The Flop House - FH Mini 84 - The Peach Boys Smile

Episode Date: July 8, 2023

Dan leads Elliott and Stuart in a discussion of the non-movie things they do to stay happy and sane. (But don't worry, film fans -- there's still plenty of movie talk scattered around. We can't help ourselves!)Check out more info about our upcoming season of streaming shows, FLOP TV, and buy tickets!Donate to the Entertainment Community Fund here, to support those affected by the WGA strike, if you’re so inclined.Ever tried Microdosing? Visit Microdose.com and use FLOP for 30% off + Free Shipping.

Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliott Kaelin and we've got two really exciting brief announcements to make before we get into this mini studio. Wanna go first or should I go first? You can go first. Why do you ask me? What now I'm all nervous because I because I trust you and also I play mind games with you. It's a trust that I weaponize throw you off balance. I do seem to remember us working out the order of things before the show.

And then you nearly the distribution, not the order, merely the distribution. And I love erotic mind games. So we thought maybe I should just take the erotic element out and just do a straight mind game. Turns out don't like that. No, he also likes it when it's a web of seduction and betrayal, not just betrayal. And the web he's okay with.

For more about sexy webs, turn to our previous many, about the 10, sexiest gremlins. But first, I have a read mention. Later in the episode, I'll give you more information, but I wanted to remind our listeners that flop TV, our six episode, once a month live streaming series is coming to you. You can get tickets at the flop house dot simple ticks dot com, but I'll tell you more about that series of live streaming shows later in the episode and do. Can you believe it guys next week is our four hundredth regular flop house episode. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. That's bonkers.

I mean, and we didn't even do the movie bonkers, which I'm sure exists. Damn, that's what, that's what, 388 more episodes than faulty towers. Can you believe it? That's true. We're that much better than faulty towers. Take that, John, please.

I hope probably take it with a really, you know, like really contemporary sense of relevance. Yeah, yeah. He wanted all of them. He wanted all of them. He wanted all of them like a crotchety old man. Yeah. 400 episodes. It's a big milestone. It'd be a bigger milestone if like many other shows we were weekly or we didn't have movie minutes or minis that mess up the.

Technically, it is going to be like our 550 episodes. Yeah, something like that. But for our regular full length episodes where we talk about a full movie, 400 next week, oh my goodness, and Stuart, what special movie treat do we have for the listeners this time? Elliot and Dan gave me this big ass list of movies. And I'm like, no, there's only one movie on this list that I think fulfills all the criteria

of what our 400th episode should be. I said, episode, who knows what I'm doing there? It's something out about that. Because it's a show. It's an episode of a show. Thank you. Thank you. And habited by the ghost of Sean Connery or in habit, it even.

A little bit of that. A little bit of that. And then he messed up with my mouth. We are going to be, we're going to watch and talk about troll to the best worst movie, but we're not actually talking about the documentary best worth movie that's based on the movie troll to. We're talking about troll to. It's not based on the movie troll to. It's not an adaptation of the story. Yeah, but we're a troll to. So Stuart, had you say, well, I mean, we'll talk about this in the next episode, but had you seen this movie before or no? I had, but it was a very long time ago.

It was that like, it was that one of those bad movie nights of yesterday year, where friends would cluster around a table, eating snacks out of bowls provided by somebody's mom. Yeah. And we would enjoy that sort of thing that we found out a video store fermented liquid. Oh, I guess not if you're hanging out with someone someone's mom. Well, no, Stewart, Stewart mom, it brings me bowls and drinking vessels. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to get you. Stewart was, this is when Stewart was 27, but he was hanging out with 14 year old. Right. I was. Yeah. I just go into mom's houses. Yeah. I provide him beer. That's the reason. Actually, now I have an image of Stewart as this college student dating a mom and hanging out with the mom's kids watching bad movies.

And it's got something kind of heartwarming about that. I got offered that a lot when I worked at the hobby store by the line. I believe it. I believe it. Well, that's what we're talking about next week. Troll two. I can't wait. It's super fun.

That'll be our 400th episode, 400 episodes guys. I'll save my congratulations for next week, troll two, I can't wait. It's super fun. That'll be our 400 episode, 400 episodes, guys. I'll save my congratulations for next week. Until then, I'll say get back to work, lazy bones. Okay. Well, I guess that's my, don't rest on your laurels or your hardies. Mike you, which is, um, so, regular listeners know that the so-called main episodes, the ones where we watch bad movie and then we talk about them and then the minis. The ones caught on main. Yeah. I phrase that we invented. When we're horny in an episode, that is one of the main episodes, as you all know. And then on the off weeks, that's every other week, we do a mini episode, often about

as long as one of the main episodes, a little shorter. Tiny short. Yeah. To discount episode. Yeah, we can't do whatever. And we keep pretty loose. Mm-hmm. Oh boy, do we. Just like in a video.

Oh, sloppy Joe. Does it get me loose? We're in a, we're in a very hot room. So who knows where this episode is going to go. Yeah, I'm very close to removing my shirt. I'm not supposed to do all to my aging body. Please. Meanwhile, I'm in a room that is air conditioned. So I'm willing to go as long as it takes. God, I'm just going to keep this episode rolling. So look, it's no secret that the world has

been a difficult place to be in. And we got no other place to go. It's the world. We can't, we can't go somewhere else without opting out entirely, which is not necessarily a good job. You were just telling me the other day how much you're, you think it's getting harder and harder for a straight white man. No, I'll be right. Well, let's swerve away from that and sit on say that I, Dan, you're right. It's just like King Gizzard and the lizard wizard said, there is no planet B. It's just, it's just this one. And so it is harder to do things. I mean, it's, I look at the world around me and I'm like, whatever happened to predictability. Milkman, the paperboy evening TV, everywhere you look. Anyway, you had everything that

you did. Milk to drink a paper to read and a TV to watch. Yep. No, so Dan, so you take this as an endorsement of Nikki Haley's recent tweet about how things were much better when we were younger. Again, no, it's not. I wish, I wish that Nikki Haley was exactly right. So she'd be like, remember when things were easier when you were younger and you went home in the Disney afternoon was two hours of programming that you could just sit and watch.

And then saved by the bell reruns would start on two different channels. Many of the reasons the world is more difficult are because of things that Nikki Haley would approve of. But we're not going to get that. We're not going to get to political day. Come on. We don't need to. It's just been a, it's just been a difficult time for a lot of people. You know, we had a, we had a pandemic, et cetera. A pandemic. What? I don't keep going. What is that? It sounded like you said pandemic, like with a tee, like it was an epidemic of pants. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess there is kind of an epidemic of pants going on.

Like I wear a lot of people are wearing them. Yeah. You know, you know, all over the place, you see some skirts and dresses and shorts and the floor shorts. It's like, it's like in the room. It's like skinny, some of them are blousey, some of them are high rise. It's just like in the are on top of boots with the fur. Yeah, that's that's particularly for machines that are shaped, it's particularly around

the bottom. Yeah. My point is I thought let's let's talk about some nice stuff. Let's talk about some nice stuff. And, you know, with a 400. And why we can't have it? Why we can't have nice things. Yeah. Let's, with a 400th episode coming up, let us discuss some things that we do. I'm going to lead us into discussion of things that we,

the flop house do, the individual members for ourselves, things we enjoy. It seemed like a nice topic. Also, I get to know your topic, you know, 400 episodes in, is the time to do it. Yeah. So I'm going to get to know it. Yeah. So I'm going to meet the floppers. And also, this has a secondary purpose, which is I have many fine qualities as a person, but I also have many negative qualities. Yeah,, but I also have many negative qualities. And one of them is I'm not that good at asking people personal questions about themselves. I was brought up in the Midwest

where I think this was looked upon as prying rather than showing an interest in other humans, which is how most adults that I've encountered have taken it. And so that's like, come off to many people until I know them. And even afterwards, you come off like a cold aloof. Yeah, they call them an ice man. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Thank you. You're providing multiple handsome snuggleable. Okay. Thanks for looking up. So this is also a chance for me to test my question asking skills.

And I'll share my own stuff too, but let's start off not with me. Let's start off with... Let's turn the... Let's turn the... He was boasting of all of the self-care he does on our text chain. And what is it? In opposition to Elliott, who is very busy with a lot of family life and doesn't maybe. Yeah, I'm hoping to inspire Elliott a little here.

I appreciate it. Yeah, since I feel like we do, we are in a sort of the change-up type situation, Stuart, where you're as a life of free-wheeling hedonism and mine is a life of responsibility. And we just, we got to find a copy in, we got to feed it out. He is a, he is a small business owner. It doesn't sound like a small business or, but his business is also a place of freewheeling hedonism. He does.

The bar that, let me read New York magazine. Sure. But most of us, as the most sex partiest libation zone in New York. Stuart's stories to me are mostly about things he's had to unplug. Yeah, I do. I do hear a lot of stories from him about cleaning things that a bathroom's. Story sizes. I had a plumbing issue. You've from as I'm not intended.

Yeah. Let's see things I do. Well, self care. I mean, well, honestly, you know, some of that's just between me and my only fans creator. But I guess that's not entirely just for me because I do exchange money for service. I mean, it is only for fans and and I don't know the occasional loving comment. I don't know if I ever told this story on, on air. I know I'm not. Face on where this is going to go. My number one favorite interaction I ever saw on like an only fan site, a creator had posted

it like a sexy pick. And there was a single comment under that pick and it was from user J.R.R. Tolkien and the comment read, Wank time. And I spit out my drink onto my phone. Thank God. You know, you know that like most humans usually Wank once a day, maybe twice, but Hobbit's Wank, up to five times a day,

they don't weigh. I feel like we've gotten into a weird area almost immediately, but I do want to say like this is always the feeling. The the the JRR Tolkien masturbation area that we do to get into. Yeah, I mean, this is always the feeling that I see whenever like a Sites that has a porn on it also has a comment section for the horn where it's like people are like posting time codes and whatever it's just like minecraft tips. It's like I don't need the exact moment that you achieve orgasm. That's what I don't need. That moment that you achieved orgasm.

That's what the time codes for. I think that it's an expression of extra appreciation. Oh, yeah. You say, you say they've never, it's like using a digital highlighter. Yeah. You've never listened to a song and been like, this drum solo, it's amazing.

Hold on, you gotta hear this and handed the headphones to say, Zach Braff in the waiting room of, I don't know, a doctor's office or something. I feel like I'm changed his life. Yeah, you change my life. I feel like I'm a pretty sex positive person. I don't need comments. I will say, I will say the, the, I was recently reading a survey of comments left on, left on porn videos that where they were, they were kind of classifying it into the different kinds. And you have those and you have the comments where it's like

making fun of the video that they just watched, which I feel is funny because it's like what we do, but for pornography. What we do, but for pornography and the amateur level of that. But then there's also you get very real, you get very real comments from people that are like about how sad they are. And it's like, it's like, I'm going on a date for my first time, guys, wish me luck. And like 10 people are like, good luck, bro, I can't fill us in. Well, that's one of the, that's one of the amazing things about the internet these days is I mean, you see this, I guess, a lot on Reddit where it's like someone is, finally

someone has a place to get like, I know there's a lot of negative feedback on the internet mostly, but you get to find places people to get like, podcast sometimes. Exactly. Yeah. You can get like positive feedback and support from people about things that are hard to get support about in regular life. There was a, there was a, this is, this is another thing I was reading about a while back, where this guy had a sex fantasy involving a woman dressed as a clown and he wanted to

make it happen. And he got so much positive support from people online on Reddit. And they were like, yeah, you're doing it. This is great. They were all really happy for him. So. That's great. It's really fun.

You can't go to your parents' and ask for that, probably. Yeah, in theory now. So to refer, to get back to my actual self-care, as like Dan said, I do a lot of things for self-care. I have structured my life around taking care of myself. It's something that I have a tendency not to do.

So I'm trying to put an effort into things just for me. I think Dan at least can identify with this. And I'll let it as well that I occasionally fall into caretaker mode where I try and put other people's needs and wants before my own. But better than when you fall into sole-taker mode where you have to walk the earth, reaping the souls of the newly dead. Exactly, although that's pretty cool.

Can I go around with my infant son, DiGoro? You have to, yeah. Oh, that's part of the requirements. Yeah. So one of the big things I do is I work out quite a bit. I go to the gym four days a week and on off days, I usually do at least some kind of cardio

and resistance training at home. I know that like working out is for the betterment of my health, but like really I'm lifting weights so I can have like an hour and a half by myself listening to music and have nobody able to like interrupt that time. That's interesting, but I can't visualize it. Is there anywhere I could possibly see videos of you lifting heavy things?

I mean, honestly, my TikTok and Instagram is primarily those things. Yeah, what, I mean, what, here's the question to answer period. What do you think it is about weight lifting in particular that caught your fancy when maybe other exercise? I mean, I think a big part of it is like this being able to watch like slow incremental progress, like I growing up, I had some weight issues and it led to some body issues that were caused by my parents. Thank you. And as I, so I'm not a big fan of weighing myself, I find that like chasing that kind of number to be really bad for me mentally, but like having a number like like the weight that I'm lifting and seeing the amount that

I'm able to lift go up steadily, you know, each month and especially at the beginning when you start weightlifting, you see those numbers jump really rapidly. And then it's also like, I'm a sucker for routine of that kind of thing. So like, being able to go to the gym and know, this is what I'm going to do. I have my rest of times. I get to listen to my music. I like, I count down. I, you know, and just having this like the habit of it, I find really peaceful, like calming. See, this is where you learn that I was thinking of questions through the entire thing, and I just thinking about my instinct game. No, but have you done any, have you done any like weight training?

There was a period when I worked for Columbia University in an administrative position, like, you know, just, you know, doing filing and such, that I had a discount for the gym there. And I would do weights every other day and running every other day. I don't think I ever... To me, I guess that was the question that I was trying to remember. To me, I was always worried so much about form, always worrying about what I was doing was right like what like I did not see Gaines as you would say and do you think that's just because I wasn't working on something I know that you have someone who advises you about like what to do. Yeah, I mean

I I definitely recommend if you're interested in getting into weight training to get a trainer and for me That's also a big part of it is having somebody to keep me accountable and also to get excited for my progress. Like when I like beat a personal record and he's there, like the look on his face is so rewarding. But yeah, I mean, I think part of it is, you wanna work with a trainer so you can get your form right. And also to get some kind of a plan that you, so that you're making sure that you hit all your different muscle groups and you're also giving your muscle

groups time to rest so that you're not just over working the same one over and over. Because I know you probably went in there and you're like, biceps, biceps, biceps. I'm working on these mirror muscles. Yeah, but I want to be Popeye. Well, though, that's the forearms mostly, but those are forms. Yeah. And you started with it, you started with the anchor tattoo. And you were like, I don't get the four arms to fit with these huge tattoos that I put on every tattoo artist when he has to do one of those. He's like, oh, another one, another Popeye want to be. Yeah. They have their dating profile just looking for my olive oil. They say

Little pipe out of this corner. We're not and Dan when you got the chin-end plant implants to be more like pop by that Was when you're going too far and I had just remember when I came to your house and I just stopped you from poking one of your eyes out To making more like pop eye. I remember that I was deep into carriage of that point. I was just muttering half Half-audible things to myself muttering half Audible things We were sitting at dinner one I think we just did the two worst pop-up words Oh, it's me pop-up like it sounds more like bluda

Hello, love is me pop-up It is me how you'll say a pop-up I oh yes, yes We we so yeah more and you can just reach out to us here. Let us on your terrible show. When you do more Popeyes, get your stuff. Lauren Michaels was like, how do I get someone who could do a Popeye? He's always in the news. There's nothing more topical. It's me, a Popeye.

No, it's not going to cut it. Sorry, Paul. I thought we had someone who could do a Betty Boop, but they, it turns out they had that disease where their heads really big and what's up about that better. It turned out they had sexy baby Asia, which is the disease that makes you a sexy baby, or sexy baby steja. Dan, and the worst of it, thank you, the worst of it, Dan, was when we had dinner and you ordered the spinach and you were stuffing it into a pipe, trying to eat it that way,

and you ended up choking on it and I had to give you the Heimlich. Yeah. And you said, if only I could give you the Heimlich. Yeah. And you said, if only I could give myself the Heimlich with these huge forearms. Too hard to do. Uh, I say something, well, we're going to move on soon, but say something nice about your trainer. Why do you like your trainer in particular?

Oh, well, like me, he's a Pisces. Okay. This is the other day. The other day is a day that you're coming who you are. The other day, the other day, Stewart, my wife asked me, does Stuart, is he really believing in horoscope so often? Does he really believe in astrology? And I'm like, I think it started as a bit, but now he does.

Let's see. Well, he, I don't know, I feel like we get along. He's like 25, so I can see his youthful enthusiasm wears off on me. And also it's fun to spend time and work with somebody who's at a different place in their life and a place that I've been in some ways. And he's helping me become more of an athlete. And I feel like I'm helping him become more of an athlete and I feel like I'm helping him become more of a grown up. I'm like, no, you don't have to go to the cheapest

restaurant all the time. You can maybe take your date to a nice restaurant. Mm hmm. Maybe don't go to Panda Express. Maybe go to Pam to take your time. The panther relaxed. Panda, what do you got to do? They have high protein meals at nice restaurants too. Well, thank you, sir. Alliet. I asked you for some. Or Alliet as I pronounced it. Yeah, but that's okay.

Alliet. Okay. When we were thinking of Alliet, you're still everybody, a couple of name. That was that was it. There was one time when Alliet and I were, uh, we're pitching a TV show. I mean, I wanted the title to be Halle, and people were like, we don't know what this means. And I'm like, well, nobody knew what a sign felt was either.

You know, we're a becker, but they still, you know, like sure what a becker is and, uh, blank check did like several bits of that. The beggars that fucking guy that hangs out with Dr. Bunsen. Yeah. What if that would be amazing if Ted Danson was playing that part. Yeah, that's for the whole first season. He's like, wait, it's a different guy. But they both were doctors coats. Here's what I know about Becker, a show that was on a network.

And I think went for at least six seasons, if not more. It's got Ted Danson. He's the titular Becker, I think. He's Becker. He's a doctor. Yeah, doctor Becker. And I think, guys, this will blow your mind. I think he's a little cranky.

He's a cranky doctor. And that's Becker for you. Cool. Okay. When's it going to have it's like research? Is it are we part of the new veterans? Well, like how Frazier, like I said, we're the second Brooklyn based movie podcast to bring you up with it. That's one more and it's a trend called the New York Times style section. Yeah. Do an article about Becker is back. Becker's back, baby. Bafo Bio. Becker's back he never left says Ted Danson who has been staying in their house. Who is this

condition has rapidly deteriorated. He just talks about Becker all the time. He thinks he's Becker now all the time. My life has turned upside down. Says Mary, Steve Burgeon through tears. I married Ted, not back her. The whole quote for the headline, the choir. Anyway, Steve Burgeon quote parentheses clutching the Academy Award that many people forget she won as a young woman. Cryed. What you would have heard about it. She won her for it was for Melvin and Howard. I think it was the many amount Howard Hughes and Melvin the monster. She wanted for best stunts and effects, right? Yeah, she won an animated award and it can be word for animated short.

Yeah. For a ton of whistle, a toot whistle plunk bloom or whatever that dizzy, what about music? It's Let's leave the early works of Jonathan did me behind us for just a moment and ask Kelly back when you had more time to do stuff. What was a thing that you enjoyed to do just for yourself? Let me see if I can think that far back. Let me check my old calendars hold on.

No, no, no you something that I've just started doing again recently. So things that I've always liked to take long walks. I love to take long walks. I love to walk around. At my neighborhood in LA, it's not conducive to long walks because I eventually I get a freeway and my schedule is not conducive to long walks. Luckily, the AMPTP has decided that the writers, the writer's guild of America, should spend weeks walking in circles in front of their buildings. So I've been doing that. But recently, I went back to an old love of mine that will sound very boring, which is,

when I was a kid, I really loved those logic puzzles where you get at like five clues, and you have to figure out like which person wore what color tie on what day of the week or something like that. And you have to do it through partly through deduction and partly through working the grid that you mark off where the answers are. And so now I've decided in the morning and sometimes at night, I'm going to decompress or recompress by doing one of those. And it's been a really nice way to give myself a few minutes of just like,

a few minutes that are not work and are not parenting and cannot in any way be turns towards a practical purpose. Like the thing I love doing more than anything else is reading because I'm a big nerd. But I often find now that when I'm reading something, when I'm reading will either be research for something I'm working on or will be in some way, it's hard not to read something and be like, oh, is there something I can do with this? How can this inspire me in my own work? And with these logic puzzles, it's like,

there is no way this can be connected to my work at all, which is really nice. And so that's something I'm doing for myself, purely for joint. We have to solve a logic mystery in the course of your writing. Oh, you're right. You're right. You know what, forget it, it's work now.

Yeah, I don't do it. It's just more work. Thank you. I appreciate that. Elliot, what if you get an email and it's Ryan Johnson, he's like, hey, I need help come up with a logic puzzle for knives out three and you're like, I'm not no scab. You can't get around the. I mean, if he asked me now, I would say no, you can't do that.

I would say wait till the strike is over, Ryan, then I'll help you because I feel like last time you could have used a little bit more of a mystery considering it was exactly what everyone thought it was going to be. And then the hero said this is dumb out loud. And when the hero is saying that the mystery of the movie is dumb, maybe the movie is not quite as strong as it could be. Here on that side of that argument, maybe the movie's just not for you, Elliot. It's very, I enjoyed it. While I was watching it, and I enjoyed it, and then after it was over, I was like, oh, so there was no mystery in that mystery. Elliot, there was a painting of Brad Pitt from Fight Club, but with Edward Norton's face

over. Yeah. There you go. I also felt like it was terrible that Norton's character was killing people, but I don't know why the Mona Lisa had to suffer for that. I'm not sure what point the movie was making about, about that we should destroy art to get back at rich people. We've gotten off topic back onto our normal top of movies, but I'm curious to know, Elliot,

are you, where do you stand on the oceans 12 divide? Because I feel like there's a similar sense of this, no, this matter. Is that the one where they, I haven't seen it. Is that the one where the Roberts pretends to be Julia Roberts? Yes. That doesn't bother me as well. No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't want to ruin it for you if you haven't seen it. I don't worry, I'm not planning to see it any time soon.

Okay, well can I root for you then? Yes, sure. So one of these things where spoiler alert for everyone listening, like for oceans 12, the the heist that is thwarted towards the end is immaterial because as a series of flashbacks show us, they actually just stole the thing they're battling like stealing with like the world's greatest thief. Like they stole it wear or who you're on the train. Well, see, but that feels like a twist to me. That doesn't feel like an undoing. The same way that like,

if that feels like a, like a later version of like the movie Gambit where the first 10 or 15. You made a movie about Gambit? No, the Channing Tatum wants them to so badly. It's so good. And where this is a movie with, with Shirley McLean and Michael Cain.

They had to be in the movie together because their name is rhyme. And they. McLean Cain gang. Yeah, with the first like 10 or 15 minutes is them pulling off a heist perfectly. And then Michael Cain says, and that's how we're going to do it. And the rest of the movie is them screwing up every single step of the plan as they go along. That's right.

So this it just feels like a reverse version of that that, like that kind of a twist, you know? I don't mind that. I do. I mind what I, what I mind is in the, is in what is it? Now you see me too, where they're doing all that unnecessary stuff to keep them from finding that my friendship. Or it's like, if you just don't keep throwing it to each other, they're never going to find it.

Like why are you making it easier for them to catch you? Well, on a similar, are you the Marx brothers? I guess I'm, Marx brothers do that stuff? I'm spoiling every day. It's a compulsion. Yeah. Today, I'm halfway through Stephen King's book, Billy Summers, and maybe this gets explained later on.

But the whole setup of the book is like, okay, we're gonna put you in this time to assassinate this guy. Now, we're gonna like, we're gonna embed you really early. So like everyone thinks of you as this writer, this mild-mannered writer, and you know, you'll just be part of the community when this happens. And I'm just like this is the worst way to do an assassination. Roll into any sense, Stephen King. I know you're working hard to make it make sense. And I still enjoy reading it, but this is nonsense. No, it's interesting to me, because I'm on the other side of motion.

Like I enjoy watching the movie because it's a lark with a bunch of stars. In the same way that I think you enjoy glass hanging because it's a lark with a bunch of stars, but I find it deflating to be like, oh, all that stuff I was watching didn't mean anything. Whereas at least in glass hanging, I think he's making a point when he does that. At least he's trying to. Maybe. Yeah. Anyway, we wasted a lot of time on irrelevant stuff.

So I asked you just one follow up, Elliot. I mean, Dan, while you were talking about rolling into 10 rolling out, it did maybe think of Jack Reacher. And then I started thinking of a character named Jack Kreacher, who's the animal version of Jack Reacher. Have they done that yet? No, but animaniacs would be fucking silly for that shit. Oh, they would love it. Animaniacs get on this. Or the late mad magazine. Um, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, when I was a kid, someone gave me a book of these damn puzzles and I enjoyed doing it. So I was like, hey, here's something I used to like doing. And I was in a bookstore with my older son and we saw, we were getting something for, I think we were getting a present for my wife and for her, for mother's say, I think. And we saw those and my son was like, you should get one. Like he was very adamant that I should get one. And so I did, you know,

even then I was, I'm looking for the permission of a nine year old to, for things that I can do to it myself, but, you know, I think have to need somebody in their life that indulges them in their habits. Yes. Now, my older son also just loves spending money on things. If you can't buy, he never, he doesn't ask for souvenirs when we go traveling, but if he can't spend money on anything else, he will. He just likes to throw money into the Grand Canyon. He's like, he's like, instead, he's like, instead of a souvenir, I'll just throw $25 of your dollars into the great canyon. I mean, I guess if it still brings you enjoyment, but and meanwhile, my younger son likes

things. It's not the act of spending money. He just likes things and he doesn't care what the price is. So for instance, when we saw there was an elephant bird egg that was on sale for $26,000, this is an extinct type of giant flightless bird. One of the eggses still around. He has been badgering me for weeks now to buy him this egg. And we do not have $26,000 to spend on an old egg.

I keep telling him that and he keeps saying, but it's not that much and it's a good egg. And so guys, how do I, how do I make the money to do this? I got to get the money. I think it go fun me of some kind. Yeah, that's what we'll do. Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to say that before like I think go fund me of some kind. Yeah, that's what we'll do. Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to say that before, like, I would have sort of a guess, Elliot, that you and I were two, we're both two different flavors of childhood know-it-all.

And the idea of being smart was very important to us. So I would guess that logic puzzles like give you that feeling of like, I'm a genius. I'm a genius. Oh, Bugs, Meanie, you thought that was true. That's right. I'm not saying this really now. Meals can't have children. And that's why you're going to jail now, Bugs.

I just mean, I just know that for myself, when I was a kid, that was the appeal for short. Oh, maybe. I mean, I've never been a counter to Stewart. And maybe Stewart's current self. And maybe that's because I have to take a counter to Stewart, and maybe Stewart's current self. And maybe that's because I have to take a page from Stewart's book. That book of called is called Two Boys Says Do You To You. It's all about how you should be your best self according to Stewart.

I've never been comfortable in my own physical body or liked my own physical body. I feel like it's my enemy that I've had to fight every step of the way. And allergic puzzles are entirely a non physical and entirely mental thing, but I need to take a page from Stuart and get back in touch with this old husk and shell of mine that my soul is imprisoned in. And maybe I'll find a way that I enjoy it more. Yeah, I think you should. Well, you know what, that's a good segue kind of, let me talk a little bit about when I'll bring to the table for this first half of the mini. Because so far it's been minimal day.

I know. Just talking about spoiling Stephen King. It's like Stuart's like, let me talk about my feelings about myself and how I've helped that. And I'm like, hey, let me talk about the few minutes I can find myself. And you're like, well, Ocean's 12 has a little bit of a disappointing choice in it. The fourth time I watch now, you see me too, which is eight. Now you see me. You see me do the math. Four times two. Well, it's not quite as good a transition now because we've been saying much about

the origin between, but I also, you know, never had the greatest relationship with my body. I was a, like Stewart, I was a Chevy kid. Unlike Stewart, I am returning to my natural form as I grow older after a period during which I look at myself and I'll photo some like, wow, I was quite slender and I thought I was fat. So there must have been just some dysmorphia going on from when I was young. I'm actually, you know, now much more comfortable where I'm at even though, I don't know, for myself. I'm doing yoga, right? I little did. Well, that's what I'm about to bring up. Yoga. An exercise that is not going to burn a ton of calories, say, because

it's not cardio or what, but it is something that I, the cardio work, I have been enjoying it. I just recently got into doing it. Yeah, all the times I tried it in the past were either in college, it was not, I was something I was taking as a physical course because we had to take a certain number of those. And then I would just sort of try and do it at home to videos, which was never that much fun. But there's a place around the corner now from where we moved videos of yoga, not like videos of Terminator 2 or so. I was trying to yoga Terminator 2. And I'm like, what am I doing? He go through those bars like that. I can't do that. I can't do it.

Doing yoga to videos of Jackie Chan Gifts. But Dan's like, I can't tell if Jackie Chan is in these gifts or not. No, there's just a place around the corner for flat fee. You can get unlimited classes for a month. I have been, I would tell him a couple months into doing yoga three times a week for one hour during those days. And I find that it has made me feel better physically. Obviously, they're like, there's specific reasons I chose yoga in that I have a lot of joint issues and, um, because you're marijuana addiction. Yeah. And an unexpected, well, I mean, that goes great with yoga.

A fondness for pot. No, I, like I was joined issues, I had some other physical ailments that actually have mysteriously like gotten a lot better since I've been doing it. So I'm like, oh, this is good for me. But also the thing that made me almost immediately be interested in it and enjoy it in a way that I've never enjoyed exercise before is I felt like it was elevating my mood specifically, which is a thing that people talk about with exercise, but I've never felt as directly. And I think there's something about the way it works the whole body, you

know, like slowly and methodically, and has a lot in common with meditation that has allowed me to regulate my emotions more effectively, which has always been one of my big issues. Like, I rarely like stay mad at anyone, but I can get mad quickly. And that's not a good way to to like patience and stuff like that. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. So that's what I'm bringing. In lieu of questions, let's talk about a few people that sponsor our show. And by people, I mean corporations because I'm Mitt Romney. A reference that gets older and harder for people to remember as time goes on. Hey, remember this is this thing called the 2012 election and this is the

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that we're calling flop TV. That's right. It's kind of like if the shows that we're calling flop TV. That's right. It's kind of like if the flop house had our own TV show. So we're doing six one hour-ish episodes that are going to be once a month. It's mostly the first Saturday of every month, except for September to avoid Labor Day. And each of these episodes, we'll be tackling some of the most requested and most talked about bad movies in history, in the history of bad movies that is. And they're all movies we have not done before. These are all new movies to us, but movies we have mentioned many times, maybe without

having seen them. Which movies are they? In August, we're talking Beast Master 2 through the portal of time. That's our first one. It's September. It's Cool World. In October. It's, I know, Stewart.

Stewart. Don't worry guys, I'm too much. Wait till that wait for the episode in October. It's an all American meat double feature of hamburger the motion picture and hot dog the movie. The two movies that needed subtitles so people would know they were not food at the movie theater. In November, it's over the top. Maybe the greatest sports movie ever made about arm wrestling. In December, it's ballistic X versus sever. The movie that finally brought America's favorite IP characters X and sever to the big screen for the first time.

And in January, damn it, the January is new key. We're doing new key in January. Oh God, a movie I've seen way too many times considering it was the second worst movie I've ever seen. Damned to have you ever seen new key before? No, what are we celebrating celebrate the changing of the year. I've really been seeing New Key because, and I say this without any iron, this is a thing that happens when you work with someone in a comedy show for over a decade.

I've seen your presentation on New Key at least nine times. Oh, for sure. The presentation where the central messages do not watch Newke. Yeah, we're going to be watching it for a year. I, you know, every year you have this, you go into New Year's with a little bit of hope that maybe the next year is going to be better than the, the suffering and trauma that you just have gone through in the past year. You know, often overlooking all the good things that happen. But then you realize

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excited about it. It is a streamlined, I think less patience pushing for the audience version of these shows. It's going to be really fun. And I think Dan and Stu and I are excited to bring a new level of energy and excitement to these classic bad movies. Guys, is there anything you want to say about flop TV? Other than the fact that tickets are at the flophouse.simpletics.com before we go back to the show. Yeah. So if nobody buys tickets, do we not have to watch Nuke? No, you still have to watch, actually, you know what? If nobody buys tickets, I could say this because people have already bought a lot of tickets.

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Okay. We were just spending time on what the lettuce? Yeah, that to the meat of the show. Okay. We were just spending time on what the lettuce. Yeah, that was the lettuce of the show. The lettuce, yeah. And a little bit onions. Yeah, you're veggies, little onions. They're vegetables. Yeah, speaking of which, I mean, I could talk about, I'm going to reverse the order back

around. It's nature. And I'll kick this one off. And I could talk about laboriously assembling meals, which is the thing that I enjoy. Don't do it. Swallow.com, slice flop. It's called cooking and I do it. But I think I'll talk about instead drawing.

And I think that I I guess, to analyze myself, the through line that I have with the things that I enjoy. And I see it with you guys' stuff, too, is that it is kind of a way to be creating something, to be doing something active while shutting your brain down. And drawing, you know, like shutting your brain down, but you're accessing it and entirely kind of different part of it. And it was a thing that I did a lot as a kid. It was probably my first, like, and most obvious talent.

And then, of course, I tacked away from that because why do the easy thing? You know, why stick with the thing that you're most clearly good at? And so I went into performing and writing instead, but... Which you suck at? Yeah, yeah, that's the part of it that builds character. You're a lot like Harrison Burj. Yeah.

I wanted to lay myself down. Yeah. No, but it's a thing that I didn't do a lot of for a few years or almost like I've decade probably as an adult. First, I just got too far into, you know, like once I was writing professionally, I'm like, you know, I'm going to, like my energy is over here now. And then there was a time that I think I was maybe a little down, I didn't want to do anything. But then I got back into it during the pandemic in a way that was a lot more intentional. I would draw pretty much every day. And I

also took a couple of Zoom classes as a way of kind of during the pandemic. It was like, well, you know, we have, we have this time now. Some of us at least two then, like, we're working from home. I know I love people didn't have that luxury, but we can't go and do things. So I took some figure drawing classes and was doing it regularly and really started loving it again. And I, you know, largely self-taught, you know, other than these classes, like, you know, I had largely self-taught, you know, other than these classes. Like, you know, I had art in high school in college, but I'm not like an art student. You didn't go to art school. He didn't have a beret. No goatee. But it's been interesting to see. When you when you smoked, you put the cigarettes

between two fingers like an American, and you didn't hold it like a Nazi or a Frenchman between two world figures. Yeah. Or with a big cigarette holder. Well, you didn't have a monocle. You weren't the penguin basically. You were wearing a black turtleneck. Yeah. When you light something you applauded, you clapped your hands, you didn't snap your fingers. Because we are broadcasters and it's more interesting to sort of draw moral from these things, I think that if I were to analyze why I got a lot better, I think, at drawing when I was older, was that it's interesting to see

how different creative fields influence one another because in writing I had to be taught especially at the Daily Show 98% of your work will will and can and will be thrown away at any time. You can't get too attached to anything and it was kind of a nice attitude to bring into drawing, where like, I was not as hung up on the goal. Like, I think you have to get better at something, you have to get to enjoy the process too, or else you're always going to be speeding towards the goal. You're always going to be taking shortcuts or not learning or pushing yourself. So you have to learn to enjoy doing the thing. Okay, yeah, I can see that. Yeah, I think that's true.

Elliott, back around to you. So, but I have a question. Okay, I remember one of the, when I first met you, Dan, I was in college and one of the ways. What's the wait, what song should we put over the mod types that we're fading into about of the you guys meeting? Yeah, probably fucked the pain away by peaches. Yeah, not all along the watchtower because then you'll think that we're watching back her time in Vietnam. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. This isn't that episode of Euphoria where they do a flashback that must be the 90s, but the whole thing is shot and scored like it's a fucking 70s. It's crazy. Okay. So I'm just going to pick to the moon and back by Savage Garden. Okay. Great. That's the perfect line. Yeah. So when we first met, you were doing a comic strip for the school paper, the school, the college newspaper and the early word, it was the word, yeah, early word. And you're, I have a collection of that comic strip. It's true.

It's true. It's a consensus, right? Yeah, it was good stuff. And so do you, do you have an intention of doing more strip work or do you, do you just like doing like one off illustrations or, because I've seen a lot of your stuff, but I haven't seen you do many strips since then. That's true. I used to do a lot of one panel comics now.

You do a lot of one panel comics now. Yeah. I used to not like one panel comics, just as my personal, you know, I don't know. Like they never were as funny to me as something that was so developed as Kerry Larson to be a guest. I mean, you know, far side probably one of the best case scenarios. Like I like the far side a lot, but it was not my thing compared to strips. But now I just I just want to do single gags and like not worry about.

I don't know. I just don't want to worry about developing a story. And like I do that with on the other side with writing, like I'm not as interested in it when I'm illustrating. But also, Menzie, you don't have to draw the same character multiple times and have a continuity. Yeah. Have the book weird. Figure out what they look like from different angles.

Oh, speaking of which, I, you know, I might as well plug myself if you want to see. Well, well, on camera, Dan, you can do it whatever you want in your private life. On camera, on camera. On camera, on camera. I'm see. Yeah, well, on can't damn you do it. Whatever you want. You're going to be on camera on and do it on. I'm curious. Yeah, I'm curious. No, I have an Instagram called Dan McCoy draws. If you want to look at anything, I don't really make my personal Instagram totally open to everyone because you know, you gotta

have some privacy. But this one's open. So if you want to see a damnically draw, just damn the coins drawing, so you can go to damn. Now she's going to make people want to be in that personal Instagram even more. Now they made it so forbidden. The one where you plug yourself. Allie, allie, what else do you do to bring yourself joy? I'm going to say, Dan, it's going to be like, I'm stealing a page out of your book, your sketchbook that is because I've also started drawing again. Drawing was also something that came to me very easily when I was younger. I won the art award from the graduating class in high school.

And then I kind of, you drew that painting of the, of the different Joker eras, all sitting around playing cards. Yeah, exactly. It was, it was, it was they're all playing cards together in, you know, like Scarface is there and James Gandalfini. Wait, so they, for some reason, Joker or was it, it's, it's, it's wild. Yeah. So Scarface is there, James Gandalfini. Yeah. And of course, Aisy is sitting there. A Columbus there because he set aside his hatred of crime for one night. He's like, a car. He's in the background.

Yeah. And of course, and James Madison. And the, so I, so I really wanted to specialize on art that would hang up in deli's diners and pizzerias. And so that's why I did a series where it was Elvis Presley, Humphrey Bogart, Marilyn Monroe, and James Dean looking at pictures of James Gandalfine and Don Corleone playing cards. Yeah. So the, no, I, but then once I focused on writing, similar to Dan, I started focusing on writing and drawing

felt by the wayside. It was something that I was good at it, but I was never going to be great at it. And so I was like, why am I bothering at this? They're always people who've been, I'll never be Al Greco. They'll always be artists better than me. And now I'm picking it up without a feeling of competition, without a feeling of this is going to be part of my career in any way. And my wife got me a, I told her once we went to a, like a fancy stationary store and they had these great, very expensive

sketchbooks. And I was like, I wish I could get one of these, but I feel like I'd be too held back by the pressure that the pictures that I was drawing would have to be good enough to justify being in a sketchbook like that. Especially since eventually I'll just fill it up. Like it's not, it's not going to last me forever. And for as part of my birthday present last year, she got me a very nice sketchbook and like these kind of Japanese pencils that are really great. Cool. And so I've just been kind of drawing stuff in that.

I do a lot of drawing pictures from photographs. I'll draw pictures of animals. I'll draw pictures of like old Hollywood people. I've been working on trying doing on doing multiples of this one image of Groucho Marx that I want to get really good at. And that has been a good way to, like we're saying, to do creative work that is not for a professional purpose or for a goal, but is just in enjoying the process of it.

But I need to carve out more time to do that, because I'll often save it till the end of the day, and then I'm too tired. And the idea of looking at a thing and then trying to replicate it is exhausting. But sometimes you can just lose yourself and draw on a lot of scales when you're copying a picture of a monitor lizard. And it's super fun, very hypnotic. I don't want to push you beyond your comfort levels, but I haven't seen any of these

drawings. So if there's ever anyone that you particularly like, I would love to see it, but you don't have to. I'll send to you. Well, they're all this fucking modeled or lizard. They're all on my, they're all on my Instagram feed, Elliot draws. Now, Dan, I've preemptively blocked you from seeing me. Oh, wow. No, I, I'll send you some pictures of those, but they're not, not for fully public consumption, because then I'll feel pressure for them to be good, you know. No, I know. I honestly honestly once I started my Instagram feed I felt like a minor

Minor lessening of my joy, but I also I don't know I like having a place that I can sort of Put all this stuff and speaking of wives giving art Gifts, yeah, I want to plug a great gift that I got for my birthday from Audrey, where there's this book that is a bunch of colorful smudges. Basically, colorful watercolor smudges that you are then encouraged to do it on top of, whatever workshop like you see in the thing, you add some lines. And it's a, I found that, you know, it's not the same level of full creativity. Maybe that you get out of drawing your own thing, but it has led to a lot more like whimsical drawings with

a lot of movement and motion that I think are cool. So, do I, do I ever get you that? I've in Brunetti cartooning book. I know it's like based on the the course he taught. I have it. I don't know whether you got it for me or whether I've done at least some of the lessons in it. And I thought that was a lot of fun. So I'm not going to talk about drawing, although that was something that I used to do. But it's not something that is. Now it's just something that you used to do. Yeah, Ellie, I'm surprised you didn't say singing. I mean, I'm this singing. That's a professional thing. Yeah.

This professional thing. And also I do that not just for my enjoyment, but for the irritation of others. I guess it's a source of enjoyment for me. Yeah. Going back to the daily show again, which I guess is a source of enjoyment for me. Yeah. Going back to the daily show again, I remember fondly standing in line behind Elliott as he would sing about every dish that was in front of him. Oh, wow. And the, yeah, everybody else is just like tap on their toes and closing their eyes, and those themselves in the music.

Oh, workwood. Workwood stopped for the until I was done. And people are just singing again, they'd sing. Workwood stop for the until I was done and people are singing again. They'd say, well, get to the lunchroom. Ellie is singing. Uh-huh. Yes. Somebody time.

Somebody runs to a phone so they call the local radio station. I know they're going to call their cousin, Marvin Barry, and tell them about. They go, you know, they don't be ridiculous. They go, this is your cousin, Marvin Barry. You know, that's new sound you're looking for, the one you want to use to torture people at Quantanamo Bay. Well, listen to this. And I'm just going like, Roggaly, Roggaly, what am I going to have?

Sorry, sir. What are you? What's your thing? The interview. Oh, yeah. Now, I mean, I think the thing is that I think I think a through line for all of us is that working in a that we're lucky enough to have a Have like a career in a creative field, but it also part of the downside is that it leads us all to kind of see every creative work we do as a potential like Avenue for business or a job. And I have to work really hard to not do that.

So I, I do a lot of model painting and I do some like role playing game stuff. And while I've done role playing game stuff on, you know, on, on our bonus content, and it's great. And you should check it out. on, you know, on our bonus content. And it's great. And you should check it out. The, it's important to me to also have a space for doing those things where it's, there's no performance to it. I mean, there's performance, but there's no like, I'm not doing this for anyone else other than me and the people that I'm playing a game with. It's important to me to have that out with that. You need, you need something that's creative where you're not

thinking, can I make money off of this? Is this something that I can, that eventually will lead to a payday or professional bump or something like that? And it's nice to have a place like that where I can, with like, robling stuff that I can experiment and I can, I don't have to worry about, you know, being able to present a finished product to anyone. And when it comes to model painting, it's something, model painting's actually kind of interesting

for me is that it's really helpful for me to have, like put myself under strict goals. Like I paint warhammer models that you use to play in war games. And I don't have a lot of time to play games anymore, but now I schedule games as an excuse to give me a deadline. So I push myself to get stuff done.

And then when I actually get that stuff done, it feels really great. And that sense of accomplishments really cool. And then I kind of move on to the next thing. I don't like sit around forever, like looking at the thing I painted. It's just like feeling like I accomplished something something even if it's in some ways trivial. It still feels good. And it gives me that like the whatever the is it's a tone in what is it the dopamine boost, whatever the thing is that makes you like I did something good.

Cadamine. It's cold. Yeah, it's the cat me special case. Naturally occurring catamine. Yeah. Well, this has been really sweet. You know what? I'm glad we did this in part because I don't get to talk to you enough as friends. Yeah, that's true. We're always talking about all this business over here. Well, this is the other lesson is when you also, we're lucky enough to do

something professionally with our best friends, that it also means that you have to make time for the friendship to not just be the professional thing. And we're not always the best at that. We can be guilty of making those things blur too much, especially since guys, I've got a new business venture for us. It's called Flop House Rent a Friend. That's right. It's a long-term rental where a Flop house fan can rent one of us for years of friendship. And you get depending on the package, depending on

how big the package is. Yeah. So this is sort of like a Truman show cameo kind of. Yeah, exactly, but we're aware of it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, it seems like that seems pretty messed up. Does anybody else know about this? It seems everybody in the world, it's the highest-rate television show in the world. But Truman didn't know about it. Yeah.

Don't watch all that. Don't watch all that. Or did they grow him rapidly? Do they have technology to make you grow up? No, he started as a child. He was essentially a slave owned by Ed Harris and put on display for the rest of the world. Yes, he did not have control over his own life, but he didn't know about it.

Yeah. Okay. I just watched the movie. I just now realized that he just won. He was 100% named Truman because that rhymes with human. I'm both mad at the movie for it. And I mad at myself for not realizing it earlier. I didn't notice it either.

I didn't notice it either. But wow, that's amazing. But isn't this like the human show? Yes. Oh my god. Anyway, ponder that while having your microdose gummies. This show is edited and produced by Alex Smith who is doing it currently with one eye due to a surgery he had to do. I'm just saying this to say feel better Alex.

I hope it was okay. Yeah, and so the audience, but on the Twitter, I guess it's fine. So that the audience, I mean, I talked to him the other day, he seems like he's recovering. Okay, good. He doesn't tell us forifying is initially it sounded.

What a hard worker he is, he's doing this. And also what bad bosses we are, that we're making that you do this. Yeah, he told us he could do it. Yeah, but sometimes people need permission to take time off. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But Alex, you got it, but Alex, get this ready in time. Alex, if you need time, off, tell me. And he'll say no. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you to maximum fun. Go to MaximumFun.org for other great shows on this podcast network But for this episode of the flop house. I've been Dan McCoy. I'm always Stuart Wellington and I'll be Elliott Kaelin until I can find something better to be

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