The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #104 - Atlas Shrugged

Episode Date: June 17, 2012

0:00 - 0:29- Introduction and theme.0:30 - 2:12 - We re-introduce guest host Zhubin Parang2:14 - 36:55 - Hey look everyone! It's a dopey thing that people have based their whole philosophy on.36:56 - 40:34 - Final judgments40:35 - 56:46 - Flop House Movie Mailbag50:18 - 1:01:13 - The sad bastards recommend1:01:14 - 1:02:49 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes

In this episode we get a little iron Randy with Atlas Shrugged. Hey everyone welcome to the flop house I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Elliot Kaelin. And I'm Jubin Parang. Hold on. What did you do with Stuart? What did you do with Stuart? Here's a thing. Stuart and I are switching places for a while in life.

What? I'm going to do my thing. I'm going to do my thing. I'm going to do his thing. So more like a wife swap switch and not like a P in the same magic fountain switch. I was a more like a prince and a popper thing. I mean, I didn't see Stuart at work today. So I mean, I guess he's slacking off already in this like switching the lives. You may not have a job when you come back.

Oh, because yeah, I'm doing most of his work and my own work at the same time. Yeah. So I think Stuart maybe want to be running some sort of grift on you. Or a tom or a thing. He's doing it to grift or a gun. No, no, he's doing it to pay for his sick grandmother. Oh, I heard a heart-servant shirt.

He was, and I think that. You forced weak land. I mean, it made a lot of sense when he said it. It was really Well still we're happy to hear you here here you here at the podcast have you here too? Yeah, here you It's important that we hear you because it's an audio podcast. No, it's a pleasure to hear here if we could only see you It would be a problem for the listeners. Oh, yeah, although you are doing some hilarious stuff. Yeah No, that's a lie So just sitting there talking to a microphone.

We have to establish trust between us and the listeners. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Listener. Listeners. All of you at once fall backwards and we will catch you. Yeah. Oh, sorry. We were distracted from on. We never intended to do it though. Let's just be honest. Yeah, we're liars. We're assholes Well, it was our own rational self-interest which leads us oh Tonight's not really explain why we didn't really so what was our movie tonight? Dan it was a movie called Atlas shrugged part one You know, it was a movie about you know, I was like I was being like hold on hold on More like Atlas shrugged fart one It was a movie about, you know, I was like, I was like, I was like, hold on, hold on. Yeah.

More like Atlas shrugged. Fart one. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, That's him it it actually was it's it was intended to be part one of two or three of three Yeah, because I looked it up on on Wikipedia a trilogy It was gonna be really yeah the exact opposite of a trilogy because this was maybe the least thrilling movie we watched Yeah, although I think this maybe was not quite as boring as white out. I don't know I know you were much more bored as white out. I don't know. You were much more bored by white out. I mean, they did have Kate Begansell running away from a killer.

But it was still super boring somehow. I mean, this movie was mostly about metallurgy and trains. And the train industry, yeah. I mean, the people saying people's names over and over again. I remember the last time I stepped in for Stuart with you guys. We watched that Nicholas Cage movie trapped or taken hostage, hostage,

hostage, trespass. Trespass. Trespass, which was great. And it was a pretty good movie. I had a lot of fun watching it. And I sort of assumed this would be the same. Yeah, you assumed, no, you should not have a good time watching it. That was the rare, that was the rare flop has movie

where we enjoyed watching it, even though it was stupid. I, wow, I did not know that was know that was part of the exception last time. Mostly it's a slog. Mostly a slog house. We should be the slog house. Well, you should call it that. Thank you. Well, we were going to call the slog house.

We were afraid it was too close to the slaw house. Our podcast about slaws, cold slaw. I think it's just a matter of announcing that hard. I'm just making sure you really kind of slots. Cabbage slot is that there's the coal variety of slaw and you guys are 100th episode of that of the slaw. I know we have really been about coal. Yeah, we keep thinking we're gonna get on to other

slaws, but we keep having more things to say and I guess we just never really. Slot, come a coal. So Elliott. Yes. I really need you to do your usual job and something to do. I need you to Dan in my life. Thanks for being my friend. I appreciate it. You've been you're all right too, I guess. Hey, I'm just glad to be part of this this whole thing, you know. And thanks to all our fans who showed up last week at our live show. up last week at our live show. Well, you were a thing. You were not. I, the world, world part the same, same, same group here.

When you, when you're part of the flop of her, certainly, but when you switch to Stewart, you didn't get Stewart's past. Big thanks to the fans. I'm just, okay, you guys don't want to thank them, but I, we always, we thank them all the time. But I'm doing. I mean, I guess I think, I think the, I think the, Shuban to supplant Stuart in that everyone wants to be sucking up to the fans You've been Al Magical everyone wants to be Stuart. You seem like a better guy

I said a blessed line watching the photos from that live show you guys I mean we're just talking about pretty good how on Facebook There was a lot of chatter about how handsome Stuart is yeah,, it didn't make us feel good. No, did not. The consensus seems to be that Stewart is handsome, and I am short, and Dan is some sort of default human. Yeah, I'm just average. I'm just 100%, I'm like the baseline of what man...

If there was a mold, if there was like a blank mannequin, and God molds it to be an individual, Dan somehow escaped the factory. It was just that blank mannequin. I mean, I thought that with at least with America's obesity epidemic that I would have shot up in the rankings, but apparently I'm still at, you know, base zero. No, you still move. Yeah, you move along with the average.

Yeah, it's weird. It's a moving curve. Yeah, but I'm speaking of moving curves. Uh, real ways, real trains. Real trains, reared in metal. So is that what you were saying, Dan, is you're gonna need me to summarize this plot? Yeah, because I honestly, for a movie that, in the broadest outlines is very simple,

I could not follow the intricacies of the business entry. Well, there was a lot of talk about the strength of different medals and legislation and companies, but it's all pretty simple at the base. The year is 2016. Okay. And due to something, oil is not available.

As a result, planes don't go and neither does cars. All right. And so trains are the new huge mode of transportation. Now, how are these trains powered? That's set on the oil. But that's the Colorado oil, no less. There's a lot of oil and Colorado in this world. Apparently, in the world of Atlas shrugged,

Colorado might as well be called Colorado oil. Colorado oil, Colorado oil does. Sounds like Colorado is like, they should just call it juiced up on, just call it oil. This is just Colorado oil. Just call it oil city. Yeah.

There's a lot of, and oil at one point, they mentioned gas at $37 a gallon or something like that. Very expensive. Now, this is to explain why trains are the, rail of the mode transportation of the future. Since this is a book that was written in the 50s, I believe. I think when trains were still pretty cutting edge,

as opposed to now, when trains are kind of like the horse and buggy of transportation, although I guess the horse and buggy of transportation would be the horse and buggy. Trains are the trains of transportation. Yeah, that's a good metaphor. So we're introduced to... Why couldn't they have updated this for modern, you know, like, user jets that need like super, super strong steel or even like make it a monorail, just make it like slightly future

racing. or even like make it a monorail, just make it like slightly future-ish. That is even at one point, because the whole point of this, the engine on which this plot turns is that this innovative entrepreneur creates a new type of metal for real life. This guy, Hank Reardon. Hank Reardon has a new type of metal that is stronger and lighter and cheaper than steel,

but for some reason, the government and other companies are worried it's going to put other companies out of business so they're trying to stop him from using it. And there's a grand conspiracy for scientists to say that this medal is unsafe. Because these scientists are funded by the government, which at one point are hero who we haven't mentioned her name yet, Dagnitaggert finds out when she's in what looks to be a science church. It looks to be like a huge... It's the Institute of Science,

or Science Institute of Science, and it's like a science-specific church- Like courtroom for science. And they're like, it's the best metal we've ever seen, but we have to say it's bad, or they're pull off funding, and then our science...

And you know what will happen to our precious science? And so, Dagnetaggart is one of the two co-heads of Taggart Trains, and her brother is the other co-head. He is a Ninkampoop who believes in cooperation and fairness in helping out people who are poor. He sounds like a real loser. And he is. He's running their train company into the ground,

which is hard to do when the trains are on rails that are on the ground. You have to dig a hole, run the rail into the hole, and then I guess jump out of the train as it jumps into the hole. Yeah, and then those rails have to be vertical at that point, and it's hard to not derail. You have to have artificial gravity to keep the train attached to the down rails. Anyway, he's a genius. He's just pursuing destructive ends with it. Imagineous. The thing of it is, though, despite his nincompupery, he has a lot of friends in Washington, which

is a phrase the movie uses all the time to. Friends in Washington, they say, over and over. Do you explain any lobbying influence? It's just friends in Washington, which up to now I'd never heard outside of a negative political ad. Yeah. And it's just like, well, that's because this is basically a negative political ad stretched to feature length, but we'll get to that. Let's finish with the exciting story of Dagny Taggart. The very believable name of Dagny Taggart.

She is a genius who is tired of having to suppress her own strengths and individual will for what other people consider the greater good. She wants to bring this train company back. So she's going to make a deal with Reardon to relay hundreds of miles of train track and start up a new train line. These other train lines, the El Norte and the Phoenix El Dorado or something like that. The Phoenix Durango.

Phoenix Durango, that's right. For some reason they are failing. So she's gonna start, she wants to bring the train lines back, but the government is coordinating with businesses to crush her business in particular in order to keep things cooperative so that people don't succeed. It's all very, like, it's like trying to hold on to smoke. Like, I'm trying to remember what happened in this movie and it's disappeared.

You know, I feel like this is like a Harrison Bergeron sort of society where like no one can be better than the others. Yeah. It's like, they're trying it and the government institutes a law that makes it illegal for anyone to own more than one business. And they have a law called the Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog Act that makes it so that trains have to cooperate with each other, I guess. But Dagnetaggert decides, I'm going to leave Taggart trains. I'm gonna start my own company. I'm gonna, Danny Taggart, by the way, anyone named Dagny Taggart should be an adorable female cop. Like, you know, like just like a rookie,

but she's got a lot of sass. Yeah, Dagny Taggart. It can be two different types of shows. There's the County version, Dagny Taggart Wednesdays at eight, but there's also Dagny Taggart. Can it work? He survived life. And then at 9, there's

I guess a totally different show. Scrums reruns probably now. She calls this. It's a network. Run an hour of reruns of someone on the network show. NBC is desperate right now. Just scrubs. There's a good one-scene online about for me. See the great thing about the different Dagnetaggot shows too is that she's played by a different person in both shows. But the rest of the cast is exactly the same. So

Dagnetaggot's going to call her new train line, the John Galt's line. Now what does that mean? Well, throughout the film. Elliot, who is John Galt? That's a good question. A question we hear 40 million times throughout the film. Everyone's asking, who is John Galt? That's a good question. A question we hear 40 million times throughout the film. Everyone's asking, who's John Galt? And sometimes it's just a response to a question that has no answer. Like, who's John Galt? Like, as a way of saying like, hey,

there's no way to answer that. But sometimes it's like a code password between people who would know that there's some thing going on. There's some shadowy, mysterious figure in a trench coat in a hat Who walks up to businessmen on the street and goes? How would you like to live in a world where individual creativity is rewarded? I can take you to a place where you can be as

Where you can work for your own good and not have to worry about working for somebody else's and there instead of them being like What are you crazy person? Like I don't even understand why you're talking that way They're all intrigued and they disappear. So all these businessmen are going missing. They don't even ask for follow-up. They're gone with him that very first meeting. And you have to assume they leave their families behind, their houses, their pets.

Like, one of the guys sets fire to his business. Yeah, this is what lets it burn. There's a guy named Ed. Like, that's not my life anymore. A guy named Ellis Wyatt, who is like the last of the independent oil drillers. And he discovers this big sea of oil in Colorado. And the government's.

Above another sea of natural gas, too. Like the oil describes it. It just looks like it's just nothing but profit all the way down. All the way down to the core of the earth, which is made out of, I guess, like. Gold, baby. Sweet Boolean. Made out of super gold.

Super gold. worth more than regular gold because you need it too. Yeah it's like gold cheese. But it tastes delicious because it's been aging and let's say in the center of the earth naturally. He is working with Taggart and Reardon. Reardon and Taggart also have something of a romance. Taggart is in a loveless marriage to a woman who does not understand how important his new medal is to him. And he supports. For God's sakes, he gives her a bracelet made out of his new, new, new medal.

I have to admit, he makes a bracelet out of the first ever pouring of new Reardon medal and gives it to her as a gift. And that really is a very, like, that should be a gift to cherish. Like, he's what he's saying to her is, this is my deepest dream is this new metal. This is the culmination of all my work. I'm sharing it with you. I'm sharing it with you.

The very first example I want it to be yours as well as mine. And she's like, everyone else in this movie is a bitch or an asshole. She's like, this is a present. A real woman, a real husband who's gotten her a woman diamonds. Oh, oh, well, it's the thought that counts, I guess. Oh, and later on, Dagnetaggot.

That is only a slight exaggeration of that scene. No, she's in with, she's there with house guests in Hank Raider's own house and they're all openly insulting him. Yeah, all agree. All agree with the city terrible gift. Just like writing his own house. Later on, she trades Dagnetaggart that bracelet for a diamond necklace.

And she's like, I was just going to give it to my maid. You're throwing in the fire. It's like, wow, with, with Angry Erden right there too. Like, this doesn't let up. And that's the one time I feel bad for Hank Reardon, because he is a dick and an asshole the whole time. And he's like a rich man. He has this huge company.

He has, he has a mansion that he lives in. And he throws these big parties, if it throws one big party, I guess. And but he's like, man, people don't like me. Man, it wants out to get me. I'm rich, man. And but there's that when he gives her that bracelet

and she doesn't appreciate it, you do feel bad for him. Anyway, so, Taggart and Reardon, Fawn love, they do it once. And then they go in a cross country trip trip to find I haven't finished with white Ellis So why else is is they they get into a business Partnership Ellis why I think right Ellis why it Ellis why it Ellis why it and the two of them go into a business Part of there's a lot of crappy names a lot of first names his last names in this thing

Ellis why it then disappears John galt takes him away or the shadowy figure takes him away. And meanwhile, Taggart and Reardon go on like a cross-country trip. They go to an abandoned motor factory and find a new kind of motor that was abandoned that uses atmospheric pressure to create static electricity. And they go to great lengths to explain how this thing works.

They take about three minutes of just talking to each other And it's like one of those conversations on the West Wing where Aaron Sorkins like I knew need to explain how this one legislative maneuver works I could show it happening. I'll just have two characters explain it to each other and they'll just alternate lines from a paragraph Yeah, wow. Yeah, so they have one of those conversations and they go on a long trip to try to find the man who invented this, and it means talking to a woman at a horse ranch, talking to a woman hanging up laundry, talking to a scientist who now runs a diner, and... Talking to some guy just in a farm,

and just sort of hanging out, like at a table eating cheese. There's something guy who was just, at one point they walked by, just some old guy who was a beard sitting on like, what looks to be a picnic bench? I don't point the walk by just some old guy who's been beard sitting on like what looks to be a picking bench. I don't remember that part. I made those and I've seen a lot of stuff bleeds together. Well, and you have to assume that John Gaul stole this guy away so he can use his magic technology

wherever all these famously rich people are going. And as the movie ends, Dagnetag, Reardon goes back to try to run his company He's had to spin off all of his subsidiaries because the government has outlawed the owning of more than one company at once and as the this Evil senator Has become the new head of this office of coordination Which is gonna run the nation's economy played by the actor who brings a Barton think out to write a wrestling picture in Barton think

Yeah, and John Polito also from Barton think and the last godfather is in this movie also as an evil government type all and All the evil people look kind of ethnic for the most part, but the And John Polito is the most ethnic of all but Digny Taggart finds finds that Wyatt Ellis has Ellis Wyatt. As this why it Ellis is a name Ellis why it is not a name that Ellis why it has set fire to his enormous Colorado oil well and disappeared and that's his last fuck you to America. I guess and the movie ends and it says and part one you know end of part one or something like that.

and part one, you know, end of part one or something like that. But what I've just told you, so that's about, but we've spent about what, six minutes, 10 minutes talking about it. And that is stretched out over an hour, almost an hour and 40 minutes of people talking about the various strengths of metals, what legislation could do to their companies, how their company's gonna be run at a business and

That stitch together with so much footage of trains like tons of trains Like I thought like this is a movie you could take out all the dialogue and this would just be a train spotting movie And I could just imagine elderly English people just watching this movie Stamping their booklet to say that they've seen the trains in the movie and then going back to their, you know, T and their scones. Yeah, well, even that almost impenetrable summing up that you gave filled with names of random folks is more exciting than the movie we just watched, which took place in a series of lobbies made up to look like offices and restaurants and just people having meetings about things. Yeah. And uh, interspersed with them going to look at, I don't know, metal being made. Yeah. There's a lot of, it's, it's almost like the movie was shot guerrilla style.

Like, okay, we're in the lobby of this building. Like, set at that table, pretend it's a restaurant, we've got five minutes of security kicks us out. All right, we found this stock footage of metal being made, like, to stick it in there. There were so many landscape shots, too. Every time they were getting a train, they were just sort of shoot to mountains,

just in tree covered mountains, just for like 30, 40 seconds. We'll have the train in the shot, even, that'll all. Yeah, not even shots of the train sometimes, just shots of scenery. Yet time here was a real, was very badly, paced out, it was very badly marked off. Like, at one point they took an hour and a half train ride

that felt like it took multiple hours. It felt like it took days. Yeah, maybe even days. The whole point of it was that they were going to go over a bridge. That was going to be a new bridge that was made out of Reardon Metal. And now because of the science conspiracy, everyone except Taggart and Reardon was sure this metal would break and kill everybody on the train. But instead it held up and they went over this bridge.

So it was like, and the national news is covering breathlessly that a new train line has opened and it's going to go over a bridge. They're reporters at the point where they get on the bridge. They're reporters when they get off the train. There's a reporter. This is a huge event. But then else going on in this world, the trains. But then later after this out this out and have train ride that feels like it takes multiple

days to cover, they then go on this country spanning road trip to find out who made that engine, which takes them at the very least from Wisconsin to DC to Wyoming, and at one point back to Wisconsin. I think they might go to Texas at one point. To Texas at one point, by car, not even by like a high speed train, by car, and that seems to take the course of one day. That seems to be- It looks like a long afternoon.

It seems to be something that does not seem to take us as long as he would think it does. And also, she says to, at one point, she says to Reardon, I need the metal, can you get me the metal to build this bridge in six months and he goes, I'll do it in three months. And then like two scenes later, the bridge is finished. Like, and nothing seems to have happened in that span of three months. It's a, it's a, yeah, time works very weirdly in this movie. It's kind of like they forgot that maybe the movie, it feels like when they were making it, they assumed the movie was real time. You know, I don't actually have a strong sense of that when I watch a movie, until seeing

this movie. I've never really thought too much about how time is demarcated in a film, but this, for the first time made me think, wow, other films must have a sense of how to pace out time because this, they aren't doing it wrong. Yeah. Well, that's so egregious. It's something made me realize that there's an actually a science, there's an art to doing this. It's amazing, because it's like, this was a $20 million movie, which is not a lot for a big movie, but $20 million is a lot of money. And you can make a really good movie for far less than $20 million. And it's $20 million movie as real professional actors in it, but everything in it feels super in like student film.

Like it feels like a student film or super cheap and low budget. And there are times when I thought I was watching Burdemic, like that's how cheap it looked to me. Like the and the Phil stock was nicer than in Burdemic, but otherwise like it just felt like the person behind, the people behind this had no idea what they were doing in making a movie, it felt like.

And maybe part of that was wanting to sticks to the book so much that they had to distort. Well, let's talk about. Let's talk about a little bit. Like the elephant in the room with this is that like, I told I mentioned earlier in the podcast that there was an elephant. there is an elephant in this room Yeah, what a little elephant Ellie had mentioned that yeah, that's true

It would be dishonest to the audience to pretend this else Well, it's not his name's jojo and I brought him over All right, we've talked about that elephant in the room. Okay, not talking about something else, which is that You know like this book is based on the Rand this movie is based on the Iron Man book that is taken seriously as a political tone, especially nowadays. Like it has resurgence. Yeah, it's had a big resurgence politically.

And it's one of those things where like I'd rather judge this, it's very easy to judge this movie on its politics because its politics are really crazy. But it's, I'd like to judge it on its merits as a film, which are almost zero. Which are terrible. But you should bring up. But it is crazy. But it is crazy. This movie exists in a crazy world where the big complaint is that these people, these

very wealthy people who own companies are being held back and punished by the government for innovation. And like the real power resides in the hands of scientists who have colluded with the government to- That part's true. So back individual achievements. What part do you have a problem with? Because that's obviously true. Yeah, that's all, So back individual achievement. What part do you have a problem with? Cause that's obviously true.

Yeah, there's all, I mean, okay, why I, I clearly misjudged the room here. I'm, I'm, I'm just going to back away. What it means, I guess the thing is like, you can tell with every frame of the movie that the purpose of this movie was not like, this is a story we love, we've got to tell it. Like, this is something that arouses a passion in me because of the drama and the characters. It's a, like you can, you've seen movies sometimes

where like a director or a screenwriter adapts a story that a book they loved and still kind of fucks it up, but you can tell that the passion is there that like they did this, it was like a dream project for them, even something like Across the Sea, which is such a shitty movie, but like, you can tell that playing Bobby DARREN from God knows what reason was like a passion.

Oh, beyond the sea. Not across the sea, I'm sure. Yeah, beyond the sea, that like playing Bobby DARREN was across the sea. And the fact that he is that movie where Bobby DARREN takes a solo flight across the Atlantic. Oh, yeah, where he was playing Charleston. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can tell Kevin Spacey really wanted to do this, but he like- Even though he was way tall. Yeah, well, I think he wanted to do it for about 30 years. But in this it feels like they're doing this because they have to get this message out. The important message that that Rand had in her book and this is the time for it. But it's such a weird message because the thing about this movie is all of the main characters. Like basically this movie is about a bunch of main characters who are totally awesome people and their main problem is other people just aren't recognizing how awesome they are.

It's hard to start with the eagles when you're being brought down by Turkey. You should probably make some sort of like t-shirt about that. Or a mug. Yeah. I can tell that a lot. A t-shirt you can drink coffee out of. Of course, who I haven't they called out of this before. It's brilliant.

It's a great innovation. There needs to be some sort of tax on your product. Well, but I'm just trying to distribute to Dan and me a lot of stuff, but you guys didn't come up with the idea. I came up with it. But it's all the dictates. Yeah, it's against our human rights for you

to employ us at your factory. It seems like I'm being punished for my very high wage, which I assume. That's one thing that I was actually very surprised by because I thought that this movie what at the very least give a really good summary of the iron ran principles and What her underline philosophy is but it did not really seem to do that very well The movie just sort of assume you're on board with what she believed at the beginning

Which is not an unfair assumption to make for this movie. If you're watching this movie, if you paid money to see it, you probably already believe it, but what that also means though is that the characters already believe this when the movie starts. They have no, they don't have a journey to like discover this for themselves. Well, it also has like,

the main character saying things like, in what is clearly by the way, ADR, like it's like over like a shot of a car driving somewhere and it's like her being like, what's with these people and they're stupid altruistic instincts nowadays? And it's like, yeah.

That is such a crazy thing for a movie to say. That's, you know, the weird thing, like in the book that statement, the like that altruistic instincts that attacking that comes after a good bit discussing why altruism is ultimately destructive and you know you don't even go into that too much but it lays out pretty regularly that book about why altruism is ultimately more destructive than helpful

but in this one they just flat out say this though they assume you know it and if you don't already, if you're not really on that side, they sound like huge dicks. Yeah, they just sound like jerks. There's other points when someone says you don't really on that side, they sound like huge dicks. Yeah, they just sound like jerks. There's other points where like, when someone says, you don't really care about anybody but yourself, do you hang? And he's like, no, why should I? And not only is that kind of a decision to say, but later on in the movie, he's the most dickish thing you can say.

I don't care about other people. But it's also later on the movie is asked, why do you work so hard for all these people when you know their parasites? And he just says, because I don't really care what they think, I care what I do. And that conversation itself is discussed a lot more in the book. And you understand why he's doing that in the book.

But in the movie, it's all jumbled together and compressed so much that it does not make any sense. What Hank Reardon believes, why he's doing what he's doing, where he has to go in order to come more closer to the Iron Red philosophy. It's basically like someone just wrote like a one-page paper on the Iron Red novel, assuming you already read it and you're just sort of like going to be on board with it. So what you're doing is you are recommending the book Atlas Shrugged as the finest work. You love it.

Thought. That it changed your life. I mean, I don't think you can really talk about art without talking about Atlas Shrugged. I don't think, I mean, it's sort of like this one, like once I book him out, like sort of everything reset. Yeah, kind of, there was no reason to read a book

that was written before it. Yeah, like it said everything that was worth saying. i think it's the first recorded instance of a zombie because William Shakespeare burst from his grave and said that's what i was trying to say yeah my play is and i never achieved it this level of beauty and then he kissed i ran and then he went to heaven i guess his work on earth was done yeah no it was it was all leading up to that moment it was all leading up to that moment you know i mean, this is actually like really my first experience with this story. I don't really know a lot. I mean, I have sort of like a broad strokes idea of objectivism, but I like, I don't

beyond that have much at all. And now you're convinced. You've been converted. Now, you believe it. Now, you believe it. A is A. Who is John Gold. But I don't know they didn't tell us. That's the other thing is the movie is setting up this mystery and they do it in such a shitty

way that you're supposed to be like, who is when are we going to find out all about what happened with John Gold, where those guys are going, but instead the end just like, no movie stopped, oh, we didn't learn. Yeah, exactly, but instead the end you're like, all right, like whatever. It works for that guy to go with John Goll. I guess those guys are what, dead now? I don't know. Well, what I was gonna say though is like,

you guys are talking about it during the movie and like, it is clear to me that this movie only, like the story only makes sense in the context of knowing that I and Rand lived through communism herself. That were families, all of her family's property was taken by the communist government. Right. They had to flee Russia to the United States.

And so that she imagines that this is a potential future for the US. Well, in four years when Obama cares turned us all into slaves. I know, right. I mean, the Russians. Yeah. One day actually forcing us all to be covered by health care's the first step. Slipy Slope, guys. One thing that actually shows this, I don't know where to go. Here's the thing, people talk about how bad slippery slopes are all the time.

You know what a slippery slope is? A water slide. It sounds awesome. It's fun to slide down. Does anyone not like a water slide? If you don't, and sledding. Exactly. Great.

Slippery slopes are fun as I'll get out. Have you ever, okay, let's set out a shrug decided for a second. Slippery slope. Would you rather for a second. Slip-free slope. Would you rather have a non-slip-free slope? So it like hurts and your body's getting rubbed. Like have you ever gone down a slide and like you weren't quite sliding right, maybe you're a little too big for it, maybe they're chasing you because you're not allowed to be in that playground because you're not a kid, you're an adult, and you can taunting some of the other

kids, but you just want to use a slide, you're just telling them, move faster, get out of my way so I can use the slide. I have to get to work and they're going to find me again. Maybe fire me if I don't get to work, but I need to ride this slide. You kids are taking forever. And the slides may be not big enough for you, so you start to fall down it,

but like your arms rub along the sides, and it really hurts. It's not slippery enough. There's a lot of friction. Oh, you're right. And they catch and like you got to start pushing yourself down even faster because the guard from the park is right behind you. Like I should tell you that I have called the police and reported you as a

possible sex offender during this. I know just because I didn't have pants on those on that slide. It's a child's child's playground. What is a child? I believe I'm young at heart. Okay, I'm younger than a 70 year old to them. I'm a little kid Fair enough So I've been bringing old man with me to the park Look, I know what you're talking about, but I think the underlying problem of this thing is that a lot of

One thing I thought was really funny about it was that when there was showing who was disappearing with John gold early The first guy who disappears John Gold is a banking CEO. And we're saying this early in the movie that like that would be the last person on earth who would be missed if he disappeared from earth. That knowledge is not necessary. Because the assumption is that the people who are holding society together, the movers and the shakers and the doers and the thinkers are disappearing. And the first guy to go is the as a banking CEO.

It's like, all right, none of those guys know how to run their businesses. You need to rebuild society, guys. We're building a spaceship to Mars. We need to get the most important people on board immediately. Number one banking CEO. Well, that's what you got to think, guys.

Who puts the derivatives together. Well, it's like the part in the hit track of the Sky to the Galaxy, the radio series, restaurant at the end of the universe for talking about the books, with the Golga Frinsian Arc B, which is this planet wanted to get rid of all the people who don't do anything. So they told them that the planet was about to be destroyed there. They were going to send out three arcs. Arc A was going to have the leaders and the visionaries, and arc C was going to have like the

inventors and the workers, and arc B was going gonna have like the inventors and the workers and RxB was gonna have the middlemen and they just send RxB off into the, you know, hopefully it'll just die off as a mix. And it's all like marketing executives and telephone sanitizers, which is something I'd never heard of until I read that book as a kid. And like, it kind of feels like John Gaul just doing that, like banking executives

and CEOs who get a lot of money but don't do very much. Why don't you just come with me to this? We'll live in a valley somewhere and you guys can pump your own water out of the ground and feel like you're doing something great. I don't know if you can feel a stable twist. Yeah, and they go to Galt. They all thought they were going to get made by Galt. They go to his garage and they just shoot him in the head.

What's actually, I would actually like the idea of up until that moment in the movie, golf that actually been building a really great society of workers and innovators. But then once a bank guy gets there within like three or four months, the whole place is collapsing or dead. Well, John, it seems like we could create a number of financial products that will enhance the value and like suddenly. A bundle of these trained derivatives. Why are shoes suddenly selling for $400 a pair?

I've increased the value through optimum spending by bundling those with, uh, with these, this dirt. This dirt is worthless. Well, someone's going to buy it. I've, it's secured eyes. So it's a, it's a, it's a revolutionary financial product. I'm really making maybe they're not, maybe, maybe it's worth it. Maybe it's gonna buy this. It's a security. So it's a revolutionary financial product. I'm really making it. Maybe they're not.

Maybe it's worth it. Maybe it's worth a lot. I'm really making Galt's Gulch into a wonderland. This is like, this is the sixth attempt of criticising John Galt has done. Every time he does, they bankers are actually coming in. Listen, John, maybe we just leave the bank

as that was. I don't know if we need them, but we need the men who run the world. Listen, John, I... Well, they have the most money, so they must be the most productive. I just thought they're really good. I don't know.

Well, the other thing is that, the implication is that, obviously, the people who are at the top of the social and economic chain are the most accomplished because they're the best, and they're the most innovative when the history of man is littered with innovators and inventors who created what we now,

like the building blocks of our society and civilization, but did not become rich savvy businessmen. You know? Yeah, those incentives were not financial. That they made, that they drove them. The idea that one only financial benefits and personal gain will drive someone to do something and two, that in a totally free society,

the best is always rewarded the most. It's just a crazy. One thing that actually- They really don't get across that idea well with the endless scenes of trains and people talking and hushed tones and restaurants. Yeah, one thing that actually, this occurs in the book,

and I remember laughing so hard when I read this because towards the end of the book Hank Reardon and some other guy think why it Ellis or Ellis Wyatt But mr. Mr. Wise Ellen was at one point in a loyal well person the flames and Oh, I must have been why because he's a CEO of the oil company and he and hangry and jump on to a burning oil rig and began to repair it as it's burning. The implication being like, because this CEO is a man who understands every aspect

of his oil business and that's how it became CEO. And I remember thinking that, like, I ran essentially predicting that, like, would this happen with Dick Cheney, like five feet away from an oil rig? Dick Cheney would jump on that oil rig and just wrap his tie around his head and just go to town on fixing the oil rig.

Wrap his tie around his head. Is he a drunken party? No, yeah, the sweat off. He's the oil rig and just wrap his tie around his head and just go to town on fixing the oil rig. Wrap his tie around his head. Is he a drunken party? No, the sweat off. He's the oil rigs on fire. He's sweating a lot. It's a Rambo tape thing. I've thought this through a lot.

The idea of Dick Traney just fixing an oil rig that's on fire. It's shirtless. It's sweat-like. It's like CEO me, so you can do. I mean, I've got watercolors. If you guys want to look at them here, I've got some. Why did you bring those? I just got, I think it really comes up

when I run a conversation. The skin tones are beautiful. There's thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, I spent a lot of time just sort of working on these things. Yeah. So I guess what I'm saying overall saying is this is a really boring movie.

Yeah, we should wrap it up. I think that we can all agree. I don't even think we need to go through final judgment. So I think we can all agree this is a bad, bad movie. Can we all just? I would say, and it's so easy to say it's a bad bad movie because it pushes a political viewpoint. I don't agree with. But then again, there are many movies that push political viewpoints that I don't agree with that I love. Like almost any action movie or yeah, your dirty Harry's say.

Your dirty Harry's your, your straws dog. Actually, that that's I wouldn't put that in that category Of movie that I love but uh like it if a move parts of parts of the dark night I Almost all the dark night. Yeah, like if but like the movie I think that has an a a and bivalent feeling about a lot of what it presents Sure sure, but about its politics. Yeah, the movie has to work on it I think there's a push pull on that, but anyway, well, I was just looking at politics. Yeah, I'm gonna go out and say there's four levels

that a movie has to operate on at least one, if not at least two of. Character, story, spectacle, and thrills. And by thrills, I just mean like, spills and chills. Spills and chills are part of that. I don't necessarily mean just like thrills is in, you know, like action, but thrills is in like,

something that gets your heart moving a little faster whether that's boobs or editing or camera work. And this fails. Or well-edited and boobs. From spectacle. Yeah. Spectacle I would say is more like scope and color. Spectacle is more the visual.

Thrills could be just the momentum or speed velocity of a film or the way it's constructed. These are just, I'm coming up these categories up on my head, so I'll refine it later and I'll put up a blog post on my blog that doesn't exist. And then everyone can unlike it on Facebook and we get a comment battle. We're gonna flame more. But anyway, it fails on a story level, character level, there's no spectacle and there's no thrills. Like, there's nothing to grab you and it's just like, it feels like watching a film strip or like a, it felt a reading like a Jack Chick comic book where like, there's even the

most basic rudiments of entertainment. The Jack Chick comic books have more thrills because like people are burning in hell. There was then with somebody getting burned by saying like there's some sort of terrible sanding that happens at the beginning which is exciting and then there's the hell burning. Okay, you know the exact same mindset. Jack Chick chick had a share of titillation. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Okay, then I retract that comparison.

I'll compare it instead to there's a comic that was put out in I believe the 40s where Dick Tray, it was supposed to be a comic to teach you about sales, but it's in the form of a Dictrae-se comic where he solves a crime at a mystery. But in the middle there's like an eight or nine page section where he's just talking to a manager at the restaurant about how important it is to customer service, the forms of customer service is what it is. That was like watching this was like reading that. It was like, okay was like reading that.

It was like, okay, we're gonna do a Dictraicy movie but it's mostly gonna be him explaining the important things. The finer points of customer service and the philosophy behind that. And then the end to a puncher guy. So a bad, bad movie all around. I think we can agree.

Yeah, yeah, by very far. Oh well, let's blood, let's blood brother it. Everybody cut your palms open. All right. This didn't hurt at all. Ah, ah, ah very far. Oh, well, let's blood, let's blood brother it. Everybody cut your palms open. All right. Yeah, this didn't hurt at all. Okay, suckers. Oh, cute. My palms are fine.

I mean, they're kind of sweaty, but. No, why, we would do that too. My friends and coworkers. Just become blood brothers now. Let's just go through it. See you so frequently. And now we're gonna, we're gonna, every time we see you, we're gonna be thinking about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah

Eventually you're gonna come to like it. Okay. I don't know why There was a lot of pleasure with that pain. I'm not gonna lie about that. It felt really good so Gonna pull up some Flophouse mail bag letters here Letters from our fans. Yeah, well, no again. Very nice. No, I'm sure they like you. Thank you for writing in. You have an entry I think in the flop house with Wikipedia page. Yeah, part of the flop house. You, this is

just your second appearance. Again, you're part of the flop of verse. I don't know. One thing that I would like to see it. I like to request that our fans when they do write in to just write, make sure the writing is a little more concise than how it's usually been. Don't ramble too much. Whoa, I feel like a lot of our fans sort of right you know And in a way to get a lot of their life on to us. I mean, I'm I see where you're going with this I feel like your problem eventually is going to end up that there's a lot of talk about me and a lot of talk about Elliott And not a lot of talk about Juman

Well, that's one thing. Yeah, there's one thing is I don't appear in these emails near as much as I'd like to appear. Well, you never do. I'm also good person to ask questions too. I can answer them. You're not going to be here, though. Stuart's going to be back. Well, I can always, in other ways, in other times,

I can answer. I can answer through my own Facebook page. I can be an administrator on the flop house page. Why would you make you admit that fans can contact me directly? I would think you do that. However, our fans want to get in touch with me? I'm happy.

We'll revisit this. Let's take a look. I think we will not revisit it. So this is titled Giant Robot Anime, or Anime. It's from Paige and Devon last name with Helds. And it's last names with Helds. And it says, Dear Flop House. No one says with Helds.'s just wanted to clarify a minor error made by

Stu and L.A.D. in the three musketeers episode is this about like neon genesis the anime you thought you were referencing in the Mailbag portion when you were talking about real steel and evangeling lily's name was actually a mashup of two different anime in neon Genesis Evangelion even gelion inion, the characters use giant robots to fight angels, with the fate of all existence being ultimately decided by an emo kid with daddy issues. The anime with the transforming robots that fight gigantic humanoid aliens and space bugs with a song is called Makross. Oh, okay. Furthermore, these two very real shows should not be confused as the other real anime where the robots are powered by still beating Dragonheart

And need to suck your blood to move which in turn should not be confused the anime where the pilot of the robot is the Japanese Bruce Wayne Who wants to have sex with the android made and is either in the matrix the whole time or might be a tomato And of course these bear near resemblance to the anime where the robots ride waves of light through the air on metal surfboards and the main characters in love with a girl that was crapped out by giant sentient sea sponge. Not to forget the anime. Which I want to know the titles to this. Where the robots are literally driven by hope and the power of spirals and become bigger by drilling and embedding themselves into other robots.

Or the anime where when the smaller robots combine into a giant robot all the pilots orgasm simultaneously. That's bulltrot. Or the anime in which the cockpit is located in the pit of the robots cock. Might we suggest the creation of your own flopphouse giant robot anime? Each flopphouse member with their own color scheme and shouted catchphrase would turn into a giant flopphouse robot. They would all fight crime on the mead streets of Duckbird. Wait, we would crush Duckbird. There's no one of giant size there. Keeping them safe for Scrooge McDuck and his lucky time. You think

that the Bigel boys are gonna be able to stand up against one mech, let alone three mechs. From the secret base, I know Popeyes chicken. Yes. They are directed by psychic alien, the flop house house cat, who is secretly Elliot from the future, which is why he's allergic to himself and the present. So, the... intricate, I like it. What would it be called though? I don't know, the name.

Flop Cross, Flop Gelion, Flop Bots, maybe just Flop Bots. I want to know the titles to all those other mech. If anyone knows the titles to those other crazy Japanese cartoony shows, please send them in, because I want to know it. Please send them to Elliot. Send them to Elliot courtesy of Dan McCoy. You send them to me, like,

yeah, please send them to me courtesy of your trash can located in the corner of your room. Wait, so whatever you're, just to print it out and then put it in the trash. You essay. Yep. One, two, three crap street garbage down USA. So I appreciate that.

I like this floppots summary. I wonder if we'll be able to get the duck tails license for Disney to do it. That was because if Stuart's involved there's going to be a lot of sex in that cartoon. Yeah. So this is you're going to be Japanese enemy robots just sort of hanging around duck bird? No, no, we're the pilots and we're fighting crime and duck bird Just okay, but except for which is I think entirely just the beagle boys. Yeah, as you've been life is like a hurricane Duck bird. Yeah, I guess I know

Riding on aeroplane no race cars lasers aeroplanes. It's kind of a letdown That's I recognize that it's like a it's like solving a mystery But I still don't believe why there would be a why I almost seems like there's a separate World going on in duckberg if you're also max fighting crime. Yeah, it's called a city There's lots of people go things do happening there. I thought duckberg was just was just like was basically just screws from ducks Mansion and his money pit. It is a Bustling metropolis. Yeah, it's the main economic and cultural center for United States of duck America and American when I understand why it's called

Jarrow Gierlus who invented a new metal That would be great for trains. Yeah, but the government of duck bird doesn't want to use it because it's unfair competition I don't I don't know if there's uncle screw just the band in duck bird then one it's screw to mcduck is not called uncle Scrooge McDuck is not called Uncle Scrooge. I, I, I, it is. I guess he is called Uncle Scrooge. They call it, yeah, Huey, Louis and Dewey call him Uncle Scrooge. He, you, you, they, they, they, they, they, they, they should be called him.

No, they call him. Oh, great Uncle Scrooge. Yeah. I don't know, Uncle Donald is, like, that's the weird thing. Well, maybe Donald and Uncle Scrooge are brothers and Donald is just aged much better than Scrooge. But then Donald says Uncle Scrooge. Yeah, Donald says uncle Scrooge. I don't know that they're really related. There are, no, there, I mean like in the Karl Marx comics, there are certain plots where it seems like Donald is just waiting around for Scrooge to die. I didn't inherit it.

Well, who would Scrooge as a jerk and a miser and he's rich? So I hope that answers your question. And just and Sprood eventually goes to gyros Gulch where you can start his own society. So this letter is titled Hodge Mane and Running Wild. I was reading John Hodgeman's new book that is all when I came across a startling passage sandwich in between his proposal for competitive hoarding reality show and a profile of the great actor and professional sinister facial hair model Ian McShane.

I found this entry for his end of the world day calendar for the date of April 28th, 2012. For those of you playing the Flophouse Humidation, this is located on page 728, or 26. It's weird that the White House Home Edition involves having to own a copy of John Hutchins book. I'll tell you the nude paintings of you guys are the weirdest part of it.

Page 726. That's a weird thing. And I quote, contrary to predictions, the 10-day night ends after only four days. Dr. Elliott Kaelin, author of the popular Ragnarok denial blog, InSkeptic, writes that this is proof of the coming global super apocalypse is nothing but a liberal

mind hoax. Yes, I agree. It makes you wonder what their religion is, why do they want us to abandon our homes so that the minds can live in them? If this was any other minor television personality, I would have passed it off as a playful name drop, but given Eliot's rough and tumble history with Mr. Hodgman, it makes me fear that he is only stepping up the level of sophistication exhibited in his bullying. Gone are the days of the hodge, simply stealing Eliot's lunch money into facing his Marvel Comics action figures, making his tenure with a daily show a daily battle of wills.

Yeah, he did throw shoes at me once too He's now gone so far as to misappropriate Elliott's very identity for his own greedy purposes I fear that if this is not addressed soon it will escalate until one day Elliott white wakes up groggy and confused and Handcuff to a radiator in the basement of Hodgmann's observatory Maybe the flop house should invest in a flop house junkyard guard dog to keep its host safe from the wilds of deranged millionaires. That's from Aaron, it's the last name with hell, and he says a PS. Dan maybe the Cyclops of the group, but let's not forget that Cyclops gets both Gene Gray and Imbra Frost and also gets to wear cool sunglasses all

the time even at night, which is the coolest time for wearing. It's very true. And in fact, I want you not to worry. Hodgman and I do have a somewhat sinister game of cat and mouse going on. But I was flattered that when he put me in his book and was very nice to finally have my anti-rag Neroq views put into print and given some kind of credence in the Lame stream pro end of the world media, but mostly I want to talk about that sunglasses at night thing

Which I guess is true. Here's the question though It's already harder for Cyclops to see anything because everything looks red to him It's like he's wearing bono sunglasses at night wouldn't it be even harder Dan Cyclops always see red though because he's wearing bono sunglasses. At night wouldn't it be even harder, Dan? This is like, I was always see red though, because he's always blasting out the red beam. But I don't know what that looks like to him. But I feel like he can't look clear. So you're saying everything looks red to him?

I feel like regardless of his glasses, he'd always be seeing red, yeah. It's possible. I mean, that's also because he's just mad all the time. That's also, yeah, literally a medical red beam. I would. That's why his catchphrase, you've got me seeing red and I don't mean lasers. It's a really confusing catchphrase. Yeah, a little bit because you have to know who he is and all this stuff. He's just a

bartender, his people who are unaware of what he is. I like the idea of a flop house home edition where I imagine it's some sort of fireball island style game that has nothing to do with movies. It's really expensive and never works right? Yeah, you guys just have to create, you just have some sort of island adventure that involves a lot of pieces, has nothing to do with movies, whatsoever.

You never reveal the secret of the Flop House own game. All you need for it is a movie and someone else to talk to. It's the extent of it. And I like that you have me begging Emma Frost, a super villainist who just wears lingerie around. Yeah, Jean Grey, you're not interested in. It's the extent of it. And I like that you have me begging Emma Frost, a super villainous who just wears lingerie around. Yeah, Jean Grey you're not interested in.

No I'm interested in her too. Oh okay. We can work something out. Emma Frost is played by a January Jones though. Yeah, yeah. That is a problem. Yeah very quiet still to conversation. You could just assume that Emma Frost looks like Hollywood

from Cool World because they're both cartoons. This last one, it's from Carl last name with Hell. I assume last name is Junior. And it addresses, it has to do with our, both of those need an S that we did not provide. It has to do with our recent live show and I want to I want to read it so we can give special thanks to him But I also want to thank everyone who came out for the live show, which was a lot of fun and I hope everyone enjoyed it As I do No, you were not there. I just want to thank the fans. He says I apologize for not making it

He says what's the address for sending us made with the flappers? I tried and mailing my pet parcel to the one two three fake street Address from the Cowboys and aliens podcast mainly my pet parcel to the one two three fake street address from the Cowboys and aliens podcast. But the package was returned. parentheses I didn't really try try that parentheses. I didn't really think you thought I'd really try that parentheses. I just thought I'd be but it'd be funny to hear Dan try to stumble over the parentheses when he tried to read this letter. parentheses parentheses parentheses. Mission accomplished. Yeah nailed it. Please be timely in your response as I have in my possession, and I'd invite all to the success of your upcoming live show. Is your tongue drunk?

Which, alas, I won't be able to attend. Oh. From reports of your last live show, which alas, I also wasn't able to attend, I'm given to understand that you host a flop house trivia contest at the event. I have the perfect prize for you and I'm willing to part with it for nothing. You see my great love of the show convinced me that owning an authentic prop from Sorority Row was a good idea for all of 10 minutes. Which unfortunately was just long enough for me to bid on such an item on eBay. Thus, in a way, it's your fault that I am now the not proud of owner of Mickey's

parentheses, Max Hennerds, screen-used cell phone, complete with certificate of authenticity, and in a different but real and legally binding way, you're obligated to take the cell phone from me, sign in and or it's a company certificate and give it out as a prize to the live event. Or I guess, if this email or the prop doesn't get to in time, you could always make it part of the prize package for choosing Stuart's new sound. On the latter note, I suggest Stuart make the sound from that lollipop song from the movie stand by me whenever he's unsuccessful at halting a bad bit by asking, is this a bit? Kind of an audible wink slash shrug to listeners to say, hey, don't look at me. I tried.

What sound is that? Like pop? I don't know if the mic probably did that. But it sounded like pop. Yeah. Well, we did receive that. And we wanted to thank Carl last night withheld. Yeah, thank you very much for donating what I assume you paid thousands of dollars for. The real screen used cell phone a Chrysler's piece of Hollywood history Chaplin's hat and Mary Pickford's jocks rap Ruby slippers from the Wizard of Oz and the Ruby swifters From the maintenance closet of the Wizard of Oz We didn't give that out.

From the Delorean, from back to the future. To Dolores. It's really hard to think about. Dolores, the cleaning lady. From the set of Back to the Future. Darth Vader's helmet to Mark Mayber, the plumber, on the set of Star Wars. It's weird that the people who work in maintenance on movies become props.

But it's so the option. And their name's Ryan with actual props. Yeah, but if you go to plan a Hollywood, you'll see right there. They're mummified remains. Sometimes they're still alive and you can, you know, you tap on the glass and they go, yeah, yeah. I swept up the cut hair on Ghostbusters. It's a sign saying, please don't tap on it. Les, Elliot. I mean, come on. You see the last you're going to tap on it. That's the fastest. That's Elliot. You always say, I'd tap that and then you do.

That's why Elliot's always tapping on our glasses. Yeah. Yeah. You see this. Yeah. But um, Glac's got a tip. Ah, ah, ah. But um, the glass is all fogged up. My hands all cut open with a flood pack. But that would be very and a lot. But a very insurious carol. Thank you for purchasing a prize that we did, in fact, hand out at the light. We did.

We asked a very exciting. Flop house trivia question that got a correct answer. And yeah, and some lucky owner, now has a flop house trivia question that got a correct answer and Yeah, and some lucky owner mm-hmm now has a flop house owned phone and we did a hilarious sorority row related bit About how we couldn't remember who that character was or when they use the phone Yeah, but you at home can now if you have that Prop reenact scenes from sorority row your heart's content I guess you could reenact them with any phone if you reenact that one.

Quiet. But thank you very much for sending us that and in return Dan what are we going to do for him? We're going to thank him on this episode of the flop house. Thanks a lot buddy. You were all about thanking people today and now suddenly you're blank. Honestly, I kind of felt like you guys have been resisting that so much that I just feel kind of kind of wanted now. I don't know. I don't feel like a part of this regular podcast. Well, Flop House listeners, right in, tell us if you want June to be a part of the Flop House podcast.

And if you say yes, then we'll kick store it out. It'll be me from now. No, that's not what I think that's. I didn't realize that the Stuart Wellington gig was one of the most coveted and show business. Everyone wants it, and I want it more than most. Not more than everyone else, just more than most. What are you willing to do for it? I'm willing to do most anything, not everything, but most anything. I mean, we're in reason, I'm not, you know, I'm not going to.

It's very all-gampicing, but very vague. Powerfully vague. Powerfully vague, yeah. So quickly. Quickly down under. Quickly down under, we should recommend films that we actually like, like, quickly down under. Yeah. Instead of Atlas, right?

We're going to see any Australian Western starting Tom Selling make it quickly down under. If you wish that Tom Selling was a couple of mice, make it the rescuers down under. If you wish that he was a guy who invented the theory of relativity, make it young Einstein. And if you want to see Einstein die, make it old Einstein. If you don't want to see Einstein die, but you still want to see him old, make it IQ with Walter Mathau. And if you want to see Walter Mathau, not as Einstein, but just as a guy, but still old,

make it I'm not rap-apport. Now, if you want to see him move with Michael Rap-apport in it, I'm not rap-a-port. Now if you want to see him move with Michael Rap-a-port in it, I'm not rap-a-port is not the movie to go to. Depending on what you want to see him do, if you want to see Michael Rap-a-port drown in the backyard pool, make it co-planned. But if you'd rather he was the guy who was taunting, uh, taunting Pat Naswald over a sports trivia,

make it, was it big fan? Yeah. Make it big fan. Now if you're interested in fans, there's a number of movies you can see, but I'd recommend watching episodes of Saturday Night Live from the early mid 90s, where the music guests play in front of giant fans. So, if you're interested in guests in movies, I'll recommend Christopher guest.

I feel like recommending actual movies is almost extraneous to this. Well, I do want to recommend one actual movie. I recently watched the first time Alice doesn't live here anymore. The early Martin Squarespace movie with Ellen Burston and Chris Christopherson and Jodie Foster as a young girl has a very funny part in it and it was really good. I'd been not interested in seeing it for a long time, but now I wish I'd seen it earlier, because I think it might be one of my favorite martin's squishies in movies now, to be honest. After having seen it. Wow.

Dan, do you have anything? Because now it doesn't live here anymore. I don't know that I actually do have any. I see fewer and fewer movies nowadays. I did see Prometheus, and I know that that's been getting a lot of mixed feelings on the internet. But I think on balance, it's definitely movie worth saying there's a lot of weird character choices that people make.

It does not hold together necessarily as a story or as a prequel to the movie Alien, but as a movie that creates a consistent creepy mood and has beautiful images in it that I'm still thinking about, it's a good one. So I think I think it's definitely worth seeing. So I'll say that. I haven't seen a movie recently that I've enjoyed. I've seen, I saw the dictator and I saw another, another not very good movie that I literally just forgot the name of right now as I'm talking. It just came out last week and I want to say that it was.

Snow White and the Huntsman. It was not, it was the other one that came out. The other big one. Yes, it was Moonrise Kingdom, which I thought did not, which I thought is beginning to show stagnation and what's Anderson's style It's still good, but sort of so same backhanded recommendation not really recommendation

I would recommend if I can we're can I recommend classics on this? Yeah, I would recommend I just recommend a movie from almost 40 years. That's a good point Yeah, I keep I keep using Alice's live here anymore with that movie movie where where that girl flies out the window. Alice. No, that's that after school special. Alice hell and a month. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is that? Where she gets still. Alice in years ago. Alice is involved in there somewhere. And like there's also not a movie that's true. My misinterpretation also doesn't follow the logic. But I every time I hear that I always think of that scene. What is that scene? I don't remember the name. It's an

after school special. That's what it was. It sounded like angel dust. I recommend that after school special where Helen Hunt jumps through window after being on PCP. I'll recommend that. It's got a lot of lessons in not using acid. And acid is a totally different thing. But I think just in general the lessons you learn from that can be fly.

You can extrapolate. And also windows. How breakable they are. How you should not run through them. Especially if you're gonna snap, believe. Yeah. And also windows. How breakable they are. How breakable, how you should not run through them. Especially if you're above one story floors. I think a lot of this stuff is timeless. Okay. So guys, I guess this is it.

Hey, let's shrug this one off, huh? With my new dance, the shrug. Do it. I'm doing it right now. Can you see it listeners? Look at it. Oh, the elephant does not like that. So he's mad. He's mad at me. I'm going to stop now. So much deep shoulder action though in those few seconds before the early, before the early, before the elephant got enraged.

Yeah, pretty enraged. It's just like that hit porn film, deep shoulder. The woman who has her, her clitoris is in her shoulders. So people have to give her deep tissue massage. It's where that orgasms. Good value though. I mean, you just go to, you know, I'm going to go to massage. You know, how to do massage.

Yeah, I did just do how to, it's a real instructional video. It's not very raw. It's like 80 hours long. Yeah, but it just costs the same amount as the movie. All right, well, this has evolved into total nonsense So before we just start making sounds we should probably sign off for the flop house I've been Dan McCoy. I'm still Elliott Kaelin. I'm Shubin Perang sitting in permanently first to a while

I hope that's not at all. See you next week. No, not. Good night. That's what I actually have saw. I actually saw a trailer for that movie. I think. So I remember seeing the part where she has a gun coming out of her butt. I actually saw a trailer for that movie. I remember seeing the part where she has a gun coming out of her butt.