The Flop House - FH Mini 40 - TuBoy Talkin' Tube to 2 Dudes Tonight, That's Right 2
Episode Date: October 16, 2021Stuart's most ostentatiously-named mini format makes a triumphant return, as he talks to us about the Emmys, and current TV in general. ...
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Hey, it's me, Stuart of the Vloghouse.
And I'm one of the people's ears.
Yeah, like if Porcupig was at the beginning of the cartoon.
More people would watch loony tunes.
That's what it is.
That's why they got canceled loony tunes. Got canceled. That's what it is. Cool. That's why they got canceled.
Looney tunes got canceled because not enough people were watching.
Yeah, no, no, a porky in the front.
Okay.
So a porky in the front party in the back.
Gross dude.
I was trying to keep a clean podcast for a change.
So I'm one of the three hosts of the Flopass podcast joined with me or my two co-hosts
who will introduce themselves now.
I'm Dan McCoy.
I'm Elliott Kaelin.
That's right.
Himself, that guy from the flop house, how'd they get me?
I'm always here.
Thanks.
Now, now tonight we're now Stewart.
Have you said your name?
Oh, yeah.
I don't think you have.
I think I said I was Stewart from the flop house.
Stewart Wellington.
You did change your last name too from the flop house. Stuart from the flop house, Stuart Wellington. You know, we're changing your last thing too.
From the flop house.
Stuart from the flop house.
Yeah, legally.
So we're a podcast about bad movies normally,
but you're tuning into one of our mini episodes,
which we're recording tonight,
and we are not going to be what we doing what we normally do,
which is watching a bad movie, then reviewing it.
No, no, no, we are doing something special
because as you guys can, you guys,
I'm sure have been checking your calendars.
It is the nine-month anniversary
of the now classic flop house mini.
So we are doing the next episode.
That's right.
Tonight we are doing two-boy talking tube to tube to tube tonight.
That's right.
I was thinking about this the other day for random reasons and could not remember the
full title.
I could not bring it into my mind.
So do you say it again?
Now, yeah, it's two boy talking to two dudes tonight, that's right.
Because let's just break this down.
It's the that's right that I always forget.
Let's break this down, two boy, that's me, Stuart Wellington.
Two dudes.
The flop has.
Yep, is Dan Mellett from the flop has.
Talking to means we're going to be talking boob to.
We're not talking movies. We're talking about the small screen.
That's right. Things you can watch on your phone.
And then we're going to be doing it tonight.
And it's all right because we're going to be doing it and you can't stop us.
I'll see you turn off the podcast, which would make me very bummed.
Yeah. Yeah, this is a pretty easy way to stop us. I'll turn off the podcast, which would make me very bummed. Yeah,
there's a pretty easy way to stop us. You get what don't say that they're going to
be a button that's that is a stop button. Now, sir, I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention
before. What? Two point of emergency tonight. That's right. Which anniversary we had? Nine
months, nine months. So if you had, so for anyone who conceived on the night that we first did this, now the
baby is here.
Congratulations.
It's an overlong title.
Congratulations.
It's an overlong title.
Okay, so we're talking TV, guys.
We're not talking movies.
So of course, the first thing that everybody wants to talk about, that's right.
The Emmys.
The Emmys were a thing that happened recently.
A war to give an ass.
That's the reason.
I mean, it's recently in terms of a few weeks, I mean, it's not
recently that it's like.
A geologic scale.
That's true.
I guess, good point.
I pulled that one on me last time.
On the geologic scale, it hasn't even happened yet.
Yes.
So let's just start this off.
I'm going to start with outstanding comedy series. The winner was
Ted Lasso. What do you think, Dan?
Well, I didn't follow the Emmys at all this year. Okay. Now it's your chance.
So I have no idea. We're just wrapping. You don't have to be an extra. I'm just saying I don't know what else was nominated.
So I cannot.
Oh, I got it right here, Dan.
It was up against Blackish.
Hope Rokai.
Sure.
Emily and Perry, the flight attendant, Hacks, the Kaminsky method, which I swear is not
a real show.
Yeah. Okay. The Kaminsky method, which I swear is not a real show.
Yeah, okay.
You can, there's nothing you can say to convince me that this is an actual show that I can watch.
And pen 15.
Okay.
Well, with the caveat that I have not seen pen 15, which I understand is very good. I would say that of that crop, it certainly deserved it.
The only way I was gonna say it didn't
is that it is of that kind of comedy
that is often more gently amusing than laugh out loud,
funny, like I enjoy being with the characters more
than I have a hearty belly laugh.
But is it entirely on not having watched it,
but impressions you've had from people talking about it.
No, I'm talking about Ted Lasso.
Oh, Ted Lasso.
Yeah, you have watched it.
I have watched that show.
I'm saying the only reason I wouldn't have possibly said
that it was the best of that Motley crew is maybe
if you're arguing that it wasn't enough of a comedy.
Now if it was motley crew which member of the band would Ted Lasso.
That's actually a really good that's not gonna say that for a later segment.
Oh, and we can start it right now.
Yeah, is it Nikki Sixth?
Dan or is it yeah it is since that's the only member of motley crew I would have been able to.
Would it be Tommy Lee because they have the same initials. Tommy Lee Ted Lasso, same initials.
Wow.
There you go.
Wow.
Correct the code.
My point, Ellen, do you have any opinions on this?
I haven't seen, to be honest, I haven't seen most of those shows.
I still haven't seen Ted Lasso, my boss's wife, my boss's husband works for that show.
So I can't, even if I had seen it, I wouldn't say anything negative about it.
Okay.
But I haven't seen it yet. But I will say, Dan, that gentle comedy that is not laugh out loud
funny, but is kind of pleasant, is kind of where it seems to be kind of
where comedy is right now.
And a lot of ways after shit screen, which is a fine show that I enjoy
swept last year, but it's not a show where I watch it.
And I'm like, I cannot wait to have my sides split open from laughter.
It's a show where I'm like, it's gonna be fun.
This is gonna be fun.
I mean, I know what you're saying,
but like I think that the actors were so talented
in creating those specific characters
that I would laugh heartily at a lot of it,
even if yeah, maybe joke writing wasn't
that shows strongest suits.
I mean, I think it's a really well, that shows a really well written show, it's a really well performed show. I love everybody on it. I think, but I think it's a really well,
that shows a really well written show,
it's a really well performed show.
I love everybody on it.
It's more, I think it's just not with,
they're not going for a show that is like 30 rock
where it's like hitting you over the head
with punchlines constantly, you know,
literally punching you in the face with jokes.
And I said literally because it's not a metaphor
that the scene of face hands reaches out of the screen
and punches you with a joke every time. But yeah, I haven't seen that last year.
Sort of a video-groom thing.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what happened in video-groom.
James Woods was like, I can't take all these jokes.
The new flesh is too funny.
I obviously, obviously, the problem is that the best comedy show, what we do in the shadows
is not even nominated, which is a part of the happens.
It was not eligible that year.
Oh, it wasn't. Yeah, because of the vampires. show, what we do in the shadows is not even nominated, which is a part of the year. It was not eligible that year.
Oh, it wasn't.
Yeah, because of the vampires.
Yeah, they passed a vampire role
because of its broadcast schedule.
It's humanly vampires.
And all of the vampires are gonna show up
on when we filmed them for the Emmys.
We can't have.
Jesse Doran came in and made sure
that no trackulas were allowed.
Mm-hmm.
There were two issues.
One was, yeah, if they win,
you're just gonna see an empty stage
because the track's are not,
and then a word trophy that floats in the air
because you don't show up on film or video.
Also because you don't want that many vampires
loose in amongst Hollywood's brightest stars.
They're just gonna go crazy with the beating
and the blood sucking and then what's gonna happen?
The only thing that vampires I want is a celebrity rock
and roll band featuring Johnny Depp
and a couple other turds.
I mean, counterpoint alley, if you have much of vampires, what if the band was called Johnny
Depp and a couple other turds?
I would assume they're all vampires and just trying to throw me off the scent by talking
about turds.
Come on in, there's no vampires here, just a bunch of harmless turds.
Now counterpoint alley, to what you're saying, you know, if it's a celebration of homeless turds. Now counterpoint, Ali, to what you're saying.
You know, if it's a celebration of Hollywood's best and brightest,
maybe unleashing vampires would just ensure
that those people would say young and vital forever.
It's certainly easier than having to CGI digital ghost versions of them forever.
I guess that's true.
I mean, the question is, are the vampires going to bite them
and make them part of their flock?
Where are they going to tear them apart
in an orgy bloodlust?
You know, you know, what kind of vamps we talking?
Exactly, that's too big.
It's too big a question mark for a professional
award ceremony.
Guys, we've only scratched the surface of this.
But I thought this was too much.
We guys talking teeth tonight vampires
Specifically all right tonight. That's right. We talking
Vamps later. Don't worry. Okay. So we after show talking
Yeah, yeah.
Next is outstanding drama series winner is the crown.
The
For the television adaptation of Larry crown Strain Tom
Hanks haven't seen the movie haven't seen the show. Don't. Of course, the television adaptation of Larry Crown, Strain Tom Hanks, haven't seen the
movie, haven't seen the show.
Don't know how accurate it is.
Yeah.
Again, this is one where I have not seen any of the crowns.
I will say this show, this show, this show, richly deserved the award for outstanding show
that my wife falls asleep too while I do the dishes in the other room.
Yeah, that sounds good.
So he was up against the boys
Bridgerton the
Handmaid's tale love craft country
the Mandalorian
Pose This is us
Well
seniors of those shows I only have seen all of the second season of the boys.
And yeah, I don't know.
I like the Mandalorian.
I saw a couple episodes of, but not this new season.
Yeah, I've only seen the couple of the Mandalorian.
I've seen all of the first season of Pose, but I only just started the second season, which
is the one that's award would be for.
And I have it.
It's, it, what sticks out to me the most is this is us being on there, because there's
like, is that the only network show on the list?
I think it, yes.
And, yeah, I guess FX doesn't count as a network show.
I would, well, I mean, cable, I mean, non-cable, non-streaming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. The boys was a fine show to fold my laundry to.
I wouldn't, I don't think I would nominate it for.
Wait, it did win.
It certainly think the second season is an improvement over the first season.
It went out standing drama at the folders.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that just other forms of entertainment that you fold things during?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's television, film, music, someone reading a newspaper article or magazine article
to you.
Sounds like...
Sounds like...
No podcast category, very strange.
A weird oversight for the Foldies.
Yeah, you would think.
Yeah.
So, it sounds like we have some really firm opinions on this category.
Let's just jump ahead to outstanding, limited, or really...
A really G series.
You're gonna see how how little television we seem to be watching in our regular lives,
but can see. Okay, this is limited series or a mini-mull series. Yep. The winner is the Queen's Gambit.
Other other shows in the category, other nominees. I may destroy you. Mayor O Easttown, the underground railroad,
one division. I mean, Queen's Gambit and Wonder Vision are the only ones in the series where I've
seen all of both of them. But I saw a little bit of underground railroad and I thought that was
good too. And I saw a little bit of, what was the real ones? I made a story you was great.
It is super intense.
And I made a story you were intense.
Well, the thing we watched the first episode
every time we're about to watch the second episode,
we're like, do we really have, we're tired?
Do we really have it in us to watch this show right now?
Yeah, like I, it's this, yeah.
This is so weird to realize that in previous days
when there was no pandemic, I would have seen
I think more of the things that were big than that.
I just haven't found myself watching television the same way.
I don't know.
I saw all of Juan Division and then we watched the Queen's Gambit, like I don't know, about
half of it.
And neither of us seem to be like quite excited enough to push through the edge.
I really liked the Queen's Gambit. I found the very ending of it to be kind of anticlimactic,
but I like the music. I mean, I certainly liked the outfits and the hotel
reactions. The production design looked, and so much of that, I'm sure, was also like mixing
real sets with CGI recreation, you know, of the time period, which is what
it looks like.
It's very varied away in on that one.
Hey, the production design was beautiful.
The clothes were beautiful.
I love on you, Taylor Joy, and basically everything I've seen her in.
I thought the supporting cast was pretty good.
You've never mentioned that before, Dan.
But I have.
I remember you did start the hashtag, not my Princess Peach trending on Twitter. So that seems to go against what you're saying.
But can't you be normal now?
But but I also got this feeling from that show that it's like a deeply silly show that was trying to pretend it was important.
Oh, I don't know about that. I think it was it was a show that was I think maybe attempting to hide how melodramatic it was at times, but
it's funny that it and WandaVision were both nominated because WandaVision is a superhero
show, and the Queen's Gambit is a chess drama that kind of takes the form of a superhero
show in a way where like her superpower is chess, and there's something funny about, and she builds her kind of like team of,
her support team of side heroes and stuff like that.
But yeah, I don't know.
I haven't seen most of the other ones.
I watched the first episode of Mara Vase Town
and I was like, I don't think I'm into murder shows these days.
Yeah.
I don't wanna be taking the rock.
But the accents, dude, and Guy Pierce with long hair.
That, if it was just called Guy Pierce with long hair and it was just him going around doing
stuff, taking a shirt off, putting it back on.
I'd watch that show every episode.
So I did the thing that I do a lot and when I was watching not to be too much of a spoiler
but there is a romantic relationship between Guy Pierce and Kate Winslet.
So I was like, hmm, how old are they really?
And obviously Guy Pierce is a little bit older,
but he also plays his age in this show,
which is kind of interesting.
But the weird thing is, both of them have this.
As opposed to Prometheus,
where he played a man who was 70 years older than him.
That's a beautiful swing.
And some might say it's a miss, I would not.
I think there was a swing in a hit.
It was the best choice of that movie to make that the majority of screen time that Guy Pierce had in Prometheus. He
was caked in old age makeup. Caked in what appeared to be layers of filmers glue that had
not to dry one at a time. But you were saying so he's playing as age. But what I, but the interesting
thing is both he and Kate Winslet have the exact same birthday
Isn't that fun? Isn't a fun fact?
You know that every day when they walked on set they went birthday pals
They put it in a joke and they go hey birthday twin. How you doing? I'm good with each win
I want to jump way back only for fear of being
misunderstood and having
Angry kings queens gambit heads coming at me. I didn't have any angry Queens gambit heads coming at me.
I don't know.
The gambos, they call themselves,
now they call themselves gambos,
which is bad because Michael Gambon's fans
also call themselves gambos.
So it's hard, you know?
I just wanna make clear that like I actually really enjoy
sort of the melodrama of it all.
I, my problem was more that I felt like it took some silly
like shortcuts in the storytelling.
But I like how it's a handsomely mounted melonsrama.
It's just a thing we don't get enough of.
That's true.
I think so, Dan Safey's on base.
You cannot be mad at him.
Yeah, cancel him.
I can't cancel him.
So that's going to wrap up our Emmy segment.
We have one more segment.
Oh, well, not one more.
We have a couple more.
The next segment of course is called,
oh, what are we watching?
This is the segment where we talk about shows
that we're watching lately.
I'll go first.
I mentioned what we do in the shadows.
New season, it's great.
I love that show.
Can't get enough.
Yeah, crazy, is it, crazy.
Vamps, I also, I'm talking to Elliot about this,
but when I work out, I got to have something on the background. I about this, but when I work out, I gotta have something on the background.
I gotta watch something when I work out.
Lately, I've been watching those Peaky Bees,
you know, the Peaky Blinders,
starring Killian Murphy, beautiful short king.
I love that guy.
Don't know if I buy him as like a scary mobster guy,
but whatever, he's cool.
Why, and he's gorgeous, I love him.
He's the scarecrow, Stewart.
How could you not, come on, what's not scary about him?
He's the scarecrow.
I have trouble buying him as like a war hero, Crost, do it. How could you not come on? What's not scary about him? He's the scared crew. Well, I have trouble buying him as like a war hero tough guy when he's like, he's like
five seven and a gorgeous angel of a man with a beautiful voice.
Like, I feel like he'd be walking around the streets of Birmingham and people'd be like,
who is this?
Who's this beautiful ghost?
And but I love those haircuts and I love that it's a lot of slow motion guys walking around in three piece suits like,
oh man, I can't get enough of that shit.
And, uh, have you ever, and they have this house band that's really great, uh, Nick cave
in the bad seeds.
He does the, he does the theme song.
Dan, you know what I'm talking about?
You're a P.E.B.
head, right?
Yes, not.
Uh, and then of course I've been watching, uh, they call them, so the fans call themselves P.E. Yeah. And then of course, I've been watching the fans call themselves Peaky Beekeepers.
That would make sense.
It's all about head gear.
And the other thing I've been watching, of course, I'm almost done with Mike Flanagan's
Midnight Mass, another Mike Flanagan horror series, spoiler.
There's vampires in it. I like it a lot, but it's like a lot of Mike Flanagan horror series, spoiler, there's vampires in it.
I like it a lot, but it's like a lot of Mike Flanagan stuff
where it's like, this would be great if it had
about 50% monologues.
I don't know if you, did you guys watch Hill House
or a blind manor?
I started watching Hill House and I,
and I, I just didn't quite get into it.
It just wasn't, it was a little,
it was a little, it was a little, a little too super serious for me, I think.
Yeah, I feel like every time there's action,
it gets interrupted with like two characters
telling some long monologue about some shit.
And it's like, I get it.
I understand that it's just, it feels a little self-serious
and it's like it, to me, it hurts the pacing, but whatever.
And also, I feel like it's padding.
Paddington?
It's paddington.
Midnight Mass is probably the main thing
that I have watched lately and I don't know,
I didn't have the same problem.
I mean, I will say that I see that it is there.
I see that the show is almost entirely made up
of people modeling to one another.
Yes.
But it's not a thing that bothers me
because I think that by and large,
they're interesting, well-written, well-performed
monologues.
And so I just sort of,
exception is the style, especially because it's about,
like religion, so it just feels like people
trading sermons of different kinds.
Well, yeah, and it, like, the theme of, like,
a personal faith and that sort of thing.
I think that's all cool.
I just wish it moved a little better clip in regards to that stuff. I love all the. I haven't seen it. I haven't
seen it. I know Dan loves monologues though. Usually the late night shows you watch as the
first 10 minutes and then just turns of all. Yeah. Same thing with Marin. The and the other
thing with the other thing with midnight mass, of course, I love that we got we got mega
honk Rahul Kohli in it. And this time he's doing an American accent and he's doing
a pretty good job. Okay. Ellie, what do you been watching lately?
I haven't been watching a lot. I mean, the problem is I work in television, but I like to
watch movies kind of more than television. So if I have a chance on a watch of a movie
more often, but let's see, like I mentioned earlier,
we've been watching Pose,
we just started the second season.
That's a show I like the first season of a lot.
It's a very Ryan Murphy show in that it is,
everything about his on the nose.
There's nothing subtle about it whatsoever.
And anytime you're like,
oh, that's interesting metaphor,
a character just comes out and says it right afterwards.
But I'm still there.
Have you seen any of impeachment? No, I haven't yet. I'm curious about it, but I'm still there. Have you seen any of impeachment?
No, I haven't yet. I'm curious about it, but I have a saying.
There is, it's every opportunity to put makeup effects on a character. They take it.
And it's wild that they manage to make Clive Owen have less charisma than Bill Clinton,
which I mean, Bill Clinton has a lot of charisma, but Clive Owen, you know, with under a giant nose and whatnot, just can't keep up.
Yeah.
And the, I'm trying to think what I started, I watched the first half of the first episode
of a Squid Game.
Uh-huh.
But uh, yeah, sweeping the nation.
It's sweeping the nation.
And I will say that one of the, it has so far one of the things that I like about Korean
movies.
I've watched a lot of Korean movies. And so one of the things I like about is that
the characters will just suddenly yell at each other and you don't expect it.
Like characters of Korean movies are always on the verge of just
hollering at each other out of nowhere.
But and I really like that and I I imagine this too,
some co-workers of mine who are of Korean descent and they were like, yeah,
that's how it goes. I mentioned this too, some co-workers of mine who are of Korean descent and they were like, yeah.
That's how it goes.
So, but yeah, I haven't seen too much.
I feel like I'm stuck in this cycle where
the writers room that I'm working on right now,
everyone seems to watch the hot shows right away
and I haven't seen them yet.
And then by the time I watch them,
everybody's on to a different show,
which seems to be the way television works now,
is you kind of like gobble it up really fast,
and then forget about it.
Like until WandaVision, I think,
until you mentioned it was nominated,
I kind of forgot that I'd seen that this year, you know.
I mean, I feel like a lot of media, at least the way
I feel a lot of folks consume,
and myself included, consume media. With me, it's a lot of folks consume and myself included consume media.
With me, it's a lot of like, with music.
I, every year, I'm like, man, I haven't listened to that much music
this year and then I go through my band camp thing
and I'm like, holy shit, I bought like 100 albums.
Yeah, we seem to be, we're seem to be at a point in the cycle now where
even if the media itself is not disposable, content-wise,
it is used disposable. We're kind of speeding through stuff. But I wonder if that's probably
a side-effect of feeling like there's so much out there that we don't have time to waste
sitting on it. I wonder. Or just the feeling like, I just have too many hours in the day, too much time to exist on this planet
that unlike some people are concerned that time is passing too quickly and we're getting
old so quickly, I don't think that's the case.
I think we all have plenty of time to just chill out and watch the times just shit.
I think this is snow.
I mean, I can't tell how sarcastic you're being.
It feels so me sarcastic, but it's definitely not true for me.
You know, I mean, I didn't get to have lunch today because I was too busy, you're being at first. Tell me sarcastic, but it's definitely not true for me. You know, I mean, I didn't get to have lunch today
because I was too busy, so that's where my TV watching is at.
You got us switched to doing like protein shakes,
maybe a salad, you got to do something,
you got a problem with that.
I have duck confi every day, and I got to get it done right.
So if I don't have the time to make it work,
I'm just not gonna do it, but that's because that's my lunch of choice.
It's delicious, you know.
Oh no.
Yeah, I mean, you like what you like.
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Yeah, so we got two more segments, and we'll try and make these a little bit quick, because
I know you guys were really into the, what are you watching segment? So today, tonight we're gonna do a little segment I like to call bingeable or cringeable.
I love it.
I was hoping you was gonna rhyme.
So, yeah, it would be disappointing if the title was bingeable or not bingeable.
It would have been disappointing.
Bingeable or fungible.
Almost rhymes.
Or, spingeable.
I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a word.
So, in this segment, I'm going to list the name
of a popular television program.
And you are going to have to tell me
whether you consider it to be bingeable or cringeable.
you consider it to be bingeable or cringeable.
First show, the great British baking show or bake off depending on where you watch it.
Bingeable or cringeable, guys.
To me, this is highly bingeable.
I love this show.
I watched much of it when it first came to Netflix,
but I've fallen off because it was very confusing
in the early days, which series were which?
You were like, what are they doing?
I don't understand too much continuity.
Netflix only bought seasons later on.
So then I wanted to see the earlier ones
with the early ones were different format, not as good.
So I understand why Netflix started where they are
and then now they've got new hosts, so I fell off, but good show at Bingeable.
Yeah, totally Bingeable.
It's like, you know,
I feel the same way about it that I do
about like HGTV shows where I'm like,
put it on, let it keep running,
do something else while it's up there,
checking every now and then.
Oh, that's charming.
Well, off we go.
Ooh, that Mars Appendent work out.
Okay, well, check that out. That took you's gonna break. Yeah, that's what. Well, off we go. Ooh, that Mars repent and work out. Okay, well, I'll check back.
That cook is gonna break.
Yeah, that's what Christopher Walken yells
for this psychic powers.
A cookie's gonna break.
The cookie's gonna break.
The cookie is gonna break.
Okay, it's a dead zone reference for anyone at home,
dead zone.
Also, there was a great British baking zone.
It's what I guess
I think they made a TV show out of that too right they did I think it was anything Michael Hall who was
Oh wow cool similar similar style he played he played he played sports calmness a D zone
the D's and her dead okay that guy just can't get away from weird science. You know what
I mean? I mean, he can. He's done lots of other things. I do know it runs into other science
that's weird weird science experiments. Yeah. Okay. So the next show guys next television
program. This one's on hot out of hot out of the ovens over at HBO Max. That's right. F boy island of the F stands for fuck.
Uh-huh.
F boy island, bingeable or cringeable, Dan McCoy, what do you think?
I, I'm sure I could find it in my heart to binge it, but I, I, I, it's not typically
the kind of my kind of,. Oh, we got a cringe from Dan Jimble.
Elliot.
I'm torn because I don't, it's not,
yeah, it's not my kind of show, but like,
I'm friends of the friends with the host.
So like, you know, it's,
yeah, that's true, Sarah, Nikki.
Yeah, I mean, what her old co-host,
Sarah Schaefer is a friend of mine
and also neighbor of mine.
But I mean, it's not like Sarah's hosting the show. So you know what? I'm gonna say it's derigable. uh... sarah shafer is a friend of mine and also neighbor of mine uh... but i mean
so i was hosting the show so you know what i'm gonna say it's
derid jibble
it's about me i can't reach it don't know how to get to it
okay next program we got another one of these reality shows that's right
wipe out
wipe out
was that what happened is that really is that the one with a not people into
pools
yes Where is that what happens? Is that really is that the more they knock people into pools? Yes
Like I just solely pools are they not people and other things? Well, they know great height. Yeah, well not not that great a height
It's not that great. Let's not give it too much credit
Just not being knocked into pool
No, they got it like they do a thing and if they don't do it they fall in a pool or I haven't seen it
I don't know do you get like knocked in dog?
One of those grocery store arrangements of cans instead of a pool maybe
Doesn't sound like you guys can come to a consensus as so whether or not it's binge or a cringe bowl
So we're just gonna move on yeah, Frazier
Now you're taking that Frazier
Frazier. Dan is Frazier,
Bingeable or Cringable.
That's why I read a story of...
I feel like every old podcaster is weird brother
and is cool dad.
I feel like every six years
a new generation discovers Frazier for some reason.
I don't think I've told this before about it.
I was working on a last show I worked on before I moved to L.A.
was this kid's show on Netflix called Who Was Show before, but I was working on a show, the last show I worked on before I moved to LA
was this kid's show on Netflix called Who Was Show.
And the writers' hit on that show
was a man in his mid-20s.
And he had just discovered Frazier,
and he would watch it,
and then come in the next day
wanting to talk about the episode he watched.
And I'd be like, sorry dude,
I watched it 15 years ago.
I don't remember.
There's a Twitter account
that just posts screenshots
of Frazier staring outside of his apartment window
and replacing the backdrop with scenes from video games.
It's very entertaining.
I mean, I remember liking it at the time very much.
I mean, I'm sure like any old sitcom,
there are parts of it that have not weathered the age as well, but I'm sure it's bingeable. I
worry that too much Frazier talk on this podcast is getting
fringe on the Macarolies copyright on discussing Frazier on
the next podcast.
Do they copyright that? Is that a?
Yeah. Okay. I guess we'll everybody just hit stop on this
podcast and drag it and drop it in the garbage. Yeah, just wrote in the in the Frazier Frazier can. I'm gonna'll, everybody just hit stop on this podcast and drag it and drop it in the garbage.
Yeah, just throw it in the, in the freezer,
freezer can.
Okay, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say binge-mo.
Well written show.
David Hyde Pierce is amazing.
I saw him in the Broadway show Curtains
and he was delightful.
So yeah, I'm gonna go with that.
It's not a flop as episode less early.
John Mahoney.
John Mahoney.
John Mahoney.
John Mahoney, I also saw in a show
at the Papierno Playhouse in New Jersey.
He was also great.
So that's, and you know what? I saw Jane Leaves in a show at the Papua No Playhouse in New Jersey. He was also great. So that's, and you know what?
I saw Jane Leaves in a show of
Monty Python material at the,
was the town hall theater in New York.
So I've seen most of the cast of that show.
On stage.
Yeah, they'll binge it.
You got to catch them all though, Ali.
Yeah, I know.
I haven't seen Kelsey.
I haven't seen the KELSE.
Yeah, you haven't gone to one of his
upstate New York grocery store appearances
where he sells his freedom beer or whatever.
No, I haven't done it. I haven't done that. Yeah, I kind of wish I'd caught him earlier in his
The book of Kels is not one that I really want to read right now. Yeah, okay, so one more
We got some bad grammar. Let me tell you
But still separate the art from the artist go ahead and we go ahead. Well sure
Sorry, I'm just reeling the book of Kels.
That almost you almost flew that one under the radar.
But I'm saying that was just for the Celtic fans, Leoni.
It's all right.
Yeah.
Last program, Bingeable or Cringable?
Columbo.
Oh, very Bingeable.
We've been watching some of it actually in lockdown.
It's super bingeable, but I have to say, and this is going to sound like I'm biting the
hand that feeds it, because people send me a lot of Colombo material on Twitter, and I'm
very happy about it.
But I feel like at this point, Colombo is reaching that level where it's so beloved
that I start feeling a knee-jerk reaction to not like it anymore, which is all inside
of me, which is bad, because it's a great show, and I love Peter Falk in it, obviously.
And all the guest stars, it's a snapshot of Hollywood at the time.
But I guess I'm looking for this, what's the, what's the, I'm the guy who's like, what's
the Colombo type show that only I know about, and nobody else is telling me about it?
That's kind of jerk I am.
Cole check the night's darker.
No, I don't want to watch Cole check.
It's just a war to me. It's too of jerk I am. Cole check the night stalker. No, I don't want to watch Cole check. I'm just never as good as a warrant.
He's very, yeah.
No, it's too scary. I can't sleep at night.
I don't want to watch Cole check.
Yeah, I don't like you.
Oh, Jared McGavin, look out for that mummy.
No, I'm just, I'm more like, I have my blanket over my head
because I don't want Jared McGavin
to come into my room at night and scare me.
No.
So that was bingeable or cringeable.
Let's move on to the final segment of the night. That's right. We are doing
We are doing dinner in a show brought to you by Hulu
So
No, but it's not really brought to you. Not technically
But I mean, I mean, we have a sponsor square space, but please patronize them. They're paying us. Hulu is not paying us, you know
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna
We just tried that new Hulu hoop?
It's a toy for kids that has like one show you're really into and then that show drops
off the service and you're about to cancel it and then another show you like comes on.
Oh, interesting.
So I'm going to lose that.
That's a good idea.
I'm going to lose that.
I'm going to lose that.
That's a good idea.
Take that Hulu.
Hulu original program and you're going to tell me when you're settling in for the night
to watch this program.
And what meal you would either order or make to go along with that show.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I know, I know Elliott.
Elliott is quite a gourmand and Dan loves to make some bread and whatnot.
So hopefully we'll get some exciting answers here.
I've had Dan's whatnot.
It's delicious, yeah.
Okay, so the first program is Deadbeat.
You don't remember it, there were three seasons,
36 episodes.
What?
Something with beats.
Something with beats in it, like a beat salad, maybe.
It's a American supernatural comedy series.
Uh-huh.
Oh, I remember that one.
Is that the one where they had the ads all over New York, but there's kind of like a
sad guy with a beard holding a balloon that looked like a ghost?
Yes, I think that's correct.
Okay, yeah.
I never saw the show, but I remember the ads for it.
Yes, something with beats.
Oh, that okay.
Because also the beat just looks like blood.
So it's our hurry.
Uh, you got anything to add here Dan?
I'm just make sure those beats are dead before you eat them.
Oh, yeah, you don't want them grabbing onto the inside of your throat as they go down,
trying to kind of kill you before you can kill them. Sure.
That was, uh, that was an outtake from the movie Old Boy where they went to a restaurant
that serves live beats.
So, uh, the next, next, uh next next one is devs.
I was that's the show where I refused to watch it because I couldn't figure out what it was about ahead of time.
About developers, I assume.
Is it the Nick Alpherman, right?
Written and created written and directed by Alex Garland.
Science fiction thriller Nick Alpherman is in it. Yeah. Right. The Alex Garland, hmm, science fiction thriller, Nick Offerman is in it.
Yeah. Right, the Alex Garland thing. That was back when I was going through a phase when I wanted
to know a little bit about the show before I started watching them and I couldn't find anything about
what was what Devs was about. So I would probably I probably serve fried chicken. Yeah,
is the best. And I guess if it's an outlet at Alex Garland show, I would serve like a single grape inside an ice cube.
Oh, they sort of cold and austere and mysterious.
Yeah.
Little, little high concept.
I like this.
Okay.
I'm still gonna go to the fried chicken.
Yeah.
We're moving, we're moving a little bit closer to more modern
So maybe you guys have a better chance of having see these old old shows like devs, which is what three years old come on
Forget about it. Uh-huh
So we are
How about the Hulu original doll face
Doll face now does this have anything to do with dolman versus demonic toys?
Unfortunately, just this face, just the face of dolman. Yeah,
I haven't seen it. I'm going to go fried chicken, I think. Yeah.
And then I'm just saying fried chicken. That's a surprise.
But you know, have some soup. Okay.
What kind of soup, Dan? What's your your of soups? What's what's what's a go
to soup for Dan McCoy? You know what's good? You get a test can be in soup. You put some
sausage in there, some white beans, a kale, maybe throw a hunk of Parmesan and what? Just throw
it right in there. I imagine you're you're sitting down with Audrey and for there and you go, hey,
do you want to hunk in your soup and you hold up the parmesan, but then you dip your own hand in.
Oh fuck.
Did you do that for real?
Did you do that?
And she says, please for me.
Did you do that for real?
I was in the middle of the row book.
This is a can.
I can't believe you did that for real.
Okay.
That's crazy for real.
Okay.
So we got one last one.
This is ripped from the headlines, one last one.
Why the last man?
Now what headline is that ripped from?
The headline of New Show on Hulu.
The headline of why the last man adapted television.
Finally, it did.
Finally made it.
They did it.
This version doesn't have what, who are they going to have at one point, do speak a little,
what's the name?
Rob Schneider.
Rob Schneider's supposed to, he was like, I don't believe that was there for the case.
What?
Some sort of comedy version of this at one point.
Really?
That'd be a very different story.
Let me look it up.
Maybe he was going to play the monkey, I don't know.
Did you guys, did you guys read the comic book?
It's based on a comic book.
I read the whole comic book.
I have not yet seen the show.
Okay.
I only read the first trade and did not like it.
I like that.
You know what?
I think I'm fucking curmudgeon when it comes to that shit.
That's true, you are a curmudgeon.
So I think I'musing a few things.
I think that there was a movie that had basically the same premise that was a comedy version.
Are you thinking of the hot chick, Duh?
Attached to.
Are you thinking of Duce Bigelow, Last Man on Earth?
And then I don't know.
I know that there was some weird version of it that it's, you know, they've been working
on it for years.
So that makes sense. that it's, you know, I mean, they've been working on it for years. So that means it's finally here. And you know what? Nothing goes better with dystopia than big,
big play to fried chicken. Let's go. Okay. Okay. So Elliott is doing fried chicken. Dan,
what are you going to bring to this? We're going to have a swanson hungry. Why the last man dinner?
Okay. What's the feature there? Is Amelow is that a fried chicken fried chicken? Okay. Okay, fried chicken across the board.
Okay, guys, what I would want if I was the last man, sure. Yeah. So I'm glad that segment
went. I feel like that was the strongest segment. I'm glad I saved it for the very end.
This is, yeah. This has been another round.
To it, if any of the segments weren't strong,
it was only contestant error.
It was not at all a matter of the operator
of the games or the show, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the careful mouse trap
that I've created in with this episode.
So yeah, who knew when you asked, who knew, when you asked two professional
television writers about what they thought about current shows, they would not know any of
them pretty much. I'm going. Is that TV? What is that? Is, uh, is after mesh still on the air?
Yeah. And if you're to ask me, I'd be like, do cutscenes and video games count as shows? Yeah, they want, why no Emmys for Mass Effect?
What's going on?
I mean, that's, I mean, if it's Antaromida, I get it.
So this has been a two boy talking to two dudes tonight.
That's right, which is a part of the Flop House podcast.
The Flop House is on the maximum fun network.
And I don't know, I think we're still part of the maximum fun House podcast. The Flop House is on the maximum fun network and I don't know,
I think we're still part of the maximum fun block party, which is a great time. Obviously,
to pick up a new show, if you're a new listener, I'm sorry, I don't know why you're still listening.
Maybe you are folding laundry and just forgot to hit stop.
The, uh, forgot. There was something I was going to do relating to.
Let me check my to-do list.
Laundry, I did that.
Okay.
Post office.
Yeah, somebody's folded laundry.
It's a way and anger.
That's the thing I forget.
Oh, that's what I haven't done yet.
Well, that's, and they're like, okay, like, I don't like this show, but it's, they said
it's a mini.
It's going to be wrapping up soon.
40 minutes. It's probably no be wrapping up soon. 40 minutes.
It's probably no more than 10 minutes long at the most, at the most to earn the name mini.
Yeah, so we're on the maximum fun network.
There's a ton of really great shows.
If you like this for some reason, there's probably much better shows for you to listen to.
Thank you to our producer Alex.
At a certain point, I think we might be doing ourselves a disservice by underselling so much. Oh, I mean, that's, it's this false humility that
I like to adopt. Do you know, no, no, no, you're adopting when the microphones, chicken marks
everybody. Yeah, when the microphones are off, I, I'm prone to fits of grandiose hubris.
As soon as my apartment in this bathroom, as soon as my door is over, he just goes nailed
it, nailed it, nailed it best ever.
And he throws a big after party in a warehouse somewhere like after a retaping of SNL.
Yeah, that's me. Oh, wow.
Uh, thank you, Alex Smith for making this episode sound great.
And like all the episodes, I've been Stewart Wellington for the flop house.
I've been Dan McCoy for the flop house.
I've been Ellie Kaelin from the flop house.
Bye. Bye!