The Glass Cannon Podcast - Cannon Fodder 4/5/23

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

We've hired a new employee! Troy and Joe discuss the newest member of the Glass Cannon Network, Troy's most recent social media content plan, and some updates on the studio and the live tour. In We Ar...e Stupid we ask: do Aid checks stack? And in the wrap up, a serious look at whether or not Strange Aeons should still be played on tour. For more podcasts and livestreams, visit glasscannonnetwork.com and for exclusive content and benefits, subscribe today at patreon.com/glasscannon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:32 So you can lunch legendary, dinner deliciously, breakfast brilliantly. We'll be right back. April 8th. A behind-the-scenes look at the Glass Cannon Network. Yo! What is going on, everybody? Welcome back to Cannon Fodder. It is Wednesday, March 5th. March 5th? April 5th. My mind is lost. 2023. My name is Joe O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And I'm Troy. Can't wait for St. Patrick's Day in a couple weeks. La Valle. March is my least favorite month of the year. What is actually your least favorite month of the year? Ooh, probably January, just because I'm still on those Christmas with Carl. That is the worst month of the year. I forgot. But I love winter. I love winter. And I love, you know, I love winter.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I love the snow. I love the cold. But I'm still, the lingering sadness from No More Christmas lasts until at least February for me. Until at least February. Well, it is indeed April. Baseball is underway. It's, oh man, great time of year and great to be hanging out with you, Nish. What is going on, everybody? We are excited to bring you some news, some updates today, a new employee hire, and a studio update, a live tour update. We'll talk a little bit about Labs, some new content.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Of course, we are stupid. Lots, lots to get into today. But first, I want to start it off by welcoming our newest employee to the Class Cannon Network. Not joining us on the FOD, but just out there. Wanted to let the nation know, if you're familiar with Francis Mremma from Get in the Trunk, Troy's buddy from the old days in New York, former resident of the island of Hawaii. We have roped him into coming back to New York City and being a full-time employee of the Glass Cannon Network.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And as of two days ago, he's on the books and officially an employee of the Glass Cannon Network. So a huge welcome to Francis Maremma. books and officially an employee of the Glass Cannon Network. So a huge welcome to Francis Maremma. He is taking on the role of studio manager and editor, producer and editor for the Glass Cannon Podcast. So very excited to have him on. Troy, your thoughts of hiring an old friend of yours from the old days in New York? Yeah, it's very, very exciting. I mean, this is kind of the dream, right? You start a company and hire all your friends.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Exactly. I mean, this is kind of the dream, right? You start a company and hire all your friends. Exactly. But like, we're very lucky in that like, we have friends that are incredibly talented and incredibly skilled for these positions. And when you're a small company like this, trust is so, so important. So we've been very lucky to have your childhood friend McDermott quit his job and work for us. And then Francis to relocate. He hasn't lived in New York for like 17 years. I think he left right before I went to L.A. for a very short stint back in 07. And so, yeah, it's about 17, 16 years. It's been since he's been all over the world.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I mean, Francis has been all over. He lived in like Bogota for a the world. I mean, Francis has been all over. He lived in like Bogota for a little bit. I mean, he's a weird dude. He is a maniac. Like I just – I can't wait to get him on more content. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I'm so excited to have him on. Not just on Delta Green, but guesting on other stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And of course, I think that he could make an appearance at some point on the FOD. Oh, yeah. Bring him on. Just chat because getting to know Francis is going to be important for the niche you guys got to get to know francis i did um his onboarding this week you know all the employee forms and paperwork and signing shit and all that stuff and he uh he's just so happy to be back in new york he's got a new york glow about him he's like man i'm so happy to be back here. He said he felt like a hermit in Hawaii. He was just spending all this time in this basement apartment. He didn't know
Starting point is 00:05:11 too many people and he was just laying low all the time. So he feels like the world has opened up to him as he comes into a more populated area. Yeah. I mean, God, our New York days, I met Francis in 2002, like two years after I moved to New York. I was working at a video store across from Columbia University where I was getting my MFA. I got a job there after my first year. I worked all summer that first summer after my first year. And then when I got back to school, I couldn't keep up with the hours because school was like 7 a.m. the fucking midnight by the time you got out of rehearsals.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And then, of course, you had to go to the bar. But anyways, during that first Christmas break of my second year, I was like, you know what? I'm off for a month. I think I'll pick up some hours, earn a couple bucks. And they had hired this guy, Francis, in September after I left. And he was an old friend of my buddy, Dave Kang's who I was, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:05 I'm writing glass cannon 2.0 with. And, uh, anyways, I, that's, I became friends with France. The first night we worked together,
Starting point is 00:06:12 we went out until like six in the morning. And I was like, this guy is going to be a friend of mine for a long, long time, the rest of my life. And he was, and, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:23 so it's just very, very exciting. You know, Francis comes from like those early days of me in New York while I was The rest of my life. And he was. And so it's just very, very exciting. You know, Francis comes from like those early days of me in New York while I was still in grad school and just out of grad school, like super hungry, trying to get shit going. He was in film school for a while. I was doing all of his student films and like we were just hanging out, staying out all night, trying to come up with the next great American film or TV show. And as dreams go, we never quite figured it out. But now we're back, we're older and a little wiser, and we have the ability to create together. So it's really a dream come true. It's awesome. It's awesome. He will be spending a lot of time in the studio. As a local New Yorker
Starting point is 00:07:04 now, he will be helping us with not only the build-out but the management and day-to-day running of that studio because there's going to be a lot of complicated equipment in there that's going to be utilized to create this experience that we want to create for the new Gatewalkers series that's coming. Studio is moving along at a good clip. The floor was a big, major problem, but we got that pretty much solved. A huge thank you to McD and CJ, our editor CJ, who just got their hands dirty. I was with them one day with the scrubbing and cleaning of a cement floor, a raw cement floor. And then those guys were amazing sealing that floor. So we've sealed it. And now it's time to actually put stuff on it and start getting things in there so very very excited for
Starting point is 00:07:50 that um give me an update on the tour uh where are we at with i don't think boulder is even an option is it yeah i mean if you didn't jump on boulder i think you did you're done all right so the time of this recording there are two tickets left in boulder literally there are two that's the time of this recording there's two left so left in Boulder. Literally, there are two? That's so funny. At the time of this recording, there's two left. So there's a chance that you're listening to this and it's sold out. Because since those tickets went on sale, there was only one day where we didn't sell tickets. Like, they were flying off the shelves. We love you, Colorado.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Thank you so much. That's how you do it. You want us to keep coming back to your city? Like, sell out super fast. But, you know, they may release more tickets, honestly, if they can, but I wouldn't bank on it. So if you go on there and you haven't got a chance to buy tickets, it may say zero right now. Better luck next time. Get in there and get one if you can.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Also, St. Paul and Seattle, which we mentioned last week, we announced those tickets are flying. And I think VIP is sold out in St. Paul or something? Pretty close. I think there's still a handful left in all of the other four venues. But St. Paul and Seattle really, really – I mean, those are strong markets for us. We realized last year when we went out to Minnesota that like, wow, I think we can come back here and sell out again. And we look on track to do that. But there are still tickets left.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And Seattle too. I mean, there's no PaizoCon. We're not aligning with paizo con this year for the timing so we really need our portland people to come up our vancouver people to come down and our maniacs to fly across the country uh to come out to seattle and hopefully we'll have some paizo friends there too it would be so nice to have some of the uh our friends of paizo come out to the show and everything and uh it's just going to be such a party. Like that after party in Seattle is going to be amazing. I can't wait because we always stay right near the airport.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And it's fun. Like it's kitschy. We enjoy being there, down there for PaizoCon. I love that hotel. That hotel is gorgeous. It feels like home at this point. We've been to so many PaizoCons. I hope they bring it back next year.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But now I'm excited to like stay in downtown Seattle, be able to like not have to take that 45 minute lift ride all the way into the city to be right down there. I should say Matthew is not going to be joining us for Seattle though, just to throw it out there. And the only reason I mentioned that is it may sell more tickets. Matthew's not going to be there. I was just going to make,
Starting point is 00:10:02 I was just going to say the tickets are plummeting. I wanted to make a complimentary joke for Matthew. Yeah. I don't know. He went the other way and I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I wonder if I should fill his seat. I'll have to think about it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 See if we have anybody in town that'd be worth filling that seat. Well, we shall see. Now, LA is always super slow. I don't know what it is. And New York. And New York. Well, New York, I'm never playing again.
Starting point is 00:10:26 LA and New York, they both are like, you're going to have to impress me more than that to buy a ticket to your show. We'll get tickets day of maybe at the door. I might have something going on. Like everybody, they got things going on in those cities, I guess. Come on, California. Too cool. Listen, I get it. You're too cool for school.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You're busy smoking weed and drunk driving all around town. But we need you there. We have like a lot of big things going on. I mean, Joe and I, we can't even talk about this. Joe and I are flying to LA next month to be on a TV show. And there's a lot of things happening right now. And we really need that audience to be jam-packed just like it was last year. All of Glass Cannon West is going to be out for that. So please don't linger on these tickets. Help us sell that out. It's always so frigging slow. Now, Asheville, I expected it to be a little slow, but actually it's picked up as of late. But that's a nice 250 seater. I would really love to sell that out. And I think the only
Starting point is 00:11:19 way we're going to do it is we need people to travel there. We need all the people from the Carolinas. That's an easy trip, a couple hours. But down south, come on, hop in the car, make a weekend of it. That's why I did it on a Saturday so that you don't have to take a day off from work. You can come up Friday night, leave on Sunday, and we'll make it worth your while. That's going to be a wild show. We love our fans down south. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Our southern shows, they let loose. Man, some of those atlanta shows got rowdy yeah and dallas oh man they hit a little different they do they hit a little different you know i used to love traveling down south when i was in college when i got the opportunity to travel to those southern campuses to go to like ut or uh university of alabama. To be on those campuses, it just felt like everybody was like, fuck it. There's no rules here. You can do whatever you want. It's just amazingly different from the Northeast where everything is so regulated, hyper, hyper regulated. I mean, even just crossing down into Baltimore. I remember just going from Philly to Baltimore to go to an NFL game.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I went to an Eagles-Ravens game in Baltimore. And how much easier it was to tailgate in Baltimore versus in Philly because of all the rules and laws that just restrict every single thing that you want to do. It's just amazing. You would think the South won the Civil War. It's so lawless down there. You would think the South won the Civil War. It's so lawless down there. And like, as much as I want, you know, my boys to,
Starting point is 00:12:51 I'd love them to go to college in the Northeast or something like that. If they were like, I'm going to Ole Miss, I'd be like, I get it. The most beautiful women in the world. And like, it's just, it's partying with a side order of school, you know? I'm going to go to Ole Miss. And you're just like, I get it. I get it. Oh, that's so good.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Labs is supposed to come back this week, but it might not be able to happen. We're at the day before as this is airing, and things are still up in the air, but all I can say is that's labs that's labs yeah that's labs it's like we're trying to get together with friends to play a game that's what it is and if people aren't available they're just not available and we're running into some casting issues with uh this week's lab so it may not happen but i don't know if you have any updates on that i haven't seen any updates no i just i haven't had a chance i do all the casting for it and I just haven't had a chance to kind of wrap my head around it. And I'm like all of a sudden like, oh, fuck, Labs is back. So I sent out some emails yesterday and I'm waiting to hear back. But I really – I know Jared is excited to do it and he's available.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So I'd love to get it going. It's just – it's going to be a little tricky. But I mean like you said, that's Labs. That's Labs. I'm excited about the game too. I'm not going to say anything about it because I don't want to tease it just in case it doesn't happen. We'll bring it back later. But the more Jared got me all geeked up about it, talking about what the game is and how much he loves it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Well, not how much he loves it. He hasn't really played it. He wants to try it. But why he thinks it's going to be great and it sounds really cool. So I hope that it can come together. But if not, it will definitely come together down the line at some point. Do we tease Maylabs? Maylabs?
Starting point is 00:14:31 We need content for Cannon Fodder. Like, don't – All right, I'll say it. Next week, I'll tease Maylabs. Next week, tease Maylabs. All right, I like it. I like it. You can look forward to that.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I'm wondering if we're going to see some more content next week. And when I say content, I mean capital C, content. Because I don't know if you guys saw it, Nish, but Troy made a content. I did a content. This week. In a hilarious effort to raise our social media profile, which is something that we have been talking about for a long time and that we struggle with so hard around here. It is just not our bag and somebody has to take the bullet. And this week it was Troy.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Talk to me about Troy Made of Content. Troy Made of Content. Well, this is something we want to get to the point where we're releasing one of these every hour, five days a week. I waited until Joe was taking a drink. It's my favorite thing to do in the world. I couldn't even hold it in. I knew you were going to say something like multiple times, Dave, when you said one of these, meaning your five minute edited video. Every hour.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I just lost it. I just lost it. I just lost it. Well, I mean, I'll tell you, that's the goal, right? One an hour every day,
Starting point is 00:15:48 Monday through Friday, we'll take the weekends off. Unless we're touring, then we should be, we're just, we have to get better at it. And so we've been talking about it and talking about it and talking about it. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:57 tomorrow. So I was sitting there, I was like, you know what? I'm turning the camera on. And then I sat down with the final cut and I edited it in like five minutes through some, through a little music bed underneath. I like there it's content and i think we're just going to keep doing that i mean we'll see it like even today uh it's it's already like noon and i'm
Starting point is 00:16:13 like fuck i i have so many things to do but i gotta find a way to make some content so we're just gonna be pumping out so pumping out some shorties because people love it dude i went to bed that first night it had like 6 000 views more people watch that than strange making breakfast yeah that was it it's not even like entertaining i wasn't like trying to be honest just make a breakfast have a conversation but like we need to do more of that i think people just really get a kick out of us and i i don't know it's fun to kind of show the people behind the uh the shows we do. We're working on some really cool ideas for more content that's like just different from the content we're doing but still in that ballpark. But still us.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. And so, you know, stay tuned. But in terms of Troy Meta content, hopefully you'll be seeing a lot more of that if I'm in the mood. All right. Let's get on to Glass Cannon episode 69 this week. Yeah. Glass Cannon episode 69. A largely role-playing episode.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So Eric's had some very light lifting this week, Professor Eric, and we are stupid. Before we do we are stupid, though, I do want to – I just want to talk generally about this episode. I really enjoyed it. I loved the role play. Did you – that's kind of a dumb question but I there's no future in which we no alternate dimension in which we like fight Sybil right like when I first
Starting point is 00:17:32 saw it I was like this thing is an enemy like a massive enemy and then it was great to parlay with it but like I was thinking about it after the fact and these are the things I like to ask GM's and you can say hey you know stop asking about things that didn't happen in the story. But I'm just like, if we fought that thing, I feel like it would either kill us and wake up, but we have to get to this yellow king.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I don't understand how there's another option. So, yeah, like, it seems like that was the only option. Yeah, I mean, every party's different, right? I'm sure there's some parties that just like, I'm going to go in there and fucking Nova that thing before it even sees us. Right. And so I – What happens if you do that just like, I'm going to go in there and fucking Nova that thing before it even sees us. And so I, what happens if you do that? I have stat blocks for that. And,
Starting point is 00:18:09 and you know, I can't remember if there's sort of a, like contingency plans in the writing. But like, even if there isn't this, it's never the end of the adventure. One big question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 How do you get to the moon? Okay. I mean, you don't even know that you're going to the moon until sybil tells you totally it was you guys were talking to her about 15 minutes before he said oh where are we going by the way you're already in midair and you're like the moon the moon uh it was cool very cool dreamlands thing be like we're gonna fly to the moon it's amazing i love how these things really are and we've made the joke several times now how they really do feel like you would wake up and be like, I had the most bizarre dream. We were on two ships in the ocean and we had to get the guy's hat.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And then a dinosaur flew me to the moon. And then a dinosaur flew me to the moon. Very strange. a dinosaur flew me to the moon and then a dinosaur flew me to the moon yeah well that's why i i mentioned the moon right when you guys came back that it was night and i kind of foreshadowed the moon early on and i was just so excited to tell you guys that you were going to the moon yeah it's just really cool but they did bake in time here to rest which i found very interesting and i'll be honest a little bit like like i went a little cross-eyed because I'm like, we're already dreaming. So we're resting within a dream.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And this is, you know, mechanically, it's to reset your abilities and stuff like that. But like narratively, it seems very strange, right? Like when have you been in a dream that you remember being like, I'm so tired, I have to sleep. And then you woke up in that dream still. You know what I mean? Like it is a very mind-breaking kind of thing. Yeah, don't think about it too much. I'll just think about it in pure mechanics.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It is just so that we can have all our spells to go into this – whatever this situation is, this huge building. So we shall see. But we are stupid very late this week. As I mentioned, Professor Eric, thank you so much for reviewing the episode. I kind of always feel bad when I send Professor Eric an episode that is just us role playing. It feels very strange because we're asking him to pick apart the rules and help us get better at remembering these things faster, keeping things cooking. And it feels so – I don't know how to put it, self-aggrandizing? I don't know what the word is, but just to be like, hey, listen to me and my friends improv-ing and making jokes for a while that has nothing to do
Starting point is 00:20:37 with the rules of Pathfinder. But thank you, Professor Eric, for putting in the time. Well, he was a fan first, so. There is one note, which is the old aid, the aid action, which we discussed and you brought up and you said. I'm not sure how it works in 2E. I don't know if these things stack. And according to Professor Eric, unlike first edition, aid does not stack. You use the highest bonus that you get from the multiple aids.
Starting point is 00:21:10 So everybody can roll, and then you use the highest bonus that you got, which is usually from a crit, which would be, well, I'm sorry, it was always from a crit, which would be a plus two bonus
Starting point is 00:21:20 to the triggering check. And if you're a master, it's plus three. If you're legendary, it's plus three. If you're legendary, it's plus four in the skill you used to aid. That is a cool rule that we have to keep in mind. Also, Eric points out, and I love this experience that he can add to this. Not only at our level, is it very unlikely that any of us would critically fail. It's almost impossible as long as the DC is 20 right now, because almost all of our abilities are going to be a 10 or higher to roll for.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Or you could always roll a natural one obviously. But the likelihood to crit is getting much more common. So if four people are rolling, there's actually a decent chance or three people I would say are rolling. There's actually a decent chance that you'll get a crit out of there and get a plus two to the aid check. So thank you, Eric, for mentioning that. And that is a good thing to keep in mind for future reference because we always want to aid, especially outside of combat. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So everyone should try and just take the best one. Right. Yeah, that was the only one this ep. And I've got nothing else uh it's a quick might be a quick fad today i don't know if you had something you wanted to bring up uh if you wanted to lay me on the carpet exposed before the nation again this week to talk about uh the things that i'm bad at personally well you know but i uh here's something we can talk about just to kind of juice up the fad this week i saw this comment on reddit last week and it was something that uh we had talked about and thought about for a long time and something that i still think about um they said the general
Starting point is 00:22:55 headline was side quest side sesh should be the the live show and uh and that's something we considered often of like, at a certain point, this live show may be too difficult to get into. Do you know what I mean? Like I do a pretty good I think I not patting myself on the back here, but I think I do a pretty good job of a recap at the beginning of the show that if you were there, even if you don't really know what's going on, you know enough to kind of fit, get into what we're doing. And if you're at all interested in this, I think you'll have a great time. We've seen countless people come up and be like, I had no idea what's going on and I loved it. But, you know, it is interesting thing because we did think we've tossed around the idea for a while of just doing modules or just having.
Starting point is 00:23:42 It's really hard to have each show be a one-off and have it be meaningful. That's what I wanted to get away from. I remember being on stage at the Beer Garden during our second – like before it was Glass Cannon Live when it was just GCP Live. Right. We did one at the Geekery. Then we did one at the Bohemian Hall Beer Garden in Queens and we had all these people come out for that. I remember I was on stage and I was like, this needs to be something different. I think it should be an adventure path. And I really like that we have done that.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It's been such a rich, wonderful story. And while there are plenty of people that don't enjoy it, there are way more people that really like it. But it is something I've thought about. I've seen a lot of those negative comments about Strange Aeons. And I don't – I will just personally say I don't get it. But it is something I've thought about. I've seen a lot of those negative comments about Strange Aeons and I don't, I will just personally say I don't get it. All of you people, you, I'm pointing to you, that has written in about how you don't like the story of Strange Aeons, I don't get it. I mean, I guess I get the like, I don't like how live shows are so rampant with like playing to the audience and making a lot of jokes and the audio doesn't sound as good.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like I get those, I get that. Yeah. But to say that we don't take the AP seriously or that we consider all of our characters to just be a joke is offensive to me. I'll say personally, because I love Atticus and I did not make Atticus as a joke. Like a character was made from the get go to be a legitimate character.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And I think he's got I think we've done really interesting dramatic scenes with him over time. I think that he has some real dark stuff in his past. And I really am interested in exploring what he was doing before he lost his memory. I want to know. Yeah. lost his memory. I want to know. And so, yeah, I'm super into it. And I urge you to think a little bit more and not get so wrapped up in the live show aspects, which of course, especially in the earlier days, were just so silly and fun for us. It doesn't mean we didn't take the adventure seriously. That's all I'm saying. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it's just a
Starting point is 00:25:41 different vibe. You know what I mean? Every show that we do, even if it's the same cast, like every show has its own vibe. Giant Slayer is very different from SideQuest, is very different from Glass Cannon Live, is very different from Raiders, is very different from, you know, Legacy. So, yeah, I don't know. But I have thought about this because at a certain point,
Starting point is 00:26:01 it never bothered me that like, oh, this is going to take eight or nine years to finish the adventure on the road. That never bothered me because I could just change my mind at any moment. That doesn't – I don't mind doing that. Sorry. That's just preposterous what you said. It would literally take us 25 years or more and I said that at the time. Dude, you say that but we're about to be halfway through the campaign.
Starting point is 00:26:22 At the time. At the time, it was going to – we were going to play once a month. Like that was sort of the pace. You know what I mean? Like, it has evolved over time and become, you know, a weekly show. But before that, before marathons, it was like, it was going to take 20 years. Giant Slayer took seven. And we played every week.
Starting point is 00:26:38 That's true. That's true. Even with the COVID break, we're on par for about eight to ten years. And AP is a strange choice. I think that the side quest side quest thing is I'll let you talk about it more but I think we have talked about it as a very interesting in between because what you have is shorter form
Starting point is 00:26:52 stories but you maintain the characters. As long as the characters keep coming back I think you can have those stakes that you want to have. That's why we can't always do one shots. They just don't work. We can't create new characters every time. It's so draining. I've also considered
Starting point is 00:27:07 having each show be you never know what you're going to get. You show up and all of a sudden it's a Call of Cthulhu game or you show up and it's a Delta Green game. But that's tricky too and difficult to market because I think then people can be like, I'm not really interested in that and they otherwise would go. So that's tricky as well.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I think that there's a happy medium somewhere there, somewhere in there. But the real problem I have is like, even if I were to pivot, which I, I am definitely considering, uh, when I look to the future, uh, I would feel bad not finishing strange aeons and, uh, as a gamer, not as a businessman. And so it's hard to separate those things sometimes. sometimes um maybe less hard for me but like i do i would feel bad not finishing that and there's really no other way to finish it with our uh our content plans right now let alone our content plans for the next couple years and that's a bummer but that's also not a good reason to keep doing it if it's not working. Right now, I think it's working. However, if we get to a point where it becomes untenable,
Starting point is 00:28:11 that would be a bummer. Everyone's bummed about Raiders not coming back. I mean, who knows what the future will hold for Raiders. But Raiders has an ending, though. It feels like it had an ending, kind of like, I want another season. Well, who knows what's going to happen someday. I think with Strange Ions, it would be a real bummer. I feel like it'd be kind of a slap in the face to Strange Ions and to everything we've done. But it's also the nature of business. Things change, plans change, and you have to be willing as an entrepreneur to change it if it's not working. Do you think that it is suffering specifically from the conversion to 2E? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Absolutely. I don't regret that decision because I think it was the right – I know it was the right decision for us. We needed to learn 2E. I wanted to do something so that people who knew strange ions could get a fresh take on it. But the conversion – and there's nothing against Ron who did a phenomenal job. It's just it was an AP that was built for first edition.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And when you convert it, you have to take new things into mind. So I'm going to be working diligently with the writer who's converting book four. But I don't know. It served its purpose and I'm glad we did it I would not have stayed at first edition because at a certain point especially where you guys are getting it's just going to be unlistenable
Starting point is 00:29:34 to in a live setting if you have got 17 attacks it just doesn't work it works fine for a podcast it doesn't work for a live show experience you know and that's something we're still struggling with with 2e is like how do you make 2't work for a live show experience. You know, and that's something we're still struggling with with 2E is like, how do you make 2E pop for a live show experience?
Starting point is 00:29:50 But I do think it's easier than high level 1E. So I'm glad we made the change, but I don't know, it's a lot when I see that, I'm like, that's interesting because we have talked about that. I don't know if I'd bring back side quest, side sesh per se, but sort of modular play where it's like over a a weekend you might see uh two parts of a 10 part adventure
Starting point is 00:30:10 and then we start a new adventure instead of doing something that's going to take eight to ten i mean it could also be each year yeah like a module could be 15 shows right so it's like you do like over this, we're playing this module on tour. That's the tour. And you know Philly is going to be the conclusion every year. Right, exactly. And it's the same characters. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:36 So you do like one, maybe two levels of an adventure through the course of a tour of a year. And then the characters move on to the next adventure. I've always liked that modular play, because that's how I always played when I was a kid. Like, I don't, we never played, like, one long campaign. Giant Slayer was by far the longest campaign I've ever played. Or will ever play. Or will ever play.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And it's the idea of characters, like like taking on a job, right? And then you do that adventure and you level up to third level and then you take on a third level job, adventure, different city. It's fun and exciting for me. That's why I loved SideQuest SideSesh. It's like to get involved in such different themes, entirely different themes from module to modules. Very cool. Yeah. And you know, the one of the issues is with 2e, there's not a lot of modules. You know, I had so many modules to pick from when we started side quest side sesh, I could really pick and choose the ones that I thought would be best for us. And with PFS, I just don't think PFS has quite the, it doesn't have the same consistency
Starting point is 00:31:47 to be able to pull off, I think, long-term things. PFSs are great for one and two offs. But, you know, if you need to do 12 shows, that's six PFSs. I don't know. I feel like it would be tricky to find six that I was obsessed with, like I was the three modules we did for SideQuest, SideSesh. Honestly, if I had done a fourth SideQuest, SideSesh, I might have been kind of painted into a corner on where to go next because I read a lot of modules before I found ones that I really, really liked.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But also, that's not a good excuse. It'll be interesting because at Gen Con this year, we're going to be doing Glass Cannon Live. We haven't done the on sale yet, but we're going to be doing Glass Cannon Live. We haven't done the on sale yet. But we're going to be doing another show outside of the con, in addition to everything that we're doing at the con. And it's going to be something different. It's not going to be Glass Cannon Live. And so we've been thinking a lot about what that's going to be.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And discussions like this really sort of make it even more complicated for me to decide what that show is going to be. But it is interesting. I don't know. 2023, the plan is to stay with Strange Aeons. And, you know, book four, there's a chance we start book four this year. And so I would like to do that. But it'll be interesting to see what the future holds because I do love Strange Aeons and I would hate to not finish it. Agreed. Okay. We'll wrap it up there thank you guys so much for hanging out with us for a little
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