The Flop House - Ep. #235 - USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage

Episode Date: July 8, 2017

It's Cagemas in July, with the utterly forgotten USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage. Meanwhile, Stu teaches us how the cool kids say "Indianapolis," Elliott makes fun of an adorable old veteran, and Dan invents the WWDND bracelet. Meanwhile, Owen Wilson shows up way too much. Wikipedia synopsis for USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage Movies recommended in this episode: I Am Not Your Negro Crumb Baby Driver LIVE SHOW ALERT! We’ll be at the PHILLY PODCAST FESTIVAL on July 16th at 8:30 pm!

On this episode we discuss USS Andy andapolis men of courage Wow, we're Owen Wilson. We're not in this movie Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey it's me, Stuart Wellington. And it's me, Elliot Kalen. Wow. Wow. We're in my Owen Wilson. Wow. Ernest Hemingway, I can't believe you're here. I love your books. Wow. All right. Wow. That's a good impression. Wow. Ross Chast from the New Yorker cartoon page is here in 1920s. Wow. I understand why that would be true. It seems very strange. Wow.

Rhonda Sheer from USA. Up all night. This is amazing. Wow. Weird. Midnight in Paris sequel. Wow. Harvey Kertzmann, creator of Mad magazine. What are you doing at? Wow. Oh,

so what do we do? We've only had new listeners right off the bottom. I think We've brought them all in what if that new listeners own Wilson? He's like, wow, I'm on a podcast. Wow, the flop house. I did this. I didn't even remember that. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't look in the mirror when he does it. And then he'll be trapped in that mirror. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, wait what So yeah here at the flop house podcast It's a podcast that you download off the internet, okay, and then you listen to it with your family or something on a road trip who knows Thanks for explaining the idea of podcasts The person who just downloaded one. Well, what are we do on this specific podcast, Daniel? On this specific podcast, I'm going to hide you asked Elliott Kaelin. We watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

And on this episode, we watched USS Indianapolis, men of courage, at least most of it. I mean, we were in the room while it was playing for the entire year. I went on a, at least one bathroom break. It's a long movie. This is like two hour and 10 minute long movie. I don't know that we've ever got a movie together with a horror movie. Guys, we made a movie. We shouldn't have watched this movie.

Wow. I wanna whoopsy. Wow. I forgot to mention why we watched this movie, why we settle on it. Cause it's Cage, Missing July. It's that special, second most special time of year, Cage, Missing July.

When we celebrate the even lesser works of Nicholas cage in the hottest of months July. You know, they say July. I'm not looking at it on a Nicholas cage face. Maybe that's a weird thing to say as I was saying, you know, they say July is the cageiest month. But I guess I should have been a pair of ragged cages scuttling across C's, I mean, I can't help you out because I don't know this poem. It's all TS Eliot stuff. Yeah.

Did you say that April's the coolest month thing? Dan, look it up in your brain box. Okay. I'll take out my box full brains. Okay. Find TS Eliot's. Yeah. Get up to my thinko machine

that reads memories. Wow, TSELEance. Wow, no, I've got a Wilson's brain. No, wow, I'm upset that movie. They saved Owen Wilson's brain. Wow, thanks for saving my brain. Wow. Anyway.

Anyway, in our world, Owen Wilson says wow a lot. Yeah, they saw me at night in Paris. He does say wow on movie. It's a movie I like, actually. So, USS Indianapolis, Men of Courage, if you haven't heard of this movie, there's a reason for it. It was a big flop. But it's got an all-star cast, Nicholas Cage, Tom Seismore, Thomas Jane appears in at least

two scenes. James Remar is two scenes Mother scratch and Remar Who is I don't think we talk about him much on the flop house, but he is I think a favorite of ours I would say oh he's so great he I mean You know, I don't want to get ahead of myself here guys, okay? He can come on to this piece of trash and immediately you're like, oh wow, I might actually be watching a movie for a second Yeah, and then he waltzes off and we're like, oh, it's not a movie anymore I like him because his name sounds like James Rebar

Which is that metal stuff that gets stuck through people all the time in action films Yeah, yeah, and it holds your building together. Yeah, I just mostly think about it as the thing that and just people in action They put it into building so that it can be propelled out by explosions to get through people or I think of it because that was the name of the bar slash wedding venue that our friend Joe got married at and then a couple months later the owners just Surprisingly ran away after they'd taken a whole bunch of wedding deposits and all these these people are totally fucked, because they'd like to be in their wedding, and this fucking dude just bounced with all their cash. So if your wedding was ruined by this, just write to James Remark,

here at the USS Indianapolis, one, two, three, bad movie street, Hollywood, California, 90210. Now, let's talk about the movie. This movie is based on a true story. It's specifically the true story that most people know from the monologue that Quint tells in Jaws about the USS Indianapolis, the Navy ship

that delivered the atomic bomb before it was dropped on Japan and then was sunk by a Japanese torpedo and guys fell out of that boat right into the mouths of some hungry sharks and the men were floating in the water forever while sharks were just nibbling on them. Now guys, I don't want to, you know, you know, flex my credentials here being the only... Please don't flex your credentials. They're the resident at Torn. The only resident, the only resident Hoosier here.

But I believe it's to locals. It's known as the USS nap town Nap town. Yeah, that's what locals call it anapolis is nap town Why do people take a lot of naps there? No, cuz that's if you say any anapolis weird and you remove some of the letters It sounds like nap. You think they'd call it like Indy No, that's for that that's for non-locals. Okay, but local's called nap town. Nap town, yeah. So if you want to be cool, just for the rest of this podcast, just call it USS S. Wait, how many S two S's nap town? I think I'm comfortable not being cool.

Dash, it occurred. Okay, so seems disrespectful to the hundreds of real men who lost their lives in the Shark invested waters, but all right. Naptown it is. Naptown is. So Mario Van Peoples directed a movie called USS Naptown. It would have courage. I'll tell you who wasn't napping. These guys were trying to be in by sharks.

They were taking the longest nap, the dirt nap. But there was nary a dirt to be seen, because they were in the water. They were buried at sea or more specifically buried inside a church belly. What's happening about what's happening or are we talking about like the characters? Okay, we had to talk about it. All right, so it's 1945.

When you're in the end of World War II, they don't know that, but they hope it is. And there's a sequence where a bunch of men in a dark room basically just tell us what's going on in the world at the moment. It's one of those scenes where the audience needs to be brought up to speed about where in history we are. So people tell each other stuff they'd know.

So guys like, look, Truman's been president for three months and we want the war to end soon. We got like, they bond, they attack to sit Pearl Harbor. We fought back, but they've been fighting back hard too. And the other guys in the room should be like, yeah, we know, dude, like we've been living through the same time you had. The guys like, for doors are very big right now. We wear them everywhere.

Everybody's swing dancing, as we'll see in a scene later in the movie. Meanwhile, racism continues. So many needs to cut together an alternate opening to the Star Wars movie where it just has a bunch of guys sitting around basically reading the opening crawl to each other. That's kind of what this was.

The only thing that would have made this more official if he was like, look, fellas, Truman's been in office for three months. The war's coming to an end. The Beatles were just born. And in 20 years, they're going to change the way we look at pop music. But for now, we've got to get this A-bomb over to Japan. Yeah. But it didn't go quite that far. Anyway, they decided they got to deliver this A-bomb.

Also, this is a movie where the Manhattan Project and the Atonkbomb, a project so secret that Harry Truman was not told about it until the president died and he became president. Everyone seems to know about it. So there's a part where Nicholas Cage is being told you're gonna carry a secret device and he goes, is this related to the Manhattan Project, sir? It's like, was he reading in a magazine about it? Like did he catch something on the news about how the Manhattan Project was coming along?

But anyway, so they decide. He's got a copy of highlights for kids. They figured they'd hide it in there. Inside that picture where it's like a normal picture, but there's lots of little things inside it. Gufus has become death destroyer of worlds. Gallant cleans his room. Gallant decides not to unleash the power of the split atom upon the world, but Gufus just wants the war to end quickly.

So anyway, they're going to deliver the parts to the atomic bomb. Nicholas Cage is the commander of the USS Indianapolis or a Stewart calls it the USS Naptown. Locals. And we are very quickly introduced to a bunch of dumb sailor characters. There's the guy who has the girlfriend he wants to propose to and she's rich

and he feels intimidated by that. There's the guy with the girlfriend. The girlfriend is like really great dancing scene. It's like the first time the movie wakes up for a second is they're like, hey, let's have these people dance. They're like, let's have them swing dance. And every extra in the scene should either be totally too energized or just sitting there staring into space doing nothing.

No, we're in between, please. But anyway, there's a lot of dancing. But he also has a friend and it's hard to tell the two of them apart because they really look alike. Yeah, they're just too kind of like beefy, handsomey guys. There's the white guy in the black guy who don't like each other and get into fights and are thrown in the Brig. There's the guy who can't swim who talks about how he can't swim. There's the guy who's in debt and there's Like weasley guy the weasley guy with glasses and so and that can you Rogers?

No, no, no, if only that is not what I would describe a weasley guy looking like No, Kenny Rogers is always struck me as kind of like a really respectable werewolf Yeah, yeah, but he also like was like he's the richest guy in town And the sponsors the local elite team in the library Mm-hmm the head werewolf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that loop guru that you're like, oh, I'll call him by the French name. That's cool.

Because he's really classy, yeah. Well, the guy where it's like, I don't, you know, you shouldn't, you should be afraid of him because it's a wear wolf, you know, he's gonna do the right thing. Yeah, you find out at the end of the movie though that he's the wear wolf, that he's the one who's been controlling everyone.

Like, oh, he doesn't just have, he's the master wear wolf. He's the, yeah's been controlling everyone. Like, holy, doesn't just have a master werewolf. He's the, yeah, yeah. Is there a movie called Master Werewolf? Also, I think you're thinking of vampires. I don't know if there's usually a master werewolf unless like the alpha of the pack. And he's just called a lot of beta cuck wolves.

Oh, man. Oh, he's going back to that. Man, how bad would it be to be a werecook? We're at the full moon, you turn into a cuck, that it be to be a wear cook? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,, but again during that full moon, you're like, you become the thing you hate. Yeah, maybe the government does have a real life. And you see back in fact, in your bros with globalist beliefs. Yeah, with the idea that people should help each other. Anyway, so there's a fight outside a movie theater and in the scuffle, the guy who wants

to propose to his rich girlfriend loses his ring and it's taken by the Weasley guy. So I do want to point out that somewhere in this process where the guy is talking about how he wants to propose to his girlfriend, he says to his friend, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, which is a quote that is attributed to Wayne Gretsky, who is not alive at this point. I don't think he stole it from this sailor. Yeah. There's also a part where and so and please any ladies or men

who have an interest in the history of feminine hygiene. There's a part where a guy hurts his hand on the ship and he goes, oh, I hurt my hand and they're like, how? Put back your tampon and it's like, I thought they would use like sanitary belts at the time. I don't know if tampons the way we think about them were around in the 40s. Somebody ran in, I mean, it's popular enough that just like regular guys are making jokes of it. Yeah, yeah. That a guy in the 40s has any idea what's going on in a woman's vagina when he's not in it is astounding.

Guys, I'm off work this week. Let's go down to the administration museum and figure this thing out. There's a administration museum. I don't know. We've got to, so I guess, I guess take a personal day for that. It's right next to the museum of Sex is the Museum of No Sex tonight.

Anyway, that's what the anime museum. That's the No Sex ever. Just kidding. Just kidding. We love anime. Okay, okay, okay. They have sex with tentacles all the time. Anyway, so and there's also this rich lieutenant who's a real asshole and nobody likes him.

He's working under Nicholas Cage. Wait, he's rich and an asshole? Yes. Okay. I'll apply. I know he can sell it to me, but... You're gonna take some interesting acting choices. Now, and there's also a guy who's writing a book.

And we know this because he always has his moleskin out and he's always scribbling. Yeah, he's like fucking underwater scribbling it. Yeah, I, he's got his magic mole skin with apparently water retardant paper. Now, what kind of British children's cartoon would that be, the magic mole skin? What do we about kids who write like a magic book

where things come to life if they write about them? I think Dan's just particularly mad because every time he's working at his mole skin in the shower, just falls to pieces. Damn, I told you not to do any of your bath time writing sessions. I'm trying to draw my penis. He's like Monday, Monday engorgement diary. I can only draw myself when I'm listening wet.

You saw that paint that self-portrait bush did of himself and the shower and you're like, I want to do that. That's the one I got. Well, he was in the bush did of himself in the shower and you're like I want to do that's In the bath he did a bath one and and one reason looking like in the mirror in the bathroom. I guess. Oh, yeah, that's right Look that's you and George W. Bush have a lot in common. You were both terrible presidents. Yeah, I'm doing art in the bathroom Like you're the kind of guy. I just want to have a beer with you know You're doing it right now. Yeah, of guy just want to have a beer with, you know? If I'm the kind of guy that I want to have a beer with, you're like George W. Bush, you're like the kind of guy I want to have a beer with.

Yeah. I guess we've had beers together so that's like for a million years. Yeah, since the dawn of the ape man, anyway, there's a bunch of the- The dawn of the planet of the apes. You're watching- That's the name of a movie, man. Let's get through this piece of garbage movie. I want to just want to say one thing.

Normally on this podcast, we would try to get through most of the plot. Here's the thing, there's a bunch of little plot threads of different characters. Let's not bother with them. This is a very old-fashioned movie in two ways. One, it's a very old-fashioned kind of like,

a bunch of different plot lines and then they all have to deal with the same disaster. In this case, the disaster is a ship that sinks and sharks. It's also old-fashioned that the special effects and it looked like Super terrible. 90s CD-ROM game level, like these are sub-sci-fi channel level effects with some of the most CGI-ist ships and planes and torpedoes and sharks. It was like every now and then you were like, wait a minute, was World War Two about America versus reboot?

Like, was that, hold on a second, was the, when the access power is declaring war on the money for nothing video? Yeah, yeah, when, when they shoot the missiles at their ship, they're like, somebody just get judged, doomed, or dip all over that thing. So the point is they're all on this ship they're delivering the atomic bombs. Meanwhile, or atomic bomb parts. Yeah, uranium. You can get it at bomb depot. Meanwhile, uranium, how does my ranium go?

Classic uranium joke. You gotta believe Oppenheimer and Fermi were telling that one all the time. Uranus, I thought it was my anus. You'd know if it was Uranus. I mean, you got to, you must have stuck a lot of ice up that thing that's so numb, you can't tell if it's yours anymore or not. Who told you? I'm sorry.

Anyway, so that meanwhile, they say, they say, they say, we'll have our escort of destroyer ships right and they go No, this is a secret mission. We don't want to draw attention You're going unescorted all the way to the Philippines to deliver this bomb Mean well and they go what it's just us against the world crazy, but James Remar tells Nicholas Cage this Well some but in a in a conference room on the ship while someone is using a blowtorch to attach a metal box of some kind to the wall. I don't know what they're doing. Like, I literally have no idea. I think that might be the radioactive material.

I think they've got like a lead box that they're carrying the material. They also have these huge crates that they're... Yeah, I don't know. Why would they store it in the conference room? I think they're too. Well, that doesn't understand. And then why is it in the conversation?

The cops in the ship like, hey, hey tell me again why they're attaching that metal box to the wall right? No you don't need to know that it's so Superman can't see through it at one point he's like this ships now under the direct control of the president I'm like maybe it's like a phone that the president can use yeah I don't think so though they never use it calls up and he's just like hey what's going on I think they don't think so though they never use it. Calls up and she's like, Hey, what's going on? I think they just want to talk. Yep. It's lovely at the top. It's me, President Owen Wilson. Wow, which is 1945. Wow, that's a good president. Wow, Joe, to Maggio, you're still playing baseball now. Mm hmm.

I'm so happy that the lost weekend came out a few years ago. Maybe it's a blocker probably. That was a couple years earlier, but wow. Stuart's parents are going to be born in a few years. Can't wait for stewards folks to be born. Wow. Hey, wow. All right, Mr. President, I got to go. Wow. Hey, I can't wait for Spider-Man to come out 18 years from now. Amazing Spider-Man number one. I know his first appearance will be 17 years from now. An amazing fantasy number 15. Wow. Remind me to get one of those, but don't let my mom throw it out. Mr. President, why is your mom keep your comic book collection?

Wow, I live at home. Wow. I don't know why President Owen Wilson lives at home. Yeah. It seems like between, he's got too many long boxes of being in president and also being a movie star. He should have grown up. It was just say it a grown as man. Yeah, yeah, we can say that. Okay, so their ship was hit in the beginning. They have bring on a new compliment of sailors. Nicholas Cage tells them, hey, I'm your captain.

Without me, you're nothing, but without you, I'm nothing. So it's like, I'm the captain now. Yeah, yeah, but he says it with like a machete in his hand. There's something. Yeah. They, meanwhile, there's a Japanese sub that is controlling the waters that they're going to go through. Yep.

And it's run by a commander Hashimoto, I think his name was. And if not, you're just being racist. But I mean, it might have been a different Japanese name. That's a perfectly good guess. I think that's what it was. It was a character introduced to us when looking in the mirror and he has a conversation with his ghost ancestor.

Yeah, who tells him, well, we should have said, well, one day I would be racist if I was like, oh, yeah, he's, I guess his name is Nissan Godzilla. Like that would be racist. If he basically said any of the lines that piston Honda would say in the punch out video game. Yep.

I think that counts. Yeah. It's racist. Anyway, so Nicholas Cage explains that the Japanese have a new type of torpedo called a kaitan, kaitan, which is, which was a real thing, which is a manually guided torpedo. It's like a kamikaze flight but underwater. It's a torpedo with a dude in it, and he steers it towards the ship,

so it's harder to avoid it. But like, apparently they would drive it for a while, and then when they get close to their target, they would like surface and be like, oh, there's the boat, and then they go back underwater and hit the cut. Yeah, I don't think they could see anything very well in where they were.

But I... So, like, they have like a little targeting computer, like in Star Wars. Well, they turn off that thing and they just use the force. No, yeah, their ancestor tells them use the force Japanese naval guy. Sure. And Japanese naval guy. Why are you calling the Japanese naval guy? You're Japanese too. To you, I'm just the naval guy. You should know my name. You're my ancestor. And the ancestors like, if I just just a naval guy. You should know my name, you're my ancestor. And the ancestors, like, if I just call you naval guy,

it makes it sound like you're a guy obsessed with belly buttons. So I thought I needed a specify. And that's weird. I could still be a Japanese guy obsessed with naval, belly buttons, you're right. Oh, this is, use your target computer. No, I'm not saying me I'm about to die. It's like, I shouldn't have been drinking before I came

to advise you. Just be using your target computer. With this, now I just want to think of things where it's Star Wars, but it's also the Japanese Navy. It's like, with this flash heel down, I can't see the ships. Anyway, Nicholas Cage explains these things. It's a lot harder to avoid them using the standard zigzag pattern. Hashimoto, every time he sends a man out in one of those torpedoes, he feels guilty about it and his hit rate is very low. And so

while they're going across the ocean, both of these guys, we see them notice that Japanese see a ship ahead of them and he decides he will fire one of the Ky-10 torpedoes. Meanwhile, Nicholas Cage is like battle stations, everyone move, move, move, move, love those guns, ah, move, move, move. And they fire the torpedo, a guy has to get in it. He's dead no matter what happens. Whether they hit the ship or not, he's dying. And it turns out, oh, it was a merchant ship.

And they missed it. And then Nicholas Cage is like, great work with the drill, everybody, we're doing great, get back to your stations. And so it's like, wait a minute, movie. You cut together to flip it to a ship and a submarine and two totally different places. And then you made us think that they were in a battle together. That was dirty pool movie. Yeah, this is dirty pool.

We just watched for our live Alamo show. We just watched stolen, which pulls the same trick. Like there's another Nicholas Cage movie where the cops are like running into a building that you think that Nicholas Cage is in and it turns out it's a separate building. And it's like, you know, like the technique that was most famously I think used in Science of the Lambs where they think that they're... We really were two ships who were in a fight. Well, they think that they're going into Buffalo Bill's house and it's not...

They're dead to be billable. Bill of buffs. Bill of buffs. bill of Riley's new cousin. Oh gross. But he doesn't look like him does he? Yeah, he looks just like him. So many folds. But yeah, it's been stolen. We are being fooled the same way the police are being fooled. Like the Nicholas Cage is deliberately doing that here Here, the movie's just jerking us around. Yeah. Because, hey, you know what else happens on this dangerous mission

to the Philippines to deliver the atom bomb parts? Nothing. They get there very fast in record time, they say, and deliver it. Now, which was great for us because we're like, oh, man, this movie's going to go super fast, I hope now. Yeah. You were wrong. Because now they have to turn around and go back also

without an escort. Because an escort might tip people off to the fact that, hey, this ship went to the Philippines. Why did do that? And people might look into it and find out there's a bombs of poppin. So they're going off long story short. They do get hit by a Japanese torpedo this time.

Their ship sinks and it takes forever for it to sink. And they basically rip off the whole sinking from Titanic, the boat tilts, it cracks in half, people fall off of it and bump into things on the, I mean, no. The special effects are worse. So that was pretty hilarious. And I imagine James Cameron is watching this movie

because he loves things about the sea and he's like, wait a minute, this is just like Titanic. Let me call my lawyer and he dies every, he dies. He's so mad. And the world mourns the director of Avatar and true lies and piranha too. And he's dialing the numbers.

And as it about to hit the last digit, he notices how bad the special fire started, he goes, never mind. And he just hangs up the phone. He's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sue for every penny of profit they make. And then you, oh, we, so, we're gonna have to pay us of profit they make. And then you. Oh, it was so.

And then James Cameron. You're gonna spend us negative $39 million. Oh, what? And James Cameron tools off and his submarine. His bathy spear. Yep. Man, that guy loves space. He loves underwater.

What does he love? He's one of the world's last pioneers. And he's one of the world's last pioneers. Yeah, Terra firma not for him. Yeah. Terra no firma, thank you. So this movie, so then everybody's falling off of it and there's a lot of like explosions and stuff. Nicholas Tage tries to go down with his ship, but he gets blasted off by an explosion

into the water and a shark zooms past him. And watching these explosions, the thought I had and I ran up by you guys was that it felt like I was watching like the six flags World War II stunt show. Yeah. Like very, very, I mean, the movie is not super low budget. I've couldn't have wicked a PDF cost $40 million. But it looked like I wouldn't do with $40 million. I could buy like $40 million foot long.

I mean, I would pay for $5. I could buy $8 million foot longs from Super Bowl. Tom Sizemort had talked to me about sharks all day long. That's what he does. He has his monologue about sharks, right? That's a decent little scene. Which is the best part in the movie is Tom Sizemore's just scaring a bunch of guys by talking about how mean sharks are if they fall in the water.

That was the one monologue in it where I was like, okay, that's a good moment. Is it as good as Quince monologue and jaws? Which tells the story of this movie? No, which is an iconic monologue in all of cinema history? No, it's not as good as that. It's not just an iconic moment in some of cinema history. I just had to mention it was all of cinema history. That seems like a really small thing to catch me on, but I guess That seems like a really small thing to catch me on, but I guess you're correct. And I could. He's got you.

So out the phone got caught on tax evasion, dude. So you're going to be jail. And when these submarine scenes as good as the scenes from DOS boot, I would not say that. OK. I would say the submarine scenes were at least as good as any of the cut scenes in the Golden Eye video game. OK.

But you didn't get to run around to submarine or a warehouse throwing mines down and waiting for your friends to bump into a big load. That you're playing piss of what slappers only. Yeah. No, I job. No, I job. No, you know, I don't want to be job of it. Just slappers. You can't reach anybody. That's trash. Or it's just your playing golden gun. No, it just hold up and shoot people as they walk by. Yeah, that's great. Oh, great game. Dan, why don't we watch that? I don't know what you watch footage of us playing gold nine. Not the movie, which is fine, but the video game.

Yeah, I don't have gold and I. That's probably among, that's probably first among many reasons why we didn't watch gold. It's actually pretty good. It's a fair reason. That's a very good reason. Okay. So, or it's because you're a Leon's co-sectorator. Okay. Isn't that what Sean Bean is in that movie? You guys fucking saw Golden Eye. Don't look at me like I'm a man.

I haven't seen it all the time. I haven't seen it all the time. I saw Golden Eye when it was released. I think that was the only time I saw Golden Eye. What is up with this Golden Eye liking denial over here? I'm not saying I didn't like it. Certainly up to that point, it was the best James Bond movie I'd ever seen in the theater,

but I think I'd only seen license to kill in the theater before that. I don't buy it. I think you guys are, I think you guys are gaslighting me and to think you don't let the Golden Eyes and awesome. It's fine. Yeah. Why are you looking at me weird?

Is that a tacit agreement? Sure. Golden Eyes. I'm saying this is great. Yeah, why are you looking at me weird? I Is that a tacit agreement sure? Goldmys I'll say this great pre casino royale golden. I was a lot higher in my esteem I don't remember it super well in all the details because a Robbie Coltrane's in it, right? Who's Robbie Coltrane playing it? He plays the Russian guy. Yeah, I do remember that remember you know what? I barely I gotta watch the Russian guy the's rushing down the level of the video game that's really hard to do because a bunch of dudes trying

to kill him. Oh, I remember that one. Okay. It's weird that my memory's the game or so much stronger than my memory's the movie. I remember Zina on a top. Yeah. It's kind of eerie how well the N64 graphics captured

the rugged features of Robin Coltory. I mean, they really got across how Pierce Brosnan's faces made out of three flat planes with a nose drawn on them. You know what? I changed my mind, gold-nice sucks. The game, not the movie. This game, the game's great. Okay, so, but so the sinking scene takes forever,

which leads us to the endless scenes of characters bobbin around in the ocean as sharks eat them. Now, this could be exciting. These people are sitting ducks for sharks or sitting cucks rather for alpha sharks. And I mean, if Owen Wilson's watching this, he's like, wow, how are they gonna get out of this one? Wow, but the movie is so slow.

And it takes it so much for granted that we would rather see these characters mumbled to each other. At times, nearly incomprehensibly that watch them be eaten by sharks from escape from sharks. Here's some actual sample dialogue from the movie. Well, I don't think Dan will die. But I have a dad if I remember.

I was gonna fly a world just from now, it's like, it's like boom Howard did all the ADR for the movie. How? I wonder how much, let's do some real talk here, guys. Okay, fine, let's get real. Let's have a little wrap session. Okay, let's have a real like night calls. Yeah. How much of this do you think was?

So like, this is a story that is. Let's talk this. This is a, this is a based on true story and the survivors of this incident, there are some there still alive. Yeah, yeah. Like, and in no way, are we throwing any shade toward the fucking dudes

who lost their lives and that's insane. This is a horrifying, real thing that happened. Anyone who survived it, I'm amazed. And my heart goes out to the people who didn't survive it and their families. They certainly deserve a better movie. A much better movie. That being said, let's skip ahead. They have some brief interview clips of the very end much better movie that being said. Let's skip ahead

They have some brief interview clips of the very in the movie of real survivors and one of the guys has the funniest thing he says where he's like It's I guess not the funniest. Maybe it's funny after watching. Well, there's almost no interviews at the end It's like it's totally tacked on right at the end to be like hey these guys were there for really like 45 seconds Where the interview is be like, hey, these guys were there for like 45 seconds where they entered. It's almost like for a moment they accidentally cut in a feed of the DVD extras. And then they're like, oh shit, the button's all greasy. I can't turn it off. Okay, great. I turned it off. But this guy says like, I was there and I saw after seeing so many men get eaten by sharks, I could never like sharks. I just think they're terrible. And I love it because one, it's like real hot take, dude,

because everyone else thinks sharks are amazing. And we want to kiss them, I guess. But there was something about the way he said it, where it was like, he's like just that vindictiveness against sharks as if they were, like as if they were... I can only imagine that years ago, his grandson came to him holding a trapper keeper with the street sharks and blazing the pond and he was a jabber job.

He's a slabber. He saw an episode of Jabber John television. He's like, no, play fucking drums. Yeah, you better get out of that band that sharks going to eat you in your friends. Whereas one day his his daughter brought home a new boyfriend. You don't deserve respect Jabber John. gonna eat you in your friends. Whereas one day his daughter brought home a new boyfriend. You don't deserve respect, Jabberjah. One day his daughter, would you eat curly?

Is that what you sound like him? Her dad, his daughter brought home her new boyfriend and he was a shark. And you just got real mad like, I'm not no Finn head's marring into my family. You get that Gil breather out of here. He has three rows of teeth and she's like, Dad, the war's over.

You can't say those things anymore. Sharks and humans are at peace now. No, wait, where the jets, the Puerto Rican gang or the sharks. The sharks for the Puerto Rican gang. Oh, okay. The jets were the white gang. Okay, so this old man could also have been racist.

I mean, it's possible because when you're a jet, you're a jet all the way from your first cigarette to your last dying day. And he did say he, if you poke a shark in the eyes, it doesn't like it. He also makes the point. That's a notably human trait. He says if you punch a shark in the eye,

it hurts it, it swims away. And he says that as if this is like a secret weak point that no other animal gets hurt by being punched in the eye, I hate to be coming down so hard in this old man. Well, again, survived a truly frightening and harrowing situation. It is in truth. He brought us a moment of joy when it's otherwise a slog of a movie. A dreary slog.

I feel like that life hack. Like, it really deserves its place in a, when you're scrolling down Facebook and something pops up that's like a life hack It should be Poker shark of the eye it'll threshold tell you something if I encounter a shark Tomorrow I'm walking down the street. I'm certainly gonna punch in the eye It's a friendly shark. What if it's a shark that's asking as new direction? Elliot you asking for directions is the first way a shark's gonna attack you

Yeah point for some time I'm just saying you shouldn't. I got out of the movies last night and this motherfucker asked me where the Barclays Center is. Like, dude, that is the oldest shit in the book. You know where the Barclays Center is. Well, it can be the oldest shit in the book. The Barclays Center's been around for like five years. Yeah, but it used to be Madison Square Garden and I'm like,

No, it didn't. I'm sick. The Barclays Center didn't use me as you. No, I mean, the line used to be. I'm sick of your SJW stuff, your shark, Justice Warrior nonsense. Hey, Dan, look, just because you don't recognize the sharks for what they are and the contributions they bring.

Mm-hmm. You know, I don't even like going down this route. Yeah. Because it makes me feel like I'm making fun of me. Like I'm making fun of people who do need that. Yeah. You actually need to be need that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think that I just barely skirted being problematic, but I'm making that reasonable.

No, I think you dove straight into that hole. Yeah. No, you can be charitable to yourself. No, I'll keep digging down. Anyway, so I apologized to everybody still. And I apologize to that old man. So that old man's great. That old man who again, World were two veteran helped us deliver the comic

to the movies. But all accounts, he was the most entertaining part of the movie. And this is a movie with Nicholas Cage in it. Nicholas Cage spends most of the movie sopping wet, just sitting on the edge of a raft, kind of mumbly and unhappy. And everybody's just kind of bobbing in the water. Tom Jane appears as kind of a cocky rescue pilot.

He barely has these scenes in the movie. It's terrible. There is a moment where he waves at Nicholas Cage and oh, the stories those guys could tell each other. There's a brief moment of like recognition between the two of them like, yep, in this one. You getting a check?

Yeah, I'm getting a check. Well, I'll write my fellow brother in arms. Like there's a little moment of samurai honor between the two I wonder I wonder if when they're getting coffee, you know in between takes if they're like Yeah, are you doing that? You doing that that that killer monkey movie next week's like no I pass on that like oh, yeah I gotta do this killer monkey. Oh damn. Oh no, Cusack's doing that. Oh, okay No, I'm doing the snake one. Which is which one of us are we? You you're going to do that movie where we

kidnapped the president's daughter, right? But we're good guys. Yeah. Yeah. We're both going to do the movie. Okay. Great. That's is it. Is it a comedy or is it a drama? And Tom James, like, I think we're going to figure that out on the set. It kind of depends how we play at Nicholas Cage is like, good point Tom, good point. Anyway, I think there's just like a club that's Nicholas Cage and Tom Jane and John Q. Zach and who else would be in that? I'm trying to think of who else would be an A-list person who has gone to that point.

There's a lot of junk. Yeah. I feel like Josh Lucas is in a lot of bad. Yeah. I mean, like, like, I feel a little bit drenched, I guess. I don't know. I feel like Josh Lucas is in a lot of bad movies too. Yeah, yeah. They all have this, they have this group that they, I want to think they call the B list squat, the A list B listers.

And they're like all A list actors who find themselves in a lot of B list movies for various reasons. And Nicholas Cage is of course the president of the club. Maybe Thomas Jane is the vice president. Yeah, for a while I thought F. Murray Abraham would be in that club, but you know, he found some lucrative TV work, you know, he might be in that club. I mean, people pass in and out of the club is a thing. Then anyway, so they're ballrooming in the water for a long time. Yep.

The Japanese. The home. 50 minutes of this movie at least is just them bobbing around in the water. Yeah, just occasionally being in Bioskisharks, usually mumbling to each other. Everyone in this movie, it's either mumbles or it's just hard to hear them over the sounds. There's a point where- I mean, the water is a color of brown that is indicative of being close to short.

Yeah. You're saying that level of silt and dirt right on the surface doesn't usually indicate the middle of the ocean. There's a part where the dialogue is so hard to hear. There's a part in the movie where Thomas James co-pilot yells something and it sounds like he's going, God damn it sandwich. And I was like, God damn it sandwich and Dan goes, that's what I heard.

It's just like the so much of the movie feels like a bad lip flat video They're bad lip breathe. What's it called bad lip reading? Yeah, I think that's right. So anyway eventually They're rescued and the war is over because news flash we dropped two of atomic bombs on Japan and Japan Did not want us to drop any more atomic bombs on it, which is a reasonable position and Japan did not want us to drop any more atomic bombs on it, which is a reasonable position. That nobody likes having atomic bombs dropped on them. Yeah, they wrote a note to the US saying, dear US, please fewer atomic bombs.

Love Japan. Love Japan, PS, we mean it. Please stop with the, by fewer we mean no more please. Yeah, so most of the name characters are saved. Tom size more, lost a leg that he was cradling for a while and then he died Yeah, and so we think the movie's done and the guy who was gonna marry his girlfriend he dies to right? Yeah, yeah, he got a little shark bit on the leg, but his friend gets the ringback from the guy who took it from go And he marries the moment in a scene

Where this guy delivers his like sad story and his crime moment. Like he's in a completely different movie. Like he's expecting to be showered in gold. This is he said he thinks for a moment. Am I Oscar Schindler wishing I could have said wondering why I didn't save more people? Yeah, that's the scene I'm doing. Okay. And it's like he and the director is

director Mario van peoples was like. Play it bigger. Probably. I mean, I just assumed that he was trying to write himself into a Flintstones cartoon as Mario van Pebbles. Yeah. All right. And hold on to that joke. Or the way that seems. Hey, look, it's only so many Mario van people jokes you make. No, remember the movie solo. So that was the only reason action star, right? No, I was going to say solo and you fucking beat me too. What other movies was he in, dude? Jaws for the revenge.

No, I know. That's where he got his taste for shark movies. Yeah. It was, yeah, just like a shark. It's a taste for blood. Mario van people is a taste for shark movies. was a yeah mention or something. Yeah. His name is Kane in the movie. Sure, of course it is. Yeah. Now I remember the West when you're talking about, but I don't remember the name of it.

I'm probably like Shark Boys, and they ride sharks instead of horses. That makes sense. Yeah. Okay, so. So anyway, they get rescued. Their lives seem to be back to normal. The guy gives a tearful return of the ring in a scene

where it feels like Mario van peoples was telling the guy bigger, bigger, and then telling the guy who was listening to the story smaller, smaller. Because the guy lying in bed, listening to the story, it's all like you can see on his face just how much longer is this? Why am I going to be done with this scene? Let's just get this over with. The two guys, the black guy and the white guy who hated each other and were in the brig because

they were in a fight. Now they're besties because they shared a raft together and they're best of friends. It's a real defiant one's subplot. Then. It's very much like the Donald Luke subplot in the movie The Patriot. Except I guess it isn't his racist that was it. That was like the classic reformed racist character

in a historical movie. You know what I'm talking about, right? Yes, the movie The Patriot. Yeah, the movie The Patriot. With Mel Gibson. This is a movie that the Patriot. Yeah. The movie, the Patriot. With no Gibson. The movie that my dad really liked because the costumes seemed authentic.

Yeah, my dad really liked it because he thought the cannonballs moved in a realistic way. I moved in a realistic way. Like they didn't sashay or what is the... What the cannonballs? Yeah. No, that like, they actually like lined up

and then they bound, like the cannonballs bounced as opposed to like Reactive like they were mortar shells. Mm-hmm. Because cannonballs didn't like they don't land an explode They bounce and like fuck everything up. Yeah, they hit you. Yeah, okay. It's like a giant metal ball Not like gummy bears. I mean they bounce around Here and there and everywhere. Yeah, I think gummy bears are inspired by real life cannonballs and the wreckage they create. There was somebody who was fighting in the revolutionary war, maybe the Civil War, saw a cannonball bouncing.

And as it flew towards him, right before unconsciousness, he said, what if that was a bear who gains magic bouncing powers from berries that it ate, or perhaps a juice that it got from the berries, and it lives in a kind of vaguely middle-European, like, medieval world with humans, and then this cannibal hit him, and that idea was lost for 100 years, until the Disney Afternoon came along. Yeah, until the Disney Afternoon found a mosquito

with that guy's DNA stuff of it. They injected me into their programming manager, and they said, I got a great idea. The Disney afternoon found a mosquito with that guys DNA stuff up it He said I got a great idea. Wow. We really worked backwards for this one. Oh, man Dan where did tales with go from someone saw I would saw the jungle booking cast a block on the same night and they had a fucking fever of 106 degrees. Oh, I'm on Trader Dan. I would say they saw the jungle book and only angels have wings. That's probably more accurate. Since that's the movie. I think it was based on but we've done like, whoa, damn looks like such a piece of shit now. You asshole. You must you guys will be as good as a shark. I think you're terrible. Just take your glasses off so we can poke you in the eyes.

You might like it, you're not a shark. Anyway, so this, that guy, that old man, it's like, you just imagine he turned off the camera, he's like, I mean it. Charks can go fuck themselves. You tell that shark he's a fucking asshole. I like that the old man, you know who else? He's probably, listen. Serial killers. I don't like them. I think they're terrible. I like that the the old man's

probably listened to our podcast and everyone's always like, oh, I'm glad they're not razzming anymore. They would just bring you right back to stick the pins in. Dear flop house, I've loved your podcast, but I never thought you'd get around to make in front of me a World War 2 veteran who survived a boat crash boat sinking and sharks. Love your podcast. Raral. Sorry, this old man. So anyway, you think the movie has to be over. It's over. Everything's done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Into a shadowy Washington chamber. As Shaila Buf would say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no And the headlines are like, who was napping at the USS Nap Town switch? But they decide they're going to accuse him of being derelict of duty.

When really the problem was that it wasn't given a proper escort to protect it from submarines. He gets court-martialed, even bringing in as a surprise witness, the commander of the Japanese submarine, the common and say, oh no, I used missiles that he wouldn't have been able to dodge. The case rests on the idea that he didn't zigzag his ship to avoid a torpedo because he thought they were kaitans, which you can't avoid by zigzagging. This guy says, no, no, I used the real torpedoes,

not the kaitans, zigzagging would not have saved him, but they need a patty. He's found guilty and court martial. I thought he said that zigaghan would have saved them. No, he says Zaghan wouldn't have saved them because he was too close. Yeah, okay. He was exoner- his evidence should have exonerated. Nicholas Cage.

But instead, they need this patty. Oh, right. So much like Abfab doesn't work without patty. It was just Adina. I was really trying to think of a Patsy in culture. That was the only one I could think of. Yeah. Yep. But we got to see you shooting out of Dan's ears right now. It's a serious thing. Who's going to go see a show called Adina? It's not even two of them, Ab Fab. Yeah. Bunky called Adina. That's how they got the idea of the show. They were listening to that song and they were like,

what if that name didn't have an amethyst? Yeah. It's an alternate history. It's alternate history. Harry Turtle Doves, alternate F. So anyway, Nicholas Cage just found Guilty against all odds. He has a one-on-one face-to-face with the Japanese commander, which they both kind of forgive each other for the crimes they committed,

even if they can't forgive themselves. And it rivals the scene in Godzilla final wars when Godzilla forgives America for dropping the atomic bomb in its accurate portrayal of human emotions. And the true aftermath of war, Nicholas Cage is horrified, he goes home, and of course, as a mother.

After kissing his much younger wife. Oh yeah, he also has a wife who appears to be his daughter. There's a part where he wakes up from a nightmare and his wife is in bed with him and is like, it's okay. And for a moment, I thought that his daughter had crawled into bed with him because there was a thunderstorm outside and she was scared. Yeah, well, she was trying to comfort her old man Who was having what night terrors? Yeah, I thought it was like the scene in a little in a tiny furniture when Lena Dunham crawls into her mom's bed and gives her mom a back rub but with a

Nicholas cage and his daughter. Yeah, it's a much weirder seat Yeah, it's a lot of weird. I kind of envy that intimacy that mothers and daughters can have that they can do that Because if my dad was lying in bed It wasn't feeling well like, and I just crawled into bed and gave him a back rub. I would find that weird. And it shouldn't be weird, because I love him the same way that he's over the nose. Maybe weird because of the spontaneous erections. I mean, that goes without saying that we get those. Because the men we wouldn't talk about.

As opposed to plan directly. Look, it's much pencil in this direction for an hour later, because I have this call I have to make. Yeah. You guys don't schedule your erections. I mean, I guess there are people that are married anymore.

You do. You don't need to. They do, people who use a Viagra, I guess, schedule their erections. Yeah, they schedule, they block out four hours just in case. Yeah. If it goes longer than that,

either see a doctor or go back around the belt or business. But yeah, I guess so anyway, what I'm saying is, how come men and dads can't be like that close and intimate? What's wrong with that? Because let me tell you, just knowing the way I feel about my son, Sammy now. When I'm older, if he wants to give me a back rub,

please do, Sammy. If you're losing this, just come along and help my back feel better. me a back rub, please do, Sammy. If you're listening to this, just come along and help my back feel better. I really needed that. Thank you, Sammy. I don't think the problem lies with the dad in that situation. It's probably all the bullshit that the son

places upon the dad. Maybe. I mean, if I crawled into my dad's bed with him and gave him a back rub, my dad would be weirded out. I think he would think of it as weird. Maybe we were just placing that on crawled into my dad's bed with him and gave him a back rub, my dad would be weirded out. I think he would think it was weird. Maybe you're just placing that on your head. Give it a try. Okay. I'll start that next time. That's what I'll do. See what happens and maybe, you know, one thing will lead to another and your relationship will be

painted. Yeah, yeah, men did. That's how that usually ends. I wonder how does it end when a guy is sexually this dad well that a positive addition to relationship? We should add a piss. That's what happened right. I don't think that's Entirely the nature of the story that we're I recall Was there a shark in it was there was shark in it there was a yeah, there's a street shark in it There was a street which one blades Big slam-o. Definitely big slam-o.

Oh, yeah. I think it was. When I said big slam-o, Dan's eyes were bright. I think it was big slam-o who warned Etappus not to investigate the death of the king because it wouldn't like where it was led. But I think he had became King of Thebes because he solved the riddle of blades.

The answer was blades. A lot of people don't know that it was Sophocles who wrote an edifice, right? The edifice wrecks that he originally started as a staff writer on street sharks before making it big on the Greek dramatic stage. I can't wait till Vin Diesel writes his hate bill that we fucked up with our street sharks. It was, I mean, there's a long collection between the great, great great track and this and animated cartoons ever since Escalus was killed by an eagle dropping an injured turtle on

his head. Oh, man, that joke pulls in so many different threads. Yeah, and I haven't even got sort of about Eurypides great masterwork, Cowboys of Mumaise. Yep. And Aristophanes is, of course, bychermized from Mars, the birds. That's funny.

I would assume that Aristophanes would write battle toads. Oh, because he wrote the frogs. Damn it. I should've seen wrote the battle frogs. Oh, yeah, I got Elliot on that shit. Oh, because he wrote the frogs. Damn it. I should say he wrote the battle frogs. I got Elliott on that shit. I can fucking die now. Speaking of dying now. Speaking of dying now. We're engaged. Seeing no way to say this on or otherwise, shoot himself in the head. We then cut to some credits that explain that. Tata, we cut to a shot of a picture of Nicholas Cage wearing an admiral's hat, which is a prop that I would very much alike to own. They hang up this in Memorial Photo.

It's a captain's hat. But it's, yeah, this photo, the look on Nicholas Cage's face, and what I assume is supposed to be like a portrait photo that his character set for, he looks shocked to be in a frame on a wall like wait what like that like the picture is on its guard at all times so I'm assuming I'm talking to you mr. Mario van peoples please mail it to the flop I was care of Dan McCoy so that I can put it on my wall it would be that would definitely go up on the wall in hinterland oh my god it's fucking awesome yeah So somebody you can't put in hinterlands. That'd be stolen the first weekend. Yep, that's true.

Yep, it would be stolen. And then I'd have to get Danny Houston on the case. With his hat, it's a stolen reference everybody. We just watched it recently. It's on our minds. So we get some title cards that tell us a little bit about what happened everybody. Eventually the captain was exonerated by President Bill Clinton in the 1990s

And then there's a couple shots where it shows you Bill slick willy Clinton right Elliot? He probably was just doing he's like, oh everybody is talking about my blow jobs I better exonerate this long dead World War two captain that was dragged That'll change the news cycle. How gladly to hamburger today and pay you tomorrow with an exoneration. That's what you would do. You'd wonder into hamburger shacks. Well, I'm not going to pay you for the hamburger, but if you need to be

charred from a crime, I'll do that later. So I guess I'm telling you, go from a crime, I'll do that later. So I guess I'm telling you, come in a crime right now. If a burger's good, two crimes, give it two burgers. I think the problem with my impression was that I wasn't doing the hand motions. I think that's what gives you the power. I did not pay for that hamburger later.

I just put't see. Oh, wow. President Bill Clinton, what are you doing here? Just to dishonorating a World War II captain for exchange for hamburger. Oh, wow. A hamburger. Wow.

Hamburger. What are you doing here? Robble, Robble. I wanted to steal the president's hamburger. Oh, oddly delusant for a moment. What if that was the all part in your hamburger. Now, and now I want to see a parody of the movie absolute power, we're instead of playing these to being a thief who breaks into a plate a season breaks into place and sees the president killing a prostitute. He is the hamburger who's trying to break into the White House kitchen to steal the president's

hamburger. It shouldn't be called absolute power. It should be called the president's hamburger. And you know who's going to play the hamburger? Tom Jane. No. And you know who's going to play the president? John Q.Sac. John Q.Sac. And you know who's going to play the Secret Service agent who's got to track down the hamburger.

God, it'd be Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage. Why wasn't? Why was an absolute power called the president's a murderer? Exclamation point. Question mark. Accentuation point. It was made in like the 60s or 70s.

That's totally what it would have been called. Oh, definitely. It was made in the 90s when generic titles ruled the day. Hey, you know, now, you know, the movie executive decision. What was that about? Someone made a decision. Executively. It doesn't have anything to as I said before it looks like

there's a guitar blade on that cover that's not it's far this delt bomber hey here's a movie where you grant has discovered that gene hackman isn't experimenting on homeless people let's call it extreme measures what what is that to do with anything you should call

it like homeless doctor or something like that or like someone is doing a good job. No, I mean, homeless doctor sounds like a good guy. I guess that's just kind of with honors with Joe Pesci. Yeah. And I think of executive decision now. I can't think of anything other than you making brutal fun of your brother about executive decision about his anecdote about executive decision. I remember his anecdote was, was it just that he saw it? It was like he was like calling it, it was like a major motion picture or something like

that and like you were taking exception about that and... For the phrase major motion. Yeah. I love that this is the one thing Dan thinks of when we talk about executive decision and he doesn't remember it correctly. Yeah, I don't remember it. There's a Kurt Russell and Steven Seagull, right? No, I'm talking about the moment.

The anecdote. The anecdote. I don't remember it. Wait, let me, I'm going to call it audible because this is boring. Yeah. We're all getting brown cards, which means two boring to be on the field. Okay. So this movie ends with a little with those interview segments we mentioned

before, the old man saying he thinks sharks are terrible. And that you should punch him in the eye. And then at that point, I was so drained by this movie. I get felt like I had spent all that time lying in a raft staring at the sun. And it was like movie. This should be an exciting story or a suspenseful story of thrilling. Like how can how it maybe something's are just only cut out to be monologues Maybe they don't need to be movies, you know Maybe not everything's a spault in gray where it can be a monologue that gets turned into a movie I mean I I mean Maybe it's a vagina monologue which is a monologue. I don't want to play Monday morning quarterback here

But I think there's probably a way that you could have made a exciting story, movie out of this story. I don't know, tell me a way to make an exciting story. It's an exciting movie out of a story about a ship that gets blown up and then sharks eat everybody. That doesn't sound exciting to me. A ship delivering the atomic bomb that gets blown up possibly with torpedoes featuring dudes driving them.

Mm-hmm. And then sharks are involved. That's crazy. I guess what I would do is, I was about to say, I would make it so that they get attacked on their way to delivering the top on, instead of coming back, except then what? You can't make a movie where the ship

carried the autonomous sinks because that didn't happen. Yeah. Much the same way that one of my big issues with X-Men in first class is that, the implications that the Cuban Missile Crisis took place because of mutants, which doesn't square with the historical record. And are you the number one?

There are no mutants and yet we did have a Cuban missile crisis. But that's the problem with any time they put like magical heroes in different time periods, like the idea that the most recent Transformers movie features Transformers through the ages and you're like, so I guess Transformers aren't good enough to stop the fucking hall cost. I mean, to be fair from the Transformers point of view, why would they care? All they all they want to do is turn into different types of cars. Why do they care what happens?

I mean, I think you're missing some fundamental elements of the Transformers movies and how the Autobots kind of help work with humanity. Don't say it because now Michael Bayes is going to make a world where two and where the Deceptic of help and work with you, Mali. Don't say it, because now Michael Bay's just gonna make a World War II and where the Decepticons are helping the Nazis. But I think the new Transformers movie features footage of that type of shit. Oh, really? Yeah, because it starts with them like fighting

in the fucking King Arthur times. Yeah, I haven't seen the new Transformers movie, but how do they justify the fact that no one has been like, oh, there's been giant robots forever. It turned into cars. Yeah, a, there's been giant robots forever. That turn into cars. Yeah, a thing that we don't have yet. Like, it's one of those things where... That's just a bridge too far.

I can accept that there are transforming car aliens in the modern day. Well, if you ask me, it's just one of those things where it's like, if you asked me to believe that they've existed about history, I have to believe that one, the story would have gotten out by this point, or two, it would have changed history and some, the idea that like, hmm, like you're saying.

Maybe it did. Like you're saying, you know what, wouldn't change history, giant transforming robots with laser beams that have been here for a thousand years? Like, come on. Well, are they transforming into before, or dinosaur, or a giant station? But after a while, people would be like, come on. Well, are they transforming into before... Well, dinosaurs are in the age of extinction. But after a while, people would be like, that's a fucking dinosaur.

Yeah. And that's a dinosaur robot. Oh, yeah. Are you turning into like castles? Yeah, that is kind of weird that the dino bots still look like robots and not dinosaurs, right? Well, there's only so... I mean, dinosaurs aren't made of metal. That's the big thing.

You can turn into a car and look at cars cars made in a metal. I mean, couldn't they have like a paint job that looks like dinosaur scales? Maybe they just buy a latex suit with scales on it. I've seen some air brushing on the side of it. I've seen some pretty convincing auto wraps. They get one of those guys just there like Trump, Lloyd chalk drawings that look like they're 3D and photographs and have him draw on them. Yeah, I want to come on transformers. Or here's what you do. Every year, sports illustrated hires airbrush painters to paint bikinis on to naked women.

So they can put them in magazines. Just do that on the transformers, paint up a bunch of bikinis on them and they look like real bikinis. That'll be the disguise that I need to move freely among that bikini girls. I'm just a lady. And then some guy will be like, hubba hubba, he's arranging his bow tie. I'm gonna hit on this chick and he doesn't seem to notice that she's 30 feet tall in a row of them. Guys, I had a real problem. I might date last night.

What happened? You take her out in your car. Guys, she was the car. Basically, the hotel was from some like it hot, but he's dating a transformer. In every movie, there's always the one guy who can't tell that the woman is obviously a man or a Gremlin or an animal or a robot. I don't like the idea that you're inferring that

Robert Picardos cared. Yeah, okay, I'm flying the Robert Picardos character doesn't realize the lady Gremlin is a fucking Gremlin. I think that's part of it for him. Okay, fair point. Yeah, fair point. And I get it, dude. He's like, see the power in those paws? Oh, well, she's got amazing calves. Frank is cranky. Like the calves and the calves and that lady, Gremlin. We have to imagine that he's like, at the end when he's like, well, and he gives into her, but he's also like,

well, I'm gonna be the first to something. I really was the, I gotta believe, I gotta believe Hoyt-Axton didn't fuck a Gremlin. I really was the nobody's perfect with the modern era, the ending of that. Him acquiescing to having sex with a Gremlin. What's the drugging is?

The Lady Gremlin came predatory towards him. Yeah, smooching all the way. And then it writes the end on the screen. What a great movie. Oh God, that's awesome. I'm just gonna say it Here's my hot take guys. Grandma's too is everything some like it hot is not Billy Wilder. I love you, but go take a lesson from Joe Don say So anyway, USS Indianapolis made a courage. We should do the final judgments on this movie whether it was a good bad bad movie, a bad bad movie, or a movie we kind of liked.

I'm going to go first. I'm going to say that if this movie had been 90 minutes long, it might have been a good bad movie because there was so much like crazy CGI. We cannot overstate how cheap this movie looks. It looks so super cheap. And not in a, not in the, there's like, the kind of cheap where it's like primer, and it's like, I'm impressed they were able to make this

for like $8,000. You know, like, oh Peter Jackson made all those masks in his mom's oven. That's why their heads look weird. Yeah, exactly. But then there's the cheap where it's like, you guys had the money to do better. You didn't need to show us every single ship in CGI. Just put a model in a bathtub and it would look better than this.

But then you were saying. No, I just, yeah, that's all I wanted to say about it. It moves so slowly. The middle section is just people in the water. Then they get killed in the water. then they're in the water some more, then someone gets pulled out of a raft, you know, it's just over and over again, shark deaths, and that might be true to life, it may actually give us a sense of how grueling it must have been to be one of those men out in the water, but it does not make for a compelling film

to just sort of repeat the same thing over and over again. So I would say it's a bad, bad movie. It's, I would say bad, bad. It's so slow and so dull. I would say if someone wants to cut together like a YouTube video that's just the CGI scenes, go ahead and watch it. But otherwise like we're never made to care about any of the characters. They're all super one-dimensional, cartoony, even.

And movies are so slow and so bogged down. And by the time it gets to the court, Marshall scenes, you're like, movie over, movie, be over, movie, movie, be over, shut down, stop it, movie, stop it, stop it. We know you're doing it, movie. Now, stop it. That's a general rule it movie, now stop it. That's a John Oliver as well. So I call bad bad movie. So, you know, first off, I don't think I'm speaking for my co-host here, but I want to say the events depicting this movie were a tragedy and we would think everybody involved their

service. Yeah, you're right, you don't speak for me. Still are trying to get in the extra credit points. But no, this is a bad, bad movie. It's grueling, but I think there's a way to make a grueling experience meaningful by making you actually care about the people involved before it begins to happen. Yeah, it's just and the idea of showing the entire story by including the court martial sequence, I don't feel necessarily adds anything to the story. No, I agree. It, unless you're going to shorten everything else before it.

And, but it's, it like, it hurts because, it's disappointing partly because like, there is a really good movie that's just people in a boat in open water for the whole movie and that's lifeboat. And it's like, oh, I mean, dead calm. Maybe, I guess, yeah, too. It's, or knife in the water is just people in a boat. But that lifeboat is so close to this.

And I guess this is hardly an insult to Merrill Van Peebles to say that he is not Alfred Hitchcock when it comes to directing and it's it's trouble to ask anyone to live up to Hitchcock standard but it's like if you feel like watching this just go watch Lifeboat and pretend that the lead guy is Nicholas Cage. Hello, Amita Patel. Hello, Sean David Johnson. What's going on? I think a friend of mine may have chronic pop culture deficiencies in Rome.

Oh no, PCDS. What are the symptoms? Well she doesn't know Wakanda from Westeros. Shameful. And she keeps confusing Aziz Ansari and Rizamid. Oh my gosh, so sad. Kind of racist too, but what did you tell her to do? I told her to listen to our podcast, Inside Pop, of course.

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Create a beautiful website with Squarespace's award-, templates, and all in one platform. There's nothing to ever install, patch, or upgrade. Wait, Dan, hold on a second. So you're saying, I don't have to like download a bunch of weird programs that I don't really understand, and then download new programs to fix the bugs in those programs, and then download some other thing, and it turns out it's Russian malware, and now I have to zombie computer. The thing is, Elliot, each program you download makes you smarter and smarter like Job from long-mo or man

But my head can only hold so much like Johnny Namanik from Johnny Namanik. So what what should we do Dan? I don't think our website without downloading all that stuff look flowers for our Janon. You'll be fine Okay, you're rank and say the normal size. Oh, goodness You know, he was Charlie You'll be fine. Okay, you rank and stay the normal size. Oh, thank goodness. His name was Charlie. Yeah, I know his name was Charlie. I'm just, the mouse was named Charlie. Mouse was named Alternon. Then, because he was named after Alternon Blackwood.

Oh, okay. The weird fiction author. So, it's a square space, Dan. Yeah, it's a little topic. Because, Dan, you know what? It's a little while since I talked about one of my website. All right. But there's a, there's a website that we talked about something earlier that really reminded me of it.

And I don't want to, you know what? I don't want to take time away from Squarespace. But one of the, if they could help me actually is I've been, there's a website I've been talking about, thinking about a lot. I've got some investors lined up and it's called numanus.org. It's the only website where you can, it's your place on the web for numanuses, you know, where it's like you've got ice in your butt maybe, or maybe you're full of novocaine in your butt. I don't know. We're going to find out when we flesh it out on the site. There's going to be videos, there's going to be quizzes, there's going to be like

tips and tricks from the pros and so not for profit. Not at all for profit. This is a public service in a very, very underserved demographic. Those who have a need for information, tips, tricks, hints, videos, vlogging and insight about numbing. It says, so do you think that they could help me with www.numaynist.org? You know, as much as they may not like to, they could definitely help you think that they could help me with www.nomayna.org? Yeah, Dan. As much as they may not like to, they could definitely help you do that.

Now, I want people to be able to look at this on their phones, like if they're on a train. I mean, that's the only time I ever look at nominuses. Like, I don't want people to be stuck looking at on their house. I want it to be looked at in public places too. It's 21st century, dude. Does it scale to mobile devices? It scales to all kinds of devices. Your iPhone, your iPad, dude. Does it scale to mobile devices? It scales to all kinds of devices. Your iPhone, your iPad, your Switch from your phone to your iPad. All the time.

But like, do I need to know how to code? I don't know how to code. I just know that there's a lot of people there need help numbing their butts. You don't need to know how to code at all. Squarespace has beautiful templates that help you no matter your experience level. Very low in my case. Is there 24-7 tech support? There is, in fact, 24-7 customer support. So let's run through a scenario.

Okay. So you need to code to numb your code. I mean, it's numb-chode would be a different site. Now, Dan, let's run through a little scenario. So you'll be tech-supported Squarespace. High tech support. This is Elliott. I have a question. Hello, Elliott. Now, I am having trouble with the template for my website, www.numainus.org, your place online for numbing anuses and butts that can't feel things. That sounds like a service that many people would enjoy. Thank you for being non-judgmental about that Squarespace.

You can help me with my problem. I will help you right away, sir. Wow, that was great. That was a wonderful experience. Thank you, Squarespace. Thank you, Ali D'Kalen, owner of Numaynuses.org. Well, it's numaynuses.org. It was a numaynuses.

I better register them both. So Dan, what else about Squarespace? For free trial and 10% off your first purchase, visit squarespace.com slash flop. But we're also sponsored in part tonight by Casper, an online retailer premium mattresses for a fraction of the price. Casper mattresses features supportive memory foam for a sleep surface that's got just the right sink and just the right bounce risk-free

Oh, sorry pardon me risk-free trial and return policy For Casper mattresses try sleeping on a Casper for 10. Yeah Get that get that mattress. I'll be sleep on it for a while. I'll send it back. I'm sleeping on a Casper map I'm in talk from the heart about your sleeping look sleeping. Look, I love the cast for mattress. I sleep on one every night. What does it feel like to describe a painless award picture about the texture of the work? Well, it's got just the right sink and just the right bounce.

I know that about it. Hey, that doesn't really see if you like, it came from your heart. Come on, when you line, okay, let's paint a word picture. Okay. Dan has just gotten home from work. Yep. And he eats dinner. Yeah, I'm so tired. Dan has just gotten home from work. Yep. And he eats dinner.

I'm so tired. Slip on that sleep, Batman, I ask. Just goes to his Tivo, plays whatever porn he's recorded. Not too much of a big, just a critique for his website. So your sleep, Batman, reaches the couch. The what? His sleep, Batman, I ask reaches the couch. Yeah.

Yeah. He's watching the porn to sleep at a mass. And he says, you know what? I don't sleep in the couch tonight. I want to sleep on a mattress because it's super comfortable. And you wheel what I assume is a very cumbersome sleep apnea mechanism into your room. The size of like an eniac computer. Yup.

You actually have a very sweet little machine. You shoe RTO for the bed. You stand, and you finally, you sit down on that Casper mattress and then you lay down and what does it feel like? Talk about the relief that you have. Are you a back sleeper or a tummy sleeper? Outside. I'm a back sleeper most of the time,

a side sleeper, like 25% of the time. So you're that 25% would you consider yourself to be like a little spoon or a big spoon? Uh, I would consider myself to be a big spoon. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, like a ladle? Like, uh, yeah, some sort of, uh, ladle or a serving spoon per act. Like a wooden spoon you can spank someone with or you can someone can bite down so they don't just swallow their own tongue. Sure, certainly the first one.

Okay, a ladle. Okay, so Dan ladle, he lies down and he's like, ah, Casper mattress, thank you for providing comfort and support at a very low price. Yeah, yeah, you'd say, wow, I'm dreaming. You might be like, wow, a Casper mattress. This is so great. Wow. Yeah, the disappointment in the face that he likes it, Wow, a cash for mattress. This is so great. Wow. Yeah, the disappointment in the face that he likes it, LA, it's amazing.

It's like, so much disdain. Listeners, you can't imagine the disdain in dance space. It's like, the fact that Elliot was able to finish the joke. Have you ever seen in a cartoid comic where someone is staring literal daggers at someone? It was like, he didn't even want to he didn't even so just day and full He didn't want even want to use the energy to hurl daggers that size that me But I could feel them all right cast mattress so cast from mattresses. Is there a co product code?

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We're up. One go. I'm going to jump onto this one. Thanks for giving me another shot after the last week's message. This message is for KC. The message is from early on the mat and the preferred time frame is next available. Yeah, you just specify that but go on. Happy birthday, Casey. You are so talented, creative and funny. I feel really lucky to have you in my life and look forward to many more years together from your sort of romantic boyfriend,

crazy smiley face. Nate. That's very sweet. Yeah. I've got another sweet one. This message is from Rosie B and Chris C. They both, it's just their first initials so I assume they're spice girls. And the message is for Rosie B and Chris C and the message is from Charlene the Blade of Honor. And Charlene says, congrats on your upcoming nuptials. Rosie's butt will soon be heavily desired by Dan.

I hope you both like this message read by your favorite podcast hosts, because I'm not getting you an actual wedding present. I love you both, and I think I speak for everyone when I say, don't get a divorce. They're expensive and sad. Love you guys. Yay. Two very nice messages.

Yeah, congratulations, Rosie being Christian. They even pulled Dan in with that message. I like that. Because Dan loves wife butts. Now you're part of their narrative. DL Cool WB. Yep. That's your rap name.

But now it's time. Wait, Dan, we've got some things that we're all running out of. Oh yeah, you gotta plug some things. We've got some things that we're all into plugs. So, we lay that because it's not time for singing yet. Just want to remind our Plophouse listeners of some special things we got coming up.

For instance, we're going to be part of the Philly Podcast in beautiful Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Just spit out your cheese steak and rush over to the Troke Deiro Theater and get live. Or go to PhillyPodfest.com where you can buy tickets. It's going to be Sunday, July 16th, same day as my Ants birthday party. So yes, I will be rushing from my Ants birthday party to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to be there. And I'll be worried the whole time

about whether he'll be there in time. And we will race against the clock a real nick of time, Starring Johnny Depp. And the whole time I'll be hoping that we can just have Sydney, McRoy, sit in for early. Anyway, the show is at eight o'clock, doors are at 7.30, tickets I believe are eight o'clock, doors are at seven thirty tickets.

I believe are still available. So go to fillypodfest.com or just I guess Google the flop house Philadelphia podcast festival. Uh-huh. And we're going to be that show, I think. I think it's time to hold Dan's feet to the fire. What fucking movie are we going to talk about that movie? Uh, I believe we decided on watching the Great Wall. What's so great about it?

Great Wall. The Great Wall starring Matthew Demon. What? And an international cast of stars. That's right, the movie The Great Wall, a US, a China co-production, and I'm very curious about it. We're gonna be talking about that one.

We're gonna be having fun. We've never done a Philadelphia show before. No, we've never done it. And this is like literally weeks before we mail Elliott off to Abu Dhabi. Is that how it's gonna happen? Yeah, right? Yeah, it's gonna be, is that, no, I think it's gonna be one of the last things we've recorded together in person for a little bit.

Yeah, and it's two weeks before you moved to LA. It's a historic moment both from the's gonna be one of the last things we recorded together in person for a little bit. Yeah, and it's two weeks before you moved out. It's a historic moment, both for me and the mayor. We keep talking, we keep bringing up on the show, but it just makes us sad, that's all. Yeah. So if you're in Philadelphia or you're nearby, you wanna see us live recording an episode,

go to philippodfest.com and buy your tickets. That's July 16th, a Sunday. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that weekend. Yeah, it should be fun. Also, also, a lot of people of you have gotten these already, but maybe a lot of you haven't, and I think you're gonna like them. The Flop House Funnies comic book series.

Yeah. It's available at flophousepodcast.com slash comics. And there's three short stories out now. We each wrote one, the theme was horror. And all proceeds go to the American Civil Liberties Union Which we need now more than ever. Yeah, those things aren't so good right now They're kind of I think in a way they're kind of are like take on a Tales from the Crypt style anthology comic yes, and it's I it's as a non creative, it's an exciting opportunity to get to do some

storytelling in a medium that I love. And where we have three stories out now and because of the support we've already received, we're already planning three more stories on another theme on another scene that are already shaping up to be pretty great. Yeah, and so if you haven't bought the issues Please do you can donate anywhere from a dollar to infinite monies and that money goes to protecting our civil liberties and You get three very different stories that are all spookily good good And that's all the that's all the flop house promotional stuff I believe that we have. Well, that means that it's time for letters from listeners listeners like you.

Yes, that's right. Listeners like you and the first letter. What's a listener like you like? I have to assume you're a person of some talent charisma looks and attraction guy up someone who has the whole world on a string somebody wraps the world around their finger it's you so write us a letter a listener is someone who has a big heart has a big brain maybe big thumbs but that's not your problem just because it makes it hard to dial your iPhone, because your thumbs are so big,

you're hitting all the buttons. Doesn't mean you have to stop from writing us a letter, a listener like you can get around the fact that they have such big thumbs shouldn't be something that causes you trouble. Get out that big thumb, make your ain't a snum, write us a letter from a listener, like you. All right. Oh wow. I was able to tie in my new website. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good.

sending himself a text message. Yeah. It says erase this episode. Is it note to self, go back in time, kill Elliott's grandparents. Oh wow. This first message is from Derek Glass, name withheld. I can't stop fucking saying, oh wow, what a way. Let's get to your system. We're gonna have to go to a doctorate. It's a real earworm.

Oh wow, we put a worm in my ear, wow, con, wow. Derek Glass, name withheld, writes, with all the notable celebrity decks. Derek? Yeah, Derek. Yeah, like a royal Derek. With all the notable. The Derek Jagabee. Yeah, or Derek. You think it's Derek Jagabee? But it'd be Derek Jagabee. It's probably Derek Jagabee. Okay. Just read the letter. Is it Derek Cherino who I went to elementary school with?

Name dropper. Mm-hmm. With all mhm with all the with all the notable celebrity deaths in 2016 a friend of mine proposed drafting a list of celebrities that we would be most upset about dying after around a forgettable pics we quickly started taking people whose deaths would most directly affect our day-to-day lives rather than people we had a fondness for because we're selfish dicks notably we chose people with unfinished work who would leave us feeling unfulfilled if they shuffled off anytime soon. I took George R. Martin in the third round,

but I feel like I made a major steal in the fifth round when I selected one Elliot Kalin. My friend. I mean, I compliment, flattered kind of, that also horrible. I feel so bad because then Dan would have to marry Daniel and there would be the weirdest celebrity couple ever. Yeah, there's celebrity name would just be Danielle, which is just my wife's name.

Yeah. And, I mean, I would eventually accept you as a stepdad. Yeah. Maybe a little rough at first, but I think you're shared love of muppets and also, you can, you can bake. I think so. I think you would accept me as a stepdad much faster than Daniel would have sent me as a husband. I think that's very fair I think both of them would probably be put off by your let's say reduced amount of body here

It is it is true and this might be getting a little too personal that my son likes to comment on the amount of fur that I have And asked about if he's going to get fur and he just likes to comment on the amount of fur that I have. Shhh. And asks about if he's going to get fur and he just likes to edit sometimes. Like when I'm reading him a book before bed, he'll just, before he goes to bed, not me, he doesn't tuck me in. When I'm reading him a book before bed, because sometimes it's just kind of being my arms,

just kind of like, just kind of heading the hair on my arms, it's very sweet. Anyway, his dad is a friendly bear. It's like you just gave me a gift, Elliot. Derek continues. Anyway, what celebrities death with most greatly upset you if it happened in 2017? Also, do you have any plans to live show in Boston anytime soon? We'd love to see it. ROCK and the USA sincerely Derek last name withheld. Not sure if we can do a Boston show, I'm worried that the bean- bean town bad boy and

his brother the bad boy would come be us up. Wait, which one is the bean town bad boy? Casey? Casey have like, yeah, there's the bean town bad boy in the bean town bad boy. Yeah. Okay. Cause he's a bad man. I don't think I'm surprised I have to explain this.

No, no, I just wanted to show which one was the bad boy. Well, if, I mean, apparently Elliot which one was the bad boy. Well, if I mean apparently Ali at Kaelin is a celebrity in this scenario, so I would be the saddest heat time. It would be the one that I would choose to be saddest if he passed away. I appreciate it. Thank you for listening. It's a lovely letter, but this game is fucked up. Yeah, I would say, I was thinking about this, and it was like, all of them, any of them, like I don't like it when people die, like I don't want them to die.

Sure, clearly there are people that I know personally that I'd be very upset about, but it's not like, I never hear this celebrity is dying, and I'm like, good. Like maybe when Bill Cosby passes, it'd be more out of like the world is safer now. Like I don't, it's hard for me to think of a celebrity death right?

I'm just totally positive in favor. Yeah. I mean, fair enough. I think I mean, I think there's a lot of young celebrities that would be I guess more tragic. Oh, certainly if like Dakota fanning died, that would be very tragic. And I would be super sad.

Although not surprising like Weird Al passed away because I know he's like a super big drug addict. Wait, what? Right? Isn't he like a super big hero in head? I don't believe so. That's what they call him right now. But definitely, if like when Jimmy Stewart died, I remember being very upset, but like he

was an old man. Apparently there's something more tragic more tragic 20 younger star passes. Well, but it's still always sad when someone dies. Yeah, when I was thinking about this, but to play along with the very sick game for a moment. Okay, sure. When I was thinking about this, like immediately, like I sprung to people who were like important to me,

like your David Burns or your Bill Murray's, but then I also like under the rubric that he like put out of like people who feel like they've got a lot of unfinished work to do in the world and like I would be upset because of that. I think that someone like the Cohen brothers, if they, if like one of them passed on. And I'll be missing out on like years of work

that they could do. The other thing I think about when this reminds me of is that like, I don't like seeing people die, but there are people that I want to outlive because they're older than me. Like when Bill Murray dies or someone like that, it'll make me sad because it's like, oh, I love a lot of his work. But at the same time, like, he's much older than me. If I don't live to see Bill Murray die, I've died.

Like a bus hit me or maybe an asteroid fell out of the sky But at the same time, he's much older than me. If I don't live to see Bill Murray die, I've died young. Like a bus hit me, or maybe an asteroid fell out of the sky and smushed me. Like, as much as I don't want to see these people die, I want to live to see them die. Not out of indicateness, just because I got a lot more living left to do, dude. You're able to really approach your emotions intellectually.

I have to. You're a pretty cool white dude on the internet. Oh, come on. Yeah. I mean. No, but I guess I'm with you. I mean, like, you can rationalize a lot of different things. And I think that like, I think thinking about like missing a celebrity because of their

effect on your life, i.e. They're not able to make things you like is kind of weird, no offense, Dan. I don't know if it's like I can... I mean, I'm just going off of what this... Dan's playing within the rules. I'm playing within the rules, or is that... You and me have decided to not play by the rules. Dan's playing by the rules.

We're going all Kobyashi Maru and requesting the basis situation. We're the rules manual apart and we say we're using these pieces how we want. Probably the most. I'm gonna pour alcohol in the thimble and drink it and then spend the monopoly money wherever I want. But it's like, there's also, it's a, Dan you and I are in a weird case. In that we have worked with a number of well-known people.

And so there are people that we have like personal relationships with. Yeah. And so it would be, it's like, does that person enter into it because these are people that we have like personal relationships with. Yeah. And so it would be, it's like does that person enter into it? Because these are people that I consider friends. Like I would say that I would say you would remove them. Okay, these are, in for this game, this most dangerous game, some might say,

because you might hurt someone's feelings. It's only people who you admire from afar. Yes. Okay. Yeah, I mean for actors, it would be like, I don't know, like, you're like Ian McKellen's and stuff, like people that in addition to making work I admire, just in general, they seem to bring joy into the world.

And they're also, in the age bracket, that I guess they could pass away, and wouldn't be you wouldn't be shocked totally shocked just to be sad. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Like Ian McElland and Patrick Stewart God that would be horrible. Yeah, but at the same time Stewart, I want you to live to see them die because they're much older than you. Thank you. I would much rather they pass before you than vice versa. you. Thank you. I would much rather they pass before you than vice versa. The same way that like I know it like I mean, I think the idea is if they pass away this year, I think it's part of the thing. Yeah, yeah, but I whatever that's the come on. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to live through the year, right? That's the it. Well, then I even more want them to die before you. There's like that would be hard to be horrifically traumatizing to me.

If I was like you died next year, but Ian McCallum was still walking the earth jogging around. He's bringing joy, but it's like, come on, dude, that life belonged to Stuart. Yeah. Why do you have to hit Stuart with your car? Well, how come when that one kidney was available, Ian McCallum, and you just grabbed it right out the box and even let Stuart get a chance? All right. this has gotten even weirder than I anticipated. So let's move on. Wait, Ian McKellen and Stewart grappling over the one last, last kidney for their transplant.

True dual. This one is I apologize. I lost the name of whoever wrote this end. So sorry. I guess let's just assume it's Ian McKinney. Ian McKinney. Ian last name withheld. Dear floppers, I love your show. Please don't talk about me dying. Yeah. That kidney is mine. Yeah, the end.

The dog gone kidney is mine. It changes that song a lot of time. Are you going over the last transplant organ? Mm-hmm. This email goes like this. You guys mentioned Constantine in the Mother's Day app, and I was reminded of Peter Stormair's wacky Lucifer in that movie.

It was great. I went on thinking and realized there's kind of a bunch of middle-aged famous actors who have played the devil in recent bad movies. I'm thinking Peter Fonda and Ghost Rider, Al Pacino in the devil's advocate, and Will Smith in Winter's Tale. Why is this? Is there an idea that playing literal Satan is a meaty role

or is it an excuse to put in a totally campy performance? Alternatively, which current leading men can you see playing the devil 10 to 20 years from now? My money is on a super weird, super middle-aged Ryan Gosling. Love the show. Thanks for making me laugh. Awkwardly around strangers in my laundry mat. Uh.

Laundry mat? Laundromat. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's the word. So other ones you mentioned before, like I like the Peter Fonda performance in the Al Pacino performance are great. Will Smith, I think, is a good performance, but there's just like, and I know I think we praise it at the time. I think it's an interesting choice. But I don't think Will Smith, though he has charisma in spades, does not have the like darkness kind of. He plays a devil who, it's hard to believe that devil being evil.

If anything, he just seems like kind of an amoral wizard. I just realized though, said in spades, and that's totally fucking, God damn it. I was hoping not to call attention to it. No, call attention to it. It's a stupid choice. I don't make you feel bad. No, I should feel bad off the tummy. So Stuart inadvertently used a racist word But he didn't mean to So Dan you'll add to that out right Yeah, it's okay. You don't have to anyway. I'll fucking take my laughs

Yeah, it's okay. You don't have to anyway. I'll fucking take my loves So but Stuart meant well everybody come on. He didn't know what he was doing. He's just a kid look at him You know, I'm blaster from And I'm master just riding around on his back telling him what to do That was a master that was a blaster impression that's to it was doing. So I was thinking about it and I didn't actually, I'm gonna pull back the curtain for a second and say that Dan sent some of these questions to us ahead of time, but didn't specify that we were talking about an act. For some reason I got the impression from the letter that it was male,

for some reason I got the impression from the letter that it was mail, but from your question, I thought Aubrey Plaza would be a really great devil. I mean, it's kind of what she played in Legion. Yeah, spoiler alert, but she's great in that. Yeah, she's fantastic on it. And I think she's got both like the kind of darkness and the charisma. I can see that very clearly. And the uniqueness and talent. I think she would play very much the kind in what?

Christmas uniqueness, nerve and talent. Those are the four qualities that America's next drag Superstar needs to have. Oh, I see. I didn't realize that. I was thinking, so she would make a great devil, and she'd make a great charismatic devil. Now, here's something.

We see a lot of devils that are like super swive or super hammy or like they're like cool or stochastic or whatever. Here's what I'd like to see in about 20 years. Child above. I'd like to see him playing kind of like, playing kind of like a drained, seen at all, like exhausted devil, like not in a funny way, but in the way of like, the devil does not take joy in the suffering of others, but it's the role he's gotta play. And so he's driving people to their doom,

he's a bad guy, but he's not like, hehehe, oh, somebody stopped me, which I realized now is the mask, not the devil, but it's like a... Same thing, Ellie, what do you think of the devil? Do you just think of the mask? I mean, if I met the mask, I'd be like, you're the devil, but it's like a... Same thing. Ellie, when you think of the devil, do you just think of the mask? I mean, if I met the mask, I'd be like, you're the devil, aren't you?

Like, you seem like you have... You were in a goddamn zoo, seemed like a cherry-pop and dandy. Anyway, there's nothing more devilish than that. But the idea of like a, there's a moment in the mega-death song, Prince of Darkness, where he has this intro at the beginning where he's like, I'm the more powerful

than all the armies of the world, I'm so evil, that's how he goes, and he goes, and he sounds so tired in that moment. Like the devil has to put up this huge front. He is the most evil person in the universe, but like, he is tired of it. He's been doing it for thousands of years. That's the Shilobuf devil I want to see someday.

Is like exhausted, still evil. He's still doing bad stuff, but there's no join at form. He's just kind of like always got stubble and like kind of gone to seed and like is not, he's not an attractive figure, you know. That evil is unattractive, you know. I know it's gonna be hard for Charlotte to play unattractive because he's a hunk.

I have two answers. One is a young person and one is someone that I'm surprised, hasn't played the devil already. The Bill Zabub. Yeah. Because that's certainly a devil name right there. I think that's a guy who directs like low budget harm. I'm sure he does. I think it'd be guy who directs like low budget harmers. I'm sure he does.

I think it'd be fun to see James Franco as sort of a sleepy sort of a stone to devil. Okay. Like a forgetful devil. A flybottle devil. He isn't done, he isn't played the devil before. No, that's kind of weird. I think it'd be fun. And then.

I mean, he'd kind of play the devil when he co-hosted the Oscars. Anyway. He did play the devil. He just like didn't give a shit, didn't do his job. So weird, right? If they didn't answer the beginning, hosted by Anne Hathaway and James Franco as the devil, I think people would like, this makes sense. Okay, great.

And he did all the exact same things. And then the older actor that I'm surprised hasn't played the devil yet is Gary Oldman. Oh, yeah, I could see that I think he would be a good devil He's played devilish characters before no, I'm thinking of Vigo Mournson. Yeah, yeah I mean, Vigo Mournson could do it too. I guess I'm saying he hasn't played Vigo Mournson He played Vigo Mournson in that one movie Carrie Oldman plays Vigo Mourordson in the making of Eastern promises. This letter is from Kenneth Flasdan withheld. Anger.

Who writes the frequency. Guys, everyone has to move with the frequency is, but I don't know. Can you tell me? My question is simple. Someday, I would like to be the life of at least one party. There are many other possibly more party-oriented podcasts I could express this motivation to. But as you three are my only imaginary friends and sometimes I talk back to the podcast and pretend I'm part of the conversation, I thought I asked you the simple question.

Like this episode, just keep yelling, be better, be a better podcast. Or just keep going, oh wow. The party oh wow. The party wow. What would make me faded to play the part of bockist and whatever party celebration festival or FET the norms of the norms have chosen my favor. Is it good looks? Don't talk about the norms in front of people. Yeah, that's one way to not pluck your party strings. Is it good looks? Accentuated by a bow tie that spins when I pull a string. Is it an amusing trick played on my comrades using a plastic artifact,

which resembles a facial wound or possibly a chemical spill on the woodwork? What I need to wear is text speedo for maximum effect. If, for a chance, this question stumps the panel of magnificent dude meat, may have the flop house house cat might weigh in on on this heart-publicating whisked of mine. Flopselcer, Kenneth last name withheld, post script. I would like to know what if anything lies under the carpet and the radio to Zork dungeon, it hasn't been yet examined. Wait, wait, carpet.

The bug is this. Outside of house looking at a door, dude. You don't have the door mat. I think you might be talking about the semi-canonical future sequence we were talking about. Oh, okay. I forgot about that. Getting the door, dude.

Then we can talk about what's under the carpet. So are we... And whether that carpet matches, said, Zorick drapes. Ooh, we're helping him... To the life of a party. Okay, so... It's true, you're the life of a party. Yeah, so. You're the life of a party. Yeah, I can tell a lot of jokes here guys.

You know, I'm full of them. I got a whole joke. That was in one party, too. Sorry, Stuart. I would say don't be afraid to look like a moron. So don't be afraid to look silly. And make a point to ask people questions and practice active listening. I think those are like, be able to do a little bit of small talk and be somewhat interesting

and also not taking yourself too seriously, I think, our tricks. And you made a good point and to be interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like actually make other people feel of value is super important. make other people feel of value is super important. I don't want to talk to you. I suggest a trick called WD&D, which is what would Dan not do? This is good advice. Yeah. Coming from a man who, Elliot, he came to my birthday party and said, how is it that you're

sitting alone at your own birthday party? Well, because Dan, here's the thing. When you throw a birthday party, you know, kind of mingle and say, hi to everybody. They're your friends. Dan had a very big turnout for own birthday party. Well, because Dan, here's the thing, when you throw a birthday party, you know, kind of mingle and say, hi to everybody, they're your friends. Dan had a very big turnout for his birthday party. And yet, like, like, he's, you would think that he was like a dying old man.

And then he expected everyone to just come to him and bow at his feet and deliver him presents of gold in the heart of rank of stations. Like a fucking sultan of the East. Eventually, I got up for my ass. Yeah, no, it's true. Eventually I got up for my seat and mingle around. How did your friend Stefan giving you a, it was Stefan. Yeah. Stefan are our buddy who went to school with us gave, gave you a, what a, a pinnata, a pinnata of you. Well, the character he used to do. Yes. Yeah, it was so it was so

different than actual day. But he gave you a pinnata of you. How did that affect your approach toward the party? It made me creeped out and off but okay. So also what would Stefan not do? Yeah, don't give the host of the party a pinata that looks sort of like them, but also looks like kind of a ghost of them, like a featureless horrified simolecra of them. So when you're making it open to get the sweet candy inside, it's like you're fighting your own soul to get candy of all things, a scathing acting out of the creative fight I assume you have with yourself all

the time about selling out and doing a big TV show instead of following your dream of writing movies where women wear bikinis and their tops come off. Yeah it's weird because instead of candy on the inside it was filled with packets of mayonnaise and thumbtacks. That sounds terrible. Here's my advice. You want to know how to be the life of the party? Don't worry about being the life of the party. Just go to the party and have fun, dude.

Yeah, put the blast shield down, dude. Like who cares if you're popular or if people talking about you after words? If you're having a good time, if you're talking to people and interacting and just like enjoying yourself and helping to raise the level of fun just by being there and being fun, that's all you got to do at a party. Yeah, and then make sure you leave by 9 so you can get a nice meal and get a bunch of z's. Yeah, yeah.

But as easy as you mean Zav, I would you mean pizza, right? Yeah, yeah. Because you're an individual. Yeah, get a bunch of z's. And it took me a long time to realize like, oh, if I'm going somewhere and I want to be comfortable and interactive people, then I should just like be myself and interact with people. And then I'll have a good time.

Elliot also practices the leave and want more strategy where he leaves early every time. Stewart does the stays there until the last drop strategy. Yeah. I mean, wait, you guys are done. What's going on? Let's keep drinking. I mean, the thing is, I leave early, but it takes me about an hour to say goodbye to everybody. So I have to start my goodbyes even earlier than when I actually weird. Yeah. For some reason, it takes you a long time to say something.

Cut me to the quick. I'm, you know, you might surprise listeners to learn that I'm also a stay there till the last moment party go or myself though. Maybe you mean stay in the one seat and not move. Yeah, one last letter quickly. I've been listening to a lot of back episode. This is from Kate last name with help. Hey Kate.

I've been listening to a lot of back episodes of the flop house lately. So it's no surprise that I finally had a strange and slightly sexual maybe flop house stream. Here it is. I was sunbathing at Alki Beach in Wild West Seattle. And Dan McCoy walked up to me and asked if he could lay down and use my butt as a pillow while he worked on his tan. I let him use my butt as a pillow. That was the whole dream. Anyway, I love your podcast. Keep on flopping, Kate. Dan's Casper is getting a workout tonight, boy. Elliott is looking at his face like, why did we go to this letter? No, no, I understand why we went to the letter. Yeah. But that was not in any way a mystery. It's like the end of a season of Fargo where you're like, this resolution

isn't a huge surprise. So I'm not shocked, but I'm just disappointed we got here. No, that sounds actually like a very nice dream. It seems like a, like I liked it because it was sort of a sweet dream. Yeah, sweet. A very nice a ride. There's something very nice about it. There's a kindness to the eroticism that brings to mind late night showtime movie viewings. Yeah. But like the ones that are like comedies, not the ones that are like thrillers. Yeah, like when the guy gets shrunken down these and the ladies underpants. Do you never watch that movie?

No, I know. I know a movie you're talking about. It was a USA Apple line mainstay. Yeah. There was a scene where he's like climbing around on our pubic hair and it's like, honey, I shrunk the kids, but with like, I don't know. I don't remember that one. It was super on a ratic.

Or was it super on a ratic? So you guys remember one, as the USA Apple Night movie about, a guy and a girl are become college roommates for some reason and they start to be, they're like competing as pimps where they're like, both running different prostitution rings, future college students having sex with other college students. And at the end, they merge their businesses and sleep together. And I guess they're in a relationship now. And I was thinking about this the other day

about what a weird story of looking at is. And I was trying to remember the name of the movie and I couldn't, what's that? But if I had a dime for every USA Apple Night movie, I couldn't remember the name of. I'd have plenty of dimes. Probably at least a dollar, sort of dimes. You better believe, yeah, sure.

Okay. So what's the next part of this box? Now this is the next and last part of this podcast is where I recommend movies, movies that you should watch instead of watching the movie that we watched tonight, which was called the US. It's an end in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

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If you want, I saw a movie recently that I really liked a lot. It was at times bracing, but really well made. And that was a documentary movie called I Am Not Your Knee Grow directed by Raoul Peck and it's basically it's not exactly about James Baldwin but it is taking some some unfinished work of James Baldwin's about start the focus is specifically about the

death of Medgravers Malcolm X and Martin Luther King but also through the way Raoul Peck juxtaposes that with other things, relating the civil rights struggle of the 60s with the earlier plight of African Americans, and then what's going on with black people today and black lives matters, and creating a continuum between those things to show that those problems are underlying problems, the continued problems that can't go away easily and have not been dealt with. And it uses a lot of footage of, of James Baldwin just speaking.

And James Baldwin is one of the most articulate people who ever existed, basically. And he's such a magnetic and like deep thinking speaker that I'm like his writing, I'm always incredibly inspired by and and it's and confronted by like in ways that are don't always make me comfortable but are not supposed to make me comfortable and seeing him speak is such an electrifying experience and the parts of the work that are

from his writing are read by Samuel Jackson and it was a long time into the movie before I realized it was Samuel Jackson it's like maybe it's this narration is like one of the best performances by Samuel Jackson. I've seen it a long time where it feels like he is becoming this character rather than Lion is a regular Samuel Jackson part. And I thought it was really good and made me it was one of those things where it's like it didn't it's not exactly like it made me question my beliefs, but it made me reassert some beliefs and confront them and ask myself questions about how I'm living them, basically those beliefs. And I thought, as well, it was really effective and good. That's called, I am not your Negro.

Yeah, I've heard all the good things. I'm really bad about getting around watching documentaries in general. No, and this is also like, it's not like a fun movie to watch in any sense, the word. It's a movie that it's not what I'm looking at. You're not like, this is a toss-up. Should I watch Lego Batman? Exactly. It's not like, oh, that was a hard day of work.

I guess I'll kick back and watch. I am not your Negro. And kind of be forced to confront the sins that I am complicit in in the nation. Yeah. I will say that at one point, in order to make the point, there's some movie clips it uses. It also talks about a little bit of a portrayal of non-white people in movies

in a way that James Baldwin wrote about in his work. And there's a part where it to kind of show the obliviousness of white America that was built on the oppression of Black America. It shows a clip from the pajama game, and there was a moment where I was like, well, if you're going to hold up musicals to this level, then wait a minute. But it's not a movie that you can just sit back for relaxation, but it was really good. Yeah.

Speaking of documentaries, I wanted to recommend maybe my favorite documentary, which is a movie called Crumb, which is about Robert Crumb. Now Robert Crumb is, let's call him a problematic figure. He, uh... Having just recommended, I am not your Negro. Certainly Crumb's treatment of black people in his work is. Yeah, he, uh, he, I don't know. I don't know whether he is racist himself. He certainly treats a lot of racist imagery in his, uh, in his work. Uh, he, it's, it's, he comes from this like crumb as an artist is an amazing artist, but his subject matter, a lot of it, I feel like comes from that 60s national

ampune type era feeling where it was, I I guess national ampune was a little later, where it was like white guys fighting against authority would still do shitty things and talk shitty things about white people and women. Definitely. It was like, it's time for us to rise up and fight the power, but you guys are still below me. And he has, there's a lot of that in his mind.

There's, there's, there's kind of feel like Johnny Ryan is kind of like a modern equivalent of that too. Maybe he's still like, it's almost like the, I'm going to be as offensive as possible, targeting everybody all the time. But I feel like with Johnny Ryan, there's like a consciousness about doing that. Whereas with Robert Krom, I feel like there's a little bit

of like, this is the kind of, these are the kind of like cartoon images that black people like grew up with. So I'm going to play with that iconography. Yeah, you're probably. Yeah, no. Definitely. And also the way he treats women is nuts. Yeah, I know.

I was going to get around to that too. He's got racist imagery. His treatment of women is terrible. Let's say. But. But it's his draftsmanship, but his cross-hatching. No, I'm not going to defend Robert Crom is a person.

I don't think of the documentary. Documentary does necessarily itself. He's an interesting person. He's an interesting character. And it presents his two brothers. It's weird when you watch him move out Robert Crom and you're like, oh, Robert Crom was the normal one. Yeah.

That he has these crazier brothers. Well, that's the thing like you see how art has rescued Robert Crom in a certain way whereas where he can vomit out kind of all of these unpleasant sides of his personality onto the page whereas his brothers were not necessarily saved by that in the same way. Like, I don't know, but I don't know. I mean, they both of them are artists to some degree or another, but not in the same way that Robert Crumb is. Not in a kind of recognized acclaimed. Yeah. And they are both, you know, to not to put it to find a point on it, mentally ill people who have their own troubles

and struggles to deal with. And you see how Robert Crumb has somehow risen out of this family where there have been these problems. And, it's funny when you say, I'm used to thinking about this R-Crumb. So when you say Robert Crumb, I keep thinking you're about to say Robert Crowellwitch from Radio Lab.

Very different person. Robert Crowellwitch, always playing around with racist and sexist iconography. Robert Crowellwitch, he does all those radio live episodes about women with very thick thighs. Yeah. Yeah. Either they're either attacking him or just mindless sex objects. It's just a fascinating character study and there's also if you like, you know, like a camera pun, if you like a camera panning over beautiful line drawings while jazz music plays that also happens in crumb a lot. So it's a movie that's

again challenging but I think it's a very good documentary. It's too hard. And I'm going to recommend a new movie. I think by the time this episode comes out, it'll been out for a little bit. Recommending the new Edgar Wright movie, Baby Driver, Dan saw it. Last night is what we both saw it last night, but at different screenings. Yeah. I had to go to a screening where Edgar Wright did a Q&A afterwards. Like you poor baby, fulfilling a dream of seeing one of my favorite filmmakers make a do a Q&A. So I don't, I mean, I don't think I need to say that much more about the, the background of the movie. It's a heist movie and it's a car chase movie and it's a movie that's

also kind of scene for scene set to to music so that the Even though it isn't like technically a musical in some ways it reminds me of like a jukebox musical Every scene has its own kind of rhythm that fits to the song that's been chosen. The cast is really great. My little buddy, Ansel Elgort, delivers a really great performance and holds his own sharing scenes

with Kevin Spacey and Jamie Foxx and John Ham. Some of the like most charismatic actors currently working like fucking movie stars. And I feel like everybody involved is able to deliver these really great kind of, I don't want to say muted but kind of subtle performances that hint at depth muted but kind of subtle performances that hint at depth and don't overshadow a movie that's already kind of big and in your face and kind of crazy. Now Edgar Wright's a filmmaker that I, some of his past work, I've had really strong connections with. I found space when I was in my early 20s and it really connected with me.

And then in my 30s, you know, world's end came out and I saw, I don't know a lot of connections between some of the relationships I had with both people and, you know, be like the difference between, you know, growing up and being a man and my relationship with society. And so, a new Edgar Wright movie is kind of complicated for me. Like I'm basically going into what I assumed I was going to like it. And I think Baby Driver is great and I like it a lot. But it isn't at the same place. Does create that connection for you? Which is not necessarily a critique.

It's just, I'm not at the exact same place in my life. I think there's a lot of things that are amazing about it. It's great, you should go see it. Edger Wright has never been good at giving email characters any kind of drive or purpose really in his movies. Every movie where they should have drive, it's baby driver.

But the, it's funny, when you start a many driver. The, and the baby. But like, the baby newer. It's so. It's just our many driver. The baby, baby newer. It's so funny that like, I mean, in a way you got to start with space, which is a show where like Jessica Stevenson is great,

and she gets almost equal bill. And she basically is equal billing to Simon Pegg, like she gets to be silly. That's really car-roading. Yeah, well, but that's the sort of thing where you're like, it would be nice to see that kind of voice in his work again. Yeah.

But that said, though this doesn't necessarily excuse it, I know my wife and a couple other female friends of mine have liked this more than any of his other works. My wife really didn't give a shit about his other stuff, but she loved, I think she liked baby drive more than I did. I mean, the his other stuff digs into how male friendship works. So much deeper that even if this one is not,

it is not like everyone gets a, it gets fair screen time in character. If it's not about that, I could see how. No, I think I think you're right. How she would like it more, yeah. I'm's not about that, I could see how. No, I think I think you're right. How's you would like it more? Yeah. I'm excited to see it. I think I mean, I think everyone should go see it. I think it's great. I mean, the idea of a baby driving cars, hilarious.

It's hilarious. Like look who's driving now. And and flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Elliott's favor band is in it. Oh, yeah. I just love their stuff. They give it away song. Don't't it? Oh, yeah. I just love their stuff. Like give it a way, song. Don't give it away. Give it to me. Right.

Well, it's late and we've been recording for a long time. So that always means one thing and that means that we're going to go away from your ears. So back to the phantom zone, we'll be existing between episodes. So somebody close the cupboardantom zone, will we exist between episodes? Somebody close the cupboard and we return to being little plastic stand amongst the podcast of the cupboard. We don't say it enough, but we belong to a great network called Maximum Fun, go to MaximumFun.org,

check out all the other great shows there. There are a lot of fantastic shows. It's a, it is a bunch of new ones too. It's really awesome. Yeah, it's a really great network and the level of quality is so consistent and even when new podcasts come in like they bring quality with them, it's a really, I feel very proud to be part of this network. Yeah, so why don't you go do that while we go off and go to sleep.

Or the sleep. Or the all right. I'll go to sleep for both. I'll just go play video games party all night long. I will do the opposite and creep into my house where my wife and son are sleeping and and crawling to bed. I'm going to wrap them turtle beaches around my head during the power on and go travel to another dimension of terror and excitement.

Well, everyone has a goal. I'm going to go to bed, man. I'm going to mix down these three tracks that we're recording on and then I'm going to go straight to bed. But that's a little technical talk for the podcast. We'll talk about what bed on a cast for mattress sounds really great. uh... that's a little technical talk for the five cast that would have been yeah on a cast for mattress sounds really great but the lot of time in the morning hey he's a lia calen

oh wow store wellington wow oh man oh that's so well said can i have everyone how does it make you feel when when Elliot gives you like a really solid burn when you try to put out something honest in this in the world like make some real honest creative content. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How does it make you feel when Elliot just fucking hold your feet to like holes? This is totally rocks you Rocks you and so flavor blast me. Yeah, yeah, I'm just a mega feel You know, I feel like a little soul part of my soul dies. Oh wow, okay, you got a big Oh wow, wow, it's me own Wilson Wow, how does he fucking sound then, dude? Wow, Ernest Hammingway. Wow, F's conference Gerald, you think I'm a good, wow. That's him in person.

Are you saying, Midnight, Midnight in person? Are you saying he's better than I am, Dan, right there? What? My impression is a great either. Wow. Wow. Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!

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