The Greatest Generation - Buffalo Troi Voice (S4E14)

Episode Date: November 23, 2016

When the entire crew passes out after traveling through a wormhole, the evidence starts to finally persuade them that Data is the gravest threat to the ship that they face on an ongoing basis. Now Picard has to go all Dixon Hill on everybody’s ass until he can get some answers. Will Data be stripped down to his wires? Where the hell was Guinan during this whole thing? Why can’t Worf be bothered to implement any basic security procedures? It’s the episode where Troi huffs some green paint.

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bit embarrassed at this whole having a Star Trek Podcast situation. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranaka. How you doing today Adam? Ben, I'm a little, er, Erkth, I guess you could say. Erkth, really? Yeah, you remember that whole yeager bubble that I was setting up? Yeah, we haven't really talked about it on the show though.

So, what I did a couple weeks ago, completely without asking you if it was a good idea or asking any financial advisor if this is possible was that I created an artificial Yeager bubble which involved me buying every signed Biff Yeager card I could find on the internet. And I don't know if I've ever showed you this bin, but because we're on camera, here is my stack of Yagers, which is a good fist size of Yagers. Yeah. And you sent me a cell phone picture of it

with your camera phone. So, satisfied that I now owned all the Yagers that could be purchased, I set out to sell one of the acres for exactly $999.99. You don't need the penny. And when you know it, some of our viewers noticed, some of our viewers who had already purchased the acres of their own, right. One of them listed theirer for a dollar less than mine. And guess what, Ben? What?

He has said that someone has bought his Yager for that price. Oh, that burns my toast, Adam. Yeah. That boils my T-Eirl gray hot. I did it so I could make a thousand dollars. Not one of our viewers. Now, to be clear, I'm very happy that my Yeager bubble has benefited one of our viewers.

That's, yeah, but like. I think it's very cool. But like, we need to get our beaks wet on that, right? I know, I know, right? Like, I mean, I hate to say it, but I feel like we should be taxing these yaggers, right? Yeah. Are these not taxable yaggers based on the strength of the bubble that I myself created? We're sort of like the National Yager Authority and any top dollar Yeager sales in order to be sanctioned,

should probably go through us and we should take a percentage. I also feel like whoever sold this Yeager, this other Yeager, do you think that, did they definitely sell it or is it just, are they like passing off a screenshot that makes it look as though it's been sold?

Well, I can't be sure that I'm not being fucked with. If that's what you're asking. Yeah, so like, that's the other thing is like, if you made it look like somebody bought the Jaeger that Adam put up there for a thousand dollars, or if you did fat, in fact, sell one for for a thousand dollars, or if you did in fact sell one for almost a thousand dollars, that destroys our ability to make money off of our own comedy show, right?

It's kind of a dick move. It kind of is. Unless you're forwarding a percentage of the proceeds, which helps us produce this show that you stole an idea from. Yeah, I think I can sense your anger then, your anger growing much like my own. Our intention was to give these valuable prizes away at our live shows. It mainly burns my toast because I did the, I did the math on our live shows. And by the time all of the expenses we incurred in doing it were added in, it was not even

a break even proposition. It was thinnest of break even if not a little bit of a loss. And that's a whole, you know, we spent a lot of time doing that. Break even would feel like a big win to me at this point. Yeah. And I hope because we're recording this deep into the future that we have. But maybe this person has already atoned for their sin.

I don't know, but it's disappointing. On a number of levels been. Yeah. Ooh. One thing that didn't disappoint me at all was this episode, today's episode. Which I really enjoyed at season 4 episode 14, Clues. It begins with the card sort of taking guy in camping, right? Like he sort of gets on the captain's log and he's like, look, I've done a benevolent captain thing here and I've given the crew some free time to do the things that they love

to do. So we do sort of a tour around the ship. We see Beverly making some cotton candy in six bay. We see other people doing whatever it is they're doing and then we go finally to the holiday. Warf is teaching a Tai Chi class. Oh yeah, that's right. Klingon Tai Chi, which is super fun.

Yeah. And we see Guynen walking into the holodic in Dixon Hill appropriate garb looking for the captain Yeah, she goes in there and the Dixon Hill receptionist lady is there Really resisting the idea still probably has more lines than Kalimini at this point, right? Like more total lines of dialogue. Yeah.

I love the idea that there were like two years later, we're like, hey, my agent just called. He said that they're bringing me back to play extremely stereotypical receptionist character on that space show. So we got another gig. Pretty cool. I had just quit smoking cigarettes too. So kind of conflicted. I need to ask my boss at Denny's if I can take a couple of days off for the shooting schedule. Meanwhile columns just taking a lot of naps on his Starwagon.

Yeah, the deal is like she doesn't want to let Gynon into into the office, but Gynon barges in and and Picard as Dixon Hill is being held up by a like a gangster with a gun and the gangster is saying like oh you stole money from me and they're like doing real bad gangster accents, and the guy goes over by the window, gets filled up with machine gun bullets from like a drive-by shooting onto a second or third floor office, I guess. And...

Kind of a great shot if that's the case. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the guy with the Tommy gun in the passenger side of the Stutch Bearcat below is like, oh there's a guy with Fedora that's got to be Hill Just waiting for a shadow to cross the window. Yeah, and Gainon is like wait, so what do we do? And Picard is like, it's a mystery. Like this guy thought we stole his money and now we got to figure out like who he was. Why he thought that?

Who, who, who was the Chattam? It's just, this is fun. And she's like, this is fun. That's why I called it camping because this is a conversation I have both participated in and heard many times over. Like when one person tries to convince the other person that their form of recreation is fun, in the way that camping is,

guidance like, I do this all the time in the bar. Like I'm listening to people's conversations there. I'm trying to help them come up with solutions to their problems based on the clues they give me. Like, I'm in this holiday and I'm wearing garters. Like this is not fun for me. Yeah. Yeah.

A kind of made me wonder how much fun Gainin has at all. The way she's asking about fun almost sounds like data asking about emotions. Yeah. And I can't think of like a time where she's been like enjoying herself.

Like I can think of times when Riker and Troy and the doctor, like I can think of them all having like fun. I can even think of O'Brien doing something that would like theoretically be fun if he didn't break his arm while he was doing it. In a weird way, like she does not participate in, like you say, either the recreational activities that the crew does. Yeah.

But also, she does not participate in group activities that I can remember. Yeah. She only has one-offs with people for the most part. Can you recall a time where she's like been in a McLaughlin group even? Like I think she was during their card game. Well she's like with the board, but like. But she ever had a card game?

But like she didn't go to the wedding in 10 forward. Yeah. Like that would have been a, like it happens at her workplace. You'd think she'd be involved at some level. I don't think she plays cards either. And I bet she's been- She was off to the bean flicking office during that wedding.

Yeah, feels too much like work for her. Yeah. That's a great question. Some questions raised about Guy, but they get a phone call. It's data on the other end. And he's like, I did not want to break the continuity of your play acting by calling you up on the communicator, so I'm calling you on this phone in the hall of the...

Something's up. He could have gone like with the 1920s Vodville voice there too. Like he really wanted to go for it. He kind of missed an opportunity to have some fun with it. Yeah. You see, we got some weird gases out there. Cam? We got some weird gases, and I'm not talking about what's coming out of your wife's keyster.

One thing, yeah, with data's ability to mimic accents, you can mimic accents, but you can't do contractions. Yeah. That'd be difficult. You can roll an R, but you can't say in apostrophe T. Yeah. I don't know, man. This show is really starting to fall apart.

It's a real barrier to his comedy. Well, they get up to the bridge in these gaseous anomalies, they've been scanning or whatever, they've been scanning or whatever, they've turned up a class M planet, and regulations are that if they discover a planet that might have life, they gotta go try and make contact

or at least see what's up. They have that obligation. So they head in and things are starting to look real strange and the view screen fills with a big space butthole. And it's one of the kinds that knocks everybody out. And data turns around and looks at the bridge and everybody's like slumped over their controls or sleeping on

the floor. They composed that scene really well because you don't see them slump and fall over in a way that might read as ham and cheese. What you are is that you have your single shot on data and then you pull out wide and it reveals the rest of the bridge crew having already passed out. I thought it was very effective and not cheesy. Yeah, I wonder if they shot both things and that was a choice in editing. Like, oh, this kind of works better if we don't see them all go down.

Yeah, because that never looks good. Like, and you've seen it a bunch on this show, like when someone drops a banger on the ship. Yeah. Or if- People are always on the ship. Yeah. Or if people are always fainting. Yeah, it just doesn't look very Victorian. Very Victorian. You get data's wig guy out there to take a fall.

I mean, I think they learn from those early season episodes that doesn't look great. Why not just take it out of consideration altogether? They come back from the title sequence and data is helping the card get up and they all kind of like dust themselves off and they're like, well, what the hell just happened? And date is like, we were all, you were all asleep for 30 seconds and I brought you back, but we went through a wormhole and we're like a days travel from where we started. It's pretty crazy. And they're like, wow, we should go back and see what happened. And he's like, well, that's not a great idea. And that... Yeah, we don't want And he's like, well, that's not a great idea. And that... Yeah, we don't want that to happen again, right guys.

Yeah, I mean, his argument is like fairly sound that could be hazardous to their navigation if they go back to where they just all got knocked out and spat out a day away from where they were. He's like, look at what's much more expendable at this point is just shooting a probe out there. So let's do that. Yeah, so they do it and I get back that it's like a gas giant and not an M-class planet like they thought.

They're like, that's weird. And they're sort of like, all being asked to just go about their day, like they didn't all pass out at once. And that data seems to be doing a lot of head cannon about what went down. And they start to like get a little suspicious of what's going on. And the first person that really is like pushing the theory that they were asleep for much longer is the doctor. She discovers that her cotton candy grew quite a bit more than cotton candy is supposed to grow in the amount of time they're being told. She's got like 24

hours of Cotton Candy growth. Yeah, she sort of has a good supply of Cotton Candy here. Yeah, she puts it in like one of those like things that artsy people take cupcakes in to parties. You know. And Yeah, she puts it on cards table and but cards like that. Looks delicious. Yeah, let me... It's presented so tastefully. Let me eat on one of these. What's up?

Would this go good with Earl Grey? Beverly's doing that thing where she's like, you remember a couple episodes ago when I told you that something was wrong with the universe? Well, I'm back at it again. Back at it again with the white fans. Yeah, and maybe a little bit of a reversal on everybody reflexively placing 100% faith in what the doctor is saying. Although in this context, I guess, data is there to say something the opposite.

So maybe they're more just withholding judgment until they have a better explanation. But this is a great bit of story structure, though, like that uses our knowledge of the crew and their strengths to help tell it. Like, of course, if there's a mystery involved and you have pieces of evidence here and pieces of evidence here, you're going to corroborate that with data. Like, hey, data Beverly's talking about her weird cotton candy needing, you know, a day to grow this amount. What do you think about that?

And data's form of being a second interview of this form of corroboration takes the form of, well it is possible that blank. I would argue that it's blank. And it's like, it's a really amusing form of half-lying. Like, whenever you're caught doing something that you shouldn't be doing, like it's it's really It's insidious like like Ben is that lipstick on your collar?

Well, while it is possible that could be someone's lipstick on my collar Isn't it also possible that I fell into a lipstick display at the mall? It's that sort of stuff like it's deflective dishonesty, and it really plays towards what we know about data. Data doesn't lie, but he can sort of erect, he's jingling his keys at the rest of the crew trying to distract them from the path that they're on. Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Yeah. So they have this McLaughlin group where they're kind of hearing the doctor and data out on these issues. And Picard, he stops the doctor from really losing her shit at data by holding up a hand and then says, you know data, the the transformers on deck 12 need realignment. Why don't you head down there and help Ensign Carlos out with that.

He's waiting for you. And data's like, all right, bye. It's like, man, like you can, you can be as transparent as you want when you're sending data out of the room. Picard basically throws a tennis ball out of the conference room and data goes chasing after it and the door shuts behind him. Yeah, and you just hear him whimpering on the other side.

Yeah. I wish we had some clean audio of my dog whining that we could drop in there, but he always seems to whine when I'm talking so you can't edit it out. Yeah, I know the fear. So yeah They're like it seems like data is trying to feed us a line doesn't it seems like is not being totally forthright and that is really strange really really strange, really uncharacteristic. So they decided to look into it a little bit more. And the two things they want to look at are, can they prove biologically that they've spent more time than data is saying? And can they prove with the ship's clock that they've spent more time than they're saying. And so Jordy is on the clock and the doctor is on the biology.

She gets Ensign no lines to come down from a transport room and she does some scans and she's like, yeah, like this, like her cell decay rate or whatever would indicate that she's, she was out for 24 hours, not 30 seconds. And Jordy's like, like, guys, this shit with the clock is even freakier, because the clock has definitely been tampered with, but the only two people on board the ship that would even know how to do what happened are me and data. And I sure as shit didn't do it. I mean, whenever daylight savings comes around, like I leave the clock wrong for like a period of days.

Yeah. You gotta do that thing. When you accept the computer clock, you gotta like hold two buttons at once for like three seconds until the clock starts flashing. Yeah, and then it's just hours and hours of pressing the up because it goes by minute. There's no way to put the hour up one.

You have to do it. It's such a nightmare. Yeah, press that button 60 times. Give me a break. That's why all the clocks in engineering just flashed 12 like an old person's VCR. So this is pretty terrifying, right? The card has data into the, uh, into the ready room. And it's like, I think that there's either something wrong with you or something wrong

with the universe, but, uh, I'm going to have, I'm going to have Jordy like take you apart and see if, see if you can figure out what's wrong. It's like real betrayal vibes here because like everyone on the crew has basically effectively been roofed and everyone knows the data has something to do with it. Only he's not saying anything. Yeah, it is, this is an episode that is really interesting in terms of the lack of music. Like there's almost no score in large swaths to this and I feel like if they'd played some little creepy you know Some creepy little music in some of these scenes it would have been horrifying

because like the guy the strongest guy the fastest guy on the ship is deceiving them for some unknown reason and like they're all starting to like really realize how Fucked they are in the in the face of that and it it is terrifying like they're all playing it for how Terrified they are of what's going on with data and And I felt it was kind of surprising that they didn't try to make it a more tense episode by just dropping a little music bed in. I prefer when the show is a little more subtle, especially with their music cues,

but I had not noticed the lack of score in this episode the way you did. And so I think it speaks to how effective it was for me and how notable it was for you in an interesting way. Interesting. So the get data's head taken apart and they're like scanning, looks great. And so they're like, they're still just, you know, a lot of head scratching going on. And then Warf winds up in Six Bay and he's like, Hey, listen, my wrist really is killing me.

A warrior does not complain about physical discomfort, but they kept an order to report anything out of the ordinary. And the doctor scans it and she discovers that his wrist has been broken. And so now they're thinking maybe they were awake during the 24 hours because the only way where his wrist got broken was if somebody else was on board the ship or if data did it.

And it's not like data's going to break his wrist while he's asleep. So the only person who ever does that is Riker. Yeah, but he's, he makes sure to get prior consent. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Riker doesn't fuck around. I know that, but I'm, I was talking about an purely masturbatory sense. Oh. Yeah. What Riker doesn't asleep, I think, would terrify most people, even considered. Yeah, so they're like, all right.

Well, the answers to this are going to be back where we come from. We're going back to that planet. So, they head back there and data keeps going like, let's not head back there. I think it's a terrible idea. And they're like, why? Tell us why. Tell us what is going on.

And data's like, I can't, I won't. And the card is like, you know, if you're lying to me, you're going to be court-martialed. I realize that sir. You also realize that you would most likely be stripped down to your wires to find out what the hell has gone wrong. Yes sir. I do.

I'm pursuing this the way I'm supposed to. And so Picard, like at this point, like you know, data's inability to like say an outright lie has led Picard to get enough information to realize that data is operating with a set of orders that Picard is unaware of. And so when they get to this planet, this big cloud of green crap comes out of it. And data is like, let's go, let's get out of here. This is a bad place for us to be. And Troy gets like taken over, right? Yeah, this green gas goes into her face.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, they like, they like, shoot it at them, right? And they're like, it's moving too slow to be a photon torpedo. And they're like, well, it's gonna hit us. Should we do anything? Yeah.

It's like, get nasty powers, right? Yeah. Get out of the way. We know there's like, literally thousands of evasive maneuver codes that the ship has and the people know about, but they just, like, this thing throws a banana cream pie at them and they just stand there and take it.

Troy starts going around the ship and she's got like super deep evil Troy voice going and she's got a doctor girl friend voice. What's that? From the venture brothers, do you not watch that show? Happy not watch that show. Sorry. Oh man. I feel like we're just on different pages with our with our pop culture references lately been. I don't know what it means. Maybe uh maybe we need to think about packing it in. Let's not do that. We're almost halfway there. Yeah, we're really close to halfway, aren't we? Yeah. So yeah, she's like, this evil plan is not working.

And a date is like, no, we could make this work. Let's talk it out with the captain. And so they go back to the bridge. And data does a little exegesis on like the, like what the answer to the mystery is. It's like, it's sort of like Holmes monologuing at the end of a mystery where he explains, he does exposition on everything that has been a question. And like, you know, the deal is they got passed out by these aliens in the green cloud. I think they're called the Paxans, and the Paxans are xenophobes.

They don't want anybody to know that they live in this planet. They don't want anybody to know that they exist. And so their deal is that anybody that comes close, they just use this advanced technology to knock them out. And they send them far away and everybody just assumes it's a wormhole. It's like the CIA assassinating somebody but making it look like it was a heart attack so there's no retribution. And so this has worked for a long time

but they've never come across an Android before and data was immune to their knockout gas. And so like they cut a deal because data managed to wake them up before they were able to complete their plan. And they cut a deal or like, okay, why don't you guys wipe our memories and we'll just have data lie about this ever having happened

and he's like a totally trustworthy guy. You guys into that? And so it turns out, data's been lying this whole time because he's so fucking trustworthy. Yeah. I lied to protect you. See, that's not bad. Yeah, I lied to protect you.

See, that's not bad. That's actually good. It's good. So, yeah, they convinced the PACS ends that they deserve a second chance. Like, the problem was not the plan's premise. It was its execution. Like, they left too many little clues around the ship and if they can, it's sort of like when the, it's sort of like when the Romulans abducted Reiker and he told

them about how, how many flaws their plan had. It wasn't that it was a bad plan, it wasn't executed properly. Right. Yeah, and Reiker does not chime in here at all with that like he'd be his Experience would actually be pretty useful at this. Yeah Yeah so So cards like give us another chance Come on all we have to do is remove all the clues, right?

And she's like for whatever reason the pack's is like, you guys seem worthy of a second chance. Yeah, you're, you're, I like you guys. Like, I hate all guys, but I like you guys. Yeah. And so, yeah, they give them a second chance and they, uh, the end of the app is them all waking up and, and kind of going through the same the same beats that they went through on the last one, but it's like slightly different data is slightly less shifty and suspicious and they're like, all right, well, we'll just shoot a probe back at the at the planet and

get on our way. And I guess we have to assume that it worked. Yeah, I mean, the button on the episode is a slow-potion to data. He launches the probe. He does that, that satisfied head tilt. Mm-hmm. And we're out. Everything's fine. It is really fun to think about there being an episode

that none of the characters but one has any memory of. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. It's sort of like when you read the IMDB of a show and you see which characters were in every episode. Yeah. And then you see one of the main cast members isn't in one for some reason.

Yeah. It's kind of screwy. That is really weird. To keep score that way. Ben, we know Geinen exists out of time. She said it. But the only scene that Geinen is in is at the very beginning. The Geinen goes camping on the holodex scene.

It seems like she would be a great person to talk to when they're chasing down this mystery but they totally forget about her. Yeah, it's real, uh, it's real strange. What do you think happens when Gynon falls down with that big hat? I can probably break her neck. It's really dangerous. Or what if it's like, what if it's like a protective ring that like provides like a flexible bounce to her head, you know. It's like those big inflatable balls that people play with on sports fields, like they get inside the ball and then they run around and bounce in the chair. Yeah, yeah, it's like that.

Yeah, you gotta be, you gotta hope that when Gainin passes out, she isn't like cleaning her nebias, alien assault rifle. I think it's a convenient omission of her character that I think you have to do whenever you have a doux x machina character around, you know, like if she was always around, every tension in every episode could be corrected in a moment. So I get it, but you don't need the beginning. You don't need the cold open at all because all it does is tease her existence and make her absence more felt later on. Totally.

What did you like this episode? Yeah, I really did. make her absence more felt later on. Mm-hmm. Totally. Well, did you like this episode? Yeah, I really did. I love it. Yeah, it's so good, right? Yeah, it's really great. Yeah. I mean, it's not without its problems, and I don't know if we've come across one

that was flawlessly executed, but it's so fun. Yeah, I really dug it. And it really, like, again, it brought up the whole trust issue with data, which is a fun, fun piece of cannon to explore. Yeah. This is a couple episodes in a row where Worf really gets caught with his pants down security wise, right?

Yeah. Well, last episode, his captain was abducted off the ship and he's like, wait, what? You're not on the ship and he's like, wait, what? You're not on the ship. Yeah. And in this episode, Troy walks on to the bridge as as someone who's been taken over by the Paxons. And he dives over the horseshoe is ready to like bring her down. And Troy just does like grabs him by the wrist and flips him over. Yeah. And not a bad, not a good look for Worf at that exact moment. No. I was talking to our friend, Sirouce Farovar, the other day. Yeah.

Who's in Brooklyn? And he's telling me about like the first time somebody told him about Star Trek, like when he was a kid. And they were telling him about how they're like on a spaceship and they spend most of their time on the bridge and he's picturing like an actual bridge over like a body of water. And it jogged loose a memory from my childhood that I thought what they meant when they said bridge was the wooden horseshoe thing. I thought that's what the bridge was. When I was a kid. I would say probably like the first three years I watched the show, I

was under that impression until I asked my dad or something and somebody cleared it up for me. But yeah, there's just so much about this show that I look back and I am embarrassed about myself. That's fun. Adam, I believe we have a priority one message. Maybe we do. Maybe we don't, but I say we go check out the communications relay. We gotta turn our priority one keys at the same time. Are you ready? Three, two, one, turn! Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement on it.

Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Adam, we have one priority one message on the board here today, and it is from Sean Cratchin' to Joanna McCarvel. And here's the message. Hope this is a big surprise for you, happy anniversary! That's really fun. Big surprise. Yeah, uh, that is like, I might take the cake as the shortest, the shortest one we've got,

short and sweet. Do we want to put a little bit of our own spank on it, Adam? I imagine that, uh, that Joanna has been dealing with surprising shit from Sean for quite a while. This being maybe the most surprising moment of their relationship. I wish you a happy anniversary. I wish you all happy anniversaries everywhere. Jemero being Thanksgiving the most difficult holiday for me to control my imposes. I eat all the scallop potatoes. It really plays into the two main things about me. One love of family and two genocide. It's incredibly difficult to control my impulses on this day of days. For many

years, me and Roshan would sit to wait me, the Hushnok. I of course, grab Hushnok leg. The Hushnok Pope snows is the best part of the beard. I hope that was surprising enough for you as it surprised me with how dark that got almost immediately. Yeah. Happy anniversary guys. Thanks for listening to the show.

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But I'm here and we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, it's about to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans, but we're actually, probably.

Yes, probably. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats.

We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available available on maximumfund.org Hey Ben did you find yourself a drunk shimota this episode? I did Adam. My drunk shimota is Worf and we were just talking about this. His jump over the horse shoe. I feel like in an episode where Orph's role as a security officer has been sort of

cheapened by the, like what's at play between Captain Picard and Data. Like, he basically had one thing to do, which was to keep a Troy with her mind taken over away from other members of the bridge crew. And he chooses to do that by like, he's like within six inches of her with his deskbuster before she grabs him and just tosses him across the room.

And it's like, dude, you could have just stayed where you were standing, drawn your phaser and stunder. Like, you don't need to get any closer. Like, is your aim that bad? Because if it is, we've got a problem, Warf. Oh, and Buffalo Troy voice is so creepy. Nice try, Wharf. It puts the phaser on the floor or else it gets its wrist broken again.

You're a big fat cling on aren't you? Yeah. Not feeling great about the security onboard the enterprise. Yeah. How about you? Not feeling great about the security on board the enterprise. Yeah. How about yourself? Did you have a Shimoda of the drunk variety? I did and it's tangentially related to the security thing you bring up when they a little bit after they bring Data into the McLaughlin group and then dismiss him data into the McLaughlin group and then dismiss him. I want to say a couple of scenes later, Picard brings him into the ready room

and is full on accusatory with him about the lie. Yeah. And there is a random security person there in the ready room that because we didn't see the beginning, we can assume escorted him in. And when data is dismissed, Picard's like, Picard's like, get the hell out of here, go back to engineering, random security person,

escorted data there, and data's like, I know the way. Like, I can find it myself. Security person goes with him anyway, because that's where the security person does. But what is a security person supposed to do with a possibly weaponized data at that moment? She's like the goat that was fed to the Taranosaurus in Jurassic Park.

Like, she's gonna get in a turbo lift with him. They're gonna get to engineering and it's gonna be like the elevator in the shining. It's gonna open up and the security person is gonna wash out. Yeah. And data is gonna emerge unscathed. Like they have no answer for the data problem still. Yeah.

And so my Shimoda might be the security person herself, but it might just be the ongoing problem, the idea that there is no security that can save them from data. That's a good one, Adam. Hey Ben, what are we watching for the next episode? The next episode is season four, ep 15. First contact, critically wounded during a first contact mission, Riker is mistaken for a hostile alien. Remember this episode Adam? Well Riker is hostile, but maybe not in the way that they think.

Do you have any recollection of this? I don't have any recollection of this. I'm happy to be getting a Riker episode. I feel like he's taken the last few off as a character. It's just sort of a potted plant lately. Yeah. He was like, I got to get some of that Marina Circus action. I don't want to do any heavy lifting after a future imperfect for a little while. No, he and he and Colin Meeneer in the trailer just drinking, drinking and hanging out on their shoot days. Ben, this is also the halfway point of our series. Did you know that? Oh, really? Yeah. First contact is the exact halfway point in the Star Trek the Next Generation

television series. Interesting. Which makes it also the halfway point for us. Yeah. Interesting that it is the name of the great Star Trek, the next generation film as well. It's true. How do you feel, man? Almost a half way. Feels like it's gone fast. Yeah, I mean, it's all downhill from here. Yeah. We have a lot less turkey-age in the front window than we do in the rear view mirror. So I'm looking forward to it. Plenty of caviar too.

And we still have some vetoes left. I mean, not this season, but the next couple. Yeah. So that's exciting. Let's use them this time. Well, if you have enjoyed the first half of the greatest generation, and would like to see a second half, you can go to Maximumfund.org slash donate. Supporter show on a monthly basis.

It really makes a big difference in our lives, and this takes a lot of work to get it up to the spec we like it to be at. I think Adam, you said it's like almost at this point, a one day a week job. Yeah. I would even go a little further than that, because I definitely think about it like every single day. Yeah, I agree.

I mean, people will having gone to our live shows realized that I have a huge speech in pediment and stuttering problem that takes hours and hours of editing to remove and and you have you have sort of a thing like besides all the profanity you have you have you have all these mouth sounds that that we have to take out every episode my mouth sounds as well it's just a real mouthy piece of engineering we have to do to this, to round it in the shape

and deliver it in a way that is consumable in any way. Yeah, I really envy some of the podcasts where the people are good enough to just record an hour of them talking to each other, throw a little theme music on the front and back and put it on the line. No, yeah, we have a lot of crutches and while we really enjoy doing it, it makes it a lot easier to justify when we can, you know, at least defray costs if not make a little bit of money off the rack. Yeah, when we're doing this we can't work. That's for sure.

That is for sure. Well, so that's a great way to support you can buy t-shirts at maxfunstore.com and If you want to sign up for our mailing list to hear about upcoming live shows, assuming the ones that we are about to do a Slash have just finished Assuming we haven't been arrested and briefly imprisoned. Haha. Uh, yeah, I mean, I, uh, you know, uh, I think, uh, there's a chance that we will keep doing that.

So, uh, keep your eye on a mailing list. Go to gach.biz slash mail and sign up for that. And we should thank Dark Materia for our theme music and Adam or Goosie for our other music the Prairie one music and the worth door music that you sometimes here Made that out of the kindness of his heart because he likes our podcast Adam Goosie is a great guy and What else do we got to say oh social media? Yeah, you talked to us on the Twitter's using the hashtag

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