The Gargle - Social media babies | Cryonics | AI CEOs

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

Josh Gondelman and Alison Spittle join host Alice Fraser for episode 160 of The Gargle. All of the news, with none of the politics.👶🏻 Social media babies🥶 Cryonics client🤖 AI CEOs🐕 Poo drama💅🏻 ReviewsWatch on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@BuglePodcastStory 1: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/29/us/social-media-children-influencers-cec/index.htmlStory 2: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/australian-cryonics-firm-freezes-first-client-in-hopes-of-bringing-him-back-to-life-in-future-5764708Story 3: https://futurism.com/the-byte/ceos-easily-replaced-with-aiStory 4: https://www.iamexpat.de/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/berlin-play-dramatises-dog-poo-attack-dance-critic-2023Written by Alice Fraser, Josh Gondelman and Alison SpittleProduced by Ped Hunter, with executive production from Chris SkinnerHOW TO SUPPORT THE GARGLE- Keep The Gargle alive and well by joining Team Bugle with a one-off payment, or become a Team Bugler or Super Bugler to receive extra bonus treats!https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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pew pew pew pew, and Josh Gondelman. Hello, and have I got some butthole moss to sell you? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha leprechauns finding some very educational experiences at the end of a bunch of rainbows. We are seeing the regular deployment of extreme discourse that underpin the symbiotic relationship progressive pundits and right wing maniacs are having with the people that they love to get paid to hate. Before we roll up our sleeves and plunge our arms into the bubbling morass that is this week's top stories, let's have a look at morass that is this week's top stories. Let's have a look at the front cover of this week's magazine.

The front cover this week is Franz Kafka. Did you know that Franz Kafka is the new Gen Z heartthrob? No. No. Where did you find this out? I found this out on the internet where I find out everything that I know. About Gen Z? If you're not aware who Franz Kafka is, he's a long dead Austro-Hungarian writer, a self-loathing

style icon and a whore for a bug metaphor. But he's apparently the heartthrob du jour for the wannabe Gen Z. Would you wake up in bed next to a giant bug? I wouldn't kick that giant cockroach out of bed for eating carrion. He looks cool. He looks like a character actor that is definitely more handsome than he is photogenic.

Do you know what I mean? There's loads of them. I know what you mean. You're like, strong jaw, weird eyes. Yes. Yes, you can't have both. You can only have one. Yeah. And the satirical cartoon this week is the social media platform known as the social media platform, formerly known as Twitter, now called X, has announced that it will be allowing pornographic material on itself, leading most people to go, oh, okay, revolutionary idea to have porn on the internet, and one billion bosomy bots going, wait, wait, have I been putting my pussy in my bio illegally up until now? What's been going on, guys?

What's been happening? It's been freed from its bio-y shackles, you know? In America, the First Amendment protects your right to put your pussy in your bio, I think. I'm not a constitutional scholar. The right to carry pussy. The right to carry pussy. The right to bare ass. Bare ass!

That's great! That's way better! Yes. Top story this week. Babies are all grown up and suing their parents for illegal child labour. News now. This is the news that apparently the first generation of children who were being exploited by their parents for clicks, views and money are now turning around and ungratefully saying that actually it was a deeply traumatic way to grow up. Josh Gondelman, you've grown up. Can you unpack this story for us?

Yes. Unfortunately, I grew up both before social media and with parents who once it was invented decided to stay far, far away from it. The first generation of kids whose lives are documented on social media by their parents are now adults themselves. And how do they feel about this phenomenon? Well, as Facebook relationship status might say, it's complicated. Advocates want child influencers to receive compensation for the work that they did, right? Influencing. And I think that sounds really fair, honestly, it's work that they did. But it is a slippery slope to me,

because I'm worried that I might eventually have to pay my dog for all the cute pictures of her that I post. I would propose as an alternative, or in addition to a payment structure for child influencers, parents should just not be weirdos, just be normal parents. Some of the young adults are lobbying for legislation that would give minors more privacy online even from their own parents. And I think that's good too. A lot is made of young people being too reliant on technology, but I think parents need to relearn how to embarrass their children the old-fashioned way in person. Barge into their

classroom to hand them their prescription diarrhea medication that they left at home and say, here's your poo pills, honey. Say, ooh, is this the Kyle I've heard so much about in front of their crush? Get off your phone and humiliate your kids in person. One proposal actually suggests that when you turn 18, you should be able to remove images of yourself as the child from the internet. And I think actually it should be the opposite. Parents should be allowed to post as much embarrassing stuff of their kids as they want, but not until they turn 18. You got a cute video of your toddler singing,

that's that me espresso. Well, can't wait to see it in 2040 when they're of age and you're not going to ruin their middle school experience. Well, I feel like there's a very small window of where you're allowed to post photos of yourself. Because if this law goes through that protects the privacy

of children, it'll only be really your hottest years, maybe between your mid-20s and your early 30s. And then after that, no one's posting pictures of themselves except under like heavily controlled conditions. You see two selfies a year, both from weddings. Well, I just feel like most like AI must think that we're super hot because we only post hot pictures of ourselves that are at least 30% hotter than us on our best day. I worry that not only will the AI takeover be like really, you know, fatal for our entire species, it'll also be really embarrassing because they'll be like, really?

This is... Ah, you think this is what you look like? But like, I think the thing is, in Ireland traditionally when you turn 21, you get a big 21st birthday party, but they get all embarrassing pictures of you as kids put up in the pub that you're drinking in. So I think like if they do bring this law,

it is like an Irish 21st is in, you know when you're 21, you get your key to your door, the key to the door they call it. And also the right to sue your parents. Like it's kind of fun that adults, the opportunity to go that you've done goofed. But I do think like pictures of babies and videos of babies are a service for the public at large.

Many time I felt very depressed and my first thing that I go to is YouTube and I type in babies experiencing driving through tunnels for the first time. And it's where like, it's where like a parent has a camera right up to their baby's face and they go through a tunnel and the lights change. And I swear it's like it's like it's the best endorphins I've ever had or children eating lemons for the first time. Like that is incredible. I love that type of stuff.

I don't have kids. I'm not going to have kids. Never going to get the opportunity to grow grow my own memes so to speak. I do want people to still put stuff up of their kids and sort it out with them when they're older. Sorry my immediate question with the babies driving through tunnels meme is it the parent who's driving who's filming their child? I think one parent is driving and the other parent hopefully, this is what I imagine is happening, there's two adults in this car, one driving,

one filming and one baby performing, you know, that's what I hope. Because if it's not, I've not consumed this in the most healthy way. You know what I mean? This is like finding out that your hummus is grown, your hummus is made by someone who's also driving a car. And you're like, I really like that hummus, and I'm afraid for everyone. The gig economy is out of control if that's happening.

I feel like this whole trend is, I mean, on one hand, obviously it's terrible when people exploit their children for financial gain. But all parents to a certain extent, like what's the point of having children if you can't overshare about their lives to all of your friends? That is the currency on which parents operate, either boasting about how amazing their children are or complaining about how embarrassing their children are or the fact that they've done some incredibly improbable and horrifying way of getting poo somewhere it shouldn't be. Like this is all part of the meat of parenthood and I feel

if you strip that from parents it'll be a real loss. Yeah, like you have definitely sent me pictures of your baby when I've said I've had a bad day. Do you know what I mean? And it's been great and needed. And I will feel sad if that is kind of gone. Babies are cute. They have to accept. I'm sorry.

You're cute. People will doubt over you, including the internet. And I'm sorry, but yeah, babies get with the program. Yeah. If that's the case, like adults should be be able to sue aunties for their cheeks being a bit weird because they've been pinched so much as a baby. Maybe this is just part of how we have to accept growing up in the age of the internet is that first you're a cute baby, then you're a cute baby online and you love your children

and they make you so proud and then they grow up and they get all sulky and teenage and then they turn into adults and get all sulky and teenage and then they turn into adults and sue you for exploiting them. I mean, maybe that's just the life cycle that we have to go through now. Yes, the circle of life. I think that's right. I think that's just a natural, the lawsuit phase of parent-child relations is just like a new step that technology has introduced in our life and it's not good or bad, it just is. Oh my God. If we had the chance to sue our parents, I'd sue my mom. I remember my mom's name is Jenny and the guys in school used to do a joke where they'd find out your mother's name and then make a pun on her name. So my mom was called Jenny for a penny. And once a guy, that's the amount of money, once a guy was shouting after me had school and my mom was collecting me and he goes,

Jenny for a penny. And my mom knew straight away and she said, at least a tenner. How dare you? You know, so I think I know it's a very funny lady, but I was very embarrassed. So yeah, that's, that's what I'd see my mom for. You should see her for a tenner. I should I should 10 euros bang. Yeah, absolutely. In all seriousness, I think if people are using their children, filming their

children and putting them online and making money off the backs of their children, they should be forced to have like workplace conditions and like someone there to supervise their children's welfare and you know, only work them a certain number of hours like it's a real job. Totally. Because if you're getting that much money for it, you should be actually treating them like the child labour employees that they are. Have twins, only use one at a time. Yeah, the Mary-Kate and Ashley rules.

I think if you think a baby going through a tunnel for the first time is cute, you can't wait till you see a baby smoking its first cigarette on a union mandated 15-minute break. Yes. Can I just say to be like incredibly pedantic, I was part of my baby passing through a tunnel for the first time and I've got to say it was not. You were the tunnel, yeah. And okay, so who was taking the video? Was it you or was it someone else? My arms aren't long enough to do a normal selfie, let alone...

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job you want. LW – Jesus! KM – And that brings us to cryonics news, which is our freezing humans so they might come back from the dead news. An Australian cryonics firm has finally entered a world in which they have one client, one client. They've been revving up for years and now they have one person who they've frozen. I feel like you don't really want to be a prime mover when it comes to cryonic firm. If you want if you want to freeze yourself and last forever, like you don't go with the newcomer in the

industry, I feel. You want somebody who was like an unbroken line since building the pyramids and they have at least a thousand people in the vaults. You want to be taking advantage of the economies of the scale. Alison Spittel, you've frozen while on a Zoom call before. Can you unpack this story for us. Yeah, so this is like a this is an Australian company that are offering cryogenics. So this was I looked at the price of it. It's $180,000 and a few extras view. I like when I was like when they were offering extras, I was like, is this like Ryanair?

Like halfway through your sleep does someone offer to sell you scratch cards? Like what is this? Um, but yeah, it's a hundred and seventy thousand dollars, which is the price. And I looked it up of a two bedroom flat in Bradford. So you're either picking between a small starter home or eternal life. Um, and this is the first person to do this is exciting because who is the perfect customer base for any company? The answer is the dead because you know, who doesn't ask for refunds? The dead. If anything goes wrong with this, who cares?

And also there's only 40 spaces in this, in this center for, for the dead. So like, imagine if your partner, right? Imagine you're being this dude's life partner and he's getting his... He's going to cry, genetically sleep. I hope he's paying for his life partner to sleep as well. Or that is a damning indictment of their relationship. It's like, I love you for about 53 years, but not forever. Like, well, technically death did us part. Yes. And I was looking at this, I was like,

when I read this headline at first, I was like, Oh my gosh, has Rupert Murdoch died? But this man is in his eighties, so he's too young. Yeah, he's aged out. Yeah, he's such a tragic thing when someone dies that young when you know they had at least another three marriages in them. Yeah, another three death doers parts. I agree with you, Alison. I think cryonics is kind of a great business because worst case scenario, if you totally fail at it, the person you froze just stays regular dead.

Oh, you didn't successfully develop Dr. Frankenstein technology? Well, no harm, no foul. Uncle Paul is just dead classic. I guess we'll wait for whoever's paying the freezer bill to also die. And then I don't know, put him in a lake. What do you do with a frozen dead guy? If I was dead, I'd be trying to do a Google review for a Ouija board.

Just like, you know, I was let down one star, you know. That's so funny. Yeah, it's just they also said that their business was mostly ready when they got the call to freeze patient one, which also patient one is kind of a grandiose term for someone who's already dead. When an old man dies and you put him in a freezer, he's not a patient. I would call him freeze pop one. That's what I would call them. Oh, imagine if they grandchildren they call them pops. That was popsicle. Pop popsicle. That's beautiful. I think that would be sweet. They also said they had had their eye on some clients,

but the first client ended up being someone unexpected, which the only thing I can take that to mean is that they were eyeing some old people and then a different old guy died first and they were like, all right, he jumped the line. And that brings us to our review section. As you know, each week we ask our guest editors to review something out of five stars. Josh, what have you brought in for us this week? Okay, this review is going to sound almost like an advertisement, and not to tip my hand too far,

but it's a glowing review. Have you ever wished you could chew on melted butter, but it's just too slippery? Do you watch those crime shows about medical examiners and think, I wish dinner could be more like that? Do you like portions of sushi sushi but find it not quite expensive or messy enough? Well, have I got a seafood for you. Lobster. It's fishy, it's difficult to eat, and it's almost always alive when you first see it. And if that's not enough for you, people who don't eat it will tell you it's basically the cockroach of the sea.

Well jokes on you, skeptics, that just's basically the cockroach of the sea. Well, jokes on you skeptics, that just makes me think cockroaches might be delicious. But on the other hand, eating a lobster lets you wear a bib as an adult and not in a weird sex way. So you can pretend you're a very wealthy baby. Five stars for lobster, the food that has to be restrained in a tiny enclosure with hand restraints like Hannibal Lecter himself.

But you get to eat Hannibal. Beautiful. Revenge. Yeah, that's fun. We've always wanted to. Oh wow, amazing. I do love lobsters too. No, I just had some at a family reunion. We were on Cape Cod and I was like, this is fun. This is a good time. I feel bad eating them because they're famously monogamous. Oh, you know that. So you're like really taking someone's one true love out of the game.

Yeah, exactly. Wait a minute. You wouldn't mind eating lobsters if they were more horish. Yeah, if they were poly because it's like you still got people. They still have someone, right? If you're in a polycule. Yeah, I mean, someone right? If you're in a polycule. Yeah, I'm eating beef and I'm like, you whore. They've got four stomachs. They definitely have four partners. One for each stomach. That's what I tell

myself all the time when I eat meat. I'm like, these are bad, bad animals. I'm like, these are bad, bad animals. I'm like, I'm like, yeah. I'm, I am justice when I eat. I am lady justice. Alison, what did you put in for us to review? I got a magnetic cat eye nails done today. So that's where, uh, you get, so there's so much, what I love about getting my nails done is there's always a new technology

that you have to pay a fiver extra for. And I'm like, give it to me, baby. And I love the extras. So these are by nails, which are apparently a nail varnish that helps you grow your nail and keep them strong. And then the other element is they kind of got a little shimmer in them for the people in the podcast. It's like I've got little pearls on my nails. And what they do is they hold like a magnetic wand and they kind of wave it very theatrically around the tops of my nails to make it kind of pinky and stuff. And I love it. I love getting my nails done because I love having someone hold my hand.

Just as this nice hat for human, human feeling. But now that they've added the magnets to this, I'm going to give it four out of five. It's incredible. I'm saving my one star for a new piece of technology, which will come in my nails. Like, I think they should put practical stuff at the end of our nails. Like, like we're a little like we're a little Swiss Army knife. Oh, yeah.

So like a corkscrew on one nail, maybe. And like a little a little knife. Why else would it be handy? I'm going to get like a fob key in one and then like a credit card key thing here. So I put it against, you know, what I need to beep. I think it would be really handy. And that brings us to our next story. CEOs could easily be replaced with AI, according to futurism.com of all of the

things that will be replaced by AI. Maybe it's the guy who's skipping out of work to do golf. Alison Spittel, you put the O in CEO. Can you unpack this story for us? Yes, so this is a really interesting article and it's basically talking about how CEOs can be replaced with AI, which is really, really heartening because a lot of stuff that can be replaced with AI at the moment is like creative work, like art and writing. And it's nice to see the big boys upstairs get a taste of what we've had. But yeah, it's basically, it's a survey of business leaders conducted by an IT consulting firm.

43% of respondents said they believe that AI could take over their jobs. And another 45% admit that they were already making major business decisions with ChatGBT. So, like, it's already happening. It's going to happen more. But I can't see CEOs kind of cutting themselves out of being paid a lot because I feel like that's 80% of a CEO's job is negotiating pay scale and stuff. So I can't see that happening. But with me, like I use AI in my emails now, my email style as a human is generally like either quite gruff. I just answered that sentence or I'm like Lord Byron where I'm like,

dear sir, all if I ask for is 20 minutes of stage time and money for safe passage. Good day to you. Like that's what I do normally. So it's good to have AI where it just goes, I want money and these are my terms. So, yeah, that's that's kind of kind of like the way that I've been. Josh, what about you? I'm with Alison here. I think this conclusion is so obvious

that even AI could get it right. A professor at the University of Essex Business School did this in the survey said that some people like the social aspects of a human boss. I think boss has probably said that, but after COVID, more people are fine not having one, not having a boss at all. And I have to quibble with that framing.

I feel like before COVID, people just hadn't considered the no boss life was possible, right? It's not like people always love talking with their bosses around the water cooler. Like the children working at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory in 1911 were like, you know, our boss does keep us locked in a dangerous industrial setting all day, but without him, who would I talk to about the silent film I just saw after spending my month's pay at the Nickelodeon? A scientist at MIT estimates that 80% of a CEO's job could be done by a computer.

I think you probably do want a human in charge of a company rather than a computer, but I do think, Allison Lee, you're right, this gives us the opportunity to cut every CEO's pay by 80%. I think that's incredible and it's fair. Just pay them for the work they're doing like they try to do with the rest of us. I do think there is some subtlety and some nuance here though, right? Because a robot boss on the plus side would never expect you to laugh

at their terrible jokes in a meeting, but it would be so insulting to get fired by a computer where the robot boss is like, this is really hard for me because we're like a family here. Don't give me that shit, boss bot. Your family is a self-driving car. You don't talk about publicly because he killed a guy. And Poo drama now.

And this is the news that a Berlin play has dramatised a very famous dog poo attack that was performed on a dance critic back in 2023. And it's blowing people's minds, this artistic rendering of a, I mean, when art reflects nature and nature reflects art and both of them have dog poo involved. We're all the richer for it. Josh Gondelman, you have the glasses of an art critic. Can you unpack this story for us? Thank you.

So obviously there was a famous story of a dance critic being smeared with dog poo in response to a negative review. And now there's a play based on it it's called I believe um which which translates to the dog shit attack uh which for sure an upside to that is no one can complain they didn't know what they were getting into when they go to this play it is right in the title it also is really playing with fire though, if it's not a good show, because those negative reviews will truly right themselves.

Yes. A dog shit attack sounds like how Walter Kerr might have described Andrew Lloyd Webber's Starlight Express off the record. But I wouldn't be so quick to give the show a negative review because they have dog poop on deck and they know how to use it. I just want to question, are we certain the initial dog shitting was an insult, right?

Because I just assume that's what John Waters does when you open your show instead of sending flowers. Listen, would you go see this show? I love this show. My first thoughts were, how are they going to depict the dog shit? Is it going to be like Shakespeare, where if blood is coming out of someone's chest,

they get a red scarf? Like, what do we get for the dog shit? I'm very, very excited about it. I've come up with some puns, if you will indulge me. So I was thinking of different plays that we can have. Famous, I think this dog shit creates such a buzz that I think we should put it on to other plays that exist to give it a dog shit makeover. So first off, Much Dog Do About Nothing, it gives a twist on the Shakespeare tale.

about nothing. It gives a twist on the Shakespeare tale. A dog shit in the sun. Classic. Because you're like, how would a dog shit last in the sun? A streetcar named dog shit. One man, two dog shits. Long day's journey into dog shit. And my favourite of them all, waiting for dog shit. That is the prequel to that play, waiting for dog shit. They can always smell him, but they can't see him. Yes. Can I pitch a couple? Please. Edward Albee's poo story.

Andrew Lloyd Webber's scats. Yes. A musical, of course. That's right. You need to lift the genre, yes. And back to Shakespeare, or excuse me, and now I guess that doesn't work. Never mind. Go on.

No, mine was, I was actually thinking of a book that was not Shakespeare at all. Were you thinking of A Tale of Two Shitties? I was thinking of A Tale of Two Shitties by Charles Dickens. Wow, that is an incredible pull that you reached into my brain for this wrongly written joke. I'm truly terrified of your psychic capacity. Over at Zoom as well, and Gantons. I know. That is incredible.

Across the world. I figured it had to be that or crime and punishment. Oh, that's good. Very good. Love it. War and poos. I could go on for days. A streetcar named dogshit! Sorry. Wait, hold on. Wait, can I offer an alt pitch on this?

A streetcar named Desiarea. Very good. Very good. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put a scat on a scat.

That brings us to the end of this week's episode of The Goggles. I'm flipping through the ads at the back. Alison, have you got anything to plug? Babes, my tour is over. So what I got to plug is I got three work in progress in the Edinburgh Fringe in the last week of the Edinburgh Fringe. I'm also doing on the last Thursday, a new metal karaoke night, which is called System of a Clown, where we get comedians to sing new metal songs.

It's gonna be terrible and great. Just look at it, go to my Instagram, you'll find out information or just find it. System of a Clown. Yeah, System of a Clown, yeah. And Josh Gondelman, have you got anything to plug? Yes, I've got a few last tour dates. Before I record my special, I have a couple tickets left for my special taping late show

June 21st at the Bell House in Brooklyn. And then going backwards from there, running the set on the 18th at Union Hall in Brooklyn. The 15th I'll be in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, just a couple tickets left, 14th I'll be in Rutherford, New Jersey at Bananas Comedy Club, 13th I'll be in Stamford, Connecticut in New York Comedy Club, Stamford,

and the 9th in the afternoon I'll be at Helium in Philadelphia, if this is out by then. And for all that information and more, I do a pep talk newsletter for free every Monday at joshgondelman.substack.com. To subscribe, you can find out about all Josh Gondelman related activities. That sounds delightful. I am subscribed to that newsletter and I'm always sad that I can't come see your shows

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