victoria. Back in the day, Victoria's secret? What? No. You know, my thought with that is like things were different back in the day, Victoria's Secret? What? No. You know, my thought with that is like, things were different back in the day, right? Things were better. Things were different.
Starting point is 00:55:11 You're, okay. Well, they were different. No, things were more honest. Yeah, there were certain standards that things upheld to. Now we've changed that, I understand that, but let's not villainize. We're pretending, we're pretending to. Yeah, I just don't believe in villainizing
Starting point is 00:55:22 the people that were running by the standards at the time. Like, you know, like getting rid of this show Like are you guys kidding me? My grandmother loves the Victoria's Secret fashion show. But also the reason why Victoria's Secret used to be such a fancy title is because you were the top ten most beautiful women in the world Now it doesn't mean much. Right and if you take away the competition See the one thing I love about sports is they haven't gotten to that yet. There's still the best team wins. You know, oh you're real popular? Oh you got a big agent? You signed a huge contract? We don't care.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, well, Tony went 0-4-4. We don't care. They want the Dodgers-Yankees to win. That'd be great. Biggest ratings ever. It might be the Mets versus the fucking Guardians, which would eat all the cock. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, you know, it's like, amazing career, but doesn't care. Football's like, Hey, you know, if you're not perfect, you know, we're moving on. What else you got, Jim? Uh, I found this about you. It was on sports illustrated. We talked about this earlier,
Starting point is 00:56:15 but they did an article on a shop show the other day about the CT stuff. Yeah. And they were just, you know, saying, they kind of agree with you. And it was kind of cool to see that. That's cool. Yeah. Good for you, buddy. You know, that was your friend, man. Yeah, that's your friend.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Yeah. Okay. This one's kind of sad. Um, MMA legend passed away 38. He also dated Demi Lovato. I know a lot of people know that. That's how I know. That's kind of, yeah. I say legend. I was like, of people know that. That's how I know him. Yeah. I was kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You say legend, I was like, I mean. He's amazing, but he's not a legend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, you're a Victoria Secret in this thing. Oh, okay. That's like saying she's a Victoria Secret model. He's not a legend. Rest in peace, though.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Okay. What happened? The cause of death is unknown. Yeah, usually. His last post was in front of a Gracie Gym, so. Yeah. That's terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:04 He probably had some problems. Yeah. That's terrible. Yeah. And probably had some problems. Yeah, so that one we don't know about. Demi posted a photo of his Jiu Jitsu studio less than 24 hours ago. Keep going down? Here's Demi Lovato. I'm pretty sure I trained with him.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Did you? Yeah. At Rain or at Gracie. Big boy. She's short, man. Oh. What's Demi Lovato up to? Being awesome. I hate her.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Really? Oh, wow. Remember how all the stuff that she's putting out? Like, oh, yeah. She just wants attention. She's a mess. Yeah. Like, album come out, pronouns are they, them?
Starting point is 00:57:39 You're like, God damn. I don't like her. And then she went back to being like a she, her. Yeah. Cause it was all that stuff. Too much to explain She'd be like breaking an ass when I have album coming out I like dick again and then sales go through the roof right my god just she can say
Starting point is 00:57:53 Amazing singer, but she sucks kind of so as a person, but yeah, so you don't need to do that shit. Yeah We'll give her a pass though When you can see a little hardcore kid, that's why I like her. She likes like super heavy music. You wouldn't believe it, but yeah. She's what? What do you mean? She likes like hardcore music. Like Knock Loose and... She likes anime and...
Starting point is 00:58:14 Do you think for a second that maybe she says she likes that stuff? No! She'll get more attention? No, no, no, no, no. She's done a video with Ice Nine. She's into it. Okay. Yeah. It's tough to know what she's into because so much shit is fake, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:26 She's like, oh, I'm a Dodgers fan. I'm like, really? You know? Show hay. Yeah. I got a conspiracy theory. Oh, Tony's been my favorite. You're like, really?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Right. What's your conspiracy? Go to this one. So Google Maps has discovered this mysterious little door in the middle of Antarctica on their maps If you got to where Santa lives, I don't know you tell me you know, like if you scroll down there it is. What is that? Well, we do know that in Antarctica they do have military installations and things like that. Yeah they do have military installations and things like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Probably owned by the Chinese, if I'm being honest. Yeah, but there's, there is activity there. Yeah. But, or, or. It's tough to live there. Or it's a, it's a place where when you explore Antarctica, they have caches of supplies that
Starting point is 00:59:18 they keep in certain areas. I don't know, B. That's pretty expensive. I don't think that's the, but it could also be a portal to the center of the earth. There's that too. And it could be where the Illuminati meets, or, Could be where the Diddy's Freak Offs.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It's an ice structure. It's the Iceland Freak Off. Could be where Diddy has his Freak Offs. Some people are saying it's an iceberg that became grounded and is now stuck. Nonsense! And melting. It's a door!
Starting point is 00:59:43 It's a door where the people, where the Illuminati meet. It does look like a door! It's a door where the Illuminati meet. It does look like a door. Is this a place where people can walk to or is it too far off? An Antarctica's top. No, no, is it? It's simply ice flow around a solid subglacial obstacle. Says Google.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Influenced by melting and refreezing of ice. But if you don't believe it, go there, spend the money and tell me how it goes. And then FaceTime must let us know. Yeah, yeah, let us know right there and see if there's a door. Antarctica's pretty unforgiving. Yeah. So I watch a YouTube channel called Outdoor Boys. It's like a lawyer dad has kids. He
Starting point is 01:00:18 always does outdoor stuff. And he would build literal shelters like this in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. Yeah. So you think it's probably him? It's probably that guy. What's his name? That's why I asked Sanaz if this is like. So you think it's something like that, too? It's probably that guy. What's his name? That's why I asked Sanaz if this is like walking distance. If it's not walking, they give the helicopter drop through.
Starting point is 01:00:30 It's not walking distance, it's Antarctica, so yeah. I don't know, Brian, do you know exactly where that's at? Yeah, I do. Do you? What is it? That's on the pole, Baba, that's. No, anywhere it's at is in Antarctica. Even at the borders of Antarctica, you can't.
Starting point is 01:00:42 It's tough, yeah, it's like. The Arctic and Antarctica. So look it up on a map, on a global map, and you'll see. Antarctica, on a map. Now, it's not where we can chill. By the way, Antarctica, here's a trivia question. Is Antarctica the South Pole or the North Pole? South.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Did you say Antarctica? Which one did you say, though? Is Antarctica? Oh, you're saying we're Santa or the Arctic You can reach Antarctica by foot, so that's the thing Yes, you can visit and come on bright you and I didn't say you couldn't you said you couldn't reach it No, you can reach it, but you said you have to book airfare departure port No, you can reach it, but you better have a boat. It says you have to book airfare, departure, port. I won't even try to say it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Argentina since most expeditions leave from there. You won't need a visa, but you need to get permissions. So you can reach it by foot is what I'm saying. Look up wildlife on Antarctica. Polar bears, penguins. Wildlife on Antarctica. Polar bears, penguins. Or nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Watch this. Penguins. Seals, whales. Okay, or or or nothing watch this penguins Mm-hmm seals whales a lot of penguins. Yeah orcas Are there no polar bears or a south but do you notice how there are no? Black bears polar bears. Yeah polar bears are only in the South Arctic, right? They're in the Arctic. That's Antarctica. Bring up the difference between the Arctic. Are you saying Pam or Pan? Bring up the difference between Arctic and Antarctica.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It's a tough one, right? It's just important to know. It's super important. You know, these are things that we should all know. Well, I got to regurgitate this. Why do we need to know this? I got to regurgitate this to my kids. There are polar reasons with many differences, right?
Starting point is 01:02:28 The Arctic is an ocean basin surrounded by land, while Antarctic is a continent surrounded by ocean. So now that we know that, how does that help our lives? I'm sorry? The future. Well, you should know a couple things about the world. Yeah, I probably know way more stuff about other stuff than you do, and probably know way more stuff about other stuff
Starting point is 01:02:45 than you do, and you know way more stuff about other stuff than I do. But you have an aggressive block to anything to historical or geography. No. And that's not a good idea. No, I've memorized it, but then I filled in my brain with other stuff, and then it's scooted out.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah, temperature. Temperatures in the Arctic can vary, but it's not unusual for it to be over 50 degrees during the warmest month. That's news in Antarctica. The temperature can easily drop below minus 67. The lowest temperature on earth was recorded there minus 128. Oh, check please. But those penguins bear down, don't they?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Now, now I believe they're on opposite sides of the globe. They are, it's like this, right? It's like this. Santa lives here. Ants and ants. Polar bears live here. Santa doesn't really have to eat my polar bears, so he's up here.
Starting point is 01:03:37 That's how you remember it. Polar bears are down here. Then why do they show polar bears at the North Pole? Because polar bears are- They also show them drinking Coca-Cola. Because polar bears are- They love that. Because polar bears are in the Arctic. Yes, Arctic. And the Arctic bears at the North Pole? Because polar bears are in the Arctic. Yes, Arctic. And the Arctic would be the North Pole, and Antarctica is the South Pole.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Make sure I'm right about that. I think we all learned something here today. Where's the North Pole? The North Pole is the Arctic, and the South Pole is Antarctica. Watch this. Let's see if I'm right. South Pole is Antarctica. Watch this. Let's see if I'm right. The Arctic and Antara are located in north and south poles. North and south poles. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Located in northern, the Arctic is center of the North Pole. Okay. So the Arctic has the North Pole where Santa lives. South Pole, as I said. So Santa lives in the Arctic. The amount of knowledge Brian has. Let me ask you this. Why is it important to know where Australia is? No, this specific thing. So Santa lives in the Arctic. The amount of knowledge Brian has. Hold on, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Why is it important to know where Australia is? No, this specific thing. Why is it important to know where Africa is? It's the same thing. Here's what I'm asking, guys. You guys have kids, right? Would you rather have your kids know to be a hard worker, good singer, musician, whatever, or know these things?
Starting point is 01:04:42 That's not all. That's both. It's called both. It's called being educated. That's great, no, that's both. It's called both. It's called being educated. That's great, but you gotta choose. No, I don't have to choose. No, no, I have to choose. I don't have to choose.
Starting point is 01:04:49 You can't go well around a kid. You don't either. My point is like, why is it so important? My point is that is not at all. You can, yeah, but what's... My point is you should know why it's important to know the difference. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Nobody told you why it's important. I've been to Australia, it's amazing. Do I have to know it's not in Europe? Like, why? Why do I give a fuck? You do. Why? Because it Australia, it's amazing. Do I have to know it's not in Europe? Yes, you do. Why? Why do I give a fuck? You do. Why?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Because it has relevance to the world. Give me a reason why. Because if you're a low information person, It's not about stupid breath. If you're a low information person, you'll be ignorant and you'll be part of the problem, not part of the solution. Do you think I'm a low information, ignorant person?
Starting point is 01:05:17 I do. Oh wow. To your own. But you just admitted it. Ignorant? No, no, no, hold on, because I don't know the location or the hemisphere. But wait, wait, you've just admitted, you just said, why do I need to know this?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Why do you need to know where the Arctic and Antarctic, the North and the South go on that? Why do I? Same thing happened in Germany. The same reason you should know why Africa is a continent. Or why- She knows that. So, okay, why is Africa a continent? Why is Africa a continent?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Well, because it stands on its own. Okay, so then what? But Asia would be a continent too that's actually attached to Europe. What? Okay, so why do you need to know that though? Oh. Oh, dude, Brian, this is stuff that we learned in fucking elementary school, high school. Because for the same reason you want to know, for example, why one times one is equal to one.
Starting point is 01:06:07 In other words, there are certain base understandings about the world that give you perspective. And otherwise, you'll be otherwise... If I was super into geography and all that stuff, then I get it. Nobody's telling you to be super into geography. I'm not super into geography. There are certain things you should know about. That's all I'm saying. Fine. Give them a musical note. I'm not super into geography. I'm not super into geography. There's certain things you should know about. That's all I'm saying. Okay, fine. Give them a musical note.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah, exactly. So on those, the guitar has six strings. What are all those notes? Brian might know that. A, B, C, A, B, C. In order from top to bottom. G, G. There's a G. From top to bottom.
Starting point is 01:06:38 F, right? Is there an F for it? You don't know. So you know what you suck. You should know more about music. No, no, that's not true. Music history is important. No, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm aware. I'm aware of what that is
Starting point is 01:06:49 And i'm aware of why that was in australia with brendan. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on Jim watches I'm very aware though Of why music is important historically why music is important culturally why music is important, historically, why music is important culturally, why music is important as a form of expression. But if you don't know the details of the music, it's different. And the reason I know why it's important is because it informs out my life and makes my life more rich. Here, by the way. So wait, wait, hold on. Go ahead, finish. I also know, I also know enough to know what I don't know and why that's a liability. So for example, let me give you an example. what I don't know and why that's a liability. So for example, let me give you an example.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I think it's important in life to know why, for example, Led Zeppelin is astonishing as a group and, oh, I don't know. You know they copied a lot of their music, right? Whatever the case, that's also important. Did you know that? Yeah, I do, that's also important. They copied a lot of the blues. They're not astonishing anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:41 They copied a lot of the blues people that they looked up to. They literally stole songs from other artists. But that's also important to know. You didn't know that, did you? I did not know that. Of course I did not. Then why are they astonishing artists if they stole music?
Starting point is 01:07:52 They stole some of the riffs but made them actually pretty amazing. No, it's almost identical. You want to do this? Let's do it. I've done it. I've done it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Led Zeppelin's still an astonishing band that wrote original music. So they, they, they, but so what I'm saying is that I'm using them just to say, I know that Pavarotti was an
Starting point is 01:08:10 amazing singer. He was an amazing singer. And I know where he stands in the pantheon of opera singers. And the reason I know that he was able to hit that tenor note in Nessun Dorma and the reason it wasn't sung at the Met for eight years was because nobody else could do that. You know why I know that? Because it's, no, because it's- I want to hear that note. I'm gonna look it up and note. It's culturally, but it's culturally significant. Like, it makes my life more rich that I know the meaningful difference between things, and all I'm saying is that don't say why do I need to know this? The reason you need to know this is because it makes you less I don't need to I don't need it It's not benefiting my life. I know I need it make your life more
Starting point is 01:08:49 Of course if I'm interested in how I fucking learn more, but I don't need it But that's like saying you don't need to learn another language. I want to learn That I'd rather do that I need more hair I'll take that you know continents and like what the fuck tell you that much. Look at the freaking continents and be like, what the fuck? No, but Chin, that's basic education. Hold on, dosa dorma? First of all, it's really easy, Chin, yeah. First of all, Finn, it's really easy also
Starting point is 01:09:16 to fill in those gaps, super easy. Like you just learned it. Brian, so what do you think I'm doing? What's the North Pole? What is it? What the fuck? It's the Arctic. It's where Santa layers Brian. What's the South Pole? It's do you think I'm doing? What's the North Pole? What is it? What the fuck? It's the Arctic. It's where Santa layers, Brian.
Starting point is 01:09:26 What's the South Pole? Snowman. I'm gonna pee while you guys are arguing about the North Pole. You just learned it. And they're both ice casters. Okay, so Brian, how does that? You're ignorant, Jen.
Starting point is 01:09:33 You're stirring it up. Is this like super bad fucking content? I don't know what's important. No, it's important because it's actually really important because a lot of people feel the way you do. Why is it important to know who Mao Tse Tung or Stalin were? Why is it important? You know why is it important? Why is it important to know who Mao Zedong or Stalin were? Why is it important? You know why?
Starting point is 01:09:48 Because it actually has to do with where we are today. So if you want to know why you're standing where you are and where you come from, if you want to know who got you here, that's an important consideration. You're going way too deep with this. I don't need to know a fucking continent. Why? That question is an ignorant question. Hold on, Brent. That's you're going way too deep with this. I don't need to know a fucking continent. Yeah, why? The that question is an ignorant question. Hold on Brent. Oh, right. I've learned about music
Starting point is 01:10:11 No, no, I've learned that when I was in grade school, right and I and it just kind of like escaped me watches Okay, I learned a ton of you know a lot of my music watches. I'm gonna come to you and I'm gonna say this chin I'm gonna go like this. Who's your favorite country music star Tim McGraw who's the guy with talent that blows your mind Tim McGraw a ton, dude But who's just give me one person for fuck's sake fucking Chris Stapleton. Okay, so Chris table Yeah, if I came to you and said that this Joe Schmoe guy and I played you a song I can't think of anybody who sucks. Give me somebody who sucks. I don't want to say that Just give me somebody who's not that impressive Who's give me somebody who's really who I'm not that into yeah, who's huge and amazing is a Luke Bryan
Starting point is 01:10:49 But I'm just not into it Yeah, but I don't want to use him as an example because he's still town But but there are certain people if I came to you and I said this guy's more talented than Chris Tableton And I and I stuck to my guns and you would go you're fucking ignorant And you know why I'd say that because you'd be right because I don't know what I'm talking about Well, that's it. No, I would never say that cuz you don't you don't Think it you think you're not thinking about this. This is a dumb argument. It's not a dumb argument at all You're telling me why should I know what comments are no, no, okay. I should have worried it better
Starting point is 01:11:18 It's like I don't need to know that stuff cuz that's not a priority for yeah I have other things in my life that's going on that I can't make a musical music grind. No shit, but being educated in general about the world is a good idea. So you have to learn every single thing that's happened ever for the most time. It'd be nice if you knew what Africa was. I never said that.
Starting point is 01:11:36 But it's very easy to plug in certain holes, which I do all the time, and you should too. I do it all the time. There are certain things I don't know that are embarrassing, that I shouldn't know. But by the way, when I don't know that are embarrassing that I shouldn't know. But by the way, when I don't know, I just say I don't know. I don't like try to like move. Nobody's shaming you. What I don't like is when you say, I don't need to know that. What's
Starting point is 01:11:52 the point? And I'm telling you what the fuck the point is. The point is, if you don't and you say that, that's an ignorant thing to say. What you're doing is you're going way too deep into it. No I'm not. The problem with our election, the problem with our country is most people are low information voters. I'm not voting. And we vote in idiots.
Starting point is 01:12:10 That's the problem shit. Anyway, Bryce, right now, right now. And it affects our lives. Trump 2024. Let me ask you this, right now, right now. Right now, let me ask you this. Yeah. This is a podcast that's very important to you, right?
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah, somewhat. And what stuff is around this podcast that has to make this stuff happen? Audio, software, cameras, lenses. Do you know anything about these things? No, no. Then shut the fuck up. What stuff is around this podcast that has to make this stuff happen audio software cameras lenses? Oh, do you know anything about these? No, no, and shut the fuck. Yeah, this is your thing. No, no, no chance But you're missing my point. No, you're missing my point Why should I know as I know about cameras? No, dude, you should also know Why it's important to know a little bit about, I don't know, geography.
Starting point is 01:12:46 World War II. I think this is a little too far. Sorry, I did not. But Jim, it's important to know. We'll make it about you. It's important to know, to accept that there are certain things you should know, basic information about everything.
Starting point is 01:12:58 That yeah, and if you know basic information. I went to Australia with Brendan. We discovered so many different areas that people, like, yeah. So what are you arguing? Do I have to know it's in this particular area of this? It'd be nice. Why?
Starting point is 01:13:11 It'd be nice knowing that. Why? No, why is that so important, Brendan? You keep asking me why, and I'm telling you why. And you won't listen to the reason. I heard. You're asking me why, and I've told you why, but you keep saying, why should I know this?
Starting point is 01:13:24 And bringing up things like, you don't know about cameras. And I'm like, okay, why don't you ask me why? And if you would listen, I'm trying to explain. Because it will make your life more, it'll enrich your life. You'll see things you haven't seen before. It'll make you less blind to the world. It'll make you less, chin, chin, chin, chin.
Starting point is 01:13:44 It'll make you, when you educate yourself, I was a kid. Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim. Less racist. It'll make you, when you educate yourself, and I do this all the time for myself, all it is, is this. I'm gonna, let me just, I'll close this. Go for it, do your thing, man. The reason I try to educate myself on things like, I don't know, history,
Starting point is 01:13:57 is it gives me a little bit of a light in a dark room. It gives me a flashlight in a dark room. That's great. Because most of the world is, that's all it is. And I'm very blind, and I don't know a lot, but I know I don't know a lot. And what's fun is just to kind of give myself a flashlight and look in a couple of rooms. Never stop doing that. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Okay. That's great. And all of us know a lot less than we do know, right? Like all of us are ignorant. All of us. But it's kind of, I think it'll help your, you'll enjoy knowing things. If I'm interested in something, I'll just like. It enhances all of my.
Starting point is 01:14:28 It enhances all of my. Yeah. What is? It enhances everything. It enhances everything. All right, you know what? You're right, Brian. Can we hear the note?
Starting point is 01:14:35 What's the note? Is there a specific, you said no one else could hit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you know Barcelli's blind cheat? It's great, it's great. I'll play it for you. Watch this. Is this one? Barcelli.
Starting point is 01:14:42 This is, no one sleeps, Nessun dorma, okay? It's Puccini. It's like the most beautiful song. Watch this motherfucker sing this. Did he get in trouble? No, no. He probably did. No, he died.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Look it up. I will after this. Oh, watch this. Oh, chin hit that note, bitch. Yeah. A lot of people can do this I'll say the part you can hit it. I'll give you okay. Go for it. Yeah watch a thousand bucks Tell me when
Starting point is 01:15:17 Damn chin thinks he's Pavarotti. No, I just don't believe Brian Okay This is from motions 11. Did you know that, Chin? Huh? I should have known. You're ignorant and racist. Is there a note coming?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Yeah. He can hit a note nobody else can? Yeah. You should have gave him Mariah Carey. Watch this, ready? He's a big guy. Ready? Here it comes.
Starting point is 01:15:51 And I think in the theater in Sicily, careers were made because they hit this note and held it. Okay, we'll see. Is it coming soon or? Yep. I'm so sorry, but this music makes me sleepy, man. Does it? Yeah, I could fall asleep to this. It's nice. Yeah, it's beautiful This is a beautiful. I'm gonna fast forward to where you got it. It's coming out. Oh, don't remakes ready
Starting point is 01:16:15 First of all, you can't do that. Oh, okay. Well, it's this ready ready Wait, is the argument chingin here? Yeah, here we go. Here we go. Ready? That one nope Ready wait is the argument chink. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. Here we go Ready that one. Nope ready. Here it is There it is Sing good Yeah, I did it I Go ahead. You can hold that? Screw it. You say no one could even hit that note. You can't hit that note. And hold it.
Starting point is 01:16:51 You can do it! Yes! You did it! I couldn't hold it. You did it! No, Jinn, that's so hard. It's so hard. It's so hard. Like you're trying to hit the hardest note in opera But I can do that. Oh god. No, no, I just said no one could do it. I hit it for a second I didn't hold it though. Well, Jen, I can make a jump shot. There's different. No, there's different You know, there's baritones tenors. There's all those That's a really hard note. Do you know what baritones tenors and altos are? No. Yes, I do. Oh my tenor I just said to you He's a tenor and you would listen to my story beforehand and you would have known I said there wasn't a tenor they could find for like eight years at the Met who could do
Starting point is 01:17:32 that for a time. Now probably a lot of people can do it but back then. A little bit of a reach Chinn right? You can't sing like Pavarotti. No no actually he said no one can hit that note. But Chinn. The argument was no one can hit that note. By the way. I did it for a second chin now, hold on rewind Everyone's watching myself a little bit on opera. I know nothing about music But it makes my life richer because I can appreciate when I hear that song large man It's beautiful and it makes the world more beautiful. It makes me less ignorant about music, right? Your point Brian is like I you need to know about this like you don't need to know about this is something You don't need to know about this. Like, you don't need to know about this. This is something you're interested in, you're passionate about.
Starting point is 01:18:06 You don't need to know about this. Your life would be better if you did. You remain wistfully ignorant at your own peril. We all do. Sure, Brian. All of us do, true or false. Sure. I always say that myself.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I'm always like, I'm very ignorant to a lot of stuff. And you pay a price for it. You pay a price for being financially ignorant. I'm going to give this up, because I can't do this. But you're saying you need to a lot of stuff. And you pay a price for it. You pay a price for being financially ignorant. I'm gonna give this up, because I can't do this. But you're saying you need to absolutely know this stuff about poverty and the notes? No, you don't. It adds to your life, yes, of course.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Adding stuff adds to your life. Educating yourself in general is very important. No shit, Brian, you think education's good? That's all I'm saying, but you seem to be going, why do I need to know? No, the continent. I said continent and all that shit. And this is why you should take Andrew Tate's course online?
Starting point is 01:18:50 The Hustler University. Hustler U. Anyway, we disagree on that. And by the way, I apologize. We disagree on what? On what? What do we disagree on? On the need to know certain things.
Starting point is 01:19:00 The need. Not like the desire, but the need. I can live my life and do some amazing things without having to know exactly which country is in which area, which city is there. I don't need that. Right. Unless I visit, then if I visit, I'm researching.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You missed my point. You missed the whole point. You missed the whole point. And you can't sing like Paul Rodgers. You really did miss my point. I got out of hand. And I think you know what I'm talking about. In terms of just, it's nice.
Starting point is 01:19:25 To educate yourself is great, yeah, of course. And if you don't, a lot of times you'll pay a price for it. Okay, so what price am I gonna pay for not knowing? So if I'm financially illiterate, ignorant, I'm gonna pay a price for it. But you understand financial's a huge thing in my life. I have to know what's going on. Well, but I have paid a price for being financially ignorant.
Starting point is 01:19:40 What's the capital of Australia, Brian? Melbourne, true or false. But, Chen. Is it Perth? Australia, Brian? Melbourne. True or false. But, but, but, but, Chen... Is it Perth? I think it's Melbourne. Or it might be Perth. Canberra? Canberra. So Brian, you're a terrible person. You're, you should... You're ignorant, Brian.
Starting point is 01:19:58 You need to learn more. You need to study more. You can't sing like Pavarotti. Chen, Chen, you're missing my point. I know your point, Brian, but I'm saying we're going back and forth on this silly thing. No, you don't know my point. I do, Brian. Gin, you're missing my point. I know your point, Brian, but I'm saying we're going back and forth on this silly thing. No, you don't know my point. I do, Brian. No, you're missing my point.
Starting point is 01:20:08 To learn more about cultures and continents and everything else. You just said, do you know anything about cameras and what's the capital of Australia? What's the bird of Australia? You're arguing me out of the country. It's a gang gang cockaroo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:20 You're arguing in the wrong way. You should, it's very, very beneficial to your life to know as much as you can. Of course, Brian. I would love to know everything in the wrong way you should it's very very beneficial to your life to know as much as you of course Brian I would love to know everything in the world, but I don't have To learn you said why do I need to know where the continents are? Well, you should know where they are You didn't know what the capital was. So yeah, you got that wrong And you don't know what the national bird is a cockatoo game. What's that? What does that make you? But seriously, you didn't know what the capital was. So does that make you like it makes me aware that I don't know a lot of stuff No, okay
Starting point is 01:20:49 That's fine then what seem to be defending it and it's a little bit different It's a little bit different to not know the obscure capital of Australia when it's a city It doesn't even talks about versus a continent. I know something about and nobody talks about versus a continent or to know something about where Antarctica is. It's a little different to know, not know where Europe is versus Canberra, right? Some knowledge is rather obscure and not relevant, whereas other knowledge is rather relevant.
Starting point is 01:21:18 It just is, there is a difference. Okay, and by the way, the stuff that's relevant to you is relevant to you. What's relevant to me is what's what what is relevant to me? So let's not not judge each judge each other for not knowing certain Brian you called him an ignorant fuck. Yeah, we got pretty heavy. I didn't comment and then he called You call me there as fuck no, I didn't I said it's ignorant to to be no For the fans watching if you're walking around saying it's fine to not know this then you're that's an ignorant
Starting point is 01:21:48 He goes you call me ignorant. You say how about this? How about this? How about it's fine for me to not know cuz if I want to know about it I will just Google it research it visit the countries whatever but it's fine for me because I have other things I'm learning Yeah, by the way education people like I'm not educated. Hey, man It's it the only difference in somebody educated and somebody else He has they just spent more time learning about yeah Yeah, like there's plenty of people we're all ignorant to most of course, so there's no shame those music There's no shame in not knowing it. Yeah, I know
Starting point is 01:22:17 Brian's a body worship. I'm a body worshiper. I'm a body worship. Oh man, right Chins delusional there's a lot of shame I'm a bodyworsher. Oh man bright or chins delusional There's a lot of shame for not knowing shit and it's stupid because it's just literally like somebody speaks a language Well, you grew up with that language doesn't mean you're smarter. Why do I know John Mobley played at Kutztown State in Pennsylvania? I don't know. I think about it every day It's CTE. What are the things that you guys think about every day? Is there a question in your mind or a thought that you have every day? Do you think about a person every day?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Besides your kids, is there something you think about every day? What is it? I literally can't figure out how a camera works. How it can look at something and take that image and put it onto something else, it just boggles my mind. I think about it all the time. You're ignorant. You need to learn more.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I'm ignorant? I'm joking, I'm joking. It is weird. Isn't it amazing though, somebody figured that out? But isn't it a weird thing? The more you know, you should look into it. You do less ignorant.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Incredible. They unlock the secrets of the universe. Like put two lenses together. How about harnessing the electromagnetic field, where they took two different. I've never thought about that. I've never thought about that. I've never cared about that either.
Starting point is 01:23:23 They took two different metals and put it in a solution in like a Watery solution and it created a charge because somebody was like what is this thing? When I when I when I rub my feet on it on a carpet and I touch you what the fuck is that? What if we could harness that dude? How about there's a tractor? Hold up. How about some more exciting that boring stupid ignorant shit? How about there's tractor racing where they have? Seven or eight V8 engines all running together at the sauna that boring, stupid, ignorant shit. How about there's tractor racing where they have seven or eight V8 engines all running together at the same time. And they have like 18,000 horsepower.
Starting point is 01:23:52 I mean, I mean. Think about the engineering. I know it's stupid, but think about it. It's incredible. One engine. They have eight of them at the same time and they race every weekend. And they'll be like, yeah, 20,000 horsepower.
Starting point is 01:24:05 I know it's different. And they're every weekend. And they'll be like, yeah, 20,000 horsepower. But I know it's different. And they're good examples. But the engineer, for all the turbos, it's beautiful. And the engineer looks at it and goes, that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And the engineer goes, that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen because it's harmony. It took so much to do that. Think about that. But think how the engineering and how smart these guys are to fear and it all has to sink together and the pistons firing
Starting point is 01:24:31 The cylinders it's insane all at once That these are farm boys y'all are ignorant hearing you I'm ashamed. I don't even know the way I don't know shit about that, but I but I can be awed by it 9,000 horsepower. What? What? Three V12 engines all running at the same time. That's at 9,000. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 01:24:52 The stuff like that exists. Yeah, that's insane. Well, human beings do crazy shit. Look at the wheels on the back. And the guys driving, they'll catch on fire. It could blow up. The whole thing could blow up. They're so fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Tractor racing, sick. So now you're looking at that very differently than I am Yeah, it's to me. I'm saying I don't know shit about cars So you're looking at you see that and you see something you see a whole world I see big wheels and a fucking engine, but but yeah exactly but hold on was what my point We're all ignorant to everything. Yeah, I don't yeah. No, so so right now my thing is when I've been thinking out lately There's this guy Jake Jake It's a DMB inner coolers and to me it like it would be like the Mona Lisa So on the on the it's just so nuanced shit
Starting point is 01:25:31 But on the Hummer it has a coolant stack on the front and comes from the fact is black But like the JMB my guy Jake he makes them out of like steel and silver So when you open up the engine, it's three He makes them out of like steel and silver. So when you open up the engine, it's three silver stacks. It's the most gorgeous thing to me in the world, dude. Like I'm like, oh my God, that's so sick. Most people are like, that's stupid shit, dude. It's so cool.
Starting point is 01:25:56 My buddy breeds horses. He looks at a horse, I just see a horse. I swear to God, I'm like, I don't know, it looks like a horse to me. He goes, that horse cost $2 million. I'm like, but it looks just like that horse. He goes, yeah, you don't know anything about horses. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 01:26:10 So, like everything else, as you cultivate your eye or your ear, the way you have for music, and I don't, it's important. But. I would love to learn everything. 9,000 horsepower, dude. Yeah, that's, and then there are some things that are ridiculous to know about like that at the same time
Starting point is 01:26:27 You can also make fun of somebody for oh, yeah to educate it on something Yeah, it's bit of a waste, but that's what he's into right now. So of course I'm joking You like that? Yeah, like that gets you going. Uh No, I it's just mind-blowing to me. Yeah, it's crazy that they figure it out how to make it all you could never put that in a car families like Families like it's their tradition like their great-grandfather built these then that so it's all family like tractor racing and it's real serious shit Oh, yeah in that in that in that demo, you know, it's cool Yeah, because the engineering behind they can do anything dude. How much those engines cost?
Starting point is 01:27:03 I mean, shit. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah, I mean, by the time with all that engineering goes into it, you know? God dang. Some rich farmers. Mid, high six figures. Then some rich farmers.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Ha ha ha. I'm into Allison transmissions lately. Weird shit, dude, and y'all are fucking ignorant, and that's how World War II started. That's right. That's right. Oh that's not good. Okay yeah anyway it's a long episode. It is. I'm arguing. Oh damn 2018 I gotta go. I think you guys are. I gotta run. Me too. I gotta pick my son up. Me too. Alright. Kids I'll see you in Calgary. Three hours of baseball. See you in Calgary tomorrow. Calgary or today. It comes out tomorrow. Here we go. Tomorrow yeah yeah. Calgary, yuck yucks, one show tonight, two shows tomorrow, two shows Saturday.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Tell my boy what's up. Let's go. Yuck yucks, Calgary. What up? All right guys, love you. This is The Finding Kid, we're out.

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