The Flop House - FH Mini 90 - Cruising Along, with Jonathan Coulton and Paul Sabourin

Episode Date: September 30, 2023

We welcome singer-songwriter Jonathan Coulton and Paul Sabourin of Paul and Storm to talk about cruise ship movies, in honor of their annual seagoing nerdfest, the JoCo Cruise!Check out FLOP TV! You can buy tickets here!Donate to the Entertainment Community Fund, to support those still affected by the SAG/AFTRA strike.

Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house. Mini. What? I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stewart Wellington. I'm sorry, I got thrown off. Stewart was so delighted, by the way, I said that. I'm surprised that we're doing a mini.

We're doing a real episode. And I'm Elliot Kaelin being professional for a moment to say that later on in the show, I'm going to tell you how to see our next episode of Flot TV, our online broadcast show, October 7th is our next episode. We're going to be talking about the American Meat Double Feature of Hot Dog the Movie and Hamburger the Motion Picture. Go to theflotpouse.simpletics.com for tickets. And I'll also tell you later more about our live shows at Videots in Los Angeles Thursday,

October 19th, Videatesfoundation.org for tickets to information. But I'll tell you about that later. First, Dan, what's going on? I think we have some special guests or maybe you wanted to wait to announce them. I don't know. You didn't tell us what you were doing on this mini. On this mini, we have two special guests. We have Jonathan Colton, who you may know from songs. And also what an intro. That's why Dan won an intro. Dan won an entry last year for best intros.

Now you see what you see what what wowed the judges. It's very kind of you to say Dan. Thank you so much. And we also have Paul support who you may also know from songs from other songs, other songs, and occasionally Jonathan songs. Yep. And you know from, I don't know, Justin McRoy yelling and having to get him some, what does he drink? Corvazier, what does he have?

Well, for a long time, he drank white wine, which was white claw and wine mixed together. That sounds awful. We're getting all the behind the scenes secrets. Yeah. Um, and, uh, and they're on, uh, in part because, part because they do a cruise. The, the, the, the Joko cruise, as I mentioned before. I like, I like, Daniel mentioned they do a cruise as if we have mentioned cruise is already, which we have not. I'm sorry, Elliot. I was distracted by the ghost arm that appeared behind you.

Yeah, that was the arm of the, that was the arm of my ghostly wife appearing in the room to get something and puncturing through my background. I won't forget you have to pick up the kids at three. Well, I do have to pick up one of my kids at three. Get out of my life, get out of my life. Stop watching me. Well, we should ask you a little bit about what this cruise is, but because of this cruise, we're talking about cruise movies, movies set on boats.

And movies with Tom Cruise. Yeah. Well, that was going to be the final joke of the show, but we can put it up here. Yeah. So we're going to talk about movie set on boats, but specifically cruise ships, not just like, you know, I don't know. Not like dead calm.

Yeah, or a white squal. White claw, which is white squal mixed with white wine or dead squal. Any combination of those. Or calm squal. Which is not much of a squal. Yeah. No, or squal squal, which is the sequel to one of them, but I'm not sure which. Yeah, or squally, which is about sequel to one of them, but I'm not sure which or squally, which is about a robot who has a boat, I guess.

Um, let's, you know, let's start. Let's jump right into it, actually. Let's do it that way. Um, so do we want to say anything more about the, about the, the, the, the, well, I was gonna go through a couple of the moot, you know, Ellie, can I mention a couple of my songs? Can I share some of my songs? I know, I mean, there's nothing more helpful than second guessing, Ellie. I want to tell you that right up front. I was saying, why

don't we do it this way? Maybe we go through a couple of movies and then be like, now how does this compare to the cruise? What happens on your cruise? I'd also like to say since we're at a stopping point as a long time fan of the show, to literally have a front row seat to be derailing of Dan, is kind of exhilarating. I mean, the thing is I didn't hurt it in my car so often or just through my, my earbuds to have it like here in my place. Yeah. I did.

It's in sense around. Yeah, 40x. The funny thing is it sounds like there's no preparation at all. I did spend most of the morning, like taking notes for the specific many. But you can't do more preparation than that than to take notes in the morning before the recording. So continue to get us back. I'm just pointing out it just doesn't have to be this way. There is another way. Just like Sparks said on the news film, doesn't have to be this way. So let's talk about oddly the most Oscar-enominated film we will talk about. And that is the Poseidon of Adventure in 1972, which I was shocked to learn was not needed for a total of eight

Academy Awards. Yeah. Winning for best song and best visual effects. Now this. Can you, I'm a couple of bars of that song for a steam. The Poseidon adventure. Exciting and new. I don't even know how the, I believe there's that to be a morning after.

There's got to be a morning after there's got to be a morning after Yeah, I'm down for songs I think From song yeah, yeah welcome aboard Dan You did get a fuller intro then when Joba brings it on the show and Dan goes, I'll let our guest introduce himself. What are you doing? You know what, that song is factually true though, there does have to be a morning after. So it wins on the merits of the case. That was the category was outstandingly factual song. Songs that cannot possibly be false.

It was a song. It was up against I'm blue, which ended up being disqualified because there's another singer was not blue. He was just taking a character of a blue guy, lives in a blue house as a blue car. He was Dobu D, but he was not Dobu Dye. And that just qualified. You just get lost really. So this film, just a short summer, it's a disaster film. It's about a boat that overturns on New Year's Eve due to a tsunami. Probably a ship. Sure, and then they have to make their way to the top of the boat, which is what was formally

the bottom of the boat. And this is based on a novel. It was structured by a Ronald Neem. It was sort of a freaky Friday situation where the top of the boat and the bottom of the space. Yeah, they wished on a magic skull to do that. They didn't have fountain at the same time. Ronald Neem was the director.

He also did director of the film's hopscotch, Scrooge and the Prime of Miss Jean Brody, and was a writer of David Leane's early films, Great Executations. One of them. The famous team. You know them from songs. I had never looked into what the sequel was. There's a sequel beyond the Poseidon adventure about a salvage team going to the original

ship and getting trapped. And that has Michael Cain in it. It's supposed to be awful. There was a Wolfgang Peterson Kurt Russell remake. You may know that. I was going to say, do you think the sequel should have been just called Poseidon Adventures? Or do you think Beyond is enough? Because I'm not a big fan of Beyond because like that's just setting expectations to. Yeah, you know the space. Yeah. It both sounds like very like,

where it's going to be vegan, you know, exciting and extreme, like beyond, but it also is the most vague thing you can say. It's like, yeah, you know, just like all beyond that is another thing. Well, you don't want to, you don't want to say Poseidon Adventure again. That doesn't. Yeah, yeah. What about Poseidon's adventure with the light? More Poseidon's adventure. We're the like two dudes.

Poseidon's two adventures. There's two gods of the ocean. I would have loved to his upside down now. If the if the sequel had started by like the the group of people finally reached the bottom slash top of the boat and then another roadway comes and reflips the boat or tips it sort of on. Now they go to the top to the bow as they say. Have you guys seen this movie?

I saw this movie. I remember enjoying it basically. It is, you know, over long like a lot of those 70s disaster films. And start act star studded. Yeah, it was one of those was that was an early Irwin Allen. It has five Oscar winners in the cast. Gene Hackman, Ernest Borg-9, Jack Albertson, Shelley Winners, and Red Buttons. All of your buttons. Red Buttons. Red Buttons, when an Academy were for sign-R. I don't know,

that was beyond. I think it was for sign-R, but I'm going to double check. His role was originally supposed to be Gene Wilder, but Gene Wilder dropped out. The character was named Gene Wilder. be Gene Wilder, but Gene Wilder dropped out. I would. It was about the character was named Gene Wilder. Yeah. Yeah. Flanked in Wilder in Poseidon, the Gene Wilder. Did we talk about this on the podcast yet that I read a while back that Gene Wilder was

supposed to star in the movie Magic that Anthony Hopkins ended up starring in? Imagine how about the crazy ventriloquist. Imagine how much better that movie would have been. Oh, that would have been crazy. That scene where Andy Hopkins is like using his ventriloquist, his magic tricks to seduce a woman and make her fall in love with them. And I was like, this doesn't quite work. But Gene Wilder would have been able to pull it off amazingly well. Yes, it was it was it was Sinara that red buttons one is. Or maybe a f. Perhaps if if Anthony Hopkins was still playing the same role, but Gene Wilder was playing

the role of the ventriloquist dummy. But they played it totally straight. Like nobody, nobody breaks the K-fabe that it's like on a Darwin Greg when Teller would play a cat and there's a character that noticed it was a man and a cat costume. I think that's a compliment, Greg. That wacky pair. Did they ever get it mixed together? It was almost comical how mismatch they were. I've never actually seen magic, but I think Alan Moore

was the first person on that. But Alan Moore talks about it in his mysteral course as an example of the translation from fiction to written fiction to film didn't quite work because the initial reveal doesn't make, isn't the shock that it was when you're reading about it because you can see that it's a dummy basically. That makes sense. I haven't gotten to that lesson yet. Stuart and I were going to take the Alan Moore Maestro course together and Stuart raised ahead of me and I'm still stuck in like the

first three. Now he's more of a Maestro than you. I have no children time. Yeah, that's the difference for sure. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Recommitting to Dan's original bit, I will say that the Joko Kru spends far less time upside down than the Poseidon adventure does.

Okay. That's one difference. I don't want to over promise that it spends absolutely no time. It feels like it has been upside down zero times to date. Well, we do, we do a quick role, but we roll. Well, yeah, we do Eskimo rolls. I mean, every time it doesn't Eskimo roll. For the most part, for the most part, it is the individual cruise goers decision to be

upside down or not, and they can do that on their own. It's an off, it's an on their own. Yeah, as long as we're recommitting to things that I said, I have any of you see the side of adventure. I haven't seen this since I was a kid. I used to play a lot on like TNT when I was a kid, and I think I saw it in pieces, but I don't think I've ever actually sat down and watched it from beginning to end. I'm the same as Elliot. Yeah, I have a similar relationship. I vaguely remember seeing it and Gene Hackman plays

a priest. Yes. Is he a very musketeer priest? He's like a kind of a disillusioned priest. Yeah, he's a no bullshit priest. He's a cool Gene Hackman priest. Yeah. Yeah, I remember there's one scene where he one scene where he's, he's trying to say, he has to do something to save everybody.

He jumps onto a steam platform. He's got a turn off a steam pipe. Yeah. He's from the, the wheel and he's turning it and it's burning his hands. Oh, wow. You're gladiators. Yes, just like that. Yeah.

And then he's finally has to, he's, he's closed the steam valve and then he can't get back. And so he just let's go and falls into the water and dies. And I remember watching that as a kid is like, why didn't he even try to get back to the platform? Did he like, give up, like, can opener or something? He figured, yeah, he yelled belly flaw. Yeah, he said mommy, watch me, mommy, mommy, watch me.

As a kid, he was Shelley Winters, flop. Yeah. I said, Mommy, watch me. Mommy, Mommy, watch me. As a baby. It was Shelley Winters, right? Yeah. As a priest, he figured, you know, like, oh, greater love, Hath no man. So if I die right now, I am guaranteed to get where I want to go. Actually, somebody says a little selfish. It's kind of a selfish move. It is.

I actually, I've watched the movie probably the most recently. A couple of years back, I came across it on TNT as I do with all things. They took the ring from hearing Shawshank Redemption to start Shawshank Redemption. Yeah, they were contractually obligated to spend two hours not showing Shawshank. But in that last scene, he is spending that time shutting off the valve, basically screaming at God, like really pissed at God. No more stuff, because they were like almost at the top

and the Steve Alvin often had killed one last person. I can't remember who. And so maybe he's not going. So you died faithless. Yeah, and he actually, like the water he falls into is like, it's got, it's got an oil fire across the top of the stove. So fire water, yeah.

It's fire water, which is, you know, not the subtlest of symbolism. If you didn't splash, though, we'd probably put those flames out. So that's true. It's not really how oil on water works necessarily, but it could be, yeah. I'm not a biologist.

I love it. I love it. I would be the idea that Gene Hackman dies saving other people, but also faithless. And so it goes to Heaven's court to figure it out. You know, like, you know, this is a tough one. It's tough. Yeah.

That should have been beyond the Poseidon adventure. There it is. It's, it's him and Albert Brooks defending their lives in heaven. Yeah. Well, let's move on to an equally, uh, uh, a lot in film boat trip from 2002. And how many, how many Oscars was boat trip from 2002. And how many Oscars was boat trip nominated? How many did it win?

It was nominated for a razzy, but lost to Giley. And of course, no, no, the razzies are nonsense. Yes, I even more nonsense than the Oscars, which is so awful. That was because I pointedly didn't put in my notes, but Paul set me up for it well enough that I'm like, yeah. So it starts Cuba, good in junior, Horatio, Sans, Vivica, A Fox, Linchet, Roger Moore, what a cast.

Directed. So that's at least one Oscar winner. How many Oscars were in that one? Cuba, good in junior. Yeah, I don't guess. Roger. One Oscar for gold, right? For best.

For best. For best. He was nominated for folks and then I guess for gold right for best for best. For best. He was nominated for folks and then he won for gold. It was a big mix up. Yeah. Also, while I'm looking at the caseless now also in it, Thomas

Lenin Richard Roundtree, Will Farrell. Yeah. But lots of stars in smaller roles. Yeah, well, comedy. It was that that well-known comedy duo, Will Farrell and Richard Roundtree. It was directed and co-written by Mort Nathan, who in the plus column wrote a bunch of

golden girls and the film Kingpin. And the minus was creator of the secret diary of Desmond Pfeiffer. Oh, Desmond Pfeiffer, Dan, it's for Desmond Pfeiffer. Is it Pfeiffer? What a, what a, what a, what an interestingly Miss Begotten show that was. Are you guys familiar with that show? Is that the one where, was it Chee McBride or someone is the president's? Yes, he's Abraham Lincoln's butler during the Civil War.

And the idea is that this is the true story of it, that Abraham Lincoln, everyone in the White House, they're all bumbling idiots. And it was basically Benson. And like the black butler is the only character who it, that Abraham Lincoln, everyone in the White House, they're all bumbling idiots. And it was basically Benson and like the black butlers, the only characters keeping things afloat. But also there were so many like Abraham Lincoln gay jokes and things like that. And it was, ugh, it was not a, uh, perchance was this a sitcom in the early to mid 90s? It certainly was. Was it on the VPN?

I believe so. Uh, yeah. Yeah. So similarly tasteful concept here. There's two straight men on the make looking for ladies are booked on a gay cruise because their gay travel agent was mad at them. So this was filmed in 2001, but released in 2003. It has an 18 out of 100 on Metacritic. And the IMDB trivia says, Sir Roger Moore did this movie

for the money and for a free vacation. He didn't do it for the loving gig. So have any of you seen boat trip 2002? Cause I have not seen boat trip. I've not seen, I feel like I got the gist from the preview that I watched this morning in preparation for this. Yeah. I will also say when I when I looked it up on, and I don't know what it was on, what it was available on, but it had a little tag. Right. Jerry and channel probably, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I had a little tag that said LGBTQ. So it's. Okay. Yeah. So you're welcome. You have to assume there's some face saving moment at the end where the characters learn something about, I don't know about gay people or maybe not. That is what Wikipedia told me that yes, they turned around their opinions. But I remember that even at the time, even at the different era of 2002, this was widely to cry. It's like, what is this homophobic nonsense? What is this thing?

I cannot believe that we've been let down by Cuba-gooding juniors. Famous ability to choose quality films. This is amazing to me is this came out five years before I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry, which, which it's like, I don't, the, the idea that, uh, the idea that five years later, they were still making movies kind of like this, you know, in a way. Yeah. They've probably been in the draw on the drawing board for a long time. You don't want to let go of an idea, even if it becomes an increasingly bad idea over time. Yeah. That's a good one.

That's how I work anyway. So I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and say I did not see this movie. bad idea over time. That's a good idea. That's how I work anyway. So I'm gonna go ahead and say I did not see this movie. Yeah, you're gonna go ahead and say that. I'm gonna go ahead and admit that. I feel like I didn't rush to the theaters to and throw them a bag full of money and say I don't like hair care how much it costs. Get me on the boat trip. I feel like Dan, you watch bad movies as just part of your lifestyle. Yeah, sure. Of all of us, you're the one most likely to watch one. I was born in the dark.

You've nearly adopted it. It's with your skin. No, I mean, that's true, but like there's certain, like bad comedies, obviously just painful, not fun most of the time. And stuff that I find morally repugnant. So, I'm like, there's bad and then there's misbegotten. Yeah. But I have not seen it yet.

I think what happened is Dan checked and make sure there weren't any sexual situations. I'm sure that there were sexual situations. Isn't that weight, isn't that the tag that you look for on your same action? That's the one. Well, that in the TV guide for anyone who is not a perverted teenager in the 1990s, when you look at the TV guide to see what late night movies were worth watching, if it's a nudity,

no, that's not going to be great. That's not going to be good. That's what that's what. That's what one but exactly. It might be who knows, might be an animal's but you don't know. And but if it's had sexual situations, oh boy, that's where the real nudity belongs. Now, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you know, like, I, you can't disagree with science, Dan. I swear.

I swear. There are a lot of controversy, Dan, I'm with you. There are a lot of movies that have quote, quote, sexual situations that didn't have any nudity, which is what I was looking for. So what you want is you want to stack them. You want nudity and sexual. What you really want, especially on that HBO listing is strong sexual. Yes, that's what you would want. Yeah, that's the caviar.

That's the caviar of teenage boys looking for some looking for nudity in their homes. Yeah. I feel like such an old man saying this, but really, wow, what a lost experience. Okay. The lady in my day, I had to stay up till 2 a.m. and make sure my parents weren't to hear me to see pornography. Now it's on your phones. I had to suffer through some art house bullshit that was boring. Back in the day, we used to go to the Vodaville and sit through 64 acts before we got to the strong sexual congei, Olio. I still need to find our

magazines in the woods. Or a rail yard. Or a rail yard. Let's move on to one that, perhaps is better love. So vote trip is similar to the Jokal Cruz is there a lot of homophobia and some of that. There's a there's very little we like to think implied or explicit homophobia or or ill conceived concepts. It's almost a place. The one overlap is that the Jokal Cruz

is essentially like one long three's company episode. It is a trip on a boat. And to that extent it is very much overlap is that the Jokou Cruz is essentially like one long threes company episode. It is a trip on a boat. And to that extent, it is very much like boat trip. Right. Exactly. And what's the overall on the roster standings?

What about Roger Moore? Is he going to show up at Jokou Cruz? Not yet. I'd love to get him. I'd love that. He's a tough one. Has he passed? He has passed. He has passed. He has passed? He has passed. He has passed.

He is a lot of remodeling. Yeah, that's why he's so hard to get. I mean, in some ways, to make it easier for him to get, he doesn't need to want to be there. He's not going in there. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have anything else booked. He finally turned it up.

And I'll tell you what to find him. Monaco Cemetery. Okay. That's what he's worried. A long-side-year purchase, Josephineine Baker goes with them all and Roger Moore says. Wow. What a great neighborhood. Okay.

The lady, some would say, isn't Josephine Baker in the pantheon? No, no, no, no. They have, she has been celebrated in the pantheon in Paris, but her body is still down. Thank God you corrected that because I was fuming. The lady Eve, 1941, of course, written and directed by the great Preston Sturges and starring Barbara Stanwick and Henry Fonda. It's about a con artist who meets her next mark on an ocean liner and begins to fall for him. I did not know it was loosely based on a 19 page short story by Martin Hoff called Too Bad bad hats. Very easily based.

Very easily going to be the title. That is the best, you can't make up a name like Monkton Hough with an E at the end. Yeah. Monkton Hough. Please call me Monkey. Monkton Hough is my father. The plot was recycled in 1956 for the film The Birds of the Monkey.

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I mean, if you want any questions about either of David Niven's memoirs, I've read both of those. Oh, they're the best. The first one, the Moon's a Balloon is a great book. It's really good. The second one is so, so, but I highly recommend David Niven's first memoir. It's really good. The Moon's a ball. I'm gonna hear somebody talking a whole lot of dirty laundry about Errol Flynn. Yes, yeah. Oh, I do want that. The one piece of trivia that I, I, I, I singled that was it was hibernation season during the shoot. So, Emma, the King snake was always sleeping. So that's the thing. So, you know, feminism? Yeah, that's what in refund call his penis. And but the King's snake never work with snakes or children. That's what I say.

Or Henry fondus penis or Henry fondus penis. Henry fondus penis was originally cast in Gideon's trumpet, but it wasn't working out. So Henry fondus. I'll take the rolls. That's what they got the title. Like that was his second nickname. That was the penis's name for itself. Yeah, it was Gideon's trumpet. Now, Elliott, I know you have a strong, pressed and sturgis opinions. This is one of my, one or two, fave. It's really right, a whole book about him.

This is like, definitely top three, probably top two for me. What do you think? I have to say, this is just my opinion. The lady I like it, but it's never been one of my favorites. I take, you know, one of his movies is my third favorite movie of all time, The Miracle Morgan's Creek. And I love that one. I love the Palm Beach story. I love, um, did he, did he, did he direct, uh, torque? Yeah, yeah. He went on, he went just like Roger Moore, they dug him up and they

brought him in and he was in the room when they were when they were making torque. But so it was a kind of a, it was a kind of a film shoot at Bernie's situation. Funny enough, you mentioned torque because actually the Joko Cruz is basically torque at C. That's how we've been marketing it. There's a lot more motorcycles than you would expect for a cruise ship. Yeah, usually. Yeah, I have motor cycles. Yeah. Yeah. But the league is very good. For some reason, it just never quite makes me laugh as much as some of the other ones. Yeah, I mean, it's, I would agree with that. It's not necessarily like one of the funniest, but like it is very funny

and combined with, I think, one of the, being one of the best constructed, like, best, I don't know, it's a sweet, long story. It's a family-charmic. Yeah. It is very charming. And there's a, I mean, everyone in it is, it's a great movie to spend time with, you know? Any movie where you get Eugene Paladin in it, I'll watch it, you know?

And he's in it, William Demarist. You got a lot of people from the, from the Surges Stable. We're really good at it. And of course, surges stable plus Stanwick, how can you go wrong? Now I say this without any insult intent in it. I'm assuming Stewart has not seen the lady Eve. I don't want that kind of shit.

Paul, Paul, Paul, I'm sorry, I'm Paul. Jonathan, have you seen it? I have not seen it. This is one of those black and white type films, right? No thanks. There's a films, right? No thanks. It's a full-air color. No thanks. No thanks.

No thanks. No thanks. No thanks. What color is everything, even? I can't even tell. Yeah. There's no possible way of imagining. It's very hard.

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you know, single monsters who are looking for husbands or any of that. Do they operate the hotel Transylvania? Is that so? I have seen the first hotel Transylvania because our pal. And you've seen Transylvania 6, 5000 of course. Of course. Of course. Oh, of course. Our pal Griffin Newman over at at blank check. What about Saturday the 14th? Let's say on one top. Richard Benjamin joint. Uh, I'm not going down this road because I'm in the middle of the sentence. Our friend at the blank check podcast, Griffin Newman, who is a, you know, big animation fan speaks highly of the hotel trends when you see series because

in CGI, it does a lot more like cartoon goofiness because it's guinea-tart Kofsky is the director. Yeah, from Dexter's lab and Sam Raichak. Yeah. So yes, I've seen it and the original premise is Adam Sandler Dracula. The same man owns the so-tell. Adam Sandler Dracula. The Sandman owns the hotel. He has a daughter who Andy Sandberg, a normal human romantic.

The mother's Sandman. Yeah. I mean, and it's ironic because he becomes Adam Sandler's son-in-law when he already played Adam Sandler's son. And that's my boy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Typecasting.

Typecasting. Two Jewish guys, they have to be father-son. They're the only two Jewish guys. They have to be father They're the only two Jewish guys in Hollywood so they have to work together a lot The only two yeah, Ellie you sound like you've maybe seen this because of having children Is this true or not exactly why I've seen it actually I haven't seen the third one I've seen the first and the second and my kids have shown no interest in the third one Which is surprising because they like the first one in the second one a lot. Very strange. Perhaps it's cruise ships. Maybe they don't like cruise ships. And I tell them cruise ships are great.

You should go on a cruise. It'll be really fun. Maybe early next year, a cruise ship full of comedians full of music. It'll be great. It'll be wonderful. And they say, eh, no thanks, but they're kids. They don't know what they got. They got it. They got it. They got it. Funny. Yeah. They go, you know, thanks, Doc. Walk away chewing on a carrot. They do. They do walk around chewing on carrots a lot. That's very fair. And just like ladies and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

and arguing with the duck over who should be shot today. Elliot, are your kids mad because they're like, on a cruise, like, where, what, where the vampires gonna go? Like, the sun, like where, what, where the vampires going to go, like the sun, the sun, is that their objection? Um, we've never gotten to the, to the actual objections, but it's something that I'm confused about. I've never seen it. I assume they have some kind of super sunblock that protects them or something. Does the sun figure into this, this particular drag, Dracula incarnation in the world of somebody

called Griffin Newman. And I have to find out. Yeah, this is our phone, a friend. Griffin Newman. Hey, is the Dracula and hotel tries to be a hero? Two hours later. Yeah, or is he a day walker like late? That could.

Yeah, this episode suddenly becomes three and a half hours long. I think I think I have seen maybe Dracula with an umbrella in pictures. So maybe it's some sort of parasol situation. I mean, the first hotel Transylvania movie, I think the sun, I think it all takes place during the night anyway. So I think the sun does affect him, but I don't know. Certainly the sun and law affects him first with frustration and then eventually with familial acceptance and love.

That must have been real hard filming that animated movie when it was all night shoots. Mm-hmm. Very tough. The animators are all so different. Oh, yeah. Well, the thing is, the deadlines given to animation companies are so tight that they probably were working all night on it, so, yeah, probably was very tough, yeah. You're sweet, stupid man.

How is Adam Sandler's Dracula? What's his Dracula- He just sounds like unlikely to ask. No, he just sounds like an old Jewish man. How is Adam Sandler's Dracula? What's his Dracula like? He just sounds like unlikely to ask. No, he just sounds like an old Jewish man. I mean, he's doing kind of Dracula as Jewish grandmas. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. It's Dracula by way of Uncle Leo from Seinfeld, you know. So with more of the old country in it. Do you think Adam Sandler signed up to do that movie because they're like, it's called a hotel to Pennsylvania. anis, like perfect, all my movies are an excuse to go invocation with my friends, they're like, uh, nobody tells me. Like all the other trips to Translania with Kevin James, David Spade and Chris Rock and they're like, um, well, they took a eight person trip to a recording studio in Maui.

I mean, that makes sense. Yeah, how many masters are in the joke of Bruce? More than you would think there is a good deal of cosplay. It's got one of the ways, one of the catch phrases I used to try and sell it is it's a comedy music festival stuffed together with Comic Con dropped onto a cruise ship. So there is, you know, it's a bunch of happy nerds on a boat having fun. And so as such, there is a lot of cosplay people. I'm trying to think if there are any particular monsters.

We have had a couple of years running. We've had a zombie lurch, like from the upstairs buffet, down to like a dance floor, several decks down. So it's interesting to see this. Some zombies taking the elevator versus some lurching down the stairs. Yeah, it is fun. It is fun to watch this zombies lurch around. I will say this. I probably shouldn't mention cruises in COVID in the same sentence, but I'm going to because we had a cruise right on the on the eve of COVID. And this is back when everybody thought that it was just all about washing your hands. And that was all you had to worry about. And so everybody was

obsessively washing their hands on this cruise. And all the staff had was stationed basically at every doorway with a little pump bottle of hand sanitizer. And my favorite, my favorite moment from that was watching the zombie lurch happen. And as they merged, oh, into the dining room, they would all stop. Their zombies would all stop in front of the hand pump and get their hands in. And they're, they're hands in and keep going. Cause they're very compliant, very compliant. Yeah. Don't want infection. It's like in a dawn of the dead. They seem to do what they did while they were alive. It brings up some comfort. Hey, speaking of Adam Sandler and Boats, our next film is also an Adam Sandler movie. His first is film debut.

It's going overboard from 1989, also featuring Billy Bob with Orton and King of Boats, Billy Zane. Yeah. Yeah. You're seeing the membrane. Yeah. Yeah. According to IMGB, a struggling young comedian takes a menial job on a cruise ship hoping for his big chance to make it in the world of cruise ship comedy, the director and co-writer Valerie Breiman.

Didn't do much, but her next film was Bikini Squad. Sounds good. And I just went to highlight that apparently originally this was released regionally as the unsinkable Shecky Moscoots. That was in 89. It remained in second-run theaters until 90 when it made its TV debut in June on Up All Night channel. And it was around a sheet here under the title babes a hoi.

And then it was released on video on the US in 95 is going overboard right after Billy Madison was released. So cashing in those checks. Have any of you seen going over? I have not seen the movie. I went and perused the IMDb entry and watched the trailer. And it is absolutely as atrocious as you would imagine. This movie would be, I read, you know, and the famously accurate IMDb trivia section. Yeah.

That apparently this movie was three months from initial conception to completion. And they said it was, it was filmed in something like six days and then two days of reshoots. And you just do that. Yeah, we could just do that. And every day, our own bikini adventure, whatever it's called. I mean, to be honest, we could do that. I don't know that we should, but that is, you say like it's a crazy dream,

but we definitely certainly could do that if we needed to. We could make a, we could make a shitty movie in a very short amount of time. Yes, it is possible. We could walk down the middle of the street and challenge a Mac truck to a joust. Yeah, it's not a great idea, but I'm looking at this cast list now and also more, more stars that this movie also features Peter Berg who would go on to make Friday night lights and and and things like that. That's ship. That'll ship. Yeah. And also, uh, uh, Stewart, you know, I assume a small role,

Adam Rifkin, creator of the invisible maniac. No, that's great. And is he going by Adam Rifkin or is he going, but what's his, it's like, man, he has like, yeah, he is a nom de gour for a reason. Oh, a Rifkin? Yeah, Rifkin. Yeah. I'm like, I'm just as Adam Rifkin, so I don't know. I knew it wasn't right, but I was like, Dex McCool. Which is not a million miles off.

Yeah, going overboard. I haven't seen it. So it's Joe Co. Cruz also and Chandler's first. Joe Co. Cruz, let's just say everybody wants to break into cruise ship comedy. That's like the pinnacle of being a comedian, a successful comedian is doing it on a cruise ship. They've said many times you become a headliner, then you go on Carson, then you get your one hour special, then you get to be on a cruise. Yeah. I will say that the Jokou cruise lasts longer than principal photography for the movie going overboard.

So moving on to go ship 2002. Great opening now. Great opening where a bunch of people get sliced. That was like peak era where horror movies like to slice people in half and then you slowly watch them fall apart. Yep, yep. Like nobody, nothing was more popular. They broke the mold after that one.

Yeah, they picked it up and cut it in half. It's about some people who find a ghost ship. It's directed by Steve Beck, who previously did a 13 ghosts and was a visual effects art director for ILM, where you did work on the hunt for red October Indiana Jones Alaska saving the abyss. And he was also known from songs, right? Back. Yes. Scientology. No, quit reminding me. It's got Gabriel Byrne and Juliana Margulies.

Here's a fascinating bit of trivia from the web. Warner Brothers, an association with Hollywood.com, sponsored the sweepstakes to promote the film. Applicants can enter for the chance to win the grand prize, dubbed the Ghost Ship Prize package of promotional merchandise containing one ghost ship baseball hat, one spinning skull mug, one ghost ship shower CD player, and the ghost ship soundtrack. The runners up would receive just the hat and mug. go ship soundtrack. The runners up would receive just the hat and money. So Gabriel burn just got a hat. Yeah. Poor guy. Now here's my question. Poor guy. He's the star of cool world. That's true. I was going to I was going to ask if anybody here had seen go ship, but

maybe more more accurately, the question is, is anybody here remember anything about Go Ship beyond that opening five minutes? It's not really no. Does anyone, and does that, I'm question whether actually the remaining 85 minutes of that movie actually exist. Yeah, I mean, yes, I definitely watched all of it and I can only remember that very memorable opening.

It feels like once you've launched that, once you've cut everybody in half, it feels like that's the punchline to the joke that is the movie. And then I don't know what else is there to talk about. Then they start seeing the ghosts and then they say, I wonder why they're ghosts. And then one of the ghosts is like, we were all cut in half. And that's pretty much it. I think we can all agree. The opening should have been, they get sliced in half and right before they slip apart, one of the people is like,

pretty sticky situation, huh? You're probably wondering how I got here. You're the back in town. That's immediately. I will say this, guys, I have seen, I'd remember more of the 1943 movie The Ghost Ship, which was a Val Luton produced movie, which also is not really much of a horror movie. And it's just a more about like a crew going mad on a ship and there's not really ghosts on it, but there's this one character who can't talk. He's

mute. And they have, he has these voiceovers that are dubbed over and was like, they say everything they wish, but I, I cannot speak for I am mute. I cannot communicate. And it's just over this overwrought right now. It's not so bad about the curse that he suffers under. So and during those generations, is he like throwing himself on all the nearby scenery and no, he's just kind of looking at things and oh, and then he gets cut half. Did I mention that? No, I think someone just gets crushed by. Did I mention it? No. I think someone just gets crushed by a giant chain in it. I don't think anyone, I don't remember if anyone gets cut in half or not. So we got one last famous cruise ship. Oh, very,

very quickly before you do that. Oh, there, nobody gets bisected by a wire or any other means on Jokal cruise. I made a mental note before even starting this podcast that I was going to point that out. I'm glad you found it. If anyone does get cut in half, it takes them so long to realize that it stays or weeks late. They're not even on the ship. Yeah, it's the lowest state of life. It's part of week later.

Yeah. Twenty a time to use staples, superglue, etc. There was that there was that one time when you had the the samurai sword expert and he accidentally cut someone's head off, but they didn't even realize until they later when they turned their head and it fell right off their body. And at that point they're like, they've always wanted to see a cut like that for it to happen from their own head. It's how I run and I keep the best way to die was for their head to turn around in mid-air

and see the cut as it fell to the ground and then consciousness lifted. Yeah. There's one last movie that I'm going to give us maybe a last thought discussion question to tie it up. But we got here. I don't know. It's been a pretty focused conversation up so long. Alvin and the chipmunks, Colin Chipprecht, 2011. That's great. You know, what you go to the series for great, sequel subtitles, you got the squeak wool and you get chip wrecked. Yeah, actually, yeah, I'm a little bit of a hater, but I gotta, you know, get credit for it. Yeah, yeah.

I'm GB summarized it, summarizes it, thusly playing around while aboard a cruise ship, the chipmunks and chipets accidentally go overboard and end up marooned in a tropical paradise. And this is directed by Mike Mitchell, but not that Mike Mitchell. No, Mike Mitchell from the doble. Not that guy. This is the director of doospegolo male jiggle and the Lego movie part two. Mike Mitchell featured actor on Peacock's killing it.

Not that guy. No, this is the director of up. Since you said the doospeglo male jiggle, I want to bounce out by saying that he also directed sky high, which is pretty good. I like sky high. I've actually never seen it. I've heard good things about it. Ginny Slates film debut is chipperect by the way. That's the other piece of trivia I

have down here. That was back when she just played kind of like Weirdos who would show up and think. Yeah. Yeah. As opposed to. And as opposed to now she plays Weirdos who are like have a larger roles in the movies. And continued David Cross's commitment to the Alvin and the Chipmunks franchise. Yeah.

Yeah. He's quite magical. Yeah. He's quoted as saying thisvin and the Chipmunks franchise. Yeah. Yeah. He's quite a major commitment. Yeah, he's quoted as saying this was like the worst experience in his career. And like, on the one hand, that may be true. And like, I sympathize that even within like a great career, you know, you can have painful things and people shouldn't like scoff at that. On the other hand, I'm like, yeah, but you're getting paid Alvin and in the shipmunks money. Like what do you want? Like, you know, I'm sure he gave the money back after. Yeah, he said, I didn't enjoy this. And therefore I

didn't give the performance the fans deserve. So I should have no deserve to pay for it. Yeah, right. That's exactly right. I have not seen any of these Alvin and the shipmunks movies. Have any of you seen any? I haven't seen it. I assume it's, I mean, it basically is triangle of sadness, but with chipmunks. Yeah, I can't see it. And I want to see it. Yeah. I have not seen them. I have to, but the huge thing though, when a person gets shipwrecked on a deserted island,

it's... What happens when they get shipwrecked on a deserted island? Yeah, shipwrecked. When they get shipwrecked, it's even worse. But when when when when at when chipmunks get get get chip wrecked on an island, it doesn't bother me quite as much because they're already wild animals that have been the same money of food and whatever. Right, right, right.

Well, they're like domesticated chipmunks. They're not. They're not. They're close. They do form a new societal structure based on skill set and it gets pretty brutal. You have to imagine that half the movie is then trying to kill Theodore to appease their new God. And they've stolen Simon's glasses to light fire with and things like that. They're arguing over who gets to talk who's holding the con.

Yeah. And the con is huge. None of them can hold it. They're chipmunks. They can't hoist the pig head onto a steak because to know they live in it. It's a house. Yeah, they live in a pig head house. So I just want to ask before we leave the second. How sounds like an animal house rip off from like the early to mid 80s. Yeah, that's true.

Like the silent productions. Yeah. Oh, it's also a real good like cookie monster metal album title. Yeah. Yeah. Frog rock a frog rock, but yeah. I've already got that one. I wanted to ask, so thinking about all these movies together, is there something that makes something a cruise ship? Is there a cruise ship genre or is it merely a location?

Are there elements that you think reoccur and these things. Well, usually, I mean, the canon states that in order for it to fall within the genre, there has to be... Your friendships have canons? Yes. The good ones do. Yeah, only the ones that don't want to be attacked by pirates, yeah. In order for it to be truly a proper cruise ship piece of entertainment, there has to be love.

It has to be exciting and new. Uh, yeah. And do they have to, do they have to be expecting us? Well, yeah, you have to be expected. Uh, and, and it's always making another run. Like, that's a thing. Like, every week they just turn over, no matter what fabulous stories have happened, no matter how many times Charo is a board. Right next we run another run. I'm a guy. I want to go see. We went on a cruise. Years ago, I went on a princess cruise to Alaska. And there was a channel that just constantly played love boat episodes. Because I guess that's like a connection there. They have the I want to see a love episode now where Charo is a board just like like

it. There's an infestation like she's in the vet. She's in the ducks and the vents. They can't get her out. She's the tribbles. The ship has charles. The passengers cannot know that we have charo on board. They cannot know. They're just clean up her scat and things like that. You know, she's getting into the pantry and chewing holes in bags of flour. Stuff like that. Her saliva just melts through the metal hull. Oh, yeah, follow it straight down, deck after deck after deck. Straight down, deck, deck, deck. No run, what? Kuchikuchi.

I would argue, I would argue, Dan, that the, that cruise ships are kind of a genre, but maybe more a family of related genres. It feels like there are comedy cruise ship movies, there are disaster cruise ship or, you know, like a danger cruise ship movies, and there's romance cruise ship movies. And I feel like those are the three, in my mind, the three types of cruise ship movies. Either a cruise ship is a place where dangerous things will happen because you are far from land and far from hell, or it is a place that exciting and funny or sexy things will happen similarly because you're in the water away from land. The rules don't apply the same way. People are in close quarters. It's kind

of similar to spaceship movies in a way. I also think that trying to answer the question a little more seriously too. Like, I class elements are often in cruise ship films. I mean, certainly in the most famous cruise ship ever made this movie that you didn't mention at all. Titanic, which is- The Abyss. Yeah. The Abyss.

The Underwater Cruise Ship. It's not a cruise ship. It's a working trip. That's the working trip. Titanic, triangle sadness. I mean, like, I think it's interesting because in this modern world, like cruise ships aren't the vastly unattainable vacation they once were. But I think certainly, if you're talking about a high-end cruise or the older films,

a lot of these issues come up. There's certainly a luxury aspect to a lot of the classics. And especially with the romance, taged ones, like a fairer remember lady. Yeah, such. There's a certain amount of time spent kind of just letting the audience live the dream of being on a, on a fabulous, like, um, gentlemen for her blondes has a bunch of cruise stuff, ship stuff on it too, right? Because there's that great moment when, uh, I think it's on a cruise ship when they sit next to the, the kid and he makes some comment and she goes, how old are you? And he goes, old enough to appreciate a beautiful woman. It's just a funny line coming out of like an eight-year-old

or something like that. Um, well, before we let you do some final plugs, I want to make a couple of plugs, which is that for whatever reason, we're also doing more boat content. In October, one of our movies is gonna be Jason Takes Man Hatton, which is mostly actually a cruise ship movie. Mostly Jason takes a boat on its way to Manhattan, yeah. Yeah, and one of our LA live shows movie. Mostly Jason takes a boat on its way to Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, one

of our LA live shows is going to be about speed to the Miss Begotten Speed sequel. So there's links on our show page for that. Can't be them Miss Begotten. Can you and Reeves came back for it, right? No. No. Oh, yeah. Something we no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, before we go, would you like to do a more full plug for a more formal plug? Yeah, yeah. I'll start Jonathan jump in at whatever point you feel I'm doing it wrong. So Joko Cruz is a little stop. Stop, stop, yeah. Just kidding, go ahead, go ahead.

I don't want to now. No, no, go ahead. It's a week long music and comedy and creativity themed crews. It's a lot of happy nerds on a boat. There's music performances. Happy nerds. Happy nerds. Yes, not the sad angry in cell time.

OK. Yeah. There's music. There's comedy. There's podcasters. There's authors. There's a whole bunch of self-run events, everything from crafting to dance lessons to meetups

in bars to compare tattoos. See, there's tattoo nerds. There's lots of different types of nerds in them, Dan. In any case, it's happening. The next one happens March 9th through 16th, 2024. It's a great time. And I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the people in charge of it and I have to go no matter what. It is. It is a great time. And you you you clout you mentioned this a little bit. One of my favorite aspects of it is the it's a thing we call the shadow crews, where we have

enough programming, we have more programming than there are hours in the week, just that's official programming. And then we give spaces over to the community who build their own stuff. And it's crazy to watch what they put together. And just very exciting. I've seen like handbell choirs and ad hoc acapelic groups and knitting circles and ad hoc Hamilton, the musicals sing alongs and it's just, you just walk down the walk down the hallways of the ship and over here, all these things going

on in all these rooms. It's just how many hours, Paul, was it? I think we did a calculation one year. How many hours of entertainment were there? There were, I don't remember which year this was. It was either this past year or the year before. We had peaked at something like 580 something hours of actual programming. If you don't count things like, you know, lunch and dinner, but of actual events of official events and shadow cruise events on board, I think it was, I think it was that high. It's a lot of stuff going on all over the ship pretty much at all times. And also very, very few, very few vampires though. No, not zero, not zero, not zero, not zero. I mean, it's the Caribbean. You're going to run into a couple of vampires. But they're going to be those fun vampires. They're not the dower Eastern European

vampires. These are vampires. They're not afraid to kick back. Let lose, you know, they don't have a raise. Composts. Jewish, Jewish, Jewish grandpa vampires. These are Jewish grandpa vampires. I mean, which literally is, I guess, grandpa, Alex Lewis from the months. We've reinvented the wheel. Well, I'd like to thank you guys for being here. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Jonathan. Our pals from songs. And in boats.

And many more songs to come. Yeah. There's many more boats to come, I hope. And many more songs to come. Yeah. There's many more boats to come, I hope. And many more boats, yes indeed. And for the flop. One amazing scoop that would have been it, Jonathan Viva, like I'm retiring from songs. I'm an actually an owl. Thanks for our producer Alex Smith.

You can find him under the name Howell Dottie online. Thanks for our network, maximum fun. Check out their other great shows. But for the flop house, I have been Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kaelin and we've been joined by Jonathan Colton. Always for Dan. They're so close. They finish each other's name sentences. We're not, we're not part of the well-oiled machine that is the flop house. name sentences. We're not part of the well-oiled machine that is the flop house. The error free extravaganza.

I was expecting a bird, but instead he gave us a really nice compliment. In any event, I'm still Paul Saborin. And I'm still South Dakota. Oh, I wrote it again. Well-oiled, well-ist-oiled machine. Stuck the landing. Signing off. We'll can. Bye.