The Flop House - Episode #393 - Ticket to Paradise
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Um, this episode we discuss, ticket to Paradise,
which based on the blooper reel was a lot of fun to make.
Yeah. Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey, it's me Stuart Wellington.
And I'm Elliott Kaelin trying to match Stuart's energy, but it feels forced when I do it. What's the purpose doing your voices like your 90s cartoon character cool because they
were radical and tubular and I know it's a radical that's radical plus cool. Hey guys,
here's the thing. Let's cut the crap. We've got something important to talk about.
And it's not these cartoon characters, which I know are very important. And I want to
talk about them. Thank you to our fans for coming out to last weekend. I believe it's the weekend before this episode
is released because we don't record exactly on the day of release. Last weekend's flop
house live show at the bellhouse in Brooklyn, New York, you were a great audience. I say,
as if I didn't record this ahead of the show, but you were incredible.
You have never been fucking funnier and hotter.
Thanks. Do you change the way I think about comedy in a good way? Yeah. Yeah. And Dan,
keep it up. Wonderful stuff. Huh. That's a different.
Exactly. For you. Good compliment. No. It's true. So I know a lot of a lot of our listeners out there
are like, I don't live in Brooklyn. I couldn't get there. I missed the show. Why are you talking about
it? Rubbing my face and the fact that I couldn't get there. I missed the show. Why are you talking about it?
Rubbing my face in the fact that I missed this amazing show.
Here's the thing listeners.
You don't have to miss the show because you're going to get your own chance to see it.
That's right.
The flop house battle with Battlefield Earth, our live Brooklyn battlefield earth show
is going to be online for you to watch starting April 22nd, 2023, on April 22nd, 2023, 7 p.m. Eastern,
it will debut online as a streaming thing,
and we will be there in the chat window
to talk to you about it.
Now, this is not the kind of thing
that's gonna happen for free.
Unfortunately, we live in a capitalist society.
If it was up to me, we would not.
We would live in a place where we could have
whatever we want from each according to their ability to each according to their need. That's not the word we live
in. Here's the brass tax. You're going to have to buy tickets. Tickets are available.
If you go to www.flophousepodcast.com slash stream, you can buy tickets to this exclusive
streaming event. How exclusive is it? Well, you'll also have the chance to get VIP meet and
greet tickets where you'll have an opportunity
to talk to us by yourself with us, the flop houses guys. I don't know if it's by yourself. I think
there might be, well, anyway, some sort of chat, chat, chat, you'll get an actual chat, you'll get
an actual chat and two with us if you're eating at the time. We probably won't be, but you can,
that's fine. You'll be in the comfort of your own house. We'll exclusive merchandise be available
during the show.
Yes, and we've seen it, and it looks fantastic.
It's some of my favorite merchandise that I think we've ever had.
That's the flop house, battle with battlefield earth.
If you want tickets, go to www.flophousepodcast.com slash stream.
It's one of those things where it's kind of premier April 22nd
at 7 p.m. Eastern, and we will be there in the kind of chat
to watch it with you.
And you know, text talk to you while it's happening, but then it'll be streaming for a while
after that.
So if you can't make it that night, you can get tickets to watch it at your leisure from
that moment on.
Yeah.
And we want to tell people to we've been working with a company to make it look real nice.
Like, you know, it's not just, I don't know, someone set up a camera and that's what it
looked like at the bellhouse. It'll be edited together. It'll look good. Yeah. It's going to look
good for you guys. And it's a way to see a show that maybe, maybe you would want to if you lived
in the area, but you just don't. And it's going to include our presentations. And this will be one
of the first times you can really see us doing our program presentations, which again are specific to this show.
Yeah, on stage. Yeah. Usually you only get to see those if you go to the show in person.
This time, you can watch them later afterwards.
Yeah. And hopefully, and we don't know for sure, but hopefully by the time this episode drops,
we actually should have trailers for that event on our social media. Yeah, it'll be neat.
Yep. It'll be neat. So that's a pop house.
It'll make me feel like a real big time person.
I'll be like, look, that's a trailer that has me in it.
Dan, you've always felt like a big time person to me.
Thanks.
Medium time.
No, I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
It's still doing some kind of a labor fit.
It's, it's still trying to seduce Dan to get his, the riches that has been left
in the flop house podcast.com slash stream to buy your tickets. I'm super excited about
you getting the chance to see it and about interacting with you. Should you choose that opportunity,
flop house listener. But now let's get back to the show, which is called the flop house.
What do we do? Yeah, what do we do on this?
What do we do on the spot?
The spot.
I'm so excited.
The words can't come out my mouth fast enough.
What do you do on the flop house?
Yeah, it's a flop house.
It's a show, it's a podcast, where we watch a bad movie.
All right.
And then we talked about it.
Or, you know, a movie that has gotten maybe not the greatest, it hasn't taken either the either or the critical or the box office
by fire. Based on the, based on the rotten tomato meter, this one's seem to have a decent
audience score straight down the middle, not so much. Critic wise, I felt like better critic
had it at a solid 50 right in the middle of their school.
And you know what?
And it made a little bit of money.
So I guess that's the end of the episode, guys.
Congratulations.
I'll take it to paradise.
We've talked yourself.
You did that get flopped.
Yeah, but it wasn't like, I think the reaction, even the positive reaction, was tinged with a little bit of meh,
especially considering that it was like,
oh, we've got these two big Hollywood stars,
old-time movies, not old-timey,
but what feel like our version of old-time movie stars
heading to the book?
Yes, two-drip charisma.
And are very, have a lot of chemistry together.
And that's the thing.
And this is the first time they've ever been in a movie together.
Hold on, let me check my notes.
Wait, oh no, the eighth or ninth time they've made a movie together.
Yeah.
But there's a reason why they've made a lot of movies together.
Yeah.
Because they're generally they generally have chemistry.
Yes.
Julia Roberts and George Clooney.
You pronounce their names correctly.
$100 a day.
Well, I realized that I don't think we actually mentioned the names of the stars, which
would be helpful.
And we have a fresh crop of stars in supporting roles we have.
Caitlin Deever.
Yep.
Star of the future.
I love and, like I've loved since justified.
Very great.
Loved since justified. And great. Loved since justified. And also great in book smart.
And Billy Lord, the daughter of Carrie Fisher. Very funny.
Lieutenant Connicks of the Star Wars universe.
Yeah, so this is ticket to paradise. And I'm a deriving this plane, I guess. It's a party, it's a plane.
Party plane, party boat.
I mean, in this movie we see planes, boats, jeeps,
and a motorcycle.
So choose your vehicle, you can drive.
Yeah, no trains or automobiles.
Sorry.
You do see automobiles that a Jeep is an automobiles,
but there are no trains.
So the movie, I think Bolly has a dearth of trains, but you know.
Sure, being an island.
So guys, before I get into the plot, most of this movie takes place in Bolly, which I'm
assuming in part was chosen because everybody wanted to go on vacation.
Now I'm going to admit, I don't know that much about Bolly.
Mainly I know about Indonesia from action movies and also that I know that Bolly is like
a vacation destination of choice
for influencers and only fans creators.
Yes.
So do you guys know anything about Bali?
I know less than that.
I don't know much about Bali, and I know even less after watching the movie because according
to Wikipedia, principal photography took place in Queensland, Australia.
So the movie itself was not really made much in Bali.
Here's the thing about this movie.
This is a movie that, for the most part,
it's a George Clooney Julia Roberts charm off,
but they go to Bali and the characters in Bali.
And I think this is a small step
in the right direction of progressivism
and a big step in an inadvertent wrong direction.
The characters are not played,
they're the fact that they are,
Bolognese is not played for laughs, you know,
but at the same time,
the characters who are not George Clooney and Julia Roberts,
but also especially the characters
who are not the white American characters,
have very little personality
and very little point of view of anything.
And as we get into it,
this movie is about a man, a woman who are not happy
that their daughter is about to get married to someone she barely knows, his race doesn't enter into it. This movie is about to a man, a woman who are not happy that their daughter is about to get married to someone she barely knows. His race doesn't enter into it. But the fact
that none of the, husband, none of the groom's family seems to have any opinion other than,
this is wonderful. We love everything. We're great. It really struck me as weird. The characters
are D kind of, they have no agency essentially. And I think that's an element of them trying to be like
there's no racism to the movie, but it but it inadvertently makes them almost not characters.
Do you feel the same way? And I'm jumping into two deep waters as they do in the movie when
Adolfin attacks one of the dead. It's true. It's a little bit of wacky business to do. The groom is himself just kind of a manic pixie dream
boy.
He's a non-entity, yeah.
But I will say that I would agree with you more, Elliot, if I didn't feel like basically
all of the characters are given the bare minimum of characterization. I had no idea really who Caitlin Dever was either slightly more with our leads, but not
really.
That's a good point is that the Indonesian characters have very little personality,
but also so does the third lead in the movie.
I feel like the character, and we'll get to him in a little bit, I feel like the character
who has the most character is Paul Julie Roberts character's
boyfriend.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the movie, before we get in, one thing I would say, it's not about Bali.
This movie is directed by All Parker, and I guess the name is short for Oliver, I think.
But every time I read it, I think it says All Parker.
And then like, who should we, who should we get to direct ticket to Paradise?
Oh, well, I could take on your movie All Parker. What? said, you're tired. Yeah, you gave up that life of crime.
You said, you know, I'm already ready to get pulled back into a
wonderful game for a rock with a cloning and Roberts on vacation.
I mean, I feel like that's the ultimate heist is stealing America's hearts.
But he leads.
Yeah, this is exactly.
This director did Mamma Mia.
Here we go again.
That's, I know that that's one of the other big credits.
Yes.
So this would be,
Yeah, that's another old Parker joint.
Yep.
This movie is, is similarly sort of like vibrantly colored like vacation porn.
And for, for a rom, like, it doesn't, none of
the cinematography or anything enhances the comedy, but it does enhance like, there's
so many like films out there that are just sort of shot with no style at all. It was nice
to like at least have something pretty to look at.
It definitely helps the movies mood that it is full of bright colors, bright colors, sunshine,
that kind of stuff. Yeah, it feels like around vacation. Now, before we, again, before we get into
the plot, I was just talking to one of my bartenders, who is a film critic in her own right, Margaret
Barton Fomo. And she was saying that this movie reminded her of a trend in the 30s of
comedies of remarriage. Do you feel that is?
Elliot, I feel like you're the authority on this type of bullshit.
Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff. I mean, the thing is it, comedies of remarriage were,
there were quite a bit, you'd have movies like The Alpha Truth or my favorite wife or
the, you know, there's one with William Powell and Merniloy too, that's a particular like
that where it is a either married couple splits apart and then or Mr. Mrs. Smith splits apart
and then realizes why they should be together or a mara or a, but it's also or his
girlfriend, a is one of those also. I mean, that's 1940, I think, but, but it's this, you
know, it's the same time basically. And I think it does fit into that, but overall, it
fits into the large, overomantic comedy trope of they hate each other.
Now they love each other.
Like, that's the African queen up till today.
And I mean, the 30s are plenty of those two.
And then I feel like that's a big,
it's in a romantic comedy, the big challenge is making it clear to the audience,
these characters are in love with each other, need to be together.
And then coming up with reasons why they are not together.
And I feel like this movie does not a great job of doing that because these two people who
are divorcees who don't like each other anymore. So they say, they just kind of snipe at each
other in funny ways, but they don't really seem to have any real problems with each other.
As opposed to some of the comedies of remarriage of the 30s, like there would be, you know, you know, they, they, they would kind of do a better job of at least
showing the married people almost starting relationships outside of that, that previous relationship.
And here there's, except for Paul, Julie Roberts, boyfriend who, from the first moment,
it seems clear, Julie Roberts is not that into. Yes.
Other than that, there's no other element like that.
There's no reason for them not to get back together.
Yeah.
So the movie opens with divorced parents, David in Georgia, again, played by George Clooney,
and which is weird that Julia Roberts' character's name is Georgia, but not played by George
Clooney.
Is that weird?
It's weird, okay?
Do you think there's a report where George Clooney. Is that weird? It's weird, okay?
Do you think there's a part where George Clooney
was reading his lines and he saw these
addressing someone as George and he go,
well why am I talking to myself?
Oh, I just was like, the name has different than mine.
Yeah, yeah.
So let's get the writer on the horn.
So they're in their respective cities.
Oh, partner, yeah, George, I got a question here.
How come this character, how come this character,
how come up Mike, I'm talking to myself? I don't understand. Well, did you finish reading the name, George. I got a question here. How come this character? How come this care? How come up Mike? I'm talking to myself. I don't understand. Well, did you finish reading the name of George?
No, I didn't. Well, take a look at that last two letters. We'll see. They're different from the last letter.
All right. I don't think you're going to be right. Oh, George. My apologies. Oh, I didn't call you up in the middle of the night.
It's okay. My age. I don't sleep that much anyway. Trickney is acting up means it's gonna rain tomorrow.
Uh-oh. Well, we have enough covered sets that we can work on for that day of the shoot.
Uh-oh. Parker's been around the movie game more than once.
I know how to handle rain or the thread of rain.
And who obviously if you be okay and then George hangs something that's women,
I called him.
But he may sound like he called me. That's an amazing way to get off the phone.
Yeah, he's great. That's why he off the phone. Yeah, he's great.
That's why he's the best.
Yeah.
That's why they had to bring him out of retirement.
So they're in their respective cities
and they're recounting their former relationship
to co-workers, friends, et cetera.
George Clooney is what like a high-powered architect.
Architect?
I know, that's the way he goes.
That's both rich.
Yeah, and she is a-
I mean, the thing is, how you do is you see him at a building site. So I don't
know if he's the architect. If he owns the building, what? I don't know. Yeah. And Julia Roberts
is what like a, she runs a gallery. She owns an art get that, that's how, that's how kind
of textbook rom com. This is that he's like a tech and she owns an art gallery. Like
they're not even trying. He built a building, she makes it beautiful. What are some glamour adjacent jobs that people sort of vaguely understand, but don't know
so much about that they'll scoff at when we talk.
So this conversation, we're hearing both of their sides on their relationship and we get
two very different spins on the same story.
But part of the backstory that has dropped is that we find out that George Clooney's
character proposed to Julia Roberts, David proposed to Georgia at her graduation, which is
to me a little insane because it was her day.
It was her day to celebrate her achievement and he took it from her.
Yeah, like just like the dad and big fish, everything's always gotta be about him.
So but they were married for only five years, but they did have a daughter, Lily.
They do not get along.
It was not an amicable divorce.
But they have not seen each other very much, but they both have to go to their daughter's
graduation from law school. I think law school. Yeah, she's graduation from law school.
I think.
Law school.
Yeah, she's graduating from law school.
We get introduced to Lily, played by Taylor.
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
My sister graduated from law school, and our parents are divorced, is ticket to paradise
about my family?
Well, I mean, when we follow the risk of the plot, perhaps.
People have to see, I mean, I watched the movie,
but I'm going to pretend that I don't know what happens.
So I can compare it to my life and see if they've stolen my story.
Yeah, as we go along, keep a document open, you know,
see what you have, see what kind of legal action we can take against.
Yeah.
And by say, we, I want to cut it this.
Yeah, okay.
I mean, you are a lawyer, right?
I mean, I should be sure.
My sister went to law school, but you should probably handle the case. So we meet Lily again played by Caitlin Deever
and her best friend in roommate, Ren, like the bird. Now, did you throw anyone else off? That's the
thing. Until I looked up the movie's cast on Wikipedia, I was like, oh, they spill it,
Ren, like the bird. And I kept thinking it was Ren, like, like, Ren and Steve. Yeah.
Yeah. And I was like, well, it, it, it, it lines up. She would have been born like, you know, the parents could have
been Nickelodeon fans. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So they're packing for their post graduation trip to
Bali. Lilia's packing schoolbooks. Ren is packing a long string of condoms that really
kind of defines their two characters. David and Georgia and the package.
But all those books are hollowed out in their condoms inside.
Well, with condoms, just loose, not even wrapped.
Oh, no. Some used, but washed.
You can fit more in there.
No, Stuart, God, hell. David and Georgia end up having to sit next to each other during
the ceremony and they can't
stop bickering and fighting, distracting people around them.
They continue to argue all the way to the airport.
It's just constant arguing.
They argue all the way to the airport the next day when they have to take Lily and Ren
to their flight at Bali.
There's a nice joke about having done 70-acre bombs, which which was only one too many Yeager Boms, which is not true.
Any Yeager Boms is too many.
I'm sorry, kids.
That's a professional bar owner.
As a professional, I can say Yeager Boms, no thank you.
Let's see.
Lily, and so we get a little bit of like fast forward.
We get some Instagram pictures and Bolly, that's to show everybody that social
media exists in this world.
We get worried.
Yeah, we get to show them that, to show them that us that are having a great time in Bolly.
They're having a great time.
We get an opening credit sequence and having like had a vague idea of like what the plot
of the movie was, you know, from like ads and whatnot.
Like I sort of expected the whole like meeting between Caitlin Deaver and her soon to be a husband
character, to be just be done during this montage, show it through photos too. And with genuinely just like skip to like Clooney and Julia Roberts getting like an invitation and like freaking
out, you know, but maybe I like, I think you could have been more efficient. Okay. So that's
what I'm saying. You're not probably right.
Actually, that interesting. The meat. No, especially because the, so that the groom's
care, groom is named what guide. Is that his name? Getty. Getty. That's what it's getty.
And he is not, he's very handsome. And I'm sure like he's not really given a chance to
show us what kind of an actor he is because there's not much to him.
And I kind of almost wish that it was like Bridesmaids where Tim Heidecker is just walking
around and has no lines.
And the whole time you're like, is this some kind of elaborate fucking dip?
Yeah, like do they know he was there that day?
Like did he photo bomb a movie?
Like how does this possible?
I was at working.
But the, in some ways, I think that would have made more sense
because then you as the audience too would not know
who is this guy, is it the right choice or not?
Right, yeah.
It's the whole meat cut and it's clear that
as with all people who live in other countries,
he is close to the land and lives in a more traditional, you know, healthy way and is has a family and we get this great meet cute where
Ren and Lily are abandoned in the ocean and before they die, get a show's up and it briefly
turns into the movie Open Water before a getty shows up. Yeah, I assume that we were missing the scene
where like whatever like snorkeling tour boat gets sued.
We're not doing a headcat about who's on the boat.
And so yeah, she meets this handsome seaweed farmer, Gette, then they connect up a party
which looks like a lot of fun.
And then Lily wakes up in his bed, which is very much looks at his seaweed farm, which looks
very much like a resort.
But we learned that it doesn't seem to have a, it doesn't have a fourth wall, right?
Like it's just open to the beach.
Yeah, it looks very, yeah, again, it looks like the place influencers stay and they're
like, I just roll a lot of bed.
I eat some granola and then I jump right into the ocean.
And they spit that granola into the ocean for the fish.
Yeah, well, that's how the cycle works.
They don't want all the calories of the food.
So Lily, after talking to get a realize her entire life
is out of balance and that she wants to stay
in this beautiful place and I'm like, you know, shit,
everyone wants to stay on permanent vacation, dude.
It's because he showed her. beautiful place and I'm like, you know shit, everyone wants to stay on permanent vacation, dude.
He showed her, he showed her, Kuranah Skasi the night before.
That's actually how she realized.
So he's much more of a dude than I thought.
Yeah, I got to show you this movie first.
I tell you what it means.
There is a, this movie is planned and I mean, again, it's a romantic comedy.
It doesn't have to be real.
Like it's a fantasy from top to bottom, but you're right, Stewart, it is playing off that feeling you get when you're on vacation
where it's like, I love this place.
I should live here, wait a minute.
What I actually love is not going to work and relaxing every day.
Like I've had that experience in San Francisco, in Paris, where I'm like, I could live here
forever.
Oh wait a minute, it's because I have no responsibility as well I'm here, except to
just put food in my face when I'm hungry.
And so then you thought, but if I faked my own death, I could have no responsibility.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, yeah, I just want to lie around on the beach, read crazy from the heat all day long.
That's balance to me.
Sure.
Dan, you know, you've read Maltese Falcon.
You know, as soon as I faked my own death and I go somewhere, I'm just going to get
another family, another job, I'll have all the same stresses.
Because that happens when girders aren't falling on your head.
You just revert to the mean, you know?
Yeah.
I feel like, and also I feel like that's, like that, that kind of fits the Elliot I have built
up in my mind, this one where even in your fantasy, you're like, but I need more responsibility.
So this, I mean, I've always said to Daniel, I'm like, oh, I can't wait till I retire.
And she's like, why?
And I'm like, then I'll have more time for writing.
And so it's like it.
It's a, yeah, I'm a ceaseless engine, unfortunately.
Uh, okay.
So then we get a, we get a title card, guys.
37 days later.
So at this point, Killian Murphy has gotten on the hospital.
So Killian Murphy's been out of the hospital for nine days at this.
There's already an ad like Quasie.
He's aware of what's going on.
He knows the situation.
He's not surprised anymore.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's still a surprise of the depths that humans can, uh, different.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
So we then see what if we wait a minute, what if the, now I want to believe these are happening
the same universe and when Killian Murphy sees that airplane at the end of 28 days later, he is seeing George Clooney and Julia Roberts
heading to Bali for their daughter's wedding.
There's nothing in this movie that doesn't say that England has become a quarantine zombie
wasteland.
It's the shared ticket to Wright universe, ticket to Wright, ticket to Paradise.
If I was, if I was lily at this point, I'd be like, yeah, I'm staying in Bali.
It seems safer here.
Yeah. It's an island that in Bali. It seems safer here. Yeah.
It's an island that the rage virus can't get here.
So while the rage virus is raging, it's destroying England.
Meanwhile in Bali.
Yeah.
Meanwhile in what?
LA, we see a very large building that in very large letters reads the Georgia cotton
gallery and I'm like, oh, she's rich, rich. She's very well off. You see a very large building that in very large letters reads, the Georgia cotton gallery,
and I'm like, oh, she's rich, rich.
She's very well off.
And she is taking a meeting with a client.
She is wearing a suit that incorporates shorts.
That is very tasteful, I would say.
You know, when you said the fourth recording that you hadn't edited down your notes, I thought
surely that's not the case.
Okay, so. No, I, for one, love Stuart's fashion. recording that you hadn't edited down your notes. I thought surely that's not the case.
Okay, so I for one love Stuart's fashion
yeah, stuff that is often overlooked by Elliott. Yeah, very much so. Yeah, I'm going to like.
So, uh, she get, uh, Georgia gets a phone call from David because turns out,
Lily is getting married in Bali to a fellow she met in Bali.
And David and Georgia immediately decide they have to break this up, though they
don't talk to each other about it then. They end up bumping into each other on the same
flight to Bali. They're sitting next to each other on the same row. And to make matters
more interesting, Georgia's hot young boyfriend, whose French Paul is the pilot on that flight. Dan described Paul for us.
He just seems like a big little puppy dog. Like all he cares about is Julia Roberts.
To the point of having almost no character,
a drive himself, other than his need to be with Julia Robertson supporter.
Which is a red flag, ladies.
He definitely has, he is, he is
supportive to the point of
almost being a horror character.
Mothering.
Yeah, just mother, it's like a real
monkey's pause situation.
You wanted a supportive boyfriend.
Here you go.
I mean, I would say that was true in real,
I have complex feelings because I like,
yes, the movie presents it as his
trait in a way
that is like, you know, surface level like nice, but then like, later on her daughter is
like, you know, this is like being loved isn't the same as loving, you know, like, and the
idea is that, yeah, clearly this guy would become smothering over time and doesn't seem
to have his own stuff going on in a way that is probably
not good for a long-term relationship.
That said, I feel like Julia Roberts and George Clooney both act so unpleasant towards each
other and so abominably towards their daughter for the first half of this movie that in contrast,
I'm like, this guy is too good for her.
Yeah, I mean, that's the other thing is that he has that trait.
He is a kind of manipulatively toxically supportive guy, but if you take that away, he's
an incredibly handsome French pilot.
There's no reason that he should be with, I mean, and Julia Roberts is a beautiful charismatic
woman.
She owns an art gallery.
I'm sure she has a lot of interesting things who own her life that they can relate to about each other. But like that she is an
older woman who is already a divorcee and has a child. It doesn't make sense to me that this guy
would be in a relationship with her at his point in life. I know. I don't think that's enough
of a red flag. I would say her status. I wouldn't call that. I don't think that's a red flag.
It just seemed unrealistic to me. I would say the unrealistic part is that he does not notice the very clear sexual tension
between her and her bickering ex-husband.
Yes, and also it doesn't seem to notice how little she seems to like him.
Yes, and how good affection she has for him.
Although, guys, sometimes that's a real turn on her.
I mean, that could be Paul's gank.
You're right.
Is he wants to be the loving one? He doesn't want to be the more loving one. Yeah. that's a real turn on. I mean, that's, you know what, that could be Paul's think. You're right.
Is he, he wants to be the loving one.
He doesn't want to be the more loving one.
Yeah.
It would be the more loving one and the less loved one could be it.
You know what, he's complicated.
He's friends.
I wouldn't say that like, he's unaware of like what's going on between her, including.
He seems to be aware of it.
Yeah.
But he's like choosing not to be bothered by it, which honestly made him more attractive.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Yeah, that's very, at least he's just letting it play out and see what happens.
And then like he'll make his choice.
Not to jump ahead too much, but there is a part where he knows that she has spent the
night in George Clooney's room and he is totally okay with it.
And I wanted her to be like, look, Georgia, that's what I'm into.
I am into you cucking me.
This is what I want.
Finally, we're getting somewhere in this relationship.
Like I wanted that scene, but it didn't happen, unfortunately.
Well, yeah, you can write it right into your movie.
Right in the margins of your movie.
Let's get me called Cuck to Paradise.
And it's going to be just from Paul's point of view and how turned on he is by the whole
situation.
Like nothing makes him hotter than the idea of losing her to her ex-husband.
They're plenty of websites, I think, that would be happily exhausted.
Yeah, it's a short story.
Well, do you think they printed the Atlantic?
That's what I'm really aiming for.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Is there a news hook?
Maybe they could have had.
I can find something, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so the Georgian, David, trying to come up with a plan, taking the ferry to the,
I guess the family farm, the island that they're going to, but they can't seem to agree,
although they kind of try and play it cool when they see their daughter again. They try to
play it cool and supportive, but then like, they're hoping to like undercut it and cause a rift between the two between
their daughter and her husband.
Initially, Lily seems onto them, but then kind of forgets about it until like the beginning
of the end of the second act or so.
Lily has is aware of the situation when the movie demands her to be an unaware when the
movie demands her to be.
Yeah. So they go to a big pre-wedding party, which is,
unless off camera, she's getting hit in the head with coconuts and forgetting things,
which it can't be an interesting choice to make in the movie.
It's really good.
The whole party wanted to do that.
Well, we shot the scenes with the coconuts, but the movie was running a might long and I
know you modern day movie people, you sit for two and a half, three hours for your movie,
but I don't want to go much farther over an hour, 30 And this was an hour 44 with credits. And that's the sweet spot
for Old Parker. I was using Kubrickian precision. And I had to hit
Caitlin on the head with a cocoa nut of more than a hundred times when she then had to
be airlifted off the island to a hospital and then the producers stepped in and said,
is this scene really necessary?
They said the insurance company was starting to ask questions and I said,
you don't know how many times I threw a coconut at the head of Joan Fontaine when I needed to.
We had real movie making in those days and the actors and the actresses
while they never complained because they knew this was their ticket to Stardom.
Talk about a paradise.
And they're like, I'll let you go. Wait, but we call it a party to talk complaint about
the scene. But then you have to let you call us amazing.
I'm going to pass that. Okay. So they arrive at a pre-wedding party, which is supposed
to be close family, but it turns out that close family is a relatively large community.
And Lily has grown
very close with this family, but Georgian David are very out of their element. We get some jokes about
them not understanding the language. There is one, there is a character who ends up being the
translator for some of the other family members who can't speak English. And I think she gets a
couple of good laugh lines like, you know, hearing a big string of, is it like Indonesian or Bollinese? I
don't know what the word, what the language is. I'm not sure.
But she'll hear like a long string of words and then just be like, she says hello.
That those kind of questions. Yeah, that character, she's, she's very much
kind of like over at uninterested boards, you know, teen or whatever. And it's her and
Ren have so much more personality than Lily does.
And I wish they had taken some of those traits.
Like, Ren, Lily's best friend, Ren, she drinks too much,
she's, everyone thinks she's kind of a loser,
and she's like a mess loser.
And I wish that, I just wish they had kind of like,
as much as I really like Caitlin Diver,
I wish that they had kind of like moved Billy Lord over and made her
the daughter because to have it with just the movie would have made more sense to me
that way.
Yeah.
If the daughter had that kind of like impulsiveness, you know.
Yeah, but it also shits like the sort of like that character has this sort of loopy emotional
intelligence to like, you know, counterweight the other stuff.
That's true.
I mean, there's at least that, again, still a more interesting character.
Yeah, no, no, no.
A lot of rom coms are like that,
where the sidekick character is like the funny one
with personality.
And so I like, if you're in romantic comedy,
the sidekick role is often like the breakout role.
Like that's where you want,
you want to be like,
rooper Everett and by best friends wedding, right?
Right.
It's like, you want to be the sidekick,
but the, it just leaves you off with a main character
who is not, and I guess Lily's not the main hiter, but you leave with a pivotal character
who doesn't have a lot going on.
Yeah.
Yeah, so Get A takes David on kind of a tour of the farm and David tries to scare Get A
off, saying his daughter is going to get sick of this lifestyle.
But then it's also revealed that this farm sells to Whole Foods, which is only wild because the farm doesn't seem that big,
and it almost never seems like anyone's working.
That's the thing. The seaweed really farms itself. All they seem to do is gather it for like an hour
in the morning and then the rest of the day's, but on the other hand, they might not be working
as hard since this is his wedding weekend. That's true. That's true.
There is a scene where a character refers to Julia Roberts as looking like a very attractive
horse, which was a little weird.
I enjoyed that scene for Julia Roberts playing of it.
It was like she really, it's a scene where, you know, she is
throwing off kind of any sort of movie star ego and just being like complimented in this
insulting way and her sort of like polite acceptance of it was very funny to me.
So, and then David and George, it turns out that they're staying at a nearby resort,
which looks kind of similar to where the farm.
And of course, he and George are staying in rooms that are right next to each other, which
is kind of interesting because they booked all their travel completely separately.
So it's interesting that they ended up being right next to each other.
It doesn't really matter.
I think they might have used the same travel agent.
It's called Divorce's who should be together travel.
Yeah.
They hook you up with all the things that are necessary to get you back together again.
It's called parent trap travel.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a, if you were to do that,
I feel like there'd be a lot of fun in creating a travel agent character
who's just really into trying to set people up. Yeah, that'd be really funny.
Okay, so David can't sleep. So he ends up at the hotel bar and Ren shows up and they have a
not on romantic catch-up scene, which I appreciate it. This was honestly, this was I think my favorite
scene in the entire. I'm such a fucking sucker for
Hotel bars and George Clooney's hotel bar scene in out of sight is like one of the sexy scenes. Yeah, I love that shit
What I really liked about this was that
George Clooney is feels like they both feel like real people here. It feels like oh, this is a conversation between a
guy who has regrets, who isn't really
sure of what's going on in his life or what's going on with his daughter.
And his daughter's friend who feels like a daughter to him as well, who he's very close
to, but who he can speak to a little more openly because she's not his daughter.
And the fact is, he's so charismatic and so handsome that I was worried they might end
up sleeping together.
And that didn't happen.
And because her character is kind of like, I'll drink anything.
I'll sleep with anybody.
Yeah, yeah.
But the fact that didn't happen and the scene ended and it was like, oh, this felt like
the kinds of thing that happens when people meet up with each other at weddings and are
just kind of around each other and they open up in honest ways.
I thought it was a really great scene.
Yeah, it was great.
And it, like it made me wish that there was,
so George Clooney does a lot to explain
his motivation at different times.
Like he talks about how he had bought a plot of land
and he was building a dream house for him
in Georgia to live in and then it burned down.
And I would have liked a little more background
because he doesn't have, he doesn't
have a person in his life.
And I would have liked a little more background on like, has he not dated anyone in the 20
audience since his divorce or had he had every single relationship in sabotage because he
is still clinging to this like fantasy of his past relationship.
I don't know.
I'm reading too much into this movie. No, but I think you're doing it. It's the kind of reading that the movie could have done a little bit more of and it would have elevated the whole thing
because as it is, it does feel like these characters are born the moment the movie starts
and then their backstories filled in as necessary and it's like almost they're remembering those things
as they need to as opposed to these we us finding it up these people at this moment
their lives when they've lived, you know, for X many years beforehand.
But also at least he gets that I don't even think Julia Roberts gets as much development.
No, the closest she gets to that is when she talks very briefly about being a mom after the
divorce. And that's about it.
And she gets very little to sketch in her, who she is.
Yeah, and the daughter keeps talking about how amazing her parents are, particularly the mom.
And we believe it, because it's Julia Roberts, but the movie doesn't do that.
This movie, more than most things we watch really coast along on the fact
that like these are people that you like.
And I think that's part of its strategy, but it does it too much.
I mean, it's the benefit of that's why you cast George Clooney and Julie Roberts or something
like this.
It's what Alfred Hitchcock would do.
And he would cast actors.
He'd say, I'm casting Jimmy Stewart because he brings with him the Jimmy Stewart study
was in other movies.
I'm casting Carrie Grant because you already know who he is as soon as he shows up on
screen.
But even there, they would give you like a little bit of the, a little bit more meat for
the characters in here yet.
It's just, there's not a lot of, especially for Julia Roberts.
Yeah, it's like you cast Vin Diesel.
So you're getting Dominic Torredo.
You're getting Zander Cage.
You're getting the last witch hunter.
You're getting all these, you're getting
a pitch black. You're getting all these guys. That was his name. He was like, there were
later sequels to that movie that were just his name. And yet, his name is dumb. His name
is pretty, right? That's a dumb. He's a furion. He was in love with Kyra, but she died.
I'm sorry. I'm trying to remember the song,
Heart of the Furion by Dyer Parall,
which lists all this shit.
And when you write, and you also get bloodshot when you cast him,
a lot of people forget it.
You get it all, you get the whole, the whole thing.
That's why you cast Vindy's own things.
You know, I want to cast him to like be a guy who can tie ties realistically.
And I wonder if they're trying for that with Caitlin Dever too, but she, because this character
fits in a lot with a previous characters, she's had another movie.
Yeah.
But I feel like she doesn't automatically bring that with her quite the same way because
it's not that, you know, I just had the years to do it.
Yeah.
Like Max Fun, Max Fun founder, Jesse Th fund, uh, max fund founder Jesse Thorn. He recently
was hanging out with him and he was reminding me of an old SNL sketch that Jack Handy wrote.
The George Clooney is in is about tales of, like, railroad management, malfeasance or something
like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, malfeasance and railroad hiring practices. And this is sketch from 30 years ago. And
George Clooney, when I watched it again, I was like, he looks so young. I forget. I think
of him now as like an older handsome guy, but before that, he was a young handsome
guy.
And that's what informs the older handsome guy.
And like, she just doesn't have enough of that built up yet for her to automatically
bring the character with her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the next morning, David convinces Georgia to steal the wedding rings from a child and she
uses a trick where she explains in America, we slice bananas before we peel them.
I don't know how this trick works.
Well, okay.
Well, you need a, you need a, you need a sonic brain.
You need a needle and thread.
There's a, it's an old, she uses a sonic gun that you'd use to break up a kidney stone
and she just hits the banana with it.
Well, she doesn't need the gun.
She can just do the sonic boom that guile doesn't street fighter.
Yeah. Oh yeah, this is an old quote unquote
Magic trick you would find in like a kid's magic book where you do like a couple of dance looking at me right now
Like I'm some dumb kids
He's like the the discussed with which Dan is applying the word magic to this like the ghost of Ricky J is like
Inside dance had being like you make sure this is not real magic
Most of Ricky J is like inside Dan's head being like, you make sure this is not real magic.
Well, I'll tell you why.
This is like a terrible.
Yeah, you use a needle and thread.
You basically like pass a thread through.
So the thread is cutting the banana inside the peel.
You're essentially coroning the banana in its own skin.
You get a couple of holes.
Pretty cool.
Because of it.
And if you know anything about a banana,
if you damage the peel, it will brown
up right away. So this, this gagged banana, this tricked banana, will look like it's not,
it's not obvious that they're a bunch of fucking holes. But it's not like the banana browns
up instantly like Dorian Gray crumbling to dust.
Yeah, I like it. I just don't know fucking goblet.
We did Julia Roberts.
That's the way it's like.
It's like she's carrying around a divided banana and her luggage like the banana.
She has a sewing kit.
She did it moments before.
Moments before.
I'm saying that banana would be brown.
No, no.
It's a key of banana and you set it out to eat.
It's not like it instantly turns brown. It takes a little bit of time. Brown. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Congratulations.
Now that I've got the...
Now that Georgia is stolen the magic rings, I think it delays the wedding ceremony a little
bit and buys them a little bit more time to break up this couple.
So then they go swimming with dolphins, one of them bites David in the leg and he has a
real meltdown about it. And we already
can tell that Get a believes that David and Georgia stole the rings and are doing are up
to no good. They're up to mischief. David tries to play dumb. Georgia keeps lily busy,
but Get a doesn't tell lily suspicions, which is not cool. You should be more open and honest
with this stuff. I mean, he should, that I understand that he's trying to preserve the relationship
of her and her parents because she would be so mad if she knew what they were doing.
Next morning, George and David are woken up early to help bring in the seaweed crop alone.
Again, they're the only people out there. They get to have
a little fight flirt, and nothing more romantic than picking seaweed together.
Yeah. It becomes competitive because they're both, you know, alphas, they're high functioning
people. No type A's, yeah. Then they watch get a get his teeth filed down.
Now, there's a couple different things. And now I don't know anything about
down. Now, there's a couple different things. And now, I don't know anything about a Bollinis or Indonesian wedding practices, but they go to a couple different, like, rights
of passage for the wedding. And I'm curious, I guess I could do the research. How much of
it is real stuff and how much of it is not real stuff, because if it's not real stuff,
then they're, then they are making up things. But it makes real stuff. I don't know.
I've never heard of it before. So then they go to ease the pain.
They all go out and drink moonshine and play beer pong.
This leads to a lot of dancing and they dance embarrassingly two songs that I remember
growing up with as a kid.
So it made me feel very old.
Yeah.
Now, because Stuart, these are the songs that we listened to as kids and they would have
heard as 20 stuff things. So at least one of these are the songs that we listened to as kids and they would have heard as 20 somethings.
So at least one of these songs, I think it was jump by House of Pain.
I have done a single, everybody.
Now, Dan, are you going to ask me how I felt about this because of my, I'm on record
as hating scenes where actors are just dancing.
Here's something to tell you.
Well, no, wait, hold on.
I was going to ask it.
Let me ask it in my way, but the great mind-meld
Elliott. So I watched it and I was thinking like, okay, I know Elliott hates stuff that's
just like, see how much of a good time we had. Yeah.
You know, and I understand that in many situations, in this case, because of all that history with these actors, and the
movie is absolutely coasting on this, it is not about like, oh, these characters are cutting
loose, it's like, isn't it fun? You're seeing Clooney and Julia Roberts, Actronk, Play
Beer Pong, and Dance Around, real silly, you know, like, that's what this is being sold
on. Like, it was fun to me. And
I still I enjoyed it. I understand how it could be a rejection, but I was like, don't
wonder what Elliott thinks about it. I want you to ask me because I did enjoy this part,
but I'll tell you why, because to me, this was the character I've seen this paint. It is the
characters dancing this way. They are those characters with their shared history, getting drunk,
and having a moment where they are deliberately embarrassing their daughter by dancing in a way that I can fully relate
to as a parent because I love to embarrass my children.
And so it was like, it wasn't just like someone.
If you already picked out the like stain, tidy whiteies, you're going to wear to answer
the door when your son starts to bring dates home.
No, that's a brilliant idea.
I can be doing that. I got to pre-stain them with just like, you know, also like wood wood, like something No, that's a brilliant idea. I can be doing that.
I got to pre-stain them with just like, you know, also like wood wood, like something
you would say to deck with, yeah.
Yeah.
So this, for me in this moment, it wasn't, oh, everyone on the in the cast is having a dance
party now, Lily's dancing, now Ren is dancing.
It was the two of them, those two characters having fun dancing and the younger characters
being embarrassed by it. And I was like, yeah, I like this. I like seeing these two, I like seeing these characters having fun dancing and the younger characters being embarrassed
by it. And I was like, yeah, I like this. I like seeing these two, I like seeing these
characters having fun in this way. I'm sure I like seeing Julia Roberts and George
Clooney having fun in some way. But I think the fact that it was partly for a story purpose
and a character purpose made it for me where I was like, okay, I do enjoy this. This is
a funny thing as opposed to like, hey, we had such a great time making this movie.
Right. Don't you wish you were here, you know?
No, no, it fits in the movie. And I guess I was too extreme in the way I put it.
Like, I don't think that, like, it does work on a character level. Like, it makes sense
in the movie at this place. And that's, like, it doesn't feel like just a fuck around
that they like, it's time to keep in.
But if the movie ended, if the movie ended as the movie nailed, Slice Accident to Love does it.
With a wedding scene where it's just all the actors dancing with each other, then I would
have been like, shut this movie down and did already.
I don't need to see this, you know?
But I do think that like a big part of it is like, if these were other actors doing this,
it wouldn't have the same charge as like,
oh, look at our Hollywood royalty, like what we have as Hollywood royalty these days,
like you fucking are.
You say that, but if it was Julia Benotian, Stellan Skarsgard, I think you'd be pretty,
you'd be pretty, pretty, and pretty.
Yeah, you'd be pretty, pretty.
So they drink a little too much, and George and David wake up in bed together,
very hungover. But they insist nothing happened. Although, you know, they're a little uncomfortable.
And especially so because they're in George's room and who arrives first thing in the morning,
that's right. It's Paul, George's boyfriend. They make a big hullabaloo about trying to trick him
into thinking he was somebody else's room.
That they switched rooms.
But he like it's kind of no point.
I want to call figures that call something out here that annoyed me and I also saw that.
Go for it. This is the perfect venue for them.
Yeah, our friend Matt Singer also made this point on his letterbox review.
But like, you know, he has to put on some pants.
And so he puts on Julia Roberts' characters, yoga pants.
And she's like, and he's like, they're too tight.
You know, and he's like, they're yoga pants, I'll stretch.
And then you see him in the next scene, he's wearing these baggy.
They're like, they're like, they're like, they're like,
they're like, hey, room pants.
And like, the gag would be, the joke would be put,
Cluey and Spandex, like, put him in some like,
Lulu Lund, our Cluey and Spandex like put him in some like blue little
lunch. I'm cluity. Yeah. I want to see that ship flopping around. Just cluity it up.
Yeah. I mean, it just doesn't look weird that he's wearing these pants at all. I didn't
clunk down my hard earned money for a fucking peacock subscription to not see George Cluity's
fucking stuff smashed into a tiny pair of yoga pants.
Yeah, yoga toe.
What Stu says.
Wait, yoga toad?
Yeah, yoga toasters.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's one version of yoga hoses, which was more prop profit.
One of the yoga.
It would have to be.
Most people didn't know it was a parody.
That was the thing.
They just thought it was a straightforward porn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's like airplane in zero hour.
People don't know the source material.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Okay, so they end up doing a little family trip.
And David bulls ahead like he's a dad and makes them all go on a trip to a temple that
is bad luck to visit to if you are an unmarried couple. Now this is a real temple. I don't know a temple that is bad luck to visit to if you are an
unmarried couple. Now, this is a real temple. I don't know if it's really bad luck to visit
if you're unmarried. At the temple, Paul decides to propose to Georgia,
which again, don't fucking do this shit. Don't propose to people at, don't propose to
somebody at someone else's fucking wedding. That's their function, dude. Let them have
their moment. Save it.
Take her on a different, you're a pilot.
You can take her anywhere in the world.
Okay.
But that works.
Yeah, nonetheless.
Well, it's not too far.
Like I think we're in between.
Yeah.
So Paul, yeah, guys, I'm known for having a gift of hyperbole.
Yeah.
Sometimes people, sometimes I think it's a curse.
Yeah, hyperbole is the muse that you that you worship and who gifted you with with your talents.
Yeah. Again, sometimes it occurs. Sometimes, you know, a pile of sure.
The ancient Greek story of stew, who was cursed with the gift of hyperbole.
One time he walked into an ancient Greek diner and unfortunately ordered 10,000
eggs.
I would eat every one of them because a, they're very expensive now and b, a great source
of protein, you know?
Yeah.
And you can do so many different things with an egg.
Yeah.
Scrambled.
You walk in scotchet.
Egg council commercial, I don't understand where we are.
Yeah, I mean, if we could get sponsored by an egg council, so if you have more eggs,
if you have eggs, you can sponsor us.
Yeah, eggs, if you're listening, please consider sponsoring the flat pass.
If you heard a desperation in my voice during the Max Von drive, it's because I need more
eggs.
Okay, so they're at this temple.
He proposes the Georgia.
She is immediately nervous.
We all knew this was happening.
She was not going to be into it.
But before she can respond, he gets bitten by a venomous steak and they have to rush him
to the hospital and the whole family's there.
She has to suck the poison out and it had the gag that I've always wanted to be in it where
like her lips then get like numb and she seems woozy.
Like they don't do anything with that.
She seems fine.
The next thing I always just the idea of Julie Roberts being poisoned by a snake is terrifying.
It's hilarious.
It's traumatic.
The idea that that could happen to America's sweetheart.
Yeah.
Unless it was her character from my best friend's wedding, who's basically a villain, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure, sure.
Yeah. She's a a villain, right? Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, she's a bad guy.
Yeah.
Okay, so the family's kind of divided when Lily finds out her mother was proposed to
she's like, that guy, he's boring.
And David tries to put on a brave face like he has in many situations in this movie, but
you know it's bothering him.
And she doesn't respond.
So David goes ahead with Lily and
get a on the next part of their trip, which Georgia quickly follows them on. Though it's
a little weird because they end up going to a more remote island, I guess. And David
forgets or just is unable to successfully tie up get a boat, which then floats away.
To be honest, why is David being given the job of tying up the boat?
That doesn't make it. Yeah, I mean get a is already suspicious of him. Um, so the boat floats away. And then and Georgia showed up right around
That's what she gets this boat floats. Oh, well, I mean most boats float. So it's not really made out of hope. I just made that
A big thing to say. That's attracts more of me not a witch.
Like if I was showing about my first question, wouldn't be does it float?
Because I was not even left.
And I guess because his first question would be does it float?
So they really, I guess so they end up getting stranded.
It's David Georgia, Lily and get a they get stranded in the jungle and they realize that they're
going to have to spend the night out there camping, which seems a little extreme, but everybody's
kind of okay with it.
I mean, they are very quickly talking about killing a pig and blushing at the guys go
out and hunt this pig.
And I got to say that I honestly sort of think this movie is better at a romance
between Clooney and the groom than yeah, between Clooney and Julia Roberts. Like I get
the sense of like how he warms up to this guy over time in a way that I don't really understand
why they get back together. And also, and also you can tell the actor playing get a really
once George Clooney to like him. Like even when he's like disappointed in him, there's still this feeling of like, the
workable, right?
Like George Clooney, you know, so I think, I think to be honest, George Clooney's like,
if we're cool, we're cool.
It's fine.
It's his movie was not nothing, nothing against really Roberts, but if this movie was George
Clooney and his perspective, son and law out in the jungle bonding while they get lost.
Like that's a, that could be a really funny movie. Yeah. So while they're on the ball of love and he breaks up the
wedding by marrying the group. Well, while they're hunting a page, it's okay. His daughter
is terrible. Oh, okay. In this version of the movie, yeah. Lilly is searching for matches
in her mom's bag and she finds the stolen rings. So we have a big, just a little rings.
Everyone here cut banana.
Everyone kind of airs their concerns and fears, all their grievances.
And at the end of the day, it just kind of brings everybody closer.
The next morning.
The fact is that, yeah, they're talking out, yeah, they're talking out the problems a little bit.
Yeah, that's good.
So that's a healthy way to deal with things instead of lying about everything.
So stealing, cutting bananas and weird unnatural layers that Dan does not approve.
I just don't agree with you.
Just not a magic.
That's, yeah.
Because when you use magic, there's a cost.
And in this case, it burned up some of her goodwill with her daughter.
Yeah.
Okay.
By the way, if you, here's a little teaser for the guys, you don't know anything
about it yet.
But I'll say it now for the, you and the listeners.
If you like me talking passionately about magic, you're going to want to watch that streaming
show that we did for the bellhouse.
Anyway.
The movie magic starring Anthony Hopkins as a, as a eventually a ventralist. Magic Mike, etc. Okay.
So the next morning, I just I just I hate to trip you more, but the idea that magic has
a cost that like Julie Roberts is like to steal those rings.
I'm gonna have to fake that I cut a banana inside the peel.
It's gonna take three days off the end of my life, but you know what?
All magic has a cost and I've got to pay it.
That's yeah, that's the bill is gonna come eventually.
Yeah. Okay. So the next morning, David is watching the sunrise and he revealed to Georgia
that he never sold the land that he had attempted to build their dream house on. And then they
exchange a little kiss before realizing, no, this isn't for us. Also at this point, I'm
like, there's still 30 minutes in the movie.
So they end up not getting together.
Yeah, the rest is just one very long sex scene between George Clooney and Julio Roberts,
30 minutes long.
I mean, that's a, that's a decent scene like a 10 bucks in that PPV.
Yeah, I mean, it would, it would make it instantly one of the most successful movies
ever made.
Yeah.
Um, so the blue is the warmest color style. I mean, very movies ever made. Yeah. So the blue is the warmest color style, very extreme sexy.
Yeah.
There's so little socks and movies these days, that would be interesting if we just chose
one a year that had all of the sex.
Like, let's get in.
I mean, here's the thing, Dan, here's the thing, Dan, there's plenty of access to sex videos.
I know.
That's not the same fucking thing, Dan.
I'm not talking about that. That's not the same fucking thing to me. I'm talking about the same.
That's a talk about you.
Not the same, yeah.
Yeah, the argument that pornography is available, so we shouldn't show any chemistry or sex
in movies.
Well, that's not what I'm saying.
No, I know.
I'm just putting words in your mouth.
When normally words come out of your mouth at a rapid speed, it's much, somewhat safe.
Yeah, that's why I'm trying to put some of them back in.
It's probably not extra words in to back. Yeah, it's probably actually worth
in to close the mouth to keep it blocked up.
The more words can come out.
He's worried that like when Ant Man gets big,
you know, like there's so much energy expended.
You got to eat when you come back down to that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Sure, yeah.
It's not so sort of deparized and junk shot.
Reason to fill my mouth with crap words.
Yeah, stop the spill.
So they end up back at the resort.
Lily puts her foot down that she is getting married and her parents are either on it,
on board or not.
Paul again tries to propose to Georgia and he does the old classic bit where he stands up
too fast from being on his knees and he bangs his head into her nose. This is the kind of thing that doesn't cause any last damage.
When you're in a relationship where you spend a lot of time physically close to someone,
you do end up bumping into them a bunch. And then David tips the, and then David tips
the, I just say, so just want to say this is something that this is a realistic touch in
the movie that every now and then every now and then you might bump into somebody that you close to.
Yeah.
So I don't know how meanwhile David is swimming in the pool fully clothed and he tips the
bell hop with a wet bill, which I'm like, in Indonesia, do they like, I don't, maybe
I was just assuming that they had like similar bills to like Australia or New Zealand.
That's that like plasticgy stuff that doesn't get wet and soggy.
Again, don't know enough about Indonesian currency.
Okay. So let's follow that under the possibly a goof. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Right. It's a new, not very popular section of, of IMDB. Yeah. It's actually, I
feel like it would be super popular because people are always anything could go in there.
Well, that's that's on SMDB Schrodinger's movie database, where it could be a goof or
could be not be a goof until we find out we won't know for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So everybody is supposed to SMMDB, which is a different database.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, but people are really more popular.
Mouth.
Very much more popular, yeah.
So everybody gets over their bullshit and time to see Lily and get a get married.
The ceremony is very colorful and there is no mischief at all.
Get a even gives David a chance to object and he doesn't.
He turns it into a way to puff everybody up.
But then what does Lily pull?
I don't fucking remember.
I'm only watching movies twice.
Lily does, he's about to, he's
about to stab a hanker chiff with a knife to seal the marriage and she goes, wait, and
everyone stops and he gets this look on his face like, oh no, the groom does. And she
goes, just kidding. And if I was the groom, I would have been like, this wedding is off.
Good bye. I love you. And I cannot handle that. You know how vulnerable I am right now. There's been too much mischief already. Okay. So everybody's happy. Georgia says no to
Paul who takes it. Okay, actually. David and Georgia board the ferry back to the airport and they
reconnect and they're like, you know what? Let's just stay in Bali. And then they jump off the boat,
jump off the boat. And the movie, they jump off the boat.
And they just say, I just stay in Bali,
which is good, because the rage virus is all over the rest.
It's right.
By this point it's spread, yeah.
Right, you're like a cagin.
Yeah.
And this is when you, I always realize,
how rich these characters are,
because it's not just that they stay
at this very fancy hotel, but they're like,
you know what, let's just do it.
And they jump off the boat, not worrying
that their phones will get wet,
because who cares? They'll just buy another phone. Yeah, I don't know. They're like, you know what? Let's just do it. And they jump off the boat, not worrying that their phones will get wet. Because who cares?
They'll just buy another phone.
Yeah.
I don't know.
They're old.
Maybe they still have like flip phones.
Yeah.
And they're going to like arrange for like,
I guess all of their stuff to be moved to them there
rather than going home first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They'll just have it packed up and they'll
instantly buy a house and Bali.
Yeah.
I mean, like George Clooney's just going to get a job
at like a beach bar. And you know what? He would be fucking incredible.
He would be great at that. Now, and then they don't show, I don't, they don't show the
moment when, when Lily and Getty are like, wait, but we're about to have our honeymoon
here. Why are your parents just sticking around? That's part two ticket to paradise to. I
will say to take it to the ticket to VIA number two. I do think it is the power of
or to get to paradise.
Two get to paradise.
And then it would be
take it to paradise three instead
of the E two get to paradise.
First one or the second one
rather.
Sorry Dan.
No, I think it does show the power
of movie stars that like this
ending where they're like sort of like
tentatively like holding hands of the boat and seeing like if they're like sort of like tentatively like holding hands
of the boat and seeing like if they're ready to like like I found it moving but it's great.
That's a great moment. Yeah. But it's also like me like as a man who is now middle-aged like
tearing up at the idea of like new directions in your life, new starts, all that, having a shot and changing your life,
and not that I'm unhappy right now, but I've been through life changes.
I'm bringing a lot to that, the movie isn't bringing.
It's me plus the star power and the rest of the film.
Actually, I just got a text from old Parker.
He says, no, that was his plan.
Oh, you're reading text and not something.
Dan, is this like the time when you saw your reflection in a snow covered hill with
a landslide coming down?
Yeah.
That's exactly like that.
No, but I mean, you know, it's, I mean, I felt genuinely moved and then they jumped off
the boat and I'm like, oh, come on.
So they're going to do it this way. Oh, it broke the spell. It broke the spell. Well'm like, oh, come on. So they got to do it this way.
Oh, it broke the spell.
It broke the spell.
Well, well, it's me, old Parker.
I'm calling in now.
Uh, uh, uh, Dan, I wanted to end the movie with them holding hands.
And then of course, a big, the end.
Bap-bap-bap.
Like the old way we used to do it in the old ways,
but they said they wanted them to jump off a boat.
And I said, well, you're the boss is I'm just the director.
I'm not in charge. The studio heads in charge. And he could black to jump off a boat. And I said, well, you're the bosses. I'm just the director.
I'm not in charge.
The studio heads in charge.
And he could blacklist me in a moment.
So, uh, and say by saying I'm a communist.
So I'll just do what he says and keep my whole park
or park or make it move.
Don't you have, I thought you insisted on final cut
for this one?
Oh, well, no, I insist on final cut for all the bananas
that I, you know, I want to cut them inside the bill,
but not too soon because they turn pretty brown.
You don't want to eat a banana that's too rotten, you know?
I want to, you know, a freeze frame that said David and whatever Julia Roberts character's
name is, we'll return and to get to paradise.
And to get to paradise three.
That's right.
The sequel will be both the second and the third movie in the series.
Part of the innovations we're trying to bring to this franchise.
And then of course we do the fourth one, which is called Forkett to Paradise Slash 56 days
later, which is 28 days later times two.
And we'll finally combine these movies in the shared universe that they're in.
So Stuart, I don't know if you're aware of this, but the movie also ended with some bloopers.
And I turned it off immediately.
I wanted to say about the bloopers that, for a romantic comedy that is both light on
the rom and the calm, there are certain takes in the bloopers that I'm like, why was it,
like that's a funnier take?
Yes, I think it's a usable funnier take.
Why didn't you use that?
The bloopers really pointed towards a slightly funnier movie.
Yeah.
And it seemed like it was like, I guess if you just let it Clooney and Julia Roberts
hang out, it would probably be a charming hero.
Well, that's like during the press tour, anytime the two of them would be seated and chairs
next to each other, I'm like, I'll watch this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, speaking of ways, let's give our final judgments about whether you should watch
this, I mean, or not, like even whatever
we say, it doesn't have the effect.
I'm glad Danny clarified that this is not a legally binding order.
We will not show up at your home.
Dan's like, what's the point of seeing you winning right here?
Dan, we just banged down their door.
Why the fuck aren't you watching tickets a paradise right now?
You have no excuse.
Final judgments, this is a good bad movie,
a bad, bad movie, a movie kind of liked.
I gotta say, like, ultimately, I did kind of like it.
Like, it's the least a movie can be
while still being kind of enjoyable.
Like, I, to pull back the curtain a bit,
I am moving right now.
So, I was not paying the utmost attention at all points
to take it to paradise because I had other business that will need to be attended to
because tomorrow is literally moving day. Dan was busy filling crates with straw and
then nailing the top shot. Yeah. And honestly, if you are in a similar situation, this is
the alien idols. This is the ideal kind of movie to watch,
because you will always know what is going on.
And every once in a while, you'll look over
and you just see your movie buddies,
George and Julia hanging out together,
and it'll give you a smile.
And you're like, I bet this vacation
was super fun for them.
Yeah, it's just a mile, I mildly liked it.
I didn't have, I didn't feel negatively towards the movie other than feeling like it was just
sort of bland. What do you say it's to? No, I'm on, I'm kind of on the same boat as you
like. It's, it's a very pretty movie to look at. It is not, it's not going to challenge you
in any way. You don't have to think too hard about how
you feel about the characters. There's not really any twists and or turns. Yeah, it's basically
like a bath of a movie. So if you want to take a long bath and watch a movie, take a paradise.
Yeah, I can't say it's a movie that I liked,
but it also, I feel similarly, it's a real comfort food,
easy going, sit down and just kind of let the movie
take you through jungles to beach's type of movie.
It's not, it's, everything you guys say.
And this was Australia, where this was shot?
In Australia, yeah.
Okay, time to book my trip. Hopefully I'll run into George and Julia since they stuck around, right? You guys. And this was Australia, where this was shot in Australia. Yeah.
Okay, time to book my trip.
Hopefully I'll run into Georgia, and Julia, since they stuck around, right?
Yeah.
I mean, they stayed at the end.
They jumped off that boat.
Yeah.
Listeners, give me a list of things I need to do when I go to Queensland, Queensland,
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The Queensland, yeah.
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And the first letter is from Brian Lestane with Held, who writes?
Blessed.
Hi, floppers.
Oh, wow, Brian.
Blessed, then you got to read in the cool voice. Yeah, I got. Oh, wow, bruh. Blessed.
Then you got to read in the cool voice.
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Dan, 100% are trying, a for effort.
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And glad you stopped before you blew out your throat trying to start like my blessing.
The recent discussion of the podcast, repeated discussions of a goofy movie made me think of a scene.
I was just talking about this the other day.
I still haven't seen that.
Maybe I made me think of a scene from the film that always sticks out to my mind.
Max said his dad goofy are playing 20 questions in the car.
Goofy says man or woman, max size, it says man, to which goofy immediately and correctly
guesses Walt Disney.
This is akin to playing Guess Who With Your Dead and his car has the true
a noble name of God on it.
It truly brings up some horrifying implications.
My question is, do you have any favorite or least favorite instances
of breaking the fourth wall?
Also, Stu, you should watch a goofy movie.
Keep it always brine last thing with him.
He's in the room.
Gotcha.
Yeah, one of my bartenders yesterday was so angry that I had not seen a goofy movie
and she was just quoting lines from the movie, which was funny because I'm like, I couldn't
tell if this was real or made up because I haven't seen it yet.
Yeah.
It was either a very impressive improv or it was just, it was actual recollection.
I mean, I want fans of the, listeners the show, please let us know.
Do you want us to do an episode on the goofy movie at this point?
At this time, first of all, I know you guys like it.
It's a real touchstone for the generation that's like what, 10 years younger than us.
But what's, yeah, goofy movie, should we do it?
Let us know.
Okay. So least favorite, bring the fourth wall, all of Deadpool. Okay, Dan, what about you?
Oh, yeah, but do you have a most favorite or are you just choosing to do the least favorite?
I was just starting off with fine. I figured we're just, this is like a like a jam session where
we're just going to like, yeah, I was going to say that one one breaking of the fourth wall that I
like is I remember there's one point in one breaking of the fourth wall that I like is I remember
there's one point in trading places where the brothers are being very condescending to
A. Murphy.
And he just like the one example of breaking the fourth wall in the entire movie is him
making a face to the audience.
And it's all the more powerful just this like this other lies entirely traditional narrative
film. Elliott, what do you got?
I like the bit in the funny games remake where where something good seems to happen.
They're like, nope.
We want in your face.
Like, fuck you.
You wanted a good thing to happen.
Forget it. Hannah, you don't play that way. I have a lot of favorite
fourth wall memories to be honest. I feel like that's one of the reasons that
Gremlins 2 was such a like pivotal movie for me growing up was that it kept
pushing the the boundaries of what it could do as a movie that exists. And then
finally, when the Gremlins break the film and are just like in the theater with you making shadow
puppets and in raging Usher Paul Bartell to the point that he goes and gets Hulk Hogan
to scare them away like that. And that's something that and then when the movie was on.
I do like that Hulk Hogan waited until the Usher got him to get involved.
Yes, because he was curious whether that was the show or not.
And that when they released the movie on video, they re-did that segment to have it be them
changing channels while you're watching the film.
That was something that really blew my mind as a kid, which I still love.
That's a fourth-while breaking moment, right?
I just remembered one that I like even more that in the Muppet movie where they meet the
electric mayhem and they start explaining what happened, like their story.
Can we read the screenplay?
And they're like, oh, you know, like we can't do that.
We can't explain what's happened so far.
We'll board the audience.
Just have them read the screenplay.
Actually, I have another favorite one.
It's in the game Metal Gear Solid,
when Psycho Manus starts reading the contents
of your memory card and he's like,
you like Castlevania, you don't, you know what I'm like?
I did play Castlevania.
This guy is psychic.
Wow. Another one. Castlevania games are the new, you know, I'm like, I did play Castlevania. This guy is psychic. Wow.
Yeah, another one.
Guys, the Game's are the new movies.
Get on board.
Or let's see if he does.
I have to use the new novels.
Video game is the new movies.
And mine is the new pop song, which is interesting.
So the another one is this is a movie that has not aged as well for me as
Gremlins II, but the scene in Space Balls where they need to find the heroes.
So they get the video of Space Balls. And they're watching it and they
go through the part where dark helmet gets hurt and he goes, race that part. They never
watch that part again. Like that, that was a joke that I was really liked.
Yeah. Okay, well, the second and final letter is from Eve spelled in the French manner with a YVES.
Oh.
Last name withheld rights.
Like Saint Laurent.
Favorite Warhammer movie.
Hello, peaches.
My friends and I.
My friends that I like to watch movies that share themes or plot points with Warhammer
while we paint our miniatures.
A good guiding principle is if the movie could be described as, quote,
grim dark, a term coined in an early Warhammer rulebook describing how, quote, in the grim
darkness of the far future, there is only war. I love any time.
Hammers.
Well, anytime that Stewart has an excuse to talk hammy, So I figured I would write into ask each of your
favorite movies that share themes with Warhammer. A few examples of movies we have watched recently are
Adventure Rising, the name of the Rose, and Mad God. Anyway, I hope that makes it clear enough,
and if it's, if not, I'm sure Stewart can point you in the right direction. Love you guys, Eve.
I'm going to let Stewart point me in the right direction. Yeah, point us in the right direction.
There's some obvious ones like like dread or starship troopers or let's see.
Would you say would Mandy fall under that category or no?
Maybe, maybe a little.
That's a little, I mean, I feel like that's a little more psychological than Warhammer
stuff, gentlemen.
Maybe. I think there's a little bit there. Man, that's tough. I feel like a lot of sci-fi movies kind of air on
the side of like Grim Dark, and I'm probably fucking forgetting a bunch of good ones. Valhalla
Rising is a good one. That kind of shit. What about Johnny Numanik? Yeah, maybe it's again,
that's need to be more Numanik. That's a little more cyber punky. But yeah, I can see
it is like depending on like if you're painting some stuff that's like from like a Necromanter
gang or an inquisitorial written new. Okay. Perfect sense. Or the movie Dragon Slayer, you know, that kind of shit.
Oh, Dragon Slayer, a favorite for my childhood.
Great effects, great special effect.
Classic IELM stuff.
Let's go on to.
You know the movie Conquest, the Fantasy movie, Italian fantasy movie?
I don't know that one.
Oh, okay, it's a luchiofulgy fantasy movie.
I bet that was fine. I don't know. Where are they, it's a luchiofulchy fantasy movie. I bet that was fun.
I don't know.
Where are they conquesting the planet of the apes?
No, just a fantasy world.
Okay.
That's the thing you're thinking of conquests
to the planet of the apes.
You're saying story.
So it's not like a movie based on the villain
from the Invincible comic book that like rips
the main character's spine out or something.
No, I don't think so.
That's a violent comic book, dude.
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
I don't know why you're mad at me.
I'm just saying you want it.
I mean, I have my own violent comics, but you know.
Let's move on to recommendations of letters of letters.
So letters we've loved in the long term.
You're violent.
You're violent. Let's look at the letters that we we've loved in the long. You're following the limitations.
Let's, let's look at the letters that we,
unfortunately lost this year.
In Memorium.
A letter E.
Um, that's an important letter.
There's no big thing if it letter died.
Yeah, one of the, it's very personal to me.
I use that letter every day.
And will the mainstream media cover his death?
No.
No, well, not the way, not how it happened
anyway. It stands for entertainment, right? Well, only if there's an explanation point afterwards,
and it's on a mic cube at a red carpet for me. Only if, only if Charles is in front of it and
cheese is behind it. So you say the restaurant's called Charles E. Cheese. Yeah, that's what Androgy is all about.
So sorry, let's recommend movies, movies that we've seen in the likes.
Like I said, movies.
I've been busy with a lot of movie.
You've been too busy with moving for movies.
Moving, sorry, I don't think that's for sure.
I'm sure Dan has seen more movies than L.A.
We recorded two in a row and I'm in the middle of moving. Sorry. I don't think that's for sure. I'm sure Dan is seen more movies than L.A.
We recorded two in a row and I'm in the middle of moving. My brain is moving. I've been
busy. I was only able to go to the theaters twice every day. We had Max. We had Max
fun drive moving. I got sick. What else? So you cannot watch movies for the live show.
Like a lot of stuff is going on, but we did actually go out to the
theater.
Audrey was kind enough to see that I needed a break and be like, why don't we go see John
Wick for.
She's like, what's up, John?
We're just going to go for our movie.
Well, we saw it like nine in the night.
We were not going to be doing anything else at that point.
So yeah, we went and saw John Wick for it.
No big surprise. Everyone's already said
it's good. It's not recommending some. Yeah, what's your hot take on John Wick Ford?
So sleeper. My hot take is, hey, look, if you put care into stunt work and you don't chop
it all up and you shoot it real nice.
It's a good movie.
Dan, I'm gonna see it in a couple of days,
but can you, can you like break it to me?
Is how is Scott Adkins in a fat suit?
Amazing, okay.
Amazing.
I really think that like John Wick for like feels kind of like
the fury road of like shoot about moves.
Oh, high praise.
Like it has to be shooting.
Most of the viewers, one of the greatest movies ever made.
That's very high praise.
I mean, it's not quite to that level, but it has the same sort of like consistent relentless
ness and meticulous attention to like the action and just like the beautiful looking.
It's very good.
Okay. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to recommend a movie that also received a
fair amount of accolades, at least when it was first released. But I rewatched it and it also features
one of the leads of this movie. I'm going to recommend the movie Michael Clayton starring George
Clooney and also featuring a number of great performances, Sydney Pollock, his great-knit, and also my girl Tilda Swinton.
She's so good.
You're favorite.
In like super norm core, Tilda Swinton, it's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
To see her playing that norm core character and to be doing it so like, powerfully.
She's so good.
I'll just think about it sometimes, that performance.
And I'm like, what an amazing performance that was.
And Clooney, watching that movie, I was also like, how old was Clooney here?
And he's not much older than I am.
Timeless.
And there's something about it, like, I'm a sucker for movies where you have a protagonist
who is very skilled at something, but also very bad at other things.
Like somebody who is good at it.
Well, Spider-Man or like, I mean,
the one I always lean into is like Jack Aubrey
from the Master in Commander books.
Like somebody who is very talented
at one specific area of their life,
but a lot of the rest of their life,
they're a total fuck up.
And George Cleans, Michael Clayton
is a little bit like that.
Like he is a lawyer, he's very powerful,
but also that power is controlled within the firm he's in,
and his personal life is kind of a mess,
and he is brought in to fix an issue within his firm.
That problem being Tom Wilkinson.
And yeah, it's a movie that like watching it again,
I'm like, this is an adult movie.
This is like a movie for grownups, because it's not particularly flashy. You have to pay attention. There's a lot
of little nuance and details and the performance is incredible. And it just, I think it just dropped
on HBO Max. So go check out Mike gol clay 10. Yeah, that's another great movie. I'm going to
recommend a kind of a lesser and it was directed by the guy who wrote the screenplay for the Cutting Edge.
Interesting.
The Cutting Edge is a movie that had a big impression on me when I saw it in the theaters
of the kid, because it was the first time I had ever seen a movie with a non-conclusive
ending, where it was left up to you, the audience, decide whether or not they were going to win
this metal or competition or whatever.
Anyway, I'm going to recommend this this medal or competition or whatever.
Anyway, I'm going to record a movie.
That's a little bit of a smaller movie.
This movie from 1989, it's an independent film called Cammulian Street, written by, directed
by and starring, Wendell B. Harris Jr. and it is based on the true story of a con artist
from Detroit who in a, it's similar in some ways to a harder edged catch me if you can't.
He was a con artist who would pretend he pretended to be a doctor for some time, for a certain
amount of time.
He pretended to be, I think, a lawyer at one point.
He faked a kidnapping to try to get some ransom money or fake to extortion, not kidnapping.
Faked it in a blackmail type scenario.
And basically, the movie is presenting, and he was also black. And the movie is presenting this character
as someone who is finding that it is easier for him
to take on fake roles and fool the white world around him
into thinking he's something he's not.
Then it is for him to succeed through the normal channels.
But some of that might be because he is afraid
of admitting he might fail, if that happens.
And so it's a really, through the normal channels. But some of that might be because he is afraid of admitting he might fail, if that happens.
And so it's a really, I felt like thorough portrait of this very out of the ordinary character.
But it's also a pretty funny movie.
By the end of the movie, it starts getting a little disturbing because the character is
kind of pushing what he's capable of doing in terms of fooling people.
But at times, it's really funny.
And Wendellby Harris, who made the home movie and started it, is super charismatic and
fun to watch.
So that's from recommending Camillean Street.
Sorry, I just have to jump back a second to Stuart.
And get started.
It's a Stuart and he's checking, checking my, checking my mercy that by the writer of the
cutting edge, Stuart was talking about who I thought
he was talking about Tony Gilroy.
More notably right now is known for being the person behind and or let's say like right
in the zeitgeist, but many many other major pictures.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. a wonderful film, but it's a funny way to refer to. And I think and didn't he also write, oh no, Dan Gilroy, real steel, never mind, that
was Dan Gilroy's brother.
There's no reason can't say I'm the writer, say the man by the cutting edge.
But I'm still correct.
No, you are.
Look, I love the cutting edge.
I have a lot of the things really cutting edge, it's just a funny way to rank them.
Yeah, it's like what people say.
People talk about, when people talk about Martin Scorsese and I go, oh, you're the director
of Boxcar Bertha.
Everyone knows what I'm talking about.
Well, it's like how Audrey had like cable for a very specific part for childhood.
And so when she hears Wesley Snipes and Woody Haleson, she doesn't think Whiteman can't
jump.
It's all money training.
Right, right.
Maybe. And she made you watch money-train, right?
Yeah, that is a confusing movie. That's a movie that does not know what it's about.
It has like three plots and they all seem to want to like wraps up 30 minutes before the end of
the movie and you're like, I thought that was going to be a bigger thing.
But there's a train full of money, right?
There is a money-train. So on that level, it technically says.
Technically correct. Yeah,, technically, technically correct.
Yeah, the best kind of correct.
As Hermes Con, no, it's the other guy, the head bureaucrat in future, I'm going to say
anyway.
Hey, this was fun, but now it's done.
Not a good time.
So in a way, it was a lesson that all things are transitore.
Thank you, Dan. You really did achieve enlightenment recently. Yeah. Life can't just be peaks.
There must be valleys. Yeah, ups and downs. You know, in valleys and hit
belly ranches. One of the one of the ups is going to be coming up pretty soon here on the 22nd.
When we debut the stream from our live show, which you should totally tune in,
it's our first time, it's going to look super professional, you're going to be blown away,
you're like, who are these movie stars?
Those movie stars are us, just regular Joe Schmoss.
I mean, I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss.
I'm not Joe Schmoss. I'm not Joe Schmoss. I'm not Joe Schmoss. I'm not Joe Schm hope that I'm not, you know, talking about this.
I'm really excited about it. You said it's about magic. So I can only assume it's about
like your hunt for a fucking like a white load. Is there some other like Lord of the pit
or some other rare magic the gathering card? Yeah, exactly. Something is something he really
needs. It's really rare.
But then they just ended up with what a prodigal sorcerer is like.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, dingin' from one headpoint, sure.
Yeah, yeah, might as well just get a land for that.
Yeah.
But that's the flop house April 22nd.
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And then yeah, watch the video is just a total crap show of us following over and things
like that.
As long as we're talking about stuff in the future, unless something dramatic happens and we have
to change plans, the next episode will also be a romcom and we'll have Halley Haglund back on.
Everyone's favorite, my certainly my wife's favorite member of the flop house family.
I will return.
Don't worry, as you were recording, I received an email in which she was trying to make plans
for that day with me and some other people, and I reminded her, no, no, you have plans for
that day already.
Oh, okay.
Don't worry, she'll be there.
Okay, thank you.
But yeah, this has been great.
For the flop hat, well, I'll thank Alex Smith, I guess, before I say for the flop hats.
I'll thank our producer, editor, sound guy.
He writes music for us sometimes.
He's really quite a talented man, Alex Smith.
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Yeah, you know, you want cool people to like you, I get it.
Yeah, that's, it's a basic human need, goes back to the caveman.
Mm-hmm.
And that one caveman with sunglasses?
That was the first invention before fire in the wheel with sunglasses.
He goes, hmm, Augs Future so bright, Aug needs shades.
Wow.
Gary Larson's like, I can't believe these dickheads are stealing my bits.
Hey, he gave it up.
He walked away from the game, man.
Yeah, we want to make it.
We want to make it.
Cartoon about a cow, that's our prerogative.
I will say, maybe it's because I read them so many times
that I remember all of them and that it surprised us gone,
but I was doing some joke writing research
and I was like, I'd love to get some far side stuff in here
and I'm rereading far side comics
and I'm like, these are not quite as funny to me
as they once were and I wonder why that is.
Maybe it's just because that kind of off-kilter thing
is so prevalent now, I don't know.
Maybe Gary Larson just needs the right project pitch to him.
Like maybe I feel like you'd be a great pencilor
for like a Punisher book.
I would love to say, I mean,
and then Jordan can do a Predator series at one point.
I mean, like, you know, that's,
he's great.
We're talking about talent at Artis here.
I'd love to see Gary Larson do a Punisher book.
Yeah.
The Punisher is just constantly blowing away
women with B-Hive hairdo book. Yeah, the Punisher is just constantly blowing away women with beehive hair, do you?
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