The Flop House - Ep. #215 - The Lazarus Effect

Episode Date: October 15, 2016

Shocktober continues! On this episode we discuss the Flatliners-esque Lazarus Effect. More specific shownotes canceled on account of Dan's sick. Wikipedia synopsis for The Lazarus Effect Movies recommended in this episode: Viy Pet Sematary The Shallows Shin Godzilla

On this episode we discuss the Lazarus Effect. Spoiler alert, the Lazarus Effect is mainly putting us to sleep. Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Ugh, I'm Stuart Wellington. And having just brought Stuart back from the dead apparently I'm Dr. Elliott Kalin. And I'm Halle Haglint. What? Y'all. A cowgirl just wants to. Hey y'all.

Are we ready to have some fun? Great. I'll get you some pee came pie. Where are you? Where's a cowgirl tree? Why are you so far? Are you serving us? I came from the south. I'll get you some P came Girl treat Serving us I came from the South, but now I live in the West Okay, your character work checks out

This is a very elaborate backstory As has become a flop house tradition We're joined for the Shocktober episode by Hallie Haglund. And I think that all of our audience... Star of the show. Our entire audience right now is wondering one burning question, which is, have you seen it goes? Yeah, this is an end of every Halloween you gotta check in.

Well, I work with you every day, Dan, so... Oh, no! No, that means you got burnt. Oh That means I see a burp your ghost Damn Not officially stay no no Stay that but I have really appreciated all the Twitter messages people have have been thinking of me over This is how we in season.

Over there is that Bradley Cooper, star of the movie, Dan got burnt. That was a scratch. I got there eventually, okay. Oh you guys, that wasn't worth it. Did you guys ever watch Burns? We didn't even get to the part. Oh good, because that was like such a good movie. Yeah.

Serious. Remember when he walks into the room and he tastes her sauce and he's like, this is what you're missing. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And everyone was like, I'm in love with him. Wait. I like the part where he kind of flirted with her daughter. I like the part where she was like, I brought my daughter here because it's her birthday.

And then he's like, the thing she would really wanna spend her birthday doing is hanging out with me, an asshole. So, Danda, we watch Burnt. Oh, no. We were on this podcast, we watched the movie, Burnt, and talk about that. This is the Burnt House. We've seen Burnt 50 times now, and let me tell you.

Oh, but you haven't watched it for the show? No, we did watch it for the show. Oh, okay. No, we just watched it, 50 times for fun. Yeah, you. Oh, but you haven't watched it for the show? No, we did watch it for the show. Oh, okay. No, we just watched it. 50 times for fun. Yeah, just to see if we could. We were being interrogated by the police. They're trying to break our will.

Oh, okay. Got a, you got a movie to show you guys. Oh, I just hope it's not burnt. That's what they do. I go, go news, it's burnt. Oh, man. Just keep playing burnt over and over again. Yeah.

No, we watched it. Now, that's what I call a filmist fire. A what? A what? What? It's films and it's a fire and it's burnt. A film? A filmist fire.

Uh huh. Alright, let's edit this out. You get it as little as I was like. Alright, it's like, it's little now as I do. Alright, slow away. It's like forest fire, I think. Exactly. But instead of, I get it. A bunch of trees, it's a bunch of, I guess, rolls a film that catch on fire. I see.

My mistake was in assuming that the words sounded the same in your play on words. It's close enough. In fact, you were choosing two words that don't sound the same. Film is in forest? Well, one film is, does not a word. It's not even a word for someone who makes films. That would be filmmaker. All right. Not even someone who watches films.

That would be a cineast. Mm-hmm. I mean, let's move on. Guys are real cineast, hold on, all right? Now that's a play on words. Boom, boom. How's the cold sting of rejection, Theo? I thought Dan was supposed to say boo because he's a play on words. Boo, boo, boo. How's the cold sting of rejection? Yeah.

I thought Dan was supposed to say boo because he's a ghost. High five, how? Hello. I still understand how that's an insult. Anyway, let's move on. No one's understanding that. That's an insult. But you think it's good to be a ghost?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just love golf, you're a whole whole. Because you're dead inside. The implication is you're dead inside. Oh, okay. Yeah, how about you run into a fucking ghost? And a lot of that's true. I'm sorry.

Hey, ghost, how you doing? Oh, great. Come on, that's not true. Let's go to work, fact. If anything, I feel far too deeply. And I'm always sad. How about that? Yeah.

Dan, your heart's an open wound. We get it. Let's move on. So what do we do on this podcast other than banter? Bruce Banser, the incredible Hulk. Mostly we do that. The incredible talk. This is a podcast where we watch bad movies. So much fire to me. And then we talk about it. So Dan, do we watch and it's Shocktober, which means we watch horror movies. It's the gooleeus time of the year. But we didn't watch goolees. It's a ghost and the goblins and the goblins.

So you're now, so I'm gonna Halloween, Bill Cosby. Yeah. The goblins and the goblins and the ghost is the gooleeist. We're really enough less scary than normal Bill Cosby. It's a good moment. Bill Ghostby is much less scary. Star of Ghost Dad for the ball. Yeah, seriously. So was he really a ghost in that?. Yeah, seriously. She was really a ghost in that.

I don't know. She was really a dead. He's 50% accurate. It's just a movie about an absentee father. Yeah. I never knew my dad. He was like a ghost, ghost dead, but alive. Sad.

Sad dead. As his most things about Bill to Cosby anyway go on yeah bill's not fake so what movie do we watch seeing as it's the scariest time of the year shocked oh they can just check their broadcast players to find out that information or you could tell them we watched the Lazarus effect which we also mentioned at the beginning of the spot. So this is the third time most people are doing that information. Oh, okay. That's from the dad.

The Lazarus Effect. What is this? Now this movie was directed. It's about people who go to the store Lazarus. What store is that? This is store Lazarus. What kind of store is that? When they saw that.

I don't know. My grandfather worked at it. It was a one-floating store What was he like a folder to the close? Or is he like a hangar organized every year we got we got clothes from that that was our So what kind of clothes was it just all underpants or were they like burial shrouds? No, it was like we get sweaters and shit No, it was like we get sweaters and shit. From Lazarus.

Yeah. Dan, what I liked is that you delivered that as if Lazarus was a famous chain of stores. Maybe it is a chain. As far as I know, it exists only in what, Illinois? I don't know. Now I want to look it up. My phone's over there, so I won't.

So the listening audience, when he said over there, I didn't know what he meant either. He didn't point or anything. It was across the room. Uh, so now look at that. Lazarus store. The Lazarus effect is directed by David Gelb, who also directed hero dreams of sushi. Uh-huh.

The, uh, and there was sushi in this movie. No. A tip of the hat. Yeah. He likes to have a reference to his previous film and all his movies. You got to hang a lampshade on it, right guys? Now, unlike that movie, which is a documentary about an obsessive sushi chef, this is a horror movie about flatliners, the movie, being redone essentially as a new movie.

Was it like an open, like, were they acknowledging that we're redoing this or no, I don't think so. I don't think it's, I don't think that anyone went out of their way to make a connection with flat liners. Although flat liners is a little different in that. Yeah, the movie post you didn't say that. That's like flat liners guys. Yeah, I remember flat liners.

This is that. Finally, flat liners from my generation. This isn't your daddy's flat liners, because it's now. Yeah, because your daddy's flat liners is called flat liners from my generation. This isn't your daddy's flat liners. Cause it's now. Yeah, because your daddy's flat liners is called flat liners. Yeah, your daddy was a ball. Lazarus merged with macy's. Oh, okay. Oh, it needs to be a department store in the Midwest. It went to funk in 2005. 1851 to 2005. Maybe someday it will rise from the dead.

It's a kind of Lazarus effect. Maybe they'll inject it with a bunch of milky formula. I mean, it's only now that I realize how weird that was is the name for clothing store. It's probably the... I just accepted it as a child. Here's my guess, and this may be crazy. The guy who founded it, his last name was probably Lazarus.

Oh, okay. And they're in Lazarus' tail. You see, he was ahead of name. Let's name was probably Lazarus. And they're in Liza tail. You see, he was ahead of name. Let's call him John Lazarus. And he had a dream, a store where young comedians, grandfathers, could work. Holding clothes and getting sweaters to give to their grandchildren for Christmas. And he made that dream possible with a store he called,

grandfather clothes. Unfortunately, that closed. People did not want to go to a store only staffed by grandfather's, especially because it sold clothes for grandfathers. I don't want to give this to my kid for Christmas. It's for a grandfather and my son, my kid's an oversized cardigan. And this service was so slow. It was very slow.

And so he created Lazarus, a chain store in which grandfather's could work or they'd have regular age people working. Either way could work. You know what they should have called it? What's that, Halle? The Snazorus store. You're the Snazorus store.

Yeah, and it was a store. And after the popular dinosaur, Snazorus. So the best dinosaur, snazorous. Ha ha ha ha. So the best dress, dinosaur. So the Lazarus Effect is a movie that we watched. Should we talk about, it's got a big star study cast. There's Olivia Wilde, Mark DuPlass, Donald Glover, Quicksilver from the X-Men movies.

Ray Wies. Ray Wiesel. Ray Wiesel. Ray Wiesel, good guy. Nope, in one scene, Ray Wiesel played a character, you're sure he's gonna come back later. He does not. Just like Charles Dance in the last movie, what?

Yeah, it almost was like Raywise had a doctor's appointment in the building where they're shooting the movie. And they're like, hey, could you, the guy who's supposed to play this part didn't show up? Can you just do it? Sure, I mean, my appointment's not for another 40 minutes. I show up early to read the magazines on that kind of guy. Anyway, let me put down this issue of golf enthusiast and help you out with your move. I,

yeah, howie? I feel like it's like these like the people involved in the move. You're like, oh my god, I love Twin Peaks so much. Oh my god, that would be so awesome if we could get him. And they're like, uh, all we have is this one part. And they're like, well, let's just ask. And they're just like, yeah, I'm not doing anything. He's like, you're gonna pay me in money, right? He's like, I don't have to work because I'm the heir of the wise potato chip fortune. So I'll take whatever extra. No, I don't think so.

Maybe he's the heir of wisdom. He's the idea of wisdom. Yeah, his grandfather invented that. He's great, great. Yeah, because you're not making very much money off of that these days and my right Politics politics and elections a little that how I could just turn on that voice whenever necessary It's like she suddenly aged like 20 years in front of my very eyes. I feel so scolded when she looked at me Any who the Lazarus of the show.

So Ray Wise, I'm assuming was named something like Lewis Cipher or some shit. Yeah. You're planning on having him show up at the end or like Dennis Avill or something. Yeah. And they're like, no, but just say it's first initial. Stan Aiton.

Yeah. Because he did play the devil on that one show, right? Yeah, wait, Lucifer. No, the show about which yeah, the one with the kid who's the kid who's from the devil. Yeah, and that guy on it who's like a little rent like Jack Black kind of guy. Yeah, yeah, Jack off black. Wow. Jack Black is a huge thing. Probably. Yeah, probably. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm that point you're like, this is gonna be good. Because you're like, this whole thing's gonna be found footage and it's a close up on the face of a dead pig. And we're like, oh, oh. So the movie's really welcoming you into it's heart.

And then you hear a bunch of people, Jibber Jabber and about some kind of monster magic they're casting, they're talking about like, how they're talking about how many like, how much Amber Greeze, they're squinting all over it. much amber grease, there's squintes, squirtin' all over it. That's right.

How's the amygdala doin' all that garbage? And then all of a sudden, they hit it with some juice and they're like, our magic spell didn't work. And then the pig starts goin' crazy for a second and then it stops. He goes hog wild and then stops. Title comes up, the Lazarus effect and we see the graphics, the whole credit sequence

and then we start up. And the credit sequence looks like the credit sequence of a very upscale HBO TV show. Yeah, it does. Yeah. The problem is they blew the budget on the credit scene. It doesn't look that different from the Hannibal credit sequence, to be honest.

Except one of them is making me very excited about this weird program. I'm about to watch. Yeah. The other is just like stalling for time. I'm about to watch. The other is just like stalling for time. I'm going to watch something. That just shows that maybe you should have checked your preconceived notions at the door. If you are already going into this with a bad attitude. Sorry, I'll reveal.

No, but he's revealed. He's full of attitude. Guys, I don't feel very well. I think I'm coming down with something. Don't juice me up full of white stuff, please. Uh oh, no. So they're, uh, Olivia Wilde and Mark II Plus are engaged scientists. They've been so busy with this project.

They haven't gotten married yet. And they are trying to bring things back to life using some kind of white syrup. In the bedroom. And Mark II Plus is having no problem getting excited there. But I'll leave you a while for some reason. It's just like not feeling it. I don't know. Wow, that was not actually what we saw in the movie.

Remember, she's like, come to bed. And he's like, sorry, I'm looking at this dog. We brought back to life. Sorry, I'm mumbling somewhere. I'm busy coring my mumble. So they are scientists who have a serum that they think can bring back to the dead. Or at least it started as a project to repair brain cells and coma patients. And now they've got some sort of dead rising back thing, Donald Gloverworks for them.

And so it is quicks over from the X-Men movies. And a young lady is the documentarian who's gonna shoot DV cam video the whole thing so that I get for their DVD extras, that they, on the DVD the hand of people, they bring back from the dead. And the thing is, she's like the match tossed into this powder keg. Cause as soon as she arrives,

shit starts hitting the fan. It's sort of, yeah, I know. The thing I don't get is if they were like, doing something that was against what they were supposed to be doing, why did they were supposed to be doing. Why did they hire someone to be their documentarian? Hmm. Well, you raised an interesting question.

Who hired her? Did they hired? Did she just show up and they're like, okay, I guess we got to let you do it. What like a, like a Harry at the spy type? Is that what Harry at the spy does? She just shows up and like puts a fucking bandana on, shows her Mentos and people are like, okay, I guess she's talking about Harry's pride. She's a Mentos.

She sings this song. That's every spy that's how they get a situation. J-Mod and J-Mod. Like, I got to sneak in. Mentos. Wait, you guys, that girl who played the documentarian was one of the two little sisters in America. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Yeah. So our career's moving up. I feel really good. Oh, I love that movie. That was such a good movie. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. OK, while she's growing up, the y'all growing up, honey.

That was the first, when I came to New York, that was the first like screaming I ever went to, like a free screening, like, you know, yeah, no, I get it. Mine was sleepy hollow. Really? Yeah. My first screening was when I was a kid, my older cousin managed a movie theater and I saw

an early screening of PCU. Yeah, baby, that's what college is all about. It's definitely about politically correct culture that movie. Yeah, finally. Anywho. Just like Donald Trump is about. Literally correct culture that movie. Yeah, finally. Anywho. Just like Donald Trump is sticking into politically correct culture right now. Everyone go out there and vote Trump this November.

This is, I'm more irritated not because it's a political message I disagree with. But because when people listen to this episode in four weeks, it's going to be outdated. It's not even like it's going to be out of date in a couple years. In like's not even like it's gonna be out of date you get a couple years in like a month it's gonna be out of date. Look I just gonna make America great again Elliott and you're standing in my way and you're standing in America's way. This is gonna be an artifact. Yeah. They're gonna put

this in a museum. They're gonna just put it on a gold record in shooting in this space. Yeah to get it out of here, shooting to the sun. Anyway, so they bring a dog back to life, they name the dog Rocky, and the dog just becomes that lab mascot. You just let that dog hang out, which is crazy, man. That dog came from the other side. Now this dog now has a bad attitude,

and it's implied. Like Spuds McKenzie. No, bad attitude, no, Spuds McKenzie had a great attitude. He was the original party animal. Yeah. He wore a Hawaiian shirt. We all live in a shadow.

Sun glasses, he surfed and eventually died of cirrhosis. Yeah, that's right. Because a dog liver cannot handle a lot of beer. Turner and Hooch lied to us. Mm-hmm. So, getting back to this dog though. Wait, didn't Hooch die in that movie? Yeah, he just shot it at the end.

Yeah, but I mean, It's not natural causes. But I bet like a week later, he would have died from all that booze and assisted. His name is Hooch. I mean, come on. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Elliot. I'm gonna play dude. I didn't make turner Hooch. What's on the door out about him. Yeah. This Hooch. No, it's Hooch. Everybody turner and Hooch. No, he is names Hooch. I got the dog name Hooch. No, everybody Hooch. Everybody Hooch. Yeah, that was it.

I want to know how it's song. Who was it? The song was like, I got the Hooch. They... I got the only Swedish dog in the world. What I like was the confidence that you think that's. You got it. If you want to, here's the Dei Ali.

If you want to. It's not that I know how to sell it. It's just that it had been a little far removed to Elliot because you offered your all my hooch. You got to have a song. What better time to serve up another hooch parody song? So where were we? Like this hooch dot hooch, hooch, hooch.

This movie is called Turner and Hooch. Make me want a hooch. So there's a scene where Olivia Wilde is. How does it? Hooch. Where have all the hooch is gone? That don't impress me hooch. I'm a hooch, I'm a hooch.

Looks like a matrix. Look how far we've come, my turner. That's why they call it the whoosh. He's got whoosh dreams. I just wrote a theme song for a movie that doesn't have a theme song, and then I'm turning into a whoosh song. Maybe it was whoosh dreams. Okay, so what was happening in the movie? So they brought a dog back to life, but this dog is crazy mad and crazy strong and the serum

Which is supposed to fade away from his body is not fading away. You know what's like? What's the deal with this dog? He just uses magic powers to eat our pizza. Then they kind of forget about the dog for a little bit They get their funding gets pulled by the university because what they're doing is against the laws of God and Not what they were supposed to be doing and And the university is funded by a lot of Catholics, that's what they said. She says 83% of our student body identifies as religious. If you put donors in, that's up to 90%. And it's like, this is not.

It's a weird way. It's a weird thing to bring up. And also the fact that if they really brought a dog back to life, this would be the most famous college in the world And it would be huge publicity for this college. Oh our lab Kid brought the dead back to life. This is literally the biggest scientific Rage to bring this dog back to life. Yeah, if God didn't want it He'd turn Olivia Wilde into some kind of weird demon lady that kills all of us

At the same time, however, they lose control of the project because the company that gave him the grant becomes purchased by another company called like cryo-loss or something. You like it's got an evil sounding name. And Raywise steps in, takes all their stuff and then tango's his way out

and does not appear for the rest of the film. But also, there's supposed to be someone that's like weirdly sinister within the group because because the woman who cuts them off from the grand is like I saw like we know that you were testing on animals. How could you know that? But it's never clarified. Yeah, he's suggesting that somebody's been informing on them and the woman who the head of the university is like, no, but she doesn't seem very very sure of herself. Yeah, but none of the core group ever seems to be guilty. No, yeah, unless we weren't paying attention, which is really possible. Not possible for me. Totally absorbed. But, uh, let's set up a care. It was never, uh,

really absorbed. But, no, let's set up a care. It was never definitively resolved. There was a scene later on, or like someone's been watching us through the computer, but they don't know who it was. I think it was never supposed to be that important thing. I guess Ray Wies, with the eye on the wise potato chips. It's the viewer.

Because he's like an owl. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I think to Halleys write, it's supposed to be like a mirror. It's like funny funny games where you're supposed to feel shitty for watching this movie. Oh, we're like sucker punch Okay, so let's set up these characters a little bit so March to class and Olivia Wilde. There's trouble in paradise. She is very religious. He's an atheist She thinks very religious. Well, it's just more religious than an atheist little but, but she believes in heaven and wears a cross-rounder neck and in movie shows. Does it like read Bible passages and like a crazy voice and use it as a means to assassinate people?

No, that's a good point. That's true. So, okay, she is regular level religious, March Plas is an atheist. So they've got a little bit of tension. Dominic Lever has a crush on Olivia Wilde, which is... Not a huge surprise. That makes sense. I'm not surprised any of the guys there don't have a crush on Olivia Wilde, which is not a huge surprise. That makes sense. I'm surprised any of the guys there don't have a crush on her, but inappropriate because

that's his immediate superior. You know, they grew up together, right? How did they possibly grow up to it? Remember when she was like, when we were 22, you used to always say this to me. They're supposed to be 23 in the movie. Really? Oh, I don't know. Oh, it seemed like they were supposed to have known each other

a long time. I think they were supposed to have known each other for a while. But that's how she knew what sushi she liked. Donald Glover makes a pretty fumbly kind of pass implicate, like kind of implying that she should leave for fiance. And then from that point on, he is like, I screwed up. I got a backtrack. I can't do this again.

And the whole idea of them being in a, him being having a crush on her is kind of, now it doesn't really factor in after that. It doesn't matter. They get their funding cut, Ray Wise comes in and steals their junk and they're like, hey. He's their junk, oh my God. He's just, just, just, just, John Dex went with his trouble and paradise between,

and, he's one of those Nigerian penis wizards. That's when there's trouble in paradise between the blossom and the other. He's one of those Nigerian penis wizards. He's a people's penis with magic. I should not joke about it. Like people get killed because they've accused of wizardry in certain countries. They were in trade. The United States of America.

The year was 16 something or other. He never fall from one of those Nigerian penis cams. Yeah, well, they told me I had a million penises and the bank account waiting for me and they just needed my penis length. So I sent it in, next thing I know, they're using my penis. What fucking bank was it, Gringots?

That's right. The bank from Harry Potter? Not familiar with that bank. It's stabbed by Grimlin's, dude. The one Harry Potter movie I saw was particularly supposed to be Jewish. It was a little offensive. Not just like what's his name?

Star Wars, Wato. Wato, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why? Because all Jewish people can fly because of small wings and gas flatters. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And also chestnut. And he's wearing like a weird little cap.

It's a big stereotype that Jews bet on pod races. Yeah. They bet the freedom of their slaves on the actual pod races. And that J.I. mind tricks don't work out. Now, here's the thing. They decide to sneak into the lab. They still got some of the serum.

Well, they're gonna videotape themselves bringing another animal back to life so that they can get the credit and the proof and I get uploaded to YouTube or something or like ebombs world. I don't know wherever you put videos these days. Unfortunately something goes wrong. They sneak in. It's totally fine. They blank out the security cameras and I guess play a music video like in toys so that the security guys think they're watching MTV. I don't know why their TV would get MTV at the security desk, but they needed a musical number in toys. Am I going to question Barry Levinson?

No, it wasn't. It was. It was. I'm not going to question Barry Levinson. The guy, you know, he could, you just said, he could have said as a cinematographer and then I'm only in a very sonic film. Yeah, he made Diner, a movie that's overrated. Wow.

I just said I wouldn't question him and Dan just decided to drop it. It's all right So we we get a real great caper sequence where they're sneaking into the lab and tricking this poor security guard Who's probably just like you know just count down the hours before he can go home to his family and take care of his kids He's like open on whatever what's gonna happen Michael going to come in and try to bust into our university and talk to the dean with the camera. And I'm like, dude, I don't know. This is just my job. Okay, I get paid minimum wage. Now you're bugging me. Oh, come on. You should be on my side. But no. And anyway, so they are going to bring back some animal. Unfortunately, I'll live you well. They do bring back an animal, a wild animal.

Continue with your synopsis. So they're going to ring back a pig, right? Even though it's another dog. And they, unfortunately, Olivia Wilde flips the switch for the electricity and gets electrocuted. Bum, bum, bum. Because she forgets, she takes off all her jewelry, but she forgets to take off her engagement ring. And basically, Mark II-class has been holding her in this holding pattern of, like, sure,

we're going to get engaged, gives her the ring, and then never they've been engaged for three years. It's the classic guys and dolls scenario. Right. It's our 15th anniversary. Oh, really? Yeah, we've been engaged for 15 years. So you see, it's pointy that she would forget to take off her engagement ring,

which maybe he never planned to honor. And I don't understand why her engagement ring would conduct electricity any better than just her hand. Yeah, because metal. But her bare hand is touching the thing. It's not like her bare hand is made out of rubber. Yeah, her hand, like, yeah, would have conducted electricity too. Like, as long as she was grounded, it would have been

the same thing. Oh, she's not grounded. She's a Hollywood star. Oh, okay. Oh, no, let me take that back. Yeah. And Olivia Wilde is very grounded, even though she's a Hollywood star. She's just like you are me. That's better. Yeah, that was better. I didn't use that dispersion. She seems like a sweetheart. America's sweet's she's not listening, Dan. Don't worry. Dan now Dan is grounded. Now you're supposed to sing. I'm just wild about Olivia. Like Michigan J Frog, your idol. Why are you pimping me? You've always patterned yourself after. It's right. Why?

What's a J-Stan for? Josiah. Wow. Yeah, actually, I don't know what it stands for. Jesus probably. No, she's in Jesus. Yeah, it's a whole, it's a whole Jesus analogy. Because that's the mystery of faith.

You can't prove it. You can't show it to anybody else. You just have to feel it when nobody else is around and Jesus will sing like hello my baby Hello, Mahane just to you because he's carrying you That's the double you see I mean now it's the CW so it's kind I mean, no, it's the CW, so it's kind of... Yeah, that was a WV. No, the front is just directing you to the bathroom.

No, no. But all for you, C. No, I honestly think that because when I was in like, like, sixth grade, my friends and I, how he just was like, I'm not that old. I had a joke about... The moment that never tells her... It was a joke that we changed that song because we were in a walking club

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Oh, it's terrible. That's in the porn parody, the Lazarus erect. So, because there's nothing they can do. Somebody eventually hits on the idea, oh yeah, we have this bring people back to from the dead serum. Let's use that honor. And it works.

Bum, bum, bum. But it leaves her with two little wound marks on the sides of her head that they could have little. But one one mark made sense, because it was the place where they had stuck her with that needle. The needle with the serum. Yeah.

Wait, she had multiple wounds. No, she only had one. Well, it was on two different sides of her head, depending on the shot. Depending with the serum. Yeah. Wait, she had multiple. No, she only had one. Yeah. Well, it was on two different sides of her head, depending on the shot. Depending on the shot. It might have been a continuity from. Uh-huh. And then they put a little band-aid over to make sure brains and all the juice don't leak out. You don't want to lose the juice. That's the best part. Keeps the brain. So she wakes up. Oh, remember that?

The SNL sketch that never made any sense? Yeah, sure. I remember that. The SNL sketch that never made any sense. Yeah, sure. I remember that one. And so she starts acting a little funky, funky, dig a dig a bob. She dig a dig a bobson, dude. She finds that, so they had a big debate earlier. When you die, your brain is flooded with, your body is flooded with chemicals where your brain, it does it cause you to hallucinate

that you're entering the afterlife, or is it easing your soul into the afterlife? And she believes that she has been in hell. You see, she's had bad dreams about room on fire and a little girl who can do nothing about it and dolls burning up, because that's a spooky thing to see, I guess. It basically looks like she's...

Dude, if you saw dolls burning up, you would be fucking pretty good. No, that's for memory from when she was a child. I know, I guess. It basically looks like she's, dude, if you saw dolls burning up, you would be fucking three kids. No, that's for memory from when she was a child. I know, I'm gonna call this, are you afraid of the dark theorem, which is what me and my brother and sister used to say about the show, are you afraid of the dark?

We'd say, well, it's not scary to watch, but if you were in that situation, it would be very scary. Sure. If I was in this situation, I love this, it's like, since it's children's rationalization, for like, we have to enjoy this somehow. No, but it's so cute like watching you in your siblings. Yeah, like if you see like

I'm in here if you see gorilla in a movie you're probably like you're probably gonna come out Stephanie Flewier all the way from London Amazing, I mean, it's like if you see a gorilla in a movie You're like oh that gorilla's cute, but if you saw that gorilla in real life, you'd be like terrified of that thing. Oh, that's hot. No, okay.

I'm just saying. Like, let's put a hat and coat on him. He's a lot of your dinner. I know a great place that serves bananas. What was the restaurant we talked about in Zookie was TGI FFP not in a like this thing is it's Friday for people not eight. Anyway, they rang our back and she says, I was in hell. I spent years in my worst memory.

And I couldn't help them and they were burning. And I mean, this gets revealed at the end as if it's a surprise, but when she was a girl, she accidentally set a fire and I guess her family died. Somebody died. She made it on purpose. Her fault. Yeah.

It is her fault. And now she's back and she's got Lucy Akira powers and she starts using them to kill people one by one for no disturbance reason. No, no, no. Did we make this clear that like the serum like activates extra parts of your brain? So how she's got like.

Now she has a telekinetic power. She's also a demon woman. And telepathic powers. Yeah. And I think it is clear. OK, so her. Lay it down for me. So she lives, she's a Catholic.

And also she lives in constant guilt of this thing where she killed her whole family and her power so basically she's able to hear the thoughts of all of their people and so she winds up killing them when she hears that like They don't really love her Because every time she kills someone it's like They're saying this isn't really you What's her name again? This her name is Zoe which means life by the way Marketplace characters name Frank like Frank and style. Yeah, and Donald lovers characters name Niko like

Niko and the Velvet Underground. And oh and Quicks over his character's name Clay, like the Clay of Life, I guess. Like it's like, oh, yeah, you make a golem. Nico probably means something about life and Greek or something. And Sarah Bulger, the videographer, I bet it means like news. Or something. Yeah. I can't just name this.

I can't just name this. I can't just name this. I can't just name this. I can't just name this. I can't just name this. I can't just name this. I can't just namege. I mean, that's just her name. It's not. Exactly. It's not a, that one doesn't have any hidden meaning to it. They just have to be two people with the same last name. Her character's name is Eva, like Eve,

or like the robot in Wally. Oh, yeah. There's a robot in Wally. That's the twist. So basically, she's like, oh, he's a robot. So at first you're like, maybe she's okay and then pretty quick you're like, oh no, she's not. She's gonna be almost as bad as that dog.

Now I was expecting that dog to get into some real fucking shenanigans. I was like, I was about to be like, I was about to be like, hey corn, step aside. There's a new freak on a leash. This is dog. You are really the locks in the park for long tonight. The dog kind of disappears from the movie.

Does she kill it? Yes, she does. That's right. The dog starts growling at her and she looks at it and then you hear it. And you know it's dead. But so she basically always kills people when she's like half aware, because when it when she's first brought back to like she's like half aware of her like how wrong it was that she was brought back because she had these initial suspicions with the dog.

She was like, I don't think we should have brought him back. Even though she then brings the dog into her apartment. We ripped him back from heaven. all dogs go to heaven, someone mentioned. That's the book of Bluth. Yeah. But so she's constantly hearing the people's thoughts of like, this isn't the real Zoe. I have to stab Zoe with this needle. That happens with Donald Glover, because she tries to kiss him and she knows that he's in love with her.

But he's so weirded out, because he knows it's not her, so he will kiss her. So she hurls him into a storage locker and crashes him to death. Until blood pours out the body. Yeah, he's a Caprice son made out of blood. And as Halley pointed out, I think while we're watching it, aside from Olivia Wilde who dies and then comes back, Donald Glover is the first victim and is the only black character. So like they could have easily gone out of their way not to kill the black guy first.

No, but there was that there was that character who vapes a lot. Yeah, quick. So they're a lot. He dies afterwards. Yeah, yeah. But there was really important they kept him around longer. So he could be so good vape. They do his character are neat.

He need more time to fill up that character. Their characteristics were like marked to class. It doesn't really care about other people. Olivia Wilde, religious and nice, Donald Glover, Black and as a crush on Olivia Wilde, quicks over, vapes, and videographer, girl. And that, those are their characters, like, I mean, that's your interpretation with your limited, uh, from your position of privilege. Yeah. I'm indicted the filmmakers. I'm not saying these people are that way. All right.

The same the characters are. Well, I saw a rich tapestry of human beings when I watched this. There's a real humans of New York story. So she kills Vapo by making him choke on his Vapese cigarette. It's like a weird public service in that's what it gets vaping. Yeah, she's like that's her first two kills are the most Freddy Krueger kills you can think of except she doesn't have puns afterwards I mean she does we can we said him when he's dying when he's choking on his fucking six leg feet, mom. Isn't this ironic? He he he he he. That was cool.

Mm hmm. You would see people with your mind powers. With their vapes. Yeah, wow. Not really. You just don't approve of their lifestyle. No, you know what? God bless every vape.

Ha ha ha ha. Then Mark Duplass and the girl, other girl, leave our left. And he's like, I'm gonna inject her with some kind of thing that stops this. But- The best part is when they pull his vape pan out of his neck and they're like, he joked on his vape pan, like no shit dude. And we just saw it happen.

I don't think he was vaping when he was yelling at Olivia Wilde. It takes them a long time too. And this also, they don't leave the basement laboratory they're in for almost the entire movie. And Olivia Wilde is just sitting there, does a crazy thing, and then goes back to sitting there. It takes them forever to realize something wrong is happening, other than just like a bad sort of feeling.

And it also takes her forever to like pull off her whatever Plan she has like there's no reason for her to wait to kill everybody One at a time because you don't understand she's fighting. She's only killing because she's struggling with like Human and her killing she's just sitting there glaring at everybody. Yeah, but she's like trying to be human Oh, you think she's struggling with it? Yeah, that's why she only kills when she realizes that like people think she's a total maniac monster. Yeah, she's like floating around.

No, remember, she was almost brought back with Mark II class and he was like, I love you, I love you and she was like crying and she said, do you really love me? And then she touched his head and then she said, she heard his thoughts. And he was like, I never loved you. He was like, I have to stab her.

This isn't even her fucking slut. She's, no, I can't. Oh, I'm big. Also when she does, when she uses her crazy powers, her eyes turn black like she's got the black way off in the ex files in her body. And I was like, where's Alex Kreichek? We're all the characters we've come to love

from the ex files. So when she kills Mark DuPas by squeezing his head real good, why did they put all the CGI to make his face look like his face is explode and kinda, like it doesn't actually explode. No, but they have CGI blood spreading out of his mouth. You mean you just wish they'd gotten the extra seven? Like you'd seen the fall on. Yes, I want to see like a full on like they should have done

a quick cut. She should have like ripped his head up. I would have if they just did like a smash cut to a tomato. Like a really cheap effect. They just like cut and all this into tomato. It's like that, like that shot in Dead Live or Brain Dead, depending on what country you're watching the movie, where the baby pulls itself through the woman's face.

There's a moment like you're watching it, yeah, you can see a clear cut where they're like, this is her face. Now this is a dummy where a little baby is pulling itself through, but at the same time you're laughing and it's gross. They should have done that. That baby sounds playing his pull itself through. But at the same time, you're laughing and it's gross. They should have done that. That baby sounds like a really good actor. That baby should have been a star. They could have made a whole franchise off of zombie baby.

If that baby wasn't a puppet, then yeah, star quality. Even so, because it's a puppet, I mean, it's not like a puppet hasn't been a star before. Look at fucking chucky, dude. Super star. Just look at Charlie McCarthy. Look at the Muppets. You know what? You turned me around on this. Where's Peter Jackson wasting his time on the fucking Tolkien shit when he could be making zombie baby movies?

Establishing a cinematic universe based on the zombie baby characters. That's all original stuff. If I wanted Tolkien, I've got three to a thousand books I could read about it I can still am really in all as much as I want but there's only one place for me to get zombie baby two of with the dawn of the dead remake I guess yeah, and I guess it's alive is not a zombie baby with a baby is a mutant What about a train spouting? I mean that's a hallucination of a baby that spins his head around

I mean, that's a hallucination of a baby that spins his head around That's a live adult that's a lot of the That's how he survived That is basically like a baby's day out where for some reason line all the sides to take the zombie baby to the park Like there's no reason to do that What about pet cemetery? Didn't the baby come back? Oh, that was totally his on the baby. That's his on the baby, right?

It was on the baby, right? And also of course the... And a Lazarus effect style thing where you're like, why did you bring that baby back to life? And then, because he wants that baby back ribs. He's back. He's saying, he's...

Yes, I want my baby back, baby back, baby back. And also there was that, there was that the Haitian smokey jazz review Cabaret show zombie baby. Now let's make a very long story short because this is actually one of the shorter movies we've watched. It's less than hour and a half. I basically told everything that needs to be well, the thing at the end is we is the videographer eva goes

into a live in to live your wilds memories and tells the girl you can open the door and they open the door and it seems like she's cured a live your wild psychosis but then she stabs her with the syringe that's supposed to cure her some fireman run in and she looks over at live your wilds gone and the fireman is actually live your wild and she snaps over at Olivia Wilde's gone and the fireman is actually Olivia Wilde and she snapsy Vaznec and then that it ends then you think that would be the ending of the movie where you're like oh that was a great final scare movie but it's not then a Dalmatian comes in and starts licking the body space no no it's a fireman. You really ran with the fireman. It's horrible.

Then Olivia Wilde proceeds to bring back Mark to class with the serum smash cut. The Lazarus effect title scene. Tells, I guess sending up for sequel, the Lazarus effect too, effect in it. So I have, I like only remember flatliners from a very big like a far distance. Sure.

Anyone who can conjure it more vividly in their mind did this seem actually, because in my mind, flatliners was like a really good movie. It's not, but it's a better movie than this. Flatliners is they are deliberately stopping their hearts and then bring themselves back. And they do it, but when they do it, they are breaking the barrier between

we're wearing something back with them. And they're forced to all confront their bad feelings. They're all hurtful demons. Yeah, they're demons. They would tell the truth. That's the same as lying. That was my favorite line from that. But it's...

It's really put an imprint on you. The thing that stuck up to me, the most of our line was that their medical deception class is in like this daily lit room, hung with tapestries. They're like, oh, I guess we're taking a medical class from Cogliostro. But they also like this setting was so limited. You were always in the same lab. Whereas at least with flat liners when they died, they were like, by a tree in a field, right? Yeah, I'm gonna depend on who died. I feel like everyone who died like went to a different place, right?

Well, that only- Yeah, depending on what your background was. Yeah, and what key for Suttling's was what? That he like some black people made fun of him and then he hit them or something? Yeah, there was some kid that was taunting him. Yeah. And then the and the Baldwin was like video taping people he was having sex with. Wow. I can see this again. Yeah. Yeah. I saw this when I was so young. What was Julia Roberts's? Oh, I think it had

something to do with her dad like. Oh, right. Her dad was a Vietnam veteran. Yeah. He committed suicide. Yeah. I think that's what the tree was her dad. Oh, right. Her dad was a Vietnam veteran. Yeah, he committed suicide. Yeah, I think that's what the tree was. Did she go and find him? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Possibly.

Now, I feel like if you're gonna do, I hate a movie like this because it's so makes me wanna be like backseat driver and makes me wanna be like, well, if they had, I don't know. I'm not doing that. Established the geography of this one specific location a little bit better, it could have been a little tensor, or if they, I don't know, like kind of downplayed Olivia Wilde,

like crazy initially, or... She's crazy from the moment they bring her back. Or if they're gonna do that, if they play up the idea that Olivia Wilde realizes that she was in hell and that she's back. And for whatever reason, she doesn't wanna go back to hell. And the only reason she commits acts of violence is to keep herself from there.

Like she's almost like a junkie to not be in hell. That would be a motivation that makes more sense to me. But, or if she played up the idea that she is back from hell, in the addition, she brought like a demon passenger with her, if they played up the dual personalities a little bit more, that would have been interest. I don't know. That was what I thought the plot was for a while.

Was that she had been to hell and brought something back with her because that it's just that this serum gives them special, gives her mutant brain powers is the most boring root. I feel like they can get, they even have at one point, Donald lovers like humans only use 10% of their brain, gives her mutant brain powers is the most boring root. I feel like they even have at one point, Donald lovers like humans only use 10% of their brain at a time.

And it's like that corneal chestnut, but it seems like that's, at this point that is... Corneal chestnut. Corneed chestnuts, it's well-trodden territory. The idea of like, oh, now I have a super brain and I can do magic powers with it. Not that going to Helen brings something back

is not well-trodden territory also. But, and it's just like her powers are pretty vague. Exactly what's gonna happen, like her motivations are vague, other than I wanna kill these guys in Freddie Krueger ways. It's not too different from the demons in Nye of the Demons. A movie that's way better and you should go watch that instead of this movie. Is that the one with the movie theater?

No, Nye of the Demons were there at Hall House, the haunted house, and there's a Halloween party. Oh, okay. And they listen to a Bauhaus song and it's awesome. I will say, I think you guys are pretty locked in this. Like, you guys obviously watch a lot more fantasies, superheroes, special powers, movies that I do. And I thought that there was something human

about the psychology of feeling very conflicted about like you just realized how was reliving your biggest guilt like you just realized how was reliving your biggest guilt and you can escape it. And like her psychology about killing people seemed very tied to the pain that she felt about like not being loved by anyone because she had committed this horrible act and then hearing that they didn't identify her love with her. I think like that would be... I wish that they didn't have the whole... I caused this fire when I was a kid and it was just that she wanted to be loved and was finding that she that was missing because that was something we've seen a lot in movies we've watched is like someone has a mysterious

memory and then they've got a... I mean, that's... It's like, that's a pretty hackneyed trope at this point. But because it's like real human psychology that like something imprints on you when you're young that like tells you you shouldn't be loved and then that follows you for the rest of your life? No, no. The idea that like, well, it's more the idea, I hurt somebody when I was young

and it's gonna be revealed in cryptic flashbacks throughout the film and at the end, that's the like thing that has to be forgiven or solved. I wish that there was like, Although they kind of disproved that notion because that didn't actually use to solve it. Yeah, I like that. So, you didn't help at all.

Yeah. And I feel like that. I didn't help at all. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like then describing it makes it sound more subversive in that way than it actually was. No, I'm, it was like a fine movie. I think I liked it more than you guys did, but I also think that like you guys have liked it more than I did. Have locked into like a formula.

Locked into something. Locked into something. Well, I don't even super this. I think when you've, you we watch the same kind of movie over and over again for this dumb podcast that we do call the flop house and maybe you've heard of it. So I think you're a little listener. Yeah, so I know it's being for myself. I'm more tired of it. I mean, now I'll be right. There might be your, you might be saying that we, but it just might be a lunatic. You look at more. But by William Joel. Turn out the light.

It is by William Joel. Turn out the light. It's kind of hazy. I don't know the lyrics to you. You may be wrong. So calm, you may be. No, I think, I mean, I think there's probably something to what you're saying, Halley, that we are,

we are predisposed to dislike the shitty horror movie we're about to watch. When it's specifically chosen for the podcast you do that's about watching bad movies, I go into every movie hoping it's gonna be a good movie, unless it's one I know it's gonna be bad, like food fun. Alright, Dan's getting in with us. No, no, we're getting into judgments now, so we should get into the part of the show that's Specifically about judgment. Okay, let's open the door which is going to judgment. Yeah, we're opening the door And get on the floor and walk the dinosaur over to the judgments room. There's one thing I know walking over to the judgment area I'll pass this creepy door Down down boy. All right, now we're the judgment area.

How is left the room? She's walked out of the room. Wow, that's a harsh judgment. Now, Dan, what are we doing in the judgment room? What are our ratings for Shaktover Festival? Well, now we're in the final judgments. And the categories are, was this movie totally terrifying? Was it totally snorrifying?

Or was it frighteningly funny? I'll go and say that this was totally snorrifying, but for a snorrifying movie, it was not that bad. Like, it was a bad movie that was not as bad as many movies we watch. No, it was just kind of like a non-entity to me. It was snorfying because I had seen it before, but if you're coming into this type of movie new,

you might like it. I'll say one thing about it though, like before you guys give your ratings, it was not scary. No. If you're looking for a scary movie, this is not give your ratings. It was not scary. No. If you're looking for a scary movie, this is not gonna fit. This is not it.

There's a couple of jump scares. There's a jump scare that is inexplicably followed by a weird pig sound effect that doesn't make any sense because there's no pig to be found. But no, I think you're right. I mean, part of it is the movie is kind of helped by like the charm of actors that I like. Yeah. I think I saw, I saw an interview with Olivia Wilde talking about this movie where she was like,

yeah, I just wanted to do a crazy horror movie. And it does seem like she's kind of having fun. She definitely seems like she's enjoying it. And like, I wish that there was more of a sense of fun. She definitely had more of a fun role to play out than in New York. She's the monster and not the victims. And the, I mean, I wish that the movie had been directed

less like I wanna say artlessly. Like hero dreams of. Yep, I wish it had been more sushi based. Hero dreams of killing. But like I want to say artlessly, but I feel like it's like it felt too often that the director was trying to do the same old shit, trying to do the same like slow motion dolls catching on fire type bullshit. When this is a movie where you could just be a little more patient

and it would probably be a little bit scarier. Spending just more time with a camera on a weird dog's face would be scarier than what they showed us. Ha-ha. Ha-ha. Wait, I don't even know what my score was. Silly snorifying. Yeah, sure.

Ha-ha. How would you think of it? Wait, so what are the categories? Silly. Silly, scary-fying. or a silly snorifying? Yeah, sure. How would you think that? Wait, so what are the categories? Totally, totally, totally, totally, snorifying or frighteningly funny. I guess, I guess snorifying,

but I didn't actually think it didn't scare me at all. And I am more susceptible to scares. You guys, you guys even prefaces with like, at least I'll give you a few good scares, Hallie. Well, if that was in the email invitation to be a guest in the flow class, Hallie cared for a few good scares.

So I was not scared at all, but I clearly didn't get bored. The luxury of this film was that it was not long. It was very short. So I felt like I was able to bring more of a critical eye to it because I feel like every time we watch a movie, I'm like into it and then we're like an hour and a half in and I realize we still have another hour and I feel like I it and then we're like an hour and a half in. And I realize we still have another hour.

And I feel like I hate everything about movies. That's why I like watching movies with you is I was I don't remember if I've said this on the podcast, but I was saying this to Halley before watching it that when we watch our movies in Halley, usually she the scares hit her every time for the first hour. And then like for the next hour, she's like, just wants it over and she hates it. She'll just say things like, just kill the ghost bitch. She's just saying that stuff to the screen,

because she's so bored with what she's saying. So I appreciate it. I thought the link of this movie made it engaging and I did find. And I thought it was a simple, how did it been to play? If this was a play, I would feel like a totally fine play. No, but if it were a play, it would have been totally fine.

It would have been better. I would give it a C-minus for the film itself, an A on length, and I think a B if it was a play. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so that's how I go. A tie is a pedantic person. I think when he pronounces these words it's in a very showoffie way. Gyro. E-ro. Sacre-blue.

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So I have this huge stack of library books, and I have no bookers to stick in them before I return these library books back to the library. I'm not sure I approve of the use, but anyone who needs bookers can apply through the site. Squarespace would be great for you because you can get a free custom domain. Perfect.

You've got responsive design, you've got beautiful templates that you can use a free custom domain. Perfect. You've got responsive design. You've got beautiful templates that you can use to design your website. Because people on the go might want to order those bookers. Yeah, well, they might realize like, I just realized my nose is empty. And I'm not gonna, maybe I can get the bookers by tomorrow. But if they're shipped overnight, you know.

And they're freeze dried, so they're fresh. You just stick them in. And at this certain age, you just stop producing some bookersers right? I think it's the opposite. You're no stranger. So wait, when you say you just stick them in, you stick them into your nose and then your just natural body heat warms up them boots.

That's the plan, that's how it works. Yeah, we call it boogers. Can you put them, can you put in like a toaster oven to get those boar grounds up and running? Yeah, you could. I don't, you don't need to. I mean, once they're in your hands, they're kind of up to you what you're going to do with them. That's the beauty of Squarespace.

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Yeah, if you got good ingredients, you make good meals and Blue Apron gives your ingredients pre-portioned out to you with easy to follow recipes so you can make home-cooked meals at home. Let me tell you my way of least favorite part about cooking. Okay. It's the measuring. It'll say things like a pinch of this, a dash of that. I don't know what that means. Even when it says like a cup of this, do I fill it up to the line or like a little bubble line? Do I use this? Do I fill it up to the line? Or like a little bubble line?

Do I use this spider-man pint glass? I just got sitting around, or do I use this tumbler that shaped like a human face? Yeah, exactly. Do I? Is that a cup? It's a cup to me. I mean, I drink out of it, so it must be a cup.

And if you're with... I mean, that's really dumb. At least for the cup. You should at least know what a cup is. No, but with parallax, if you look at it from above or below, you're not sure if it's a full cup or not. The apron takes all that out of your hands. They measure it for you and you can just dump it in.

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And pardon me. Wow, I guess that's the. What? And seared salmon and full vegetable hash with apple brown butter dressing. I like anything that's a, and Seared Sam and the full vegetable hash with Apple Brown butter dressing. I like anything that's a hash. Yeah, that has no booger. Like, booger's you not go with that, man.

Like, like root vegetables? Yeah, I got, I'm betting you got some parsnips in there. That sounds great. You got some yams. That sounds good. You got, you got maybe some arrow root. I don't know what that is. Some, all hash together. Yeah, what about someroot. Don't know what that is.

Some... But all hashed together. Yeah. What about some... Sun joke. Uh-huh. Sun joke actually, no. It's more like a early summer. What about some ramps?

Ramps are spring. It's a springtime thing. Okay. What about pickles? Pickles are... You can make it yourself. You can have them anytime. What about good and plenty? What's this? Good and are... You can make yourself. You can have them in any time. What about good and plenty?

What's the season's like? That's a candy. You can have them in movie season. Yeah. Like a word season? Yeah. What about like... You can see birth of a nation in theaters now.

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And they get delicious food that they can cook easily because it's all measured out. No boogers included. No, that sounds like a great deal. Wait, can I ask a genuine question? Yes, sure. So when you say the meals are for a serving of one or a serving of multiple people. You can get them in servings of two or you can get a family serving of four. Okay, so if you're getting your three first meals free, if you get a serving of two,

is that two meals? That's a pure, if you're a single gentleman like myself, that's six meals. And if you got... So every meal comes in two servings. Yes. Okay. Or four. Dan could get 12 servings out of that for his lonely life. Thank you, Allie. It's like Buckeyes lonely life that Nickelodeon card too. Buckeyes. You will love how good it feels and tastes to create incredible home cook meals with Blue Apron, so don't wait. That's again, blueapron.com slash flop house. And there's no one up on the jumbo tron tonight, but if you want to get on the jumbo tron,

go to maxblemfun.org slash jumbo tron. It's $100 for a personal message, it's $200 for a commercial message. If you want to put out your message into the world, that's one way to do it. Why don't we have any jumbo trim messages? Do people not like us anymore, Dan? I just think that we haven't been pushing it that hard. Oh, which is, then I think we should push it real good, because jumbo trons a great way to get out your message to the world and to that special someone.

What kind of messages are I think? Get a lot of birthday messages, get a lot of I love yous, and then we had a wedding proposal one. It's small business messages and so many businesses. You guys listen to Delilah. No, is that a song? Listeners, take note. Go ahead. Okay, we're waiting for them to go get it.

No, that Delilah. No, that New York Delilah. She New York, New York, New York. She's a radio host, but she's been around for 25 years, but every time I listen to her, she's the most mesmerizing host, and she's always people are calling in and dedicating their love songs to her. Then I heard an interview with her on NPR for her 25 25th anniversary and she's still so like hopeful in love even though she's been divorced like three times and has all these very inspiring story. Okay, take note listeners Delilah. Put that up on your

message. Put that up on your message board. What's your thing? Sure, jumbo tron. Your jumbo tron. A message to the lila, I guess. So now what do we do, Dan? Yeah, what do we do in this part? Before we get to letters. There's another thing. We have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, We have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, We have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, we What was there some gifts that have been sent to us? Oh, that's very nice. What I just want to thank people for We have a collection of a seven movie collection of the fast and the furious movies from Jake with hell

So all seven of the fast and the furious movies the so all seven of the fast and furious movies the fast and furious Septilogy, so that's the fast of the furious to fast to furious. Mm-hmm. The third one fast and furious Tokyo drift Okay, then fast and furious was number four right and then fast five, uh-huh, and then Six to the fast plane and then of course and then fastie fast just the seven. Yeah, seven seven. It's a series of movies. So the minutes of the fast and the furious, you shouldn't watch with your friends. You should watch it with your family in diesel everybody because it's a movie about family except for the first one, which is

about what bank robbers that drive, they've been there. They're always bankrupt. Hey, depends on your family, Elliott. I don't judge. Unless you judge. Later on, my wife, I was watching the seventh one with my wife, and she said, so is this a movie where the FBI recruits a race car driver to stop a criminal? And I'm like, that's exactly what this is. This is the seventh time.

This one is from Ryan Middleman with Held, who writes that he didn't bless it. I didn't find your podcast to the AV Club or Entertainment Weekly. I find it the old fashioned way by Googling podcast plus ding dong I find the old fashioned way written on the side of a bathroom stall We should do that. Yeah, so this guy designs an amulet pins for shop mutant pins.com and enclosed our few of his recent pins including a Sean Claude Van Dam blood sport pin Thanks for all the last let's keep plopping on the flop side. There's a bloodsport one.

A bunch of great pins so we can divvy up after the show. Is this the Canon Pictures logo? There's the Canon Pictures logo. And some crazy shit. No, it's a separate hand with an higher ball. So thank you. Thank you for these. Thanks Brian.

Yeah, you can definitely have one. And last one. No, no, the letter say we can give a halloween. That's a good point. I'll allow it. That was the letter talking. Sorry for that noise. That was me pulling the tape off of this letter, which is from Steve and Nicole last

day withheld, who says, my wife and I recently attended a geek trivia night at a local bar. We walked away with Victoria's with the most insane prize that we've ever encountered at Pub trivia. Our team won a cash prize in six heavy-duty board games. Hardware win was the direct result of awesomeness, but the other half can only be attributed to the confidence we gained from our team name, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turlits. Nice, the legacy lives on. So because we contributed the name, or Elliot in particular, it contributed the name. Hey look, who knows where ideas come from in the flop house. We're all equal co-authors.

They figured they should divvy up the they should divvy up the Spoils so we got this game which I assume he Stewart probably wants out of all of us. What a giant board game? Sure, some kind of fantasy board game. It's called fire and axe. Okay, so ages 12 plus that includes me Thank you very much. Thanks very much Glad we could help you. That's nice. That's nice. Great to victory. Thank you. Steve and Nicole last names with hell. But now on to letters. The moment you've been waiting for, it's letters time.

The letter is effect. time. The letter is effect. And this first letter goes like this, Hey, Dan, Stu and Elliott, my ex-girlfriend took her life this morning. She was my first girlfriend and we ended it up back together for a period of time, some 13 years later. I only bring this depressing news to you because I believe that we should hear more about the Rocket Prokadala Action Squad and how we can support the American Society for Suicide Prevention. I wish I had the foresight to offer more support to such organizations before someone left us. Please get out of the message that there are people who want to help and who can help. Love you guys. Blake last name withheld. I know this is a downer to start the letter section with, but I'd like to start the letters with the downer ones, but you know, it's an important message. And the rocket rocket all action squad was something that started on our Facebook group page organized by our fans. We did a contest with them

to select a movie for the flop house and they raised a bunch of money for the American Society for Suicide Prevention. And I just want to say that, you know, just get out the message that, even without the contest, you can donate to the American Society for Suicide Reserves prevention. It's a rare confoundation for suicide prevention. Sorry. And you can also buy a poster, the Rocket Crocodile poster at topiaco.com that we have there that proceeds from that go to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. And, uh, yeah, I mean, this is also obviously an opportunity in addition to being a world

donate. Uh, I guess it, I mean, it's, it's just important to reach out to those people and people that you think might be in trouble, just, I don't know. To reach out to people and it's, it's horrible to hear of someone who is beyond help for that reason. And I think a lot of us myself included have had times when someone that they had a feeling that they should say something to weren't sure how to do it. And so didn't and lost that chance forever to say anything to that person again. And so it's a horrible thing and to anyone who, if you think someone might be feeling

that way, it's worth reaching out. The worst that happens is you can pretend you were joking and it'll be real awkward for like five, 10 minutes and then things will go on. Best case scenario is you reach out at the right moment and stop someone. And if anyone here has listened to this has had those thoughts or has had those feelings, it's good for you to try to reach out as well. And I know we've all talked about our

experiences with this kind of stuff that like I firmly believe that the reason I am here is because people reached out to me and I in turn reached out to them, even though it was hard to. And if anyone here listening to this has had those feelings, then the only cure for it is other human beings, as difficult as it might seem. So please find this strength that I know you have to take advantage of that and to reach out to someone whether you're worried about someone else or you're worried about yourself. Yeah. It's a it is a it is an action that cannot be taken back and every time you hear about it,

it seems like it didn't make sense at all. But you only hear about it if you're still around. So that's something to hold on to if you're thinking about doing it. Yeah. And here's that this is a thing, this is going to sound stupid, but like, not to keep bringing everybody down. This is going to sound stupid, but like, not to keep bringing everybody down. This is going to sound stupid, but like, if you're thinking this way for yourself, pretty much any reason you can think of to hang around is a good reason. There were times when I was younger, when it was like, oh, I want to read that thing. And that was a good enough reason for me to keep going for a while.

So you might be able to find just the smallest thing that you're interested in or that you don't want to miss out on and take advantage of that. You know, but the most important thing is to, is other people, you know, that's the only cure. And sorry for your loss, Blake. Yeah. Um, but now it's time for a neck breaking change in tone. Thanks, Dan. As we move back to our regular

Bigger's is back to the emotional whiplash that the Vlob House is known for. This one is brought to you by fart last name with help. And he says, I farted. I love your show. This is from Brian Lassy with help. Blessed. Who writes, Hey, peaches, I've noticed something 1996 Jim Carrey's last Matthew Broderick movie, The Cable Guy Guy Seems to have earned itself a bit of a following these days since it portrayed a quote darker Jim Carrey rule And for being part of Ben Stillers and Judd Apatow's uvra as well as featuring the before their well-known likes of Jack Black Bob Lone Kirk David Cross and Owen Wilson in supporting roles

This prompted me to rewatch it to see if my opinion has changed in favor of it. It has not. Considering the talent involved, I found it to be pretty nondescript, annoying guy makes uptight guys are living hell scenario, which is one of my least favorite comedic devices, say propane, straints and automobiles, and maybe what about Bob and the flop house. Sorry, that was on call for a dance of the tide. Oh, that was sad. I'll admit that what? The side. Hold on a second. I'll admit that the Jeannine Garofalo medieval times bit was funny, but I didn't really find enough in the film to warrant the cult classic status,

but stood upon it. I feel like this guy meant to post this to his blog. No, no. So he accidentally sent it to us. There's a question attached to it. Am I right? But that's just me. I'd see you, Ari, Colin, the cable guy. But that's just me. Can any of you think of a film that wasn't initially received favorably,

but underwent a positive reassessment that you personally don't understand? Thanks, Brian last name withheld. So he's asking about movies that originally were not received well then went over assessment that you disagree with. Disagree with. And I, a couple of ones occur to me that like I feel like people younger than us have which is a, there's like this weird affection that people like and this is pure nostalgia, I assume, because nothing else accounts for it. But baby legends lost time. People are like totally into space jam. And-

But that's all ironic. No, it's weird sex stuff. People are livin' to it. People are seriously livin' to it. No, but it's all ironic. So it's all ironic and stalking. It's gonna be either way. It's gonna be like something that was initially

very critically acclaimed or like in yours? It is not. Well, I feel like the English patient is that where like it was super critically acclaimed and then suddenly everyone in America decided they hated it. And it's a fine movie. It's nothing amazing, but it's not a bad movie. But everyone decided it was garbage.

Space jam, people must like that the same way I like, say by the bell, where it's by the bell where it's like I know it's crap But it's something I watch a lot as a kid. I have so much trouble leaving someone's like this is underscored classic Space jam right in prove me wrong America prove me wrong. I think it's all emotional, you know if you have a Yeah, I'm trying to I mean I can think of a lot of examples of things that we've well received initially and then now are hated on like your like forest gump, Shawshank redemption. American beauty. American beauty, perfect example.

But like this, I'm not thinking of what I'm saying about. It's just emotional. So the same reason my dad likes the Beatles, like it's not good, but it's what he grew up with, you know. Oh, wow, not making friends with that one. Very controversial. I definitely feel like this is happened before, where something has gone under got an equitable reassessment.

I'm like, no, they were right the first time. This was terrible. I don't know. It's hard for me to, it's so much, so much happens so much more often that something good goes under the radar. Everything from, it's a wonderful life to Gremlins too, you know, and then eventually is rediscovered in a way.

I mean, trouble thinking of examples where something was hated and then people were like, no, it's good. And I mean, maybe like Goonies, which is a movie I've never liked, but my generation of kids, I liked it a lot. Like, liked it a lot.

You don't like Goonies? I've never liked it, but when it kids I liked it a lot You like boonies? I've never liked it, but when it came out, the critics hated goonies. And I'm with the critics. I just don't like it very much. People can like it, I don't care. Goonies. Um, there's stuff.

This is one of those times where I wish Dan like told us what was gonna be in the letters ahead of time. Yeah, I'm gonna prepare. Insert it in prep. It's like a prep my mesenplots. I mean, that's a good one. That's a good one to us to our listening public. Yeah, right in. Tell us Facebook page, right?

Right back in. Just write it in as an iTunes review, baby. Put five stars and then give us your explanation. No, that is good. Right back in and we can revisit this maybe in a future episode where we've had time to think about it a little bit more because I do think that there are things that I feel this way about. Have wrongfully been reassessed.

But to move on, this one is from Marcus last name unknown Marcus Aralius or just like us. I'm spirit named Marcus my mates and I saw you in DC last night Thanks you for bringing your zany humor to the nation's capital. Oh, I'm glad somebody saw that show since the recorder busted And it will be somebody correctly assessed us as being Zane. I hope the warm reception leads to return trips. Oh, on behalf of the city, I apologize for any adverse traffic you may have suffered. Like the question lines. The only really traffic problem we had was when we tried to stop to use the bathroom with the NSA headquarters. And we couldn't find quite a lot of.

And we were detained for several hours. We couldn't quite find our way out of the traffic circle. The question line was pretty long. Otherwise, what it would have asked, what movie villain, human, animal, robot, creature, food group, et cetera, has characteristics that most mirror each of you. Now some individual shout outs. Thank you, Elliot, for your all around quirky brilliance. You seem like the Tony Stark of the group.

Thank you, Stuart, for bringing in every man's its ability to the group. You're the Jim Belichio. You're like, I don't know, the Thor of the group. Thor's on every man? Yeah, he's like Jim Belichio. He's literally a god. And thank you, Dan, for creating this magical enterprise.

That definitely makes you the Nick Fury of Flauppers. I like to see that. You guys are awesome. Marcus Last name unknown. So what would that make you, Halle? Show up every once in a while. Just for the record. You know the marvel that the MCU. Yeah. Sure. I don't know who any of these people are. So I guess that's a problem. I guess she's the agent Colson of the group. I guess that's a compliment. I guess she's the agent Colson of the group. Okay, continue, Halle. You were about to say something. Oh, no.

Go ahead. Okay. So, what movie villain close, wait, what movie villain do we most closely resemble? Yeah. Is that, is that right? I think so. That has characteristics like this. So you were already talking about Goonies Elliot.

So yeah, you're like Mama for Tally. I've heard that before. Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, you're a pinch aunt for hats and having a bumbling brother who's following you around. And Dan, you're very clearly the blob since you arrived to Earth in a meteor and killed a farmer almost instantly.

Yeah, wow, so that's two of them. Okay, we're halfway there. Yep. And Stuart, I'd say you remind me a lot of Tim Curry and legend because you love to laugh. you remind me a lot of Tim Curry and legend because you love to laugh. Yeah. How you do I do? It's so to see. No. So also your red skin and enormous head horns.

Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's for Halle. Oh, it's got to be Kathy Bates and Misery because she loves a good book. I'm gonna say the car from Christine because you have headlights and you drink gasoline. I have headlights and you drink gasoline. I have headlights. My breasts are very small.

It seems like it was the beginning of a vagina monologue. It was weird leading. I didn't know that it was my fault. It's my fault. I think head lights is like an absurdist thing. I like an absurdist thing, but yeah, I can see why that I was smart. It's my fault. I think he just had headlights as like an absurdist thing. I like an absurdist thing, but yeah, I get to see why I would get it. You can see how it's a healthy vegan girl and headlights being pretty common slang for breasts.

I thought I was just using locker room dog guys. So topical this episode. I know. It'll age poorly. Don't worry. Now clearly Dan is the triffits from day the triffits because he doesn't like to go into the ocean. Sea water dissolves him. I love the ocean. Oh, then you're Ursula from Little Mermaid.

I'm Ursula from Little Mermaid. Oh, because you steal people's voices. And your legs are tentacles. And you have two eels that follow you around. It's all about my body, Stuart. Hashtag relevance. Hashtag 26th, Hashtag pre-woman president. Hashtag, you'll pay.

Hashtag, I'm with her. Hashtag by her, I mean, Halley. Hashtag, Duff to all stewards. Check your, check your privilege. Hashtag, not all stewards check your check your privilege Hashtag not all stewards But my legs are too hard to answer All these questions are too any kind of didn't you choose off the question?

Come on you chose like you brought this upon yourself. I imagine in your office There's a giant last window that you have been using a marker to write the answers to your questions down like you're a Sherlock Holmes type. He has a Sherlock Holmes hat that he wears in his office. Yeah, when he's. I don't wear it because he's hunting around for the jokes. Yeah, he's talking for deer.

I just required it for a costume. I mean, for me, for villain, it's any sort of like nerdy or kind of irritating villain. What's the question? Uh, like, uh, you're the guy from, uh, the Incredibles, for instance. Yeah, exactly. They go syndrome's Incredibles. Yeah. I'm really obviously chet from weird science.

Oh, nice. Yeah, I can see that. Is there depressed villain? Is that does that happen? Probably Maybe I'm just like that guy from civil wars like my family all dies There's emo sure. Yeah, we're helmet Zemo rather. Yeah, he seemed pretty depressed. He wasn't happy. Yeah So I hope that's good enough for you Wait, I have my answer. Mm-hmm. Hold on. How is Penny Penny's not a villain, but that's who I am. Yeah, you are Penny though, but are you Penny from from a mis Inspector Gadget you Penny from P.V.s. Playhouse from inspector catch

No neither of them are villains Isn't penny from P.V.s. Playhouse like a chair or something? No, that's cherry. I know there's a playmation girl with pennies for eyes and she has adventures Oh, I think you could be either of them. Yeah, I could see you because I'm a Oh, I think you could be either of them. Yeah, I could see you because I'm a generic girl in your imagination If anything you really old Namir up to us tonight, Hallie right hashtag First woman president hashtag. I'm with her hashtag

Not all not her the movie hashtag her the person hashtag get out the vote hashtag rock the vote hashtag Rock the boat hashtag sit down you're rock on the boat Hashtag don't sit down lean in All right last letter of the evening This is from Nick Glass, who writes, Jints, is there a level of gore, grossness, sadism, etc. in horror movies? You can't slash won't tolerate. Stuart's already shaking his head now.

The older I get, the less I'm interested in grim, relentless horror. I will never see martyrs for this reason. I also can't stand what I very subjectively define as more cynical nasty horror films. And for that type, I probably topped out with a devil's rejects. I think we can all certainly agree that a Serbian film is a stupid disgusting piece of shit that no one should watch. I've never even seen it, and I know I don't want to see it. Love to hear your thoughts. You're the best. Nick, last name

with hell of PS Come to Philly. Yeah, you've made it seem real welcoming. Tell us about something you like sometime, Nick. I definitely have felt like there's a level of gore that I can no longer fully stomach. Yeah, like martyrs and some of the French horror films are a little too much for me at times. But a lot of times it depends on the context of the movie. Like, if there's something I'm supposed to be getting out

of it beyond just gore, then I can stomach it better than if it's just like non-stop people get their skin flayed off and their eyes pulled out. But if it's really silly, it's really silly, then I can totally, let's like he mentioned he used the word nasty. And it's like the fact that with the video nasties in England, like a bunch of those were like evil dead and things like that, that were not, they were kind of goofier movies, but now, if it's really gory and it's silly, then I can totally buy into it.

And if it's super serious, then it's like, I'm just seeing people getting hurt. I don't like. Gour is in the problem, it's myelism. What's the, Stuart, what's the home invasion English movie where everyone dies at the end but it's supposed to like it's Well-rated but is that the Naomi Watts one? Oh, not not funny games, although that's a Greek that Australian straw dogs No, there's there's a lot of these

home invasion movies. I don't like because like it's just like the whole point of it is you can your life can fall apart at any time and you can be slaughtered in your own home and nothing can be done about it and you're dead and that's it and and it's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of like... It's kind of gory movie, but it's super silly. But if like the whole point of the movie is like,

what's the point of life then I don't like it. I mean like, I like the kind of horror movie where it's where- Where's uplifting? The characters have gone through hell, but at the end someone has survived and they're like, oh, there's light at the end of the tunnel. There's some sort of hope.

Or if it at least ends with a joke, you know? Yeah, like a wink at the old camera. Well, yeah, I mean, even you know, it's great shows up just be like, sorry, this time mortals. I mean, you're right there though, because I mean, return of the living dead ends with one of the more nihilist endings and horror. Yeah, sure, they nuke the old talent. But uh... Spoiler alert, the movie's 30 years old. But it's still like, it's kind of a joke that they do that. Well, that's a semi-saturical movie already. Like, it's not a nihilistic ending in terms of like,

life is a grim pageant, and then the lights go out. It's nihilistic in terms of like, can't trust Uncle Sam, can't trust the military or the government. It's cynical, but it's not nihilistic. But, yeah, sometimes some movies are there just to make it feel bad, and I like that sometimes, but not when it's like a gore movie. Like, a movie like, cries and whispers, you feel bad at the end of it, but I like that movie a lot.

But if it was like a super gory, bloody, I'd feel like you're not making me feel bad because you're saying something about like human loneliness. You just make me feel bad because I'm seeing how much people get cut up. Right. And not even cutting up footloose. Mm-hmm. Everybody cut footloose.

And the song was because originally it was about, Kevin Bacon was a serial killer who cut people's feet off. Yeah, yeah. And that's why they outlawed dancing. Nobody can dance. Like everyone was dying. Everyone's losing their feet. Yeah, bleeding to that. Everyone's like Karyl was at the end

of Saw. Mm-hmm. The attack shoes instead of taps, they had blades on them and he'd dance all over people until they'd die from stab wounds. That was Kevin Bacon. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. Yeah. And he was called Kevin Bacon in the original version of movie too. Yeah But what's a what's a really good movie you guys like? I know you liked green room a lot I like green room, but the thing about green room is that Sonya used Gore so sparsely and So effectively that the moments when they showed Gore were super horrible, but it was like

Really it was relatively quick and it super horrible, but it was like, it was relatively quick and it left an impression and it was used exactly for what it wanted to do and then it was gone. It served a purpose. That makes sense. I mean, when it comes to really gory stuff, I just like splatter comedies pretty much. Like, like, Rickio, Rikki. Yeah, or the

four mentioned Dead Live. Oh, you guys have been talking of Hellraiser 2 for a while. You've been, it's been resurgin with you guys. We have such a great movie to show you, Elliot. Oh, boy. It's a movie that starts with someone being flayed and only gets crazier. Yeah, it literally feels like they just started the movie mids like mid-seed like they just hit play on a VHS and you're like, what the fuck is going on? Hal Razer too. Recommended. Which brings us to recommendations. Oh, that's why you're the best in the biz. I forgot that there was one more segment. Oh, that's why we need to talk a lot of times It's such a long episode.

It's a long episode, man. And I heard then the movie of the movie. So it's more than the movie. Yeah. I know you don't like to go back and edit these episodes, but this one you might want to edit. So this is the point in the podcast where we recommend movies that you might want

to watch instead of the Lazarus Effect. And I'll go first. I've got a Shakhtobah recommendation. I saw a movie called V. And that's this is V like V the final battle. V for vendetta? No, it's pronounced V, but it spelled V-I-Y. Oh, you're fucking with us.

And it was, it's a Russian movie from 1967. Well, what is, am I the recommending movie's all of a sudden? Yeah. An old foreign movie. It's, this was the first horror movie, the first Soviet horror movie released. And I guess it was because they, you know, under the Soviet regime, they like couldn't, like there were restrictions on the film industry, but they got this one through because it was a quote,

folktale, and it's based on a Google short story. Oh, yeah. And Google 13, it's about, yeah, that's right. I love the story. I love the story. I love it. Like, oh yeah, because I love it. I love it. You Like oh yeah, cuz I love it. You know what I don't, as if

You're like a secret agent where with like only most of his Hairline is right at his eyebrows. I know the Russian author, Nikolai Gogol's Works so much better than I know Gogol. So it's like you're like this one's for you. I'm like no you're taking me farther away from what I know. So the plot of it in short is that a pardon me, a priest is on break into a bar. He's on break from seminary and he goes and he encounters a witch, an old throne.

And she, you know, like it it's clear that she's a way she like rides him off into the sky and bedevils him and he beats her to death. And once she's dying, she turns back into this beautiful young girl and the seminarian runs back home. And then he's told that he needs to go perform these last rights for a beautiful young girl in this town. And of course it turns out to be the same witch and she dies and he has to speak these prayers over her three nights in a row and each of the three nights have become successfully more

pardon me. It's become successfully more, successfully more crazy what happens. And for the first like 40 minutes of the movie and the movie is like only you know about 70 minutes long. But the first 40 minutes of the movie is just like a Russian folk tale. It's very restrained and like goofy and silly. And then as he's doing these nights where he's holding these prayers above over the dead body, it becomes crazier and crazier. And the effects of it are kind of like how sue a little bit. There's very handmade effects. And the energy of it is kind of like the original Evil Dead. It's got that very low-fi but still intense horror effect

Quality to it and there's actually even though it's like this 1967 goofy horror movie it has a certain Just craziness to it that's actually Disquieting and I really enjoyed it. So V V.I.Y Just watch that shit on Netflix or something It's on DVD. I bet it's probably on YouTube because it's a most film film and most film at one point put I think all of their catalog in YouTube, so I don't know if you'll have subtitles, but it might be on YouTube. Now, I do have a recommendation from us. Yeah, I would say I come here for

Shaqtober. I feel like Yeah, I feel like one time when I came here, I recommended Witchboard, which was like an incredibly recommended Witchboard, which was like an incredibly scary movie from my adolescence. And so I'm just gonna recommend we mentioned it before, but I will say Pet Cemetery. That haunts me still. Like the whole like, come on, Doc, don't make me tell you twice. And Zelda, this is- Zelda is fucking terrifying.

She's so scary. Oh my god. Cat? No, she's the sister. She's so scared. Oh my god. Cat. No, she's the sister. She's the sister. Spinal meningitis. Yeah. So the point is, it's a really scary movie.

I'm going to watch it this Halloween season, but I'd encourage people to... If you get scared to death, I will blame Pet Sematary because that movie's terrifying. It's really scared, right? So if you watch it, it's like a ring situation, you die. Okay, it's a robot that's great in that movie. Yeah, it's great. So scary. So I'm recommending that.

A fan of an old classic, a fan favorite, maybe, to be. Once you watch it, now that I suggest you, then. Okay. a fan favorite maybe to be. Once you've watched it, now that I suggest you win. Okay, well, enjoy. I'm gonna recommend a movie I saw the other day. It's one of them Shark Attack movies called The Shadows. So this is a movie called The Shadows.

It is a trim 86 minutes long, which is great. Not a short Les resofert, still perfectly short. Exactly. And it stars Blake Lively, whose career I was not familiar with before this feature film. I'm sorry, I guess you never cared about pants that fit every sister. I don't even know what that's a reference to. This is sort of the trailing bit. Oh, with Rory Gilmore in it, right?

Yeah, of course. Of all the others. So Rory Calhoun. And make America great of you in Ferrara. It's also in it. So, so Blake Lively is dealing with a family tragedy, so she decides to go surfing at a remote cove, basically by herself, and in the process runs a foul of an evil, local shark. It makes it so, like, she cut off the shark in traffic and the shark would occur so.

Kind of yeah. And so she, she ends up getting attacked by the shark and has to fight for survival and either kill the shark or save herself. And it is seems like those are not necessarily to it. Exclusion. I mean, maybe she kills the shark. She'll lose a bit of herself in the process. So it's a movie that has a really narrow focus. And I think it's very successful for that. And it's a beautifully shot movie. And the, I mean, just the way that the filmmaker uses the, like, the natural beauty of the setting to also use that same beauty to become, like, kind of terrifying and isolating.

And it's nice and short and fun and pretty gory. And Blake Lively gives a pretty great performance. A lively performance. Mm-hmm. I'm going to recommend a movie that I saw today, earlier in the day that we're recording this. I had to see today. Is that the movie you invited me to and I couldn't go because I had to work and the whole time I moaned about it. And unfortunately this is the only week that it's playing in American theaters. So after this is released, you're going to have to

watch it on Blue Rage. And that is Shin Godzilla or Godzilla resurgence, which is the first new Toho Godzilla movie in a number of years since Godzilla final words, which I've talked about on the podcast before, and it is a reboot of the Godzilla series. But it treats, it does something really cool that I liked a lot, which is, this is a Godzilla movie. Godzilla is stomping around, knocking over buildings, and getting missiles blasted. How does he look? I wasn't crazy about everything about the new Godzilla design But I liked it. They're think it won me over in a lot of ways by the end of it and the first time you see him it is in a

He looks not how you can expect and it was jarring But I won't say too much more about that because it's I don't a spoil the plot but it is He's in a dress. And he's wearing a big hat with flowers on it. Is this your cover? It's Godzilla as mini pearl. But the movie takes the tack that I've wanted to see in a movie for a while, which is, if Godzilla attacks, what's it like from the point of view of the government that is running

a country that has just been attacked by this thing and no one quite understands how it is. So it's starting from its moment zero no one's ever heard of Godzilla before and they rush through what normally is like the first hour of a movie in which bothered me about the most recent American Godzilla, which is that I know it's a Godzilla movie dude, like don't take forever to get Godzilla up on screen, like I know what it don't do this stuff for your pretending you don't know forever to get Godzilla up on screen. Like, I know what it don't do this stuff or you're pretending you don't know what it is. So they rush through that pretty quickly and the movie, it's a little too long

but for the most part, it keeps up a very fast pace and it is dealing with, what is Godzilla like from the point of view of like a public safety or public health crisis and the bureaucracy and the Japanese government that makes it so hard for them to act quickly to stop this thing. And it's what's a, it's just a really like fun movie. And by movie, that's a weird thing to say because it's about government bureaucracy dealing with a large problem.

But I had a lot of fun with it, but at the same time, it felt more meaningful than the last number of Godzilla movies. Because if the first movie was about Japan dealing with the after effects of the atomic bomb, this is very much about Japan dealing with the after effects of a series of natural and nuclear disasters that they've had and finding the government not flexible enough to deal with them quickly. And so it's a movie about a monster that's attacking, but it's really a movie about the need for an agile government that is not too high bound by hierarchy or by established protocol or by the need to jump through hoops to react to crises quickly. But there's a lot of good jokes in it at different points and it's super tense and it moves super fast.

It's a little bit like if they did an episode of the West Wing where Godzilla was attacking, and there's almost no speeches, and you're fast-forwarding through it. Because like the tempo of the thing is super fast, and they're throwing characters that you left and right, but it's like, you don't need to remember all these people. They just work in the government, it's okay. But I really enjoyed it a lot.

I was really glad I got to see it in the theaters. Unfortunately by the time this episode is out, there'll be almost no chances left to do that. But it's worth seeing on DVD when it comes out. Godzilla resurgence or Shin Godzilla. Hey, four great, Shoktober recommendations, we all did. Oh wait, I'm gonna say one thing about the Godzilla thing.

Okay. Which is that just be ready for be ready for a character who's supposed to be an American, but is very clearly being played by a Japanese actress, to have one of the worst American accents you'll hear in a movie. And this character's supposed to be an American politician, and she is clearly struggling to speak English because she's a Japanese actress. You just have to suspend disbelief because person is American. Okay, that's even better. That's for a four-shocktober recommendations.

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