The Glass Cannon Podcast - Strange Aeons Episode 75 – Meat Cute
Episode Date: May 16, 2023A janitor in disguise may derail the party's entire mission. Join Troy Lavallee, Joe O'Brien, Skid Maher, Matthew Capodicasa, Sydney Amanuel and Kate Stamas as they tour the country playing the Lovec...raftian Horror Strange Aeons Pathfinder Adventure Path. Watch the video here: https://youtu.be/uN-MaSEKybo For more podcasts and livestreams, visit glasscannonnetwork.com and for exclusive content and benefits, subscribe today at patreon.com/glasscannon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Even though we're not live, who cares?
That's the name of the show.
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Or if you're listening to it as a podcast
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It's very live to us, it's very real
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Even though it's not live
Couldn't be any more live Live to tape Before we get to or gives these backsies. This is as live as it gets, even though it's not live.
Couldn't be any more live.
Live to tape.
Before we get to some classic glass cannon banter,
had a funny anecdote that I thought you,
at least you guys would enjoy,
or maybe the fans will enjoy.
I don't really care.
My oldest, Archer, is in preschool, you know, and they had a circle this morning, like with all the kids. And they went around the circle and the kids had to say what they wanted to do when they grew up.
Like either what they wanted to do when they grew up or like, you know, talking about the future.
Like, what's the future look like?
And my son, you know know takes after my wife and is
very good looking and
he's very charismatic
and so they went to
a couple of the girls and one of the girls is like
like Susie what do you want to
do when you grow up she's like I want to marry
Archer
right and
and so Archer's next
and they like oh you want to to marry all right calm down uh
archer what do you want to do do you accept archer and archer what do you want to do and he goes
i want to have a goblin sword in kindergarten
it's just my favorite and then that little girl that little girl looks across
sighs and says i'll change him or maybe she'll take this opportunity to learn that men don't
change i want to have a goblin sword in kindergarten i still just want a goblin sword
that's all i need check check in with archer in 25 years he's like i want a goblin sword. That's all I need. Check in with Archer in 25 years. He's like, I want a goblin sword for my 26th birthday.
He's a 21-year-old.
That would have been better in kindergarten, but I'll still take it.
Better late than never.
If she had said, do you mean a dog slicer?
Then he should have married her on the spot.
That's the more accurate way.
I think you mean a dog slicer.
I think you mean a dog slicer so that was my little anecdote here's the bant so i was uh i was on instagram before we went live
and uh it's flipping through and there's this uh it's brendan fraser in 1997 and an interviewer
is like that's peak peak Brendan Fraser, right?
Peak Fraser.
That's the mummy, right?
Yeah.
That's like –
Hot, hot.
He's a hot phrase, right?
Hot phrase.
1997.
Keep in mind the year, right?
And the interviewer is like –
It's like Gods and Monsters, I think.
It might be Gods and Monsters.
Ian McKellen.
I think it's Gods and Monsters at that point.
Yeah.
That's great.
Great.
I was working at Blockbuster.
I was like, oh, Gods and Monsters.
Brendan Fraser, 1997. The interviewer is like was like, oh, Gods and Monsters. Brendan Fraser, 1997, the interviewer's like.
It was right before Gods and Monsters.
He might have made it already, but yeah.
He was hot.
Well, this is going to let you know how hot he was.
1997, the interviewer is like, did you know, and she's got like, not an iPad because they didn't have iPads.
She's got like a printout.
She's like, did you know there's a website about you?
And his reaction is as pure as pure can be.
He's like, what?
Really?
Like megastar, you know, like top 10 stars.
And she shows him the website.
It's just a printout of the website.
And then they cut to B-roll of someone scanning through the website and it's just print a printout of the website. And then they cut to B roll of someone scanning through the website.
It's like just Brendan Fraser.
It's not even Brendan Fraser.com.
It's just like a website dedicated to Brandon Fraser.
On like geo cities or like angel fire.
Probably.
But like he was shocked that it existed.
And she was like,
can you believe it?
It was this it was this crazy little uh
exchange between the two of them and uh it really it really it really caught me i was like wow
1997 wasn't that long ago 1997 26 years ago it's the first time that i remember going to
a website like going to the internet and like to visit websites.
You guys remember any,
like,
like the first websites you would visit at that time?
I'm not talking about like chat rooms and stuff like that.
I'm talking about like,
like a website.
Cause one that stands out to me for whatever reason,
I mean,
you know,
I love TV.
I've always loved TV was hbo.com.
I thought it was like the coolest thing. It was like, you could put it in and it came up. And I remember it was like the coolest thing it was like you could put it in and it
came up and i remember it was like times square it was like the new york city skyline and they
had like the ads were kind of like the tv shows that were like on hbo but you you couldn't like
click on those things yet it was just like there would be like a list at the bottom or whatever
but that image of like the background would like would load like this yeah yeah like line by line uh and i just i just always stood
out to me it's like hbo.com i thought it was the weirdest thing that's so strange so like i i
started college in 96 i graduated high school in 96 and so sept September of 96 was when I started college at BC. And I got my first like
real computer and got my first email address and logged onto the internet. It was like,
what is going on here? But before that, my only exposure is I had my parents bought my cousin's
old computer off of him, which was a, uh, the monitor, everything was green. It was just green
back in the day.
And there was no internet.
You could get AOL.
People were like way into AOL.
I didn't do it because you had to pay for it.
But there were, uh, bulletin boards.
They were called BBSs, uh, bulletin board service.
And you would like, I guess you would, it was like a shared chat room with people in
your area and you would just go on and chat and there'd be different rooms, like a chat oh hey hey so and so 316 and you'd talk to them and then there'd be like rooms where
you could play games with each other but like that to me was revolutionary and then i got to
college and it was like i could just go to any website it's pretty wild and a dot matrix printer. It was like.
So this,
this I think is a fun, like litmus test,
but like when you had papers in high school,
what did you do?
Did you type,
did you type on a typewriter?
Did you type them at the computer lab at school?
Did you handwrite them?
Like what?
That's that.
What did you do?
I'm hogging this conversation,
but like we were,
we didn't have a lot of money.
Like the only reason I even went to like a nice all boys high school is
because I got a full four year scholarship to go there.
And then I could not,
we didn't have a computer.
And then my junior year,
we bought my cousin's computer with the dot matrix printer.
And like,
I could print out one thing.
And if I got it wrong,
that was it.
I couldn't reprint it. The ink was too pricey. So was like i'd hand that in they'd be like you need to make a couple
changes i'm like i can't that's the paper it's the ink was too expensive so back in that time i
i would so i used a typewriter until maybe junior year of high school and i until i got my first
computer and i was like,
I remember going in with the,
like the whiteout things to like correct mistakes, like slap,
like to like knock a letter out and stuff.
And then I,
so I got the computer and I remember my senior year,
like doing like being up soup,
stupid late to do projects.
Cause it's just like super procrastinating.
And I remember that dot matrix printer firing off one in the morning,
two in the morning. And it's sounding like a hurricane inside the house. It's like,
it's so quiet. Everybody's asleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember one time,
I was like, I had this project. I can't remember what it was, but I think it was English,
long paper. And I just ran out of time. I was too late. I had technical issues, whatever it was. And I actually ran out
of time to do my bibliography. And I just put a blank page on the back of the paper, and I stapled
it. And then I grabbed the back and I ripped it off. So there was just like a piece of paper
hanging on the back. And I just turned that in. And he was was like where's your bibliography and i was like i i
don't know oh look it must have ripped off that's good joe yes and my dad told a co-worker about
that and he was like that kid's gonna be a millionaire that is good i'm not even like i
look at that i'm like genius the teacher the teacher in me is just like, why didn't you just say, I ran out of time.
I didn't get to do my –
Because you, Matthew, are a new era of teacher, which are reasonable.
And you also teach college students.
So this is like –
Because college students never try to get out of doing work.
No, but college is generally an arena where you speak more peerishly to teachers
and students. Like in high school, this guy
was like, he was like 76
years old. He was like,
he ran it like a military academy,
that English class. Yeah, you can't make a
college student like write a phrase
on a chalkboard 7,000
times. Right, exactly.
So this 76
year old drill instructor bought that they
bought the the old i'm sure he didn't buy it i'm sure he was like all right well played
he called me he called everybody by their last name he was intense i got trouble you have thoughts
okay yeah i'm just like you know i went off on the internet because i was like there are websites
that i will go to i don't remember the names. I'm like Googling
them while you guys are bringing the conversation
to school.
Like you're like, oh, computers in the
beginning of the internet. How about how did you write
papers? No, listen,
I don't remember how the fuck I wrote
papers. My brain like garbage collects a lot
of things that I don't need to remember anymore. But the one thing
it doesn't garbage collect is
homestarrunner.com.
For me, as like an elder emo,
homestarrunner.com, Strong Bad
with like Trogdor,
and then like all the meme sites.
What's the site? Every word you're saying, I've
never heard in my life. Is she speaking French?
I feel like she's speaking French. What's the site where it's like
badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom,
mushroom. What is that?
And the spoon is too big.
Oh.
My spoon is too big.
They're rejected.
Rejected cartoons.
And.
Tuesday is coming.
Did you bring a code?
Did you bring a code?
It was amazing.
And.
Her school.
As an elder emo.
Are they speaking English?
Explodingdog.com.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, now I know how you guys felt
while we were talking
you're nodding
I was in those chat rooms pretending I was 18
with stolen images from the internet
talking to strangers
and making handsome fan sites on
Angel Fire and GeoCities
and making it so that a song
played on my MySpace profile that you couldn't
fucking pause and changing played on my MySpace profile that you couldn't fucking pause.
Yes.
And changing your background on MySpace to like a weird fucking like falling star graphic that was impossible to read the text.
With like the cartoon dolls, the palace cartoon dolls you can customize.
I downloaded the palace program and like played in it.
It's like the metaverse.
But like before that was a thing.
It's just like this universe where you're just a cartoon doll, and you're walking
around with other people, and you go to rooms.
And that's how cartoon dolls were made.
How are those
Hanson guys doing it?
They're all married with
children, and
they have a lot of children.
That's it all. I mean, they're crushing
it.
Upstanding, progressive young men, right?
Yeah, they're pretty up to date on the times.
You're talking about the 2000s internet, which is like my era that I grew up in, too.
So I know what you're talking about.
But I was even a little bit.
It's funny how it comes in waves of eras of internet because I was a little bit after that.
And mine was on the end of that.
And then it became like e-bombs world
yeah i remember e-bombs addicting games um games which was all like it was fun and then you whatever
happened to e-bomb e-bomb should have ended up being well i know but they should have been
youtube you know what i mean like they were like yeah one of the first that i remember watching
video comedy so. So much.
And there's so much.
I remember just being like, I could click on this site forever.
There's so many categories.
Yeah.
And I think that and then even further than that, a site that amazed me with just how
much was on the internet, the internet was growing in front of my eyes, was stumbleupon.com, which was
a genius website that basically you would sometimes click interests or something, sometimes not. You
would just hit the word stumble and it would bring you to a random website, just a random URL.
And it was a lot of like art and like weird indie sites, like things you would never find because
like Google wasn't even really huge then.
I don't know. It was like mind blowing to me. Even growing up with the internet, I was just like, there's so much internet. Well, while we're talking about this, I played a game recently
called Hypnospace Outlaw. And you're basically like this internet enforcer. But like the internet's
like the old internet. And there's like the old internet and there's like people with
sites and it has guest books and comments and the,
the sites that you go to,
they look like they did in like the nineties and two thousands where they're
glitchy and they're just like weird.
And it's a bit of an overwhelming game visually,
but it's really great.
This game looks so cool.
That's awesome.
Well, here's a controversial
statement
I'm going to throw out there. It's very controversial.
The way we look back
at these early internet
things, which for some of us wasn't early
internet, it was just our first exposure to internet,
it seems crazy now, right?
Crazy that that was
considered a thing.
Without judging the merits of it,
this is how people are responding negatively to AI right now.
Like people are like, this is stupid.
This is bad.
This is horrible.
In 20 years,
it is going to be such a part of our norm and mainstream that like,
we're going to look fucking dumb part of our norm and mainstream that like we're gonna look fucking dumb forever
saying this is stupid it's the same way that we look back at the internet i know ai is not crypto
but after the whole crypto thing where everyone's like there's this thing let's find problems for
it to solve that's what people are doing with ai it's all i hear about during my work day i honestly
like it seems cool but like if i see that it's a tool there, I don't care about
it though. And everyone's talking about it
and it's not like perfect yet, but
everyone's using it already and like production
applications and it's just like kind of nuts
and I think, yeah, it will be like that
but it's going to ruin everything.
Or will it be like
E-bombs world? It might be, right?
It won't. That thing.
It's taking over. over yeah remember that thing remember
when ai we all thought ai was gonna be so big this is us talking in 100 years we're gonna be
delivering pizzas to ais in about five years it's gonna be joe showed up the door is do you want a
juice pepperoni no our jobs will be training that's possible uh It is crazy that I look back. I just,
I have Brendan Fraser's face like,
what?
He was so sincere.
It's like a website about me.
A website?
I think he'd have that same reaction today.
He pronounced it,
which was like a web seat.
He didn't even know how to say it.
A web seat?
But I know a website I'd like to visit.
It's called lastepisode.com.
Oh, I love that website.
That's my segue.
I'm going to.
I was just saying the same thing.
Does someone know it?
That's a good URL.
Yes, it's a publishing thing.
It's a ventures publishing.
God, everybody owns something.
Somebody owns it.
Email contactatlastepisode.com and say,
do something with this site or my lawyers are going to be after you.
Right.
More people just clicked on your site in the past five minutes than they ever clicked on it.
You're welcome.
All these direct visits.
Wow.
Well, last episode, forget the dot com.
You folks found yourself in a bit of a pickle, as it were.
You said, let's do invisibility sphere.
Let's like if there's going to be enemies, let's try to get the jump on them.
The jump.
And so you go into a new area.
You realize that the prison is split through some sort of mechanism that's only used for lockdowns.
But it's being used right now because there's a civil war going on between the warden and the deputy warden.
Two moonbeasts that don't see eye to eye on how prison should be run.
You get through to the other side and the first room you come into is a fucking prison, like a legit prison.
Cells, wall to wall cells.
They look empty.
Or are they?
You go to the south and you find this woman,
this Osirianni woman in there.
She seems like she's got her shit together.
But you talk to her for all of three seconds
and she doesn't.
A former academic whose mind was opened up
to the other side,
who perhaps spent a little too much time
trying to contact the other side who perhaps spent a little too much time trying to contact
the other side and something happened
that clearly tore
her mind asunder
and now she would rather die here
than live in
your world where
bad things are coming.
Seems like there's someone else in these
cells to the north but you're like, you know what?
We've got a couple seconds left of the invisibility sphere. If there's any more enemies, let's go upstairs and let's figure this out. The king in yellow, the yellow king, rather, is here and it looks like he's being kept on the wall. There's like this torture device
that's all throughout the room
and all the torture devices
are connected to this contraption on the wall.
There seems to be this echo of a scream,
like a far distant scream that you hear.
Like, what's going on?
You talk to the simple janitor that's like,
oh, I have nothing to do with this civil war.
It's all very, I'm just, well, what's your story?
And you guys start talking to her, and the torture beds come to life,
and she turns into an humble dragon.
Joe immediately says this is an unwinnable fight and checks out.
Yes, that is true.
I don't know why I said that there was something though it's usually
one thing that sets me off i think it's like a 34 ac a high ac you don't like a high ac
hate a high ac you don't like having a hit with an 18 plus i like a good nine round fight where
i hit every round well then you shouldn't be playing Pathfinder 2nd Edition.
Because your high ACs are the jam.
If I were to give a plus one AC to a creature, they immediately become unhittable unless you roll a 20.
This creature is difficult.
And it seems like, I think, Ethel, your prime damage dealer, rolled like a 17 and missed.
I might be exaggerating, but if I am, it's not by much.
I don't think that was on the first attack.
Well, there's nothing else to do here.
So this thing is laying out significant damage.
Ethel, brave hero that he is, rushes in, rushes right up,
and gets grabbed by one of these beds.
Aldo is grabbed as well.
Suki is grabbed but escapes and then rushes back behind the wall. So Aldo is grabbed. Etho is grabbed as well. Suki is grabbed, but escapes. And then rushes back behind the wall.
So Aldo is grabbed. Ethel is grabbed.
Ethel breaks out and is striking,
but Ethel has been taking a beating.
At the end of the episode,
Suki escapes from the bed and says,
I am going to tumble through this door into the next room.
Splitting the party.
But.
And starting another encounter.
Maybe, maybe I don't.
Oh, no.
Well, it's interesting you say that,
because we went off air and was like,
all right, you guys, you don't see this.
If you're watching this, we're like, all right, good night.
That was fun.
Oh, it's great seeing you guys.
We high five. And everybody leaves. And, it's great seeing you guys. Let me high five.
And everybody leaves.
And Joe and I stayed on to talk about something.
And Joe's like, I didn't want to bring this up.
I didn't want to derail the momentum of the show.
But opening the door is an action.
And Suki did not have an action with which to open the door to get into that room.
I think, yeah.
And I think I said it more like, you know she can't just do whatever she feels like.
Because she was like, and she just, it was a great, it was actually a great cinematic moment.
You're like, Suki just stumbles back and just bam! Bangs into that door open and just
wants to look inside.
And I was like, that sounded really neat.
But you can't do that!
Yeah.
You're right. And so I thought about
that. Yeah.
What do we do now?
I have some thoughts.
I mean, if you have thoughts,
I was gonna say maybe I don't do that,
and maybe it was just me being caught up in the moment of gameplay.
Sure.
Sorry.
Were you having fun?
I'm going to need you to tone that down a little.
That's your fault.
That's quite enough of that.
Sorry, guys.
I was having a wee bit of fun with my lads,
and I might have spoken out of turn.
Troy, please forgive.
My benevolent GM, please forgive.
I mean, I forgive you, but I don't forget.
And at the end of the day.
Joe's right.
I literally can't do that, though.
Sure, sure, sure.
But then I thought about it and it was like,
this feels like a cheap ending to the show.
Had Joe said something, I would have been like, you're right.
Guess we'll play for another 10 minutes till I find an ending to this episode.
But that was the ending of the episode.
And damn it, I can't not give to the beautiful listeners and supporters and viewers of this show.
I can't take that moment away from them.
So in this case,
it appears that door was slightly ajar
because you do stumble into it.
Okay.
All right.
Ho, ho, ho!
There must be something horrible in there.
Yep, this is punishment to me.
Let's go to the map.
Let's go to the map.
Oh, oh.
I'd prefer not to.
That's big. Oh!
Oh!
Yet another gorgeous room. Old Davy Maps.
Old Davy Maps.
He changed his Twitter handle
to Old Davy Maps.
Give Old Davy Maps a
follow on Twitter.
You stumble backwards into this room, gracefully.
Luckily, the door was ajar, otherwise you would have bumped your head.
And it contains an enormous mechanism, like a singular mechanism, it looks like,
of gears and pulleys that descend into the floor, and you see one large metal lever,
or a lever.
If you're Australian.
If you're Australian.
Protruding from the device,
and no other way in or out of the room,
as far as you can see,
other than the ajar door that you stumbled through.
And it's making noise.
the ajar door that you stumbled through. And it's making
noise.
That's the end of your turn.
And now
it is Atticus's turn.
Can I ask a question? A clarifying question.
Who was that?
I think I'm hearing a producer.
Clarifying question about the lever
Matthew yes
In the scale model
Yes this is Matthew not Ethel
In the scale model
Of the prison that we saw
Is this the lever that we saw
That could open that slab
That divided the wings
Or is this some other lever
It appears if the
Model was correct And nothing has changed It appears, if the model was correct,
and nothing has changed,
it appears that the lever in this room
is what changed the shifting hallway.
Cool.
Between the prison that you were able to pass through.
It appears to be that same lever.
And it's Atticus's turn.
Do we want to flip that lever?
It doesn't really help you at this point you're through
it helps us to get back out
because we had that whole debacle with the gate
and also if the other moon beast
wants to come fight his
brother
that does help us
okay
I'm just going to act quickly here in this brother. That does help us. Okay.
I'm just going to act quickly here in this
unwinnable fight.
He's just going to run up
15 feet to Aldo.
And he just like
scrambles up. He's got a wand in one hand
and I almost see his other hand hitting the ground
as he's just like rat running
up to Aldo. And he's just like rat running up to Aldo.
And he's just like, Aldo, run!
Get out of there!
And he is going to touch you with the wand, and that is a wand of freedom of movement.
Ah!
Okay.
So you automatically succeed at your check to escape.
Great.
That's pretty sweet.
Is the deal um and yeah well the only question is is this thing particularly um is it a magic effect or is it
actually like a hose that's holding him like is it like a magical energy field? Or is it like an actual physical thing that is holding him, even if it's...
There is a physical thing that's holding him.
Okay.
It's a strap from the torture pit.
Okay.
Is that good?
Yeah, it should be.
I mean, it just depends.
It says it automatically succeeds unless the effect is magical and of a higher level than the freedom of movement spell.
Well, it is magical.
Yeah, but it's still a belt.
I don't know.
But it's a magical, essentially it's a magical trap.
Yeah, I mean, it's like casting an immobilized spell
where it's like you're paralyzed or something
versus a magic driving some physical thing. immobilized spell where it's like you're paralyzed or something versus yeah yes exactly that's how i
read it driving some physical thing but yeah whatever if you don't want this to work because
it doesn't exceed the level of the hazard i i would get that but it's up to you troy oh that's
interesting so what is it called again it's a Freedom of Movement. Freedom of Movement. It's a fourth level spell.
When they attempt to escape an effect that has them immobilized, grabbed, or restrained,
they automatically succeed unless the effect is magical and of a higher level than the Freedom of Movement spell.
Well, that's interesting, right?
Like it's a magical trap, but yeah, the way it's written makes it seem like you're frozen in time. But then again, you know,
if magical
branches came
out of the ground and grabbed you,
wouldn't that, that to
me seems like, oh, you shouldn't be able to
escape that with freedom of movement.
It's up to interpretation for sure.
It's, you know, some
effect is clearly not magical if a monster is holding you
right like um and if the trap is mundane clearly not magical so you could say that this is magical
but i sort of interpret magical as like you know blue lines of force like magical energy that are
restraining you or the a paralyzed spell or an immobilized spell kind of thing. But whatever, I don't really... It's up to you.
I will touch Aldo with that regardless and then
run back and out
towards Suki
and just get back as far as
I can in the room while still staying
in clear line of sight of the target
creature.
And that'll be the end of my turn.
Alright. I want to give you a
chance though if I decide to rule the
other way to do something else because
that would just waste your turn based on
a ruling and I don't want to do that you
know I'm saying no I don't really care
it's fine because I'm gonna do it anyway
like in you know in the game I'm going
to do it anyway like I have no doesn know, in the game, I'm going to do it anyway. Like I have no,
it doesn't work.
I have no way of knowing that this,
that this magic is,
is a higher level than freedom of movement.
It's a pretty high level spell.
Yeah.
Uh,
freedom movement is a fourth level spell.
Yeah.
Um,
Oh,
this is tricky,
right?
God,
I wish I could get through five minutes of this game and have everything be straightforward. But like, to me, the way I'm reading it is tricky, right? God, I wish I could get through five minutes of this game
and have everything be straightforward.
But to me, the way I'm reading it is like,
unless the effect is magical.
The effect here is technically magical.
And it is of a higher level.
So it didn't work.
Okay.
And now it's...
I mean, the whole reason that I was doing that
and was not going to cast a spell on this thing
is because I will not cast a spell, any spells on this thing
that require a save while I'm frightened.
It's just not worth the risk.
Right, and now your fright goes down by one.
I'm just going to waste time until I get my full DC back.
Okay.
Apropos of nothing, I am going to
show you guys. It's the
dragon's turn. I'm just going to show you guys
this cone
that I have here.
Oh no.
Really, I'm just putting it up there just to show
you. I'll put it on the map layer here.
It takes up the whole map.
And while
it's there, I'll just move it slightly.
Oh, no.
I want to get Ethel in there, too.
I think I can give it a little Carolina twist here.
Is a Carolina twist a thing?
Yep.
What provokes?
Oh, that's going to be tricky. Oh. Oh, this is going to be tricky. What provokes? Oh
Oh
Oh wait it's the dark
It's the dark square
Very interesting
Oh damn it
I also have a tiny little bit of cover
Pre-show this worked fine
I don't know why
Did somebody move?
No it's a 30-foot cone.
Look at that shit.
It is perfect.
Let me see how many actions it is.
Oh, fuck my ball sack.
That's inappropriate.
Sorry, please don't do that to my ball sack.
All right, that's two actions.
All right, that's fine.
Here's what I'm going to do.
I am going to do. I am going...
Token John, I'm going
to... Wait, you're standing there.
Well, this is a real
sticky wicket, isn't it?
Why is it sticky? Can't you just
do whatever you want because you're a dragon?
You'd think, right? You'd think, Kate.
Because it's probably a three action breath
so he can't move to reposition to get everybody.
I think I can take a step action to move up there.
Okay.
And then you won't get Eris, which is nice.
No, I want to get all of them.
Can I get all? I can't, right?
I think you can get two of three.
You can choose.
Oh.
No. You can't even get two of three. You can only get two of three. You can choose. Oh. No.
You can't even get two of three.
You can only get one of three.
You're putting a circular peg in a square hole right now
over and over again on the map.
This is great for radio.
So, Discovery Troy is doing this.
He's going to watch the show.
And he's trying to twist it in such a way
that he can get more than one or two characters.
But he can't.
Let's try this one.
Wow, this is so crazy. I thought it was a
genius pre-show. I was like, got him.
Wait.
Oh, damn it. That's only like a hair.
That's amazing.
Wow, look at this.
It's like Aldo. Perfectly
not in it. So the cone
needs to cover at least half the square or something?
Yeah, but like right here,
this cone would be
Ethel and Eris.
Alright, so I'm going to
attack Ethel and Eris. That's what I'm
going to do with a...
It's called a breath weapon. I'm not
sure if you're familiar with this. But what I'd
like you to do is a
reflex save.
Okay.
I don't think it's going to matter what I roll
because I'm going to go down.
Don't say that.
You're great.
I have 20 hit points.
Oh, no.
You really are going down.
I'm going down right now.
Well, don't critically fumble.
Well, that would be bad, I guess.
That would be bad.
You don't want to go straight to dying, too.
Okay.
I rolled a 15, so that's not bad.
So that's a 29.
I got a 29 also. A couple
29s.
Not bad. Not bad
at all. Not bad to save my life.
Not enough to save my life, but still not bad.
I mean, they both failed, but they were good rolls.
DC 30.
This thing is three levels
higher than us. Minimum. You both take
38 points of damage.
All right, all right, all right.
It's just this like, it opens.
So if I had succeeded, I would have stayed up.
You would have stayed up.
It opens its mouth in this dark, necromantic, like black.
I don't want to call it fire.
It's just like energy comes out and washes over you.
And you just feel life leaving your body
as it bathes you in this
shadow darkness.
It's not fire.
No, it's not fire.
It's shadow breath.
It's shadow breath. Great.
It's halitosis.
You know
that breath you have sometimes when you like you had like a really
aggressive night of drinking the night before and you forget to brush your teeth you wake up the
next morning and you taste it in yourself and you're like it's as if elements of the shadow
plane itself have seeped its way into my lungs i get that even when i brush my teeth acid reflux
i think we've done this conversation already though I remember being in college
I never drank in high school
the first time I drank was in college
and one of my buddies
I'll never forget for whatever reason
he's coming out of the bathroom in the morning
just kind of hungover you know we're hungover
and he just walks out and he goes
did any of you see someone
shit
in my mouth
last night
as he was just describing
like that taste like he had forgotten to brush
his teeth just the like lingering
awfulness
just like
tastes like I ate shit last night
I would like to stay for the record because that
story made it seem like I was telling an anecdote
based on personal experience
there has been one night in my life that I've forgotten to brush my teeth stay for the record because that story made it seem like I was telling an anecdote based on personal experience.
There has been one night in my life that I've forgotten to brush my teeth.
I was 16 and I haven't
done it ever since. Really?
Wow. Good for you,
Matthew. I totally have.
I still do. I'm sorry.
You've never been sick? You've never been so sick
that you just have to go to bed
and you can't brush your teeth?
Like you're ill with the flu or something?
Yeah, I brush my teeth first.
I like, sometimes I can't even just like muster it.
I don't know if it's like the lack of
or having a mental illness that prevents it sometimes.
Because your teeth are the best friends you've got.
You take care of them.
I brush my teeth religiously, morning, night,
never miss it at all
something happened around
the third child where all of a sudden
it'll be like 9 o'clock at night and I'll be like
I didn't brush my teeth today
and that's happened like 10 times
over the past month and a half
and it never happened before
I taste like shit in my mouth
I keep getting shit in my mouth
let's take a quick word for our sponsor.
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I'm still laughing.
Colgate,
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Four out of five dentists agree.
Four out of five dentists agree.
That last dentist was like, my mouth still tastes shitty.
It's like a bidet for your face.
Must maybe spit take my whiskey.
I don't remember anything about the show Friends.
I don't think I watched it beyond like the fourth or fifth season.
But there's one joke that I never forget.
Somebody walks in and says, guess what?
And I think it's Chandler.
It's like the fifth dentist cave.
Now everyone approves Trident.
And I was like, that's a really good joke.
Now it's been like probably overused.
But that was the first time I'd ever heard that joke.
I was like, that's good.
It's Aldo's turn. It's okay if you watch Friends, Troy. No, I'm not saying it. That's good. It's Aldo's turn.
It's okay if you watch Friends, Troy.
No, I'm not saying, I'm not thinking of Friends.
I don't know if it's Friends.
I don't remember it, though. I have no, like,
Avatar. I saw Avatar.
I couldn't tell you anything about
Avatar.
Friends, same thing.
I did not watch Friends.
Alright, so, aldo uh speaking
of friends uh he he turns to atticus and
says like well it was a nice try as good
it's a thought that counts what it's not
working no it didn't work mate i'm still
held fast as it
were looks at the wand
useless
throws it away
breaks it over his knee
alright
so that's one action
and uh with my
second action I'm going
to I'm really
like so I did I
try it at do I
have an idea of what it would take to break
free of this thing on my own natural 20
I can't remember if you tried it and I think you
were like you know what I'm not even gonna try I'm just
going to throw three bombs
but yeah I mean it
seems like it's holding you
pretty fat what's your athletics
it's not
good it's 10
10 yeah
so you're
like oh man this is you just
this is what you feel you feel like this
is gonna be really hard I need a miracle
right
alright so instead with his one free hand he's just gonna continue
to underhand bombs at this thing uh probably about the same success rate uh all right so
with a okay all right so that was with the bottled lightning that is a that is a 35 35 is a hit.
Okay.
Nice.
There we go.
Natural 19.
It can be hit.
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
All right.
That is 10 points of damage,
and it is flat-footed until the beginning of my next turn.
That's big.
Okay.
And I'm now going to throw a Blight Bomb.
Okay, a Blight Bomb.
Yeah, that's a waste of time.
Okay, well, I did about as well as I could do
with my second attack.
That is a natural 18 for a 29.
Okay, with the flat-footed, that is
a hit. Yeah! Awesome!
Awesome!
Okay, so...
Alright, so a sickly
green miasma
covers its body
as it takes
that is
13 points of damage.
Okay.
And what kind of damage?
Is it a specific type of damage?
Poison damage.
Ah.
Okay.
Okay.
And assuming that affects it,
it will also have 2d4 persistent damage.
Okay.
2d4 persistent poison.
All right. so you see it
like yell in pain as it gets hit.
And I'll throw a little...
Actually, that's acid.
It's a good one for poison.
This, I don't know.
All right, and you have one more action.
No, I spent an action apologizing.
Ah, fair enough. And that have one more action. No, I spent an action apologizing. Ah, fair enough.
And that was a full action.
It's Eris's turn.
Eris, what do you got up your sleeve there?
Something really gross.
Not surprised.
I have a couple questions.
I love it.
So it seems to be, like, kind of up against the wall next to these mechanisms here.
Mm-hmm.
Um, how tall are the ceilings in this room?
I'm glad you asked.
I actually know the answer to that question, which is why I'm glad you asked.
That's great.
And I believe-
I like to ask questions that you know.
15 feet high.
Sweet. I like to ask questions that you know 15 feet high sweet um so before I do
this I'm
gonna take a moment just to be like guys
are we gonna try to like win this right now or
should we be
more defensive maybe
no attack it's flat footed
check it and see
laughing
alright um wait is Ethel dead it's flat footed check it and see alright
um
wait is Ethel dead
yeah I put the
he's a dying one
he's on the ground
here's what fucking happens
um
Eris reaches out and starts casting
and you see up from the floor
uh
this fleshy wall emerges.
A fleshy wall?
Rises up all the way to the ceiling.
A wall of flesh and mouths.
Oh.
And it goes from that top north part of the wall above the dragon, and it extends 5, 10, 15, 20 feet.
So it doesn't completely encase it because I can't intersect objects,
but I'm thinking it's going to give it a problem
because there's objects in the way of moving.
I love this image you're putting up.
And because it's a wall of mouths,
just in case you guys want to look this up to make sure I'm doing it right,
I know you're doing it, Joe.
It's called Wall of Flesh, the spell.
All right.
Is that basically where you wanted it, the 24 wall?
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay.
It's 20 feet high and 20 feet wide.
It is 15 feet high because of the length of the walls here,
but it is three feet thick.
And each five-foot section has to own AC and hit points.
And it's covered in mouths.
Gross.
So at the end of your turn, things might happen if you try to go around it.
How dare you?
Okay, and it's 15 feet long then, right?
15 by 15?
Yeah, yeah.
It goes kind of just right up to where Athel is because it can't pass through any objects.
So I'm imagining it's like right in front of the dragon there.
What about the table?
Can it pass through that table?
Well, since it's three feet, I was imagining,
I can't like show you what I'm doing with my mouse right now,
but I was imagining it was in that like half tile space,
like right in front of the dragon.
Right.
Or is the dragon there?
Well, that's tricky, right?
So technically, by Pathfinder rules,
the dragon takes up that whole spot.
So you could put it where
I just put it here. That's clear.
And I think it's still going to do the same thing
that you were hoping. Because this doesn't help
Ethel, and that doesn't help Ethel.
This helps everybody
else.
Yeah.
She can draw in a straight diagonal line.
Not because of the table.
It can't intersect with an object?
Yeah, it says it must be an unbroken open space
so its edges don't pass through any creatures or objects
or the spell is lost.
I think this is great.
Like, obviously, Ethel is still in trouble,
but Ethel's down,
so you would hope that this enemy is more interested
in taking out the rest of you than just going
after Ethel, obviously, is a concern
based on your particular feelings
for Ethel, but I think this is still
going to serve a good purpose
for you, especially where it goes all the way to the ceiling.
You can also do this and draw it horizontally.
Yeah.
It's only three feet
thick. Yeah, if you want to just protect
Ethel, you can do that.
It's up to you. I don't if you want to just protect that, you can do that. Yeah, that's true.
It's up to you.
I don't know anymore now,
because also the part of it having mouths
is that when it tries to move around it,
it, like, bites at it.
Oh, no.
Hit it into the corner.
Oh, that's way better.
Just make it take up the whole thing.
All right, maybe...
Do 30 feet by 30 feet.
Maybe this can't happen in this room.
There's too many things in the way, and it's more cramped.
I think it's a cool idea.
You just got to decide which way you want to put it.
I wanted to have to go around and not have a straight shot.
So even though it's not protecting Ethel, I feel like it makes more sense for it to be right
here where it's up and down
long ways. And if it's not
going to be where I originally wanted it to be,
then I would like for it to be
up to 30 feet long.
So I want it to be
way longer. Oh, it can be longer?
Mm-hmm. So cut off the whole
all the way up to the north wall there.
25, 30, like this.
5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30.
And I could flush it north if you want.
Yes, because I don't want to leave Ethel with no way out just in case.
Cool.
And creepy.
Yeah, so now if it wants to try and make it through that one little open space,
it will have to pass by the wall and it will have to squeeze.
Awesome.
Which works a little different, if I remember, in Pathfinder 2E.
It's not just like a reduction to your AC like it is in first edition.
It's a separate action.
And it's an acrobatics check, too.
Yeah, and it takes a critical success.
It still takes a minute to get through.
So if we're doing traditional 2E squeezing,
it basically can't do it in combat.
And then I would like to cast shield on my...
I just want to throw this out there.
Which means you may have just condemned Ethel to death.
I knew you were going to do that.
I knew I was like, am I going to say it? Just putting that out there, which means you may have just condemned Ethel to death. I knew you were going to do that. I knew I was like,
am I going to say it? Just putting that out there.
I still have,
I don't know what else to do. A very intelligent dragon.
It's still just a dream.
I know, that's the thing.
It was all a dream. It was all a dream.
And then the dragon killed your lover.
And I'm trying
to think of what else I can do with one action
to help Ethel here.
Like I really don't have anything outside of shield.
And I can't just like run in there because yeah.
Let me just look at my focus spells again.
Really quick needle advantage didn't work last time.
Yeah.
I don't know what else I can do.
So I think I might just cast shield.
I can really cast it else I can do. So I think I might just cast shield.
I can really cast it on myself, right?
Correct.
Yeah, so I'm going to cast it on myself because I'm not going to move because I want to maybe try to get him if I can.
Okay.
Next turn.
All right, so two action.
You think it's a dumb idea.
One action.
Joe, I see your face.
I think this whole turn is magnificent.
Thank you.
And it ends the round.
Ethel moves in the initiative order to immediately after, after or before?
Before.
Before the dragon.
The dragon.
Well, that's a real pain in my ass.
It doesn't matter.
There's nothing that he can do on his turn
that would prevent you from destroying him.
He just means literally moving your thing.
Just the initiative.
All right, it's a new round.
It's Suki's turn.
Suki, you only see a wall of flesh with mouths,
and you assume you'll never see Ethel again.
What would you like to do?
Suki, free action says
to Aldo, or it says to Atticus,
there's the,
I'm in here, I'm in here.
Behind you, through the door.
There's the gear.
It changes the rock that's
downstairs. If you can turn it, we can open it up.
I don't know if we need to do that right now,
but I have to go.
And she runs back out of the room
after seeing Eris put this wall up,
smacking Atticus on the way up.
Be careful, Suki.
Try to keep your distance from all of us.
It has a breath weapon.
Wait, you're just leaving us here
with this building made of meat.
I'm going to double move past Eris.
And I'm running.
I'm yelling to everybody.
There's a room in the back that has the gears
that lead to the rock that's downstairs
and we can open it up.
She's just sprinting to this side.
And then can I fit in this space between the flesh?
I'm like now below the flesh wall
at the tiny little
space that's left
yes is that what you
want to do no I was gonna
ask would a medium sized creature
fit in this space or no
yeah
wait
any creature that ends their
turn oh yeah no I'm gonna take a
step back
I would take a step back. Come on, what are you doing, Suki?
I'm going to take a step back.
I didn't know if it was friendly.
I didn't know if it was friendly to us.
I mean, it's a meat wall.
I mean, the meat wall eats anything that shows up.
Meat wall, don't lie.
Damn, I...
Shoot.
Okay, I can't...
I'm trying to see if I can cast heal.
If I do a verbal,
the spell has a range of 30 feet.
It doesn't say anything about...
Line of sight?
Yeah, I don't know if...
You always have to have line of effect.
You can't do it now, but you can do it next round.
It's fine. He's not going to die.
You'll be fine.
He might.
He's not going to die this round.
Can you double move into this alcove down here below?
So you're five feet away from the wall when your turn ends.
Oh, it's...
But then I'm with the dragon.
Yeah, then you're just going to die next immediately.
Yeah.
I have to wait.
It sucks, but I simply have to wait.
So I'm going to run up next to Eris, and I yell all that about the back room.
And I just say, I'll try to get Ethel out.
Okay.
That's it.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
So you slide up and decide not to go up to the meat wall.
Meat wall looks bad, I will admit.
I run out, and as I get closer, I was like, ooh, ooh, and I kind of stop.
Oh, no. I found this pretty out, and as I get closer, I was like, ooh, ooh, and I gotta stop. Oh, no!
I found this pretty quickly, but it's pretty accurate. It really is.
Like Akira.
The end. Oh, yeah.
It's Atticus's
turn. Atticus
is going to
he's going
to
he's going to step into the room
with the gears
and go around
so that he cannot be seen or
targeted by the dragon.
And he is going to
cast invisibility on himself.
Ah.
That's two action John.
So that's his turn. And now my frightened
condition is gone.
Okay.
Rear with the gears.
My frightened condition is gone too, right?
Or no, I have to wait until I...
Right.
It's coming after you roll your save.
After I roll it.
So it's now your turn, Ethel, and you roll your save.
I mean, I'm pretty sure you maintain the frightened until the end of the turn.
Because I haven't had a turn since.
Right, right, right.
Do I get to shake off a condition while I'm unconscious?
That's the thing. Or do I stay frightened even in my sleep?
No, you have a turn.
It's a turn. It goes away. You can stay flavor frightened,
but yeah, it goes away. Flavor frightened.
Okay, so DC 11 flat check, yeah?
Yes.
Crack die.
18. 18.
Okay.
I'm at zero hit points and unconscious.
Yes, and now are you...
And wounded one.
And wounded one.
Yes.
Yes.
So if you go to dying again,
which looks like it may happen,
you would go straight to dying two.
If you get crit, you go straight to dying three.
This is bad three this is bad
this is bad business
and it's the dragon's turn
now Ethel
you're laying on the ground there
and the dragon sees this giant wall
of meat and does not like it
I would argue that
she may have never seen
a meat wall like this
with mouths that are like tauntingly chomping out at it.
It's not every day you see a mouthy meat wall.
Seriously.
You know what?
It is the dreamlands.
You never know how they eat here.
It is a bold statement.
I'm getting the vibes that this dragon is three levels higher than us,
which means at the very least, this dragon's seen some shit.
Here's what she does.
She flies down to this alcove here so she can peer past the meat wall.
Now, she is technically adjacent to the meat wall.
We'll deal with that in a second.
She's trying to see what's going on past the meat wall.
And she sees Eris. She sees Suki.
She probably doesn't see Aldo, but
she assumes that Aldo is still
restrained by the
magical, torturous bed.
And
let's see. I do have a good
line on Eris and Suki. Man, if I had a good line on eris and suki man if i had a good
line spell maybe i do let me see because she can see you um let me just look at my spells real
quick oh that's nice oh that's good too i forgot i had that nice she has two spells Is she flying?
Yes, she is With her dragon wings
Is she taking an action to fly every round?
That's fair, Joe
That's fair
That's only if she doesn't move from the space
She flew, which was the move action
I think as long as you do that
You don't have to spend an action to hover
Okay
And so she flew down to this little alcove here long as you do that you don't have to spend an action to hover. Okay.
And so she flew down to this little alcove
here adjacent to the wall. Like I said
we will deal with that momentarily. In the
meantime she is
going to cast
a spell
which I'm going to
uh
yeah
let's put this on the old token
layer she is going
to cast
quick question
yeah
the breath is the breath weapon
is uh we we don't know when that's
going to reset based on um
alito's um
knowledge check that was never mentioned
no no that he did get a ton
of information, but you didn't know what the recharge
on that is. You do know that most dragons do have
some sort of recharge. Some dragons
have really cool abilities where something
can happen that immediately recharges it
in 2A, which is fun. Just throwing that out there.
Apropos of nothing. However,
she just cast Darkness and bathed
Aldo, Suki, and Eris
in magical
darkness. Can you guys
see that little orb that I put
there? The disco ball of darkness?
Yeah, the disco ball is just there so I can
throw an aura on it.
Now, if you
have darkvision,
then everything is dim light for you,
which is going to take certain
your, I think it's a DC five flat check.
If you want to do it,
if you don't have dark vision,
uh,
you would need to cast a light spell of a higher level than the darkness that
she cast in order to see normally,
which will not happen among this party.
It's a whole can of dicks.
Unless maybe Aldo sunlight.
Possible.
Maybe.
Possibly.
But,
uh,
that's what you're dealing with right here.
There's going to be some flat checks and whatnot.
But that is her turn.
And now it moves to Aldo's turn.
Aldo, what's your light situation?
I do not have any.
I do have the bottled sunlight, but now i'm gun shy about it because everybody said i
was determining it wrong last time i talked about it don't listen yeah i don't know if they were
talking about how how just how it interacted with the wraith or the whole thing in general
uh i i'm so terrified of the fans now that I can't even... I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.
I think it was the...
No, you're good, man.
You're good.
Using it on the...
No.
It sheds bright light.
That's exactly what this is meant to counter,
is magical darkness.
Okay, great.
And it's second level,
so it probably won't work against this creature's darkness, but it's pretty clear.
You would know, Aldo, that darkness is a second level spell.
So if this is a traditional darkness, you would meet it.
If it's a higher level darkness, which it very well could be because it's a dragon, it won't do anything.
So it's kind of like a...
It could heighten its darkness, right?
Like, that's what it is.
It's still just darkness, but it would have to get prepared at a higher level. If it's kind of like a... It could heighten its darkness, right? Like, that's what it is. Like, it's still just darkness,
but it would have to get prepared at a higher level.
If it's at a lower level, it does nothing.
No, I understand,
but it would have to prepare it at a higher level.
It's not a higher level spell.
Right, like darkness heightened to fourth.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to pull it out.
I'm going to whip it out.
Excuse me while I whip this out.
This bott of sunlight.
It's dark.
Nobody can see, man.
Do whatever you want.
And it's like a glow stick.
I shake it, or the file of Galadriel.
This bright magical light is emitted from it.
Does it work or not?
No.
Okay.
Does it work or not?
No.
Okay.
So in that case, even if I could see, I don't have line of sight because of the meat wall.
So all I can do, I think, since I already did a knowledge check, and I can't move, is try to free myself.
So I will do that now.
Let's go.
Natural Twanzoni.
All right.
There's a 20.
A straight 20?
No, no.
16.
Sorry.
It's a 16.
That's two fails.
All right.
Oh, man.
Democracy and Aldo dies in darkness.
Oh, man.
Democracy and Aldo dies in darkness.
I'm actually picturing this moment, though.
It's so it's devastating, but it's so cool that you pull out this bottled sunlight that you shake it. And to see it just like swallowed, it becomes like a little bit of purple or something.
And then it's just like gone.
It's like, yeah.
So it's like a glimmer of like dim light for a moment and then it's just like oh
baga so yeah i'm just like but um oh wait actually this should have happened on the
dragon's turn but it does it has to do the oh that's right but first uh it takes five points of poison damage okay and of course uh la vallee luck i rolled exactly a 15
flat chip awesome uh five points of john damage and it is still flat footed um but it is no longer
poisoned uh hold on a second maybe Maybe we get this wrong.
Do you just automatically make everything at a higher level now?
All of your alchemy?
Who are you talking about?
Yeah, Aldo. Is your bottled sunlight automatically moderate now?
The item, it is a moderate bottled sunlight.
The item level is four.
Yeah.
I don't know.
So it's actually level four, not level two.
I don't know how item level interacts with magical spell, but it's alchemical.
I don't know.
But I mean, to me, it seems like you got to have something that faces up against this besides only divine magic.
Like, why not an alchemical
bottled sunlight if it's a level four item oh that's interesting how does item level
um mix with spell level are they synonymous one would think right yeah that's i mean that's how
i would consider it um yeah i mean the whole point of it is like a bottled sunlight greater is item 12.
Yeah, alright. I'm just
going to, we'll look it up later, but to me that seems
if it's item level 4, it was
heightened darkness, which was 4, so I'm going to say
that you do get light. Nice! And that sheds
in, what, a 20 foot
radius?
Yes. Alright, so this
will be interesting to see how these overlap.
So if you're in Aldo's sphere here,
which Eris and Suki are just out of,
you can't see, but Aldo was able to shed light
and then tried twice to escape and missed.
So Eris and Suki can now look,
I imagine you can look out from your darkness
that's right in front of your face,
and you can see Aldo over there
but you still, I don't know what your
dark vision situation is, the
dragon may still be concealed to you.
Okay, so now
I can see.
You can see but you can't see the dragon,
right? You can see the root.
But at least I can, yeah.
Yeah. Ah, Elbareth!
Ah, Kilthoniel!
Ah! Yeah, I can, yeah. Yeah. Ah, Elbreath! Ah, Kilthoniel!
Ah!
Yeah, I mean, you start getting into the weeds,
which I have done with Chewie,
the way undetected, concealed, and all this shit works,
and it is, it's, I think,
I find it to be a little bit mind-numbing,
but that's only because you just gotta get it in your body a little bit.
But, like, there's a number of different ways to do it.
I think like you could still attack it.
The meat wall aside,
you could still attack it.
And then I roll to determine if it hit or not.
If you tell me what square you want to roll it right now,
you don't have to worry about it.
It's really not that bad undetected.
You can't,
you can't do anything cause you don't know it's there at all.
Right.
And it's just hidden and concealed. Those are really the only two. Right. But undetected you can't do anything because you don't know it's there at all and it's just hidden and concealed
those are really the only two
hidden is DC 11, concealed is DC 5
I have to take an action to sneak and hide
for it to truly be undetected
and it didn't do that
it just made an area dark
so until I do that I'm not really undetected
I'm just concealed
you're hidden
unless somebody has dark vision
yeah then you're concealed and it's all it is is dc11 versus dc5 flat check right which is huge
and if you have dark vision it's dc5 as opposed to dc11 um but anyways until that becomes relevant
let's not worry too too much about it we're gonna meet wall all courtesy of Eris. And Eris, it is your turn. And it's not flat-footed any longer also.
Oh, damn it.
Now, Eris, I should say we did gloss over the fact that I ended my turn next to your meatball.
Oh, I totally forgot.
Okay.
And so unfortunately we have to move on because you didn't say anything.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because we should have done it as soon as you got there.
But you're like, but my move is going to be so cool.
We got to interrupt it.
So I forgot, and it's your fault, and I'm not doing it.
So, yes.
The mouth strike any creature that ends its turn within five feet of the wall.
So I make a spell, a check roll.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
I think it's going to be a 17.
It's got to be a good roll.
Natural 19.
Yes!
That's a 20.
Wait, is that 36?
Yes.
17 plus 19 is 36.
Sure is.
That's a hit.
You just mouthwalled me.
No.
No.
You just mouthed that dragon.
I mouthwalled that dragon.
I didn't expect a hit, so I didn't finish reading this.
Piercing damage, 1d6 plus my spell.
That's a 2 plus my spellcasting ability modifier.
Six points of damage.
My spellcasting ability modifier modifier? Is four?
Yep.
I mean, unless it's five.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
I bet it's four.
Yeah.
I don't think it can be five quite yet.
So six points of damage.
Any other ancillary?
Now it's mad because it got bit by a mouth wall.
No.
Nope.
Nothing else except, and this is amazing.
What?
The mouth wall can drink potions and heal itself.
You can't heal it any other way, but since it has mouths, it can consume consumables.
That is so scary.
Just like go up and like set a potion in front of it.
Just so you know, this isn't the only type of mouth.
This isn't the only type of flesh wall that I can do.
Gross.
Are all of us gross?
No, I have a lot of flesh walls.
Stay tuned, folks.
I got a couple more.
Fans of flesh walls should stay tuned.
It's your turn, Eris.
All right, six points of sweet, sweet damage.
So I can't see it.
It's not undetected to me because I know it's there,
but I can't see it.
It's hidden from you.
I see the light from Aldo,
and this sucks.
This meat wall's great, but it also sucks.
You could boldly move forward and then you'd see it,
but then you'd be cutting off your friends.
I'd be fighting myself, too.
Well, I mean, do you have something
that you can attack it from here with
if it wasn't hidden?
too because I mean do you have something that you can attack it from here with if it wasn't
hidden
um
I mean
most of my spells are somatic
which means I
can't you just move up five feet
into Aldo's light and then you can
since there's darkness in between there
like the light doesn't penetrate
that extra five feet of darkness
it doesn't completely overlap it.
She's not going to be able to see it at any point.
I see, I see, I see.
Any reasonable point.
Yeah, like all of my spells are somatic, which I feel like you need.
That doesn't matter.
Are your spells, do they have an attack roll?
Do any of your spells have an attack roll to hit it?
I mean, yeah, some of them do and some of them don't.
Yeah, if they don't, you can't cast it.
If they do, you can with a DC 11 flat check.
So if it has it to hit like that with a roll,
you can basically just shoot it into where you last saw the dragon.
But it's a dc11 flat check
it's 50 50 chance i don't think i have any of those prepared yeah um yeah i think we just got
to wait for it to come into the light or something so uh which i guess it won't do i'm going to
move 25 feet back.
Just somewhere over here.
And then I'm going to magic missile for two rounds.
There you go.
At the dragon, I guess.
You can't.
No.
Oh, because it's not an attack.
Yeah, you have to see it.
I just thought because it was magic missile, it would be special.
All right, so I moved.
And I'm going to do a round of infectious enthusiasm, which is one of my cantrips I don't think I've ever used.
So I'm like, hey guys, it's gonna be
fine. We've got the wall
there now and it's gonna chomp
at him. You see that? It chomped at him
and Ethel's gonna be fine. I think he might be
awake. So that
lasts for a round and
everyone
within 30 feet
gets a plus one status bonus to your
choice of attack, will save
or charisma based
skill checks. Wow, that's awesome. That's great.
Thank you. You should do that more
often. That's huge.
It's awesome. It's two
actions, so I don't, I'm always like
oh, two, but. Oh, it's two.
Oh, okay.
So I move and I try to
boost the party it's still
great especially against enemies that are gonna make us roll
will saves it's great yeah
yeah oh yeah
um
all right so that's Eros' turn and we kick off
a new round with old
Suki
the Sookster little old Suki. The Sukester!
Little old Suki.
Who, me?
Suki is going to
cast a spell
and again, every spell where she
transforms is Sailor Moon style, so
you see like a flash of
red light and then these like
spinning, almost like glittery red
fabrics in this, well you could see if it wasn't dark
it's not even impressive now but
spinning red fabrics
twirl around and
suddenly you see like almost like
a fire golem in her
place with this like red
flowing fiery dress
and
just like a guttural primal
voice comes out,
and she just says, kill,
and she's going to run.
Oh, man.
45 feet into the space behind where Ethel is.
Wait, did you run through the meat wall?
I ran around the meat wall.
But the dragon's there.
There's no way to squeeze by?
You can tumble through.
You can tumble through.
I can tumble through.
Yeah, so you can move up to the dragon.
I wonder what its athletics DC is.
First action is move up to the dragon.
Second action would be a tumble through.
It's acrobatics, isn't it?
No, tumble through is part of the move.
But, yeah.
Yes, I'm sorry.
Yes, tumble through. You stride up to your speed. Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, tumble through.
You stride up to your speed.
During this movement, you can try to move through the space of one enemy.
Attempt an acrobatics check against the awesome dragon's reflex DC.
It's weird that they wrote awesome dragon.
Oddly specific.
In the text of the spell.
You can tumble through using client flies.
specific in the text of the spell.
You can tumble through using client flags.
Yeah, so it's acrobatics against the
reflex DC of the
dragon. It's not crazy, because
if you get in there, you can
do it. I have an okay
acrobatics. What's your acrobatics? It's acrobatics.
It's a plus 12. Acrobatics, plus
12. So, natural
twanzone.
Yeah, I mean, I think the similar vein to what Aldo is feeling, you're like, this is going to be tough.
Okay, well.
But you do have a, we have not abolished bottle caps yet in this game.
You do have a fresh cap.
Joe is vehemently shaking his head not to use my bottle cap on this.
You don't use a bottle cap when only a natural 20 is the only thing that will work on this.
But you don't know that that's the case.
It could be an 18, 19, 20, 17, 19.
Joe, don't be such a Debbie Downer.
I'm just guessing that this dragon has a reflex save in the 20 plus range.
Let the cap economy flow.
Okay.
That's true.
I'm not using a bottle cap.
Joe talked me out of it with a simple head shake.
I rolled a natural 17
So it's a 29
Great shot
That's a fail
Damn it
Alright well
I did my best
I did my best I did my best
Yeah yeah
But now
I think it just ends
Your movement
And then you can
You have two more actions
Failure
Your movement ends
And you trigger reactions
As if you had moved
Out of the square
You started in
And as Matthew alluded to
As if it was
Chekhov's gun
I wonder if this dragon
Has an attack
Of opportunity
Oh no
It does
Oh Zookster How do we end Last week's episode Oh no I wonder if this dragon has an attack of opportunity. Oh, no, it does. It does.
Oh, Zookster.
How did we end last week's episode?
Oh, no, I knew you were going to do this right now.
I knew you were going to do this right now. Did Zookie do something weird?
She did it again.
We'll see you next week.
Zookie, you did it again.
Yeah, you did it again.
I'm the closer.
I just know how to end these episodes.
You're the closer. just know how to end this episode you're the closer
it was DC 30
so Natty 18 would have done it
I would have done it
I said 20 plus reflex save
it was 20
20 reflex save
bye Suki
thanks
thanks
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