The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1043

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

AG Gregoroff joins Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub for the first time on TFATK and the guys talk free masons, prison stories, why AG doesn't necessarily like a past guest on the show, Wes Watson, how AG started his very successful flip flop brand "Toe Hold", AG's lodge next door to Zak Bagans' haunted mansion, current events around the world and much more! Huckberry - Be sure to go to https://huckberry.com/fighter so they know we sent you! You'll find some of our top products O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER Progressive - https://www.progressive.com/ JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

Yes we did, cause we back at it again, it's the fighter and the kid This is really the fighter and the kid Come on baby Let's go Let's fucking go, Chen Let's go Let's do it, Brian Callan That's right, we got A.G. Gregorov from Tohold, man

You forget the brand? Founder of Tohold Creator Creator Hey guys Professional diver Does a lot of things Those sandals, I assumed you'd come correct with the sandal always oh always yeah

He's the AG cracks man Cuz he's always the guy who knows like if you want to get into sharks if you want to get into diving if you Want to get it like like how you can drown if you want to get in a weird shit like that He knows everything everything. He's like your brother like he he knows he goes to the end degree like my my my My sister's thinking about getting a Belgian Malinois, and he goes that's a terrible idea, and he went through all the reasons I'm like oh, you know about dogs Yeah, your sister in Hollywood should not have In her house yeah, what do they have right now? They have a bull massive, but he's old cool

They just put him down and a pit bull They have a bull Mastiff, but he's old. He's cool. They just put him down And a pit bull. Yeah problem with Mastiffs is I just don't there's too big and I don't too big They have I can't predict. I can't I don't like any dog. That's Unpredictable and it's that powerful. I just don't like it personally as you get older. You got kids you never know But all their kids are older. Yeah Yeah, the psychology you have to have to manage a dog like that, most people don't have, especially if you live in Hollywood. That's a working dog. It's like a race car.

If you have kids. You gotta be an alpha, right? You gotta have no dogs. They're working dogs. You better have amazing kids. If your kids suck, that dog's gonna suck. Like you have to be really good at teaching and training. Discipline.

Discipline, control, setting clear boundaries. That dog will kill you. But it's also a light switch. So if you have friends come over and they're wrestling, that dog hits that kid. If some guy comes on, he's looking around, he's a gas guy. See, that's why I didn't get a Kinkorso. Like, it's my favorite dog ever.

I used to have one. And then it's like, with me I'm fine. But with the kids, it's like, if this thing, you won't look at him, he's freaking harmless, but if he decided to, whatever, freak out, if Billy, who's one, is yanking his bone, he bites it, you know, it sucks, so I can rip her face off. Cain Corso does it, you're talking about a different

medical bill. It's over, it's over. And then I gotta kill him. My cousin's a cop, and he says when they're in a situation, all the cops are stacked in a hallway, they got a guy behind you know behind the door He won't come out and that canine comes down the hallway to to be cut loose He's like that dogs biting all of us on its way

We're pulling our asses in that you get bit all the time by those things fuck that all the time They just like yeah, here we go boys. Oh fuck Yeah, well I've seen I've seen footage I'm not even supposed to see I saw some a SWAT guy who had his dog and This dude was on PCP. He's like six for huge guy. I think the dog. Well, he was he was Fighting two cops and they couldn't handle him and they let this German Shepherd go and that dog in the middle of his PCP freakout And they let this German Shepherd go and that dog in the middle of his PCP freakout Grabbed his huge arms arms like your size grabs his arms disabled it and the guy looks down like that and just goes The fuck and starts trying to hit it and then the dog switches on the other arm and the guy just goes up And this arm goes limb I go why isn't he doing he goes because he shut that arm down cuz all the nerves went dead

He saw he severed it all just bit through and all of a sudden- You're so screwed. You can't do anything. But even post, like the surgery, the nerve damage. It's awful. It's awful. It's one of the reasons they don't use those giant mastiffs because their mouths are so big.

You can't pull them off either. It's game over. A shepherd bites plenty hard enough to basically crush your bones. Where were you this weekend? I was in Schaumburg, great crowds. Chicago's good yeah I saw the crowd. That's good. It was really cool. Schomburg hung out with Balal Muhammad who came to the show. That's my boy. Awesome. Love him. How's he doing? Good. Is he bombed? I mean clearly you're supposed to fight next Saturday. Yeah. UFC was at 310 chin? Yeah I think so yeah. He's a thiccy. Oh yeah. I looked at his ass and legs. I was dude if you were a girl, I'd be very attracted to you. You will you know what I mean?

He's got legs and ass for days. He's big boy right now. He has to be a little bum that Shavkat fighting Ian Gary now Yeah, or maybe maybe it's he gets a chance to study the guy more Yeah, your name. Yeah, you know, I've got toughest challenge for sure. Yeah How do you see that fight going Sh Shavkat and Ian McChaddlegarry? It's tough to pick against Shavkat But if anyone's gonna do it to me and Gary being Gary wins, though It's not an exciting fight stays on the outside keeps on the outside and you get yeah Do we know is that a five rounds chin? Does it say?

It's a co-main event. That should be five rounds. They usually run five on co-main events. That magnitude of a fight to determine who's going to get a shot at the belt, it should be five. We did a little, we're both a little hungover. A little drinking with Eddie Bravo last night at Via Veneto. And that was interesting.

We had some good conversations. You guys are drinking, you were probably drinking whiskey or you drinking wine like this, Gabe? I usually drink tequila on the rocks, like a nice and a-ho. But we went to some bar beforehand and these middies were buying us shots. What were the jello shots that were fucking? Well it was, yeah. You were having shots?

I had some shots. Wow. Yeah. Pure pressure. That's not like me Yeah, well, you know Face looks a little puffy. I'm not gonna. Yeah, we had some we had some we had some very we had a very pretty young lady Who is named Breezy Fox? Who came over and had seen me on pillow talk that podcast?

Oh, so we were talking to her and her two friends who are very sweet and they bought us me and my wife Some shots we did some of those I couldn't say no I'm old you're too old when I all this you're too old for that Well, no, but when a young woman comes up and says I'm a fan and they're very pretty I am I'm a basically I'll take any fucking compliment like if a young girl's like you're I'm such a fan and she looks that beautiful, I'm like, thank you very much. You take the shots? Yeah, I'll do whatever.

I'm just so flattered. I get it. Those pictures aren't doing her justice. Yeah, she's gorgeous. Yeah, she's a very pretty girl. Very cool. Very nice. And how late were you guys, how late were you boys out?

Well then we went from there, after the Eagles game, we went to eat at Via Veneto and hold on homeboy goes crazy He goes home while drove drove from Manhattan to Venice. Yeah. Yeah, that's right Tesla Tesla drove that we just hung out. Yeah, we were talking hanging and then He goes hog wild he'll he'll get the the t-bone that steak is the best steak in the world I think it's the best steak in the world. Yeah, and living in Las Vegas, they have the best steak houses ever. Via Veneto, the last steak I had there, which was the Tomahawk, best steak in the world,

they got, I got the T-bone this time, which I don't even like, was even better. It was. The best steak in the world, no one's sure how it's... Eddie Bravo kept saying, this is the best spaghetti I've ever had in my life. At top of his lungs, he goes, is there baby blood in this? You put baby blood? This is the best spaghetti. He was freaking out. life. At top of the line he goes, is there baby blood in this?

You put baby blood? This is the best spaghetti. He was freaking out. He's got baby blood in the restaurant. That's Eddie. That's Eddie. And did Eddie just had spaghetti? Yeah, because Eddie's not an adventurous eater.

Yeah, he's like, ah! I'm not, I go, I'll get meatballs, spaghetti. I'm like, but. Yeah, Eddie eats like a ton. Callan's trying to get him ravioli and all these sauces. He likes the butter and sage ravioli. And the lobster. Yeah, he's like, I don, it's like a ton. Callan's trying to get him ravioli and the, uh, truffles. Yeah. He's like my kid. Yeah. Yeah.

A hundred percent basic. Yes. Doesn't trust it. No, Eddie is such a unique. He's the best. He's such a, you want one of one. We almost got Sam out last night too. Sam was so close to coming out. Yeah.

Almost got Sam. Triple. Holy fuck. After midnight, Sam and Eddie turned into gremlins. Yeah. Yeah. Eddie is such a good person. We went deep on the conspiracies. Yeah. Yeah. Deep. Deep. In front of this guy?

Well, he was talking about Freemasons stuff and Eddie had the wrong idea of who the Freemasons are. But Freemason is the oldest, it's the oldest organization, I think in America. Oldest fraternity in the world. And it dates back to before the cross, the Star of David, all that sort of stuff. Really? Way back to King Solomon's temple. Wow. And Freemason, do you have to rush for it like other fraternities?

Yeah. All fraternities are built off of kind of Freemasonry. So you first, you can't, you'll never get recruited. You have to seek it out. Oh, man. That's hoping they DM me. is now you got to go yourself And then it's really just a slow process of just getting know the guys and the best way to Formulate is it's a lot like the mob old Italian guy sitting at a coffee table in the morning drinking coffee you walk in you're like

Hey, I'm a new guy. They'll be like sit over there. You just sit there for months Oh wow months and like maybe my club is you say they have to know a couple a few months like, hey, I'm a new guy, they'll be like, sit over there, you just sit there for months. For months. And like maybe- It's very fight club-ish, you just sit out front. Maybe after a few months, one guy will be like, where you from? Good, and they'll just ignore you for another two months. Wow.

It's super slow. Really? Now what's the benefits of being in this club? So the real- Preach. Yeah, the real thing is they take good men and make them great, like that's the philosophy. And you gotta remember this organization is as old as time. So all the history lessons throughout the world

have always been kept, they call it like in the breast, like tied to the chest in Freemasonry. And then you'll share things that happen, wrong doings, things like that. Freemason get a lot of bad press because we're at war with the Vatican. So the Vatican double worshipers and all that sort of stuff but really Freemasonry is the hub of all conspiracies.

So when you get, and they always say Freemasons are running shit, Freemasons are the ones like, hey motherfucker, that's not real, here's the historical proof, that didn't happen, this didn't take place. And who's famous alumni of Freemasons? There's some presidents. Everybody, George Washington all the way down.

I pulled some up here. We have George Washington, Clark Gable, Jesse Jackson, Buzz Aldrin. John Lane, like, just keep going. General Ford, Ben Franklin. Damn. Crockett. Benny Franklin?

Yeah, bro. I mean real American. Don Rickles. Mayor Oscar Goodman, the mayor of Las Vegas, his wife's now mayor. Yeah, so that's- He was John Gotti's attorney. Yeah, so. Mayor Oscar Goodman, the mayor of Las Vegas, his wife's now mayor. He was John Gotti's attorney. Yeah, so when you're in there, you've got connections.

Like you can, you've got a large backing. Oh, I want in. Yeah, you got a large backing. But I have to sit around for months, or is there like a fast pass? No, it's not. Hey, you sit around. You sit right there.

You sit around. Keep your voice down, and we'll call on you when you're ready All right, they're like we working a lot of members drank 17 dikes It's a lot of like Lacoste Lacosta Nostra that's the government like the legal system is all based off of Freemasonry It's all the tenants that was created hundreds of thousands. And what got you into it?

You had a buddy? I seen a fucking documentary on, the same ones you guys all see on History Channel, like who the fuck are these guys? This is crazy, like are they really running the world? So you could Google, if you're, get your phone, just Google Masonic Lodge and they'll just pop up anywhere.

They're not secretive. No, I saw one the other day. They're all over the place. Where was I? It was behind something. I was like, I wonder if I just walked in there, what would happen? Nothing.

You would get greeted. If the guys were there, you get greeted. You can come into our lodge and learn everything about Freemasonry. The only thing you won't learn is our handshakes on how we greet each other. Yeah, you can't be just showing that to anybody. Because it really signifies your rank, right?

Like if you were a black belt, we could talk back and forth and be like, oh, you know so and so, we just term it, oh yeah, the guy's been around, right? Or you can have a secret black belt handshake that's like, okay, this guy has been exposed to, you know. He knows the deal. And then in addition, you could be a guy

who's been kicked out of Freemasonry. He could be in bad standing, so you have to have an annual dues card every year saying that you're in good standing from the grand lodge of your particular state. And how many people, how many members are a part of this? I think there's about four million around the world. Okay, that's big.

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And did you guys, were you guys the ones to expose the Catholic church for- Yeah, all the sex crime stuff, like we've exposed them multiple times, the banking system, a lot of the corruption that you like see in the world, I mean all the way back to like the Kings of England and stuff.

America was founded on Freemasonry. They were able to infiltrate like the Kings and determine what they were doing and like the evilness and then the Vatican. And we came to America and created this brand new country. So when these shows talk about what Washington's built around Freemasonry, no fucking shit, bro. And the Egyptians were built around fucking Egypt.

Like, it's not the fucking obvious. Is there the negative thing to being in Freemasonry? A lot of bad press. A lot of bad press. A lot of bad press. From the mainstream. Yeah, because people don't know. People don't know. Like you'll get guys that'll talk about the Illuminati.

The Illuminati were aristocratic slave owners from like the 1700s. So when you see like a black dude who was like a rapper and he said he's an Illuminati, that's like saying you were in the Confederate army. You don't even know what you're saying. You're so ridiculous. But real Freemasonry is,

it's cool, but it has to be something you have to want to do. A lot of guys, from World War II, everybody was in it. And then the Vietnam generation, they're like the kids didn't want to do what their dads did, so they all rebelled. And a lot of guys from that generation.

Hells Angels? Is that when they went into Hells Angels? Hells Angels came from around that same time, yeah. Are there any Hells Angels in? No. You can't do both. No. You can't do both.

No, you can't double dip. Yeah, you can't double dip. But you can have been to jail. Technically, no. Really? Yeah. So my stuff, my record has all been removed because it was a faulty arrest. Oh, really?

So the jail time I did, the felonies I had were all dismissed. If you run me, I have a zero record. How long were you in? Two years. Two years? I turned 19 and 20 in jail. Oh, you're young.

Damn. Yeah. That's why you know so much about that stuff. And were you in the Freemasonry before? No, no, this came, I've been in about 10 years. So this was, when I was in jail, I was really young. But if I would have had a record, I would have never been able to get past the investigation portion

of Freemasonry. Right. You get, once you, when you want to join, you become a hang around. They call it a knocker. Like you're just knocking on the door. Basically like a prospect. Exactly, exactly.

And then you'll eventually build a relationship with somebody and you'll fill out a petition that has all your personal information, your history, stuff like that. And that guy will sign the bottom stating that he believes that you're in good moral fortitude, I think is a term. And then you have to have another guy sign the bottom.

But anyone could sign the bottom, because once, if you're a Freemason, once you sign the top, I automatically trust your opinion and your belief and your word that this person's good to go, and then you get the bottom sign. You guys just hang out and talk and stuff? No, we do a lot of drinking and shit.

Yeah, that sounds awesome. But Vegas is different, so we own a lot of the casino property. So our lodge has millions and millions of dollars. It's extremely wealthy. And you guys help each other out if there's like businesses and stuff like that? Like a lot of business stuff. Like these are little things but like my good buddy coach Casey Halstead, he gets a speeding ticket. He'll just send a

picture of it to me. I'll send it to our Masonic attorney. It just disappears. I want in bro! I fucking want in man. I just can't hang out at a cafe for six months. Yeah. Yeah. I fucking want in. I want to be part hang out at a cafe for six months. Yeah. I fucking want in. I want to be part of a group. There's little stuff like that. Then there's like senators you know and there's fundraisers. You get to know a lot of powerful people.

Yeah, a lot of bigwigs. Who are secretly. Yeah, and then our lodge has really high security because you get weirdos that show up. Oh I bet. Burning fucking babies and stuff like that. Your place got shot up, right? Yeah, yeah somebody shot up two cars and shot up the whole front of the building. Do you guys have right? Yeah. Yeah somebody shot up two cars and shot the whole front of the building You guys have merch

Yeah, we do have rings. Yes, we're patches and stuff and pins a lot of pins a lot of rings And then the aprons they were excited. Yeah, I want in cuz I can't I love the hells angel I can't be in but check this out. So it's not like during the Civil War There was Freemasons in the north and the South, and then when the North marched on the South, they would put the square and compass on the house saying, hey, this is a Freemasons house, don't burn down, don't fucking kill my wife, stuff like that.

And then when Freemasons captured each other, they would release each other, and let each other go free, and then they would meet for Lodge and hold meetings and stuff like that. But once the slaves were free, you weren't equal, but you were free to be a free man, right? So the blacks wanted to become masons and they're like, absolutely you could do that. I mean, not with us, but you could do it over there.

So they created what's called the Prince Hall Lodge and that's where Shaq and those guys are free Freemasons at and they're super ornate. They meant only it's like going to a black church They're like singing and their hands are in the air and it's there's like all ornate gold jewelry like big cufflinks Yeah, but he was all saying to eddie. He was saying like the mafia does stuff illegally But if you mess with the Freemasons, they can do stuff to you legally he was saying, like, the mafia does stuff illegally. But if you mess with the Freemasons, they can do stuff to you legally, like within the legal framework. Which is almost worse.

Way worse. Because the mob, if you kill somebody in the mob, the FBI will eventually take you down and destroy your organization. If you just remove somebody's ability to do, make decisions or to be a person of influence, there's no crime in that. Now that person's been eliminated as somebody. And they can't make income and...

Yeah. I mean, they could find another job. Yeah, but as far as influence, yeah, you're sure. You get removed from political office, you're basically shunned, you know. How long did the process take you from when you were hanging around the cafe to... So I had a rare experience where I got fast-tracked. I just got in with the good guys. It's kind of like Sammy.

You know, Sammy, like guy with the good guys who moved fast. Sammy. Sammy the Bull. Oh, yeah. He had moved real fast to the organization. I got lucky to where I moved really fast. I moved up to the 32nd degree within the first five years. My grandfather was a Mason.

I didn't know this until I first started looking, wanted to join. He made it up to 18 degrees in his entire life. So I just got, I just moved really, really fast. Put in a lot of work. When you say put in work, what do you mean? There's a lot of, yeah, hey. Hey, hey, hey.

Hey, relax, no more friends there. There's all kinds of stuff. You got cameras on this, all right? No, there's all kinds of stuff. So the Freemasons are so the Shriners if you ever heard of a Shriner before the Shriner PGA tour Shriner Hospital we own these hospitals and they're all Freemason own So if your kids got sick God forbid and you're like dude, I don't got the money

We have a huge hospital in LA or if you live in Las Vegas, which is four hours away We'll send a van for you every morning, drive you to the hospital, have your kids treated for whatever ailments they have, and driven back every day, all the launches. How about that? Yeah, a lot of that type of stuff. So you run hospitals and things like that, and you know.

Yeah, totally support. It'd be funny if Chin was just not there anymore, and was like, what happened to Chin? I didn't like, his hands were clammy, I had to get rid of him. Yeah, yeah, he was pushing a broom down the street. Yeah, a van took him away. Yeah, but that's, so it's interesting.

So you, yeah, because I learned a lot about. So if you're a conspiracy theorist guy, Freemasonry is your number one ally. All the bullshit the government does, all the bad things that's happening nowadays, that's the hub of, hey, this isn't real. We have this thing that's called. That's me.

It's called Mouth to Ear. So throughout history, we couldn't really write things down. The king finds it, they'll have you beheaded, stuff like that. So you would take a historical event, memorize it, and then I would whisper it in your ear to pass the story along. Like the telephone game, except you were graded

on your ability to regurgitate the story over and over again without any. I would struggle at that. Yeah, without any. And there's some like secret writing we have. Like the whole game of tic-tac-toe. If we were Freemasons, we could play tic-tac-toe in front of everybody and communicate together.

Oh wow. Really? That's a Freemason game. Everything you do is Freemason based. Like being blackballed, getting the third degree, those are all Freemason game. Everything you do is Freemason based. Like being blackballed, getting the third degree, those are all Freemason things. Really? Yeah, the black book, like that's all Freemason terms.

Yeah, when you get expelled from, you get a black cube, it's called being blackballed, basically. Yeah, so when you want to join the lodge, you have to be voted on, and unanimously by everybody. And white balls elect elect black cubes reject But some of the guys are are seen now they're old So you reach into this container and you'll feel is it a ball or is it a cube? Oh gotcha, and if somebody casts a black cube you're done. And how long have you been in it ten years?

Damn that's cool. Yeah So we got to change like the what the what the church is doing and saying like Freemasons are running the world. Freemasons are the ones fighting for your rights and Friday fighting for like hey these motherfuckers are up to something these guys are up to no good. Yeah, this is Chris organizations. Would you say that your experience as a young man in state pen was a looking back on it positive for your development or negative?

I think going to jail for a lot of people Is a is a bad thing. Yeah, I would hate to go to jail nowadays, of course, you know, I'm fucking rich I got a nice house. I make a shitload of money, you know nice girls But being in jail at the time but didn't bother me at all It didn't not even a little bit cuz you didn't have anything not only that but we grew up on the street We grew up poor on the streets, you know? So like everything was always fighting each other. Like we grew up like coyotes, you know what I mean?

Yeah. I was terrible in school, terrible. Some people say when they go into jail or prison, they leave with a master's in crime. You know, like you go in with a bachelor. Also a master's in behavior though. Yeah, you could do that too. California is different from anywhere else in the country. California jails are

Substantially more violent more organized the race segregated They're all controlled like the fucking rape shit and stuff you hear like the Puerto Ricans doing on the East Coast That shit doesn't happen in California. You get fucking killed You get stabbed in your neck and thrown over the tier if you have a gay relationship You got to keep it real fucking quiet and nobody can know about it. There's a story about this Asians, older Asian guy that raped a younger Asian guy.

They were cellmates. And right next door to their cell is these guys called the Bulldogs. They're like a hardcore Fresno gang. And because they were the closest to the action, the next morning when they walked down the tier, they cut the guy's stomach open His intestines fell on the floor. They grabbed him by the crotch and threw him over the railing the older game

Yeah, yeah, just cuz you can't do that. Yeah, you can't do that Yeah, you can't even walk the yard with us if you're like if you streak a football game. It's too weird Anything weird sexual you're fucking done. Is that right? Yeah, I can't do nothing weird Just your walking gate alone? Yeah, can't do nothing. Nothing weird. Just your walking gate alone, Brian, you can't walk. What? Yeah. What?

You just have too much sugar in your tank, dude. To walk the yard. And chomos, they keep separate? Usually. Usually. Sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes they make mistakes. And you went in at a young age for what?

I got part of a big drug raid at a house. So they used to do this thing called asset forfeiture. So the cops were super pro-law enforcement. I love cops. You know, the only discounts we give is cops. Yeah, we had a cop come visit us because he found out that he was in Manhattan. Yeah, so they're like, dude, can we stop by?

I was like, fuck yes. They came by the house to meet us and stuff. I love cops. Me too. So in the 90s, there was a huge drug epidemic in Southern California. It was all methamphetamine from the bikers and then the Mexican mafia was establishing themselves

on the streets. They had already controlled the prisons. Yeah, they started taxing gangs. Correct, yeah, they started bringing in MS-13 guys, or sorry, South Side Serenio guys into it. So if you were a street gang, Southern California street gang, you answered to the MA or the Mexican mafia.

So there was all heavy amounts of drugs coming across the border. Cops being cops, they have to figure out how the fuck to deal with this. They were just raiding houses left and right and left and right. And my uncle was a drug user, not a drug maker. But my uncle is kind of like that guy that was on Rogan,

that Bob Lazar guy, you know? That's where that Bob Lazar story kind of like, eh, with me. Because my uncle was one of those guys. Where he worked for NASA on the guidance system for the stealth bomber, and he did stuff for satellites, and he's worked on really advanced stuff. But those guys- So you don't buy that UFO shit from Bob Lazar?

No, you don't get- That clearance? You don't get, let me say this without insulting the guy. So if you join an organization like that, the first thing you're going to do is you're going to say, hey, welcome to Area 51. Let me put you in charge of a project. That project's going to be fake. And if that project leaks, you're done do is you're gonna say, hey, welcome to Area 51. Let me put you in charge of a project. That project's gonna be fake. And if that project leaks, you're done.

You're screwed, yeah. We did that at Apple. So you would come and, you know. But you worked for Apple? Yeah, I used to be in senior leadership at Apple. Oh, wow. I don't lie and say I had a college degree and shit, which I don't.

I finished seventh grade. Hell yeah. But you would, um, you would join Apple, like as an engineer or something, then they would put you in charge of this project. And the project was fake. It tastes like a secret project. A new fucking, like new headphones or some shit, right? And then if that project leaked,

everyone on the team would be dumped. So what they probably did with Lazar is they put him in charge of a program and they went to just see what was gonna happen. This motherfucker squealed all over the place. And done, you're done right away. See ya, Bob. That's so interesting, I never heard that.

I never once heard that. Everybody does that, that's like normal government stuff. Yes. The first time I heard his story, I was like, he probably believes those things really happened. Yeah, I don't think he, he thinks it's true. Unfortunately, I think the people he's dealing with are a lot smarter and probably knew something happened.

Living in Vegas, we have a lot of friends at work in Area 51, because that's the town you live in, next to Area 51, and there's side conversations. Well, the one thing I realized, so a good example, Zero Dark Thirty. The CIA created this thing where they were really pissed that their techniques actually were put in a movie and somebody leaked it. Then you find out that no they didn't.

They created that, but they had guys from CIA tell them secretly how they did it. But it wasn't how they did it, it was bullshit. So they hoodwinked not only the public, but the movie going public, but also the producers. And it was all bullshit. It was smart though, it was like like oh shit, that was pretty wild, the way they did that, that's not how they got it.

So my uncle was from that hippies generation, where they did acid. They had great stories though. Say it again? I bet your uncle had great stories. Oh yeah, crazy stories, crazy stories. Fake, but yeah. But they were smart as fuck.

He's from the Steve Jobs generation, all computers, advanced thinking, stuff like that. So he would party, he would smoke weed. He had a guy that would come over and buy some weed, they would do some meth together. That guy had planted some stuff on the property, and the FBI raided the house. And it was a gigantic property, like 15 acres,

avocado groves, multiple houses. They seized the entire property, took everyone to jail. Like, I was arrested, and I think 14 other people were arrested. And you were just chilling, you had nothing to do with it? Nothing, I was just visiting. Wow. So, just like if I'm at Callan's, I stay at Callan's house,

by bringing my bag into Callan's house, my luggage, if you will, I've established residency there. So, you're a resident. Fuck. You know what I mean? You just got kind of looped in with all the bullshit. So back then it was guilty until proven innocent. So you go to jail and. Yeah, you go to jail and then your case will be heard

but it's in a file. So it's a big deal, it's a long process but they take your clothes, because they wanted to say that you were manufacturing drugs there. So they do these things called major case prints where they fingerprint your entire hand. They take your clothes.

If it was today, I would walk Scott free, because I'm smart enough and I could get good attorneys and make the whole thing go away. But as an 18 year old kid, you're just going through the system. You're scared, yeah. And then you got the, no, I wasn't scared. Yeah, sorry I said that.

Yeah, yeah. Calvin would be scared, I wasn't scared. You know what I mean, it's a lot going on. But these old timers are like, listen bro, if they cut you a deal, you're looking at 16 years, take this fucking bullshit deal, dude. Take this bullshit deal, it's two years, who gives a fuck?

You know what I mean? Or you face 16, but you've already watched the system fuck everybody else, so you're like, I'll just do two years, who gives a shit? You know, who gives a fuck? But technically I was only supposed to do five months and 20 days, but I lost all my good time for fighting and getting in trouble. And stuff like that.

Yeah, if you get in trouble for cutting a pedophile's face. No, I didn't get in trouble for that. Oh, you didn't? No, I did that, but I didn't get in trouble for that. That's encouraged, Brian. So, I had started doing Jiu Jitsu in 1990. So at this time, I was already training for like 10 years. And no one did Jiu Jitsu back then.

So you were like a ninja. No one knew what the fuck was happening. People were screwed. You could grab a dude and do it, and he'd be like, oh, I was already training for like 10 years. And no one did jiu-jitsu back then. So you were like a ninja. No one knew what the fuck was happening. People were screwed. You could grab a dude by his hip and just spin him around and just put him in a rear naked chuck.

They called him Monteleone back then. The Lions kill. Just chuck people unconscious. So, and then plus we grew up real violent and stuff like that. And I think I'm a nice guy, but we always grew up fighting. That was just part of our, you know,

that was part of our thing. And even if you can't fight, take your ass whipping and move on. You know? And that's the way, you know, if you went to jail, as long as you fought, you didn't need to win. It's way cooler if you win, but as long as you fight, that's all that matters.

Right. Give more respect. So I quickly like roast into the leadership in the jail, which isn't tough to do. As long as you're active. leadership in the jail, which isn't tough to do as long as you're active. You got white dudes, which are called pecker woods. Then you got white dudes that are skinheads or neo Nazi, Nazi low riders, PNI desk squad, all like the hardcore. Pecker woods not affiliated with all that. Correct. There's pecker woods are just regular white. We would just be pecker woods. We're white dudes. There's white dudes

in jail. Right. And we would all hang out together. Chin would be an other. So he'd hang out with the neo-Nazis and the low-riders. If there was a riot, yeah. Okay. But generally they do their own shit. They're really militant and always starting trouble

and always doing meth and shit. They're always causing a fucking problem. Yeah. You know? You said Chin would hang out with the others? The others, yeah. So we couldn't talk to Chin? No, we could.

No, we can't. Yeah, he could come clean our cell and stuff. Hey, dude. That's how it did back then. But they didn't have, is there not enough Asians that have their own gang? No, so the others is like Arabs, Native Americans, just a whole- Yeah, just anyone who's not white and Mexican or black. And they hang out together?

Yeah, they have their own crew. Samoans, they kind of- They have no choice. Yeah, they're not pussies. Mexican. They hang out together. Yeah, they have their own Chris Samoans. They kind of. Yeah, they're not they're not pussies. They're fucking. You know, it's a tough, it's a tough guy. You don't want to go against that car by itself. You know, it's a melting pot. And then so you got the you got the whites, the woods, you have the northern and southern Mexicans, you have the blacks, and then you have the border brothers, the Pisces, which the Pisces, the border,

the Mexican nationals. Wow. Yeah, and those are like the main guys that run everything. But if there's a riot, do all the Mexicans join forces? No, fuck no, they're against each other. Really? So Northern Mexicans hang out with the blacks, they call them busters, so you can't do anything

with the Northern Mexicans, because it's all race segregated. You can't shower with the blacks, you can't eat with the blacks, you can't even interact with the blacks. What? Yeah, and vice versa. Here's what's cool about b with the blacks, you can't eat with the blacks, you can't even interact with the blacks. What? Yeah, and vice versa. Here's what's cool about biker gangs,

maybe you can cosign this, is you know, so on the streets, Mongols, Hells Angels fucking hate each other. But if they're in prison, they have each other's back. There's no fighting amongst the biker gangs. Is that fake? That's true. Yeah, because Mongols are usually Mexican.

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Yeah. If you come in as a Packerwood, do you have to automatically be down? You have to like, if, so you have to, you can't be a fucking lame. You got to fight. You don't have to, but you can't be picked on, you know, you can't be a lame. So you could be just like, what would Brian, like like let's say the three of us got busted right now. We're in prison, right? You and I can hold our own, right?

Like you and I can figure it out. And then Brian, I hate to be shitty, man. It just is what it is. Brian has to shave his mouth. It's just your genetics. You gotta shave your mouth. But Brian, no, I fight. No, I know, I know, you're scrappy.

But he's gonna suck off the boys, man. No, no, no, which ones? Which boys? All of us, bro. Whoever we tell you. Wait, no, I fight, though. I fight boys. No, no, which ones which boys all of us or whoever we tell you No, I fight though. I fight to know if we gotta make a deal with the but I box I can throw my hat throw hands I know but it's just my back. You saw my backache, but you're so limited with your strength and we have a Crafty and you're older. No, seriously. What we do with a major you could be in charge of the girls. Oh You run the trannies. Okay. Yeah, You run the train. Come on girls. Let's

go. We've got work to do. No, Brian would be all right. Yeah. You'd be like the guy like tells us stories and stuff at night or no older guys. They usually know he would tell stories at night. He Brian would have to just shut up for the first few months and not say anything. You know, I mean, just watch and observe Brian would be fine. Yeah. Yeah. You make friends easily and the dudes you're around, some of them are cool guys, but most of them are f*****g scumbags. Yeah. They're there. If you go to jail, it's the type of guys that normal people never see on the streets. You never see, you don't even cause it's institutional. Yeah.

They're just stuck there, but most people don't know those humans even exist. So you go in there and like we grew up on the streets. So we know what those dirt bagsbag scumbag guys are like. You know right away. Now you just live in the same court. They suck to be around but you know, but for most people they're going to be exposed to that guy for the very first time. And those guys have nothing but tricks and scams. They're like gypsies, but they're running tricks and scams constantly.

Constantly. Constantly. I heard you get extorted. They'll come up and say you pay me you action money You could if you're that type of guy. Yeah, you know, I mean But you got to be down willing to fight down. That's the most important thing Yeah, you can mind your own business, but it's all hands on deck If there's a riot if we're riding like we we had a little riot against the Mexicans This place in San Diego every white guy has to come on deck and if you don't we'll just fuck you up later

Yeah, or you know after a riot they deck, and if you don't, we'll just fuck you up later. Or, you know, after a riot, they separate everybody, they move you to different facilities and stuff, but someone's gonna go on that same bus as you, and they'll be like, this motherfucker wasn't down, you know, and they'll touch you up a little bit. You'll be ready to go, Brian. But as long as you're okay with fighting,

it's not that big a deal. You gotta be used to being around guys that stink, everyone's fucking farting, like food sucks. Have the's be farting. You eat the food you eat. If you're doing successful, you're eating gas station food like Top Ramen. Because you have money to buy it, right? Yeah, the state county food is dog shit, dude. It's dog, it's unedible, yeah. But a lot of those guys have nothing, dude. Like they have nobody on the streets,

so they're trying to get their little hustle going, trying to do a little something, they're gambling. They're doing anything to get a little come up, you know? So you get some fucking dead sweetcakes. It's brutal. So speaking of that, so talking about like lame guys that go to jail, you know that fucking dude you guys had on Wes Watson?

That dude's a straight fucking lame. Really? He's a lame, he's a rat. If that guy goes back to jail, he's fucking dead. He's dead. Because he's made so many enemies or? So the whole like tough guy jail thing, he became a tough guy jail guy after jail.

Once he was on the street and he was around normal guys. He wasn't like that in jail. He was just a fucking, he was just a shadow guy. Just in the background. He just mind his business. He didn't run the fucking car. He didn't make any, call any shots and do any of that stuff. He's from my same hometown. He's a nobody.

Which is where? Oceanside. He's technically from Vista, but they're neighboring. It's kind of like a, yeah, it's neighboring, neighboring. Shout out to us, Customs of Vista. I'm always down in Vista. So he was a Rastafarian weed smoking dude. Like that's his thing.

He's like a snowboarding weed smoking, like Rastafarian guy. Yeah, he's a lame, he's nobody. And then he went to jail, he came out, he started lifting afterwards. And if those are the guys who follow him, he used to live in downtown San Diego. And he would leave every morning like at 3 a.m.

and he'd go 30 miles away up to Escondido to work out because he was worried people would you know see where he was he Didn't want to be around because the lot of guys had beef with them Why were they have beef with them? Are they like I said because he's no no this is not this is when he was early days Gotcha yeah, but just cuz he's you know those guys in the neighborhood They're tough fucking dudes You know you burn a guy on a fucking bag of weed or some dope or like you fucking fuck my boy over. But my boy was banging his wife the whole time.

So when he's up working out, my boy's down in San Diego beating up her asshole every day. Like he's that type of guy, he's nobody. But then he gets online, he does the tough guy shit and then normal guys are like, dudes are like, like I said, I don't know the type of guy who's into that stuff, but it's like a cut guy. Where he's like, you know, dudes are like, I guess it's, I don't know the type of guy who's into that stuff, but it's like a cut guy. Where he's like, come on motherfucker, what's up bro,

fucker, what's up big dog, let's go. That shit's fucked, that's a fake pretend like on the street thing. But you guys don't care, do you guys, like most, the street doesn't care about that he found a way to like make money off that, right? You guys don't care about that. No, what, his money making thing,

that's why he even moved to Miami. Because the dudes in San Diego are like, I remember that fucking. Yeah. You know, so guys that, guys that he burnt back in the day now remember him. Cause those guys are fucking just doing crazy shit all the time. They remember him now he has a Targon's back.

He's getting popped up on. But if he was never. He's got a Targon's back by who? Just other dudes, dudes from the neighborhood for just being a lame. Yeah. You know what I mean? Testifying against people, giving up game. By who? Just other dudes, dudes from the neighborhood for just being a lame. Yeah. Really? You know, testifying against people,

giving up game. So if you give up too much detail on like how guys get away with shit in jail, that's a fucking problem. Because those motherfuckers are still there doing it. Yeah. So if I'm like, here's how they get in the drugs, or here's how they get in, you know, contraband or whatever.

That's called giving up game. Yeah, screws over. And you're fucking up the dudes that are doing it right now. Yeah. You know, you can say they get in, you know, contraband or whatever. That's called giving up game. And you're fucking up the dudes that are doing it right now. You know, you can say they get contraband in there. Everyone knows it. But if you give up game, it's a big fucking deal. Yeah, it's a big deal. It's a big deal.

And then some of those hot shot stories he told were about guys that were like, that didn't fucking happen. You know, guys are like, that was me. That didn't fucking happen. My thing is, like like you've been in prison You've done all this in the Mason area all this. How the hell did you get to toe hole? No, he's also a professional diver You made your living out of that whole list of things. Yeah, scuba diving is the thing

I'm the best at just growing up in San Diego We were in the water from the time we were little kids little kids just body surfing we would so from the time we were little kids, little kids. Just body surfing, we would, so, those guys that aren't from California, back in like the 70s, the 80s, California was fucking incredible. You could drive your truck on the beach in San Diego, you can dump a bunch of wood off the back of your truck,

you could have a bonfire, you could drink beers, you could throw your empties in the ocean if you were that type of guy. You could swim out and dive down, grab some lobster, spearfish, fish from the beach, all that stuff. It was awesome. The same way Florida is now, that's how California was.

Back in the day, yeah. So that's how we grew up. We grew up on this bullshit little farmhouse in San Diego before all the big mansions and all that stuff. My family was one of the founding families of Oceanside and Vista. So great, great, great grandparents had huge acreage. But they'd die off, their kids sell it

for a couple hundred grand and then so on. It would have been hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property nowadays. But we just grew up in this little tiny farmhouse. We'd go down to the beach and we would just do beach stuff all the time. So scuba diving and spear fishing, that's just kind of

how we grew up. Just like a farm kid is going to know how to ride horses and milk cows. We just knew everything about the ocean just growing up. I mean, but you're big to be a diver, yeah? No, size doesn't really matter. Really? Yeah.

It's just technique. Yeah. It's comfortableness and it's technique. Yeah. It's comfortableness and it's technique. The size wouldn't matter in the water. How many hours do you have underwater? Oh my God. I couldn't even imagine. I mean, when I worked for the Marine Corps as a military contractor, we had logged 6,000 plus dives just logged. And then I had thousands of dives before that and I probably have a thousand after that. So just tons and tons and tons of time in the water.

And you're afraid of the ocean still? Well you're afraid of it because it will fucking kill you in a trillion different ways. Have you had any issues, all that diving? Yeah tons. Yeah? Yeah we've had gear failures, we've had. You used to go retrieve bodies.

Right. We'd pull bodies up and stuff like that. Both for the military and then, like if somebody drowned, the lifeguards will respond for a period of time, you know, a day or two. But eventually. And then it's like, alright,

does anybody want to volunteer and go try to find this dude's body? You know, stuff like that. Yeah. But some of the craziest shit you run into the ocean is the fucking seals. Yeah, seals, yeah, seals are great. They're horrible.

Really? Yeah, they're terrible. So you think of a seal just like a dog. You got cute dogs like your dog down here, and you can rub your noses together, and there's like a puppy. And then you have wolves. So there's both of those in the ocean,

and they're mean as fuck. Really? And they'll attack you, they'll bite you, they'll bite your face, they'll attack you in a group for gear. We were, me and this other guy were diving off of They'll bite you, they'll bite your face, they'll attack you in a group for gear. Me and this other guy were diving off of Orange County at night going for lobster.

We were separated, we were going on our own mission, we were gonna meet back on the boat. And in the ocean at night, if you have a flashlight, the flashlight only illuminates about, you know in a scary movie when they have the stupid flash light, you only see like a six inch beam. See, I'm never getting in the water at night like that. This is crazy.

Yeah, you haven't got to the worst part. You got great whites everywhere. Yeah, you haven't got to the worst part. So I got a bag on my hip full of lobster. I turned my light off and I'm just kicking probably 30 feet deep, just in the dark, and I got a compass that's illuminated. So you know where you're going.

Yeah, so I'm following my heading back, and I just know it's around fucking 300 kicks, you know, and I'll be generally in the area. And then just out of nowhere, something just grabs me and just rips me through the water. You know, something touches you in the water, you're gonna squirm, eee, you know, you're gonna get a little giggle.

So, and it was just a huge, it was a huge sea lion, or no, it was an elephant seal. So a huge male, just a gigantic thousand pound male. Bring that up, Chin. They're bigger than that. Pull up elephant seal. They're fucking ugly too. And then it just had a group,

and what you try doing, yeah, look at that thing. So what you try doing is you get a, you know, you have your flashlight, you're kind of looking around 360 for it, but you can't see anything. Cause if you don't point it directly at it, you won't see it. And then you get hit again and again, it grabs your leg, it bites your leg, it bites your arm.

And it just wants your lobsters, right? Yeah. What's just you, it to you, you're another seal. It's going to 5,000 pounds, 13 feet long. Yeah, they're gigantic. That's not fun They'll climb up on boats that are like moored and they'll just sink them because they're so big You have a boat just moored out on the bay and like those jump on the back your boat just sink the whole thing

I've seen that so did you have anything to defend them off anything? I just get fucking with you. They're too good in the water Well, it's it's like being in a wheelchair. Just give them your like being a wheelchair and you have like NFL athletes around It's like being in a wheelchair. So you just give them your lobster. It's like being in a wheelchair and you have like NFL athletes around you. You can't even move dude. You gave me a lobster. So eventually I cut my bag loose

and just kept swimming. You can hear them just ripping them because the sound travels way further and farther. You can hear them ripping the bag apart, crunching the lobster. So you're just fucking surrounded by these giant. Yeah, and if you don't give it up, they'll probably just bite you to death.

Did you think it was a shark? No, I knew right away that, I knew it wasn't a shark because a shark would have just hit you to death. Did you think it was a shark? No, I knew right away that I knew it wasn't a shark because a shark would have just hit you hard and stuck with you. A shark's not gonna go for your bag, they'll go for your body. Yeah, sharks are fucked. Unless it makes a mistake.

So he was more biting the bag and pulling you. The first thing they grabbed was the bag because the bag's connected to your body with a D-ring and just yanked me through the water. That's not pleasant. I had my thumb shredded by a, by a giant black Moray eel in Carlsbad. We were again diving at night for lobster and.

You have to do that night. The lobster are all out at night. Gotcha. It's so think about all the scary thing people do in the world where like you, like, dude, do you want to go into that forest? Yeah. Maybe there's a monster in there, right?

Or the ocean's full of monsters. The only place we know, go to space, there's nothing in space. Space is dumb, it's full of gas and rocks. All the crazy shit that we know of as human beings is in the ocean. It's all there. And the things we know about,

people don't understand how little we know about the ocean. My buddy- We know more about space, right? Yeah, we know more about everything. So you would think, well, we don't know much little we know about the ocean. My buddy- We know more about space, right? Yeah, we know more about everything. So you would think, well, we don't know much about the middle of the ocean. We don't know shit about the coastline, dude. There's been countless creatures

that have just been discovered just in knee-deep, chest-deep water. Just because no one knows what the fuck they are. They just show up. Yeah. And if you think of the ocean, like the chances of us walking outside and seeing an African lion is zero.

There's no possible way for an African lion to get over here. You can see anything. But in the ocean, every inch of the ocean is connected. So anything that's somewhere could potentially be somewhere else as long as the temperature and the food source moves. Chin pull up Humboldt squid. And you're doing it at night, man. Yeah. But you still do that

Yeah, I thought you were rich dog. I still like lobster I'd be too but I'm not diving at night for it with fucking around that picture on the far left right there No one with the guy Below below no below that Yeah that one. So that's a Hum a humbled squid. So it has a gigantic beak that bites you. But if you could pull up, can people see this at home that are watching? If you pull up their tentacles,

they have spiraling tentacles that look like a blender. So they'll suck your body, see those teeth on there? Oh wow. Holy shit. And then not only will they grab you, but they'll start cutting like silver dollar size holes out of your body. Damn.

And they attack divers all the time. They do? So in Mexico they call them, I think they call them Diablo Robles, like red devil, I'm probably saying that wrong. And guys fish for them in the Sea of Cortez, and they're strong, so when you pull, rojas, so when you pull it up, the mantable or whatever

will pull you into the water, they're really strong, and then they attack you and they'll just attack you in a group and kill you. The guys who have survived look like they were burnt with like scalding hot silver dollars on their body. And then one of the guys, this is one of a trillion things in the ocean that will kill you. Oh, so they'll kill you, they'll actually.

Oh yeah, they'll attack you like in a pack, they're pack animals. Jesus, things in the ocean that'll kill you. But they'll kill you. They'll actually. Oh yeah, they'll attack you like in a pack. They're pack animals. Jesus, what in the fuck? They're like seven foot long piranhas, okay? But hey, they're not around here, not a big deal, right? Yeah. They weren't around here until they were.

So a couple guys were diving off of La Jolla in San Diego and they just showed up one night and attacked them. They lived, but you're just in the water There's no like scientists or biologists. That's they're like to be like hey, we've discovered now. You're the guy you're the guy You're the guy yeah, you're the guy with your body exactly with Yeah, and then you're gonna go tell the biologist. Hey listen this is what I've seen So you're the Explorer out there, and you're you know Hey listen, this is what I've seen. So you're the explorer out there and you're, you know.

You could sit. You told me that Japan is the most dangerous sea. Oh God, it's full of everything that wants to kill you. You could just dive for just looking at the water. We had a guy die, that stepped on a stonefish in Japan. Yeah. Can you pull up a stonefish? Yeah, like everything.

Those are in shallow water, right? The stonefish, you step on them. So you're shuffling your feet on the bottom show dangerous They're in pot see that one with the guy see the the the dorsal fin see too, right and they have this like Jizzy looking substance that comes out So I dive with a felt bottom booty like the tip of a pole stick out has that felt on it Yeah, I have like an inch thick that covers the whole bottom of my booty, that's the shoe you wear. So when you're walking across the reef,

if you step on one, it'll break off its dorsal fin and it won't penetrate your foot. Almost nobody else wears those. It's like a high level pro piece of equipment. That was like a bullproof vest for your foot. It'll protect you from urchins and things like that. He wasn't in our group, but this Japanese guy stepped on one,

and then as we came out of the water, we see the commotion, we go over, and he was dead long before the ambulance. And we got there. Like 15 minutes he was dead. And what a bullshit way to go. What a bullshit way to go. How'd you die?

Just stepped on a fish. That scares me, because you don't see him. I've been diving, and I've looked at him, and the guy had to point it out to me. They look so much like the coral. And in an aquarium, in ideal conditions, they're hard to see. If you had a table here in the aquarium,

you'd be like, where is it? Yeah. I'm pretty sure there's people with those as pets. Yeah, you can keep them as pets. They don't budge. You can flick them. They don't move. They don't care about your foot.

They don't, you step on them, they're not gonna move. God damn. Can't have a stupid animal to own too, because literally like you said, you can't see them if you have an aquarium. So diving for lobster, you got't see him if you haven't. No, look at that. So diving for lobster, you got sculpin', stonefish depending on where you are,

you got urchins, and you're just sticking your hand inside this deep hole, trying to grab a lobster and pull it out. And I got a moray eel, grabbed my thumb and just shredded it. I wear Kevlar gloves and it just shredded through the Kevlar and shredded my finger to the bone. Damn, what the fuck?

Fucked it up bad. Fuck. But the ocean's full of all kinds of crazy stuff. If we went to the desert and we seen like a pile of rocks and I said, hey, Kal and stick your hand underneath that pile of rocks, you'd be like, fuck no. There might be a snake. Yeah.

The holes in the ocean, there's 1000% tons of stuff in there. There's not gonna be a hole. Well, those are houses. Yeah, they're houses, that's where they live. Those are homes for dangerous animals. There's tons of stuff. Yeah, I don't know what's in there Well, those are houses. Yeah, they're houses, that's where they live. Those are homes for dangerous animals. There's tons of stuff. Yeah, I don't know what's in there, but there's all kinds of stuff.

I'm not sticking my hand in. And you're constantly still diving, doing all that shit now? Not as much as I was, but I still dive a lot. So sharks are the last thing you're worried about, really? Sharks are just the standard thing you know that wants to kill you.

Sharks like- But they say tiger sharks will eat you more than a, great one will bite you and let you go. They'll all eat you. Yeah, they'll all fuck down. Really? So I like to do this thing when we're out diving, and just me and you, we're like half a mile

out in the water, it's nighttime, we're the only two guys. So me and you, Shobber in the water, we're way out and we're fitting on the surface, we're kicking back. And I'll be like, there's like a one in a billion chance of us getting bitten by a shark. Like, does it make you feel better? Fuck no, because it's only me and you.

We're the only people that shark can bite. And the way they take that calculation. The stats are so off. Here's how they do it. They take all the humans on Earth, and they say, well there's this many fatalities times this many people or whatever. Well some dude that lives in fucking Tibet

shouldn't be part of this equation. Correct. Some guy that lives in Madagascar. Yeah, my argument with that one there. It's me that lives in fucking Tibet shouldn't be part of this equation. Some guy that lives in my gas car. It's me and you in the ocean. My argument with that one, people are like, well you're more likely to die in a car crash than you are to get eaten by a shark. I'm like, well, I'm always driving constantly. Yeah, but those stats are so skewed

because if I have to swim to work every day when I'm on the roads, that's right. Through the fucking roof. If you get bit, I'm all like, dude, do you know the odds of that happening? Everyone gives's right. Through the fucking roof. That's right. If you get bit, I'm not like, dude, do you know the odds of that ass dropping? That one gives a fuck. Yeah.

That one gives a fuck. Well, you said too, people go disappear. All the time. And they go, oh, he drowned. How do you know he drowned? He probably got eaten. Yeah, that Tim Kennedy story, he would've got killed, where he swam out in the ocean,

he would've got killed by sharks, and he would've been missing at sea, probably drowned. Yes. And then if a shark would've bit him, and then he drowned as a result of the shark bite, he would have been marked as cause of death drowning. Yeah, they don't list a lot of the shark attacks or the crocodile attacks. So all the stats are shamed.

Way more shark attacks than you can imagine. Way more. There's this place in Florida we go to called New Smyrna Beach. It's the shark bite capital of the world. We shoot a lot of the models and stuff like that there. And it's just where like the Halifax River pours out of the world. We shoot a lot of the models and stuff like that there. And it's just where the Halifax River pours out into the ocean. Bull sharks.

Everything. Name a shark, it's there. But these little sharks, we always think about the big sharks. These little sharks, these little two footers. Like the black tips and shit? The black tips, the reef sharks, white tips. But picture a piranha that's two feet long.

You don't wanna get bit by that. These things are way worse. There it is. Oh, a two foot, three foot, four foot shark can take a bigger bite. So you're in literally knee deep water and these guys are just blasting into schools of fish, trying to grab a fish, and your foot's there

and just takes your foot off, it takes your calf off. Yeah, you saw that. People, like somebody got bit three times in one week at that beach. Dude, I don't care if it's a black shark lemon shark? I give up bit by a shark I'm getting on the gram. It's a great white. Yeah, 100% I saw it's Doll eyes Megalodon bite. Yeah, so it's doll eyes as it turned Yeah, my eyes saw his white eyes and they're so big people you ever see great white bites though where the shark lets you go

They'll bite you huge chunks. Yep Well, or some people will get, come all the way down, like look that up, Shin, it'll be all the way down and then they'll let you go, they wait for you to bleed out to death, but if your friends are there. So you don't scratch their eyes. If it's a seal, they don't want the seal

to scratch their eyes, so they'll bite them and let them go. There's three shark bites that are real popular. There's an exploratory bite where it could just be a juvenile just kind of seeing what things are. That's what they always say is in like from Santa Monica to Santa Barbara. It's all juveniles. Yeah, from San Diego all the way up.

Yeah, San Diego to Santa Barbara. They're saying it's juveniles like feeling out like they're young. They just don't know. Just like a baby, they're putting stuff in their mouth. I guess. Then there's the mistaken bite where it thinks your food and it just bites you hard. And then there's the worst one, which is the territorial bite that moms do

when they're clearing an area to give birth. They're gonna go and they're gonna shred everything bad. That's probably what happened to that swimmer. That's what happened to the guy. Well, the guy in San Diego, he was swimming for a triathlon or whatever those things are. Bit him in half.

A shark grabbed him, literally shook him and his, all his intestines went flying one direction. His torso went the other direction. His legs went the other way. That's a powerful. And literally through the surf, his like stomach bile and stuff is like causing foam in the surf. His intestines are washing up on the beach. I like when they go.

We were diving there the next week. I like when they go, don't worry. I like when they go, don't worry, sharks don't like the taste of humans. Really? Who told you that? Until they bite you. Well who the fuck told you that?

Who said that, the news? Yeah, who told you that? And also that bite's gonna be devastating. You're trying to make people feel comfortable because it's tourist money. They will bite you in half. That guy got bit in half, it's crazy. Yeah, shredded, shredded.

And is it one bite you think? Just grabbed and shook, that's all it takes grabbed and shook. That's all it takes so powerful That's all it takes. So dude, so how the fuck did you get to total? Yeah, that's all time. We got today folks So my flip growing up in San Diego, we always were flip-flops. I flip-flops kept breaking Just the ones I'd buy at the store. Yeah, the cheapies and I we would go on hikes Like your flip-flops is what you wear everywhere You never put more on shoes nowadays. I'll put on shoes if I go to a nice restaurant or something

Skin cowboy boots for via Venetian. Yeah, I got nine thousand dollar boots who cares Yeah But I wanted to they always suck so I was like well, I'm gonna try to make my own I don't have any Skills making anything. I didn't do anything in school. I only finished seventh grade. Like I didn't have any skills making anything. I didn't do anything in school. I only finished seventh grade. I didn't do any school. I didn't know crafts. I just went into the garage one day and just started to try to learn on how to make flip flops.

But really what you needed to learn was like, what's leather? Is the chair you're sitting in leather? Is the seat in your Ferrari leather? Is a baseball glove leather? What's the difference? There's a huge difference in leather. A saddle is made out Ferrari leather, like, you know, is a baseball glove leather, like what's the difference? There's a huge difference in leather. A saddle's made out of leather, they're all different. So I spent literally thousands of hours

watching YouTube videos and stuff, and no one made flip flops, but I would watch a guy who was a saddle maker, and I would see a tool in the background, a freeze frame, and then I'd be like, well what the fuck is that? And I'd start trying to figure out what that tool is. And then I'd get a little bit of money and I'd go buy that tool and experiment with it and be like,

that tool sucked. I spent five grand and it didn't work. You know, it didn't do what I wanted it to do and just burned tons of money trying to figure out how to make flip flops. And then doing jujitsu, my buddies would come hang out at the shop. I mean, after training, they'd come hang out in the

shop. Where would you train? 10th Planet Las Vegas. Oh, nice. So we would just hang out afterwards, and I'd just be tinkering. People would just be, you know, just hanging out. And then eventually, one of my buddies had said,

hey, the guy from Gracie Barra wants to know if you can make a pair of flip flops. And I'm like, which guy? And he's like, you know, the guy's so-and-so. I'm like, eh, fuck that guy. You know, and I don't like the guy. I'm not gonna make him a pair. And then they're like, well, so-and-so wants a pair. I was like, yeah guy? And he's like, you know, the guy is so-and-so. I'm like, eh, fuck that guy. You know, and I don't like the guy. I'm not going to make him a pair. And then they're like, well, so-and-so wants a pair.

I was like, yeah, I like that guy. I'll make him a pair. And it was just very organic, natural like that, you know, where I would only make it for you if you were my friend or if I liked you. And if you weren't, I didn't care. And then after a while, we started giving it a name. Toehold, you know, we're just like, let's call it Tohold.

During this time, it's very, just me trying to make my own flip flops. That's all that I cared about. And then once we named it Tohold, we were like, maybe I'll sell a few pairs to a couple guys. And then, so we came up with a logo, and I texted to my dad, and he was like, oh, that's really cool.

He just said, that's really cool. Um, he just said like, that's really cool. And then, um, I sent him another log, like the actual, uh, finished logo and he's like, wow, buddy, you're really doing it. I'm super proud of you. And then that was the last text message I ever sent him. He immediately died of cancer right after that. He was alive for a little while, but just went from being healthy guy to just crash. You know, what kind of cancer? healthy guy to just crash. You know?

What kind of cancer? Prostate. How old was he? Like his early 60s. Which is crazy for our family, because everyone on our Russian side lives to be 100 at least. Wow.

Both my grandparents lived to be 100. My great grandma's like 103. My great uncle was like 107. They all lived to be forever. Rock. So, but one thing I've always had is like working at Apple and jobs is a really good work ethic. That's the most important thing. You're super good work ethic and if you're doing something

you have to do it well. Our family didn't teach us anything else. You know what I mean? Like don't be a scumbag, didn't really listen to that and work hard, that was it. Like, there was no, here's how you balance your checkbook. There was no, like, there's no life skills at all. Like, we were just, we grew up feral, you know,

for better purpose, better word, we grew up feral. But even, like, on the last days as my dad was dying, customers would message me, and I'd have his hand in my left hand and I'd have my iPhone in my right hand and I'd be messaging them back because it's wrong to leave a customer waiting. It's wrong, you know what I mean? And that's exactly what he would be like,

yeah, your customers are most important, the client's more important. And how long ago was that? Seven years ago, seven and a half years ago. So after that, I was like, well, that's the last thing my dad remembered me doing, I'm just gonna go all in on this. Run with it, yeah. You know, and I'm forever, I'm gonna do it forever,

nothing's ever gonna stop me. And ever since then, I've just been making flip flops and growing this company, and everyone was like, oh dude, do it in China, do it over here, get these materials, I was like, no, I want these to be the best. And every single human being I talked to told me I was doing it wrong.

Including me. Including Brian Callan. I was charging too much, you know, we all did. Yeah. Now you charge. On the merchandise, it's tough too because if you want to do it right and you don't want to use China,

there's a reason why everyone used China because the cheaper product, you know, slave labor, so everything's to be cheaper, but the products will be cheaper. Like brands that do it in America and do it the right way, you're, you're literally gonna pay for it. Oh yeah. You're gonna pay for it. Well, your, your thousand dollar flip-flops. They're our number one seller. Isn't that crazy? So we could, you could get some of our big flip-flops for like 500 bucks. We sell a lot of those, but our $1,000 and up is the ones that we have, like the man is in.

You have a pair now, right, for $7,000? $7,500 for the new world record. Our current world record is $5,000. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be like, I'd be like, A.G., you're not selling flip flops.

Where are the flip flops? I'd be like, shut the fuck up. Callan sent me this long message once, this really smart articulate on marketing and strategy on how we shouldn't use the girls and we should really highlight the product. Oh don't listen to him. He goes, he goes.

Yeah tell him what you said. So I just shut the fuck up. It was a long message, like a break up message. Like I thought about it. And I just responded back, gay. G-A-A-A. No way. No I I look at those like the marketing I think is what set you guys apart. Himalayan crocodile go back. Look at that shit. That's what that that's that air med shit. So yeah, I'd rock the fuck. I'm not a sandal guy. I'd rock the fuck. Most guys, bronze shark. That's

a bronze whaler. Wow. We don't really our skin oh I like the black elephant a yeah those are those are the number one such these word yeah black elephant with the gray straps tell them about like how you use animals like elephants but it's sustainable like so many mean elephants no no yeah emerald baby kill race is that you stepped up the game though purple elephant fuck those are nice where else you gonna get that nowhere in the world that's what I'm saying. Butterfly Stingray, look at that Stingray shit. That's incredible.

So the whole thing, and there's so much to it, but the main thing was it needs to be the best in the world. If you're going to charge that, it has to be. The price isn't even reflective of the amount of work. Do you guys have, who has Nikes on? So let's use an example with Nike. So a pair of Nike's, whether they're $60 Nike's or they're $1,000 Nike's.

They're the same quality. Yeah, they cost Nike around $4.50 to make. They're all made out of synthetic, like vinyl material. There's an endless, they have endless amounts of rolls to make them. It costs them nothing to make. $4.50, they could endless amounts of rolls to make them. They cost them nothing to make $4 and 50 cents. They could sell them for a thousand dollars. And the reason they go for that much is just because scarcity, right?

They're like, we're only making the Travis Scott. The Travis Scott's are limited. Yeah. Now they could produce seven billion if they wanted to. They're not out of fabric. They just do it limited to try to get that higher price. Yeah. The stuff you see on that screen, most human beings on this planet have never They're not out of fabric. They just do it limited to try to get that higher price.

The stuff you see on that screen, most human beings on this planet have never seen that stuff before. How many people have ever seen shark leather, elephant leather, all ethically sourced? It doesn't matter if you work at a gas station or you're a multimillionaire, everybody sees that shit for the first time.

Even the guys, I know some of the richest fucking guys like Dev, never seen nothing like this. And how did Gordon Ryan come into play? He's seen what we did. And he's like, dude, this fucking company, he bought some stuff. He's like, this company is incredible. He's like, you guys have the best customer service I've

ever seen. And we just started talking. He's the man, too. Yeah, as soon as you meet him, I got you. He's the man. He's the best. He was just really, really interested in the brand, and then, you know, he has sponsorships,

but he doesn't own anything, you know? Which is a problem. For all of them, yeah. A problem, yeah. For all of them. And we're huge in jiu-jitsu. We started in jiu-jitsu. We basically have, dominate the whole jiu-jitsu scene

as far as like money and exposure, but we're even bigger in the hunting community like the hunting community were gigantic makes sense I mean, that's the reason our company is valued as high as it is is because we have an enormous amount of hunters I mean truck drivers. We have dudes that own yachts that have these we have tons of cops tons of military It's just normal hard work. I'm a liberal. You're not fucking well I won't even sell flip-flops to a liberal if I find out you're a liberal council your order tons of military, just normal hard work. You guys aren't liberals? You're not woke? Fuck no. I won't even sell flip flops to a liberal. If I find out you're a liberal, I'll cancel your order.

I said the same thing. You go wide fast on gas. I said this car's not for you. This truck's not for you. If you're a liberal, if you voted Kamala, do not buy it. Yeah, no, we hate them. Yes, sir. So the thing with the flip flops is,

they're extremely difficult to make. So those Nikes we talked about, it costs Nike $4.50, they make $950 if you will, or $995 if you will. Huge money. Off each one. A pair of those elephant flip flops cost us like $600 to make in material.

So we make a few hundred bucks, but it takes somebody two years to even begin to work on a pair. They have to be extremely skilled. The material's very scarce, so if you fuck it up, that's it, there's no more. There's no more, it's gone. That's it, that's all that's on the planet.

That makes it cool though. They're super durable, they last for a long time, and what they have that's the most important thing is the vegetable tan leather we use is the way leather has been used throughout history, right? For thousands and thousands of years, all the way back to the Egyptians, the Romans, if you had a sheath for your sword, if you had the strap that went underneath your helmet, the strap for your shield, it was made out of vegetable tanned leather. And what that means is you'd get an animal hide,

and then you would get like a barrel or a drum, and you would soak it in these tannins of like tree bark and roots and stuff like that, and it would preserve the leather in an antimicrobial way that doesn't cause any adverse effects to people. The leather stuff people use nowadays, it's dog shit low level, like particle board, it's soaked in chromium.

We don't really talk about the healthy part of it, because that's kind of gay, but your dog could chew on these flip flops and be totally okay. And if your dog started chewing these flip flops, they wouldn't stop, because they're going to recognize the natural flavor of it. Your dog won't chew up your shoes,

because they don't even understand what the fuck those, yeah, they don't understand what that material even is. But our flip-flops, the number one way our flip-flops get destroyed is dogs. They always chew them up. They always chew them up. I wish you guys made car steering wheels. Right?

Yeah, they would never wear out. We get suggested, every day I get a suggestion, we just make flip-flops, dude. There's a four month waiting list to get these. Damn day I get a suggestion. We just make flip flops, dude. There's a four month waiting list to get these. Four months. So we always have about 500 in the queue. We ship out 20, 25 a day and 25 a day more come back in. It's just nonstop.

Good for you, brother. And the thing is, well, how do you maintain the growth and the quality control, right? It's tough. For me, it's easy. It's easy. We only move as fast as the quality control, right? For me, it's easy. It's easy. We only move as fast as the quality. So I won't move. I don't care if you have to wait two years.

The quality needs to be there and then it chips out. There's a few companies like that. There's a few companies that do it right and it's just you gotta be willing to A, pay for it, and then B, wait. Like Innovate Wheels, they're American made, it's owned by I think a son and his dad, and the wheels, sometimes it's a year wait list,

a two year wait list, but they're the best in the game. They're local, they're in SoCal. Craftsmanship on that level, like look at a Rolex, I can't just go buy a Rolex, can I? Or is that done on purpose? They're difficult to make. The craftsmanship in a Rolex, can I? Or is that done on purpose? No. They're difficult to make. They're difficult to make. Craftsmanship in a Rolex is really craftsmanship.

High level. Yeah, you need, what it takes for those guys to make that, it's years and years. Well, great wine is the same way. Like, the reason you pay so much is the amount of care that goes into that wine. They'll have a whole harvest and throw it away, because it's not up to their standards.

And the thing we'll tell everybody is, we're not for everybody. You know what I mean? If you can only afford seven. Here's my thing, AJ. You don't want to be for everybody. I don't want to be, no. I always tell you that.

I want you to appreciate both men and women. You don't want to be for everybody. That's right. You don't. If you're for everybody, you're doing it wrong. I agree. If everyone likes your shit, it's like, oh, this isn't what I represent, this isn't what I do.

I'm not for everybody, God knows that. You're not for everybody. You want your product for everybody. No, you're 100% right. As soon as you start trying to, I don't want to offend anybody, dude. No, there's something, so that's what I think about craftsmanship like that, it's truthful. It's the best you can do. You've always been evolving and always trying to create better stuff.

It's also an expression of you. You're a tough dude. You want quality. You're a good person. So the product's going to represent that. Yep. Then the other part too is, so I got this belief system that a lot of guys, a lot of companies rest on the fact

that they make a world class product. That to me is the most bottom level of what we do. Having the best product in the world is the price of admission. That's just what we have to do as American manufacturers to even be on, to even play on the field. Everything else we do is above and beyond. So the big thing is you go to any company,

if we just clicked on any business on Instagram, our favorite companies, and you sent them a message, they're advertising to you on Instagram, you sent them a message, you're not gonna hear back from them. You're not gonna hear back from them for a while, until one of their interns. Horrible customers.

Horrible, we're the opposite. We set everything up so that our best fucking people are talking to our customers. I'm the best person. So if you message us on Instagram, you're gonna either talk to me or I'm gonna talk through my assistant where she's reading the text message

and I'm saying exactly what to type out. That's our belief system because exactly what to type out. That's our belief system because it's weird, companies suck at getting you to spend money. They suck. And what I do is I take all the companies I deal with that I fucking hate and we make rules for toehold. For example, I got a helmet for a motorcycle I got.

I got this really nice Harley. They sent me the wrong helmet. Not a big deal, I called them up and I said, hey, you guys sent me the wrong one. Instead of saying, oh fuck, thanks for letting me know, I'll get you the right one out right away. Her solution was, would you like a refund? And I was like, you know what,

now that you mention it, absolutely. Because what's happened in that situation, if we analyze it, the CEO of that company is out doing something and he's paying some person whatever dollar amount he pays them to give away his money. He's already spent money on marketing, he's already got my sale, he's already gone, shipped everything, they've gone through the whole process and then

they're paying somebody to give his money back out. You know why? Because they got too big. Exactly. They got too big. Exactly. They got too big and they had jobs. Because you were on calls with jobs. He doesn't. You talking about Steven?

Yeah. Steven. Steven. I call him Stevie. Stevie. Steven. But the thing is we care more. Yeah.

That's it. We care more. But here's my thing, A.G. You care more right now because you can handle that bandwidth, but if it gets to a certain scale. Way bigger, it's easy. So, one thing I've always dealt with is how are we going to overcome this next obstacle?

At the beginning, it was just me making flip-flops. So the big question was, A.G., how could you possibly ever scale this, remember? How do you scale it, yeah. And I was like, I'm a fucking idiot. If I could learn to make flip-flops, I could teach other people to make flip-flops. Let's take a break. Let's take a break

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prove that other people can learn. It's super grueling, it's super hard. All of our staff are professional fighters. So they're like living out their careers to be in the UFC or whatever, but they're making fucking $78,000 a year making flip flops. Interesting, and do they have ownership of the company? No, no, no, no, that's sacred.

But they make a nice living, they got tons of perks. Here's what tow-hole perks look like working for us. You've done a good job, let's go out and shoot some pigs. Here's a brand new $4,000 AR rifle, like a Hegler & Koch rifle. Here's new rims for your car. We shower our employees with really nice stuff. That's cool.

It's the perks of working here. And how many employees do you have? We have six. That's the perks of working here. And how many employees do you have? We have six. That's it? Yeah. Six people that just do the manufacturing. We have a whole design team. We have guys that just do wallets,

but just for the flip-flops, there's six people that work on them. And you took your thing from Apple because they never lower their prices. No, Apple doesn't give a fuck. Apple's like, we're making the best shit on Earth, and this is what it costs, and if you want it, here it is. If you don it costs and if you want it,

here it is, if you don't. And people will pay it, if people pay for quality. The people who want quality want it. Now if you go to Louis Vuitton for say, all of us have some money, if we want to buy our gorilla bag, we could all go buy the same bag from them exactly the same way. The majority of what we do is custom.

So I might get a hide-in from Africa where this is the only one in the world. And like maybe your girl and your girl get a bag or whatever or a wallet or a pair of flip-flops and they're the only humans on this planet that have that, the only ones. And for that price, that's what you want. Yeah, and it's not even that crazy of a price.

No, but you know what I'm saying, like for that quality and stuff? They last forever. I bought Gordon's wife a bag for like $7,000 from Chanel. Like as a gift, just as like a welcome to the family gift. And I was like, this is nice, but it's not $7,000. You can tell. You can tell. Yeah. Oh, the markup. Hermes has the bag. Yeah, Hermes makes really nice bags. Really nice bags. Can I just switch gears for a second and just talk about, has Gordon talked about what it's like to roll with John?

Have they actually rolled hard? John. Jones. Oh yeah. Yeah, he could tap John whenever he wants. Really? Yeah. You stopped the fun conversation for that dumb ass question. I'm sorry, go back. You know what you would do to John? John's what, Brian? John's good at wrestling.

So I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but he says what John Jones- So as fast as John would beat him in MMA, Gordon would beat him in jujitsu, but probably faster and worse. Yes, dude. Really? So one thing he had said is, John Jones, if you hit something on him, you don't hit it a second time. He learns so fast and he's so good. He's like a computer.

Maybe you catch him with it a second time, but that's it. He's figured it out. But Gordon has a thousand ways to do it. A thousand. Yeah gordon's a supercomputer So when people say like what's so good about him people do that lazy. Well, he's big. He's strong Everyone's big and strong bro. There's not a move. We all have stuff. We're good at right. This is my move This is my trick. I'm good at this. I fuck I never go down this road gordon's a mastered every single possible Movement the human body can make all of them have

you have you met Gordon yeah he's super smart yeah super super high thank you yeah he's like one of those Boston dynamic robots bro yeah that just has all the information and yeah and he's strong as fuck he could not even know jujitsu and he'd be a handful just cuz how fucking strong he is he's like rock-hold told me he was he's so inhumanly strong. Yeah, I've tried I've rolled with a lot of UFC guys Some of them are fucking super technical and just destroy you in a million ways and some of them are super technical But they're hydraulic when you touch them like you can't even like you can't move their wrist that you can't do anything to them Who's that?

I'll give you one Eric spicy that motherfucker is like part chimpanzee really He's a beast. Yeah, just you can't move his joints. Nothing moves Do you see what I decided to fight? Yo, Romero and dirty boxing. It was so you took a short note that dude right there That motherfucker you could not get his grips off if you wanted to he's like a chimpanzee You know, we always talk about chimps are crazy strong? That motherfucker is retarded strong. He's one of fucking hundreds of guys. Hundreds of guys. It's not muscle strong, it's a different type of like.

The fibers are different. Hydraulic is the best way to describe it. Yeah. Jim, bring up for Brian. So you can get a hard on? Can I pause? Can we use a different, is chimpanzee a little too on Can I pause? Well, I hope. Can we use a different, is chimpanzee a little too on the mark here?

No, it's just strength. No, no. They woke fuck. You think we can't work on that? Hey, so chimpanzee strong. Is that what you're thinking about? Yeah, he looks so much like a chim. Okay, well I have to take that out for sure.

No, I'm saying, I'm saying, that's why I'm pausing. If you think that way, no, chimpanzee strong, it's a reference. All right. Yeah, he's he's he's really cool It's really funny. Yeah What you want bring up your Romero the highlight of that boxing he's first of all, he's not kind of weight. He's So big he's were you there when you were you were calling a fight? No, no This is this is not like Perry's crazy dirty boxing. So it's a smaller ring. Look how jacked he is in this

Oh my god, it he's a superhero But who the fuck's fighting him in in dirty? I can't imagine Jesus but Gordon I'll get it Gordon's comically strong Like when you grab him, it's you just start laughing because it's so fucking silly. It doesn't make any sense I know he's sense. I know I mean because I was doing a signing with the Mountain Thor and he was like, yeah This one short left look at him 45 No, he's 47. He's my hey, so come on. That's a Cuban 47. So he's probably 50. So look at him

Jack city, but I was talking to Thor and he was like, yeah, I went you rolled with my boy Gorn. He's like, yeah, I don't get it, man. You know, I'm so much bigger. And he was like surprised. And I was, I love Thor. He's the best. He's the salt the earth But I was kind of I'm like you thought you had a chance like you not he rolled with who with Gordon Oh, yeah, he's at yeah, he fucking did whatever you want. I'm like, yeah. Yeah you thought you would too With with Thor not as easy as Gordon. No, but but yeah, yeah, I would tap him out. But no but not like You're talking. I don't know that has him in the air like this Gordon he spider guard do one of the fuck you want to do Jesus Christ Although this 400 pound Bambam over here deadlifted how much?

say Like no, no, no you but but for time you did really all there. Yeah, what was how much was it? But for time you did really... Oh there, yeah. What was, how much was it? In a minute you did like some crazy number. Yeah, I forget. I forget. And then you pulled that truck like you were...

Pulled the truck. I lost to him by a second. I mean it's not bad. Oh I seen that video. That was impressive. Yeah, I count them all and shut up about how strong you are. Well you're strong. Yeah, just do it in the right crowds man.

I don't need problems, you know? Yeah. We're talking about hydraulics. AG does some right crowds, man. I don't need problems, you know, yeah I'm just we're talking about strong guys, man Bet yo l I I mean just the fuck that's it Who the fuck is signed up for a paycheck to fight him short notice? I get frustrated watching him fight because I just want him to wrestle and look at his throw. Look at his dude Look at his fucking that's ridiculous. His lats goes like just ears. He's built like a stingray. Yeah, I mean, it's a whole different That's a cybernetic organism. That's a. His lats? It goes like just ears. He's built like a stingray. Yeah, I mean, it's a whole different, that's a cybernetic organism.

That's a whole different thing. His skin's gonna tear. He has so many steroids in him. Yeah. How dare you say it takes steroids? Well, now he probably does for sure. I mean. For sure. And by now, I mean forever.

But. So in, you had mentioned before that you went to that haunted mansion in Las Vegas, remember? Zach Baggins? Zach, yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah, Zach's my boy. Our lodge is right next door. That we share a fence.

Oh, sick. The Freemason Lodge. And the parking lot where most people park is in our parking lot when we're not in session. Oh, love it. There's this Jiu Jitsu guy, Jean-Jacques guy that came out from LA to Vegas to build that place over the course of like a couple of years. And I forgot what it is,

but what's like the final thing they have there? Like, uh, they have something with it. They don't know for everybody. It's like the VIP, whatever. And Zach was like, dude, you have to go in the basement, the basement yourself, right? Cause in the basement is where there's satanic like Conjuring is like meetings, but they also murdered two people down there. Yeah, so it's so scary My buddy built this place. I want to say his name, but I don't know if I should but he built the whole place He's he does like set design in Hollywood really high level. No, I was a beautiful

mansion in Malibu, really wealthy guy. And as it went on, you could just see his personality started to change, like from working there. I just figured it's stress from the job. He'd come in and train with us, and then I'd walk next door and like talk to him over the fence, and he's like, you wanna go in and see the place? I'm like, fuck no, I don't wanna see that shit.

So check this out. So he put the finishing touches on the building, had to come back for a few more trips, and then one day in the middle of the night, this is his wife telling the story, this is John Jock and his wife telling me, you know, they're in bed, it's dark, he just sat straight up in bed, put his feet on the floor, got up, walked out the bedroom, out the front door,

and he's never been seen since. What? Yeah. Like for years, just vanished, just got up and vanished. And family, kids, beautiful wife, everything. No history of mental health? Nothing. No, normal guy, just a fucking guy's guy, dude.

Damn. Brian's face. Yeah. What? And when you were talking about that, sat up and just walked, sat up in bed, turned, put his feet on the floor, stood up and just like Frankenstein walked out the front door. There's something to it too, because when they had Post Malone and he did like a

private tour with Zach, he has that it's supposedly the most haunted thing in the world and Zach bought it for whatever millions of dollars. And Post goes, Oh, I want to take it out and touch it. And Zach goes, please don't do that. He's like, come on, man. He's like, dude, I'm telling you, we shouldn't do this. He does it. Post Malone's flight crashed. He survived. His flight crashed. The next day he had a concert. He fell through concert Floor in Florida he got then after that a week later because it comes in threes. I guess a week later gets in a car crash I Don't know

crazy, right Wow, dude. Wow Yeah, it's so scary Yeah, my brother was so scared. Yeah. Yeah. We were so scared. I loved it though. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's wild dude crazy, right? I wonder where he went. Yeah, who knows? I don't know. I was hoping something cool like you have a side chick or something. Oh, he just vanished into the night. I'll tell you. It's just just walked. I haven't said this but I'm yeah. So unfortunately, um, I didn't tell anybody,

but our, the woman who helped us with our children. You told me this. Yeah, well I didn't tell the podcast, but the woman who helped us with our children and the house and stuff, she was murdered by her boyfriend. And he's in jail now. And this was about two months ago. And it was really devastating.

The chick this morning when I turned on your bedroom? No, no, no, no, no, no. It was a ghost. Yeah and it was really not the chick this morning when I know It was it was a ghost. Yeah, it was um, and my my wife is very close to her and stuff like that. So I will say that I will say that So my man my wife I I've been having these crazy So my wife comes up and she goes I'm not sleeping in that room anymore My wife, I've been having these crazy, so my wife comes up and she goes, I'm not sleeping in that room anymore. And I go, why?

It's our bedroom. She goes, yeah, no, she was in the house all the time. She goes, and that was her favorite room in the house. That, our bedroom. She would like clean there, she liked it, because it's got a, you can hear the, we have a water thing outside, she likes it. So she goes, I'm not sleeping in there. I go, why? She goes, because I keep getting pulled under

the like into the bed and shaken. And I, and I, and I'm like, and you know, I don't believe in any of that stuff. None of that. Okay. None. Yeah. Okay. I'm having a hard time myself. You know that right. And so she, I I so I look at her and I go I Go what what's happening? You know and she goes She will jump on my stomach I'll go like this or she'll pull me under why would she do that because she there's a whole reason for that Which I which there's a whole reason that actually makes a lot of sense. Okay, so Okay, I'll just say it. My wife's trying to help her

because my wife figured out she was being abused by this man. When, and that's why my wife is so devastated, because she was trying to help her. Because she knew she's being abused at home and she's trying to get her out. Yes, said you gotta leave this guy. Yes. According to this woman's cousin,

when she did say that, he killed her. And then he got in his car and took off and The psychic told my wife that he was going to come to my wife's I was on the road. He was going to my house he was gonna go and settle a score for her telling her that yeah, and And then he said he just couldn't do it and then the cops caught him. Okay, then he went to jail. And he's in jail. That's what a psychic said. There's all this stuff.

Either way. Crazy white dude? That night, that night, my wife was having a dream. That night, she was having a dream. And the broom and everything, like we had to sing, everything fell in the kitchen. And my wife grabbed the gun and went upstairs, thinking there was an intruder.

So my wife's convinced gun and went upstairs thinking there was an intruder. So my wife's convinced that that was our lady who had been murdered saying, wake up, grab the gun, because he's coming. Now I'm not a believer in any of this stuff. I don't believe in any of this. Okay? I just don't. Sorry.

I know it sounds like a great coincidence. Okay. So she says, she keeps, like I getting she's she's trying she's trying to tell me she's sorry, you know, and all this stuff. Whatever the case she would get she kept getting pulled into the bed, like into the bed and she had she would get like somebody would jump on her. And I looked at her like this. Now you know, I don't believe in this. Yeah. Well, I was having the same exact dreams. What the fuck? I was having the same exact dreams. What the fuck? What?

I was having the exact same dreams. Well, where were the dreams? Oh, I don't know. Getting pulled all the way under. I'm confused. So you didn't actually get pulled into the bed. You were dreaming. Dreaming.

Okay. But I was also awake. Like, I remember being awake, and then I got woken up with, boom, she jumped on my stomach. Exact same dreams. And then when I told her that, forget it. Are you full of shit?

I go, I'm actually not full of shit. I'm actually not, that's actually true. Here's the difference. Subconsciously though, did she tell you that dream and then you had that dream? Okay, very, very good question. Very good question. And that would always be the answer.

The truth is no. No. The truth is I was also having it. Now is yours different because you're being held down by guys? Well that is, I was in prison and I was being held by a bunch of woods. It sounds like Cruz's the nightmare and yours is a dream. Is that what it is? There's a lot of black guys in a gangbang. Okay I never said that but I mean it may be now that you say that. What's funny about me with any kind of stuff like that is it doesn't scare me because I'm not afraid of ghosts

so what I do is I try to like I Don't know. I just kind of Speaking of gang bangs. How insane is the diddy shit? Have you gone deep into it? He's gone down that rabbit. I haven't gotten Surface level when you talk about gang bangs, what are we talking about here?? Oh dude, they were gang banging kids boys girls Teenagers dudes old dudes fat black dudes. He fucked He walks in the room. He's like, oh look at those attractive people everything It was a power thing too

Like there was a guy who came out was like yeah, he you know put his dick in my mouth and force You know fuck my mouth. Well, that's the guy he had merch I guess he was gonna sell his line the other guy had a competing line at Macy's There's a number of guys. There's literally there's Hundreds of YouTube's or yeah YouTube videos Some of them are older stuff that people said in the past and nobody believed Some of them are brand new that people are talking about they have photos of them being together and stuff But a lot of it is like they were smoking crack gang banging like some young chicks

And then one of the guys he had one of the girls had said she her words She was like he made the older white Jewish dude Fuck me cuz he said if he don't fuck me, I'm gonna fuck him, you know Like just a crazy just a power like crazy weird. Wow bad. No, he's supposed to take the stand He is yeah his lawyers going to let him do that? Yeah, because they're threatening right now, like, some of y'all better figure this out because he's about to release some names. Who knows?

I think he ends up dead before he's able to speak. They have so, the people that the accusers are saying, they're everybody. Is it? They're everybody. All the big names. Yeah, can we say what they said? Yeah. So one chick had said JLo stuck a bottle inside her

when she was 14. Another chick had said that a limo driver had brought her to a party, they got her, they drugged her and Diddy and DiCaprio like ran a train on her. Like I mean just endless, endless. So it's Jacob the jeweler, he's involved in it. Like it's, I mean these are what they're saying online.

But yeah. But a lot of, is that online, that's what I say, is that an online chatter? They're Instagram interviews with people and they're showing like, here, this is my Polaroid. I was at this party, this is what happened. And then you got the guys like that soft white underbelly guy that does all those videos he remembered a chick starting to tell a story about a diddy

party years ago so he went back found the footage found the chick brought her back in for a follow-up and she was saying that she went in so you weren't allowed to go inside the house unless you were invited they gave you certain slippers which meant you could go in the house We I get toehold flip-flops involved in that you know I mean no But but she was saying when he went inside there was guys fucking there was guys fucking girls There's like a big orgy, but there was she called them little people But there because she didn't want to flag it there were kids in like fishnet stockings and g-strings tables right holding cocktails Like there's got to be like if people have an orgy in their adults in like fishnet stockings and G-strings. On tables, right? Holding cocktails and stuff like that. Here's my thing about that.

Like, there's gotta be, like if people are having an orgy in their adults, there are plenty, I'm all, that's all good, all good. There are plenty people in orgies. I like a nice orgy. If you see, if you saw a, you know, 13 year old, there are a lot of people that'd be like, what the fuck is going on here?

You know what I mean? That's why I don't buy it. Because a lot of times I'm like, there are too many people who would, that's fair. They were like, too many people would be like. It depends though. She said she left when she seen the kids. She was like, fuck, this shit's sinister.

Because she was all like, entirely. There was a lady doing an interview like that. She was on TikTok and she was saying, she went to authorities, did all this stuff because she was a kid and they would bust them in. So it was like a group of kids. From where? She's older now. They found them from orphanages. They find them where they didn't have parents. She came from that and she showed up. So she's like, I was standing on a table and she was like, it wasn't during the regular party.

It was like a party and then the people that stayed were the people that are in. So here's my thing. I don't doubt that there are people that do this or would do this. You don't think it's Pete Diddy? It's not that. I don't have, I don't think, I don't I don't doubt that there are people that do this or would do this. You don't think speed Eddie I it's not that I don't have I don't think I don't put anything past him after I saw that Cassie video of him Beating the shit out of her what I'm saying is this I? Think he's a very bad guy. I'm saying that like I think when when the actual Dutsettles and the courts and the the prosecutors have looked at all the evidence you won't find case You won't find that information be you that information if if he is doing that yes powerful people involved like Epstein You're not gonna find out the list you're gonna find out the details. Why not? Oh because they they want to be I don't know

If you can well, here's how the feds work Yeah When the feds arrest you the feds don't arrest you and then investigate the feds take years of investigation And then the last thing they do once they've gone before the grand jury, once they've gone before the attorney general, and the case is closed, then they go and grab you. And if more stuff comes out, they'll add to it. So right now, the feds have,

they just want to get them on the Rico racketeering, all that sort of stuff. That's all they need. Everything else will close up. But as soon as these kids get involved, he literally has like 300 civil suits against him right now. Wow. 300. And all they need is one of those kids.

You know what I mean? The FBI's interviewing all of them, talking to all of them. Wow. That's what I mean. He's so fucked. What I'm saying is the FBI is pretty thorough. So I'm going to wait for that report and I'm sure it'll be damning. You're not going to get a thorough report is what I I'm saying. Okay. Well, I think you will I think What to do? Oh really have you seen the Epstein list unless there's politicians politicians are different they have Top tier, you know decision-making and you don't think there's some on that list. I say that's I'm saying

That's why I can see there is yeah, you know, there's Hollywood guys. Those Hollywood guys are fuck those Hollywood guys are fuck I don't think politicians can do that much. They they can't call the FBI. What have you seen that scene list? You don't be politicians are on there. There's a very good reason for that. There's There's different levels exactly why because I'm gonna I'll tell you exactly why love there because it you're now you're dealing with Intelligence agencies now you're dealing with the Mossad now you're dealing with the CIA Now you're dealing with national security issues and you're dealing with the Mossad. Now you're dealing with the CIA. Now you're dealing with national security issues and you're dealing with a guy who was working for probably Israeli intelligence. Yes. So now- That has an entire list of government, presidents, officials. Yeah, but Bubba, that's a very different power structure.

You're crazy. You're a rapper who has a lot of money. You're crazy if you don't think there's some Democrats on that list. You're crazy. I don't think there's some Democrats on that list your crazy Democrats Good luck. Good luck dealing with the Justice Department now, but what's the bond is bond is ever but like a Love is a Republican. She's she loves Trump. You're not gonna get shit by her What exactly is a list is it his flight logs? Cuz anybody could have been on the no I think what I think what happened is two eyewitnesses who are given two things I think happened like once you sign in when you who were given out two things. I think happened Like what's that you sign in when you get to the island? What's the actual list? I think what happened is this?

I really think this is what happened all those victims all those victims had lawyers and They went to all these powerful people with a lot of money and they said we have tape on you We have this that yeah, and you're talking about people with crazy amounts of yeah, and people got paid So a lot of people in that Epstein thing I think you'd find have been just they just went away because they got a crazy payday now It might have been from you know shell company that was an intelligence agency

Whatever is but they made that shit cover. It doesn't care. Well the government needs Witnesses who are willing to testify. That's what I'm saying. Those witnesses got paid off, right? Or intimidated beyond a measure, you know, shadow of a doubt, but probably paid off to a large degree. I think, because remember, who was it? It was a lot of like professional women.

It was a lot of younger girls. Who knows where they are? It gets tricky too when the main guy... But once they hire lawyers, they hire lawyers, they go, hey, the lawyers always reach out and say, you know, hold on, before we do that, let's see if we can get you 10 million dollars. Well, this, Diddy, the original girl that came out,

went to him first like, hey, I want money, and Diddy went, fuck you. She went, okay, cool, but she had a whole thing of information, of evidence, And a prosecutor saw this like, oh, there's a massive case. Did you hear how like the whole thing broke open? Did you hear the Jamie Foxx thing? Yeah, but that's also rumor, right? No, it's not. That's it. So how he got sick. So Jamie Foxx, so Jamie Foxx says this in his special, they take your phone away so they don't have the footage of it. But the people in his audience was like, this is

what Jamie Foxx said as we were recording a special, which will air shortly. Jamie Foxx said that P Diddy drugged him and gave him like a pneumonia or some shit. We all thought he was in the hospital because of COVID or vaccine or something. Yeah. Jamie Foxx says in a special, I went to the FBI. I'm the one that got all this started. This is what his audience is saying after the recording. Who were at his live taping.

Correct. What the fuck? But is that going to be in his special? Yes. Well, that's, they said it's going to be, you know, it's part of his act. Like he brings it up in his act. Fuck. It's how crazy is Jamie Foxx fucking. Kick this off?

Why would Jamie Foxx have beef with P. Diddy? He's trying to kill him. Who knows? Yeah, well, what the people, the audience had said was it was something about that he was filming at the party, like showing what was going on, and Diddy was like, yo dog, put your phone away, you know? That's what the audience is saying. And then he didn't, and then wound up getting pneumonia'd.

Yeah, you never know the way Jamie might also be You what Josh and you know, I don't know. No, you went Josh about that. Yeah, the reason you got sick You're blaming p.p. That wouldn't be something but how would you even know that somebody gave you cyanide could be so rational, bro I know I like it. I'm very irrational. I'm liking it. You're not fun. No, I like a sip. I like I like I should give some current events. Yeah, I'm curious what's gonna happen with fun. No, I like it. Have a sip. Have a sip. I like it. All right, so give some current events. Yeah, I'm curious what's gonna happen with you. I thank you guys so much for having me.

Hey, dude, you, if I could find somebody who can hit every topic Shob is into, you did it. Wanna go out to fish tanks? I love fish. He breeds, tell him about this. Oh yeah. Yeah, check this out, Doug. So, just on the side, I started breeding

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And how are they different than like your standard pets for ball pythons? So they don't get, oh, can you go to Instagram and pull up Las Vegas Las Vegas ball pythons on Instagram? Yeah Do you know chop out there? I? Know of him. I don't know him. I never met you guys who know each other was that Las Vegas ball pythons. It's my boy Steve's page So the crazy thing with the genetic so a ball python only gets like four feet long. So look at that one in the middle there, the first one.

Oh, he's cool. Something like that would take 20 years of breeding to create. That's incredible. And they would have gone for, this has been out for a while, but they would have gone for like $25,000 for a snake like that. It only gets like four feet long.

A great pest, I had one. It likes to live in the dark. It's not gonna like you could just you go to Grease for two months and you don't need to fucking worry about it. Just get the temperature right you have a beautiful pet There's all about the color or two crazy colors Almost like koi fish like the more you know about it the crazier it gets They're pretty nice. Like they're great with kids, and they don't... Stop it. I had one.

Look at that one. Dude, I had the regular ball python. Yes. And you guys built some cool aquariums for him to live in? So they like these tubs because they live under termite mounds in Africa. So they want to live in the dark and they want nothing to do with you. They don't want, like you don't need to go home and see them. They're super docile.

You can pick them up. Oh yeah. Yeah, I ask them to kiss them and stuff. They're cool. Oh wow. Look at that one. Now are some mean and try to bite me sometimes? Yeah.

I'm sure. I almost got bit in the face by one of my big ones. Burmese pythons, fuck with you. I got two Burmese. They're nasty. And they're reticulated. You ever reticulated? Yeah.

Do you not like snakes? No. Look at that. And do you feed them live rats? Live rats, yeah. Live rats, yeah. That's not a pet. Yeah, it is.

No, it's not. You just said they don't want to be touched. They want to be left alone. No, they have no problem being touched. Yeah, you can pick them up, but they don't need your affection. Like a dog. Yeah, they don't need you, yeah.

They're kind of like cats. Yeah, they're just, they're cool, beautiful jewelry to have, go check out. But that's what I'm doing on the side. So they're their whole subculture. That's your side hustle? I have like 105 of them. Oh my God.

Why? Oh my God. At your house? Yeah. We have some bangers too, dude. We're going to make some of the world's first. Stuff humans have never seen before. I'd love to see them.

Yeah, so that's a thing. I don't want one as a pad, I've got enough of them. I'm the only one. Those are cool. I'm the only one. I'm out to the studio. No. Thanks for having me on.

Just enjoying. Starving snake. just a Starving snake Like how cool that is the broken pad? Yeah, he's pretty cool a cool head stamp on there for sure And we're cool with these ball pythons. They're all matte color too. So they look cool. They look Jim Would you fuck with a snake? I feel like you just think I when I was younger. I used to love Don't you have a snake tattoo? Same thing my son When I was younger, I used to love snakes. Don't you have a snake tattoo? Same thing. My son would fuck some of that.

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Yeah, they're all great. They're all great and And a brown belt, even though they want to give you your black belt. Yeah, I keep avoiding the black belt. Why? That's just because, chicks like brown belts. Anyone can get a black belt. Anyone can get a black belt. Which one do you like?

The Trump Trump Tire. Yeah. Yeah, Coach Casey said during our grand opening, he was going to give me a black belt belt. They said he opened up his drawer He didn't have my size. So he just said fuck it. I'll do it later Did you have peanut the squirrel never forget? Yeah. Oh, that's great. That one. Let's see I saw a lot of those rash guards that we saw on you know that story where they put oh, yeah, that's great They never forget that's fucking

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wouldn't normally pull on, you could break it. Just like a truck, if you have a truck that could tow a lot, and you tow it from like the door handle, it'll break. I'm such a gazelle. Look at the size of him. You're doing it in prison, you're telling the stories. Yeah, bro. What?

You're telling the stories in Jack and the Sloth at night? You're gonna be a, hey, you're gonna be a Fifi in prison. What's a Fifi? It's a jerk off thing. You get a towel, you wrap a towel, you get a latex glove in the middle, you wrap a towel around it, then you pull it over and you just bang it, bro.

It'd be a Fifi. You'd be a Fifi. That's right, Jim. You're so good at this. Love it. It'd be a Fifi. That's right, Jin P. Love you guys. Brian's a Fifi. Real quick, thank you so much, A.G. A.G. actually hooked me up with sandals because my buddy, he loves sandals

and he was going through some tough times. You mean flip flops? Or flip flops, sorry. Sandals are what gay Romans wear. Yeah, dude. Straight American's wear. Get it right, Jin. Yeah, but A.G. just hit me, he's like,

dude, whatever you want, any prices, just do it. Just customize it. I think I'm going to do it for you guys. Thank you so much for that. Yeah, but A.G. just hit me. He's like, dude, whatever you want, any, you know, prizes, just do it. Just customize it. I think I can do it for you guys. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it.

A.G. was a listener forever. Yeah. Yeah, so when I started the company, I would just, you're by yourself, you're always alone. You know, your friends only want to hang out for a little while. Yeah. And I'd always have the pod in the background,

I'd have Rogan in the background. I love it. And I would just listen and just keep, and then put a business podcast on where it was like the The guys who started Home Depot and like the guys who started Ben and Jerry and they're telling their like story on how they started Yeah, and that's the only thing motivating you to keep going. I keep in mind we're in Vegas. It's a hundred and twenty degrees Sweatshirt. Yeah a straight-up sweatshop So have you seen this video yet of a female triathlete?

Triathlon athlete that said to the camera like just don't catch my backside cuz he I should show her hands. Yeah And she won first place Does anyone show up? I just shit myself. So can you not get my ass? Sorry. I just shit myself. Just a beast. What a beast.

Yeah. That's fucking gross. I mean, that is not, yeah. It's fucking gross. Did you get paid? Let's go back up. That's what you get for running. Yeah.

Yeah, they shit themselves. $210,000. I'm sure Cam Haynes has shit himself. I am not interested in that. This is an older one, but this Instagram thing is awesome. It's called Turons of National Park. Tours of National Parks? Turons, like a moron of, okay, so just watch.

Turons. Goddamn coyotes. Watch. Hey. There we go. Why is he trying to pet this fucking- He's dumb, Coyote. That's a young coyote, that's abstin-

Still though. It's a young coyote that's still though Thank you, what do you do? Yeah, so tourists morons basically is what it's saying. That's what you get man Oh, we don't you watch that one this one. I thought this is so frustrating to me. Oh, I see a Siberian tiger in China And this is a farmer I mean this is nuts and there's a farmer Jesus that guy's so lucky that thing everybody but check him out here Brent. This is what's so frustrating after you see the whole video This is after no no so you'll see This is a full tiger is ginormous yeah, dude He didn't jump over. I see not running faster

That's frustrating, right? I would already be inside. Yeah, I'd be done. I'd be out I'm surprised didn't jump over and eat him and then look what probably so malnutrition instead of going into the house He's just like that's a dumb guy. They don't usually attack. Well says who? They don't they're not they don't hunt humans so that's probably Listen that thing Tigers kill tons of humans. Wow scary time. They wear masks in aft in India Yeah Different I would play this on shop show, but this is a Chinese. Do you know about her? You see fighter? She's a she's a she is scientist or doctor doctor. She's a doctor. She can't see very well Her parents don't know she fights professionally and she won by head kick KO viral head kick KO. Yeah

Wow Well, I don't want to like show the video because we can't show it anyways, but yeah, hold on You're still working as a dog. Wow. She's like I'm actually China licensed doctor. I'm actually have a doctor job at daytime. Then I train. I'm just a normal girl. Congratulations.

Thank you sister. You also show. That's just so bad. She won by a heck. I heard Peter Yan, you said looked really good. Really good, yeah. 18 month layoff, had knee surgery, pieced up figurino.

Okay. Okay, so I got one. You guys are talking about steaks and the best steaks you ever had. This woman in Australia was eating at the Lone Star Rib House and was cutting open her steak and found maggots in it. Oh, that's such a problem.

That's such a problem. Yeah. No, that's not good. Did you see Kevin, oh, what's his name? Kevin the fighter, Kevin Lee, his brother who does the key food. He ate a piece of sushi and multiple people that ate the same time. He's eating sushi. You have to go back and link in the video as he's eating the sushi. You see like a worm, a worm or something on the eats and got super sick and the restaurant had to get shut down

I don't really like raw oysters because they could have big worms in them But if you take yeah, if you take a big you look up look it up online. That's fine. Why did you tell me? That's you are worms or not have worms if you take a lemon and douse everything with lemon it kills a lot of that stuff Oh, I do. I put hot sauce lemon horserad a lot of that stuff. Oh well. I do. I put hot sauce, lemon, horseradish, vinegar. That's a Maggi, I think. Is there a video? You can eat it. I don't think so.

Would you, you'd get sick though, yeah? No. No, not necessarily. So this fitness influencer apparently could not wait for the flight to land and just got up in the middle of the hall, like what is this called, like runway, I don't know what it's called aisle and it's doing her workout routine depends how hot she is okay come on guys I mean this is she's a

warlock wow she just wants attention how long is the flight yeah she flying from like Dubai long haul flight by turning the aisle into a personal jet that's a 35 hours appreciate I appreciate it. What language is that? Okay, but scroll down and look at her. Scroll down. Keep going. She's on her back.

Oh, she's, yeah, well, she's fine. Yeah, she's fine, that's what it takes. It's already so cramped in that aisle, you guys, come on. That's what it takes. There's a lot of room, people probably sleeping, she's trying to get blood flowing. Do you wanna get stabbed? That's it, I've done that.

I've actually done that. Yeah, I get up and stretch my legs. Yeah, it's hard on a get blood flowing. Didn't want to get stabbed. That's it. I've done that. I've actually done that. Yeah, I get up and stretch my legs. Yeah, it's hard on a long flight. I'm too big for that shit. I can't stand it. People are mad at her? Yeah, people were upset.

Well, that's because they're fat and they're out of shape. So they can fuck off. I think there should be more of that on planes. I said it. Hot chicks just get passes for stuff. Yeah. You got to do no wrong. I'm not doing what? Okay. She's ugly. You can do no wrong. I'm not doing what? Okay.

She's ugly. Hey, sit down, please. I'm trying to eat. Okay. Yeah. This is my last one. So this guy who made millions of dollars in Bitcoin has started to hide these $2 million, or like a total of $2 million treasure chests all around the United States.

They don't have money in them, but they have things like Michael Jordan's 1986 rookie card, That's sick. and all these other gold artifacts, but they have things like Michael Jordan's 1986 rookie card and all these other gold artifacts and they're all over. And he's like told everyone, he put out a book. If you scroll down, it's called there's treasure inside that tells people where to find these. They're not hidden or buried. They're all like, I think six miles from a main road. Cool.

And he's like, anybody can find it. It's good marketing. Oh my God. I love that. Expensive marketing, but yeah, that's cool. Three miles of a public road, yeah. And he's like, I started it because during COVID I was really bored and then I thought the idea would be fun

and it literally has like artifacts in the box. Things that he's purchased. Damn. That's pretty cool. That is really cool. You know the one I sent you? Me? Because Elon said he's gonna buy MSNBC maybe or CNN. Oh, yeah, he said he take Rachel Maddow spot. I

Love it. See Rachel Maddow crying over Elon's meme. No crying on air. What? The world is so I gotta see that I know it is hold on So we're gonna ask that he would be incident or Rachel Maddow's role if Elon Musk buys MSNBC Statement follows Elon Musk suggesting that he is considering purchasing MSNBC after Comcast reveals plans to put the Network off her cell look Rachel Mattos a nasty person you know she may be crying But she's been very nasty and very untruthful, and there's a reason people are crying over the Elon Musk meme Cuz Elon Musk That's a pretty funny meme. She's always on who's this chick?

Rachel man well She's taking a lot of shit and she also realizes that I'm sorry ready for this guys Well her ratings are missing cut her salary by MSM MSNBC's ratings are down five million. I mean, I'm sorry 80% they're down 80% Let me tell you something. They're not only are they down 80% mark Cuban The only reason they were making money was because of the cable carriage fees, correct they don't make money for advertising the advertisers are all pulling out and now those cable carriage fees are all gonna go away So it's like you guys you guys took everything out of context you you were watching shit What's this you guys were the leading cause of misinformation?

That's a check fuck off. Yeah, it's a GD. Just to at least three It's a JG dude. To at least three... Dangerous meme. Have you seen the meme? Put up the graphic of this. You know, I was trying not to buy... Wait, what is that? It's him as Jesus with a hot chick and the MSNBC logo on her ass.

It's a famous meme, like he's praying not to smash. Wait, why is she crying about that? Yeah. Because he's going to buy the network and fire her. And Rogan's going to replace her. Oh, I would keep her. And now she's crying. I would keep her.

I would force her to work. I'll buy it, but she has to work. And now she's crying. She has to go back and apologize for years. Has to apologize and push for the right news. Don't take things out of context. You know he didn't say there are fine people on both sides. You know that's not the last thing that's what he said.

He said, he said, he said, I condemn those white, the neo-Nazis and white nationalists utterly. That's what he said. You guys never said that, so fuck off. Yeah, you're too mad, right? Of course I'm mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they peddle in misinformation.

You're ruining this segment, right? Yeah, I know. Look at this mad, right? Yeah. But I'm, of course I'm mad because they, they, they, they peddle in the segment, right? Right. Right. Yeah. I know. Look at this though. That it's fake. Look, this video has been altered. This is originally Mattos reaction to certain immigration

policies under Trump administration. Oh, geez. That would make more sense. They gamed us. What is that? Is that X correcting the video? Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, that's so funny. You guys are such shitheads. All right. She is unattractive I don't have a problem with any of that I don't want to make fun of how somebody looks I'm talking about nah fuck her though yeah all's off with her yeah as the CEO of Toho I say she's ugly yeah most people say that guys I'll see you at a wise guys comedy club this Friday. I'm so excited. Oh, Wise Guys will be fun from Thanksgiving? Yeah, dude. Salt Lake City.

You always do that. Yep. Spend a time with my family. They're going to be there. Wise Guys Comedy Club, Salt Lake City. I'll see you there Friday, Saturday. Come get some. And then I got Magoobie's Joke House.

That's a great one too. I love Magoobie's. Timonium and Barrel. Yep. December 6th and 7th. That's going to be great. And then I got Denver, Colorado comedy works December 12 13 14 Come get some you're all over the road Dark horse for dry fast all gas. It is our black Friday. The black is Friday started early black Friday cyber Monday

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