The Flop House - FH Mini 120 - Coming Attractions in 2025

Episode Date: January 11, 2025

Dan looks forward to the year ahead, and asks the rest of the Flop House gang which of 2025's cinematic offerings float their cineaste boats.We’re in season 2 of FlopTV! Tune in for individual episodes, or get a price break with a season pass! Full line-up/tickets here! And while you’re clicking on stuff, subscribe to our NEWSLETTER, “Flop Secrets!”

Hi, Floppers. Before we start this episode, I just wanted to remind you we are in the middle of FlopTV Season 2. That's right, the one-hour internet televised Flophouse TV show is here for you the first Saturday of every month through February. Just go to theflophouse.simpleTix.com and get your tickets or season pass for this all-new Flophouse TV stuff. For covering movies we've never covered before, we've got video segments, it's amazing. Just go to theflophouse.simple-ticks.com for Flop TV Season 2. This time it's personal. Hey everyone, welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kalin and I'm a robot for some reason.

Oh, that's cool. Well, you know, we're trying out something different here. Normally we have Elliot as a human, but this time we have a robot Elliot because he doesn't need money. The AI Elliot is a thousand times more efficient than flesh Elliot. But don't look at his hands. Don't look at my six-fingered hands. And of course, I cannot come up with original ideas, but can only repackage things that have been said by Elliot before in the past.

R-O-C-K in the USA, beep-boop. And also, of course, it takes one full rainforest for one minute of robot Elliot. But I think it's worth it. Yes, but you weren't using that rainforest to begin with? Yeah. Hey, this is- Guys, I'm just kidding, it's me. Oh, thank God. Oh, bummer.

Wow, different reactions. Yeah, a little rainbow of responses, sure. Of course, the Flophouse is often a podcast where we watch a bad movie and we talk about it. It's always a podcast. Oh, nevermind. But then on every other week we do these improperly named many episodes. They're often very long and we do something different.

And in this case, I am leading the charge. This episode comes after Stewart's mini that when we're recording this just got released where he looked back on the films of 2024 in sort of the game form. And of course, as this will be coming out in the new year, I will be looking forward in my mini about the movies that are scheduled to be released in 2025. Okay, LA is going to crush this one.

Unlike last time, where LA struggled a little bit. Oh yeah, if I didn't get to the movies much this year, I'm certainly very aware of what's coming out next year. This is less of a game and more of a bit of a discussion. Is it just discussion of the billboards in LA that talk about movies that are coming out? LA would do pretty good. Guys, I did see some trailers a couple of days ago

when I had to take my children to the movie Mufasa, a movie that neither of them really liked very much. But we saw some trailers for some other movies. So I know a couple other movies that are coming out. Did you know guys, there is not a cartoon in existence, which is not being live actioned right now and released for you. Well, some of those may come up.

Okay, let's view this. And yet no black cauldron live action movie. What's going on Disney? Yeah, so consider my breath baited, Dan. I mean, that, that would actually be pretty good. I mean, that's the one they should do, Black Cauldron live action. Do it right.

Sure. Not Lilo and Stitch. Barnfolds of the Pirate in series, maybe. Or like a live action, not even live action. Do a full length, hand drawn Don Bluth, Dragon Slayer movie. Do it. Sure, yeah. Just do it.

I don't know why that triggered my Siri. My Siri on my phone, when I said do it, it just started. I can't make a live action movie. Yeah, Dan, what have you been doing with your Siri? Nothing. Okay, so this is broken down by month, and for each month I've assembled a pair of movies, and I'm just gonna be asking you

which one you might be more excited to see. So, okay, we've got- You're like a cinemalier with your movie pairings. So, in January, we've got, here are a couple of movies that are coming out, and maybe you can tell me which one you're more excited to see. We've got Presence, directed by Steven Soderbergh,

Family Discover, they're not alone when they move into a new house Steven Soderbergh. Family discover they are not alone when they move into a new house. Soderbergh doing a horror film. Oh. He's never really done a horror movie before. He's done thrillers, right? But he's never, he did side effects, right? But he's never done like a horror movie, huh?

Yeah. I'd say I was excited about it, but I also have, I've not really gone out of my way to see the last four or five Soderbergh movies, and they're all on Netflix, I think. Yeah, I was excited about it, but I also have I've not really gone out of my way to see the last four or five Soderbergh movies they're all on Netflix. I think so. Yeah, I mean They're good I mean there yeah, they're good. He has gone Smaller but that's kind of you know, I think the industry bit like not making the sort of movies is like well

I'll go where I have the control. Yeah But so either that or of course, Scream Boat, which is of course, an edgy slasher reimagining of Steamboat Willie. Whoa. Finally. Okay. Finally, he's in the public domain so we can do this. Public domain.

This is winning the booze of Monster. Did you hear the thing about so soon Popeye is going to be in the public domain, the original Popeye? And people are like, we're already doing horror movies of him! It's like there's got to be a thing other than horror movies to do with these characters. And you know it's gonna be called Blood of Spinach or something. They are cheap to do. The only thing that can be done is we need to take beloved characters and turn them into murderers.

That is what we do. Or take beloved murderers and turn them into characters. And then send those characters to USA. You're in USA. They'll be welcome. Like in my new public domain movie, Lil Jack. So Lil Jack has a problem. He can't stop stabbing prostitutes.

Are they doing like Lil Dexter? Isn't there a show Lil Dexter and they got Michael C. Hall to be like the framing device or something? Did they? I don't know. So it's like the wonder years but Dexter? I think so, yeah. Like Young Sheldon but Dexter? Like Young Sheldon but Dexter.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, a great show that's gonna run for like 40 seasons. Okay, so what I'm hearing is a lot of enthusiasm for Screamboat. I'm leaning toward... I mean, I... Are we talking sincerely or ironically? The trailer for Presence looks interesting enough and it looks very like, you know, feels very tied to the form of it, right?

It's like shot really weird. But. Seems like he's doing something new. Yeah, it looks interesting. I'd be more interested in that. As bored as I am with haunted house movies, I'm curious to see what he'll do with it. Okay, well, let's move on to February,

where I've got a parent here. I'm curious to see where you land here. Paddington and Peru. Would you, are you more interested in The Monkey, which is of course the new film by Osgood Perkins, who directed Long Legs, and it's based on a Stephen King short story. Okay.

Or the Unbreakable Boy about an autistic boy with brittle bone disease and his father who's played by Zachary Levi, a man who has made no career or personal mistakes recently whatsoever. I'm out of the loop. What did he do? Well... Just look it up. I don't know. I'll look it up. Well, I mean, everything you said about that second movie is a red flag for me. Uh huh. Yeah, so wait, which one was made by the Harold and the Purple Cran team?

That would be, I don't know, it's by the team. It's the same star. Yeah, I guess, wait, what was the first one? The monkey. I'll see that one, yeah, why not? I like long legs, I like Black Oats Daughter. I still haven't seen Long Legs, but I'd rather see that one first. So that Harold and Purple Cran movie, did that come out?

Did that happen? It happened, it is available, it is on, I think it's on Netflix or some streamer already We probably should talk about it because we should probably do it at some mega flop It's and such a such a misguided the idea of I mean Harold the purple crayon We'll talk about this when we do that movie, I guess at some point, but I love that book It's a beautiful book. I find to be such a beautiful poetic book about creativity and the idea that like now he's grown up and he's in our world.

It's like what the fuck? Like come on guys. It's like it's the little prince but now he's grown up and he's on the run from space pirates. It's like come on man. What are you doing? Yeah and Stephen King on film has had this been a mixed bag but I like the trailer to the movie. I mean it's Stephen King on film. Yeah you never know what you mixed bag, but I like the trailer to the most The Only Link to Osgood Birkins.

I mean, it's Stephen King on film. Yeah, you never know what you're gonna get. It could be a great movie, it could be a terrible movie, but it's worth the risk. Okay, in March, coming up on, in March we have Sinners, which is the new Ryan Coogler film. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His first horror movie.

It stars Michael B. Jordan as twin brothers encountering a mysterious evil or You could go see if you're interested Snow White the Walt Disney live-action remake starring seven horrifying CGI dwarves So who plays no white? That's Rachel Rachel Ziegler. Okay, what was the first movie? Sorry, I was busy reading about... Not a bad choice. Yeah.

If you're going to make that. I was busy reading about Zachary Levi's politics. What's that? Sinners, the new Ryan Coogler film. Yeah, I mean, I'm more interested in that. Although, a misguided CGI dwarf extravaganza could be fun for me. I mean, ask me which movie I'm more interested in seeing. The Ryan Coogler one.

Ask me which one I am more likely to see in the theaters. The Snow White one. I will give it that apparently, Greta Gerwig was one of the screenwriters on the Snow White one, so it might have something going on. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. Maybe. Who knows? Who knows?

So that means that automatically Noah Baumbach did a little bit of a punch-up as huh, yeah. Maybe. Who knows? Who knows? So that means that automatically Noah Baumbach did a little bit of a punch up as well probably. We are probably. I think that's, that's the kind of thing that you mean as a joke, but I think could edge into misogyny Stuart. So let's, so I would avoid. No, but I know like they're partners.

I know they work together a lot and they're partners. But I don't want, I know that there's some, I don't want any listeners to be like, oh, Stewart thinks that credit girl, we can't do it on her own. She needs no product. I certainly, that is not the case for me. I know you don't mean it that way, yeah. But that being said, you probably do, right? Yeah, that part where the dwarves are like

smearing jizz all over books and shit in the library. The part where they're listening to Led Zeppelin. Yeah, sure. How could guys, I've said this before and I'll say it again. Two things I have issues with in Squid and the Whale. One, that jizz on the books thing is too much. Two, none of the other kids in his school recognize that song. None of them knew that that was not a song that he wrote.

Come on, come on Noah Baumbach. There's no way. I can't believe it. I can't imagine. Come on. It was a huge song. Huge album. It was't believe it. I can't imagine. Come on. It was a huge song. Huge album. It was a big deal. Put it in the IMGB goofs, I guess. Put it in the goofs.

Yeah. Put it in the goofs. All right. So... Squid and the Whale? More like the Squid and the Goof. Oh, but that makes it sound like it's a squid fighting Goofy. Oh, no.

Now we've got it. That sounds like a great movie. Twenty thousand goofs under the sea. Disney, do it, come on. Well, in April, you guys have a tough choice to make. It's gonna be really hard. Do you wanna run out to see Mickey 17, which is of course the next movie from Bong Joon-Ho,

the one that Warner Brothers and David Zazlov keep pushing back despite the fact that Parasite, his last movie, literally won the best picture That's Mickey said and it's got and Scott Robert Pattinson doing a fun accent And you know that after someone wins an Academy Award They always do their best work when they do anything they want a little Babylon that was a little divisive according to some okay I'm not gonna get there might even be a whole podcast

about when someone gets that kind of a blank check and whether it works out or not. Or your other choice, of course, is you could run out and see a Minecraft movie starring Jason Momoa and Jack Black, directed by Napoleon Dynamite Knight's Jared Hess, which is, as the title suggests, a Minecraft movie. Yeah, there's a part in that trailer, which again, I I've seen because the kind of movies I see the theater now the kind of

What's the trail? What's it look like? Yeah? Cale it actually looks much better than the video game Minecraft But it's just a bunch of people walking around in them. It's it's the same Jumanji, you know type story where a bunch of real-life people get sucked into Minecraft. And they get to Jack Black and he goes, my name is Steve. And I had to turn to my children and be like, what does that mean? He said it as if it's a big thing. And they're like, Steve's like the most famous character in Minecraft.

Come on, you don't know that? But again, I would rather see the Bong Joon-Ho movie, but I will be seeing Minecraft because my children have asked me about it many times. So correct me if I'm wrong, but in Jumanji, wasn't it like they opened the game and all the shit came into the real world? In the old Jumanji, in the new Jumanji, it's a video game that they're sucked into.

Yeah. In the Jumanji that also features Jack Black. Why don't they call it Jumanji Tron then? Cause that's kind of what that is, right? Jutronji. Like a slur or something. Yeah, Jutronji does sound like it's Tron, but they're Jewish. Yeah.

Okay, well, you know, we're getting into blockbuster territory now. Yeah, heck yeah. That's fun. Now that we're past a Minecraft movie. So the Minecraft movie, so which one, wait, so which ones do you guys want to see? You didn't answer the question, Stuart. Minecraft or the other one? Uh, I get, the other one's the Bong movie, right? Yes. Yeah, I'm gonna watch the shit out of that.

I can't wait to watch that. So the Minecraft movie, you watch the trailer for that, and actually, I want you to, Stuart, I want you to write down your script for a Minecraft trailer, and then I want you to watch the trailer and see how much it exactly matches exactly what you think it's going to be. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Not a lot of surprises in the Minecraft trailer.

And then I'll film it and I'll post it on my TikTok. So Elliot will never see it. I got to say, if I did that exercise. Stewart, look, I don't have TikTok. I'm just doing what the American government wants me to do and not use TikTok. No, yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah.

You were saying, yeah, that's what you say every time you get in your Elon Musk created car and you spend your Trump bucks on things. If I did that exercise, it would genuinely be wild because I have no idea what Minecraft is. Like, is that the one that's all blocky? Like, I don't know. It's all blocky.

You're just building things and occasionally you can eat pigs. That's as much as I know. What do you, you think I'm like... I feel like you play more modern video games than I do. Is Minecraft a modern video game? I mean, what do you count, what counts as modern? It's still a thing that people play. You're right, actually. I mean, modern art would be? What counts as modern? It's still a thing that people play. You're right, actually.

Modern art would be art from the early 20th century up to like the 1960s, 1970s. I'm like officially like the gaming nerd correspondent on the show. So I should do my research, guys. Before some young... Somebody younger will replace me on this show. Oh, almost certainly. Yeah. We have a gaming correspondent and we have a hedgehog correspondent.

Those are the two correspondents we have. And we have a cat's premiere correspondent. Okay, in May, in May, you have the option of going out to see Thunderbolts, asterisk, Marvel's first big team up movie in a while with sort of an anti-hero Avengers. Or you can see Final Destination Bloodlines, which is dubbed a reimagining of the Final Destination

series, a series which has reached the point in every horror series life cycle where they add bloodlines to the title. Okay guys. So this time the people are going after death. That's the reimagining. Yeah. I definitely have seen the Thunderbolts trailer and it looks fine.

And I mean, Florence Pugh, I mean, I'll watch, I mean, she's so charming. She's great and lots of stuff. And you love David Harbor, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love big old David Harbor. And I want to support him in this difficult time since he's separating from his longtime partner.

But yeah, it's a shame. You guys are so much more up on the personal lives of famous people than I am. You guys just lumped me in. You knew all about Zachary Levi. I guess that's true. Yeah, well, Elliot, yeah, I mean, I don't have children to waste time on.

I've been in college. That's true. That's fair. When I'm lying in bed, I'll, I don't have children to waste time on. I've been a carpool. That's true, that's fair. That's fair. When I'm lying in bed, I'll look at my, when I'm lying on my deathbed and I'm dying, I'll look over my phone and I'll be like, I just wish I had more time with you, little kid. Now, I'll be honest about-

I just wish I could just watch one more trailer. Yeah, I'll be honest about the selections here in May. Clearly, at this point, you've tweaked to the bit, which is that one movie is less appealing than the other film. But May, it was a harder one. Like, Final Destination has been a pretty consistent series, but this is a re-imagining, and it has bloodlines in the title.

I think those are red flags. They're huge red flags, but guys, I'm not very good at saying no when something is that attractive and still has red flags and Final Destination is the hottest horror franchise, I would argue. It has the fewest misses. Uh, yes, the the the the... wait, what is it? The ceiling isn't that high, even though I do love a couple of them, but the floor also isn't that low on the final destination.

Yes, yes. And the high moments, I mean, some of the best set pieces are like late in the series. Yeah, that's true. That fucking gymnastics set piece is incredible. That is a great one. The gymnastics one is great, yeah.

That is fucking, that proves the fucking magic of cinema right there. Yeah, this is a hard one. It's hard. The original Thunderbolts comic book I loved, but I don't think they're, they're not doing it the same way. So Thunderbolts, the original concept was,

they are villains who are pretending to be superheroes and nobody knows it. And some of the villains are feeling the urge to to be superheroes and nobody knows it and The some of the villains are feeling the urge to actually become heroes and others are not and I feel like This is just gonna be kind of like Suicide Squad, you know type stuff or like, you know, it's and probably I'm worried that it's gonna be What's funny is that Final Destination is all about people getting killed and I'm like I want to see it Elaborate kind of crazy deaths. This is also I'm sure they're're going to kill a lot of people and I'm not going to like it. It's going to be a lot of killing people

and making jokes about it. And it shows my duality when it comes to movies where a lot of people get killed. On the other hand, Wendell Pierce is in Thunderbolts and I love Wendell Pierce. So I don't know, I don't think he's got a big role, but you know. What if, I mean, the thing is like- And I got to find out what that asterisk means.

What does that asterisk on the title mean? You know, what are they referring to? So- Maybe it's asterisk, from asterisk on the title mean? You know, what are they referring to? So- Maybe it's asterisk, from asterisk and obelisk. Yeah, you join the bees. If that was the, like asterisks and obelisks, have you heard about the Thunderbolts Initiative and they only speak ancient French, like ancient Gallic?

Like, come on, then I'd be more interested, yeah. And they are 100% hand-drawn animated characters. That is, that is, I have, yeah, no wiggle room on this one. So I think I want to see our version of Thunderbolts Asterix that has Asterix and Olux in it. We'll say that's an option. Sure. Let's move on to June, where you've got an interesting choice.

You can see 28, all of these are fascinating choice. Yeah, it's a real King Solomon's choice. You can see 28... All of these are fascinating. It's real King Sondra's choice. You can see 28 years later, where the creative team behind 28 Weeks Later returns for a decades later installment of pseudo zombie horror. This is with Sandy B, Sandra Bullock. No, you're thinking of 28 days. No, it's 28 Days later, the rehab.

No, no, no, just 28 Days. Oh, just 28 Days. How to Lose a Guy in 28 Days? No, that's... Or you could run out and see... Are you thinking of 28 Days, the Condor? No. Oh, yeah.

You could run out and see, and this is the whole title, From the World of John Wick, Ballerina, which is, of course course the movie that asks, what if we remove John Wick from John Wick, but added the director of the Underworld series? Well, it didn't work to remove Spider-Man from all those Spider-Man bad guy movies, but maybe John Wick's not as important to these characters.

I think Elliot is glossing over Madame Webb, and I do not like this Madame Webb orator. Madame Webb is the one movie that kind of does have Spider-Man in it, because he's a baby at the end. That's true. That's true. That's why it kind of works.

Yeah, that's why it kind of works. Guys, you know, and we got to do Craven, right? We got to do Craven when it's available. I'm Craven. Craven, Craven. I'm also Craven, Craven. I've kept away from reviews because I don't want to be spoiled.

I wanted to see it as bad as it's meant to be. I had a friend who was going to see it and I'm like, you know what, in another world I would come out to the theater and watch Cravin' with you but I know we're going to have to watch Spongebob House. We've got to do Cravin'. Yeah.

He sees everything. Yeah, he sees everything. So this is either the... He's like the fucking watcher. From the world of John Wick, the ballerina. Now, is this a character from the later John Wick movies, the ballerina? Or is this a new character? I don't know.

Was she in the early ones? I don't remember her. So, Wick was associated with like that kind of like, those Russian mob ballerinas. I don't know what the actual... I, again, I have to stress that I don't pay that much attention to the John Wick movies after the first one. I watched at least one of them entirely on mute

because I didn't want to wake up my wife and just assumed I could follow the... Totally fine way to watch them. I've seen all of them and really liked them, but seen all of them once. So I'm not a, you know. Okay, so anyways. Have you watched any of the John Wick movies?

I've seen the first two. I just haven't seen the third or the fourth. Because when the alert went out for John Wick that they had to stop him, and every single person in New York checked their phone, I was like, I can't buy this world where everyone is a hit man. It's weird.

If anything, you should at least watch some, the action sequences. I will say part four. Yeah, I'll watch the action sequences. They're incredible. For me, like- It's like Final Destination. I just want to see the scene, the death scenes.

I don't need to see any of the other scenes in the Final Destination movie. I still liked two, but for me two was like the dip. And then like, I like three and four more than two. So if you have any affection, I don't know. But as you said before, there's limited time. I understand you make your own priorities. So what are these two movies?

We have a Ballerina and what's the other one? 28 Years Later. I'll probably see that. I thought the last one, the first two were good. Yeah. I don't think I ever saw 28 Weeks Later. But 28 Days Later I liked a good. Yeah. I don't think I ever saw 28 weeks later, but 28 days later I liked a lot, yeah. It was like pretty brutal.

Yeah. Who's the baddie in it? From Trainspotting and Ravenous. Robert Carlyle. Yeah, he's really scary in it. Scary guy. Yeah, no, it's good. It's a weird one where, you know, like,

like other zombie movie, the Dawn of the Dead remake, I don't think it ever gets better than the opening, which is amazing. Yes, yeah. But the rest of the movie's pretty good. I don't know, that moment, the moment in 28 Days Later, when he falls down, he looks up and there's a plane flying over the sky,

that's a pretty powerful moment. Well, no, I'm talking about the 28 Weeks. Oh, the sequel, the sequel, okay. Because there's a part, certainly by the end of 28 Days Later, when he's using the zombies for his revenge fighting, I was like, all right, well, he's kind of turned into a superhero now. I don't love this, but I love seeing that plane. And it's just being like, everyone just forgot about England.

They don't care about it. They don't give a shit about it. Everyone's living their life on other countries. So because we're halfway through the year, I'm gonna just take a brief break to mention a couple of Flophouse things. Of course, last week was our Ski School 2 Flop TV. And next month will be our Flop TV Season 2 big finale, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 the secret of the ooze a movie that I have somehow never seen in its entirety So I don't know what the secret of the ooze is. I will be learning the secret of the ooze

I saw the movie multiple times in the theater when it came out Yeah, I just missed it on the box office game recently. The secret of the ooze was not in my head I just missed it on the box office game recently. The secret of the ooze was not in my head. So you wanna see my mind be blown. So you're familiar with Toca and Razar or no? The other mutants in it? No, I don't know. Okay, don't let me spoil the existence of Toca and Razar.

Yeah, but if you're interested, of course go to theflophouse.simpletix.com and if you get a season pass, you can watch all the old shows until the end of February. So that's coming up. And of course, as you are listening to this, if you're listening to it when it was released, next week is our live show at San Francisco SketchFest

on January the 19th at 7 p.m. at Cobb's Comedy Club. We will be talking about Cutthroat Island and doing our presentations. I have an idea for a presentation that I think is pretty good. That's so wild, don't ever sell it. Pretty good. Can't wait to see what's pretty good.

I've been working on it. That's been my big project lately. So if you're interested, you can go to sfsketchfest.com for tickets. Presuming we haven't sold out by then. Who knows? We'll have to check if it's possible. Yeah. Have you been looking for a new podcast all about nerdy pop culture? Well, I have just the thing for you. Secret histories of nerd mysteries. for a new podcast all about nerdy pop culture? Well, I have just the thing for you.

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Sophie herself would have trouble making these choices. So, in July, would you... Sophie Tucker, that is, the last of the Red Hot Mamas. Yeah. Sure. In July, would you prefer to go out and see Superman, which was the most watched Warner Brothers trailer ever, some nonsense record like that.

James Gunn, of course, taking creative control of DC, returning Superman to the tone of Superman. And it's got the same, pretty much the same music in the trailer, right? Or a variant of that music? They use a heavy metal version of John Williams theme. And Krypto's in it. It's a dog, it's got superpowers. I haven't seen the trailer yet, I hear it's really good actually.

There's a lot of kissing in the trailer, at least the one that I saw. Surprising amount of supes and Lois kissing. Stuart, you like kissing. I love kissing. And your favorite character, Mr. Terrific, also appears in it. Oh, yippee! Or you have the option, of course, to see Jurassic World Rebirth. It's born again. Did you miss it in the whole three years since the last one?

Elliot, you love dinosaurs. You must be thirsted for this one. I do love dinosaurs. I gotta admit, this is, now we're in the real world that young Elliot never thought he would find himself in. Where I'm so bored by both superhero movies and dinosaur movies that I'm like, yeah, I don't know. Or specifically the Jurassic World, Jurassic Park movies.

Like if there's another movie with dinosaurs, I'll eat that up. But I feel like both of these, I'm like, let's let these franchises just lay low for a while. Guys, what was the last non-Jurassic movie that had a dinosaur in it? The 65 that we mentioned. Oh, yeah.

And Tree of Life, Tree of Life also has some great dinosaur footage in it. I understand what you're saying, although because I have disliked the Zack Snyder characterization of Superman so much, it does feel like that character, in my mind, has been dead for years and we haven't seen. Oh yeah, that's true.

I definitely am curious to see a Superman movie where he does not snap people's necks or just allow thousands of people to get killed during his fights, as far as we know. Maybe that's James Gunn's surprise, is that his superhero, Superman, is kind of a bumbling Clark Kent in the lighthearted soups, but he still kills people.

Is he doing like a movie version of like All-Star Superman or something? What's he doing? It looks very All-Star Superman-y, you know, color-wise, color palette-wise, but it's not the same story. Because like in the trailer, the thing that threw me off at the trailer is that there's also like, I think like Hawkman or someone shows up in it and there's Green Lanterns in it. Mr. Terrific. Yeah, Nathan's filling in there as one of the Green Lanterns. Guy Gardner, yeah.

He probably plays Guy Gardner. It's like, I kind of would love to see a Superman movie where it's just Superman and it's not all these other characters, but... Yeah, not carrying the weight of an entire IP, like a whole franchise. Yes, exactly. But I'm curious about what's Rebirth-ing about Jurassic World? Rebirth is another one of these really lazy title subtitles. Like Rises is probably the laziest one

because it means nothing. It's so incredibly meaningless. I think that the real answer is it is the studio being like, okay, we understand you didn't really like those last couple of ones. We're doing something different. I feel like at this point, with a number of these franchises,

they should just be like Jurassic World 2025. Yeah, or just Jurassic World 4. Just put a number at the end of it, you know? Yeah. But yeah, but that's the way they used to do the airport movies, was it would be like Airport 75, you know, and you'd be like, oh, the the new airport is out the new model of the airport movies. Yeah Okay. Well in august

You have a choice to make and that is uh, could you would you could you would you with a bear? I think I don't I don't think we made a choice of july. I don't think we ever actually chose anything but Um, I don't know. Do you have a choice to make? I'll see superman. I'll go see the super movie. I'm not gonna see Jurassic World Rebirth, probably. August, you could watch the Battle of Bactan Cross, which there's no plot details yet, but this is Paul Thomas Anderson's next film, and it is apparently the biggest budget he's ever had,

in part because he's got DiCaprio as his lead and so the zoom is like oh well I sure loved that last movie of his oh no thank you. Licorice Pizza? Oh I thought you were talking about DiCaprio's last movie. No, no, not the last movie. You didn't like Licorice Pizza? No, not a big fan. Didn't really like it. I kept waiting for the movie to kind of kick into gear and do something that I Like a licorice pizza? No, not a big fan, didn't really like it. I kept waiting for the movie to kind of kick into gear and do something that I liked and it just never did it. I don't agree with you, but you know,

he's got a good track record in general, even if you didn't care for that one. He's someone I have to admit, I admire his movies more than I like them, to be honest. Your other option, of course, and of course, there's only one other option. There are only two movies being released in all these months. So Hollywood really is in trouble.

They're releasing 24 movies this year, the whole industry. Your other option would be untitled Insidious sequel. With a title like that, anything's possible. Wow, they still haven't untitled it. And it's coming out next year. It's going to be a tough box office weekend, I gotta tell ya. Yeah, I'll have to go see, I'll have to go see Backsidious. That'll be the way you watch both of them at the same time, yeah.

You'll have to watch all of the previous titled Insidious films so you understand this untitled one. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm going to go, as much as I didn't like Licorice Beats, I think I'm gonna, as much as I didn't like Licorice Beats, I think I'll go see Battle of Bactan Cross. Okay. If only because it makes me think of Bacta Tanks. Yeah, sure, maybe there's a Bacta Tank in it.

Yeah. Okay, well in September, here's some interesting ones. You could see the bride exclamation point, it's not the words, but it's just the bride, the bride. A musical adaptation of The Bride of Frankenstein, which is, listen to this, written and directed by Maggie Gyllenhaal with an all-star cast, including Jessie Buckley, Christian Bale, Penelope Cruz,

Annette Bening, and of course, Maggie's husband, Peter Sarsgaard. Sure. Or, Saul Levin. What new fiendish traps of shill in the Ideas Notebook. This is like when Ogami Ito made Daigoro choose between the ball and the sword. This one's a tough one.

To be honest, Saw's doing it right with the titles. Just slap of a number on there. Just do it. We know how many Saws there are, this is great. It has gotten confusing briefly in there. They stray from the numbers. Yeah, we had to go pick up the Book of Saw. Yeah. Or the worst one.

Or the worst one. Yeah, I think Spiral Book of Saw, I think that's the worst one. But yeah, they're all going to have the same music in the end. It's I hate them all and also kind of like them all. And you also love them. I mean, I got to see the bride. I got to see a musical version of Bride of Frankenstein. And I love Jessie Buckley.

She's great. I got to admit, I know that it's not a good movie, but Spiral from the Book of Saul was one of the first movies like after- That you ever saw? No, after like, I was fully vaccinated for COVID and like things were quieting down. Dean was vaxxed and waxed. Theaters were reopening.

He got vaxxed, then he got a waxing, because this is the first time he could really go to the waxer. I was just so thirsty to see a movie in the theater that I saw, Spiral from the Book of Saw, and had a good time because I'm like, oh, you know, God bless seeing a movie in the theater. Not being able to do that. I think that was nobody for me, the Bob Odenkirk action movie, that was a blast. In October, this is an interesting one. You got, this is from the director of The Place Beyond

the Pines, a movie that I didn't, you know, I'm really strong, but it's interesting. It's too bad, The Place Beyond the Pines, a movie that I didn't, you know, I'm really good at, but it's interesting. It's too bad, the place beyond the pines, it's too bad the first third of that is the most interesting part of the movie. And then it gets kind of less and less interesting as it goes on. But they've made a movie called Roof Man,

which is a true crime story about- Another superhero movie. It's got the powers of a roof, great. It can cover things, fantastic. It's a the powers of a roof. Great. It can cover things. Fantastic. It's a true crime story about an army officer turned thief of McDonald's franchises. All right. Now I'm listening. It stars Shani Tatum and Kirsten Dunst.

Or you could run right out and see Tron Ares where they decided that what the Tron franchise needed was Jared Leto. It puts Jared Leto in Tron now. He makes every movie better, Dan. Name one movie he made worse. You know what? I can't just name one movie that he made worse. I challenge you to limit it to one.

So those are some saucy options. I will say, like, Jared Leto is often in good movies, though. Yeah, look, I don't think it's impossible for him to put in a bad performance. He can be a good actor. Yes. But I'm just saying that, like,uts him in movies, generally picks good projects for whether it's Blade Runner, Panic Room, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah.

I think he's, he is best deployed as sort of a spice on the side. Sure, yeah, not the main dish. Yeah. Okay, so. There's a reason that he did not play the main lead in House of Gucci, but instead was the wacky sidekick. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I think the first one. So I'm gonna say roof man. Yeah, roof man. I'm just gonna say roof man, yeah. Yeah. All right, well, in November,

what we've got on the plate is... Days are getting shorter. It's November. Leaves are falling off the trees, going to the movies. Turkeys are hiding. They certainly are. This is like we're really starting to kick into award season. People are starting to think.

Word season? Yeah. And here's an award season movie for you. The Running Man, Edgar Wright's new adaptation of Stephen King's Richard Bachman novel of the same name, starring newly minted star Glenn Powell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The running man. Hey, they'll make America love him.

They're just gonna keep trying. You know, I was a doubter, but then, you know, between Hitman and to a lesser degree, Twisters, I'm like, yeah, I get it. Well, here's, no, I get it. I think he's super handsome, he's super charismatic. I think he's a good actor. But I feel like it's starting to have the feeling to me

of when Hollywood loves somebody, but America is not like, yeah, we love this. Like America needs to discover a star for itself in some ways or choose a star for itself. His name is Paul Giamatti and America loves him. I mean, to be honest, Paul Giamatti is one of those actors where Hollywood was not like, we gotta put Paul Giamatti in everything,

but America was like, we like Paul Giamatti. We of those actors where Hollywood was not like, we gotta put Paul Giamatti in everything. But America was like, we like Paul Giamatti. We wanna see him in movies, yeah. I would argue that he has now broken through to America with Twisters. Y'all, if they made a running man movie starring Paul Giamatti, I would be like, day one, baby. I would love it. I would love it, that would be great.

I would show up wearing merch for the movie before I'd even seen the movie. Let's table the... You'd have just sweatpants with running man down the leg. Well, it's got to have a picture of Paul. Oh yeah, you know, that's on the butt. Let's table the Powell-Giamatti talks until you hear the other... They're rivals, Dan. Look, they're feuding rivals. Yeah, he plays buzzsaw.

You got to hear the other option available to you. We're gonna start this Giamatti Power beef here on Vodcast. So the question is, do you think that this is gonna be a... Wait, hold on, there's a second movie. Okay, fine, fine, fine. Yeah. Then tell me, I'm curious to know what you're gonna say. Or the other option is David, which is a computer animated movie

about David and Goliath from the director of Jungle Beat the movie. Okay, well, yeah, and I'm very familiar with Jungle Beat, certainly, yeah. I was just gonna say, I know, you know, do you think that this, the Edgar Wright running man is going to be closer to the original short story or more like the big, almost like the more obvious skewering of reality television that the movie was? Well, is it like a weird thing to say both? Because I mean, I do think that it probably

is going to hew closer to the story because the Schwarzenegger movie is very different than the novel and I feel like there's a lot of meat on that novel bone. But I do think that Edgar Wright could do a lot with a reality TV thing. And it feels like if he's leaning more, I mean, Edgar Wright I think is a very good action director. So I'm excited to see him doing that sort of thing.

Yeah. I mean, I'll see that. That's certainly the one I'm more interested in seeing. I hope that they, the running man, the story is intact on a political system. And the running man, the movie is a, the old one is a parody of television. And I hope that I would like this one

to steer more into the political aspect. That it's less about, can you believe what they put on TV these days? And it's more about what kind of culture creates this thing in order to distract people or give them a thing to do. Because the exciting thing about the story is that he's off in the world, and he's out in public, and they're trying to get him.

And people have to be either complicit or not complicit with that hunt. Well, and I also like, you know the casting of Glenn Powell I mean obviously a very handsome man, but more of a normal man than Arnold Schwarzenegger was We're like from the start you're like, oh, I mean like he'll do fine Whereas in the story like it is like a normal dude who has to go through this Yeah, but what if they cast more of an everyman? Just hear me out.

What if instead of casting Glenn Powell, they cast somebody. Who would you think? Someone who's like a little bit less kind of like a leading man, you know, looks, that kind of thing? Traditional, but like he's got all like a certain charisma and charm that really catapults a middle leading man's status.

Yeah, even though Hollywood doesn't want him in that position, but America just demands it. They just demand to see him. Who would be that guy? Now, don't hate me, okay? I don't want you guys to get mad at me. I'll never hate you. You've gotten really tough on me lately.

I feel like I want someone whose last name is Italian, but who doesn't come off as super Italian. Yes, exactly. I think that's important. But at the same time, there's this element of like, it adds a little bit of an edge to him. Yeah, yeah, there's an ethnic tinge to him that gives him a little air of, you know,

not just your milk toast kind of leading. Somebody who has like a pretty nice lengthy career has done some high profile television work as well as played a United States president on television before. Somebody like that. But also could be like Assault of the Earth Everyman, you know? Somebody who's as comfortable playing a guy who has to be a bartender because he has debts to pay and an ape that sells humans as slaves, you know?

Someone who can do both those roles. Who could that be? Yeah. that sells humans as slaves, you know? Someone who can do both those roles. Who could that be, yeah? Yeah, I'm just eyeing the leave button on this. I'm just eating. Okay, so yeah, I'm gonna go see Running Man, yeah. Okay. Yeah, with Paul Giamatti, hopefully. With Paul Giamatti, thank you.

Paul G. And Edgar Wright is the one director I can think of right now, who I don't think they're gonna do the climax of the story where he crashes an airplane into a building, which Stephen King has said since then. I feel like I can't write that now, but I wonder if he, but the fact that as he is walking towards the cockpit, the main character is his guts are hanging out and his intestine

gets caught on a chair and are pulling out of his body as he walks. I could see Edgar Wright doing that scene. So I remember reading that scene and being like, this is amazing. This is the most grotesque kind of hero climax I can imagine, you know? All right, well we've reached the end of the year where all the big movies come out and here we go. I wanna make, wait, I should mention,

I should mention, I was hard on Stewart about what he said about Noam Baabach earlier and Greta Gerwig. I should mention, I have nothing against Italian people. I don't mind if someone's very Italian. I was just trying to, another way to try to hint at Paul Giamatti, you know, but. In December, you have the option to either see

Marty Supreme, which is reportedly A24's most expensive movie, a sports drama about, what? A sports drama about- Oh, sure, it's not about Martin Scorsese opening up like a diner. That's what I mean. And that's the big dish, yeah. Marty's supreme.

It's a sports drama about ping pong, and it stars Timothee Chalamet, and it's directed by Josh Safdie. Okay, I like the Safdie movies. Love Safdie, yeah. Safdie. Or, Five Nights at Freddy movies. Or Five Nights at Freddy's 2. Do you dare spend a six through 10 at Freddy's? Night six through 10 at Freddy's.

I can't believe that's so many nights, guys. Do you take the weekends off? What's happening here? I've probably spent five nights at Freddy's over the course of my time here at Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah. Freddy's Bar owned by my business partner Matt. Yeah, I mean the thing is like I could only spend one night at McCool's. More than five nights at Freddy's would be too much. Yeah, if you spend more than one night at Freddy's see your your doctor. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I only spent... Yeah, because the robots cut you up.

I think I only spent three nights at the museum, and those were huge, and there was stillers there. And those were spaced out over different times in different museums, yeah. I spent a night at the opera once. Just once. Okay. I spent a day at the races. Don't forget that. That was the next day. Yeah, true. Do you at the races. Don't forget that that was the next day. Yeah Mm-hmm. You think those yeah, do you think those stacked money? Yeah, what do you think yeah, so Marty supreme I think I'll probably see Marty supreme Was their previous most expensive movie Civil War I think I don't know I really don't know also I feel like Bo was afraid must have been wildly expensive.

It looks very expensive. Considering how little money I think it made for them. So this, it says, according to this, I'm looking at right now, Civil War was the previous one. It says Civil War's budget, according to Wikipedia, was $50 million. This is $70 million. Most of that went to Jesse Plyman for his one scene. He's like, I'm only available, but you gotta pay.

I know you're gonna use this in the trailer. So you gotta pay me $50 million. That's the whole budget. It's the best scene. He's great. And his, it's, I mean, he probably didn't have to get paid that much since his wife is the star of the movie also. Yeah.

Probably, probably. We're talking about a different movie than the one. Yes. So I'm curious how the sports drama can cost that much money. Maybe they're holding a Super Bowl. I don't know. But yeah, I was afraid. I wonder what the budget for that was. That did look very expensive. And Lupone doesn't come cheap.

No, that's that's what that's what our business card says. Yeah, don't come cheap. This is the support of Wikipedia. The budget was thirty five million dollars. Wow. That's what our business card says. Yeah, don't come cheap. This says, supporting Wikipedia, the budget was $35 million. Wow. That's a lot for $35 million. It's all up on screen. It is all up screen. I think more is on screen even than that.

Yeah, I'll watch it. I haven't watched it yet. But I'm afraid. Well. You haven't watched, wait, Bo's afraid you haven't watched or the other one? I haven't watched Bo's afraid, yeah. There's some stuff in it that I loved and some stuff in it where I was like,

movie, you should have cut this out. Don't have this in here. But it's a singular, certainly a singular vision. You know? You like movies that are, I mean, I know that you like, you like, speaking of the Softie Brothers, you like movies that are sort of anxiety, fever, dreams. And Bo's Afraid is definitely that.

Certainly is. Certainly those opening scenes where it's in the city, it's nonstop anxiety, fever, dreams. And Bo is afraid of definitely that. Certainly is. Certainly those opening scenes where it's in the city, it's nonstop anxiety. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, it made me think of, I mean, just the trailer made me think of Synecdoche, New York.

Yeah, they're very different movies, but in some ways they're very similar movies. But I would say the main character in Synecdoche, New York, he causes trouble for himself in a way that seemed less like he was a doofus than Beau does. There are times when Beau's afraid where I'm like, Beau, just fucking do what you're supposed to do. Like, this is not that difficult.

Like, come on. Straighten up and fly right, Beau. When Nathan Lane is like, Beau, we can't take you today, Beau should have been like, well then I'll just go on my own. Like, I don't need, I could find another way to get where I'm going.

I don't need you to drive me. But Beau's afraid, he's very afraid. He he is afraid that's one thing we know about him That is the one thing we know it. I think the thing that the movie can't quite decide is how afraid he is What was the original title was the working title? But was not afraid and then they made a big change in the story. It's called like Heartbreak Boulevard or something Really? It was something it was something different That's it. That would be a terrible title. I don't think that was that specific thing,

but it was something weird. Cool, so that was a year. It was originally titled Disappointment Boulevard. Okay, so that's a year of those. Which are you most excited for and why is it the, is there a dinosaur one? The Jurassic World one. Jurassic World. Jurassic World?

I don't know Yeah, I'm I love movies. So I'm gonna see a ball, you know, yeah, I don't have to pick one No, this is like the look I've made, you know, I like I said, I stacked it with some silly choices in there But there's some movies in there that I'm really excited to see You know, it's nice to have Something to look forward to in this life. In 2025? Yeah. And that, of course, was our comprehensive and very serious preview of the next year in film. For the Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.

I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliott Kalin saying, even if all the other movies are crap, you gotta believe Hollywood will release at least one good movie next year. And I can't wait to see it. Bye! Okay, let's do this mini! Let me just... You're a...

Let me... Finish it! Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Maybe at the end, maybe don't just stick it in the middle. Yeah, just insert it in the middle. Dynamically insert it in the middle. Yeah, okay. Do it dynamically. Do everything dynamically. Okay. Oh, God.

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