The Greatest Generation - Borg Dewormer (VOY S3E17)

Episode Date: March 21, 2022

When Chakotay crash lands on a planet in conflict, he’s assimilated back to health by a co-op with a dark secret. But connecting with Riley puts Voyager at risk when a nearby Borg Cube gets the self...-destruct treatment. Why is this co-op so into volleyball? Which side is up on a cube? Do the Borgs not have olds? It’s the episode that puts on the Liberace records! Exchange scarves for goods at PodShop.bizSupport the production of The Greatest Generation.  Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:02:33 Just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek Podcast. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm Ben Harrison. I took a long pause there to wait for a garbage truck to go by. Didn't need to do that. Didn't need to do that. Didn't need to do that because there's probably going to be all kinds of weird noises coming through the mic today because I'm I'm recording away from home. Yeah, you're you're on an away mission.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And it's no telling what gets through the walls of that shuttle craft. I know you're not a big sportsman, but do you remember when the famous baseball stadium up in Seattle, the kingdom started raining tiles down onto the field and they had to cancel a bunch of games? Oh, wow. And they had to eventually tear down the kingdom. Like, they fixed it and then they were like, this is fucked up. We're just going to build a new stadium.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Wow, that's like a couple billion dollar oopsie. Well, the reason I bring it up is because tiles started coming down in our home. The very home that we invited you and your wife to not too long ago. Tiles were just flying off of our fireplace area. When I visited you, there were several tiles that looked like they were being held in place with like gaffers tape. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I mean, gaffers tape is great for a fireplace tile, because it's not going to leave any of that residue. Right. Yeah. It's, not aesthetically, just so pleasing to the eye. I mean, for a lot of people, it doesn't make sense how much more expensive it is than a regular tape,
Starting point is 00:04:03 but once you use it for a while. Yeah. Then you really appreciate it. You can appreciate the difference. Anyway, you guys put that tile up in like March 2020. Like you had the job booked during the pandemic and you had work been coming in well, well, the scariest part of the beginning of the pandemic was happening. Yeah. You guys really suffered for those tiles
Starting point is 00:04:26 It sucks that they're falling off the wall. Well, we're lucky. No one got hit So while the tile rework gets done. We have absconded to Palm Springs Beautiful Palm Springs a place we used to go to quite a bit and now we're back Palm Springs is where it swings. Yeah. We've short-term rented a lovely home here. That's great. Here's the thing about vacationing with a puppy, Ben.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Not really a vacation. Yeah, there is no vacation with a puppy. She's eating weird berries off the ground. She's eating palm tree castoffs off of the ground. These are things she doesn't do at home, but she's on vacation too, Ben. Yes. Which means she's really living it up. Hey, fuck it, man. Let's just eat everything.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. Yeah. Boy, nobody more put upon than Adam Pryonica these days. I don't want to make it seem like that, but I've been making it seem that way. You and got a cute, cute puppy. I think we got to get you seem like that, but I've been making it seem that way. You and got a cute cute puppy. I think we got to get you into a different mindset, man. You're too focused on the negative. I really am. And you and my lovely wife have been doing Yomans work trying to like get me out of the funk.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But I think I have an idea of how I can do that in the short term at least. I don't know if this has ever happened to you, but this house came with party supplies. Wow. And this is the first time this has ever happened to us. We got in very late last night. We got in it like after 11 p. Unloaded all of our stuff basically went to bed right after, and realized in the morning that there were a bunch of like new, unopened snacks and bottles of booze and stuff here
Starting point is 00:06:11 as like welcome, welcome to our cool place. But there's one beverage item I found in the fridge that I'm wondering if you've ever heard of, and I thought maybe we could do a quick let's drink about it style session here. Let's drink about it style session here. I mean, you do still owe me a teaky. I know, I know I do.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I lived up to the teaky requirements of our game. Maybe this is the get back. Maybe this is my get back for the teaky. Okay, I mean, you're in the right place. What is this beverage? Have you ever heard of, and I'm holding you're in the right place. What is this beverage? Have you ever heard of, and I'm holding this up to the camera for you and the viewers at home? Have you ever heard of the long drink? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Is that what that says on the box? I style myself as a drinking enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah. I'm nowhere near the cocktail historian that you are. Oh, you're no slouch. I've never heard of Finnish long drink. Other than like a buddy of mine at a bar saying, Hey, finish your long drink. We're going to the next bar. So it's a blue box, it's a six pack.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It doesn't appear to have a brand on it. Other than the long drink company. In Finland, long drink refers to a mixed drink made from gin and most commonly grapefruit soda. That sounds delicious. Yeah. It's got a story on the back. Long drink is a top-selling category of alcohol in Finland,
Starting point is 00:07:44 a legend that is now available in America. The roots of long drinks go back to the 1952 summer games in Helsinki, and the country of only 4 million people was still recovering from World War II. Concerned how to serve drinks quickly enough to all the visitors, the government came up with a revolutionary idea of a new liquor drink that was both delicious and fast to serve. And so the first long drinks were born. This is a great idea. Like, you want to serve your customers quickly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You want to give them something strong and good. And that's how the long drink was born. Just to describe this box, we're looking at what would otherwise just look like a six pack of beers. It's normal sized cans in a six pack box, right? But it's a color you very rarely see on the beer aisle, kind of a aquamarine blue. Yeah, or a periwinkle. Yeah, you know what it is, periwinkle. All right, I'm gonna get into this.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Okay, wow. These came, as I said, these came free with the house. Amazing. I have some friends who bought their first house in the last year or so and it's like out of town. You know, they're millennials, so they can't afford to live in the house that they can afford to buy.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Sure. Kind of a deal. But they're Airbnb-ing it, and afford to live in the house that they can afford to buy. Sure. Kind of a deal. Yeah. But they're Airbnb and being it. And that's like one of the things they do is leave some wines and spirits for tenants. And I was like, I, that's such a great call. Why are my Airbnb's never providing this? I don't know. But I'm liking the connotation here.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm liking that this is that this could be a trend. All right, Ben, this is 5.5% alcohol. Not bad. If we're doing alcohol measuring here, let's take it to the dome. Oh, this is gonna be dangerous. Oh, man. Is it a grapefruit long drink? Oh, this is gonna be dangerous.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Oh, man, is it a grapefruit long drink? This is the grapefruit long drink that tastes just like a grapefruit soda and nothing else. Like it barely has any aftertaste at all. That you would associate with a kind of a canned mixed cocktail. Like our preferred airline of choice, Delta Airlines, has like little stubby can cocktails. I don't know if you've flown them recently, but they're starting to do that. Oh, that's interesting. They haven't had tequila the last couple of times.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I've been on an airplane, which I... That's because they're only putting it in these little canned cocktails. Wow, I'm sure. They're starting to do. But this reminds me of that in a very positive way. It's tasty. I'm glad you're enjoying it. I would join you with an adult beverage of my own atom,
Starting point is 00:10:35 but I have to go down to a county office in Van Nij's, California to file some paperwork for some reason. I mean, it sounds to me like you could use a long drink or two. I really can. Known as the best tasting booze in the world. According to five million fins. Wow. Wow. Good for Finland for coming up with long caro,
Starting point is 00:10:58 which I'm seeing as the finish styling of the phrase long drink. Oh, they couldn't just call it that. Yeah. I kind of like long caro phrase long drink. Oh, they couldn't just call it that. Yeah, I kind of like long caro, long drink. It's such a, I would have expected a tall boy. Yeah. Why not make it the tall boy format? Or like a thinner can, you know, like a Collins glass.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Cause like, I think the American association with the term long drink would be like a Tom Collins served in a tall, skinny, mixed drink glass. Yeah. I haven't had a Tom Collins in a long time, but I do remember liking them quite a bit. That's like a real golf course, average right there, you know? It's just gin lemonade, you know? So it's delicious.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It's probably not super far off of what you're drinking right now. It's great. I wish I could reach through this green, like the take on me video, and give you a pencil drawn can of long drink. Yeah, that would be great. But unfortunately, I'm gonna have to remain stone cold sober. Well, we review this next episode of Star Trek Voyager.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's season three episode 17, Unity. Brewer, of course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Fire. Should be noted before we kick off here, it's the second B-Dunk's directed episode. I did not notice that.
Starting point is 00:12:15 That's great news. Yeah, he did so good after the first time. They gave him the second. I mean, that's how you get directing jobs, having had previously done directing jobs. Let's see if we can tell the difference. We begin with Chico Tezlog and a Subaru Brat style shuttle once again, they got a number of these Brats on the ship.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Mm-hmm, yeah. Just how am I saying your money, Buster? They keep losing them though. It's like going to a Polish barbecue. Nothing but Brat. Delicious. Now, I guess they got killed Bossa in Poland, right? Do they eat rats there too?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yes. Okay, good. The all manner of sausage. Excellent. Yes, it's Ensign Kaplan and Commander Tukote doing a scouting mission in the Necrot Expans, a part of space that was kind of a big deal, a couple episodes ago, but we didn't really hear anything about in the last episode.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Seems like this scouting mission may indicate that this place is not as mapable as they thought. No, no, because God, poor Ensign Kaplan, I was positive this would be the worst thing to happen to her this episode. Are you saying we lost Ensign? Getting them lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That suspicion would be proven wrong in a little bit. Yeah, she's not going to have to live with this shame for too long. She's dying of embarrassment here. Yeah. I'm sorry, sir. We've never related to a character in Star Trek more than we relate to Ensign Kaplan. God. What a bad last day. You'll bad for Ensign Kapplin. God, what a bad last day.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You'll be bad for Ensign Kapplin. Yeah, so you got a raw deal. They also don't have comms with Voyager and they're scanning around and they actually get a hail. And this hail is from somebody that is using a federation signal and has identified them as a fed Federation vessel. So it's real Federation, recognize Federation game. It's a weird how threatening it is to be recognized
Starting point is 00:14:13 when you don't expect to be, right? That's true. That's definitely the vibe here. There is a suggestion of a little bit of joy in the familiar, but also there's a list of 100 reasons why this would be a bad thing. Yeah. So precautions need to be taken. And I was very glad that they were able to launch a message.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Boa. Prepare a bully and launch it when ready. Warning boys. An emergency bully. A warning bully. To let the Voyager know where they were and what they were up to. Would you ever want to get out of Boa range from Voyager given how dangerous every mission on a shuttle is in all of Star Trek?
Starting point is 00:14:54 I would leave them behind me like breadcrumbs or flicker sticks or something like I'd never get lost. I would be wasting these things all the time. Your Subaru brat would just be like shitting boi. Every twenty feet. I'd be like that truck on the highway that's closing a lane down that's like automatically dropping cones. Every 15 feet.
Starting point is 00:15:17 That's what my shuttle would look like. Yeah, yeah. So they decamped for this colony that they found, and this looks like a really rough part of town that they found themselves in. You can tell a part of town is bad when there's lots of barrels with fires in them. It's basically like the beginning of the first Rocky movie. Frank's alone is shubi doing off in the alleyway. They're set upon by some local baddies,
Starting point is 00:15:49 some cloaked men with machine guns, and this devolves into a firefight really quickly, and Ensign Kaplan and Anticote both get hit. It sucks because Kaplan's dying words are like, I was embarrassed about getting his lost, but also, double embarrassment about getting shot on this away mission. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I pissed myself too.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Oh, oh, no, no, this sucks. Oh, and somebody put a kick me sign on the back of my shirt. How long has this been here? How did these people get a video of me in high school? Oh, and I'm in a play? It's Fiddler on the roof? What a kind of accent is that?
Starting point is 00:16:41 What am I even trying to do here? And how did they let me out on stage with toilet paper stuck to my shoe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Chicoetay doesn't get the hero turn of like lifting Kaplan into his arms
Starting point is 00:17:01 and screaming to the heavens. He's like ducking for cover and returning fire and like swinging two handed fists into people. Like he needs to do a lot to survive this moment. He gets hit. He's collapsing on the floor and you think he's done for because the bad guys are moving in. And then from off screen, someone shoots a fire gun.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Ain't nothing but a McChief thing. The gun that they shoot Chico Teh with is like a revolutionary war size long gun situation, which like much like my long drink styles itself has. It looks very refreshing and higher alcohol than you would think. Yeah. And then the fire gun comes out. And it's not a gun. This is a gun.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And those are the guys scram. Yeah. So Chico de wakes up in a dark room being tended to by a human woman who is explaining to him like, yeah, your shuttle has been, it's up on blocks. It's been totally stripped for parts. That's it. You're not going to get out of
Starting point is 00:18:09 here with that thing. And I wish they saw it later, like totally donked out. Like big spoiler on the back. Yeah. A guy with the seat, like leaned all the way back, driving it through. Where did they even get beads for that seat? Oh, man. Good idea of putting a dust buster in the door. Right. The shuttlecraft. She's like, man, you know, like we sent the distress call,
Starting point is 00:18:36 but who rescued who, you know? Know what I mean? I tell you what, whenever you wake up in a hospital setting and there are a number of dark corners in your hospital room from which your nurse is speaking from. I'm immediately suspicious and from these dark corners is where Riley Frazier is greeting Chico Te and giving him this background information. It really does seem like this is gonna turn into space misery, right? Oh, darling, it'll be so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. Everyone knows what Kathy Bates sounds like. But Riley Frazier has a very Beverly Crusher style vocal effect. Like she sounds really soothing and nice as just a bedside companion. Relax, Commander. There's a contradiction there.
Starting point is 00:19:26 She's speaking from the darkness, but she sounds so caring. Yeah, yeah. And there's a lot of tension in this scene, and I think part of it is that she's always shot from below. She's shot in this kind of dominant framing, and pretty much throughout the episode, she shot like that, with only a couple of exceptions. but yeah, it feels really sinister and like, we're not getting a totally trustworthy narrative from her.
Starting point is 00:19:54 But she starts to tell the story of this colony and she's like, there's like dozens of different kinds of aliens here, including lots from the eight quad, like we're talking Cardassians, Romulans, Vulcans, Klingons, anybody you can think of, they're probably here. And I was just like hanging around doing some Starfleet shit in the a-quad, and then me and a few humans woke up here, and it's just people from all over the place. We don't know how this works. Yeah, she was on a ship that was attacked,
Starting point is 00:20:26 and then all of these different types of people were put into stasis. Yeah. And then they just wake up together, like a bad night at a party. Every single person got abducted. Yeah. They never saw who these kidnappers were, though.
Starting point is 00:20:43 She makes sure to make that point and telling her story But it's not all bad. She go to we got like a natural grocery store here and a bunch of like backyard farming Yeah, you'll just have to believe me when I say that it's not a cult even though every way that I describe the situation sounds very culty though, every way that I describe the situation sounds very culty. Everyone loves playing volleyball together, like kind of a weird interest in volleyball, if you ask me. You've got to make you come to volleyball. We started like 11 p.m. at the earliest. Yeah. But he is, he's not really like well enough to get up and like take a look at the colony. So he's kind of like bedridden for the moment. And nor is there ability to communicate right working because that's been broken
Starting point is 00:21:32 in the firefight. Yeah. And Chico Te would love to help if he didn't have this terrible headache. What she describes as the co-op is the sort of stable civil society part of this planet, but there's just like roving gangs of xenophobic aliens running around that they are needing to defend themselves from it all times. Chico takes expecting this other shoe to drop because like when he goes and picks some vegetables from their produce section, like he goes through the checkout and he gets hit up by the Chex-Dan person, like do you want to buy a membership? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Here are you just going to buy all these things? Like, it's really a hard sell. Yeah. And he's like, what is it in tail? They're like, well, you have to work a couple of shifts every month. And he's like, oh, come on, man. You know, I actually don't plan on being here very long. I'm in from out of town, actually. Yeah. That's the best answer. Do you want the club card? Do you want to sign up for the club card? No, I'm actually just a big issue. I really try not to give my phone number or email out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. Back on Voyager, Tom Parris really bored trying to make their way through the necker to expands. Yeah, Hey Parris, you got time to be bored You got time to clean the fucking plasma scrubbers or whatever Isn't that what Neelix had to do when he got in trouble for lying? I got blah blah blah. Yeah, they're really kind of casually throwing around punishments on this ship Yeah, it's starting to be a really brutal place to work
Starting point is 00:23:02 Paris snaps to and he's like no, I love I actually love navigating the necker to expand. Yeah. Paras snaps to and he's like, no, I love, I actually love navigating the Nackered Expans. It's cool. It's very interesting challenge. Tuvac gets Paras off the hook here by saying that there's a ship in their path. And when they don't reply to hails, they go ahead and get it on screen and saved by the board. Yeah. Maybe the most surprising ship they could see is dead ahead and it is dark. It's scary because it's a board cube, but it's also scary because none of the lights are on. Yeah, it's off.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's an off cube. And it's doing that list list, slightly a skew spin and space move. That's always creepy when you see a ship doing it. But it's like, yeah, tricky to achieve with a cube, right? Like to make it look like, I guess it's... It always looks like it's up, right? Yeah. Is that on purpose or...?
Starting point is 00:23:56 I'd like to send in a way team over there to ask what the deal is with which side is up. This is a great opportunity. Should we call it the artifact or not come up with that yet? Right. Yeah, I mean, this idea kind of blows the rest of the bridge crew away. Janeway is ready to scout
Starting point is 00:24:18 and potentially swipe some of that tasty technology. Yeah, and BLT is like, yeah, I mean, I guess we could like turn one thing on and see if we could find out what happened to the ship and then turn it off really quickly and hope that that doesn't boot the whole thing up. Nothing bad ever happens when you just hit one switch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Back down on the planet, Chicoete is getting a sense of all of the different crops being cultivated by the co-op. Some really nice macrobiotic, fair trade, farm fresh. This stuff is better than organic. He checks out what they're growing and it is just all gurgons. And he's like, gah! Are you serious with the gurgons? No problem. I'm a vegetarian.
Starting point is 00:25:04 He's also like, where did you get metro shelving in the Delta Quadrant? Yeah. Yeah. Riley is wondering why Voyager's crew doesn't just stop their journey home and maybe put down some class M roots, the way they did. Look at how happy everyone is.
Starting point is 00:25:20 This place rules, why don't you join us? And Chicoate is like, we could, but like, if we go home We'll die before we get there, but we have a lot of like cool exploration we can do along the way I love what this moment does with your expectations because There's such a fun take from Riley from Chico to here where Chico is like, you know, you could always come back with me and Riley looks at him like he's just spit in her face like Why would I want to do that? That's fucking crazy. What the fuck dude? I just met you Do you do you see these tubers? I'd like to see you grow these on your ship
Starting point is 00:26:03 I'd like to see you grow these on your ship. Hey, does the Voyager have any barrels with fires in them? Because if not, not interested. She doesn't want to go with him, but she could use some help from him and his crew. I mean, he's seen what they're dealing with down there with all of these skirmishes. They're having to defend themselves from. And maybe once the Voyager comes back, they'd see fit to share some of their defensive technology or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That'd be nice, right? She's like, listen, we want to fix our communications array and then just keep building this society that's based on mutual understanding and tolerance. So if we could get some guns, that would be perfect. Guns and volleyballs. I, I, I, well, we could use the most of really and branding irons. A soldering iron or something.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't really want to get into what that parts for, but, you know, we just have lots of ideas for it. I feel like I can talk to you about this stuff because I'm seeing what's on your face and like, I feel like you can appreciate permanent marking on one's body as a way to honor a belief system, you know? Yeah, yeah. So on the board cube, and a way team has beamed over and it's the captain and Tuvac and BLT and a few more people and they are looking around for nodes that they can plug into and get a sense of what happened to this cube.
Starting point is 00:27:34 There's a great jump scare where they like move some hoses out of the way and like Sam Jackson and Jurassic Park at Dead Board thoughts out from behind it. I love, like, this is the fun of filmmaking right here. Like, setting up your shot and having this go directly to camera. Yeah, yeah. Like, this is great. It is really fun. It's kind of a stone-cold mystery.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Like, what happened to these Borgs? Why did they just turn off their cube and die in the middle of space? We ask a lot of these types of questions in the McLaughlin group after. Is your walk? Where we learn that the cube has been powered down for five years.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah. And 1100 borugs are dead over there. Which is why it smelled the way it did, I guess. Interesting timeline on that power down. Come to think of it. Yeah. They brought one of the bodies aboard to steady it. I mean, I don't see any downside to that. Yeah. Yeah. Only good things happen when you bring a separated
Starting point is 00:28:39 borg's on board. There's coffee in that autopsy. Well, I mean, this is a great opportunity to upload a virus, if you will. Right. BLT raises a pretty scary prospect in this meeting, which is what if what powered this ship down was something even worse than the Borgs? Kind of a terrifying idea. It is. Like, something so much more powerful than the Borgs that they don't even care to steal all the gear and tech that was left behind. Like, that's part of the mystery too, right? Yeah. the Borgs that they don't even care to steal all the gear and tech that was left behind. That's part of the mystery too, right?
Starting point is 00:29:07 The Borg love taking anything of value off of the battlefield once the battle is over. You see, you know, it does in times, but this ship is not getting the same treatment. Yeah. Lots of mysteries. Jane was like, it occurs to me that Chico Te is still out there on his mission and maybe we should recall him. Also, Ensign Kaplan. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Let's see how she's doing too. I'm very concerned. Right. Good idea, Janeway. Chico Te wakes up and struggles through his delirium to try and escape this room. He's seen Riley like, leave the room in a way that sort of makes it look like she's locking the door behind her Yeah, don't even think about anybody coming for you and I feel like he's thinking this might be a misery situation also And he gets up and he actually manages to get the door open pretty easily
Starting point is 00:29:59 This is a great head fake here like he's tries and he fails and then he starts banging on the door head fake here, like he's tried and he fails and then he starts banging on the door. And it just works. Yeah. And he walks out to a scene very much like one of those like TNG episodes that was laying groundwork for the boards, like where they where they find colonies where like everything has just been scooped out of the surface of a planet. Right. He's in a building that is right on the edge of a crater like that. And there's a bunch of people toiling and he's like looking around and he spots Riley getting bored shit messed with in the back of her head. Chico Te is so upset by this and it's not that he's been lied to about her true nature
Starting point is 00:30:43 or what everyone is doing here. It's that she's bald. Bald? Bald, bald, bald, bald, bald. The hair piece looks great in her defense. Yeah. Totally natural hairline.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You'd never be able to tell. No, it looks awesome. And she's like, okay, I know what this looks like. I know you see me here with a guy that's obviously also a borg's messing with the borg stuff on my head. And let me explain. And she goes through her backstory. She was on one of the ships at Wolf 359. She got assimilated. And then their ship disconnected from the collective back here. If you think too hard about this story, it doesn't make sense, right? Because that ship and all the borugs on it was destroyed. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:31:34 We're there. Yeah. I was trying to remember if there was more than one cube in the local story. No, that was just the single cube. So, I mean, I understand I may be thinking about this in three-dimensional terms, the way that Picard was accused of doing when he was like, I saw the queen die on that one cube.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Right. I was there. Right. I mean, it makes you wonder if there was some sort of spherical escape pod in that cube, or maybe, I don't know what. Those cubes can poop a sphere. But there's a lot of jangly keys here in this moment that serve as a distraction from
Starting point is 00:32:13 the flawed logic of what this might mean. Part of it is how well practiced the story sounds and how all of the handoffs between people are so natural. And then we get to the last guy and he's like, and then I say the part about our skin pigmentation. Like, this is another part that's so suspicious is like how this story is told. Yeah, it's very first grade play. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:41 We learned how to tell this story by watching the Inson Kaplan video from her school play Pretty humiliating actually. This is how you tell stories, right? The fact that she evacuated her bladder in front of the whole school That Latinum gets that old, better large, rich, rich. I've got to get that Latinum. What now? Are you selling a heist? God.
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Starting point is 00:34:27 These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line. And boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity.
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Starting point is 00:35:42 to have a society despite the fact that their link has been severed. There's a really elegant way to tell the story of their evolution in that once they got unlinked from the collective, they're like, I remember what food tastes like again. And, and I remember what it felt like to love. And I remember what it feels like not to have gray skin. And I also remembered who I used to hate. And that's the cause for all of the conflict on the surface is everyone also remembered those things from the before times. On the Voyager, they are doing a Y incision on this corpse that they brought over from
Starting point is 00:36:27 the cube. The doctor really geeking out about it. Nothing like the vacuum of space for preserving a handsome corpse. Does Kess even know what a Borg's is, you think? I don't know. Yeah, maybe she read about it in like one of her Starfleet medical manuals. Yeah, probably. She is assisting, and they're finding some evidence
Starting point is 00:36:45 that maybe this guy got electrocuted, which both corroborates BLT's theory and also corroborates the story that Chicote was told that the cube was damaged in an electrostatic storm. I mean, they did find this body in a Borg bath tub. So that checks out. With a Borg toaster oven. Yeah. out. With a Borg toaster oven.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. I mean, he is the toaster oven. Yeah. And weirdly, like for all of their technological advancements, Borg's don't have GFCI outlets in the bathrooms on their cubes. Weird. I mean, that's how ancient their race is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:21 It predates code. Yeah. Yeah. They should assimilate that technological distinctiveness into their own. That's just a good idea. I'm Kevin O'Connor. My biological and technological distinctiveness
Starting point is 00:37:36 has been added to the blog. Our new project house is very cube shaped. It's a very efficient design, strangely generalized with no specificity of function in any of the different parts. I'm Richard Rathoui and I've set up shop in the utility area, which, as I gesture all around me, is the entire ship. The whole ship, it's, it's oops all manifolds the ship. Probably four or five hundred thousand dollars tax tubing went into building this thing. The doc really makes a mistake here. The doc accidentally turns on the drone.
Starting point is 00:38:17 The doc so confident about working with this body. Yeah. That's the worst part of it. It's scary. It's a, it's another jump scare. He managed just to flip the switch back off and this board goes back down onto the slab. But it's in that weird, like, this is a mostly robot type of thing. So like, it wasn't living tissue that came back. It was just that the robot started back up again. Yeah. I mean, sometimes dead is better. Speaking of better, Ticote is not. He's not recovering
Starting point is 00:38:53 and the pitch from the people at the co-op is maybe you'd be interested in an experimental Borg therapy. We want you to join this text message thread. Now, Riley here's gonna be what we call your master. And you're gonna have to kind of do some accountability stuff with her. Chico Te reads the label on the medicine that Riley gives him. And he's like, this is Borg D. Wormer. I'm not taking this shit.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, he's not really into the weird off brand medical intervention that they're suggesting to him, which is basically join our collective for a minute. And we can use like part of the power of the board collective is it's great healing power. We'll Wolverine you back together and then we'll unplug you. It's no must know for us. You're not going to be stuck in the collective if you join us for a minute.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Look at us. We're not like those other borgs. I feel like his greatest fear is implantation, right? And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like we're not going to stick anything in you. This is just messing around above the clothes. Yeah. This is a clip show device stuff, you know, it's nothing. Yeah. It's nothing permanent. He does that, that soft letdown. He's like, look, this is all very interesting. I'm definitely not making fun of your beliefs
Starting point is 00:40:16 in any way, but I'm thinking I'm just going to wait for Voyager to get here. And they're like, you don't get it. It's either this or die. And given those options to Cote goes through with it. Yeah. And this is a really weird scene where he gets the clip show device put on his neck and the borgs kind of stand around in fellowship or something. They hold him down while the branding iron heads toward his pelvic bone.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, and then he's like weirdly free about showing it to people on camera from then on. Right. It was incredible. There's kind of an interesting montage of like Chicoete memories and idyllic childhood memories of Rylees and Borg's memories and combat memories. Commercials for products you see on 24 hour news channels. Yeah. It's weird. It really kind of brings into relief what violence the Borgs are willing to pursue in order to like advance their own technological and biological distinctiveness. We see a lot of grandpa footage in the montage, but you rarely see a grandpa borg's, do you?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Yeah. Where are the old borg's? You never see old borg's, you see baby borg's? Yeah. Did they just live forever once they're drones? I mean, maybe this is the most monstrous part about them, Ben, is that they're agists. Yeah. Like Mr. Timisin, they hit a certain age and they got to go.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I'm so sorry, Timisin. You know what? Maybe Timisin was right. You wanted to punch out while he was a simulation age. Yeah. It's all downhill after that. When the borgs don't even want you, yeah. You imagine you're on a planet service
Starting point is 00:42:07 and just like scoops, you're getting taken out of it. All your friends, your family's getting taken. All that remains are the old. That's gotta hurt, right? Yeah. What about us? I can still be useful. I'll stop complaining, I'll promise. I'm biologically distinct. Look at how far I can stretch this useful. I'll stop complaining or promise.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I'm biologically distinct. Look at how far I can stretch this flap of skin. Don't think it's not tempting. Such a coat they recover. He's still got some borgs in him now. Yeah. He's got a little bit of a borgs hangover, right? He kind of enjoyed the experience. He saw very personal things about everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That was the montage we saw. Almost two personal ban on that. Makes me wonder if there were some people invited into this ring that maybe did not want to participate based on the things that they like to think about. Yeah. You know what? I actually saw a burn barrel out there that needed some tending to. I'm going to go like put a stick in there and
Starting point is 00:43:10 kind of stoked that that fire actually. Jakote was healed, but he also learned a bunch of lines that are useful in hitting on Riley. And she is very receptive to this because the scene ends with some steamy make outs. You hear this all the time, like you can tell when someone's attracted to you if when you talk to them, they start touching their own face. And then you feel them touching their face on your own face. Yeah, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:43:40 What do you think about this kissing? Because they each kiss their own hand. Oh, I got, because it's the, if I touch my face, you can feel it on your face, but it's also like middle school kids practicing kissing on each other. It's real like the Borg special tingle is something that they're told is gonna wear off in an hour and so they better get to fucking. Yeah, but it's like having sex on E, you know, it's never gonna be as good after that. Is it more like masturbating on E because the suggestion here is that they're feeling themselves. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Like if he can feel her touch herself, then he can feel himself going in, right? I know so much about you. Whoa. Yeah. Don't tell Instant Vorik. Don't tell captain Janeway Voyager pulls up to this planet and the readings that they're getting are not super Helpful they can't find the shuttle they can't find combatches. They're not getting comms from
Starting point is 00:44:45 Ensign capon chico tays got to be grateful for this, right? Like just a little bit more time. Do not walk in on me now, Gameway. And we cut down to the service and he is helping her fix the comms array. Yeah, finally getting that thing back up and running. And he's really gotten to be quite friendly with these exports. Hey, you know what, Orham?
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, you know what I want to hear a little bit less about is how psyched you were that we got into that psychic ring before, because I don't want to know anything about what you felt me doing in the last 45 minutes, okay? Like, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but maybe keep that to yourself. Because we know, be on a shadow of a, or a man, everyone else in that circle could feel them fucking, right? I think so, yeah. I just wanted to say how grateful to you, we all are. They were probably all like, hey, now that I'm done stoking this burn barrel, I'm gonna go back to my room, lock the door, maybe take a nap. I'll be back in 15 or 20. What do you need your headphones for, Oram?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Nothing, nothing at all. They just help me sleep. So they get word from Voyager and pretty soon, and we have a McLaughlin group up on the ship where Riley is making her pitch to the captain, the pitch that she made to Jakote. We've got this great co-op going.
Starting point is 00:46:06 We've kind of come to the conclusion that the only way to ensure the security of the co-op is to turn on the neural link and make everybody part of a collective, but like a little collective. Not the big evil one, just like a little local grass fed grain free collective. Do you think on Picard on those planets where they had Romulan refugees, the grocery stores there were called co-op Malat? Cheers to life.
Starting point is 00:46:36 For the freshest produce. Yeah, probably. Okay. That was just thinking about that. Yeah, it's a good thought. You have to have like radical honesty about the prices in there though. Right, yeah. Here's what we got it for. Here's the farm it came from. Look, there is a 30% markup and we're just gonna be completely honest about that.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Which is razor thin by most retail standards. Someone's in there buying ingredients for a cassilet. So your cause is a desperate one. And one of the employees, like, buy-in-s himself to his lost cause of a homemade recipe. Like, you're never going to pull that off. Cassilet is too difficult. I love the fact that this grocery store is exclusively staffed by people carrying swords.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, I mean, they'll separate the bunches for you. So the captain's like, well, Dr. Frazier, this is a really interesting proposal, letting a board collective reform itself. It can't be serious. I'm going to have to give it some thought. I'm not going to give you an immediate yes. Janeway is great about solicitors on her doorstep. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 This is great stuff. The idea of a non-shitty collective hasn't intriguing elements to her, but she doesn't want to commit to anything here. And she's even pretty honest about being kind of pessimistic about ultimately saying yes. And when Riley leaves the room, Janeway turns to Chicoata and she's like,
Starting point is 00:48:08 so what do you think? Should I do this? And to Cote is like, I mean, if it was me, I've been in there collective, they seem like nice people. It's all or nothing though. Like there's no such thing as a cafeteria collective. Like you're all in or you're all out.
Starting point is 00:48:22 But this is such an interesting scene. This is maybe my favorite scene of the whole episode because Chicoate has been compromised and not in the usual like, you know, spy craft kind of way. He's been compromised because he has feelings for these people and want them to be okay. And when Janeway asks his advice
Starting point is 00:48:39 about what they should do in the situation, I think she knows that. I think this is not just about getting an answer to the question that she can trust. I think she's also trying to figure out whether or not she can trust him generally right now. Yeah. Based on his answer.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And so his answer is like totally qualified through the your responsibilities are bigger than mine. And yeah. Therefore, I don't think I can like, wholeheartedly recommend you just give these people exactly what they want. And the risk is if they turn something else on the cube, they're turning the whole cube on
Starting point is 00:49:14 and attracting the attention of the big collective. Yeah. And potentially like rejoining these people to the big collective too. It's interesting they both kind of say it without saying it that that they're just going to have to let Riley down on this one. And that's a job that falls to Chico Te, which... That's not fair. Wasn't... He wasn't fair and B was just like a fucking brutal scene,
Starting point is 00:49:40 because he goes down and he's like, okay, so unfortunately no deal on giving you the collective that you requested. So we're just gonna have to Sarah goodbyes here. Um, I hope the bandits don't slaughter you and the rest of your co-op and she's like, yeah, me too. Uh, we'll see how long we can hold out, but we're all gonna die. You mind if I take one last face swipe for the road? You got a little schmutzownown you're right there. Yeah. I saw a Nielix and BLT down here near this conversation, but it's just Chico Tay and BLT on the shuttle ride home, which I didn't quite get. Nielix is like, this is my last stop. You don't
Starting point is 00:50:20 have to make a big deal about it on the show. I don't need any kind of flowery goodbye. You can just leave me here. I left one last tape of the briefing with Nielix, and if you guys could just play that tomorrow, I don't wanna be around for that. I'm sure you've watched me cook in the mess hall enough times to know that the burn barrel as a type of cooking is actually something I'm really interested in using full time.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Like uncontrolled flame is how I like to cook. These people get me. So they are on this shuttle ride when Chico Tay gets collective voices in his head and he goes, just when they think I'm out, they pull me back in. It's Riley touching her own face. It's all of them touching their own faces. And Chicoate like kind of squirms in his seat and crosses his legs. They're singing Kumbaya Locutus. This is creepy shit. Yeah. And it inspires Chicoate to get out of Despester and stun Balana. And on the Voyager, they know that the shuttle has gone Rouge
Starting point is 00:51:29 and Jicote is doing a bad thing. Jicote, not a great track record for losing shuttles. I think everyone's a little afraid about where this is gonna head. More concerned about the shuttle probably, like a first officer can be replaced, a shuttle cannot. Yeah. They know exactly where he's heading. The away team to apprehend Chico Te is on the cube when he is sneaking around looking for Yeah. The thing he needs to power up to, you know, bring the collective to full strength and the
Starting point is 00:52:03 co-op are like standing in their say-on circle, broadcasting the knowledge to him that the bad guys, the bandits are like at the gates of their compound, battering, ramming the door. It's so interesting and scary to hear Borg voice pleading for something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And getting desperate. We see it, like we see these angry aliens trying to bash down the door. And Chico Tay manages to plug something in as he's getting set upon by two Voc and Kim. Kim actually hits Chico Tay on stun. This is total science fiction though because like Chico Tay gets the plug in on the first try. Oh yeah. Usually you have to flip that thing over twice, right? Yeah. Yeah. For some reason, it's twice. It gets the thing on and bad news, the entire cube powers up. This is such a nightmare. Yeah. Well, we see the bad guys train a break into the compounds, like, stop suddenly. And we also see the still cybernetic looking
Starting point is 00:53:08 borgs on the cube start to wake up and walk around. And they like no adaptation period. Like they are already adapted to the phasers that are getting shot at them. And it's an emergency beam out by the OA team. I mean, I guess Janeway did get one very valuable data point off of this mission and off of being on the ship. And that's like dead, Borg aren't dead. It's really quite simple. All life is a physical and chemical process, correct?
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yeah. They can always come back. Cube looks like it's about to kill the Voyager and then suddenly self-destructs. This is an unintentional laugh line. kill the Voyager and then suddenly self-destructs. This is an unintentional laugh line in my estimation because shit is going down. And from the bridge crew's perspective, it's all about like defense and counter attack.
Starting point is 00:53:57 What are we gonna do about this thing? As soon as the firefight starts, Kim is like, they've set a three-second self-destruct program. And Janeway whips around a Kim and it's like, as soon as the firefight starts, Kim is like, they've set a three-second self-destruct program. And Janeway whips around to Kim and is like, I don't remember hearing their whispers. And then boom. I'm gonna have to try that myself.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I usually like to draw it out, Really, look sure he ate in it. But there's something kind of a feeling about just punching it out like that. I'm gonna take these Venetian Blinds and just one by one. Try a finger over each blind. Of course, it's locked in. What? Listen to me, don't be careful, because I'm a man who's seen this once.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Chico Tay wakes up in six Bay, turns out that Neural Transponder is not gonna be affecting him any longer. It's great news. Because the co-op tells them as much. Yeah, that was a nice, nice thing to do. Yeah, the co-op was like, hey, we're not going to chase you. We blew up that bad ship. You can trust us now, right?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Have a great trip. We just killed 1100 people in front of you. You know what we're capable of. Yeah. Sort of obligated to trust us. The captain wants a minute alone with Jicote though. So she's like, hey, listen, that was not look cutest bad, but that was really bad. That thing you just did. And I know you weren't
Starting point is 00:55:30 trying to do it. I know that they had sway over you. But, uh, whoo, kind of hard to separate from the ideals you have as a man, because it kind of felt like something you might have tried without the influence of the co-op. That's such a fun part of the end of this episode is like where the co-op begins and ends and where Chicoet's interests begin and end. There is a lot of blur in there. Right, and whether the like stated higher ideals of this group of borgs can survive the corrupting influence of the awesome power that they get by becoming a collective again. Hey, here's my Star Trek film paper about this moment. Like, do you think these refugees are kind of Borg-Makwis?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Makwis? Wow. In a way that Chico-te could appreciate? Yeah, I really like that film paper, Adam. Yeah. You're gonna put that in archae du cinéma du Star Trek. I love like the dark beat that this episode ends with, which is like, wow, well, I guess they finally got what they wanted. And things are gonna be okay for them now that the conflict's over. But what are they going to be capable of once they get used to the sweet, sweet feeling of power? Mmm. Power, yum, yum, yum.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's delicious. Yeah. Only good things happen when you've got power. Did you like this episode, Adam? You know, I've made it easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like bullies, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I love this too. I really, really did.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And it's not just Borg nostalgia, like I definitely did feel a bunch of that during the app. That was enjoyable to me. But I think Chicoete was such a great character to put centrally into this story as someone with maybe the fewest ties on the ship outside of Janeway. Yeah. I mean, I, it feels like it's been a while since we've gotten a Chicoete central episode like this.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And so I just thought like beginning to end, I liked its construction for that reason. I guess if there's a downside to it, it's not one that I'll know about anytime soon, which is like, is this what Voyager, the series, is going to be obsessed with going forward? Like, did this just pivot into Borg's show? I mean, I wonder. I suspect it kind of does because of what I know to be happening with some characters and whatever, but I don't know. Like, I hope not because the show has been really good for three and a half seasons without the Borg. It's not all Borgs going forward, but there's a lot more for sure to come.
Starting point is 00:58:14 What about you, Ben? Yeah, I really liked it too. I found myself wishing that there was something in the script about the off-shoot collective that lore formed in TNG. That had been kind of interesting if they had like brought that up as a comp in a McLaughlin group or something. But yeah overall I thought it was a great episode and a really interesting script because it really had me thinking it was one thing when it was another several times. Yeah. Episode had you like. Yeah. I thought it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And like, it had the creepy factor when it needed to, but it also had a lot of, you know, it didn't stay in horror movie country the entire time. And I thought that was an interesting... B-Dunks did a good job with it. Yeah. Like stylistic when it needed to be, like that scene with Janeway and Chicoeté was very like devil and angel,
Starting point is 00:59:08 but not any completely. Like, you can hack that scene up in a way that it was not in this episode. It was really solid. I agree. You wanna see if we have any solid P1s in the inbox? Oh yeah, I think they're almost fully formed. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. in the inbox. Oh yeah, I think they're almost fully formed.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Then our first priority one message is from Dan and Starfleet Academy City, it's to the brother's Shimoda. The message goes like this, I was Dan number two of two Dan's with P1s on the December 6 release of Greatest Trek Voyager S3E2 Tantric Labatomy. This is sounding a lot like a convention question. This is back when we were all excited about getting some of that new hot hot Omicron remember good times I do not know any of the other dance nor any myriams, but I'm open Congratulations on the name change and double dumbass on us all Wow boy that last line been Ben, had me, uh, had me like, whoa. Some challenging alliteration there, from Dan and Starfleet Academy City. Oh wait, I want the instructions where I want Ben to read this P1 in the voice of J.R.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Kenyones. That is not a character that I remember you having, Ben. Yeah, I don't know what Dan is talking about there. that is not a character that I remember you having been. Yeah, I don't know what Dan is talking about there. I hope your read was sufficient for what Dan wanted. Dan seems to have an encyclopedic memory for all of the P1s on this show. Maybe we could get some clarification from Dan on this. J.R. Cognon is a stand-in and body double for Robert Piccardo.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. So. Oh, I remember that bit. I remember that bit. He's the guy with a bad voice. You can't give him dialogue. You remember? Oh, because he sounds like this.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yes. Oh. There you go. You solved it. Now you need to read the P1. Dan and Starfleet Academy City. You threw a curveball. We don't remember shit we do on this show. I don't remember the shit I did on this show. Yeah. This episode. Yeah. So sorry, sorry I didn't do that. I've got a I've got a different P1 to read and it is this. It's from Admiral Mindy and Cadet Fitzgerald to John aka Captain Daddy.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Goes like this. Dad and toddler when the podcast squares. Fitz and I thought this was the best way to tell you we love you. He's only two but he can identify three captains, TOS Bridge Crew and his favorite song is the Picard song. We're raising this kiddo right, and he has the greatest dad ever. F.O.D.'s, when John found you, he told me he'd found his people. How about that?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Captain Danny, you found your people with the F.O.D.'s. I love to hear it! A growing family, with kids being taught all the important lessons. Yeah. Even though Fitz is only two, I wonder if to have a preference of which captain. If they know three captains. Yeah, I was expecting to have them name checked here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Kind of want to follow up. Yeah, which three. There's so many. Yeah. That's what people are saying. Too many captains. Oops, all captains. Well, if you'd like to leave a priority one message here on the program, you can do it by heading to maximumfun.org-jemotron.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yes, in fact, you know AIMO, the U.S.S.D. AIMO, the U.S.D. AIMO, the U.S.S.D. AIMO, the U.S.D. Hey, Adam. It's that doing it for you! Hey Adam. It's that bin. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? A drunk Shimoda!
Starting point is 01:03:10 This one was easy for me. I mean, Chico Tei's down on this planet. Doesn't know how much time he's got. Might as well have a little sex while I wait for the ship to return. Sounds great. Just the idea that that is on the table. I mean, he's went through a trauma and he's experienced something pretty magical
Starting point is 01:03:32 when being, you know, collectivized with this group. We shared a very rare experience. Yeah. But I mean, he's never been more of a Will Riker in this moment. Like, this is straight out of the Riker first officer playbook. Totally. If there's a babe on this planet,
Starting point is 01:03:50 I will attempt to bed her. Let's hear what Yershimoto has been. I think I'm gonna give it to Riley. I love the, anybody that has the energy of, oh, it's not what you think. Let me explain in an episode. Yeah. He found out I'm actually a Borg's moment.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Like, this is not played for comedy, but that kind of moment is always kind of inherently a little bit funny to me. So, she's my drunkard motor for this episode. I really like this actor. Yeah. That's she did a great job. You agree.
Starting point is 01:04:22 This work, that actor. Yeah. Well, what kind of work, that actor. Yeah. Well, what kind of work will we have ahead on the next episode, Ben? And how many Borgs will there be in it? That's what we need to find out right now. I'm guessing not so many Borgs this time. It's a season three episode, 18, Dark Lane.
Starting point is 01:04:38 The doctor tries to improve his programming by incorporating traits of famous historical people, but is soon overwhelmed by the dark sides of their personalities. Famous historical people with dark sides? That never happens. I mean, the more we find out about famous historical people, the more there is to low. Maybe that episode will end with them going into the holiday and pulling down all the holograms of famous historical people. Yeah, like that idea quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Wow. Well, Adam, why don't you head to goth.biz slash game and tell us how we will be reviewing dark link love to ban. Before I roll these die, I've got to tell you, our runabout is currently on square 22. Just a couple of squares ahead is a banger which would move us back five squares. And that is pretty much the only obstacle ahead. So I'm going to go ahead and roll this bone. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Could we not hit that naked now? Technically?
Starting point is 01:05:45 No, not next to. I mean, I'll tell you that I didn't. Too long! Did I win? I rolled a three, which puts us on square 25, and it'll be a regular old episode for us. OK, so we could hit the naked now next time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Your favorite. I guess we could. Could do without that. Wow, well we'll see what happens on the next exciting episode of the greatest generation. People are going to listen to that episode and just scrub all the way to the dice roll. It'll be the first time that that's ever happened. We really appreciate everybody that supports the show at MaximumFund.org slash join. If you're interested in that, we've got the Max Fund Drive coming up pretty soon. We've also got a bunch of live shows. Those are happening in a bunch of cities. Have to greatestgentwurd.com if you're interested in seeing our review of Star Trek 4.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Ben, our first tour dates are this week. If you're listening to the show, the day it comes out, kicking off the tour on Wednesday the 23rd in Chicago, and then Milwaukee and Minneapolis after that. So big week for us. Yeah. Really hoping to see all the friends of DeSoto out in those three places as we begin our next live show tour. Yeah, can't wait. Tours and everything really all made possible from the generous support of our viewers you can count yourself among them by going to... I already said that stuff Adam. Don't beat him over the head with that. Or slash, join.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Don't beat him over the head with the slash join. Don't beat him over the head with that All right, we gotta thank Wendy Pretty our producer Bill Tilly our card daddy who runs the social media accounts at greatest Trek on Instagram and Twitter and maybe I'll get him into running the greatest trek Tiktok account one of these days I think I set that up. Oh Wow, he's gonna love that Everyone's gonna love it. One more thing to upload a fucking audio He's gonna love that. Everyone's gonna love it. What more thing to upload a fucking audio gruel?
Starting point is 01:07:45 Yeah. And we gotta thank Adam Ragusia, who may be original. Music on this program, including the Janeway song. Of course, working off the inspiration of dark material, maybe card song. We gotta thank Long Drink for making... I was just gonna say, I wanna thank finish long drink for making this this episode possible Specifically
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