The Greatest Generation - Hot Tiki Drinks (VOY S7E16)

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

When most of the crew finds gainful employment on a planet with great public transportation, everyone seems to enjoy their new jobs, though no one can remember how they got there. But when Commander M...ark and his minions track down the missing crew, their behavior gets creepy and with no memory of Voyager, their suspicions are hard to overcome. Does the UK have its own meat nectar? What’s the fallen samurai hair of establishing shots? Who deserves a raise at the flirt factory? It’s the episode that spared us the stabby stuff!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your back, Shogunan Luke. I'm Captain Cap, bringing what the U.S. has for the future. I'm Captain Cap, bringing what the U.S. has for the future. I'm Captain Cap. Welcome to The Greatest Generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranicka. How you doing today, Adam? Oh man, I couldn't be better. I just love being on video. Ha ha ha. As lapsed videographers ourselves, it is pretty annoying learning a whole new way
Starting point is 00:00:41 of making video. This like, the discipline of making a video for the internet a different thing than the discipline of making a video for the intranet of a company. Look at us stay in current on technologies. I didn't think I'd have to do that anymore. If you're just listening to this, we're talking about video because we're gonna be opening some things sent in by Friends of DeSoto.
Starting point is 00:01:08 This is a Code 47 episode. Push the button! Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a Code 47. Verify. It is Code 47, sir. Start lead emergency frequency. Captain's eyes only.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Is that referring to bubble craps? There's like a button that uh that will be pushed and then the little opening Audio package will play. Oh, that's great. Yeah, and the video when you're watching it on YouTube It includes video. Why would you refer to bubble craps? That would be a big surprise for me You were just in Vegas. I was. I know that you were gambling on a sport, but did you gamble on anything else? Oh yeah, I did a bunch of gambling yesterday. I had a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Daytrip to Vegas is one of the great parts of living in LA. Well, it used to be a gamble opening listener mail on this show, but there's no more. We got a bunch of things here. First thing, just a letter. It is from House Ryan S. Chaotic Manor, Gainesville, Florida. Chaotic Manor is in like the name of the home? Yeah, like Wayne Manor, spelling of Manor. I like that. I think you can leave the chaotic modifier off of any domicile in Florida, right?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Sure. Well, we'll just assume. Uh-huh. Alright, I'm opening this letter. Uh, this is just a holiday card from Ryan S's family. Ahoy, shipmates. Thank you for all the laughs and also for modeling wholesome masculinity.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Y'all rock, L-L-A-P, Mike. You said that was a card from their family, I'm gonna assume. I'm not asking you to do this, but on the flip side, is there like a family photograph, like posed outside of a stoop? There's like a selfie on a stoop and like a beach photo and this is either a Halloween costume on a kiddo
Starting point is 00:03:10 or maybe like something a kiddo wore for a school play. I'm also just baffled that it was Ryan that sent it, but Mike that signed it. So I don't know. Huh. Maybe there was an argument. Yeah. So I don't know huh Maybe there was an argument. Yeah This next one is from M Brewer in Dulles, Virginia. It's to you and me
Starting point is 00:03:35 There's one for you and one for me any pictures yet So far no pictures. Okay, but I will point out a little embossed Logo on the back there. I like that. This is from the capital complex. Ooh. Wow, look how a fish that looks. No way. Like we're either in a lot of trouble
Starting point is 00:03:56 or we have friends in high places. Did you leave something behind on your tour? They're trying to track you down of the lost and found. This is from the office of found. Ha ha ha. This is from the office of the ambassador. Uh huh. Presumably not Nealix. I've been expecting this.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Dear Ben and Adam, thank you for the many hours of entertainment over the past several years. I've been a listener since the early days. I'm grateful for your jokes, high quality pod, and insights as industry professionals. I thought you might get a kick out of the challenge coins from my corner of the world, the mountain kingdom of Lesoto. Lesoto.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I can't use my official title in non-official ways. So let's say I'm the sham basseter. Ha ha ha. I don't get to the US often, but I hope to catch a live show in DC one day. Thank you and Lollip warm regards M Brewer And I'm leaving I'm abbreviating the first name because I can't read it
Starting point is 00:04:53 Got a lot of doctors writing in lately PS I love when Ben's gonna talk about Africa me too. I've never been to Lizoto, but I would love to go about Africa. Me too. I've never been to Lizoto but I would love to go. Lasso too. What the Shambassiter has sent us Adam is a challenge coin of the US Embassy in Masseroo. Pretty great.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Pazopula Nala and yeah that's from the US Department of States got a US Department of State seal on the back. They say Shambassiter I say ShamWow at And yeah, that's from the US Department of State. It's got a US Department of State seal on the back. They say, Sham Bacider. I say, Sham Wow at that coin. That's great. This is one of the coolest ones we've ever gotten.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Thank you so much, Embrewer. I can't believe we got something on ambassadorial letterhead. Look at this. That's real. That's not from, like, you know, the bedside stand in a hotel room or anything. I'm not jaded at all. I fully expected to see that at some point. Wow. I'm amazed. Okay, Adam, we're getting into boxes. This one is from Steven B. in Brooklyn, New York.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So if we're in the boxes, that means chances are nothing with a check or cash is left, right? You could put cash in a box. I've seen it happen. Especially in New York. There's like Nike shoebox full of cash economies all over the city of New York. All right. Fingers crossed.
Starting point is 00:06:25 None of these packages were sent in Nike shoeboxes, unfortunately. Ah! Alright, what I got here is a letter. It starts with, Gross Stronger Through the Sharing. Dear Ben and Adam, I had just about given up on sending this. I first reached out to Bill with this a while back, but then my life got sidetracked by some family issues and this fell to the side. In that same time, someone gave you one of these, which took the wind out of my sails and the longer I didn't send this, the more embarrassed I became
Starting point is 00:06:53 about how long it was taking me to send it. And I was about to say fuck it, but then, then I heard friend of the show, Sir Patrick Stewart slashwart.com. Slash, peace, Stu. Slash, Dale, PipesActual. Give that warm, delightful introduction for episode 500. My heart swelled for you guys. You've built something special here, and I'm glad to have been along for the ride since vetoes were a thing. So, embarrassment and delays be damned.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Here is a tiny, dangerous thank you from one of the Miriam FODs who have found joy, comfort, and community through your special blend of insightful and analysis and the finest dick and fart jokes this side of the polar region. Mind your bones boys! I crocheted you a moopsy! Probably best to keep it separate from the one you got in Seattle. For real though, I'm grateful for all you've done. You, Bill, Wendy, and the entire Uxbridge-Shermota family of podcasts have given me a soft, comfortable, and reliably funny place to run during some deeply
Starting point is 00:07:51 stressful times, including the pandemic, and a career change from corporate stooge to emergency room nurse here in Brooklyn. Wow. Please believe we do so much more than provide. Anyway, let me get out of the way of the rest of this Marin. Thanks for everything. Stephen, PS, shout out to the designer of this moopsie crochet pattern and possible FOD, Jenny Frencham. PPS, I sent the ropes simply because they
Starting point is 00:08:18 exist. They do not seem to make them in pineapple. So, Stephen has indeed crocheted us a moopsie. Oh, they look great. And then also we've received some sweet tarts, ropes, cherry punch flavor. Yeah, it does not seem, based on the diagram on the back, does not seem like they offer these in a pineapple Baritle. Well, what good are they? I've never heard of these sweet tarts ropes. I've heard of nerve ropes Which I mean nerd ropes is basically you and I produce right you've known nerd ropes since puberty I'm gonna enjoy these later. I'm taking them to Dungeons and Dragons tonight. I'm not sharing them with Adam.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Do it. That's the plan. Great plan. Okay. Next box is from Nicole Kay out of Quincy, MA. Hey, it's you and me. Fun. I hope I pronounced that within shooting distance of the actual pronunciation. I know that, uh... I know that locals are particular. It's not Quincy Ma. Ma! Ma!
Starting point is 00:09:32 Alright, we got a card. Hi, Darwin. Check this out on YouTube and you can see my... my loyal pup, Darwin. Okay. You're my number one podcast. And it's an image of Riker doing the Riker maneuver and holding up a rose. Goes like this, I was a Star Trek virgin at the start
Starting point is 00:09:52 of COVID, but have now devoured every episode and movie, a pile of comic books, cosplay opportunities, Freaks, meet and greets and more. Your pods and live shows have been a highlight. I also never miss a chance to craft something Trek. Please enjoy the enclosed tiny crafts that I had hoped to hand to you at the Boston show. Good for hiding tiny messes like a cord on a desk. Hope to hoof with you in Vegas one day, LLAP, Nicole, and begrudgingly, Kevin,
Starting point is 00:10:27 who you told me to leave in a P1. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So I guess the universe wanted you to have them PPS sorry for the outer box PPS Ben sorry for the inner box Wow their house flooded after the show yeah but but the the crafts were okay huh I mean I know we tend to flood basements during the show this is the inner box. Wow. Very cool. Oh, I see why. An apology. A tiny gift for my personal besties.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Sorry for triggering the voice, Ben. Great. But this was the box that best fit, so it was unavoidable. I love it when you do the voice. I love it when you do the voice. I hate it when I do the voice. What a delight. So these are little tryptics of our Science Blue or Command Red and our Engineering slash Security Gold.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You know what they look like. They look rad. Like they got little uh... There's a couple of them. Little gizzes on them. Yeah. There's a little leatherette on the back. You can set it on your desk.
Starting point is 00:11:47 They are beautiful. Hand-painted. Amazing. Wow. Then I walked by a purple zebra yesterday during my day trip to Vegas. Oh, no kidding. And guess what? What?
Starting point is 00:12:01 They did not have hooves. They just had the long hourglass shaped Yardo daquiri or whatever they didn't have the hooves there And I'm wondering if maybe the Rio is the only place that does I don't know it perplexes me so much that that's not the most popular chain in Vegas Yeah, I know even that you get a purple zebra a full of in Vegas. Yeah, I know. Given that you get a purple zebra full of slurricane or similar. There is nothing on a zebra that is that shape, right? The giant bell at the bottom, a thinner shaft, and then a giant bell at the top.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I mean that is a crazy zebra crank, if that's the part, right? I've never laid eyes on Crank of Zebra, and I hope to go to my grave with that fact intact. We gotta get you watching more Planet Earth documentaries. Gotta learn the truth. Attenborough's definitely got a good idea of what Zebra Crank looks like, right? How does Zebra Crank Truth or Ben, I'm gonna get you on my side by the time it's all over Do you think they're also stripy on their on their wangs? Absolutely. Yeah I bet you want stripes
Starting point is 00:13:17 perpendicular Right to make it look long thick. Yeah Yeah, I mean, it's also just confusing to the eye, you know, like when they painted ships with like big, you know, splotches of black and white and called it razzle-dazzle. Yeah. Because it would confuse submariners as to how big of a situation they were looking at. You know, the only moment where like disrobing and saying razzle-dazzle actually works, is if you got that paint job on your crank.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Get the razzle-dazzle paint job or get it tattooed, you know? And if you do, don't send us pictures. We'll just take your word for it. I will believe you, every time. All right, we got one last package here. Okay. And I know there's probably a million more at the PO box. I just haven't been over there in a minute.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It's why we always say don't send meat products. Right. This has a customs declaration on the outside. It's from Bridget in Birmingham, UK. Hey, cool. Came all the way from over there to over here. Cross the pond? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Cross the pond. Get it open, see what's inside. Wow, we have a wax sealed letter here. That's the law over there, right? Isn't that how you have to send them? Yeah, I wonder if this is like, if there's a signet ring for this, or if it's one of those like cylindrical things for making the stamp.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Ben, I hope you take this as a compliment, but I really feel like you are wax envelope guy. Like... Like from your household, I feel like that's how you send your bills. I mean if I didn't do it mostly online, I do like that idea. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be so cool. I almost feel like it's a crime to break this seal, but I'm going to have to to read the
Starting point is 00:15:14 letter. Uh-oh, Ben. I saw a mattress tag on there too. You can't rip that off. All right. Dear Ben and Adam, I hope this letter finds you both well. I don't know if this has bowels aside or bowls aside. Let's go with the first one.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Ben, let me assure you that you did nothing wrong. Thank you. With that out of the way, you may remember meeting an awkward woman in London who made a replica of the text of The Coast Emojian, which is the book from DS9. That book sends Ducat blind and gives him red eyes in the last episode. Adam, you may remember a fugue state in which people spoke with funny accents. Anyway, I said that I would code 47 the book so you didn't have to pack it. I didn't fill the book partly so that it would be usable and not just a bad bit that
Starting point is 00:16:11 takes up space, and partly because I'm not as funny as you two. The cover is real leather and the stitching is cotton, so the book is 100% biodegradable. Yes, thank you. Please keep sending in biodegradable things, friends of DeSoto. That's the second most important thing you can send after making your first sentence something along the lines of Ben did nothing wrong. In whatever correspondence you provide. I mentioned this so you know how to dispose of it once you are tired of having a physical bad bit. I assume that will be immediately after you are done fighting over who has to have it
Starting point is 00:16:49 in their home. I'll finish by saying that I really enjoyed the show in London and to thank you for bringing together such a wonderful community. Live long and prosper. Bridget M. Wow, thank you Bridget. That was a really fun show we did at London Podcast Festival. Just amazing. Yeah, it helped to bring us back.
Starting point is 00:17:09 So this is the crafted Bajoran holy text of the Coast Emojian. And I'll show you some of the pages. Wow. First page is obviously lovingly copied from probably a paused standard definition depiction of this book in Deep Space Nine. Amazing. But there are a number of bits on subsequent pages. For example, a drawing of Deep V Picard off work saying, Oh Wesley, I have been meaning to ask, do you like gladiator movies? We've got depictions of Saru and his gross fingers. How many pages do we have there?
Starting point is 00:17:56 That is an amazing bit of work. There are a number. Wow. I'll show the thing that will get us kicked off of YouTube. Hmm. Extraordinary. Da Vinci's, uh, what's that called? The something something man?
Starting point is 00:18:12 The jack-off man? Haha! It's Sato! Is it the Vitruvian man? I think it might be that. Anyways, he's holding a eight inch classic dong in this one. Perfect. Yeah. And a butt plug.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Depending on what you like to insert, there's some great stuff here. Hey, there's even stuff for Star Wars nerds in this book. Even they have something. The Paw Rates were getting up to all kinds of fucked up shit. Sure it was. This is so great. Thank you, Bridget, for sending this in. I love that. I love how. This is so great. Thank you Bridget for sending this in. I love that.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I love how much work went into that. All that detail. Yeah. Amazing. I'll try and take some pictures of some of the pages and send them to Bill for our Instagram too. Oh yeah, FODs would love to see that. Yeah, if you like listening to this, you might like watching it, and you might like following
Starting point is 00:19:04 us on Insta to see even more detail. So, thanks to everybody who sent something in. Why don't we get into a great big package of episode that we have today, Adam. It's the first part of a two-parter with Brian Fuller's hands all over it. How about that? Yeah, this is season seven, episode 16, Workforce, part one. Reverse course.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. You know what I like in A Vision of the Future? Excellent public transit, Adam. Yeah. This city's got it. Is this a monorail? You like a monorail?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Oh man, I would definitely invest the town surplus in a monorail if given the opportunity. Well, wouldn't it benefit the job creators if there were such a conveyance taking folks to work? It seems to be like work is on one side of the river and I don't know, future city is on the other side. Yeah. Like, why don't we make it a little bit easier on folks?
Starting point is 00:20:20 That seems great. You know, I'm looking at it a little closer here. I think it might be a maglev. Now, that is a type of train that I have always wanted to go on. Yeah, that's the future right there. Type of train that wipes your credit cards clean, baby. Spick and span. It seems like the sort of place from the wide shot anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That looks pretty cool. It looks great. We punch in on a Janeway who's like on her way to work. And I think her hair does a lot of the business here in telling us, the viewer, that she's happy and she's gonna be okay. Her hair is as bouncy as her mood. She looks like someone who like took some time
Starting point is 00:21:04 to get ready for whatever this is and is into it. Yeah, like a little bit stressed maybe. Like she's moving with purpose, like she's got to get there. But like happy stress, doesn't it look like that? Yeah, I mean first day at work is usually happy stress, right? It's like, God, thank goodness I landed this gig. is usually happy stressed, right? It's like, God, thank goodness I landed this gig. I'm glad to be making a little bit of extra money, nervous about meeting my team and starting to get set up with my new laptop and being taught all the company internet bullshit.
Starting point is 00:21:37 She seems to have a supervisor with a heart, seems pretty chill, seems pretty motivated to keep the workers happy. You like, seems pretty motivated to keep the workers happy, you like that if you're one of the workers anyway. There are a couple of aliens that we see walking around this place that are familiar. I spotted a bolean, but most of them are unfamiliar and the supervisor has like, I don't know if he's like the same kind of bird person as that guy in the void episode, but he's definitely got some like tissue connecting like his nose to his lip to his lower lip kind of, he's like a verging on bird person, I would say.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah, bird person and profile for sure. Yeah. If this were the last episode of the series and this was the beginning of it, that would feel kind of nice, right? Like maybe there was some sort of elliptical edit between the last episode and this one. And the Voyager crew had decided to put down some roots. Everyone found new jobs. Everyone's really happy.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Would that be a satisfying ending? It would definitely be. If you really love these characters, it has to be, right? Yeah. I want to be surprised by the ending and not just like, okay, this is exactly what we were hoping we would get. I would love that. Like, you think you're going to get 26 episodes?
Starting point is 00:23:03 No. Surprise. The portcull episodes? No. Surprise. The portcull is slammed down. Yeah. Everybody is just happily, gainfully employed in this other environment. Yeah. Janeway is gonna be a reactor manager,
Starting point is 00:23:18 and she is just, yeah, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and excited about this, and we smash cut to our theme music. Not really knowing what is going on. But fairly confident that everyone is going to be okay and happy for the duration. Yeah, we'll probably get some flashbacks about how they arrived at this awesome conclusion to their story. I love this gear for Kate Mulgrew because on the factory floor, she continues to work.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And she's also got kind of that new person fuck up energy that isn't, that is like concerned about fucking up obviously, but not taking it so seriously that it's a problem for her and everyone else. Like you've worked with that person before that is like so self-conscious about work that every little fuck up is like,
Starting point is 00:24:11 geez, it's okay. Like chill. And it is suggested that maybe she almost blew up the factory here, but maybe that's just a little supervisor joke. Is that supervisor doing bits? Yeah, bits on new hires. I think that's fun though, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:32 I mean, I think also, like when you're new to a job, you've got fresh eyes on things and sometimes those fuckups could lead to innovative solutions to longstanding problems. So maybe roll with it, you know, and that's her attitude. It seems like many of the employees have this kind of attitude, including a guy who rolls up on her, who says, my name is Jeff. My name is Jeff.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah, I mean, not the voice you expect to come out of a silver fox, but yeah, Jeff and his Zaddy and he rolls up and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the computer, it is what it is and they start kind of like introducing each other and shaking hands. And then the new efficiency monitor on the factory floor comes around and kind of scolds them for fraternizing at work. Yeah. But what Annika Hansen doesn't understand
Starting point is 00:25:31 is that when work is your primary way to socialize like in your life, you gotta be paying attention when the new people show up. You gotta get in there early. Right. And that's what my name is, Jeffin, is trying to do here. He shoots a shot, like, immediately. And I respect it.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And he's told to stop by Onika Hansen, but nevertheless, he persisted. Crucially not told to stop by Janeway, though. Who seems like like into it. Yeah. There's coffee and fraternizing. Janeway's like, I hope this blonde knockout walks away so that this guy can continue to hit on me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Elsewhere we find ourselves at a bar where Paris is chatting up the bartender there. He wants a job in hospitality and not button pushing, which was his previous work. And she's suspicious because she's like, who gets fired from button pushing in this economy? You must have been terrible. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:26:38 Because this is a future as a bartender, all you do is push buttons. You think I'm hand mixing these drinks? No. But Pairs makes a persuasive case that he would be good at a bar because he's a sociable man and that's part of the job too. He goes from Riz to begging pretty fast though, right?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Like I thought he should maybe sit in the Riz a little longer. He waits like two seconds then and is like, oh God, give me a job, please. Yeah, yeah. Do you wanna hire someone who's desperate though? I kinda get on this bartender's level in this case. She's, I think, rightfully suspicious.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah, it does seem like he gets the job though, right? Cause like the next scene, he's like, I mean, it seems like maybe he's like a bus boy, like they're starting him at like a very entry level position. He's a go getter right away because he goes and gets like as soon as the job begins. Yeah, what's the difference between like a go getter and just like a gopher, you know, Do you know what gopherers can do to a golf course?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Slicer. It makes me think of being a go-backer, which is something that I used to be when I worked retail. You take all those unwanted, you know, people bring stuff to the register and they change their minds, that's a go-back. You gotta take that back to the floor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Do they do it if it's like milk or something that's like pretty highly perishable? People do not give a fuck what it is. People do not care. Oh man. Well, my name is Jeff and is one of the people at this bar and another friend. Here's Jeff and doing a bit, enjoys it immensely, turns around.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Tuvok. Wasn't that fun, Tuvok? And he feels. On the contrary, I feel. Yeah, he feels humor in this scene and when Tuvok explains the joke at, my name is Jeffen, when Tuvok explains the joke at, my name is Jeffin. It's really what every humorist craves. Yeah. The long division of that joke done back at them.
Starting point is 00:28:51 You don't wanna be hanging out with your buds at a bar and have someone come in and dissect a frog corpse right in front of you. That's kind of what Tuvok does here. I thought my name is Jeffin should have McBain this guy. That makes two of us. He's too busy because Catherine Janeway walks in and he would very much like to spend some time with her
Starting point is 00:29:13 even though she is like claiming to be very busy with work. It's kind of a fun floaty scene where we float between Tuvok and then to, my name is Jeff and Janeway, and then we see Paris serving up a couple of blue drinks of cultivating loyalty through comps, but he doesn't have the approval of the boss to do that. Mm. He just sort of naturally knows.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, you gotta have like a wallet from management that's specifically for that purpose, right? You gotta know that you're giving comps to a regular though, Paris. Like he doesn't know that. This is day one. Yeah, I really liked the design of this bar too. Like there's a lot of depth to it.
Starting point is 00:29:55 There's kind of like refracting glass walls in the back and you see people walking around back behind that. So it really feels like it's like a place in a city that has a lot of busy stuff going on in it. And there's a ton of extras in this bar. Like they really filled the space out nicely, I thought. Tom Paris is pouring the profits away. There's $30 a liquor in those blue drinks, and you copped them!
Starting point is 00:30:26 Now your bar is already really nicely designed, so I'm not going to rebuild it. What I am going to do is give you 472 Harbor Freight POS Systems. You will have four or five Harbor Freight POS Systems for every patron in this bar. I noticed a lot of folks coming up to the bar asking for a menu, no longer, because our friends at giantmenu.com gave us two six by six large font menus. We're putting them on either side of the bar.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Now no one's gonna be asking for those menus and wasting your bartender's time. If anybody has a question like, do you have any signature cocktails that don't feature crown royal apple flavor, these menus will answer that question. Shut it down. If there was music at this bar,
Starting point is 00:31:16 the record would skip when a pregnant BLT walks in. She is no match for the energy of this bar. So she just turns around and leaves. She's like very sullen when she walks in and very sullenly retreats. And yeah, that just goes unexplained. I feel like it is a big move to walk into a bar, notice that bar isn't for you and then to leave.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That is really hard for me to do personally. Like, I'm staying for a drink in most places. I don't feel comfortable. Yeah, I've heard many stories of you spending much longer than anticipated in Not the Right Bar because there are two bars in town with the same name and you didn't go to the right one. Yeah, it's a classic move. I like to win them over.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm happy to leave. I'm happy to say, oh, my bad. Yeah. Our course is locked in. Do it. Listen to me very carefully because I'm only going to say this once. Do it.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Elsewhere, my name is Jeffin and Janeway walk around the workplace talking and flirting still. Yeah. Avoiding Annika Hansen, right? Are they like leaving the bar or are they like after hours at work? Cause... It's kind of hard to tell what the hours are. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Maybe it's just a salary position. Hello, Peter. What's happening? They're talking work and, you know, also talking background. She describes Earth as being overpopulated, polluted, violent. Mm-hmm. Glad she's not there. Glad she's here because this is a place where you can actually get gainful employment.
Starting point is 00:33:02 She seems really happy. Like, this is a step up for her clearly. Yeah. But not the earth that we've heard her describe to anyone else ever. And she's not like, you know, my last job was really stressful. So this was just like, you know, like I took a 5%, 10% cut in pay
Starting point is 00:33:21 to have 90% less bullshit from my boss. You would hate Earth. It's crawling with Irish setters and men who wear cardigans. For the clothes you love to live in. It's a fucking dump. You don't wear cardigans, do you? My name is Jeffen.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Oh, uh-oh, curfew time, Ben. Hmm, hmm. Time to get back into their employee housing development. Yeah, is this planet not quite as nice as it seemed at first blush? No, because later on when you see the inside of this high rise, looks okay. Yeah, I mean, so what if jackbooted thugs
Starting point is 00:34:03 are scaring you off the street? Like you got a nice place to live. This episode raises a lot of questions about just what mean paradise. Yeah, yeah. Because it doesn't seem so bad. It's wave after wave of Rizzy passes that my name is Jeff and makes.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And it's like the clock is running out on his chance. And Janeway kind of reassures him, there's going to be plenty of time. She's delighted to be getting all this attention. Right. So they don't get down tonight, but he is just as happy to see her the next day at work when Belle goes off heralding the arrival of the stabbing wagon. They gotta go get their inoculations
Starting point is 00:34:55 and the inoculations people have pulled up at work. And he's like, oh yeah, like the ambient radiation's no worries as long as you get your injection when they tell you to. I love the Tim Russ take here. Like it's easy to forget that Tim Russ has any gear besides TuVok because it's mostly TuVok throughout the series.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But when you get afraid of needles, TuVok, it's really a delight. He's great at this. I'm afraid of injections. I assure you this is painless. I really feel for him. I'm not afraid of needles personally, but what he presents here is, it's great. Yeah, it's so unmooring the way he plays Tuvok, and the episode could have done a lot more of like, there is creepy shit going on
Starting point is 00:35:45 by just playing creepy music and like, you know, giving us like a Stepford Wives vibe of this planet that seems like mostly okay for the most part. Cookie up some lights and like film noir the shit. There's no hint of evil at all. The hints that you get are Tuvok like laughing out loud and getting squeamish about getting an injection.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like those are what raise your goosebumps in this. And objectively, there's nothing wrong with either of those. Those seem totally normal. You know what's not normal? Tuvok in general. That's not normal. That should give you the creeps. Yeah, when Tuvok is acting normal, something's fucking wrong. Tuvok has a flashback here during this injection scene.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. Flashback. No. No. Flashback. No. Flashback. His flashback involves being restrained by a couple of folks while he's wearing a starfleet uniform.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And after getting one of these injections, he goes back to work. This is kind of where I was like, okay, so maybe this thing is not an inoculation. Maybe it's some kind of like memory wipe thing that needs to be maintained periodically. But maybe it's both because he also looked like he had like radiation burns in that early shot. And I thought that that was a smart touch by the production. Think so too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:13 We cut over to the Delta Flyer, where Chico-Tay Kim and Neelix are coming back from a five day trading mission. And they don't have a lot of nice things to say about the Nair Shaddan. Especially Ynzen Kim, who is laid up in the back area. He is totally filled up with alien parasites because he had a meat drink.
Starting point is 00:37:39 It was made from meat. Yeah. More like a meat byproduct. I'm gonna be sick. You shouldn't have a meat drink. Meat nectar? This is something they drink. There's like some kind of like, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Like a beef or all or whatever that they drink in the UK. Bovril. Oh yeah. Do you think that meat nectar is like bovril? Yes. Yes, yes I do. And also there is no question in my mind that you would drink the meat drink. Were we doing a trading mission with a Narsha Dan?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Not only would I drink the meat drink, I would drink the meat drink at lunchtime on a show day. Yeah, you absolutely would. That'd probably be fine. Kim is not doing that thing where he's grossed out by his parasites. He's just regretful about how he feels. And he does not want Nelux's tummy tea. It smells worse than the meat nectar.
Starting point is 00:38:44 He wants to wait until he can get back to see Dr. Mark. Does Nelux make anything not with Leola Root? Like, are there any folk remedies that don't involve it? He's like that friend that everyone has who's totally into apple cider vinegar and is just like... Anytime you mention anything about feeling even the tiniest bit unwell, they're like, you know, a shot of apple cider vinegar every morning. Like. Always puts me right as rain.
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's just the best. I'll never shut up about it. Yeah. Chicoate calls back and he's like, hey, you better come up here because Voyager isn't where Voyager said they would be. And they're not answering hails either. That has got to be the worst feeling in the world
Starting point is 00:39:28 when you're in a shuttle and you get back to the rendezvous coordinates and the mothership isn't there. As soon as we got out of line of sight, I don't think there's any feeling normal until I get back in line of sight at the information like that. This happens too many times.
Starting point is 00:39:46 All too frequent. We cut over to Voyager, which is kind of listing sideways in a gas cloud. And inside Mark is engineering, trying to get the chip back online. Overused, underused, or just the right amount of used ship listing in Star Trek? I think underused. I like seeing it.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I think that a nerdy pedant on the internet will often do is criticize Star Trek for having the ships always meet nose to nose, like oriented the same way. The kills of the ship are always parallel to the bottom of the screen. You always see the ships face up with each other. Because you want to give the best first impression. Yeah, but it doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of space.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But what it does do is give impact to a shot like this. You're like, the ship is in bad shape when it's tilted. Right. It's the fallen samurai hair of establishing shots on a ship, right? It really is. And one thing I loved about this shot of Mark, he's like talking to the computer, the computer's voice is fucked up until he reroutes something. Switch to backup processors. Oh, hi, Mark. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. I'm gonna get my hands dirty. Hey, Ben, if you got a Star Trek Picard actor to present the ranks of the scenes in Star Trek, where the ships look like this, would this be List List List? Like Peyton List, introducing her List List. So it would seem.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I think if it was not going to happen again, it would be List List Last List. Actually, I think it would be List Last List List more specifically. But maybe just before they were ready to shoot this, it was misplaced. So it was lists, lost, lists, last list. Yeah, I think it probably would be that, yeah. I know I fucked up the order of those words. Don't write in. Captain's the count.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Do it. Aim where the yogurt says, do it. Do it. Captain's the count. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer.
Starting point is 00:42:30 The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer.
Starting point is 00:42:38 The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. Love seeing this space suit. Which at this point have got to smell like the inside of a musical instrument, right? There have been a lot of heads in those helmets.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Here's what they smell like. They either smell like breath or they smell like cleaning products, like right up close to your face. That can't be pleasant, right? Neither one is good. I noticed that Nelux didn't get in one. And there's got to be a reason for that, you know? Because he would look too ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I mean, I just think they're fighting an uphill battle, keeping those things from smelling too bad as it is. Right, yeah. So yeah, they came in spacesuits because life support is off, which Mark doesn't need while he fixes the rest of the ship. He's kind of working big to small on all the problems. And we get a little, here's what's going on, guys, for the first time, like a third of
Starting point is 00:43:34 the way into the episode. We ran into some problems. I can see that. Can you be a little more specific? Of course. I love how Commander Mark kind of large marges the story here. He's an effective storyteller. He hits all the beats. He doesn't linger in the boring
Starting point is 00:43:54 spots. Like, look, there was a mine and a banger, and there was a ton of radiation. And folks started pouring into Six Bay. And the emergency was sufficient to abandon ship. And Janeway snapped her fingers and turned me into Commander Mark. Computer, activate the emergency command hologram. Authorization Janeway Omega-3. Command posts transferred.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Uniballs, are you the boss? And the plan was for them to ditch the ship into my command so I can work to scrub the radiation after which I'll go scoop up the crew at the nearest habitable planet that they've landed their escape pod zone. Huh? That makes sense. You're not suspicious of me, right? Good story. And Chacote is like, did you say habitable?
Starting point is 00:44:52 I mean, I've heard habitable, but habitable? Yeah. And Mark is like, yeah, it's one of those words that I've read, but rarely say aloud. Ankylosaur. That's the only part of the story that doesn't hang together. So yeah, he was working on all of that when some scrappers showed up and said, like, oh, we got salvage rights to this ship, and he has to fight them off. And it's very easy to fight them off.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Like, Voyager is bullseying the tractor emitter and the propulsion systems of these ships without much stress at all. It's another scene of blatant hollow racism, but I gotta say, if you are this captain over there, the feeling of thinking that you got one, you got a good one, and then you don't because of this fucking hollow guy, oh, that's got to grind your gears. Yeah, you have a tough time making eye contact with any of your subordinates for a few weeks after this, probably. So they trade fire.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Like, Commander Mark tells them to fuck off, and then they shoot at the tractor beam, and then they shoot at each other's engines. And that makes Commander Mark order Voyager into a nearby nebular to hide out so that they can make some repairs. And so end of the story. Oh, one other part of that story, I think that's important, is that the ships that attack them, those weapon signatures were the same as the mine.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah. That got them originally. So, this seems to be kind of a way people are in this area of space. This is a coordinated attack. Dr. Mark doesn't wanna hang around a bunch of miners. So he bugs off and hides in a nebula. Which some would argue is creepy by itself.
Starting point is 00:46:41 What, not wanting to hang out with miners? Yeah, like performatively not wanting to. It's like, what are you worried about? We cut over to the factory and the vibe now is pretty different. Tuvac is peeping from a railing above. Oh, it's a peeping. He recognizes Janeway and he has another one of these flashbacks. Isn't it interesting how that composition changes the feeling though?
Starting point is 00:47:16 Like when you're looking down at someone from the level above, there's something about that. Right. Because she doesn't know she's being observed by a sweaty person. Yeah. And yeah, like he remembers him and Janeway being in the same room with their radiation burns and getting these injections and these like creepy scientists doing stuff to them,
Starting point is 00:47:42 putting Clip Show devices on them. Pretty cool looking Clip Show device, put around Janeway's head here. Kind of a new spin on it. I liked it. I mean, the original Clip Show device was a horror show of needles, right? And this one kind of replaces the needles with energy rays.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And as someone who didn't appreciate all the stomach churning going on with Harry Kim, I did appreciate that they spared us a bunch more stabby needle stuff at this point in the episode. Yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking about whether or not if you had to choose what you would prefer.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I think energy weapon is what you prefer. It seems more advanced, you know? I mean, I said earlier in the show, I have no problem with needles, but I'm not watching them go in. And I feel like if you've got the Clip Show device 1.0, you can't do anything but watch it go in. Yeah, yeah. So Sweaty Tuvok steps to Janeway and does not bring the same charisma that my name
Starting point is 00:48:49 is Jeffen does when he starts talking to her. He, you know, has this clip show schizom in his mind right now and it's like, we know each other. Do you think that's the main problem with his pitch is that it sounds like a bad pickup line? Yeah. I think I've seen you before. Didn't we take a class in college together? Yeah. It's like very clearly you're just trying to get a conversation going with me.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah. At least you didn't come up to me and say, settle a bet for me and my buddies or whatever, but come on, man, try something else. There's never a moment in this workplace where my name is Jeff and hasn't looked across the cubicle walls and noticed what Janeway's doing. And he pops up right on time to break this up. He sends TuVok packing and immediately pivots
Starting point is 00:49:45 to inviting Janeway on another date. Ben, are they working in a flirt factory? Because to me, my name is Jeff and is working at peak efficiency at this point. Yeah. Give that guy a raise. Let's hope there's drains on the floors in this flirt factory.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Cut over to the bar later and Paris sees BLT sitting alone at a table. And it is crazy how much more electric Janeway and my name is Jeffen are than BLT and Paris in this scene. Like I love the contrast back to back here. Yeah. Paris's Riz is not immaculate and BLT is not having it.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And it's not because she hates the attention, it's because she does that reveal. She seated at a table and so he may not have noticed the basketball under her dress. Oh. Yeah. Still wanna get together? She's single and pregnant,
Starting point is 00:50:48 and she's just sort of making some assumptions that Paris wouldn't be interested in traumatizing her baby. With his interests. Yeah. What Paris wouldn't know, given what has happened to them is that he can traumatize the hole that doesn't have a baby up in. Yeah. He has some options that actually might intrigue him. Yeah. It's kind of a heartbreaking scene. I felt like some complicated feelings in this moment
Starting point is 00:51:22 because she's like, I'm pregnant and not married. Like you assumed I wasn't pregnant and that when you found out I was pregnant, you assumed I was married. So you've made two bad assumptions, Tom Paris. Why do you wanna get to know me? And Tom is so like sweet with her, like throughout this episode, like,
Starting point is 00:51:43 oh, like we could just be friends and I'm totally cool with that in a way that is not shitty and just me trying to keep the door wedged open a bit. Yeah, because I mean, the shittiness is not coming from Paris, the shittiness is coming from BLT. Yeah, we got back to Voyager and there's kind of a little montage of this four-man crew getting the ship back in shape for doing missions.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Kim still suffering in his tum and Dr. Mark's suffering a little bit too. He steps to Chakotay on the bridge and they have a little spat about, shouldn't the emergency command hologram be in charge given, I mean, look at all this red man. Doesn't that suggest my place is here in Voyager's command center? Yeah, you're treating me like a Super Nintendo mark instead of a commander mark like I deserve. Yeah, and Chigote's like, but I'm the first officer of the ship, Mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah. And when Kim blurps in to say that he's found the crew three days away, that kind of gives Chacote the cover to be like, oh, okay, well, the tough part's over. You can take the con if you want. I'm going to go take a nap. Sounds great. Yeah. uh... take a nap sounds great yeah got to get that latin
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Starting point is 00:57:41 Get your butt. Get your butt. We got back to the planet. Janeway is having a date with my name is Jeffan. And she has prepared like spinach Wellington or something. What did this look like to you? I didn't have a guess better than spinach Wellington. Holy shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:04 This is a runner, isn't it? The Janeway is a bad cook runner. It's only worked on the outside. It is kind of like, she really wanted to cook him dinner and that never goes well for her. Once I cut off the charred part, I'm sure it'll be fine. It does in the aftermath, get my name is Jeffin to admit what he's really there to eat, that ass,
Starting point is 00:58:29 which is perfectly cooked. Yeah, she had the seat warmer on in the car on the way over. Yeah. It's like vegetable lasagna. Two corner pieces right next to each other. Two corner pieces right next to each other. So Voyager pulls into the orbit of Quora,
Starting point is 00:58:53 this planet that the crew is on. And this looks like a really happening place. It's got all kinds of space stations and ships in orbit. And they get on FaceTime with some bureaucrat who, it's like, yeah, I don't know about your crew, but if they sought refuge here, they have the full protection of our laws, you know. You're not going to come for our labor supply, buddy. The creepiest part about his defense is when he's like, yeah, we ask them, they don't know who you are. In addition to all of this, like you can't take our labor, this is important to us,
Starting point is 00:59:31 and we treat them great. They're clearly super psyched to be here. Like you're not even allowed to talk to them, dude. Chacote plays it pretty cool here and orders Voyager away. And did you notice how his hair is looking especially voluminous in this scene? It is really tall in this scene.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Great Chacote hair episode, I think. Mm, yeah. Maybe that's something he did in response to Mark wanting to be the big cheese while Janeway's away. He's like, I'm gonna really salt the wound that this guy is a hologram that was programmed not to have hair. Do you think if there was any way Chakotay would know
Starting point is 01:00:13 that my name is Jeffen is absolutely knocking out Janeway's ass right now, that he would have gone into weapons hot, like strafing the planet surface, trying to get her out of there. I actually did read that there was an early version of this script where Chacote drops a bathtub on the planet from orbit and it creates like a huge impact crater. That thing blows big.
Starting point is 01:00:41 That's what she says. We cut from Chacote's retreat to back in the workforce dorms where it feels like it's the next morning, right? And Janeway has given, my name is Jeff and a hot liquid in return for what he gave her moments before. And Janeway is so happy here. There's probably a German word for this, right? Like kind of heartbreaking in that she's so happy
Starting point is 01:01:07 in a circumstance that would make her so mad if she knew the truth of it. Right. And he's kind of in the same way. Like he doesn't know that you can have pineapple juice cold. Like she's heated this up, but he's never had it before. So he doesn't know that that's a weird way to drink it. Let's make a bet.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Do you think my name is Jeffin is in on it? Or is he innocent the way that Janeway is? Oh, is he like, you're saying he could be like a plant that's in there monitoring the workers. Yeah, like he's a, he's a Quaran or something or he works for the Quaran. Yeah, cause he said that he was from a different planet, but I don't really know what the people that are like
Starting point is 01:01:49 native to this planet look like. So. Yeah. Like in the greater too good to be true-ness of Janeway's life right now is he also the part that's going to kick her right in the lady nuts at the end. Like it's not just when the story is resolved that her mind was erased in a critical way. It's also that she was double-crossed by someone that she fell for.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's really good screenplay math, but for the sake of keeping it interesting for part two, I'm going to take you up on this bet. I'm betting that Jeffin isn't innocent. So what are our stakes? What are we betting? Could we call this bet when it's on like the big board in Vegas? The uh, my name is bettin. Okay. Yes, no minus 110.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Okay. It's just a coin flip. All right, but what is what are our stakes here? What are we betting on? I don't know. Let's think about it as we go. Okay, gotta eat a spinach Wellington. Vegetable broth power hour. Oh God. All right, I'm in. We cut over to the bar where Paris gets his consideration smashed by BLT.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Listen, I get off work in a few minutes. I thought maybe you and I could go. You don't give up, do you? You don't even know what I was gonna say. Assuming that he's making another pass. When all he was doing was trying to set her up with a support system for her baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:19 God, BLT, do you have to be so mean to people? He just wanted to introduce her to another family that's also expecting around the same time as her so that they can commiserate about how hard it is, et cetera. The expectation is that she would be a terrible single parent who would then require a larger support system in order to care for the child. I love how Paris friendzones himself here too. Yikes, you are kind of a
Starting point is 01:03:48 lot to a person who's just trying to help. Yeah. I promise you, I'm just trying to be friends here. But also respect Knuckles for that being something that he seems to be in good faith willing to do. Even though she's given him every reason that that should be what he wants at most. If you can do that, you should do that if you actually like someone. But also, I understand why it's really hard too sometimes. Sure. Anyways, up in orbit, Nelix hasn't made any progress.
Starting point is 01:04:24 He's in the ass lab reporting that there's this like labor shortage in the area. So that's why they're so like weird about people, you know, taking people off planet. And he talked to another, you know, captain in the area who's like, yeah, like if you need a job, like if you want to get off Voyager, you can come with me.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Weird times. I like the twinkle in Chacote's eye when he starts to formulate the plan to go on this mission down there. Like we could dress up. Dr. Mark could change our appearances. This is gonna be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:58 We cut to Six Bay where Chacote has been loafed up. They're gonna take the Nelux shuttle to conceal their identities. What do you make of the moment where Chacote tells Commander Mark that he's got a report to Ensign Kim before going on this mission? That was a moment that Commander Mark took great umbrage with.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I assumed I'd be in charge during your absence, Commander. Excuse me? That was a real holographic nut stomp for him. But it's also great commandering for him to be like, all right, here's the pool cue. Deuces. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:05:39 There's a moment in the scene where he drops like a subcutaneous tracking device into Nelix's palm and then like waves a light over it. And they just hide it in a cut, taking the thing out of the palm. I love that kind of practical magic. It's great. I do too. But I also was like in Star Trek, the next generation, they would have gone to a close up on the palm and A palm which is freakishly still because they froze the frame. Like, you'd know instinctually that there's something wrong with that palm.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah, yeah. It's make your skin crawl, but you can't put your finger on why. Speaking of making your skin crawl, we finally see Nelix's ship for the first time since, I don't know, like the first season or something. Yeah. Kind of a let down. It looks like a stack of Duplo left in a playground for like five years.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I mean, that's basically what's happened to it. Yeah, yeah. Do you think Nelix is kind of hurt by the idea that Paris wanted to like build a hot rod in the garage and yet saw his ship as not worth the effort? Right, we're not going to retool that. Yeah. It's a fucking K car, Nelix. Like no one gives a shit.
Starting point is 01:07:04 He sees Tom Paris pulling like rims in a spoiler out of shipping containers one day and he's like, whoa, cool. Did you order that from my car? No, we did not. No. Sorry, Nelix, there's nothing in the JEGS catalog that fits your particular making model. That fits your particular making model. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Back in, uh, um, Quara, Tuvac is getting in trouble with Onika Hansen for skipping his injections. He remembers. Tuvac calls Onika seven of nine to her face and then pulls her in for a mind meld. Yeah. Don't love seeing that in the workplace. That's an HR violation for sure. I mean, you try this in a workplace, they're gonna drag you away and that's what Tuva gets.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Yeah, but she does have that flashback to like waking up on a charging mat. So he's getting like dragged away, ranting and raving and Janeway and my name is Jeff and like go rush up to see if Hanukkah is okay. So he's getting like dragged away, ranting and raving and Janeway and my name is Jeff and like go rush up to see if Hanukkah is okay. She looked pretty spooked by this experience. I know you don't want to do it. Coffee black. Make it yourself.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Elsewhere, Chacote is just kind of presenting a distracted first day of work vibe to the intake manager. Yeah. Which I think is effective because if he's curious about finding the crew people, all the looking around and stuff kind of works in his favor. How amazing is it that a job opened up right down the hall from Janeway and Chico-te was the one selected for it. Like this is, he's got two bucks old job.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Amazing. Yeah. I mean, like I've applied for lots of jobs in my life. I've been offered very, very few of the jobs I've ever applied for. Precision job application to get near a girl you wanna talk to is a level of difficulty I cannot even imagine. Yeah, that's like changing where you sit in the classroom to work on the group assignment with your crush, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:20 I know. Good job by him. He steps to Janeway and starts with like a, hey, Catherine, it's me. I know you probably don't recognize me given all the loaf and she's like, I've never met you before. And he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They just told me to come over and introduce myself. What did you say your name was? My name is Jakoté. I'm so curious about the end of the next episode in this way.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Like, what exactly is the thing that was taken from Janeway's mind here? Because she is so kind and just curious and cool, like with all of this. She loves her job. She's got a new workplace crush, her supervisor's cool, she's meeting a bunch of interesting people, couple of weirdos. I mean, you get weirdos in every workplace, including this guy, who seems like harmless enough
Starting point is 01:10:16 or whatever, but she's like open in a way that Captain Catherine Janeway cannot be. Right. And I wonder when she's inevitably like cured and taken back to Voyager, if we're gonna feel a loss in not getting to experience this part of her anymore, this part of her that really is joyful.
Starting point is 01:10:40 There's that episode of TNG where Picard has to contemplate an existence where he wasn't the captain of the entrepreneur and he just had like a Joe job somewhere in middle management on the ship. And he never got this open with that role. No, because he would rather blow his brains out than keep being that guy. You remember when he told Q that? I would rather die as the man I was than live the life I just saw.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah, yeah. I also wondered, like the loaf that they put Jakota in is the same loaf as the convicted murderer in repentance who was like of the race that was like, oh, these guys get like discriminated against. There should be a loaf statute of limitations on this show. You shouldn't have used that loaf. It's too soon. I mean, I'm wondering if they're going to do something with that because like... Oh, as a callback. Yeah, like, oh, he's one of those guys and we know how they are kind of a thing. Like, will this loaf get him in trouble? You know what? I'm an idiot because, like, if you were to dress up as an alien of this quadrant, wouldn't you choose a familiar? Wouldn't you choose one of these guys?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Yeah, I guess so, but like, or maybe choose one that's, like, not discriminated against as badly, you know? You know what? Chacote is lucky he got hired because a lot of people wouldn't have. Right. And that's sad. It's a desperate time, you know, labor force wise, but not that desperate on Quora.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Back in the Quaran Six Bay, Tuvac has held down and given a shot for his dysphoria syndrome. Yeah, meanwhile, Nelix has just gone drinking. This is the best part of any Dustbuster Club mission, right? Right, you guys get jobs. I'm gonna go sample some of the local refreshments. What I love about this division of labor
Starting point is 01:12:39 is the Chacote clearly has the harder work. Like he's got to somehow fit in and get in with Janeway. And the elixin this scene is the opposite of subtle. He's like kind of talking to Paris and to himself about like, you know, a bar is cool and everything, but what would it be like to live and work on a spaceship? You ever think about that? You ever think about that? You ever think about being its pilot?
Starting point is 01:13:08 And what do you think about old-timey movies, you know, in black and white? Hey, hey, come in closer. Like let's talk across the bar for a second. Would you ever fuck a Klingon? If so, like which one would you go for first of the two? Paris is like, these are all very specific references. Stranger, can I get you another drink?
Starting point is 01:13:36 At the end of this, Chacote kind of rolls up and they talk conspiratorially about like, you know, we found some of the crew. Let me guess, they really love their jobs. What do you make of that? Seems like they like this better than what we had going on Voyager. To their credit and either of them get defensive about that.
Starting point is 01:13:56 No, I mean, like on the contrary, you can kind of see that they're like, maybe we should get those injections everybody's getting. Yeah. See how it is. Janeway and my name is Jeff and Roll Up. And this is an incredible scene in my mind because... Oh man. Janeway's like, hey, why don't you join us for dinner
Starting point is 01:14:15 to Chacote and Neelix and Jeffin. I wish I could ever, ever, ever do this. I need to file this line away in my back pocket because when he says, actually I was hoping we'd eat alone tonight, in front of them, it somehow does not feel like spitting in their faces. It somehow feels like, huh, okay.
Starting point is 01:14:37 No, I wouldn't want to interrupt date night or whatever. It's Janeway that tells my name is Jeff and that she has a real problem with that. But that was about the classiest way you could ever put it, I thought. It was really classy. It somehow is the opposite of presenting him as being self-conscious around like Chacote as a stick man that he's like worried is moving in on his lady. Like he's just like, that's not the way I was hoping my evening would go.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And I'm just gonna speak up for that right now. And everybody's like, oh, right on dude. Like no harm, no foul. Ben, I feel like the odds have changed on the big board here because of this scene. This was the part where my antenna went up on my name is Jeffin, like, huh, doesn't want them to commingle.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Interesting. Then he's like, oh, we should move in together, you and me. Like, wow. I think my name is Jeffin, knocked it out so good in the rope department. She's ready to take this risk. She wants to be a jump roper for as long as she can be.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Maybe we've come up with something heating up the pineapple juice. Yeah, the hot pineapple drink. It could be a thing. You're right, it's good. I told you. You know, there aren't enough hot, teaky drinks, I think. I've always thought that.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Hot buttered rum, that's not even really a teaky drink. It's just got rum in it. That doesn't make it a teaky drink. You know, I recently caught shit from my wife about the very special batch of hot buttered rum that she made that is still in our fridge that we have not finished. And she's like,
Starting point is 01:16:31 I made this for us to enjoy during the holidays and you aren't enjoying it enough. It's just sitting in the fridge, unenjoyed. I don't understand how you could not be enjoying that. I'd be enjoying the hell out of that. Now here we are in February, and I kind of feel like it's too late. I kind of feel like it's not hot buttered rum season.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Invite me over. We're going to make it hot buttered rum season, Montfraer. All right. How about you come over and I'll just hand it over to you at the doorway. Okay. Then I'll leave. Get the fuck out! BLT takes off and not having a double date lined up for themselves. Nelix and Chacote choose to stalk her through the smoky, creepy back alleys of Quora.
Starting point is 01:17:20 This is a scene that doesn't make them look particularly great, but she clocks them and turns around and like Chacote's like, what if I told you we actually know each other? What if I told you we're closer than friends, closer than family? There's something logically that just doesn't fit together in this scene. Like Chacote has now a couple of times done the,
Starting point is 01:17:44 hey, don't I look familiar kind of thing? And it's never worked and he does it here. And it just, it's weird how like it feels grosser every time. Yeah, yeah. He knows it's not gonna work. It never works Chacote. I don't know her. It sort of like devolves into grabbing her
Starting point is 01:18:03 along with Nelix and then, I I mean BLT is fully freaking out now Obviously because she's got two strangers grabbing at her through the steam and security folks are around and and They hear the tussle and what happens in this scene is like Neelix and BLT get beamed up But not Chacote Chacote's got a hoof it it. And like as he runs, he's talking to Kim and he's like, hey, you got to get me out of here. I'm just going to run around the scaffolding until you get me. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:18:34 They can't get him. They can't annually confine onto his coordinates or whatever. Well, they're also getting shot at. Like the Voyager has to bug out because they're getting chased by local security. Chacote's getting chased by local security. Clip show devices are being clamped onto Tuvok. Balaana's being like held down to a bio bed writhing
Starting point is 01:18:56 while they're getting ready to inject her with something. Yeah. Chacote gets like chased into a corner and there's a force field there. So he can't even like jump over the side of the balcony or whatever the fuck he is. He's like oh I know how to use one of these I remember this from the break episode and he kind of unzips into a hole he expects to be in front of him. One of our more interesting missions. And then to be continued.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Interesting missions. And then 2B continued to have some onscreen. That's the cliff. Did you like this episode, Ben? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullying. I don't like friends. And I don't like you. I really liked this episode.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I mean, like, very excited to see what the exciting conclusion is. What an interesting place and setup. Star Trek is so funny because like every alien is like kind of a stereotype of a type of thing. Like, you know, we've got the warrior aliens, we've got the greed aliens, we've got the furtive secretive aliens. Now we have the labor shortage aliens. Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious to see what happens,
Starting point is 01:20:12 but I really liked all the puzzle pieces that they gave us in this and where the story has gone so far. So yeah, I don't know what else to say. What, like, leave me alone. I thought it was terrible. And in a very specific way, you and I have talked a bunch on the hit new Star Trek podcast, Greatest Trek,
Starting point is 01:20:33 during our pilot season project, about how great it is when you encounter a show with a theme that introduces the characters and what they're there to do. And in my mind, this may be the worst Star Trek Voyager episode to start with. Wow.
Starting point is 01:20:52 For that reason, how confusing is this? You got a bunch of folks really happy, getting along great, pairing off and dating sometimes, doing work that they enjoy that fulfills them. Who are these fucking guys trying to interfere, trying to grab them off the street? Okay. Look, look, they're sick
Starting point is 01:21:15 and the Quarrens made them feel better. That's all you know. There isn't enough there to make it clear who is the bad guys and who are the good guys unless you've watched Voyager before. So you're saying that this, if it was the pilot episode and not an episode that is in the last half of the last season.
Starting point is 01:21:38 No, I'm talking about for the new viewer. This is the way we've contextualized that on greatest track. Like you want something in every episode to be sufficient, to not totally alienate a new viewer. This is exactly the opposite of the way we record Greatest Trek and Greatest Generation. It is not an invitation in any way to a new person. It's inside joke on top of inside joke
Starting point is 01:22:05 on top of mispronounced word on top of bullshit. That's the formula. It kind of makes me a hypocrite. So are you saying that in many ways this is the most like the greatest generation Star Trek Voyager has ever been? This is the narcissism of minor differences, right? This is why I hate this episode so much.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Because it reminds me so much of us. Wow, Adam. Shocking take at the end of this episode. Do you want to see if there's anything shocking in the Priority One inbox? Oh yeah, I'm on my way there. Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel. Need a supplement link? Supplement. Supplement. Supplement.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship. Our first P1 is of a promotional nature. Goes like this. Diverse Joy is a podcast that puts the joy back into talking about diversity. Hosted by two experts, Dr. William Cox, who proposed to me via P1 back on TGG 359, and Dr. Amber Nelson. They infuse science, practicality, and joy into conversations about diversity, equity,
Starting point is 01:23:22 and inclusion. They also teach evidence-based skills backed by years of science that can empower you to become impactful, positive agents of change. Check out Diverse Joy in any podcatcher or at diversejoy.com. Wow! Yeah, you know, I think most people are pretty tired of the fucking lecture and I think when you can talk about these issues in a way that's Joyful and inviting that's a great thing. Yeah, that is commendable work
Starting point is 01:23:57 I was just looking back at what episode 359 was. Oh, yeah Voyager season one episode seven, an episode we called hanging beam. And the logline here is when a first contact mission ends in murder, the wet spot at the scene of the crime points to Tom Parris. But when Parris' punishment turns life threatening, two bucks investigation will need to be hands-on. Are we enjoying the show capsules here? I feel like we put a lot of work into those. I enjoy them immensely every time.
Starting point is 01:24:33 I'm wondering if this marriage proposal backfired because it sounds like Dr. Cox proposed to Proposed to Eric Roman Bining and Eric became their podcast producer, not necessarily their spouse. So that's a little bit discouraging, but I think this sounds like a great show. I'm definitely going to give it a listen. And here's the call to action. Help fellow FODs make the world a better place by subscribing and leaving a five-star review for Diverse Joy in your podcatcher. Yeah, every podcast, especially one starting out, really benefits from those reviews. So give them a listen, give them a review.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Do it. Ben, our second priority in messages from Patrick, Kate, Ted, and Sarah, it's to Kristen. when message is from Patrick, Kate, Ted, and Sarah. It's to Kristen. Their message goes like this, Happy birthday to my awesome sister Kristen! Sister Kristen, it's your birthday! Hope this airs close enough to March 9th to make it count. Thanks for getting me a greatest gen tour poster.
Starting point is 01:25:42 It looks great in my office! Jealous that you and Josh live gen tour poster. It looks great in my office. Jealous that you and Josh live near tour stops. It makes me happy that we share the embarrassment of Trek, this pod, and our Irish heritage. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Happy birthday. Well, happy birthday, Kristen.. Thanks for getting a tour poster. It must be a very permissive workplace, or that tour poster hangs on the underside of a toilet lid.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Yeah, maybe a home office? Who knows. Gotta be. Our final P1 today is from Ludo Ergo Faro, and it is to Adam Pranica. Hmm. And it goes like this. Adam, I'm sorry to say I'm here to out you as basic. Fuck off. In season five episode two of DS9,
Starting point is 01:26:37 you said how's it gonna be when it goes down? This is an egregious third eye blind reference, signifying your basicness. O il negati camele, as the navisse, you are among friends. Oh! Keep being yourselves, it's what makes this podcast. Oh, boy, you had me in the first half. Ludo ergo faro. I thought this was just gonna be a slamfest, but no. This is praising my basicness. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Your basicosity? Yeah. Yeah. I'm like a third eye blind reference. I doubt I caught that though. I don't think of how's it gonna be as like a primary third eye blind pole. That's on you. I mean, that was a big song, but that's a deeper cut than I can usually go. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, your music references often miss me as often as mine miss you.
Starting point is 01:27:40 That's what makes us such poor comedy partners. That's what makes us the yin yang twins of Star Trek podcasting Wow, well if you'd like to leave a message up on the jumbo tron had to maximum fun org slash jumbo tron and Send it today helps us keep the lights on around here. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? It's time to find a person that reminds us of engineer Shimoda. From the Naked Now episode of Star Trek The Next Generation,
Starting point is 01:28:15 did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda! I'm going to give it to Nelix for hitting the bar first thing on the away mission. I was wondering what happened to the rest of the away team when we saw Chacote showing up first day on the job and was momentarily distracted by the remarkable feet that he pulled of getting a job at the same exact station that Tuvok used to work at. But then when they cut to the bar, I just had to laugh.
Starting point is 01:28:50 That's hilarious. Good move, Felix. Amazing move. I am inclined to defer because I feel like my Shimoda is going to get canceled in part two of workforce. I want to say it's my name two of workforce. I want to say it's my name is Jeffin. Okay. I thought a lot about like my dating history and I was like, I think every significant relationship
Starting point is 01:29:14 I've ever had came from a workplace. Because when you work as many like retail jobs as I have, like that's what you do, that's what happens. That's how you meet new people. And here's my name is Jeffin, just open and interested and not creepy at all. He's just nice. He maybe moves a little fast,
Starting point is 01:29:41 but I almost wanted to refer to workforce part two because I did bet that he's a bad guy, but my Shimoda is assigned to the good guy that we know at this point. And I'm readying my quad box apology for the next episode, just in case. Yeah, it's not like something you have to apologize for, but your strong association with him is gonna be something
Starting point is 01:30:10 that people want to hear from you about like what your thoughts on the situation are. Why does everyone remain so interested? Who fucking cares? I care about our next episode and how we are going to be reviewing it. It's Season 7 Episode 17, Workforce Part 2. That's what they named it? They did. Yeah, stuck with that naming convention. To save Janeway and the rest of Voyager's crew, Chacote must convince her that seemingly happy life as a worker on Quora is not real. It's a
Starting point is 01:30:50 fake. I've now fired up the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker. This was the cipher question in the Matrix, right? Would you rather be happy and not know? Yeah, would you rather enjoy the digital steak or eat real mush? Yeah, this is the question. We'll see. Would Janeway rather eat digital pineapple ropes? Or would she rather go back to her old life?
Starting point is 01:31:22 That's the question. What happens to the digital pineapple ropes when you spit them out in the potted plant near the bed? Oh no, we're gonna find out and for some reason it's called work force part two. Get it, cause they're being forced to work. Anyways, our runabout is on square two. Oh no, Adam, you just blew your brain, so.
Starting point is 01:31:46 First I ever thought of that, Ben. Our runabout is on square 22 of the game of Budholes. It looks like we could hit a banger, and we could hit a make it now. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Roll play. Roll. There all this boom. That's six landing us on that naked.
Starting point is 01:32:18 They could now square. The next episode will be recorded. Neelik style from the best. I quit, man. I quit this fucking show. How many times in the last month have we done that? It's so fucking stupid. The thing that is really fucked up about it is, I think that my toddler is going gonna be home with the nanny
Starting point is 01:32:49 on the day that we have scheduled to record this episode. So I'm gonna have to try to figure out a way to ask the nanny to like take him to the playground for a while in a way that doesn't reveal what I'm going to be doing in the house while they're gone. I'm doing that episode from the foot bath. That's what I'm gonna do. That's what you get for not being specific on the game of buttholes there.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Wow. I mean, I wasn't the one that wrote any of the capsules on this, so... God fucking dammit. I cannot wait until we redo this game for Star Trek Enterprise. Yeah, it's gonna be a good day. It's gonna be a good day for all of us. But in the meantime, we gotta thank our great producer, Wendy Pretty, who edits these episodes and produces the entire Uxbridge Shimoda family of products. Thank you so much, Wendy.
Starting point is 01:33:46 She'll be retroactively deleting my Shimoda from this episode. Should anything fucked up happen with my name is Jeffan in the next episode. How about new? Appreciate that. Yeah. Good looking out, Wendy.
Starting point is 01:33:59 I'd seem really good that that's how that's gonna go down. We got to thank Adam Raguseia, who made the original Janeway song on the inspiration of Dark Materia, who made the card song. Don't search for Adam Ragoosia's stuff on YouTube. He doesn't want any more fans. Just freaking him out, man. Yeah, if you're going to do that search, we'll take him.
Starting point is 01:34:20 We'll take his overflow. Yeah. I got to thank the card daddy Bill Tilley for helping us out with social medias, and Nick Ditmore for our original show art. And with that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and an episode of the Greatest Generation Voyager, where
Starting point is 01:34:41 it's like, fuck you, man. Like, I left that job for a reason. I like the new job better You have to like double my salary to make me even consider coming back assholes Look how bouncy my hair is really makes you think about like What would make you leave this job? Next week's record. Yeah, I still can't stop thinking about that roll My name is Jiffen. My name is Jiffen.
Starting point is 01:35:32 That's the keeper. Couple of alts, yeah.

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