The Golden Hour - Episode 97: A Central East Thanksgiving with Hannah Baron & Jelly Roll
Episode Date: November 27, 2020The guys are in Tennessee for a special Nashville King And The Sting featuring Music Artist Jelly Roll and Catfish Noodling Queen Hannah Barron. They talk Hot Chicken, Catfish, Ni...ck's Vest Addiction Southern Music and more! Also, they debut 2 songs off the upcoming King and The Sting Album, "Rat King" featuring Jelly Roll and Lil Brows and "Hannah Barron" featuring Lil Brows and Chin.Kats Merch - https://KATSmerch.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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watching y'all's whole movement.
I call,
I look at all y'all as like all y'all comedians that I know are tight as one
thing.
And just watching the progression of how everybody's going.
Like,
you know,
inevitably 12 to 24 months from now,
Shob's on.
Vernon's going to die.
For sure.
You know what I'm saying?
Back off my broccolini.
Get your life together. It is. Don't touch broccolini. Get your life together.
It is.
Don't touch me, bro.
I'm not touching you.
Show on up.
Dude, I put out 25 music videos this year.
Oh, I tried to fucking watch all of them.
Yeah, they're fucking.
Jesus Christ, man.
It's a war thing, right?
I made it through about four and a half.
Well, I'll take that.
Your light's on, Joe.
Your light's on there.
Oh, thank you.
They're good.
It's just as much as I can see.
Yeah, yeah. You know, you can't watch another man for that long. Yeah, I don't know a lot of man Your light's on, though. Your light's on. Oh, thank you. They're good. It's just as much as I can see. Yeah, yeah.
You know, you can't watch another man for that long.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm a lot of man to watch, though, baby.
I feel like I get a little extra space because of the space.
You know what I'm saying?
You never get enough jelly, though.
That's what my mom used to always say.
I'm sure you've had enough jelly in your freaking day.
Brennan used to freaking lie.
I don't want to call him out in front of everybody, but I always do.
No, please do.
Brendan would suck the jelly out of the donuts and then just leave the casings in there.
Yeah, and say they're glazed.
Yeah.
I don't want to hear everybody glazed.
Like, damn, these glazes have kind of like a grape spot on the edge.
That's pretty interesting. these glazes have kind of like a grape spot on the edge. That's pretty interesting.
These glazes are destroyed.
Dude, sitting here with two, I mean, this is pretty crazy to have you guys in here today for the show, man.
Dude, thank y'all, man.
I was really shocked when they hit me.
I was like, oh, this is fucking great.
And then I seen Chappelle was in town.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, that's even cooler that I get to get in the culture corner and Chappelle's here.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, yeah, well, Chappelle couldn't make it if I could call Jelly.
Oh, you're four times blacker than Chappelle.
Yeah, that was our thinking with that.
We wanted to mix it up.
They call Chappelle Albino Jelly.
He's definitely more of the white grape.
Did y'all get to hear the record yet?
No.
I deal with brows?
No.
Y'all didn't hear it yet?
I heard a little bit of the track.
Really?
Yeah.
That was actually first on the docket.
It was his track.
It is?
Yeah, the video.
Oh, shit.
So one guest at a time.
We got Jelly Roll here today, obviously.
Thanks for being here today, man.
Legend.
Yeah, thank y'all, man.
Yeah, man.
And it's cool.
It's in Nashville, man.
You're in my backyard, dude.
I know.
It's cool.
He's a Nashville local now.
Yeah, dude.
I love it.
He showed me around last night.
By showing around, he's like, this is Zany's.
Yeah.
I'd like to really show y'all around.
Let me know, man.
We'll go wherever you want to go, dude.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
Yeah, I'll go do something, man.
Yeah, I...
You need to learn your town, man.
I know, Brendan.
I almost hit you and said we should do a food truck while you're out here,
even if it's not for camera, just to go do one.
You know what we're doing tomorrow?
I'm doing a show called Thick Eats, and I'm looking for the best Nashville chicken hot
sandwich.
Oh, dude, I can plug you.
Oh, let's do it.
Yeah, because they're going to send you to the chain spots, and I'm going to send you
to the real spots.
That's like, listen, I don't want to shit on Hattie B's because it's like a staple in
our city.
But please do.
I'll shit on Hattie B's, right?
Yeah.
It's not where the local guy would go.
You know what I mean?
Oh, dude, say less.
I'll take you there.
Because I know they're like, we'll go to heady bees yeah no it's like dude
we're gonna go to like boltons or princes out in antioch or something yeah people said princes too
it was the original it started hot chicken now they closed down the original location but they
have one kind of towards antioch which is what we're doing it's the spot yeah boltons is right
down the street from here oh game even closer it. Even closer. It's fucking fire. Is it?
You should know this, man.
Have you had smoking thighs right by your house yet, dog?
I went in there one time.
I got in a slight argument with an angry woman that was working there.
Dude, they got Kool-Aid, man.
They do?
And it's fucking real.
It's like the Kool-Aid I grew up on. What flavor?
It's more.
Every kind of flavor, dog.
They got goddamn grape, fruit fucking punch.
Dude, it's a fat man's dream, dog.
I go in there and just fuck up Kool-Aid, man. Yeah. I swear, dude. It's like, it's a fat man's dream, dog.
I go in there and just fuck up Kool-Aid, man.
I swear, dude, it's like seven Kool-Aids a day, dog.
You're like my spared animal.
Dude, it's like nothing but sugar.
You need to step your goddamn game up in Nashville, man.
Yeah, God, jelly rolls, too.
Dude, I'm going to be jelly rolling in like 10 years.
Get some tats.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, I got to figure it out. Yeah, I don't know anything i i what do i what have i been to here uh yeah zany's and then barbecue i've been to edley's barbecue
that's cool yeah you hit martin's yet uh went to martin's yeah okay it was good you've hit the
barbecue spots yeah so that's pretty much about it really. You haven't been to no meat and threes yet?
Oh, Bubba, we got to go to the soul food spot, the meat and three.
Yeah, so dude, I got to take you to one of these.
These are classic.
You know, this is a southern fucking tradition, man.
So it's like, you know what a meat and three is, right?
You should.
You're from the number one.
No, you're more Cajun, so I get it.
You get a meat and you get them side ice.
Yeah, but you walk through.
Is one of them a cornbread, though?
I don't like a cornbread.
Yeah, we call it soul food my whole life.
Yeah.
Well, dude, it's got 20 sides to pick from, and they're just fall, dude.
We call it combo meal where I'm from.
Combo meal, dude?
That's fucking gay, bro.
We call it home cooked.
And no offense to anybody who's gay, though.
This is home cooked.
I have a feeling your combo meals are like chicken dinners and a biscuit or something.
Yeah, that's fair.
No, this is a totally different thing.
This is like some old woman in the back that's done nothing but cook for 50 fucking years.
Oh, dude.
That's what you eat too, Hannah?
They put their foot in it.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know why I'm so short, though.
I've been eating so good my whole life, I ought to be at least a foot taller.
Maybe you've been eating short items.
Have you eaten a lot of broccoli like uh a lot of catfish
broccoli sprouts catfish has stunk your growth a lot of protein what that's what i heard catfish
will not stunt your growth really that's a bullhead that's the rumor bullhead maybe no one
yeah are you eating those things man we eat some of them okay but we can't eat all of them like the
first few years we started doing it i was like 15 we ate every one of them and i got so sick of
eating catfish did
you yeah oh i'd let somebody else eat it and spit it into my mouth honestly like a baby bird yes
brendan i'll do that you're not doing it i'll do it for you huh it's a woman that's gonna do it
all right there we go maybe you weren't trying to give me a favor you were trying to get a taste
of my fish you little bastard. I know your fucking game.
Brennan used to do that.
He was like, hey, let me taste it, and then I'll spit it into your mouth, and he never would.
That's why I'm so big now, though.
It's a game people cut on, though.
We got jelly roll here, man.
Hannah, are you frying them or blackening them?
Yeah, Hannah, give us a lowdown.
That's Hannah Behrens here.
I'm so excited to have her here.
Yeah, give us the freaking lowdown, because you can't just be catching them bitches and doing nothing.
Bring up one of those fish, Nick, if we can.
One of them suckers with the whiskers.
Oh, dude, they're fucking gone.
But you've got to clean them a certain way.
Oh, wait.
So take us through it.
Sorry.
All right.
So when you catch them and you hang them up, you've got to cut their tail off and let them bleed while you skin them.
And they're alive when you do that?
Oh, no.
They're dead by then. And what do you hang them up with like a clothes hanger no we have like a hook that
one was actually 56 pounds that one looks like my step grandpa it's bigger than my bulldog that one
looks like one of theo's ex-girlfriends in memory oh dang that thing's half as big as my dick
um yeah that's probably my that's my third biggest catfish the big blue up there is my second
how many rounds did you go with it was this a three round or was this main card
this one i had i think i went down four times before i actually got a hold to it and every time
the blue cats bite really hard and that one's blue the one y'all had before was a flathead
and their whiskers they they sting, right?
They don't, actually.
Stupid.
Not on freshwater fish.
But those fins, those spines they got on the side, they can get you sometimes.
I had a channel cat fin go about three-quarters of an inch inside of my elbow.
So how do you take them out, Hannah?
Like, when you catch it, do you just,, like what are we, is your papa there just
elbow dropping that thing?
No, so you go under the water.
I want to just go a little bit more into it.
So you go under the water.
Yes.
And then what's happening down there?
You just kind of whistling or something?
A lot of these, we either have boxes out or we check natural holes like boat ramps.
We don't go in the bank because that's a little sketchy and we ain't got
that hungry yet yeah so amen the most fun are the boxes because you can just stick your arm in there
and they're attacking you wow and you're getting the elbow deep in those things sometimes like
that fish right there every time was biting me up to my forearm and i had my hand in a fist because
sometimes they can break your fingers damn so i had my hand in a fist because sometimes they can break your fingers. Damn. So I had my hand in a fist when I went in.
And every time it was biting me up to my forearm.
And they're so quick, I couldn't grab nothing.
And who's this guy?
Where did y'all meet?
That's Colt Hooker.
We actually met through noodling.
Damn.
Oh, I guess, yeah, if you're under there, whoever you see, you got to say hello to.
We've got a bunch of buddies that we go with.
Oh, damn.
Oh, damn.
No snorkel or nothing.
Just fucking bobbing.
That one was a shallow hole, though, so it was nice.
Murky waters, though, huh?
Yeah.
Always.
You can't see.
You just close your eyes and hope for the best.
Yeah, Brennan, this isn't at a fucking Hilton, dude.
They're not doing this at a damn pool.
Well, then you've never seen catfishing in four seasons.
Brennan is such a wimp, dude.
Brennan wants to do this at a damn holiday and select over here dude this is a
real natural water man it's brackish brother yeah it was so cold that day i think it was 64 degrees
that was early in the year that's why i got that wetsuit on because it was so cold and so is this
the time of year to go when the water's cold like this oh it's when it starts getting when it starts
warming up like spring of the year and then the summer but that was just us wanting to go when the water's cold like this? It's when it starts getting, when it starts warming up, like spring of the year and then
the summer. But that was
just us wanting to go ahead and get in the water.
Do we acknowledge that Nick looks like an extra from Animal House right now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Heavy on the animal.
Less house. We started the
Tank Top Trend last episode, and it's
Thanksgiving episode, so I thought I'd get fancy.
That's a vest, brother. No, he's wearing a sweater
vest without a sweater. I thought it was awesome. It was mighty white trash.
I felt right at fucking home.
I'm like, alright, I'm amongst my people.
I love it. Honestly, it's my
girlfriend's because I forgot one.
She's like, oh, I got one for you. Oh, damn.
Ralph Lauren. Yeah, you look like
one of those... The private school edition.
Yeah, you look like
sometimes at Christmas they would dress up the
Shoney's Bears. Remember at Shoney's they used to have them little teddy bears at the front oh my god i loved shonies god
it was just shut down a bunch of them yeah broke my fucking heart god they were make sense though
you know they were good they were they were okay no they were horrible but it was the vibe yeah i
remember back when shonies had a smoking section and my mother was that was always our thing anyway
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We'd be there, and she'd be just chain-smoking and eating biscuits.
She wore a nightgown there still.
She didn't even get fucking dressed.
She's in her muumuu.
I'm in my Sunday best, and she's kicking around in a muumuu just chain-smoking at Shoney's.
Oh, dude, I fucking miss Shoney's, man.
Kids will never know that feeling.
You know what I'm saying?
These little bitches over at panera bread dude
dude shonies would rape a panera bread 100 oh yeah for sure yeah no
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So, Hannah, can you go back to that original one, Nick, that you showed up there?
Is it picture or video?
The picture.
Is it off-season right now, Hannah?
It is.
Yes, Brendan.
Why, she might be doing the ice.
She might do ice cap fishing.
So the thing with noodling is you can only catch them when they're bedding.
So they're spawn.
Oh.
And they only bed when the water's a certain temperature, kind of like bass and other fish.
That's when women always catch a dog when you're bedding, bro.
Yep.
That's when you get busted.
Now this one right here looks like a little bit like that Tony...
It looks like Tony Ferguson after that Ferguson-Gaethje fight a little bit.
A little bit.
This one looks like it's just been busted in the head.
It has some bloody spots.
What is that from?
That is bedding sores.
That's when they go in the boxes or wherever their bedding area is.
They'll get in there and they'll try to fan it out and clean it out as best they can where they lay their eggs.
And while they're doing that, they're rubbing their head on the concrete or the top of the box or whatever it is.
And it gives them those bed bugs.
So like battle scars.
It's either that or where another catfish bit them
because you'll find them sometime with big old bite marks and stuff.
And is there a lot of beef in those water streets?
A lot of what?
Is there a lot of catfish?
Oh, yeah.
A lot of catfish.
Very similar, though, a little bit.
That's close.
That's a good call.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Respect that. Now, have you ever caught that man underwater? Not yet. Not yet. I would be surprised. He would, a little bit. That's a good call. Thank you. Yeah. Respect that.
Now, have you ever caught that man underwater?
Not yet.
Not yet.
I would be surprised.
He would be a blue cat.
Yeah, he would.
He's a legend right there.
So what do you catch in the off season?
You just take it off?
Or we just don't.
We go hunting or something during the off season.
Right.
And so now when you get one of those and you can cook it,
and this is where we'll really tie things right back into jelly roll.
Thank you.
But when you cook it, what can you cook?
Take me through that again.
Okay, so with the flatheads or the blue cats, when we hang them up, when they get that big, they'll have like a muddy taste to them if you don't clean them right.
Wow.
Because they are so old and they're in the dirty water and all that good stuff.
But we cut their tail off
and you can cut like the sides they're fillets and we've had fillets that are that big off fish
and the belly meat we call them the nuggets oh yeah and the nuggets on them flatheads are
so good are they tender oh yes but then we cut all the red meat off of it all the lining
everything until it's just the white meat left
cut it into little strips soak it in hot sauce we use frank's red hot oh my fave and then deep fry
and garlic salt it and it's so good damn it sounds good what do you do with the eyeballs
yeah it sounds like something we hadn't tried eyeballs yet no eyeballs we try our my granddad
he actually grew up in louis. That man can forevermore cook.
But he tried to get the meat off the heads and, like, boil it down, and it didn't work too good.
It's too much.
Yeah.
She don't eat the eyeballs.
Well, yeah, if you go over to Asia, they eat the whole damn thing.
Yeah.
You won't even see it.
Yeah, I haven't tried all that yet.
Yeah.
Oh, it goes straight from the river of the stomach.
Yep.
There's no...
That sounds delicious, though, man.
I wish we brought that for Thanksgiving.
Oh, Asian Digestive Track like a damn chop shop, dude.
Yeah, it does.
They'll fucking pull a fin right off of that bitch.
They'll fucking sell the rearview mirrors off that bastard, you know?
And here's a picture of me and if Brennan's brother Jay Shaw had a son.
So we mentioned Jelly Roll did a track with Browz,
and this is it in the video uh it will be
on the cat's album that is released december 10th little pre-story to that you know i watch the show
i'm a fan of the show i actually watch the show right and at the end of one of the episodes
shaw was like yeah yo the first video y'all had and shaw was like yeah we're trying to get jelly
roll to mike stud on there and i was like oh fuck this is great i'm in so i looked up who brows was
and shot him a message like yo send a rec whatever he was like you're kidding i was like no i'm dead
serious dog shoot that motherfucker over let's do it man that's awesome man yeah it's super cool
mike stud's in too he's doing he's doing it now i love mike stud
i loved how swampy this night was.
I haven't heard this. Doing some amazing shit. Damn.
Shit hard, right?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, I'm talking about the Rat King Papa named him Theodore
You may know him as Theo Vaughn
Off the top like three fedoras
Quicker than a cheetah gone
When he walks up in the spot
All the people stop what they doing
Cause they never seen nobody do it better than him
Everybody know that he incredible
Quick with the wordplay
Leader of the syllables
Rest in peace to Billy
Don't you drive and pop them pills
Amen, bro, I'll be
Or you'll get lost up in them hills
It's the vermin with the sermon, it's the mullet with the strap
Don't matter what year it is, cause it's the year of the rat
It's the legend of the rat, kid
Oh, that's hype, man.
Yeah.
It's the legend of the rat, kid
The second half of this chorus is my favorite.
You go back in on it?
No, no, I just love his brows cadence right here.
It's the year of the rat now.
That shit was dope.
That's what sold me on the record.
And he left that party in the back now.
Rat King.
I love this dude, man.
I don't know where y'all found him, but I love him.
He's a hard hitter, bro.
Yeah.
You know where we found him is we did a white rapper contest.
Oh, that's fucking good.
And he just dominated.
You weren't allowed to be in.
Yeah, you're too good.
You'll be the judge next year.
Yeah, I'm in, dude.
100%.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
It's like American Idol, but all white rappers.
Yeah, and I'm like the king of white trash.
That works out perfect.
Oh, dude, you're already on the curve.
Tell me about this, though, Jelly Roll.
So, yeah, you just started taking your stuff and just creating your own videos, right?
Yeah, man.
So, we do you just started taking your stuff and just creating your own videos, right? Yeah, man. So we do it all independent.
It was like the elevator story is I was a drug dealer, right?
I've been in prison and out of prison a whole lot and just constantly fucking off.
And I had a daughter while I was in prison.
There was a young lady that was pregnant when I got incarcerated.
So when I came home, the kid was like fucking two.
And I was like, dude, I got to do something.
You know what I'm saying? I got to figure this shit out. So I started selling mixtapes out of fucking two. And I was like, dude, I got to do something. You know what I'm saying?
I got to figure this shit out.
So I started selling mixtapes out of the trunk.
And this was like 12 years ago.
Oh, yeah.
And I started 10 years ago, 11 years ago.
I started selling mixtapes out of the trunk and just built it really brick by brick and slowly.
I had the most simple philosophy in the world.
I was a rap fan and a rock fan.
So I wanted to release music like a rapper.
And I wanted to tour like a rocker because
you know you watch them they do two totally different things rappers we got a new song
every fucking week right and rock and roll guys fucking do 300 shows a year you know what i'm
saying so i was like i just want to do those too so it's kind of my idea damn i just kind of kept
building and kept chucking at it and you know fucking that many years later me and my wife
have full custody of that same little girl. You know what I'm saying?
That's my little roadie.
If you check my Instagram, you'll always see my...
Is it just the one?
She didn't have to go to school.
She'd have been with me today.
Well, I got two.
Oh, duh.
But I got full custody of this one, me and my wife.
Oh, yeah.
That's her.
That's the roadie, man.
That's my little road dog right there.
She's flying.
She got a little bit of lip gloss right there or something.
Yeah, man.
She's getting old, dude.
She's almost 13, man.
Wow.
Speaking of Alabama, the first comment you see
is my buddy Yeller Wolf.
He's from down there by you,
by the way.
Well, not far.
He's from Gaston.
I like Yeller Wolf, too, man.
Yeah, that's my homie.
We need to get him on one of these
next time he's in town, man.
How about The Rock?
Oh, that's my buddy, man.
That's my dog.
Yeah, that's my Bubba, man.
I love that guy.
That's crazy, man.
It's so cool that he listens
to my music because I've like,
me and my daughter
go watch all of his movies.
Of course, I fucking watched him
at wrestling back in the day, right?
George Lockhart is my other buddy.
I remember when The Rock came
back one time. I was at the wrestling.
I was at the dang wrestling,
bro, and The Rock. You were at the event? Yeah.
And The Rock came back and I remember there was a
Mexican father and son.
Seven-year-old son,
maybe 31-year-old dad, same height.
And they were wearing wrestling belts, just bawling, crying together.
Oh, yeah.
And I was just like, I've never seen anything like this.
There ain't no fan like a WWE fan.
Bawling, crying when he came back into the ring just standing there.
He'd die hard.
Yeah, it was pretty crazy, man.
People love wrestling.
No, I'm such a huge fan of The Rock, man.
And he's just like probably, he's like one of the most genuine dudes I've ever met the rock and the roll baby you know you know he's got history here that's
kind of how we got connected oh no big history so he lived here during his teenage years
and uh he went to juvenile here if i believe the story was correct he was like 16 17 running
through the honky tonks downtown on broadway he talks about it all the time man so he's like when
he heard my music and seen i was from nash me and my buddy Struggle, he was like, oh, fuck.
He sent me a message.
He was like, dude, I get it.
I'm like one of the people that understands white trash like you
because I lived in Nashville, so I get your culture.
I was like, that's so dope.
I just can't believe I'm one of the 200-something people you followed.
That's dope.
That's crazy, man.
I'm like a big kid.
Every time he comments, I still take a screenshot like I don't know him
and go show everybody.
Like, I commented on my post there.
Like, shit's getting old.
We're over.
Like, fuck you, I'm not.
Like that South, like, white trash culture, right?
It kind of, like, boomed with Bubba Sparks.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, Bubba was definitely, you know, on the forefront of that.
We actually had a local guy here named Haystack that was at the very beginning of it, too.
Oh, really?
Can we pull up a little bit of Haystack?
I'd love to see some of that.
And Struggle Jennings is the guy that you roll with.
Yeah, that's my best friend, man.
He's actually Waylon Jennings' grandson.
Oh, wow.
He's Jesse Coulter's grandson.
Is that Struggle Jennings?
Yep, Struggle Jennings, too, man.
He's worth looking up.
You get a chance to look up Struggle, too.
He's a man.
And Haystack is dead?
No, Haystack's alive.
He was just like, you know, he's probably 10 years older than me.
And was he doing drugs or not?
Yeah, yeah, he's definitely.
We all have fucking fucked off, so.
Because you just have to get. I think I'm more down, you know.
I think I'm doing more than him probably right now.
Where did you?
But you got to.
I was trying to eventually get to that needle in the haystack joke,
but it just.
That's an old heroin joke.
Where did you and haystack meet up?
So it was a car show.
We used to have a car show here here and i was going to pass out mixed
i was actually on a uh i was at a halfway house for kids i was like 15 and i was going up there
to pass out my little cd that i recorded at the halfway house and i just met him at a booth and
shit and i was like he was the man at the time he was the man at the time dude he took me right
under his wing and it's like i've always been one of those dudes that i thought shit could happen
if i seen somebody make it happen yes like you know what i'm saying does that make sense so it's like i'm like the dude that's like i meet a dude
and go well if he did it i can do it you know what i'm saying so when i met him i was like oh
this is possible yes like i can really make this shit happen of course it took 20 fucking years
i relate to that yeah but it happened and everything takes 20 years man yeah that's
you know the what they call the 10-year overnight success story yep yeah people only see the the immediate success they don't see the you don't see little hannah at 12 fishing with
her dad and 10 and 8 and 7 casting a reel in a little pond you know you don't see that you just
see the girl that's got fucking almost a million followers on there with a goddamn cat piss the
size of my stomach yeah you know what i'm saying you're like god she just started fishing yesterday
like fuck she did she's probably been fishing since she was three. Yeah. And is Bubba Sparks still on the scene?
Is he still doing the damn thing?
Yeah, Bubba's still around too, man.
It's funny.
The culture is still...
Does he live in Tennessee or no?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he was here recently, so I'm not sure.
We did a few tours together.
We hadn't spoke recently.
You know Brian Cowan was in his music video.
Was he really?
Yeah.
Right?
He was in Miss New Booty.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
We're going to see that right now.
When we toured together every night when he did Miss New Booty, it was like the most reluctant thing of his life, but he did it.
To sing it?
Yeah, because it's like one of those songs.
Especially for who he is as a human, it is totally not who Bubba is.
How so?
He's just like ugly.
You remember Ugly?
Yeah.
That's Bubba.
That's Bubba.
You know what I'm saying?
Great song.
Yeah.
I found you.
Oh, yeah.
I couldn't see that. I found you, Mr. yeah, I could see that.
I would vomit in my nuts every time somebody invited me to sing that.
He'd bring fat girls on stage and he'd sing it every night.
It was fucking hilarious.
I'd be like, are you intentionally looking for girls my size?
He's like, shit, everybody's lean out here.
The general throwing a wig, baby.
And this is the one with him in it right here
Please make some noise for my friend
Bubbles in shape yeah bubbles in shape I saw him on that noisy
He's in shape now.
Yeah, Bubba's in shape.
Because I saw him on that Noisy on Vice.
You were on that too.
He's in shape now.
Yeah, he's in shape now.
It's not the same, dude, when people that are big get in shape.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that right now.
And even though, and this Brian, how many of you have hair?
Can we go back and just look at that and pause it right there for a second?
Bubba was thicker.
Brian had hair, man.
Yep.
Times have changed. Yeah, what a crazy thing. But yeah, all of us are still here, man. Yep. Times have changed.
Yeah, what a crazy thing.
But yeah, all of us are still here, man.
We're all still rapping.
Wow.
Wow.
How crazy is that?
Is that real hair?
I doubt it.
That's a wig.
Yeah.
Brian's always had bad hair.
Damn.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
He was never really young.
Never.
There's no pictures of him as a kid.
Unbelievable, man.
Yeah, I can't even imagine having to sing Mystery Movie.
It's almost just like
when you have to do a joke
that you just are like,
oh, I hate doing this act out
or doing this bit.
And they yell it out.
Like, Burt has to do
the machine joke.
Yeah.
Every show he goes to,
they're like,
machine!
He's like, god damn.
Here we go.
One time I got caught
with the Russian mob
and he's got to go through
all over again.
Yeah, mystery the whole bit. Talk about selling ham hamsters yeah yeah you get that all the time yeah sometimes
you have to do the talk go through the hamster times you know and it's fun but after you just
said it a million times you know well i guess it's also got to be like in my business at least
it's what's like for that record for bubba and i shouldn't speak this much on his shit but
for a record that probably didn't feel as true to him.
Now, of course, he made so much money off of it.
He's probably like, fuck yeah, I'll sing it when I'm 90.
Yeah.
But for me, it's like my music's so personal.
If I accidentally ended up putting out a record that exploded that wasn't me, and here I am
singing it every night, I'd be like, oh my God.
That's why I don't understand these country music dudes.
I'm like, how can you have the nerve to go in here and sing a song another man wrote you wasn't even in the room it'd just be like you memorizing your favorite
tupac song going and rapping and being like this is my song you know what i'm saying it's like
you're a married dude and your song's about having a friday night with a girl you're like dude you're
fucking married and weird and you're you know what i'm saying like this is fucking weird to me a lot
of country music guys they go for the right reasons.
They're doing, like, real country.
And then when they blow up, it's like pop music.
Exactly.
They get into, like, that other shit.
It's like, man, that's why I'm, like, more towards, like, Sturgill and that more, like.
That red dirt kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, that real, you know, that real shit that's, like, really got that.
You know, I love Texas country, man.
Red dirt.
You ever listen to Texas country music, dude?
Is George straight from Texas?
Oh, yeah.
Fuck yeah.
He's the OG Texas. He's the original Texas. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. country music, dude. Is George straight from Texas? Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. He's the OG Texas.
He's the original Texas.
Yeah, for sure.
Good reference, Nick.
Very good.
Hannah, when people see you on the street, all they ask about catfish, does that get
old as shit?
Sometimes, because they'll be like, you're the catfish girl.
They barely ever know my name.
And sometimes they're like, you're the girl.
And I'm like, what does that even mean yeah
what does that mean huh yeah that'll get you canceled the upside down piano player
what uh does somebody just say hey just put your arm in my mouth anybody say that i actually had
a dude a couple weeks ago asked to take a picture like he was biting my arm oh yeah oh wow i can see
that i could see that yeah uh and do you hide a little treat in your hand when you put it in the hole?
You don't have to.
You don't?
No, they're protecting their nesting area.
So when they bite, they're trying to kill you.
They're not biting for food.
They're trying to attack.
They are.
I'll tell you what, Hannah.
I'm from right here.
You're from down there.
And I'll tell you this much.
Next time a motherfucker has the audacity to call me country, I'm going to say, call
Hannah Barrett.
Siri, call Hannah Barrett.
Hey, Jelly Roll. I'll be like, ha-ha. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to say, call Hannah Barrett. Siri, call Hannah Barrett. Hey, Jelly Roll.
I'll be like, ha-ha.
That's country.
I know.
Oh, y'all have no clue.
Super country.
Y'all ought to hear my neighbors.
Now, do you listen to any country rap?
Yeah, what do you listen to?
Like Up Church, my buddy Up Church.
That's my buddy, man.
What's Up Church like, man?
He's the fucking man, dude.
I watch a lot of his stuff.
I watch a lot of his stuff all the time.
He's got some great music, though.
Yeah, whenever y'all want him.
Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. Some of his music's really good, man. Some of what I've heard. What his stuff all the time. He's got some great music. Yeah, whenever y'all want him.
Some of his music's really good, man.
Some of what I've heard is good.
You know what?
It's crazy.
His music's absolutely incredible, but it's his personality that just does it for you. He's a hard worker.
Yeah, this is funny.
Upchurch said, fuck it, he's dissing the whole country music industry.
Yeah.
But songs like Holler Boy, that's my shit.
Yeah.
Fuck award shows.
Fuck the radio. and a new up and
comer and his female clothes with his glitter on his face yeah he's great he's a big deal he
he's really huge man no he really that was a parody song i want you to hear what you actually
oh this is he really got famous on Vi. Funny, real
funny guy. Good kid. Young as a
motherfucker, by the way. Young, rich
motherfucker. I gotta hit him up.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I've never seen that by Brendan.
Who's that?
I've never seen that by Brendan who's that? Snake yeah he's an old country
motherfucker man
he's got a big farm
out in the country
yeah
he's killing it
that's why I looked at him
and was like
you got another
up here
up your fucking lane
you know what I mean
it's a good friend of mine
Adam Calhoun
all them guys man
they're all
Michael Knight
all the country rappers
they're all good friends of mine
they're good guys i like adam too and this might be an early cut of it too
yeah this is a very early cut yeah but um he's an interesting dude man he does they just he just went
on tour he always puts up some really cool tour stuff and he's he has a couple of albums that went
platinum a couple songs that went platinum he did man, man. He's got some records, man. That kid, he's built something that is in absolute sane.
Yeah.
It is so fun.
And he's such a good spirit, man.
Musicians can't really do any touring right now, especially a bigger music.
No, no.
It's over for us, dog.
We're fucked.
Yeah, we're screwed, screwed, man.
What's that country music artist?
He looks like Theo Whalen?
Morgan Wallen.
Yeah, Morgan Wallen.
Yeah, yeah.
Morgan Wallen.
He's supposed to come in here on Monday. Oh, I love him. That'll be dope, man. Love him. He's got a record coming out. He's really Theo Whalen. Morgan Wallen. Yeah, Morgan Wallen. Morgan Wallen. He's supposed to come in here on Monday.
Oh, I love him.
That'll be dope, man.
Love him.
He's got a record coming out.
He's really good, man.
He's identical.
Well, he looks different.
I have more of the lesbian mullet.
He has more of the actual mullet right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the new artist of the year, man.
Did you see what he did, though?
Because when Biden won, everybody had their mask off.
He was like, can we go on a fucking tour
for touring
yeah he was like
this is what you guys
are going to do
he goes
I need to feed my family
we're going on a fucking tour
yeah
dude you got to realize
man these
now he's streamed so much
you don't have to worry
about this
but a lot of these artists
who are in record deals
don't own their masters
and don't see the revenue
from their streaming as much
because they're so in debt
to the label
they count on that touring
wow
this is like
their whole fucking shit you know what I'm saying like merch label they count on that touring wow this is like their
whole fucking shit you know what i'm saying like merchant touring right yeah that's where musicians
make all their money this is where dudes are like hurting right now like i got homies that got number
ones on country radio that are calling me for loans yeah halsey was on a podcast armchair expert
with jack shepard and they're asking her how it works and she goes the first deal i did i only got 100 grand but at the time like we didn't think about streaming so she's like i wasn't getting
paid for streaming wow and she was streamed over six billion times she's like i didn't i didn't see
a dime of it yeah we're like me and church we're all independent struggle we're all independent so
it's like you know we see we see all of our money man yeah it's like that's not torn hurt me because
i could have made a lot more money this year you know what hurt me was i still pay the band as if we're
touring wow because i wouldn't you know they're the people who hurt the most right now that's who
my heart hurts for is the fucking guitarist the roadie the dude you don't see the carry the case
yeah you know the set the drums up that dude's fucking struggling man that's what he was counting
on so it's like you know but besides that we don't think about that it's like it's like as comics be on the road it's like i'm fine during the pandemic you know
it feels fine but it's like my opener my feature you know the managers they're they they really
need it like they're banking on it man you know what i pay the rent what i'm jealous of about
y'all's community and i don't use the word jealous very much y But I bet you do, though. Yeah, y'all are so fucking tight.
Jealous, I bet.
Yeah, anything with jelly in it.
Y'all are so fucking tight-knit.
It's like such a community.
You ever watch how comedians are like just fucking,
y'all all know each other.
It's all, let's lift each other up.
Let's put three or four.
Dude, I just seen the other day,
you got your whole crew down here for your Zany shows.
It's like that is so,
rappers are the fucking opposite music dudes are so they think it's a competitive thing it's a competition like for me to see five or six comedians in a room is like another day in
paradise if you see six of us in a room there might be a fight shortly thereafter yeah that's
an ego thing it's fucking horrible that's an ego thing i think and i'm constantly referencing
y'all's crew when i'm like why can't we fucking be the them of fucking music?
Yeah, but I think it takes someone who can make moves, who's killing it, to go, no, it's not a competition.
There's space for everybody.
And Theo's been in the game way longer than me, so I don't know how it was before I got there.
But Rogan's the one who was like, everybody can eat the pie here.
We're fine.
There's no reason to shit on each other.
Well, Rogan had so many pies,
he couldn't, I mean, his table got full.
His pie falling off his fucking table.
He took all his pie to Texas.
I love Rogan,
but it's the more mentality that y'all have.
Well, podcasting helped it.
Podcasting helped it.
Because we need each other.
Yeah, because then you start to need each other
and then you start to get to see each other.
Before that, it was like,
you'd be on the road
and you'd just see a picture on the wall
of your buddy that was there two weeks ago
and your other friend that was coming two weeks later
and you'd be like, that would be as close as you got
was looking at that picture.
But I think too, podcasting,
there's six years ago, five years ago,
not everybody was doing podcasts.
And so there's a few guys who had big podcasts.
So there's crazy talented dudes
like Theo came on Fighting the Kid
and was like,
holy fuck,
fuck the old guy
in this meathead.
Who's this dude?
Theo.
Yeah, who's this young thot?
Yeah.
Who's this young Instagram
thot with the blood ass?
Yeah.
It changed my life, man.
Going to Fighting the Kid
changed my life.
But even then,
we should have the same mentality
and I know a lot of musicians
listen to these things.
So please hear me out.
We should have the same mentality with us as far as music goes.
Support.
Because it's like, here's how Spotify works is just how YouTube works, right?
Like, the more you type in Theo and Brennan, y'all pop up together.
It's in the suggested feed.
The more records we all do together, the more that it continues to trigger the algorithms.
And it's like, you know, a lot of these dudes we see are like really my friends.
Like, we talk all the time.
But if you actually, we don't work together though.
It's like the weirdest thing ever.
It's like, and I'm the kind of dude, it's like you, like, I don't care where I land
out on the bill or how much I get paid.
If it pushes the culture forward, I've never done nothing for fucking money.
Ever.
My rule number one is if I'm doing it for money, I'm not fucking doing it.
Damn, I've done a lot of stuff for money.
Yeah.
I'm totally the fuck out of it.
Well, I did when that was my, you know, back then.
I was going to say about selling drugs.
Yeah, yeah.
But now it's like I never do nothing for money.
What's the real why here?
But it's also the real why, and it's like if you're surrounded with those creatives,
like you're going to up your game.
Period.
And then money comes.
He knows this.
I tell him, you know, I'm so grateful for Theo and Brian and Rogan, those guys.
Because when you're surrounded by that, you constantly got to step your game up.
Constantly, constantly, constantly.
I feel like I'm one of the few dudes that's sitting here right here at this podcast,
but most of my time talking about other rappers.
When I'm like, oh, you pull up Upturn, I'm like, no, pull up Hollerboys.
That's a big record.
Because it's like, as a writer, I'm impressed by that hook.
When you hear a good joke, you're like, ooh, I wish I wrote that, motherfucker.
You motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? That's how I, when one of the dudes writes a hell of a joke, you're like, Ooh, I wish I wrote that. Oh yeah. You motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, that's how I, when one of the dudes writes a hell of a song, I'm like, you son
of a bitch.
This is so good.
That's interesting.
Cause I don't know if I live in that space all the time.
I definitely respect it.
Just in that space of like, I should be more like, just that things aren't a competition.
I just think, cause one of the problems is, and it's not, and it might be a problem that a lot of people deal with,
but it's like you grow up,
and you have to have a chip on your shoulder.
You do.
You have to have an edge to want to.
You have to have that competitive.
I'm going to do better than them.
That's how you're going to get there.
But then you get to a place where you're like,
I don't have to be that way.
I can share.
I can be this way and that.
Right.
That's the way.
Next year, I've got to really focus more on that, man,
because you just feel better, too.
I came up battle rapping, so I get it.
Nothing's more competitive than fucking freestyling
against another grown man.
Oh, that's game.
Which I love.
And you can't talk.
So good.
I was the best in the city.
I was undefeated.
I was the fat dude that I knew you could only throw fat jokes
and I could roast you.
And I'd been in juvenile my whole life,
so I knew every joke that
ever came and you just had to make a good joke rhyme you know what i'm saying and most of the
time it was just pointing out the obvious yeah you know what i'm saying it was so fucking easy
but then you i think what changed it for us was not selling cds anymore we used to have to fight
for shelf space right like think about the idea that when you walked in a record shop there was
only so many cds you could get there they were there you had to fight to fight for shelf space, right? Like, think about the idea that when you walked in a record shop, there was only so many CDs you could get.
They were there.
You had to fight to be one of the CDs on that shelf, right?
It don't do people.
My dude, I don't know about y'all,
but my 12-year-old listens to music non-fucking-stop.
She walks around the house with her phone playing a playlist
and sets it on the counter of every fucking room she's in,
and it just plays.
And even when she's talking to me, she'll it down she won't turn it off she'll just
turn it to a low little level it's like we used to consume music one of two places the car or the
fucking house yeah that's it now we consume music everywhere you're just fucking you know people
streaming non-stop dude i'm out golfing the other day i golf by the way and i'm out golfing and this
old rich dude has got a fucking JBL thing,
like a fucking beat pill,
and he's playing fucking
like Kid Rock all day
on the golf course.
Kid Rock?
Yeah, I love Kid Rock,
by the way.
I also love Kid Rock.
He's so good, dude.
We had a Kid Rock denier
in the studio
a couple of weeks ago
from, uh,
named Andrew,
but we are not
Kid Rock deniers.
Oh, dude,
he's the GOAT.
He lives here, too, man.
Y'all should link.
I'll link you, too,
if you want to plug that in. That'd be great. He'd be funny. That'd be funny to have you and Kid Rock in together. Oh, dude, he's the GOAT. He lives here too, man. Y'all should link. I'll link you too if you want to plug that in.
That'd be great.
He'd be funny.
That'd be funny
to have you and Kid Rock
in together.
Oh, dude, we'd have a ball, man.
He's fucking great.
His best friend is Uncle Cracker,
which is Matt
and me and Uncle Cracker.
Follow me.
That's my buddy, man.
Yeah, this old motherfucker
texts me drunk at Taco Bell
like every three nights.
Damn.
He's fucking great, man.
He's a sweetheart, dude.
What's this, Nick?
Is this Hannah Bairn? Is she aware of this? I don't think she is. He's fucking great, man. He's a sweetheart, dude. What's this, Nick? Is this,
is Hannah been,
is she aware of this?
I don't think she is.
Have you seen this, Hannah?
I have not.
Oh, this is so good. We're going to get into this.
Hold on,
I'm trying to think
there was one other thing
that I was going to say
before we got into it.
What were we just talking about?
Kid Rock.
He's got a place in Troy.
That's where I live.
Yeah.
That's where you live
in your Troy, Alabama?
And is that named after Troy from Greece?
Possibly
Are you near Enterprise?
Yeah
I am close to Enterprise
My grandmother died in Enterprise
Oh hell yeah dude
I don't mean that in a morbid way
My grandfather died
That's where she spent her last years
My grandfather died
How far is Huntsville from you, Hannah?
Pretty far
That's at the top of Alabama
What about Red Bay, Alabama?
Are you familiar with that?
I'm not sure where that is.
I know where Red Level's at.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
But I'm close to Enterprise.
I was in Dothan the day before yesterday.
I know all about Dothan, too.
Yeah, my sister lived down there for a while.
We had a lot of kin down there in Dothan and Enterprise.
I don't know why I didn't correlate that's the part of fucking Alabama you was in.
Well, you're right. You're a map dot, dude.
It's fucking, you were down there in BFE, man.
What about, and you
were just hunting somewhere, too. So when
the fishing dries up, you really, you fish
on the fields. You go mammal. And what are you
guys doing out there? Well, we go
everywhere. I've been to
Kentucky. I actually got my
biggest deer this year with Bo
in Kentucky. Do a lot of bow hunting.
He was in full velvet.
If y'all know what that means.
That's his antlers, right? Yeah, where they're growing and he
hadn't shed his velvet yet.
I thought you said it out on Graceland or something.
Because in Kentucky, they have
an early season where you can actually kill
them for about a week when they're still
in velvet. We've got some
land out in Kansas that we've hunted every year for four years.
And I got a good one out there.
My dad is actually still in Kansas.
Is your dad the one who puts it all together?
Like, is your dad like, we're doing this, we're hunting here?
Like, your dad maps it all out?
We both kind of do, yeah.
And you name it or you just shoot them?
You guys don't name them, huh?
Name the deer?
Well, actually, I? Name the deer.
Well, actually, I did name my deer that I killed in Kentucky because the first day we were hunting there, I saw him,
and he had like half a tail.
He never got close enough for me to shoot with a bow,
so I named him Spanky because he only had half a tail.
Do you get hate on these posts, Hannah, when you post animals dying?
Oh, yeah, a lot of it.
I feel like the animal post hate has changed.
Like two, four years ago, that was the big thing.
And now that's not the big thing anymore.
And the thing is, is most of the people that are giving you all this hate go to the grocery store and buy hamburger meat.
Yeah, correct.
And there is no difference other than I know where mine came from.
I know mine didn't suffer at all.
I know how it was processed and everything.
Yeah, that was my Kansas buck.
If you can tell, his face is white because he was so old.
Oh, wow.
That was probably the oldest deer I've ever killed.
And that's the way to go is killing those old bucks
because they'll fuck up the younger bucks and it's an issue.
They're so smart, so it's like really accomplishing something.
And they're easy to catch.
You get onto the YMCA, they're changing in the bathroom, you've freaking gone to bam.
My dad made a joke saying he had two does out there chewing up corn for him.
Is it mostly bow hunting you do?
I do both.
I killed an elk in Idaho this year with a rifle.
I'm not allowed to be around a firearm, but I want to go bow hunt bad.
Oh, you would love it.
Yeah.
You feel more, or I feel more accomplished.
Damn, look at that.
Jesus Christ, what is that thing?
That's the elk in Idaho.
And I actually went to Hell's Canyon, Idaho.
And that place is named rightfully so because there is no flat ground.
That is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life because we packed out three elk on that trip.
Wow.
We stayed there like seven days, packed out three elk on our backs, up and down mountains.
And I saw Cameron Haynes, I think, doing that recently on his IG.
Explain that to us, packing it out.
So those animals are obviously too big to drag, and you're out in the middle of nowhere.
So you got to dress in the field.
You do.
You have to quarter them up.
I know what it is, Brendan.
Cut the legs and all off, quarter them up, and then the choice cuts, like their back straps, tenderloins.
Now, when that blood gets a-flowing, then do the other animals, like the bears and stuff, smell it?
So you got to get out of there?
I hadn't hunted out west enough to actually see the bear.
Can you drink any of the blood?
I hadn't tried that yet.
You know, in some countries, they'll drink some of it in Africa.
Ceremonial kind of stuff.
Transylvania.
Oh, yeah.
Well, let Hannah hear this.
This is what we got for you, Hannah.
Oh, Lord.
This song gives me chills.
And where's this coming from, Nick?
This is Little Brows and Chin.
Chin is so fucking talented, y'all.
I mean, guitar playing, singing, motherfucker, dude.
I was hoping he was here.
I'm like a low-key Chin fan.
Remember when I texted him, I was like, is Chin going to be there? I want to bring him here. Yeah, you'll see his big ass. Chin looks like, if you look at Chin, motherfucker dude i was hoping he was here i'm like a low-key chin fan remember i text you like
is chin gonna be there so i want to bring you see his big ass chin looks like if you look at chin if
you put he looks like a guy that would work at footlocker forever yeah like for a thousand years
like he's the great manager at footlocker yeah the great manager of footlocker that only stays
in the back and they only ask him it's a really important question he was on my flight actually
and uh i made him i was in back, and I just made him stand up
when everybody's sitting down and waving at me.
Dude, this is awesome having you guys here today, man.
Yeah, we really appreciate it.
Y'all don't know what this means to me, man.
I'm like a fan.
I'm Mr. Redneck from South Alabama,
so I think it's awesome.
But you've been doing some dirty stuff out there,
and people are seeing it.
So let's be honest.
We listen to y'all on the bus, man.
Boy, I'm about to risk it all.
I'm stuttering on the FaceTime call.
I swear I'm trying to play it all.
But I think I just fell in love.
With Hannah Baron, yeah love with Hannah Baron yeah
oh what's up girl fixing my grandparents roof today oh that's sweet of you
we are just still sitting here we're in the same place you left us in.
He's been waiting for you to call.
He's been patiently waiting.
Yeah, he's a little nervous.
Watch your fish, you made it down south, girl.
Pretty girl, close to Alabama.
Talk with some slang, do her thing.
Use that country grammar, fish and she hunt.
Hit the gym and she cut.
Plus she railed down to earth And she got a nice face
Everybody's staring when she walked up in the place
Theo started breathing heavy, look like he's a local saint
Oh girl, you know you got that Alabama twang
On a Joe Dirt road, make them all say dang
With a panda bear in the air
Panda bear in the air
She always needs a funny boy Panda bear in the air Panda bear in the air That's adorable. This is awesome.
Jen, that's his next part so hard.
So good.
That's a baby.
Damn.
You're wrecked, huh?
She's so happy to be bit by that fish.
God damn, bruh.
At least that fish is trying to make food. Oh, they all do. There goes chicken. Oh This is awesome.
That's adorable.
Look at that fish singing.
The fish is singing.
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How are you? I love how I still got the fish on my shoulder.
Oh, dude.
That's great.
There's Nick at the end, too.
That's amazing.
That was awesome.
And Papio did that, too? papio marty put in like the
real footage of us that's so good i don't even think brow's actually seen the version with that
real i've never seen that version yeah that's that's my favorite that's awesome isn't that good
yeah dude that's amazing able to do that that album is fire we got paul wall on it mike studs
gonna do a thickick Boy song.
Yeah.
It's good shit.
And then a bunch of originals from a bunch of our fans,
some of our favorites, Papa Bear, a bunch, all of them.
I can't wait.
Wow.
Y'all got like a December date on that, yeah?
December 10th, yeah.
That's what I thought.
I'm so excited for y'all.
I can't wait.
Dang, that's crazy.
Let me know, I'm going to pump it like it's my album, man.
Yeah.
Dude, that's awesome, man.
That's so crazy that they can do all of that. Oh, it's nuts. It's so crazy that they can that they
that they
can do all of that
it's so nuts
this came together
I just think it's so cool
that it's so themed around
you know y'all
and the whole
the whole vibe
and I just think it's cool man
cause like I do
we're musicians man
I don't
I don't listen to
I don't listen to much music
you know it's not
it's what I do
I don't want to be influenced
by what's happening now
you know what I'm saying
so I listen to music it's like shit from the 70s or something you know so we listen to podcasts on the bus It's what I do. I don't want to be influenced by what's happening now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, totally.
It's like shit from the 70s or something.
So we listen to podcasts on the bus.
You know what I'm saying?
That's like our thing as a crew.
We're comedy specials or just whatever, YouTube shit.
So it's really, really cool.
When they hit me, they're like, yeah, you want to do this?
I was like, yeah.
I didn't have to Google anything about Theo to write a verse about Theo.
I feel like I know enough about Theo.
I thought it was going to be a nightmare.
I had a line that I didn't get to squeeze in
where I was going to talk about
when you did the,
you was on shrooms or something
and did the stand-up thing.
I watched it on YouTube.
I've watched that a thousand times.
What else?
What else?
And I was going to do that,
but I was like,
I don't know, maybe not.
Dude, that was better than doing it on shrooms
than on coke, man.
I used to get up there on coke
and I just couldn't fucking.
You used to do stand-up on coke?
I couldn't tell when people,
like I would talk too fast and then I would usually know the time you got to wait
before you go into the next part right but you go in early and they'd fucking still be laughing
the lights would feel hot just fucked up stuff it fucks with my vocal cords when i try to sing
yeah yeah yeah i used to do dope before i went on stage and i was like i'll do that when i get off
now instead you just drink you drink now though yeah yeah i drink i drink what's your
drink of choice i'm a tequila guy man i'm a whiskey guy yeah i was a whiskey guy but just
dude it just my stomach and it just quit quit agreeing with each other one day randomly that's
true yeah i lived on whiskey and cheeseburgers forever you could tell i'm a stature of health
and uh just one day it just quit working for me. Just all of a sudden, just quit working.
Dang.
I went to a cardiologist because my heart went out of rhythm.
He said, you got to quit drinking.
I said, not going to happen.
Damn.
He said, no, you got to quit drinking.
It'll kill you.
I said, well, I'm going to die.
He said, well, if you're going to drink, drink tequila.
And I was like, cool.
So I drink nothing but tequila now.
Like The Rock, your boy.
Terramana.
That's all I drink.
I got 30 bottles of it at the house.
He sent me like 20-something bottles. Damn. it was crazy fedex kept coming i kept missing i was
like what the fuck is fedex i thought i was getting served or something i was like fedex
maybe i'm getting sued for a beat i didn't know or something you know but no i was fucking
a package do you drink at all henna not much yeah you can't catch those is it beer is it beer when
a lot of people said they have to be drunk to try to catch the fish.
Who's your favorite artist right now, Hannah?
Oh, Lord.
Yeah, what do you listen to, Hannah?
I listen to a lot of Texas country red dirt.
That's like what I'm into now.
Coe Wetzel dropped today.
Big shout out to Coe.
Oh, yeah.
Sellout.
Sellout.
It's so good.
I listened to it before I went to sleep.
He came noodling with us.
Really?
This past year.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen him.
He was down there.
Really?
I've seen him down there.
He goes down to Alabama a lot.
That's cool.
Yeah, he did good.
I'd love to go noodling with him.
Coe is the man. Well, y'all need to come this year. I've listened him. Really? He goes down to Alabama a lot. He did good. Coe is the man.
Well, y'all need to come this year.
I've listened to him, and he's got a really unique sound.
I was expecting something that I kind of heard before.
It's definitely different.
Yeah, he's a little high.
You know, when you look at him, he's a big mountain of a man.
Oh, Texas water.
You ever been to Stillwater?
I haven't.
Yeesh.
I thought it was more of a Texas thing, but just it's not the run-of-the-mill country that's on the radio.
I like that more.
And a lot of older rock.
I love Kobe.
It ain't me.
I love that song.
I love that.
Yeah, I love Cocaine and Diamond Rings.
Oh, yeah.
We just did a record together, man.
Who is it?
I love Kobe Cooper.
His name's Kobe Cooper, spelled with a K.
He's a young kid out of Texas.
Him and a co are really cool.
Damn.
Yeah, my dude down there, Big Jeb.
Shout out to Big Jeb.
He manages and works and books a lot of the max down there.
So I got really into, uh, cause I went to Montana.
I took the family to Montana.
I got really into Ryan Bingham.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Really into that.
Kind of the same sound.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Is it Tim Montana?
You ever heard of Tim Montana?
He's got that.
I got high song.
I love that guy too.
Have you heard of Giovanni and the hired guns?
Yep.
He's cool.
Yeah.
I'm a huge Morgan Wallen fan.
Love Morgan Wallen.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
But what else have I been listening to?
I can't believe you're having a month.
That's going to be dope.
Yeah, he was coming on Monday.
We went kayaking on the river a couple of weeks ago, which is pretty fun.
Yeah.
You and Morgan?
Yeah.
I'm a big fan.
And his band. I'm a big fan. And his band.
I'm a big fan.
His band all came here.
That's one thing I was thinking about.
Yeah, his band all came here.
And so I know that, like, yeah, he was talking about how it's like, yeah, it's just a lot
because your whole band comes, you know?
Yeah.
And so everybody's kind of waiting to go back to work.
Everybody's waiting to do a show, man.
It's rough.
I love Morgan.
I'm a big fan of Hardy.
I'm a big fan of Ernest.
Yeah.
That whole little circle of guys.
They do all that writing together I think it's cool because
they're bringing something cool
to Music Row. Music Row sucks by the way
I have an office on Music Row now
a couple studios and it just fucking sucks
it's so stuffy
these dudes are like
these are the dudes that'll do blow with you in the bathroom
but can't take a picture with you in the bar
because my brand is off putting
to their label they don't want to be you know what i'm saying yeah but i'm like we just did
fucking a gram of coke together like this is crazy like not that i want to take a picture
with you anyways i think you fucking suck you're just fun to party with but it's just still whack
if you're like well warner won't let me take the picture because you know you and your wife
publicly have threesomes and you got an alternative alternative lifestyle, and it's just not with our brand.
And then you got guys like Morgan and Hardy and these guys who are just more like, you
know, like, look, Ernest is smoking a bowl on Instagram every day, and I'm like, that's
what I'm talking about.
Let's be honest.
Ernest is hilarious, too.
Ernest is the best.
He's like pitching baseball.
He's like going back to play baseball.
He's like the most eclectic kid in the fucking world.
You know what I'm saying?
He's great, man.
He comes to the studio and writes with us.
I just love all those guys.
Yeah, they're classy dudes, man.
I haven't gotten to meet Morgan yet, but I really want to just because I think he's right in the alley.
You know what I'm saying?
Him and Hardy and Ernest, that's my guys.
Devin Dawson.
I feel like most of those Big Loud kids, that label over there, Big Loud, they're the guys.
I need to take you down to Music Row.
You need to come check out the office while you're here.
I'd love that.
Yeah, let's do it.
I'll show you the history of the city.
Yeah, that'd be dope.
Yeah, dude, I want to go, too.
Yeah, I was getting my hair cut by a lady, and she turned me on to Hardy.
I wasn't familiar with this stuff.
Are you getting your hair cut over there on Music Row?
Yeah, this lady named Whitney cuts it.
Okay.
I bet they cut a mean mullet.
This white lady.
Her boyfriend just broke up with her, too.
So if anybody likes her.
Is she at the Moose?
No chance.
It's not called the Moose.
It's all female barbers on Music Row.
I don't know.
She just cuts hair on the second floor of some place.
Okay, dope.
But you got to park in the back, but it's fine.
But she fell on the stairs last week, but she's better now.
So if anybody still wants to date her.
I fall down the steps once a tour.
Oh, I can see steps being your worst
almost die walking up them and fumble coming down tucking jelly roll man tucking jelly roll
that's hilarious yeah man i'm trying to think oh i went looked at terry clark's house earlier
remember terry clark yeah she sang um was it a cool house yeah it was a cool house just like uh
she had like a big tootsies thing in there whenever I went in there.
Like she had an actual piece of the.
I love Tootsies.
Oh, my God.
I have all my birthdays there.
I love.
It's more like my favorite honky tonk to get drunk at.
It, Roberts, and Layla's.
Those three right there beside each other.
From Legends to Roberts is, to me, the original Nashville.
But right now, like we got done with the show last night around 11.
They're like, everything's closed.
Closed at 10.
There's curfew.
11, they said.
10 or 11.
Yeah, can't serve alcohol after 11.
We got to go early, man.
Yeah.
What's it like down where you're at in Alabama right now?
Are things pretty closed up?
They don't give a fuck.
Exactly.
Good on Alabama.
It's not that bad.
She probably don't own a mask.
Yeah.
I might have one somewhere with me.
I think I brought one to Nashville with me.
You should get some masks made that are like catfishes, I feel like.
Yeah.
With the catfish mouth.
Yeah, the big lips.
Get bit.
And if we go noodling with you, when should we come?
May or June.
Sometimes 1st of July.
June will be your best bet.
Would you go too, Julie, you think?
Dude, yes.
Absolutely.
Can we bring Yellow Wolf?
We'll cook y'all catfish, too.
Yellow Wolf might be afraid.
You think he'd be afraid to get in there?
No, he doesn't.
He doesn't?
Yeah, his buddy calls it hillbilly hand fishing.
Yeah, they do it all the time.
Some people call it hogging.
That'd be fun to bring.
Dude, that'd be awesome.
Yeah, I got to meet up with him one night in LA.
He was doing something out there.
Him and Riff Raff are coming out with a video.
Yeah, yeah.
The mullet joint.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
A mullet collab.
I think I'm allowed to say this.
I'm on Yella's new album that's finna come out called Mud Mouth.
Oh, sweet.
Me and Struggle are the only feature on the whole album.
That's cool, man.
Really cool, man.
Yeah.
He's been putting out a lot of stuff.
Yeah, man.
He got his freedom.
He's independent now.
Before he was with the big label?
Yeah, he was with Interscope.
You know he was with Eminem.
He was with Shady forever. That's right. Yeah, he was signed to Shady. Because he kind of blew up off Sh with the big label? Yeah, he was with Interscope. You know he was with Eminem. He was with Shady forever.
That's right.
Yeah, he was signed to Shady.
Because he kind of blew up off Shady Records, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, yeah, he got really big there.
But what really did it for him was trunk music first.
Daddy's Lambo and all, that was before Shady.
But he's had a hell of a run, but he's independent.
He opted out.
He had his last option, and he said, I'm opting out.
And he's just crushing it.
Good for him, man.
Yeah, I'm so proud of him.
He's a hard worker, man. Yeah. He's a dude yeah i'm proud i feel like that's all our circuit
and i'm just proud of what our i'm like i'm not like name dropping these guys i'm just proud of
what we're doing because i feel like we represent each other yeah you know what i'm saying i feel
like what up church is doing what yellow's doing what we're all doing struggle independently is
is building its own.
It's what we were just talking about with Cohen now.
Like Cohen, you know, he just signed.
That's why he jokingly called this record sellout, I'm sure.
But he still kept the lion's share of his pie.
But all those Texas dudes are independent too, man.
Well, it's the same kind of stuff that Kanye West is talking about,
you know, and he's kind of going through it.
He was kind of manic, it seemed like, last month. But just but just about how yeah it's like how do you own people's stuff forever
how do you not let it go at some point like um his is a little tricky because he says that then
he has his record uh good music that big sean's on so then big sean tweed was like well give me
all my shit right like you're the one saying this but then you own all my masters like you're doing
the same shit to us that you're saying you want out of.
It was one of them artists.
They said he gave his portion of the masters back too,
but he was partner with a big company and it's just,
he's just got himself in too deep.
Kanye.
Yeah.
I think what did it for him is what did it for Taylor too.
It's like,
they realize that no matter how much money you made,
you're not able to buy your masters back.
You know,
Taylor Swift's going through that right now.
It's like you make all this money.
Yeah. You make all this money and you think, dude, I can, if you want to sell my masters
for $300 million, I'll write the check.
And they're just like, yeah, if not, we don't want it from you.
Yep.
You know, it's just weird.
And it's interesting people hate on Scooter, but to him, it's just a business decision.
Yeah, he don't.
He's like, I can buy all these masters for, I think, 150 mil and I'm going to flip them
for 300 mil.
What I try to emphasize to artists is,
and everything they do is,
do not let somebody who does not understand art
exploit your art.
And the problem with people is,
they go find them a business dude
who doesn't give a fuck about the art they're making.
And that business dude does some shady business dude shit,
and they're like, man, you fucked my art up.
It's like, you brought the money, dude. You didn didn't you know what i'm saying it's like when i finally
hired a manager recently i met with 20 managers and i hired the one that was a cpa right which
was a great skill but he plays the guitar shout out to matt wallace he plays the guitar the piano
the bass and anything you can blow in besides a cock yeah and maybe you can do that too just
don't talk about it but it's just like yeah you know what i mean i think you played like the
saxophone it's like to me i was like okay cool you're both you get the numbers but you respect
the art you know what i'm saying like to me and that's the mistake that people made is like you
you're judging business dudes on them doing business dude shit that's what they do and i
don't want a business dude to judge me on artist shit if i get drunk and fall down the steps on
the side of this show that's my fuck i'm fuck you that's what i signed. And I don't want a business dude to judge me on artist shit. If I get drunk and fall down the steps on the side of this show, that's my fuck.
I'm fuck you.
That's what I signed up for this job for.
That's what I'm doing.
You know, don't call me off.
You're being unprofessional, Jelly.
You got to quit talking about cocaine.
Fuck you.
You knew what you signed.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you know, so don't get mad at me when I do some artist shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I won't get mad at you when you do some business shit.
Yep.
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How does it apply to y'all?
Right.
Let's talk about like you have a special.
I know with the with the Internet shit, y'all own this.
Right.
Right.
But how does it apply when y'all do specials?
So as specials, it's different.
Like, I got a new special that we signed a deal with for Netflix.
Right.
So it's like I could have just recorded it myself and put the clips out myself, but I don't know.
I felt like there's still probably audience that I could reach
that I don't know about.
Yeah, you do that for the look.
That's what I say.
It's not always about the money.
Sometimes it's about the look.
So that was the thing, but it bummed me.
Netflix paid, though.
But it's not a forever thing.
It's a licensing thing.
This is forever.
Netflix forever.
Once you give it to them, it's forever.
Oh, okay.
Because it's a Netflix original.
Right.
Right.
Now, some people may be able to-
Shoot their own thing and sell it to Netflix for a licensing.
Right.
No, there's no licensing.
They don't do that.
I don't know if they do licensing.
It's a good question.
Joe Coy's story is interesting because he wanted to be on Netflix before he blew up.
And they're like, no, we're good.
So he shot it. I think he put like 400 grand of his own money and was like here i'll give it to you for free i don't you know i know you guys can keep it forever i'll just give it to you
for free i just want to be on the platform right because at the time is boom and then he blew the
fuck up well netflix is listen man if netflix called me right now and said hey we want to do
a show on you we'll give you two dollars an episode i'd say yes yeah you know because it's
such a great look and i'm just exploring tv myself i'm working on a deal with
peacock and it's so interesting to me how different that site that's y'all's world not mine
but but i hate that world but it's weird dude it's like i'm new to the world and feels not so
when we're talking about specials feels like yeah but they own my shit man and i'm like it makes me
mad every day even though even though i'm excited and it would be on netflix it makes me there's something about
it to me yeah i like my stories they're important they're parts of my life they're personal yeah
they're personal right this is a piece of you you saw it forever that you came yeah and then
somebody said to me though they're like well once you're you know after 30 years or something or 20
nobody's even gonna listen to that stuff anyway.
It all kind of has a shelf life.
Correct.
Which is a business way to look at it.
I hadn't really thought about that.
It's like, yeah, I'm not listening to a comedian.
I mean, I might listen occasionally to comedians from 40, 50 years ago, but not a ton.
But then also, my thing is, the way I view it, you're almost using them as a tool.
Like, you guys can keep that, but I toured this.
I mean, how many times have you done that hour?
We made money and touring and doing all that.
Then you're done with it.
Like, here you go.
Thanks, man.
I'm done.
I'm already working on my new hour.
Correct.
To me, it's about, in my world, it goes back to not thinking about money.
I think about the why.
For me, it's if it looks good or feels good because money follows shit that looks
cool.
Correct.
So it's like,
that looks cool.
Like you having a special,
like I'm like,
I'm like a Theo fan anyways.
So it's like,
you're like,
I got any special on Netflix.
I'm like,
yes,
deals coming to Netflix.
Yeah.
It feels big.
Like when you got with Showtime,
yeah.
Like me watching you go from a fighter to the infamous Joe Rogan interview
where you were like,
fucking quit fighting. We're bringing Gabe up on fighting. on fighting right yeah you know what i'm saying i was talked
out of fighting yeah yeah but it's like and then you immediately warped into this world so like
watching that and then watching you get with showtime i felt a part of that yeah i'm a part
of this this is big yeah you know what i'm saying i appreciate it i i think too it's like ceo going
on netflix it almost co- cosigns what we all know.
Like you know or the fans know, like, he's one of the best in the world.
So by Netflix going, yeah, we'll put a special on here, to me it's like that's Netflix going, yeah, Theo's one of the best.
Right.
It's just crazy how much of your own work on the side you have to do.
And then it feels a little bit – this is my problem and it's a personal issue – is that it feels a little bit like,
This is my problem, and it's a personal issue, is that it feels a little bit like, where were these people when they were giving so many opportunities to other people that were not doing good, I felt like.
And so then it just becomes like, so some of that's my own shit.
I just got to get over that.
But you were on Netflix early, though.
Yeah, that's a good point i do think it's going to be worth it for theo though because like he has a huge audience that's licking his chops but it's still a fraction of what the netflix
audience is but the day that drops his entire million people are going to watch it he's going
to be trending number one on netflix be on the front page and i think it's going to be a new
level for your career you could do one for you, you've been hiding this for years.
We all have 50 times.
Yeah.
Well,
you just refuse to hear what it's worth.
Parallel to like me being in here.
I was telling my wife this morning,
she was like,
you're really excited about this podcast. I said,
in my genre of how we've been so independent,
we don't get a spotlight put on our little group very much.
That's why I've talked about us all today.
And today I get to have a spotlight put on the group
because I'm the little fish in the room.
That's what I'm telling my wife.
I'm like, baby, I'm the small fish today.
Hannah Barron's got like a million motherfuckers
that watch her on Instagram.
I was like,
Still just the redneck.
Yeah, yeah.
So many guys are trying to set for love.
I'm still just like a white trash piece of shit, right?
Just like Theo's still,
you can still see the old Louisiana motherfucker.
He's like, I don't want to sell my shit to Netflix.
You know what I'm saying? And Brendan's over here like,
yeah, what the fuck ever. You know what I'm saying?
It's all like, but it's like
for me looking analytically, I'm like, I'm the tiny
fish in this. This is awesome. This is
a spotlight put on my community that I know
people that watch this shit that are going to
go, who in the fuck is that fat dude that's
been in there talking about music for an hour?
Yeah, I thought he owned a bakery. Yeah, like Jesus
Christ, he said Jelly Roll was on this fucking, you know, it's like,
I know what that is.
So it's like, for me, it's like a great look for you.
And it also just shows that the shit will roll downhill.
It's like watching y'all's whole movement.
I call, I look at all y'all as like all y'all comedians that I know are tight as one thing
and just watching the progression of how everybody's going.
Like, you know, inevitably, 12 to 24 months from now, Shob's on how everybody's going like you know inevitably
12 to 24 months from now shops on bernie's gonna die for sure you know
or get busted for a sex crime i mean if you look at the chart bernie's due any day now to get
busted for a sex crime well i'd say you're next my crowd crown is going to be jerking off. A little light on the sex.
And there's me actually when I was seven years old.
This is a very interesting Cats in the Wild.
I guess it's you maybe or you're a legitimate child,
but this young man is struggling with the dark arts as well.
You're just naming the few words that you know.
And then you keep going in your knowledge
and it expands dictionaries to find related words and stuff.'re running back and forth you're looking at windows you know making
sure that mom isn't home yet sometimes it would just be want to see click here on in the corner
and you know you're like well what are you talking about and then there's just this whole screen full
of it from the four hour school time that i would have, you know, before lunch, I would say that I had been looking at it for like half of those four hours.
Wow!
Just going on it from, for the little few moments, or when my mom would go to help Gabby with her school,
then I would have maybe like a 30-second period to just go and Google up what I need,
and then I can go back to my school and go,
What I mean!
Nothing ever happened.
My wife one time stumbled upon the history and realized there was some inappropriate stuff and wanted to talk to me about it
Because she thought it was me
He's searching in French our older daughter says mom that's not French that's English thought really really bad
It hit me like a ton of bricks everything that I had questioned or wondered hit me all in a moment.
Lego's the lady, you know.
I was just sitting in my room doing what I normally did,
playing with my Lego and all this stuff.
And then my mom walks into the room and I think,
oh, she's coming to tuck me into bed.
But she's got these tears streaming down her face.
She saw that bukkake video.
She's crying and she's like, Joe, Joe, what did you do?
And I said, Joe, is there something you need to tell mommy?
And at that point, he instantly just started bawling.
And he said, I can't, I can't.
It's too bad.
It's too bad.
It's too bad.
All three of us, we just collapsed and were sobbing and sobbing.
Oh, my God.
Did you take that?
Yeah, they're wrong.
So the kid went to blast.
You know, I was kneeling on the floor.
I just felt terrible.
We missed right in the beginning. He went to the dictionary
to find, or a thesaurus to find
more words to search because he had a very
small purview.
Entrepreneur, really.
Looking up like porn and stuff?
That kid is going to be swinging dick early.
That's going to be a male stripper right there.
You can easily see it.
Viceland, the fear capital of the world, dude.
For real.
Don't make you scared of anything, bro.
But yeah, that's one thing.
There's one thing about, it's just the temptation of going back to the industry stuff.
You always want that thing that says you're part of the same group.
Right.
You know?
You always want to do things on your own, but also yeah there's like you want to be on the tonight show because it's like you grew up with
it here in your head and even though it's not really popping you know if conan he's off air
now if conan was like hey i want you a four minute spot i'd be like oh shit i'm gonna blow up it's
like no you're not well see dude it's like i'm in this whip for y'all it's there but like in my
world you know when i'm talking to this, I'm entertaining a label deal.
We'll talk about off camera, but they're like, what do you want?
I was like, well, I want an actual chance at critical mass, like to get seen by people outside of my genre and circle of like this Southern white trash shit we do, you know?
And wiggers too.
They were like, well, how do you exactly?
They'll come.
Yeah, they're like, well, how do you get that?
You know, and I was like, well, in their world, they're like, oh, so you want to do Jimmy Fallon?
I was like, no, you're fucking crazy.
I want to do fucking Burt's podcast.
I want to do Rogan.
I want to do fucking Schaub's shit.
I want to fucking do Theo's shit.
We're talking about this two, three months ago.
I'm like, that's the shit I want to start circulating in.
Because to me, this is the new, in my era, you know what I'm saying?
It's like a motherfucker called me right now and said, hey, man,
you can either do Rogan, Burt, Segura, Theo, and Schaub,
or we can get you Fallon and whoever the other dude is.
Oh, this is going to do more for your career.
I'm telling you, fucking suck it while it's soft, dog.
I'm going with the comedians.
Oh, yeah.
We're fucking sure that's where I need to be at.
Suck it while it's soft is my old nickname, too, man.
That's going to be the name of my next special.
Suck it while it's soft with Brendan Scha lot soft but lifetime of softness over here dude i mean you think i was fucking my
dick is made out of downy dryer sheet but here's here's what's interesting with that too i was
talking about this with a buddy uh comic of mine what buddy brendan don't lie to him yeah but uh
sorry sorry that when when you get to a certain level of fame, it brings the vultures out who you're easier to get canceled.
So like you talk, you know, why people love Jelly Roll,
you know, talk about things with your girl and drugs
and just being you, which people love.
When you get to a certain level of fame
that you can't really do that anymore.
So I'm always curious
because like Rogan signed that Spotify deal, right?
He was famous before in our world. He's famous but then once you get that spotify deal and it's 100
million dollars then it's like you're like tom cruise famous so that he's getting bombarded from
news you know e and just all these major outlets non-stop it's like i don't know if our kind is
built for that kind of level of fame yeah he is because he
has a fucking you know armor he doesn't give a flying fuck but for a lot of other guys it's like
i don't know if we're built for that level of fame right uh i figure y'all's come y'all's group is
for sure though i mean to me it just fuck dude but we the catfish joke at the beginning of this
i'm still almost tinkled myself thinking about yeah i'm still wondering if we have to take it
out or not.
Yeah, not me.
It's hilarious.
But if Theo keeps getting bigger, he can't make that joke anymore.
Right.
Well, here's what I fear.
Once you get involved with Hollywood stuff.
You're out.
And you're on that payroll.
Then it's like then they have an interest in, oh, this guy on this TV show, this article will pop because it's there.
So it's weird. It's like you're almost better in your own world.
That's doing really well.
I think that's why you look at guys like up church and it's like, wow, he's fucking, you
know, he really has created his own thing as much as you can see.
Sometimes I feel like, and this isn't a judgment that it, but just like he's, you know, that
it not pains him, but it's like, they never recognized me, that kind of thing from him
or whatever, you know, I'm going to do my own thing.
Right.
It's like doing your own thing is really where a lot of the victory is.
You know, Rogan says a lot of times, he's like,
why do you want all that when you already have that?
Right, right.
Well, my thing is, my music's different.
Can I ask Nick to pull something up?
Nick, can you pull up Jelly Roll Save Me?
So for me, it's like I'm cool with whatever comes with what i know my core message is
and my core message is my music is therapy right like the core of what my music does for people is
and the messages this is this is my real quick story i get hundreds of messages a day probably
and lots of them say crazy stuff like hey jelly you know i almost killed myself and found your
music i i got off
drugs listening to your music i don't you know they played this at my friend's funeral this
sounds like similar fans of this past weekend yeah check this out you play this right now you
play it because this this is just the first piece of it'll explain this is like to me this is what
i do general some of the best pr i've ever seen right here well it's like dude it's it's like you
know it's i call it therapeutic music, man.
Let's hear it, man.
I speak for, I got a voice for the voiceless.
I'm a poet of the broken, you know.
Amen, dog.
It's like, I don't care what backlash comes
with helping a motherfucker, you know what I mean?
And look at that side titty, too.
Somebody save me
Me from myself
With the pipes.
Has been so long living in hell.
This is about the side titty.
They say my lifestyle is bad for my health.
It's the only thing that seems to help
All of this drinking and smoking is hopeless
But I feel like it's all that I need
Something inside of me is broken
I hold on to anything that sets me free
i'm a lost cause baby you kill it right there oh i could ejaculate to that yeah that's beautiful
so it's like i know at the end of the day i just have a message that right i think can help a
motherfucker yeah you know what i'm saying so to me it's like listen i've already made more money than i'm personally qualified to
make by a goddamn landslide so if i never make another dollar dude i fucking listen my whole
family thinks i'm the shit my whole family's like i'm the guy who gets the calls now oh yeah you're
the guy who has that sunday ticket subscription you know my whole family is like dude i'm like
the first dude who owned anything in dude i'm like the first dude who
owned anything in my family my first dude to own a fucking car in my family you know what i'm saying
they're like holy fuck you got a vehicle yeah this is fucking big you know what i'm saying
you're the first to use a full set of the alphabet yeah yeah right you know what i'm saying
fucking dude i got all my teeth and shit you know so it's like in my world it's fucking
but now to me it's like well i've seen this message help and be a beacon of hope.
I watch thousands of people, pal, in the venues every night and sing it and cry back to me.
Amen.
You know, so it's like, man, I want to get that message across the world, dog.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think Fallon's going to get it there.
I don't think a motherfucker watching Fallon gets it.
I think a motherfucker watching Theo might.
I got more of a chance of a motherfucker watching this podcast right now to be like, yo, that
song's crazy.
I'm going to look that shit up.
100%.
You know what I'm saying?
What was the side titty video?
Jelly Roll.
And I shouldn't have said that.
But I thought the shirt maybe was sexy.
It was a sucker for sure.
I grew into that one.
No, that's a funeral song.
That reminds me of my friend that died, man,
that overdosed.
It seemed like a song you would play at that. Yeah, well, dude, you know, my child's mother is in jail right now. She's a funeral song. That reminds me of my friend that died, man, that overdosed. It seemed like a song you would play at that, you know?
Yeah, well, dude, you know, my child's mother is in jail right now.
She's a recovering heroin addict, Bailey's mom.
Damn.
You know, addictions hit really close to home with me on dozens of occasions,
so I kind of speak to that language.
You know, I battle with my own demons.
You don't become a 400-pound man because you make really good decisions.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, obviously there's something deep-rooted here and i'm not like most fat people i'm not like smelly
and live at mom's house and fucking play video games and eat hot cheetos all right right and
hate online yeah yeah i'm a totally different kind of fat dude like i'm a big fly dude with a real
pretty wife and i mean you know it's a whole thing oh i stalked your wife on instagram clean fat
yeah yeah yeah yeah she's a bad motherfucker man bless her um hannah how does
that work in your world by the way like you own your channel and all that shit right oh yeah have
they tried to call you to do some like outdoor tv shit yet uh some like gonna have some stuff on
like bone collector and i've had tv networks and i'll get up with me but it just seems really
complicated because i bet your ass is like you come down to alabama we'll talk about it and i'll get up with me but it just seems really complicated because i bet your ass was like
you come down to alabama we'll talk about it and i bet you're like no but they're always they want
you to do it in a kiddie pool out in burbank but they're always wanting to change you like i talked
to one woman it was like well do y'all live off the land i said no i said we we don't have to
buy meat because you know we hunt and we fish but we don't live off the land i mean i like
chocolate and stuff so i mean we go to the grocery store you can't grow a snicker that's what i
look at that sexy motherfucker oh damn i'm one of them bro i'll tell you that
how long have you been with her we've am I bringing Theo home? How long have you been with her? We've been married for about five years now.
You did good.
Thank you, dude.
I'm married.
I'm so proud of myself.
You know, the cool thing was I was like touring, living in like a 97 high top Southern Comfort
van and was like ass broke when I met her.
And she was like a Vegas girl that was like, you know, working.
And she had like fucking a penthouse condo and like two
sports cars and I could not believe
that we ended up in a show for me. And what did you guys meet?
We met at a show. She came to one of your shows?
Yeah she was with some abusive douche bag
and they came to a show and we were backstage
and I knew that dude was a fucking piece of shit
and uh they split
and I just I'm not gonna act like I shot my shot
she kind of shot hers. She's
letting your DMs?
Yeah, well, no, we had mutual friends.
So she was like, yo, just plug me in with Jelly.
And I hit her on some other shit.
I was like, yo, I'm trying to come out there and shoot some content, some video stuff.
She was like, yeah, come on.
I was like, cool, well, I live in my van,
so I'll leave now.
You know what I'm saying?
On my way.
I had my videographer fly out.
And, you know, the first night I slept on the couch,
the second night I slept in her.
Damn.
Kelly, boy.
It's a love story, dog.
Kelly's got a leak.
It's a white trash love story.
Raspberry.
And we got married kind of randomly.
It was a Yellow Wolf Deftone concert.
Oh, hell yeah, bro.
And I went on stage and asked her to marry me.
And it was Vegas, right?
So it's like 11 o'clock.
They're closing the joint down by Hard Rock. And I'm like fuck it let's just go now she's like the
courthouse is open for 35 44 more minutes i was like let's fucking roll we wouldn't get married
right midnight the city yeah because that's famous oh when it's time to get married after 10 p.m it's
a split it's a quick decision yeah oh yeah we listen to bruno mars marry you the whole way
there fucking i'm fucking,
fucking,
I think I was doing coke
or Xanax or something.
You gotta be doing some coke
to get married after 10.
Yeah, yeah.
We stuck it out.
We were like the story
nobody thought
and she's my best friend, man.
That's awesome.
That's so cool, man.
She supported me.
She helped me get my music career
really up and going, going.
You know, she...
Yeah, you need somebody
to support you.
There's somebody to tell you
everything's gonna be alright
a lot of times, you know?
Yeah, well, shit.
That's big to have. Yeah, shit. She also helped on the going to be all right a lot of times. Yeah, well, shit. That's big to have.
Yeah, shit.
She also helped on the other end.
You know, fucking, she helped me, like, financially.
Like, I was, people always look at her like, she's a gold digger.
I was like, y'all have no fucking clue, dude.
I got the shovel, baby.
I was dead broke around her, dude.
And before you got married, was that life on the road where you, it's trouble, right?
Yeah, you know how that is, dog.
I do.
You remember the $200 shows, man.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When you're like, I'm getting $200. Brendan went straight to, like, $2,000 shows. where you it's trouble right oh you know how that is you you remember the 200 shows man you know
what i'm saying when you're like i'm getting burning doesn't went straight to like two thousand
dollar shows yeah did you go straight to the thousand did you ever do the two hundred dollar
joints but i but i yeah but i did fight for pennies yeah for sure which sucked i remember
having no salt for my food and crying on my fucking salmon oh Oh, yeah. I did have salmon, though. It wasn't that bad.
Better get fish.
Anyway, yeah.
We were doing
180 shows a year
for like 100 bucks
a show, too.
200 bucks was like
my max money.
Damn.
And I'm like one of four
opening for like
three rock bands
doing rap
and like getting
100 bucks
and selling
$150 in t-shirts
that night
and hopping in my little van
and rolling on.
Some nights we'd just sleep in truck stops.
Before you met her, though, because you were still famous, right?
Merch was it.
Merch is what did it.
Merch is what usually helped a lot of times.
Yeah, selling CDs after.
And that's what changed a lot when things got digital.
You just couldn't sell merch anymore.
Yeah, well, t-shirts are cool.
I told you I got some gear for y'all.
But it's like my philosophy was just always, if I can set up a merch booth,
to this day, right, if somebody called me and was like, yo, will you open up for Brantley
Gilbert?
I'm answering yes and not even asking about the money.
You know, they could say, well, we only got a hundred bucks.
No problem.
Can I set up merch?
Yep.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm opening for Brantley.
Tell them there.
You know, I don't care if you, how about I'll give you $500 to let me open up for Brantley Gilbert?
Yeah.
I can set up a t-shirt spot.
Oh, I'll merch at a damn funeral, dude,
back in the day.
Yeah.
I'll vend an album quickly
to somebody before they cry.
Oh, yeah, because you was in the era
where y'all sold the actual specials on disc.
Dude, I used to buy the disc changer.
I'd bring it with me in my bag.
I'd set it up in my hotel room.
I'd go buy the disc at the Target.
Then I'd stack them in there.
It was a three disc.
Burner at once. Burner. I remember those. my hotel room. I'd go by the disc at the Target. Then I'd stack them in there. It was a three disc. Burner at once.
Burner.
I remember those.
Three at once.
And slide them in the plastic.
It would get so loud by the end of the day because you'd run it like 2,000 times in a row.
Would you sell them off the spindle?
I'd sell them off the spindle.
Oh, my God.
Theo Vaughn on it.
Yeah, Theo Vaughn would just grab this.
Do you still have some of those?
Huh?
I still have a bunch.
Yeah.
I'll sell you one right now, dude.
No, I don't want it.
We'll have next in the month.
Hannah, what is it?
So is there any way to go?
Like, where else do you go in your business as far as like, do you see it like a business now?
Like, what's next?
At first, you're just fishing.
And now it's kind of like a business.
What is it?
What's going on?
It is.
And I never would have expected it to come to this because I am just a redneck from South Alabama.
And I fell into it all.
I had a video go viral.
And fine as hell, too, honestly.
Thank you.
Come on, son.
But it was all an accident.
We just happened to, we bought this little video camera, and I don't know what kind it was.
Not much to it.
And we videoed catching a catfish.
And I posted it on Instagram.
I didn't even, like, send it out to a bunch of folks
but somebody saw it and shared it on facebook and then it got shared so many times got 25 million
views god damn and then it all started snowballing but at that point hardly anybody had heard of
catfish noodling you know what i think like now it seems like everybody's doing it but back then it
was like a shocker kind of
deal so i think that's why i did so good you're the first to market i made it popular and you're
easy on the eyes it was a big hairy dude britain i just said that i know i just want to co-sign
why she's blown up thank you but yeah i've just been making the could you noodle what's the next animal you can noodle
couple giraffes alligator maybe oh no we do go gator hunting but i'd watch you noodle the damn
sheep yeah i'd be into that you know wait till it's sleeping and just slip down there a couple
sleeping i don't know if i'd stick my arm down their throat dude they got more teeth see catfish
are like sandpaper so it's not so bad,
which they do leave some marks.
That was through a glove.
And do you have a lot of lesbians
that try to holler at you,
or what's that like?
That's not usually bad.
It's mostly men.
Damn.
Yeah, pretty creepy, though.
I bet you get some creepy shit.
Yeah, I got that whole album
in my phone dedicated to them.
Love it.
Amen.
I always like to go laugh at them.
Time for some Thanksgiving dinner, guys? Yeah, let's do it thanksgiving yeah we got food jelly yes we
were bringing it and i have food but i didn't know it was real yeah i hope he's not just pump
faking me to get me to come out of came in i've been fasting all morning man and since this was
our thanksgiving episode we did it a little bit last weekend but let's go around the room and say
what we're thankful for so it ties into the theme a little bit last weekend, but let's go around the room and say what we're thankful for.
So it ties into the theme a little bit.
Okay.
We'll start with the lady there.
Oh, why y'all got to start with me?
Put all the pressure on me.
Well, I meant Brendan.
So Brendan.
I'm thankful for my family, my kids' health.
Thankful for this show, for Theo Vaughn, for just the whole squad, man.
And still be able to tour even though we're in a pandemic.
I'm figuring shit out.
So that's it, really.
Thankful for my health.
I got COVID.
It wasn't shit.
But maybe I'm one of the fortunate ones.
Or I'm the majority.
You know what I'm saying?
Sitting on the bike the whole time.
Yeah, stay on the bike.
I hope that's the version of COVID I get. Yeah, bike around yeah it's safe yep um i'm gonna go i want to
yeah i'm thankful that you know um i can be reminded of of just things that i need this
things that i should already know it a lot of times you know even as hearing you today jelly
roll talk about like just you know championing my friends and you know not thinking from like a scarcity mindset we had michael chandler here
the other day and he was talking about that and just i just need those constant reminders about
that kind of stuff yeah not to be an asshole yeah not to be an asshole um and nick nodded on that
and that's fine i'm thankful for you guys y'all put up with me. I know I'm not easy to put up with sometimes.
I'm thankful for Nick.
I think Nick's really one of the hardest workers that I know,
and he's a nice guy.
Thanks, man.
And, you know, I know he's got a big heart,
and he likes to prove it with his work ethic.
You know, that's one way he really communicates well,
and it's just by working hard.
And I know I'm not the easiest person to work with sometimes,
so I appreciate you, man.
And thank you guys for coming today.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Did you tell him?
No.
We didn't.
We only did you two, guys.
Yeah.
What are you thankful for?
Who wants to go first?
You can go, Hannah.
Well, of course, I'm thankful for the health and the safety of my family,
all the people I care about and that have supported me through all this,
even though this is really something that I never expected to happen.
Thankful for all the opportunities and the places I get to go.
I get to travel around the world.
And like I said, I'm just a redneck from South Alabama.
Never thought I'd be here with y'all.
Never thought I'd be in Idaho carrying elk up mountains, getting to noodle all the places I've just dreamed of.
I caught a 67-pound catfish last year that's
crazy nuts hard to have the size of me but just thankful for everything thankful to be here thank
y'all for having me i just want to say how hannah baron that was that at the end of her thankfulness
it was for a 67 pound catfish yeah that's so that's like the most hannah baron thing hannah
i mean i killed my biggest deer this year, too, so I'm thankful for that.
Thank you for that big old catfish.
We call him Not Hung.
That makes me so happy.
With that leather.
You could have a catfish leather coat.
I feel like some of those things look a little leathery.
I need one of those.
You remind me of the female catfish, Cooley.
It's just fucking great.
Oh, God.
I need to take him.
Yeah, yeah, he's funny.
I am thankful for my wife, my children, my household, my whole team.
You know, just like y'all, it's so many people that I'm thankful for,
like you with Nick, that don't get the credit
because they're not the dude who gets to sit in the podcast.
You know, I'm thankful for every one of those people.
I'm thankful to be here.
I fucking love the King and the Sting.
I think this is great.
I'm going to shoot my shot now and be thankful in advance that i'm gonna get on this past weekend one day you know what i'm saying you know what i mean and i'll see you when i come to la next time
and i'm just thankful for the opportunity to expand man i'm just i'm thankful for
everything but my health yep
you put the L in health, bro.
I would love.
God, I'm mad.
I hate you.
I'd love to have you on.
We'll have you on this past weekend soon, man.
It'd be fun.
It'd be fun to just kind of follow up even from this chat.
Nick, what do you got?
I'm thankful for my family and that my grandma's 84 And still healthy and kicking
And my girlfriend who's out right now
Picking up Jelly Rolls and Terramont and Tequila
For Thanksgiving dinner
And I'm thankful that this is my job
This is what I do for work
And it's fucking awesome
So thanks Theo, thanks Brendan
You gave me the opportunity
And we have a Christmas bonus for you too Nick
Fuck yeah
We'll talk about it at Christmas.
Not yet, it's only Thanksgiving.
All right, we're out, love you guys.
Love you, fucker.
Brittany gets a joke in, that's when we stop, huh?
No, that's perfect, that's hilarious.
And if I could, could I add one more thing?
Yeah.
I wanna say thank you to my dad.
Oh, yeah.
He is the one that kept me in the woods since I was knee-high to a grasshopper.
Really?
The whole time.
Yeah, he is the reason that I turned out like I did.
Yeah, that's great.
And he's a hunter and fisher as well?
Oh, yeah.
He is a badass.
Like, unbelievable.
Those poor catfish.
What's his name?
Jeff Barron.
He's actually on Instagram, JeffBaron70.
He's always getting hurt somehow, but he's the one that kept me in the woods,
and he's the reason I am what I am today.
Love it.
Him and all my family.
You've surpassed him because you got your deer in Kansas,
and he's still in Kansas trying to get his one.
He's trying to kill a bigger one than I am.
Jeff Barron's still out there.
If you guys see him, man, lay a dead deer next to him.
Shout out to Jeff.
Help him out.
Brendan and Theo, fighter in weight. Shout out to him. Help him out. Instagram famous, damn, hungry like I'm fresh off keto Seeing red like Andrew Santino Every song I hit like the great Bambino Brennan ate the queso and the quesoritos
But everything's gonna be fine
Hate on me, I do not mind
Theo looking like the type of dude that got a pack of matches in his pockets at all times
They sliding into my DMs
A couple of you tried but couldn't beat em
Quit playing like Nintendo DS
You don't want to smoke like Joey Diaz
Meaning y'all edible
Just got my eyebrows threaded and I'm feeling incredible
Brandon's son hit me up
He said it's too loud in the club
Can you pick me up?
King in the sting
King in the sting
King in the sting
Bee sting
Rat king
King in the sting
King in the sting
Got the bees in the trap Got the cheese on a string King in the sting, king and the sting Got the bees in a trap, got the cheese on a string
King and the sting, king and the sting
King and the sting, bee sting rat king
King and the sting, king and the sting
Got the bees in a trap. Got the cheese on a string.