The Flop House - Ep. #216 - The Gallows

Episode Date: October 29, 2016

On this final SHOCKTOBER episode we discuss the noose-is-loose would-be chiller The Gallows. Meanwhile, Elliott somehow weasels his way out of doing a Muppet voice, Stuart reveals Dick Tracy's bias against the disabled, and Dan somehow doesn't let the movie's plotting make his head explode. Wikipedia synopsis for The Gallows Movies recommended in this episode: The Handmaiden Hunt for the Wilderpeople Lemora: A Child's Tale of the Supernatural

On this episode we watched the Gallows. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm receiver for the Cleveland Browns. Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey everybody, I'm Stuart Wellington on the flop house. Nice energy stew and over here in the Reese spot. It's Elliot Kaelin. Now you may think by the laws of context, Elliot just popped open a bruski incorrect. That was stewart. Yeah, can you just jump in there Dan

and edit what I did, the sound effect, the fully work I was doing? Just put that around to when I sent some. Yeah, yeah, so the audience doesn't get confused because they're morons. And then just keep looping that in like it's a sting every time I take one of my classic tips. It's punctuated, punctuated, yeah, a little layer it. I'll lay in a lap track every time you make one of your classic goofs. Yeah, and then Stuart enters the audience to go,

like he's Kelly Bundy. Yeah, yeah. So if you guys, every time I'm right before he enters there should be a toilet's Kelly Bundy. Yeah, yeah. So if you guys, I mean, every time right before he enters, there should be a toilet flushing side effect. Like he's Al Bundy. You don't let us do my own with children. Why not?

It's been long enough. I call not bud. Okay. Oh boy. Dan's Marcy Darcy, right? Yeah. Oh god. Perfect casting.

Perfect casting. Yeah. I like about it is it's gender blind too. Sure, yeah. Perfect casting. Perfect casting. I like about it is it's gender blind too. Sure, yeah. Come a long way baby. It's Virginia's lips. Just like that new show gender blind, gender is a cop and blind is a lawyer. They don't like each other, but they have to work together.

Also, gender has all the genders and blind is blind. Those aren't their names. Well, I can't tell if Ellie is a pitch as offensive, but let me check it's cop plus not a cop, it works. Okay. The math is there. And I want to apologize to the audience, who may notice that my voice is not at its best.

Uh-huh. I'm going to blame this on it being the nighttime. I've had a full day of talking. Ellie, at the nighttime is the right time. Be with the one you love. So why won't you be with you guys? I do love you guys, genuinely. That was a honest thing.

But my voice is ruined because my son is now obsessed with the muppets. Jim Henson's the muppets. A great thing to be obsessed with. Jim Henson's the muppets. Yeah, yeah, not John Woo's the muppets. So many doves. Not William Shakespeare's The Muppets,

or Pasalini's The Muppets, you know. But, and he wants me to do the voices all the time, and I do see, I would say, yeah, with my voice all right. Let's start at the top. I think I do C plus level of Muppet voices, but it turns out, Dr. Teeth sounds like. Dr. Teeth, I've been struggling to capture,

because my son loves him. This is the question I get every day for my son. Daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Oh, Daddy. He runs, and he goes, yeah, because he's Eric Irish.

He says, Daddy, he goes, Daddy, who are the guys in the band? What's the name of the guys in the band? And you're like, Emmett Otter. Well's that's a different band. That's the jug band Well, what about River Bottom Nightmare band? No, no I just didn't the electric mayhem. Okay, I say doctor teeth. There's Janice. There's animal. There's zoot There's Floyd and eventually lips who plays trumpet he goes I Like Dr. Teeth and animal Okay, that's great.

Daddy, which is the orange guy? Janice, I guess? What about the red guy? That's animal. What color is Dr. Teeth? I honestly cannot remember. These are the colors. Yeah, you look at them and you're bringing Camp Processes.

You think I look at them and memorize the answer because These are the questions. Yeah, you look at them and you're you're bringing Camp Prozzo to the side of the video. You think I have to look at them and memorize the answer because he keeps asking me. He always goes, Daddy, in the great Muppet Caper, sing the bus song because there's a song that Dr. T. I like to may have sing the bus, it's called Nightlife.

And it has lyrics that are impossible to remember. It's like, give me my friends and give me my music, Nightlife. And he wants to sing it all the time. It is maybe the least memorable of all the Muppet songs. It's his favorite. Now. But that's all to say that my voice is not at its best, because I've been trying to do

Muppet voices. Did Joe Raposo do the songs for Great Muppet Cave for? I know that Paul Williams did that for the first... I don't know. I'll just... I'll just be a fan of Stan as time to look at this song. I'll just. Yeah. Yeah. I'll look at it. It's all about the gallows. So what we do on this podcast. Usually so Elliot normally what we do is we go on to our streaming video device. We pick up our clicker. That's what kids use nowadays to use their

streaming video. And we pick a movie. a movie usually one that's either a critical or financially unsuccessful movie now today it was just a critically unsuccessful movie and then what do we talk about uh... wait how much money did this movie make Elliott according to wickipedia this movie had a one hundred thousand dollar budget and made forty three million dollars holy fucking shit that's a lot. What are we doing with our time? We should be making that shitty movie. How much do they spend on that?

It says $100,000. I opened a bar that cost way more than that. And why didn't I do this? Have you made $43 million? I actually have made $42 million. I guess I'm so close. Yeah. But with the profit margin factored in, you're doing way worse than the makers of the gallows.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. Well, I guess I am less successful than the guy. So normally we watch a shitty movie. Let's stop the goops, enough running bits here, guys. Yeah. Let's get down to the patch.

Let's talk about the October. Uh, what's October, Dan? It's October, but more shocking. Okay. So it's the spookyers month. It's the spookyest month. Now why October? Why is that the spooky month? Because it's almost the election And look scarier than this campaign. Am I right? I sounded like K. McKinnon there anyway, so I think you're being a little cheerful to yourself look you should so. Look, you should give my mom a bit of freshness. They're also way off model.

It's me, Kermit the Frog. Oh, wow. Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da. I'm a frog, I'm under that. So, Dan, here's the thing about October. Why does the whole month have to be spooky when the last day is the spooky day? It's not fair to the rest of the month

that it gets dragged down. Holiday Creep is the name of my next movie. Holiday Creep is the spooky day. It's not fair to the rest of the month that it gets dragged down. Holiday creep is the name of my next movie. Holiday creep is the guy who hangs all those doll heads around his house and is like it's Halloween. It's got that song. Holiday creep. I thought you were going to go with the I'm a holiday creep. I'm a holiday creep and I'm stoned like this holiday creep Yeah, honey creep in on the down low TLC. Oh, thank you So yeah, this is somebody. Yeah, it's TLC the learning channel. This is the time of the year when we watch scary movies. Yeah, it's supposed to the other times of year when we also watch scary movies. It's for Nicholas Cage. Much less than we used to now that we have a whole month devoted to it. And we had a special three-peat shoptober this month. So recap for us. We hope that's enough for you,

Vultures. Wow. You Vultures. You're insatiable of thirst for content. Dan, what were the last 10 movies we watched? We watched what Victor Frankenstein and what was the middle one? And we watched the Lazarus effect. So I was really hoping. The pronunciation sounds right? Somebody on our Facebook group, whose name I have forgotten, pointed out that we are a pre-pandana superstar.

Yeah, the past two movies we watched both deal with the negative side effects of a University shutting down a science project. Yeah, so it's hoping we're gonna go three for three on this one No, but I'm not really this is take place in the school though This is a movie about a school making a poor choice in its drama department. Yeah, yeah So I get it's very similar. So let's talk about the plot briefly, because it's a very brief plot, it's a short movie, it's a tight, actually, it's a very flabby 82 minutes.

But here we go, we're at a school. Okay, we open, scary already. Smash cut, back in school. America 21st century, actually it's not true. We open, we open, it's 1993. Jurassic Park have just come out, taking the world by storm. People are storm of dinosaurs.

That they called it the dyno storm. And it was prophesied to cover turn in 60 years, the years 2053. And a hurricane of raptors is sweeping down on New York City. There's no one who could save them, no one except the commando Arnold Schwarzenegger. Oh, wow. Okay. Not himself, but his character from commando, John Matrix. And he's out of retirement. Now, in this reality, John Matrix also became governor of California. And it was

weird because he was the first covert black ops CIA type mercenary to become a governor of a major state and happened in Rhode Island. And I would think that his past association with his buddy, Bennett, who had a penchant for wearing sleeveless chainmail shirts. Shame me on undershirts. No, here's the thing. The same quip ability that served him so well in commando, the classic, don't wake my friend. He's dead tired.

Bennett led off some steam. It really served him well in the campaign, especially in the debates. Now I got a question in commando. What's he going commando? I wanted to know this for you. You can only assume because there's no underwear yet made to contain a man of Arnold's computer size. Yeah.

He's an enormous bear of a man because he's half bear. He's got an enormous bear penis of a man. Uh, well, so wait, it's, it's defended by some guard hairs. Guard hairs. Yeah, bears have these guard hairs around the base of their genitalia. Oh, yeah, that's why I don't have sex with bears. Yes, so they feel grabbing winners. The guard hairs will poke your hand like a porcupine.

Oh, wow. Now, our bears is, is that big a problem for bears that someone's going to try to steal. Oh my god, it was until thanks to Charles Darwin. He evolved a little bit. Yeah, he they hired him to do it. He's down there stiffening their hair using fucking pig fat or something. It's a he's like an evolutionary detective and a bear walked into his office. Mr. John, that bear's legs went over. No. And that bear's legs went all the way to the salmon stream.

And the bear, it was like my husband's penis has been stolen. This is a problem for all bears. Well, I can see what I can do, honey. Mr. Bear and Stain. Mr. Bear and Stain. Yeah, I can see what I can do, honey. Miss Baronstein. Yeah, Mrs. Baronstein walked in Rainer's Sexy's hair cap and blue house dress. That's another thing my son's really into these days is a Baronstein bears. Sure. No girls allowed as a personal favorite. That is a good one. I like the spooky old tree.

I'm not familiar with it, but I like the sounds of it. You like the Ernest Scared stoop at a baron-stained bear's books? Yeah, yeah, it is that, exactly. That's a wonder one correlation. So, the year is 1993. We're watching Found footage, because they... That bracelets are sweeping the nation. Would you just let me say one damn thing about what happens in this movie?

You stupid. Okay. The year is 1993, Bill Clinton just landed office. Spent that summer playing soccer with my buddy, Misha, who had a really cool retail. Okay, the year was 1993, Misha's retail was sweeping the nation. Everyone was catching soccer with Stuart Schroen's fever. There was no known cure, thousands died. So the year is 1993, we know that because it's in the corner of this camcorder screen we're looking through. It's a high school

play, something set in colonial times or perhaps, you know, the revolutionary era. And it's supposed to end with someone either being hung at the gallows or escaping it. We don't know because something goes wrong. And the student is actually hanged during the play. So you guys know drama a little bit better than me, right? Like, can't you? You know, not as well as TNT, but yeah, sure. The closer. So the play, the gallows, what's the deal there?

Is that a popular point? As far as I know that it's not a play that exists, it appears to be a not real play although it could be wrong. It looks like it's kind of supposed to be like a scroll that are a Crucible colonial era play. Yeah, colonial Williamsburg. Yeah. It's just like that part of Williamsburg in Brooklyn. That's all colonial. And I guess what the climax of the play, the climax of the playing, that does exist now. They're like due to the spell that was cast on this part of Brooklyn only things from the clonial era could exist. You know, bicycle is now horse.

It's like that old Wonderman, Wonder Woman comic where Wonder Man is a different character. Yeah, yeah, he lived in Hollywood. He was a huge star. He did. He was a huge star. The Wonder Woman comic where she goes back in time with her boyfriend and he tries to shoot a dinosaur and his gun doesn't work. And he's like, oh, that's right.

We're millions of years before the gun was invented. And as if that's how things work. He's like, Oh, that's right. We're millions of years before the gun was invented. As if that's how things work. He still had the gun, but it just didn't work because gun, the, the, the way you've seen Terminator right, dude, you can't bring that back in time. Okay. Yeah, they're all naked too. But anyway, so it's one of these plays that's set in colonial time. Probably it's a, it's a metaphor for something that was going on in the politics when the play was written. McCarthyism, the depression, who knows? Anyway, this kid is killed. Uh oh, it's a tragedy.

20 years later, same high school. Not to belittle it, but it was fictional. I don't have to pretend I'm moved by it. Yeah. 20 years late, especially because that kid. My favorite thing is in this opening, clearly some parents are supposed to be filming. We see the actual, because the crown parents are filming the thing. And one of the parents whispers to the other parent, great job on the gallows.

And I swear somebody was talking to the director. You know, they weren't because they did not do a great job on the campus. 20 years later, the school is gonna put on the same play. The school has never really escaped the shadow of that event. In fact, they have an exhibit case in the hallway about the play and the death. Yeah, I don't understand why any school... Like it's a trophy.

Like it's a trophy set up. And I don't understand why any school after a child died in the doing of this play, we decided to put on a revival of self-same play 20 years later. Unless it was some sort of radical therapy that some psychologists had prescribed to the school. Some skateboard riding therapists. There's some, like, they brought in a Viennese institutional therapist, like,

ah, clearly if they must explore the trauma and conquer the trauma. Yeah. Putons of play, kill another student. Shoez, wish you ever what you want. It will be funny this time because what happens first is tragedy. Repeat itself as comedy. So I know the listeners at home are probably thinking, oh, they're thinking, oh great, another kid's going to die and then they'll flash forward 20 years. Like Elliot said while we were watching, that doesn't happen.

Thanks for stealing my bit, Stewart. I was saying I thought we great is that they put on the play, another kid dies, skip ahead to the year 2030, the 2033. And suddenly, uh-oh. Bill and Ted have united the Cosmos, but they're amazing music. The wild salons has brought peace to the galaxy. The thing is that Destiny cannot be averted. They have to put up a fight.

They have to put the play on again. Another kid dies. Flash forward even further. Now some tragedy has struck. Well, at this point, and yeah, the civilization has been destroyed. And the only link they have left is this right that occurs every 20 years when one of the young people of the tribe is picked and killed, reenacting the scene. It's become a part of the common myth of this new barbaric era. Yeah, it's, it's to appease the great fiery

God in the sky who plunged hot death upon them. And yet they need him, but he disappears every night. And then for much longer in the winter. And then, but in the summer he's there around too much. And everyone's like, I wish the winners here, it's so hot. And then when winter comes up, they're like, oh, it's a worst, what's summer happening? It's too cold. Yeah. And that god's name is Sunni D.

Because during the apocalypse, Chuck D merged with the sun on a spiritual level. Yeah, now, except he sounds like Tonloak because I have a better idea of what Tonloak's voice sounds like in my head than Chuck D. Sure. Now I don't know. And he's always singing tone-loax song from Fern Gully.

Yep. That's a tone-loax. And when he disappears, uh... Yeah, welcome to the food chain or whatever it's called. Okay. I like how I'm gonna eat somebody, something like that. I'm gonna eat somebody. It's not Italian stereotype.

I'm gonna eat some. He's not, it's not Italian stereotype. I'm gonna eat somebody. Toadlok popular Italian rapster? I love it. Tony Loke, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's Anthony Dua's family. Anthony Loke. So it's 20 years later, they're putting on the play.

It's found footage. Yeah, that's the thing. Let me, let me say something that's a lot of this movie. Have we made it? I just wanted to make sure that we had made it clear that this it's found footage. Now, yeah, that's the thing, like I... Let me say something that's a lot of this movie. Have we made it? I just wanted to make sure that we had made it clear that this is a found footage movie, the best kind of horror movie.

It's a found footage movie, which is a cheap way to make a movie, and because you don't need good cameras, you don't need to even have your actors on screen for a lot of it. Anytime it needs to be scary, you just turn off the lights and shake the camera around so you can't see anything. If you need to cut between scenes, you just put up some digitizing effects

like the camera broke for a little bit and then it comes back. Yeah, yeah. It's a movie made in the editing room. Yes. Unlike most movies, which are made in a deli. Yeah. Made on a runway at an air-visit. Now you're derailing yourself. Nowadays, Elliot, with the way technology's advancing, you know, I was watching Black Mirror the other day. I like it. He's all about the Black Mirror these days. I didn't have it. So.

So they're going to put on the same plate. The lead actor in the play used to be on the football team. He doesn't want to be football player anymore now. He's the lead actor in the play. He has a crush on the lead actress in the play. Who's a drama geek, but she's actually just a beautiful girl. His old friend who is still in the football team, he's the one filming everything.

He's the T.J. Miller of the group who's always filming everything and is obnoxious. Yeah, he's a voracious cinephile. Yeah, and he is dating a cheerleader and they decide, they're mad that their friend is doing this stupid play. They hate the play. They hate that drama club is required class. So they have to be on the stage crew. There's a whole unnecessary red herring subplot where he's bullying the stage manager who's a nerdy kid and then the stage manager pulls a prank on him and he wants

to get revenge. So it's not even a good prank. And what this, no, it just, that's what makes me so mad is they just trick him to like fall over Yeah, they don't trick him to have his like weener fall hours Always weeners with you How was Like it fell on space on the ground He's leaning out of grab and he keeps kicking around in the dirt That'd be a great prank

Tell me you wouldn't think that's a great prank. Yeah, it's like when Vivian's head comes off and young ones, he's kicking it in my eyes at it. That's such a great prank. To have a body part fall off, and then he just can't pick it up because he's so clumsy now. Because without his penis, he's not balanced properly.

Well, it just goes to show you that football players are all all brawn and no brains, you know, Dan knows what I'm talking about. Now, here's the thing about this character. And it's something I've said before. And when my controversial statement that objectively, route, Joe Marx and the Marx brothers are not that different from any Adam Sandler character in that they're people who go and bother other people for no reason whatsoever. This guy is showing us. I mean, you're boiling it down to the most basic essence of, like, you might as well be like,

it's called first principles, man. You might as well be like, I don't know, Humphrey Bogart and Adam Sandler are basically the same person because they're, they're like captured on celluloids. That is a strong man arguing with Daniel. Yeah, it's a strong man arguing with him. No, that's whoo. It's a straw man arguing with him. Speaking of straw rope is made out of it.

There's a lot of ropes in this movie. But what this movie shows us is that your Ferris Bueller's, your styles is from Teen Wolf. These characters are your van wilders. If you were encountering one of these guys who plays by his own rules and pretends he's super cool, cool, he'd be a total dick. He would hate him.

This, the, the styles is objectively a dick. This, the, the character that's always filming everything is like, what would happen if a mad scientist took a VHS copy of a bunch of episodes of the Jamie Kennedy experiment. And he did some. Jamie Kennedy, the one where he's a can. Nice.

Finally. No, I'm a couple of days. Now, who's the Dan now, dog? I should be you're the Dan now. I don't know. So I was going somewhere with a joke where a man scientist made a living boy out of Jamie Kennedy experiments VHS takes because that's basically the level of that what the experiment was.

Experiment was to make a living day. I didn't watch that shit maybe. And through a little Malibu's most wanted in there. Yeah, why not? He's a real Jack S but we're supposed to want him to die because it's a horror movie. He's one of these obnoxious teams we want to get killed. They that he says, hey, you don't be a hilarious prank. Let's get our revenge. And I'm gonna rope in my friend Who's the star of the show? He has a crush on this girl. I don't like he's not a good actor

So I'm gonna tell him hey if you go into that play you're gonna embarrass yourself and that girl fight her that you've got a crush on is gonna hate you so And nobody wants to be in this play. I walked in on your dad telling you not to be in the play. They go back to the football team. Let's go to the school of the Milton night. I found a door that was not what locked doesn't work. Let's break in in the Milton night and wreck the set.

And that way they can never perform the play. Because obviously this guy's never seen an hour town, a play with no set that's brilliant. Thank you this guy's never seen a our town a play with no set. That's brilliant. Thank you. He's never seen a kind of dog bill a movie without a set. Yeah, but then go on and then you just read a lot of me. So his dad you mentioned his dad his dad Rick Hauser. Yeah. His name, his kid's name is Reese Hauser, which is not a name. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Cole Hauser, that's a name. No, that's a name. Yeah, it's a good red blood of the American movie star name. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So his dad doesn't want him to be in this play.

His dad also looks like he's like five years older than him. Yeah. Well, all the kids in this movie look a little too old to be high school kids. That's just the way of actors and movies too. Yeah, I guess you're right. Well, that's something to think about. So for some reason, I have a thought bank. Yes, for some reason he's convinced to do, it's the thinnest level of, yeah, well, this

is one of the brightest bulb in the haunted schools. Well, one of many things that don't make sense. Many, the kid from Modern Family. In this movie, which is that I don't understand how the guys convinced to do this. Like, he's in love with this girl who is his co-star in the play. That just made me so that if convinced to go destroy the set as if that is going to somehow, but not-

Because he is worried that he, if he is in the plane as bad, she's not gonna like him. But if they destroy the set and no one knows who did it, he can be like, hey, baby, yeah, this is terrible. I want to be in the play with you. Hey, maybe, let me console you with my hand on your arm. Now we're kissing, now I'm inside you.

That's his plan. That is a stupider plan than Serenota Bergera. Yeah. Wow. Is that how you judge all plans? Is that your yard's take that serenote? Let me rate this on the serenote scale. I give it three noses.

Very improbable. So wait a minute. Manny and modern family, that's short for Manuel, maybe? Possibly, yeah. So what that mean? Would that mean many faces in he man is man will Eduardo face it. Faces. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for clearing that up. Yeah. Oh, no, that's true. Yeah. And man at arms was man well at at Tony. Emmanuel. Emmanuel. Yeah. He's the manual in space at arms.

I think it's a manual in attorney turning actually. That's the seventh movie. Oh yeah. It's where he meant don't worry. Don't do not start giving people on uh, black manuals. What's that? What's that? I don't know. I'm giving people. Part of the she or a universe. Don't you're giving deviant art people new ideas for crossover mashup cartoon porn they can do.

So they break into the school. They start wrecking up the set in the dumbest way possible. They're literally just knocking stuff over. They're like, take this and they knock over a tree in a pot. And it's like, okay, that's the easiest thing in the world to pick up and clean. But they run into the girl fight. Yeah, it's not like the sets are the like they're breaking something that's irreplaceable. Like they're just, one guy's just kicking over little bushes. Yeah. I mean, it's barely a set in the first place.

The gallows is the prime set piece. Well, they start dismantling that, but they don't get too far because. They pull the rope down, they're like, fuck you rope. Yeah. Little did they know. I'm, you, not one of my favorite

now for H.C.A.C.O.s. Sure, it's underrated. Yeah, it's underrated, but it's not as good as the other ones that goes without saying, experimenting with the form. I mean, Jimmy Stewart is great, but he seems kind of miscasten it. It's use of color is very subtle and the effects they used for the backdrop for the sky through the window are impressive when you know the effects but come on hit yeah just because Robin would realize he was gay while watching this movie as a child doesn't mean i'm gonna get anything out of it just because it's a interesting reimagination of the leopold and lobe case doesn't mean that you know we should think of it as a top tier hitchcock. You're reading of Nietzsche and Philosophy

is a little shallow hitch. So get, take your fucking shine box. Take that rope, a movie that I like very much. Yeah, guys, I don't know if you can tell, but my, my well of rope references is pretty, pretty shallow. That's fine, that's okay. You could say something about how it's made to look like it's all one take.. That's fine, that's okay. He could say something about how it's made to look like

it's all one take. He was the found footage of its day. Even though there are a few visible cuts in it. We're still talking about the movie and not the item. That was the name of that famous player visible cuts. He just had a bunch of paper cuts though. Yeah, it made it that much more difficult to hold a pool queue, it's hands-on.

Dick Tracy was always asked when I... Oh, I'm slim and you look like a villain. I'm gonna rest you. I'm just a handicap, man. That means such a funny sketch that Dick Tracy is just arresting handicap people. No legs, huh? Come in here. No, I'm paralyzed.

I'm not a criminal. All you mutants and freaks, you're gonna lock you up. No, we? Come in here. No, I paralyzed. I'm not a criminal. All you mutants and freaks. You're gonna lock you up. No, we're just handicaps. Why are you so able as Dick Tracy? Look at this. I was about to have him go after someone he started calling blackface who is just a black guy. him go after someone he started calling blackface who is just a black guy. And I was like, now Dixracie is meant to be the racist there. Am I being racist by, by, by, but, positive that scenario possibly.

Yeah. Well, I'm going to take you in Mr. vagina. I'm just a woman. I'm not a man with some kind of vaginal thing. I'm a, I'm a woman. Sure. Tell it to the judge. Sure.

Sure. no penis. Yeah. Yeah. Worst enemy, no penis. That's what happened when the guy's penis fell off. It's just crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It fell off right through a wormhole.

He just, he and Johnnie's Davies did some sliding. And when it hits the line, the headlight, the gods, He just being John Lee's Davies did some slide. And what it hits the one they had like the gods must be crazy and another dimension that didn't it penises. It all fits together. What? When I was a kid I remember watching gods must be crazy and wondering what the deal was going on. What's going on? So many times. And it's like, that's one of those movies where there was a cultural moment where the gods must be crazy. It was not only acceptable, but people loved it.

And even as a kid, I was like, what the hell? I'm watching. You know, it was whimsical. I think that was what sure. Yeah. We need to call enough to spawn a sequel. Did two cook bottles fall spawn on the sky? I think the guy's stopping crazy, Stuart.

Let's see if positive that the gods must be crazy. Not that they may be crazy. They must be crazy for such a thing to happen. What is interesting is that it's not like they were like the Holocaust. Who would allow such a thing? The gods must be crazy. It was a coke bottle falls out of this guy, huh? God's must be he must be mad. Crom is testing us. Yep. Yep.

So some some Moshogeth monster from beyond space is playing games with time and metaphysics and we are but ants beneath his feet. Coke bottles falling from the sky. and Spanith's feet, Coke bottles fallen from the sky. Anyway, so they sneak in. Yeah. Let's, I'm going to give it the, I can't even remember the events of the, of the movie in order. They get start to being picked off one by one by a ghost. They're driven around. They bump into Fyfer, the star of the play who had seen Reese, Hauser's car parked in the parking lot and she's like, what do you do? And some of these are real names. Yeah. who had seen Reese Housers car parked in the parking lot and she's like, what do you do? And some of these are real names.

And Reese Housers was like, we're just trying to, because he doesn't want her to find out that they were just there to bust up the set. They go to the door that's always unlocked, but it's locked. They're locked in. Yeah. And it goes for the power of a lot of work. That was the moment when Dan said, it's impossible to get locked into a school. Dan was so mad about this not being how a school,

the architecture of a school building works. You don't get locked inside. There's a ghost. And there's a thing that's all over the house. It's a ghost. I have attended a school lock-in. I gotta say. And as Stuart said, what about we actually locked in?

That would be a horrible firehead. But it didn't chain the door shut. But I love that you're like, those doors are designed to be open from the inside. Ghost, done, trumped. Yeah, but I checkmate, ghost. I'm more willing to accept the scaringness of a ghost if like the rest of the world like plays by the rules.

I don't know. The ghost doesn't play by the rules, man. Ghost is by its own set of rules. The ghost is like, I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to win. Yeah, do you need the ghost to be like, oh, well, actually, I can only keep one set of doors shut at a time if they were to split up

and each try a different door, I would easily foil. Look, I know that I'm a spirit from beyond another plane of existence who can materialize teleport, telekinesis. I can make ropes appear in the middle of nowhere. I have the strength of a thousand men in that I can just tear people apart, limb from limb if I want. But the engineers who designed these doors

have outwitted me yet again. I am powerless before this anti-locking from the inside method. I'm sorry. I just can't do it. I'm sorry everybody. But ghost, could you help me open up this prescription bottle of pills? Once again, let me tell you what I can do. I can materialize as a loved one. You never even told anyone you loved. I can read your thoughts. I can enter your dreams. I can show up as a fucking slimer and eat all your dogs. I can eat, even though I'm non-corporeal, I can just gomble down hot dogs like nobody's business.

Last, the child proofing on that medicine bottle is beyond the abilities of one such as I who has passed the veil and is now a different order of being. Yeah. So, Dan, how do you feel now? Do you feel like you've been served? Yeah. Yeah. I got served. You got to see if you stepped up to the streets with me with a ghost. Yeah. And now I've been electric bootleled. These kids, they find a TV in a back room that is playing a local news story about the death of Charlie

The actor who would play who was killed in the original play it turns out he was gonna play the hangman He was so excited. He made his own costume, but the day of the play The lead actor called in sick and so he had to take that part and was accidentally killed and ever since then it turns out blah blah blah His ghost is haunting the place. Yep. He's killing him all. He's giving rope burns to their next block. The lead actor that he replaced is the dad of Reese. What's his is August house or the dad of Reese house or and so he wants to get revenge that way. How did he not know about this beforehand? That scene that was involved in this. Yeah, both maybe when he decided to be in this cursed play.

Or when he looked at the fucking photo that's on display. Or maybe that's been a display for one day. That has his dad in the picture, in the costume. Yeah. And the one thing that I would- What about all those late nights where his dad would stay up drinking, and he'd be like, Dad, what's it like to inadvertently kill a man? I know you didn't do it, but it was because you weren't there.

Because you're actually in your place. You final destinationed him or you the you ringered him. He died in your place. Oh, well, go and join the football team. Rarah, I don't know. Sispova. Yeah, bugs money, bugs money, Rararar. They're picked off one by one. First annoying guy, then annoying guy's girlfriend.

One really, I think there's one good scene. That's a great scene. Which is when the cheerleader girlfriend is killed. It's shot better than anything else in the movie. It's staged better than anything else in the movie. It's genuinely more tense and scarier than anything else in the movie, it's staged better than anything else in the movie. It's genuinely more tense and scarier than anything else in the movie. If you can go, if you Google the Gallows cheerleader death scene, if that's out there, you can probably find that.

Yeah, just watch that. It's the sort of thing where like, it's shocking. They didn't cut this and use this as the opening of the movie. And then make a better movie after it. Yeah, I mean, let's not. Even if they just added it, yeah, they just added it differently. It would have been a better thing. Yeah. It's not amazing. It just stands out in contrast. Yeah, out of context, it might not

hit the same way because it's around, it's like, I'm floating in sewage. It grows. Oh, okay. This is just a pool of somebody's urine and it's a little warmer and I feel like more comfortable in it. I'm back in the cold sewage. Yeah, gross. We're like, I'm just swallowing. The coldness of the sewage is what bothers you. We're like, here's a little bit. We're like, oh, I'm about to, oh, I've got to eat all this poop.

I'm eating, I have to eat all this poop. Okay, KFC, this is a nice, this nice break from the poop. Where it's like, normally I would not want to eat that, but, you know, after nothing but poop, if I'm a human centipede and I get the day off, I'm sure I'm gonna get a game of seeing. This episode of the Flop As It Sponsored by KFC.

Oh my God. Oh my God. Kentucky Fried Charlie. Because Charlie is the name of the ghost, and that means I got to tell Dan and Stewart that they were being chased by Charlie as Angel. Charlie is taking, he starts taking the form of it. At that aim point where they like, stop chasing his chuckies like, oh, actually, you can't

say that dude. That's intellectual property. That's it. Charlie takes, starts taking the form as a, of a hangman and is chasing them. And this school is so full of hidden rooms and secret passageways and labyrinths. And like this school is, this could spawn easily four or five books in a YA series. It's all the mystery of the labyrinth school.

But it is like it's like the Winchester Mystery House of schools. Yeah, it's just doors that go nowhere, staircases into walls. There's and they finally get to the attic and they find their dead friends there. There's one moment where they finally get to the attic and they find their dead friends there. There's one moment where they're walking through the attic and I really wanted, and you know that Charlie the Hangman is gonna come towards them. Yeah.

And I was really hoping, I was really, the opening. I'm gonna show the ones the opening, which is when it turns out Brock Obama's killing people, I guess, which he is with thrones. The one time, Elliot fucks something up. He just makes fun of himself before we have a chance. It's called a preemptive strike. Have you ever seen that scene in Roxanne?

Because that's what I just called a young nerd's defense mechanism. Yeah. I was high school for you. Oh, I hated it. Was it all the hang-in ghosts? To be honest, it was more, though though because of being trapped inside my own head. Uh huh. Then I was not like identity like I was bullied by other kids, but the bullying was not it wasn't so constant.

It was really more just being inside my own unhappy head that was bad about it. So that got real. Then anyway, what I really wanted was that for them to be in the attic and Charlie to come charging towards them and then run past and be like, there's a much scarier ghost behind me. We got to get out of here. Sorry for killing your friends, but, uh, but feets don't fail me now. They get killed in stupid ways. She'll be.

There's a, there is a, there's a shot that I really liked where they're making their way through the ductwork in the attic space of the school and they turn the camera away and then they turn back and there's just like ropes, screw, and everywhere. Like don't keep going, I don't think. And I agree with where you're going, Elliot, that we should mostly just skip to the end, but I do want to not pass over the fact that basically the villain in this movie is a noose. Like we're supposed to just be like scared of like a noose coming out of nowhere.

And I'm not saying that noose coming out of nowhere and strangling me. I mean, there was a scary. Let me, I'm going to talk about the are you afraid of the dark postulate, which is what my brother just brought up before. Which I brought up for when we were watching are you afraid of the dark on snick, which is this shows not scary. But to be fair, if we were in that situation, we would be scared. So if I was locked in a dark school and there were nooses have fallen everywhere, I'd be scared.

Yeah. But to watch it in a film is not particularly scared. It's not a visually dynamic villain, a noose. No, it's an inanimate rope, yeah. It's weird that... And it would be worse if the rope was moving around like a snake. I mean, I feel like it's weird that the, the, in a way, it's nice that all the victims

are white kids because news is have such, but it has such a tear of that Mr. Wokeover here. But I'm just saying that like, Wokeover. Yeah, through the monster from Beyond Spit. What is it? Wokeover. Which the body snatcher. What which the body snatcher? Okay, the body snatcher. Box snatcher, male.

That's a body snatcher, male. That's a fun movie. It just feels like, it just feels like if any, but if they had any people of color in the movie would have been much less taste like, even less tasteful. Oh, damn, this is everywhere. Yeah, exactly.

It's such a horrible image. That's true. I'll give you that. You know what? Your comment made sense to me at least. That's what I'm saying. It'd be like if there was, I don't know. I don't even I'll give you that. You know what? Your comment made sense to me. That's what I'm saying. It'd be like if there was, I don't know.

I don't even know how to share the story. Don't even do it. We all know what you're saying. We totally get it. No need for a parallel. No, but wait, you gotta understand. No, no, no, no, no. It's like if they were all Armenians.

And so, we get to the ending. It's just, I was gonna say everyone's been killed, but recent fight for, but there's only four characters. Yeah. Recent fight for on the stage and they realize, oh, my, my dad was supposed to be the actor. And so he wants revenge on me and they reenact the end scene of the play whose lines of dialogue that also respond to this situation.

And they only get to that point because Reese has realized he could have escaped, but he thinks Fyfer might be in trouble. Yeah. So he returns. He has his hero mind. He's willing to sacrifice himself for the girl. He would get, if this was a D&D game, he would get at least one inspiration point. He doesn't use it, but he gets it.

No, yes, that's a fair point. Yeah, fair inspiration point. And he comes back in. There's no the ghost wants me. I have to do it. He walks up's a fair point. Yeah, fair inspiration point. And he comes back in, there's no the ghost wants me, I have to do it, he walks up to the gallow, and now there's a shot from the rear. Oh, there's a shot behind them. And I don't remember which camera that is. There's a certain point where I cannot remember. There's a video camera that styles as always carrying around or whatever the character's name is, and there's the cell phone that is also recording,

and there's a certain point where I lost track of which of these mechanisms we were looking through and where they were located. Yeah, because you're so immersed in the film. Yeah, and confused by the geography of it and did not wanting to pay attention because it was so dull. But we wouldn't know, you know,

it's not dull as a wrong word, but confusing and hectic in an entertaining way. You mean, are you saying that just a shot of the floor with people's feet is dull? Cause that's crazy. Hey, some guys like that. I'm not one of them. I'm not gonna judge them,

but there's a, we see like the images flickering out a little bit like it's this ghost is messing with the digital image, and the ghost is kind of flickering in and out and he hangs Reese and then the girl starts bowing to an unseen audience and That we see that the ghost is bowing with her and someone starts clapping in the audience and it is the grown-up girlfriend of Charlie who was killed we were introduced way early in movie, and as soon as she's introduced him,

like, that's the bad guy. She's the baddie. When we introduced her, like, I don't even remember what it was that part. Because when they were filming the rehearsals, she was sitting in the back of the theater, and they're like, she comes to all of these. She's so weird, and they briefly interview her,

and she's like, yeah, I was Charlie's girlfriend, or something. All right, I totally forgot. And she appears. She looks a little crazy, but still like, I don't know, like in a small town. There's always one. Single lady, you know, you gotta.

Wow. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that means. But it's sure it's a big one. I mean, she doesn't look like a monster. I mean, you know, she likes theater. Okay. Not sure.

She's got a lot to offer. You know, one of the small town ladies who likes theater and has a lot to offer. Trying know, one of the small town ladies, the light's theater and the light's offer. Trying to set her up with one of our listeners. Yeah, a fictional character who turns out to be crazy and didn't lead with a ghost. Day, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert.

I just said it. Well, let's take it a, so then here. The real like crazy twist, and there's the real twist, which is you cut to the police are entering a house. Constituing a bad boy style raid on the house. What's it gonna do when they come for?

They walk around the house is totally dark and they're like, whatever. And they until they enter a room where it's an evidence dungeon, Stuart called it where we're watching it. To 11 and such and there's little models of the subject of fucking trademark Stuart Wellington. He rules.co or whatever, I don't have. Slash e to you. Yeah.D.U. Yeah,

because this is a business. It's called the flop. Technically a business and that they go there's a TV that's playing the the I guess the footage of Charlie what is the footage of Charlie dying or restarting I don't remember but then they go oh they're

here suspects are here you pan over because it pans over and you see the two of them sitting in the door. You see the door? For she's even to close of them together. Yeah, you see a bunch of photos of the grown-up girlfriend and Fyfer. Oh, is she her mother?

Yeah, no shit. Do you see it's crazy? You see them sitting on the bed watching this video and the grown-up girlfriend is just brushing Fyfer's hair as a mother brushes a daughter's hair. Very in one of those like, The grown-up girlfriend is just brushing fifters hair as a mother brushes a daughter's hair. Very in one of those like happy, crazy psychotic people,

catatonic trances, you see in movies. They're just blissed out that they finally achieved their vengeance and they're having a mother daughter moment that's actually kind of beautiful. And it reminds me of the kind of intimacy that mothers and daughters can continue to have, even as they get older that fathers and sons by the laws of masculine, you know, interaction are not allowed to have in our culture.

It reminds me of my friend now. Now, if my wife saw her mom lying in bed, not feeling well, and said, hey, mom, you need some support and crawled in with her and hugged her. We'd be like, yeah, that's fine. If my dad was sick and bad and I crawled in with him and hugged him, it would be weird. That's a good point, but maybe not one for this movie. I mean, that's, it's valid, whatever. So when I was watching this movie, I remember when my friend Porter had a girlfriend in college, and we made jokes about it because he was, because Porter House, his girlfriend was much younger than him. But he, you know, he like had this moment of honesty with me one time where he was

ever in college. Yeah, so she was doing high school. And he had this moment of, you know, bald face at honesty where he was explaining. Yeah, that's right. Bald faced. No, that's right. I just said, I want to say like that. You said it antiquated.

I liked it. I just said, I want to say like that. You said it antiquated. I liked it. I said it out of everyone. And he explained that he really liked reading Lord of the Rings to her. And after lovemaking, he would sit on the edge of the bed and she would brush his hair. Which is awesome. I mean, that's fine. I find that just quieting and adorable. Look, whatever they're going to do, it's an intimate moment. Yeah, no, I think that's fine. I find that just quieting and adorable. Look, whatever they're gonna do, it's an intimate moment.

Yeah, no, I think it's great. The creepy thing is that while she was brushing, she would say, hush little baby, don't say. Yeah, and she'd break bells into his hair for all of the amazing slain. But. We're getting away from how crazy this twist is.

I wanna be where the people are, but creepy. Like, let's go back to this. So the twist is that the implication is that the ex-girlfriend of Charlie, the Charlie's girlfriend, until he died, has a daughter. The two of them worked plotted and worked together with a ghost, and it's implied is she Charlie's daughter, because that would make her 20 years old. and worked together with a ghost. And it's implied is she Charlie's daughter, because that would make her 20 years old.

Why is she in high school? Is she undercover just for this revenge plot? And the police, like the suspects are here, we got them. And then, Nusus come out and start attacking them. And then Charlie the hangman is there, and he gets his face all up in the camera. The end smash cut, the gallows and big letters. So, at this point Stewart is jumping around the room.

He was like, oh! So the plan was, the plan of the daughter was like, all right, I'm going to somehow convince the school to do a revival of this murderous play, make sense. Uh huh. And for some reason, somehow I'm going to get the guy who's father we want revenge on to be my leading bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a

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if she's related Charlie she must also be related to Ruben Goldberg for the way that these Dominos are falling into place that's so here's what we do. We light a match. The match irritates a cat whose tail hits a lever. The lever gives the idea to the friend to go and break up the set. Yeah, that's the whole thing. So and also that their end game of their plot was we're going to kill two cops and then I guess what go on the run just go on the house where police show up and get murdered. It's like a Zenmore cop. But they're basically doing as the way I used to play Grand Theft Auto

where I would get tired of the mission, find a small location that I could hold up in and then just shoot people from there and see how many cop cars came after me and how big an explosion I could make. That's what they're doing but with a ghost who hangs people. Yep. Uh, it is a very non, it feels like a twist that was tacked on because they felt like there wasn't enough of a twist. I think the real terrifying thing is the fact that here we see a teenage daughter getting along with her parents. Is that the only way that a teenager can get along with their parents is for them to be totally crazy murderers? Yeah, that's, it's a shocking indictment of America's family system.

Think about it. Uh, spend more time with your kids less time on your screens. Hashtag. Unless it's playing the flop house. Playing the flop house video game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a fruit ninja style game where you use Slap and weeners on screen I think it was even be like a side-scroller or or like a salmon max style point and click yeah strategy game

Where it's like I'll put this we out with this ding dong on the freak and he'll let me through the castle door Mm-hmm, but you there's a mini game where you have to adjust the ding dong to the exact thing and your phone vibrates and get closer and closer. It's like use submarine sandwich on guys throw. Oh, so it's like like a text based adventure. Sometimes, yeah. So we should get to a final judgment on this movie. Final good, great judgment.

Whether it's never better is this movie. Final. Good, great. Judgment. Whether this is good or bad. Is this movie totally scarifying? Is it totally snorifying or is it frighteningly funny? Yes. Yes. What was yours? What? What yours?

My judgment on this movie? Yeah. It's totally snorifying. I mean, it's not snorifying in the sense of like, you didn't fall asleep, which you've done before. It was not literally snoring. Because other movies have passed that test. Very tired. I heard that at your movie night on Friday during the Howling Part 2, you totally fell asleep. Legitimately fell asleep. Was that because I guessed in my home? Yeah, was that, you know, you're like,

I guess they'll just rob me. They were hailing with chocolate, how rude you were as a host. I mean, they stayed and they watched the hailing too. Yeah, because they were all amped up because you showed them, they showed, he showed them hellbound hell razor too beforehand, which I watched recently, and is the wettest ass movie I've ever fucking seen,

dude. Okay, it looks like every scene people showed up on on set and Clyde Barker's like, get this get this spray bottle. Yeah, I'm from England. Get some glycerin. Not shiny enough. Chim chim cherry. This is such a lawn, which we've been paying, don't you, Mary Bollons? But for a movie that has so much like, like, almost like an Alice in Wonderland quality of traveling through my paintings. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's not talking about the cameras.

There's no like talking about the cameras. Yeah, it was wrong, probably. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. It was wrong. Before moving it's like that feels kind of Transportive and also like dreamlike it's so viscerally wet Yeah, it's fucking great. Okay, so the gallows though. Oh, yeah, no, it's terrible. It

It has all the qualities of like a super shitty Found footage horror movie that was banged out There's almost no other than literally one scene that we said was okay. There's almost nothing of any kind of redeeming value. I would call it a very a like it's not it wasn't snorrifyingly like sleepy dull but it was not good and like uh yeah it's just, I'm still nervous, why? I'm just wondering,

do you own understand why? And like, I guess, I guess if you're like, I've seen Blair Witch a million times, but I want something that vaguely reminds me of the Blair Witch project. Let's just watch that. If you want something funny,

the very end of this movie is kind of funny. But last two minutes are pretty funny. You have to go through the entire rest of the movie to get the full of that. It is a real shaggy ghost story. Well, for a movie that is like there's almost no scares in the first 40 minutes of this movie. It's a lot of, yeah, it's a lot of setup, but not entertaining setup. Yeah. Like there's no, it reminded me of setup, but not entertaining setup. Yeah, yeah.

Like there's, there's no, it reminded me of like, it does poorly what Carrie does so well, where Carrie for most of its runtime is just high school. There's very little like supernatural stuff, but it's entertaining high school stuff. And the characters are strongly strong. It's pretty terrifying. Yeah.

And I mean, you mentioned House of the Devil, which is a movie that's amazing, and for a large chunk of it, nothing happens. There's little, like, that's the, this movie was doing in theory the same thing that House of the Devil was doing, which is you're in a big dark building. Lots of shots of feet. And you're just walking around, lots of shots of feet, but House of the Devil is so scary, and this is so not scary.

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bar soap portable perfect for traveling camping or the gym try a bar. That soap sounds delicious. I can't wait to eat that soap. No, it's for cleaning yourself. We'll have to order some of those soaps and just, you know, try them out. Soap each other up with them. Yeah, why are you looking to be weird, Elliot? It's pretty normal, man.

I told you, Dan made the subtext text. So if each other up with them. Yeah, why are you looking to be weird, Elliot? It's pretty normal, man. I told Dan made the subtext text. I wasn't sure if you were actually referring to just taking a shower together or not. The thing is the idea of bath houses is common in almost every other culture, Elliot. That's true. You got me there.

How come it hasn't reached America yet? I don't know. I mean, don't Americans like to be clean? It has in that, I guess, the Native American, like, smokehouse tradition. Sure, I guess. You know, steamhouse, those types of things. But so to reach the American continent, in fact, it was here before we were.

You know, I think you're right, Elliot. We all learned something about it tonight here, guys. Like, you're right. There's been the flop house. Thanks, everybody. Because they all knew they were making it out with you guys. This way better is if instead of doing a podcast, we're all naked in a lukewarm tub somewhere. That would be great, right? Are you being sarcastic, I can tell.

No, not at all. Totally. Wait, so are you, I know I can't tell. No, it'd be real great. I'm a listener at home. I don't have any visual cues. I can't see Elliot rolling his eyes. But now, the moment you've been waiting for the next segment of the show, which is called letters from listeners. It's every favorite segment. Everyone's favorite segment.

And the favorite part of the favorite segment is the song. It'll be a long song, probably a song so long possibly that it just goes on incredibly and unreliably. It's the song part of a letter segment where I sing about the song for the letters segment. You know, I used to sort of just pretend to be an oasis, but over time, it's grand me down. That was the song about the song. This is the song that is the song. It's the letters time, letters time, letters time for letters. Dan, read us some letters. Okay.

Stuart makes some jokes about the letters. Letter writers write in the letters. And Ellie, it's saying this song about the letters. We all have our part to play in the play of life. Everyone has a role, drama, and strife. But at the end of the day, we take our bows, fall into the grave, and then somehow we're together again in heaven again. Wow. With letters.

All right. And so is tape before live studio audience. I'm assuming there are listeners of now steps like smashing that skip 15 seconds I didn't even think about that people probably do do that Dude is anyway My husband introduced me to your show. This is the letter. This is the letter I know this is not your way of explaining to us that one your gay and two you're married

No, I'm not a I'm not well not really surprised you gay and I'm happy that you feel comfortable coming out. I am offended I was not invited to your wedding. Yeah. Uh, it was very small. It was me and a bunch of mice. Oh, they were all wearing a different shirt. Well, they're all wearing a different shirt.

Yeah. No, this is the letter. you guys have got to help me I felt we're rabbit hole into a magical fantasy land and got married So the wedding came behind me. So the wedding cake. We had one EL fudge cookie Dan what's with the cough bro? That we 420 dudes Oh man. That was the laziest yes and me.

So the letter, your husband. My husband introduced me to your show. And we've both been big fans for a few years now. Elliot, your letter songs are the high point of every show. Yeah. And your sliced alone impressions are rare and wonderful to life. Don't know what you're talking about Yeah, and you were funnier than the other guys give you credit for

You're totally just let me just give that compliment over hand Let me know. Let me just laugh. Let me is this prey is faint enough. Let's make it a little fainter Your totally deadpan delivery is the best and makes me lol for real Stuart your super hotness combines your deep knowledge of esoteric Lord of the Rings trivia makes you too dreamy for this world Okay, I hope they're all maybe dreaming of for the great havens Hope you're all sufficiently buttered up because I need your help. Uh-oh. I'm a new mom. My daughter is- Congratulations.

Yeah. Yeah, my daughter is six months old and I'm struggling with some postpartum depression. Well, you don't have to show her a Robocop until she's nine. I'm struggling. Like my dad did with me. I'm struggling with some postpartum depression. Sorry to hear that. And I need some sad movie recommendations.

Here's why. I've always been someone who has a hard time really letting go and crying Even when I feel very sad. I'm not sure why I don't have any trouble feeling sad about sad things I just have trouble tapping in and getting outwardly emotional about it even when it might help So I've often relied on sad movies to get help to help get the waterworks going For some reason even when I can't work up any tears about very real sad things in my own life, a really sad movie can get me there.

I can understand that. So now that I'm feeling some serious baby blues, I could use a few recommendations of some sad movies to help me have a good cathartic crime when I need it. Well, don't read the comic strip baby blues because it's hilarious. Yeah. It'll be fine with laughter.

What are the saddest movies you can think of? For a while, my number one sad movie strip baby blues because it's hilarious. Yeah, it will be climbing with laughter. What are the saddest movies you can think of? For a while, my number one sad movie was The House of Santa Plug, which reduced me to a quivering pile of tears. Then I saw the wind that shakes the barley, and now that might be my top sad movie of all time. It's very sad. Anyway, can you help me cry?

Sarah last name withheld. Well, if you're looking to cry in your me, you gotta go the iron giant. But that's not a sad movie. Just makes me cry. Yeah, I mean, are we just talking about movies to make us cry, Dan? Or are we talking about things that are sad? Well, that's the thing, because for me, really sad movies don't make me cry so much. I find that a movie that has some sort of cathartic moment or transcendent moments is what makes me cry.

Yeah, I can see that. transcendent moments is what makes me cry. Yeah, I can see that. Or even just if a movie reaches a height of a particular level of quality, I'll find myself tearing up just in like joy at the thing that I'm watching. Just knowing that you'll never. I'm gonna stop the thing. I'm gonna stop beating my-

Oh no, that's a long cry. I think I'm gonna stop beating around the bush guys. I'm just our listen movies that make me cry. Okay. So, Castle Freak. Return of the And just start listening movies that make me cry. Okay. So, Castle Freak. Return of the King. Those end credits. I fucking cry. I can't help it.

That's okay. Most movies, some movies, let's just say some movies with Tom Hanks. Not Bachelor Party. That does not make me cry. No, I know Captain Phillips. You have very easy. Captain Phillips. Man, holy shit. It's like watching my dad cry. Yeah. That one made me, yeah. Toy Story, dad cry. Yeah, that one made me yeah toy story

story. Yeah, Toy Story 3 If you feel nothing watching Toy Story 3 you are a block of stone and ironically you are a toy Yep, or there's not a movie, but this gets me every time just put on the fucking Hamilton soundtrack Oh man the second either that. Either wait for it or the one at the end where Aaron Burst singing. Like that shit always gets me. Which one at the end were Aaron Burst singing? You know the one that he, where he's saying,

and after your Hamilton's been shot. Like how there is enough room for both of them in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, world is wide enough. That's the name of the song. And then there's other song that his wife sings. For some reason, the Aaron Berschit gets me worse. I think it's because it reminds me at the end of Return of the King, the animated movie where a golem dies because he's such like the sad tragic figure.

That's true. It's quite uptown and then like the song that is wife sings about like, you know, continuing his story or like who writes story. That's the last that's the end one. Those ones make me. Right. Yeah. But there's also sad movies that aren't tear jerkers. Like maybe the most depressing movie that I can think of

that I really like is Cry's and Whisper's, which is a hugely, like it's a rough experience, but it didn't make me cry. It's kind of like left me shaking, like in the end. I mean, I'm not shaking in the same way that Fury Road left me shaking, right? Could not stand up for a couple minutes. You were shaking to towel the gizmo for money.

It was like, almost shiny and crows. It was gross. It's like I was like, I could every molecule in my body was vibrating at a different level than usual. But kind of that's what's the, you know, the sphere impaled my head. Another one is, another one is, Grave the Fireflies animated movie from Japan. It was also a very sad movie and also may make it right. Depending on how you handle child death. Is it a problem if there are subtitles or not?

Because like, I recommended Peter Panchali a while ago on this podcast and like that has it ends in a very sad way and like the life of a horror who is a very sad movie, central to Baylif is it is it's you know like who gets who is not super sad, but it ends in a way that makes me cry. Like there's those you know there's there's this period of like Japanese movies where they're not tear-jerker movies, but that end up in a very heavily emotional way. Yeah.

I don't know why I'm singing out Japanese movies. Every country has movies and makes people cry, you know? Yeah, I mean, I think it's a, I have a hard time. Like if you're just looking for sad movies, I don't necessarily like no ones that make me cry because like sadness in and of itself isn't what makes me cry. Like I said, if you're watching League of Their Own, the steamer Betty Spaghetti learns their husband is died, that's going to make you cry probably.

Come on. But I've said before that like pretty much every West Anderson movie has a moment of like catharsis that makes me cry. Like there's stuff like the very end. Even the fantastic Mr. Fox. No, not that one. Okay. And not his best movie. The very end model log and raising Arizona always makes me cry.

That makes me cry for sure. Yeah. I don't know why, because it's inherently pretty silly, but it's beautiful. It's, yeah, it's because it's inherently pretty silly, but it's beautiful. It's yeah, it's it's heartfelt. And it's and it's somewhat it is a silly character who is laying bare his soul and his hopes at that moment. So just hopefully some of those are I feel like YouTube. I feel like we these are a lot of very like guy heavy versions of sad movies. A number of them involve crying it like dudes learning things or robots or toys.

Or epic quests, epic come to an end. Those are the Shakespeare said that those with the key plots. Learning things or robots or toys. I mean, I feel like I don't, not knowing this person well, I don't know if I'm the right person to answer it probably because like, what's something that made me cry a lot was,

there was a book I read about Grant and Sherman's friendship and it ended with a long description of the veterans of the Civil War going on their last parade past a reviewing stand and like, these men having been through this experience and now it was all over, like that made that made choke me up, but like, I don't know if that's something that another person

would react to. You don't know what you're going to, if you're going to react to the same thing someone else will. So these are hopefully, we're admitting that we're coming from a very specific perspective. Yes, but hopefully some of these will help you find what you're looking for. This next layer, I still haven't found like a fucking angel over here. What you're looking for. This next letter. I still haven't found. Oh, it's like a fucking angel over here. What you're looking for? Spider-man, turn off the dark. This next letter goes,

Hey guys, in episode 150, Grudge Maps, you casually asked what Amy Irving is up to. Well, she's me. Signed Amy last name with help. I had some spare time while re-listing to the episode this past weekend. So here's a list of recent credits. Then you're right. She was on alias movies, traffic 2000, 13 conversations about one thing 2001. Was that the capital? Was that Steven Soderbrugge? Who was she in that?

2002. Hyde and Seek 2005. Adam, here's some recent credits, seven years ago, 14 years ago, 16 years ago. TV, reoccurring roles in alias and zero hour guest roles in house and the good wife, 2015, the good wife, that's the most recent one. Okay. To make this just Charles murderer, spoiler. To make this less of an insane response to an offhand question

by someone who needs more hobbies, I'll touch the question. I'll pretend I have a question. Was Amy Irving related to watching and Irving? Look it up. Which actor do you wish got more work these days? Is it Amy Irving? Is it Val Kilmer? I'm really interested in favorites of yours that have fallen off the radar in the last decade or so ROCK and the USA opes John last name with hell so Are there any favorites of ours that we wish got more work these days? I mean there's a lot of older actors that don't work that I want to see in movies, but they're just They're tired like Jean Hackman first. Yeah, Jean had or like you don't see, you don't see like Harry Dean Stanton

in movies very much, but like he's very elderly now. She's weird. She's, but like, you know, that long time listeners know I'm a big fan of Carl Gugino and I wish that she was a bigger. Oh, but she's, she's got something coming up. She was just in like what San Andreas, whatever it was. She was on that terrible Cameron Crowe show, R oh she was yeah, I mean it wasn't terrible

Just wasn't if I know that I might have watched it But I watched a few episodes. I was like I don't need to keep watching this, but I can see how it's pleasant Yeah, oh my brain shut down, but she's she's in a movie the or she's in a TV show that's based on a movie that I can't remember the name of now. Looking up guys, Carla Gugino, good IMDB. I feel like Jeff Goldblum was all over the place for a while and then I don't feel like I was just on Portlandia every now and then. Yeah. Of course, I'm going to say Jeffrey Combs.

It's crazy that that guy is in every movie. I love that guy. Barbara Crampton, luckily, has been keen to see a little bit more work lately. That's awesome. I'm trying to thank. Oh I mean, I guess he's never been in a ton of stuff, but I'm a big fan of Enver Yoke guy. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly from Dol Haos and he was in Asian Carter. Don't even get me started on Agent Carter. Yeah, I'll never stop because that's a show that I like.

So much that you'll never stop. I'll never stop talking about it. There's a tough one because I feel like there's so many. And yeah, I can't think of them. Is Charles just done in that new Star Wars movie that's coming up? He is. Okay, because I like him a lot. I need something.

I haven't seen him in too much stuff lately. Oh, she's in Carly Guginos in Gerald's game. Oh, really? I think they're making a movie. Yeah, they're doing, I thought that that got, wasn't going to happen though. Are they doing a movie of it still? I think that's what it looks like. Huh. Bruce Greenwood, isn't it still? I think that's what it looks like.

Bruce Greenwood isn't it? You love Bruce Greenwood. No real opinion on Bruce Greenwood. I love Bruce Greenwood. He's gonna be fine. He's fine. I'm glad he's working too. So the answer is Bruce Greenwood.

I mean, there's a certain time when I- I think I played Lurch and Adam's family when I play the Lurch in Adams family. You love the Adams family. I do. I mean, I was every in those movies when I was a kid. Like no matter how much, no matter how good there are, like everyone seems to have and flow. Like, I feel like until, like, until the night, the night of on HBO, like I feel like I

hadn't seen John Tertoro in a while. Oh, I see him all the time in my neighborhood walking around. Really? So I did not feel like I hadn't seen John Tattaro in a while. Oh, I see him all the time in my neighborhood walking around. Really? So I did not feel like I hadn't seen him in a while. Yeah, yeah. Because I have the time he's like walking into traffic and then cars are honking at him. He's like, hey, I'm John Tattaro.

He's, I'm Tattaro here. He's just kind of in his own world. But there's, yeah, I mean, that's the having a career is sometimes you work a lot and sometimes you don't and there are a lot of times when. Sometimes your work a lot. And sometimes you don't. And there are a lot of times when... Sometimes you feel like a met and sometimes you don't. You know, like Gene Wilder passed away recently.

And for a long time, I was like, I want someone to do for Gene Wilder what Wes Anderson did for Bill Murray, which was like, take someone who had been not as much in the public eye and like make a small movie where they really get a chance to shine. Because Gene Wilder has had plenty of chances to shine. He's amazing. But like I missed seeing new things with him. But he also like, I think just didn't want to perform that much. It was his choice. It was not the Hollywood's choice to not have Gene Wilder and things. It was his choice. And like sometimes people just don't want to be doing stuff at the moment. sometimes people just don't want to be doing stuff at the moment, you know.

Which is not to say there aren't actors who are great who want to work and aren't, you know, because of the industry is unfair. We are as always going long. So I think I'm going to skip the last. Yeah, tell the affiliates. I'm going to skip to the final letter. What's the other one? What's the one you're skipping about that? Why don't you read the one you're skipping?

I'll read it very quickly and we won't discuss it. Okay. I mean, because there's really not my soul. It was just kind of funny. Do you, Dan, I love you. You're the best. Love Dan. Hello.

I just woke up after having a dream about you guys. And I thought I'd share it with you. In my dream, there's a ping pong tournament being held against the podcasters, but it was like a Mario tennis game and that everyone was using wired rackets and had special moves. And Scott Ockman was the ref. Your match for some reason only Dan and Elliot were allowed to play, as using Stewart would be considered cheating,

was against how did this get made? You guys won. The only other match I saw was Paul F. Topkins versus John Hodgman. I didn't see the end of that. Almost too evenly matched. I didn't see the end of that one, because Dan went on a pirate ship after that. I followed him there and we sang pirate songs for the rest of the night. Also Dan was wearing a long black coat,

turtle neck, and the scarf the whole time. He should wear that in real life. He looks good in it. How could you skip that letter? That was a great letter moving on to the next one. All right. So, final letter of the evening. Your flop, houses. Cool, houses. Curious writers and like myself want to know, Dan, do you dip into the backlog of letters to select a regular slate of possibly pleasurable communicates to read on air? I imagine every letter is filed away in a Raiders of the Lost Ark style warehouse and pulled from the archives by the house cat secretary.

I ask because I'm sure that for every long time listener, first time writer you read, there are thousands of regular writers who curse them and all the last name with hell to make it onto the holy used to holies that movie mailbag. What does it take to describe the perfect letter to appease you, Jackasses? Did I mention the house cat? Check. Did I make Dan sound great in the subject line? Check. Did I then seek to confound Dan and his tongue tied tendencies with an injurious onslaught of ludicrously laborious language

for the audiences or gale men? It's a literative assault. Dan, if you read that correctly, almost, you've been practicing. That was, no. When Dan's tongue is like a, a fryer tuck, if you will, you don't expect much from it until the big fight at the end. And then he's an amazing baddler.

Yeah. Up until then, it's just, give me back my mutton leg. Ah! But then at the end, it's like bam, bam, bam, bam, take it down the Sheriff's Man. So for all of us whose letters don't make it past, when I can only imagine to be a series of rigorous tests,

a series of rigorous tests to judge their inherent comedic potential, what can we do? Do we need to wish upon a monkey's paw in order to just once hear my words given voice by the tyrant Daniel McCoy? Call back, check. How does it work? Whatever, CJ last name with Hill.

P.S. Thanks for reading my letter, guys. Second unread letter writers. I'm part of the club now. So I'll say that the the two greatest tricks the Delaware pulled is convincing the world he didn't exist and inventing those gross circus peanuts and that one Keeping them in stores when everyone hates them and they're gross. That trick where it makes it look like it's taking his thumb off Yeah, that's a great trick Dan. Yeah The two Best guidelines for a good letter to be read on the flop house are the two guidelines for a good movie to be read to be watching the flop.

I think I know one of these. One, it's short. Yeah. And two, it seems like something that will foster some discussion. So if you want to write a letter, you know, keep it pithy, and maybe ask a question that can inspire us to talk about some stuff. Yeah, I mean, and failing that just be funny. Yeah, you just got to put us on the spot, so we're, we search for an A-L-L-L-L.

I wish Dan told us about this ahead of time. You may a little say some shit. Yeah. And we, I've mentioned you many times, Dan, there's like a question where they're like, can you recommend a dutter to me? And you notify those ahead of time so we can look them up. No, it's funny or for us to do production.

Yeah, it's certainly funny or if we sound stupid. I think a lot of times start thinking about it. I think it helps when you write into anything that you like to lose the first instinct, which is to be like, they're going to notice this letter and they're going to know I'm cool and they're going to want to be friends with me, which is certainly how I wrote into things for years. That's how when I wrote a fan letter to the band tool, that's certainly what I did. And just be like, hey, I'm going to write something that either says what I'm thinking about how I appreciate it or is a question and, I'm going to write something that either says what I'm thinking about, I appreciate it, or as a question, and then I'm going to say something nice and get out. Like Dan was saying,

it's like the same way that you get a head more in a job by acting professional than in like doing big stunts that people are going to notice, you know. Yeah. Because Dan doesn't read the crazy letters. And those are for a special podcast called Dan McCoy's Crazy File. And we get so many letters. I don't want to like... The days of Dan having to ask for letters on the podcast are over. I don't want to.

He was like, Mom, can you just write in a letter and just change your name? Dan, I don't... Mom last name of hell. Like, oh, mom, you can't write that. Oh no! Mom, you can't write that. Oh, no. Mom, you ruined him like, asked, ooh.

I don't want to make it sound like I'm like big timing, everyone, but like we get a lot of letters at this point. So. It's why you're saying letters. We get letters. From what we got. We got lots and lots of letters. Letters.

Letters. Yeah. Copyright, Paul Shafer. So I'm just saying that because like sometimes letters just get lost in the sea of other letters. So if you're really keen on being acknowledged on the show, maybe just keep trying, but follow the guidelines. Wow. What? No, that's fine. I don't think that that was. Lay down the horse. Lay down the horse.

No, judge stretch, or okay. That makes you Rob Schneider, dude. No. And I'm on the Sunday. Wait a minute. Oh, those. Woo. Wasn't he the bad guy, though?

I'm the bad guy. What voice is that? Rob Schneider, making copies. But I thought you were on the Sunday. But't they making fun of you. Oh, man That's what it was like on the set. I'm sure too. I'm sure hey Rob. Who am I making copies? Yeah, you know, you get it our Montia Oh this night and before I move on I forgot one one thing Jan's cragging over his book bag. Oh, it's full of books and a thermos of soup. So, uh, there's one other note, long time with her.

He literally pulled out his backpack, unzipped, and then pulled out a folded piece of paper. It was like he was fighting a treasure map, like a bottle washed up on shore while Dan was talking and he pulled out the note. Long subject line, goonies never die. Long time. This is the secret of Blackbeard's cave. Long time. Get tintin in here.

That's a secret. Get tintin and the duck, the duck brothers, we're going to have, we're going to find this one out. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud.

I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud.

I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not a grud. I'm not to your podcast. And last Philadelphia, I was born and raised. Before I started listening to your podcast, I thought I was a weirdo for my adolescent affection for the Puppet Master series.

And then I heard you guys talk about them and the full moon catalog as well with some Glee. And I thought, if a rad dude like Stuart could like these movies, then maybe I wasn't as much of a weird kid as I thought. Stuart has really pulled the wool over the podcast listening of audiences eyes. But then he used to say, no longer are the creations I thought it has really pulled the wool over the podcast listening of audiences eyes. Mm-hmm.

I think he's just super cool. No longer are the creations of Andre is too long. The subject of mockery, Elliot, but rather something to be celebrated. Clutch, close to one's breast. So thank you, fellas. You're right. It's slowly turning into Werner Heardside with the end of it. So for the gift you gave me, making me feel less odd about my childhood, I present you

with three figures from the infamous Puppet Master series, one for each of you. Please say at least one of them's Leach woman. For Elliott. For Elliott, I present Jester for obvious reasons. Oh, Elliott, do you the late addition to the catalog? Stuart, I present Torch since he's the. The late edition of the catalog. I present Torch since he's excited. Yeah.

to hunt bears with a flying flower. And he's like the creepy German dude. And even though Andre is too long fought the Nazis. Oh yeah. And for Dan, Dan got the best one. Six shooter because he has six arms and loves wearing a bandana. Yeah, just like Dan. He's a shit. Six years, the best one. Full disclosure,

I know Blade would have been the obvious choice for Dan being the pseudo leader of the group and having a hook for hand, but he's my favorite. And I'm keeping him. Also, I'm pretty positive, Dan and Elliot will just give theirs a steward anyway. So enjoy this play and I'm prominently. You mean put them up in the bar, hinterlands, which is having a great name with hell, which is going to have a great Halloween party here. The night that this is released, uh, Stewart, have you started a flop house gifts trophy wall and hinterlands? Uh, yeah, my hall of heroes. Yeah. So there's a giant penny that's got a big scratch on it like two face. There's Robin's dead body. I have many things including an amazing something that isn't even Plophouse related, an extreme teen Bible that is sitting on the shelf. I have an extreme I can't say maybe a cleric named Mural gave it to me.

Who knows? And, yeah, so I currently sitting on my bar is an intricately carved pumpkin with the visage of Myron, the titular head of the family, sitting on my bar and on the back of the pumpkin, carved into the back is, are the words, which are chilling and terrifying, upset the head and you're dead. That was put together by Interlanz patron and La Paz listener,

Brad Pearson, which is great. Nice. So, nope, Dan is finished putting all the equipment on six shooter, the removable six shooters, NG six shooters, in his little cowboy hat. Yeah, in his hat. So, thank you very much. That's the thing, dude, if I'm going to fucking Westworld, that's what I want to be. I don't want to be some fucking clown named Stewart. Give me extra thing, dude. If I'm going to fucking Westworld, that's what I want to be. I don't want to be some fucking clown named Stuart.

Give me extra arms, robots. I don't know if that's how Westworld concept works. I don't know, dude. Director, I have to post made extra arms for himself. You're right. That's foolish of me not to combine this. Thank you. But thanks again, Scott, last name was held. These are now we can move on to the next, the last segment after, no, I remembered that, which is recommendations of movies that you should actually watch instead of the gallows.

And it's going to remind you don't watch the gallows. Don't watch the gallows. I'll go first. So don't do it because don't you do it. If that shows up on your computer mysteriously, just drag it into the recycle bin, hit recycle, then open that up and hit empty trash. So I'll go first. I watch, because I watch the movie that I actually really liked. I know that sometimes I recommend that. Oh, what? You watched it.

What kind of plane was it that you watched on? Yeah. What was it that you watched it on? Yeah. What was it, a train, an automobile? I watched it at the New Brooklyn Alamo Drafthouse, which was there. Oh. Very nice. Very nice.

Bragg, Bragg, Bragg, Bragg. How was it? Incredibly humble Bragg, because it's just because anyone just moving there. Yeah, it's open to something. Yeah, but you went early, right? Did you go early? Yeah, I went early. During the soft opening, but if anyone happened to know

that it was... Did anybody take, did any paparazzi snap your fucking picture, dude? No, but I talked to our friend, Christina, who is the programmer there at the Alamo Draft House, who is likened to an angel for she has organized many floppos greetings. Yes, that's true. But I watched the Park Chan Book movie, The Handmade.

Whoa, can't wait to see that. Which was two and a half hours that flew by as quickly as the gallows. Is it not quite sure? Because of the girl on girl or Rottica, there was certainly girl on girl action, if that's your thing. Which is definitely yours based on previous recommendations.

You were, you recommend one blue is the warmest color. And what was that other one about the the subdom relationship? What? Purple of the velvet robe or something like that? Oh, yeah. Do the burgundy. Do the burgundy. Yeah.

Sure. All right. Well, you recommend two. And what was that other one with that? You All right. Well, you recommend two. And what was that other one with the? You're right. Bound. Basically, you recommend the website we live together. And suddenly, you're just a fan of lesbian or ought to go.

I don't think they do live together. Yeah. But this is a tale of there's a Korean handmade and who goes to live with a Japanese woman to be her serving girl and it becomes clear that there's more going on than meets the eye that... Yeah, the low butts in disguise. It's not a spoiler because it comes in the first five minutes of the movie that she's there to as part of an elaborate grift on this Japanese woman. And but in the course of performing this grift, she falls in love with the woman that she's there to serve first rule,

you never don't fall in love. But this movie takes part in what's the second role? Don't talk about fight club. And what's the third rule stop-dropping role okay this movie I mean these are all pretty easy moving on folds in three parts and each part is structure spoiler is from a different perspective and and provides new light on things that we've seen already while providing new information. And it's not too much of a spoiler to say that the original part of the movie is just

one tiny part of what's really going on. And the movie gets twistier and kinkier and sexier and more violent and more violent. Do you say? I think it goes along. So I really recommend the handmade and I will be surprised if it doesn't end up being one of my favorite movies of the year. So that's my recommendation. Fellows? Oh, wow. Throwing down the gauntlet with a genuine recommendation and not some bullshit you just happen to watch. Yeah, I'm amazed. That was good work,

Dan. Good work. So I'm going to recommend a movie I saw recently that I really liked called Hunt for the Wilder people. Yeah. Written and directed, no, directed and adapted by, uh, Tyco with TT, uh, who made what we do in the shadows and is making Thor Ragnarok. Elliot. I didn't know he was doing Thor Ragnarok, which somehow involves World War Hulk and, in our world, a planet Hulk. Yeah, because it's all in it. It's cool.

Don't worry about, uh, I mean, it'll all it's all in it. It's cool. Don't worry about I mean it'll make sense when I see it So on for the welder people is a charming movie set in New Zealand about a kind of rebellious youth who is adopted by a family that lives kind of in the middle of nowhere and after a variety of setbacks he And after a variety of setbacks, he and the patriarch of that family end up living out in the bush and having to after a rocky start, they kind of get along and form a really great, like father-son relationship and friendship. And it's very funny and it is charmingly made

and it's sad and great. I totally recommend it. I don't know how much of this is based on a love of the Lord of the Rings. So anything New Zealandish, I'm pretty supposed to like it. But you like other New Zealand things. I do. And Jackson things. And I also like the fact that the movie stars a certain Sam Neal.

He's someone I wish I saw. He's got more. He's got more. Great. So you should totally get, I think I really think you would enjoy the hunt for the Woller Peep Roll. Elliot. I thought it was.

It sounds really good. It has a certain, it has elements of charm that I get out of a Wes Anderson movie, but I feel I don't understand. I can't really put my finger on why I like it like. A lot of things that I criticize Wes Anderson movies for I forgive in Tyco with Titi's movies. So I can't really explain it, but it's very charming and carefully crafted, but it still feels human.

Where I feel like Wes Anderson movies are a little too, they kind of smother you. You know, it doesn't, you can't breathe in it. All right. I like his movies. What are you going to do? I'm not saying, well, I think you're bad. It's what I'm going to say. By saying you don't like those movies, you say that I who like them must be terrible.

Yep. You are aligned with, uh, you're aligned with Randall flag, the man in black. Oh, and I'm on the forces of light. So I let him by the trash can man. Yep. I'm your own dishing, baby. Oh, man. Oh, just bring that hand to God down on the

nuke now and ended for me. And Dan is part of my content. Which one am I? I don't is there like a little boy? I'll just be Stephen King. Is that? Yeah, why not? That's cool. What? Pretty man. It's a pretty good deal for you to be speaking. Yeah, you get to be Stephen King. I'm gonna recommend a movie and then I'm gonna recommend an actual thing you can go to in person But first I'm gonna recommend the movie. I mean you can go to a movie. Yeah, your local library. Nothing. Not this movie I'm gonna recommend a movie called Lemora a child's tale of the supernatural. This is a low budget horror movie from the mid-70s, 1975. And it's kind of like if Manos, the hands of fate was not a terrible movie.

There's something about like, there's a very kind of amateurish low budget feel to it, but it's such a strange kind of horror fairy tale of a movie about this girl is the daughter of a notorious gangster, but she's being raised by a minister and is incredibly pure and sings in the church choir, but she gets word one day that her father is sick and dying and she needs to go see him because she still loves him even though she knows he's a gangster. He's always been nice to her. And almost from the instant she leaves the house, she's just

encountering weirdos and creeps and monsters. And because it's all part of a plot that Lemora, the titular vampire queen, has concocted to get her into her clutches, just because she has this attraction to her. Maybe for her purity, who knows, but there's like these hairy vampire wear men that live in the woods who don't like the other vampires. And at a certain point, I was like, wait a minute. It's kind of like I'm watching an underworld movie, but it's really creepy and weird. And there's something genuinely affecting about it. So you may not have the same mileage with it that I did, but Lemora, a child's tale to Supernatural, I found to be just like a really weird, strange,

little kind of cheapy horror movie that just has this weird fairy tale feel to it that I liked a lot. On a totally different note, if you're listening to this podcast, the day it's released, I guess. If it's before Tuesday, November 2nd, to Tuesday, right? No, it's a Wednesday. If this is before Wednesday, November 2nd, then my good friend, former boss,

important person to my career, Rory Albany, is doing, he has a new one hour of standup, he's doing a show in November 2nd at 9.30 pm as part of the New York Comedy Festival. And I just wanted to spread the word about it because I'm excited that he has a new hour of standup. And you should go see it. It's part of the New York Comedy Festival.

If you can't go out and see it, then try to fund in some way to see Lemora, a child's tale is supernatural. Right after I watched that, I watched The Hunger, which I had never actually seen, and I found that their plots are similar in a lot of ways, and that both are about kind of like an ageless vampire queen who has it is drawing another woman towards her

for her own desires and purposes. There's only one of them has a lesbian scene between Catherine to Nova and Susan Sarand. Yes, but I liked Lamora Moore. Sure. Because the hunger, I enjoyed watching the hunger for its ultra style, but it's not very good. And the story doesn't hang together.

And the Lamora story doesn't quite hang together, but it feels like that's kind of built into it in a way. It's not totally supposed to. Whereas the hunger, there was a certain point where I was like, I'm like two thirds the way into this movie. And there hasn't been a lot of plot that's happened so far, but there's an awful lot of shots that could be in jewelry commercials.

Yeah. So, go see Lamora. And then if you feel like a glossy lesbian erotica, Dan, go see the hunger. Oh, I thought you were a Pigeon Rory's comedy. So I was like, yeah. Well, that's for unabashed and wonabashed, recommendation. Yeah.

So, there are a few things I want to quickly say before we go. Number one, you should go to maximumfun.org and take a look at all the other maximum fun. There's a ton of great shows. There's a lot of great shows. Oh, man, that new one is so great. The Dead Pilots Society. And you listen to it, I haven't listened to it. I just listened to a Hotman's episode, only child.

It is super great. That's a brilliant pilot. Like that's really great. It's very much we're listening to, yeah. It makes me, I've been telling Hotman for a while now that he needs to like make that himself. It's so good. My only critique. I'm glad it exists in some performance. now that he needs to like make that himself. It's so good. That's a short film.

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Just get in there as the autumn creeps towards its one month to left. Yeah. And if you want to see more Tony Okra animations, toss some money on his Patreon page. And lastly, I wanted to thank our silent audience tonight, Paul and Storm. We had internet phoenix, now Paul and Storm here. A lot of podcasts would try to capitalize on their presence by having them on the podcast.

No, we said no. Or mix them at the top that they were there. We said shut up. We do things a certain way here, Paul and Storm. Just because you're more popular and successful than us, doesn't mean you're gonna be on our dumb shit. They showed up and hung out watching this terrible movie and Dan was like in his head like,

hmm, should I set up some more microphones? Yeah, that's a lot of work. But I'm so tired. Yeah. But my hands are too work. But I'm so tired. My hands are too lazy. I wanted to invite. Just sit up for microphones. I'm the edge baby. That's what's not what happened. My voice barely sounded like that. I would have to put down my drink and I don't want to do that. I keep raising the drink to my mouth. But before we go, I wanted to ask our invisible audience,

Paul and Storm, whether they had anything that they wanted to plug. Is there any? Oh, you should ask. Come up to the microphone. Hello, everyone. And that'd be the first to say rare rare. Wow, that's perfect.

I wasn't doing an imitation. I was just quoting. Sure, yeah. We have literally been stifling our laughter for about an hour and a half. And then we got to the recommendation section of A. Yeah, they're like, yeah, they're 11 and some funny tweets. So shout out to my home by Merlin Mann because we're here and he's not, ha ha.

Anybody else we wanna, oh yeah, we, if you got Merlin you got it all. That was it really. That's all in the vlogger end of Merlin's like. No, we, since you asked, we help run an annual weeklong comedy music festival nerd con cruise thing. Faster and funnier ball. Sorry, I'm, it's late and I've been drinking a lot of Coca-Cola.

I should help you talk faster. We run into that. You think Pepsi is the fun here, Soda. We help run this event called Joko Cruz. It's a week-long comedy, music, festival, nerd-cruise thing hosted by internet singer-songwriter Jonathan Colton. There's a crap ton of people on it. You can go to jokokrues.com and see all of the great musicians and comedians and authors and podcasters, oddly enough, this podcast is not on it this year, it's because we're saving them for 2018, probably.

Oh wow, a threat. If we don't meet our quota this year, we're bringing the flop house next year. You have some great Max von representation this year. I know, Sobhons gonna be on there. We got this. We got this. We got this. We got this with Sydney.

Yeah, we got Justin and Sydney with Sorbonne's. We got this with Hal Leblin and Mark Gagley. Already'll be there. I like those guys. Welcome to Night Vale. We just announced today is gonna be performing on there. A bunch of great musicians, Amy Mann, Ted Leo, John Roderick, Jonathan Colton, Paul and Storm.

Prior years, John Hodgman has been on. I'll accept for one by time. So that's useful information. Yeah. It's John Hodgman, adjacent, I guess. But there's a whole bunch of great, I mean, we got Matthew Weiner, creator of Mad Men, is going to be there this year. Yeah, we don't know when.

Dan's beard is twitching. Yeah, a lot of Matthew Winer being there. Bunch of great, we add Brew Baker, Gail Simone, Chelsea Kane, a bunch of authors and comic book creators are coming, it's gonna be a really great time. There's no aspect of being a nerd that is not covered. It is all represented.

This is a big help. And then it's all wrapped up on a cruise ship with fruity drinks and stops at place where there are beaches. You can go. Oh, we're taking over in Mexican town. We are, yes. And then it's all wrapped up on a cruise ship with fruity drinks and stops at place where they're places where they're a beach. You can go. Oh, we're taking over in Mexican town. We are. Yes.

You can go to jokokruz.com to find out more about that. I like, let's leave it as a mystery as far as how we're doing that. 1848 all over again. There's a bunch of tape. There's a bunch of tabletop gaming. There's gaming creators who come on and play test stuff. I remember that. Man.

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Well, just because this is like 40 minutes longer than the movie was yeah but October is coming in and It's always a sad time to pack up the rattling chains and Just oil the hinges on that squeaky door Mm-hmm with the ghosts to bed and shave the wolf man Describe a broom and say, hush now boogins, I'm going to put you back under the porch, were you belong?

File down the vampires teeth and glue the leaves back on the trees. You just set that mummy on fire. Because it's because these will got dog poop wrapped in it. That's right. Put them on a doorstep. Yeah. But we take what you're destroying. Yeah. It belongs in a museum.

It's a valuable artifact of human civilization. And it is dick is a totally good sex head. Sex head. Sex head. Why is it all dick's and leaners with you? I don't know, dude. I think I'm going through something. Well, while we untangle Stuart's phallic obsession, you guys could that sounds like the

the SNMX movie where they're not even trying talent obsession. All right, we know what you're going to know we're getting with this one. It's both too high-brow and too low-brow somehow. Tagline untangle the web. Starring Stewart and Eliv and Dan and co-starring, but very interesting roles. What I'm trying to say is, thanks for listening. We'll get catch you next time. Good night, everyone. I'm Dan McCoy.

Oh, yeah. I'm Stewart Wellington. And untangling Stewart's issues is I'm Ellie Kaylin. See you later. Yeah, that's the audience. It's really all right. No, you ruined it. Oh.

Oh. All right. Sean Connery. As Jumbo, Sean. You used to do a bit, uh, the Daily Show was Sean Connery, as Alzheimer's and he thinks he played every movie role. Oh, that was when I played Jack Nicholson in a few good men. You can't handle the truth.

I said to myself, as Tom Cruise in the same film, never forget when I played the raptor in Jurassic Park. I was a clever girl. Yeah. Oh, you know one of those intros tonight on the flat-house? Yeah, we are. Blobbity BlueBity. Mm-hmm. Perfect.

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