The Greatest Generation - Hair Brave (VOY S3E8)

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

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Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. Big episode today. One of the biggest. I read that this is the final appearance of the bun

on Captain Janeway, aside from flashbacks. I didn't know that. Yeah. RSVP Bun. That's why it's a big episode. It's always scary to do a hairstyle change, right? Absolutely. At least it is for me.

Like, I stuck with the butt cut probably three years longer than most people because I was afraid. I was afraid to get a new haircut and actors are made to do this all the time with their characters. If their show goes for a length of time. I've been watching that show, The Americans. Oh yeah. Starring an actor who is known for a wild hairstyle change

from a previous show, right? That was what facility was all about. Oh yeah, but the male lead in that, like has more hairstyle changes than any male character in a TV show. I can think of like every, because he's like a spy, right? So he's like impersonating people

and like he's got like different identities and different personas. And sometimes it flashes back to what he looks like when's got like different identities and different personas and Sometimes it flashes back to what he looked like when he was like in his 20s and Soviet Russia That's such a crutch though. Don't you wish you had that crutch? Like it's it's a disguise. That's why I buzzed my hair Yeah, yeah, I've never had hair bravery. I wish I was braver with hair I It a buddy at college was so was so hair braved that one time, just for fun,

he got a big razor and shaved male pattern baldness onto his head. That's amazing. Just wanted to see how it would be. I want to see how it would be, but I never want to go through with seeing how it is. What's the most dramatic hair change you've ever done? Going from what to what? I buzzed my hair at some point when I was...

We had like crazy hair day at school and elementary school and I convinced my parents to let me go for a buzz cut when I was in middle school. But I looked like a person with exegrable political belief when I had a buzz cut. So I never did it again. I never really got out of this general medium, boy's length haircut. Like until the pandemic, the pandemic was like the forced

hair bravery that I craved. So I grew it down to my neck basically for the first time. And that was a second. You had like the Darth Vader helmet of hair for a minute. I did. Yeah, tying it back and everything. And now I'm back up to where I used to have it. But that would have been a great excuse to cut it even further back, like to put it.

You had a lustrous mane. It looked beautiful, Adam. You know what I do? I don't have hair bravery and I have a great amount of skull fear. I don't know what's under there. Yeah. I don't know if I want to know what's under there. I certainly do not.

You know who has skull bravery, Adam, is Robert Piccardo, a proud bald man on Star Trek Voyager. One of the greats. That maybe we could read his entry in the Star Trek Voyager showbible. You know, the showbible always gives me strength when I'm feeling a little down or low or weak. Yeah, yeah. You got to turn to the good book at a time like this.

It's good to see you all in church. It's turn to the good book at a time like this. It's good to see you all in church. It's cool to the Bible. That's the way God wants it. I don't know why, dude. All these questions? It's a little blind thing too much to ask? Whenever you read the show Bible, I have my rod and my staff. Whenever you read the show Bible, I have my rod and my staff. As I walk through the valley of Star Trek Voyager Season 3, yeah. Let's fill it up your cup, Adam, and turn to page 13 here.

He is listed in the show Bible as Doc Zimmerman. Doc is not really a person, but a holographic figure, an emergency medical program devised by Starfleet. When the ship's doctor is unavailable or needs added assistance, one can call on the holographic physician. The holodocter appears as a human male and has been programmed with the most up-to-date medical knowledge. He is capable of treating any disease or injury.

Doc has awareness that he is a hologram and is fully aware of his limitations. He had little personality when we first met him except for some testiness and arrogance. Subsequently, he may undergo some tinkering with this program in order to warm him up a bit, although not always with the desired results. One of his arcs is to get the crew to warm him up a bit, although not always with the desired results. One of his arcs is to get the crew to take him seriously and treat him with the respect he or she deserves. Eventually Cass will pair with him to become a medical student. Her intellectual abilities are equal to the task and Janeway realizes that they may need

a medically trained person who can operate somewhere beside Six Bay. The pairing of Cass and Zimmerman makes for an unusual and strangely warm-hearted relationship. Pretty much any relationship that Cass and could be described in that way. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that Doc Holliday is the only character who doesn't want to shove her into a broom closet, right? Yeah. She's known for standing up in those.

So end of the reading, Adam. Wow, a piece of the show onto you, Ben. And also onto you. Interesting, because the doc is, we have obviously already watched this episode, and the doc doesn't play a huge role in this app, but the big twist at the end does involve the doc, spoiler alert, so.

Yeah, he kind of gets doc napped. He does. At the very end, it's big fun. It's big fun and a momentous idea because I think it's the first time he's outside of the holodeck or six bay in a non like alternate timeline situation, right? Right.

Yeah. Yeah. It makes me wonder what other strange circumstances the crew of the Voyager will find themselves in. I mean, early on in this episode, we're, we're really sending four down to this planet. But uh, that fifth one is a surprise. Let's see how we get there, though, Ben, as we discuss Star Trek Voyager season three episode eight, Futures and... Breaver, of course.

Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. And episode that begins in flashback. It's 1967. It's the Groovy hippie earth time. The Groovy hippie in question is trying to use some sticks to bang on some pots and pans, playing along with the cool tunes of the radio. To Star Trek like hippies? Because all of their depictions are cartoonish and bad. Yeah, he definitely falls into a bit of a theme that we've seen over the years and it's kind of surprising, right? Like Star Trek being a show that was conceived of by a bunch of pinkos.

Yeah, why the antipathy for the members of the hippie community? I mean, maybe they just feel emboldened to make fun of themselves. Mm-hmm. And I can get with that. I mean, they were also like older than boomers, right? Like, like, Rod and Barry was like silent generation, I want to say. Oh, yeah. So I feel like there was just like maybe some generational antipathy for the hippies. Yeah. I did not recognize Ed Begley Jr. here at all. Like until much later in the episode, you put together who that was.

But I was like, wow, great casting on this burnout. How they get him. Everything about this cold open read to me as an X-Files cold open. You know, I feel like we've gotten this version of cold open on 40 different X-Files episodes. Absolutely. There's so much of the writing and pacing of this episode

that feels like that X-Files like movie. Like the like era of late 90s political thriller slash like Independence Day style giant disaster movie, like there's a lot of that kind of energy in this in this episode. I really liked the X-Files movie but I feel like no one really saw it. Did you like it? I liked both X-Files movies a lot. Oh shit, there were two. There were two X-Files movies a lot. Oh shit, there were two. There were two X-Files. I'm thinking of Fight the Future.

Fight the future? The first one that opens with that weird vending machine filled with explosives. Yeah, and then several years later they released another one that's just about Mulder and Scully being married and living like a very quiet life in like a rural house somewhere. X-Files used to be my very favorite show.

And it's crazy that I was such a big fan and then I got off that bus so fast that I didn't even remember the existence of that second movie. It got almost no promotion. Like I walked up to a movie theater and I saw X-Files movie. Is this just like a re, you know, they get like a print of Fight the Future and I was like, no,

it's a new movie. And the guy at the ticket counter was like, it's actually PG-13. So, I mean, you want to see the Garfield movie instead? This came out recently enough that I feel like I remember buying tickets to Kill Bill for like a couple of like 12 year old kids or 13 year old kids and then regretting it when I watched Kill Bill I was like this is pretty actually pretty upsetting violence. That sounds pretty edgy for you to do, man. And I vouched for them too, on the way in. I happened to get a bucket of popcorn, and they were trying to get their tickets ripped,

and the clerk was giving them a hard time. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm their uncle. They're with me. Did you try to sit next to them at the movie? And then after the movie's over, you just tried to hang out to like just as friends How do you do fellow kids? What? Yeah, it's like hey, so what are you guys up to now? You want to go hang out in the park?

So yeah, this is the UFO crash open of an ex-files episode and open of an ex-files episode and Ed Begley Jr. in hippie hair and mustache up on a ridge looking down at it and then we're into the opening theme music. You know Ed Begley Jr. has a lot of photographs of himself in this sort of hippie burlesque like he could have brought like one of a thousand photographs into makeup. For them, this is what we're trying to nail. Okay, got it. When we come back from theme, Janeway is practicing her serve in her office with a very advanced techno racket. The racket almost distracts you from how strange this ball is.

I can't believe how tennis balls look in the 24th century. Yeah, does it have like little suction cups on it or something That's what it looks like to me. It looks like the covid cell Looks fun scary Step six feet back. Yeah She straight up smashes this tennis ball into Tuvac as he walks in. He catches it in the nuts. Sorry, Tuvac. And it takes him down.

Simple physics captain. He's there to just take a meeting like he's done a thousand times. A pretty chill update meeting segues right into red alert because there is a space butthole ahead. And what's weird about this space butthole is that it's immediately found to be artificially created. I don't know who's creating it, but it's creating distortions. The distortion in the space time continuum. And then something's coming out and it's a little ship.

It's just a little guy. It is not Kelsey Grammar on this ship. It can't always be Kelsey Grammar, you guys. Yeah, come on. And this thing, like, goes weapons hot right away. The Voyager is like steady, steady, steady, scans, scans, scans, and then it starts taking shots. And they're like, wait a second, this thing has a federation ship and it's shooting at us.

Like, we've been waiting for somebody to open a space buttonhole up and rescue us and this guy comes through with a Federation signature and he starts licking shots and he really packs a wallop too. And the ship's only six meters big and that's even more of a wallop than you'd expect. What Harry Kim describes is really scary. He's like basically saying that the ship is coming apart on a molecular level. You don't like that. No.

And they figure it like, Chico de suggests this, right? The deflector dish to disperse the pattern, and that, you know, causes the bangers to slow down for a second. If you're looking at the Haines manual for a Federation Starship, that's like one of the chapters there. Like when shit gets really bad, you go to the main deflector dish as a weapon. Mm-hmm. Mr. Tufach. Yeah.

Fire. So the dish idea works. It gets them a little bit of relief, at least enough relief to give them some time to take a FaceTime call from the captain of this thing. And on the screen is Captain Braxton, who identifies himself as the captain of a federation time ship. And he's like, I don't have a lot of time to tell you what I'm doing here. But the bullet points are, your ship is the cause of the destruction of earth solar system I need to destroy you you just got to lay back and let me do this. Sorry any kills the call

There's this moment between Janeway and Shakote that is insane to me because Janeway is like I'm gonna need more evidence for this and Shakote Right on the heels of her saying that is like, but what gonna need more evidence for this. And Chico-te, right on the heels of her saying that, it's like, but what if these tell in the truth? Shut the fuck up, Chico-te. I won't sacrifice this shit from crew based on a 10-second conversation. There's coffee in that proof. Janeway didn't want to heave to and be boarded a couple episodes ago.

You think she's just gonna allow her ship to be destroyed by this guy? I think Chico-te, we've established now trying everything he can think of to not become captain of this ship. Yeah, he's looking for way out. He's doing the math. If the ship is destroyed with all hands, like that is pretty definitive. I won't have to do that. So like two boxes simultaneously knocking each other out in the ring. Both of these ships shoot at each other, cripple each other, and then get pulled into this time-rift.

Yeah. They come out the other side, like, chaotic on the floor, right? Everybody's passed out. Yeah. The thing about time-butt holes is, like, you kind of idealize them for so long until you finally experience it. And then you're like, yeah, I mean, that was cool, but like, probably shouldn't do this all the time. Yeah. It's just like, that's a lot of prep. You know, and with that prep comes pressure.

Yeah. It's like, it's like new year's eve parties have to be the most amazing. And like, that's kind of like sets them up for failure in a way. And oftentimes that kind of pressure can lead to great disappointment. Yeah. And you know, unique discomfort for one of the parties the next day. Which is what happens to voyage. They get a sense of the fact that they're in Earth orbit,

but the year is 1996. You probably recognized the radio station stuff playing here in 1996. You probably recognized the radio station stuff playing here in 1996. You're either rad or you're rad. I'm pretty sure I heard machine bolt in Elfarto doing the morning drive. What's confusing is the time ship is nowhere to be found. Yeah. I mean, it's not an orbit anyway. It looks like it crashed somewhere in LA, so Janeway's like, might as well send a dust buster club down there to find this thing. Yeah.

With me as its leader, and so it's her to co-ta two-vac in Paris, heading down to LA. This scene of LA been, is like what your grandparents think LA is without ever having been there. It is every kind of LA person in one block. Yeah, they beam down to like Venice basically. And there's a bit about like, oh, we could have left our Starfleet uniforms on. Nobody would have noticed.

We got to break down the costume choices for all four of our characters here. We got Ticote dressed like a detective on Miami Vice. A theme for my heroes. We've got Janeway dressed as a small town realtor. I will sell this house today. Paris, I don't even know what he's dressed like. He looks like a guy who's on his way to a jam band concert. Am I making any sense here?

He's dressed the same way that like a unspeaking role for like a criminal gang that's operating off of Santa Monica Pier on a shipping trawler. Yeah, it would be dressed in Baywatch. Two Vox like the only one who looks like he belongs in LA in 1996. Come on, take a picture. And risk, dermal dysplasia. No, thank you. He's got kind of like an olive drab, almost fatigue-like thing, but then he's got like a

duster underneath the outer jacket of that. That's purple. Yeah. He looks great. He does. And then like a head wrap to cover the ears. It's a little tragic for the camera department here that things are so wild visually,

that unless you're really paying attention to it, you don't notice the one minute tracking shot that occurs here, that is like super complex with a ton of dialogue and a ton of interactions with extras. Extras crossing in front of the camera and in front of the characters, in front of the characters, like barging between characters. It's really fun.

Yeah, yeah. And like almost never in Star Trek, even in Star Trek 4, do we get this many extras in a shot? It's nuts. That's so much. It's really remarkable. And it's great, like they're talking about how we're going to find this subspace transmitter. They're kind of tripping off of how weird everything is and enjoying the feeling of being

on Earth in a weird time period. It's weird how like, two Vox got to wear the headband of a Vulcan on past Earth. But Chicoote can wear his face tattoo openly. And at the same time, be super judgy about other people's appearance. There wasn't some weird shit about that, right? Like looking at people's get-ups and being like, some strange species alive here. I think sometimes Chicoote is a little bit of a catch-all for the writer's voice because as a character I think there's less detail to him and his feelings about things.

Yeah. He's a little unknowable outside of his spirituality. That's sort of the tragedy of the character because like it seems like they spent a lot of time and effort on trying to get to know him through that fraudulent consultant. And it's a shame because he like he does he does sort of turn into a cipher some of the time. It's got to feel so good to be an actor on a show that primarily does sound stage stuff to get some location work like this where you get to be outside. And that warm L.A. Sun, like Paris is the one like giving voice to that right.

He's like, let me, you know, suns out, guns out like this. He can't wait to take up his shirt. B-Dunk's looking pretty jacked here too. You think about the fact that he just came off directing his first episode, but he was also making sure to hit the gym because he knew this was coming up. This really does feel like an episode of Baywatch to watch it.

And I think that's probably because the episodes of Baywatch that we've watched for the hit bonus podcast, the Santa Monica Mountains. Do it, do it, do it. The bikinis are definitely cut the same. Yeah. Yeah. She does have your legs. So we cut away from the Venice Beach

after Captain Janeway and TuVoc find a homeless guy that is the locus of subspace technology, which shouldn't exist on Earth in this time period. And we cut up to the Griffith Observatory, which is, you know, we get a panning shot to establish the observatory and then a long pan through a very nerdy office with lots of like monster movie posters and action figures and, you know, photos of the moon landing and stuff.

And this is the setty office that the Sarah Silverman character works in. What a great place to work. If that's your gig, imagine like working at the Griffith Park Observatory, like one of the most spectacular vistas in Los Angeles. What a view of downtown Los Angeles in an unlit windowless room in the Fox Moldor office. Like this is another another quality of this episode that reads so much like X files. Yeah, it really does.

So she gets the classic sci-fi movie settyty signal of, we've picked something up from outer space. She punches it up on the computer, and she gets like orbital information for where the source of this is coming from. Doesn't seem that far away. Yeah. Like, you don't have to know how this tech works to get visually what's happening here.

No, it's pretty clear. So we cut to Ed Begley Jr. in his high rise office, who's got some real Chris Brenner vibes. I'm Chris Brenner. Brenner information systems. You know, interface operations, net access, channel 90. Chris Brenner. operations net access channel 90. That Chris Brenner.

And he does not seem like he will be voted anyone's best boss they've ever had. Based on his behavior toward his employees. Yeah, he's having a high level meeting with the head of a computer chip manufacturer and really stomping this guy's nuts over the quality of a computer chip manufacturer and really stomping this guys. And that's over the quality of the computer chips that are being delivered. He is really pissed off and that is just not a great time for his personal assistant to break into the meeting with a phone call from an urgent source. That source being Sarah Silverman's character who's like, hey, Ed Bagley?

You know that gamma surge you've been telling me to search for? Well listen to this He's like what the hell is this and she says well you might not get it, but your kids are gonna think it's really great This is a really fun bit of business for Ed Bagley Jr. who, on the phone, to Sarah Silverman's characters, like, cool. Great. Don't tell anyone because it's probably nothing. And then as soon as the phone calls over, turns totally arch. And like, talks to his henchmenmen like, you may have to kill a girl. So get ready.

I have never hung up the phone and then like scowled and walked across the room. And like the way he like, it's like, man, if you're acting like that when you get off a phone call that you've just asked somebody to lie. Yeah. You know you're the bad guy. Yeah. He reveals a tattoo on the inside of

his left forearm that I couldn't help but cop. Yeah. I don't know what it means exactly at this point in time, but the camera sure loves it. In addition to having formerly been a hippie, he was also like a black ops special forces soldier or something. Right. now living the lavish lifestyle of an executive in an eyes. I'm sure Just like all of our best and brightest This is a fun bit of character building for rain robinson serious overman's character because right after getting off the phone After being told to just leave it. Yeah. Leave it. No, rain, no.

She's like, I'm gonna send the message anyway. Like I'm gonna start reaching out to folks. And the first message she sends is to the source. She sends the steady greeting. Greetings from the people of earth. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Shall I respond, sir? Absolutely not.

And this pops up on the view screen up on Voyager that that Ensign Kim has been left in charge of and we get the like welcome to earth illustration of of naked people. It's just a clip of Will Smith punching an ID4 alien over and over again. I thought it was interesting that BLT was on the bridge at Kim's station, but Kim was left in command. Yeah, it's sort of a volleyball in Jim class kind of situation where like someone gets a serve and then

side out and rotate and when when Kim gets the big chair, BLT gets to serve. Yeah, she seems cool with the fact that somebody who is junior, her junior as an officer, is giving her commands. Yeah, I wonder if that's gonna come around to bite them. What is most certainly biting them in this scene is that their transporters don't work, and they've got four people on past earth running around and kind of a difficult way to ever bring them back if they get into an emergency situation. Yeah, the time butthole has had some negative effects on their systems that are going to take a couple of days to get fixed.

So that first beam down worked just fine, but anything after that is going to be at a high cost, and they would have to go in super close and potentially reveal the voyage or to the planet. You're not going to feel normal after a time buttole experience for a little bit, and that's fine. That's totally normal. There is some aftercare that I would highly recommend. Down on earth this information is relayed to Janeway, Chico de, TuVoc, and Paris who are like being super not chill about the fact that they're tailing this homeless guy. And also not the least bit nervous about how difficult it would be to retrieve them if something went wrong. Like I thought this would have been a great opportunity for there to feel some kind of

fear about being stranded on what is really an alien planet to them with myrhym dangers. Like there's an observance of their lack of transport or tech here, but I really think you could have ratcheted up the tension for it. Yeah, I agree. So they decided to split up a classic horror movie mistake. And they immediately start having sex a classic horror movie mistake. And immediately start having sex. Yeah.

Another horror film mistake. The killer is definitely gonna get you Jane Wanger co-tay. If you're sneaking off into the bushes to knock boots, classic. Do what you have to do. Two-vac and Paris are not gonna be able to beam up to Griffith Park because of this transporter issue.

So she said by any means, an area necessary find your way up there. Yeah, this is real license to kill stuff. It is. And Janeway and Tuvac, like continue to tail the homeless guy who is taping up handmade cardboard signs that don't say flip homes will train and then just a telephone number.

We buy houses. They say the end is near, the end of the world is coming, the end of the future, and et cetera. Can I ask you a question about your neighborhood without you giving away exactly where you live? In my neighborhood, there are so many lost bird signs. Do you have a many lost bird signs. Do you have a little lost bird signs in your neighborhood? Like, lost cockatiel.

No, I have seen lost bird signs in Los Angeles, but I don't see lots of them. It's like almost all lost Chihuahua signs in my neighborhood. I wonder if you could dane which neighborhoods we live in based on the lost animals from there, because there's a fair amount of lost Chihuahua action in my neighborhood as most LA neighborhoods would have, but so many birds. Yeah.

Our friend Jesse Thorne and his wife Teresa, when we first moved here, had to like explain to me that when you see a Chihuahua walking around on the street, it's usually not lost, but just a Chihuahua that's allowed to do that. Not all Chihuahua's who wander are lost. Like so much of my time early in LA, we spent like trying to convince a Chihuahua to come over and hang out with me while I like look for a tag or like call somebody or find its owner. It's like a total waste of time, a hundred times out of a hundred. One of my myriam fears about having a puppy right now is her somehow getting loose.

And just going home with the first person she finds because she's that kind of dog. Like, she's going to find her Ben somewhere and then that's going gonna be it. Yeah, that'll be that. Yeah. We haven't talked about Chico Te's hair yet. I think we should highlight his Caesar cut. He's really clue-need his hair up for this episode in a way that just gave me the warm in 90s fuzzies. I mean, this was the haircut that I wanted to have, but was too fearful to get at the time.

Like, this was it? I don't even, I don't think my hair does Caesar. I think my hair, like at that length, just doesn't lie like that, but like, God, this was the men's haircut to have in 1996. Yeah, I mean, render unto Caesar the things that are gelled forward, I guess. I was afraid of the gel aspect of it, because everyone I knew in high school who had Caesar

cuts, it was also very wet. Mm-hmm, yeah. It's hard to find a gel that doesn't make you look drippy. Yeah. That's a paradox, my dear. So they confront this homeless guy and it turns out he is the captain of the time ship. Yeah, and he's been on Earth for 30 years. This is a great revelation about the dangers of time buttolls

and what happened to them after they slip through, right? Like, just because you go through at the same time doesn't mean you end up in the same place. This is like exactly what happened to Gabrielle and Michael Burnham. Yeah. And this blew my mind, because I was like, I had him pegged as having been the hippie

because in that early shot, I did not make at Beggley, Jr. as the hippie. So I was like, oh, the hippie found the time ship or something. No, this isn't the hippie that found the time ship. This is the captain of the time ship. The hippie is Beggley Jr. Who stole the time ship from him. This episode has some of the great makeup

that we've seen in all of Star Trek Voyager, I think. Both in the hippie and in the homeless man. Really great stuff. It's that trope, like, you know, 12 monkeys uses this a little bit, like the time traveler treated as a madman, but is actually telling the truth. But also is like, he's like been isolated and cut off from society long enough.

That he is like authentically fucked up up and rambly and ranty. So he gives that madman energy, despite the fact that what he's explaining is the time paradox of his ship having gone to fight Voyager, brought everybody back here to 1996, and then letting that ship fall in the hands of Ed Bigley Jr. and therefai like sewing the seeds of the disaster that he set out to prevent. It's one of the things I think about a lot when I see the people on the margins who are unhoused and unwell, like whether or not you enter into that situation with great mental health,

the idea of spending years in a situation where you are more or less ignored, has got to make you feel a kind of crazy. No, and it's like one of the primary arguments for the housing first approach to dealing with homelessness is like there's so many like programs that are like well let's assess the need and then like we'll get them into you know the track and eventually connect them with a job in which case they'll be able to pay for blah blah blah and

it's like no just they get them stable get them safe get a roof over their head get a meal in their belly like that should be the first thing. Like, everybody needs a house. It's a fucking human right. Yeah, it's crazy to look back and see like how different it was in 1996 in terms of those programs. Like, very disappointing compared to today.

We've come so far. This moment for Braxton and the actor who plays him, I think is why you take this role because he has got real Joe Pesci and JFK energy when he explains the nature of the disaster that is to befall them. Great, great scene here that he just takes over. He does a really nice job. And the truth of the matter that we get from this scene is that someone stole the time ship and caused the accident in the future and Braxton knows that it's Ed Bigley Jr's fault. And before they can get much further into this conversation, some fucking cops pull up and give Braxton a real hard time

about being out there and hanging up his signs. You stay right where you are! Quasi, Cardassian, Trautalitorium! But you can't shove a cop, Braxton. You really can't do that, man, because he does a shove and run, and that gives Janeway and Chicoeté the distraction they need to get the fuck out of there. Now listen, if I was a defense attorney, I would be asking questions like why is LAPD hassling this guy about hanging up signs in Santa Monica, which is not part of their jurisdiction. Like, why are they, why are they calling him?

How do you mean you be moving on a technicality? Yeah, but that's not the direction this episode goes. It does not turn into a courtroom drama about the civil rights of the unhoused. I bet you really ached for that kind of pivot huh? It did. Instead, Chico Te and Janeway now have his communicator and he is in the wind. And we cut up to a head-baglie junior's office. Yeah, he's working in the Cronowar X building, which I found to be a real

failure of typography there as a logo, as a name. It looks 1996, 1970 as that, but it's also illegible for that reason. I thought. Once I saw Cranowar X, it was all I saw. Yeah. I'm a Cranowar, not a shower, by the way. Which means you have to go back in time to see my erection. It's time travel. At Beggley Jr., very upset. Billionaires have such a hard time finding good help and they just spend so much time creating jobs. It's very stressful. Now, now the word is kind of out about this. And they told two people, and they told two people.

And they tell two friends, and they tell their friends, and so on, and so on, and so on. This is where the relationship between Ed Begley, Jr., and his hench, becomes super clear and dark. Dunbar the henchman. I love this moment. You may have to use the weapon, he says.

The weapon is apparently already in Dunbar's coat because he like sticks his hand inside and like nods. Like yeah, I got it. Yeah, I mean, it's always on my person. Where else would it be? Do you think he got like a custom like shoulder holster made for the weapon? Because it doesn't, it's not the same shape as like a,

as like a block. I bet it's that nice bridal leather, you know, with some, with some very satisfying buttons. If I didn't hate guns so much, I would want to wear one. They look great. Yeah. Really looks good.

Maybe I could like get one that's just for like a wallet or something, a wallet holster. Yeah. The last thing you want to be if you're Ed Begley Jr. is on the phone, fixing this fucking mess that Sarah Silverman made. Yeah, the latter is picked. Also in the scene for the acting Ed Begley does while doing like a pretty capable game of pinball.

Yeah. Yeah. He does not let that ball fall between the paddles while he's acting. I wonder how many takes that took. I don't know. I never last long in pinball. The first ball is always a disaster. It takes me a couple of reps to get up to.

Yeah, I know. It sucks. It's hard. You know what else is hard, Adam, is finding parking up at the Griffith Park Observatory, but not for Paris and Tuvac. Now they get the Pope spot right out front. Yeah, really nice parking. I mean, they don't know about red curbs.

The red zone has always been for loading at uploading. There's never stopping it on white zone. So presumably this thing is gonna get towed, but they went to a dealership and asked to test drive a blue pickup truck. And without giving the dealership like a credit card or a driver's license or any form of collateral, they were giving this truck.

You really filled in the blanks here, Ben, in a way that I did not. I had it in my head that they just stole a truck and were going to return it to a dealership after because that's the only logical sense it made to a Tom Paris who has a pseudo grasp of what Earth is like in 1996 or 97. I mean, your story makes a thousand times

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Gold. So they get into Reigns office, and they're poking around her stuff. Paris not being super tactical about this. He's not really trying to cover his tracks. Might I remind you of the butterfly effect? Yeah. That document being over there on the desk could have unimaginable ripples in our timeline.

Yeah. This is some great odd couple shit though. Did you notice the talosian action figure on her desk? Oh yeah, that's fun. That's a nice little wink. Wink in a finger gun. Yeah, the botany bay spaceship model also in this office. Yeah, this girl's a nerd. She's one of us.

Yeah, just a scant 20 years from this scene. She could have been a friend of Disoto. No. One of the things they figured out in this scene is that Voyager is being tracked even though they shouldn't have the ability to do that with this year's technology. Yeah. They don't know what war permissions are and yet this this equipment is configured to look for them. That's the moment where manic pixie nerd girl enters and she is pissed at these trespassers as anyone would be. You're gonna wish you never fucking got up this morning asshole. I'm sorry, I think we're a little lost. Their story is they were separated from

their tour group, which is clearly an idea they came up with based on what happened to Kess last episode. Right. And they're talking to her about how cool they think her lab is. Paris calls it Groovy, missing some contemporary lingo by a couple of decades. What was the lingo in 96 or 97?

Like I want to say that that he would have been better off with yeah, it's pretty tight. Yeah, no I think tight would have been it. Yeah the point being Paris is fucking blowing it with rain and they should have sent Kim It's funny whenever you see someone rickering and not able to pull it off. Like, Paris does his best version of that. But it's not that Paris doesn't have charisma. It's that he has a different kind of charisma than riker. And he doesn't need to be riker because whatever his vibe is is sufficient enough to impress Rain Robbins and enough to make a pass at him.

She tries to see you next Tuesday on him. Yeah. She runs the Planetarium show on Tuesdays and invites them to come back with pals. You get in that dark room looking up at the stars and some pink Floyd plan. Sarah Silverman doing bits and lasers and smoke. Are you telling me you're not going to go to that next Tuesday? Paris, come on man, you're blowing it. Be pretty exciting.

Yeah. So Paris and Tuvac are on their way out after having sabotaged her computer. And Sarah Silverman takes great umbrabridge with this as she runs out after them She's like, do you think I wasn't gonna notice the wooden shoe that you threw at my computer screen? And what is that thing in your pants? She starts in on them about the computer thing and she's like, hey wait a second. Why how can you park here? Do you guys just not care about parking tickets or what? It is like a $200 ticket.

Do you not realize that? You're lucky you didn't get fucking toad. What's crazy is both the truck and the parking ticket under the windshield wiper get vaporized by an ugly junior's hench. So it's not a problem anymore. Dunbar starts looking shots at them with the weapon. Yeah. And Tuvac starts firing back. It's a phaser fight at the OK Planetarium. I love a rolling shoot and you get this with Tuvac. Yeah. Pretty good action sequence. Yeah. They managed to return fire long enough to jump into the back of Rain Robinsons, Libby and

Bus from back to the future. Look hard, buddy! It does look like the same bus. My god, Tuvak! I don't know how, but they found us. Hey, what's this briefcase for uranium bag here? I don't know if you noticed, but Tuvac or his stunt man, and I'm positive it's the stunt double for Tim Russ.

On the jump, absolutely bashes his thigh on the van opening here, on the dive in, in a way that like couldn't possibly not leave a giant bruise. It looks like it hurts so bad. Hopefully that person's okay. Yeah. My dad used to have the VW bus. Was it blue like the Libyan bus from back to the future?

It was white. Yeah. It was like primer white. Now I bet. We call it the bump mobile, because it was like, it was bouncy when I was a kid. That's great. Did your dad also leave takeout food in the back for like two weeks?

Yeah, that was like two cars from then. The bump, the bump mobile was destroyed by Pinkertens when he was involved in a labor action in San Francisco who poured sugar in the gas tank. Got classic Pinkertens. Yeah, fucking assholes. Back on Voyager, Kim is giving us an update about what's going on God classic pinkertons. Yeah, fucking assholes. Back on Voyager, Kim is giving us an update about what's going on on the ship. Primarily is that he's delegated the task of watching TV to Nielix and Kess.

Yeah, Nielix and Kess are gonna start a television recap podcast. This is such a stupid idea. No one- Pathetic. Yeah. What fucking losers would do that? Yeah, no one's gonna listen to that. Get out of here. Good luck finding an audience. Don't quit your day job, Nielix, in case.

Bad idea. Nielix, Tin Man's the word soap opera. In a very fun way. It's a form of entertainment called a soap opera, Tim Maugh. And they get really caught up in the stories. Mhm. Nelix may be more so than Kess. And they haven't come up with the innovation of watching this from a couch.

They're watching this from a standing position, which feels very like we're very new to this, but we like it. Kind of decision. Every time we're up on Voyager and we see Earth in the background of a composition, it made me wonder how other people were feeling on the ship about being back on Earth and not being permitted to go down there and how much they knew about where and when they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I could really go for a lower Dex C story here. Yeah, they didn't have like a boasting whistle

on the captain announcing to the crew. Here's what the situation is. Right, and tonally I think that would have taken things in a more serious direction than they were going for here. Like the vibe is fun this episode. There are a lot of things that they really nail about this episode. Adam, the next scene is Chicote and Janeway breaking into the office of Starling, the Ed Bakley Jr. character. One thing they did not nail was the way the

buildings look outside the windows. Did you notice this? They were like totally at the wrong angle for the windows. Yep. Really bad. Yeah. Not looking great. Janeway sits at Ed Bigley Jr.'s computer and starts clicking around on the tax documents. And Shikote is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

That is... I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for in that folder. Looks like a series of pictographs. How about this other folder over here? But what's weird is like Janeway uses her tricorder and she's like to co-tape, there is far more data inside the tax documents folder than any other folder. Like, by a massive degree, there's like gigabytes and gigabytes in the tax folder.

And it's 1996, like the biggest hard drive available to consumers is like 512 megabytes max. So unless he's got like a scuzzy raid somewhere in the building, I think that this is what we're looking for. And to go to he's like, you don't understand Janeway, I am telling you. Turn back now. You remember those zip disk, like file folder, containers next to the monitor? There's like 12 zip disks in there, all of them label tax documents, and a zip drive there. Take the map.

It's crazy how shitty the computer looks and how real that computer looks too. Totally. That's just what it was. Down on the streets of Los Angeles, the bump mobile is cruising along with two-vagan Paris and the front seats and a very angry rain robinson in the back. She's threatening to start yelling and start drawing attention to them. And they've told her that they are secret agents, that the thing that she detected in orbit is a Soviet spy satellite.

And she's like, the Soviets aren't even around anymore. And their story is pretty thin. Yeah, wait until 2016, guys. 30% of the people you pitch something like that, too, will believe it. Immediately. This is another moment in the episode that could have taken a turn into the intense much like the moment where we learn that the they can't use transporters on the voyage. Or we learn in this scene that the communicators were damaged and this feels a lot like what it was

like to get lost before cell phones and try to meet up with someone. Right. Like it should feel scary but it doesn't really. Yeah, like how they don't know like where they're going, how to get around, they don't have any way to get in contact with the ship, like how will the fuck are they going to get out of this? And why the hell is Paris driving? Like I love that Paris relishes the opportunity

to drive as a car nerd, we know him to be. Yeah. It'd be funny if he got something wrong though. That he assumed was the way to do things. I always think about like what if you actually drove the way you drive in Grand Theft Auto? Yeah. And like his all his driving reps are on the holiday, so.

Yeah. That would have been great. In the office of Bullshit Chris Brenner, they find schematics for the time ship, and they realize that the time ship is in fact here. And it is in fact here. It is in this seed that Janeway gives voice to something that I was kind of feeling in this episode. Also, it was like time travel, like yeah, whatever.

Like it seems fun, but fuck time travel. It's weird, they look through the window and the time ship is involved in some kind of like focus group situation, being asked a bunch of questions. Yeah, turn the knob to the left if you think greatest generation is bad. And turn the knob to the right if you think the greatest generation sucks. They figure out that Ed Begley Jr. has been prepping this time ship for launch.

It's not just that he's been milking the ship for all of these inventions that he brings to market. It's that he's going to actually fly this thing. Yeah. This was such a popular idea that the 90s, the like aliens came to earth and all technology that has been developed in the last couple of decades is owing to us, you know, monetizing that. Like it's the premise of men in black.

The premise of so many things. It's because it's so believable, right? You tell me someone could just think of Velcro? Yeah, so they realize that the launch of this ship will cause this disaster that Braxton has been warning them about. So if they can get a hold of the time shift, they could potentially ward off disaster. Yeah, but guess what?

Someone's about to stop them because enter Ed Bagley, Jr. and his henchmen. Welcome to the 20th century. Some weird Dutch angles in this scene. The only thing I could think of for why they went with these weird Dutch angles and the confrontation between Starling and Janeway and Jakota is that the angles of the backdrops outside the windows were so bad that the Dutch angles sort of like obscure that.

That's interesting. I really like that theory. Like to see it in a squared off composition would be to betray it. And so you've got to touch it. Yeah. I like that. I like that. A touch angle, like if you don't know is just when when the camera you set you usually set up the camera where the bottom of the frame is parallel to the floor and a Dutch angle is just where it's it's shot on a funky angle. It's also framed as if the camera are a lot taller

because you're using a Dutch cameraman. He's very tall and stoic. Yeah, not a great sense of humor on that cameraman. No. It's a very notable, weird choice in this episode in these scenes, but yeah, he's like, I'm on you, you're here to take the time ship, but you can't stop me, I have on to you. You're here to take the time ship, but you can't stop me.

I have the weapon and Dunbar here to hold it. Jane was like, you may have the weapon, but I have started transferring your tax documents up to the Voyager. And this really sets at Bigly Junior off. He takes the weapon from Dunbar and sticks it in his mouth and pulls the trigger until it goes click The data transfer is

Aborted quickly because he grabs Janeway's communicator and tells Harry that Janeway is toast unless They cut it off and so they don't get his whole database and so up on the bridge Harry and Belana Like have this little debate like fuck we got to get the captain and Chico J out of there. But they said not to, like, come down into lower orbit because we'll betray the existence of the ship to these primitive past people. We can't risk that. And Kim decides to go ahead and do it. He decides to break the captain's orders and take the ship into very low orbit so that they can do this Trans... this emergency transport. This is Jordy LaFord's shit, isn't it? Like the first time he's put in a command, he separates the ship and you start doing crazy shit. Yeah. This is fun. Ed Bagley Jr. is on his computer while this is going down, realizing how much of his tax documents

have been stolen. And Janeway's like, listen, like we're doing this to save 29th century earth. It's going to blow up if you do your plan. And he's, you know, the kind of villain that doesn't care about being warned away from his evil plan. Now, Janeway gets beamed out of there. Chicoote has to hit Dunbar with a chair to distract him. And then Chicoote gets beamed out of there. ChicoTe has to hit Dunbar with a chair to distract him and then ChicoTe gets beamed out of there. And then up on the bridge, Janeway, like

rapid fire has a bunch of orders for the crew. Hell, maintain present altitude. ChicoTe see if you could disable the force field around that time ship. Blanna, prepare to lock out of the time ship and beam it to cargo bay to coffee black. And the primary plan is let's get that time ship. Let's beam it into the shuttle bay. And uh, at Bay Glijunior starts like counter hacking them. And somehow is using the transporter beam as a downlink and is pulling Voyager's own tax documents

folder down onto his computer. I love how this is revealed. Like Ed Bigley Jr. might be a dumb in 1996, but he has access to all the tech from the 29th century. So it superpowers him in a way that makes him a really formidable enemy. It's like how Elon Musk is a dumb person objectively and yet is the richest man walking there because he has access to capital at him.

Right. I mean, the button on the episode basically is Ed Bigley Jr. calling to gloat about how weak their 24th century tech is in the face of his 29th century tech. Yeah. And, you know, among other things that we don't see in this moment, he takes the doc and beams the doc down to his office. Yeah, and we get like shaky cam footage of the Voyager over over Los Angeles. Pretty grim ending. Seems like the Voyagers without a medical officer,

they've revealed their presence to the evening news in LA. And Ed Begley Jr. has all of the cards. And two Valken Paris are stranded on Earth. I mean, things could be worth. They're stranded with Sarah Silverman and a camper van Just go on without me guys. That's what I'd say if I were Tom Paris Look if you got to leave someone behind Yeah, if you have to sacrifice someone to this time, don't don't shed a tear for me guys

Yeah, this actually worked out pretty good for me Did you like the episode, Ben? You know, I've made it easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I really like this episode. I think it's a really fun episode. Like, we were talking about, like, some of the ideas and tonal stuff that it borrows from other sci-fi of its era. And that stuff would cling if it wasn't capably executed, but it totally is. And it's capably executed within a very fun Star Trek context. They really think that this episode owes a ton of its success to lessons learned in the Star Trek 4.

But it really works for me as an episode, and I can't wait to watch part two. You know a lot of times in two partners, it's easy to reserve judgment until the second part. This is one of those circumstances where I think we're both feeling right away that this is good, and this is fun without having to need to see the second part. Well, I think that like the test of a two-parter is did the first part make you want to watch the second part. Yeah, yeah, and I definitely do.

Oh good. I also feel like, you know, a lot of people think you can only get a good at Baygley performance in New York, but the Baygley's in LA, I think are really good. And I think the episode proves it. I have heard actually many people think that the Montreal Baygley is the best. Yeah, I mean, you get Baygley in a period drama shooting in Montreal. I mean, that's just great stuff right there. That's solid as here.

Adam do you want to see if we have anything in the priority one inbox? Oh yeah. That satisfies like a bagel. That satisfies like a pre-written joke like that. Yeah. Priority one message from Star fleet coming in on secured channel Need a supplement on top of the moon stop a moon Yeah, it's extra the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship Adam our first priority one message is from Eric It's to Ben and Adam. I was like this. Hey guys, love the show. Thought I would give you some scarves.

You have been making my commute a great way to chill out after a stressful year and a half. It's been some long days slash nights in the lab, supporting COVID manufacturing as an employee of a pharmaceutical company. Shout out to FOD Kurt on a free for introducing me to the pod. Wow.

Thank you, Eric. Eric has admitted he works at the pharmaceutical company that makes COVID. What the fuck, Eric? Hey, Eric, get a wooden shoe, throw it into the machine. I don't like COVID. Eric says a lot of nice things about the show, but he hasn't yet heard the, the bagelie joke.

And I'm just not sure if that's gonna drive him away forever. The tragedy of this is we'd been a year and a half into COVID when Erick sent this P1. Now almost two years into COVID is when he would have heard it, but he got to the bagelied joke part of this episode and turned off the pod forever. I never even know that this was the episode that his V1 was on. That's tragic. So sad. Ben, our second priority when message is from DK and the messages for Sassy Belushi. The message goes like this, can you believe it's almost been eight years?

When we met and kept finding fandoms we shared, two embarrassed for Trek as a teen, but together, we found that Trek love again. Thanks pandemic media binge, sadly. Oh. Pandemic recreational, Felicium beat us. As we prepare to quit it, I leave this message in a bottle. I hope

we're moving on together when it airs. Wow, kind of a cryptic message to our end from DK to Sassy Belushi. Do you know what Felicium means? I don't. I got a couple of Jose Felicium records in my collection, but those on from time to time. I don't know what mean Felicium. It's a Star Trek vaccine. Oh, geez. It's that shit in the... in the... it's the lentils. Oh!

DK with a deep cut there. Yeah, well kidding. God. Oh. Nice work, DK. You really got one past my mind-go- cut there. Yeah, well kidding. God. Nice work, DK. You really got one past my mind goalie there. Yeah, DK, if you're upset about the pandemic, let me let me recommend you bring your complaints to Eric. Yeah, yeah. Expand all your frustration onto Eric. Yeah. Clearly responsible for this whole situation. Hey, you know what? Eric might have been the reason for the pandemic, but he did

buy a priority one message, so kind of evens itself out. Even money. If you'd like to unmask yourself as the villain behind a pandemic or promote a personal project or send a message to a loved one. Had to maximumfund.org slash jembo tron and set yours up today. Hey Adam. What's that been? Did you find yourself a drunk promoter? I mean you think you know what you're in for when you got an ed bagley junior on screen,

and I love his playing against type here this episode. I find his gear for arch is great. It's speedy and good and believable, and like every time he's on screen, I am just with it. In an episode that gives you a lot to distract, like I was totally locked in on his whole deal. And I think that speaks to the power of his performance. I really liked his character and I liked his work here.

So I'm just gonna use my Shimoda as a recognition of that. What about you? Mine's a little sillier than that. I agree that a baked Lee Jr. is great in this episode. My drunk Shmota is a girl that is rollerblading on Venice Beach in the, in the first scene where they first beam down. He goes in between Chico Te and Janeway in a way that is just like, there is a certain way about people on Venice Beach.

Venice Beach has decorum that is considerably looser than most public spaces. But girls on roller blades do not force their way in between two people who are walking together like. Oh, maybe in your experience. It just really caught my intention how unhinged that was as an act. So that lady gets my Drunk Shemota award for this episode. You told me a while back that you were a competent ice skater.

Did you ever bring those skills to the roller variety of skate? I had roller blades and I remember being not as good at rollerblading. And I think the main reason is that the way you slow yourself down is so different on rollerblades than it is on ice gates, because ice gates, it's all about like turning your blades like more and more toward perpendicular to the direction you're traveling. And if you do that with wheels, you just fall on your ass

Yeah, the way you stop on roller blades is by hitting a parked car Which is what I did every time I tried to roller blade. Yeah, exactly Yeah, so I feel like I wasn't as good on roller blades, but um Still good at skating. Yeah, so I cats love you Still good at skating. Yeah. So my cats love you. Objection noted. We'll do this without you.

What do you do it? What do you do it? Do it. Well, Adam, it's time to talk about the next episode of this show and how we will be doing the next episode of this show. For that, we go to gucht.biz-game, where we keep the game of butthole to the real caretaker. The next episode is Futures End Part Two.

Voyager must find a way to stop starling before his attempted use of the time ship destroys Earth's solar system. I mean, not the solar system in 1996, or even the solar system in 23, 20 here wherever Voyager's from, right? Like, do you have a good grasp of at this moment in time why Ed Bagley Jr's character would choose to fly the time ship instead of continuing to milk it for inventions that make him rich and famous? Like, it seems like the moment where Janeway was like,

by flying the ship, you risk killing billions of people. He'd be like, okay, cool. So I'll just be a trillionaire on earth for the rest of my life, living in luxury. Like, I can deal with that as a fallback option. The thing about a billionaire though, I don't want to go to space, huh? They don't know when they have enough.

Enough is not in their vocabulary. I think that part of that is hinted at in that first scene with him where he's like dissatisfied with the computer chip. It seems like maybe he's like hit the limit of how much of the time ship he's able to figure out ways to commercialize. Yeah, that was unclear to me.

You're required to learn as you play, role. We're on square 32. Just ahead, we have a Janeway square, which could delta fly us all the way up to the measure of a man square on 87. Wow. We could also potentially hit a Neelix's Gally square, which is the champagne toast square.

I've got some champagne I could drink. That is a very head-a-key episode, though. To the end. Yeah, really. All right, I'm going to roll this bone. See what we've hit. All right. I have sandwiched our run about right in between those two. I rolled a three.

Tula! Did I win? Oh, I think. We have landed on square 35, a regular old episode next week. I feel like I can pick up the spare at the end of next week's episode and get that one. I'm pretty good for a one. Oh yeah, he really are. Well that was a really fun episode. Really looking forward to next week. This show is a show that is produced by the great Winnie Pretty. Right here on Expert Shabota

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Yeah. We had to give her benefits and stuff. She's expecting a serious job here. Alright? You know who else is doing a seriously good job as Adam Ragusea? He's the person behind most of the great music you hear on the show, the music you hear in right now. Maybe by the great dark material, but that's the interstitial music. For the greatest generation voyager and

DS9 and the OG greatest generation. That's all his work, Adam Ragusey. That's all cooked up by the goose, who not only cooks up music, he also cooks up food on his great YouTube program. Yeah, food and thinking about food. It's really, it's smart programming. Yeah, I really enjoy it. We should thank the card daddy Bill Tilly

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I haven't been to the Discord in a while. I gotta go back there and do one of those impulse Q&A sessions that I use to be. Yeah. Yeah. You really run in a classy operation over there on the Discord. Yeah, they do a good job.

With that, we'll be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager. An episode of the greatest generation Voyager, where seriously, we are like editing out things that we say about Sarah Silvermoon because we have such a huge crush on her. I've never not had a crush on Sarah Silvermoon. Yeah, this is her first acting role.

That's impossible. Yeah. I don't believe it. She was like the youngest SNL cast member before Pete Davidson. Wasn't she? She'd like hired an acting coach when she got cast in this because she didn't really feel like she knew how to act. Wow.

I mean, she's almost LA bagel quality. And this episode, really good. Really good. Maximumfund.org. Comedy and culture. Artist-don't. Audience-supported. Yolk, be kadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakadakad