The Frank Skinner Show - A Shabby Year
Episode Date: January 6, 2024Frank Skinner's on Absolute Radio every Saturday morning and you can enjoy the show's podcast right here. The Radio Academy Award winning gang bring you a show which is like joining your mates for a c...offee... So, put the kettle on, sit down and enjoy UK commercial radio's most popular podcast. It’s the first show of 2024! Frank reveals his Christmas present haul and Buzz has landed him a blow. The team also discuss Zombie Takis, Elvis Evolution and lemon curd.
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This is Frank Skinner. This is Absolute Radio.
Happy New Year, guys.
Happy New Year.
2024. Have you written 2023 yet, when you're meant to write 2024?
Not yet.
No, okay.
It's coming.
I think now it's probably gone now. You've missed your window.
Do you think?
Yeah, if you haven't done it by January. When is it today?
January the 6th.
Fair on, though.
That's very much his area.
13th night.
Yeah, 13th night.
If you haven't done it by 13th night,
you're probably into 24 now.
What do you think about when you see the...
Were you into 24, by the way?
The series?
Oh, no.
Somebody bought me the box set.
It's for the likes of me, Frank.
Somebody gave me that box set, and they bought it for me and said
honestly
this will blow your mind
change your life
I hate it when they say that
so I watched one episode
and I thought
I didn't think
oh no
you didn't think maybe I'll join the CIA
no I didn't think that that, no, I thought... You didn't think, maybe I'll join the CIA. No, I didn't think that.
That was Kiefer, of course.
Yes.
Oh, was it? Oh, yeah, OK.
What happened to him?
I don't know. You don't see him so much these days, Kiefer.
But you don't see me that much.
You know, I don't want to poke the finger at anyone.
Do you think his family call him R. Kiefer?
I hope so.
I thought for so long
his name was
Kiefer O. Sutherland.
Oh.
Because Americans
run their names together
so much.
Kiefer O. Sutherland.
Yeah.
I thought,
oh, he's Irish.
Yeah.
Kiefer.
Anyway,
if you're listening,
Kiefer.
Here's the thing.
It was my start
to the year.
Alan Carr
came on the telly
and my son said,
I really like Alan Carr.
I think he's funnier than you are.
Are you joking?
He did not say that.
I thought, you know what,
I knew the barbed remarks from child to parent would come.
I didn't think they'd come this
soon or through this or indeed this bar i i was i don't i don't know i didn't know what to do with
myself wow right so uh and it wasn't done in a you know a comedy teasing way it was in a really
thought it was about time it's about time we got this out in the open kind of a way.
It was a casual cruelty.
Oh, man.
What did you say?
What could you say?
I couldn't.
I couldn't argue back, could I?
It's not like
when I saw former
England player Alan Mullery
having an argument with Rodney Marsh
to old players and they disagreed about some football Former England player Alan Mullery having an argument with Rodney Marsh,
two old players, and they disagreed about some football thing.
And Alan Mullery said, come on, get your medals out on the table.
We'll see who knows the most about football.
I'd love to see that in a political debate program.
No, so I just had to take it on the chin, but inside.
You didn't take the approach of if you catch your kids smoking,
you make them smoke a whole pack and say,
well, then we're going to watch everything Alan Carr's ever done.
See how much you like him after that.
I'd be alright with that, apart from the wee element.
Now, look,
I like Alan Carr. Obviously, he's a funny man.
But is he funnier than me? I don't think so. 8, 12, 15. No. Oh, no, Alan Carr obviously is a funny man, but is he funnier than me?
I don't think so.
8, 12, 15.
No.
Oh, no, no, no.
I can't take the other side.
I think if you had a national vote, he'd win, let's face it.
But, you know, it's fine.
We can exist on the same planet.
But knowing that my child is thinking,
imagine if Alan Carr was my... That's a huge concession you're making. We can exist on the same planet. But knowing that my child is thinking, imagine if Alan Carlsson...
That's a huge concession you're making.
We can exist on the same planet.
Yeah.
But, oh, man.
Frank, you're always the funniest to us.
Yes.
Oh, no, that's made it worse.
I've got a feeling this link's been about 12 and a half minutes.
The producer's doing a nail.
He's got that kind of feeling to it.
How soon into the new year did this happen?
Have you timed?
What's your timing on that first leak?
My timing?
Yeah.
I presume you run a clock of your own onto the table.
Alex Ferguson style.
It's just in the back of my own mind.
I always think Pierre has got his own control levers.
The operation. He wouldn't just let this drift, Pierre.
Man, he needs one hand on the button at all times.
That's what I've heard.
Bernard, get out of here.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
Can I ask you a question?
Sure.
I don't know quite how I describe this,
but I'm fairly confident, as ever, in my descriptive powers.
You know when you have a laugh
and you have a laugh which seems to come from another universe?
They're very, very rare, which is probably just as well,
because they seem to be
quite an attack on your body's main systems and you laugh so much noises come out of you've never
heard before you get a bit light-headed because you're not breathing properly it's like when
you're listening or watching alan carr is it that? Not anymore.
The sounds are coming out of me.
Anyway, if anyone's just tuned in,
they'll think,
well, my son has announced that Alan Carr is funnier than me.
It's official.
Anyway, do you know those ones?
And you're just sort of going,
ah, ah.
And I haven't had one of those
for, I think, 20 years.
Untaken?
Yeah.
No, but do you know what it means?
I was uncontrolled once.
It's rare.
It's a sort of childlike laughter, isn't it?
But it's beyond.
Actually, you start to think,
I actually feel ill now.
I feel a bit lightheaded,
but I can't stop.
The laugh is tight. The laugh has taken...
The closest I've been was
this New Year's Eve.
Kath went to bed.
She
is not interested in the whole New Year's Eve
fireworks thing or any of that, so she went to bed
about nine.
And me and Boz stopped up.
I love her.
And me and Boz laughed. Not at love her. Me and Boz laughed.
Not at that level.
I'm still waiting for my next one of those.
I don't know if I'd get through it now at my age.
One of those laughs.
But we watched Jules Holland's Hootenanny.
Oh.
God bless Jules Holland.
He's obviously a talented man.
Boogie Woogie Piano?
If somebody gave me a list of highly prized talents I wouldn't want,
Boogie Woogie Piano would be up there.
Right up there with baking.
But we just laughed.
We just laughed at the Jules Harland Orchestra.
What?
I don't know.
It just seemed like the funniest thing.
Jules sits on like an oil drum with paint stains on it
and goes, dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee.
And we, I don't know, we just, we laughed.
I think that's why that level of laugh is so rare
because it's impossible to plan what's going to do it.
We didn't reach that level, but it's a close,
it reminded me of those kind of control laughs,
because I didn't know what we were laughing at.
I think that's the secret of it.
I didn't, and then Rod Stewart got up to sing with them,
and Buzz completely lost it.
It's just completely,
because Rod Shewt wasn't doing his hits,
he was doing things like
nowhere to, no one to talk to,
like an old American songbook type thing,
which is always hilarious.
Yeah.
Oh man, I'm just saying,
I know there was a lot of comedy on,
but nothing touched the hootenanny.
Do you think when you're a comedian, you get so used to thinking through jokes
or understanding them when you're watching them as a person who does them as well,
that I find that the stuff that gets around that mental block
and creates that big laugh tends to be either something unexpected like that
or very simple absurdity or someone falling down or an animal doing something
weird well my partner kath almost never laughs at any of my jokes at all i mean she's just a fact
it's not true no it is true it really is true it's very humbling which is a good thing everyone
in shelby should have some sort of humbling assistant. But one thing she has always laughed at is people falling over and stuff like that.
We were once in Venice, sitting on the floor by St. Mark's Square,
and I'd been bitten by a mosquito and had a big lump on my head,
sort of Looney Tunes style.
And we were sitting talking and another mosquito landed on that lump
and bit, you know, whatever they do, bit the lump, stung the lump.
And Kath, I thought Kath was going to die.
She laughs out.
She literally lay on the dirty floor.
She's a bit of a hygiene person.
She literally lay on the dirty tile floor and laughed.
She laughed so much I think
she had to lie on something that was non-porous.
So here's
my Christmas presents if you're
interested.
Oh lovely. Walking socks.
Very nice. I know all socks could lay a claim to that
title but Nance for some reason he's walking when it's applied to socks you
think in long distances and rough terrain have they got a little white
fleck in them I always associate the active wear sock with a little white
fleck. Well, they come in many varieties
and they used to be all look like
that, but now I've had black
walking socks. They ought to be called hiking
socks, really, to properly distinguish
them. Goths go on a walk, I love that.
I'm sure, I've never
seen a goth on a
trek. No, they don't trek
really, do they? I've seen them... What outerwear do they have? I've seen them sitting inh on a trek. No, they don't trek, really, do they?
What outerwear do they have?
I've seen them sitting in the cemeteries of villages and small towns drinking cider.
In fairness, some of the longer leather jackets,
the black trench coats made of leather, that's pretty all-terrain.
They're not practical for the hiking.
No.
Anyway, walking socks I had. And then I had lemon curd.
A jar of lemon curd.
Was it in the socks?
No, that was from a separate gifter.
It's never really caught on, has it, the curd?
No.
You know when the jam, you can get more or less every fruit?
Oh, I see what you mean.
How many curds do you come...
I've seen lime curd,
but that's because lime is always used as sort of lemons.
It's like Danny Minogue to the lemons, Kylie Minogue.
It always gets in on the act, doesn't it?
Yeah, but it's like, you know,
it's the second phone call, isn't it yeah but it just it's like you know it's the second phone call isn't it lime
lemons working in uh you know i don't know um yeah pellegrino project so we're gonna have lime
i can't think of any other curds i've seen no do you get strawberry curd? If you do, it doesn't happen in our house.
So lemon curd.
Then I add some licorice.
All sorts?
No.
I sort of take no prisoners licorice.
Licorice that's not accompanied by anything to make it be less licorice.
Oh, is it pure as dad licorice?
Licorice that comes in like a like a spool
do you know that stuff oh yes like a vertigo record label but without the white yeah yeah
and it's just like it's a wheel of licorice how big is this wheel oh i'd say diameter yes yes
i'm gonna go imperial okay Okay. If I may.
I'd say it's three and a half inches.
That's a lot of licorice.
Oh, man.
Okay.
It's like eating a biscuit, you know.
But I suppose the jewel in the crown was I got a tin of driving sweets.
Like walking socks on driving sweets.
Exactly.
And they make about as much sense.
Did they have the bed of icing sugar?
Well, when I opened them in the car,
there was a spray of icing sugar went all over my jeans.
I thought, if the police stop me now,
in my line of work,
who's going to believe that that's icing sugar?
But yeah, they're in my car now in the circular tin
i finally done it and got the drive-in sweet and that was that was the full extent of my
christmas presents what flavor of driving don't try and make me feel better
so hang on you got the let let's just go through this. You've got lemon curd. Lemon curd. Driving sweets.
Licorice.
Yeah, and...
And socks.
And the socks, yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
OK.
A Willy Wonka staycation set.
Yeah.
It's one of those...
You know when you put your presents in a little pile?
Yeah.
You wanted to put them all into the sock for carrying.
Usually you want one big annual that you can use as a base
and carry your other presents on like a tray.
But I didn't get anything that big.
Oh, okay.
So that was it.
And what I'm saying, it was a shabby year on the gift side.
Frank, oh my God.
There's no other way of selling that.
I can't talk that up.
Oh, my God, Frank.
That bundle.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
Frank, Georgina has got in touch with us.
What?
George Foreman's daughter.
Oh, yes.
All of his, fortunately.
All the boys are called George and the girls are called Georgina,. Oh, yes. All of his, fortunately. All the boys are called George
and the girls are called Georgina, Georgette, etc.
Oh, lovely.
Georgina has got in touch.
He told me, George Foreman,
that he gets a dollar a grill.
Wow.
How many do you think he sold?
Millions.
He must have done.
The fat drains right out of the meat
and down into the tray under the grill.
I've got that tattooed on my mind
from how often that advert was on cable.
Everyone sold, he gets a dollar, yeah.
And Snoop Dogg told me he gets a dollar a grill.
It turned out to be a typo.
So anyway.
I don't know why, but that reminds me of that thing your manager sent you.
Three lines.
Remember when you were in the hotel and you got a big bunch of flowers from him?
What did it say?
Three lines had just come out.
I was in, I think I was in San Francisco and I checked into my hotel
and there was a big bunch of flowers
which I thought at first the hotel had given me
and then I realised there was a card with it.
And when I looked at the card, it was from my manager
and it said straight in at number one, 56,000 units sold.
The least romantic.
56,000 units
units
units of music
yeah exactly
half a kilogram of music please
who has ever written
units in a car
it was number one
it was the most exciting thing
reduced
so anyway
Georgina has got in touch
to say
proper curd,
an answer to your curd question, Frank,
proper curd is formed using
the acidity from citrus
fruits and that's why
it's those flavours only.
What about the orange?
Yeah, I've never
seen orange curd.
But it must be possible.
It's like jam.
Yes, it is.
With fog.
A jam with fog.
Yeah, that's what it is.
That's what it is.
It's like if you used a jar of jam as the setting for a Jack the Ripper movie,
it would look like curd.
Here's a question, Frank.
I do not, can I say though,
I mean, it was chosen
because I am a big lemon curd enthusiast.
I'm interested in your consumption of curd.
For this reason, I struggle with curd.
Can I tell you why?
I can't put it straight onto bread.
Do you have with butter or without?
Well, here's my thing.
I find it a bit of a, you know when you've got to get the marge out
and then put it back and get the bread?
Oh, I find with jam, if you put jam on bread,
it's like, what's going on?
I've got no, there's no under sheet.
You're asking me to sleep on the raw mattress
with its terrible quilting buttons sticking in me
and its label.
Why do they have the label on it?
Yeah.
They're understriped.
They're horrible buttons.
Why do they have buttons on it?
Yeah.
Anyway, and there's a wee stain.
If I bought...
Fine.
If you buy a new mattress, there's a wee stain.
They make them at the factory like that.
Anyway, that's what jam's like.
But curd, because curd is a bit buttery in its texture,
I find you don't need anything underneath it.
It comes with a fitted sheet.
It's like it's in a sleeping bag.
You can lie straight on the mattress bag. You go naked curd.
So that's time saved and margarine saved.
What's saving margarine?
It's essentially a money spinner.
Lemon curd for me.
Frank Skinner.
Absolute Radio.
Frank, we have had
I would say it's a number of people
would you agree
getting in touch
regarding your favourite snack
oh yes
Martin Gardner for example
he begins
Tacky's New Year All
ok I think that might be for example, he begins, Takis New Year All.
Okay.
I think that might be work. We should say, if you're new to the show,
which I don't think anyone's been since about 2021.
Do you not get new people anymore?
I don't think so.
We're struggling to hold on to the old lot.
Don't say that.
No, no, I'm joking.
Don't say that.
No, no, I'm joking.
Yes, I am often halfway through the morning. In fact, Jenny is due to go out onto the streets.
It's only we haven't told her yet.
I eat Takis, which is a very, very hot snack.
And like I say, I'm low to say, because I'm
not trying to sell Takis to
anyone. I don't get free Takis.
And the other people on the team
generally don't like it.
You remember?
And poor Emily had one
and then robbed her eye
and was blind for three days.
And
just to prove that we're not receiving any money from Takis,
the only strap line I can give them is I utterly despise them.
Okay.
Okay?
Takis and curd?
Do you despise them?
Oh, I despise them.
Anyway, what's...
Takis' new year, or just wondering,
imagine if that caught on.
I don't think it will.
Everyone starts saying it to each other.
Hey, Tacky's New Year.
Just wondering whether Frank has been able to get his hands
on the limited edition zombie tackies.
The flavour, you ask?
Habanero.
I never know how to say that.
Habanero.
You have to say all those words. Habanero. Habanero. How do you say it? Habanero I never know how to say that no habanero you have to say all those words
habanero
habanero
how do you say it?
habanero
Frank?
I say habanero
I have to
I have to imagine myself
with crossed bandoleros
yeah
habanero
yeah
and cucumber
yes
habanero and cucumber
in the famous words
of crash test dummies
do you know what the famous words are
i don't i didn't either but apparently it's oh okay okay so was that when the real crash test
dummies were tied in a like a room at the back and there was some bogus ones who had taken their
place and the real crash test test crash dummies were had like plasters over their mouths,
and we go, mm, mm.
Anyway.
Frank.
I have tried new Nimitib edition.
When did you get those?
Well, Baz had one in his advent calendar.
What sort of an advent calendar was that?
Well, my partner constructs an advent calendar
and it has a tiny note in it every day
that says things like
look under the dog's bed
and when he looks under the dog's bed
there's like for one day
there was some stamps
I can't remember what country it was
but they had Kiss on them, the band
but sometimes they're things like a bottle of
Prime or um a packet of Takis so one of them was the Zombie limited edition I'll tell you what's
the pro I'm not familiar with hammer here um I don't really know what it is I presume it's a
hot thing it's one of God's hot things it certainly is yeah yeah but I love it when you describe me like that. You could really taste the cucumber as well.
I don't know how they've done that.
I thought the cucumber would be lost in the.
Yes.
But like a bit like Gabrielle.
But Frank, why would anyone want the cucumber to dominate?
I mean, let's be honest.
I didn't say dominate it.
I said it got a looking.
You said you can really taste it.
Well, I thought it would be lost in a hell.
But it wasn't.
Are these supposed to be, that's what a zombie tastes like?
No, that's what zombies like.
These are what zombies enjoy.
I've always wanted to know what a zombie tastes like.
You must have seen,
you know those things
that, those things in
zombie films that you
see and you think,
hold on a minute,
turns out they're
actually cucumbers.
Don't panic.
Don't panic, folks.
I don't like the
packaging.
What a day!
What a day!
Remember that,
Ken Dodd.
What a day for shoving a cucumber through the vicar's letterbox
and shouting, the Martians have landed.
One of the great jokes of all time.
Yes, I tried them and I liked them,
but for me, I'm still very loyal to Fuego, the original ones.
The packet, Frank, has a wizened old green hand on the front.
Oh, does it?
God, I thought it was mirrored.
This is Frank Skinner.
This is Absolute Radio.
Frank, we've had a lot of curd correspondence.
Oh, OK.
Because you've been talking about your,
I'm going to go there, passion for lemon curd.
It's specifically lemon, we should say, isn't it?
Yes.
None of the other curds.
Well, I said there aren't many.
That's just it.
Well, little do you know.
Oh, are there other curds?
Oh, yes, my friend.
Oh, no, there's going to be stuff like, I don't know what the citruses are.
Well, 630 gets in touch and says,
Hi, Frank, Emily and Pierre. Just thought you should be informed of the full range of options regarding curd. Okay. I don't know what the citruses are. Well, 630 gets in touch and says,
Hi, Frank, Emily and Pierre.
Just thought you should be informed of the full range of options regarding curd.
Okay.
I had passion fruit curd from an English heritage shop.
It was delicious.
They also seem to do toffee apple curd, ginger curd,
and elderflower and rose from Laura.
Hold on.
I thought we were told it had to be citrus.
It's a new world.
It's 2024, Frank. The rules for curd have changed.
I can't believe anyone nowadays.
I'd like to say...
Only citrus, I was told, by Georgina.
Georgina, I have questions.
I'm afraid you're going to have to...
It's the countdown moment
when you pass me a bit of paper with your maths working out
to check you haven't just copied my answer.
Oh, I hate it, that, Frank.
What about when they go, I did that as well?
I never believe it.
Yeah, that's what I've got.
And also, what I would love someone to do on there
is the person who's come up with the answer,
when they say, yeah, I got the same,
and they show them the bit of paper,
they sort of go, oh, yeah, this is embarrassing.
I would say, take the paper and say,
well, let's go through this and get a pen.
Get a pen and just go through it line by line.
Here's the thing. I know a man
who would do that. Yeah.
Pierre.
Now, what about this?
Thomas from Aberystwyth.
Dear Frank, could your partner make
you an advent calendar for Christmas
24 featuring lemon
curd? But it would be every day i don't know
what was coming ah bear with okay admittedly it'll be the same treat each day but no different to a
chocolate one with the same daily treat just a thought from a fellow lemon curd connoisseur
well that's a good point that people don't moan about chocolate every day. I think Thomas has got a point.
Can I tell you something, by the way?
Someone said, I had a cup of coffee at someone's house the other day.
What a lovely story.
I know.
Patsy.
Some people tell stories like that.
Yes, they do.
Do you know what I mean?
I had a coffee.
Oh, lovely.
And they said to me, hold on a minute.
I thought you, your auntie, you always moaned about coffee had a coffee. Oh, lovely. And they said to me, hold on a minute, I thought you,
your auntie,
you always moaned about coffee
and said you didn't like it.
I said, well, I didn't like it.
But then it turns out,
I said, I've been having coffee every week
on the radio show
and now I'm sort of a bit more open to it.
And they said, what have you been having?
I said, chai latte.
Oh, fancy.
And they said,
that's tea.
I said, no, it's like chai latte. Oh, fancy. And they said, that's tea. I said, no, it's like chai latte.
And they said, no, that's tea.
So I have a bit of it.
Oh, what a fall I felt.
You were tricked.
And then I remembered,
there was an Indian Uber driver
said to me,
did you see that shop?
Did you see that shop?
They were advertising chai tea.
And I said, no.
I thought, what does he mean?
Does he want it to stop and get some?
He said, chai means tea.
Yeah.
I said, okay.
It's not QI, it's Uber.
Anyway, sorry. Here's's Uber. Anyway, sorry.
Here's a question as well.
Sorry.
I wanted to tell you about my hall.
Okay, yeah.
But we all get there.
Can I ask you one question?
Sure.
Say Rod Stewart is up now and pottering about the house.
I'm obsessed with Rod Stewart.
Yeah, and he has a shower.
Yeah.
You know we all sing.
Do you sing in the shower, guys?
Yeah, always. So I tend sing, do you sing in the shower, guys? Yeah, always.
So I tend to sing
Roy Orbison in the shower
because I take advantage
of the echo.
Yeah.
You've got to have
one song.
So Rod Stewart,
when he's in,
is he singing,
and now the end is near?
Or when he's in the shower, is he, and now the end is near Or when he's in the show, is he?
And now the end is near And then when he goes on stage, he goes
Okay, I'm ready
He has some tackies right before he goes on stage
Is that his voice or is that his stage voice?
He's got to be stuck in it by now
Do you remember I did the raw variety
and he phoned up on the morning and said
he couldn't do it because he hadn't got a sore throat.
And what he'd actually said was he couldn't do it
because he did have a sore throat.
And you see what I did, I switched it around for comedy purposes,
but I'm not convinced that him or the guy from Stereophonics,
actually, that's their natural singing voice.
If anyone's got any insights,
8-12-15.
If anyone's got any side
lights, 8-12-15.
I think that's
about it.
Occasionally plug things on the show um emily dean does a podcast called walking the dog if
you've heard of it she uh it's quite big uh and she goes on a walk with a celebrity and their dog
yes and this week over to emily Guess who I went on a walk with?
Too long.
Too long, yeah.
Alan Cutler, no.
Frank Skinner, MBE, and his dog, Frank.
Yes, Poppy.
The dog's not called Frank, by the way.
Frank Jr.
Imagine if you'd have called the dog Frank Jr.
Yeah, that would have... It's a lady.
That's the problem.
It's one of my favourite ever interviews.
I'm not just saying that.
He was fabulous.
So...
And the dog actually speaks on it.
Well, she barks, Vance.
Yeah, I wouldn't say speaks.
We finally hear the dog's side of things.
Exactly.
And at one point, someone comes over,
just a quick spoiler alert, and compliments Ray,
and Vance says,
No one ever says that to my dog.
No.
Whenever I've been out with Emily and her dog, which is a Shih Tzu,
it's a bit like when you push a pram, you know,
and people go, oh, what a lovely baby.
They all gather around the Shih Tzu.
But my mongrel
Yeah.
Didn't get a look in.
Well, I look forward to hearing
what she has to say about that on the podcast.
Okay. Because you don't get me to the
grummer enough. Things like that.
It's a dog voice.
No, I think she's half poodle, so
it would be, I don't think we are
looking after my periods.
Although the other half
the other half is
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.
What would that character be like?
That would be
These scoundrels
cannot run a country
which are going horseback to hell.
You're describing my ideal couple.
Exactly.
Anyway, Frank's fabulous on it so I would love you to listen.
You are.
Frank, I'm quite keen to know what Pierre got,
because I'm a magic for Christmas.
Oh, don't bring up his high levels.
He'll be on all day.
Oh, come on.
It's going to be, what are you predicting?
Do you think they get,
he gets a South African,
a sort of a jerky
in the stocking?
Do you think Pierre knows,
by the way?
What?
I was just talking off air
that you meet some people
who are very good looking.
Beautiful ladies and men.
I was talking about,
I met Reggie.
Is he called Reggie?
Oh, no, Archie Medici.
Archie, of course.
Who's from Saltburn.
Archie from Saltburn.
The star.
And he struck me as every good-looking person
knows they're good-looking.
We all know that.
But if we just pretend a little bit,
you occasionally meet ones that don't seem to know
they're good-looking.
Yes.
And they're very nice, those,
because you think, oh, you're nice to be with
and nice to look at.
Do you think Pierre knows, Emily?
That he's good looking?
No.
Oh.
I'm a big nerd.
I don't think he does.
No, I don't.
And I think that's part of the charm.
Don't worry.
He's got the Medique charm.
Medique?
He does.
Look at him.
Smug as a bog.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
I want to know, we got onto the subject of Pierre's Gifts,
because I'm thinking there would have been some jerky in the stocking.
Oh, Pierre's Gifts will be here all day.
Oh, you mean his Christmas gifts?
Go on, then.
Do they theme it, the parents?
I would say my gifts were painfully on brand.
OK.
What do you mean?
They were Pierre gifts.
Mainly books.
I wasn't specifically given any biltong or dry vorse on my own,
but needless to say, the family home was stocked.
With biltong.
With meats.
Yeah.
Very meat-heavy Christmas, all dry.
I got a book that I think you would enjoy a great deal, Frank.
Winters in the World, A Journey Through the Anglo-Saxon Year.
Oh, that sounds good.
Yeah, it's a whole year's diary
of all the Anglo-Saxon sort of festivals
and feasts and things
and also like harvest time and things like that.
Yeah.
Oh.
I have a feeling I've read a book like that.
Have you?
Anyway, we shouldn't talk about it in too much depth on Breakfast Radio.
No, no, tell me more about the Anglicans.
It sounds great, tell me more.
Yes.
Nice.
Yeah, a book about cobalt.
A book about cobalt?
Yes.
Is that a supervillain?
The colour.
It would be good.
The Congolese mineral in this case.
You've got a book about a Congolese...
See, I'm quite intolerant and i recognize this
in myself i was talking to a friend of mine and he said i've just um read a book about the forest
about the uh forest fires in alberta i said why have you read that you can't say to someone no i
know you can't but i'm afraid when I remembered that,
I'd already said it.
What do you want to bother reading that for?
Cobalt.
Yes, as a metal.
Can I ask you a question?
Yes.
In order to sell it, what line does it have, cobalt?
Does it have like a dash, the Congolese mineral?
I don't think it does.
Because that's not selling it well.
This time it's mineral.
It's back, and this time itese mineral. I don't think it is. Because that's not selling it well. This time it's mineral. It's back and this time it's mineral.
It's very important.
I'm not saying it isn't.
I'm not dissing cobalt.
Let's make that clear before the...
You better not be.
Before we get ripped apart on social media.
Can you imagine?
Oh no, Frank and Pierre have fallen out.
What did they fall out over?
Cobalt.
The Congolese mineral.
Oh yeah.
You say cobalt
and as their brow fur
is used to clarify
the Congolese mineral.
And they go,
ah, ah,
say no more.
I mean,
it's not exclusively Congolese
but in the context
of this book it is.
obviously not.
No,
that would be mad.
Is it a picture book?
It has pictures.
It's a pop-up.
On the cover.
Yes,
it's a...
When you pull a tab,
when you pull a tab,
the Chinese government comes and builds a mine.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
If you're going to build a mine,
you really want a pop-down book.
I don't know if they exist.
Where the contents get further away.
Exactly.
It borrows into the back cover of the book.
How do they do this?
Are there chapters in the
Cobalt book? Of course there's
chapters. It doesn't sound like the
sort of book it sounds. It's got to be organised.
Yeah. Well, I'm sure it's organised.
Chapter 7, where's that shovel?
I'm just drawing me in
we don't often know
this is the closest
we've ever been
to Richard and Judy's
book club
this week
what is it called
Cobalt
the Congolese mineral
I have to look up the title
because it's not called
Cobalt the Congolese
it is now
rebrand
but that sounds like
if it was on a
variety bill
Cobalt and then underneath it the bill matter.
The Congolese mineral dances for you.
Frank Skinner.
Frank Skinner.
Absolute Radio.
Frank, can I tell you about some gifts I got?
Please.
Because I loved them, Frank.
My two favourite gifts I loved right but well I'll tell
you about them the first thing I loved my my first favorite gift was a welly but not just any welly
a welly as in a wellington boot one no a I'm using it in the fashion sense. A welly, like a jean.
Oh, OK.
A pair of wellies.
I see.
But a cut-off welly, an ankle welly.
Oh, I've seen a few of those around on the ladies. They look cool.
Let's be honest, on the elderly ladies.
No, I've seen them. I think they've bled into the young and fashionable.
Well, what I've realised about them them they're a bit of a game changer
because what's the one thing that puts you off the wellington boot is the removal yes leaning on the radiator lying on the floor sometimes not not so with the ankle welly frank came off so
cleanly so and also it's got a slightly jaunty look which i like i think they actually look cool which well
is generally don't it's got something of the max wall as well i like it oh who's the other one
jiminy is it jimmy cricket yes oh yeah he wore a wellington yeah he's got that flavor so i like
the welly then i got the heated uh alaskan faux fur throw blanket oh what an electric blanket
really i thought they'd gone well so did i frank they're back i'd got so i did feel a bit i mean
even though i was thrilled i did get a pair of wellingtons and a heated blanket did you get a nice bottle of scent?
Cobalt by Lantric.
But I was so thrilled.
Did you not get a bottle of scent?
I did. I absolutely assumed that you'd get not only a bottle of scent,
but one with a squirter ball.
Yes, I did.
The sort of bagpipe fitting you get on.
Oh, I love that thing.
Oh, yeah.
So the Alaskan faux,
I think its full name is
Alaskan Husky Faux Fur Heated Throw.
It's a lot.
It's a mouthful, but it is amazing.
It's got a little remote on it.
A faux throw.
Yeah.
When I went online, though,
and I thought this is so good
and I wanted to check how I used it, and I wanted to keep it safe.
And I thought, this is one of the best gifts I've ever received.
But there were about 150 reviews.
I'm not joking.
Every single one, bar about three, about 148 said,
wonderful for my elderly mother.
Keeps her very warm.
I wear it on.
I get reviews like that.
Frank Skinner.
Frank Skinner.
Absolute Radio.
Absolute Radio.
Frank, you know how we like it asked to us,
do you need any help at all?
I'd prefer you use the correct emphasis.
How do you say Happy New Year?
Happy New Year.
Of course I don't.
No, but there's a thing...
I say Happy New Year.
Down Americans emphasise the new.
Happy New Year.
Yes, they do, yeah.
Oh, that reminds me of depressing rom-coms.
Yeah.
There's always a character saying that, Happy New Year, and someone's crying. Yeah, do, yeah. Oh, that reminds me of depressing rom-coms. Yeah. There's always a character saying,
Happy New Year, and someone's crying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'll all be all right by the end, Frank.
Bring out the old, bring in the new.
Do you remember that?
The George Harrison song.
Oh, is that what he did?
Yeah, it's one of the few New Year's songs.
I think people think...
ABBA did a New Year's song.
Oh, yeah, they did.
But there aren't many, because you don't get the run-up.
That's true.
Perhaps there's a gap in the market for certain holidays
that don't have a commemorative song.
I know, because you've got Christmas just before it.
There's a very tiny window for a New Year song.
Boxing Day song?
Maybe.
Again, that's one day. But if we
nail it, if we all work
hard and release a Boxing Day
song together, that's...
They'll have to play it. It's the only one.
I think there's a song called Cold Turkey
by John Lennon. Well, there we go.
It's been done before.
We can't release a single
after. It's a very odd band.
It's a very odd look, isn't it?
We haven't got a...
Do you know what I mean?
It's Rod, Jane and Fred.
Well, I've said already on social media,
I think we look like we own a reasonably successful
family removals firm.
Do we?
Yeah.
For removing families?
We just look like...
No.
Is this about the world?
A family-run removals firm. I think that's right. for removing families. We just looked and I thought, no, a family run
removal spurt.
I think that's right.
We look,
it looks like
we collect,
our family company
proudly sponsor
the local football
team for
under 18.
Yeah.
Well,
I can imagine us
doing an Edinburgh play.
Yeah,
yeah.
Where you play
the woman I love
but who's worried
about my experiments.
I play Dr. Frankenstein
and Pierre,
well, anyway,
what shall we talk about now?
The Lord gives with one hand.
Is it because I'm wearing
my Bolt necklace today?
I actually thought about
writing an Edinburgh play
where I was Dr. Frankenstein and you were the monster.
A comedy.
Because you don't get enough of them chatting in the book.
Yes, that's right.
But do you know, Frank, that's always my favourite.
For example, is it Davros in Doctor Who?
As I've said to you, where's his interior?
I want to see Mrs. Davros? I want to see Mrs Davros.
I want to see his home life.
You never see the monster's home life.
I would never say never.
The show continues.
I love it.
So do you like the sound of my blanket, Frank?
Oh, yes.
I've been trained by my partner
to have the bedroom like ice.
I'm going to buy you an Alaskan...
I wear more clothes in bed than most young people do on a night out.
I really do.
Do you?
I wear a lot of...
In fact, I stayed at a friend's house this week.
I was frozen in the night.
You don't go robe, do you?
And we know why.
No, I don't go robe.
Why is that, Frank?
Because I don't know when you're supposed to,
why the window is to put it on.
I'm with you on this.
Yeah.
And he doesn't like the belt cutting into his waist.
No, but...
It's a liminal piece of clothing.
What do you put in the pocket of a robe?
I've got all sorts.
Yeah.
In there?
Yeah.
Licorice?
You see horrid tissues.
Yeah. You're not wrong. I'm a handkerchief man. You see horrid tissues. Yeah.
You're not wrong.
I'm a handkerchief man.
Huh?
You know.
You would think in the modern age
when there's all this stuff
about the planet and stuff,
the handkerchief would have made a comeback.
The tissues would have gone.
Not a brief encounter.
A high tea tightie.
Yeah.
I think that it's Othello
to put people off.
That'll be it.
They're just trouble, thank you, cheers.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
Frank?
Yeah?
I want to discuss some rather exciting news with you.
Well, I think it's something you're going to be excited about,
and so does Ruth Jordan,
who's got in touch.
Good old Ruth.
Happy New Year.
Over to my correspondent,
my cobalt correspondent.
Ruth says,
morning and happy New Year
to you all.
How does Frank feel
about 2024 bringing us
Elvis Evolution?
The new Elvis hologram show.
Will Frank be going
and will it be as good as Abba Voyage?
I think you mean Abba Voyage.
Sorry, Abba Voyage.
Abba Voyage.
Look, I started saying Voyage,
and I realised this is all to do with Frank Skinner,
because I never said things like Voyage.
Well, people say...
I bet you've said Bon Voyage, haven't you?
Yeah, but that's because it's Bon Voyage.
That was the Bon Jovi tribute show.
No, I think I'm just going rhythmically.
Abba Voyage sounds better than Abba Voyage.
Abba Voyage is a sudden pulling off.
Well, it's because you've gone Voyage and it's Voyage.
Ah.
Okay.
What if you extend that to Voyage?
Voyage.
Abba Voyage.
Yeah.
No.
For me it's Voyage.
Let's call the whole thing AI.
Have you been to Abba Voyage?
You went with Kath because Kath was obsessed.
I have been.
My partner's been three times.
And taken my child, I think, on all three occasions. And my partner's been three times. And taken my child
I think on all three occasions. And he's
a heavy metal enthusiast.
Okay. But it'd be good practice for when
Kiss Voyage
begins. Are they calling it
Voyage as well? I don't think so. Oh, okay.
I don't think they'll do that.
Yeah, that is, it's good.
It's good because
it looks like Aber on stage from the 70s, which is impressive. You know, it's good. It's good because it looks like ABBA on stage from the 70s,
which is impressive.
You know, it is good, yeah.
Do you know, I know the ABBA thing.
I'm saying the Elvis one.
No, the Elvis one, I'm convinced, will be awful.
Yeah, it's just, oh no, the ABBA I can deal with.
I love Elvis.
I really love, I grew up, he was so important to me.
And I really loved his music, his films.
But he has been indirectly responsible
for more intense naff product than any other artist.
That's not his fault.
Yes.
Now, I could be wrong, and I'd love it if it's great,
but everything I've read about it
it sounds to me it says that they've got access to home movies and personal photos
from the character what's that previously unseen is there i don't want him shooting
i don't want him saying mike storm must die no but i thought it's they've said it sounds like
it's going to be like the abba thing but abba
don't what does it mean personally it makes me think of that projector that my son got from
little yes i think it's going to be a bit like that oh super eight home movies well you know
it's quite a it's quite a kernel idea isn't it we got to make it into a hologram
I'm going to make you into a hologram.
But you see, this is... It was seven shows ahead.
Well, when I was a young lad...
I went to see...
Frank loved that film.
He actually said it was very good.
I love Tom Hanks' The Curse.
It's a canon.
I'm going to make you a little...
See, that was pretty good product, that film.
It bent the...
Oh, it certainly bent a lot of rules.
It bent some of the facts.
It was a good one.
But I read an interview with Werner Herzog.
Yes.
The German filmmaker.
I'm way too obsessed by him.
I love Werner Herzog.
And they asked him about whether the film,
whether it was factual.
Yes.
And he said, if you want facts,
read the Manhattan phone factual. Yes. And he said, if you want facts, read the Manhattan phone directory.
Yes.
And then he told them how many entries there were, didn't he?
And every one of them has been checked and is factually accurate.
All right.
Have you heard his, maybe the best ever use of Happy New Year?
No.
He was at a big, he was doing an interview on stage
with a bunch of other very respected documentarians,
and they were all agreeing how, as a documentary maker,
you must stay back and not interfere.
And he was in the audience and got the microphone and said,
no, you must be like the wasp that stings
and spoke really in favor of interfering and making things happen,
even if you're the documentary maker.
And everyone started booing him.
Wow.
The last thing he said in the mic before he handed it back was,
Happy New Year, losers.
Can I just say, bit of a git, Frank.
I like him.
Well, in this interview, he came over as a bit of a git.
He'd be a nice friend for you.
Yeah, he does seem very difficult.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
So we were discussing the Elvis experience.
Yeah, and I should say I'd have no inside information.
It might be absolutely brilliant, and I'd be happy if it was brilliant.
Has it occurred to you that if it is brilliant,
and if Kiss is brilliant,
then your whole family will have a hologram show each to be obsessed with?
That's true.
Oh, I love that way of looking at it, Peter.
That is true.
Boz could go and see Kiss forever
and I could see Elvis forever
and Kath can see Abba Voyage.
You see, I think maybe I might see
if Kath will take me to that Abba Voyage
because what's concerned me about it, I'm open to it,
what I've been concerned about is that it feels like it's slightly too close to the arena of,
you know my greatest fear, Frank?
What, your greatest fear? Is it chives?
No, that's up there.
Okay.
That's in the arena.
Okay.
It's cartoon characters.
Oh, yes.
Interacting with real people.
Yeah.
And it feels a little bit close to that.
Okay.
That bit when Bert pulls his white trousers down
so he looks more like a penguin to dance with the cartoon.
Lies.
Mm.
And that's why I didn't like cartoons.
Lies.
These are lies.
These are visual lies.
Well, there was a thing called Elvis in Concert,
which was, or Elvis the Concert,
and it was the TCB band and various singers.
I don't know why, but the whole concept of TCB makes me laugh.
Take care of business anyway um why do you why don't why don't they bring
her poo bags with that on yeah anyway um and they were all there all the back you know um jd summer
and the stamps sweet inspirations.
But Elvis obviously wasn't there and Elvis was on a big screen
so they played live and Elvis sang.
But in the middle of the stage there was this gaping space
where Elvis would have been.
And it was upsetting, really upsetting.
Was it a Roger Rabbit upsetting?
In fact, on the opening night thing,
Kat Slater was there from EastEnders and a woman who I think can now be called a friend of this show,
Big Mo.
Oh, yeah.
Kat Slater, Jesse Wallace.
Yeah, Jesse Wallace.
And she...
And who must live in a teepee.
Anyway, she, about half an hour into the thing,
you look across and Jesse Wallace,
he looks like Alice Cooper and mascara has run that much
and she's cried so much at the Elvis thing.
And Big Mo Mo fast asleep
oh it's like
a little pocket
of the soap awards
when I was at Elvis
the concert
I met Glenn D. Harding, who was the piano player.
Hang on, is this the one where Cat Slater was crying and Big Mo fell asleep?
Yes, well, and then I met...
I love that episode of Friends.
I was excited to meet Glenn D. Harding, because he'd been Elvis' piano player for ages.
because he'd been Elvis' piano player for ages.
And I was on about when Elvis does Oh, my love,
when he gets up and does the piano.
And I said, so that was a nice little rest for you.
And he said, yeah, I didn't watch it.
Elvis, just about the worst piano player I ever saw.
Elvis, and as much as I love him,
his other great musical claim to fame is, I think,
and I'd be happy to hear of any other suggestions for this on 8.12.15,
one of the great non-playing guitar players.
Yes.
Of having the guitar round your neck,
but just moving it about a bit and not even being amplified of a stigial guitar what was what
what was the deal with the guitar because i saw him sometimes in uh was it blue hawaii films like
that he'd sort of make a nod towards play did he play it well he played ukulele but i don't think
he did oh he could play guitar um fairly rudimentary i would say but when he has it on stage i think it's more
of a prop i can't think of anyone else who uses a guitar like that but i bet our readers can in
you know i mean the guitar's quite a big thing to have around your neck especially if it's in a big
leather covering with your name engraved on it. It's way down by Rhinestone.
Yeah, exactly.
Sometimes the stars, you know, they decide later,
as we all know in their career,
to start going down the own staff route, don't they?
Madonna is one.
And at that point, they say,
oh, I'm going to start learning the guitar.
And I always think when I see them get it out and stage, I think, I don't want to witness your lessons. No, well, he started... Until you've done your 10,000th. He started with the guitar, i always think when i see them get it out and say just think i don't want to witness your lessons no well he started until you've done your 10 he started with the guitar
to be fair but he wasn't you know he wasn't jimmy hendrix he was um what was he he was the singing
non i don't know if you remember her oh yeah how do you feel about the Elvis-themed bar and restaurant on site?
Well, I'm feeling...
It says there'll be live music,
which means there'll be an Elvis impersonator,
which is something else I've always really struggled with.
And the food.
I really, really love Elvis and his music.
And then as you get further from that centre, that core,
into the seven circles of hell
which include impersonators and
terrible merch,
then, you know, it's not Elvis'
fault, as I say. I was in a terrible
play about Elvis, so, you know,
I'm not innocent. My hands have
blood on them. It wasn't that terrible,
was it? It was pretty terrible.
There must be, the restaurant must serve
that, what was his mad sandwich? Peanut butter and... It was pretty terrible. There must be... The restaurant must serve that... What was his mad sandwich?
Peanut butter and...
It was called Fool's Gold.
Deep fried peanut butter and...
Fool's Gold loaf, he called it.
Fool's Gold.
Sometimes one of his things was vegetable soup sandwiches.
You can't do that, Elvis.
No.
That's what someone should have said at some point.
Anyway, it opens in London.
Go and see.
Do you think they had a hard time choosing the era?
Well, I don't know if they've chosen an era.
I think that's it.
I don't think it's going to be like Voyage.
I think it's just going to be a slideshow.
So they're not going to commit to, say, the TCB era,
Mike Stone Must Die?
No.
Honestly, I think it's going to be somebody with a, you know...
You don't think the hologram gets fatter throughout the show?
What do they call those things like David Baddiel does live?
A projector.
When you press a button.
A projector.
No, what do they call it?
Slideshow.
Oh, thanks for your help.
Audiovisual presentation.
PowerPoint presentation.
PowerPoint, thank you.
He said it.
Okay, well done, you.
Silver star.
Silver? Anyway, it opens in London. Go and see it. Okay, well done you. Silver star. Silver?
Anyway, it opens in London.
Go and see it.
It might be great.
Silver only.
You'd think it would open in America, wouldn't you?
Obviously from the southern states of America.
But you try opening a show in the southern states of America
with the word evolution in the title
and just stand back and watch them come.
Frank Skinner. Absolute Radio. and just stand back and watch them come.
Frank, you were asking earlier if we could think of, or if the readers
could think of any performers who used a guitar
essentially in a sort of...
As a prop.
Yeah.
Well, Joe in Northchapel.
Would you say Joe in Northchapel or Joe in Northchapel?
I don't know where Northchapel is, I'm going to be honest,
but I like the sound of it.
OK.
Joe has got in touch to say,
Morning, Frank, long-time reader, first-time correspondent.
I believe Shaken Stevens was one who had a guitar
as more of a prop in his videos
and on his Top of the Pops performances.
I'm sure you know better than me, though,
as I do not have nearly as many years' experience on this planet
as you, dear Frank.
OK.
Farped.
Happy New Year to you and the team.
Here's the thing.
I saw Shakin' Stevens
in the old times
before he starred
in Elvis the musical
and he was
a proper hardcore
50s rock and roller
he did original songs as well as covers
and it was quite
a dirty kind of an act.
I don't mean in a rudeness kind of way,
but he was down, you know, he loved the music
and it was very real.
And then he played Elvis
and then he didn't stop playing Elvis.
He just carried on playing Elvis for the rest of his career.
Did you see him as Elvis?
I did.
Well, I mean, on top of the pops, he was Elvis forever.
I went to the stage show,
he shunned my programme. Nice.
But
Shakin' Stevens and the Sunsets
was an
authentic
50s rock band, although they
weren't from the 50s, but they clearly
Rockabilly style. Yeah.
Well, they just loved that stuff, but
then he totally became Elvis.
He did.
Took over his brain.
I'm looking forward to the AI shaking Stevens show.
But what do they do?
Green Door.
Is there any other ones?
Yeah.
What's the other ones?
Rocking around the Christmas tree.
There's this old house.
In the middle of the street.
This old house.
Yeah,
they were covers as well.
Green Door, I think,
was Frankie Vaughan.
A man who was in the 50s was enormous
and said that he turned down
Marilyn Monroe.
Oh!
And I met Frankie Vaughan.
I was just starting to get famous.
I've used the F word.
Lovely.
And he met me and he was a really charming,
British showbiz kind of guy.
And as I left, I met him in Jackie Mason's dressing room.
And as I left, he shook my hand and said,
continued success.
Oh, I love that.
I could have kissed him. What a charmer.
Give me the moonlight.
This is
Frank Skinner. This is
Absolute Radio.
By the way,
Pierre Novelli
and I will be at
well, we'll be
at the Gielgud Theatre
in the first two weeks of February.
Selling M&M's.
I can't wait.
But we're also doing a national tour.
Yeah.
So we'll be everywhere.
So check us out.
Gielgud, is it 5th or 17th?
5th of Feb.
I'm coming along.
I'm booking tickets.
Nice.
Well, you say that.
Will you let me come and see you afterwards?
I think you dash off, don't you?
No, if you're in the building.
I always...
Don't buy tickets, darling.
Okay.
And then we're going on a road trip
with maybe some more Anglo-Saxon cemeteries.
Oh, yeah.
And so forth.
Because it's very rock and roll.
For a minute, it sounded really rock and roll, and then you mentioned the Anglo-Saxon cemeteries. Oh, yeah. And so forth. Because it's very rock and roll. For a minute, it sounded really rock and roll,
and then you mentioned the Anglo-Saxon cemeteries.
Yeah, we might have.
I've really got into the English Civil War.
We may have written touch on some of that.
What about, Frank?
I think Pierre, you know what he's going to try and get you onto?
What?
The Congolese.
The Congolese minerals.
Here's a question.
Harder to go on a tour there, though.
I've just read the last
five books I've read have all
been about the English Civil War
five consecutive
the last one I read
and they've all been excellent
was a book called Restless Republic
and
it's written
it's a serious book
yeah and it's about the it's a serious book, yeah?
And it's about the period when there was no king in England,
when Cromwell was run a protectorate. Was that interregnum?
Yeah, so it was the Republic, the British Republic, the English Republic.
But it's a serious academic book and brilliant.
I'd recommend if anyone's interested.
But it's written by a woman called...
Oh, dear.
What?
No, no, I'm finished.
That was the France Skinner show on Absolute Radio.
I haven't finished yet.
Frank will be back next week.
I haven't finished.
That is at the end of the sentence.
Imagine if the producer edited it there on the podcast.
It's written by a woman called Anna Key.
No.
And where does she live, Frank?
In the UK.
I didn't know.
I said to a friend, I've just read five books in consecutive
and they've all been good.
Did David say show off?
No, it wasn't.
And they said, oh, what were they?
And I said, oh, well, there's Houghton's book
on Cromwell.
And then I said, and
The Restless Republic. And he said,
oh, yeah, by Anna Key.
And I hadn't,
I'd missed a pun.
But it can't be
a pun because she's a real serious historian.
You could have had such a nice little who's on first exchange.
Restless Republic, Anarchy, it was, yes.
But, yeah, what do you make of it?
I think, well, it's normative determinism, isn't it?
Yeah.
I suppose if you're a kid called Anarchy,
someone's going to start talking to you
about the concept of anarchy quite early on,
much earlier than any other child.
Well, I...
You'll develop an interest.
I worked with a guy called Niven Smith,
and I said to him, he was about 20,
and I said, were you named after David Niven?
And he said, who's that?
What?
And I thought, somebody would have mentioned Niven.
Anyway.
And in case you're thinking, this was a long time ago,
but it's not just because he's, you know,
young and a young excuse for everything.
And listen, Sarah Champion.
Sorry, were you saying something?
No, I want to keep the last line of the show
as young excuse for everything.
Anyway, Sarah Champion is up next.
She'll like that segue.
And, oh, guess what?
This Wednesday, Series 9 of Frank Skinner's Poetry Podcast starts.
The first episode will be...
TS Eliot.
Not as hard as you think.
My fave.
It's actually one of his more accessible poems,
The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock.
Let us go then, you and I, etc.
Download it from wherever you get your podcasts.
Thanks for doing that in anticipation.
Thanks for listening this morning.
And if the good Lord spares us and the creeks don't rise,
we'll be back again this time next week.
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