The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #66 - Blood: The Last Vampire
Episode Date: October 2, 20100:00 - 0:37 - Introduction and SHOCKTOBER theme.0:38 - 8:47 - We spend nearly ten minutes introducing our special guest Federico Hatoum, and explaining why we've been M.I.A. for over a month.8:48 - 28...:49 - We talk about Blood: The Last Vampire. .. or, more accurately, "CG Blood: The Last Vampire."29:50- 34:36- Final judgments34:37 - 47:54 - PLUGS! which eventually devolve into a series of mouth-sounds.47:55 - 58:52- The sad bastards recommend. 58:53 - 1:00:12 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.
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This episode we try and cash in on the vampire craze by discussing blood the last vampire. Hello and welcome to the flop house I'm Dan McCoy.
I am Elliot Kalen.
And I'm special guest, Federico Hatume.
Oh wow.
He's my name.
He's my name.
He did half of our work for us.
Yep.
Indicating to your own special guest.
Well, I figured that was my job.
And saying your own name.
Yeah.
Was I not supposed to say that?
Well, we'd like to have the option of coming up with a fake name for the guest.
Terramid.
Yeah, we are.
Yours would have been Billy Midnight. I Midnight. So I guess he lost out.
We're continuing our trend of disappointing our audience. I mean, not your disappointment.
Oh, wow. Yeah, it's not how I took it at all. That's how I took it. And I just say,
for you, I'm offended. You know, it's usually if we've been gone for a while we like to come back with all three of
the regular hosts but Stuart I don't know what the fuck is he doing.
I don't remember if it's work or he's a shadowy guy he's kind of mysterious.
Does he say things like I had to go see some guy by some stuff?
Doesn't explain. Yeah, except he said it's more he the way he says it's like
Yeah, so I was fucking my girlfriend and
That's his version of I've seen a guy about some stuff. Okay
Make it Sundays. That's the thing they did
Well, we don't need to talk about that. He'd probably cut that out of the
Actually, he wouldn't say bang in, my girlfriend.
Oh, okay.
He would say something about getting his joint worked
or something like that.
Information is not that personal, because he shared us.
Yeah, that's true.
No, Fed is a co-host of the number one foreign language.
Spanish language.
Yeah, at this point, Spanish is not a foreign language.
It says American is how to apply.
Maccabosh podcast, Apple.
Apple related.
Apple related.
Podcast.
So it's called Budo Mac.
Believe it or not.
If you go on iTunes Spain for example,
you'll see it is always much to my surprise,
always and the top, usually the top 20 of all podcasts including video podcasts
And what do you talk about on it? We talk about Apple products and
Apple news and you know every time Steve Jobs says something that's obnoxious. We say oh that's Steve Jobs
But you say it's fanatious. We say it in Spanish. Yes. How would that go? Is this Steve Jobs is un idiota?
Blow a view of the people and well, how do you translate?
Er
It's a charming language. Yes, it's it has such subtleties. Wow. We you know, well our producer has been saying that
You know, we have a producer
I just say our producer has been saying that we're in your living room.
That we are, that the one quadrant we're not servicing is Spanish speaking.
Oh yeah, that's the one quadrant we're not servicing.
We'll fish in out those. And now finally.
Because we've already got the twin girl market.
Yes.
Already got the elderly market.
Name the fourth quadrant that we have in...
Retired servicemen.
I think Stuart, with his frequent contributions to humor and uniform, was covering that for us.
So anyway, what do we, what did we watch?
And I don't even remember we watched a
uh...
a movie called blood the last vampire blood colon the last but it did you did you
did you explain on the what we explained on the website why it had been so
long since our last episode
let's address this before we get let's kill some time
we don't have to talk about you know why you don't know well
is it married for me that's i a married okay. Yeah, that's true
And then it was just the inertia from the marriage. Oh much like Ellie. It's best friend
From high school
I can't even remember I'm doing the running joke and I can't even remember as an halfway
That's right. Yes, I just like Rachel got married. What was she doesn't even play Rachel in that movie?
She's Rachel's sister
She played your sister in your wedding. No, no my sister was played by my sister. Oh
That's not as exciting. Who by the way I spent the entire wedding
Yes, speaking of actress I spent the entire wedding trying to figure out what actress your sister looks like because she looks like someone
And I couldn't come up with it. I don't I don't want to ask her
Okay, who do you look like?
I got your twin sister and ask her.
What actress?
What famous actress she looks like.
Oh she looks like, and that's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, she's my twin sister.
Rose Murray to Whit was Rachel.
My boy, Rachel getting married.
That finally came back to me.
But yes, a month ago today, I got married.
And it's one of the reasons that the podcast has not been done is
because now that I'm married my wife no longer approves of my friends, especially
my podcasting friends. When I told her Stewart was not going to be able to make it
tonight she said it was okay. There's constantly ever said that.
It was constantly a rolling pin hovering just behind your head.
We subscribe to the Andy Cap Lockhorn School of Marriage,
which is if you're not fighting,
things aren't all right.
Wow.
So you get into like a big ball of fists and feet
and just kind of like dust lines and lightning bolts.
Interesting.
Yeah.
And so that was that work's feeling.
Yeah, that was the reason number one.
And the reason number two was I was doing some
First I was doing some freelance work for cinematics that may or may not see air. So I can't wait
You would tell about the role you're playing on the new show New York sex debates
I'm playing text McCabe
The stubbly stranger from out west who comes and the citizen's misty Monday. I know I
I'm doing some animation work on Mary and Minot
Be broadcast so that's and then and then number two. I was in the New York TV and video festival
Yes in support of my
Independent television pilot 9 a meeting
of my independent television pilot, 9A in meeting.
Based on the successful series. Which, which won the MTV Award for Animation,
which came on.
So you got one of those moon men, Stoke Babies?
Yeah, I got some gold plated popcorn.
Popcorn, you won the moon man on it.
Yeah.
You won for Best Kiss.
It was me and Kristen Stewart.
And yeah, I was tremendous. That was actually
I was at the first screening of the whatever animation you were in animation group 2 and
I have to say I've seen all the episodes before but I really enjoyed seeing it in a big group of people and the audience loved na na na na na na na na. You know who did not love it was the reviewer
from the Aungi Naeemee club.
Really?
Who came to the show?
No, he gave us a seat.
That was crap.
He wrote, or she wrote a of all the animation things.
I think yours might have had the longest review
with the most specific Senate.
Like this was obviously a show that stuck in this person's mind
the most.
And yet at the end, they're like, but it gets a little tired after a while, which is
one especially compared to the other things that were in your block of nominees, not true.
And then it was like they were going out of their way to not, you know, to not give a good
grade.
I bring it up just because I'm a negative person, but I mean I bring it up because I like to burn bridges
Yeah, I do like but ultimately that AV club Dan McCoy thinks you're terrible
I love the NGNAV club, which is why it hurts my
Never read your rag which I love by the words
But it just doesn't matter because
Because ultimately MTV gave us the money.
Yes, congratulations.
It did play very well with an audience.
I saw the second screening of it.
Oh, it did.
It's been a mainstay of Channel 101.
We were brought back for 10 months in a row.
So it plays well for us.
I feel bad I haven't seen any of those.
That's fine.
I'm just saying I know the perfect place for us. if it didn't, they would have canceled us long ago.
Yeah, that's true.
So that's why we haven't had done a show in a while,
in a podcast while, but we're coming back
with one of our best episodes ever, I think.
We got it.
BL Infinity D, the last vampire.
Yeah, that's how it's written.
Actually, the 2o's look like an infinity symbol
I'm not sure why they did that. It should be I guess BL infinity D colon
The last vampire
Or it should have been a an eight
Like you write a B when you're writing boobs on a calculator
I would just draw boobs on the calculator like on the keypad just ruin it. Yeah
I would just draw boobs on the calculator. Like on the keypad.
Just ruin it.
Yeah.
I don't even get to use it.
It's sharpening.
Ah, boobs.
Let's set, let's sex up this calculator a bit.
Yeah, come on.
Come on, Texas Instruments.
Take TI, you're not giving me an interaction.
Let's make TI into T and A. Yeah.
High five.
ROCK in the USA, right there.
But so we saw blood the Last Vampire, which appears to be an English language Japanese film.
It's an English language version.
It's a live action version.
As they say in the credits, it's based on the animation blood the Last Vampire.
So I guess that's what they say.
Is it common where an animation becomes a live action film?
Like I mean yeah if it's successful we which we did for the flop house was
another and Avatar the last airbender and And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles You know what? Yeah, that's super good. Oh, that's not Japanese. I don't where we just talking Japanese
Well, I thought you just said animation in Japan. I think it is I think it is more common in Japan
So resolved but
It was interesting that they said based on the animation, but I guess trying to make it sound adult
Not based on the cartoon or based on the drawing
American Americanize the term anime. I mean like that would be literal. Well, the American version is Japanimation
Which is what the section in the video story grew up with labeled it Japanimation
Japan animation. I love that term action.
And the phrase turns.
But it's a story we're all familiar with of a young girl.
The tale is old this time.
The tale is old this time of a young girl
of indeterminate centuries of age
who fights demons with a sword dressed as a schoolgirl.
But she started out as a little girl. She starts out as a little girl trained by her old man dad. And of course she's working with
a shadowy organization that cleans up after her murders of vampire demons. And she's just
trying to get revenge on the vampire demon who killed her father called on again, called
on again, which and so for for this mission she sent to an
American army base on in uh... in japan and it's at nineteen seventy it's a time for
no reason yeah it's almost like they just they bought they bought too many sideburns
yeah it's a little bit easier to get a sideburn warehouse because if not for a
gross sideburn burns what we do
with and there's one headline that says
uh... u.s. bombers ravish Vietnamese
landscape which i think they probably meant ravage and i pointed out they
probably meant radish because the radishes are very important in
japan's culture that's very true but they so they're apparently ravishing
landscape where so I guess these
planes are just gorgeous. Just, you know, having their
seducing the Vietnamese landscape. Right. But there's not
too much going on in this movie. It was short. This might
be the shortest movie we've watched. It's like 84 minutes
long. No, it was 80. It was 88 minutes. I don't think so. I'm like including the movie 88 minutes, which was like two hours
But it was your false advertising
the
But it's basically this girl gets a mission she wants revenge on this demon
She goes she kills a lot of demons. There's an American girl sidekick and I don't mean by that one of the American girl dolls
It's not like it's it's the you know, but Paulie grows up in 1837
but
It's it seemed very by the numbers but at the same time in the way it was made totally crazy. Yeah
And yeah, it was, and it was really straightforward.
She's given a mission to fight demons.
Another girl discovers their demons and so she joins in on the mission.
And they fight demons.
Sort of a life and leave, but then really, like she seems to suddenly know everything
about demons.
At the end, she's had no experience with them before.
Yeah.
She's a long flashback at the end to the demon hunting girl getting trained or like I guess her father
being killed.
And then flashbacks within flashbacks of things we'd never seen before.
Yes.
For training.
And then it turns out at the end that the head demon is was her mother and that's it.
And then she kills her and that's the end of the movie.
I don't remember that.
It's in the climax of the film.
What?
It's literally announced maybe five times during the climax of the film.
Yeah, but I am your mother.
Now you must kill me because I am your mother.
To become me.
Why?
Why was the American girl in this movie, guys?
I have no idea.
To get, she of the audience identification
character she's she's a pretty girl but then she is a pretty girl who's
having trouble with her aren't her one-star general father who looks kind of
like a cross-preen ellie Ellen Page and no and Ellie Kaelin I think that's
what you're gonna say you're gonna say say Elliot Kaylen and Ellen Page. I can't think of a prettier combination.
Rattishing, Elliot Kaylen.
Rattishing.
Rattishing.
I've been told I'm rattishing.
You're very tart like a radish.
But she's basically, she's supposed to be the star of the movie, basically.
But she is not interesting and the real star is the Japanese girl with the super sword
skills.
She has more, you know, it being an English language movie, she has more lines than the
real star.
She says more words.
Yes, but that's also because the real star is like this silent mysterious type.
But there's no reason for her to be there.
Other than...
True.
She's being attacked by demons and
What was the the main characters she a shy shy a shy
I'll both shy shy love off
Is there to save her from the demons, but it could have been his name by the way his name in French means shy of the beef
Interesting
So what would that be it's Spanish faith? Shia Lakarni Yes. I'm afraid. No, that... Interesting. Tell me what that means Spanish, Fed.
Shaya Lakarni.
Oh, beautiful.
It's a beautiful language.
Yes, that's...
Dan, are you...
Are you fanning yourself?
Are you coming?
Like a Southern lady in the...
Come in, the interbellum, sir.
Oh, my God.
I declare.
Mr. Fed.
That's why you invited me over.
I'm...
I didn't see first. He's not even recording right now.
This is all made of paper mache and marzipan.
That's why it's so delicious.
Delicious and flowery. Deadly.
But the scene where the demons reveal themselves to the American girls is very strange because
like, you know, I'm just going to call our hero blood at the last vampire because they're
in the middle of an actual character.
Her name was Saya.
Saya, that's right.
Saya.
And the American girl was either named Alice, Alison, Hollis or Anis.
There are a lot of different accents screaming her name throughout the movie.
So it sounds different every time someone and I think she might be the only actually American actress or actor in the field.
Everyone else. Everyone else there was American in quotes.
For a while, for a while, for a while, and then suddenly they'd say something.
They're accent-win-driff. drift hey come over here you girl you've got to do what
you said they were correcting themselves they were really weird but yeah they they also
said do that line again no they said we're running at a film let's just keep it rolling it's the
last vampire fat they don't have a lot of time. But no, there was, like, Saya infiltrates the school,
this military-based school, where I guess these two demons
reveal themselves to Alice and get mad at her
because Alice had an insight about Frankenstein
in the English class.
In their English class, Alice has a very potent insight, proven into Mary Shelley's Frankenstein in English. In their English class, Alice has a very potent insight,
proven into Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
They're the two caddy girls who don't like her,
then stay with her after Kendo practice,
because they're on the Kendo team.
Of course.
As many American kids are.
And turn into demons, not going to kill her before Blood and the Last Vampire saves her. They're on the Kendo team of course as many American kids are and
Turn into demons not gonna kill her before blood the last vampire saves her and
It yeah, they just the demons just suddenly start not liking Alice and wanting to kill her for no Yeah, I'm revealing them so I mean guess you know like houses because then she your house is gonna die
But it's very sure that then she goes to she goes to a bar and
the Kendo teacher is there and he's like she confronts him but it's very short. It's very short. It's very short. It's very short. It's very short.
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It's very short. It's very short. It's very short. It's very short. It's very short. father was like the head demon killer yeah there's gonna get to him or something
and unless we missed it there's never seen where a character says like the
prophecy says only in a man you know you will blah blah blah blah
they're only true American among fake American accents you know we'll
we'll bring us all to yeah instead the kind of TV which just turns into like a cross between the Giver and the
the creeper from Jeepers creepers and flies off with
There were some neat moments though in that that sequence like when he
He grabs he grabs Alice and then goes running along the
the building tops
No, yeah, look It it's some of the scenes.
It gets, it's like everything is
cut, cut, cut, cut, camera swooshing around.
Oh, slow down.
Fast again.
Okay, look at that.
Super cut.
And then you go, and it was done for no reason.
For no effect, no reason.
And there was all this fake CG blood everywhere.
Yeah, all the blood was CG and like the demon blood I guess was supposed to look different than the human blood
They all looked it all looked the same and never staying anything she's like fighting in a white dress and never gets any blood on her
Yeah, but it was but like but the action scenes were genuinely fun like the choreography you couldn't figure out
Just cutting when it was still neat moments. Yeah, well, it's weird to weird too. Sometimes bad special effects are charming,
and sometimes they're just off-putting.
And all of the CG blood looks like shots of melcon zero gravity
or something like that.
Whereas like, just fudge spurting out of things.
The monster on the other hand, the bad animation
kind of made him look like an old like old fashioned like
Flashlight Titans or something. Yeah, there was something charming about it. So I don't know. I don't know release the
Giver. Oh, by the way, this is I don't know I don't know why I feel very disfacible this because it's so stupid, but this is our first
Shocktober episode of the season. Oh, you forgot that. Oh, yeah
This is I think no we should be 20 two minutes in with the right time to announce that to reveal it
I've blood the last vampire was our shocktober in October episode number one. It's really not a not a harm movie
It's so much as an action
Gory action
And I'm an old man get an old man gets covered in knives and then his hand gets cut off.
It's the Shocktober movie.
Well, as you pointed out, Elliot, Shocktober just means that there's a 4% more chance
that we'll watch a horror-oriented film.
As opposed to something where Katherine Hygge and Gerard Butler get about for a while
before falling in love.
Get about.
That's the best way to describe it.
I was trying to explain to someone recently
how bad the movie The Ugly Truth is.
And I was having trouble getting across
without just describing scenes outright
and saying lines of dialogue from it.
In Injured, but most terrible, like really over
and unseated American accent.
You don't understand, guys only want sex, come on.
Don't you get it girl?
I'm a truth teller.
And ugly truth.
I'm the last sane man in a world gone mad.
He never says that.
He doesn't?
Well this film had a lot of really bad lines
that they were just like lifted from from other films
What is he?
You've gone soft old man
Per that a thousand times now who's stupid
Exactly after he shoots somebody I was almost waiting to hear something like I'm getting too old for this shit
Yeah, it's quiet too quiet too quiet exactly well. Yeah, show me the money
And the you complete me. Yeah,
wish I could. I wish I knew how to quit you. The general character, the father of the
the I could have saved more. So she has lists. I could have been somebody. That old line. Yeah.
The father of the of Alice. I think that in terms of
Bad performances. I think he rates only a second to Chris Klein
In Street Fighter Legend of China. Yeah, I didn't see that one. That is a
Also bad movie and Chris Klein is in it and it's like it's like he someone bet him you can't emphasize every syllable that you say
Yeah
He and Nicholas Cage got drunk one night
And like the next movie that we do
Let's just try and have to each other. Let's see you know worse and like Chris Klein won
Chris Klein won that bet. There's a lot of bad.
This is not a good, this is like a very forgettable movie.
I'm having a hard time remembering scenes from it.
But it zipped along.
It's not super fast editing if you like that.
Like you said, you said, hey, it was quick, it was short.
Very excitedly, you said that at the end of the movie. Yeah, we're done with it. Yeah it was short very excitedly you said that the end of the
movie yeah we're done with it yeah I was very excited because we've been watching a
lot of movies lately that have felt like they've been about seven hours long
and there have been long scenes of people just walking around or looking at
things or robin Williams and john trevolta like comparing how many pills they
take for their old age problems you you know, Mugging to the camera. Yeah, after a movie like White Out, this is just a delight, you know.
Now this has short scenes of people getting cut with a cataract. Yeah, right.
People jumping around and getting blood spurting out of them, fake blood, yes.
And monsters suddenly remembering they can grow wings
and you know the right so there was this whole scene where the the monster grabs
allison or hollus
or aniston or whatever name is
and drags across the
the roof top she's being chased by
sia the japanese school girl with the with the with the katana
cattabla
and then suddenly
like i can fly i I'm going to fly and fly as a way.
But fly is away in a straight line following a road pretty lower to the ground,
pretty low to the ground so that they can chase it through the streets. He's following it very easily.
And he's he they get to a runway and he's following a cargo plane with propellers on it.
And we're all expecting him to get cut up in those propellers.
So we're going to have to go through those propellers. Nope. and we're all expecting him to get cut up in the propeller. Nope doesn't have
on the plane or like why why did
he fly to the airbase.
Yeah it seems very expensive for them to shoot on
and also somehow in between cuts
our main characters have gone from running from the monster to chasing the monster.
Oh right exactly. It's a movie that really follows no rules.
And it breaks.
It knows the rules are made to be broken.
And you get the idea that, well, she can get on the army base or whatever, because her
father is the one star general.
So they all know her.
But there's never seen of like, you know, let me in or, you know, don't you know who
I am or something?
She just drives right in.
Like, well, what she had done that anywhere. it's a poorly guarded army base it was the same way that one thing
our bases are not known for is their security that's true the same way also that like when
they're fighting a band of demons in the sun in the streets and then just being chased
with the streets they're in I think the the if I if it's the correct name against the
neighborhood which is where like all the bars and things are which should be
the street should be packed with people sure and but no it's empty completely
empty for demons it's like it's like the whole city
just took a just went on vacation oh and then this
the two cleaners just come up in like in like five minutes clean up like what
a hundred bodies yeah well that's the other thing is that
everywhere that are the the heroin goes she's followed by two identical guys who are bald and
have mustaches they look like what's his name from uh
from from lovely bones yeah I love like two Stanley two cheese two Stanley
two cheese yeah or like the two guys from ten ten with no bowler hats and they
just walk they just clean up all the bodies and leave but they have like
supernatural cleaning powers
well you know as long as he wasn't the character of lovely bones
will be more fun to do Stanley two
that's it that's it's a let's say he's the characters from bruleck
comes to the interior of christian agilir
the movie that posits that there is an enormous glitzy underground
brolesk scene in l.a. that has a lot of money flowing through it.
Isn't there?
And also that the plot of coyote ugly can just be taken wholesale.
Ah. By the way, coyote ugly and showgirls, the same movie,
two different ratings.
I think I can think of the reason why coyoyote Ugly has a different rating than show.
No, I know, I'm not, I'm not.
It's probably the full frontal nudity.
I'm not arguing that the different ratings are wrong.
I'm just saying, like if you boil it down, there are two movies that are the same plot
that are going after the same thing.
Only one of them has the courage of its convictions and the other one is like, eh, maybe we'll
throw a thong in here. So, um about this. This is an axiom or grind. This is my thesis.
This is my thesis. Your dissertation. Why are you sweating? For your doctorate in crap.
Your PhD in shit from sorry. Allie, why do I go too far. This podcast is part of my PhD.
It's your ongoing thesis.
Disertation.
Your ongoing thesis called Life.
From the school hardnoss.
You really beloved it.
We're going to gather you today.
Anyway, so yeah, let's just...
What more can we say?
So, blood the last man part.
You know, it is what it is.
Let's just make some judgments.
Let's just be very real.
Okay, well, I like your glasses.
Alright.
We're gonna do the final judgments.
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No, that's not from geographic right? Yeah.
Well, it's usually not done like as if you're trying not try to make
sure nobody hears it. I remember that mainly from the beginning of
the twilight zone of the movie. Look at that old man. He looks like an old
Maybe the best thing about the movie
It's our Brooks and Dan Acroix
Yeah, that's the only good scene in the whole movie
Anyway, final stretch was this is a good bad movie a bad movie, a movie you actually kind of liked in some way, if I'd go.
I think it's a bad, bad movie.
I really did not.
I enjoyed a few moments, a few shots, a few scenes, or moments of scenes were interesting,
but in general it was just really, I didn't find it amusing.
There wasn't enough of a, well, I laughed, but I didn't laugh the right
reasons. It wasn't trying to make me laugh, and it wasn't, it took itself way too seriously,
and I, I did not really care for it. I enjoyed hanging out with you guys, though.
Thanks.
I thought you'd recommend that to the viewers.
Yeah, I'd recommend hanging out with you guys watching.
You could swing it.
Um, if, uh,. It's too long.
Yeah, what I would say about this is,
I hate to be wishy-washy.
I feel like we've gone to an area of non-answers recently.
But talk about quadrants.
I feel like this, I mean, like, it's their tritons.
This opera, this.
I am so confused.
This occupying is all three tritons of a tritons. I am so confused. This occupying is all three tritons of a...
Like tritons like you use when you're spear fishing?
What do you mean gum? What is?
I mean this is a good bad movie in the sense that it is not a well-made movie but I enjoyed
much of it. It's a bad, bad movie in that much of it
is deeply boring.
And it's a movie I actually kind of liked
in some way in the sense that I don't think it's good
because I laughed at it, like the stuff that I enjoyed in it.
You enjoyed genuinely.
I enjoyed genuinely.
So it's sort of a hard call to make.
I would say, if you turn it off after like maybe 40 minutes, you
might have a genuinely enjoyable experience with this movie because it gets really silly
and crazy for a while and then it gets dull and it gets duller actually as it goes on.
And the ending makes even less sense than the rest of the movie.
Yeah. I would say like go through like the big like weird massacre in the town square and like
the right up until the demon like getting killed on the the air strip and then that's enough.
Yeah.
You can turn it off right there.
You can turn it off.
Because I didn't.
We didn't.
No, we watched all of it.
We watched it so they don't have to.
Yeah, exactly. And they don't have to Yeah, exactly and they don't want to
I
I feel the same way you do Dan like it's not a good movie
I wouldn't really recommend it necessarily but I did enjoy big chunks of it. So I feel like
If it's it's one of those things were like if it was
130 in the morning and you wanted to watch a
was one 30 in the morning, and you wanted to watch
some kind of violent demon battle, and then go to bed. Like, that's your movie, right there.
Yeah, dial this up on your Netflix, InstaQ,
then maybe like after the town square,
you could fast forward to the fight between the ninja demons
and the old man where he gets stabbed to death.
Actually, that scene was actually, that was kind of cool.
There was like, they were coming out of the ground,
and that's interesting.
But for me, if she ran up a tree for no reason,
and then slid down, and it's having a time.
Yeah, to blow the sword in the eyes.
That's where they had the flashback of a flashback
of something we'd never seen before.
And they have a sword.
There's a demon's underground, and his sword is running,
is like, it's like BuzzFoney going, you know, burrowing underground with just a sword sticking up.
But getting there is the con it's like, there's not half the fun.
Yes. If there's enough of that for me to say it's a good bad movie.
Yeah. If ever there was a movie that you, it is fine to watch the best scenes out of context and there's no reason to watch the rest of it
You know, but someone gave you a cheat sheet and said jump to minute 12 and watch until minute 22 and then jump to this minute
And watch these five minutes. You will know that they have spent too much time watching
Go ahead and watch the fight scenes watch any scene that is like supposedly
filled with 1970s flavor or where the general is talking to his daughter because
he is a terrible actor. Yeah I mean it's a other stuff you might not get if you
want if you see it because it's a pretty subtle movie like when you first see
the army base they play war what is it good for on the soundtrack and it's like
that's a kind of a subtle touch that the movie's taking a bold antivetanom or stance
movies asking a question or what is it good for yeah and I guess really
the world of demon vampires right so I guess now we should move on but before
we get into recommendations I think we'll go to blogs.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, let's do the plugs now so that people
don't skip over them.
Yeah, no, no, so they can't skip over them.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I do.
As soon as I listen to this podcast every week,
well, whenever it's on, and I always,
and towards, don't revenue.
Whenever I hear plugs, I'm like, forget it. I grab grabbed my my iPod and I throw it on the ground and smash it
I'm not gonna listen to that
That seems you could just press pause or you know no no
We are all I don't want to even hear the plugs
It's like I don't even want to near my ears
Well I apologize. Yeah, well, it's very costly for me
Hopefully it's you costly for me.
Hopefully it's you got a bulk discount.
Elliott, what do you want to buy them blister packs?
What do you want to plug?
What will I plug?
Well, well, well, seven packs.
Well, I won't plug that.
I host a monthly film screening series in New York City, the City of Angels. that's what i want to look at that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I stole that joke from Janus. It's not even a name for the thing. It's a live one.
That's a good question.
Come on.
I've often said that once it gets to rock and roll a color war,
I can't really take it anymore.
I host a monthly film screening in New York City,
close to watch films.
Our next one is next week. Will this be going
up this weekend, Dan? So this coming week Wednesday, October 6th at 7.30 p.m. I'll be showing
the film, The Black Cat starring Bell Legosi and Boris Karloff, the best of the movies they made
together and the first of the movies they made together directed by Edgar Geomer, which involves Belagosi as an insane psychiatrist.
He's the hero of the film, Boris Karloff as a satanic architect who has the best pajamas
I've seen in a movie.
The movie is very, has a very neat kind of like, art, decogothic look to it.
And for some reason that means some of the best men's pajamas
that I've seen in movies.
But it's a movie that it's one of the universal horror films
of the 30s, and it's one of the lesser watched ones
because there's no like big name monster in it.
But it's a very creepy, weird movie and like there's satanism
and torture and general weirdness and death and creepiness
and like World War One guilt and things like that.
Like it's this weird stew of elements and it's a very haunting movie.
So I'll be showing that and then I'll also be showing in a very cut down version.
That I'll be showing in full on 35 millimeter
print. And then I have edited down the movie Dr. X starring Lionel Atwill from its original
run of 75 minutes down to about eight and a half, nine minutes. And I'll be showing you
just the best parts of the Lee Tracy Lionel Atwill semi not really a classic, but it's
pretty fun. Dr. X, which is another weird,
it's another weird one that it's a 30s horror movie that involves like cannibal murders
and things like things that you would not expect to find in the 30s.
Howdy.
Well, I wasn't going to ask you this.
So first of all, where do you get the prints from?
The prints, the people at 92 I try back aware, the movies are screened.
I should say that.
So 92 I try back, which is 200 Hudson Street, downtown in
TREBECCA.
And I hope Dan will put up the information on the website.
Thank you.
They get the prints from different distributors and Christina,
who is the programmer, they're actually arranges to get them.
So, and we once had to show a 16 millimeter print of closely
watched trains because we couldn't find it. They couldn to show a 16 millimeter print of closely watch trains because we couldn't
find it.
They couldn't find a 35 millimeter, but everything we've shown otherwise is 35 millimeter
prints.
And we've got a good slew of movies coming up, the black cat on Wednesday, October 6th.
In November, we'll be showing Doddsworth, which is at a print on DVD, I think.
And in December, we'll be showing a thousand clowns, which was never never been released on DVD and there it should all be very good prints
well that sounds like a shocked over treat
thank you!
it's a very nice feat of say
you're still in for anything right?
so I would like to plug, I mean well first of all
it's not a trick
it's not a treat
it's not gonna soap the but a treat. It's not going to, it's not going to soak the windows.
No, or egg the house.
You just say that all through October, like you're at a restaurant,
they're bringing you food.
Here's your hamburger, sir.
A perfect, shocked,
October hamburger.
I don't, I don't shocked,
October know what you're talking about.
Well, well, shocked,
October fest again, huh?
This beer is spookily good.
I didn't do our...
That reminds me of a special Shocktober festivities.
This is, you know, you're a little rusty.
It's been a month.
Little rusty.
Rusty flop house.
Third year in a row of Shocktobertober and I have dropped the ball.
Did you just say that you were like a vampire voice?
It's like when you're a hero, was this scarily bad or like spookily good?
Was this a real scare factory?
A real snorf factory or was it, I don't know.
A duck factory.
Starting Jim Carrey
Better so I would like to plug well first of all you should go to 9am meeting dot com and watch the award winning
Web series very funny. It's a very funny series. You sound so grudging
Well, I just I hate I begrudge anyone else's success. No, I know.
As anyone in comedy.
It's really very strange because you're so much more successful than me.
Well, I like to keep a safe margin between the two of us.
So anything you do that closes that margin a little bit.
Yeah.
But I also would like to plug on October the 18th, which is a Monday, I don't know exactly
when, I'll put it on the website so
moon day
on october the eighteenth
a screenplay i wrote
is being uh... red at the jcc the jewish cultural center as part of the
w g a east
writers guild of american east
uh... reading series yet don't worry everybody. Dan did not convert.
No. He is not abandoned his faith just to get a screenplay read in the JCC. It's true. It was it was chosen. It was chosen by the writers guild. The JCC just
happened to be a good venue. And so there are two screenplays that are having excerpts written or read. Twenty page excerpts are going to be read
from my screenplay and another gentleman's screenplay by professional actors. And the cost
is $10 for the general public, $8, I believe, for guild members.
That's me. Yeah. Hey.
Only $8 bucks. I'll buy a ticket now. Here, Dan. Here's $8.
Thank you. Can you write me out a ticket? No, I can't enjoy the eight dollars doll
but if you want to come and
See what qualifies me to make fun of movies, which is nothing because
Because this is not a produce screenplay
You can do that you can come and enjoy 20 pages and not know what happens next.
And what day is it again? It's October the 18th. That's a Monday.
At what time? I think it's at 730, but I'm not sure.
My screening is also at 730. Okay. So that might be a conflict.
Well, they're not on different dates. Oh great. Okay. Then that shouldn't be a problem.
Then I can go to both. Yeah. And you can two, you can two listeners.
So you can't do anything at 730 any day.
Not if I have, yeah.
No, if you have something coming up at 730, then forget it.
No, just come to our stuff.
And you'll put up the information on the website
for your screenplay reading.
Yes.
What's the name of your screenplay?
It's called orientation.
And speaking of demons, it involves demons.
So if you enjoyed the demon, it was the last vampire.
If you like demons, you'll love orientation.
Yeah, if you want demons in a 20-page form that does not involve the last vampire, this is your best option.
Sounds pretty good, actually, yeah.
If you're getting your PhD in demonology,
don't forget to show up for the orientation
at the university that teaches demonology.
The JCC.
Perfect.
Perfect.
I'm just trying to come up with a good,
no, no, get in tune for your film.
And I'll get it.
Just give me an hour or two.
I work on it.
What do you want to plug, Fad?
Nothing really to plug.
I'll tell you.
That would have been a better movie.
Plugged the last fanfire.
PL infinity.
P.L.
P.L.
P.L.
P.L.
P.L. P.L. P.L. P. Blue. Comfort artist Mike Blue. That's the best room part. The last vampire.
Well, I'll just mention again that I do this podcast called Boodle Mac.
It's a Spanish language podcast about Apple and its products and so on and doing it for
four years.
And I'll say it again, much of my surprise, it's wildly successful.
It really, I don't, it's odd to say this,
but it really is the number one Spanish language podcast
about Apple that's out there.
I can't explain it.
I don't often think it's that good,
but people seem to like it.
So there you go.
Good pitch.
Wow.
Way to plug.
No, it's, I'm very stuffed up for kidding about it.
It's just, it's a conversation between two friends.
It's my friend Flavio and me.
And we just talk about Apple stuff.
And we share things we've learned.
And we, we bitch about Apple.
And it's a good hour.
Now plug it again in Spanish.
If you don't speak Spanish, you know, you won't speak Spanish.
I think we have the widest podcast audience of any podcast.
We have a lot of letters from prisons.
We was surprising a number of female fans though.
I would not.
I mean, I was my mother.
You said group. No, I understand. I'm aware of what you said. I understand gender.
On a separate note, I'm surprised by the number of female fans that we have.
I'm not. We say a lot of funny things. You have a steward and yours, your deep, deep, deep, that's what I'm saying. You've got my high pitched squeal.
Yeah.
That makes women, that brings out the,
it calls women to the yard like a dog whistle.
It brings, it's like a maternal,
brings out the maternal element in them.
Oh, the child sounds like he's in trouble.
He needs taken care of.
Yeah.
It's hungry.
Sorry, ladies, I'm taken.
So, just missed them.
There's already someone to deal with my unmanageable neuroses.
But, you know, we're...
That doesn't have anything to do with how higher voices.
My unmanageable neuroses, I would put the bucket of cheers in a second, sir.
All right. Well, you've heard it here. A challenge.
And the neuroses are...
Which one of our wives were... Pre-neurotic. I don't know who would win. All right, well you've heard it here a challenge and a row sees all
Which one of our wives will leave us first is the challenge good quest Well, are we start counting from the beginning of the marriage because you would marry
No, I think I think it's the only fair way to do it is in total number of years
Okay, I mean yes
This is a competition you really have to do it fairly
Okay, yeah, well what really should keep what's the over under on this? I don't know
I mean the thing is I we can't not there was can better it because then we'll just try and drive our wives off or drive the other ones
Wife off true and the funny part is no matter who wins you both lose
That is funny. Yeah.
This is my own.
So let's move on to regabulations.
Recommendations.
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Okay
Oh yeah
Man we've driven around audience off with mouth sounds.
I guess we do have a set.
We're not the mouth sound podcast.
I'm doing two hours if people just want,
boom, boom, boom, boom.
So this is the part where we...
De-ly-ly-de-deep.
This is the part where I recommend rupees.
It's late.
It's good times.
Recommend movies that we saw that we enjoyed that one might like to see rather than
blood the last vampire.
I'm going to start off and say that I haven't seen a lot of older movies recently, but
two movies that I saw this summer that were not financial successes, certainly.
And to a lesser degree, we're not critical successes although did did pretty well uh... were prana 3d and uh... sky program versus the world
uh... both uh... very niche films
but both uh... both enjoyable entertainment yeah both satisfied
the sweet spot i mean like prana 3d uh... had the absurd levels of nudity and
war the one would expect out of a late seventies uh... early the absurd levels of nudity and gory the one would expect out of a
late-semities uh... early to mid-eighties movie but have not seen since
and uh... that was and that well that we that was a special occasion to
uh... we went to see prana 3d the day of my wedding that
awesome the audience might think that's a joke it is not
uh... me and uh... dan was one of my groomsmen, me and my groomsmen and a couple other
friends decided that including Flapphousers Stewart Wellington. Flapphousers Stewart Wellington
and Flapphous Super fans, Sanyi or Ocean, Matt Carmen. We decided to all go see Prada 3D,
the day of the wedding early in the morning, just to get out of the show here. Yeah.
And to get out of the way, because you got to see it before the wedding.
And it was a lot of fun.
We were the only, I felt bad for the other two people in the audience who were not with
us because we talked and laughed throughout the movie and probably ruined their genuine
appreciation of piranha 3D.
But that was a lot of fun.
I was very enjoyable.
And Adam Scott and Christopher Lloyd were particular high points. run a three day but that was a lot of fun it was very enjoyable uh... and uh...
at the sky and Christopher Lloyd were particular uh... high points
and jerry connoisse very funny and uh... uh... kelly broke who was new to in the
water
so that was good to get there's a lot of newt and uh...
women and like
nudity followed by violence
it there is not i'm. There is not a fan.
I'm not a fan of nudity.
Like the best, the best nakedness was the,
on the non-parana attack long underwater nude ballet.
Because the underwater,
the nude underwater lesbian ballet was,
was the high point of the film.
You sold me a nude.
I didn't even know what's did, what they're doing.
I don't think you're the rest of it.
There's a nude, okay, I'm going.
Really, I want to figure that underwater would be the thing that sold you.
I like underwater too.
That's a good thing.
It reminds me of, I mentioned, I was a long time ago in an old old podcast,
I was talking about something I overheard at Comic Con,
that I thought was a website called aquafan.com
But it was aquaman fan.com and we looked up what aquafan.com was and it was a blog about underwater sex
And there was only one posting to it
It was underwater sex anybody tried this question mark
That was it that was it that's the entire blog
But anyway, but that but and scott pilgrim versus the world
is also fine entertainment like uh...
you know when it when it tanked i felt sort of bad i didn't have that not
seeing it i felt bad because of like oh you know i was feel bad when something
that i
think is sort of pitched to me
uh... goes poorly and you know i like at the right i like the comic site you
know but i will watch the movie and I realized that to anyone who didn't have a very specific
grounding in like classic video games, comics, Japanese culture, like alternative like rock,
like all these things, like it must have been a baffling experience.
And you know, it's enough that the movie got made.
It's enough of the movie got made and I enjoyed it.
Well, not for the makers of the film.
Those people are gonna make other movies.
You know what, like,
that's...
No, but I feel the same way.
It felt, when I watched, I enjoyed a lot
and I felt like this was a movie that hit my spot,
but I could see why it would not be the right movie for
other people.
I didn't see it, but I didn't see it not because I didn't want to.
I never got around to seeing it, but it looked like it was really enjoyable.
I want to see it on you.
Oh, naturally.
You podcast about Apple.
So I think.
Oh, so probably in the demographic.
Oh, I guess.
Well, I just like to.
I know there's an old man who hosts a podcast about apples
He'd like it. See good point
The imagery
This is Tom Johnson. I like Apple.
Good Apple in Tewia.
Good Apple in Tewia.
I'm stuck on that.
But the imagery, like the...
No, it was beautifully shot.
It looked really amazing.
Yeah.
It was too bad it didn't find its audience.
Or it's where its audiences were. It'll find its audience in TV. Yeah, I'm sure of it didn't find its audience. I think it was audience's work.
It'll find its own audience.
I'm sure of it.
Netflix or whatever.
I hope so.
Ben, do you have any argument?
Sure.
I saw this movie a while ago, and it's been, I think it's been out for three or four years.
It's been out for a long time.
But I remember that when I saw it, I was very surprised at how much I liked it and it's the mist
Which is a film version of a Stephen Stephen King
novella novella wasn't even like a full length
Stephen King telling novella right?
the old you
and
it was
If you're unfamiliar with it, it's about what happens to a town, but more specifically,
to a bunch of people who are trapped in a grocery store when this mysterious mist envelops the town
and the grocery store and they're trapped inside. And the reason I liked it so much was because,
well, apart from, from, from very good good acting and the fact that the special effects were were well done
they served the purpose of the film as opposed to being the reason for the film like Transformers or something like that.
It was really just a story about what happens when people are trapped in a place and they can't leave and they all have very different ideas about what
life is about and how to survive and what they're supposed to do and how
how civility breaks down. Yeah that kind of situation. What you're saying is the
true monster is us. What the... you just what the... holy what? I was not thinking that. I
don't think so. Like there's probably like a monster with like claws and I
Yeah, yeah, like a like a like a wear pyre. Yeah, I don't like a Frankenwald
I mean really the film is just about a bunch of monsters killing people. Yeah, like mommy Kong
Like a drag drag like a drag you Stein like a drag again. That's a drag to the dragon. Wow. Like a
drag your Sores. You know, you know, that common monster, you know, like a hunchbackzilla.
One of those like that's the real monster. Yeah. True. Yeah, anywhere. You know, like a like a ghost mobile. You know, like a like a like a murder
burger, you know, does a monster for you. You know, the
I'll recommend just to confuse people a different movie called
black cat than the one that I'm screening. I do recommend the black cat with both call off and bellagosi, which I'll be screening next.
I'll be screening this coming week Wednesday October 6th, double plug.
But there's re-plugged.
But there's a Japanese movie called Kuneko or black cat.
What does that mean in English?
Roughly black cat.
It has a longer Japanese title, but it's known as Kineco here.
Okay.
And it's about...
It's Konomii.
I feel like I may have recommended before, but I don't think so.
But it's about this woman and her mother-in-law, the one man in the family, goes off to war in feudal Japan.
So it's just his wife and his mother left in this house.
They are killed by samurai, and they come back as cat demon ghosts that seduce samurai
and then murder them.
And meanwhile, the son is the last surviving member of this battle that he was in.
There's a sequence where he kills a giant basically that's really great.
And so the Dimeo, the Warlord, sends him to stop this cat, this thing that's killing other
samurai's.
Him not knowing that it's his reincarnation of his wife and mother, getting their revenge
as cat demons.
And like cat demon stories are not uncommon in Japan,
but they're kind, but they sound really weird when you talk about them in America.
No, I mean, they sound totally normal.
But it's directed, it's by the same director as the movie Onibaba, which is a little bit better known.
And it's this very, very atmospheric, very cool, like neat, suspenseful, weird, ghost story movie. And it's actually playing for a week
this month at Film Forum. This is a movie I wanted to show in my screening series, but
we couldn't get a print of it. And the Film Forum is advertising this as the New York
debut of this movie, which came out in 1968. So I wonder if it's actually never been shown
in theaters in New York before. So as much as I hate to promote another wonder if it's actually never been shown in theaters in New York before so as much as I hate to promote another
theater
It's worth going to see it
If you go to a New York screening of the black cat you can't go wrong what I'm saying is either there are two movies called the black cat
They're playing New York both. They're both awesome. Go to the one. I'm showing and then go to, if you see only one black cat movie in New York this month.
Don't see mine.
No, see mine.
Oh, yeah, see yours.
See mine with Boris Kalloff and Belagosi.
But then later,
What do you see too?
That's not a bad decision.
If you see too.
Later in the month, go see Kuneco at FilmForm.
Because it's real, and if you miss the FilmForm,
sometimes they show it on IFC, which is where I saw it,
on television.
And if you see none, go fuck yourself.
If you don't see any movies called Black Cat I don't even want to know you.
Like what are you doing? What are you doing with your life?
Look in the mirror and ask yourself some questions.
I've been plugging this and plugging this all night and if you don't see it.
And now you're not going to see it?
You shut up. Okay fine. Yeah.
I never liked you. I mean I'm not going to see it for shut up okay fine yeah i i never liked you
i mean i'm not that far that's all that's that's a but uh... but it is it
but is a very cool atmosphere
okay
well guys i think this has been a delightful uh... return
thanks for uh... for the invitation to uh... thank you for coming in
joining us
uh... for the flop house i've been dan McCoy oh Oh, I, I can go next. I usually go last
for this. I didn't, sorry. I am and will continue being and enjoyed being here. Federico
Hatton. And in this corner, the monastic smaller, the man from the east, the devil may care, the devil's words, the
devil's rata, the ugly truth, the man that planned the canal palma.
Ellie Caelin.
Goodnight everyone.
Goodnight. Okay.
Said as if you are a teacher about to start class. two
I thought you were in a car No, no, that was a Johnny
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