The Frank Skinner Show - Leather Versace Dungarees
Episode Date: May 29, 2021Frank Skinner's on Absolute Radio every Saturday morning and you can enjoy the show's podcast right here. Radio Academy Award winning Frank, Emily and Alun bring you a show which is like joining your ...mates for a coffee... So, put the kettle on, sit down and enjoy UK commercial radio's most popular podcast. This week Frank has been to the cinema and has received some interesting customer service. The team also discuss Eurovision, friendly neighbours and why Frank missed out on a freebie.
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Morning all.
We were just talking about
if Annie the Musical had been set in the private sector,
it might have been different.
Can I do the song?
Go on, Em.
Go on.
It's a hard knock life for us.
It's a hard knock life for us.
No, it's for them.
For them.
Oh.
Oh, dear.
Oh, my goodness.
I love Annie. It is the greatest of the musical Oh, my goodness. I love Anne.
It is the greatest of the musicals, I think.
There aren't many dramas, anything,
that have a really passionate, sympathetic representation
of a multi-millionaire.
And that's what I like about it.
This is the kind of stuff we talk about before we go on air.
Yeah, on that stomp, yeah.
Start with the hard-hitting stuff today.
What would Annie be like in the private sector?
On that...
8, 12, 15.
Easy street we live in.
It's, um...
Yes, I've been...
I'll tell you what's happened to me.
I know we're not supposed to plug other radio stations,
but in my car I've started listening to Magic at the Musicals.
Have you heard that?
Have you?
Wow.
Oh, man, it's very fine indeed.
That's quite neat.
When you're a jet, as I drove in this morning,
I was chewing gum that I didn't even have in my mouth
as I listened to it.
Anyway, enough of this.
I want to run something by you guys.
Morning, Alan and Emily, obviously.
Morning.
I want to ask you because I feel you two dwell more in the real world than I do.
Wow.
Keeping it real.
Especially during the lockdown era, I have taken to using Amazon quite a lot.
Now I know there are, I don't know what the, people have got problems with, well every major company is evil apparently.
But anyway, I just like the cardboard around the house.
Yeah. Anyway, here's the thing. It was my son's birthday last Sunday.
He was nine, and I bought him an Iron Man outfit.
You've got to have one.
Okay.
And when we took it out, I'd gone for the nicer of the three available.
I'll be straight with you.
I wasn't going to skimp on the Iron Man.
Good luck, you've worked for it.
Yeah, and you know, I took the Tony Stark approach,
go for the best.
So we got it out the bag,
and he was running around the house in it,
but he was holding his hand to his chin,
like thoughtful Iron Man, considering something.
I said, why are you doing that?
And he said, there's no elastic on the mask.
I said, well, that's no good at these prices.
So I, open brackets, meaning my PA, close brackets,
phoned or emailed Amazon.
I was going to say, I don't think...
Hello, Amazon.
Hello, Amazon.
So anyway... Phoned Amazon. Hello, Amazon. So anyway...
Hello, Amazon.
So anyway, emailed and said there's no elastic on my Iron Man mask.
Now, is this...
What I'm trying to get from you two,
is this good customer services or bad customer services,
what I got back?
I got an email...
They say, do you live alone, sir? I got an email with a link to, well, first of all, let me get this right.
I got a £5 refund on the Ironman thing with a link to a £3.99 spool of elastic available on Amazon.
Is that how it's supposed to work, customer service?
It's some sort of crazy DIY approach.
Have you ever heard of such a...
All I can think is that if you get that, you're a pound up.
Well, a pound and a penny, Al, that's not like you.
Yeah, you get some change.
Yeah, but I mean, I've got to do craft.
Yeah, exactly.
I didn't think there'd be a craft element.
I mean, it's a bit like...
When you actually factor in an hourly rate.
Also, Al, if I ordered a feather boa,
let's say I was doing my Hey Big Spender routine.
Again.
Of course.
Yeah.
And they just gave me
a piece of string.
Yeah, and set.
And then a link
to a feather.
A link to
a Bernard Matthews
turkey farm.
Yeah.
And so make it yourself.
That'd be absolutely
alright.
Yeah.
Look, I tell you what,
I'd like to know
what people think about this.
I'd also like to know
your best or worst
customer services experience
because I've got to try and work out where I am on the scale here.
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So I have, I don't know why,
but I've posted a picture of me holding up the actual elastic
that Amazon guided me to.
They didn't send me the elastic, remember.
They sent me a link to the elastic.
So I had to action that as well.
What I like is that you
got somebody else to email them
and you also got somebody else to put up the
picture for you.
There's quite a lot of catering to you.
Yeah, I did bring,
I drove in the elastic.
That was brave, Al.
I've just seen the elastic.
I don't want to boast, but IRL.
In real life.
Yeah.
Good use of IRL.
Can I be honest, Frank?
Go on.
It was a sorry affair.
Well, it's...
Listen, don't take it personally.
You've done really well given the circs,
but it's very thick, the elastic.
Yeah, but i think you need
think for an iron man mask remember there's quite a lot of action involved i might what worries me
is i think i'm gonna have to put a stitch in it and i don't mean my pa i mean me personally i'm
gonna have to thread a needle and put a stitch in the damn thing i mean t Stark, you know, presses a button and it all happens.
But, you know, I'm afraid on the shop floor things are a bit different.
You don't see Tony Stark having to send emails to Amazon asking for elastic, do you?
No, well, he'd just think email and it would happen.
That's probably something that's in one of his new row his new row things what's
the superpower then is he strong now he's rich he's rich is that a superpower iron man and batman
iron man is marvel comics rich bloke and batman is dc comics rich bloke and it's it's yeah so
there's hope for us all if you work hard it's it's the American dream, work hard, get rich, you too can be a superhero.
Yeah.
Remember that, kids.
You can buy your way in.
I thought he was a neat freak,
and I rather like the sound of him.
But I genuinely like to know what you got.
Do you think that's good customer service
or bad customer service?
Al?
I mean, I have a view on this, obviously.
Yeah, I think it's towards the negative side
I don't know
it's stretching it a bit
don't get your knees in a twist
I thought they'd say send the outfit back
we'll send you on with elastic
or send the mask back
but not here's a tip
try this elastic
can I tell you what it is i think they've
tried but it it would make me lose some faith in the in the product and the company i suppose in a
way it's made me see amazon as a bit less of a gargantuan, colossus, impersonal company.
If there's a bloke in an office somewhere saying,
oh, try elastic.
It sounds, you know, I imagine it all would be...
Quite human in a way.
I thought there'd be robots doing it all.
I agree. It feels a bit make, do and mend.
Yeah.
It's a bit Hamforth Parish Council meeting.
I imagine they had a meeting about it.
We've got a 2pm about the Frank Skinner Iron Man mask. I imagine they had a meeting about it. We've got a 2pm about the Frank
Skinner Iron Man mask.
I think there was a meeting.
When I complain about my
Apple pencil,
are they going to refer me to various
electrical circuits?
I have to get a welding iron
at home.
Have you heard his Amazon pronunciation?
It's quite good.
Amazon? Yes.
Yeah, that's right, isn't it?
You're always
picking me up on my pronunciations.
How?
I like it.
What do you call it?
It makes me think of the rainforest
when you say it.
Will you call it Amazon?
What do you say, Al?
I say Amazon, but...
What do you say?
Amazon.
Amazon.
Yeah, Amazon.
You know, like Wonder Woman.
You say it like you're naming a new land or something.
Well, in a way.
Now, I'm starting
elasticating things.
Who knows where it'll end.
We've had some customer feedback
anecdotes.
Oh, we have? Good.
653 has texted.
I'm going to slightly edit
the name of the toy shop out
Frank, Emily and Alan
on customer service, my mate Neil did his
GCSE work experience
at the customer service department
of a major toy shop
I'm going to say
in the 90s
he spent his week telling people they would send
them a £100 gift voucher in the post
to anyone that complained,
no matter what the problem was.
And there were lots of happy people.
I wonder what came of it in the next few weeks after he went back to school.
Oh, so he was lying.
Yes.
Oh, no.
And I believe they went under a few weeks later, according to this.
But I thought they were still around, actually.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know who they are. Oh, we don't know.
That's one of the joys of customer service,
is lying.
Are they hyphenated in any way?
Hyphenated twice, perhaps.
Only way we don't know.
Let's not go into it.
I'd also like to share out John Hopkins,
who's one of our regulars, has been in touch.
Morning all.
Hopper.
Could work, I suppose.
Morning all.
My wife complained about the viscosity of some mascara.
Yes, it's the thing.
Okay.
That she'd bought from an online clothing accoutrement company.
I don't know what viscosity.
Is that how thick it is?
It's the thickness.
OK, yeah.
As a way of apology, they sent her a free shoehorn.
Wow.
That's good for getting our eyelids open.
How thick was it?
We've also had...
I love a shoehorn.
Some people have sent us pictures of irons.
Ian Stewart-Dudson saying this was amazon's original
idea and a picture of a russell hobbs supreme steam traditional iron in reference to the iron
man mask oh i see yes very good and josh jeffrey has said i'll tell you what if i look that josh
jeffrey's josh jeffrey okay i tell you what, off the picture of you, Frank,
if I look that good when I'm 64, I will be delighted.
Well, I think you'll be fine.
You'll rent a cottage in the Isle of Wight if it's not too dear.
You will scrimp and say, oh, that's lovely.
Thank you so much.
Thank you to all my fans out there.
There's only one.
You, Steve.
It's you, Steve. You, Steve.
It's you, Steve.
You tell him.
I'll tell you what I did this week.
What about this for a crazy activity?
I went to the cinema.
I mean, I'd almost forgotten what that was like.
What did you see?
I saw, I might get the title wrong,
Raya and the Last Dragon.
Never heard of it.
No, it's a beautiful Disney animation.
Oh. It's like a work
of art. Right. And
the message, there's a big message in it
about trust everyone
no matter how untrustworthy
they may seem. The direct
opposite of what I've taught my child throughout
his life. Yeah. Especially in reference
to old man Baxter at number 31.
You're a hamster now, dear.
It's a nice idea.
And, you know, you had to wear a mask and that, but it was not.
I'm sort of, I'm okay with a mask now.
Who's, um...
To be honest, we've had a couple of friends for years who haven't got the
freshest breath in the world and it's enabled me to actually to get closer to them both physically
and spiritually well you're not just okay with a mask you provide guests with elastic for the
mask oh that's true maybe i can get some heavy duty masks made of leather. No. OK.
You could wear an Iron Man mask, couldn't you, on public transport, say?
You could.
Yeah?
Yeah.
If you didn't value your dignity.
Well, I value it, but, you know, it depends on which area.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
And James in Devon has pointed out, Frank,
there is a specialist area of the internet for leather masks.
OK?
Oh, OK, fair enough.
I'm sure there are.
I've seen some in local, just round here, actually. You can still get gas masks over the counter.
Local, yeah.
I don't know if they're for gas.
The thing is,
when being back in the cinema,
everybody said to me,
how lovely to experience.
Everyone I've told said,
oh, great.
You know, it's much,
somewhat special about going to the cinema.
It's not like watching at home.
And I went,
the cinema I went to
was one of those
where you sit on a sofa
and they bring you pizza and stuff.
And I thought, it's not that different from stopping in.
And what they've done is they've made those cinemas as much like stopping in and watching the telly as is possible.
I don't know if that's a good thing to plant in the audience.
And the other, I did a face to face interview no zoom
no masks
where was the interview
it was in
Belsize Park which is
area of North London you'll be
familiar with. Was it in a cafe?
It was in a cafe
and me and David Baddiel
it was so we met he came to my
house and we walked to this
And we were interviewed by a couple of old friends
Of ours that we worked with on fantasy football
Was it a podcast?
No, no, it was a radio
Do you like my lady back?
A podcast?
It was a radio interview
But as you know
Everyone who works in radio radio wants to be in television
and more and more now you do a radio thing and they've got like a camera or what i would call
i don't know if you still use the term camcorder but at least a camcorder yeah judging by the
amount of laughter coming out as a producer I'm not sure if you do
well anyway, so I got there
me and Dave turned up, there were three
cameras, proper
big cameras pointed at this thing
so
I said I thought this was a radio interview
and they said yeah, we're also putting it
on our YouTube channel
I said well, I'm not doing it.
You did.
Did you?
It was a bit awkward.
Good lad.
Yes, I would say it would be awkward.
And I said, no.
Yeah, but if you've agreed to radio,
then it's actually television.
I didn't think that was right.
It's like a media version of the bus replacement train service.
Exactly, exactly.
So can I just fill in a little bit of schadenfreude
for those people? Okay, that was lovely.
And then what happened?
So, what did David say?
Is David quite good at smoothing
things over? Oh, he was brilliant. He was saying
oh, I don't mind it.
Thanks, thanks.
Solidarity, comrades.
Yeah, exactly. We're all in this together so i said well i do i do mind it and i that's not fair i think that's i'm not gonna i'm not
doing it they bought david they bought david a cup of coffee and a piece of chocolate cake
and i said that cake looks. And they got me a fork.
So I could have some of that.
So hang on.
Can we just establish what happened?
David did the interview and you sat in the corner refusing.
No, no, no.
Don't write me off as a refuse Nick.
As a complete refuse Nick.
I was affronted.
I felt I'd been tricked.
And, well, you know, I'll tell you what happens next after this.
Frank Skinner.
Absolute Radio.
May I share this with you from Groovy J?
What?
From Ninjago?
From Groovy J.
Okay. I was in Morrison's once and two checkout assistants in adjacent
checkouts were chatting to each other
and one complained
we never get any decent looking
blokes in here whilst you were
serving me
oh wow
I love you Groovy J
she'd obviously checked him out Oh, wow. I love you, Groovy J.
She'd obviously checked him out.
Oh.
I mean.
So we're in this situation where... We're in a definite type of situation, it's fair to say.
It's a bit awkward.
Can we just say, Cluedo style,
we're in the cafe with Reverend David David Baddiel. Dave sitting in front
of three cameras. I'm standing
to one side. Because
you've
said, look, I was going to do a radio
interview. It's a radio interview.
And you're filming me.
So far, I'm team Frank. It feels like
you could have turned up and they've said, oh, actually,
we're going to do an essay as well.
Yeah, actually, you're changing the territory.
We're hoping you can tell your story in modern interpretive dance.
Here's some lycra and you can get changed behind the bar.
And you're in some sort of Louis Spence figure.
So one of them said, do you...
I said, coffee, Kate, lovely.
And he said, do you want a drink?
And I said, well, I don't know if I'm staying.
It's all a bit...
Anyway...
Oh, God, I feel sick.
It's interesting because...
Well, never mind.
Oh, no, I do mind.
So the producer said, well, OK, we'll turn the cameras off.
And I said, yeah, right.
And she said, we've got to keep them on for the sound and I said well can you turn them
around she said well we'll put the lens caps on I said okay put the put the lens
caps on I mean in direct contravention of what I've learned from Raya and the
last dragon who said trust everyone even though I wasn't having it so um it went on and and emily was just saying to me
that most people the average person has gained 11 pounds during lockdown um i like to think i
haven't changed that much no but again i know it's i know it is um there is a git element to this, but I do feel that that's what's made me a git.
These people have created a monster.
Well, I would say, OK, I think in your favour, in defence of you...
Thanks.
I would say...
I'm going to get to music when you get to the bot at the end of the defence of me.
You know I will. You know i will you know i will
go on i think there's a cleanness to that level of honesty it's unpleasant in the moment but the
elastoplast is ripped off and there's no doubt we all know where we stand, which is great, but...
Well, before you say this, can I say,
I've become quite a champion of radio,
despite being snubbed by the Arias
and the British Podcast Awards, if we're going to bring that up.
Oh, they always snub me, those people.
And I think be proud of the fact...
Hate us.
You know, radio's got a lovely, rich, intimate, verbal
thing going on.
Be proud of that.
Don't feel you've got to film it and send photos of somebody holding elastic on social
media in case the viewers don't know what, the listeners, see I'm calling them viewers,
that's where we've gone to.
They don't know what elastic is.
It's like in local paper.
I remember in my local
paper there was a when i was a kid there was a bloke leaving a company that made metal tubes he
was retiring and they had this story it's a clear enough story man retiring from company that makes
metal tubes they had a picture of him holding a carriage clock, the traditional retirement gift, in one hand, a metal tube in the other,
and he's outside the factory
where all his colleagues are waving.
And I thought,
I got the story.
You don't have to give me the visuals.
So if you're in radio,
be loud and proud.
That's all I'm saying.
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878 has got in touch.
Morning, Frank.
Just wondering how Frank marked the feast day
of St Bede the Venerable last Tuesday.
Well, I did note it.
You have St Bede the Venerable alert.
I put a little word in for Bede in my daily communication, certainly.
Yeah, I was excited to see Bede's.
Oh, can you request shout-outs?
Can I have one?
Yeah.
I think you have been included in the past.
Oh, well, I never have.
Well, it's a funny old world.
I want to know more about the cafe, Frank. Well, look, you know, I never are. Well, it's a funny old world. Yeah. I want to know more about the cafe, Frank.
Well, look, you know, I did the interview.
The cameras were switched off.
I did the interview.
I absolutely gave it my best shot.
I even tried to defuse what I must admit was something of attention.
But I told an anecdote and I gesticulated quite a lot
and I said, oh God, I'm really going for this.
If only this was on camera.
And I thought that will...
Rub their noses in it.
And then someone said, oh yeah, hoisted by your own petard.
And I thought, no, is it...
It was a bit of knowing humour.
Yeah, exactly.
It was me acknowledging the sort of
not they might have interpreted it as what we now call trolling yeah how did um hoisted by your own
child land with you well by then i was in the i mean i was uh on the roll i couldn't be bothered
and also it's from something that was from one of
the interviewers who is uh is an old friend of mine i forgave him okay uh and then at the end
of it it ended and there was no um very little in the way of thank you very well dave got a great, got hogs. I think there was some ticker tape for Dave.
You know in cartoons when it rains on one person?
That's what the ticker tape was on.
That was on Dave.
Dave got all the thank yous.
And you had a cartoon rainstorm over your head.
Exactly.
But, you know, I did.
I absolutely delivered,
if I say so or shouldn't.
But it was orally and not visually.
That was the thing.
And then a group of people gathered, several people.
And I thought, why are they here?
If they're sent for security, am I going to be menaced?
And David Baddiel, you will know, has written a book called Jews Don't Count, which I have to say is a really excellent
read. And there was a queue of people with that book, as if it was a book signing.
Oh, excellent.
So at the end of the day, they get lost out because I had to sit there while people queued up and didn't even, I don't think they even noticed I was there.
Oh, they did, right.
No, they did. They just said, oh, this is such a great book. I love this so much.
Who's that old man you're with?
Who's that old man saying to the crew, yeah, right.
Yeah, I wasn't actually talking to him.
I promised that at the interview, I did
the interview, so that's
alright. That's your story.
Okay. Stick into it. By the way,
before we go
to the outside world, I told
you it was my son's birthday.
My partner,
Kath,
decorated a cake for him um because i think on nine-year-old's cake market not many are asking for alice cooper which is bozzy's current um fave
and so kath did an alice cooper cake it was brilliant just the eyes which is enough
with Alice I might post I actually think I will post a picture of that because it is worth seeing
but um it made me think and I thought I'd be interested with people there are some celebrities
who you can do quite easily at a costume party. Do you know what I mean? Like Halloween or whatever it is.
I mean, you couldn't do me.
Where would you begin to do me?
How would you do George Clooney?
How would you do, you know?
But there are some people.
I think I could perhaps do Russell Brand, for example,
if I had up a bit.
Yeah, yeah.
And, like, you know, I'll put my shirt to the waist and all that.
I've got long-air beads.
But there aren't many.
And Alice Cooper, I think, fits in that.
So, I don't know.
Benny Hill, if you wore the beret and spectacles.
Yeah, you're off.
Benny Hill.
But you couldn't do Benny Hill in a floral shirt and matching tie.
Seventies suit. No one and matching tie. 70s suit.
No one would get it.
It's tricky.
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We wear who?
Outside world.
That's what we were going to do.
What has been said to us?
Well, as you know, we now have a recurring
theme of previously on this show. Ah, yes. Like, you know, when there's a second episode
of something. And we were talking a little while ago about biggest childhood disappointments.
I can't remember how it came up. Oh, it was your son ripping down the Harry Kane posters, wasn't it?
It was, yeah.
He was hearing that Harry...
He didn't rip them down,
but he carefully took them all down off his wall
about three minutes after Harry Kane put in a transfer request.
He wasn't angry, just disappointed.
He was crying.
He was actually crying.
I'm an adult man who thinks that he's well-adjusted,
but I still occasionally have a flashback
to when I was a child waking up the next day
and my mum said,
oh, the Incredible Hulk was on the telly last night.
I nearly woke you up to watch it,
but I thought you were already asleep.
I mean, crushing, isn't it?
Yes, I mean, you don't want to miss the Incredible Hulk.
Well, Zoe Jasmine Riley has tweeted,
not getting my figure skating badge when my cousin did.
I threw a tantrum.
That doesn't sound nice, does it?
That sounds like...
What's the famous rivalry in figure skating
when Tanya Harding...
I believe it was Nancy Kerrigan and Tonya Harding.
Tonya Harding, yeah.
Very good film called I, Tonya on that.
Yes.
I watched, get this,
I'll tell you what I watched the other day for pleasure.
I watched the Torvill and Dean Olympic Rebels Bolero thing.
How did it stand out?
I'll tell you what,
if you ever just want one moment
of what it feels like to have cracked it,
to that moment when you know
you've done the job in life,
and it could be a small thing,
could be a big thing,
but that moment when you think,
yes, I did that.
At the end, they fall onto the ice.
And the music swells.
Yeah, and they lie there and she's reaching out
and the camera is right at ice level
and you can see her face and she's doing this dramatic look
and then there's a moment where she just comes out of it
and you think, that moment she must have thought,
did it, did it perfectly.
Oh, man, it's great.
It's really great.
That sounds good.
Wasn't Michael Crawford involved with them, I believe?
Going into a little bit of trouble.
Yeah, I think there was loads of jeopardy on his journey to watch it.
He was involved in the choreography or something.
Was he?
No, I think he went there on rollerblades on the back of a bus.
He did.
I'm sure he did. I was looking at it because I thought, well, I'm he went there on rollerblades on the back of a bus. He did, I'm sure he did.
I was looking at it because I thought, well, I'm back on tour soon
and I've got to get back to where I was as far as stand-up is concerned.
It's been 18 months, I'm rusty, I've got to get there.
And if you remember, they did it,
there was like a 20th anniversary thing or 30th maybe yeah of that
olympics and they went and did it again and it was still brilliant box fresh so i compared it with
that and of course i also will get a bit of a question a bit of a lie down at the end i find it
interesting timing that you chose to watch that. Britain's probably our greatest, arguably, sporting triumph.
Well.
A few, in terms of clean sweeps,
immediately after our performance in the Eurovision Song Contest.
Oh, yes.
Were the two linked, is all I'm saying.
No, no, I actually watched it before that.
I thought...
I'm not going to say.
I'm not going to say what I thought.
Let's put it this way, I wasn't outraged at our treatment.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
We were talking about, we just got onto Eurovision, I don't know how.
What I would say about the whole thing is I thought the German guys should also have got zero.
Oh, what were they doing?
But there was a brilliant thing which I love so much and maybe this is a visual thing but i will try and do it in word pictures for you all yeah the switzerland guy
who was this very lovable fellow with an 80s haircut and when they had the end of the judges
voting he was ahead and he was smiling and he had that real,
you know when people are looking at the camera going,
I'm not worthy, oh God, thank you.
And he was going, thank you, thank you so much.
And he was like, oh, what a sweet, lovely guy.
And he was going to cry.
He was humble.
He didn't deserve all these points.
Thank you, thank you.
And I thought, wow, what a nice man.
And then they started having the public vote in
and suddenly Italy got like 431 votes
and he dropped down a bit.
And man, Dr Jekyll.
Could you see it?
Oh, he suddenly...
We could see, what do they know about it?
It was magnificent.
And he'd forgotten he didn't care about the cameras.
Let them see what a nasty piece of work he truly...
And he honestly looked like he was going to rip someone's throat out.
It was brilliant.
Do you know, I might go back and have a look at that as a special treat my little insight into from boy next door to boy next
door if you're in Broadmoor it went in one flip it was great I always like a
glimpse of the heart of darkness and can I say whilst we're on the subject of
Italy monoskin oh yes I believe they're called which is a Danish word not Can I say, whilst we're on the subject of Italy, MÃ¥neskin... Oh, yes.
..I believe they're called, which is a Danish word, not Italian.
Mm.
Do you know what it means, boys?
No.
Moonlight.
Oh, OK.
Ah.
I was very interested in the sartorial choices of Italy.
They see...
You may have noticed, Al, what they were going for
is a sort of
leather
dungaree
with exposed
cross stitch
it had a
Freddie Mercury
feel to it
Freddie Mercury
but also a bit
Minions
the dungaree
sans top
is a Minions
thing
oh they have
no top
yeah it's just
a naked
torso
like the Minions
except they're
yellow tone
and then the
dungaree the first thing I tone, and then the dungaree.
The first thing I thought
when you said leather dungarees was hairdressers.
That would be good for a hairdresser, wouldn't it?
It doesn't stick.
My hairdresser does wear those on his Saturday nights.
I was
in a...
What was it? I think it was
some posh...
It's a Versace shop in Milan, and I tried on a pair of leather...
I tried on some leather dungarees.
This is a dream.
Sorry, can we just start from the very beginning?
I was in Versace in Milan and tried on leather dungarees.
I was filming for the travel show.
And if you take the core of this, it's acceptable.
I was there to see Milan play Roma in football.
It's not explaining this behaviour any further.
But while we were there, they shot me doing various things.
I tried these leather dungarees and I looked like I was going fishing,
flying fishing.
They didn't look at all cool or trendy on me.
But the man in the shop was very nice.
I thought poor James Newman.
He gave it his best and it was a perfectly pleasant song.
He seems a lovely chap.
I think the problem, we were talking of leather,
was he went for a tunic.
It was a sort of medieval leather tunic,
long-sleeved tunic.
Did he sing out of tunic?
Fair, that's excellent.
Left their sleeve, then we're not going to follow that. Here's the thing, and I can't even explain my behaviour in this story.
But I was taking my son...
Well, I'm already on the hook for this story.
No, no, it's not.
No, I would very much read the book.
I can't even explain my behaviour in this story by Frank Skinner.
It's not as good as it sounds, but
I was taking my
son to school
and where I live, and I
don't know if this is a national phenomenon,
but we might find out from our
readers, that people
put stuff out
at the front of their house that they
no longer want.
David, the dealer's done it on your street.
I took a photo of it once.
I don't know why.
I recently collected a book that I thought Frank Skinner might be interested in,
in exactly such a circumstance.
It was a history book about the Picts and the Celts.
Oh, that sounds good.
Doesn't it?
But I don't think I've ever seen a book outside a house
when it hasn't been raining.
David Baddiel had...
I'll have to find a picture.
There were various DVDs.
OK.
There was a selection of them.
Anyway, it's the thing.
My friend Joan Bainwell actually bought a bookcase
from IKEA or wherever,
so she could put stuff out on that and keep it stocked up when she was moving house fantastic anyway there was a cardboard box and it said
please help yourself on it and it was full of New Yorker magazines I I mean, like about 50. Now, I love New Yorker magazine,
but I don't know, to subscribe to it seems like,
I don't know.
An indulgence too far.
An indulgence.
But I just have an image of myself sitting,
not maybe with both feet up,
with one foot up and one on the ground,
reading the New Yorker.
I suppose in my idealised view of myself,
I'm the piano-playing father from 101 Dalmatians.
Oh, yes, I see that.
And I thought, oh, look at those.
Imagine sitting next to a big pile of New Yorkers
and flicking through a
bit of bit of fiction a review and a funny cartoon so i thought i didn't pick them up so i was taking
buzz to school but i i never normally walk back the same way but i'm gonna i thought i'm gonna
walk back and i'm gonna pick up those new yers. And I walk back, and I got incredibly anxious
about the whole thing about picking them up,
and I just walked straight past them and left them.
Oh, Frank.
I said, why didn't I grab the New Yorkers?
Why didn't you?
What was my problem?
And now they've gone, of course.
They've gone.
Someone else has.
Good idea for a text in.
What's Frank's problem?
Yeah, well...
8, 12, 15.
Why didn't I grab the New Yorkers?
What's wrong with you?
You let the fear of others' judgement...
But there was no-one around.
It just felt like a big thing to do.
But what I find extraordinary, Al...
Yes, I'm going to pretend he's not here.
..is that our dear friend will balk
over picking up a few old magazines
which have been abandoned in the street.
And have a sign that says, please help yourself.
And will happily try on leather dungarees in Versace Milano
and say to her crew, yeah, right.
Yeah, it's complicated.
In fact, it was the same please help yourself sign
that I got from Amazon.
Frank Skinner.
Frank Skinner.
Absolute Radio.
Absolute Radio.
245 has got in touch.
I like this, Al, a lot.
The Italian Eurovision entry had a silver necklace
that said annoying.
How fantastic. It said annoying. How fantastic.
It said annoying.
I want that.
I ordered one whilst watching.
It arrived yesterday.
Wow.
I'm wearing it now.
Wow.
But there was no chain on it
but Amazon have sent me a link
to an anchor chain
which I can cut up at home.
I'm going to order the annoying necklace 245.
That sounds...
Does it say annoying in English or in Italian?
Oh, yeah, 245, if you could let us know.
Because the great thing is, what I love,
it's rather what the comic does,
is I'll highlight my flaws before you do.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
I should get a necklace saying difficult.
Frank should get one saying radio only.
Yeah, but I think I've already been stabbed with that by society.
I think we've all got that.
Oh, well, you know, I'm doing men's, as they say at Amazon.
Hey, Emily, what do you think of this?
I just tried to give Frank some armchair cognitive behavioural therapy
about his difficulty with the New Yorker magazines.
He got anxious and didn't pick up for free,
even though there's a sign saying free.
Oh, don't.
You don't know how much it really upsets me.
I'm trying to recap it for anybody that's just tuning in.
I'm not trying to rub salt in the wound.
I know you're not trying to, but as a side effect, it hurts, Al.
Yeah.
So I suggested to Frank,
maybe he should just spend some of his hard-earned money.
He's worth a few quid.
He could just pop on eBay and buy a job lot of New Yorker magazines,
and then he'd have them, and he'd have fixed the anxiety.
But I think there's some issue.
Well, the problem is with that is whatever I paid for them,
even if I got them for a song, as they say,
as I read them, my enjoyment of them would be undermined
by the fact that I knew I could have got them free.
Oh, you two and your money.
No, but it's not about that.
We've said before,
free things are so lovely.
There was a box.
I bet there was 50 New Yorkers in there.
See, that would put me off that it was free.
I'm sorry, but it would.
Yes, it would.
There's a theory about that in comedy
that if you don't charge the audience,
they come in free, they won't laugh as much.
You get what you pay for.
Yeah, they're not invested.
As many a highfalutin shop assistant will tell you.
Well, exactly.
How much are those leather trousers you nearly bought in Versace Milan?
Oh, this one's not going anywhere, my friend.
When I came out, we were in that shop.
Dungarees or trousers?
No, they were dungarees.
Like the ones...
And they were voluminous as well.
Really baggy.
I think...
If I'd have just slipped the straps down off my shoulders,
I think I could have arguably leapt out of them at a single bound.
That's how loose-fitting they were.
Were they similar to the ones Damiano David wore on Eurovision?
Which one?
He's the MÃ¥neskin lead singer.
No, no, they were much, much more voluminous, much baggier than that.
I think they were more like Hayllen Pace would wear for a corporate.
You know when people sell ice cream at the cinema
and they have the tray hanging down at their waist level?
I could have had one of those on inside the leather dongueries.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio. OK, KJ.
Yeah?
How would you pronounce that?
Because it's a useful...
OK.
KJ.
Whichever way Frank does it, Al, is not the way, basically.
KJ.
KJ?
KJ.
OK, KJ.
I'm not sure there are that many ways to pronounce KJ
Oh have you met Frank Skinner Al?
He's managed to say
Amazon
Got a free
It's not Keith Joseph the former
Tory MP
Is it health secretary?
No I doubt it
somehow
Got a free suite for a weekend
at a posh hotel
after we complained.
During our original
stay, we'd been given the key
to a room someone was already
staying in. Unfortunately,
we unlocked the door
to find a naked man.
Oh, no, it's like
Moby Dick when Ishmael
ends up with... I said, what? Oh, no, it's like Moby Dick when Ishmael... Oh, don't know.
..ends up with... Keep it there, time.
I said, what?
No, but, you know, what's he called?
Queequeg, is he?
He ends up with him in his bed.
They had to share it.
OK, it's 10.08.
OK?
I think it's fine.
It's 10.08, Frank.
OK.
OK.
I think that...
We've been doing this show 12 years.
That's the first time check we've ever had.
That's how desperate I feel.
God, what next, travel news?
Yeah.
Oh, sorry I'm not keeping things blue like you.
What?
In Moby Dick, he checks into this thing,
and in the night...
Ali's done it again.
A harpooner arrives
I think is he called Queequeg
the guy in
I don't want my name on this part
of the show
so do you want to jump in
I know they don't like it
on Absolute when things get Melvillian
but I would like to
I think it's Queequeg
but I haven't that will mean it's queequeeg but I've
you know
I haven't
okay that'll mean
it'll be a
quaequeeg
yeah probably
yeah so
it's a good story though
is there a culmination
or is that
does it end with the
naked man
well I
I mean how much more
info do you want
I mean the man was naked
let's leave him there
yeah I agree
if someone
um not the first time I've said that burst in on me and man was naked, let's leave him there. Yeah, I agree. If someone...
Not the first time I've said that.
...burst in on me and I was naked,
I would reach for the shoehorn for modesty.
I'd reach for the iPhone.
OK.
OK.
Fair enough.
Take a picture.
So, there was a thing in the paper, as they say, about neighbours.
Yes.
Now, this is interesting to me because I am the sort of neighbour,
I certainly always was, who...
I mean, they interview my neighbours on the news after the incident
and they're saying, you know, he's a quite bloke,
kept himself to himself.
I'm kind of that bloke.
But in recent times,
I'd say since I've lived in the road I live in now,
I've sort of, I've got more neighbours,
I know more neighbours now in my street
than I've ever, since I was a child
when neighbours was in and out your house.
So I've gone through a slight alteration.
I know all of your Neighbours.
I mean, I can think of about four you're good friends with.
Five, maybe six.
Do you know your Neighbours, though?
Two of them are lovely.
OK.
OK.
Let's leave it at that.
There's a lot in the omission there isn't there
I'm going to take the fifth on that
but I did say I did have some
charming neighbours who
sadly have moved
I still keep in touch with them
I was such good friends with them
Mark and Jo
that Mark called me once
shout out to them lovely
lawyer lovely
he said I've got to go to a work Christmas party called me once. Shout out to Mark and Jo. Shout out to them. Lovely. Lawyer. Lovely. He said
I've got to go to a work Christmas party.
I'm dressed as George Michael. Can you style my hair?
Well there's an example
then of a celebrity
that you could go to a party.
Yeah it's very easy.
If Mark and Jo had put a cardboard box
full of stuff outside their house
what would it have been?
Oh it would have been fragrant.
Ah.
It would have been immaculate.
Really?
There would have been some lovely stuff in there.
There would have been maybe some legal...
Maybe an old copy of a diary of Edwardian country ladies.
There's some shredded legal documents.
Oh, God, I love that.
It's great for a bit, if you're sending anything back to Amazon for packing.
Ah, yes.
What are your,
but you like your neighbours, don't you?
Yes, I am.
Well, I'll tell you,
I can say it's a thing that when I was a kid,
everybody knew everybody,
but then everyone says,
Oh, in London,
you don't talk to neighbours in London, don're in London and that was true for a bit but
I've changed
We're having a lot of love
can I say briefly for
Cath's cake which has gone up on
Twitter, that is amazing
says Ree, Benny says, brilliant.
Do you think she could do one for my birthday
on Friday or is it too short notice?
You notice
she went for a black ribbon
as well
for Cooperian
authenticity.
Love it. Yeah, nice.
So we were discussing Neighbours
and this, we should say this is based on this survey Love it. Yeah, nice. So we were discussing neighbours,
and we should say this is based on this survey that's come out this week, hasn't it?
So British people typically know at least five neighbours by name.
23% would go to a neighbour for advice before going to a friend.
Sadly, it doesn't give the information that I really want to know,
which is how many british
people love a small percentage of their neighbors like is there one household i don't know what you
mean alan yeah you see when i want to know that when i grew up it was literally this thing of
being in and out of each other's houses you know what i mean so that the old lady from next door would come in and she would just turn up uh sit down and would stay for like three hours
and there wouldn't be a big she'd get a cup of tea but she would just be like part of the family and
then and then go off i remember i don't know if i ever told you this story but she arrived once
with their alarm clock and said to my dad um can you can you do anything with this we can't get it
to work now and she put it on the kitchen table and halfway up the face of the alarm clock was urine and um like some terrible urinary eclipse and she dropped it
that suddenly escalated she dropped it into their um into their bedroom implement and the
but i remember my dad going, get off the table!
Get off the kitchen!
He topped that!
And he was one of these blokes who could mend anything, my dad,
but he would not go for the half-urine alarm clock.
So he told me to take it off.
I'm with your dad.
Yeah. Yeah, so I think she dad yeah you've got to have rules
and it's not often I say that
I think she thought he was being unreasonable
but
no so
poor old lady had to take that
back with her I don't know what happened to her
but I don't think her husband wouldn't have
mended it I don't think
so that's a little insight into what neighbours were like.
Interesting anecdotes.
You see, I think it also said
the favourite topics of conversation
are the weather, bin collection and a pet.
OK.
That depends on your neighbours.
Bin collection gets a lot of chat, doesn't it?
Yeah, but not if you live next door to Ernest Hemingway.
He's got other topics.
Well, I
again, back in Birmingham,
I remember the only chat
about the weather was
an old geezer down the road
who said to me, the weather
hadn't been as good since man had landed on the moon.
Something you'd say, Frank.
That's the only...
My favourite new conspiracy theory.
Frank Skinner on Absolute Radio.
Al and Frank, Roger Turner has tweeted us
regarding the conspiracy theorist you encountered, Frank.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I had a similar experience to Frank in the 60s,
standing at a bus stop in the rain
when the elderly lady next to me announced
that the bad weather was down to that Sputnik thing.
Oh, there you go. There you go.
There you go.
Most readers will of course be too
young to know of Sputnik.
I knew a woman who
she
worked a little bit in telly, sort of bits
and scraps of things and then
she did a, I think it was
a two week course
in meteorology
and decided she was going to go to America to become a weather...
Do they still call them weather girls?
They can't call them that anymore.
Is it meteorologists?
No, but, you know, a weather person.
Presenter.
And I know when she filled in her...
You know you have to fill in a visa and that to move,
and it said occupation, she wrote scientist based on the two week thing.
But I think she did become a weather.
What was it, Jason McAteer, left back, position left back.
Well, so how qualified are weather men and women at 12.15?
That's a good question.
I just wondered, are they just presenters or do they actually know about...
Do they have to study meteorology?
I think it depends on the presenter.
Okay.
What about the Spits and Spots man?
Do you remember him?
No.
Who's that?
He was a guy who used to live near me.
When me and Dave lived together, He used to live near me.
When me and Dave lived together, he used to live nearby.
And he was called the Spits and Spots man.
That was his catchphrase.
Oh, I don't know. Quite a handsome man.
I think he was what's known as a heartthrob,
which you'd think would be some sort of illness.
Can we also share with the group, Helen Gredow,
talking of sort of customer service type things.
Amazon driver dismantled the stone wall in my front garden.
What?
In order to build a small shelter for my package.
What?
Wow.
What?
Some sort of stonehenge for the package.
I suppose care for the package is...
That's actually the title of my new men's health book.
I mean, Al, what do we do at this point?
But that shows he cared for what he was delivering
more than he did for the actual natural structure.
Cared?
I mean, people will be looking at that sculpture
in several thousand years.
I wonder what that housed.
Helen does finish.
There's an end to this story.
Unlike the naked man, there's an end.
Okay.
I did get a £150 voucher for it, though.
So both worst and best.
I'm assuming Helen complained about the unasked-for stone restructuring of her wall.
Yeah.
Can I say, I love that he built the shelter.
Yeah.
He didn't just back into the wall and think,
no, I've created that natural alcove.
Or do what mine does, which is say they'll write, stored it behind the bins on bin day.
I've had all manner of product end up in the bin.
See what I love, though, one of the few pluses of the whole lockdown experience is not having to sign for stuff.
Just there.
You get delivery, you go up, it's just there you go you get delivery you go
up it's just there on the step oh lovely lovely frank skinner absolute radio
we were discussing um neighbors and uh and the survey that says that people know
five of their neighbors names i think I know more than that.
But I have a little mental heuristic where I divvy up my neighbours
into those that are a laugh and those that I just say hello to.
Or actually, there's a third category,
some that I used to say hello to but I no longer speak to.
Can I ask you a question?
I don't like them.
What is a heuristic?
I think it's like a way of remembering things, isn't it?
Oh, okay.
I mean, I might have just misused the word.
No, no, I'm not pulling you up.
I honestly don't know what it means.
Yeah, you see, it's interesting
because I would say in your street, Frank, being familiar, I won't name names, but you are very blessed.
You have some fabulous neighbours and there is a Ramsey Street vibe.
I see you as the sort of Helen. Yeah, I see Frank as the sort of, if we're going on the neighbours theme, sort of Helen Daniels.
Yeah, I don't know if I've got the downturned mouth.
David Baddiel
is the, what's his sort of Joe
Mangle figure, perhaps.
Or is he getting into scrapes?
More like Bamser. Harold,
maybe.
Who's
Charlene? Oh, that would be
kind of... Well, I couldn't possibly answer.
You see, I think, this is very much down to my partner, Kath.
If you can imagine a sort of fairground attraction that was the incredible Gittish man,
but with a very winning, persuasive person on the front door
bringing them in to look at them.
That's it.
That's how they trapped them. They put Kath to get them in and then at me. That's it. That's how they trap them. They put
Kath to get them in and then they
descend into the lair.
If I hadn't met Kath, I would be
staying in a lot watching Doctor Who
and sport. I mean, that would be me.
We still do that quite a lot.
But even more. When did you last watch
Doctor Who, Frank?
Not Thursday night.
No.
Two Eps.
Dry spell.
Two Eps!
Episodes three and four of Terminus,
if anyone out there is interested.
Oh, Thursday night. Which included Lisa Goddard in the guest.
Oh, was she married to Alvin Stardust?
I don't know if she was then,
but he wasn't mentioned in the episode.
So, Thursday night.
Yeah.
That's quite recent.
I mean, it's quite recent.
Well, I have an early night on a Friday, you see,
because of having to get off the watching terminus.
I watch Doctor Who, I would say, six nights a week.
Are you absolutely joking?
No.
How many?
No, I think he's serious.
I'm serious.
I would normally, if I'm a bit tired, I'll just watch one episode.
But generally two.
That's enough to make you tired.
Generally two episodes.
That's enough to send you to sleep.
Frank, you've seen all these before.
How many episodes?
It's not a bad...
When you haven't seen an episode for two, three years,
you can't...
I remember bits, but not most of it, certainly.
But presumably, do you do that?
Is it like Rocky Horror Experience?
This has really become now, hasn't it?
Sorry. I've met my therapist
You asked me this question
Sorry, but when you're
sort of watching it
is it a rocky horror experience? So you're
saying under your breath, citizens of Gallifrey
No, well I
watch it
alone
often I'm just on my phone
Wow, okay Yeah I watch it alone. Often I'm just on my phone.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I can honestly say I love it.
I know you do. I don't even think, oh, better.
That's nice.
I mean, there is never one on one.
You get some episodes that are less good, but even those I still.
Take that back.
I know.
Well, I'm not going to name names.
As most of them are dead, it wouldn't really matter.
But anyway, yeah, and you sort of think,
oh, I forgot Lisa Goddard was in this.
So, yeah, but as you asked, that is the answer.
Frank Skinner.
Frank Skinner.
Absolute Radio.
Absolute Radio. I have a question on neighbours what's the
boundary for a neighbour
like if my mate lives like
three miles away can I give him a shout out
as a neighbour of mine
I think they've got to be
in your road
that's my own.
I say the boundary for a neighbour is don't bring in an alarm clock
half full of urine and put it on the discotape.
That was a boundary, wasn't it?
That's crossing the boundary.
I've never done a shout-out on the show, but I would like to.
My mate Leroy has won a Pride of Manchester section
of the Pride of Britain Awards thing
because he genuinely saved a girl's life.
He swam into the sea and rescued her and nearly drowned himself.
So I've never done this, but I wanted to shout out to Leroy.
I think that's fair enough. Well done, Leroy.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Leroy, that is amazing.
But have you ever reconstructed a wall
and turned it into a shelter for packages?
No, see, where is that guy's award?
I'm just saying, we're all doing our bit.
There's a fabulous Laurel and Hardy film where May Bush,
the actress who worked a lot with them,
she jumps in the river to end it all and they rescue her.
And she says, well, you know, you're responsible for me now.
You've got to give me a flat and all that kind of stuff.
That's exactly what I'd do.
If I was Leroy, I might change a few numbers.
Be more careful.
Yeah, exactly.
Lovely take on it there from Frank Skinner.
Some people on our street who are friends and neighbours
have also been camping together, and I've been on it once.
But if memory serves, we didn't set up the tents
in the same geometry and formation as the houses,
which seems like a missed opportunity, doesn't it?
Oh, that is a shame, yeah.
You see, if I was just standing at the bus stop with neighbours,
I'd want us to be in the same order as our houses.
Yeah, I'm glad it's not just me that thinks like this.
Did the Beatles, I was watching the Beatles last night,
and I, am I right?
Let me review.
Am I right in saying...
Apparently they're really good.
Yeah.
I like them, and Apparently they're really good. I like them.
And those haircuts.
Yeah.
Was it always from left to right,
George, Paul, John, and then Bat Row, Ringo?
Oh, did they have an Ant and Dec system?
Well, I'd only noticed it towards the end of the film,
so I don't know if they were all...
I think the Beatles were basically...
What made them great was Paul McCartney being left-handed,
because for me, the moment that lives
is when him and George, and sometimes him and John,
sing into the same microphone.
There's something very intimate and lovely about it.
It's almost like a butterfly picture or something, isn and lovely about it. And that would have been
really...
It's almost like a butterfly picture
or something, isn't it?
Yeah, but that would have been
very difficult
if Paul had been right-handed.
There'd have been too much
neck and string and that
in the way.
So it's little things that...
And possibly in rehearsal
they tried it the other way around
and it was like dueling banjos,
like a sword fight
with the guitars.
Can I ask one last question, by question by the way yeah i just saw that we we have to have the tv
news on mute in case there's a terrible enormous news story that we have to go to our people for
i can't imagine that happening no and and then Fergal Sharkey, the former
Undertones person,
appeared on.
The former
Undertones person?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um...
The lead singer.
He was captioned
Fergal Sharkey
Commissioner
Salmon and Trout
Association.
Now, I'm all
for retraining,
but is this a case
of nominal determinism
that Fergal Sharkey is working with the salmon and...
Yeah, it's the fish world.
Him and Nicola Sturgeon were talking about...
No, she wasn't anyway,
but that is the summer going on there.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway...
I think he might also play bass. Oh! It's a going on there. Oh, yeah. Anyway. I think he might also play bass.
Oh.
It's a bit laboured.
It's a bit laboured.
No, I liked it.
I don't think you should have said bass after.
I think you should have left us, trusted us.
All right.
Trusted us with it.
But, you know, I'm being picky.
Oh, so look, don't forget the latest episode of my poetry podcast is out this Wednesday.
It'll be up.
Oh, yeah.
And it's available wherever you usually get your podcasts.
That's what you have to say.
Robert Frost.
Was that the last?
Robert Frost was the last one.
Oh.
A poem about a man who burnt down his own farmhouse in order to spend the insurance money on a telescope.
Check it out.
Legend.
Okay, so if the good Lord spares us and the creeks don't rise,
we'll be back again this time next week.
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