The Greatest Generation - Friendship Bidet (VOY S5E12)
Episode Date: February 13, 2023When a holographic war breaks out on Planet X, Captain Janeway gets into character to help unstick the ship. But with the safeties permanently off for the visiting photonic gangsters, an alliance with... Captain Proton is their best chance to defeat Chaotica. How far down does the Bolian bifurcation go? Could Fek'lhr’s Robot ever learn to love? Who is the sexual Milhouse of Voyager? It’s the episode that brakes for goth girls!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!
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Welcome to the greatest generation.
It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed.
I have a Star Trek podcast.
I've been Harrison.
I'm Adam Kranica.
My watch said I took a hard fall just now.
Oh, because you clapped?
Yeah.
I must have clapped really hard.
I've never seen that before of you.
Dude.
Is it possible that your watch could tell that you were about to start recording an episode
of a Star Trek podcast and it was like, maybe I should call somebody that can help.
Yeah, maybe you'd be happier in a hospital.
I have had that before.
I forget what triggered it. My watch says it looks like
you've taken a hard fall. Whoa. But it was something similarly not a fall. Were you wearing it while jerking off?
Well, I wear my watch on my left hand, my dominant hand by many measures, but...
You know what, I would have guessed that you jerked at European.
Personally, I'm really surprised by this.
I lost a lot of money on what hand does Ben jerk off with?
Is European between the thumb and forefinger and American between the index finger and
the middle finger, like the way we smoke our cigarettes differently?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, no, I wasn't thinking about it that way.
No, that might be.
I guess I was thinking of it in the driving on the other side of the road thing
But that's not European. No, that's that's English. I they were European for a minute
But then they stopped yeah because a bunch of old assholes
Cast votes over there the joke doesn't make sense. Yeah, none of it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah
So anyways here we are.
Good start.
Good start by me.
Just hitting the old joke, Pommelhorse.
Yeah, yeah.
I think we caught an attempted attack
by the stupid glitter person.
Caught it before it started,
nipped it in the bud.
I thought we weren't going to talk about this on the show.'m just saying like don't even try it at this point because it's it's a you're not gonna get him past the goalie
We or wise to that one person
You really you really don't know how to deal with this do you?
like I hope you like receiving more and varied vehicles for glitter at your house because
that's what you're going to get.
Well, you're going to be starting to pick up the PO box after this episode.
So that's part of my insurance policy.
I'm throwing all those packages away between the post office and my house.
Well, I'm saying our system is good.
And I'm proud of our team for having come up with a good system.
Oh, yeah.
Flahless system.
I really like was being charitable that this was a person that, you know,
made an attempt at a joke that just didn't land right.
It was an asshole the whole time.
Yeah, I mean, this is what happens. You appease assholes and maybe project good intentions
onto assholes when they're just assholes the whole time.
Yeah.
They always have been.
It is very hard for me to believe
that someone is truly an asshole, but they're out there.
People that are bad at their core are out there.
I have the opposite problem.
I have a hair trigger, asshole meter, and I fucking drop those idiots just as soon as I get the chance.
And never speak of or to them again.
Yeah. it's pretty
diabolical of you. Yeah, well, I've got great ass hole hygiene. I
got fucking friendship, but they shoot an all up in there, man.
Yeah, I've seen your bidet work. Does the trick it's remarkable.
It keeps my workplace glitter free. I'll tell you that much
Mm-hmm. You're saying that like my naevite is why my is you're blaming the victim here
No, I'm not but the next time it happens I think I'll dry perfectly straight line from that moment to this conversation
Wow, it's nice to know that I work with somebody
that has this much respect for me as a person.
I have the utmost respect for you as a person.
I just, I'm incredulous by the idea
that bringing it up could do anything but harm.
I think the friends of the soda deserve to know
that an attempt was foiled.
And this person deserves to know also that they didn't work.
So knock it off.
All right. The world's most boring villain, even more boring than a fucking
holodeck villain in today's episode, so I think we're talking about it.
It's like, this is your fucking troll, really? Yeah.
It's so sad.
It's so sad at the end of the day.
Yeah.
We're trying to make a comedy show
and you turn it into a tragedy show.
I think you're giving this person too much power, Ben.
I don't think of them at all.
All right.
Well, do you want to just record a different merit?
I mean, it seems like you're sad about this.
No, I'm not sad about it.
I just...
You're sad that I brought it up.
I don't want it to happen again,
and I think the only way to ensure that possibility
or increase the chances of that is to just ignore it entirely.
All right.
Well, we can...
Let's go back to the beginning and re-record.
This feels like an exciting gamble.
I didn't know you were the gambling type, Ben.
I like the idea that if somebody is going to troll us, be interesting at least, you know.
Oh yeah, this person did not rise to the occasion.
No, no.
They fell flat on their face.
And also, I don't want to know what their version
of interesting is.
This is the challenge I'm trying to avoid, Ben.
All right, so let's re-record.
I don't, we don't need to re-record.
Fuck it. Let's just talk about the stupid episode of Star Trek.
Spicy Marin!
And then we'll see if we ever record another one again. Hmm.
I stay except today.
I think it's gonna be a good one,
based on the Star Trek Voyager Season 5 episode 12.
Bright of Chaotica!
Exclamation point.
Exclamation point at the end.
Yeah.
Reaver course.
Unless you've got something a little bigger
in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around.
Oh, darn.
So we start with a title screen for Captain Proton.
First time we've seen the Captain Proton logo, I think.
Did you ever fuck around with HyperCard?
Yeah, yeah, I had HyperCard.
This feels like a HyperCcard title screen, you know?
It really does.
Yeah, that like just using the like vector lasso tool
in Photoshop and like the non-contiguous paint bucket
of white to fill it in.
Yeah, it's great.
That level of typography on this title screen.
There must have been a conversation about how much shit to put on this.
Right.
Do you want to get into tracking?
Do you want to get into weird static or smudges or whatever?
Right.
As it is, this is a super crystal clean, remasteraster, old TV show version
of what we get here, right?
Yeah, no, no dust and scratches, no, you know,
like roll outs or burn effects on the footage.
But we're getting like a voiceover,
talking us through the events of the last episode
of Captain Proton, Constance Fairchild or whatever, what's her name?
Good heart.
Constance Goodheart is screaming her full head off.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Yeah!
Yeah!
Like that's kind of the thing she does.
This lady has the pipes to do it.
Yeah.
She can really scream.
Good casting.
Something hit me while watching this,
which is that I would be very excited if they
announced that the next thing coming to the Paramount Plus app was a,
like a limited series of Captain Proton episodes, like 10,
10 episodes of Captain Proton coming this fall to Paramount Plus.
I mean, even as like a short trek thing,
you could see the fun of that.
Yeah, it'd be great.
It'd be great.
We cut to a wide shot where Tom and Harry
are watching this on one of their circular TV screens
inside the spaceships that Captain Proton pilots.
And this is the recap for the players of the game
of what happened in the previous episode.
Yeah.
This isn't the first kind of meta commentary
about Star Trek itself, but this episode decides on.
Yeah, so they're off to fight Chaotica again
and they're talking about like,
oh yeah, there was a lot of like exaggeration
of how cool the last episode was and sure.
They're having this conversation
when they get interrupted by the FaceTime Otron.
Captain Proton.
Surrender.
Not a chance.
Were you distracted at all by just the suggestion
that Dr. Chaotica could be stunt casting and was not.
Because I spent a lot of time in the beginning of this episode going, is Dr. Keatica played
by a that guy? Who was Dr. Keatica? Over and over in my head, I was like, this isn't someone
of that I know, is it? And it's not. But I wonder, were you distracted by not stunt casting
as much as you would be by if they had stunt cast,
Dr. Keatica?
Like, I wonder how much they thought about maybe doing that.
Yeah, I mean, I guess in the script,
they sort of write it toward,
maybe we'll see Keatica again.
And I wonder if you don't stunt cast a character
that you think you might wanna bring back
just for like, budgetary reasons, like if we ever do another episode with Chaotica, we're going
to have to pay the name brand actor a lot more than the, you know, the tape player.
The guy we cast really didn't care about getting famous, so.
I mean, this guy is chewing scenery.
He is really throwing himself into the role.
I think he's doing a good job.
Maybe it's a menuette situation where you think you're
going to play the next Dr. Chaotica Holodeck program,
but it's a different person than you're expecting.
Oh, man.
You can't fall in love with the next doctor,
Keodica, the way you did this one.
Right.
It's not going to be the same.
It really isn't.
So Keodica is asking for them to, you know,
surrender or something and showing off that he's got
Constance Goodheart and Camptive and, you know,
bragging about his death ray, classic call to adventure
here, and the intrepid captain, proton, and whatever character Harry Kim is playing,
crash their ship on the surface of this planet.
Is this one planet X?
Oh, I didn't get its name.
Because he says planet X just looks just like mercury, right?
Oh, yeah.
So.
I mean, you could tell by its color.
Yeah, they're identical.
Sets were expensive.
It's a Star Trek cave central, this planet.
What is Kim doing here?
Kim has never been more of a mill house than he is.
Maybe at the beginning of this episode.
I love how he kind of takes what Paris is saying
and then kind of repeats it in an overacting kind of way.
Is that what Robin used to do in the old Batman TV show?
It feels like that, you know?
What does he even hear for?
What is he getting out of this? You mean precisely, Robin? I mean, the last time we got to get tied up by the Delaney
Sisters, which, oh yeah, you know what, I, there is that suggestion before the theme where
they like set out onto their mission. And Paris is like, well, don't forget, we've got
a hero of women to look forward to. I think Harry is just going to like ride the coattails
of Captain Proton until he gets to the sex parts of this game.
Let's go.
I'm right behind you.
Yeah, I mean, there's always one episode
that centers the sidekick, right?
Right, right.
He's just going to play up until then.
So as they walk across the surface of Planet X, they come to a point where they get a great
vista Captain Proton announces that this is called the Fortress of Doom.
And Harry's like Fortress of Doom, more like Fortress of Dildos.
Yeah.
How did they even build this thing?
That's really impressive.
Probably just got a bunch of Dildos and painted windows on them.
Oh, I meant in the world of the story, probably a lot of slave labor, right?
Yeah, it seems like a pretty steep outcropping of rock to be doing major construction on.
You know, any super villain, this is an Isaac Asimov theory, right? Like any super villain who has the power to shoot laser beams, probably also has the power
to construct a fortress on the top of a mountain without using slave labor.
Yeah.
That's a thing, right?
But Keatica would use it because it's cruel, you know?
Right.
Yeah.
A wood.
So they don't really get to get very far into this game, right?
Like they're going to go to the underground caverns when there's a banger and they start
looking around and they find these these pink holes opening up.
Yeah.
More holes than they had bargained for in the solidic program.
Yeah.
And the fact that their pink really breaks K-Fave because this is supposed to be a black
and white game.
They look like the pink and the blue things from the very first episode of Star Trek, the
next generation, right?
Oh, it's a night though.
Maybe a little bit, yeah.
They're hanging some dangle, you know?
Yeah, but they're quite as rubbery, you know.
Right, yeah, these are little hurdles.
Yeah, well, instead of little jellyfish
Instead of big jellyfish, right
After the theme they realized they can't turn off the program. Yeah, this seems sufficient enough to like hit the power button on the console
Right, you can't play through this pull the caratures out
Blow through your t-shirt into it. Mm-hmm
out blow through your t-shirt into it. None of that stuff works.
So they head back to the spaceship where they can open a panel and interact with holodeck
controls manually.
Meanwhile, up on the bridge, the ship has come to a complete stop in space.
And the captain marches onto the bridge to ask why.
And nobody really knows.
Yeah, it's the ship stuck in space.
It's also a bunch of systems that don't work anymore.
Yeah.
Something, something, something having to do with subspace.
Something gravimetric particle.
This doesn't sound like a time travel thing.
No.
I was listening very closely.
Not time travel.
No way.
Back in the holiday Paris and Kim are staffed
by some non-player characters at the foot of this cave,
and they just shoot them without giving them
a second thought.
I love this.
Yeah, you're a big fan of wasting NPCs
for no good reason, right?
And then like for good measure shoots them again
after they're down.
This is like the the holiday version of like doing that crouch your nuts over the dead body thing.
That you see in some video games, like multiplayer style.
Well, as soon as he shot Lone's act,
they shot the other two NPCs, because at that point,
what's the difference?
He had to get it on, Adam.
Yeah, he had to get it on, Adam. Yeah, you really did. Of course, it's locked in.
What?
Did this one to me?
Very careful, because I'm on time to say this once.
Who?
We kind of cut back and forth a lot here.
There's stuff on the bridge, stuff in the holodeck.
They try to like go to warp again,
and this is just shaking the ship around.
The bangers get more and more intense
and they are stuck in the mud.
They are not moving.
Low key, this is maybe one of the scariest things
that can happen on a Star Trek, right?
Like you think about attack from other spaceship.
You think about giant space butthole,
sucking you in and destroying you.
Maybe temporal anomaly, making you replay your destruction over and over again
But like low-key very scary stuck in space maybe forever. Yeah, that sounds awful
Yeah, you just run out of resources and bathrooms and and then you did yeah sucks terrifying
The only way that's Tom and Harry can figure out to get out of the holodeck is a site-to-site
transport.
So they put that into effect and materialize in the hallway in their costumes.
And then we are in the ASLAB looking at a 3D representation of what the ship has found
itself inside of, which is described as a subspace sand bar by BLT.
Yeah. My idea would be not to swim the ship directly to shore,
but instead swim parallel to shore until you're free of that subspace current.
Yeah.
And then you can make it out without tiring your ship out, right?
Wow.
Very clever.
I know.
It's spoken like a true host of the Santa Monica Mountains podcast.
Do do do do.
Right?
Yeah.
But like, unfortunately, they're down a bunch of the systems that they could be using
to solve this problem.
Right.
So, they're really left with just kind of riffing in this meeting about
what might help. There's coffee in anything that might explain what's holding us here.
Captain actually has some practical experience that may be helpful in this situation based
on a nebula that she was inside of one time while working as the science officer on another ship. And she's kind of getting
herself set up for like a really grandiose aha moment where she demonstrates to the crew
that she's the captain because she's the smartest one in the room. And seven really smashes
her nuts here. She comes in and just like gets the words right out of her mouth. She comes very close to making me Chinese finger trap
comparison of a TNG episode,
but they don't quite do that.
I think Seven has probably heard Miriam back
when I was on a ship stories from being in the collective.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
So many that they just bore the shit out of her.
But we really don't get many of those from Janeway Doey.
And I kind of wish there were more of them.
So much so that like, I'm sure you and I have repeated stories
on the show before.
You just let the other person go.
It's fine.
You've heard this one before, but it's okay.
But like...
I wouldn't say that you've ever just let me go.
You always take exception to me,
saying anything on the show in one way or another.
Well, like, I wish there were more of that from Janeway,
like, oh, here she goes again.
She's telling that nebular story.
We know.
That's not the case, She doesn't really tell stories. Yeah.
The, uh, Hellbutani, named for an astronomer from Haran. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a soup
in the, uh, in the soup Nazi episode of the Seinfeld show. I'm a clam chowder, one albatoni.
I didn't get my bread.
So the plan that got Janeway out of trouble before is something they're going to try to
implement this time, which is like, you know, the more you resist,
the more this thing just wears you down. Yeah. Maybe the key to getting out of this thing is like,
doing a little creepin. Yeah. Try and go slow. Yeah. Maybe put a couple of pieces of lumber under the wheels, you know, see if you can get some traction in that mud. It's why we carry all of this sand in the cargo bay. Why not? So we cut from this
to these heralds in the holodeck and some beams of light come out of them and a couple of kind of
old-timey gangster-looking guys materialize. They're in like, you know, their wing tips and three P suits and Fedoras.
And they walk around, they have some kind of tricorder, they're scanning, and they run
into Launzac and Launzac arrests them immediately.
I thought one of these gangsters really looked like Henry Silva.
Oh.
Like the lead gangster.
Yeah.
This actor Jim Crestelute, unfortunately,
has been blessed with Henry Silva face.
But it really works for him in an episode like this.
He looks period correct in the face.
He does.
He does have past person face in the same way as Henry Silva.
And I mean, all of the chaotic averse characters
kind of do.
Yeah, they do a good job with it.
They're well cast from that standpoint.
Do you know you have a past face if you have one?
Like if you're an actor and you see like a casting call,
we're looking for past faces.
Like, do you see yourself in that request
and you're like, I think I got a shot at that one.
You're in the waiting room at the audition
and you're looking around with all the other people
that are also in black and white.
Yeah, the waiting room is in black and white,
very magical way.
I've been told that I have past face.
I don't think that at all.
I think you're a modern, good-looking fella.
Hey, thanks.
I think you are too, buddy.
That may be the first positive thing you've said to me today.
It is.
I've only been talking to you for 26 minutes.
But sort of like that thing that happens when you're compared to a famous who is not known
for being good-looking, you could really maybe not take that as a compliment, right?
Like, it past faces not always a compliment.
No.
Even though we meet it in this case as one.
Yeah, these are handsome past faces.
Mm-hmm.
And I know all these people are listening, which is why I say that.
Right.
Otherwise, they'd be dragging these motherfuckers for being so ugly.
Do you think Daron as a past face?
Is that something that, you know, how sometimes you encounter a baby that just looks old,
like an old man or an old woman?
Is that where past face comes from?
Daron definitely had an old man shit going on early on, but, you know, he's almost five months old now and he'd really come around
to looking like a baby and not a whizzing old man.
Yeah.
Good looking kid.
Yeah, he's a real honk.
So Lanzack is like in the middle of getting chewed out by Chaotiki when he returns to
the fortress of Dildos,
but he reveals that he has these prisoners
and that's great news.
So they bring these prisoners in
and the prisoners are like, yeah, we're like explorers
and we're interested in learning about other photonic entities
and making diplomatic contact and all that.
These poor guys. Yeah, Chaotic doesn't really wired to receive this message
in a positive way.
I'm growing weary of this show up.
Neither is his robot wired for such a thing.
No.
One of them gets whacked right here,
one of these photonic beings.
Yeah.
And the other has to dematerialize himself and escape. They didn't
realize that they were being brought into meet the ruler of the cosmos when they made this
incursion into the holodeck. It's really efficient world building where you recognize immediately
the lethality of that moment. Like that guy is dead based on very few hints
that we've gotten in the scene.
It's a senseless death.
It's hard to countenance.
Yeah.
The robot quickly takes the medicine
out of the Henry Silva's jacket pocket
and takes that to the dome.
As a senior citizen, you're probably aware
of the threat robots pose.
Is this the same robot? It seems like it totally could be the same robot, right? I looked
up what happened to this robot and it was sold online, you know, through like a Star Trek
action. Uh-huh. And I'm just going to search to see who the high bidder was. I think you could probably guess.
Get it long.
Not shocking, not shocking.
Head and arm detached,
but possible to glue back together
if that's what you wanted to do.
He was stating the obvious again.
One hundred and three.
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The captain goes down to Nielix's restaurant in a real foul mood.
But they haven't even attempted the get out of the sand bar thing yet.
Captain Janeway has a real marion of this episode kind of mood going.
Yeah. Before finally taking some coffee to the dome and that makes it only a little bit better.
Yeah.
That one takes the edge off, but only so much because Nelix cannot allow for any more
edges to be removed.
Yeah.
He's the bear of some bad news because they're down to just a few replicators,
but also they're down to very few lavatories. I was wondering if lavatories is just kind of code
for the special transporter beams that get out the poops. I thought a lot about this and I'm thinking that maybe the special
Transporters that beam out waste material
Maybe they're only responsible for either
Solid or liquid waste and you still have to use a conventional bathroom for the other thing. Oh dang
You know, yeah, like maybe you're beaming out shits because that's, that has to do with the annular confinement beam.
I think we all know that.
Right.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
Maybe you got a site, you got to use an actual toilet for the piss part.
Right, right.
I mean, the thing being described here has real third day of a music festival vibes.
Like, you do not want to be using these bathrooms at this point.
You don't want to be queuing up for them.
You don't want anything to do with them, but there's only a couple.
Yeah.
And if you get in line behind a bolion, woof.
Yeah.
Do bolions do bathroom the same way that Adam Pranaka does bathroom?
Is that what's going on?
Well, if we're just pissing in those bathrooms,
yeah, I think we can gather that the,
the bolion penis is a wonder.
It's the water gun that can shoot around corners.
Do you think the bifurcation goes all the way down?
Oh yeah.
Is that rude to ask a bullion down to the base?
It may it might be even trifricated.
Do you think of that? That's a lot to shake off before putting it back in the pants.
Right. Yeah. You get triple calico cut pants if you're not careful. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're dressing all three ways.
That's the case.
So they attempt this gambit with the thrusters to get out
and it looks like it's going pretty well at first.
They're making some progress and then it doesn't.
It doesn't work anymore.
I don't know.
I thought maybe throwing some more coal
on the fire with the thrusters was not considered
as one of the possibilities.
Like it's obviously not what's going wrong here,
but like.
I thought the whole point was to try less.
Like they should have backed it off.
They should have.
Yeah.
Or just like rotated the ship around
and then did the forward thrusters or something?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Smack it up, flip it and reverse it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's also like guns going off
and they eventually localized the guns to the holodeck
and Harry explains, oh yeah, we may have left something running
in there. And this is when they realized that the war is happening within.
I can understand why Tuvac is sent with Paris to investigate for all of the comedy reasons
that are evident once he arrives. Right. But come on, man, can we give Chico Te something to do? Anything. Can we give him anything to do at this point in the season?
Sounds great. Yeah. I mean, like it'd be nice if he like at least got to go down to Nielix's
Tiki Wounge program a lot in season five, but he doesn't even get to do that.
Cass has more to do this season than Ch go day. It's really saying something.
When Tuak and Paris arrive, they find a lot of smoking craters and the corpses of several
NPCs including that of Constance Goodheart.
She's dead.
RSVP.
Yeah.
I'm sure you two were very close.
These are bloodless deaths though. Yeah. I'm sure you two were very close. These are bloodless deaths though.
Yeah.
They did not spill a lot of blood in that mud.
No.
But that looks at things.
The dildos and the fortress of dildos are shredded.
The devil's robot is all charred and burned up and it's talking all crazy. I love how the robot is just leaning against the cave wall
instead of down on the ground.
And you know the reason for that, right?
Like, you can't fix him and then watch him try to stand up
for the 20 minutes it would take for him to do that.
Like, he could only ever be leaning for that reason.
We don't have the time to watch you try to stay it up.
Yeah, but the effect is that it sort of seems like the grow lot is just drunk.
Haha.
Oh man, maybe that last round of shots was a bad idea.
Man, I really love a lean and over drug.
Yeah, yeah.
That is a good kind of drug.
and overdrug. Yeah, yeah. That is a good kind of drug. I can't finish this walk home. I just need to, I just need to lean. Let me just rest my
eyes for a minute, man. That's really the reason why you lean. It's because if you were to lay
down, you'd just pass out, but the lean keeps you awake, at least a little bit.
There's a little bit of an insurance policy in the lean.
Oh, I like that it's the devil's robot.
Made me wonder what fecklar's robot would look like.
Oh, man, I could tell you, fecklar's robot would be wet.
Very wet.
But then would it like rust, you know?
Great question.
I don't know.
Like a robot that learns to love and then cries and rusts.
Would Feclar's robot just be DOA because of how wet it is?
Feclar's robot would never learn how to love.
Ever, ever.
Why is that even on the table?
Yeah, no, I agree.
I agree.
That's a good enough quote that it should be a t-shirt.
Hotshop.biz.
Anyways, they got to fix the bot.
They got to make him their friends and get him to tell them what happened.
Yeah.
I started to like the robot at this point.
I did not like the robot up until now
But having the robot is sort of the pet. Yeah, just sort of hopping around behind them. That's good. Oh
I'm totally with you by the end of this episode
I was like bring the robot onto the main cast like the robot should be part of the show from now on
Why does it get to live with Ensign Kim?
Why does it get to live with Ensen Kim? And why does it's head and arm keep falling off?
And why is Ensen Kim just extremely chill from then on?
So the robot explains that there's a war on between
Chaotica and members of the fifth dimension.
And Paris is like, what the fuck is going on, man?
There's not supposed to be aliens in this one.
People aren't supposed to die either.
There's a lot that doesn't add up.
Yeah.
So Tuvac is like really doing his best to play along,
but hard to keep a straight face
when Paris is explaining all this stuff on the fly.
Too luck does that way of kicking someone in the balls that is just repeating the thing
that Paris says.
Or whatever.
He doesn't have to try very hard to smash those nuts.
It's sort of very similar to what Harry was doing in the first scene.
It is, yeah.
But downplayed instead of played up.
Yeah.
Your knowledge of this technology is most impressive.
So the robot leads them over to a part of the Star Trek
case where these holes are.
And we see that the holes are licking shots
in the atmosphere.
They're firing photonic charges.
And those photonic charges are presumably what's killing everybody on the holodeck.
Seems pretty dangerous.
Really does.
To holo people anyway.
Right.
At what point in time were you like,
where the fuck is the doctor
and why haven't we involved him in this?
Because to me it was 15 minutes ago.
Yeah, the photonic life form aboard
would be a great diplomat to send in.
Right.
There's a lot of fucking around that has to get done before anyone on voyage
or hits on this idea.
So your way ahead of the members of the crew.
Uh-huh.
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like a bit of a war that's going on.
I think Seven does something really useful in this scene,
which is if you just aren't in to this,
like the Holiday episode in a Star Trek series
is often a Sherwood forest or a, another version of a Sherwood forest or a,
another version of a Sherwood forest or Cowboys
or whatever, like TNG did this a bunch.
If this isn't for you,
seven is your character in this
because she smashes Kim's nuts pretty hard here
about his choice of holiday play
in a way that I think kind of serves that kind of viewer that's
like, eh, this sucks. Who would, who would ever do this? Who would spend their time this
way? Right. It seems your infantile scenario now poses a security risk.
It kind of defangs that feeling for that kind of viewer and I think makes this more palatable
as an episode. Agree. I think that, uh, yeah, TNG would have done well to have, you know, riker.
Right.
Be like, really?
There's not even any sex in here.
We're pretending we're fucking Sherlock Holmes, and this is stopping everything we're doing
so that we can deal with the bad guy from your stupid fucking Sherlock Holmes thing.
Yeah.
The dissenting holiday opinion is really useful in a holiday
episode. I've heard that the record character in Picard season three is gonna
really carry that energy. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be like extremely pissed off that
Mardi Ardeus back. I hope the record character looks back on the fleet that he
summoned for help and is like really? We got one type of starship here.
That's, that's all we could get.
That's what we got.
One type.
You know, it kind of makes me look like a fucking asshole
to be the lead ship and it's not really any better
than any of the other ships behind me.
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sensors from his rocket ship, which are in the form of a telegram. Right. Yeah.
And Tuvac could wincha car out of a ditch without hard is his eyes are rolling back. He's like,
can you please not like give me the telegraph version of this like summarize
it if you can? I mean, the framing is very much suggestive of Paris being infantile and
two-vac having a giant crank because that's where the the ticker tape machine is positioned
in the frame. That's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is a message from the president
of the earth about like intercepted messages
between the queen of the spider people and chaotic about this war
with the fifth dimension.
They're talking this over when they hear a knock
in at the door and the surviving,
photonic life form guy comes in and finds them there.
And he's like asking them who they are,
they're asking him who he is.
At a certain point, he like insists to them
that all life is photonic and they're like,
no, it isn't you fucking idiot.
And he's like scanning them and he's like,
yeah, like this biochemical thing
does not read his life to my censored thingy.
So, sorry, I don't believe you.
That mirroring of perception is pretty interesting.
Yeah.
Like, they both see each other in that same flawed way.
But God, this Henry Silva guy has an awful story
about 53 of his people being
killed. Yikes. It's not looking good for them. The Holodex safeties are permanently off
for people of his type, right? Yeah. And, you know, he has to shoot this robot before
it tries to destroy him. Bad moment for that robot. Yeah. Max, his phaser out of his hand, but then it's,
it's arm falls to the floor and he makes his escape.
Still not believing that anybody that he just met
is really alive.
We cut to a McLaughlin group.
Is your want?
Where Tom Perris kind of has to explain a lot of like
backstory on what's going on in the universe of the game
to the captain. I mean this Mille Gloucfeuil group is peak silly because
they have to like take seriously the plot of the game
while trying to puzzle through what to do about the
while trying to puzzle through what to do about the photonic life forms, like trapping them there and also getting killed by their holodeck. This is a great performance by B-Dunks because he's summoning that energy that all nerdy kids have ever had explaining the thing they love to their parents, to their disinterested parents, specifically, like going on and on about this nerd shit, and doing it in a serious way in the face of people who want to shit all over this.
The destructile beam on my rocket ship can disable the death ray, but only if someone gets inside the fortress of Doom and can shut down the lightning shield. That's what she says. I would say that that is like the one thing that Shukote gets to do in this episode
is join seven in deriding the entire affair.
If it were possible to reach the strap of Paris's underwear
and yank it upward, like,
the crew would just be passing him around.
Yeah, would that be a photonic wedgie?
Yeah, he would be a context of this episode.
It would absolutely be that.
Yeah.
So the thing is in the game, they need to drop the lightning
shield and the way that is accomplished is by enlisting the help of the
queen of the spider people.
And for some reason, that role will be played by Janeway.
Mostly, I think, for the bit,
like everybody in the room agrees that it would be funniest
if Janeway plays it.
Oh, no.
It's the role of a lifetime.
Like, they look at Seven and they're like,
there's no way that she would like
throw herself into the role.
So, let's just go with Janeway.
Seven doesn't have a gear for camp. No, no.
And we aren't sure if Janeway will either, but boy, does she? Yeah. Janeway's eye muscles
really get a workout on all of the eye rolling she does in this episode before she finds
herself in the program. Yeah. Also, almost as an afterthought, the docs involvement is
floated and approved in this scene.
Which were the prior reason.
And then the next were in six Bay,
where the doc is making preparations for his big role.
BLT is in there kind of making sure he's ready.
BLT does not feel left out or left behind
by not being invited into the program
in a way, again, that feels symbolic of her detachment from Paris.
Yeah.
In any way.
It's like, I mean, I've occasionally floated the idea of, hey, do you want to
watch some Star Trek to my wife?
Like, are you curious at all what I, what I do?
No.
No.
Congratulations.
Why do you need me?
The same thing.
BLT has no interest in the Captain Proton cinematic universe.
Are you saying that this is a healthy relationship then?
They just have their interest siloed?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Okay.
It's a theory.
You know, we have to test this theory.
Okay.
We'll put a pin in that.
The doc is going to play the president of Earth
and he's ready to go.
Yeah.
He's got BLT making modifications
to his mobile emitter for some reason.
This confused me and then I was even more confused
when they radio to tell him they're ready
for him down in the holodeck and he walks down there.
Yeah.
What?
I mean, is this one of the systems
that doesn't work anymore?
While they're stuck in this cred.
Oh.
Oh, that actually, I don't know if they ever say
that explicitly, but I like that theory.
Why not?
You can only use three turlits, no site to site
for the doctor. Is it, you can only use three turlits, no sight to sight for the doctor.
Is it, you can only use three because the fourth one has been labeled bolions only.
That is ugly.
It's very ugly.
Whoever has to put that sign on the bathroom.
It's like you take all the conveniences of a modern starship away
and people start reverting to some of the bassist instincts that people have
It's so sad. Oh, that's ugly
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Way through the role and like how you behave like a mustache twirling villain and how you behave to a mustache twirling villain in a Captain proton story.
It's a lot more eye rolling.
It's like a wonder she can see where she's going given how hard her eyes are being rolled in this scene.
You can't not have this scene though.
Like you can't just have Jane way up here in the holodeck without having this coaching. Right.
Paris and Janeway spend a lot of time together this episode,
talking about everything, but maybe the subtext that is most
interesting between them. Like, the idea that this is a place
where Paris spent a ton of his time, even if it is like pseudo
academic, like the study of the way
past earth people thought about futurism or whatever, like whatever, whatever.
That there is never even a whiff of Janeway going like, you aren't even going to try to get
back into my good graces at all. Like, I fucking demoted you for being an insubordinate
mute near even.
Like, you're not gonna use your free time
to try to get that pit back.
Does that ever happen?
Like, I don't want you to ruin the end of Voyager for me,
but like, when does that even begin?
Oh, no.
I mean, there's spending so much time together, I think there was time for that moment where
she's like, you know, by the way.
Well, there was a bit about that, but then they had to edit that out because they needed
time for him to go over a rack-neazed vial of pheromones that she ordered out of the back
pages of a gentleman's magazine. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It really works.
What do you think about the way Paris signs off with her at the scene?
Where he's like, you're the Queen's hair.
Oh, that's...
You're the Queen now, dog.
Kind of the knife like that without fear
of reprisal, I think you got to take it.
But that does sort of underline how little interest he seems to have in getting back into
her good graces.
Very true.
Yeah.
Because a knife twisted most certainly is.
Yeah. We're back on the holiday next and
Keatica's hench has some bad news.
Three more of our spaceships have been destroyed.
And it only makes them want to shoot just death ray more.
Yeah.
Lanzac comes in and this is one of those problems with your your war movie or your
Bond villain or your chaotic is that like the death ray is already the most
powerful weapon, but now he's saying things like full power to the death ray and
like fire at will. And it's like you weren't firing at will at full power before.
Yeah, don't get that.
What was holding you back?
You know, no, watch your futures end.
Yeah.
Moment here.
Like this is all by way of trying to escalate the stakes in the episode,
but it just seems like it doesn't make any sense that the stakes wouldn't already be here by now.
We don't get much time to interrogate this before Queen Arachnia enters as played by Catherine
Janeway and she is a real goth chick.
Yeah, this episode breaks for goth girls and she walks in, strikes a pose and slinks up to Chaotica with her like opera mask and wild haircut.
Dr. Chaotica has that energy of a kid who's made a new friend who wants to show them all
their toys the first time they come over.
Yeah.
Here's my death ray and here's my brain laser bed. And those are my pheromones and here's my brain laser bed.
And those are my pheromones, and here's my throne.
I have super Nintendo and Genesis.
Yeah, pretty cool.
When I was dead broke, I couldn't picture this.
So here are some clothes I stole out of your garbage
and I take hits off of them whenever I need to be inspired
as a supervillain.
She's like, oh, that's not creepy at all.
Anyways, where's the button that turns off the lightning shield?
That's the thing I'm kind of curious about.
The repetition that a racneia has with wanting to drop those shields is the thing that draws
the line under how fucking stupid Dr.
Keatica is?
Because over and over again,
that's all she wants to talk about.
She has no subtlety in tip
telling up to the thing that she's
really interested in.
Yeah.
And Dr. Keatica is such a fucking
bumbling idiot that he's like,
well, you know, you're going to have
to give me something for me to want to do that.
How about marrying me?
Yeah.
And she agrees to do that.
Yeah. If you will lower the shield, then I will wed you.
And it sort of like feels true to form for like a 30s adventure cereal in a lot of ways.
Like, how big of a deal is this war? Well, not so big a deal that we can't have a wedding in a lot of ways. Like how big of a deal is this war?
Well, not so big a deal that we can't have a wedding
in the middle of it.
I mean, and it's also really the way people become intimate
for a long period of time.
Like you drop your shields, I drop mine.
Hmm.
Wow.
Heavy.
Makes me wonder why your shields have been up our entire relationship, Adam.
Yeah, I have not asked myself that question.
It's the first time I'm thinking about it.
Over with the president of Earth, the doctor has made contact with Henry Silva and makes the case for
aligning themselves with Captain Proton's
mission to destroy the death ray.
That has been killing.
We didn't get an update, but 50 something of his people have been killed by the death
ray.
It's a good number.
And the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And that means Captain Proton and the photonic entities have aligned interests, shall we say.
And you know, the president of Earth is like, yeah, man, this chaotic a guy, he really sucks
shit, but Photon can bring the heat to him.
Right.
Guess what?
The robot's working on our side now.
And Henry Silva's like, that doesn't make me feel any better.
That robot fucking sucks.
I don't even know why the scientists make them.
So, it's an alliance between the proton and the photons.
Yeah, what does that make?
I don't know.
Clean energy.
Oh, really?
I don't know. It's exciting.
Yeah, that's what the saint was about, right?
I believe it was. Well, killer exciting. Yeah, that's what the saint was about, right? I believe it was.
That is yeah.
Yeah, Elizabeth Schew.
She plays a brilliant scientist.
Even the end of pollution.
A lot of post-its up in her apartment.
Found movie.
Yeah.
Back on the rocket ship,
the doctor tells Paris that it's mission accomplished.
Yeah, this is a classic president thing, like,
celebrating a win before it's really secure. Yeah, this is a classic president thing like
celebrating a win before it's really secure. Yeah
He's in his flight suit. Really great. So heroic stolen valor
Yeah, yeah, so we get a great like push at it over to
chaotic as war room and they're showing off some of the
jewelry to a rancnia. This is chaotic as wedding ring.
She keeps bringing up the lightning shield, and you know, why don't we go lower it at any
point, lowering the lightning shield would be great.
Just really want my minions to worship you, your highness, et cetera, et cetera.
I mean, if you want a lot of wedding gifts,
you got to invite a lot of guests.
Yeah.
Them's the rules.
Chaotica's like, yeah, I was really thinking
about something smaller, you know?
Something more befitting of two people lowering their shields
way we're doing.
While they're talking about this,
the proton spaceship is incoming
and Chaotica starts licking shots at it.
And the shields are still up and the
weapons are hot.
Yeah.
Objection noted, we'll do this without
Chaotica.
Do it.
Objection noted, we'll do this without
Chaotica.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Chaotica is distracted enough by the arrival
of the rocket ship to kind of miss
a Rackney as double-cross, right?
Yeah.
His back is turned, but then when he turns back towards her,
it's like a stick up.
Yeah.
The one thing I wondered about is like,
she knocks out one of the henchmen
with like a incredibly quick karate chop
to the back of the neck.
Is that like an in-game thing that works because of the mechanics of the video game? Or is that like...
Oh, that's fun.
Does Janeway really have that kind of chop?
Could Tuvac have neck pinched Dr. Keatica and would it have worked?
Yeah. Yeah, ooh, interesting. Because like a lot of video games like your your melee attack is an instant kill
But it's very high risk because you have to get so close to the bad guy to do it. Yeah, so maybe this is one of those games
She just got lucky because his back was turned. I'm stuck in that God of War game. I can't kill Thor
I can't kill him. I spent an hour trying to kill Thor
Couple of minutes ago. I just can't do it. I think I might be stuck.
Are you like really far into the game or not that far into the game? Not that far.
I think I'm single digit percentage. I think maybe I'm just not good at this game.
I think it's time to take the level of difficulty down. I did that. There's no shame in that.
Honestly, I never even thought to do that. Like, I did not see that as a possibility.
Wow. Turn down the difficulty. Yeah. Shit.
The opposite would be have a heavy duty jazz gummy before playing and see how much worse
you do. And just a Brad word, boiler, that thing all night.
Do it again. Hit me!
You've come to your senses the next day and you'd have just incredible muscle memory for
all the like button combos. I don't know, I'm still a little bit of a
masher. I think that might be why I'm not so good at this game. You need some moves.
That game really rewards a memorization of combos in a way that I'm terrible at and
always have been. I think this is what I'm rubbing up against. It's the, I don't play it enough,
at enough days in a row for me to have those things locked in. So I'm like relearning every time
I play it. Yeah. Yeah. you don't have 11 year old privilege.
I don't.
Sure don't.
Chaotica is fucking ripshit when he realizes that he's been betrayed.
He calls Janeway an impetuous harlot.
Damn.
Pretty searing indictment.
Yeah.
But then again, she was like gonna marry him.
So, you know, kind of accurate, right?
I mean, maybe that's his thing. Hitchuas Harlitz.
Yeah. When you've got a type, you've got a type.
Yeah. Yeah, don't fight it.
They try and shoot her and she laughs this off because
holidayx safeties are still on. But the confinement rings can still confine.
Yeah. I mean, this is a call back to something Paris told her in the corridor.
It's like, you're not going to get killed here, but you can get trapped here.
Yeah.
And so she is.
The confinement rings seem pretty scary.
You know what?
You could argue that a wedding band is a form of a confinement ring.
Yeah.
So there are actually many of those up in this layer.
I've often found that I get good results if I put
a confinement ring down around the base of my penis.
Oh yeah, until you ask a nurse to cut it off with an angle grinder. Yeah.
Hi, homona has made a terrible mistake.
My dick is full of blood.
So this puts the danger back in Captain Proton's court because the death
ray is fully active and powered up and they're
firing at will and the lightning shield is still up.
So these bangers are hitting not only Captain Proton's spaceship, but also the Voyager itself
is getting pulled deeper into subspace.
And when we come back from commercial, there's like smoke in the air
and the robot is walking around all willy-nilly
on the bridge of the rocket ship.
And can'tica is really thrilled at how his little conflict
is going so much so that he has taken Janeway
out of the confinement rings and just shackled her to a wall instead.
Yeah, this looks better.
Yeah, but it enables her to reach into her sleeve and pull out the pheromones that she secrete
it in there before.
And when she opens it, Chaotica and Lawnsack trade places.
Lawnsack is about to start firing the death ray
and like cheese smell, graphics go up his nose
and he floats across the room to her
and proclaims his devotion.
This always happens to the henchmen, right?
The henchmen falls for the supervillains lady
and just gets used.
I don't blame him.
Yeah.
She knocks him out, gets his gun, takes out the other two henchmen.
Chaotic is getting really charged up by this.
He's really excited to be at gun point.
And smelling all these pheromones, right?
Yeah.
Don't forget about those.
This room is starting to have a dangerous concentration
of pheromones in the atmosphere.
Yeah. He gets out his little room air sensor.
Oh, yeah.
Let's check in about that.
How's it going?
Up to 800 is what was in the studio.
That's a little bit better than it was the other day.
Yeah, better than the 1200 it was before.
I'm going to take your suggestion for action and get a plant in here. Yeah.
Good to good idea. Yeah. That'll help. It might break up the overwhelming
baysheness of the room. Oh, I mean, bays would be too much color. This is this is a gray box.
Impressively gray. Yeah. So she gets the shield down and proton fires his distructo beam, which is remarkably non-destructive.
Felt the same way.
For what it's called.
Yeah.
It shocks Chaotica.
He's like touching his death ray and it shocks him.
Kill zoom and Chaotica eliminated the photonic entities like, I guess release them from the sandbar or something.
I don't know if I totally followed like how this got them out of being stuck.
I mean, in order to give us more detail, you'd have to give more dialogue to Robert Beltran,
and this is something that the show was just unwilling to do.
Like they cut away as he's trying to explain it.
Yeah.
It's actually quite interesting, the way that, and then we're back in the holodeck.
You hear him off camera going, hey, wait!
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the scene that ends the episode is on the holodeck where Paris, Kim and the
Doc are together with Janeway, and they're like standing over what they think is chaotic as dead body, but it's not.
He's still alive.
And he's still in love with Queen Arachnia.
Yeah.
He says like this thing about like you haven't seen the last of chaotic.
But then like, how is that true if he's dead?
Like we had the scene earlier where Paris was like, I'm never firing this program up again,
I'm sick and tired of this stupid captain proton bullshit.
And I was like, if that is true, like death ray, chaotic, like you all have your ray guns.
Yeah, light them up.
Yeah.
Light them up and then throw them off the cliff.
Because at this point, what's the difference?
And then do that squatting thing
where you squat over his dead body over and over again.
Yeah, yeah.
So they go over to the round TV
and watch the end card come up.
And then the question mark with Chaotica's
diabolical laughter.
Yeah.
And everybody rolls their eyes to theme.
Did you like the episode, Ben?
You know, I really used to get along with Post-Rex time.
But I don't like bullets, I don't like bread,
and I don't like you.
You're not this too.
Boy, I thought this was some dumb fun.
It is not smart fun, but it is good dumb fun.
And the implications of Captain Pro Time getting fully explored was not
something I had in my season five bingo card. So I liked it a lot. Ultimately, I had a great time
watching it. Yeah, I got to say consistent with my feelings about seven earlier, like perfect holiday episode execution.
Yeah.
Normally really dumb, bad.
But in this example, I thought they did a great job with it.
Yeah, I think the comedy of it works.
Like they set up and pay off jokes that are well done.
Yeah.
Yeah, I liked it.
Good job.
Good job indeed.
Well, do you want to see if we have any interesting black and white priority on messages?
Oh, geez.
There's a whole separate section for some of them, Ben.
It just makes me very sad to think about.
Oh, but that separate section is for the promotional messages.
Yeah.
There we go.
Priority one message from Starfleet
coming in on Secured Channel.
I need a supplement on that.
supplement on that?
supplement.
supplement.
Yes, extra.
But the interest alone could be enough
to buy this ship.
Our first priority one message is of a promotional nature.
It goes like this.
The debatched sloth is a newly launched greeting card store.
All illustrations are made in MS Paint or its Mac equivalent and feature Miriam Egregious
puns.
In particular, FODs may want to check out the debatchedsloth.com slash shop slash trek to learn what con and Obama
have in common and what makes a board put on a tie.
I looked at some of these cards at them.
They are really fun.
There's a wheat and terrier based card in here.
Whoa, what?
Yeah.
I'm going over there right now.
I need to buy that one before someone else does.
Well, I think that they probably have multiple copies of each card.
I'm seeing sold out cards here, Ben.
Yeah, but, you know, probably...
We're talking about a friend of DeSoto here. I bet if you sent an email,
they would do right by you.
Oh, I like the Wheat and Terrier card. That's fun.
Fisherman's Wharf.
Yeah. That's fun. That's fun too. Yes, we can.
I love all these cards. I need better, less generic greeting cards in my life, so I fully support
the debatched sloth. The call to action here is bring your scarves to thedebouchedsloth.com before big ride shuts it all down.
And for our listeners in the UK,
that's thedebouchedsloth.com.
They pronounce it differently.
That's fun.
Yeah.
I like knowing that.
Pretty great.
Pretty great work by Katie Aryrathune on this.
Yeah, I love all of these cards so much.
Yeah, I'm gonna be making a purchase.
As soon as we finish the program today, Ben our second priority one message is from David
and Nashville, it is to Ben and Adam. That message goes like this, hey B and A, I'm the guy,
from the double dumbass virtual meet and greet,
who confess to listening to y'all at 1.5 speed.
Well, I've finally caught up on the show
at the beginning of Voyager Season 5
and now pledged to listen to you at 1x.
Wow, we'll probably take some time.
To stop thinking you're way more drunk
than you actually are, for everything and happy holidays
Wow thanks David and Nashville. Hey, you don't have to listen to the show one next week. You're off the hook
I disagree David. I
strongly
believe
You need Strongly believe you need to listen at one X speed only Adam our final priority one message is from Aaron who bought this in January of 2022 and it is too
Peter.
It goes like this.
Happy birthday!
I love that baller, get it done no matter what Janeway is your favorite captain.
Holy shit, she's so fucking good.
I promise we will have as much fun together as Kate Mulgrew did, fucking destroying this
episode.
Hmm, and it will continue to make sure you have coffee before you have
to make decisions. I love you so much.
Yeah, I mean, Erin may be more effusive than we were about the great Kate Moguru in this
episode. She does fucking destroy this episode.
She really does. This is a very, very fun Kate will grow episode in a whole bunch of ways.
Yeah. And this seems like it's sort of a valentine's message that's very closely
timed to actual valentines day. So a nice work, Aaron, getting out ahead of a P1
purchase. If you'd like to get out ahead of a P1 purchase, head to maximumfun.org-
slash jumbo-tron and set yours up today. P1 purchase, head to MaximumFun.org slash Jumbo Tron,
and set yours up today.
Go ahead and get boi out.
Hey Ben.
What's that Adam?
Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Incredible.
Drunk Shimoda!
I think I might give it to Harry
just because he's totally in it for the sex
at the beginning of this episode.
Like, no mystery about it.
He's sort of mill housing,
but he's also sort of George Costanzaing.
He's a sexual mill house, isn't he?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Which I guess is what George Costanza is.
Very true.
So yeah, I think he's gonna be my drunk
from motor today.
How about you?
The take that Dr. Keatica has
when he goes down for the count, touching the death ray, or whatever.
That's the bigness of performance that I was kind of expecting throughout, that I'm
glad we didn't get until that moment.
That is the amiest, cheesiest, campiest performance in three seconds there.
It was great.
Everything about this episode leads to that moment.
I liked it a lot.
And that's why I think it works.
Good moment, Adam.
But will we have a good moment when we watch the next episode?
For that, I'm turning to
goch.bizslashgame.
I'll rekeep the game of buttholes.
A little of a caretaker.
And let me just quickly tell you about season five episode
13, Gravity.
When Tuvac Paris and the doctor's shuttle crashes
on a barren planet, they befriend a female alien
who had also crashed their years earlier.
Hmm. Yeah. It's an episode about friendship. a female alien who had also crashed their years earlier.
It's an episode about friendship. It sounds like currently our runabout is on square 30,
bit ahead we have a Delta flyer square,
which could rocket us up to a measure of a man square
on the second to last row.
I think we can also hit a Nielix's galley square.
So I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bone.
You're required to learn as you play, roll.
We'll see what happens.
Boy, I rolled a five at a time.
To La!
Did I win?
Harvey.
And that put us right in between those two fun squares
and landed us on our regular old square.
I love how you put it.
So it's a regular old episode next week.
Yeah.
We're on quite a streak.
Yeah.
A streak did I like?
A streak of missing.
Yeah. But we're getting pretty close to that brown zone square. Yeah, streak that I like a streak of missing. Yeah
But we're getting pretty close to that bronzone square so that could be coming up sometime soon. Wow
In a while starting to in-chip on it. Oh, I'm looking forward to next week I hope you are too even though she'd be have some misgivings about this whole thing. Oh
In spite of what you may think,
I am very invested in this thing that we do.
Oh, good.
And the way that we do it.
And in my co-host in particular,
and in all of the friends of DeSoto out there
who make the show possible.
Oh yeah, they've invested in us
over at MaximumFund.org slash join.
We're getting real, real close
to the beginning of the max fund drive.
So get your wallets ready. Yeah. You just open up your purse or wallet right now and you hold it
open until the drive begins. Like the mega tiring, but that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Say okay, you can go to
maximumfund.org slash join
To help support the show at any time including the max fund right?
That would be great. We got to thank Wendy pretty the producer of this program. We got to thank
Adam Agusia who makes our original theme music
And occasionally has us on his podcast the Adam Agusia podcast
Got to thank Bill Tilly the card daddy daddy who runs the greatest trick social media accounts, lots of great social media things to get involved with
all over the internet.
Also on the internet, Adam, podchap.biz.
Podchap.biz.
Has now outlasted our previous podchaps by almost double.
No one's pulled the plug yet. Yeah, over 10 times as many things in it, which is really exciting.
Yeah, more gray shirts added by the episode it seems.
But other things too.
So, you know, get your apparel basics, but also get the, you know, sex candles and shit.
I don't know. Right. Yeah, you know that's coming.
Yeah. Sex candle tomorrow's Valentine's Day. Yeah. Maybe we'll have sex candles in the store in time for that.
Well, that would be tremendous. Yeah. But that will be back at you next week. We are then a great episode of Star Trek,
next week, we are then a great episode of Star Trek, Voyager, and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager,
where Adam has watched the episode,
but I just watched Hank Girl again.
Hmm, again?
Again.
I haven't seen it the first time.
I haven't seen it the first time.
I just watched Hank Girl.
Yeah, fine.
Ben, I have a rule never to end a podcast angry.
I love you, pal. I love you too, buddy.
I don't want you to think I'm mad at you.
I would never think that.
Okay, good. You'll be caught on the youth and death and death They make it so, they make it so
You'll be caught, caught, caught, caught
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