The Greatest Generation - Hosting Trauma (VOY S7E12)

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

When an unforced error by John Torres makes BLT react badly to her new parasite, she’d rather go Gattaca in the holo research lab than listen to the people who care about her. But when she reprograms Dr. Mark to schism her in sicksbay, the suction cups come out and only childhood trauma can earn her forgiveness. What do gender reveal parties look like on a Federation starship? Who’s the morale officer of the family? How deep a hole can BLT dig? It’s the episode with too much headboard!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranicka. Back at it again, Adam. Boy. A lot of anticipation of a new baby stuff in today's episode. Had to make you feel a kind of way, huh? Yeah. All of the wanting my baby not to be like me stuff. Very relatable. Oh, no, Ben. Is this about to be a very special episode of Greatest Generation? I just didn't want him to have my nose and forehead ridges, you know It's mainly about that. I mean that had to disappoint you then, huh? When you wiped Daron off to reveal, ta-da!

Oh, no! And then I was like, wait a minute, our mailman is also a Klingon. I have to say the timing of this episode also hit me in a specific way, Ben. I've been doing a lot of, I guess, what you could call nesting around the house and I'm just gonna say it. Like I'm gonna say it on the show for the first time. We're having company come out

and stay with us this weekend. Oh, bless your heart. Congratulations. I know we've been trying for a while to get people to come visit us from out of town. Our friends from New York are finally gonna make it. And... That's great.

We're at a point now where it's safe to actually tell people like, because we're within like the 24 hour window. They've checked in for their flight. You can't cancel the flight without some real consequences at this point. Yeah. You think of yourself as this kind of cerebral, rational being, and then you've got friends

coming in from out of town and you find yourself, you know, putting things right, you know, getting your house ready for it. Aren't we just mammals working off instinct at the end of the day? It's so insane. Like all of my friends are telling me like, Amel's working off instinct at the end of the day. It's so insane. All of my friends are telling me what I have to do

when they come in from New York to visit LA. They have all these restaurant recommendations. Hikes we should take, places we should go. They mean well, right? I kind of want to decide these things for myself. Yeah, yeah. It happens to everyone, you know? I mean, my wife and I are fighting a little bit more.

Like I think that's just because we're stressed. Yeah, well, it's stress and hormones. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Well, I'm just really happy for you, man. I think that you guys are gonna be great hosts. That's just my hunch. I think you're gonna really, really kind of fully flower as people once you're hosting

out of town friends. The thing is Ben, I've got some real feelings about the sort of hosts my parents were, and I just don't wanna be like them. You don't wanna repeat those mistakes. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

So I'm hoping like my generation is going to do it right. You're going to break the cycle of bad hosting. You know some of that stuff's epigenetic. They find evidence of it in people generations later. Yeah. Yeah. Lot of hosting trauma. And look at me. Look at yeah, lot of hosting trauma.

And look at me, look at me, I'm hosting right now. Yeah, you're, it's like I can't escape it. You're hosting the greatest generation. There are so many people that have told us that they started podcasts inspired by ours. So in many ways, we have already sowed our seed of hosting. You know, for a couple of years there, I thought I mighted our seed of hosting. You know, for a couple of years there, I thought I might be too old to host.

But I think I'm, you know what? I'm getting more comfortable with the idea of like, in the decades ahead, being an old host. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I think I could do that. I think that would be cool. Yeah. Hey, let me know if you've like registered anywhere

for hosting and I'd love to make a special purchase for you and your wife. Yeah, I mean, Bed Bath and Beyond because we need the linens for hosting, Ben. We need so many linens and sheets and towels primarily are great. You want the freshies for the guests, don't you? Ever since they became what,

like a wholly owned subsidiary of Overstock.com. Oh yeah. I feel like I've really enjoyed buying things that were as seen on TV even more. Oh yeah. I mean, sometimes you buy a cabinet and there's a kid in it. Yeah, I don't want one of those when I'm hosting. No way. That is too much responsibility.

Well, let's get into the episode. We're almost halfway through season seven now. It's season seven episode 12. Lineage. Reverse course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes. I'm not turning around. I mean, where does the time go? Ben, I mean, the show grows up so fast. Yeah, the longest, shortest show. This cold open is great. And I think it needs to be great because of how emotionally fraught the rest of it is.

The vibes are immaculate. BLT in Paris are in such a good mood. Yeah. Is this Mirror Universe or is BLT freshly fucked? Was the question I kept asking myself. Like, we've never seen their marriage going this great. I love the take that Paris has here where even he's a little suspicious about what a great mood she's in. It's another beautiful day in the Delta Quadrant. Would you have her breakfast? Eichib hasn't been around, has he?

You go climbing with Eichib? She takes her good mood to work. She walks around engineering, is kind of patting everybody on the back telling him at a boy at a girl until she finds each of and he's up on the second level doing something with seven of nine. Did this feel a little off? Like she's so fucking happy and then she sees each of and whoa she lights into him from across the room. I don't remember giving you permission to work here.

I'm sorry, Lieutenant. Was it that she didn't see Seven of Nine at first? The way the scene was blocked and the camera angles that they picked kind of didn't... I wasn't quite clear on what this was, because if it's just like, each of is not under any circumstances, even when being supervised supervised allowed in engineering, that's one thing.

I like your theory, though, about, like, if you run into your teacher at the grocery store, it's just like, that is a person I don't expect to see here, and it kind of freaks me out. You're gonna be really freaked out when you see that I'm also here. A pipe sprung a leak right next to the warp core. I know you don't like when that kind of thing happens. I'm kinda like the ship's janitor.

I've got keys to the whole ship. A lot of people don't even notice when I'm in the room. The things you overhear in a job like this. I mean if I could hear over all the slopping of this squeegee. You know how I relax? I go into the holodeck and create a program where the pipes all lead away. Hey, Echib, when I go rock climbing with BLT, I'm very far down the rock, but I'm still looking up.

Things are looking up for E chips, brother. I believe it. Yeah. Hey, watch that first step though, BLT. Yeah, no kidding. She is weak in the knees upon seeing this Borgs in her engineering section. You ever think about how difficult this might be for an actor?

Like we've talked about act drunk before, we've talked about hanging tear, but like kind of a slip and fall act, making it look plausible. This doesn't look easy. Well, Roxanne Dawson started her career as a career plaintiff. So she actually did have a lot of reps selling a bad tumble in a grocery

store or whatever. That's fun. She starts kind of flopping around like she's in something slippery. She really can't get her feet under her. Sorry, I'll get to that in a minute. That's my bad. Should have put up a cone. Let me just say, Pizzomohado. I love, like the one person BLT doesn't want around.

As stated, is Ichib, and sure as shit, Ichib is the one that gets in there first with the tricorder. Yeah, I thought it was very funny writing And sure as shit, each of us is the one that gets in there first with the tricorder. Yeah. I thought it was very funny writing that the Borgs don't know where babies come from. Yeah. And they're like, this has parasite written all over it. Second life sign from within the same birdie.

Oh no. Yeah. Yeah, it does not look good. Seven knows though. Yeah. Seven does the math. She radios up to the doctor. This is like a good moment for her though, right?

She gets so few opportunities to be like, hey, sis, I'm gonna walk you to Six Bay. Like she has that moment and only that moment to do this, but I think it's significant. It is, it's a good moment. Yeah, like that's not quite a maternal thing, but there's like a thing that I feel like, you know, like when my wife became pregnant

or to cite another example, like when your wife decided to host some friends. I think that's the one more people could relate to. They gather women around them, you know, to kind of, you know, this is something that only they can relate to on a certain level. The hosting showers tonight, Ben. I gotta clear out.

Oh man. And you wanna come over here and knock back some brusquies with your boy? Yeah, let's do that, man. Let's give him a wide berth. So when we come back from theme, it is Tom and Belana meeting with Dr. Mark. Oh, hi Mark.

About the news of their surprise news. It seems like they've been not trying, but not not trying is kind of the vibe I got. Yeah. Like they pulled the goalie, but she wasn't like taking her temperature every morning Then I'm just gonna ask the question. I think it's the question on everyone's mind here There's four holes down there, right? Oh man

It's a real it's what you call a target ridge environment when you're a pilot I mean, it's probably the thing that makes Paris way to be when answering the question like you've been trying, right? Because sure. I mean, sometimes you're gonna be where you should be. Yeah, yeah. Do they really need two buttholes for redundancy? I mean, from what I gather, it's total redundancy, right? I guess so,

yeah. But third lung, it's not total, total. Right. I mean, but there's no such thing as a half a whole. That's true. You're either a whole or you're not. Yeah, she's seven weeks along. She's learning all about it. There's gonna be some mood swings. You're gonna have a great big appetite. You know, that's one thing I didn't mention knowing I'm gonna be hosting soon, is like my diet has completely flown out off a cliff.

I'm eating everything I can. You know, I didn't say it earlier, but I have been meaning to say, I really appreciate that when you talk about it, you say, we're hosting, not my wife is hosting. I know, yeah. Because what it says to me is that you're in a mindset and a grindset that this is as much your responsibility

as it is hers. And while her body is bearing the brunt of the host. Yeah. Oh wait, I don't wanna keep going at the back door. Yeah. The doctor, the doctor calls their attention to some inconveniences about the whole human Klingon conception combination,

right? Yeah. All pregnancies are their own challenges. And yet this one for its unique properties could present some even more interesting challenges to them. They seem to be all right with this. What they are not all right with is knowing the gender at this point.

Yeah, they're gonna leave that a secret. Do you, how about with your out of town guests, do you know yet? Well, then we got both pink and blue solo cups for the partying. So I think we'll, you know what, some people might find it really like hyper progressive, but I'm gonna let the guests choose what cups they use.

Hell yeah. One more filling them up with beverages. Right on. So yeah, they're not going to be cutting into a solo cup and revealing what color the beverage is inside. This is definitely the era where a torpedo launch ceremony on Star Trek could be the gender reveal party of its era, right? They set a nebula on fire in the color of... Yeah.

They're happy, they're like bickering a little bit, but it's because they're overwhelmed, but most importantly, as they walk down the hallway after this doctor visit, they agree that this is going to be a secret that they reveal to people later. That's right. And the mood in this corridor, this is a corridor episode, not unlike the very last episode,

which was also like using the corridor conversation as a space between Story beats like the corridors tell the emotional story of this episode throughout and in this corridor scene The mood's a little different. Yeah, like they're in full on planning mode. Yeah the way I am right now Mm-hmm planning on doing a grocery trip tonight Yeah, and and you know wondering whether you're gonna need to reconfigure your house. Is the home office gonna have to change functions? Sure, yeah.

Do we have enough brode? Really top of mind right now. Yeah. Our course is locked in. What? Listen to me very carefully, because I'm only going to say locked in. Do it. Listen to me and be very careful because I'm only going to say this once. No sooner have they agreed that the baby is going to be a secret than Tom walks into Neelik's restaurant to almost like surprise party.

It'd be like if you had a surprise party, but it was just Neelik's and then a bunch of people from central casting and none of your friends. Or for you, it's like just a lot of barbecue. Yeah. Ah, you shouldn't have. I like Nelix. Nelix can't help that he wasn't supposed to know. He offers Paris a glass of the blue drink of Ichab running his fucking mouth. It's Ichab's fault, right?

It's not Nelux's fault. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm sure you can relate to this. You're the only one that can enjoy the blue drink right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you just...

This is a serious question now for you. Are people just allowed to fucking campaign for Godfather? Did that ever happen to you? No. I am shocked that this is a thing that pervades this entire episode. I thought you were nominated. I never thought you campaigned for it. Yeah, maybe this is like a small town thing.

Like the Voyager crew is so up each other's asses cause there's only 125 of them or whatever that if you don't put your foot forward, like somebody else is gonna get it and then that's just gonna be drama. Tell you what, man, I'm looking for less jobs if I'm on Voyager. Name me out of that.

Yeah, so yeah, me looks the cook and the head of, I guess, morale and head diplomat of the ship wants to also become a godfather for the second time. And Paris is a little irritated about everybody knowing. I liked this Talaxian saying, Omar Salas, good news has no clothes. In our culture, it's the emperor. Yeah. I like the idea of, and I don't know whether this is true. I've never been a godfather, nor do I know any godfathers, but like but I kind of feel like their role is grandmother or grandfatherly in that like,

if you were a morale officer on a ship, grandparents are often like the morale officers of a family. Like I have great memories of my grandparents just being the folks that gave me the greatest time and then handed me back. Like what a great role to have. Yeah, the surprise party for BLT is a little bit fancier. It is the commander and captain showing up at her job

and offering her a bunch of paid time off, which is nice to see, you know, nobody's offering that to Paris. You know, work to be done in that area for sure. Yeah, the disparity between treatment here, really troubling, don't like seeing it. Yeah, and that's why I just, as a co-owner of Oxford, Shimoda do want to offer you paid time off

for when you have out of town guests at them. That's great. I plan on as soon as this record is done, turning the out of office on the email and calling it a couple of days. As well you should. There's coffee in that time off. They're very thrilled for her.

And you know, she's kind of, give me a break. Like, I'm gonna keep coming to work. If the only tension in the episode was the doting, I would feel like that was sufficient. I thought that's what this episode was gonna be. Like, BLT cannot deal with the doting. Yeah. If you need to cut back on your duties,

I'm sure seven would be happy to fill in for you. I think I can handle it. I mean, even Harry's doing it, right? Harry catches Tom in the hallway, says like, you're gonna become a square man, like you're gonna stop being awesome, you're gonna stop doing like bad shit with your friends. Sucks.

Yeah, you gotta stop smoking real cigarettes. I lasted 22 minutes. You know what, crucially, Harry Kim does not ask to be Godfather because he knows better. He doesn't want that responsibility. No way. Shows a little bit of tax, you know? Mm-hmm.

Is it just like you have to have a higher rank than lieutenant to be the godfather of a lieutenant's child? Oh, that's interesting. If that's part of the equation. Huh. Hmm. Hmm.

Maybe, but he doesn't ask. If nominated, he will not run. If elected, he will not serve. Yeah. In the Jeffries tube where Tuvac is working, a very interesting scene happens. Paris has never, in his entire career, volunteered for extra work.

And this really fucks with Tuvac big time. You could see the architecture of his mental defenses completely fracture here. He starts taking his tricorder to Tom and is like, I am detecting a parasite. Yeah, incredible. Tuvac doesn't drink tea that's been spilled by other folks. He had no idea that Paris is about to have guests.

And Paris does that thing where he starts like nervously talking about his feelings, just word vomiting all over Tubaq. It's interesting. Like, I guess this isn't really a security issue. So maybe that's why Tubaq hasn't heard. But it was interesting to me that like, It's interesting. I guess this isn't really a security issue. So maybe that's why Tuvok hasn't heard. But it was interesting to me that the guys that's supposed to be on top of everything that's going on on the ship is the last to know about something like this. But yeah, Paris is like, okay, well, I'm going to be. Like, can you give me the high level? Like, what do you do? And Tuvak is like, no.

That's not how that works. That's not how any of this works. The way Tuvak describes it, makes it seem as though parenthood is the most difficult challenge of being a logical Vulcan. Yeah. Talking your kids into being logical sounds hard as fuck. Yeah.

But also like not like kids do very much like experiment and learn from the world by, you know, trying stuff in a, in a way that's like not unscientific. At least initially, I mean, I don't know. They're also like very much not logical, but... Yeah, I mean, they're dumb as hell for a long time. Yeah. So you got to anticipate paradox.

That's the little nugget of advice that he comes up with. I love that Tuvok doesn't give advice, but rather just an observation after being a father for a couple of kids, right? This is what it was like for me. This is how I saw it. Good luck. Yeah.

That night, it feels like BLT is escaping the rest of the ship by coming home, right? Like she almost comes into the quarters and like barricades the door behind her. Yeah. I mean, everybody has through through offering their well wishes, offered a lot of thoughts and they're both kind of decompressing by just going like, hey, I wish everybody would fucking chill out and keep those things to themselves. And she's really going through it. That's a heavy burden and It's falling disproportionately on her.

This is not the greatest moment for Tom to make a little race joke. Oh yeah. People should know better than to interfere with a Klingon mother. What's that supposed to mean? Yeah, I mean, this is a sensitive time. You gotta be really sure about the jokes

in this scene if you're Tom Perez. Yeah, it really sets her off and she is about to boil over when she kind of catches herself and she'll go, oh right, the doctor told us that these are gonna be high stakes emotional times, what with all the hormones coursing through my birdie. Incredible moment of science fiction here. incredible moment of science fiction here. I mean, wow. A person catching themselves before the boil over? It's amazing, especially amazing for BLT.

Like I feel like she's the character that has been written to be the one to boil over. Oh yeah. Fast fastest and most often on this crew. But this scene ends really nicely with them, you know, kind of committing to this being a thing that they get to go through together and it's not about all these other people and their unasked for opinions. Boy, if they think this is the challenge that they're going through primarily, things really get kicked off in Six Bay where the doctor has called them.

In the middle of the room, they see a messed up spine projected to them and it runs in the family for BLT. There's a pronounced curvature to the left and Tom is like, this is from my dick, isn't it? Yeah. Paris doesn't bottom out at cervix. He bottoms out at like D12 vertebrae. Am I making any sense here? One hundred.

One hundred. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. There's something that runs in BLT's family. She had to have surgery on her spine when she was a girl. And when the doctor mentions that this is like much more likely to affect girls than boys in Klingon genetics. They sort of catch on.

I loved Robert Picardo's performance of trying to grab the words and shove them back into his mouth. But yeah, he spills the beans and oh man, you might as well just tell us, it's a girl. What a moment. So Paris is like, cool spine, bro. What do you think about, like, doing a holographic ultrasound and, like, show us the whole birdie? Yeah. And it's easy.

Of course he can do that. They can. And they do. And the doctor beeps some boops and hits a button and it's the dancing baby from Ali McBeal. Uga chaka, uga chaka, uga chaka. I do not remember if there are any other words to that song. I can't stop this feeling because I do not remember why I am having them. If you can fix the spine genetically, can you fix the frontal lobe?

You gotta think that maybe Kern or one of Kern's friends took him to the doctor and was like, can you sort of like reversing a vasectomy? Like you can... Unscramble this egg? Yeah. Because this guy is a pain in the ass. I mean, he keeps it interesting down there,

but you're in TSA, but honestly, we could use somebody that had a little bit more than a three second span of memory. We get a flashback here, kind of abruptly to a campfire scene and a stranger telling BLT that she looks like her mother. And I seem to think that this man looks like Lloyd Braun in the Frisculating Campfire Light.

Yeah. You never could compete with Lloyd Braun. But like recast later season Lloyd Braun. Not hunky. Yeah. You never could compete with Lloyd Braun. But like recast later season Lloyd Braun, not hunky like still works for the mayor pre going to the insane asylum Lloyd Braun. I think there's a lot of trust put on the viewer in how these flashbacks are deployed because this flashback

tells you almost nothing. It's just a little snip before we're back out of it. And many flashbacks are kind of untethered to the story as it moves forward, you're just like dropping little clues that don't really have a conclusion. This one seems to have been triggered by Paris kind of innocently suggesting that their daughter is going to look a lot like her mother, BLT. Right. And

that is revealed to be kind of an unwelcome thought based on the flashback and BLT's face when we cut back from it. Yeah. And BLTI's commercial and then BLTI's from commercial, where she's now lying in bed, just kind of lost in thought. I feel like they reconfigured their quarters. This bed situation looks different from before, right? Yeah. The headboard is enormous. I mean, this is a starship.

You're really using that much of the confined space you have on headboard? I can't agree with this as a decorating decision. It's too much headboard. Yeah. It's so big. It's like that carpeted headboard, you know, that's like meant to, it's meant to be the sort of thing you can lay up against without the need for a pillow or whatever like to read a book.

I don't think they're using that for book reading, man. I think, I think they're knocking it out with that headboard. You think it's an accommodator headboard? I think it's absolutely an accommodator. Amazing. I suppose if you're Paris, you, you really need the pelvis up in a way that you can observe all four holes.

You can really need to figure it out. Yeah. You need four itty-bitty book lights and a headboard like that to know what you're doing. Yeah. Complicated job of spelunking down there. I'm sorry. It's a lot to take in all at once. I mean, BLT is disturbed,

but Paris is not fully concerned about her at the moment. Like, tomorrow's the date of the procedure, the spine fixing procedure. Doesn't seem like there's a lot to worry about, but like every surgery is serious, I guess no matter what century you're in. So she's preoccupied. Yeah, and I think you can probably,

I mean, when you've got out of town guests coming, sometimes you can find yourself just lost in thought, thinking about, what's it gonna be like? What's this gonna mean? There's a quality to having guests from out of town visit where you just need to be open to the mystery of it too. Like you can't try to force it into being a thing. It's just gonna be the thing that it is.

Right, in many ways it's gonna show you what kind of thing it is. Yeah, we get a flashback here. This is not a dream. I think that's important, even though it's a scene of bed rest. We're back at that camping trip, and there's young BLT, and there's your dad,

and she wants to go fishing with her dad and her dad's brother. She does not want to go hiking with the other kids because she thinks that the other kids don't like her. Well, it's either Dan or she's worried she's gonna kick one of them out. I think there's got to be rules about Klingon kids hanging out with human kids where like sports are not on the table. They have to have their own league, right? Once you kick your friend's head off, there's no going back from that. How badly did you want that to be the story here?

So profoundly badly. Basically, we're at the half mark of the episode and I'm disappointed from here on. Yeah. Yeah, they don't make a lot of BLT's .5x strength, you know, by being half-kling on. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe what's so terrifying about her strength is that she wouldn't kick the head off. She would just like grotesquely meme it. Like she'd kick and just fucking cave that thing in.

Like a flattened soccer ball. Yeah, cousin Dean is gonna survive, but what kind of life is he gonna live? I mean, the thing that no one says, but you know they're thinking it is like, it probably would have been better if the head flew off. probably would have been better if the head flew off. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No! So, the next morning, Paris is making peanut butter sandwiches for breakfast for some reason.

This is my breakfast, peanut butter toast. Oh yeah, like an open-faced peanut butter sandwich? Oh yeah, love it. Four days out of five, peanut butter toast. Amazing, love it. Put a fried egg on that or? Not on peanut butter. So she's like heading out the door for the procedure and they get in sort of a like, are you also coming Tom chicken game that results in Tom letting her go solo, which I think is a huge, I think this is the original sin

Tom Paris makes in this episode. I had two competing thoughts about this choice Paris makes. One is you got to feel obligated to go to this and you got to go right through the defenses in order to do it, but also, if you don't go to this, you've set up an expectation that maybe you don't go to all the things. Yeah. Maybe that's just how it is between you two.

And I like that a lot because if he goes to this, the expectation is he's going to do it all. Yeah, I went to it all. I went to every single one. I don't think that surprises anyone. I've got to get that latinum. Put your latinum where your mouth is. But I've got to get that latinum.

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I'm giving you an order. I'm giving in. You have just crossed the line. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving in, you have just crossed the line. BLT gets to Six Bay and Dr. Mark is bragging on how he's loaded a bunch of obstetrics and pediatrics information into his database. And Ensign Wildman is actually in Six Bay, off in the corner, and you can just see a Dixon-Ticonderoga snap in her fist when she hears this.

You did it for her? Yeah, it kind of feels like sort of that quality where parents say that they doed over the first and kind of let the second do whatever. This is sort of the opposite of that in doctoring. Yeah, no kidding. He's got all these things planned for, you know, a Lamaze class and

parenting seminars and all these things. And this is all stuff that he's telling her about as he gets her ready for her procedure, which we don't get to see. Instead, we get another flashback and this is the one where where Dean puts a worm on young BLT's sandwich. Tries to make her eat a peanut butter and gach sandwich. Fucking Dean, man, he's always doing this. Yeah. This is the thing about like little kids who torture worms. Gotta keep an eye on Dean, I think.

Yeah. From now on. He grew up to be the head of academics and student performance at a college. Damn. Yeah. That's tough. Sick, sick shit.

Back in Six Bay, even though the procedure was performed in almost total darkness, which as a patient, I wouldn't prefer that. You could tell me that it's just better for the mood. I don't like that one bit. Yeah, why'd you put on Marvin Gaye? What's that about? Great success is this procedure.

Yeah, but next stop is that hollow lab. And BLT fires up that image of their unborn baby. And then starts like making modifications. She like has the computer project to 12 years old. And then she starts doing like Gattica to get the ridges off of this baby's head. I could have lived in this scene for another five minutes. Yeah. Show me like the alien resurrection versions

of the daughter. Like she makes a mistake genetically and she's like, oh, oh God. Wait, wait, wait, put that one back. Yeah, I did want to see horror show child. I also, you always want horror show child to say kill me. You do, you really do. What would this kid look like without a stupid haircut?

Can we see that version, computer? That'd be nice. BLT, even though the child as depicted is not grotesque, BLT can barely look at her until she starts deleting some genes. And the tinkering finally gets her to a point where the daughter does not have forehead ridges. Now this is a daughter she can look at. Yeah. a blonde. And so she takes this information to Mark

who is really pissed about this idea. It's kind of weird that her version of genetic perfection is blonde and blue-eyed. Yeah. Yikes, Star Trek. I was kind of surprised that no discussion at all came up in this episode of like the rules inside the Federation of not messing with your kids genetically. Like did Dr. Bashir like make a precedent that that's not an issue anymore or something? I mean, who's going to know?

Is there all the way out there? Yeah, I guess so. And if you can reprogram the doctor. Can you reprogram him or something? Who fucking cares? Yeah, so if doctor says no, ask dad. And she goes and talks to Paris about it. And it's another big, big argument.

And it's a total non-starter for Paris. Like he is saying, like, I love you the way you are. And I want our kid to look like you because that's the person I love and like stripping all your genetics out is no good. And then we smash cut to the ready room where they've sort of made Janeway into the ship's couples counselor.

Since the days of the first wooden vessels ban, all shipmasters have had one happy privilege. That of genetically modifying the unborn children of two people they've united in the bonds of matrimony. She does not relish this. I'm not exactly sure what you want me to do. Lawyer BLT whips out some interesting precedents on the captain, namely that she did the same thing to seven when seven came aboard. Yeah, not the same.

Is her argument? Yeah, and Paris' argument. She cannot nope out of this fast enough. Yeah, she's sort of, it's like the Supreme Court declining to hear a case, you know? Yeah. You two need to work this out. I love that just left hanging at the end of this scene.

And then the next scene is Tom showing up at Harry is like, can I sleep on your couch, bro? Unspoken, but I think inferred this season is Kim's instrument changed to the alto sax. Yeah. What's that about? I mean, I also switched from clarinet to alto sax. I think this is the woodwind progression that you go through from middle school to high

school, but I wonder what happened. I mean, the alto sax seems to be a sexier instrument. Oh, sure. So, maybe he's just, you know, he doesn't want to be a sexier instrument. Oh, sure. So maybe he's just, you know, he doesn't want to play with a handicap anymore. Yeah. Yeah. The ladies. This appears to be a thing that's happened many times before, like, Paris has a go bag.

Harry Kim does have the sheets that fit his couch. And boy, you really need to use those sheets on Harry Kim's couch because if you didn't, that thing is going to look like nuclear waste under a blacklight, right? He was stating the obvious again. Yeah, so they get him set up and I like the conversation. I liked Harry Kim's advice of like, hey, maybe if you had a conversation with her about this in a way that validates all of the things she's feeling and doesn't put her on the defensive immediately,

she'd be willing to hear your side of things. It's like, like I'm gonna do that. The woman that bought me a tube television so I could watch my old shows, no way. that bought me a tube television so I could watch my old shows no way. I'm glad that this episode didn't lean fully into like Paris is a classic man. Tin man. You know, who likes classic things, including classic male opinions and a classic male pattern of argument. Like I think this episode makes the case that, you know, Tom Paris is trying,

and he has a great sense of compassion. And I think the episode chooses aside pretty much throughout, and it makes BLT seem pretty unreasonable in how she's acting for a long, long, long portion of this episode. Yeah, not necessarily unreasonable, but another shoe has yet to drop with BLT. Right, yeah.

That being said, Adam, like if in the run up to your out of town guests coming, if anything comes up where you need to crash on my couch over here, you know, my couch is your couch. It's like the more I think about it, there's a not insignificant part of me that is like not ready for this. Yeah.

And I kind of just want to cancel the whole thing. Yeah, but that's a two-person decision and it's really just a one-person decision and you're not that person. And you know, like I think that there's something really powerful about surrendering to the fact that after Your guests arrive your life will never be the same Yeah, I don't know if I'm ready for that kind of surrender

So is it another like BLT getting into bed and it's a flashback and not a dream which I think I was confused both times I'm like is she dreaming this nope like we come back and she's still flashback and not a dream, which I think I was confused both times. I'm like, is she dreaming this? Nope, like we come back and she's still in her bed awake. But don't you prefer the lack of embellishment here? Like I'm glad there's not like a blinding white flash of light and a sound effect and like a music bed or whatever, like I don't need any of that.

These are not magic flashbacks. They are just regular ass human memories. This isn't a spirit quest. Three quarter human memory, half human memories. Fuck. Oh no. But this is kind of the long one. This is where we find out what is really eaten BLT.

Ha. She's like run off into the woods and her dad and uncle come back and are looking for her. She comes back and her cousins kind of fess up. They admit to what they did. And then later that night, her dad tells her like, you got to just let this stuff run off your back and not be so sensitive about racism. And she's like, easy for you to say dad. And then later still, dad is like sitting at the campfire drinking beers with his brother. And she is overhearing him just like vent to his brother about how hard raising a young half Klingon is and how their mom predicted that he wouldn't be up to living with a klingon

and now he lives with two. You gotta do better if you're the dad here about maybe taking this conversation down to the river away from the campsite. Let's go do a night fish or something. Yeah. Don't do this with an earshot of a tent. A tent doesn't block sound.

Is this how BLT was radicalized into the Mayquiz? Mayquiz? You can see it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, between how little the John Snores story moves the needle and the over here. He's in an unrecoverable kind of dad spin. Don't like it. Yeah, Unforced Error by John Torres. I know you don't want to do it. Coffee black. Make it yourself.

I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. The next morning BLT is at work and Chacote grams her to go get coffee. They run into time in the hallway and Chacote. Chacote knows when to get the fuck out. God, Chacote is such a bro. Yeah. He's the best.

He's had a good run of episodes. He really has. After being largely ignored for the last couple of seasons, I feel like he's finishing strong here. Chacote's back, baby! He's back! Yeah, he goes to get a pad and a little awkward interaction between Tom and BLT, who spent the night apart.

We learn that Harry is a hot room sleeper. I just can't get with this. Yeah. This fundamentally changes how I feel about Harry Kim. I know man. Like I thought he was the person I admired most. Now, this? He's got a saxophone out in the open with warm spit in it. Just in his room.

Yeah. You think that couch sleeps warm also? I think it does. Yeah, that looks like, I mean, it's not gonna breathe, the fabric is impregnated with protein. Yeah. Do not like knowing that.

So they get called to sex bay before they even make it to breakfast. Turns out Mark has had a change of heart. He's looked over the genetic alterations that BLT has proposed. And not only can they happen, they must happen because otherwise degradation, the kid wouldn't be viable.

This is a really good depiction of a patient Otherwise, degradation, the kid wouldn't be viable. This is a really good depiction of a patient getting a second opinion. Even in the 24th century, Paris is like, huh, interesting. I don't know much about this shit. Yeah. I'm a pilot. So he takes the doctor's prognosis over to the ass lab for seven and Egypt to look at. And he's like,

Hey, Egypt! Can you look at this? Oh, hey, Egypt brother. Hey, Egypt. Egypt clocks the problem right away. Yeah. He's on this. Because his people know everything about genetics. And so, yeah, he's like, this dude didn't carry the one.

All of this math is fucked up. Something's wrong here. Yeah. Each of like turns over the pad and is like, yeah, if you go through with these genetic modifications, this is what your daughter's gonna look like. And the pads turned away from camera and all you see is Paris's react.

This is B. Dunks' best moment here. And you just hear from the pad, kill me. So they got to get to six bay. They got to get on top of this because BLT's not picking up the phone. This feels dangerous. Like right now, the mood change in this episode, it kind of gave me chills.

Yeah, there is like a real horror element. Like she went into the code of the doctor and changed him to do something that she wanted him to do. That subtle touch of making the procedure done in low light, I think also creeps out the whole scene. Yeah, it gives it a real schizomed vibe. Yeah, yeah. Computer dim lights.

Six Bay has been cut off from the rest of the ship and they have to force the door and stuff. I love the suction cup door prop that they've used for like decades in Star Trek. Yeah. Give me that once a season. Yeah. BLT is wild for this one and they put a stop to this procedure. You know, the doctors shut off and the security guys give the squabbling couple a moment. This is where things really come to a head

and she kind of spills about what happened on this camping trip and how having heard the stuff that her dad said to her uncle after they thought she'd gone to sleep, she told her dad, maybe you'd be happier living somewhere else. And he actually took that advice and acted on it and moved out and she never heard from him again. He went out for a pack of Klingon cigarettes.

Do those have two filters or how does that work? The lung cancer picture warning on the pack are like three diseased lungs. You actually have to like fold it out like wallet-sized photographs. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting cause like she tells this story and it does take a few beats for Paris to like do the math

on she is assuming that history is going to repeat itself and that this daughter will have the same horrible experience being treated badly by other children and then Tom Paris will leave her. And I love the bit that Paris does here because he takes a like a manila envelope and reaches into it and he says, well, what the results I have here say is I am not your father. And BLT just runs around six-way going. Woo! Yeah! Woo! You got to remember like in the late 90s, this is how announcements like this took place.

It changes the mood when she realizes he's not her father. I think B-Dunks and Roxanne Dawson do so much more here than what's on the page. Yeah. And I think very specifically, like the beginning of this scene, I resisted wanting to go along with them on whatever it was that they were doing. Like, it felt to me in the beginning of the scene, what BLT was doing was dangerous and hard to forgive. Mm, yeah.

And most definitely puts their relationship in jeopardy. And what they were able to do is act through a scene that made it plausible, believable, and acceptable for them to reconcile by the end of it. And I could not have predicted that because I felt like the whole BLT Doug was way too deep. Yeah, I think- Like you could bury a 12 year old,

quarter Klingon, three quarter human child in it. No, I think you make a good point. Like I think it's really well written, but I think it's superlative acting, because like it's what you want at this point in an episode, like how are they going to get out of this one? But it's so rare in Star Trek for that to just be an interpersonal conundrum between two characters. It's like barely a science fiction problem in

this story. I mean, like, they put some some fun science fiction clothes on this, but ultimately, this is a story about a character who has a really deep conflict about her mixed heritage and is acting irrationally to try and forestall the kind of pain she experienced as a child from splashing over onto her own child and that causing a giant rift in her present day relationship. And I think it's super relatable and super well executed. I think one of the things Paris does here, which I think is

instructive for anyone in a relationship really, and this is a mistake I make too often. I can be the sort of arguer that like is so rational. Like I can't get on the emotional page of the person I'm in an argument with. And that can be really irritating to the person that I'm arguing with, who wants to argue in emotional territory using emotional terms. And when Paris sees that that is the ground that BLT is covering, does not choose to say like,

look, I can't promise it'll be forever because that's a crazy promise to make. The way a rational person would be thinking, instead he promises baby, baby, I'm gonna be there forever for you, in the way that I think you have to. Yeah, yeah. Good job, Paris.

Yeah. Good job, Paris. Yeah. Good job, BLT. We get a EMH's log. Mark is real happy to be back to Norm Z's. BLT comes around to apologize for messing with his program. Not sufficient, BLT. Didn't you want someone to not forgive her yeah like she really fucked a lot of things up I love the way he takes this he's like I don't know what I did To deserve your disrespect And she's like hey that gives me a great idea. I wonder if you'd like to be her godfather Wow That's great, man Did you like the episode Adam?

You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullies, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I'm a mystery. I found this episode deeply uncomfortable. Well, because you're going through it right now, you got out of town guests coming. At some points in this episode, not enjoyable. And I think it's because you don't often see Star Trek go this hard with two characters

going hard at each other. Yeah. Like there's a lot of superficial arguing in Star Trek, but this one really goes deep. And, you know, out of one side of my mouth, I was like, I really praised how the episode came to its climax and resolution in that scene at the end because it was so well performed. But it's really hard to forgive what BLT did.

And even though Paris and like to a separate and different degree, Dr. Mark do forgive BLT, I don't know if I could forgive. What is basically like kidnapping and mutilation on the table here. Like that's really tough. And it's a magic trick this episode performs to sort of be like forgive and forget and move on. But like this is one of those episodes that does not conform to real life in a way

that is plausible or believable. Like this is a satisfying science fiction show ending because that's sort of the way it has to be, but yeah, really complicated stuff in this one. And it's weird that they did this episode after Roxanne Dawson had been pregnant and had already given birth. Like, if they go through with...

I haven't seen the end of the season, but like, if she shows pregnancy and stuff, like, man, I wonder what that would have felt like to do this episode while pregnant. And I wonder how it felt after being a mother to do this for Roxanne Dawson. Like what a unique challenge for a performer in this case. Totally. Yeah.

That's what I thought. What about you? I think you made some really great points just there. And yeah, I definitely thought more than once in this scene, like, yeah, whatever, just pull out the engineering smock. You've been through this before. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know what we have in store.

I don't remember season seven very well at all. So I'm curious to see what happens as we go through this. Like they did not write the pregnancy to an end at the end of this episode. Yeah. So it's going to be a going concern. And I'm excited to see what that leads to. Well, the end of a greatest gen episode leads

to the priority one message has been. You wanna see what we got about to burst over there? Mm-hmm. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel. Need a supplemental link? Supplement. Supplement. Supplement.

Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship. And if we got a priority one message here, and it's from Andrew, it's to you and me. Goes like this. I'm still upset you went to the UK and not Ireland. We're right next door and way cooler. Also, I was living in Kenya when Ben was there and he didn't even say hello. Wow.

Despite all these personal slights, thank you for the many hours of quality pod. Here are some scarves. Africa drop! Then gets the call very late at night. His wife hears only whispers of some quiet conversation. He's coming in twelve thirty flights, status upgrade into a lay flat seat for sleep salvation. He clears customs with a carnail, hoping to film some fun exotic worlds to eat the rawest meat He returns and cannot wait to say Boy oh boy I've got stories for you

It doesn't take a lot to keep it telling you There's nothing better than love more than to tell you. It's gonna talk about Africa. It's gonna take some time to tell you things you never had. Wow. Dang. Calling your shot on the Africa drop is pretty legendary. It was by Andrew. I was hoping to one day update the Africa drop for another

Africa trip you might have taken. That opportunity had not presented itself. We even went to Ethiopian food for dinner not that long ago. I had thought that stories of that evening would make the show sufficient to update the drop. That didn't happen. Didn't happen, yeah. The last time I was in the motherland, it was for the wedding of a dear friend of mine, but now that he's married,

I'm not sure I'm gonna have another excuse anytime soon. But boy, I'd love to go back. I wanna go to Malindi. It's this like beach community in Kenya that has like tons of Italians living in it and apparently some of the best Italian food in the world. How about that? Available in Malindi, Kenya

and it's like just paradise on earth also on top of that. I want to go to Ireland. Yeah, Ireland is cool. Did we make a huge mistake according to Andrew we did? I asked our booking agent to get us a show in Ireland and he checked with the home office of his agency in London and they said don't go to Ireland. So this is another time that the English fucked the Irish over in a long line of times. So I think our beef is really with the English.

There are some hard and fast rules to live podcasting. And many of them don't really apply to great-gen or greatest trek. I feel like killing in London was something that neither of us saw happening. We absolutely destroyed there to a sold-out room that ruled. Don't-do-shows in LA seems to actually be true. Like, that's a very difficult room to fill most of the time. That tracks, yeah. I mean, we do well with the rooms that we book, but we have to book smaller rooms relative to,

like, the size of our audience in LA than basically any other city I wonder which column Ireland is in is Ireland a real live podcast rule or is it fake? I Want to go I want to go back to Dublin. Yeah, me too. Did my study abroad there in college. I miss Dublin terribly I want to go I don't think they have that there. That's Scotland only. Oh, okay. All right.

Yeah. Just fly with my clubs out there to do nothing. Yeah. Well, Andrew, if we can make it up to you with a nice long P1, I hope that works out. Oh, yeah. Our next priority one message is from Mariah, Kate and Tee, whose favorite show is obviously Star Trek, and it is to Allie in the Mouth Six Bay. It goes like this. On this, the occasion of your fourth decade, the Venn diagram of friends who love you, which is a circle, along with the portion of the Venn diagram

who loves this pod, T being absent, want to wish you a happy birthday and the best Pricosby voice and that a pen can manage. Wow. Even when you are in a weakened state, the love we have for you is always strong. The geometry on this joke. I'm really trying to make that.

Ali, how can you be in the mouth, Six May, when Dr. Huxtable is an obstetrician, which is appropriate for this episode? Even though doing the Pocospy voice is not appropriate. for this episode. Even though doing the Pocosme voice is not appropriate. It's always funny to do the Pocosme voice. And you also share a birthday with Rudy. Alright, well if you'd like to, uh to Pimp us into potentially getting canceled

Maximumfun.org slash Jumbotron and get yourself a P1 today. Yeah do it today They go a long way in supporting the production of the show Hey, Ben. What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I think I'm gonna have to give it to BLT for scrambling the doctor's egg into doing the procedure despite everyone ordering her not to. I mean, that's like Edward Larkinny. Yeah, it is. I think when you are hearing from everyone around you that the course of action you are advocating for

is no bueno. You gotta like give some serious consideration to what if they're right? And yeah, messing with a friend's head in spite of that feels like a really, really wild choice for BLT to make. So I think she's my drunk Shimoda today. Yeah. How about you?

I mean, the most surprising choice made in the episode is Paris forgiving and not leaving BLT at the end. So it's kind of a dark Shimoda. Yeah. I think Paris is gonna be it for me for that reason. Wow. Dark Shimoda. Well, it's time for us to figure out what we're going to be doing next week.

Of course, it'll be season seven episode 13, repentance. The issue of capital punishment divides the crew when Voyager agrees to transport condemned prisoners to their deaths. Can't believe they would agree to do something like that. It's just a beat for beat con-air episode of Voyager. How great would that be? Oh man, sign me up. Yeah.

All right, I'm at gach.biz slash game where we keep the game of buttholes. Looks like there's a couple of things we could hit. We could hit a caretaker square which randomizes where we are on the board. We could also hit a Coco Nono Square. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.

I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bone and see what we got in store. Adam, I rolled a four. Tula! Did I win? Hardly. We landed on Square 13, jumping both of those regular episode next week amazing

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