The Glass Cannon Podcast - Cannon Fodder 5/10/23

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

Fodder is on the road this week as Joe and Troy record from a strangely dark hotel room in LA. Topics include the confidential reason for their west coast trip, the next major update on the new studio..., and their current event schedule for Gen Con 2023. In We Are Stupid, they'll discuss why Joe was wrong for the right reasons (or maybe right for the wrong reasons?). You decide! For more podcasts and livestreams, visit glasscannonnetwork.com and for exclusive content and benefits, subscribe today at patreon.com/glasscannon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:36 It is Wednesday, May 10th, 2023. And I'm your good buddy, Joe O'Brien. And I'm Troy. You sound terrible. You sound worse. You sound worse you sound worse what is up nash you are getting uh troy and joe from the road little fad from the road but we're doing it upright i think this is going to sound freaking great yeah we brought our mics and we're recording this in our hotel room in a little place called ho, California. Maybe you've heard of it. Hollywood, California.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Dude, this is really, really early to get out here for our June 29th Terragram Ballroom Show. Yeah, we messed up. We got the wrong... What are we going to do? Stay out here for a month? Stay out here for a month? We're going to make it in the pictures. I know a guy.
Starting point is 00:02:26 You got a guy. You got a guy. You got a guy everywhere, LaValle. Yep. He says if I just give him three installments of $50,000, he's going to make me a star. He's got honest eyes. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, we're doing Cannon Fodder from the road here, but it's going to be a full FOD, because we've got a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We've got a lot going on, a lot of news, including why we're in LA. We'll mention that. We've got a big studio update this week. Juicy studio update. And yeah, we're going to talk Gen Con 2023 again, because we're going to get you more specifics. If you're interested in going, there are going to be some really good details coming down the pike here. And then, of course, we're stupid every week, Troy. We got to do a little We Are Stupid at the end of the show to talk about strange aeons.
Starting point is 00:03:14 But kicking it off, what on earth are we doing in Hollywood, California? Well, no, I'm excited we're doing this. I'm glad this is way more fun than having fun in L.A. sitting in this dark hotel room recording the show. It is oddly dark. I just turned up the lights, but hotels are weird with lighting. They're like, let's put a light in the hallway near the door and one far, far away from the beds.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Got to light up the room. This is a really nice hotel, and we just had breakfast, a very late breakfast on the roof and i got shakshuka and it's not sitting well with me oh dear yeah it's it's just it feels like it's resting right above my intestines and just burning a hole through them so are you saying we need to keep this fog quick keep it tight i'm just saying i i regret it i regret eating it you're forgetting the shakshuka. Literally, Troy orders – I order – wait for this – the breakfast sandwich.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm like, I'll take the breakfast sandwich. Thank you. Bacon, eggs on a croissant. It's a French place. And then he leans over to Troy. Troy goes, I'll have the shakshuka. And he leans down again and says, the shakshuka? And Troy said, yeah. And he leans down again and says, the shakshuka? And Drew said, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And he went, sure. Just like that. And I was like, I don't think anybody orders the shakshuka here. He clearly had never heard of it. And he was like, oh, the shimshava coming right up. And then he probably went to the manager, what's the shimshava? And they had a 40-minute conversation. I think he means the shakshuka.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Oh, we even make that? It was delicious, though. I always think of Sidney in Androids and think he means the shakshuka. Oh, we even make that? It was delicious though. I always think of Sydney and androids and aliens talking about shakshuka. She was like, I make shakshuka. I was like, what the hell is shakshuka? I was like, I've never heard that word in my life before.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Get to the point. Why are we here? Well, we've been talking, I've talked about it on my content videos. I think we've even mentioned that you and I were coming out here. We came out here to shoot a television show and I don't know how much we're really allowed to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:05:07 even though I very clearly retweeted something last week about people looking for a studio audience. And some people answered the call. There were definitely Niche members in the audience. But, yeah, we came out here to shoot a television show in the realm of tabletop gaming. As guests. As guests.
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's not our television show. It's not our television show in the realm of tabletop gaming. As guests. As guests. It's not our television show. It's not our television show. Yeah, we've made some really cool friends along the way. And a couple months ago, one of those friends called me up and we started talking. And yeah, I got to be a player in one episode. And then I got to host another episode. And Joe was on that episode with some other friends. And again, I don't want to spoil too much because I think they'll,
Starting point is 00:05:46 uh, they'll advertise it when they're ready. And, you know, until I see more things on social media about, uh, how public they are, uh,
Starting point is 00:05:53 with it, I don't want to be too, too forthcoming. However, I will say yesterday was a, a, a special memorable day that will go down in the, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:03 anals. I think it's, it's pronounced anals. It's pronounced anals. I'm pretty sure it's anals in the anals of my life history. It really was a special day and I'm so glad I got to share it with you. Yeah, it was great.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It was great. And some other really good friends without, without spoiling anything, a lot of, uh, uh, GCN West representing. So it was,
Starting point is 00:06:20 it was fantastic. And, uh, yeah, uh, we'll stop talking about a thing that we cannot give you more details on. But this is a quick trip. We're in and out.
Starting point is 00:06:27 We're leaving tomorrow. Back to New York and back to work in the studio. We are looking at next week, we will be the entire cast in the studio at a table under the lights working. Yeah, and you said that to me at breakfast. And I said, there's no way that's happening. And you said, no, that's the day we booked out.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I'm like, I thought it was still March. I wasn't even joking. That third kid really did you in. I don't, I feel very tired still. I'm a little jet lagged, and of course, there was so much stress leading up to the shoot yesterday that you and I went out and had what felt like 44 beers. Whiskey.
Starting point is 00:07:06 When it was over, it was like, let's just go get a beer. All our LA friends came out. Jared Logan, Paula Deming, Mary Lou, Jason Charles Miller. We were just hanging out. And obviously, we overdid it. And so now I feel like garbage. But now we also have a lunch with our new agents in like an hour and a half.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So there's just a lot going on. Yeah, we have to record next week. We have to record next week. And really what we're in there for is practice. Practice is an important thing. We're not necessarily starting the campaign in earnest next week, but we will be shooting ourselves around the table, doing blocking, doing positioning, lighting. And it's important that everybody gets in there to do that. So it's a part of the process that we'd love to be able to just skip, but it would make a worse final product.
Starting point is 00:07:55 But yeah, this week is a huge week, and I have to give such a thank you. Because while you and I are out here hanging out with Jared Logan and Mary Lou and Paula Deming and Jason Charles Miller, and I are out here hanging out with Jared Logan and Mary Lou and Paula Deming and Jason Charles Miller. We are neglecting our hands-on duties to build out this studio. And our good friends, CJ and Francis, are back there crushing it right now, along with the lighting professionals that we have brought in to work on this. So yeah, people are back in the studio working and putting the whole system together while we're out here. And we're very thankful for them. Couldn't do it without them. So thank you, CJ. Thank you, Francis. And I can't wait to get back and see how it's all looking. And then this week, you and I are going in.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Friday. Dermot's grabbing a U-Haul. We're hauling a bunch of stuff up there. This is a very big week. This is like one of the final weeks of studio prep. It's about to be done and we're about to start shooting in earnest. So, very excited. It's pretty exciting. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited to get in there on Monday and just like get everybody in there. I don't care if we have three of these dates where we're just all in the room together preparing. I'd love to put it off as long as possible because we need to get in the room and we need to feel it out so that once we start recording, we're good to go. And all we're thinking about is our characters and the game.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah. I don't want to be sitting there worried about audio buzz or the angle of a light or the background of a certain cloth. I just want all that stuff to be squared away. And the only way to do that is to dress rehearsal. We have to do a lot of dress rehearsals. So that's what's coming up now. And yeah, it's a good thing. It is a good thing. And it was a little bit delayed. A lot of a lot of crazy stuff that happened, including I don't know if I mentioned this on the spot. And I'm not going to go into details. But the glass cannon network was the victim of a crime. We're gonna talk about, about i'm not gonna go into any details
Starting point is 00:09:45 but like one of the reasons for the delay is we actually got frauded by a contractor it was a legit fucking shady criminal freaking fraud uh that i've never had happen in my life i've i've people you know i'm sure everybody's got a story about a bad contractor like i don't think that that's uh too new but for a person to actually take your money and vanish is pretty rare. And what was it? Like three grand, right? Three grand. It's just stolen.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Just a deposit. And now we have to sue him? We have to go to small claims court in Queens. Oh, gross. And they know this. They're like, ah, nobody's going to chase us, do all that shit. It's more work for us. It'll probably cost us more money to try to get that three grand back.
Starting point is 00:10:25 100%. That's what small claims court is all about. It's like you go in representing yourself and just talk to somebody about a small amount. It's like under 10 grand. Anyway, I don't want to get into it. You're making it sound like it's worth it to just steal money from people every once in a while. It sounds like I'm selling. Just steal a few grand from somebody because no one's going to chase you down.
Starting point is 00:10:41 It's more work. Well, you know, I think people might chase you down if uh you're not in new york city and you're not uh you don't have a major show that's due to release in a month it's just insane to me that this person could get away with this like how they they they may not right but it just caused a delay like how could they in good conscience do this do you know what i mean like not only good conscience they'll never they won't be able to work again we're not the only ones, it turns out. This happened to multiple people in a quick stretch. And so you've demoed your business. You just blew it up. You'll never get work again. So it just seems like a strange decision for three mean? Which is just not enough to give up any future income.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Anyway. Gross. I was sad that we're behind schedule, but we are really getting back now quickly, and I'm happy about that. Let's talk about fun stuff. Gaming. Dude, we had some fun last week playing Star Wars with Rob.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Kirk, Evang, and Skid, and Matthew. So many laughs. Felt like the old days. It did. It felt like the old days. It was so much fun. And we're continuing this week. So if you missed Star Wars last week, check it out on Twitch VOD.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And we pick up where we left off last week. Tomorrow, Thursday, the 11th at twitch.tv slash theglasscanon. 2 o'clock Eastern Time. Labs is happening. And then what about the week after? Is there a Labs the week after is there a lapse the week after um there should be but i don't think i've booked it wait aren't you coming back with alien i don't know is that still happening i don't know that's what i have in here or did
Starting point is 00:12:14 you guys wait what was that game that matthew ran uh trophy dark he finished that he finished that one all right so i think i had you for is it alien if you're not ready that's fine i might be ready we'll see how uh we'll see how the studio build-out goes. But yeah, I'd love to. I was hanging out with Mary Lou yesterday talking some Alien, and she's fired up about it. And so yeah, I'd love to get back in and do more of that. Talk to me about
Starting point is 00:12:35 Gen Con 2023. We've mentioned it before. We gave you guys some teases. Then we told you really what shows were coming down the pipe. But now I think we have a little bit better idea of the actual schedule. So we want to tell people dates and times and stuff like that so you can start building your Gen Con calendar if you are going to attend in Indy this year. Yeah, because Gen Con, I think on Sunday, they released the events calendar. And you're going to be able to start signing up for those events probably by like next week or the week after
Starting point is 00:13:05 maybe yeah i think it happens like two weeks after the events i think the schedule released and now there's a little bit of time for you to absorb the official gen con event calendar event schedule and then you have to start booking events right so it's our goal to have our tickets for our non-gen con shows available uh least the same day, if not before. Ideally before, because what will happen is if the Gen Con event thing is you can start buying tickets before we've released tickets to our outside shows, people might start buying tickets to shit and then not be able to come to our outside shows. So we're working on that. There's just a lot going on, but let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:13:42 We're going to have the booth on the floor, and there's going to be content from when the showroom floor opens at 9, 10 a.m. every day. Until sunset. Until sunset. That was what the menu upstairs said. Joe got a kick out of that. I love how the lunch says 11 a.m. to sunset. But yeah, it's going to be, whatever, 9
Starting point is 00:13:59 to 6 every single day, and I think it closes at 4 on Sunday. There's going to be content coming from there. Open to close, just like we did last year. In addition, on Friday at 11 a.m. at Gen Con,
Starting point is 00:14:12 we're gonna be playing a modern Call of Cthulhu game live. It's similar to like what we did with Seth Skorkowski. Unfortunately, Seth's not gonna be there. I haven't even rounded out the cast yet, but that's gonna be really fun. I mean, that is going to be a must see.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm sure we'll sell it out because it's worth a new show. They gave us like a 250-seater as opposed to a 500 or whatever or a 400. So that one hopefully will sell out Friday, 11 a.m. Saturday, 5 p.m., we're doing Blades in the Dark live. The Busted Mufflers are back. Busted Mufflers, dude! It's basically like primetime, Saturday, 5pm. So you can watch that and then still
Starting point is 00:14:47 have your whole night to go get crunk! And that's... What are you talking about? I think that one is a 400-seater, and that one might actually be streamed on the Gen Con channel. I get the sense, based on the room that it's in, that that one's going to be streamed on the Gen Con channel,
Starting point is 00:15:04 whereas the Modern Call of Cthulhu game, the only way you'll be able to see it is if you watch it live. That will be the only time that it ever appears, I believe. And then in addition to that, first night of the con, Thursday night, we're going to be doing a Glass Cannon live show at Helium Comedy Club. Again, we do it every year. We usually do two. This year we're not doing two because we're doing something else the night after. Friday, 8 p.m., we're going to be doing a show at a theater that's a little bit further away from the con, I don't know, 10 minutes away, called the Athenium. And this is a much bigger theater than we're used to playing. And it's going to be a whole new live show experience.
Starting point is 00:15:43 The tickets will be probably like $, 20 bucks to get in. A lot cheaper because we want to get new people interested in what we do. And it's hard to have people just come to a show that's episode 77. You know, that's for the super fans. I think we do a pretty good job of recapping, but we want to try something else. And I'm still not a thousand percent sure what we're going to do, but I was until yesterday. And then I had a conversation with someone. I're going to do, but I was until yesterday.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And then I had a conversation with someone. I'm like, Hmm, maybe I should rethink this. But anyways, that is going to be a, a, a once in a lifetime show that I hope people will come to as well.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So make sure you mark your calendar for Thursday at 8 PM and Friday at 8 PM. We're going to be doing shows outside of the con and then get your tickets Friday, 11 AM. Modern call of Cthulhu live. Saturday, 5 p.m. Blades in the Dark. Busted Mufflers live. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Wait, am I catching this? Wait. Oh, oh, oh. Wait. Saturday, Busted Mufflers, 5 p.m. Yeah. And then we're done. Yeah, then it's party time. When are our outside of the con shows?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Thursday and Friday. Thursday and Friday. Okay, not Saturday. So we have two shows Friday. We've got Modern Call of Cthulhu at 11 a.m. And then we've got a show at the Athenium that night. Whoa. With a ton of booth content in the middle.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That's going to be a... I mean, this is the thing. It's like, you know, I understand people, some people were upset last year. Like, I wish they were around the booth more. I don't think you understand, like, how strung out we are at these things. Because you and I are also taking meetings left and right. Like, squeezing in meetings. There's so much going on.
Starting point is 00:17:07 We're going to try and have more dedicated time for us to be at the booth, to be able to actually talk to people. It's just really, really hard. Me in particular, and you too, Joe. We just have a lot going on. It's hard to just be there to shake hands and sign chests.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Sign a lot of dudes' chests. Sign a lot of dudes' chests. Sign a lot of man chests at Gen Con. Yep, well, that'll do it. Hopefully that gives everybody an idea of how to shake out and schedule your Gen Con. Let's talk. Oh, I'm sorry. I have one more thing that I forgot about. We have another event that is under our banner.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Friday at 6. P.M. Jared Logan is going to be doing standup. Uh, he's doing a standup special called charisma is my dump stat. Uh, so he is, uh,
Starting point is 00:17:57 that's happening Friday at 6. P.M. So man, you got to come Friday morning to watch us do modern call it Cthulhu and then watch the booth content all day. Then go see Jared at 6. Then hop on over to the Athenium to watch us do this new live show experience. This is just amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. So a part of hanging out with our L.A. friends out here yesterday was Gen Con came up multiple times and we were not the ones bringing it up. People being like, you guys going to Gen Con? Because I think I'm going to be out there. Let's start doing stuff. And yeah, we're just already talking to everybody about slotting in for great shows out of the booth. And it's just going to be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I mean, last year, we threw that thing together at the very, very last minute. And I think that it was a huge success. And so for this year to have a little bit more time to plan it, I think it's going to be even better. So join us there. Moving on to our episode this week, and we are stupid. Before I get into the rules, let me first just ask you about the episode in general has something that I always love to come across as a GM,
Starting point is 00:18:57 which is a full-on con, right? Like a fake, where we come up into this room, and there is a woman there, who seems to be, you know, just a janitor, a janitor, right? Like a worker in the prison. And this isn't someone that you would, you would want to harm. It's not her fault that she has to have this job in this particular place where you're trying to take out the warden of this ward of this side of the prison. And so talk to me about how this works for you as a GM in terms of preparing to unleash the secret. How do you do it? When do you like to reveal it? Did you have any goals in this particular scenario, such as, did you want the players all to be in a certain position before
Starting point is 00:19:44 you reveal yourself? Did you try? You yourself? What were you thinking before we actually started playing it about how you'd love to spring the trap? Yeah. So I always try to, when I know it's going to be someone that is going to flip the tables, I really try to play it up like this is an innocent person. Because I think no matter what I do, the players are always going to be like, this is an evil person that's going to do something bad. So you have to really make them believe, at least create the doubt in their
Starting point is 00:20:12 mind. Reasonable doubt. Right, and so that has to do with a lot of listening to how the players react. If there's something that they, as you start talking to each other, if you're like, it sounds like it's just like a janner. I'm like, okay, I think I've got them.
Starting point is 00:20:26 At least I've planted that seed of doubt. So let's start drawing them into the room. You know, I know that we've got the trap of these beds. I know what this creature can eventually do. So I want to draw you closer because that's going to work better for the narrative. So I also want to like try and catch as many of you as possible in the various traps and abilities. So I'm trying to ask things like,
Starting point is 00:20:52 you want to be like, now where's everybody standing without saying that? Because why does it matter where everybody's standing? So you have to find other ways around that. It really is a game of poker. If Aldo's like, I start talking, I of poker. You know, if Aldo's like, I start talking, I'm like, all right, cool. So are you like walking into the room? You know, you have to, you have to like phrase things in a way that doesn't ask about positioning.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, because Skid, I would say, and Matthew, I think are both the most guilty in my eyes. Others, potentially, but those two, I think are the most guilty of saying that they're doing things and not moving their pawn. Right. You know, like their pawn stays behind. And so maybe that's just... Maybe it's just they don't really care about the map and they're not focused on it. And that's totally a reasonable explanation. I am always focused on the map and the grid, like at all times. Maybe though, they're just leaving certain outs for plausible deniability. Well, I said that from back there.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Whatever it is. And so, yeah, it's tough because you don't want to reveal the trap by being like, so, where are you standing? And I'm also like, I have no qualms with just moving pawns. I'll be like, alright, great. So you moved up here and you're talking to them. But you have to be careful about doing that, too.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I'm like, well, I didn't say that I moved up there. I'm like, well, you kind of did, but let's not worry about it. It's not that important. Yeah. It really is a game of poker and chess while also trying to improv and like,
Starting point is 00:22:17 make sure that you're not giving away the secret until it's time to give away the secret. And what was cool about this one is like the conversation with her started very like, Oh, it's just a Jan or she's just working here oh i hope i'm so mad about this prison civil war and then it's like it turns to isn't this machine cool that i'm working on let me explain what it does and then she's keeping that same tone and demeanor as she explains this horrible machine horrible thing and then starts talking about how they just used it on someone named Alaric. And now you're drawing Sidney.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Snap Suki out of it. But her tone has never changed. It's just the information that she's revealing is letting you know that she's dark. And to me, that's proper execution of horror, of that kind of horror. It's like this being something that is just so casual to someone. It's so disturbing. I do want to applaud Skid, though, because I really liked how we came up there with the invisibility sphere. We could have been locked down in whispery conversation for 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah. And I love how Skid just didn't hesitate, just walked out of the sphere. It was just like, hello. What's your name? And Sidney, too. Sidney was like, she. What's your name? And Sidney, too. Sidney was like, she's heard enough. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And just stepped out. Let's go. Let's dance. But it did put us in a better position for what I believe will be an unwinnable fight. But at least we had a decent starting position because so many of us had cover and were back away from the tables. The tables, which like whatever come to life, the belts or whatever it is, and grab Aldo. So I don't want to tip my hand too much. I got the GM here, but I've got plans.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I've got plans. I think Aldo's going to be just fine. You didn't sound like you had plans. You sound like you were checked out immediately when someone missed with a 29. Dude, that is unacceptable. That is so ridiculous. You get so mad. You're like, well, why are we even doing this? Not someone. Ethel, like the guy that we need to hit. He's going to have to roll a natural 20 vorpal. Is that the only way we're going to get this thing done? It is a terrifying fight. But also, the thing that bothers me the most about
Starting point is 00:24:25 it is, and it doesn't, it bothers me and it doesn't bother me. What doesn't bother me is this impossible, unwinnable fight. And I truly am kind of believe that is it's in the dreamlands again, right? So it's not like we actually die, even if we TPK, we're just going to wake up. But you have this real legitimate problem of how do we get back here? I don't know that it's just praying at the staircase again, walking back into the prison again with no other repercussions. I feel like that there's going to be severe repercussions. But I also think like, how can the story even advance? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Because we're trying to get to the one guy that can advance our story. So it's really – it's an interesting conundrum. I feel like it could very, very well be a TPK, and this is meta, but I think you're gonna have to do some tap dancing if there's a real TPK here. I think you're gonna have to make stuff up and get us out of a jam by just giving us stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:19 That's my guess. When we finish this book, I'd love to give more insight into like what the book offers and what it doesn't offer. Cause if I say too much now, like it's clear what I'm making up and it's clear what I'm not making up. And I think it'd be better. Like as when we wrap up book three for me to go through,
Starting point is 00:25:35 like, all right, let me tell you actually now what was in there and what wasn't in there. We should do that on the FOD. Yeah. We'll do that on the FOD. Now I don't want to tip my hand to that, but I will say it's weighing heavily on me.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yes, yes. Either way. I can tell in your sunken eyes. And yeah. And all right. Well, then let's talk about a couple quick rule things, and then we'll get out of here. One is a small thing that I honestly didn't know, because I don't look at the book enough, like really look at it.
Starting point is 00:26:03 because I don't look at the book enough, like really look at it. But I think I mentioned offhand in the episode that somebody was doing an interact action and it was about like provoking an AOO and I said something along the lines of like, no, a manipulate action sets off an AOO. Just to manipulate or moving out of a threatened square or casting a spell.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I think you corrected me. And manipulate's a trait, right? Yes. Manipulate is a trait that the interact action has. It's so funny. You're so confident, though. I'm like, yeah, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, no, I am right that it's anything that is manipulate, I think. I mean, I think manipulate's an action, right? You're right for the wrong reasons, right? No, no. I was wrong. I was wrong for the right reasons. You're right for the wrong reasons, right? No, no, I was wrong. I was wrong for the right reasons. You were wrong for the right reasons. I certainly wasn't trying to sneak out of something.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Right, right, of course. I thought that they meant what they said. They meant that this kind of thing does provoke and this kind of thing doesn't. And they do mean that, except that Interact has the manipulate trait, which I just did not realize. And we said this so many times on FOD.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Like, you have to look at the traits every time. But I fall into that trap of like, oh, well, that's Interact. I know Interact. We've used that a thousand times. It doesn't mean you know it. You know what I mean? Like, go back and re-look at the ones that you think you know. Such as the escape action.
Starting point is 00:27:23 This is an interesting one. Oh, yeah. In my opinion. This is an action that I've obviously looked at and read before. I sort of just, but I just read the fine print. I didn't look at the traits and realize that the escape action has the attack traits. So big shout out to Professor Eric, who pointed out, and this is all Professor Eric sort of deducing based on the flow of the show, that this is not like a blatant rule we got wrong. He suspects we got it wrong, and he must be right, which is he suspected that Suki's escape attempt did not take the multiple attack penalty, which it would have had to do because escape has the attack trait. In fact, it's the only trait escape has, is attack. It's's surprising to me but uh i kind of get it i kind of get why it's kind of getting lumped into that yeah because it's kind of attacking i'm attacking this net that i'm caught in
Starting point is 00:28:16 but yeah so he he deduced that suki uh slash Aldo, while attempting to escape, did not consider the multiple attack penalty because in order to roll that high, they probably would have had to have a very, very high roll that would have probably elicited a response such as natural 20 or something like that. So failing that, it that uh we weren't accurately factoring in the map so that's good to know uh in general yeah um you know we always look at the traits we just got to keep getting ingrained on that and when we we have a more cogent system for you know how we're going to do maps and character creation software this is all going to get a lot easier right now it, it's spread out a little too much. You guys are using one program. Kate's using another.
Starting point is 00:29:09 We're in between. Yeah, we're going to get on the same page in Gatewalkers. I also plan to use some of the physical cards and stuff like that. I really want to use those at our table for conditions and stuff. Because you can put it on your character sheet with our character creation software and just like set it forget it it'll do all the
Starting point is 00:29:29 numbers for you all that's great but actually it gets out of sight so even though your numbers might be right in some situations you might not know why they're right and you might not be factoring in like a movement penalty or something that isn't factored in, like you can't move or whatever. And you could also have a penalty on that you're not supposed to have, that you forgot to take off. To me, there's nothing worse than like, all right, say I, this used to happen more in Pathfinder 1 than 2, but like you gain the frightened condition, right?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Or you're grappled. Grappled always happened, right? And then we would like end a show, a live show. And we're like, I will see you in Santa Monica or whatever. And then, you know, you just put, you close your hero lab down and then you walk away. Then you come to that next show and we're three rounds
Starting point is 00:30:16 into the next combat and someone rolls a miss. Ah, I missed. And you missed by like one. Yeah. Okay. And then like someone else's turn goes and they're like, oh, God, I still have grappled on. All of these attacks would have hit. And it's like, well, I'm not giving the last two, but I guess I have to give you the one from two minutes ago. It's just messy and sloppy and gross.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So, yeah. What did I roll? What did I say I rolled? Was it 22? Was it a 17? 23? Yeah, it's brutal. It's so messy.
Starting point is 00:30:45 But I mean, these are the traps of virtual character sheets, right? Yeah. These are the things that tend to happen occasionally. But hopefully having those physical cards, I really like that idea of being like, boom, there you go. You're frightened. And it sits right in front of your space, right on top of your laptop. And you'll remember it. And when it's gone, you will toss it away.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And you will remember it to pull it off your sheet and all that stuff. and you'll remember it. And when it's gone, you will toss it away, and you will remember it to pull it off your sheet and all that stuff. So little things like that I think will speed up the game and help make it fun, too, to just kind of have those little physical things in person, the tactile sort of experience is going to be great to get back to. Yeah, you know, and Gay Walkers is going to be fully edited, both the audio and the video, which is great.
Starting point is 00:31:22 We're going to go back to that tight, tight content. However, we still want to streamline our experience at the table. Even though it's going to be edited, we want everything to be more streamlined. It's going to be a lot easier going back to first level, but still, anything we can do to help just kind of smooth the process out of playing. So like you said earlier, we're just focusing on the characters. We're just focusing on storytelling and improv. Get all this other stuff out of the way without taking out the way the experience that we enjoy. There's stuff I'd love to automate. I'd love to just automate conditional damage and flat checks, and I may do that.
Starting point is 00:31:58 But I also don't want to take that power out of people's hands if they want to do it. It's a fine line to walk. You have a responsibility. If you don't want that stuff to be automated and you want to roll it, then you need to remember it. Right. And you need to execute it quickly. You know, you just got to do it fast.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Right. If you don't, you're getting benched and the software is taking your place. It's a very different rhythm, 2E to 1E. You know what I mean? I think it's a rhythm we're still getting in our bodies. Like 1e combat, we kind of had down, but if you think about it, the rhythm of
Starting point is 00:32:29 the 2e game is just a different rhythm. There's a lot of extra little homework that you need to do after each turn, and that's why I'm glad that we, anytime I'm like, oh man, or if we ever lament the conversion to 2e for Strange Aeons, I'm always pro what we did because of this practice that we've got with it.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just interesting, the little things like Frightened, you mentioned earlier. And Frightened isn't the only one. I think this concept is really neat that there are conditions that reduce over time automatically. I think that's really cool, but it's also harder to track. It makes the accounting work a little bit more when you're distracted by a lot of other things like doing a show and everything.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But I love the game mechanic and the concept. We just have to remember it so that it's something we don't even think about. It's just so easy for us to remember how these things work and flow. And we'll get there. We'll get there. For sure.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Well, I'm going to wrap it up, buddy. I think, like you said, we got to go to a meeting, but we're glad we got a little side time with the niche. I'm glad that we had talked about maybe not getting this FOD out this week. And I was like, no, I'm going to pack gear, and I'll take it in the suitcase and bring it out there, because it's good to have this time to reconnect with everybody. And I was just so excited about the progress we're making in the studio this week that I wanted to share it with the niche.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So thank you guys so much for listening, for hanging out with us. Remember, Degenerate Dungeon is on tonight. The Dungeon! 10 o'clock Eastern Time live on twitch.tv slash GCN Employee Lounge. And then, of course, tomorrow night, you've got Strange Aeons live. Oh, but I skipped over Star Wars. Don't forget. Tomorrow, Star Wars live at 2 o'clock Eastern.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And then at 8 o'clock Eastern on twitch.tv slash The Glass Cannon, you've got the continuation of Strange Aeons. Episode 75, dude. Crazy. 75 eps of the Strange Aeons campaign. I'll tell you what. The days of Strange Aeons on Twitch are numbered. It's going to be going back to the tour show only once Gatewalkers launches.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Things are happening, getting in the studio. But right now I need to go shock shuka my pants. All right, with that, I'm getting as far away from him as I can. Goodbye, everybody. Have a good week. We'll see you next week. Bye.
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