The Greatest Generation - Covered in a Fish (S2E19)

Episode Date: June 27, 2016

When the Enterprise goes on Uber-duty for a couple of fish people, Lwaxana Troi drops by for a visit. Then, things somehow get even worse when Captain Picard bails on the show and hides in the holodec...k. Is Troi's mom more destructive than Q? Is Pacifica the galaxy's Howard Johnson hotel? Why don't more guest stars get "The Tesh Treatment"? Plus, we announce a t-shirt contest! It's the episode that's an embodiment of an HR violation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate
Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Welcome to the greatest generation, a Star Trek podcast by two guys who are a little embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm your host, Adam Pranica.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm your other host, Ben Harrison. Ben, we are back where we belong. Far, far away from each other with an entire country in between. Yeah. we belong far, far away from each other with an entire country in between. Yeah, our shame has a good buffer zone, and a little bit of skyplag. We got some interesting feedback about those episodes. The feedbacks been positive, but people definitely can notice the difference
Starting point is 00:02:58 when we're together. I'm not that bad. Yeah, it sounded real different to me. I don't know why. I think that maybe we were like trying to keep our voices down, so our dorky didn't transmit into other parts of the house so much. Yeah, you don't want to wake up your parents-in-law
Starting point is 00:03:17 with Star Trek Convo, that's for sure. No. Well, I have a bit of business I wanted to discuss with you. No, really. This is not something you want to take offline. No, I think that this is something our listeners will want to hear. We have heard tell that if our iTunes review mark gets up over the 500 mark, we can start using the maximumfund.org, topat patico store t-shirt printing service, which would enable us to create the first ever
Starting point is 00:03:51 greatest generation t-shirt. You're going to put that thing on and parade around like what of them? Oh man. I'm really excited about that. And I mean last time I looked, we were well past 350 reviews. As of recording, we have 370. So we need only 130 more reviews
Starting point is 00:04:11 to reach the threshold of T-shirts. So here's what I'm going to propose and you tell me if you like this idea. Okay. Can I tell you if I don't like this idea? Yeah. Okay. My idea is this. When we cross the 500 iTunes review line, we are going to go look into our Gmail and people who have sent emails to Drunk Shemota Plus Contest at gmail.com with a screenshot of the review that they left. And if you've already left a review, you can go back and screenshot your review. Just show us the review you left. We're gonna put all those five star reviews in some kind of randomizer.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And pick, I think maybe we'll do this. We'll do one random selection and one that we think is the funniest. Okay. And we'll give out two free t-shirts. So if you want to get a free, greatest gen, West Hot American Summer t-shirt, you can either get it by just writing a review and being selected lottery style at random or through the meritocracy writing the funniest review.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And there's already some pretty fucking hilarious reviews on there. So you're going to have to come with your A-game if you want that meritocracy t-shirt. Well, it sounds like from what I'm hearing it's a couple of things. A, we've decided on a t-shirt idea, first of all, and that first t-shirt is West Out of American Summer. And B, this is another opportunity for us to prove that we can be trusted by our listenership. Oh, you mean after the big veto poll debacle? Right, so I'm asking you, Ben, is this actually going to happen? I guarantee this is going to happen. Well, this sounds great. I'm really excited to have a t-shirt out in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Everyone, please, review up the pod, get us over 500, and then we'll leave you alone about it. Yeah, take a screenshot that shows your review, like physically on iTunes. It has to, you know, resolve on the page. Take a screenshot of that, send it to Drunk Shermota Plus Contest at gmail.com. This is becoming a speech. The cat comes to very entitled. Hmm. I'm going to type a ramb The captain's so very entitled. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I'm typing a ramble on about something everyone knows. Alright, well with that bit of business attended to, let's turn our attention towards this atrocity of an episode. What we have is season two, episode 19, manhunt, or, as I'm calling it, betazoids and heat. Ben, this starts a run of episodes, I think, that we can describe as the, we shouldn't even be here
Starting point is 00:06:53 episodes. You know that scene in an action movie where like the hero has the realization that like, we shouldn't even be up here. Yeah. This is that moment for me in season two. Really? Because I feel like that was like two or three episodes ago. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm sort of late to the party when it comes to that realization. But yeah, a little slow on the uptake atom. It's in full bloom right now. Get a bit of a pack-led level sense of what's going on around you.
Starting point is 00:07:24 These episodes make me sad. of a pack-led level sense of what's going on around you. These episodes make me sad. These episodes don't make me go. We look for episodes toward the middle and end of season three. Episodes to make us happy. This episode starts with beaming over some delegates. Once again, the enterprise is ubring delegates to a fucking conference in Pacifica.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I feel like Pacifica is like the theater district of the Federation, like every fucking taxi ride they pick up is heading there. Yeah, this isn't the first reference to Pacifica. I think it's definitely like cemented its reputation as the Boca Raton Howard Johnson's conference on the planet. Yeah, I mean, they talk about the Pacifica conference
Starting point is 00:08:15 as though it's like a persistent thing the way like Congress is referred to. And have we ever seen it though? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. The boy that reveal is going to be fantastic, right? Yeah. So these are aliens that I find very memorable, mainly for how shitty they are. The idea is that they're like in suspension, but the design of the aliens
Starting point is 00:08:42 is really bad. And it's hard to tell what they're supposed to be. Like I think that when their eyes are fully open, it's a little more clear because as you can kind of see that their eyes, but when their eyes are droopy because they're in suspension, it's like, is that a gill or is that like a, is that just a different orifice? And then like where the human actors inside of them would have eyes is like the back of a Camaro, but it like was in a fender bender and the guy tried to fix it with duct tape. Like it's just just a real hot mess.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I feel like we could riff on how they look for a while. To me, they look like I was recently in a fish market in Tanjiere. I know that makes me sound worldly and interesting, but I'm neither of those things. And this fish market had the biggest, strangest looking fish I've ever seen. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:41 With the giant eyes. Yeah. And these aliens look like those fish if they could stand up. Yeah, and they got like, nudily appendages coming off of their mouths. And they've got, you know, they've got resting duck face to make the packelage envious. Their costume looks like it was inspired by Daniel's Halloween costume
Starting point is 00:10:01 in the karate kid when he dresses in the shower. It's pretty great. Yeah. I think it a lot of jokes in this episode out of a now running gag in the series of Warves opinion is the opposite of everyone's. Contrarian Warf's opinion is the opposite of everyone's. Contrarian Warf. Yeah, like in much the same comedic tone as Warf's scarfing down the scrambled eggs that Reiker made him, Warf is standing there just breathtaking at how beautiful these aliens are.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And they've been beamed up with a bucket full of chum, which is gonna pay off with a big comedic moment later on in the episode. Move, baby, go, go, baby. Quiet, baby, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, not a big, so the Enterprise pulls the chalks out of its wheels and fires up the engine and starts to pull out when they get
Starting point is 00:11:06 an urgent message that another MS series coming aboard. And it's like a shuttlecraft that's coming in and they get this shuttle pilot on screen and he's got about a half of a line before locks on a troy kind of piles into frame and you know, almost knowing how unwelcome she is on my television screen. Please, don't do this to me. She starts the lap sitting right away. Yeah, and so they, she's been like
Starting point is 00:11:39 given Federation clearance as, she's like the ambassador of Betasette, right? Yeah, she was recently given a field promotion to full ambassador. Yeah, good for her. And so like she beams aboard and this is like, like maybe the most frustrating thing about this episode to me. Like I guess it's frustrating that they bring this character back who is explicitly just egregiously irritating. But what's so much more frustrating is that every single joke that they try and do
Starting point is 00:12:14 with this character is a fucking warmed over version of a joke in the last episode that she was in. It's like, oh, she has a huge tall man-serving. Oh, her suitcase is super heavy and she's gonna try and get Picard to carry. Yeah, it's kind of a retread. Yeah, she's saying that Picard is thinking dirty things about her out loud. Oh, embarrassing for Picard.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Oh, oh, oh, oh. Do you think it's weird at all that like, you know, Jean Roddenberry's still alive at this point? Yeah. And this point. Yeah. And. This is his wife. And Major Barrett, yeah, is his wife. And like, suns out boobs out for Major Barrett.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Like, like she is, she's put in some pretty revealing costuming. She's a, she's made to drape herself all over a couple of actors. Yeah. Kind of fascinating of actors. Yeah. Kind of fascinating choice here. Yeah. Well, you know, not everybody practices their relationship the same way. Oh, yeah, I'm not judging. From what I understand, the like, Gene Rowdy-Marry was a pretty forward-thinking dude.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It's impossible. It's in pretty groovy practices. W-slash-R-sl W slash R slash team monogamy. Oh boy, that's some theorizing that you wouldn't get on the official Star Trek podcast. That's how you can tell we're not in the pocket of Big Rod and Barry. Yeah, definitely out of the pocket of Big Rod.
Starting point is 00:13:43 You know, we should also thank everybody that's been tweeting at Star Trek Room. That's, that's fucking awesome. Yeah, that has got to be as annoying as hell to them, really. Yeah. Like, good job, guys. I was looking at it all day to day, because like eight or ten people tweeted at them. Because they're looking for another job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And, and they have not replied to anybody as far as I can tell, but they, and the most recent tweet was from like two weeks ago, and it's just a picture of some donuts. So real, real party and the writers remember there. Yeah. Hope you're having a great time, guys. I feel like, I feel like whoever the showrunner just came in and was like, all right, we're thinking the first episode is set back in time in 1930s, San Francisco. If we were in that room, we'd just kick our feet up on the desk and we're like, what if an alien had a dick for a nose. We are like the embodiment of an HR violation. How quickly could we get kicked off the lot? Man. I feel like pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:15:11 This was the first episode where I noticed that the beta-swords were very dark contacts, and if this seemed as incredibly obvious to you then I apologize but it may just be the major bear its contacts are much larger than Marina's services yeah I think it's also Marina's side of Troy looks like she belongs in event horizon this place is a tool like her eyes are so black they're kind of terrifying or or as like the the bassist and limp is kit. Yeah. West forland. Oh God. How did I know that? I don't know. A guy that I
Starting point is 00:15:55 developed immense respect for after he did an interview where he said he wouldn't listen to limp is get if he wasn't in the band. Yeah, that's some cred. So it becomes clear that the A storyline at this point is Laxana is in a form of Betasoid Manipause that resembles like a cat in heat. She is down to find a partner and she's got her eyes set on Picard. Yeah, I mean, and that's like to the extent that you could say this episode has a storyline
Starting point is 00:16:27 Cuz I feel generous, huh? I feel like it doesn't even really if you took out all the retreads of the first Luxana Troy episode You'd have very little left. Yeah, I mean it'd be like if If you took out all of the things in home alone 2 that were beat for beat copies of Home Alone 1, we'd just be like, there's not really a movie here. Yeah, she keeps doing that thing to Picard where she's like, Shut Luke, what naughty thoughts! Like, she does that five times in this episode. Right, and it's not even funny the first time.
Starting point is 00:17:05 She's the thing though. Are we supposed to believe that that's the truth? I was... Because if we proceed from that premise, then Picard is truly into her big time, like as a sex object. Right. But I think that it raises big questions either way,
Starting point is 00:17:21 because she keeps saying that shit, and then she like tricks him into going to dinner with her. He passes a huge bottle of blue shit to Mr. Ham who chugs it in one go. And then and then Picard is like desperate to get out of her sex gambit at dinner and pulls a classic like call me when I'm on this date with this guy, you know, like Tinder date maneuver. Yeah, you kind of cock blacked himself. Yeah, he like calls data in. Come on, if your dude is permit, why don't you join us for dessert? Picard just keeps throwing
Starting point is 00:17:59 revs into the data boring story engine, which is a, the is the only known perpetual motion machine in the universe. And she gets super bored. And so if she's actually reading his thoughts, she would know that this is him trying to get out of hanging with her, right? Right. Right. And at this point, he thinks that she can read his thoughts.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So I don't understand how he could come up with a plan like this and then act on it, knowing that she knew what motivated it. Right, and the answer that I came up with is that her power is only set to detect horny. Like it can't detect bullshit. Or any other thing on the emotional spectrum. So there's sort of dance around this by saying that her, she's hitting the,
Starting point is 00:18:51 she's having the change. And in Betasoid biology, that means she wants that surfboard as bad as she's ever wanted it before. And like basically doesn't care who gives it to her as long as she gets it. And that has impeded her ability to read minds dramatically. But it's like, it's unclear how dramatically because she theoretically just got a window into anybody's mind that she wants, right?
Starting point is 00:19:25 It would seem that way, but like when you have options as fertile as that for a character, it's really strange to me why there's so much plot retread to this episode. Right. You could really take that anywhere and they just copy and paste from that first Luxana episode. Yeah, I mean like like, you know what, it's called character development. Like, you don't just repeat. You build off of that character.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And when the last two episodes have been obviously season one scripts. Yeah. Like, this one is obviously a season one script that was actually also in season one. So Picard convenes a big meeting and it's decided that the best way to deal with this locks on and wanting to fuck his brains out situation is go hide essentially. And so for the rest of the episode, he is doing Dixon Hill on the on the holiday act and the bridge crew is like covering for him saying he's detained on urgent shifts business whenever Waxana asks asks about him. This was the moment that filled me with the most regret about using the video because I didn't know this was a combo episode of Dixon Hill and
Starting point is 00:20:51 Luxana Troy. It was this moment really made me feel bad. Right. It's like it's like if we weren't being egregious enough with the with the copy-pasting Holy Macro. Yeah. Great Dixon Hill, woohoo. My love is a creep, but long and chill, but that's a which longer than us at the PC. How do you know you're not the boy? Picard's in the holiday and he's trying to chill out. But all of the Dixon Hill stories involved Dixon Hill attempting to be murdered. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So there's a pretty funny scene where he's at his desk and he's like, all right, start the program. And a guy comes in and he's like, Dixon Hill, you fucking asshole. And he pulls out a pistol and and Picard jumps behind his desk. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like I'm in here for chill hangs. Why don't we switch to a different Dixon Hill storyline? And he does this like three times and each time it's a guy basically brandishing a larger weapon to shoot him. That part was pretty funny to me.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah, I mean, there was there was some writer asked to do a little bit of punch up on that beat who just is it's like a note inside of a fortune cookie that says help I'm trapped in a fortune cookie factory. Right. I feel like if if Picard had let that go, like the guys' weapons would have just turned into bazookas and like jeep mounted howitzers and like nuclear submarines. Yeah. Like it was kind of getting out of hand.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So. Gene Hackman shows up. Eventually, Laxana tracks them down. Yeah, and bust into their program. And this is the bar that Dixon Hill hangs at. It's got all the mise en scene that you'd expect. You got your Glen Middle or music. You got your slowly spinning fans.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You got your dusty room. Wait, does she say that she wants to be Riker's husband? She does. I guess we could go over that part. I guess. So before Loxana tracks them down in the holodeck, she decides to marry Riker for some reason. Like, she just barges onto the bridge. Listen Adam, we could talk about a lot of things that happen in this episode. I don't feel like the plot really like like no one element of this plot leads to another. So it's like it's almost not worth mentioning. Like I think the only thing worth doing is to an end to our show for for its plot recap accuracy. I think maybe they do, but like this plot is unrecapable. It's so fucking insane. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think the only thing
Starting point is 00:23:22 worth mentioning is that she denounces that Riker is going to be her husband and he gets a real shitty dengrin on his face like he the way Freaks plays this is it's great. He really sigs when you expect him to zag and I think it's one of the reasons that Riker is a great character. And by Zieg, you mean he takes out his dick. So it all comes to a head in the holodeck where Waxana falls in love with the holographic bartender. This is the most remarkable man I've never been anyone like him.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Who she's quite taken with because she can't read his mind. Yeah, I feel like Waxana sees the sexual potential of the holiday because much as Riker does. Mm-hmm. In a moment where I feel like it's game-respect game for both Riker and Luxana at that moment. Yeah. And so they let her be distracted in there. They go, uh, thaw out the Anpedans who are really excited about eating their chum and Palasi like motions and the camera pulls back and warf is standing there and like pushes it forward
Starting point is 00:24:31 toward them. He flips it open, reaches both hands in as though he's gonna start feeding them out of his hands. It is so silly because they just come and like push him out of the way and start going it down on it. And it's like, why did he think that that was how it was gonna go down? Like, have you ever met an ambassador
Starting point is 00:24:50 that wanted to eat out of your hands? I love that scene so much. It was like it was SeaWorld and Warf wanted to feed the dolphins himself. It was so great. I feel like nobody at this point in the shoot was taking anything seriously. And Michael Durham was like, hey guys, let me just try something in this take.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I think it's going to be kind of funny. Quick note, how about we just do the last take with me making a bowl out of my hands? And maybe feeding them like that? All right, Michael, I mean, I can't say we're going to use it, but go ahead. Go sick, Mike. God. That total martini shot there. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:45 And she's like, oh, by the way, those guys are assassins and they're going to, to Pacific, to kill everybody, which is like an unmotivated crazy caper that has nothing to do with the rest of the episode. She's like, yeah, no, check their, check their robes, their pact of the explosives that are hard to detect.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And they just like, yep, they sure are. Much like Daniel used his own shower costume as a terror device at that party, the antedans were planning on using their costumes as well. Yeah, so she foils their plot and bids everybody at you, she's, you know, learned her lesson or whatever. I don't know. She beams down and like mid-beam accuses Picard of having such naughty thoughts about her. And, uh, yeah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da as it deserved. I think, yeah, I mean, I just don't think that there's much to talk about here. It's like, like this one holds together less than the one that was written during the writer's strike by two of the producers getting yes, no answers from the writer on the phone, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Okay, there's something I want to run by you you and I think it might be a good idea to start something that I'm going to call the Q versus Luxana Troy power rankings. Because I think we both have, I think we have some complicated feelings about these characters and they both, they both had episodes of their own a couple of times now. Do you rank one above the other in terms of general annoyance? Do you feel like Luxana is the female Q? See, here's the thing. Like, I just like them for very different reasons. I dislike Q episodes because Q is a day sex mac and a like, it's just, I don't think it's good sci-fi to have something that is so powerful that it might as well be God. Yeah. And I don't think, I think I don't like Loxana episodes because they feel like they are there to kill time.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And like this episode is literally about killing time. Like Picard is killing time the entire time. Yeah. Yeah. What do we do on this long flight to this place while we're ubering? Why are we supposed to care if Picard doesn't care? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, well put. So I like the idea of having power rankings. I'm not quite sure what scale we can rank them on because they feel like apples and oranges to me. How about we call it power to destroy an episode? Well, I think the walk's on us got got to lead at the moment because I think so too. Because I think we can discount the pilot just because they obviously didn't even know what type of television show they were making at that point. They had so many questions.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And the only other two Q episodes that we have to reference our split decision. One is a turkey and one is pretty great. All right, that makes sense to me. Hey, Ben. What's that Adam? As you were watching this terrible episode, did you find a drunk Shimoda? I think that like obviously Mr. Homme is a drunk Shimoda. I think obviously the Waxana is always tempting but a Picard got it for me with this gambit of radioing up data mid-date.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I just, I cannot believe that a man as, as, why, as demonstrably wise as Picard would think that that would work. And like he's very lucky that he got away with it, essentially. Like, if she is a diplomat of the highest rank, he did something incredibly offensive to her. And did it under the impression that she was able to perfectly read his mind? Like, it's insane. I think if the only information we have is a season and 19 episodes into the second season. If the only information we have is what we know about Picard up to now, I don't think we
Starting point is 00:32:12 can rule out that Picard wanted to fuck Luxana on the holodeck and he was just hanging out there waiting to be discovered. Maybe that was the plan all along. Maybe. I got a random question. If Mr. Homme rings the bell every time something is eaten, does he have to go into the bedroom too? Hey, we don't know what what Betasoid anatomy looks like. I'm gonna cut that one out. Why? So my Shimoda was, I'm not sure if you knew this piece of trivia. One of the anteedems is played by Mick Fleetwood. Did you know that? I did see that on the bottom of the Wikipedia page. So let me tell you about Mick Fleetwood. As it pertains to this episode, Mick Fleetwood wanted to be in Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He wanted to be in Star Trek so bad that he was willing to be in Antedon. willing to be recognized so much that he asked for a very special appearance by Mick Fleetwood credit. Yeah. And what they did is they basically covered him in a fish. Right. They didn't even make him a painstick... Uh, clean up. Yeah, they didn't even give him the test treatment. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I thought that was awesome. Like, I would like all of the vanity of the credit, but none of the vanity of actually having my face being seen. That is a decision that seems so bizarre that it could only be a Shimoda decision. Good call. I don't understand it. I am a beautiful,
Starting point is 00:33:51 There are all light. What do we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode of the show is season two episode 20, The Emissary. An official mission becomes a personal matter. When Worf's former love is sent to the Enterprise to mediate a dispute between Klingons and the Federation. I don't even know why we're doing these pre-show previews anymore because there's no videos in our pocket to use.
Starting point is 00:34:20 We're just done an express train to Kratville. I would not have burned a veto even if I had one because I remember liking this episode. Yeah, I mean, this is going to be a warf-centric episode, which I think is the second time they've ever chosen to do that. Throw the keys to the episode to Warf. Put Warf in the driver's seat. God, anything is going to be better than manhunt.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Put war from the driver's seat. God, anything is going to be better than manhunt. I need a palette cleanser for this one, for sure. But, you know what even saying that I'm not sure it deserves to be on Mount Armas, it wasn't quite that bad. You know? And I can't even articulate why. Like, episodes like Code of Honor are, you just come off feeling insulted. Right. I wasn't insulted when I saw this.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It just seemed lazy and it made me sad. At one point, I was just scratching my head like, is there even a theme in this episode? Like, it's called manhunt, but like, that's not them. That doesn't even feel like the main thing that's going on. It feels like time wasting. Is there a moral or a message to this one? That doesn't even feel like the main thing that's going on. It feels like time wasting. Is there a moral or a message to this one? Probably have to go listen to Mission Log for that. Yeah. I wonder what they did with this.
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